/tekgen/ - Tekken General

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrxLG4_Saeg

THREE YEARS

>>181819195
>Kazumi
>good

Play the robot.

Ft10 me PS4 NA I need to warm up before I play ranked today :3

I never believed in all this 'unga bunga low iq dishonest' shit in Tekgen, but having just played 5 games against a Katarina, I understand it now.

I mean I still won but low sweep into mashing 4, fucking ungabungabananaboat man.

>>181826089
kek

>>181826201
Just sidestep launch in the middle of her 4 strings

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>>181826089
Fuck

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Today, I will learn Claudio as my secondary to Eliza.

>>181826201
If you are fighting Kats that use 4, 4s to juggle you must be really low ranked.

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>>181826089

Now you've done it.

>>181826371
Yea dude just fucking around in blue ranks, I can actually play online since yesterday's patch and don't care enough right now to actually attempt getting greens.

>waaah m-muh deer-headed, butterfly-winged, green-puke aura, pizza throwing, gimp-suited Claudio! Baamcoo

kys customization shitters

>>181826473
Are you ok?

scrub here, played nothing but kazuya so far, and I definitely feel good at defense now

gimme an offensive character where I can learn the whole other side of the game where I can't just fish for counter hits or punish whiffs all day

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Reminder

>>181826613
Heihachi

>>181826473
Get a trip, murray.

>>181826613
Nina

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Remember to support true love

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Oh. Claudio is for "those" types of people.

>>181826613
What's your rank?

>Feel good at defense now

Doubt it. Unless you're yellow rank kazuya

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>>181826828
Welcome to literally 3 years ago, fuccboii.

>>181826828
I don't know what this costume is a reference to.

>>181826828
>leave Jin to me

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Delicious mommy

>go against a Katarina with a 100% win rate
>hmmmm
>1-0 her
>connection instantly drops to unplayable

It's always the same fucking people.

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>cries like a pussy
>will break your shins and snap your neck in an instant
is Josie actually just a psychopath

>>181827057
Lili is better

Oh boy!

I can't wait to see how badly the tripfag gets Blown The Fuck Out yet again in this thread!

>>181827057
oh god yes that flat average ass

>>181827057
>finally girl mishima
>weird style filed with tiger attacks
>no straight karate

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>>181827291
>>181827376

Prepare to fucking die, amigo

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>>181827057
>black
NOT ON MY WATCH!

>>181826852
so instead of rounding out my game you recommend I reach yellow ranks playing with a lopsided understanding of the game? thanks man, you must be an expert at tekken

Hey.

Are there any EU PS4 players want to go a few rounds?

>>181827125
Josie, lili and Eliza all tick my autism by having launchers that involve a shinny unmuscular girl lightly tap me with their hand causing me to fly into the air

>>181826089
The rank up-indicator would make it SO much more motivating for me to play, personally. I can't really explain it.

>>181827653
At least Eliza has the excuse of being an inhuman monster.

>>181827562
Implying kazuya can't be played offensively with his God tier 50/50s. Guess there is a reason why u started your post off with "scrub here"

>>181827125
She's just reminiscing her "training" sessions with Kuma

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>>181827057
MOM

>>181827653
What about Lucky Chole and Xiao, my friend?

>>181827882
Lucky Chloe is obviously a capo demon, Kazuya made her the face of G-corp for a reason

>>181827882
>implying Chloe doesn't have 80lb weights inside of her cat paw sleeves

>>181827882
Xiaoyu is powerful

>get to green ranks just mashing sweep with bryan
this game is easy

>>181827057
My speech device lodged comfortably into her small backdoor

>>181827605
Rank and country?

>>181828185
I got to green mashing 3 and 4 on devil jin

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>>181828189
Heihachi, please

I'm new to Tekken. Bought it yesterday before I went to sleep so I could play after waking up.

I love it. This is so much more fun than SFV. Damn.

I'm trying some stuff with Xiaoyu. Why are some moves pushing back opponents? They like slide on the ground, way out of my reach, so there is no way I can combo afterwards.

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/tekgen/ tourneys are live!
US/PC:
http://challonge.com/95bscdbn
EU/PC:
http://challonge.com/kboqilts

When?
Starting 1st of July until 31st of July

Rules:
FT3
Double elimination bracket with random seeding
tourney settings (60 seconds, 3 rounds)
There must be a spectator.
Spectator must be someone who also enters the tournament
First match must be random stage.
Loser can pick character and stage.
Winner can't switch character.
item moves allowed
You have 3 days to complete your match.
Everyone can play their matches until top 8.
Report matches on discord or /tekgen/ thread.
Top 8 will be streamed by me.
5 EUR steam card for winners
PS4 will be in August.

