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oldfag edition

What's new?

>Stukov confirmed; Starcraft Support
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/stukov/
https://youtu.be/KBBUVUmzxKk

>Latest In-Development video
>Stukov, Skins, Sprays, and More!
https://youtu.be/wQ4AZGwGz24

>Sun's Out, Guns Out Summer Event and Sweepstakes; Now LIVE
>New summer themed skins, mounts, and sprays
>Event ends the week of July 24th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838724/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852963/
https://youtu.be/mAolE6W_l9I
https://youtu.be/2RNtPcvCf8Q

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20877885/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888395/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20861968/
>Current PTR Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888397/

>Where can I talk to like minded individuals to discuss shitposting?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

newfag thread: >>181695874
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Classic Xul NOW, my friends.

Don't stop dreaming, or you'll never know what it feels like to be awake. Love one another.

https://youtu.be/4iuO49jbovg
https://youtu.be/G6Kspj3OO0s
https://youtu.be/BB1TKw8_b1s
https://youtu.be/zrK-IxLv-LU
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>>181818573
piss off
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post em
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>>181818665
I don't get why you keep posting this list of videos that have nothing to do with Xul or Diablo.
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>>181818573
>Alexstrasza was brought to Grim Batol, where she was forced to lay eggs.
>Alexstrasza was brought to Grim Batol, where she was forced to lay eggs.
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>>181819872
the image and videos are meant to go hand in hand kind of obvious
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is this real life?
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>>181819967
It's not obvious to me.

Please explain what Alanis Morisette has to do with Diablo 2, Xul, and/or necromancy.
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>>181819973
What a stupid person,if she wanted to be validated by her gaming friends she should meet up with them and fuck em.
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Fuck me, Thrall used to be hardcore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leHDjFg31-o
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>>181820028
I take it you weren't around when I asked the simple question:

Classic Xul when?

Every single thread for a while there. I think the message is obvious as is my love for my man. It's fine though, Classic Xul NOW, my friend. Peace and love.
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>>181820467
What does that have to do with the videos?
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>>181820521
>He doesn't know what true love feels like
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>>181808035
>strife last
Pls no. I liked that game.
>crafting all items to be entirely power based on rook
>would literally kill people in two autos and his trait would give you like four times attack speed
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>>181820868
Okay, so you're saying they're unrelated.

You should've said that from the beginning.
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>>181819973
>being bullied by literal silvers

Life in the mariachi trench must be special.
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>>181819973
She's a shitter in real life for keeping "friends" like that and going as far as trying to please them.
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>hots will never ever have monara
Defend this
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are we comfy and dead now again?
did the raging autists go back to their games?
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>>181822314
We are comfy, but at what cost?

Don't have to worry at least, the moment blizz memes out another promotion, we'll be a real /vg/ thread again, complete with everything that entails.
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>>181822314
Thank Christ. Now I can go back to struggling to think of things to say in order to bump it during office hours.
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>>181822790
>Not making up a story about how your team made you lose a game whenever you want to bump the thread
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>>181822790
much more acceptable than baiting waifu shitposting wars 2bh. That's how you get your gen turned into /feg/
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>>181822000
Monara

D: Seduce -- All of Monara's melee attacks against heroes grant her health and mana, consuming a percentage of the target's life.

Q: Sultry Blow: Monara deals damage from afar. The blow was so sultry that the enemy finds selves at a loss for words, becoming silenced for 1.25s.

W: Entice: Melee range. 'Occupies' enemy hero for 8 seconds. Damage breaks the stun.

E: 'Heal' Self, If You Know What I Mean --Regens health and mana over 8s while reliving Monara of her frustrations, granting her Unstoppable for 2s after finishing. Nearby allied heroes may assist for health and mana boosts.

R1: Double Teamed -- Monara channels an ability and stuns two melee range enemy heroes. While stunned, rapidly drains essence from both, eventually resulting in death if Monara is not interrupted.

R2: Team Building 'Exercise': Passively regenerates health of allied heroes near Monara at a rapid rate.
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>>181823479
>R2: Team Building 'Exercise': Passively regenerates health of allied heroes near Monara at a rapid rate.

Shouldn't that be attack speed or something? Lucio does this already.
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How to get blizzard giveaway prizes
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I genuinely want Velen, but I don't know fuck about his lore. I just know he's solemn, a support character and looks badass. What's his deal? I know he got killed to push another character, but HOTS is good about taking the good from the shit and ignoring the rest.

Like Jaina.
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>>181823863
Win games, check emails.
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>>181824036
Yes but did anyone at ALL get prizes yet
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>>181824184
Someone two threads ago complained that he got an email saying he won but it was just lootboxes.
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>>181824259
I see, thanks anon.
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>>181823594
Yeah, I had finished masturbating at that point and lost all my inspiration.
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>>181824747
>not having spread and group up mechanic
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>Legendary on MVP screen after win
>Get surfboard in loot box right after
Is there a better feeling?
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>>181824184
>>181824381
anon fell for bullshit.
prize winners will be announced tomorrow as can be seen in this document under 6.A.

http://media.blizzard.com/heroes/media/legal/Suns_Out_Guns_Out_HotS_Sweepstakes_Rules.pdf
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is it weird to have feelings for prime evil diabla?
she's just so damn cute!
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>>181827687
So if we have multiple tickets does that mean you can win multiple rewards?
>>181827826
Shes a slut
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>>181827960
1 entry per day
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>>181828145
So if you win a prize what happens to your other entries?
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I hope I win that Epic prize that only 50 people are going to get 250 blizzbucks is so much wow sub holy shit I'd finally be free from the runescape curse and play a real game holy fuck I need to win that
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>>181828145
Yeah, and they draw each week. So if they draw one of my seven tickets, then draw another one, do I get 10 loot boxes or just 5 and they pick someone else in my second spot?
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>>181828324
>runescape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz_hMPF0GWA
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>>181828402
yes anon that's precisely why I want to be free from the torment but sadly my money is better used in stuff like food and bus fare to get around the city since I'm a busy university student
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>181828262
No idea, the chances or winning twice in one week's drawing is low to the point it doesn't matter much, probably.
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>>181828556
Wait you seriously play it?
What happened with the whole scandal in the end?
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>>181828745
the event happened but not many people gave enough of a shit to do it (me included) or bother themselves harassing the homos that actually did it

jagex removed it after like 4 days for lack of interest
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>>181828898
Were the banned people unbanned and did you lose a noticable number of players?
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>>181828998
in total there were only 16 people banned and all of them got their accounts back
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>>181829097
Last question- what happened to the staff that bullshitted about parade in the first place?
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>>181829184
nothing as far as everyone knows
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>>181827960
Stop it! Delete this post right now!
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Bride Zagara when?
Groom Anub when!?
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>>181829413
>tfw getting bride diabla next week
haha! dumb zagfag!
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How do you get on the ptr?
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>>181829476
>not bride Tychus
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Is genji as simple as tracer? Stupid how good and easy they are to play.
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>tfw super excited about winning some shit
>tfw won't probably win anything
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>>181829728
>tracer
>easy
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>>181829771
>mfw you know people will win stuff here but you wont
How does that feel 4 u?
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>tfw really need a new rig
>only 4 among millions will get one
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where are the hot pictures of tyrande?
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>>181830563
Get a job sir
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>>181830674
shoo Illidan shoo
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>>181830563
I believe in you anon!
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>>181830757
>illidan
don't ever call me a cuck again
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>>181830728
I'm a student you supernigger
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>tfw you are stitches against chromie and hammer
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>>181831109
Children aren't allowed on the Internet.
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Thank you OP for doing us a service by not changing the OP post nor filling it with [Embed]s.
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>>181831109
>he doesnt have a stipend or a part-timer
Whats next,you pay for education?
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dreadlord soon!
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>>181829897
What is hard with her? Nothing. Nothing is a skill shot, except for her bomb.
Blink in, do some damage, blink out. If you royally fuck up, recall.

Easiest character I've tried so far.
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>>181831504
>"I've tried so far"
Ok so you're at least relatively new and playing against shitters then
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>>181831504
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>>181828324

What do you even use Blizzbucks for if they're giving you all of the games anyway?
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SHARK GREYMANE WHEEEN
>>181831504
>drops dead in a single slap
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elves are so lewd!
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>>181832309
other than subscription it have to be loot chests, hotos bundles/deals and those WoW pets they sell.
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>>181832557

I guess. I'd probably get the all the Co-Op characters for Starcraft first, then the Necromancer for D3. After that I'd still be scratching my head.
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>>181819973
>Seeking validation in games

Shitter in vidya, shitter in life.
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>>181832035
That happens to literally any character, tracer is the least likely character for that to happen on.

>>181832423
I've gotten like 10 K/D in every match I played with her... Can't say the same with other characters. Other characters don't have infinite escapes.
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>>181832783
>least likely
>Any stun and amount of coordination and she is dead
I mean you might be good, but there are characters that do what she does better without the risk
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>>181832557
Maybe buy Destiny 2? Warcraft 3 remastered?
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>>181831504
>locked and loaded
>have to keep track of all cc on the enemy team
>have to keep track of range, have to play supersafe if you aren't a tassadar shitter but still need to make plays
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>Post your last MVP
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>>181832962
>Warcraft 3 remastered?

That will probably be next year or later on this year. The 'remastering team' just finished on Brood War and it took them a year to do it and they are a small team. I cant see them releasing WC3 now though remastering WC3 will be much easier than BW depending on what engine they use.
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>>181833113
404 not found
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Mekkatorque when?
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>>181833201
His kit became what is now Falstad, so maybe never.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>181833798
need a centaur translator
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>>181823479
Thank you for this, anon.
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>>181832879
That goes for every single hero in the game.

No hero can escape a group after a cocoon.
>Stun
>Unload damage
>Dead
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>>181833072
This game has 2-6 skills or something, it doesn't take a genius to keep track of CDs. Either way, keeping track of cool downs goes for all heros.
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>>181834173
Not just cocoon for Tracer. Any stun and she melts.
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>>181834173
"Why would you need tanks? Stun and unload and they're dead"
Are you retarded or just pretending
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>>181834324
What are they gonna do? They'll die too.

Cho'Gall is the only character that MIGHT survive, but will probably just be chased down and die anyway.
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>>181834473
>Cho'Gall is the only hero that can escape CC
nigga stop
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>>181834473
>unload on one person
>killed by other 4
The thing is with Tracer is she takes just an auto attack from everyone and like 1 ability
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Whats his winrate going to be
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>>181833798
Why is Ragnaros an assassin and not specialist?
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>>181833113
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>>181835702

Wait shit, wrong one
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>Incists on people playing certain heroes from his pro-gamer tier list that he saw on a pro-gamer website.
>Has no idea if people are good with said heroes or if they even own them.
>Refuses to play the heroes he orders other people to play.
>Gets really confused and angry when he loses with his pro-picked team.
>You will find him forever stuck in silver league.
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>>181835702
How do I Auriel?
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best TLV level 13 talent?

by the way is /vp/ dead?
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>>181836352
Jump is the only option.
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>>181835603
2/10
He will get smacked when he channels his underground arm and channels his long arm.
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>>181836216

Place hat on people that are currently doing the best damage, it is not a set and forget skill. Try to heal people in groups, this game not having chat is fucking RETARDED so since you can't tell people to group up try to wait for the best opportunity. Chain faggots to walls, I like the talent that slows after this, it ensures death. Aegis or Resurrect depends on comp. Aegis is most of the time better though, don't wait until someone is a sliver away from dying, wait till they're in a cluster, the explosion will give you energy for a good heal. Stay in the background, positioning is critical for all things on Auriel, you need it for staying alive, healing properly, blinding with sweep and chaining faggots to walls. Since you need to constantly be around someone, you also need to learn when they're done for. Save a soldier syndrome will just get you both killed.

