Fighting Games General /fgg/

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Friendly reminder that the concurrent player count for SFV on Steam is inflated.

Friendly reminder that SFV and T7 are identically bad. Both have horrendous input lag, terrible online experience, a lack of character variety, and sparse on features. They even share artificial load times. If you promote either of these games you're a fighting game community killing scrub equal to a Smash kiddie.

Friendly reminder that if the your game doesn't have keepaway, it's not a game worth playing.

Lord Knight is black

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why isnt Ingrid in SFV yet?

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Playbirth

>>181994941
because sfv is a hot pile of garbage

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Yo /fgg/! /tekgen/ said they'd be down for a cross thread tournament. Who's up for joining?

Reminder that SFV is literally the only relevant fighting game.

>>181995008
What's the point of such a tournament?

/fgg/ and /tekgen/ are basically the same people, some of us created /tekgen/ and went there but still post in /fgg/, they're like our retarded little cousin kind of like /pol/ and r/The_Donald

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>Tekken is dying as usual
>Instead of trying to save it, Tekken fans continue to attack SFV instead

In this situation, you have two choices:

1. Abandon Tekken, cut the losses, and go back to an actually alive game like SFV

2. Do your best to save Tekken through content creation, helping newcomers or just in general being active in the communiy

Tekken fans are doing neither right now, what the fuck? You're just dragging the FGC down as a whole

>>181994901
Hes the whitest guy ive ever met.

>>181995008
>Asking in American hours
I wouldn't keep my hopes up.

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playbirth!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDL1qi4C9As

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXK6MU0Hh2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY8gPI4kaww

console patch notes:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B05szmR2yYh4TnV2aWRqU2s3Mms/view

>>181995325
I'd only do it if someone gameshared it with me.

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>>181994540
should i retake SFV?

>>181995298
How so? Being "white" is not a quality you can just "assign" to people like that.

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>>181995538
nah, its a bad game and I ain't ever going back.

>>181995269
the cousin who's better at tekken than you lmao

>>181995325
Wagner looks cute. Is it true that her movelist is like Sin's and she can special cancel? If not, what kind of character is she?

>>181995708
>>181995538

Post your ranks

>>181995570
Dont be such a darky, anon.

Interesting thing most other people probably noticed:

Depending on where Mika's hair is when the game ends determines where it will be during the win animation/freeze frame.

In her new costume, if the game ends with her tails in the front, it'll cover her face and look stupid as hell. If they are behind her she'll look normal.

Probably an oversight but I think its pretty neat.

>>181995269
>What's the point of playing fighting games
Not bad, but I've seen better dodges.

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I love Urien!!!

>>181995325
Stiop linking Hydegaming. All he does is rehost videos in a shittier quality.

>>181996362
no tth made him boring in 5 desu

>>181996362
So what's so special about Urien? I still haven't grasped the appeal of his gameplay.

>>181996540
It's a fucking meme.

Same with people hyping Alex and then nobody giving a shit about him.

Fucking Kolin's trailer got more views than Alex and Urein's trailers combined

>stuck at Ultra Gold for around 2 months
>finally hit Platinum on a great day where I went on a great streak
>now I'm beating plats and diamonds regularly and am a good day away from super plat
>still get scared everytime I see a gold

What did jive mean by this?

>>181996604
Well, just tell me about his Street Fighter 3 gameplay then.

>>181995295
well you can't do much when harada is literally doing an ono. Shitfuck launch with no content and broken/missing features. MvCi will actually have more content unironnically. I don't give a fuck about character customization I just want to play the game. No tekken bowling, force, volleyball at launch instead $10 for each mode, fuck that

>>181996438
umm lol he has videos no other youtube does, stay salty PC UNIEL player

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>>181996746
SHUT UP

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when did you realize that sfv was much better than sf4 in every conceivable way and that people who hate it are reddit bandwagoners?

>>181995856
super gold

>>181997375
When i remembered street fighter was always garbage.

>>181997241
>I'm too retarded to use anything other than youtube
>pls rape my face

Yesterday I was in a friend's house playing Tekken and he showed me his personalised fightstick with Sanwa parts; shit's awesome, felt really awkward at first but then it was fun as fuck to use it. Can you guys recommend me a website to buy a good enough quality one between 100-150 dollars ? My friend told me is cheaper to buy the parts (buttons, stick, screws, the internal parts), if so where do I get them; is there someone that build them on request ? I'm not good at building things. I don't need a professional one, just a good enough one

>>181996526
headbutt loops are like the same thing

>>181997661
i bought my parts from focus attack, but its really just a meme, a pad works just fine and probably even better

>>181997836
Yeah I just found very fun to have one, and I feel that is better for inputs. Gonna check out focus attack, would you mind tell me what do I need besides the buttons stick boxes, you know, the internal thing

>>181997594
enjoy ST, my pc fighting game player

>>181995008
depending on the hours, i'd mash some. uui will win the tourney anyway, but he's a walking meme at this point so that's ok.

>get reddit for le next battle!! XD *tips fedora*

is there anything more cringeworthy than the tekken announcer?

>>181998075
ive never built a stick from scratch, i just replaced my qanba's old buttons and joystick with sanwa ones, which is really simple. you just need a screwdriver.

>>181998453
HEAVEN OR HELL

>>181998453
yeah, cringy gear

>>181996604
this is a shit argument as Alex was playable before his official trailer dropped and there were loads of better fanmade ones. Urien was also playable in the storymode, fully revealed and intact for about 2 months before his trailer dropped.