Reminder that you need to play your matches.

>>181828695
You mean juggle combos? The enemy's gonna be pushed further away after every hit.

>>181828695
That's called a knockback, good if you want to give yourself some breathing room(say you're against a wall) or usually just used to punish stuff that you cant launch punish

Is it even worth trying to learn how to play Yoshi when I haven't had much experience in fighting games before? Or will he somehow make me a better player in the long run?

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>>181828695
That's a crazy vague statement
Juggles are toned down, every hit you get midair launchers farther and does less. Screws send them farther based on how many mid-air hits you get off

If you mean in general, Tekken has almost no standing combos, the ones that are real are usually called hit comfirms. Knockdown comes put of faster moves, it's a spacing tool used to get your opponent away from you or close to a wall.

Does that answer your question?

>>181828695

>This is so much more fun than SFV. Damn.

After getting into Tekken I can't go back to Street Fighter because the characters just feel too limited.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

>>181829110
Keep her at distance

>>181829110
Duck her jabs.

I just saw the Tekken Bowl trailer and man that takes me back to when I played TTT1 and hardly understood it.
My "mains" were P. Jack and Angel because I thought they looked cool

>>181829110
work on your sniff punishment

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Will Paul ever stop getting bullied by bears?

what are some good safe mids to throw out with jin to prevent people from ducking on me all day?

>>181829173
>These characters are easy to play!!
>Bryan
>Devil Jin
>Heihachi
>Kazuya
>Feng
>Alisa

>Yellow
>Steve
>Leo

Whoever made this list is a fucking retard

>>181829110
always duck after an initial mid or high left kick, if you think they are stringing
the followup is always either high or low

>>181829597
ever since I discovered Kuma's hunting stance goes under Jin's rage art i've loved facing Jin

>>181829668
what's wrong with bryan, kazuya and heihachi? they're great beginner characters that won't teach you bad habits

>>181829668
What's wrong with Alisa? She has a lot of gimmicky shit but if you have the sense to avoid it I think she's a fine beginner character.

>>181829597
F+4, Learn to cancel too
d/f+1

>>181829668
Is it bait?

>>181829597
jin has tons of good mids

2,1
df1
ff2
b3
f4

>>181829668
>>These characters are easy to play!!
That's not what it says

>>181829668
Reread it. It's not about easy to play, it's about whether it's good for learning fundamentals

>>181829760
>Bryan
Teaches you to rely on easy safe strings and snake edge, you won't learn about the game

>Kazuya, Heihachi
Teaches you to rely on 50/50 out of cd, doesn't teach you fundamentals

>>181829789
Shouldn't play her precisely because she is so gimmicky, you won't learn anything about the game aside from cheesing blue ranks.

>>181830039
Sounds like something Lucifer would post

>>181829912
The startup on ff3 is a billion years though

>>181830039
Alisa isn't that gimmicky. Almost all of her weird stuff is unsafe. If you want to get good with her you have to rely mostly on basic, "honest" tools.

>>181829173
>Akuma
>good for learning fundamentals

>>181830039
If you're putting effort into learning the game at all you can easily avoid Alisa's gimmicks and play a basic poking game that'll be good to learn with.

>>181830216
ff2, not ff3

ff3 still pretty good tho

>>181830039
What a load of nonsense. Alisa teaches you how to play neutral and relies heavily on movement for those whif punishes. You can play her gimmicky but you won't get far at all, beside what gimmicks are you talking about? Fly gimmicks, DES gimmicks, or simple stupid shit like snake edge?

>>181826613
You're playing a Mishima my man. You can be offensive effectively with wave dash mixups even as the 'defensive' Mishima. EWGF is the best pressure tool/whiff punish you could ask for.

>>181826613
The defensive/offensive dichotomy is not an absolute one

>>181830359
Oh, yeah ff2 is great mid
f4 is what you should stick to tho because it combos on CH and is + on block and frametraps into his most damaging launcher

fuck me I need to get good at cancelling it

TEKKEN BOWL MUHFUCKA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqX0KBqxNY8

haha tekken bowl
but seriously when are they gonna buff Chloe

>>181830378
tbf there's a decent amount of Alisa shitters in low ranks who use all the moves that have her jump like hopkick, 1+2, b3+4,3+4 etc. nonstop. But if you actually care about improving it's not a big deal. It's all easy to counter so it's likely you'll get blown up sooner than later for abusing them and realize why it's gimmicky.