That's about all I can think of
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>>181836216
Marry your damage, slap enemies with ribbons, shit out heals.
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>>181835603
52%
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>>181836628

*voice chat
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>>181836216
>>181836628
protip, resurrect is a win more skill

If you're already winning all your fights, resurrecting the one guy who died is a great boon

If you take it while not winning your fights, you're just going to give the enemy an extra kill.

Even if you are winning, all that can change in the blink of an eye with either a new talent tier by the enemy or maybe some idiot on your team, turning resurrect into a liability.

Aegis is the safer and better option 99% of the time.
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>>181836352
Jump! is pretty much the only talent you should ever take from that level
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>>181836890

Yeah agreed, I didn't want to write it off entirely though.

What could they do to change it though? A second or two of invulnerability? Not fucking showing the enemy the glowing KILL HERE rez icon?
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>>181836890
If you are losing a fight aegis wont save you either. At best you just keep one person from dying. Most of the time you don't even do that.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/pbtvsp.mp4
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>>181836982
Not showing the icon would probably be the best thing. It is effectively a cocoon in most situations. The enemy just gangs up around it. Aegis explodes, preventing that most of the time. Also it doesn't last as long so not as much time for setup.

Other changes? I don't know. Do other mobas have res characters? How do they handle it? Let's steal that.
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>>181836060
also:
>he only plays the assassin
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>>181837115
You're using Aegis wrong.

Don't put it on the last person when they're on 2% health

Put it on the first person the enemy focuses and do it at 90%. Enemy blows their cooldowns on your aegis, leaving them unable to properly deal damage while your team moves in.
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>high diamond
>still filled with people that dont know how to draft
>finally get a decent comp that can outrace valla on boe
>greymane backs as the immortal spawns every fucking time
>lose
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>>181837321
This is great advice if you want to troll your team and fill chat with salt.
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>>181837158

I don't play LoL, but Dota doesn't, closest would be Wraith Kings ult but that's a personal thing. No one probably has it because Dota has buybacks, although idk, since Monkey King came out and the roster is now complete anyone from here on is a completely new hero.

Hots is filled with cool and interesting concepts I'd love to see in dota
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Can I talk about Starcraft here, my general isn't exactly a general
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SC general fucking sucks.
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>>181837506

You'll only fill the chat with salt if you use it while they're using a skill or someshit. Any smart teammate will appreciate the teamfight shift. It's essentially a fight reseter in your favor since all their shit's on cooldown.
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>>181837602
Is SC Remastered going to see a resurgence in starcraft pro games?
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Weird, I can post in some boards but not others.
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>lose a bunch of QM games with abathur thanks to shit teams
>switch over to one of the autism lane pushing heroes
>win all the time thanks to the level lead you can create alone
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>>181837927
>play vikings
>kit aint good enough for a value pick
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>>181837871
Maybe not in the west but Korea has already brought back a ton of BW pro players and its been going strong for a year now, Remaster will just strengthen that even further maybe bringing in new blood.
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>>181838007
Vietnam has best esports scene
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>>181837770
Any smart teammate would appreciate a heal a lot more than being put in stasis. If the fight doesn't go your way quickly you've essentially guaranteed they die when it ends.
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>>181838007
Do you think the remaster will be a good opportunity for new players that weren't there to live the golden days of bw to get into the game? I like Starcraft but my game knowledge goes as far HotS
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>>181838285
Original game is going free,as long as you can widescreen it with no remaster its cool
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>>181838256

Sure, you want to be right so badly, have it.
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>>181838285
Just download BW and start playing now.
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>>181838358
You don't have to take my word. Watch pro games. You will literally never seen an auriel do what you suggest.
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>>181838509

Pro games and our games are two different worlds
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>>181838582
So your argument for it is that you can get away with mistakes like that at your rank?
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>>181837602
>good hydralisks
>scourge
>30 control groups with 12 zerglings each
I'm not ready for this. All I did was play big game hunters with my cousin and his friends. I'm not ready for this.
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>>181839312

Stop trying to be condescending, holy shit. What the actual fuck is wrong with you that you need to win an "argument" this fucking badly?
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>its a "thrall and lili in your demotion game" episode

Kill yourselves.
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>>181839312

>Using Aegis is a mistake

Just stop
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>pushing lanes with azmodan
>enemy sends two people to kill me
>my team loses the 4v3 fight
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>>181839312
>use pro games as examples
>9/10 times they take aegis
Have another (you)
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>>181839426
Because some people are dumb enough to ask for advice here and I don't want some dumbass auriel pulling that shit on me.

>>181839568
Are you retarded?
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>>181839380
>30 control groups with 12 zerglings each

Does this really happen?
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DK everyone skins when?
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>>181839693

Pulling what? Using Aegis on you when the enemy is dumping spells on you?

Better, describe a good use of Aegis then.
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>>181839727
Nope. As far as I know you can only have 12 control groups total.
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>>181839808
>Put it on the first person the enemy focuses and do it at 90%.
Unless literally every person on the other team used an ability you are just trading a stun for a stasis.
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>>181839754
Is that some bootleg thing?
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>Me playing hots (Heart of the Swarm, the SC2 one)
>Replaying now the campaign on brutal
>That mission where you defeat general Warfield
>Take all the mass zergling evolutions, where they move fast, spawn instantly as 3 and that kerrigan talent where you get every 30 seconds dead zerglings back
>overrun the enemy with tons of zerglings, have limit always 200/200, when they kill half of those they instantly reappear and get to their base in 2 seconds
>After that I talk with Zagara
>Kerrigans says; I did not defeat them through numbers, what I had was vision and he didn't

BRUH I LITERALLY OVERRUN YOUR BASE BY MASS, WTF ARE YOU TALKING YOU STOOPID BISH
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>>181839996

So you're that wound up on that one line instead of focusing on the rest or what >>181836628 said

What the hell is actually happening to the average IQ of this site. I'm getting pains in my gut.
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>>181835702
>tfw you get MVP even though you think you didn't contribute much and you didn't top the scoreboard in anything
must be because 0 deaths I guess
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>>181839996
When a person on your team gets stunned, the enemy team should be using their abilities on that person. If the enemy team isn't collapsing on stun targets, you're probably in bronze.
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>>181840130
New hearthstone expansion leaked on chinese website
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>>181840224
>What the hell is actually happening to the average IQ of this site. I'm getting pains in my gut.
Considering >>181836890 is what I responded to I have to wonder as well.
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>>181840368
They may not need it. If you aegis someone at 90% you're a fucking idiot. You only use it if it is obvious they can't get away and will die.
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>>181841027
Perhaps 90% was a bit of an exaggeration. But the point still stands. Aegising the last guy alive at 5% of his health is a waste and worthless.

You use Aegis before predictable burst. The most predictable burst generally occurs at the start of a fight. Mura will stun Valla, so you Aegis her as the rest of the team moves in for the kill, for example. Generally don't use it on tanks because they should be able to survive the burst on their own (that's basically what they're there for).
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>>181841858
If you aegis a tank then the enemy team has to choose between approaching and putting that tank in the middle of their backline in 2 seconds, or holding off and letting your team unfuck whatever had you in that position where they were ready to fight and you weren't.
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>>181841858
My initial point was that neither was particularly good. If someone is bad enough to be asking for advice here it's probably best they don't use either. Both used poorly can fuck your team.
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>start to get winning streak in ranked
>23 wins 14 losses
>suddenly literal golds appear in my teams
>they do shit like locust anub, pyroblast kt, and devil's due + speed demon Diablo against literally zero stuns and roots
>picking heroes they have below 30% winrate with
>they always die a fuckton
>eventually get to demotion
>1 guy disconnected from the start
>lag spike in the middle of the game, followed by a second dc

Why, why must blizzard force this 50% winrate? Do I just buy skins to appease them?
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>>181842539
hehehehehHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHUEHUEHEUHEUEHUE another goyim bitesowa za dusto
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>have game with EXPBadBenny
>win easy at 13 min mark
>next game against EXPBadBenny
>lose hard at 13 min mark

hmmm

this guy too good, also only plays tanks
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>>181843009
Isn't he the main tank of a pro team? Also if you were in playing with him in that dragon shire map he played like shit.
>>
Why does it constantly feel like the matchmaking is trying to make me carry idiots?
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>>181840167
>Go back to Abathur, Zagara. He still has a lot to improve in you
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>>181843119
>ds
no, I wasn't in whatever game you played with him. This was like two days ago on cursed hollow then infernal shrines.

It keeps me awake at night, so I had to share it
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>>181843546
>But it's painful and shit
>>
>>181842527

That can apply to literally anything
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How would you react if Doomfist was the next hero after Stukov?
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>>181844242
Is he a karate nigger o a we wuz kangz nigger?
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>>181844242
Is that negro next Overwatch guy?
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>>181844242
How many dashes does he have?
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>>181844052
There aren't very many heroics that can cause a team to lose by themselves.
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>>181844242
>>181844313
>>181844338
he has too much overlap

He's got kerrigan's shields
Johanna's falling sword
karaziem's punches
genji dash


would just be a big composit hero
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>>181844438
All of them. He has the dashes of every other character and uses them randomly.
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>>181844593
But can he go invulnerable?
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>>181844242
For such a hyped character he looks so boring, could've at least designed him like a masked wrestler or something.
>>
Does vs AI wins count for that win one game every day event shit they got going?
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>>181845050
Yeah, if you win it.
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>>181844242
is that the shaq-fu promo?
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>>181844756
Its forbidden to shoot at blacks unless you got cop skin for Dr.Va
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>13 game loss streak
Why is everyone playing this game so fucking bad at the game?
Do I have to play one of the stronger heroes to even hope to win?
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>>181846402
Kids are out of school for the summer.
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>>181844756
during his ult, yes

you also don't see the targeting reticule until he's already barreling down on you

and it one shots assassins

enjoy your balanced game
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>>181832471
Wow, how can a picture get her body so close to perfect but fuck up her face that bad?
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>>181845515

Only funny thing about that is how fast chat is moving
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>>181844242
blizz is really stepping up their husbando game with overwatch.
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>>181844535
>Genji dash
It's more like Diablo charge
>>
Will we have Imperius?
>>
How to build Uther pls?
>>
Any good fanfics for HotS?

Or Warcraft or Starcraft or Diablo, I'm not picky.

But not Overwatch. I'm a little picky.
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>>181844242
>post yfw Stukovs first post release skin is Doomfist
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>>181848728
Probably but likely not soon
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>>181836352
games getting slower and the git gud mindset /v/ kiddies has made it go toxic fast. That and vs ai is garbage so it's either slog through killing dumb ai like it's D3 or deal with bad players or try hards bitch 24/7 when the game is loss.
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>>181850748
They asked about /vp/

>>181836352
Furfag raid every night for a few nights
>>
did they hand out the prize for the winners?
can't believe I didn't win when they don't even have fucking 100k players yet
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>>181851445
Tommorow
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>>181848728
No, next is Garrosh and comes with a Grom skin.
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>>181852020
>current year
>still no orc warrior class
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>>181852265
>still no Warcraft map
>here lol have Hanamura
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>>181852778
They only pick their most well-known characters and locations. That's why Ogden is truly next.
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Is Abathur great for ranked?
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Why can't they just publish all the female characters ass/bust-waist ratio with precise dimensions including any variations caused by a skin already!
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>>181855771
>not picking based on the comp
>>
Can I get a quick rundown on the summer sweepstakes?
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>>181856219
win a game once a day, get entered into a drawing for assorted shit, lose
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>>181852020
>Implying it won't be Hanzo but with three dashes and permanent invulnerability
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>south america & oceania excluded from the lottery
>russia isn't
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>181855771
Abathur is your one special pick in ranked.
On certain maps (cursed hollow, sky temple, infernal shrines, garden of terror), he can be amazing, but since he takes up the "special" slot, by picking him you are putting the burden on your team to have a good Tank, a good healer, a solid ranged damage dealer, and a decent bruiser. If any of those other slots aren't filled and you're not going for a total meme comp where everyone knows what they're doing, you ruined the draft for your team.

