/stsg/ - Starsector General

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>>181822010
>already has PD
>puts more vulcans
>doesn't even put vulcans in the rear

That build is all kinds of retard.

Can you get hardened shield and heavy armor without getting the skills?

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>>181824842
meant to post with attached

>>181824842
Yes

>>181822338
Indeed it is if you're going to run less than max PD at least try and spread them out abit.

>>181822338
>>181827472
>anons in charge of /fit/s

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test post

>>181832063
>frig wings
The madman.

>>181832108

it mostly works, but i got a crash pretty quickly. plus they have collsion so every time you launch one it's all CLANG CLANG CLANG

if you just clone the .ship and retag it as a fighter it'd probably work flawlessly though

>>181832108
>inb4 tempest wings
>inb4 Wolf wings with converted hangars and Talons

>>181832316
>not putting Moras in your Moras in your Moras

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>>181822338
>not wanting the extra 500 frontal frag DPS per vulcan
it's like you don't know how to knife fight or something.

>>181822338
tbf those semi-rear turrets have much wider angles than the rear turrets.

>>181836621
yeah but the rear facing ones will be most effective at stopping salamanders, which is really your biggest worry with a SO dominator

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This is the ideal Dominator fit. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

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>watching AI piloted Onslaught tanking needlers with shield
LOWER YOUR SHIELDS FGT OH MY GOD

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daily reminder to wreck your ship

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>>181838653
>tfw only two d-mods

>>181839117
>at least five BCs
have fun being able to field only two of them at a time

>>181839117
Are those mirroed odysseys new? Never seen them

>>181839117
>fulgent
NOT ETHICAL

>400k assassination bounty
>right next to world owned by faction
>before engaging, suddenly three fleets sortie the planet
>e-burn out of there
>picket catches you
do you ever ragequit anon?

>>181840495
>e-burning
>not just slightly altering your sustained burn vector and making it out of there twice as fast
>not savescumming before entering any system

it's like you wanted an excuse to quit

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>>181839625

i suppose. i made them the other week, look for unitinu.

they're pretty dumb.

>>181839720
>not ethical
>but this is

>>181840761
Does that thing's turret arcs allow you to shoot 4 large energy weapons behind you?

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>Wanted to have the markets have more weapons because equipping a lategame fleet is a nightmare
>Go to dynasector
>Edit DS_SubmarketUtils.addWeaponsBasedOnMarketSize and addWeaponsBasedOnMarketSize lines in DS_OpenMarketPlugin.java just to test it before changing the others too
>Doesn't work
>Edit addRandomWeapons on the same file too
>Doesn't work
>Edit addWeaponsForRolePicks line in DS_SubmarketUtils.java, at this point no idea what I'm doing
>Zero difference

I might be ready to strike it out on my own.

What do you guys like to have under your belt before you form your own faction?

>>181841242

nah they're side mounts so you have to broadside it

it's still pretty damn strong, i ended up bumping its deploy points to 50

>>181841702

a wolf and a kite

>>181841350

you are forcing a market update before looking again, right?

>>181841702
a good couple of carriers and enough money to buy defense fleets for the market you are about to invade.

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>>181841915
All those ships in storage, and we can't make our own fleets.

I guess Alex would say it's too much RTS.

>>181841875
I start a new game every time I make a modification

>NGO is being updated
W-what?

Command & Control worth taking?

>>181842960
neat

>>181843606
Just mod more CPs. The +5% to ECM and nav cap would require you to actually get more than 15% in the first place, which is overkill vs those you reach it and useless vs the ones you're not gonna reach anyways like endgame bounties unless you slap ECM on every ship you have.

LET ME FUCKING POST YOU GOOK PIECE OF SHIT

>>181845152
Range is dumb, it should effect accuracy of your weapons instead

>>181845758

the whole mechanic is dumb and unsatisfying and just the result of alex going PLAY IT MY WAY REEEE.

>>181842960
Fucking thinly veiled Neo Nazi bullshit that uses recolored sprites from Baby's First RTS

Alright, I can at least somewhat see a justification of why an energy weapon would have a maximum range. Beam cohesion, the projectile spreading, something like that. It's a little odd maybe, but it at least can make sense.

But why the FUCK do actual kinetic projectiles have a maximum range? There's no resistance in space, or the resistance is so small as to be negligible. Sure, your shot might have some inaccuracy at long range due to spread, but the bullet wouldn't just magically fucking stop.

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>>181842960
That's a surprise with the shit he gets for making it. They're fun to fight and use so I don't mind this at all. Still wishful thinking for the mod author to make his own OC ships and move on from borrowed with permission sprites.

>>181846443
Stop being such a baby about Nazi shit.

>>181846443
oy vey

>>181846558
Because its a video game

>>181846558
Besides the fact that it prevents lag and balances weapons, I would say that max range represents the highest chances of the projectile hitting something

>>181846443
Sounds cool, link?