>>181831042
>It's all easy to counter
>doesnt say how
hmm I woder who could be behind this post

>>181831246
Haha just side walk left haha and punish it how hard can it be haha

>>181831246
>block
>she's in recovery for three days
>launch her with your iTwoDays launcher

>>181826828
I'd give my left bollock to have that costume for Lee or King

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>>181830039
>Bryan teaches you to rely on easy safe strings and snake edge
Literal fucking kyu detected. Bryan's strings are more linear than your family tree my man, and no one beyond blue ranks will get hit by random snake edges unless you make a hard read to catch them moving/crush a high. In fact if anything snake edge teaches not to get too low happy because when it gets blocked you lose half your health.

>>181831246
Sidewalk avoids most of them clean

>>181831346
>everyone plays braindshimas

>>181829173
Is there any one of these greens that is "the best" to learn with or will picking any of them help me in the long run?

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>>181831484
>no one beyond blue ranks will get hit by random snake edges
h-haha yeah, retards

>>181831719
Dude are you retarded? There's not a character in this game without a launcher to punish that shit with.

tekken bowl tournaments?

>>181831770
Pick whoever you want anon
Whoever you or your dick thinks is cool

>>181831484
dumb ffrog poster

>>181831820
Well maybe if it's a bad connection it's hard to react to. Gotta watch your ankles my dude, it's slow as molasses. Are you getting caught trying to move in or just straight up failing to react?

>>181831846
The problem is that I like too many characters, finding a proper main is extremely difficult

>>181831956
Just failing to react. I'll do it occasionally but sometimes I'm waiting for it (like they're doing mids and I'm thinking they'll snake edge soon) and still get hit, it's fucking embarrassing. Didn't stop me from getting to Warrior but it's definitely a massive hindrance.

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>>181831828
Oh god which character is getting dodged in online bowling? I'm guessing the same

>>181831828
That's it guys, gonna cancel PS4 tourney in august and we're doing Tekken Bowl instead.

>>181832303
Ranked TekkenBowl when

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>killed someone with Asuka's giant hammer
Every fucking time it makes me laugh

>set matches to 5 bar only
>it takes 5 minutes to get a match
>set to 4 or above
>get matches quickly but I can't block fucking snake edges in time or punish 10f consistently

;_;

>>181831820
dumb frogposter

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Does anyone else feel like this?

https://youtu.be/KvakVsEUL_8?t=5m

I need you 2B

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>>181831984
Leo, Lili, Marshall Law, Miguel, Josie, Shaheen

all good starters, real basic

>>181832619
>complains about 5m for a match

It takes 1h in my country at 3 bars.

>>181832686
That's a thing in any fighting game, and even most competitive games in general. There's no reason to be so aggressive about it, though.

>>181832908
well that sucks

>>181832686
>tmm
lmao

>>181832213
I'm guessing Jack's computer guided power-bowling probably isn't going to be too popular for his competitors.

Who's the fastest-paced character?

>>181832619
I block lows on 3 bar connections.

>fight lili
>all black dress
>now looks like faded over 20 years
thonks horodo

>>181833385
Nina maybe.

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*sweeps you*

>>181833385
Steve

This update is amazing. Infinite revenge matches and less wait time was needed

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>>181833385
Alisa is pretty fast!

I can't wait for blue ranks to demand for bowling tier lists!

>>181833403
i have slow old man reactions i need 5 bar so i can block at the last second lol

>>181833451
Why hasn't PC got that patch yet?

>>181833568
Leo's bowl game is too strong! Nerf this tranny!

>>181832686
>lagstation
>letsplayer
kys sonygger

>>181833767
they are doing segmented patches on PC to make sure it works i guess. PC still doesn't have all the function 1.02 yet. supposedly the rest of 1.03 will be out next week. will also probably do the rest of 1.02 if they figured out why removing character shown broke matchmaking on PC.

>>181829141
Play second character additianally.

LMAO at all these tryhard Jin bowlers who think they're good because they win by brainlessly abusing his hook ball

How do I make eliza not look like a whore?

>>181833953
Who would you recommend?

>>181834030
Why would you?

>>181833767
#4theplayers

>>181832686
yes
playing too smart for your opponent is absolutely a thing
sometimes you have to "dumb yourself down" to play effectively

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>play steve since launch
>lose almost all of my matches but never get dodged
>start playing asuka because i want to try an easier character
>suddenly winning a ton of matches but getting dodged all the time

i deserve this

>>181833767
according to my sources sony paid harada five hundred thousand dollars to delay the endless rematching feature until next week on PC

So I have question regarding rank

If I beat same rank I get 1 point
If I lose to someone of same rank I get lose 1 point

So you have to win 2 in a row to be "profitable"

>>181832686
Not exactly like this, but I get fucked by people who play a character in a very different way than anyone else.

Like, I was having immense trouble with Katarina that was backdashing all day and playing 99% defensive. Every other Kata was spamming kicks and suddenly I didn't know what to do.