Also you don't want Aba too early in the picks because his counters fuck him hard if you're not amazing at body placement.
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>>181857537
Russia should be excluded from being allowed to play the fucking game in the first place.
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>>181857537
>south america is excluded
>mexico is included

feels good
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>>181857809
>Open lootbox
>Get beheaded by druglord
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>>181857735
Who even counters abathur? The only hero ive hated playing against was zeratul.
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>>181858147
Medivh's and stealthies that suicide by core killing you?
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>>181858147
Any of the stealth heroes can trash him hard. Rag can melt aba if he doesn't pay attention. Azmodon spec right can kill him in one well placed dunk.
>>
>trying to help allies as medivh
>end up dying yourself and they never do anything with your portals or [PROTECTED]
help me, I just want pubs not to be retarded when there's a medivh on their team prazo 29-25
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>>181859465
>tfw even typed captcha in the post
help
>>
Do you just get a regular loot box from doing the weekly brawl?
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>>181858147
strong early game counters aba the best cause his team should lose every teamfight until he gets his ult.
I'm not a fan of stealth wasting time hunting for Aba so either Dehaka or Falstad to offset some of Aba's soak and Azmodan, Medivh, Chromie and Tyrande all easily kill an Aba hiding behind buildings.
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>>181857767
No, they can play, but they should be auto-forced onto the Asia servers. Russia is not Europe, Russians are not European, you're on the wrong side of the Ural, fuck OFF from our servers.
Annoy some chinks and gooks for all I care, maybe you'll learn something from them.
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>>181842539
Pyroblast is 100% the right choice against specific comps/heroes, the fact that you think selecting it over Phoenix automatically makes them gold makes YOU the bronzie
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>>181858147
Strong early-game/push comps.
If he actually body soaks Stealths, Dehaka and Falstad fuck him if he doesn't pay attention.
If he just hides behind a fort all day, Azmodan fucks him.
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Who /kingofskytemple/ here?
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>>181861053
Cute doe ass!
>>
>IT IS NEARLY... TIME [smug laughter]

Raven Lord announcer for all maps when?
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>>181859794
you get a summer chest but the summer chest usually just has normal lootbox shit inside it, or maybe some summer themed sprays or voicelines that you'll never use
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>>181861610
>he didnt get at least one summer legendary
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>>181861706
i got the tracer skin but i didn't like its custom sound effects so I switched back to Throwback Tracer
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>>181860848
9/10 ok variation
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>>181860848
pretty good.
>>
Should I get prime evil diabla?

pros:
>super cute!
>wide hips! the widest!!!
>awesome voice
>dope model

cons:
>maybe a little too wide >implying that's a con
>>
>>181844242

>has cybernetic/metal-plated legs and feet
>has exposed toes

i mean that's my fetish so i'm not complaining but what a weird fucking design
>>
>>181862897
also in cons
>looks like shit
>worse than normal diablo
>not actually cute at all
>costs 1600 doritos that you could spend on something actually good instead
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>>181863204
>tfw got all Lurkablo tints from boxes but playing Diablo makes me want to kill myself
>>
Owl has a retardedly long cooldown, especially when you take into consideration of how off center the cursor is.
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>>181844242
how is a character named DOOMFIST not as tall and beefy as reinhardt

he's 1/3rd the size he should be based on his name
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>>181863339
that's why you get the CDR talent so you can pierce 4 niggas back to back
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>>181863419
>he doesn't take 5 man mini-shrink ray
Yeah, you're the reason she has a bad winrate.

>>181863339
>how off center the cursor is
We told you off already, the conclusion that you're a complete shitter is still valid, don't think we'll forget.
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>tfw PTR queue times are too long so gotta make your own fun

this should be a brawl or something when Stukov comes out

also Terrans need a warrior
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>>181863419
the cdr talent is shit though
owl's damage is not high enough for it to be worth spending a talent on decreasing its cooldown.
even if you take the meme owl talent at level 1, you are only gonna get that damage bonus if you're far enough away that travel time makes more of a distance than cooldown, so cdr is still shit

the owl is useful for two things:
-Getting vision of places you aren't at, and
-Harsh Moonlight at 13
oh yeah and
-spamming it in teamfights just so you have more quest stacks/pierce targets for when you get the level 13 talent that makes it actually useful
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>>181863939
fuck ur ass
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>>181863939
just play with bot allies if you wanna test stukov
>>
>>181863939
>also Terrans need a warrior
Only a Thor could qualify, terrans are squishy little things.
>>
> I am Muradin
>Enemy Malth and Thychus

I should go One Punch Dwarf, yes?
>>
what's the fucking point of tiny-aoe spells like owl and moonfire "revealing" anyways
to unstealth anyone you have to actually hit them with the ability, which would reveal them anyways even without the special reveal code.
and both have small enough aoe that you aren't going to hit them on a stealthed hero unless you already see the stealthie's shimmer and know exactly where he is

samuro and valeera didn't even exist when these skills were designed so blizz doesn't have the excuse of "they're useful if you hit someone before they go unrevealable"

imo moonfire's reveal should just be removed and sentinel's should be in an AOE around the bird, the same size as its vision radius
>>
Opinion: Just give a small amount of armor to FrostWolf Resilience, Throw on some max HP and call Thrall a warrior.

Objections?
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>>181864509
Because you can hit people behind walls or in bushes and they'll stay visible for the revealed period, giving any ranged attackers the ability to attack into FoW.
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>>181864509
>Playing stealthies
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>>181864450
>when u get the reference
nice one dude xD
>>
>>181864823
(you)
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>>181818476
is this frank lapidus?
>>
It's off, no matter what mental gymnastics you're trying to come off with.

If they wanted to have a top-down crosshair they should've made the game top down. When it's isometric they should have a crosshair made for the isometric gameplay.
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I fucking hate Overwatch heroes they're literally the worst thing to happen to this game
most of them are unbearable to play as or against, especially this nigger faggot Lucio

fuck you blizzard and your baby's first fps bullshit, as if having WoW-only character wasn't already enough
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>>181864006
What build do you suggest then?
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>>181865834
Hey, time traveller from two months ago.
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>>181865834
>especially Lucio
What year is it exactly? Lucio hasn't been relevent for like 4 months.
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>>181865834
This pasta is old and stale, garcon. Reprimand the chef and bring me a fresh plate.
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>>181866516
just finished a QM with no ranged stun abilities in my team, it's literally impossible to catch this monkey when he runs away
but Genji makes me far angrier on average
>>
Morales is such an anti fun hero

either you can dive and kill her and it's free kills every teamfight, or you can't and it's free deaths every teamfight
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>just playing vs bots game with abathur to chillax
>someone on the team says I'm good with him and it was a blast having such a good support

That was a nice feel
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>doggo
Cute
CUUUTEEEE
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>>181867257
>doggo
You need to go back.
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>>181864749
Someone post that webm of an artanis and tyrande bullying an abathur who was sitting at core.
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So now that Stukov is filling the last slot, who are they going to be removing to make room for new heroes?
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>>181867480
abathur i hope
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>>181867480
Gazlowe is going back to Israel
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>>181867257
Is Logan /goodboy/?
>>
is this a graphical glitch? i have a promo game for silver but it says if i win my next promo game i will be promoted to bronze 4.
>>
Does it count as feeding when you have a 4-man group sticking to one lane, and doesn't even snipe any towers?
>>
>>181867480
With any luck? Abathur, Medivh or Genji.

>>181867898
Verbal abuse/harassment is the only one that does anything.
>>
Have you knelt before the terror lord today /hotsg/?
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>>181867382
trying too hard kiddo
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>>181868456
Vhat are you, to a man who feels no fear?
>>
Would you a diablo(female)?
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>>181867172
>aba
>supp
>>
do the /vg/ bros get angry in qm???
>>
Is blizzard just gonna force all the existing players to quit the game, because they refuse to remove samuro and OW cancer?
>>
>>181869630
depends on the person.

most of /vg/ chat is pretty chill, but there are a few assholes like usual
>>
>Huntress' Fury
>Tyrande's Basic Attacks against targets with Hunter's Mark splash to nearby Heroes and Mercenaries
So, does that mean I get mad cool down reduction if I hunters mark a hero, then have it splash, when I have healing cdr talent?
Or does this game do it's usual "mental gymnastics" when it comes to talent interaction?
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>>181863330
play him on maps with fuckloads of tight spaces like the immortal one, that's how i have fun with him. stunlocking people and tossing them around is great
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>>181869630
There are tacos among us so watch you're back
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>>181869441
does more healing than tassadar if he talents for it
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>>181869921
>tfw diablo on ToD
I can't explain it, it's like no matter where you put diablo, there is a wall within charging distance.
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which tracer summer skin is better?
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>>181867480
all overwatch heroes
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>>181870138
>more belly
>more legs
gee boss i dunno
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>>181870085
>tass
>healing
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>>181870138
left because her model in HOTS is dogshit
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>>181870138
>more leg
>more midriff
>armor shit matches
>no stupid cloak
>better glasses
>better hair

>>181870351
Q lifesteal
hello
>>
>>181870351
>lifesteal

Whats next,you going to say abbathur cannot heal?
>>
Who are the meanest and nicest to their healers?
>>
>>181870826
Alarak/Raynor
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>>181871232
>Always remember to thank your healers
I think Mura is the "nicest" guy, like he's not actually grateful he can regen by himself after all, but just doesn't want some stuckup support to throw a shitfit.
>>
>>181870826
alarak, then probably lili or one of the other supports
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>>181839727
>>181839929
but also only 12 units per control group :^)
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>>181867018
Such is "Meta"

There are heroes that are just kind of all around anyone can can fight them on certain levels, and then you have "better counter pick me or I automatically win"
>>
>>181838007
Has there been a 3rd ASL?
>>
>>181837602

why this is allowed in /vg/ ?
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>>181872781
Yes, the second final was when they announced Remaster and there was another ASL after that and they had the final in some park.
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Who /thicc/ here?
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>>181874065
prime cutie diabla is like 10x thiccer, makes mama hammer look like malthael
>>
>Wew, people sure hated it when Tychus has 2 health bars with his get out of jail free ult. Good thing we fixed that.
>Yo famalama what do you want to do with our D.Va port?
>Let's give her an ultimate level ability at level 1 and two health bars LMAO
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>>181874247
>demon grill
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>>181874547
yeah but didn't tychus actually do something other than have two health bars

d.va just kind of exists and doots people around while her team dies
>>
>>181874547
>deal insane damage
>get into mech
>do even more damage
is a whole lot different than
>deal no damage in mech
>leave mech
>still no damage.
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draenei when?
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Tyrande is the funnest hero
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>>181874839
Sorry to say it but there isn't even one planned right now, and they've got like, over a years worth of heroes in the pipeline.
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>>181874910
>didnt pick a talent while fighting
>nvidia
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>>181875103
I was too hyped over getting to snipe valla, I ran across the map for it.
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>>181874910
>doing the same thing that Nova can do
>except on a 20 second cooldown with no escape
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>>181875334
Bruh, it's healer build, she can heal a little bit too.
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>murky is legendary cause fuck you

meanwhile STILL no Alarak announcer
>>
Is there like a discord or something for people that wanna try and get the vulture mount? I don't wanna have to go through the trouble of leveling 4 different accounts
>>
>>181867018
counter to morales is AOE poke/harassment

she has huge amounts of sustain heal but low burst mitigation
you poke two heroes at once to lowish hp. morales gets to choose one (1) of them to use her single-target heal on. then you focus fire on the other one and get a kill
>>
>>181875953
>Complaining about 400 shards
>>
>overnigger
wew
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>>181878130
Considering that things is 1,600 it's understandable
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Really glad the map was Hanamura!
Because who doesnt like pushing power on Hanamura with no teamfight presence at all against 2 (3 with clone) heavy AAs.
On Hanamura!
>>
>Abathur comes to you and says that your genes are weak
>He suggest you to let him improve them

Would you accept his offer?