Where are the screenshots saved?

>>181846558
Imagine that they're going out of plane.

>>181848239

in the screenshots folder, believe it or not

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Rate please

>>181846558
Starsector is a thinly veiled naval warfare game.

>>181848454
>no impact mitigation
No low tech no glory

>>181848454
3 helmsmanship and 2 damage control are the most important things

>>181848454
>Anything in the first half of the combat tree
Oh dear.

>>181848927
theres a couple one pointers there

>>181846443
>getting this worked up about a mod
>>181847981
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=9402.0

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>>181848927
>knocking on Missile Specialization

>>181848454
>not even a single point in industrial

>>181848927
>not wanting +50% maneuv, +50% accel, +10% speed
gotta go fast

>>181849187
>>knocking on Misuzu Specialization

y'all dudes ready to see some fucken TOURNAMENT
YEAH

>>181849565

inb4 he starts at the wrong time

>>181846443
NGO isn't bad because of that, it's bad because it's bland and lazy.

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>watching my strife wanzer eat some poor frigate alive
jesus christ, these things are nuts

>LETS MAKE REALLY THIN SHIPS
>AND THEIR DOWNSIDE WILL BE THE THIN SHIELD ARC
>AND THEY WILL FOCUSED ON BROADSIDES
>WITH 20 FUCKING MEDIUM ENERGY SLOTS

>NGO
>Strengths
-high amount of universal/hybrid weapon mounts
>weaknesses
-lower than usual cargo/crew space

seems balanced

So, when you make an own faction in Nex,

Do you get to pick which kind of ships it uses?

>>181850259
>high amount of universal/hybrid weapon mounts
ICan'tBelieveIt'sNotDiable.jpg

>>181850259
I played with them in 0.7.2 and I don't remember them being too powerful

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>>181850259
-high amount of universal/hybrid weapon mounts
-less weapon mounts in general

>>181850410

no / only with file editing

>>181850259
They're utter shite as NPCs, though. I remember cutting through them like butter. No brakes on that pain train.

>>181851018
most ships have way too many weapon mounts anyways

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>energy weapons are supposed to lack HE damage to keep high-tech ships from completely dominating other ships with combined HE/EMP damage
>mod adds nothing but high-tech ships and a huge swath of high burst HE damage energy weapons
Name the mod!
inb4 every single one of them

>>181851018
Never played the mod myself, but fewer mounts is hardly a price to pay for having universal/hybrid mounts.

>>181852280
every single one of them

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>>181852280

i am guilty of this

lookit all dat powercreep

>>181852683
and charge based so they can frontload ass tons of damage for zero flux cost too

Nice balanced

Why not make a medium missile weapon thats a superior sabot with recharge

>>181852280
Implying the HIL doesn't exist.

>>181852280
>the HIL exists
>still made this dumb post

>>181853185

it does, but it's also the only HE energy weapon and requires a large mount

but at the same time an AM blaster will make a big hole in just about anything

>>181853185
It's *one* HE weapon out of the entire vanilla energy arsenal. And look at how popular HIL is.

>>181853430
AM blaster, Heavy Blaster, Plasma cannon, Tachyon Lance, Phase lances... Half of all Energy weapons will punch through heavy armor fairly quickly.

>>181852280
>energy weapons are supposed to lack HE damage
are they? generally energy weapons are balanced performance against shields and armor but some are specialized.
>implying all or even most energy weapons have EMP damage

>wow its broken that "high tech" ships (gay abstraction, you mean ships with only energy slots? if you wanna whine, point out all the mod high-mobility ships that can mount ballistics) can get HE with mods! after all HE is the best damage type, unlike energy, it's not like energy weapons have tons of handicaps to make up for having the best damage type. Furthermore missiles don't exist,

Wanna get this. What's the most aesthetic ship?

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>>181853037

it's just obscene i tell you

>>181848454
>no impact mitigation
okay, he must be going high tech
>no defensive systems 2

>>181853740
Missiles provide unreliable source of HE damage to high-tech ships, as intended.

>"high tech" is a gay abstraction!
>energy is the best damage type!
Don't you have somewhere else to spout dumb opinions, like the official forums?

>>181854303
i'm sorry you're too retarded to understand how this game works, i guess!

>>181854465

i realize it's your daily trolling round, but it might be time to take a break dude

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How are these skills for Neutrino Corp start?

Installed almost all the updated mods with Nex support, and I have no idea what I can expect.

>>181853680
>>implying all or even most energy weapons have EMP damage
Energy is the only slot with dedicated, purpose-built EMP damage weapons.

High tech ships scooting around flinging HE damage out of their medium energy slots should be reserved only for ships purposely designed to operate that way, or capital ships. There's a good fucking reason why HIL is a beam weapon and requires a large slot to mount.

