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OBEY
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>>181812407
first for discord
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>You will never die with Rowen in battle and let your gf at home, waiting for you.
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Burn lunapedos
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>>181812613
I wish I had hair like that.
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Gimme an Oz DShift deck.
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Umbraniggers
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>get to 7k points with Neutralspawn
>get so fucking tired of playing the mirror
>desperately try to make anything else work
>fall down to 5k
>start playing spawn again
>realize what a shitty fucking dumpster fire this game has become as I reach 7k points again
>uninstall
It could've been you, Shadowverse. You were the chosen one. I wish your designers had taken better care of you.
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>you brick with 4PPs
>your opponent curves
Every fucking time.
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>>181812682
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/3?hash=1.3.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.66NA2.66NA2.66NA2.6Dy_y.6Dy_y.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.5-gkk.5-gkk.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.6HqJw.6HqJw.6HqJw.65CDA.65CDA.62XK8.62XK8.62XK8.66J0Q.66J0Q.66J0Q.62bTS.6Hs1I.6Hs1I.62Uta.62Uta.62Uta.62ZmY.62ZmY.62ZmY.5-iRo.62Zm4.62Zm4.62Zm4

Parachan is using it on his stream right now.
https://www.openrec.tv/live/MUfhjWZWw47
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Post bullying
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>>181813150
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>>181813083
whats the point of golem assault without a bunch of 2dmg amulets
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>>181812682
i dont know how i feel about this image
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>>181813283
It's 4PP: Spellboost cards in your hand twice and summon a 3/3 with ward.
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>>181813283
Helps for lethal and they'll become 1 cost anyway with Oz. He said using the amulets doesn't help since they don't spellboost either.
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B A L A N C E D
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>>181813065
Didn't some guy in here get GM with some shitty rune deck? Maybe you're just bad anon if you can only climb with blood
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>>181813641
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Why does Cygames think a turn 4 sage commander is okay?
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new roach destroys blood holy shit AND it's fun to play
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>>181813065
>suck at the game
>can't think of any counter-meta decks to play
>lose
>blame game

Nice.
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I gotta ask. Has anyone ever curved all the way to Alice perfectly? No wait I take it back. Has anyone ever gotten Alice on the field while other followers are still alive?

Either I have the shittiest luck ever or:
>Curve but no Alice
>Alice but janky ass hand that can get removed easily

Like do you have to try and mulligan for her or something? I have not gotten Alice in my hands for the past few games.
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>Luminous Knight
>2pp 2/1
>Evolve only gives allies +1/+0 until the end of your turn
>Evolve effect comes with a +1/+1 stat tax

>Actress Feria
>2pp 2/2
>Evolve gives allies +1/+1 permanently
>Evolve gives full +2/+2 stats

Defend this.
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>>181814000
I get a powerful alice curve every 2/3 games and win off that alone
Works reliably for me
Try mulligan away 2 drops to reduce the odds of having more than 1 two pp play
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>>181813820
Because neutral cards are bad
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>>181814087
Luminous knight is also a super shit card nobody played until it got bundled with Luminous Mage.
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>>181814087
you have to play neutrals and neutrals are bad cards, which is why a combination of unica, grimnir, or grimnir were in every deck pre-WoD :^)
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>>181813652
There was no proof that he didn't spam a 'tier 1' deck and just played rune for the last match.

>>181814000
In the Blood vs Blood or Blood vs Neutral matchup, it's extremely easy to maintain a board state of 2 followers by the end of your turn 3 and have them on an empty board if you are going first. You could probably flowchart the blood mirror. It's more complicated if you're second but if your opponent is sub 5k you should be able to pull the same thing off most of the time
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>>181813383
please help me with the moral implications of saving this image. i really really like oz and her smug but i dont like lewding characters and she has hardly any art
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>>181813918
>roach
>fun
you are as muhc cancer as Leukemia
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>>181812613
grim. the fate ofthe gf certainly sounds better

>>181812641
like isabella or like kyle?
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>>181814236
t. abyssfag
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>>181814309
meme Forest actually
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Sword sleeper hits for me this expac are Old man and old woman, officer timmy, and white ridge.
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>>181814087
that's why it wasnt played till luminous mage made it into a token with a free evo

also it buffs all followers not neutrals only
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What if SV had a card like this
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>>181814231
what's lewd about panties?
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Actress should be 3PP or stay 2/2 after evo

Alive is way too overpowered in stats, effect and price
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>>181814365
Officer timmy? That card never works for me
Replaced him with fangblades again and doing way better now
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>>181814237
Either as long as the former comes with some kind of time reversal shit that makes me born as a girl.
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>>181814443
Officer timmy sticks for me where the other 8 drops never stick. He's won me a few games just by virtue of not dying.
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>>181814462
otherwise they would think you are a fan of heavy metal, i got it (:
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>>181812091

>>the meta is good, though
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>>181814087
>pop-up card with pantsu
Would buy.
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>>181814370
>What is DShift
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Runecraft follower
5pp
3/3 -> 4/4
Fanfare: Put a copy of the last spell you played into your hand
Evolve: Put a copy of the last spell you played into your hand
Spellboost cards would have their costs reset e.g Dshift copies would be 18.
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>>181813083
>he keeps losing to blood
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>>181814434
isnt that a given
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>>181814087

>unzips
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>>181814640
dunno, everybody wears some underwear

well, except dark general who likes belts instead
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>>181814365
Give sword a 4 pp amulet that gives officers unlimited evos. Then I would use those cards.
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>>181814703

Dark General is clearly wearing black and teal-striped pantsu, you perv.
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sooo, free vials?
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>>181814589
Ye, let's make Levi even more ridiculous. As if rune doesn't have more than enough burn damage now with young Levi and Oz. Also, according to the card designs this expansion, it should be 4/4 with full evo stats and have a 3 unconditional face damage.
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>>181814865
>pasties
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>>181815010
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>>181815045
>Implying you wouldn't eat them while she was wearing them
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>>181815084
>dark general's
no thanks, I have decent taste
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Anyway to edit what language certain cards use?
Certain cards are really nice in jp but others are absolute trash.
I don't want all cards in jp or all cards in
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>>181815163
Hey, I don't judge if you swing that way, it's perfectly natural.
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>>181815163

I would die for those hips.
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>>181815084
i want my blood to splatter dark general as she rips my stomach open
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>>181815163
>not liking her cute horns

>>181815059
if you were a tove, would you fuck a tove, if you were another tove?
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I can't wait for Phoenix Roost to come back.
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>>181815489
I don't like the generic face and eyes, there are much better waifus in Bloodcraft
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>>181815319
you want to have fat hips?
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So looks like T2 drafts now have 4 neutral picks which come round every 6 picks
The first and last picks are golds/legos
So it's safe to assume that each deck will have 2-4 legos and 8 neutrals minimum?
Can anyone confirm/deny this?
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>>181815596
Kill yourself discord
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>>181815587
<- best waifu
she can take it long

>>181815658
nyaow

or as phantom cat says - nya-ha-ha
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didnt really gain any mp today but i feel like i understand certain matchups better. maybe i gained a little bit. each of my play sessions seem to result in streaks, either a big win streak or big loss streak
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>>181815596
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>>181815725
>he isn't grandmaster yet
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>>181815725
life is real! life is earnest! life is streaky!
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>>181815764
uh
fuck
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>>181815764
delet
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>>181813924
Tell me then, what counters Neutral Spawn?
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>>181815929
mutagenic bolt?
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>>181815929
Anti-spawn haven
Oz rune
NutDraw Elana Dragon sometimes
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Nowadays all the board clear can kill fairies. I mean yeah you have to deal damage to all followers to qualify as board clear and forest had problem with angelic barrage since the beginning. However now fairies are just irrelevant. They are often more of a hinder than a help since they eat up a slot on your field. Maybe we should make use of the fairies' death to make forest more viable? Something like an amulet which summons a 1/1 forest spirit with rush every time a fairy is dead?
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>>181815929
Just winters caprice bro
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>>181816092
>Nowadays all the board clear can kill fairies.
where was there a board clear that couldn't kill fairies?
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>>181813150
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>>181815929
Off the top of my head, Khawy fucks over neutral spawn pretty hard if they don't curve into it, though you may need some death's breath's and other wards to hold off the first one if they do and you're turn 2.

Haven also does a good job, that new card that prevents more than 3dmg at a time + random removal amulets. Lots of options there.

Sword if they can get Roland low enough cost or otherwise pressure out blood turns 1-5 using Cinderella/Alice stuff.

Rune has some options with mutagenic and snowman. Dirt has some good options with ward and such.

If Forest can get its fairy driver engine going it can outpressure blood, not to mention returning it to hand over and over.

Not too sure what Dragon can do since I don't keep it on my radar much.