Possible risks: Eternal suffering and pain, random growth of tentacles, loss of sanity and other non-life threatening things
>>
>>181878509
forts are important on hanamura but that makes people misunderstand that they should take pushing specialists are good when really you just need to 100% be winning teamfights, then push keeps. Map is too small for someone like Probius to just get away with bullying a lane by himself
>>
>>181878616
I'm not trusting a fat slug that can't improve himself.
>Weakest hp in the game
>can barely move any unless underground
>scrawny arms
>looks, lives and acts like a 400 year old man child
>>
>>181878616
This made me remember something
In Hots campaign Abathur says that Stukov's infested organism is too complicated for him to understand

But his ult in heroes makes a BETTER clone out of him? Is this a paradox? Lorewise he shouldnt be even able to even copy Stukov, not talking even about to make it better than original
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new player here
why is everyone shitting on tyrande?
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>>181878616
I'm not trusting a fat slug that can't improve himself.
>Weakest hp in the game
>can barely move any unless underground
>scrawny arms
>looks, lives and acts like a 400 year old man child NEET
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>>181878938
Lorewise Falstad shouldn't be able to kill Ragnaros but here we are.
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>>181878946
hots players are really into scat for some reason
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>>181878946
she's bad rn, needs buff
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>>181879007
>fat slug that can't improve
Isn't he already the perfect form? He doesn't like to waste ressources, his job is being the brain, a brain doesn't need a strong body which would be a waste of organic matter, a brain uses other strong disposable bodies in a war without having the risk that brain gets damaged.
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>>181878946
She has middling healing that requires putting yourself in ore danger than most supports, and her damage isn't nearly good enough to compensate.
Her rework got rid of a fairly unique ability within hots (Global range heal that gave your entire team stealth) and replaced it with an attack steroid
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>>181874910
>Elune's Chosen instead of Mark of Mending
W H Y
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>>181878946
she was reworked to have a focus on hybrid dps/healing
but her damage is still extremely shit
so there's no real reason to pick her
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>>181820028
>Please explain what Alanis Morisette has to do with Diablo 2, Xul, and/or necromancy.
this line was much funnier than it had any right to be, jesus christ
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>50% movement speed boost
>Azmodan still outruns me
That's hacking, right? I've tried him myself, and he can at most run 80% of his normal speed while channeling, not fucking 160% movement speed.
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Kharazim's animations in the hero select screen really bother me. It looks like they made a really fast bouncing animation but they slowed it down by half for whatever reason. It looks so unnatural.
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>>181880417
his idle animation when he was released was actually worse believe it or not, not that the current one is good
I wish they made him stand still in a cool pose
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>>181864236
Or a hellion/hellbat
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>>181879541
According to the art book he can't improve himself because he was too undeveloped, hence his obsession.
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Not dying is more important than tunnelvisioning any objective tbqh
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>>181881701
>abbathur was undeveloped
Not really, Overmind made him to mold other Zerg,he cannot really mold himself because he has to digest DNA so to speak into strands and then incorporate them into old or new strain.

He is obessive and perfectionist (but not overly imaginative) because those traits were important for his purpose.
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>queue up for a QM
>enemy team has dehaka, uther and stitches
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>>181878616
Yeah. Just make it clear what your purpose is. Ex: I'm not in a combat role so don't give me random claws and spines.
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>>181882059
So he's an autistic savant because that's how God made him?
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>>181882341
>playing QM
You have no one to blame but yourself
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>Johanna says not to engage in teamfight
>Not 60 seconds later, she runs in to four enemies and wipes the group
>Call her out
>Don't even swear
>Tells me I didn't give her vision so it's my fault
>I'm playing Brightwing
>Tell her it's a talent and I have to teleport for it
>"Reported."

Who was in the wrong here?
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>>181882828
You for being mad enough to blogpost about it on 4chins
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Why do people even complain about Nova or Valeera when Zeratul exists?
Valeera or Nova are usually dead if they fuck up their ambush or someone reveals them, this faggot can teleport in and out of combat as he pleases, and if things go south he always has his void prison to stop you from actually punishing him.
He is second only to Genji in terms of having a get-out-of-jail free card
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>>181883247
Noobs basically. They are shit because they either have too bad computers to see stealth or are mentally damaged and cannot deal with invisible things.
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>>181883247
Nova and Valeera are QM stompers that take little skill to use. They can easily be drafted against and destroyed with enough awareness, but you get neither in QM. Thus, a lot of people complain about them. Zera takes a good amount of skill to play so you usually don't see him in QM versus Nova and Valeera.
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>>181883247
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>>181882828
stuff like that happens
dont get upset over miscommunication. its just not worth your time
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anyone have that zeratul valeera webm where valeera caps a point because zeratul didnt understand whats going on
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How do I stutter step better? I can do it fine switching between attack-move and right clicking but if someones in a minion wave or by a merc camp that'll make me miss vs them
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Is Tyrande really THAT bad?
>cdr on heal
>Stealth for 50% attack speed
>30% damage reduction from all heros hit by owl
>Heal teammate for 200% of your basic attack speed
>25% extra attack speed + 8-40% damage reduction to basic attack target
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>>181884846
Listing things heroes do does not magically make them good.
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>>181884846
Yes, she really is.

Mileage does not matter in QM so doing well with her a few games doesn't make her less bad.
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>>181884846
She's good, can't solo support is all

also runs out of mana really quick if you don't complete quest early on
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Is Zul'jin just a better Raynor?
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>>181885087
Yes, and Zul'jin is worse Valla/Greyman
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>>181884037
>see pic

>>181885087
Almost everything is a better Raynor.
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>>181884924
But I mean, you can stunt a target by 70% damage output, and actually pump out a lot of healing... Assuming you're left somewhat alone.
Then there's also ofc the 25% increased damage from hunters mark, and an extra party wide 20% extra damage.

On paper she sounds pretty good... I guess maybe some heroes just shut all form of gameplay down (like genji, anub'arak), and maybe even pros aren't good enough to perfectly utilize her.
Though, she is pretty lack-luster early game.
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>>181885087
Raynor has superior single target damage at a longer range, and scales much, much better in the late game. Especially vs warriors with giant killer at 13.

Zul'Jin does mad damage but Raynor can almost single handedly halt an enemy push from a dragon knight/garden terror, or just pushes in general by melting tanks at 20 with giant killer+seasoned marksman+inspire, bonus points if he has someone on his team to combo executioner with.

That said Raynor also crumbles a lot easier than Zul'Jin when the enemy all ins him without the backup of Taz'Dingo, but Raynor should definitely not be underestimated.
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>tfw highest amount of Kills I've ever gotten in a game

What's your record /hotsg/?
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>>181880235
did he have a lucio buddy
there's nothing funnier than speedbosting the giant fat laserbug
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>>181885369
may be a dumb question but would Giant Killer apply bonus damage proportional to a garden terror hp or is it not considered a hero?
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>>181885369
Are you sure you're not talking about Tychus?
It's tychus that's a tank killer with all that %hp damage.
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>>181884037
right click on the person you want to attack
then right click the ground
then right click on the person you want to attack
then right click the ground

there are no complicated steps here, i don't understand why you need hotsgee to explain it to you
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rancor or farflight quiver?
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>>181884037
>>181885623
Unfortunately hots has terrible movement mechanic, and the biggest battle you'll have with the game is the controls.
If it had battlerite controls the game would be at least 10x better.
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>>181885381
40 or 50 in a Bronze-Silver game. Don't recall and forgot to screenshot it.

>>181885759
Ye, didn't realize how shitty it felt until trying out another game.
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>>181885716
depends on team comp but farflight is situational while rancor is almost always the correct choice
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>>181836352
For practical purposes jump is prettymuch the only thing that is taken. It allows vikings to teamfight and gives them a pretty safe escape.

If you're against low mobility / low aoe teams that cant really gank you though, you can go burning olaf to improve his splitpush.
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>>181885716
>can I aa without punish?
Rancor

>can they dive me?
Farflight
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>>181837115
You use aegis to stop CC chains and burst. You dont drop it on someone when they're dead, you drop it on someone when something puts them out of position, so as to prevent damage while your team repositions to help them.
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>>181884846
>cdr on heal
even if she gets to attack 100% of the time she still has less heal output than other supports
>Stealth for 50% attack speed
despite having a bunch of meme autoattack-boosting talents she still has the attack damage of a support hero. You wouldn't stimdrone your Gul'Dan, and you wouldn't waste an ultimate choice on giving Tyrande attack speed. and before you mention the heal cd: over its duration, this ultimate gives her something like 6 seconds more cooldown reduction compared to just attacking normally. that's not even 1 full extra cast of heal.
>Heal teammate for 200% of your basic attack speed
see above. Tyrande's shit damage means this is just about always worse than mark of mending
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>>181886019
Tyrande has near assassin base AA damage what are you on about? she doesn't hit THAT hard but she's no Li-Li, so the self-stim on a 20s cd is quite potent, with hunter's mark she can actually almost 1v1 a lot of heroes
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>>181844242
He has a pretty good moba-like kit. He cares about knocking things into each other or walls like diablo/auriel, he has some small gapclosers and mini-interrupts.

His falling sword... errr Meteor strike lets him dive and the kerrigan passive keeps him in fights.

I think he'd be fun.
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>>181886284
>quite potent
still significantly less potent than starfall even if you are for some reason in a 1v1
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>>181848728
I hope we do, Imperius could make an actually decent multi-class warrior/assassin

SOLARION TIME BOYS

Also that fucking beautiful giant halo.
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>>181885716
Safety Vs. Damage.

If you're this guy >>181874910
then I'd recommend Farflight and just sitting back and plinking away, like Raynor

Rancor into heavy frontline, or just teams incapable of reliably reaching you. Also scales a tad harder with skill than Farflight.

>>181848728
Eventually
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>>181886380
Starfall does nothing until level 20 though... I mean, some damage, and a slow, but it doesn't apply hunters mark.
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>>181858147
Abathur is good at doing things uncontested. When he gets contested is when he has real fucking issues. Oh and things that prevent him from moving around the map, or from him seeing them on minimap.

Dehaka, Falstad, Zagara, Azmodan, Zeratul.
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>>181886503
Yeah starfall does low damage and low slow in an AOE, it's not a hugely impactful ult. The fact that it's still better than shadowstalk is pretty sad.
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>tfw you throw games on a smurf and watch the rage as you drop from diamond to bronze

People are salty as fuck in gold and plat, holy hell
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>>181886730
and why would you waste your time to ruin 9 other people's fun like that? do you have nothing better to do
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>>181886730
>Actually smurfing on Heroes of all games
How bad do you gotta be?
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>>181885514
Yes Garden Terror/DK count as heroes and have any bonuses against heroes applied to them, you can also get quests stacks off of them. That said % based damage is capped after a certain amount, not sure when exactly

>>181885589
Yes, but Tychus has to be within almost melee range, and getting stunned interrupts minigun. I'd much prefer Raynor to Tychus against someone like Anub'Arak if I needed a giant killer
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>>181886929
Correct.

>>181886948
Pretty bad. You can win games by accident. Forced 50 is real.
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>>181879761
Because it should heal more.

if I mark a target, then the target runs away, nobody can self-heal.
Meanwhile, I can just auto attack mobs, or a building, and heal somebody for loads.