TL:DR, trailers ain't shit

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>>181998652

Just admit Kolin is more hype (and hotter) than both Urien and Alex combined, you fucking pretentious nostalgia loser.

I bet you're no older than 24 but desperately want to seem old school

>>181998453
Memegirls

>>181998453
UNIEL's

Hey guys, I just got my PS4 and I'm going to start learning fighting! Should I buy Tekken or KoF? I heard Tekken was busted as of right now but it'll be fixed yeah? Thanks

Anyone wanna try some PC UNIEL?
I'm US Midwest

>>181999104
get SFV and tekken

>>181998980
>UNIEL
>not blazbabb

DA WHEEL OF FRATE ES TURNING
REBEL WANNN
ACTION

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its
>SFV
but.....

I'm on an ultra light beam right now my dudes.
Just beat this rank 275 Vega twice in a row and I my dick is flexing real hard right now.

>>181999454
>Playing a braindead character like Gief
>Being proud of beating a Vega who has to work 3x as hard for a win

Gief players are sad cunts

>>181999610
Vega is a really tough matchup for Gief tho.

>>181999454
how many hours lmao

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>>181999825
720

>>181998281
Uui already lost in the tekgen tournament. He's not the only good player there.

>>182000909

what

>>181998742
Kolin is most boring character they've ever released and I'm older than 24.

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What is your opinion of this feline?

Friday Night Lobby up
NA EAST
PW: 4455
Comment: Anyone will do

>evo numbers were way up last year
>everything has dropped significantly this year, but still above the 2015 standard
people used 16ers as a meme, but 16ers were real
97% of them are dead now though

>Want Color 7
>Need to beat Survival Hard

;_;

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>>181994540

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>tfw you get a ragequitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy2tzl5H1VU

>>182001304
How can anyone not like her?

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gg's f a m. st.HP is that good shit huh?

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>>181996540
>>181996604
>>181998742
I just like his design

>>182003867
Fucks me up like nothing else.

SFV is a game for gays
>half the characters are just "really big buff guy"
lmao

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>>181994540
brown footsies fighting game when??

>>182004094
What does her meat cape smell like?

>>182004191
chad's cum

>>182004376
>sin
>chad

>>182004512
Sin is a fag

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>>182004094
wud brown!!

>>182004081
that's SG
>fighting as a girl
lmaoooooooo

I don't understand why sonicfox doesn't play the furry characters tho

>>182004094
Bullet is the superior arcsys brown

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>>182004094
wud play

which is a better engine mugen or fighter maker?

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>>181994540
A moment of silence for Sammy vs Capcom.

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>>182004094
brown is the color of poo!!

>>182005714
poo comes in many colors tho

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>working on a hot comeback in Skullgirls
>get solid combo into blockbuster into lvl3 DHC
>he's out of here.jpg
>the hype takes over and I let go of the stick
>he lives with a practically invisible health bar
>HPs and kills me for the set

Well fuck. I would like to think I'll only make that mistake once. Luckily it was only a Quick Match anyways.

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>>182005495
one piece is number one

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Picked up UNIEL on Steam during the sale, most characters feel amazing to play as, is it too late to get good at it? When is the next game coming out?

i used to like the hori fc

but now

i just don't

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>too old and too slow to learn Ibuki

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR, I'M A GOOD PERSON AND I PAY MY TAXES

WHY CANT I LEARN MY NEW WAIFU

>>182006718
She's got an ugly face

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The big Comic Con surprise is actually going to happen!

https://comiccon2017.sched.com/event/BP67/street-fighter-30th-anniversary?iframe=no&w=680&sidebar=no&bg=no

inb4 its delayed

What's a good starting point for a newcomer to Darkstalkers?

I can't even beat the some of the fucking tutorials. Even the ones I manage to beat can be hard to try combos.

>>182007474
Vsav, an actual good game people still play, turns 20, nobody cares

SF1, a shitty game nobody plays, turns 30, major celebration

can you dodging fucbois stop talking shit you cant back up and stay in your own shitty general? thanks

>>182007524
Use the cat or the dog and mash buttons

>>182007706
>vsav
>good game
it's the game that killed the series, making sure nobody celebrates it

>>182006382
july 20th for console
arcades just got updated like last week, so info is coming through and there are patch notes already.

>>182008039
Vsav2/Vhun2 are what killed it

>>182008371
vsav2/vhun2 came out literally months after vsav to try to save face after vsav shit the bed

it didn't work, because the same people who made those made vsav

>tfw slowly getting more comfortable not only recognizing low parryable strings and player tendencies to go low, but actually going for them and converting

feels good. gone are the days of "lemme block this and just come up with the ws4 because i don't know how hard i can punish with this character."

anyone down for some psn t7/rev2/inj2 before bed? us east

>>182008753
host a rev2 lobby senpai

>>182008680
>Make VSav2/VHunt2 to burn through CPS-II stocks
>It flops
>Make Street Fighter III to sell the new CPS-III
>It flops
>Have to switch to other companies' hardware for most their games after that
What did Capcom mean?

>>182009618
ijrs

I have work at 8am, so first to 10 if i don't know you, and first to psn special if i do know you.

>>182009648
MvC1 and Alpha 3 were CPS2 so these story doesn't add up.

>>182010445
games updating hang on

oh cool people actually play games here

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>one more week

I just want to streamboar even though it'll be a weak evo.