Also anyone with a Evo Wandering Bard on turn 4 safe behind a ward.
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>>181816092
also
>Maybe we should make use of the fairies' death to make forest more viable? Something like an amulet which summons a 1/1 forest spirit with rush every time a fairy is dead?

fairie dragon :^)
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>>181816169
Exactly. At least 1/1 stats actually mean something back in the days. Now everyone have overstated followers so fairies need something new to compete with them.
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>>181815897

Don't be ashamed of the hips that god gave Vampy.
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>>181816092
Still advocating that Fairies take up only half a board slot.
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>>181816045
I cannot believe Dirt Rune, even running multiple Mutagenic Bolt got a strong matchup against Spawn Neutral.

It seems like an absolutely fair matchup where I'dd rather not even go for the spawn plan, but just win through throwing down Scarlet Sabreur, and whatever neutrals. Which happens all the time.

Mayve just my list is strong against burn with Alucard + 2 Diabolic Drain.
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>>181816271
i didn't know the god created vampires
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>>181816269
meantime goblin leader is 1/2 for 3pp
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>>181816214
If you are thinking about what decks got a high winrate against spawn decks?
I think Dirt Rune is itty bitt favoured against them, but weaker against all other.
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>>181816343

Vampires ain't nothing but mammals, anon
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>>181816442
The questions was 'what counters', so I just gave some potential techs/outs for different crafts. I can't say it's going to beat up every abyss every time, but at least it gives you tools to use against it. Abyss is mad strong, but that just means most decks will need to account for it in how they're building themselves. When the enemy is predictable you can plan against it. Just wish they didn't also decide to grace blood with fuck-off legit out of hand plays like Big Knuckle and Sabreur.
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>>181816552
y-you mean vampy lactates?
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>>181816072
When Neutral Spawn is 50%+ of the ladder, how come "Anti-spawn haven" are not considered Tier 0?

I doubt it's even favoured if Blood is on play. And even then the overall matchup can't be that strong, or I should see a lot more play.
Maybe I'm wrong and it'll take of in a little while, though.
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>>181816275
How about fairies can stack on top of another fairy? Then we can have infinite scaling fairy blob.
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>>181816679
it can catch in a week or so though, like daria overcame aggro blood in a few weeks
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>>181816679
Spawn is 35% of the ladder
That deck keels over to everything else, which is 65% of the ladder
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This is one of the first times I've watched the meta "fixing" itself on its own, however it's still cancerous because it all revolves around 1 card.
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>>181816892
Is it Tove?
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>>181816762
nah it's 2nd best for a reason. not a deck in the world with snow white/march hare/themis and a pile of curates is going to keel over easy
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Nerf Yurius
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I'm so horny
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>open openrec
>check on how those streamers get to GM
>blood
>blood
>blood
>unfollow
So much for "skill"
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>>181817283
>Watching other men play your videogames for you
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>>181817258
t. dark general
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Just fucking bump spawn's cost to 10 and remove Bapho's cost reduction.
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It's working?
This is such a weird deck, feels like a very highrolly deck
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>>181816678

Even bloodkin nurse their young, anon.
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In your experience what is the best Spawn counter? Neutral Haven?
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>>181813150
No, I'm not running the neutral package if this if anyone is going to ask.
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>>181817283
F-f-f-uck you, there is a certain kind of delicacy to play Neutral Spawn at 100% efficiency.
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>>181817550
From my experience playing Spawn Blood, Neutral Haven really fucks me up. Teatime into Garuda is extremely scary, forcing me to delay Baph/Spawn or eat shit
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>>181817639
Yeah, gotta be skillful enough in going first and curving out with topdecks right
you show them bloodwagoner
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>>181817616
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>>181817508
I mean the cards you played looks like cards every other class plays, nothing weird with them.
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Time to go back to HS.
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>>181817712
Then, explain my 60% mirror winrate.
2 Alucard, 0 Diabolic Drain
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>>181817739
Thing is, the deck has 2 cards that rely on having a hand of neutrals so if you can't chain Witches, your hand will dry out and you won't be able to proc Hectors and such
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>>181817850
Toast deck
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Help me improve this

I figured F. Dragon would work out due to the fairies cuz even with 3 fairies dying a 3/4 for 2 is pretty great. Goblin Mage can search for it as well so its easy access.

I feel like Alice has a hard time just fitting in and doesn't generally work out unless I play Looking Glass early.
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>>181814589
there's no need to clarify that spellboosts would be reset. since it's a new card, it's not spellboosted
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>I hate this meta!
>...one more Carabosse vengeance game.
>It's 6 am in the morning again.
Me since expansion dropped.
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>>181818302
I can't stop experimenting with Oz in various Rune decks. Side note: Conjuring Dirt doesn't work very well and it makes me sad.

I'd rather uninstall than use anything with the neutral engine, animated Alice be damned.
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>>181817787
i prefer dinos desu and not even that made me come back to such abhorrent game
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>>181817850
the deck is being pilotted by the dumbest human beings on earth. i have never seen such misplays as in the past 5 days, and i've spammed games at the start of the last 3 expansions. thanks for doing your part to kill a game on its last legs though
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Can anyone give me a quick rundown on the meta. I know neutral blood isn't top dog anymore
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>>181818574
sure.
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25501
I need a concede
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>>181818523
ur welcom
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>>181818072
I'd just drop her - Alice isn't worth running when you'll only hit 1 card on curve. Don't run Aerin - Hector is probably better since it comes out earlier, has a better impact on board and sets up for an uncontested BnB. I'm pretty sure that's with Alice though. Some anons have been having success with Arriet for 18 damage on turn 7.
I'd drop Fairy Dragon for roach, it'll end up being more useful.
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DICKS
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>>181818574
Neutral rune is tier 1 now
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>>181818726
Thanks Rowen!
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>>181818735
Sounds good, I'll give Hector a try. Is this deck normally just very inconsistent?
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>midrange shadow is dead they said

?
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>>181818574
>I know neutral blood isn't top dog anymore
take your meds bro
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All I see are people complaining about this game. Is it even worth getting into?
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>>181818761
>playing into hungering horde
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>>181819078
Nope.
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>>181819015
People were just tired of playing it, it's not dead.
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>>181819078
It's a good CCG. It just often has out-of-whack balancing issues with every new expansion, but that's common among any CCG.
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>Game became an imbalanced shitshow as soon as DShift became unviable
Really makes you think
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>>181819014
It'll be consistent enough to win with, as long as you mulligan well.
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>>181819125
I still won, albeit barely by a lucky streak of events
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>>181819314
The game became an imbalanced shitshow as soon as DShift became viable
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>>181819323
Nice, any idea what I should replace alice for?
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>>181819382
so, since standard?
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what is even the point in having classes if they all play the exact fucking same
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>Otohime is bad
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>>181819715
she is though.
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>>181819715
>SF
>Alt Oto
Nice whaling discord
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Where were you when hag became best deck?
>naoise beats albert/roach/dragon stormmemes
>snow white/tinman/themis crush non-storm aggromemes i.e. neutralcraft
>curate/radiance beat burnmemes
>tribunal/iron maiden beat spawnmemes
>aegis literally unbeatable wincon in a long game
Craft your set of B&B now or lose to hag kudasai.
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>>181819990
>"beat"
>not even 50% winrate