>>181854630
Forgot to mention, I'm looking to recover and salvage everything I can.

I have some sort of hoarder complex.

>>181854757
Is this the latest weird autistic thing /stsg/ is going to crusade against?

>>181854757
>Energy is the only slot with dedicated, purpose-built EMP damage weapons.
yeah, so? you're acting as if mid-tech ships that can mount both ballistic and energy weapons don't exist. and as the other anon mentioned, plenty of energy weapons are efficient against armor despite being energy damage.

>>181848723
>2 damage control
>important

>>181854903
no, it's just an extension of the autistic crusade against "overpowered" faction mods. weapon dealing inappropriate damage type for its category is what mainly makes these mods seem overpowered.

>it's a ballstic weapon that *can* deal frag damage if armor is gone and also has some emp damage on the side because HVD's emp damage wasn't cheesy enough!
>it's a PLASMA torpedo! of course it should deal energy damage and some kinetic on impact!

etc etc

You faggots don't know the meaning of a diverse weapon selection.

>>181854630
Personally, I like maxing out the logistics skill in Leadership and the sustained burn skill in Tech before going into combat. There's no right answer though, just b urself.

>>181855821

you can't have a puzzle when every piece fits every slot

>>181855193
>you're acting as if mid-tech ships that can mount both ballistic and energy weapons don't exist
You fucking dense cunt. The problem is that these weapons are giving high-tech ships way too many damage options without any downsides.

Take Aurora for example. How fucking retarded would it be if it could mount some HE weapons on its medium slots instead of heavy blasters? That's what many of these mods are doing. On top of that, they *think* HE damage specialization for energy is some kind of handicap and give these weapons outrageous flux/damage efficiency AND high per-shot damage to boot.

>plenty of energy weapons are efficient against armor despite being energy damage
Ergo, ENERGY DOES NOT NEED MORE HIGH EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE. Get it through your terminally thick skull.

>>181855976
>Take Aurora for example. How fucking retarded would it be if it could mount some HE weapons on its medium slots instead of heavy blasters?

actually not that retarded, as we've all noticed after trying it

inb4 no u

>>181855976
Calm down Alex, they're just mods.

>>181856307

alex is a chill dude. this dude is not a chill dude.

>>181855821
>You faggots don't know the meaning of a diverse weapon selection.
>"i don't know why different weapon types exist so i'll just cram every possible damage type into a weapon type that i like the most"

weapon diversity should come with the ship, not with weapon choices.

energy slot specialized ships shouldn't expect to deal HE/kinetic without giving something up, ballistic slot specialized ships shouldn't expect to deal energy without giving something up, etc etc

>>181855976
you are completely retarded if you think you can make a MEANINGFULLY more broken aurora fit with mod HE shit that is somehow MEANINGFULLY more silly than the standard minmaxer aurora that uses vanilla shit and reapers for HE

ps fuck you and your dumb opinions

>>181856179
>he thinks sabots in the small slots and 3x HE energy medium guns won't make aurora overpowered
ah, i see that you're a man of zero intelligence as well

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>>181855821
I wonder if this guy sperging out about mod energy weapons ever saw appro-light's anti-armor doomsday beam
>>181855976
wow, you're getting pretty worked up.
>The problem is that these weapons are giving high-tech ships way too many damage options without any downsides.
they already had these damage options to begin with, take the ion pulser for example. vanilla weapon with a ton of burst damage and EMP, great against both shields and armor.
>How fucking retarded would it be if it could mount some HE weapons on its medium slots instead of heavy blasters?
wouldn't make much of a difference, the medium slot vanilla energy weapon roster is filled with great weapons.

the only downside to the vanilla energy weapon roster is flux efficiency, and even then weapons like the ion pulser don't even have that weakness. you fit an aurora with SO / unstable injectors / expanded mags and ion pulsers, and you have a rape machine screaming across the battlefield, all with vanilla components. furthermore, if mods add things that you don't want to play with, just don't use them.

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it would be nice to have this discussion without all the tedious insults, because it's an interesting topic and the lines are not obvious, or even objective

but instead we get this guy

>being a HEfaggot or Energyfag when you can be a Fraggot

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>>181857027
>not being kinoetic master race

Tournament in 1h. I forecast less unilateral wipes this time around.

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>>181857270

>>181857556
NERF SABOTS

>>181857301
is there going to be a stream?

>>181857826

agreed but unironically

>>181857301
>in 1h

fallenshogun pls

>>181858135
>fallenshogun

I'm very new to this game, but the first tournament of that guy I watched.
He was hyping everything, not explaining why the fits/strategy of each ship/fleet, remarking the obvious and generally doing very redundant and simple comments.

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what is your ideal fit, /stsg/?