>>182011671
I just want to see JDCR lose

>>182011671
I wonder if goober can have hype moment that doesn't involve one guy fucking up

unist in two weeks
who hype

How do they make Ryu and Chun-Li look so fucking horrible in MvCi when they look amazing in SFV? Why didn't they just port the models.

>>182007715
it was hws, and i won the ft5 anyway

What does "tryhard" mean?

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>>182012750
I'm really starting to believe the conspiracy that they were paid by marvel to make the capcom side look awful.

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>https://twitter.com/SonicFox5000/status/883508097477562368

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THIS

>>182012860
It means the guy that got raped doesn't have any valid criticism so he resorts to making fun of someone's effort even if the bodification was effortless. Top 10 saltmaker comment

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>>182012860
Trying too hard.

>>182012885
It's just embarrassing.
Imagine if MvC at least looked onpar with SFV. The hype would immediately skyrocket.

This is one of those times where the presentation is SO bad that it actually detracts from the rest of the game. How am I supposed to go from SFV's damn good character models and faces (for the most part) to MvC's shit? Depressing.

how come when two gambits face each other, the wind is blowing their coats in opposite directions

>>182012750
Different engine.

>>182013162
Doesn't mean they can't use the same models.

>>182012860
Anyone better than me

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>>182003264
>tfw you're trying out Kolin and the guy you're fighting ragequits after you counter his second consecutive jump in with her antiair parry

>>182012860
it means im a fucking scrub and i cant rationalize how hard i just got fucking raped but im upset and i want you to know it, i really wish i could suck a massive black dick can you find me one

>>182013018
Without the picture I literally have no idea who that is
Tekken Customization was a mistake

>>182013047
Sf5 has pretty wonky face model though. Capcom is just conditioning you to accept MCVi model as well

>>182013323
What do you mean? I think most of the faces look just fine.

>>182012575
*sniff*

>>182012575
best game

how my nigga akuma not gon be in marvel?
I wanted to play as a akuma/thanos

>>182013320
You should be able to tell just from the stance and fighting style.

>>182013248
Funny thing is that the best way to counter it is to use the base level strategy of altering jumping timings.

>>182013686
ya marvel's roster just not hype enough doood i love a good roster

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>>182013686
Play games with actual characters instead of just functions and shills.

>>182013686
You spelled Asura wrong

>>182013741
Didn't know it was Asuka until I saw her rigid neutral stance

>>182010882
10-4 ya laggy bastard

>can't get out the slayer vortex since raven has no dp

lol. you felt hella rusty, too much sfxt?

>>182012575
Now post best BB.

>>182012769
Which game?

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>>182014485
nice job seeding your tranny javs at full speed leaving me on tilt dropping all of my combos

yeah i've been playing it lately with RPG and my GG feels off. also my controller is kind of wonky and it'll randomly mash out a burst in GG. my sol vortex > the slayer vortex. frame perfect safe jumps in 20f lag > meme teleport dashes all day

>>182012885
They didntpay capcom to make their characters look bad, the marvel character just have priority over them.

Bong water lmao

>>182014598
Anon talked shit and I challenged him. I won the ft5, but it turned out it was HWS shitposting, and he dodged while a different anon stepped up to the challenge. Most likely >>182007715 is highwaystar too

>>182014987
>>182014598
My b, it was tekken 7

>Mr Biscuits, your prime time goober is goingbto be commentating Street Fighter 5 at EVO 2017
Now this is how you kill a game

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Gimme a fun game to trainingboar combos in.

>>182013162
SFV and MvCI are both Unreal Engine 4

no jubilee no buybalee

>>182014705
don't blame your midget bestiality uploads on my connection. and playing faust in 8f+ > any fucking character or excuse you can come up with. a lag spike ate my blitz on a fafnir in corner, jesus christ that felt bad. yea the bursts were wild, but i knew that wasn't a jojo thing, I was talking about that raven. Your set ups and neutral seemed shaky, is that because of the changes or you're out of practice, or are you going for more slashes to get masometer?

>>182015118
>20 second long combo
>50%
lol, what a shit game

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>>182015118
UNIEL is pretty fun for that I guess

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anyone else care less about evo this year than ever?
like normally i'd watch the finals in most games but this year its like there's no point

i only hope there's some new announcements
>dragonball fighters z event with new characters revealed
>xrd gets robo-ky and zappa patched in that sunday. ariels and anji announced for later
>bbcf finally gets jubei
>sfv finally gets arcade mode

>>182015118
>when skullgirls has a better alex than SFV

what the fuck nigga

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>>182014598

>>182015118
Marvel 3

>>182015301
yeah i can't say i give much of a crap
gg is probably another foregone conclusion with machaboo and most of the rest of the games are whatever
bb might be good though

>>182015301
Looking forward to BB top 8. Does anyone know if many Koreans are coming over for Tekken 7?

>>182015301
Yeah, I might watch T7 finals later but I doubt I'll watch anything live.

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>>182015289
That's fun but I already did a lot of that.

>>182015315
Better Alex than 3S too.

>>182015439
I should actually, thanks dawg.

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>>182014598
meeeee

>>182015468
Machabo has been playing SFV and not been practicing GG as much. You can drop a lot when not practicing for a while. Machabo is definitely not undefeatable and also when you have have ft2 and ft3, many things can happen.