lel
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>>181819715
Did you get grimnir'ed next turn?
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>>181820290
Shitters playing unoptimized builds bring down the winrates.
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>>181819715
I wish Otohime was playable.
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>>181819990
>needs the perfect hand to counter an average Blood opening
>can't counter shit if Blood gets perfect Alice curve
>best deck
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Need a concede
98311
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>>181819990
>snow white/tinman/themis crush non-storm aggromemes i.e. neutralcraft
lol, you're dead by turn 6
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>>181819990
>Craft your set of B&B
>so it gets banished
kys hag
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Without nerfing blood, how do we save this meta.
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Need to get my runecraft daily done, anyone got a good deck that doesn't require Oz or is she good enough that it's worth crafting 3 of her?
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>>181820318
I won that turn. Otohime is in the middle of her attack
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>>181820951
make another craft even more OP
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>>181820951
make baph and spawn neutrals
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>>181819715
>8 pp sword vs 9 pp dragon
Yeah she is good vs a dragon without ramp and suboptimal cards like Eyfa and Aina
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>>181821054
Dragon tier 1!
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>>181821024
brilliant
it worked for shadow
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>>181820951
Is there a reason to not nerf blood?
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>>181820951
make themis a neutral that banishes everything on the board for 5 pp
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>>181820951
Nothing except nerfs will save the meta thanks to Tove deciding games on turn 2.
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>>181820884
Anyone?
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>>181821102
face dragon doesn't run ramp, retard
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>>181821102
>aina
>bad
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>When the madman KMR kills his own game
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>tove,BKB,scarlet,emeralda and abyss
>combine with neutral engine
Feels like they really wanted to force blood tier 1
Almost the entire deck is from WD
Meanwhile dragon decks look almost exactly like they did in ToG
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I can't even win with Otohime, I just steamroll them with the neutral package and my CoCK.
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This game can only "fix" the current meta by powercreeping into a more retarded meta. it can only get worse. it can never get better.
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>>181819990
this isnt new, haven has been the anti meta craft since RoB, its called chemocraft for a reason
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>>181819015
>they
who? no one ever said this ever
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>>181821773
Yes.
They dont even need to rotate out old cards like hs.
They just powercreep them so hard they become obsolete.
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>>181821696
it's a mystery why they left dragon in the dumpster when it's the timmy whale craft. abyss blood has like 2 legos. they managed to kill their game and their revenue
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>>181821930
They have said like ten times already that they will start rotating sets.
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>>181822080
Sounds kinda pointless now when most cards are powercreeped so badly they are obsolete anyway.
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This is your 3pp for today
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>>181821930
They need to catch up with card pool size first to do that. That's like 2-3 years of expansions.
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>>181822004
>timmy
I remember when dragon was the johnny whale craft. And now it is again
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>Wood Of Bramble loses its effect when it leaves the field
You have nearly just a single turn to take advantage of it, and its really unlikely your opponents will attack into your fairies. Why is this allowed?
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Who's this Claudia? New hero?
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>>181822214
She should had same effect as tove if they wanted her to be viable.
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Kind of sad most standard legendary cards aside from Forte, Cerberus, and Ancient Elf are useless. Even the forest neutral package doesn't run Ancient Elf, so he's going to be gone soon.
I remember looking at cards like Aurelia thinking they would be future proof but she just got powercreeped by a gold card in the last expansion.
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>>181822396
vampy and veight little sister
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>>181822396
C'est moi.
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25223
Concede onegai
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>>181821313
>>181820884
Thanks luna
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>>181819015
do you have what deck is this guy using?
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Which deck shits on spawn (and maybe haven as well)?
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>>181822623
Nothing
Haven has the best chance, but they still need a lot of things to go right.
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>>181822415
I'm glad legos don't work with each other well. Otherwise all lego decks would be the meta.
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>>181822402
I actually though tove worked like her during reveals
What a nice surprise it was once I faced it in ranked
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Time for the power of love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ss8Wxyr2Ko
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>>181822557
Thanks Isabelle!
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when's nerfs
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are we supposed to know we're in a hole we can't dig out of by turn 4? and just concede right away? was this cygames intention?
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>>181823002
You're supposed to use those evos to dig yourself out.
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>>181823002
Salaryman-san needs his short games.
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> mfw I've been trying to do this daily since yesterday

fuck spawn and fuck neutralfaggotry
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>>181822894
Might be at the end of the month, might be never.
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>>181823232
neutral support was such a bad idea. everyone has the same cards. everyone's running so aggressive at the start. a good 1-2-3-4 curve will be pretty much gg. alice will never be nerfed, so this is what the game will be like from now on.
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>>181822684
>no counter to the best deck
>mirrors are decided by by going 1st vs 2nd

Fuck this game desu
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Took me fucking one whole hour to get 4 wins with sword.

Whoever thought neutral sword was OP needs be shot.
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Why do people still fucking play DShit?
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>>181823538
Just play Frog.
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>>181823538
B-but neutral package is op. /svg/ told me so.
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>>181823612
i will never understand, it had a crappy winrate in totg, i can only imagine the winrate is abysmal with all this aggro and shit.
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>>181823612
>people exist that still LOSE to dshift
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>>181823681
When has /svg/ ever been right?
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>>181822623
Haven can shit on spawn with iron maiden if you can clear the rest of their board for a guaranteed spawn shackle
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>>181823681
It is. Blood just has better tools to capitalize on it.
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Can I get a concede? Thanks

ID 65722
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>>181823938
cool, how do you reliably get iron maiden into your hand by turn 6 every single time?
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>>181823681
Neutral blood is awesome. But that's it I guess.

Neutral sword is so fucking bad when you don't put 1 -2 -3 alice combo.
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>>181824008
the same way blood reliably gets goblin mage into baphomet into turn 5 bapho
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>>181824242
>turn 3 & 5 do nothing
>not a free win
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>>181824356
indeed
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>>181823538
Try this deck out. It got to GM
https://twitter.com/tikiposo/status/882544775781429250
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>>181823938
Haven can just kill it with themis or tribunal and then heal back up next turn. It's not like spawn blood can pressure outside of spawn.
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>>181824508
Nips can get to GM playing forest. They literally live to play ranked.

Never believe those twitter posts.
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>>181824508
>Tsubaki into Arriet for lethal
Fucking cheeky Japs.
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>>181824508
>Arriet
>Tsubaki
Arriet I can see maybe, but what is Tsubaki even supposed to target in this meta?
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Can a kind anon post the /just themis bro/ guy?
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>>181824674
pretty much anything on evolve lol
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>>181824507
Always amazes me how quickly elana can spiral out of control
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>>181824674
There are a lot of 5/6 evos around that are always a bad trade for you without spending evo. Alice, BKB, tinman, etc.
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>>181824508
No way I'm crafting 2 cindys for this.
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>>181824508
>wallet sword
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>>181824674
Sword has a good early game with the neutral package, but you lack the burst damage to finish off your opponent in the midgame. I'm assuming the game plan of this deck is to play Tsubaki evo into Arriet for 12 unavoidable damage, just like Spawn. It's much more vulnerable than Spawn but it's interesting.
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>>181824810
I was also bricking that match, just barely managed to top deck tenko and bird keeping at the right times
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I hope they nerf that garbage Blood craft to the ground
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To fix this meta, they have to nerf haven. Haven is too good against all the decks that once blood is gone it will make the meta even worse. It is just spawn is the problem for us right now, we can deal with a one card craft but we can't deal with haven's oppression in its current form. So if cygames is smart, they will nerf haven by the end of the month.
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>>181825321
>>181825235
>complaining about based deservedcraft
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>>181825321
>t. Unga
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>>181825321

remove ambush from spawn what the fuck

or make the ambush conditional or something
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>>181825398
Fanfare: Gain ambush while in vengeance.
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>>181825398
What trait of blood would be something similar to a condition that has to be met, though?
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>>181825352
>abyss has ambush and hides from the enemy
More like cowardcraft
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>>181825485
i can't think of anything better just leave it as is
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>>181825485
Add "deal 2 to yourself", balanced BKB quite well indeed.
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>>181825485
Hmm, maybe
A.) If you have a neutral in play
or maybe
B.) Deals 2 damage if you're not 10 health or lower
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>>181817543
It looks like from a doujin. Sauce?
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>>181825321
>Dragon is typically really good against Control decks like Haven
>literally unplayable right now because it has no answer to enhanced spawn outside of perfect ramp curve
>also really bad against the overstatted neutral shit if forced to go second
>other counter, d-shift, is also really bad against neutral shit
>other other counter, combo forest decks, are also really bad against neutral shit

Aggro-shitters only have themselves to blame. Enjoy getting themis'd faggots.
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>>181825818
Too big of a downside. Maybe if you're under half your maximum health, gain storm?
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>>181825854
Claudia is still a Child you sicko
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>>181825485
Fanfare: deal 2 damage to your leader if you are not in vengeance

There, now it's balanced
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>>181825321
>i cant win heaven with my braindead blood deck, it must be that haven is broken!
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>>181825949
retards cried about a 3 card + evo point and perfect ramp for months this is what they deserve.
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>>181825949
>Dragon is good against control decks like Haven
Where did you get this idea?
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>>181813065
I've been thinking about uninstalling a lot lately. it just feels so stupid to spend time on this game right now.
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is interesting the crybbs in this thread
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>>181826070
>tilting at windmills deck
>Haven can't play Aegis without getting OTK'd by Hamsa
>can't win because they can't kill Dragon without Aegis
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I'm fucking tired of the meta, faced like 7 Spawn Bloodcrafts in a row and unranked isn't any different.
Anyone wants to chill and try some deck decks out?
97181
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>>181824745
a-anyone?
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>>181826291
Will you get mad if my Cblood has abyss in it?
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>>181826291
I really, really wish they made it so unranked matchmaking wasn't tied to your rank
As it is unranked is completely pointless
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>>181826357
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>>181826226
While that is true, aegis isn't the only threat to dragon. Storm or elana on a good enough curve can make it difficult for dragon to handle with tilting on 7
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>>181826450

How many variations does does have?