>>181858403
yep, nemo is better

he's not a super expert at how things work but at least he attempts to infer cause and effect and comment on outfits and strategies

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>>181858449

Is there any ship that allows me to mount enough Hailfire Chainguns on it to just overwhelm shields and armor?

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>inb4 brainlets don't understand why ICU is useful here

>>181859776

those are the med ballistic double vulcans, right? try an enforcer

>>181860224

vulcans in the side mounts imo, at least one will be firing

>>181857270
guass cannons have terrible flux/damage efficiency

>>181862528

yeah but if you want to crack armor with a kinetic weapon you're gonna need one

so is this game worth it?

Is there a TL:DR especially considering what mods can do?

>>181862598
uh no
armor doesn't regenerate, you take as long as you need
Or let your various filler 2 OP torpedo slots do the job

>>181862791
>Or let your various filler 2 OP torpedo slots do the job

no one is this retarded

>>181862769
>so is this game worth it?
yeah, really nothing else like it. it's a sandbox game where you control a fleet to do missions / bounties / exploration and other stuff, great combat. large modding community despite the game being unfinished. I'd say the game is far off from being finished (a year or two at least) because the dev team is really small, but it's got enough going for it to be worth it.

>>181863060
?
You leave your small missile slots empty rather than putting torpedos in them?

>>181862769
Game is nice for one developer working on it. Mods add more flavor in the form of adding factions, having the ability to make your own, expand. Primarily combat as of now, but maybe Soon™, maybe there will be colonization and more/better trade

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>>181858449
>tfw /fitlit/

>>181864260
that doesn't have any right to look as good as it does

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>>181863060
Are you sure....? He seems genuine

>>181864678

i tried to make a quick and dirty skin but it's pretty pale already so getting a good color range selection was a bitch

anyway i guess that's why it works ok

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should've given it a bigger gen, 750 base just ain't enough to add in blasters on top of the plasma

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This thing is so good! I only need 2 million to restore the East and West portions and its gonna be even better!

I will probably strap devastators on every available mount too since the ammo accel lets them shred anything.

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get in faggot, we're invading sindria

>>181865354
add unstable photon cannon instead
from neutrino :))

>>181865554
>Sindria
These fucking bitches have been invading half my planets while I'm away exploring.

The Tournament is on on FallenShogun's twitch and youtube channels

>>181865809

i was starting to think that he was gonna start an hour late this time

>>181865885
he actually did because of some hardware failure...

>>181866335
>hardware failure

whatever you say dude

>>181865809
wow that guy is obnoxious

>>181866335
his dog ate his graphics card?

>>181866750

*lan cable

geez that aurora is smacking everything.

>>181867580

it's a good ship

i'm not at all sold on those SCY fits

flux is everything
SO doubles your flux

It should be basically a mandatory fit on all destroyers/cruisers

>>181859143
>he's not a super expert at how things work
Fucking understatement of the year right there mate.
He has what? Four or five different series of Starsector and STILL fucks up on flux management, fitting and tactics.

I have less hour under my belt than him and probably it will always be the case but holy fucking shit i'm sure that if a 1v1 multiplayer mod gets made i'll wipe the floor with him every single time and use the remains for cleaning the windows too.

What is ITU?

>>181867964

the range hullmod

>>181867964
Integrated targeting unit a hull mod

>>181867964
In The Uterus
it's where you cum

that apogee is doing a surprisingly good job at flanking

HIL is a really good gun

but at the same time, couldn't you get a sunder for more or less the same effect?

Bloody hell I feel like I could do better with derelicts than these scy ships.

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>>181858449

>>181867964
a superior dedicated targeting core that costs the same

>>181868282

SCY confirmed for balanced, sorry.

i don't get this SHY fleet. it's complete paper.

i understand what the venture is trying to do, but i still think the gravbeam is dumb as hell

>>181868720
I swear they exist just to soak up fire.

>devastators and hvels on the same ship
>several duallightmgs

you gotta be squidding me

This retard dom

that pandora array seems pretty AI-abusive, hitting before the AI can get shields up.

these fucking fits lol

>invest all your money into a terribly-fit brick dominator
>have no offense
>lose

what was the plan even. lashers are not relevant at this battle size.

>>181869174
Thats how sabots work but in reverse.

>>181869571
lashers are ok but like
I think you need safety overrides

that hound lived a surprisingly long time

>elysium is open
>dom can't take advantage since it stays in HVD range

>>181869842
I have a LP one with a makeshift shield and survives every match some how even against some pretty brutal enemies.

This guy has literally lost because of the dom.

>>181870064
>This guy has literally lost because of the dom.

swap a single dev for a hellbore and it'd make a world of difference. just a single gun swap.