Chances of teammates even knowing to attack hunter marked target is pretty low as well.
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>>181886284
You know that Tyrande's invisible ult only gives her 3 attacks over what she'd normally do in the same amount of time if she spends her *WHOLE TIME* auto-attacking?

It's a bad ult, the other one is better.
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>>181886730
oh how are you doing it
abathur/leoric/murky seemed a bit much
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>>181886652
Shadow stalk gives you some form of escape, and increases your healing and damage output significantly...
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>>181887165
Mostly just playing risky melee assassins and positioning poorly. And when people get salty, you just stoke the flames and they throw for you.
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>>181881701
dosn't he say as much in HotS? I feel you could have a talk about that before one of the missions.
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>>181887283
>healing output significantly
the entire duration gives you 6s of cooldown reduction on your heal
it's less than a single extra cast
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>>181887515
And what does starfall give you? Oh right, nothing.
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>>181887301
dying all the time can't be that fun
you can't throw a game in 10 minutes either
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>create hero to melt all others
>give him absurd healing and hp
why does blizz do this
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>>181887751
To attempt to attract an audience that would never want to play their game.
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>>181887751
Malthael has no HP even with 50 phys + 20 armor
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>>181887283
>Shadow stalk gives you some form of escape
Sure

>and increases your healing and damage output significantly...

Three extra auto-attacks in the same period of time does not increase your healing or damage output significantly.

Tyrande has a base AA speed of 1.25, the buff from shadowstalk is 50% for 5 seconds. 1.25 * 5 = 6.25, 1.25 * 1.5 = 1.875 * 5 = 9.375

That isn't a "massive buff to DPS" or healing, its 6 additional seconds off of Q, and its about 360 extra damage from AA's (without factoring darnassian archery) all at level 10.

Starfall at level 10 is 130 dps * number of targets for 6 seconds. or 780 damage if something is in it for the full duration.

Being as tyrande is so shit at healing anyways and generally has fucking horrible damage, you should be taking the ult that actually kills things better (starfall) so you dont have to worry too much about healing things.
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>>181887751
His HP is middle of the pack, and his healing is only okay. Malthael has *zero burst* so he needs to be in fights for very prolonged periods of time in order to do anything; and without tormented souls he has no aoe to apply his mark on multiple targets.

a "short" fight for malthael is 20+ seconds.
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>>181887749
Most of the fun is in the salt and what I do while I tab out during death timer
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what if both ults are good and you pick either depending on the comp/map

starfall is good for zoning on objective heavy map
shadowstalk is better for ganksquads and burst damage

and don't underestimate the power of AAs even on a support, otherwise what's the point of playing an assassin/support hybrid and not morales
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>kharazim take insight
>doesn't finish quest at 18 minutes
>1/3 the healing of enemy morales
>takes damage ult
>9 deaths
>"don't play assassin if you can't kill healers!"
Why is it the shitter that complains the most literally every time
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>tfw you had 15k saved up for Stukov but suddenly really want to buy something else

Fug

Looks like I won't be joining you in the 5 minute QM queues, lads
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>>181888286
But starfall is literally better damage and also better for ganks because it has a slow.

Shadowstalk's main use seems to be using it to become invincible in the "nobody ever sees stealth shimmers" shit tiers
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>teammates throw
>i lose points
this is why i play 1v1 games
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>>181888286
>shadowstalk is better for ganksquads and burst damage

No it isn't. It's shit.
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>Enemy Azmodan goes lazer
>Don't have stuns
>Speed boost isn't enough to get away
>Can still push your shit in while not even having to be there.

The only time I see him play like shit is if he tries to go dunk build.
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>>181888330
I had a jack ass that was a Valeera and Arthas on Braxis holdout that kept soloing objectives when we were out classed (and eventually out leveled thanks to her and Arthas feeding the enemy team) and dying piles while we were trying to do all we had which was guarding one and pushing that top lane (we had two specialist, Azmodan, and Probius, while they had none and another assassin Ragnorus) but we couldn't keep it up because both kept charging bottom lane alone getting killed bitching and pinging us rather than being a team player or at the very least not running in the middle 1v3+ just to try and cap an objective. But no, it was the whole team and they bitch how we were trash bronze players,I decided to look them up after the match and the Valeera was Bronze 1 while the Arthas was Silver 5.

I think they just get shitted on so much that they think if they bitch first they won't get called out or can just assume it's not them. That or they just convince themselves they are the best.
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>>181888746
Im lost why single player rank is even a thing. Did no one think "hey this will just create a bunch of would be primadonnas that scream at the team and no one gets along because it's just 5 random tards smashed together by a MMR system."
Team rank makes total sense, but QM rank edition not so much. Hell I think they should have set it up 3v3 and 5v5 where you have to bring a full party, at least that would cut down on the toxicity of it all.
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Why does the Dragon Knight want to destroy the dragon-themed buildings in his own garden?
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>>181889746
They were built on top of his land
Basically they paved over a dragon filled volcano to make the garden
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>>181889746
why are you trying to apply logic to a blizzard game?
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>>181889746
>lore/logic
>in a moba
>a blizzard moba
nigga
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>>181889746
He likes to play Godzilla.
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>>181889746
If they're invaders, why don't they just destroy the shrines? Then there will be no more power trapped within the stones to unleash the Dragon Knight.
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>>181889746
The dragon makes it clear that he hates the garden and that this is actually his prison. He also makes it clear he's from a time where dragons ruled.
The announcer makes it clear that you're just there to free him when his power grows strong enough to do something.

Then garden of terror you can see the destroyed dragon just off of the map.
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>>181891809
Dragon knight vs. garden terror map when?
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>>181890501
it's not like the dragon knight gets to run free when you unleash it though
whoever controls the shrines gets to control the dragon knight
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How do I Genji?
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>>181893013
Mada mada
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>>181893013
Similar to how one plays greymane. be patient until you delete something with E->Q. If you can bait a giant reflect you can totally smash people but don't count on it.

Wait till CC's are used. X-strike is very good if you need burst on lower HP targets, Dragon blade is good if you need more sustained damage but can leave you very vulnerable things.

Keep in mind that X strike disjoints you and gives you a lot of movement, so you can X-strike -> deflect -> dash out.
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>>181893013
What >>181893730 said.
But remember.
X-Strike is the safe heroic.
Dragonblade is the good heroic.
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in what situation do you get lightning breath over apocalypse
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>>181893983
Against immobile teams, if your own team needs more damage and you don't have any real setup for apocalypse.

Lightning breath does a fuckton of damage, especially with its upgrade.
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>>181893013
Hang out and harass with autos on your backline until one of their squishies is low/out of position
Dive with e, spam q, deflect and bail as soon as they start converging on you, even if you don't pull off the kill
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>>181874910
>funnest hero
>not Alarak

That was rather disagreeable. Do not fail me again.
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>>181894278
He's the type of retard that uses "funnest" like it's a proper word or something. His opinion carries no weight.
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>>181885759
>Battle "1s+ buffers on everything and stop doesn't clear queue" Rite

I mean I get that WASD controls are cool but that game controls like fucking ass by those standards.
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>>181894434
It's not about the words, it's about not choosing THE HIGH LORD.
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>>181885759
What kind of retard wants WASD controls in a game like hots.
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>>181894685
What are you talking about? You press c to cancel.
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>>181894879
Somebody who don't think it's a good idea to use console controllers for FPS gaming... Which is basically the equivalent of hots controls.
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Post an image and try to guess the hero

Let's start off yes
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>>181894882
You press c to cancel a move in progress. However, for instance, if you're playing Raigon and you hit M2 in the middle of your space, and the person you're about to land on hits counter AFTER your space lands, your M2 goes off anyway and you're committed to it. Even fighting games with really generous input buffers and shortcuts don't do that shit.
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>>181895014
>Hurr I've literally never played a RTS game before, the controls are soooooo haarrrrrd lmao XD

Fuck off retard.
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>>181894879
My girlfriend, it's basically #1 reason she isn't playing this game
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>>181895058
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>>181895215
It's admirable that you're dating a quadriplegic anon, but you really shouldn't expect her to keep up with you in day to day life.

Are you going to ask her to start running marathons next?
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>>181895214
These aren't even RTS controls, they're botched RTS controls. As for example, stop doesn't stop, it just stops movement.

RTS controls only work for RTS games, too... When you're moving large armies, and fine control for units isn't necessary, or limited fine control.
Which is pretty much the opposite of what you want in a game where you only control one single character.

>inb4
>muh lost vikings
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who would make the best bearer for a hybrid skin? Diablo or Malthiel?
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>>181895693
You do realize current moba controls only requires one hand? Compared to WASD, which requires two hands.
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>>181895734
>RTS controls only work for RTS games
This is an RTS game anon.
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>>181895790
Tassadar
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>>181895961
It's not... How autistic are you?
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>tfw you spray every time someone misses a skillshot against you and you trigger them into making more mistakes
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>>181896536
Moba's are a subset of the RTS genre. Hots is built off of a fucking RTS engine. As was dota and dota 2, as is LoL.

Just because you don't control huge armies all the time doesn't mean its not a RTS.
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>>181896878
It's an ARTS, not RTS.
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>>181896748
based
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>>181897069
Distinction without a difference.
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>>181896748
The only problem with this is that I want to use other cool sprays but can't justify ever not using the confused Varian one.
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/r/ing the Jaina comparison between the one in Hearthstone and in Heroes of the Storm. Where she's all hostile versus literal mary sue back from the warcraft days.
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>>181897178
There's a huge difference.
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>>181896748
>tfw no all chat

I liked being able to ask people if they were turning on scripts when they moved under tower after I hit them with three skillshots in quick succession.
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>>181896536
>it's not an RTS at all
>>181897515
>"its not a real time strategy, it's an *action* real time strategy".
>It shouldn't have RTS controls cause its not a RTS

I'm not sure what's more retarded, you or your arguments. When you're not blindly contradicting better arguments, you're undermining your own or merely trying to shift the goalposts.

Learn to debate anon. Hots has RTS controls because it's an RTS, WASD controls sound completely moronic and would actively take away aspects of control from a great many characters (I couldn't even imagine trying to play tracer with WASD). Characters control just fine with point and clicks and they're needed functionality when applied to multi-unit characters like TLV, Samuro or Rexxar.
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>>181897219
officer dva is good too
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>>181897593
At the very least they should have all chat during loading and after the match.
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>>181898353
Yeah, but I want to use the cute Rag or Anub ones and I can't because they're not as annoying.
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>game on Towers of Doom
>Azmodan and Gazlowe on top lane
>Gaz vs Azmodan
>first fight at lvl 1 it's a draw and they kill each other
>next fight I interfere to make sure we keep top
>next six fights top are 1v1, Gaz goes top to get killed by Azmodan
>only tries to go to other lanes when the tower is being taken
>never just sticks with a hero, just 1v1 Azmodan
>end of match Azmodan gets MVP with 10 hero kills
>at least 8 of them are Gazlowe

I just didn't get it, yeah the first say 3 deaths of 1v1 I could see a new player not get that Azmo is a tank of a specialist, but after that? Player was either stupid or so salty he was determined to prove he was the better Specialist on the map, which he didn't and basically feed us a two lvl lead for most of the game.
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>>181898459
Wouldn't mind an optional, even opt-in all chat.

>during load-in
but do we have
the technology
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>>181898506
sounds like the team was stupid too unless Azm never took the top Tower.
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>At a specific level
>Tyrande heal heals for 693
>Tyrande basic attack heal heals for 481
>5 seconds is enough for 9-10 attacks
>heals 4.3-4.8k
>Over 5 seconds... 0-100 in under 5 seconds

>Somehow increasing 693hp into 901hp heal is more worth it.
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>>181898232
I don't know if you're a troll, or just really retarded.