I've seen Themis and Bahamut.
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>>181826443
Unranked is okay. You get the occasional neutral sword/blood, but I mostly played DShift, Dirt and Aegis.
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Luna!
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>>181826735
DELETE THIS
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uhhh mordecai + test of strength is pretty retarded
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>>181826593
>Elana
>good against Dragon

>Storm Haven
Well that's a midrange version of Haven, not control like Aegis which is Haven's best deck right now
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>>181826805
Just lightning blast bro
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I have enough vials to update two of my classes with new leggos and could use some advice from a fun point of view on which decks to go with.
I keep hearing that seraph is back but it's not on any tier list that matters so I'm skeptical despite having had a lot of fun with it in the past. Are the new Dirt lists as enjoyable to play as they seem?
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>>181826450
Thank you very much, anon!

Also, can another kind anon help me with my private quest?
>55819
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>>181826897

whatever, I'll just spawn through it :^)
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>>181826938
im having a lot of fun with dirt
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geez, I sure wish unevolved snow white had 1 health instead of 2 and still evolved into a 2/3 so I can run her into shitty goblins and still get the effect off
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What am I supposed to do when I draw both of my Spawns before t5? Concede?
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>>181826957
Thank you very much, kind anon! I hope many legendaries and 5-0's come to you.
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>>181826735
do not delet this
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>>181826874
In that case, I see your point. I've always had a problem with Aegis against direct face damage from hand, and tilting is exactly that with 24 for free.
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>>181827131
Just play it out?
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>>181824508
>No Princess Kiss
Rip promotions
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>>181826735
DEL
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>>181826938
Windmill Dragon is fun.
Dirt is fun, if you enjoy burn decks.
Seraph should work in this meta - most people won't expect it to drop.
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>>181827131
You don't NEED to have an early spawn to win with neutral blood. Just make the most of your neutral cards and hold off until turn 8. Try to save an evolve if possible.
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How to make good cards for forest

Elf illusionist
>4PP 3/4
>Fanfare: return an enemy follower with 3 or less defense to its owner's hand
>If you play 2 or more card this turn, return a follower or an amulet to its owner's hand instead

Vine of degeneration
>4PP spell
>give an enemy follower -5/-5, if the enemy follower reach 0 defense this way, banish it
>enhance (8) give all enemy follower(s) -5/-5 instead. If enemy follower reach 0 defense this way, banish it.

There will be a lot more work to put forest back into the meta as a strong class, but here is something to start.
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>>181827362
>Turn 4 restore 3 health to an enemy follower
>Turn 4 do nothing
>Turn 8 do nothing
wow r/shadowverse great cards
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>>181827362
>Giving forest a one-sided Languish
>A permanent one at that
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I just lost against Dark Alice + ToS trick. What the fuck is this deck, it's so bullshit. It's incredible.
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>>181827560
Just pixie mischief, bro.
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>>181827547
You don't even want to play that shit at turn 8 with how the current meta is going. Shows how bad the powercreep is.
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>>181827560
Just play Odin bro
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>>181827560
That's what you get from playing meme "control" decks
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>>181827560
Just mutagenic it bro
Just abyss/emeralda him bro
Just banish it bro
Just baha it bro
Just pixie mischief bro

Don't tell me you actually play sword
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>>181825235
BKB and that scarlet is too OP.
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>>181827925
>Don't tell me you actually play sword
I-I was. I was trying out >>181824508's deck ;_;
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REMOVE ELANA
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APOLOGIZE
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>>181828068
He should've been dead by turn 6-7
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>>181828231
which deck are you even playing that you lose to elana
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>>181828231
>42% winrate
If you lose against non-countdown amulet decks you are shit at this game
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>>181828380

if you don't have a way to remove a turn 5 6/4 6/6 4+3 (+2/+2 to any of the aforementioned) then you're fucked regardless of class
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>>181828380
neutral blood
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>>181828325
>we're going to get her as leader even though she will never be relevant again
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>>181828605
Which leader card is still relevant?
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>>181828503
And what the fuck were you doing during their 3 turn do nothings?
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>>181828671
IKUZO
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>>181828503
well then you better tech in a way to remove them because if you can't deal with that, you can't deal with spawn either

>>181828534
the only reason you lose to elana is if you bricked your early game
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>>181828671
Albert will be the only relevant winner
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>>181828671
garuda and forte
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>>181828605
Most of the current purchasable leaders are irrelevant anyways.
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>play elf
>go second
>never draw ETA
>lose
Thanks for not giving me anything to answer t2 tove cygames. I love eating 6 to 11 face damage because I have no way of answering a fucking 2pp 3/3 rush.
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>>181828689
>>181828708

What can deal with a 6/7, 6/6 and 4/3 on turn 5?

Fucking enlighten me bros.
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>>181828706
>>181828735
>Only 10 damage on turn 9
Awwww how cute they still think Albert is good
>>
I really dislike this expansion with Daria and Shadow my top 1k was easy but some decks can ruin the WR of spawn is hard to say if blood is t1 desu.
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>>181828605
I'm having a hard time believing Erasmus, Sewlyn and Latham were ever relevant.
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>>181828818
>play elf
>get 2 ETA and 1 sylvan justice as opening hand
>still lose anyway because not enough neutral cards for ETA

The only inconsistent neutral deck is forest neutral.
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>>181828857
Not playing a godawful deck helps
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>>181828806
>>181828938
The difference is no one voted for those leaders. This time people are actually voting for irrelevant shit.
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>>181828857
Killing them the next turn
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>>181828857
transform them, themis, or maybe play a deck that doesn't skip the first 5 turns
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>>181829059
Not that anon but Burn Rune is one of the best counters against Neutral Blood but loses against Elana.
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>>181829059
>What can deal with a 6/7, 6/6 and 4/3 on turn 5?
>posts winrate and ignores his question
Nice
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>>181829205
Oh well accept that your deck has a niche counter then?
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>>181829205
decks are allowed to have bad matchups, and burn rune only has the advantage of being able to transform spawn, it doesn't have an impressive winrate against the deck
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>>181827131
>only two
retard
>what am i supposed to do
stall with bkb, scarlet, etc you fucking brainlet
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>>181829265
Watch him call out your rank as well
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>>181829265
Anyone still crying about Elana at this point deserves absolutely nothing. You are trash, plain and simple. Non-countdown amulet based decks in this game are completely awful.
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>>181823435
Nah, they'll just powercreep the removal again to try and unfuck the game. Get ready for 3PP salamander's breath and 4PP tribunal that banishes, and 5PP themis.
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>>181829368
>it doesn't have an impressive winrate against the deck
mine does
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>>181829265
>>181829417
Also stop replying to yourself, it's embarrassing.
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>>181829015
>>181828818
>forest
>has to run neutrals and keep said neutrals in hand
>everyone else
>just run neutrals bro
Silly me, thinking forest has the right to decent cards. I'm excited to see the elf playrate at the end of this expansion. If it isn't lower than 5% I will vial all the other crafts cards and only leave forest.
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Anyone have a good carabosse deck going?
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fuck me
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>>181829426
>attacks player skill
>still ignores question
Nice
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>>181829583
I'll fuck you, just give me your address.
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>>181829547
>being this defensive about not having an argument
not even that anon but you're just depressing
>>
Ok, do i craft 2 snow whites for my storm haven deck or do i replace her with something?
I guess surviving an aggro curve without her is barely impossible
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>>181829590
>Turn 1 do nothing amulet
>Turn 2 do nothing amulet
>Turn 3 do nothing amulet
>Reminder: this is the ideal Elana curve
>HOLY SHIT GUYS HOW DO I BEAT THIS DECK
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>>181829704
For some reason i'm hungry
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>>181829265
Any neutral deck that curved out, not just Blood, would have killed an Elana that did nothing on turn 2 and 3. It's fucking retarded to look at it at in terms of stats.
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>>181829015
>plays shitty version with sylvan and probably some roach crap
>doesn't have enough cards for ETA
:thinking:
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>>181829569
Post name and code
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>>181829704
Can someone eat even in a more disgusting manner?
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>>181829704
Anyone have a good hentai with a girl using this type of outfit?
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>>181829717
I can think of something actually depressing, doubling down on pretending to be a different person while still replying to yourself.
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>>181829583
Triple ephemera into albert, do it.
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>>181823681
It is. However you need control tools to go with it, and Sword still doesn't do anything but hope they hit face faster than the opponent.
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>>181829804
I put 2 sylvan in because ETA is not enough to deal with other neutral's bullshit early game. Other than that only forestcraft cards are WD cards that sunergize with neutral. No roach no AE.
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>>181829882
I've done double Ephemera into T9 Evo Albert before.
Pretty satisfying dealing 7, then 9 damage.
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> ptp forest is good, guys!