TRIPLE KILL

>>181870316
also safety overrides

>>181870316
It was one of those fits that needed a human pilot to actually work.

inb4 wanzer rape

i know that this guy has thought a whole bunch about how to counter wanzers. it's not gonna work.

can I get to a link to all this excitement?

>>181870481
Brawlers might save the day again.

>>181870460

SO doms own, but it's not necessary for a sniper fit like 2xhvel + hellbore

>>181870615
salamanders kinda suck dick too
They eat a lot of OP

>gently caress
Oh lawd the guy is a SA-goer

lmao he's gonna try to harp the wanzers to death

wanzers reinforce 4x as fast the first three times. and they have loads of PD and HP.

>>181870583

twitch fallenshogun

All the Storm needs to do is not fucking suicide itself and the Ravens can kill the entire enemy fleet by themselves. Seems like that's usually a lot to ask though.

>>181870713

like half the entrants are, dude. the DA fleet is a goon too.

hell this thread has plenty of goons too for that matter.

>people still unironically go to SA
>2017

>>181870838
Fucking called it

>>181871045
That was a lot of harpoons.

what the fuck is this DA fleet doing. it's like it's trying to get itself killed.

>>181871187
36 harpoons are a fearsome opponent

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I manage to salvage 2 battle cruisers one of them elite version. Just by hanging around a fight. And I barely started this campaign.

I don't know if mods with Nex is OP or not.
I know even less what the fuck I'm doing with them.

>>181871285

how are harps real just put your shield up dude like just tank that shit

>>181871356
How are shields real of our eyes arent real?

now call me silly but the two first strats i'd check my fleet's viability against in this contest are sabotspam and harpspam

>>181871187
Both the Storm and the Fractus are classified as Combat Carriers. That means they will try to face plant themselves into the entire enemy fleet at every opportunity.

>>181870997
the Games subforum, and the Let's Play one are relatively on-topic, not much of the "die cis scum" crowd there

>>181871340
elite doesn't mean anything
thats just the name of the pre-made loadout

Yea I think salvaging big ships should require more of an investment

>>181871707
>elite doesn't mean anything
>thats just the name of the pre-made loadout

well it does mean that it's probably a pretty high-powered loadout

like, compare a Elite Enforcer (hvels, mauler, harpoons) to an Outdated one (three thumpers, annihilator racks)

just something to keep in mind when looking at an enemy fleet though

>>181871683

the sjws have mostly been kicked out, after a pogrom on bad mods

Man.

1x game speed is so slow. I'm glad that one anon showed me the secret to speeding the combat up. Much more rewarding.

Should have used more kinetic bombers

>>181872330
>1x

what luxury. try 0.5 with random stutter

why the hell is that aurora using two pulse lasers?

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>>181872456

I'll say this pre-battle
RIP Neutrino, may you be OP and CTD the afterlife

>Haze cruisers
When will this meme die? They're awful

>>181873702

oh right, there was one good DA fleet and one dumb one

the SRAB strobing is very tiring to look at

The PD systems on the DA ships seems pretty OP.

that was really close to coming down to peak time

>>181874686

they're basically a heavy burst for 9 OP in a small slot

the frigs are in malfunction range, they're gonna stop being aggressive soon

and after that crit malf kicks in and they're worthless

>>181874868
Yay for balance

did the frigates have hardened, or does the maul just have really shit peak time for its size?

Just bought my first unit with siege mode (a neut cruiser) from prism freeport.

what am I in for?

>>181875271
which cruiser is it? I haven't used neutrino ships in a while

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>converted hangar with Diable wanzers
For what purpose, all that OP wasted

>>181873702

they didn't exactly get curbstomped

Haven't seen a decent fit for a Maul yet

>eagle
>light needler

???

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>>181875343
4x Large energy mount (3x turret, 1x fixed, unremovable siege fusor)
3x small energy turret

>>181876810
>fit 3 autopulse lasers and put them on alternate
>watch the laser light show

ION STRONK

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Jesus Christ.

>heavily armored cruiser
>death by swarmer

kek

sabots confirmed to be just as broken as ions

>>181877370
>a cascading error in a deteriorating logistics system
AI did it?

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>>181877594

ai dindu nuffin, is a good system

god i love khopeshes

VANILLA WINS EVERY FIGHT WTF

VANILLA NEEDS NERF

>but they are linked to their guns
Does this means there is some secret to make the AI use it's missiles or something?