RTS and ARTS are about as similar as tribes games and battlefield. Originated from same genre, but took extremely different paths, and now have virtually nothing in common.
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>>181898956
>I'm just going to assert that they're different again and offer no actual evidence or arguments, because rote re-assertion totally makes arguments more true!
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>>181899590
RTS = build buildings, produce units, and control armies.
The letters, or even the words, have literally no value in the genre definition.
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>>181899879
>RTS = build buildings, produce units, and control armies.

Except there are games that don't do building or producing units or controlling armies and they all still fit within the RTS genre. They may be part of a subgenre as well, but look at it like taxonomic ranking.

An "ARTS" is not distinct enough from a real time strategy to be an entirely separate of game.

In short, you are completely fucking wrong.
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>>181900347
laughin my ass off at that derpy fox, thanks mang
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Is Brightwing just a better Lucio at this point?
Or is Speed Boost more valuable than Polymorhp?
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>playing Gaz
>over extending
>Alarak comes to gank me
>all according to keikaku
>robo goblin + 3 turrets
>he's melting
>Rehgar runs to help him
>he starts melting too
>5 turrets
>double kill
>check their pockets
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>>181900347
I hope you die of cancer.
What is it you're trying to accomplish? To shit up a general, by acting like a complete retard?

Get off the internet.
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>>181900667
gaz is best husband
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>>181900612
Brightwing and lucio do pretty different things. Lucio has pretty strong healing on cooldowns, and is better at peeling (not counting emerald winds) or allowing allies to chase.

Brightwing has okay mitigation and cc and stronger radiant healing (albiet in a smaller area) and that global presence.

Lucio IMO is much more capable as a solo support.
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>>181900667
>playing gaz
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>>181900796
>Get off the internet.
No

>To shit up a general, by acting like a complete retard?
Hurr durr hots should have WASD controls lololol XD

>What is it you're trying to accomplish?
I didnt realize 4chan became a place of sensitivity and inclusiveness where we're not allowed to tell people they're both wrong *and* retarded anymore.
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>>181897593
The few custom games I've played with randoms on PTR has been non stop flaming and shittalking between both teams, to the point people are just standing still having a dick measuring contest

I'd rather not have all chat because I don't think the hots community could handle it
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Why is Tassadar not considered a specialist and now Rag is an Assassin?
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>>181901250
You're probably right, actually.

>the PTR
whew

>>181901276
labels are retarded but they don't really matter past
idk what is it like plat or diamond

hopefully
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>>181901276
why is medivh a specialist
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>>181901276
>Why is Tassadar not considered a specialist
Because specialists bend the rules of HotS or have extremely wierd unconventional playstyles. Tassadar doesn't do that, and his primary function is as a support. And yes there are a lot of similarities with medivh, but medivh still breaks more of the rules with his permanent birdform invincibility, his portals and his infinite hp short duration shield.

>now Rag is an Assassin?
Because the only 'rule-breaking' thing about rag is his trait, which he doesn't get to use all that often. Otherwise he's an extremely straight forward "Hit things and deal damage to kill them" assassin, his primary function is killing things, unlike a tank who exists to CC, Mitigate or help allies position, or a support who exists to correct mistakes and make teammates better at what they do, or a specialist who plays strangely / breaks rules or doesn't have the constant 'aggression' that a true assassin does.
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>>181901548
Because specialists are defined by breaking rules, having 'unconventional' playstyles, or not being able to project what 'aggression' they have forward (eg gaz, probius and to a lesser extent hammer are fucking horrible at chasing, but god help you if you walk into their prepared ground).
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>>181901276
Bliz's hero role classification is completely useless. As far as I'm concerned Rag is just a melee ranged mage with great waveclear and a good enough solo lane.
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>healer lanes the entire match
>goes for camps
>team loses 100% of fights because of this
why do people do this shit? play a fucking specialist if all you want to do is lane
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>>181902289
Rag is a Specialist in everything but name. His Lava wave alt is a lane clearer while his hammer is a stun lock, his D trait is completely defense/lane control built and his E key is a support key for himself or other heroes. Only his Meatball special W key seems remotely Assassin in nature.
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>>181903291
It stems from people's anxiety or refusal to communicate. The best thing to do is just communicate. You'd want the healer with the carry while the most capable solo solos (obviously). Everybody else is kind of flex and will have to fill soaking whenever possible.
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>play dps
>never any tanks

>play tank
>dps dont do shit

thanks for listening to my blog
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>>181903982
>dps dont do shit
This is why I don't fill support roles in draft if I think the dps pickers are retards.
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Gul'dan is so much fun.
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this game is absolute fucking shit
>ITS NOT YOUR TEAM'S FAULT YOU LOST!
FORCED 50 ISN'T REAL!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181904927
>pick Monstrosity
>lose game
>IT'S NOT MY FAULT REEEEEEE
You are the only constant, Abathur main.
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>>181903925
i usually ask them to join up and they don't listen, i literally don't understand how people think being useless is a good idea
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>>181904927
Did you take abathur after you had an azmodan locked in? If so you're part of the problem.
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>>181905204
>pick evolution with hat build
>lol you guys got a little extra damage instead of my essential hat buffs

>>181905598
he picked azmo second.
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>>181904927
Taz'Dingo always gets the Win'Go!
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>>181905793
>he popps tazdingo
>raynor just stands there, trading with him
FUCKING REEEEEEE
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>>181903982
>>181904110
and they always shit on the tank no matter what, I get pissed off when everyone else cries for a tank and then shit all over them when they do as demanded. I mean shit play the role that needs filled don't cry at others over it.
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>2 games out of master
>lose 14 of the next 20 games over two days
>only constant
>first pick nova
>diamond players btw haHAA

I don't really understand what's going on. Draft throw after draft throw, and maybe 20% of those games are feeders.

This game should be fun.
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>>181905701
Ultimate evolution is more than doubling the damage you'd get from a particular hero (especially good on something like raynor) or giving you another body to do things like CC or heal with. You can also use it to do things that your actual damage dealer cant (ie, chase after a healer) because it forces people to either waste a lot of damage and cooldowns on something that is going to go away anyways, or let you do what you want while they try to put damage on the 'real' bodies present.

It's better than the comparitively small buffs you give out with hat. And honestly against the enemy team you should have gone mines + evolution + some of the later locust talents.

Mines could be used to push and put some damage in on their very weak aoe healing, locusts punishes an enemy team that doesnt have any globals. Evolution dramatically strengthens your teams ability to teamfight.
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>>181904927
Beaten by draft. Lili is effectively immune to your entire team comp. Meanwhile Jaina and Zul'jin are free to do whatever the fuck they want. Varian is the most threatening person on your team. He is the one diving, he is the one creating engagements, he is the one with cc. All they have to do is get rid of Varian and you guys just lost all of your team's threat.
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>>181904110
>>181903982
DPS is the full of fucking retard magnet in EVERY SINGLE GAME
it doesn't fucking matter what it is, every moba, every MMO, the DPS role attracts the biggest fucking retards that play the game
every riven/yasuo/vayne player in lol is a fucking retarded 13 year old raging shitter that blames jg everytime they die.

every hunter/rouge/demon hunter in wow is a 12 year old retard that cried their way into the raid, then keeps dying instantly by very easy to dodge spells
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>me unga team bunga posters
when will they learn
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>>181904927
>playing Abathur when enemy team shits all over waves and can control team fights
>on Curse Hollows

Unless you were the first pick I have no understanding why you pick him. There are a good pile of always needed and useful heroes that can help you climb but aba isn't one of them if the enemy team is smart enough to look for you and your bug trail at the lanes.
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>>181906131
>that draft
good night my dude

>1 win from masters promo and get a GM Nova who dies 8 times and disconnects
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>>181904927
>abathur picker in sub-master ranked
>autistic
wow what a surprise
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>people that don't talk or at least hover picks in draft

nothing fills me with so much fucking dread, just say something so I know if I have to heal or tank because your ass goes last pick samuro
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>>181906131
get the fuck out of single league and work to find a good 5 man team for team rank.
you climb faster have more fun and cut out all this bullshit.
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>>181906665
>wait to the last second of draft timer
>LOGICAL DECISION
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>>181906665
It's why I only go team league now, cuts so much of that bullshit out after a few games where you find good players.
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>>181906665
>hover picks
oh yeah fells really good to know that your first 3 picks are li-ming, sylvanas and genji who feeds all game.
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here, misha!
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>>181907520
in fairness that's when you disconnect and try again
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>>181907590
cum, Misha~
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>>181906421
>>181906670
>>181906131
We actually just fucking won that game. How in the fuck. I don't even want to play this game anymore knowing I could be matched with the people on the other team, let alone the fucktard nova on mine.

Welcome to "diamond" hots
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>>181907638
>disconnect
>lose 600 points

um
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>>181908127
I think Diamond in Hots is weird because you'll get some guy who recently dropped from Grandmaster on your team as well as a guy who just won twice after being placed Diamond III

feels like a crapshoot but maybe I just haven't played enough

>>181907638
>dodging in hots
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>>181907520
I will take that over Nova, Illidan and Hammer
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>>181908469
thats QM, not HL.
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>>181906665
>filling
I hope you all don't actually do this
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>>181908136
not at the start during placement, that's why seeing the picks are so important.
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>>181909126
They only difference between QM and HL is that you will have a Healer and a Warrior. Maybe.
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Illidan serves as the Dark Titan's jailer. His sacrifice has ended the Legion. At long last, the Burning Crusade...is over.


Is he a good guy now?
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>>181910239
just wait until he feels the urge to betray someone again
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>>181909247
better than going into a game without a support or tank cause lol assassin main btw
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>>181910716
He kinda destroy himself with Sargeras
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>>181894879
i use wasd to pan my camera
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every time I think about buying genji I'm like "nah, they'll definitely nerf him soon"

I'm still waiting
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>>181910787
yeah, like death has ever mildly inconvenienced anyone from the warcraft universe before
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>>181910239
>the burning crusade is over
thank FUCK
tired of that shit
there's some irony there about illidumb becoming a jailor though
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>>181911748
He's shitposting, anon. Illidan literally just opened a wormhole to Argus in Azeroth's sky.
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>>181911919
>He's shitposting, anon
I'm not you retarded fuck this is from 7.3 and that pic is from 7.2.5.
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>>181911115
Get your things and leave my house at once. I don't have a son anymore.
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Has anyone got their rewards yet? It's not like there's more than 100.000 people playing this game.
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>>181910239
Only if he jails maiev with his bebis
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>tfw you're an ult
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>>181911486
Genji is reliant on Dodge. Blizzard doesn't particularly like removing talents. Go for him, he's actually fun, unlike most overbore. There is a chance they'll remove dodge and his winrate will go to ming levels and he'll turn into a situational pick, or, they'll buff his health slightly and remove dodge, which is what I hope they do.
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>tfw you soloqueue and wind up being coordinated in mounts

also this game lasted 38 minutes, FUCK haunted mines
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>>181914179
I strongly prefer Perfect Defense (deflect cooldown reduction) to Dodge. I disagree that genji is reliant on Dodge.
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Place your bets.
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>>181914656
Rightside. It is in the bag.
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>>181915661
Yup, was a stomp.
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>haunted mine
>we're losing team fights but got a keep
>enemy goes down the mine, we go straight for the core
>they literally farm down there until they get 100 skulls before going back to the defeat screen
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>>181914578
Then you are bad. He flat loses ten percent Winrate choosing that, arguably even more vs good players.
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Is Diablo viable? I've been messing with him for a bit, and I kinda like him but I've never taken him out in a real match before.
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>>181912427
He never was your son, cuck.
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>>181916818
>Is Diablo viable
He's one of the best tanks in the game. Behind Anub, Dehaka and maybe Arthas
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>>181916818
About the third... fourth? best main tank. You got Anub, and then Arthas and Stitches and Diablo are all around each other. Stuff like Dehaka and Varian I'm not counting since they can't main tank.
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>>181916818
Diablo requires a team that can follow up on his dives, and a map where he can pin someone's soft and weak body against a wall.
If those conditions can be met he's one of the best tanks in the game.
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>>181916818
She's alright.
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>get one of the sharkbite surfboard mounts in a chest
>open another chest a few days later
>legendary in it
>could be anything
>is the SAME FUCKING MOUNT

my luck with these chests have been solid though :3c
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>>181917186
Dehaka isn't a tank. He's a Nissan GTR.
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>>181860167
Too bad they only use it for things like pyroblasting the full hp varian with Uther on the side at the start of the team fight or vs iceblocks
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>>181842539
>devil's due
>regenerate 120% of your maxhp every time you tap fountain
>regenerate 36% over 5 seconds every time you pick up a globe
>this is somehow bad
if you're fighting under your own fort you can tap fountain, dive into 5 heroes, and come out full hp
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what if lunara looked like this?
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>give the enemy team anub genji and uther in their first three picks
Why do people draft like this?