I have no idea why I keep listening to this retarded thread.
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>>181824508
>Three (3) animated Alice
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>>181830104
>he doesn't draw the god hands that allow for ptp on turn 6
Just get lucky bro.
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>>181830104
It doesn't work for brainlets
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>>181830104
Amulet decks are just bad in this game and cygames have obviously given up on them. The closest thing amulets have to support is Uriel, a shitty understatted do nothing follower released two expansions ago.
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@181829878
Stay delusional, my friend. Keep up with those splendid >do nothing arguments! I wonder how haven manages to stay a better craft than forest with such a splendid curve
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>>181830045
16 damage to face on turn 9? Hmm, what developer would allow such a thing?
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>>181829958
>Sword finally got class-specific amulet removal
>It's locked behind an evolve
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HAHAHA DIDN'T EXPECT GABBY
IKUZOOOOOOOO
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>>181830257
amulet decks require slower gameplay than this game has since they'll always be a waste of tempo, specially when you're probably only 5 turns away of a big threat
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>tfw doing my blood missions in unranked
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Got matched against a Grandmaster who played Carabosse Aggro Blood. Not all hope is lost. Probably.
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>>181830302
It's 19 if ephemeras also hit. Sword tier 0 now.
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>>181828605
By that logic the default leader don't even have cards, and where never relevant.
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>>181830434
All they have to do is print more cheap amulets with good fanfares and lasting effects, but who cares about thinking and playing such decks?
Just print more aggro stuff to Tanaka-san can finish his dailies in the train.
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>>181830536
Autism
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>>181828818
Just Ivy Spellbomb and Surefire bullet bro.
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>>181830467
You know what they said about Master memeing because they don't care about ranks? That's the same thing now with GMs.
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>>181830405
If that was me in that situation, Shadow would have topdecked soul conversion into Eachtar Zombie party and oops there goes all my hard work.
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>>181830183
>>181830197
>>181830257

yes most excellent deck my dear
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>>181830434
>bird with storm
>a lost in tempo
>fully stated follower comes with the amulet's fanfare
>said follower can deal 3 damage with evo point
>lost in tempo
Nah. Amulets are pretty strong, only for haven though.
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>>181829569
Get ready to vial your cards then. After they nerf Blood hags will get uppity, and combo will come back to chemo them.
>>
35172
need a concede here friendos
also rip control seraph havencraft
that shit took me all the way up to A2 right after darkness was released, then it became unplayable and so did ranked for me
those three months were by far the most fun i ever had on a card game
still in A2
F
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>>181830712
I did get lucky he had no eachtar. Shadows not so tough without him
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>>181830795
okay let me be more specific
non-last-words amulets are always a tempo loss
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>>181830795
Obviously not talking about haven's countdown "amulets" here, but thanks for the observation anyway, cap obvious
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>>181830838
don't be sad anon haven still the best chemo for everything we only could stand shadow meta because of Haven.
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>>181812613
I was surprised how top quality wife material isabelle was.
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need a win, stay for trade 79367
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>tfw you have animated sleeves and /svg/ doesn't
Fucking master shitters
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>>181830965
i did my best to craft an anti spawn havencraft aegis deck, disenchanted a bunch of probably playable cards for it but i still get fucked by it most of the time
a good curve and a lack of enemy answers is what defines the winner after all, like in every card game
card games are lame, yet here we are
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>>181831154
thanks rowen
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They should really nerf haven by the end of this month. Blood is only strong because of spawn and we can figure out a way to deal with it sooner or later. Haven is the real cancer hiding behind blood right now.
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>>181831169
>he has animated sleeves
>but he doesn't have a life
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>Turn 7 almost guaranteed every game wincon
What did Cygames mean by this?
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>>181831383
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You have to eat all the eggs, Rowen
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>>181831412
It means Takeshi-san is late for work
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>new expansion barely a week old
>dead general
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Remind me again why this doesn't deal damage equal to ALL cards in hand?
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Do you ever play shadowverse while drunk? I'm wasted right now, should I play or just watch anime?
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>>181830467
Get ready for the netdeck sites to list all sorts of garbage memes because '12 winstreak in GRANDMASTERS!!!1'. I still remember that Storm list they had up for over a month that ran Godsteel Wings and Holy Mage.
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>>181831310
It fucking sucks that Haven gets to have all the answers to cancer decks (midshadow, Abyss, hell they even have Aegis counters), all while having an invincible wincon.
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>>181831690
Because it already does with looking glass?
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>>181831709
47266
Fight me.
Imma grab a beer.
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>>181831683
It's not dead yet, it'll be fueled by pure hate for a few weeks at least. If they don't nerf anything at the end of the month, then it may just die.
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Based Tsubaki killing spawn and setting me up for the win
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>>181831690
>2pp deal 9 damage to 2 enemy followers
Sounds balanced.
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>>181831683
>400 replies
>5 hours
>le ded general
Why don't you fuck of to your actual dead general hearthstonefag.
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>>181831795
This couldn't be more unfunny if you tried
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>>181831824
>2 card combo
>in a craft that has next to no draw power
>forced neutral synergy while blood can have theirs free of charge
Just highroll bro.
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>>181831841
Wait 5 minutes lad
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>>181831795
You have to go back.
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>>181831690
Because forest can't have nice things. It's been like this for multiple expansions. Ever wonder why everyone can vomit their hands when playing neutrals while forest has to hold on to their hands?
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> forest requires you to have your hand full
> but also requires you to play shit to avoid the incessant goblin cock

forest is unplayable right now
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>>181831690
>>181832064
Are you both retarded? 2PP do 4+ damage to 2 followers ignoring ambush and can't be spell targeted would be disgusting without a condition.
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Need a concede: 40930
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>>181813150
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>>181832190

Thank you!
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Need a concede
70110
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>>181829578
Just play Neutralspawn with her instead of Spawn. That way you'll win slightly less games but get to feel like a special snowflake while doing it.
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>>181832185
>can't target
>bad against board flood
>bad against big boys
>only good when dealing with exactly 2 medium sized followers
>still requires retarded conditions

Gee I wonder why forest is still not out of the dumpster.
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>>181832368
Thanks kind senpai
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>neutral spawn mirror
>don't go first
>lose
>don't draw baphomet
>lose
Fun game
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>>181832485
You're right, it should be 2pp banish all enemy cards.
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>>181832280
is abomination actually playable?
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>>181832036
I'm still waiting anon senpai.
Love me.
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>>181813150
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>>181832185
>having cards in hand is not a condition
>can't deal with board flood
>random
It would still be balanced for current shadowverse.
>>
It's pretty crazy how dead this thread is compared to a week after TOG.
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>>181832570
His point is that everyone else gets broken retarded cards without conditions anyway
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>>181832720
Post deck, the lists I've tried are way too inconsistent.
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>>181823232
rofl mad cuz bad
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>>181813150
Just wish they would nerf Alice the explorer because shes the bane of all fun when it comes to using actual class cards.
Literally need brutal luck to win as a craft using actual class cards.
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>>181832549
dont play spawn then, you fucking faggot
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>>181832818
My list has a rough 5% winrate my friend you don't want it
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>>181832549
Don't play neutralspawn then
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>>181832812
Soon we will reach /hsg/ level of dead.
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>>181832812
To be fair the game was just coming off one of its best metas and people were still having fun. ToG killed that fun
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What are some must have forest cards?current forest legos
have 21k vials and 27 tickets
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>>181832989
3x AE till the end of time
Except for the BnB list, that one doesn't run her
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>>181832989
Just buy the forest precon. x3 AE is a must. x1 elf queen, x2 wolf are good investments and BnB is good for neutral
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>>181833052
what about golds?
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>>181832640
I want to fuck azazel
gg
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>>181832818
All Don Quixote meme decks are inconsistent.
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Is Tia unplayable now? It is such a shame because before this she is an auto include x 3 just like AE.
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>>181832624
no, it works 1/5 games
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>>181833178
3x Roach till the end of time
3x Aerin till the end of time
2-3x Liza if you want a tempo list
3x Silver bolt if you want a bolt list
1-3x WotF for slower lists, but recently it has been phased out
3x Jungle Bungas if you want a slower deck
Lilac is very strong, whether she stays in some lists is up in the air.
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>>181833275
Who doesn't?
GG man.
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>>181831310
>>181831764
>STILL complaining about T9 do nothing
Literally just ToS with mord/D Alice
>inb4 bahamut
Let's be honest here, no one runs both in a good deck.
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>>181832989
>>181833178
>>181833281
Don't listen to retards.