>>181877906

there have been some real bad fits for the mod fleets

>>181877976

there's a whole lot of tricks for getting a loadout to work how you want it

>>181878062
>>there's a whole lot of tricks for getting a loadout to work how you want it
Explain

Also, Legion IBB carrier fitted with Moras in lieu of fighter and those Moras have Drovers in lieu of fighters and those Drovers have that one frigate-sized carrier from Arsenal Expansion when?

man that blackrock fleet got savaged, it had zero answers to a SO push

>BRDY vent quickly? let's not give them a chance to vent

good counterplay actually

Storm needler is pretty good

>DME

it's time

>>181878842

meh

it certainly forces shields down though, i'll give it that

>>181871683
they're still fucking bad at video games and oblivious to it.
daily reminder that they're the kind of terribads that recommend people to put HACs instead of flaks in the back of onslaughts because it has better range and "chases away frigates."

lol at those heatseeker shuttles

>>181879063
Who? Nemo and Shogun or the SA guys?

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I already have two onslaughts

Kindof want this third carrier variation. But the victory looks pretty good too.

I'll be switching factions soon (probably to tri-jews), so this might be my last chance. Which do you suggest?

>>181879383
>1024x768

wat

>>181879383
All of them

>>181879383
I suggest you get a monitor designed for non ants

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>>181879383
carrier variation details

>>181879383
carrier onslaught is good
The 3 large weapons can actually hit the same target
free fighter wing

Costs 50 deployment though which might not be worth it
Legion is a carrier so it plays like a pussy, which isn't nice

>>181879713
Put a aggressive officer in it and watch how it uses the fighters to rush in and facefuck with reapers

DME buffs incoming

What to do with the AIs cores and survey data? just sell it? Guess I will hoard em

>>181880492
>AI cores

give them to someone you want to have like you

>survey data

just sell it

NO
NO!
THIS SHOULDN'T BE IT MUST HAVE BEEN A FLUKE DME COULDN'T POSSIBLY LOSE AGAINST VANILLA IT WOULD MEAN IT'S BALANCED IT CANNOT BE IT CANNOT BE IT CAN'T IT CAN'T IT CANT IT CANT IT CANT ITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANTITCANT

>>181848483
Now that this is in my mind are there even any naval RPGs in the same vein as Mount n Blade and Starsector?

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>>181880492
Turn them into your wAIfus

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>>181880708

reminder that all AI cores have bomb collars because they hate humans

>>181880887
>clang found us
/egg/ get out pls

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>>181880492
Well there you go see
>>181880887
You must save the waifus and liberate them

>>181880492

those things are dangerous. give them to the ludds so they can't hurt anyone again.

DME cruiser confirmed for not as good as two Auroras

maybe he should've brought a second ship

>>181881551
Nah, he got sabot spam'd. It was looking decent until that happened

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>>181880630
t. soren

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Thats a light cruiser from DME against 2 heavy cruisers from overpowered vanilla

Obviously the light cruiser without SO is going to lose

lol sabots

that's 4*3 on the front of the auroras, right?

>>181881712
>>181880630
YESYESMUSTBECHEESEMISSILE AGAINSTTHEY HOLDINGBACK

>>181881950

did he spend all his money on those pointless corvettes?

>turns out the "OP" mods are balanced
That balance obsessed anon is on suicide watch now.

>>181882070
are you ok anon?

>>181882432
Nope the mod factions just had bad loadouts/ship picks :&))))

>>181882791
;&)

>>181882698
NOTOKNOTOKNOTOKNOTOKNOTOKDMEOPDMEOPITWASAFLUKECANTBECANTBECANTBECANTBE!

>>181879806
>>181879713
vote seems to be for carrier variation of onslaught.

It is pretty bad ass no lies

Version 2 of the /stsg/ Modpack coming soon. Huge buffs to Derelict ships.

>~Version 2 (July 6, 2017):
>Added Changelog
>Updated ReadMe
>Updated pre-existing mods
>Added "STSG Customization Files & >Instructions" folder
>Added Infinite Space Portrait Pack
>Added LOGH Portrait Pack
>Added Loli/"Pedo" Portrait Pack
>Added Power Dolls 1 Portrait Pack
>Added Power Dolls 2 Portrait Pack
>Buffed vanilla/mod Derelict ships
>Modified "Useable [REDACTED]" files, vanilla changed are only enabled if user enables this mod
>All Vanilla Derelict ships are boardable when "Useable [REDACTED]" mod is enable
>All Vanilla Derelict ships have "Heavy Armor", "Front Shield Generator"
>Vanilla Derelict ships "Warden" and "Rampart" have "Integrated Targeting Unit" built-in modification
>Vanilla Derelict ship "Sentry" has "Expanded Missile Racks" built-in modification
>Ship/Weapons Pack "Wall" is boardable and added "Heavy Armor" built-in modification
>Arsenal Expansion "Merlon" is boardable and added "Heavy Armor", "Makeshift Shield Generator", and "Expanded Missile Racks" built-in modifications

>>181883518

fuck off

>tfw game takes about 3 minutes to load and lags in the main menu

What should i buy to solve the problem? Keep in mind i'm a poorfag so i might not be able to buy top-of-the-line stuff

CPU Intel i5 750 2.67GHz
RAM 6,00 GB Dual channel DDR3 664Mhz (9-9-9-24, dunno what this is but it's on Speccy)
Graffix ASUS VW221 (1680X1050 60hZ) + 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 550 (Dell)

Any suggestion on some parts to pick that don't cost too much? I think i'm going to buy them at a Electronic Fair since the prices tend to be not too high there.