>tfw didn't play SFV today
>decided to play several hours of Overwatch instead
>feel kinda guilty since I want to make a genuine effort to git gud

>>182015190
oh my raven sucks lmao. i'm trying out new gatling strings and i'll usually spaghetti somewhere mid sting and just kind of do nothing. lots of hit confirms into 2s that doesn't combo off for example. I try and end stuff in slash for the meter gain so i can mix them up with a bigger oki bull but i just had sloppy play.

can't wait for the 20th so I can go back to an honest anime game and won't have to deal with next level torrent lagging cootery.

>>182015841
>machabo had to take sfv more seriously to become a pro gamer because even being the undisputed gooby king, no one would sponsor him
i feel bad for goobers desu
their game doesnt deserve to be THAT dead

friendly reminder that machaboo, king goober, got bodied by a SLAYER player at evo sai, anything can happen at EVO

>>182016276
The thing that sucks is it's actually a good game, but because it's anime and not really that heard of and everyone that plays it is a smelly weeb neet it dies so fast after the first year of hype. Then BB comes out and it dies totally until the next installment.

>>182016481
sounds like xturd is a 50/50 rock paper scissors random game

>>182016521
>yrc the game
>good

>>182016934
get throw looped lmaooooooooo

>>182016962
>fadc the game
>good
O wait, better than jive

>>182016109
>cootery

ouch, that hurt. and I can't wait to go back to an honest anime game where I shit on carmines with now top tier spiderman and my curt connors out foosies gordeau mashers :^))))

>2d fighters
>good
So.low IQ they can't handle another dimension

>>182016276
Machabo really really need money. SFV is where the money is at

>>182017283
What about the 2D fighters that let you dodge into the background?

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>>182007474

For the sake of everything holy. I hope Ono has more than just a few costumes for SF's 30th anniversary

I"m not even asking for free characters. Just please be something more than just costumes and old game bundles.

>>182016962
It has roman cancels, but those are still better than anything Jive has, and the amount of defensive options in GG is amazing, which helps with yrc shit. Also SF4 literally had FADC which was just a shittier and more cheap version of roman cancelling, yet everyone loves sf4 now that they've seen how bad 5 really is.

All fucking fighting is shit right now

>Jive is terrible and every pro player only plays it for money and are miserable
>injustass is just 50/50 mixup the game but throw in 100-0 combos and infinites
>mkx is the same shit as injustass
>killer instinct is dead and just a terrible game, fun to play but terrible
>tekken7 is k, but is having quite a terrible launch and the characters are all kinda samey (but tbf that's always been tekken)
>kof is dead and shit, always has been shit ever since the death of 2k2 the last good kof game

Goobers is the only game that feels fun and fair anymore, and has a clear skill gap and pretty decent mechanics.

I'd never think I'd see the day where I wished we could go back to ssf4/usf4, but it's happened.

>>182017575
>Goobers is the only game that feels fair anymore
LMAO
guess you didn't see marn's twitter where he says every character besides the one he plays is cheap unfair trash huh

>>182017194
I'm actually an Akatsuki main now
nothing personal kid

>>182017698
>guess you didn't see marn's twitter where he says every character besides the one he plays is cheap unfair trash huh
What does that even mean

>>182015326
Worst BB.

>>182017508
he won't have anything but costumes. sfv underperformed, mvci is going to underperform. capcom is not going to make or heavily support any more fighting games after mvci. if sfv were selling well and had a positive reception they might invest in big expansions, but it's obvious all they're doing is giving everyone the bare minimum until they can safely cut the game off. sf is dead after 2020.

>>182017575
Shut up and never talk again.

>>182017778
it means gg is full of characters who have tons of cheap shit instead of honest no nonsense characters like sol and sin. it's also why the game is dead irrelevant trash and machabo is almost homeless

>>182017698
who does marn play in that game

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>Tekken just went down to 3.5k players for the first time on Steam

When will the bleeding stop? Is PSN player base still healthy?

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>>182015326
>>182015625
That's not best BB you loli loving autists.

>>182018046
Jam

>>182017172
>no argument

>>182017575
literally W H O ever said anything about jive that game is garbage too
doesnt change anything about goober gear besides perception which has blinded people and had the same effect sfv has on people which is just accepting shitty mechanics like yrc and danger time except instead of accepting sfv because esports money people accept xrd shit because its not sfv

even then some of gg vets in both jp and na dont give a shit about actually playing xrd

>>182017879
>FGC shits on "single player" content for years
>SFV comes out with minimal single player content
>FGC complains

Like pottery

>>182018125
oh, she's total bullshit too though

>>182018310
He is also coming from accent core

how do we feel about sonic fox converting famous and rich men into gay furries

>>182018251
YRC should be like ASB's instead in regards to how the stopping works.

>>182018469
indifferent

>>182018310
No she isn't. Barely has anything going for her.

>>182018469
They can be richer
They can be smarter
They can be better looking
They can be better at me in fg's
They can be nicer and more courteous

I will be better because they're still a gay furry

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>>182018103
>furshit

kys desu

>>182018746
>pedoshit

>>182018271
FGC doesn't know what it wants

>>182018103
That isn't either, but she's way better than Flatinum.

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>>182018103
Makoto is boring

>>182017853
You're wrong

>>182018271
fgc used to be elitist cunts
now they want to grow and to get casuals even interested you need single player shit
fgc changed and is still changing
they = tournament organizers

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It's Mai!