The only currently playable forest deck is neutral and has below 50% winrate. For that you need 3 beasts and that's it. But be aware forest sucks in the current meta.
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>>181833307
You don't need 3 bolts, that's begging for bricks.
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>>181833307
hi DE
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>>181833414
Except Roach OTK still exists and has a higher WR than neutral.
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It's not really high, but I'm happy about this.
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>>181833574
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>>181833552
Because only a few people uses those decks and they're good at it. This guy doesn't know how to play forest.
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>still 24 more days until they nerf baphomet
i want my patrician class BACK
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>>181833574
I'm happy for you man
Just don't forget to have fun
Having fun is everything is good in this life
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>>181833574
go vampy go
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>>181833574
Just keep playing neutral blood and you'll reach master by end of the month right before the nerf.
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guys forest counters blood but loses to everything else

is it worth playing rn?
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>Otohime is bad
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>>181833574
>lvl 77
>only 5 ws with a tier 0 deck
you can stop posting
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>>181833991
>Beating on a cripple
>>
> Oz doesn't make dshift cost 1 mana

what's the fucking point then
>>
>>181833552
>>181833879
Can I get your list?
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>>181831690
Because then it would cost 6.
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FUCKING CYKEK UN-NERF LIGHTING BLAST BACK!!!!!! C'THULU IS KILLING US ALL!!!!!!!
>>
Also can i get something other than neutral decks from the T2 tickets?
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>>181834012
If you played spawn you'd know you can get fucked in so many ways.
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I really like this Ephemera girl in ambush sword
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>>181834149
>AA rank shitter telling me about how you can lose with a tier 0 deck
what a surprise
>>
>>181833991
>FOREST
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>>181833991
>Look haha I posted it again guys
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>>181833895
That was the most wholesome (You) I've seen in a long time, take a picture of my waifu.
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>>181834143
neutral cards*
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>>181834128
This is what you fags get for crying for nerfs instead of learning to play around shit. Lie in the bed you fucking A2 shitters made.
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How do I into control blood? I have no idea what I'm doing
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>>181833895
You are the best person on the internet ever.
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>>181834465
>belph in control
>>
How to make Elana deck viable? Just make Elana follower 4pp 2/3-4/5 Fanfare: summon Elana's Prayer amulet if there isn't one already on the field
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>181834128
>181834464
Kill yourselves dragonshitters, lightning blast deserved to get nerfed.
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>crafted 3 Caraboose with my farmed vials day 1 of expac because I was a c blood cuck since DE
>card is shit
>don't have enough vials to craft legos for other decks
Hold me svg
>>
>>181834465
>Spawn
>"""""""""Control"""""""""""
>>
>>181834272
You people keep replying to obvious discord faggots they keep mom posting here.
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>>181834548
Like I said, I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>181834694
Out of 2 new blood legos it was pretty obvious which one you're supposed to craft you dumb shitter.
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>>181834012
>>181834225
That other reply wasn't me, I got to lvl 75ish by playing meme stuff in ranked, like carrot+urd or some take two here and there.
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>>181834694
>he actually fell for the Caboose meme
Enjoy your 6pp magic missile
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>>181834694
>crafting legos day 1 of expansion
I will never pity you retards who unironically do this. It's like no matter how many times we tell you don't do this you still do it anyway.
>>
>>181832931
>>181832862
>don't play Neutral Spawn
>lose to neutral spawn
>>
>>181834746
The blood moon package is inconsistent as fuck, if you don't draw blood moon on turn 3 you're pretty much fucked, even dire bond/blood pact is better (you can use both, yes). Add righteous devils aswell, and a third tsundere demon.
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>>181834969
>People who crafted 3x Cinderella day 1 because of the neutral sword fad
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>>181834225
Not even the same anon, if you think a 5 streak is bad because muh spawn you are just retarded. Just going second is enough to get fucked in all kind of ways (rune/haven/spawn being the most significant).
>T0
kek, you indeed can stop replying
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>>181834841
Reading context is important. Legos for "other" decks. Meaning I crafted both blood legos but Caraboose is useless

>>181834917
Ya I fell for the looks good on paper lego.
>>
>>181834694
>tfw fell of svg meme spouting retards
>crafted 3 Oz
>3 Beasts
>3 Cindys
>2 Snow White
>none of those cards are actually necessary and will probably die in the next expansion

Welcome to the fake hype club.
>>
>>181835084
But neutral sword is good. It's the lists that are bad
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>>181835085
>i can't win with a tier 0 deck
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>>181834696
>aegis
>"""""""""Control"""""""""""
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>>181835107
>a 6pp repeating magic missile looks good on paper
Please stop, you are only embarrassing yourself.
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>>181835167
Neutral sword is garbage.

Just like sword itself.
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>>181835167
Neutral sword doesn't even need Cinderalla to be good.
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>>181835107
>looks good on paper
You could play phantom cat for two turns of caraboose draw and if it it hit two neutrals 4 turns of damage. At no pp sacrifice.

The only way the card could've looked good on paper is if you never played this game anymore and actually thought games went past turn 7/8
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>>181835202
>implying
pathetic desu
>>
>>181834465
No reason to put blood moon or belphegor or both toghter the only cards with vengeance effects are clunky if you don't vengeance on do some tests anon.

And yes control blood is using fucking abyss now
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>>181834465
Whoa so if you play Blood Moon on turn 3, then Big Knuckle Bruiser on turn 4 you don't take 2 damage.
Nice deck.
Also there is a card that deal 10 damage to your face in the list, I don't know about that...
>>
>>181835167
Neutral sword is one of the worst neutral decks right now simply cause it's main win condition outside of going first with perfect curve is at turn 9, when other clases end game much faster than that.
>>181835084
>thinking that Cinderella is even good in it
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>>181835107
>Caraboose
>looks good on paper
No it didn't you'd have to be an actual idiot to believe caraboose was going to be anything less than a meme legendary.
>>
tfw have moved from hs to sv to gwent

at least this time i'm in early on the beta
>>
>>181835407
That's exactly my point. The netdeck had 3x cinderella, some people crafted 3x cinderella until people realized that neutral spawn is ten time as annoying
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>>181835269
Wrong
>>181835407
That's why you play Ambush neutral sword. With tsubaki, slacker, gabby, and arriet.
>>
>>181835505
I would honestly get into Gwent if the UI wasn't so goddamn hideous.
>>
>>181835621
>MOERU CHUU
>>
>>181835505
what a shame gwent is boring as fuck, i really like the witcher novels
>>
>>181835505
I tried gwent and it is an actual card game unlike hs and sv. It means that you need to have a complete set if you actually want to climb, a.k.a. you need to whale. I am sticking with sv because it is the most f2p friendly.
>>
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>>181835354
>>181835080

So something like this?
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>>181827560
they usually pack a satan and bahamut in that deck guess you died before seeing that
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>>181835832
swap 1 righteous devil for a second dire bond and it's fine
>>
>>181835505
I'm just gonna stop with digital ccgs entirely. At least in paper Magic you can still play casual formats with friends, if Wizards fucks up yet another new set.
>>
Anyone has otk forest list? It is fine even if it is not updated. I want to try it because I only play tempo forest before.
>>
>>181835832
it's on the right way at least
>>
>>181835832
no goblin to tutor bahomet?
>>
ezem
ezb8
ezes
any of these decks could be salvaged in some way?
>>
>>181836026
>all that draw power
it's not even needed
>>
>>181835832
>playing inferior version of blood

for what purpose?
>>
>>181836089
post the images anon i don't read codes
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>>181836089
cant you screenshot them?
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>>181836089
>ezb8
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How much you wanna bet Spawn is still busted or at least really good even when Baphomet get's nerfed. Cygames needs to just swallow there pride and admit they fucked up with Spawn and just nerf the card itself. Spawn is even more uninteractive than Dshit is and getting punished with 16 damage just because you weren't playing a counter deck that loses to every other deck in ranked isn't fair at all.
>>
How the fuck is knuckle guy balanced?
>>
Quick, i need a kaiba dragon deck
I'm gonna put those 3 dragoons that i never used to work
>>
>>181836539
If they give blood neutral a slap on the wrist like they did shadow it'd kill them game dead.

There's barely more players playing the game at the first week of WD versus the last week of TotG.
>>
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>>181836013
ETA consistency main problem. Consider angelic snipe, pixie mischief and Lilac.
>>
>>181836225
>>181836267


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>>181836013
use with your own risk.
Looking Glass + Elf Twin Assault is inconsistent af
>>
>>181834150
How many times did you win?
>>
>>181836685
ps. i suck at this game so i don't know what i am doing
>>
>Opponent goes first
>T1 Goblin
>T2 Tove
>T3 Goblin Leader

And conceded

I wonder if they keep track of the number of concedes at certain turns.
>>
>>181836685
Frankly it just looks like you're throwing cards together. These aren't ready to be "salvaged" because they're not complete decks with cohesion to them.