>>181884081
>how do I play gaem better
>cuisineart Xtra toasty 550 (Dell)

>>181884250
I'm not good at conputer (and due to not having a proper source of income, there is only so much i can buy)
Also, to speed up the load times what should i do? Buy more RAM or get a faster one? I assume the 664MHz is the read-write speed but i'm not sure

>>181884081
download more ram

>>181884081
is that an integrated gfx ?
Because otherwise its way better than my PC and I play more or less fine(laggy all the time though)

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>>181879468
>>181879571
I'm on a laptop.

>>181884081
That CPU is almost ten years old. It was out of spec when the game was first being developed.

>>181885060
I play this game on a q6600
His PC is better than mine

>>181885060
>I'm on a laptop.

mroe like craptop

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>>181885259
I bet your CPU is less than eight years old

>>181880887
>>181881181
kek, im keeping them, its going to be a space harem

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>>181885493
might be 9

>>181885493
>Q6600
>Q1'07
>fucking 65 nm

man time flies

>>181885259
How is your mobo still alive?
Or is my case just gigabytes "ultra durable" meme?

>>181885981
I replaced it at least once
But I think that was just because I bricked my mobo trying to update the bios

asus board durable board

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>>181885524
>starsector the hentai game
>play as intrepid captain (with devoted but useless female sidekick)
>conquer the sector and bang all the beautiful women
>recruit admirals, seduce the female ones to fight by your side with your dick
>capture each planet's AI core to build your harem
>colorful personalities, plot twists, rich lore, and the privilege of the conqueror
>unravel mysteries which shake the very foundations of the universe, fight foes technological and mystical
>and it all started that one night you got drunk with a Hedgemony admiral

>>181886430
keked thatd be cool

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>>181885524
Good boy ;&)
Don't let the Hegemony get us

>>181886704
you are nothing but a trophy bby

>>181886430
Want

http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=9402.210

Is this actually somewhat balanced, or is it right into the trash?

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>>181881040
>clang found us

Clang's been here, man.

>>181888280
the least balanced ships are vanilla
noone has made anything as broken as sabots yet

>>181888280
I haven't played with the mod since 0.7.2a but overall that mod is pretty tame, nothing super powerful. pretty much in-line with vanilla

how to remove level cap limit?

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>use unethical console commands to see what a Wall Class Drone is like
>three individual sections
>West wall and East Wall sections are completely automated
>venting is per section so other sections can still fire and keep shields up
>can keep fighting even if both sides gets blown off
>no crew
>a single Aux thruster on one section can affect the entire ship

This thing makes SO Domnators look like little shits. Still needs Makeshift Shield Generators though, and everything except the center two Med Turrets, side small turrets, and Large Ballistics are fixed hardpoints that cant hit shit if an enemy i too small or close.

>>181890303
starsectorcore
data
config
settings,json

>>181890986
might have to try that useable redacted mod. you had to go in ships.csv of the modded drone ships to change them too right?

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>>181883518
/stsg/ Modpack Version 2 released, read previous post for more details

>>181891681
Forgot link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/i9fiavodotp7pbt/Starsector+General+Mod+Pack+Version+2.7z
>>181890986
wall with shield generator is weird since only one of the three modules gets the shield

>>181890986
what happens when one side blows up?

>>181891539
I didnt edit anything, I magic'd it into my fleet using console commands.

Also I dont think the Useable Redacted mod lets you salvage it, that mod only gives you vanilla ships.

>>181891681
>>181883518
>>Ship/Weapons Pack "Wall" is boardable and added "Heavy Armor" built-in modification
>built in heavy armor

For what fucking purpose, this things is impossibly slow when it comes to turning which you need to do ALL THE TIME seeing as how nearly all the med and small mounts are hard points.

>>181891874
I read the ship file, but it does not contain the "receives no blast damage" trait. Meaning that if one module explodes, it will deal damage to other modules. However, even if destroyed, the side modules will be restored after repairs.
>>181892210
Thanks for the feedback. It is named the "Wall", but I will keep that in mind. Perhaps giving it aux thrusters or no heavy armor at all. The ship data had compromised armor as a built in modification, so I thought Id change that. If you go to SWP>data>hulls>wall, you can remove the mod yourself

>>181892210
>>181892520
>>181891842

>Makeshift Shield only affects on section

Lol, be thankful it does. Because the two sides sections act like AI controlled ships, they have that godlike split second Flux management.