I'll let you guess which hero was our first pick and then fed the entire game.
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>>181918719
I dont have to, we all know who betrayed you
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>>181918804
naturally
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>>181918667
What's that cutie from?
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>>181919375
Battlerite
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>>181919446
>20 bucks
>early access

not cute enough for that, but thanks mate
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>>181919525
There's a f2p weekend coming up next week and the game goes completely f2p soon
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is forced 50% real?
>>
how to vikings?
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>>181920293
No. Blizzard themselves have addressed it.
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>>181920338
split push and soak. make sure your team has a level advantage so they can win team fights without you.


Help with team fights and objectives when you can but always be soaking and advancing a lane
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>>181918667
Praise be to Cenarius that she doesn't.
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>>181920293
forced 50% is a meme you can blame all your losses on so you never have to actually accept responsibility for your own failures
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>>181923415
So forced 50% is teh new elo hell meme?
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death knight skins for the hearthstone heroes when?
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>>181923660
blizz is going crazy for the summer. They're goshdarn market science super jews.
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when are we getting le summer rewards
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>>181920293
Blizzard said that if you have a win streak the matchmaking will then force you into games where "your teammates and enemies are at the same level of mmr".
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>>181924000
summer rewards?
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I want all Russians, literally the entire country of Russia, to fucking die of leprosy.
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>>181924542
Chill out edgelord, they deserve containment but not extermination.
Just force them to play on Asia servers like the Asians they are, maybe they'll learn a thing or two from the gooks.
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>>181924542
Why are the Russians so bad at this game? All the exceptionally terrible players I ever saw in this game were Russians.
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>Elder god tier
Warrior/Melee mains

>High tier
Flex players that pick meta heroes

>Medium tier
Supports

>Low tier
Ranged assassins only

>Autism tier
Anyone who mains a single hero
Specialists

>Absolute degeneracy tier
Lili players
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>>181925495
>2017
>not being a flex player
LOL LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Why haven't any NA teams picked up Glogan yet? He's consistently in the top 5, so he must be pretty good.
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>>181925495
Autism tier and lower is anyone that uses a stealth hero that isn't Zeratul. You are not only telling us you're a chicken shit but you expect the fucking team to carry your kill streak.
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>>181924542
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>>181924542
Good luck, we have a lot of predcessors of you before and there will be much more. Mother Russia will stand high and tall.
>Leprosory Vice Admiral coming next
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>>181926187
also, there's a lot more dangerous TB in russia than leprosy
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>>181925576
That's almost everyone that play rank. Even in GM you got people going "lol I can't play support" there MMR is a fucking joke
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>>181925495
>mfw I pretty much only play Genji and Varian
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>want to play tlv
>one lane immediately gets pushed in and so i can't splitsoak as good
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>>181924153
"as you win more, matchmaking puts you against more difficult opponents to reflect your 'rising skill' in its eyes. Ideally the goal is that everyone should reach a level where they are facing opponents of skill equal to them and maintaining a 50% win/loss ratio. For some people this will be in grandmaster, For others it will be bronze 5".

The matchmaker doesn't try to go "LOL LETS MATCH THIS PERSON WITH A BUNCH OF FUCKING RETARDS AND AFKS JUST TO MAKE HIM LOSE". If your 'skill' improves because you're winning more often, you will both get better teammates and tougher opponents.
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>>181927970
>The matchmaker doesn't try to go "LOL LETS MATCH THIS PERSON WITH A BUNCH OF FUCKING RETARDS AND AFKS JUST TO MAKE HIM LOSE".

i don't believe you
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>>181928072
It *happens* sometimes, but mostly because the matchmaker has a desperate need to find a match for other people. Not because it has it out for you.

This is typically only common very late at night / early in the morning, especially in lower population game modes.
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>>181919525
It's early access but it's basically done, buying it now is basically buying the Smite Ultimate God Pack
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>playing TLV in QM since they're free
>Sky Temple
>have a vikang in each lane
>teammates insist on spreading in the lanes instead of roaming as 4 and enjoying the massive XP gain
>am silenced so can't tell them to stop being stupid
>they even eat the regen globes when my vikings aren't in range
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>>181927970
>>181928072
You ever think it's just luck of the draw? Last night we had a game where our Malth died 17 times and our Soyna died 9. We won. Why? Because me and my friends ran a cho'gall+Auriel and knew how to deal with there team where we have played most heroes a few times. That mal and Soyna got a win they shouldn't have and that's what causes the disprortion is the hidden MMR doesn't follow your play abilities, just your wins. Also you have so many players that will just run with a fresh hero they have never played in QM that can really fuck things up.
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>>181929714
>being silenced
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>>181929915
yes I'm silenced 75% of the time since the current season started because people report me for telling them not to pick Nova or banning Malthael when some due in third/last pick prepicks it
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>>181930062
That's not how it works. You get silenced when you go full retard and start slurring or worse at your teammates
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>>181930062
>using hero league chat below masters
>ever
Pings only.
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>>181930249
This. Most have you muted anyway
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>>181930062
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>>181930190
Indeed,ive been abusive for years and i was never silenced
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>>181924153
Play with friends and you will quickly see this isn't the case.
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>>181930190
no you get silenced when you reach a report threshold
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>>181930362
You were likely never reported for it. Blizzard is very 0 tolerance on "hate speech" but you have to be reported first.
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>>181930414
I can tell you this isn't the case because 1/3rd+ of the community would have been silenced by now because you have piles of people that report over nothing. I have two dick friends that just report all the players of the match win or lose, friendly or rude, they just report everybody because "it's funny"
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>>181930497
Sure i wasnt.
I called Gazlowe a kike yesterday too.
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>>181930362
So you admit your a shitbag but not this time?
Shit man I hope you play better than you bullshit.
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Do we trust pic related anons?
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>>181930652
Another anon,simply stating ive never been silenced for talking shit unlike that apologizer.
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>>181927970
matchmaking always gives me afkers, dcers, level 10s, BRs, subhuman garbage when im due for my forced 50 spanking. never do i ever feel like im fighting better opponents but instead im fighting the stupidity of my own team
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>>181929714
>playing a very teamwork needed hero with a bunch of fandoms and not friends
I both love and hate retards like you. When you are on the enemy team you are easy wins. But faggots like you just lead to a more toxic community because rather than make friends or at the very least talk over with a team before a match what you want to do you go in to random groups and just expect them to play like you want. Quit the game, I want a better community.
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>>181930796
There's a good chance that you're every bit as bad as them.
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>>181930796
Yet you never get smart enough to make friends to avoid most of those issues.
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>>181930910
im not, i perform the best in most of my matches on my team but sometimes i do notice when the other team is working together and playing far better than us. it's just MOST of the time i feel cheated from all the nigger BRs and people who refuse to work as a team (healer off laning 24/7 despite being asked to help etc)
mind you this is quickmatch experience, ive been playing unranked and ranked more and those are far more enjoyable
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>>181930706
>First half of 2017
>It's July
Also Kel'thuzad is never coming, then people would have nothing to wait for
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>>181931085
Just gotta wait until August
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>>181930706
>Junkrat
Plz, no more overshit heroes
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>>181932252
They're going to releast at least 10-12 so that there can be an OW daily.

>Junkrat
>Ana
>Reinhardt
>Winston
>Reaper
>Hanzo
>Doomfist
>Mei
>Sombra

I can see all being added to at least get the OW daily started.
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>>181932680
OW is only lacking a specialist. Once we get that there will probably be a daily.
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>>181932741
symmetra confirmed
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>>181932680
>OW daily
>All OW heroes are 10k
>Implying I'll ever spend that much on Overshit
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>get kicked out of the loading screen
what the fuck do I do, I tried closing and opening the client but keep getting this when I try to rejoin
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If there's such thing as a some sort of shadowban-like punishment by some sort of account flag to give you shit teammates, i'm definitely under it
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>>181932926
>playing QM
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>>181932926
The real question here is did Varian go Arms or Fury?
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>>181933015
I don't know he was dead of the majority of the game. Probably smash because he dived in every time,
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I miss being proud about my black mount recolor and my mastery skin that I spend a month worth of gold on. Even grinding key fragments to unlock a worthless skin shard in league feels more statisfying than 2.0s reward system.
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>>181933302
well it help that you could say you actually work for it. Now it's just "wow look I farm enough chest/shards that I got this cool skin!"
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>those level 0 players doing brawls
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Say llama, ash all of Norway?
Salami.
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>>181933717
>Going against 1000+ players
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>>181933717
Are you surprised? I've been seeing a pile of low level players since they started the contest
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draw today fellow casuals
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>Valeera and vikings in same team
That was fair.
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>>181933717
Good? It's better than them shitting up QM and a way for them to try heroes they don't own, also it literally doesn't matter and is a joke mode.
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>>181932926
evidence:
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>>181934951
>>181932926
Their team looked equally as baf you mongoloid
>i have highest damage therefore i am not bad unlike ME BUNGA TEAM
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>>181934951
literally fallen 500 mmr from this stuff

>muh mmr
directly tied into me losing the majority of the games.

>>181935025
what do you want me to post to prove i'm not a shit player? the mvp screen?
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new brawl is dogshit
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>>181935102
A win screen and not a blog about me bunga
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>>181935119
>new
I think you are even newer here.
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>>181935156
You can't solo carry in this game. You need a team to at least tank for you.
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>>181935102
How about you show you over all stats?
I call people like you out on the game for that shit and you shut right the fuck when I want to look at your statistics screen.
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>>181935282
Explain how GM players have tanked to bronze 5 and climbed back to GM multiple times then.

You can absolutely carry, but you need to be actually good and not just "muh damages" good.
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>>181935382
Well it's usually accompanied with minimap awareness and actually doing something (not just standing around) but I'm the only person who can see lane pushes or the enemy team doing boss on the minimap and no matter how hard I ping, they won't do shit. (If i type, we lose harder. I only rage at /vg/ now)
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>>181935472
Sure you are bro. Forced 50 am I right guys??? Xd
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>>181935574
>50%

One could hope. You haven't lost 10 games in a row by your team doing boss with 5 enemies up and getting swept. Despite my pleading, they do it every time. I am forced to help every time. We all know how the story goes. I lost every time. That was the beginning of the season.
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>>181935382

I've played with so many fucking "i pwn hard but itz my dum team holdin me back" retards in /hotsg/. Every fucking time they fail at literally fucking everything.