Run 3 copies of the cards you need, have a game plan. It's fine to net deck to start out, but even if you don't you need to just figure out what the hell you want to do. The game plan can be as simple as "beat face" but you need a plan.
>>
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>>181836013
I've been using these 2 lists to climb masters.
Currently 5.6k, climbed around 500 points with it yesterday.
If you have never played a roach otk deck before, it might take some time to learn the matchups.
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>https://twitter.com/purple_21s/status/882533226480140288
>see this
>fell for the le csword meme
>crafted 2 heroes
>already lost to 5 neutral meme decks in a row

DO NOT FALL FOR THIS MEME

I'm dead serious.
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>>181836539
I doubt they change anything more than Baph enhance the first month. Probably only do that so they can "collect more data and see what happens" because you know their internal testers are apparently really fucking shit at the game and Cygames doesn't give a fuck.
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>four second's in a row

GREAT STUFF
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>>181836865
all right i'll start over,do i want to use newer neutral cards or stay with class specific cards mostly and use only a few neutrals?
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>try to have fun in shadowverse with actual class cards.
>cant because they all get outvalued easily by neutral shit.
This game is so sad right now.
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>>181836941
>tfw Roland could finally see play but they foresaw this and made Emeralda
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>>181835621
>playing understatted followers with no immidiate impact on board is somehow good
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>>181837050
Class cards tend to be better in a vacuum, though neutral synergy shit is wild right now if you have the right cards.

Just remember some rules. Have a game plan, three ofs of your important cards, maintain a pp curve so that you can reliably play cards every turn. I'd really recommend new players netdeck to learn the game but it's kind of a bad time for budget honestly.
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so should I run taboo in a dirt rune deck and if I do would having him and magic illusionist eat up too many sigils?
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>set up dual cannons while dragon is ramping up
>he doesn't have a bahamut
>bounce Cinderella up and down and ger her off a lot
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>>181837136
They don't even try to hide it. KMR really wanted blood to be T0/T1
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>>181837136
Not just emeralda but when the early neutral aggression is too high there's literally nothing you can about that. You can't remove whole boards so you just put fat wards in hope it'll hold but they just keep buffing shit and just explode your face.
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>>181836780
No idea, I only play that deck in unranked.
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>>181836941
THREE ROLANDS
THREE
3
III
HEROES OF ANTIQUE
WHAT THE SHIT
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What's a decent replacement for snow white in Aegis haven? I only have 1.
Unica? Snake?
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>>181837448
You must craft 3 of them buddy.

It's the rule.
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Ontop of nerfs, Cygames should give free 4k ranked score for the next month to anyone who went second a disproportionate amount of times this month.
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>>181837261
i dont run taboo in dirt rune, illusionist works fine for me
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>>181837541
Are you trying to trying into wasting vials or is she really that important?
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>>181836941
>has 3000+ wins with sword

Should've realize he's not actually good and just autistically grinds ranked
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>>181837352
Are you running some of the netural package in their or just NEET angel?
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>>181837691
she is really good and has sinergy in early with the dog
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>>181837448
>>181837691
She's very high value and your deck will be a lot worse off for not having her but she's not core or anything. You can run Unicas.

You WILL lose games because you played Unica on 2 when you wanted Snow White but it doesn't destroy your deck or anything.
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>>181837691
Rule is the rule buddy.

Chop, chop 10.5k vials ready
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>>181815929
Mutagenic Bolt
Iron Maiden (somewhat)
There is a 2 drop for heaven that basically makes impossible for them to take more than 3 damage for each attack for a turn.
Meme blood mask.
Healing the shit out of your ass after killing a spawn.

Granted most counters are either in heaven or rune.
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>>181837448
Naoise, Unica or even Lyrial. Though it feels like she carries me a lot.
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>>181837691
She's a unique 2pp drop in the Haven arsenal where she is able to trade with most 2pp and a few 3pp's and live. She isn't a must craft, however.
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>>181837896
I love this

>Blood has counters meme

When in fucking reality

Those decks just lose LESS to blood than others.
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>>181837448
Consider crafting her. As a hagfag, she's really high value and probably Haven's first core legendary (think Albert and Ancient Elf).
Very safe to craft.
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>>181837995
>shadowlog
Those numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt
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>>181837995
We are talking mostly of counters to spawn. The shit with blood is that the neutral engine is fucking broken and blood has one of the best 2 drops that synergy with neutrals.
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I'm making a storm haven deck right now, is it better to craft 2 snow whites and 1 lion or just 3 snows?
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>>181838105
>i dont agree with these numbers therefore they don't count

cool story bruh
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>>181837995
>70% percent winrate
Why is this allowed

>>181838056
Don't listen to this retard and save your vials.
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41366
Concede onegai
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>>181838105
So what source are you basing your arguments on? Anecdotal evidence?
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>>181838246
Thanks, Bosse.
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Anything else I should star?
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>>181838441
Wait was this updated AGAIN? The smile looks better. Very good.
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>>181838272
What arguments?
>self reported
>history has shown that their numbers clash with the ones provided by cygames
Yep there is my evidence, but go ahead
As long as the numbers prove your narrative right with blood being unbeatable it has to be right
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>>181838105
>blood is fine guise don't trust shadowlog like a retard its all biased
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>>181838515
>cygames provides numbers

news to me

feel free to link them :^)
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>>181838479
Baphomet
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>>181837726
Just NEET angel because of synergy with Rogue's Creed and she's basically free damage from hand when you already have ambushed followers on board.
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>>181838056
>>181837913
>>181837898
I'm gonna do it.
Somebody stop me. Or don't.
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>>181838156
storm haven uses lions and snow whites?
lion is for neutral, snow white for control.
Maybe you can add snow whites on it, but dont craft the lions for storm
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>>181838575
Maybe stop being lazy and search the news yourself
They stated them in the card balance news
I don't care how unbeatable you or the nips think abyss is, to do this work myself
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>>181838132
Then it's not a counter, just a way to survive if anything.
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>>181837136
I wonder what the fuck made them think this game needed even more amulet destruction
It's not like amulet destruction does anything against last words amulets anyway, the only amulets that are actually playable
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>>181838753
>i can prove you wrong
>i just dont want to

said no one, ever.
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>>181838631
I would but that train is gone. I'm never buying RoB packs again so I won't get more than the 3 I have.
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>>181838673
do it, she can kill tove on her own
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Should food act like food?
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>>181838735
>Snow white is for control
How am i supposed to live the aggro curve without her?
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>>181838515
>history has shown that their numbers clash with the ones provided by cygames
The only thing history shows is that decks that are out of line according to shadowlog's numbers end up getting nerfed
Sit down fag
>b-but muh 1.5% deviation...
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>>181838673
Only do it if you like playing haven regardless of the state of the meta.
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>>181838673
>8k vials
Are you sure you want to be playing haven most of the time? Then again you seem to have three copies of spawn so you'll always be able to climb
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>>181838889
then craft it
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>>181838823
>prove me wrong,
>but I don't have to prove myself right, I'm always right :^)
Yes Shadowlog is without fail and who doesn't agree is a meanie
We should honestly ban everyone who doesn't worship and praise these numbers the nips deliver us
Fucking heretics in here
Shadowlog is our GOD
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>>181838673
no. don't. stop. keep yourself from spending vials on a decent lego.
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>>181839056
>>181838823
>>
list for spawn deck?
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>>181839062
what is a decent lego for you?
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If light blast had the option to kill a random stealthed follower in play?
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This is so fucking fun
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>>181839207
i'm being facetious. snow white is a decent lego. I really don't see her disappearing from most of the future haven decklists unless they really want to go aggro a la luxwing reno.
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>>181839341
Honestly I think Dragon responds to Spawn himself consistently enough. Good healing, ramp into Bahamut, whatever. Their main problem is dealing with the neutral aggro side of things.
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>enemy goes first
>gets the alice curve
>literally no way to win the game
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>>181839548
just themis bro
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>>181839020
I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my legos this expansion compared to ToG. I got fucking nothing in ToG. Only crafted 1 Oz, 2 spawn and 3 Alice.
I'm only interested in D.Alice from what I don't have and I got another 6K from vialing non nerf potential extra shit.
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>>181839405
I'm glad you said fun and not actually good.
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>>181839548
Just dragon slayer bro
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>>181836681
>>181836720
>>181836892
Thanks a lot.
>ETA consistency is a problem.
Figure as much. For the elf queen version how does Elf Queen helps since it is a one off? Also overall how does otk feels compare to tempo? From my guess is that it is the same as tempo that I need to clear opponent's board as much as possible, but I shouldn't slap everything on curve like tempo. When do you decide to use the removal and when to get on board?
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>>181839535
Can you share a good deck for dragon ?
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>>181839820
I personally like concede dragon the best.
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>>181839341
It would bump storm ramp drago up a tier again. Maybe it'd be 1.5
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>>181839405
D Alice spawn animation is just so fucking GOAT
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>>181839820
>dragon
>good deck
not possible
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>>181839706
B-but it is good, just take out the frozen mammoths for deaths breath. I don't have any.
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>>181839820
Do you have a time machine? Set it back like 2 months
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>>181839341
It would be nice to have general anti-neutral amulet or something that banishes either random or most powerful non-neutral thing as fanfare. Downside it could have some obnoxious number countdown like 5 that does nothing once it ends to clog the board a bit.
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>>181839820
No. Because I think they have a problem dealing with the neutral aggro side of things which basically makes them unplayable this meta.