One a side note it also makes sense because TECHNICALLY it is three ships glued together, if you select the sides sections and run a simulation its actually an individual ship which make me kek.

>compromised armor

The Wall also haves the most bullshittingly high cost to restore when I console command'd it. You have to restore each section, and each section costs like 1 mil when I did it.

>aux thrusters/no heavy armor

Maybe or may not be a good idea. This thing handles like a massive Dominator. And I THINK the three sections are SO capable.

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>>181886430
GET ON IT MODDERS

>>181894163
first we need "frigate" fighters added to all cruisers and capitals

>>181894569

no one but you gives a shit about that, and you can't care that terribly much either since it's really not hard to do.

>>181895037
>it's really not hard to do
lol, how fucking dense of a sad fuck are you?

>>181895037
how to make them ?? ~___~

>>181895037
>people like this post in teh same thread as you

>>181822010
>frag PD when LMGs/HMGs exist
Gross.

How come hearthstone still doesn't have a way ot pause the game or turn back the clock on the game

>>181898790
>someone else browsing /stsg/ and /hsg/

You got confused with the two threads, didn't you?

>>181898994
No I deliberately posted here

>>181899156
>i wasn't pretending to be retarded
>i actually am!
>hohoho, i've got you now /stsg/

ded fking thred

>>181907749
dead AND gay

How often do you actually finish a game in Nex? Over half a dozen playthroughs and I always get bored before taking over the sector.

>>181848454
>>181854007
It almost looks like the full SO glass cannon build I went with on my first game

fact: being tanky is more important than having damage
fact: 3 or 4 weapon slots are enough to use all the extra flux a ship can produce
fact: Hardened shields is the most powerful race in the world

>>181890303
Download console command
/addskillpoints x

Try not to die, fucks.

>Oooo
>OoooOOOoo

I bet this is what shogun sounds like when he fucks his wife as well

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I think I'm almost at the point where I need two hands to count how many Storms I've lost in this Diable save.

>>181918740
trying

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For anyone interested in doing a derelict fleet here's my current evaluation of the ships (mods included)

Wall Class(SWP)
>Absolutely brilliant make sure to pick one up
>will cost you around 2.5 million to fully restore all the sections

Rampart Class
>Very good get one
>works best with 2 large ballistic, 1 large missile and 1 medium missile preferably LRM
>Needs an escort or it can get flanked easily

Berserker
>not very good, avoid unless you are desperate
>it has too many slots and not enough flux this also means it cant mount a shield

Bastillon
>Not very good, avoid
>Can work with sledge guns from Interstellar Imperium
>Can work as a mine layer with standard bomb bays

Warden
>Good, get some
>Very useful with long range weapons like hyper velocity drivers and heavy maulers
>Treat it like a fast brawler chopped in half

Sentry
>Very good, get some
>basically an oversized rocket bomber
>I usually fill mine full of annihilator pods

Picket
>okay but a one trick pony
>Its good equipped with vulcans but doesn't really have the flux for much else

Defender
>not very good, only get if low on escorts
>mostly useful defending larger ships from fighters
>Struggles on its own
>can be used as a mass mine layer with bomb bays

Merlon(AE)
>not yet tested predicted to be very useful like the archer.

>>181927418
How are they for supply/mo, deployment cost and fuel burn?

Would running them with D-mods be feasible?

>>181928238
There actually pretty okay to run.

The Wall is the most expensive at 28 supply/month but it is essentially 3 ships worth of in one.

The smaller sentry and the warden can get away with degraded engines. The warden is also okay to run with compromised armour.

They aren't very expensive(expect the wall) to restore so I prefer to keep them in top condition. You can get a away with D mods but fact that you need to give them all a shield generator makes it a lot riskier due to the crappy shield stats and lost OP.

>>181842732

The problem is you need to recompile it into a jar, otherwise the changes you make won't actually occur.

Hence, eternal suffering.

So how well does playing a trader work in this game?

>>181930172
If you are doing trade missions it works well. If you are just buying and selling from markets its a lot harder.

so the readme of the /stsg/ modpack says that there is a mod configuration menu...
where?

>>181931508
Launch the game. It's right there.

>>181883518
>Huge buffs to Derelict ships.
>Huge buffs

Lets take their biggest weakness and make it worse!

Modpack should contain a settings.json mod as well

At the very least:
1.5x speed
level 93 player limit
99 command points

Is it possible in this game to make a fleet only consisting of drone carriers? Or carriers in general?

>>181895037
I do too.
But only on a IBB ship.
Legion with Mora wings with Drover wings with Pawn (the frigate carrier from Arsenal Expansion) wings with fighters and bombers.
Also, the IBB target should resemble Xzibit, for obvious reasons.

>>181933373
Yes providing you have a good mix, if you have all bombers it might not go so well.