>>182018271
Nobody wants games they just want another daigo parry to cum over

>>182019115
Are you trying to say rachel is worse?

>>182019336
Who?

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>>182019752
I'm saying Rachel is the best

>>182018271
It's almost like different people have different opinions.

>>182019336
A boy

>playbirth
is this the new playblue

i only check this generall occasionally for fap material

>>182020989
They coexist, although a new UNIEL is about to drop so it gets posted more often now.

>>182020103
I'm gay for that boy.

Tomorrow I'm getting SFV, are DLC characters for free or in-game cash or real money ? Otherwise I'm just getting KoF or Tekken

>>182004094
people like you make me ashamed to be a ram player

>>182021823
Both

>>182021823
In-game cash

>>182021823
You can get them by buying the season pass or by spending the virtual currency ou get by playing. I reccomend the later, except if you're really impatient or absolutely can't stand single player content.
Also, if you buy it make sure to download make sure you download the story mode, at least on steam it's a separated free DLC.

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>>182020989
playbirth on the 20th of this month, anon!

>>181998453
>get to the heat of battle! Go for it!

>>181999415
you can change system voice though

>>182021992
>blonde
>twin drills
>black stockings

*unzips dick*

>>182021992
No one is going to import a fighting game that they aren't already heavy into or have a scene around them which doesn't exist pretty much anywhere.

>Transcending History and the world; a tale of souls and swords, eternally retold
I NEED YOU SOUL CALIBUR VI AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>182022112
You can put your trip back on Redblade

>>182007474
hahah, it's the week after EVO
E3
>w-w-wait for EVO for the announcement!
EVO
>w-w-wait for Comic Con for the announcement!
Comic Con
>w-w-wait for tokyo game show for the announcement
tokyo game show
>w-w-wait for the CPT 2017 finals for the announcement

this is how it will go down

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>>182022158
>No one is going to import a fighting game

lol yeah bro just like nobody imported SIGN as soon as it dropped, or Rev, or UNIEL, or any of the BB games. i'm sure nobody is going to do that for this game either.

lmao

>>182022158
you don't have to import, most people on ps3/4 have a jp psn account

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>>182022223
does headblade know that Erika only likes Chads?

>>182021823
you can get them with ingame money, however you can get maybe 2. Otherwise you need to farm ingame money, which takes more time than getting a part time job and just buying it with real money

>>182010721
upper and 2 were both on naomi hardware bro.

>>182022223
He isn't the only one who thinks erika is the best unist.

>>182018251
i could see why people dont like danger time but yrcs are actually awesome and open up so much depth in terms of movement and meter management. most of the dropping sfv crowd have gone to tekken.

>>182017698
literally every character in guilty is cheap and unfair to play against. that's what makes it so balanced.

@182023541
*yrcs your uninformed post before you have a chance for it to come out*

Anyone in EU up for Rev 2 or SFV? Rev 2 pref but whatevz fighting games.

>>182023754
pc?

>>182023904

Yeah.

>>182023669
That's bullshit and you know it.

>>182024005
what's your steam?

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Anyone tekken 7 PC or doa5lr Xbone us?

>>182017698
>marn
lmao

>>182024118

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Rosetheme/

>>182024067
name a fighting game that's more balanced

>>182024269
That's not the main point. The bullshit part is the

>is cheap and unfair to play against. that's what makes it so balanced.

>>182024361
that's true though

>>182024269
Karate champ

>>182024361
Buffing > Nerfing

Imo

Look at SFV, everything gets nerfed to the ground, for example non-invincible dps, and the few characters it didn't affect too much get grossly overpowered (laura, balrog, etc) while every other character feels like a wet noodle unable to do anything.

In GG, sure there is some dumb stuff, like gorilla mash leo, or sin. But Leo has weaknesses, he's slow, he can't block in his stance, a lot of his shit is able to be grabbed, sin has weaknesses too, so does elphelt, and usually the top top tier characters aren't the ones winning tournaments, like in SF where only top tier wins outside of a couple exceptions.

>>182024361
its all relative. compared to normal fighting game characters they're all broken

>>182024638
for all of SFV's faults, its not balance.

Literally every character except Alex, Ryu and Juri have played in Grand Finals at a CPT event this year.

>>182024667
This.

Compared to SF, GG (and other anime) is kusoge broken op shit. But compared to itself, gg is pretty tame. The only bad mechanic in xrd is danger time.

Compare GG to marvel. GG doesn't have infinites, gg has much better defensive options (compared to "LOL MASH X FACTOR TO WIN"), GG doesn't have shitty comeback mechanics, GG doesn't have 1 touch 1 kill combos, etc.

Just because the game is slightly faster paced and has some "anime" mechanics compared to SF, doesn't mean the game is unbalanced or broken. It's just different. It's much more balanced than SFV, even pot wins tournaments with F.A.B. and he is lowest of low tier.

I'd rather play goobers than marvel or injustice or mk or killer instinct. SFV is a tossup because it's still alive so playing it can be more fun since im not waiting years for lobbies or good connections, but I don't think it's as fun of a game, nor more balanced.

>>182024968
>GG doesn't have shitty comeback mechanics
>The only bad mechanic in xrd is danger time.

>>182024968
>compared to itself
what did he mean by this

Did Broski play more yesterday, or was it that one match? I turned it off after they were talking for like 40 minutes straight with literally nothing happening in the middle.