>>181834030
She has a unique gothic lolita dress.

>>181834250
Steve is so much stronger than Asuka how are you doing this

how to beat asuka:
Mid knee

>>181834250
How do I win against Steve?

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This is you guys supposed good game?

https://twitter.com/CommanderLovely/status/882921859347611649

>>181834367
>>181834428

im barely out of kyus and this is my first tekken to beat my steve all you need to do it duck my highs and not hit any buttons while im spamming b+1

>>181833992
Stop getting hit by it ;)

>>181826089

It's remarkable how much Harada hates Tekken. The game is utterly ruined yet he keeps finding ways to make it even worse.

>>181834367
Asuka is much easier for a beginner and only 2nd dan shitters will abuse the counter

>>181833992
t. Katarina bowler

Let me guess, you UNGA your buttons and wonder as to why you're not throwing your bowling ball at full strength?

>>181826089
Based Harada, grey is THE new black in 2017. He knows his fashion.

Can't wait for Lucifer to show his bowling rank.

>>181835139
He already has, check the archives.

>>181830789
>65%
What does this mean?

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>>181835207

>>181835240
power, probably

>messing around with Paul in practice mode
>for the low, low price of a qcf+2 and one second of your time, you too can take off 1/3 of your opponent's health
what a joke character pham

>>181834701
He and Ono really are good friends. You could switch them out and ther would be no difference in the games.

>>181834567
There is literally nothing wrong in that clip

That's either df2 or WS2 and the Feng went around her, not through her.

>>181835331
Take also notice of the free and easy mixup with demoman which is a true combo.

>>181829998
and the character it considers good for fundamentals clearly fucking aren't. Hell Gigas, Lucky Chloe, Jack require literally no understanding of Tekken mechanics they actually really on totally different and very specific skills than most characters,

>>181835492
You're a fucking idiot lmao

>>181830039
>getting hit by snake edge
>getting hit by basic ass strings

>>181835657
Henche they're characters "for people who understand Tekken mechanics". It doesn't call them "good for fundamentals".

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Based Harada teaching disloyal non-preorderers a lesson by delaying the Eliza release

>>181835802
the characters I mentioned don't relate to my first sentence on fundamentals, I'm saying playing them has nothing to do with understanding Tekken mechanics like iframes etc you just need to know their moveset. Also you can't break up fundamentals and Tekken mechanics, the fundamentals of Tekken ARE it's mechanics like iframes, counterhits and combos.

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>playing Asuka
>playing against a Lars that is doing perfect combos and perfect low parries my db4
>but he can't do anything else for shit
>has some massive phobias of poking or lows
>he just keeps spamming mids into my reversals
>promoted twice off him already
>keeps revenge matching

who is the easiest mishima to play?

>>181836260
kaz

>>181836260
Heihachi

>>181836260
Devil Jin

>>181836260
Lars

I get fucking rekt by gigas every time

>>181836158
>sonydrone
>gay furry
>doesn't teach people and instead makes fun of them
every time

>>181834428
abuse mid pokes
t. vanguard steve

>>181836260
Jin

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Who are some good Feng players to watch? I really like his rythm, since he's basically Jet Li on steroids, but he's got so many options that I tend to get overwhelmed by them in ranked.

Also, general Feng tips please, if anyone has some. (Except "Just spam shoulder lol". I learned the hard way when not to use that one.)

>>181836980

Df1
Df2f3
Qcf1
Flk1f1

What else does he have?

t. Marauder Steve

>>181837123
Nah, stick to keyboard.

>>181834428
Use Dragunov and abuse his b3+4

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Master Raven or Lee for a secondary?

My main is Katarina

>>181837139
>What else does he have?
What do you mean exactly?

>>181837230
more buttons for macros

>>181837267
What other mid pokes u can abuse does he have?? Besides the ones I listed

>>181837230
Why not? It'll save you a fair bunch of money.

Although, if you plan on going to local tournaments, I'm not sure if you're allowed to use a keyboard. Maybe you are, absolutely no idea.

>>181832765
Lili is shit unless you're extremely good at the game.

>>181836093
>I'm saying playing them has nothing to do with understanding Tekken mechanics like iframes etc you just need to know their moveset
Are you saying that playing them isn't a great way to learn Tekken mechanics? Where's the disagreement?
>the fundamentals of Tekken ARE it's mechanics
That's not what fundamentals refer to in any fighting game. Wallrun is a Tekken mechanic but far removed from anything you'd call fundamentals. Whiff punishing isn't a mechanic and is central to Tekken.

>>181837350
It auto-parries punches. Has a big parry window too.

>>181837081
hao
nycfab

>>181837346
Standard tourney format at the moment is PS4, so you'll need the next closest thing which is a HitBox. Not sure if they'd ever allow keyboards since you can have macros on them.