>don't go for kills at mid to open game
>rotate alone and get ganked
>don't get merc camps at proper times (siege at 2 on cursed hollow/bruisers before shrine/immortals on diablo maps)
>ping boss immediately after curse instead of pushing with curse then boss after, losing all curse value, and subsequently losing boss value
>playing shit heroes in shit spots
>playing shit bronze builds (this bronze general fucking LOVES Q/AA build valla and orb build li-ming, on literally every fucking map every time)
>turning in gems alone on Tomb only to get ganked
>not splitting 4-1 on braxis

Every single one of these things I've seen shitters from /hotsg/ do (because many of them are my friends). Every fucking time. But it's just a magical coincidence every time. They insist their orb Li-Ming build "pwns." No one at GM does. No pro does. But the bronzies. The /hotsg/ kiddes. Man that Li-Ming orb build. "Go orb build bro" literally every fucking time people ask about Li-Ming hero.

It's fucking pathetic. This general fucking sucks at the game and it's fucking irritating.
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>>181935810
I've been killed more allied auriels than enemies
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>>181935810
Nah we are all GM #1 players trapped in silver man. Fucking forced 50, my team isn't on my level thats why i can never win. Just like everyone else, right? Right??
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>>181935810
I see Paki decided to shitpost here again because nobody's listening to his woe-is-me-I'm-so-good rants.
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>>181935945
Tell me exactly how I can win. I seem to be at minimum the second best performing person on my team, but I still lose the majority of games. It's either due to late game chokes (allies dying 1v5 alone) or just not contesting objectives in addition to not quite understanding how do mechanics works
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>>181935187
sorry i touched a nerve there buddy but it's still the new brawl
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>>181936158
Stop playing QM
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>>181936087
That's not me senpai. I'm not even sure that guy wrote it or if it's just copy pasta. I'm just trying to figure a way to control for shitty teammates and increase my winrate.
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>"You'll never make it if you keep blaming your team instead of-"
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>>181935810
>this bronze general fucking LOVES Q/AA build valla
What's wrong with Q/AA build Vallas? Not every Valla game calls for Multishot, and that also assumes your teammates are actually capable of making the Multishot build work.
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>>181936213
I'm sorry. QM is where legends are made. QM is the bread and butter of this game. Unranked and competitive are just tertiary modes to satisfy the lesser people who need a safe environment to play the game. QM is the only thing that matters and if you say otherwise, you're just a weak shitter who needs bans and drafting to play the game. QM masters can beat a HL master any day.
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>>181935810
>multishot valla
>requires you to be on 10 hatred to do any damage
>Q build bad
i dont know about aa but you're full of shit as far as Q goes
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>Summer event
>not a single bikini cutie
is Blizzard event trying
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>>181936158
My guess is that your mechanical skill is lacking. 100k damage against a mostly melee team as Kael'thas isn't all that good. Also, play someone who puts stronger pressure on the map, like someone who can push lanes or take camps, or 1v1 decently or solo lane. You can do all the inconsequential damage you want and never die, but if YOUR damage doesn't lead to kills secures or structures destroyed or objectives won, then you are just as bad as me bunga team.

It's about timing, following up, setup, position, map play, micro level play, the works. Stop getting caught up in why it's never your fault, and accept that it actually probably was and DO something about it. Learn obscure techniques and unused talents and their strengths. Understand when to take which ult against what team and why. Learn what heroes you should be grouping up with on your team, which ones to avoid, when to go in, why not to go in, when soaking a lane of XP is better than feesing into objective, etc.

Every game needs to be a learning experience to make you better, or you nees to stop caring about getting better and just play for fun. There is no middle where "I think I am good enough and here's why my team is holding me back". It's you, always you, even when it's not.
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>>181936754
>Summer event
>DISGUSTING stitches skin with 10 pallet swaps
>Changed pants with shorts on Tychus and called it a skin with 10 pallet swaps
>Boring shorts with 10 pallet swaps

Nice
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>>181936775
>Stop getting caught up in why it's never your fault, and accept that it actually probably was and DO something about it
On a team with 5 people it's actually unlikely it was your fault though. Sure it could have been your fault but it is far more likely it was 1 of the other 4s fault.
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>>181936451
>die just as much
>me unga damage tho
laffin
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>>181936963
>Stop getting caught up in why it's nit your fault
>Actually, this is why it's probably not my fault
:thinking:
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>>181936981
10 and 8 are more than 5, you moron.
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>>181937258
5 is still almost a third of the match dead fuckboi. You got slammed very slightly less hard than bunga team probably because you gave up and went to soak lanes at some point during important shit.
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>>181937182
It doesn't help you get better when you assume you are the reason you lost when it in fact was the support not healing when they should have. The best thing to do is to go back and look at your replays and see what you could have done better without assigning any blame.
>>
The whole replay system is shit in this game, as it was in SC2
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>>181937389
It actually does. If you look at every missed skillshot as a lost fight then you'll start trying to learn how to hit them better.
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>>181937410
I would imagine so since it's the same engine.
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>>181937373
No, 5 deaths from 35 is one-seventh, not one-third. Fucking kids these days.
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>>181937470
Statistically speaking it is unlikely it was your fault and assuming it was just drags your mood down and makes you play worse. Just go back and watch your replays and look for things you could have don't better.
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>>181937542
Depends on when you died. If they were all early deaths then it was shorter, if they were all late then much longer. Still, anything more than 3 is feeding regardless of what it was related to bunga team.
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>>181937542
>can't read
A third of the MATCH.

aka. time spent dead
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>>181937635
>any more than 3 is feeding
aren't you a big brain
>>
>>181937628
Tilting is real. I actually think blaming your team tilts more than blaming yourself, unless you are suicidal or depressed or something, which may very well be the case in these generals.
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>>181937754
I can gaurentee that at LEAST two of those deaths went a little something like
>respawn
>immediately leave from spawn to lost fight or non-visioned area
>instantly died after pushing some buttons
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>>181937754
Given that the game in question was a 10 minute loss, it's probably right.
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>>181937770
Blaming yourself causes you to become overly cautious. Blaming your team causes you to become overly aggressive. An overly cautious valla is just as bad as an overly aggressive uther.
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>>181938260
Playing QM makes you underestimate your teammates because chances they will clutch save you are mediocre at best
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Why are people in shitter leagues so afraid to push the core at level 16-20+ after a won teamfight? they'd rather take merc camps on the other side of the map which obviously do nothing than end the game right there
>>
Tyrande buff when?
>>
>>181938886
Because they arent used to going for the core and assume its harder than it is.
When Grubby goes in Grandmaster half the games are over around lvl 16
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Malthael is hard :-(
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>>181938983
this
where are the hot pictures of tyrande?
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Man d.vas win rate has tanked in master.
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This was my promotion game out of bronze. A fitting end.
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How do I use Abathur's mines effectively? I can handle just about everything else but can't seem to get any value out of the mines.
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>>181938886
The shield probably scares people away.

It really doesn't help that nobody knows how much HP anything other than their own hero has so you can't even say "Hey it's only X HP, just whack it for 20 seconds." So people only bother when they're desperate or cocky or feel extra safe.
>>
>>181939405
They didn't draft a healer? LOL

>>181939573
Mines value comes from slowing down rotations. But them between lanes on common pathways. For example, on sky temple, put them between the boss and their siege giant camp. Enemies coming down to kill your bottom laner or help with temple phase will be dismounted and you'll see them coming.
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>>181939706
>They didn't draft a healer? LOL
Given that shitters need to actually own the heroes before being able to pick them, they probably just didn't have any.
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>>181939405
Did you end in bronze on purpose?
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>>181939706
>didn't draft a healer
>Medivh - 15,078 healing/shielding
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>>181938886
In QM with no healers?
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>>181940232
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>>181923660
>that Jaina
Unf
>>
I just tried Auriel, after i has asked how do i play her. Thanks for your advices!
Shes awesome, if you have reliant assassin. Gul'dan, Raynor, Valla is just raping qm with her. Had good LiMing once, and bomb-KT was good too. lvl 1 heal + lvl 16 quest is so magnificient, but tendig to delay heals, ehich is bad.
>>
>>181940531
Try the 7 CDR with 16 AS or AP
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>>181940531
When you're in a fight you should pretty much be healing on cooldown, only maybe delaying to line up a better aoe. Usually the CDR talent on heal is pretty good on her.
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>>181940497
>There must always be a Lich Queen
>>
>>181939638
>xul on the minimap
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>>181940687
>>181940497
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6423427/1/Frostblood
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>>181939876
Sadly not. Dropped from Gold 5 last season to Silver 4 due to some very bad placement games, then I went straight to Bronze 1. Currently my HL wr is at like 45%, times are rough these days.
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>>181940859
You sound like a terrible player
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>>181941074
why were they filming?
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>>181940531
Usually they 16 quest you take because you have someone like Cho'gall, or a really good alarak who fills your hope instantly.
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>>181941172
Because it was staged you twit
>>
Why is there no all chat in this game?
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>>181942306
why would you ever want to speak to someone?
>>
>>181942357
>not wanting to trashtalk the enemy team after you dominate them
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>>181942424
>wanting to get trashtalked by the enemy team after they dominate you
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>>181942424
That's why it doesn't exist
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>>181942506
Then I can direct my hate at them instead of my team
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>>181940531
I once had a Chromie who landed every single one of her abilities constantly. I was full constantly.
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>>181942506
>getting dominated EVER
is it shitter hour already?
>>
How's Illidan?

I got his spectre legendary skin from a chest.
>>
>>181942967
Incredible hero in the right circumstances. Unfortunately all of Genji and Malthael's counters counter him even harder so he doesn't see much play.
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>>181942967
Very support dependent,everything he does Genji does better.
Imagine more mobile Butcher with less sustain.
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>>181943150
>>181943169

I should probably mention I play quick match only.

How is he there?
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>>181943259
Because you won't have a support usually (and neither will the enemy) mileage will vary.
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I really really want a retro next.... cmon Blizz..
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>>181943439
we haven't had any warcraft heroes for a while

expect 6 warcraft assassins in a row
>>
retribution paladin assassin when?
no females of any kind please
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>>181943259
If you play alone with no support expect problems.
Brightwing, Genji, Malth, Lunara...alot of problems.
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>>181943831
>no females
literally the only reason to play video games
>>
>>181943831
>doesn't want waifus
Why do you even play video games?
>>
>>181943831
actually I changed my mind
make it a multiclass paladin that can be either retribution or protection
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>>181824993
>nipples aren't censored
>>
Maiev
Kelthuzad
Blackthorne
Reinhardt
Sarlac
Tomator
Fang
Scorch
Vashj
Mengsk

can we all agree?
>>
>>181944236
one of the level 13 talents should be invuln, reduced cast hearth, right?
>>
like NEW THREAD:

migrate whenever bitches :)

>>181944570
>>181944570
>>181944570
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>>181944492
Innkeeper
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>>181944625
>starting a new general 15 posts before the limit on a dead game dead thread
LUL
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>>181945225
just migrate mate not a big issue
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>>181944469
>nobody cared
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>>181888746

>Falstad dies like a fucking idiot once
>Types in chat "I'm fucking done" and proceeds to walk down mid and feed for the rest of the game
>This demotivates Auriel so she stays top lane for the rest of the game right clicking and dying
>Cassia went afk
>Pretty much can't do shit with Dehaka now
>Lose 200 points irregardless of how I performed

Fun stuff really.
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>>181944625
kek
>>
WC
RETRO
OW
!
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>>181945730
>irregardless
Are you trying to trigger me?
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>>181946582

Shut the fuck up petty autist
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>>181950859
Downvoted kappa
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>>181930414
the chat is logged ya dingus. You don't get silenced just from reports.
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>>181957945
Not unlike WoW I'm pretty sure there's an automated system in place. X reports in Y time.

>always play with chat off
>get silenced
>haha what
>submit ticket
>they check logs
>see nothing
>remove silence

Although I doubt this'll always work.
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