>>182024438
The Syndrome meme fails because not all bullshit is created equal, my bullshit is more consistent then your bullshit and nets better payoffs or less work, efficiency in propagating bullshit can heavily vary in the cast.

>>182024638
>Buffing > Nerfing

Have fun power creeping yourself into a corner.

>>182025214
i don't know, i turned it off too
esports is terrible

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Is she a fraud?

>>182025114
it's not a comeback mechanic though, it's something that randomly occurs and cant be controlled and it doesn't give the losing player an advantage, the winning player gets the benefits too/

>>182025214
Is broski going to Evo to drown in pools?

>>182025114
Danger time is shitty mechanic but it's not a come back mechanic.

>>182024638
Actually, Arcsys is known to start with broken shit on the drawing board and in later patches toning down shit that are too broken so some characters don't get too stupid. Nerfing mechanic is pretty important sometimes too. Many Ram's stuff, Johny's unblockable set up, sin's beak driver, elphelt's many thing are many of the good nerfs that make the game more reasonable.

>>182023541
i completely disagree due to input eating and that yrc freeze can actually completely lock out reversals on wake up even completely independent of the input eating
and that the best way to counter yrc is to yrc yourself
and that even getting a good read gets fucked by yrc
and that reading a yrc yields no reward most of the time or even an advantage for the other player because they just did yrc so of course they get to do stuff
it literally reinforces that epic goober gear is a 1 player game meme

>>182026921
Marvel has literally always and forever been a 1 player game, even back in marvel 2, yet it's still one of the most popular and loved fighting games of the past 20 years. All NRS games are 1 player games. BB is a one player game. Skullgirls is a one player game. KoF is a one player game.

What's your point?

>>182024968
idk why people point to marvel combos like it means anything or compare a 3v3 game to a 1v1
1 kill is 1 life bar and you have 3 which means 2 incoming mixups and each combo would be 33%
at least look at it that way instead of blatantly bashing the game for no reason because it doesnt support your argument anyway since one is a team game and the other is not
and i fucking hate marvel and every marvel-like game

>>182025825
tekken is impossibly hard compared to most fighters

so she's defo good

>>182024968
also stop saying fab wins tournaments he literally has done absolutely nothing besides top 16 or 32 at evo since xrd dropped aside from winning some single elim mikado weeklies that fucking chappu wins sometimes

Hey guys so my stick is constantly going to the right no matter what I d, and I was wondering what the problem is and how to fix it. Do I replace the entire joystick itself?

>>182025825
>plays ling
Yes

>>182025214
I did the same.

>>182026921
I wish that you can still input and have it buffer during the duration of YRC. That would solve a lot of problem. All ASW have to do is to have YRC not eat the input.

Sometimes the freeze help making many yrc-able thing not too stupid and give you some time to react. This is major for yrc of moves that move the player forward really fast and even maintain air momentum for air moves.

>>182027425
well there are only 2 evo for xrd and that's not too good of a sample size. I agree that FAB is unlikely to win big tournament such as evo because Pot has it rough in tournament setting but everyone still cheer for him. He was so close in both games that he lost during evo sai 2017 top 8, it was heart breaking. Both games were against players who got 1st and 2nd place too for the tournament.

>>182026002
>Hellfire

If you think that SFV is casualized trash and then go play Overwatch then you're being a really big hypocrite.

Overwatch, just like SFV, is built around e-Sports but rather than focusing itself for the needs of high level play it does that for the needs of lower skilled players. Both games take huge parts of their respective genres and simplify them to the point they become a lot accessible to the expense of entertainment at high level play ("Press Q to win" in Overwatch, which replaces the point of high movement and high skill ceiling in FPS games, CCs in SFV which deconstructs the need of a proper footsie game also due to the priority system).

Hi altaccz.

>>182028061
Shut the fuck up, you play Melty and that piece of shit is way more broken than Guilty Gear.

So I have the ps4 slim. I played SFV on pc but it's pretty dead (700 players during the hours I can play)

I've been enjoying tekken 7 on PC but all the local events and small FGC play on ps4.

Would it be worth to get sfv and tekken 7 on ps4?

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>>182028204
He just pointed out a shitty comeback mechanic in GG, calm down

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>>182028204
Why are goobers so angry

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NO BULLY

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tekken

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Fighting game hype seems low right now. I hope Dragonball and Marvel do well because evo looks like it'll be struggle tier this year

>>182028520
What's happening in this webm?

>>182028551
Is this guy just a comedy act or something?

>>182028095
Both of these games are designed to make even the less skilled player to feel good about his "performance", even if said performance wasn't so good in a bigger scale of things.

If you play like shit for an entire Overwatch match and then you manage to get some nice event going on for you like a big killing with a Q you'll still get rewarded with cards or highlights, despite you not doing shit for the rest of the match.

SFV doesn't give you neat looking highlights or shiny lootboxes but it does give you reward in-game in terms of what's happening during the match. The Crush Counter system is entirely built around that. It deconstructs the point of a proper footsie game and rewards with a VFX and huge damage output if you follow it up with a combo.

>>182028061
Hellfire is indeed a comeback mechanic. It's not too much damage at least since if you confirm the overdrive from a normal, it would prorate quite a bit. The hellfire state also at pretty low hp and many characters with lower guts can die from a combo without reaching it.