Tfw u want a demotion to set you back to 0 to rank up again

>>181837123
If you can spare the money.

>>181838080
just delete your save data

Which character makes people the most mad?

>>181838220
Your main.

>bit tired of playing drag, dj, and bryan

someone give me a waifu to learn

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>>181832686
In all fighting games it goes like this.

Good player beats noob
Really good player beats good player
Noob beats really good player

The opponent cant read you if you yourself don't even know what you're doing, it's why Eddy is hated

>>181838220
xiaoyu (phoenix stance dodges more shit than it has any right to)
eddy (legacy scrub killer)
law (junkyard)
dragunov (while running autism)

>>181838372
Nina should keep you busy for a bit

How do you deal with turtlers? I feel like theres not much I can do if I don't have a life lead. If they know the strings I can only mixup so much because a lot of them are -12 or so on block and they just do their 10-12f punish and it's back to square one. I try running attacks for the block advantage but those can be sidestepped. Grabs are somewhat not reliable since the people who play this way tend to be good at breaking them or predicting when you'll go for one and throw a jab.
Anything else you can do beyond running up to them and hoping they fuck up?

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VERY fast dyke bowling at incredible hihg speed

>>181834314
I've had same with some Laws and same with Kat. I need to learn how to mount up my offense properly and bait their "keep-out defense".

>>181838434
wrong
there absolutely comes a point where you can kinda hold your own against really good players but get wrecked by people who are worse than you, but any player worth their salt gets past that
you can never be considered a really good player if you can't deal with a dp mashing ken

>>181838603
>strings
Just do unreactable low pokes, doesn't matter if they know them or not.

>>181838665
It doesnt mean you always lose against them obviously

>>181838608
autism

>>181838220
Law, Kuma, Eddy, Chloe

>>181838716
they should never lose to them is the point

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>>181838608
This is only 65% of my power.

>>181838716
I refuse to believe that JDCR would ever lose against a complete shitter. Obviously not everyone's JDCR but there's a point after which you won't lose to bad players ever and I don't believe you need to be anywhere close to his level to reach it.

Why do people dodge Kings?

Can't duck?

>>181838817
an 80 IQ BR could take a game off JDCR if that BR played Paul

>>181838913
Perhaps they're too shit to break throws, and I'm not talking about specifically command throws.

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>>181838928
Funny you say that

>>181838928
nah, maybe a round
you really don't think JDCR hasn't climbed a mountain of lobotomized paul players before getting to the point where he's considered good?

>>181836260
kuma

>>181838913
Why don't you play a real champion?

What are some of King's combos that are good for dealing with a hop kick spamming Claudio? 90% of what my friend does is hop kick to juggle and running punches. I can beat him almost every time if I spam stagger to 1,2 then dropkick/running grab the wakeup, but it's not fun and he cries about it. We're both shitters, I just would like some variety in my playstyle against him.

>>181835780
>Evasive move evades something
shocking

>>181839856
Take a look at his sample combos. I personally use the stock ass hopkick>4>d/f 4,3>d/f 1,2> then the running grab, or for wall you do f+1,2 then shining wizard aka run grab/ forward hcf 1

>>181838913
i don't dodge kings, but i really do hate playing against them. everything i do is stopped by an iSW, and no matter how I was launched, they always have a way to connect that shit into a 60 damage minimum combo. he also has a lot of annoying moves like the unblockable flip when I'm on the ground, the stupid arm sweep that hits from across the screen,his power crush and his jab strings with their built in 50/50s or my favorite "im actually going for a 10hit combo lol".
none of this would be a problem if you could just play defensively against them, but you constantly have to be aware of getting grabbed too.

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>tfw Heihachi has the type of playstyle you really enjoy but his execution curve is too fucked

Maybe it's from playing street fighter before picking up tekken, but CD motions just feel too weird.

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Play Bob.

>>181839258
i love the mental image of that little harry potter looking fuck wearing a big old Captain Cold parka as he swings an icepick and secures lines into this infinite mountain of dying Paul's

I'm mad about feng

delete all chinese characters from this game pls

>>181837081
>>181837081
Dj Vamp, Hao, Geesemaster and NYCFab.

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people are always talking about how hard EWGF is to do consistently but I'll tell ya it's executing running > hellsweep that throws me for a loop

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who would you guys recommend for someone who is experienced at fighting games but is new to Tekken and on pad?

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>>181840339
Don't worry his long lost cousin Kenpachi in Tekken8 will be way easier to learn

>>181840771
Jack-7.

>>181840771
What have you played in the past

>>181838913
It's boring to play them. If I must sure, but I'd rather not spend the entire match teching his gay furry grabs.

>>181840771

Whoever you want to play or jin

I wish the CE had the steamcode and seasonspass code seperated so I could sell it now.
Fuck bowling

I FUCKING SUCK W DRAGUNOV there's something I'm just not understanding with him...

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Thoughts?

>>181841162

where can i buy that shirt

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

If you're sharing fake combos, kill yourself.

>>181841162
>now even hitsounds are obnoxious

>>181840895
I've casually played a good amount of fighting games but the ones I've spent the most time on are Marvel 2, Vampire Savior and Heritage for the Future.

Usually in fighting games I like to go for bigger characters/grapplers who have crazy damage, long range and shorter than average combos. Juggernaut in Marvel 2, Kusragedo in Samurai Shodown V Special, Potemkin in GG.

If someone like that isn't available I default onto whatever character is kind of silly and gimmicky, though this time around I was looking for someone kind of legit so I could learn Tekken easier from the ground up.

>>181840151
I'll take a look at them and practice it a bit. The only actual combo I can pull off consistently at the moment is the d/f1 to juggle to the launched running grab, but against him I can almost never land the first hit since he plays very aggressively and never allows space, which is why stagger kicking spamming works so well against him.

>>181841412
>>181840860
Jack is perfect for you.

>>181840860
>>181840983
what do these two guys play like?

>>181841550
read the character overviews in the OP u pancake

>>181841162
Mods or part of the """new""" outfits for seasonspass?

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>>181841510
Sounds good, anon. Can you tell me more about how Jack plays?

>>181841550
my bad, ty again.

>>181841669
On-disc dlc made available by my wonderful sk1llz. I had this working weeks ago but I just now figured out something I overlooked to get them to actually function in-game and use online.

>>181837324
I meant you have to abuse mid pokes against him, since they knock him out of his stances.

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>>181841412
Sounds like you'd like Gigas a lot, he's got longest reach, big damage and far throws

Gigas has a reputation for being weak but there's not enough evidence of that to be a fact

>>181842064
What's the difference between Gigas and Jack?

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>>181815295
We have our match planned for around 5:pm EST, apparently.
>>181823009
I'll need a link to said discord.

>>181842183
Jack is a silly toy soldier with springloaded hands and Gigas is literally just Bane

Jack is harder to read and more technical, unintuitive to fight and hard to read.

Gigas will pick you up and break your spine and throw you acrosd the ring.

As far as metas go, Jack > Gigas.

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that feng guy has some real nice hitboxes on this move

>>181841902

this is why pcheaters dont deserve tekken

playstation should be the only system with tekken again because we got honor

>>181842183
besides just being different characters gigas is rushdown jack is defensive

>>181840718
gotta make sure you hit that neutral and hit the button when you get to df. you can old the df a fraction of a second so he crouch dashes a bit longer to get in range. too late though and its not a real combo.

>>181842221
https://discord.gg/FSc2ZB4

I'm up for any time at or after 5 that suits you, by the way. It doesn't have to be then.

>>181842435
>>181842486
Gigas definitely sounds cooler.
>>181842064
Why do people say he's weak, and do you think he could get better as the meta develops?

Also thanks for helping me with this, /tekgen/

>>181842064
Hey ling finally got into Jin's pants

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>>181842686
GIGAS IS THE STRONGEST GRAPPLER

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>Nina is cool as fuck
>requires minimum 200 IQ to play

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>launch the game
>my character has gray hair

>>181842872
well you're not wrong

>>181842990
>tfw to smart to play Nina

>>181842686
I don't understand it super well myself but know that the general game is balanced enough that you can still make it to top of the leaderboard. They said Jack was C tier and Gigas was F tier but two of top ten international players are jack mains so it's all shit

Just play who you like is really the best advice

>>181834701
I get the feel like we take one or two steps forward and a step or two back. We're making progress at the same time we aren't.
>patches for faster matchmaking
>reduce PS4 input lag
>getting 1-4 bars now instead of 4-5
>grey is the new black

>bring back Tekken Bowl
>probably won't have an online feature
>costumes a plenty
>still fucking grey gay

>>181843384
that's why i want to play Tekken.

this is kinda specific but do you know if one is easier on pad as opposed to the other?

Oh my god the brawlers in ranked on PC in Western Europe are such pussies
Just play my Leo you twats

>>181843450
>>reduce PS4 input lag
STILl the most laggiest version lmao

>>181843631
idk why people even go into warmup if you're gonna dodge people
just go into the match list and select who you want to play

>>181843631
I dodge anyone who plays Alisa, Chloe and Leo because I find those characters revolting: a filthy tranny, a 12 year old prancing weeboo slut spouting "kawaii" memes and a pink super anime robo bitch with the most annoying voice on the planet. No thanks. Play someone manly (Leo doesnt apply).