I think ultra in SFIV weren't too bad of a comeback mechanic other than elena's dumb healing ultra and e.ryu's ultra 2.
I don't like SFV's v-trigger though. It doesn't require a legitimate confirm with its own risk like ultra in SFIV. V-trigger is basically free safe activation with no risk (and allow a random crush-counter) and give many character huge boost in damage, mix-up and change the playstyle of some. It gives much more comeback potential due to its risk free nature.

>>182028598
F O O T S I E S

>>182027927
i agree that the slowdown helps noticing that but its purely for new players
if you know some forward moving attack has an frc point and you see the opponent has 25 meter you should always be ready for it once you see the startup of that move and react if they miss the frc
but you can yrc anything anytime
am i supposed to do nothing but wait for chipp to teleport yrc at me or alpha blade yrc his way in and my only possible reaction on this read in this scenario is block

fab wins matches but he will never win a tournament because his one character in this game that he has played for over 15 years is complete garbage
if with all that experience and with all his absurd skill in guilty gear he cant make potemkin work in a tournament with other strong players then no one can
and then theres the ram and dizzy players who also do nothing besides grind out arcade games and get by with 45% win rates at best while paying extra money to not get demoted in rank

sure any char can win in xrd
outside of top level
and if you agree to that then it applies to quite a few fighting games right now and in the past and is not something to boast about
especially when the awesome moments and matches are in horribly balanced games with awful matchups and overcoming those odds
when everyone does retarded bullshit like ram winning a match it is never impressive because she gets one generally randomly lucky hit into corner carry into vortex
trying to play a real solid game in xrd with mid or low tier characters at a high level is so excruciatingly difficult and not rewarding enough when you can play solid with sin or johnny or elph or raven and do infinitely better
even godlike solid players like fab or haaken or kazuki or ruu dont get anything done anymore and its painful to watch because it is so very clearly their character being the main shortcoming and the game not rewarding those chars nearly enough for playing really clean and solid
machaboo is smart for playing sin

Does anybody else hate Dragunov to the point of turning off a stream just because his entire design disgusts you?

>>182027520
Unplug the joystick from the pcb

>It still goes to the right
Issues with the pcb.

>It stops going to the right
It's the joystick's switch.

>>182028937
Well if chipp can yrc teleport and hit a button, including 0-frame grab, it would be tougher to react. At least you can block or have time to press grab as well on reaction during yrc slow down.

Elphelt hasn't won anything though, even when she was broken. Sin won but sin was played by machabo and he was legitimately a really good player anyway. Machabo also win stuff with Ky and Sol before since he's just a master at shoto. There are just a lot of good players in GG. Also, characters in GG are just so hard to master and maintain at competitive level that not many top players can main multiple characters. Many low tier SF can see top tournament play because players can main multiple characters and switch if they run into a really bad match up. Switching characters is more difficult in GG since each play so differently with different complicated execution.

>>182028958
No, he's a pretty cool guy

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>>181994584
consider this

a friendly reminder

Would SFV be less frustrating if damage was universally lowered by 20% to reduce variance from round to round?

>>182030550
leave the damage the way it is but lower the stun and make vreversals throw invincible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HKuMMachCo

What's your opinion on basic combos

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>>182012860
Tryhard is a state of mind and its obvious to spot from people who lack fighting spirit

"Tryhard" is cobra kai

Whenever I used to invite a guy to play with me in Injustice 2 he would use the most obnoxious playstyle imaginable in a casual setting (zoning) and clash every single time he was about to lose to get a huge chunk of health back he spent all match building from projectiles, never taking the hint since I didnt clash a single time. What is the point of prolonging a match like that instead of just seeing who wins with the given lifebar when its not even a real competitive environment?

>>182030872
So you want your opponent to hold back?

>>182030915
No, I want my opponent to not care about whether or not they win or lose. Being tryhard is to lack self awareness in what usually takes place in friendly sparring matches

>>182030915
He's baiting, don't reply

>>182030550
the damage is fine, nothing wrong with a high damage game
what sucks is that many characters have insane cornercarry and oki.

>>182030987
So you want your opponent to not try to win and let you win instead?

>>182030550
It would be less frustrating if there were more defensive options so you slash the number of situations where you need to just straight up guess on wakeup

There's nothing inherently wrong with high damage, but high damage and oppressive offense with almost no way out is a bad combination

>>182029554
machaboo contradicts that last point and he was playing sign sol he will never switch to sol because hes now mid tier and doesnt reward solid clean play well enough which is paraphrasing his words
fab and kazuki have been playing nothing but gg in terms of fighting games and their respective characters for many many years and now get nowhere
why are they not rewarded for their character mastery and solid play then
how come some zadi guy pick up raven and play clean and solid with him and suddenly get on their level
even wild boys like kaz and dogura have been doing much better back in jp since switchin to raven when you would think for kaz in particular sol would suit his style really well
what is one of the premier top level solid baiken players of xx doing now that baiken is in xrd and is not good enough because iirc sharon went back to playing millia
even bedman players are saying hes no longer worth the effort in rev2 after spending years developing and trying to master him beyond gimmicks and tricks
and where are literally any of the axl players either new or veteran
shimonkin got top 8 at evo and is that all even including big jp tournaments

elphelt won nothing in japan yes but japan also just disregarded the character completely they only gave her a second look after coming to america and seeing the plethora of elphelts let alone the plethora of ones placing well
meanwhile lost soul starts playing xrd and wins everything for a while
i think he can be a top lvl player but thats neither here nor there so i concede that point about elph

Akuma in Tekken is so fucking stupid i'm already sick of him and the kids that play him

Street Fighter was a mistake

>>182031431
>add a character that isnt the same shit again
>tekkenbabbs cry

>>182025214
i watched the whole thing, and he didn't play more. what a crappy format

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Nice cirurgy faggot

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post braindead animal characters

you guys will find any excuse to hate a game and suck top player dick

>>182031387
I don't see why it matters that FAB cant win in xrd, Daigo cant win with Ryu, you don't see people bitching about that.