>>181843474
Jack is easier on pad, and there is more information readily available on how to play a good Jack in the /tekgen/ character info dump and just through matches in general because of guys like Saint and Anakin.

I'd say wait for Gigas to be buffed before touching him, and playing Jack in the meantime will help teach you Tekken and eventually any character except for the Mishimas or Street Fighter characters.

also if you just want gimmicks, Lucky Chloe is super silly and apparently won a tournament in Japan, though I haven't seen the vods for it.

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>Write down Jin's top 15 move notations
>Go into training
>Half of it doesnt work
>Turns out I wrote down Devil Jin's

>>181843926
>Manly

So we're talking like King, Gigas, Kazuma and Heihachi?

How will tekken handle dustloops?

>>181843948
+1

if you're going to start Tekken go Jack or Alisa. if you like Balrog, go Jack. if you like Ryu, go Alisa.

What the fuck is up with fucking faggots today. Everyone is playing Chloe gigas ling leo FUCK OFF play a real character

>>181844310
>if you like Balrog, go Jack
????

have you only ever played sf4 out of the sf series

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am i on the right track with this?

>>181844506
I was going with SF4 Balrog, but you're right: SF2 and SFV Balrog are very different.

Maybe Dhalsim sans fireball would have been a better comparison.

>>181841162
Can you show us what other things there are ?

>>181844568
Yeah kind of. Try getting his ws2, ff2, ff4, and uf3 from his wave dash too

I guess u can fuck people up just doing hellsweep and ws2 from wavedash tho

>>181842484
please don't say that.

>>181843450
>reduce

they reduced it less than half a frame. look at noodals tests, the recent patch is pretty much irrelevant. if possible they should be targeting 4-5f delay in the worst case.

What keeps the opponent from just cranking a mid in your face when trying to wavedash in their face. It just looks so silly to me

Like I see myself playing Jin and just f4 into it to get a CH combo out of it

Are you betting that you can cancel and block before my attack connects?

>>181843474
another not too tough pad character is Dragunov. you'll have problems with iWR2 but that's really about it.

I fucking love King, /tekgen/. I love him so much. He's incredibly fun. Punish any fucker who dares to make a mistake, fun ass wrasslin moves and sick ass chain grabs. God damn it. Why is he so good???

>>181845159
accurate King is probably the most stylish out of the top tiers, both to watch and play.

i just wish i had a stick

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>>181845159
t. you the gay furry

>>181842467
Was that a jab or a df1?

>>181843729
Yeah well it's better than nothing.
>>181844882
>4-5f delay
I don't know where to find the frame data for all this if you could show me the right direction, but wouldn't that be even smoother than T6 and TTT2? All I ask is for the delay to be turned down to their notches. The pros probably wouldn't complain either if it was back to those standards either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPplQmgCO1E
Is he right?

>>181845510
No dude it is literalyl nothing.

I wish they removed korean backdashing from the game

Does anyone else get weird delay on PC with the match announcer text?

Can't see first 2 seconds of fight because the text is still there and they overlap each other

If I'm getting lag how can I tell if it's me or them

>>181842467
>Crushing a high with a high crush

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>tfw you're not ugly, smelly, fat and stupid enough to play King and Heihachi

>>181845539
something wrong with your L key, anon? You did that twice now. Just asking.

>>181845262
you can bind some of King's commands to shoulder buttons, but i don't know which binds are the best ones to go for.

>>181845567
Against everyone or just a person?
I would check the steam cache as first step.

>>181845510
https://twitter.com/noodalls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ge6y5fEeTg

The high input delay we see in recent fighting games seems to be due to UE4 and the devs wish to unify the online and offline experience. Not something I like.

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>>181845460

regular high 1

>>181845602

comeon mang, I could literally pull his heart out

>>181845642
>Heihachi
This general manages to get worse by the day

>>181845723
Literally the first time it happened.
>you lost the arguement because I found a typo

Wait, pc has no delay right?

>>181845875
t. visits lemonparty daily

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>>181845642
The best feel desu

>>181845820
Injustice 2 is fine both offline and online thanks to ggpo.

>>181845949
PC input delay is 5-6f on average

>>181845949
Every game has delay

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>>181843729
>>181845539
Aren't these you?
>>181845919
>you lost the arguement because I found a typo
I never did say that. I literally just said, "Just asking." Why you gotta be so hostile, anon?

>>181845742
>not mastering finger dexterity and using the claw grip to its maximum

I used to think RDC was hard as fuck but with the right hold I can semi-regularly get that shit down. But it is an issue with small buttons so close together, pad would be easier for me but im2poor and I dont care that much.

>>181845982
The old meme police are here, they came for your memes

>>181845159

King is the most fun to play because you can play him so many ways

King is the most fun to watch because wrasslin' moves are showy as hell

>>181846235
i've tried to claw out RDC and i just feel like whenever i get it i can't tell where exactly the input is so i've just been using this guide http://gameplay.tips/guides/654-tekken-7.html

at some point i'm just going to buy a stick and learn king because i think he's legit the most fun character in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w22c7J868pE

JDCR was right..

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So does this mean my bane costume on gigas will be ruined? Is the patch on PC yet? I'm afraid to check.

>>181845553

Same, I hate movement tech and it looks retarded

Honestly I just wish this game was Soul Calibur

>>181846359
this.

King is good enough in this game that a new Tekken player can pick him up and learn how to play the game on him without too much trouble.

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>>181845994

>>181846206
Lotta projecting by your side and nope literally not me.

>>181846441
Hell yeah anon. I agree completely. Get that pad and fuck some people up. Very fucking fun to play, especially as a casual wrestling fan.
>tombstone piledriver does massive damage
Muh dick.

>>181846441
i wish i could tell you don't learn RDC because good players can just tech out of it, but considering you're going to have a ton of shitters to go through might as well roll through em

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>>181846617
Only issue is learning the ins and outs of king, buffering throws, he's not very mash-friendly and mashing can get you killed before you can cry out to Harada. Plus with the weird way button inputs work stuff like chain grabs can be near impossible, getting 1,2 instead of 1+2 etc. Still a great character.

>>181846670
can't help but to jump to conclusions on a coincident like that, anon. It's like finding an anon who constantly puts nigger at the end of his sentence and for the last 13 posts and get told out it's from 10 different anons.

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>>181846578
>Honestly I just wish this game was Soul Calibur

>>181846723
i meant you got me. besides the fact i usually try and play grapplers or big damage hugefuck characters in fighting games, I'd pick King every time because he actually does fucking wrestling. The piledriver doing massive damage makes fucking sense here.

whenever you get the shining wizard kill and you just knee a fool in the face, it's good every time. also instant shining wizard isn't really too hard in comparison to other characters iWR.

>>181845553
KBD looks like something the devs forgot was possible in the game. It looks too fucking janky.
Why not remove the normal backdash delay completely because everyone is just doing the KBD anyway

>>181846772
The trick is to mix up your cd grabs, hitting them with the standing heel hold or the arm breaker, or even the regular cd moves. But yeah, I've watched enough pros break out of arm breaker to be scared to try it. But thats the trick with ol king, you gotta mix up your grabs or youll be done for.

>>181846965
>Not using nigger as a period
Get a load of this nigger

>>181846912
Yeah the weird button inputs can be fucking stupid. I have to button buffer them and even then sometimes I'm fucked.

What's throw buffering, though? is it just button buffering the chaingrabs or something else?

>>181847067
Shining wizard is so fucking fun. And shining torpedo is cool as shit. Not to mention the air grabs, literally grabbing players in the middle of their air grabs is wayyy too much fun.

>>181847161
Just like a real wrestler. King is the shit.

>>181847309
The button are inputs are because some characters have moves that require you to do X then Y but very fast, you could press both at the same time and end up fucking your attack.
Aris (AvoidingThePuddle) has a great vid explaining throw buffering, but you can basically buffer a throw in during the recovery of your hit, so when its done, a grab comes out near instantly. Stuff like full crouch 2 into Great Swing is too much fun. Very unexpected.

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>>181847146
But Anon what about the JOOYYY~~~~ of discovery?

How do Kazumi and Alisa compare? From the character overview, I get that the former does more offensive poking, whereas the latter is more defensive, but that doesn't tell me much.

>>181847146
probably because koreans and autists would cry that they spent decades learning to do it. It's the only thing that annoys me in tekken because the entire game becomes revolved around it.

>>181847510
holy shit i have to go look into this.

>>181845262

>accurate King is probably the most stylish out of the top tiers, both to watch and play.

I have my doubts that King is top tier in the console version.

>all these wacky costumes
>No option to dress yourself using cloths from previous games

They're saving this for use in DLC, aren't they?

>>181846532
Well, I can confirm one thing, the patch is on PC.

>>181847335
i have yet to land an airgrab in an online fight. i can't wait until i do.

>>181847718
the answer is always yes

>>181847718
All characters have at least one/two legacy costumes tho

>>181847335

>When they thought they'd hop your throw but get spinning powerbombed

>>181847146
Honestly it's probably because they would have to limit it if it was too easy to do. It's the same idea with stuff like Bryan's taunt jet upper. It would just be too good if it was easy.