Besides, the last GG game before xrd was pot nightmare hell, so FAB is getting his just desserts.

>>182031856
>Daigo cant win with Ryu, you don't see people bitching about that
Yes they do, what the fuck are you talking about? Lots of people were saying the balance in S2 was shit and using Daigo not being able to win with Ryu as a point of reference.

It sucks in jive how you have the same rank for all chars. I want to learn Urien without losing all my points.

>>182031154
I want him to not tryhard. I dont care if he wins just like I dont care if I win. If hes tryharding on autopilot instead of taking the learning opportunity he should be labeled appropriately

>>182031006
w-waah anything I cant argue against is b-bait

>>182031856
nobody cares about sfv. it's a dead game with esports money pulling a weekend at bernies

>>182032176
Well how do you play while not trying to win? But also not trying to lose. It's the point of these games. I don't get it.

>>182031856
fab literally does nothing in fgs besides play potemkin in guilty gear and this has been the case for over a decade
he didnt switch chars voluntarily like machaboo or fino and he didnt try to play any other game like n-o or dogura or inoue
daigo is esports and more community focused nowadays iirc hes a fg coordinator or rep or something for twitch japan and i think he still does his beat tv streams and shit
people excuse him because he was the best or among them for over a decade and now hes taking a clear step back from competition to help grow the community or help in other ways besides providing exciting matches like he used to want and be able to do
fab has not slowed down in that regard whatsoever and a very clear reason hes not doing nearly as well is his character is a giant walking armored trash can
besides everyone knows sfv sucks so no one cares if daigo isnt doing well with a bad char in a garbo game

the only reason i mentioned him is because someone else mentioned fab is representative of xrds (not even remarkable) character balance when in reality he is clearly suffering from his character weighing him down
he might be the best gg player of all time in terms of being the complete package player and completely mastering his character and yet here he is

Should the main character of a fighting game always have a beginner moveset?

>>182032187

yeah no one cares thats why combobreaker had 40k viewers

>>182032436
Let me give you an easier example of this exact phenomenon

Youre playing against someone you know. They dont pick their main because theyre trying to learn a new character. You still pick your main because thats who youll definitely win with. Its tryharding

Proof that the next character will be Abigail

https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/character/abg?lang=en

Look at the tab's name.

>>181996746
tekken bowling was based fuck you

>>182032649
>that complete incompetence again
lmao

>Be Karin
>Read or react to a jump in
>Anti air and it trades or you eat the a max damage combo

I see why mago is switching to Rashid now this is just dumb.

>>182032176
>instead of taking the learning opportunity
Shouldn't you be taking the learning opportunity? If he's actually autopliloting it should be esier for you to find the weak spots of his strat.

>>182032967
Reasonable assumption but not applicable in all situations

For example in the current injustice 2 roster some matchups are almost impossible. Fingers crossed for a rosterwide zoning nerf after EVO so that people cant get braindead wins. Atleast in street fighter zoning usually has a risk/reward element and noobs will be immeaditely destroyed.

>>182032842
>Wanting the chracter with the best ground game in the roster to also have good antiairs
Why not give her a command throw and a bunch of extra life while we're at it?

>>182032842
how do you eat a max damage combo if the antiair trades?

>>182032842
Yeah she should have no weaknesses you're right

>>182032476
GotB should always be well rounded and have low execution barriers.

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been watching trigun, drinkin and playin geetar i am pumped for some quick ST gamez before passin out

SEE ME RN ST n e 1 https://my.mixtape.moe/mqdaxw.mp3

>>182033337
t. probably cried about vega's anti airs in 4

>>182033427
Vega's anti-airs were fine

Does Japan still have arcade cabinets that have slots to plug in your own controller?

>>182032842
get good. Unless the opponent has a particularly nasty air option like akuma's air fireball karin's anti airs are perfectly serviceable. And even if they do you just need to learn to adapt.

>>182032842
Funny how people still find ways to complain about a literal S tier character with practically no bad matchups.

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good anti airs should be a right, not a privilege

jumping is dishonest practice and should be discouraged and not encouraged

>>182033768

>Karin
>S tier

lmao is this a joke?

>>182033865
karin has a dp anti-air tho

>jive babbs too bad to time a fucking anti air against jumps that have no possible variation in their arc or timing

lmaooooooooooooo

>>182033865
nice tumblr meme

>>182033915
Literally everyone agrees that she is godlike. She could just push buttons all day and win. Having a less than stellar AA is the one and only weakness she has.

>>182021992
Erika is a literal goddess that i want to worship.Now if only she wasn't flat

>>182022490
pls no false rumors about my wife

>>182033865
Enjoy your 1.5d fighter.

>>182033915
I think pretty much everyone realizes by now that Karin is stupidly good when shes played optimally by a player like Punk. Name one truly bad matchup that she has.

>>182033865
is saving your meter to confirm jabs into 300+ damage instead of using it to anti-air a right too?

>>182034184
This.