Breath of the Salamander doesn't hit shit, Rahab doesn't block shit, decks go wide so evo removal is rough.
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I just want Control Sword to be good again
I miss my waifu Charlotte
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>>181840379
Was she ever even good in Control Sword?
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Would you guys rather go back to floral fencer and baldy going 2nd were the best cards of the game or this
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>>181840379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpA_DIMDE4w
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>>181840379

For csword to be good you need forest be on top of the meta first.
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>>181840497
I'd go back to totg over this.
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>>181840484
Yes
Storm ward sometimes is crucial to buy one more turn and get opponent to that 10 HP
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>>181840497
anything but this really
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ELF
IS
FOR
BULLY
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So many free wins from bloodniggers dropping a naked spawn t6 and passing their turn
This is great
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>>181840508
>taking those game ai shill videos seriously

lmao
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>>181840728
>game-ai
huh? did you reply to the wrong person?
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>>181840716
Red hood is so much fucking bullshit. She's like Levi but even more annoying.

I'm glad it only works in neutral meme decks so we won't see this crap in the next expac again.
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>>181840716
It's silly how high ranked bloods have mostly got rid of Baph to put in more early/midgame and just use it as evolve slam to finish burning you out.
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>make a meta that ends games as early as turn 4
>make conceding take even longer than usual
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>>181839757
>For the elf queen version how does Elf Queen helps since it is a one off?
Elf Queen is there as a way of healing and stalling. Running 2 or more would be too much since you don't really want to see her every match but at the same time she's a nice tech against aggro if you need to buy a turn to otk.
>Also overall how does otk feels compare to tempo?
It's okay, I like it better than tempo because it has a nice matchup against haven and that's all I'm facing besides blood.
>When do you decide to use the removal and when to get on board?
The priority is to evo Princess Mage and Feena, while keeping the 0 cost cards to execute the otk. So you will be using them on turn 4-6 most likely.
All otk decks now have gobbu 100% fetching roach, due to Elf Twins' Assault, so you want to play her on t3 if possible but Lilac is also pretty good, use her and evo if necessary to remove a big threat you can't deal with otherwise.
Other than that, it's just standard forest stuff.
If you are having too much trouble then just watch some videos on youtube and openrec.
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>>181841051
Players complained that people surrendered before they got to see their ebin lethals
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>>181835119
Oz and Snow White are good though.
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>AA0 to Master are 17k points
>Master to Grandmaster is only 10k
Wtf cygames?
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>>181841062
I like her old (gasp). Why did they change her lines entirely?
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>>181841390
I want to have sex with oz's voice.
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>>181836782

My steam shadowverse is updating for the second time today.

Did this happen to anyone else?
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>>181835119
>Snow White bad
She is absolutely amazing in setting up dogs, pinging to put things to Banish/Teena/TinSoldier range, destroying Grimnir, surviving Themis and all that jazz.
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>>181841712
i hope they are going to put the premades in the shop, but its probably nothing
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>>181839682
I'm on the fence of crafting three alices, snow whites, and beauty and the beasts, myself. Possibly two spawns. After that, I think I'm fully set for the expansion on legos, then I can save gold and vials for the next expansion.
Are these bad ideas? Should I wait for July 29 and the possible nerfs?
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>>181841879
They've never nerfed leggos.
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>>181841405
AA0-AA3 is 4 ranks.
>>
Daria is underpowered
buffs when
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>>181841879
dont craft the spanws, they are going to nerf baphomet and you will not get back those vials you used crafting the spawns
alice and snow white are more safe to craft
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>>181841694
I hate MAO's character in iM@S but every other time I hear her in something else her voice is pure sex.
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>>181841712
Updated once, didn't notice anything happening aside from having to reset language/speech and settings.
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>>181841865

Oh. Okay. I'll be nice if they do.
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>Dragon Summoner can fetch Dragon Summoner
This feels like a mistake.
>>
I need a concede please

79926
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>>181842136
it's more draw than anything but yeah it's kinda shit that it fetches itself
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>>181842136
>he thought they gave a usable card to dragon in WD
Silly anon
Dragon doesn't deserve good cards for banishing KMR's cool little forest amulets
I mean limiting design space
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>>181812613
you can literally hear isabelle's cunt dry up when kyle says he ran away from the dragon. who knew she was so superficial
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>>181842136
I dropped this shit card the moment this happened.
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>>181842267
That's how women are you virgin
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>>181841938
Yeah. I guess I'll wait a bit on the nerfs for neutral spawn blood. no way in hell it's not gonna be nerfed, right?
r-right?
>>181842027
Alices and Snow White it is.
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>>181842187
Thank you Urias
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>>181842136
If only this crap was 2/2

But nah, 2 cost 1/2 can fetch anything.
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>>181842136
Might as well have been a summoner that fills the board with 1/1 dragon whelps for jabby.
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>>181842637
>2/2 draw
i mean, we are already used to obscene crap like 2pp 3/3 rush but come on
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>>181840716
I don't even run neutral memes to cuck spawnfags.
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>>181842381
baphomet is probably doomed
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>>181842673
I'd rather have them make jabber cost 7 and not fucking 8
Feels like everyone gave up on making him work
At this point windmills and classical storm is the only thing left for dragon
And both of these lose to neutral openings
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>>181842728
Witch of sweets
>>
anyone fucking asked for shit neutral expansion?
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>>181842728
Unica is 2/2 heal. So what?
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>>181841062
Thanks once again. I am planning to try out otk because tempo just doesn't cut it anymore. Then again death breath and wards in general will be more of an issue with otk.
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>>181842728
How about 2/1: fanfare: draw a dragoncraft follower(except dragon summoner)
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"the expansion won't change the meta at all"
Where are these retards?
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>>181842873
>>181842893
she's not neutralcraft so she can't be overstatted bullshit :^)
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Amulet expansion when?
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>>181843054
they hide until the leaks start
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Sure is fun when EVERYTHING in your deck is reach. I'm reliving Daria but worse. And who the fuck thought Sabreur was fine when they printed it?
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>>181843054
it is meme posting man
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>>181843024
2/1 is a buff in this particular meta but one way or the other, it really shouldn't fetch itself.
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>>181843275
>playing haunted house memes

You deserved that loss.
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>>181843275
the ones who maked the other blood cards of this expansion
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>>181843275
But it has a downs----
>2 free damage to any enemy
>2 free heal
>unconditional bane
>defensive stats
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>>181843054
imagine how shit the next expansion will be

thye have to power creep this shit
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>>181843275
Blood has such insane cards compared to most other classes, they would be pain in the ass even without neutrals.
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>>181843275
nice meme deck senpai
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>>181843536
BKB is a fucking leggo tier bronze.
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>>181843502
they don't really have to powercreep
just provide more options
they don't have to be the best options
they just have to be there
see: wolfbolt, nep, etc
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>>181834465
Switch tsundere/Kiss with Righteous/Urd and you're good.
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>>181843116
Forestcraft amulet
>Crystalia paradise
>4PP
>Whenever you play a card that cost 5PP or more, reduce the cost of fairies in your hand to 0
>Each turn, you can evolve a follower that cost 3 or less for free

Deepwood cavern
>3PP
>countdown (15)
>Last word: summon a deepwood anomaly and give it storm

Forest of illusion
>2PP
>Countdown (3)
>at the end of your turn, return a random enemy follower or amulet into its owner's hand.
>>
Do you guys remember when people used to say "Blood will never be good unless Vengeance is remade"?
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>>181843536
They have shit for draw and run out of steam faster than neutral Sword if they don't draw Baphomet/Gobu. It doesn't happen often but people are so blinded by the current situation they forget how janky blood is in general that a midrange would never be viable without Spawn closing it out early.
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>>181843709
tove is a fucking lego tier bronze. It's on the level of cinderella and snow white.
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>>181843757
who knew giving a craft OP as fuck cards made it good?

Tove, Sabruer, BKB, Spawn.

Shit, you give those cards to any craft and they'll be tier 1.
>>
How the fuck do I deal with B&B as heaven?
Not to mention that the've finally did what everyone told them years ago and made gobbu pull out roach exclusively, they also get a better Aegis.
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>>181843757
And none of the broken shit cards that pushed them over the top need vengeance.
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>>181843116
>2pp forestcraft amulet
>Elfhelm
>Fanfare: Put a fairy into your hand.
>Whenever a fairy comes into play give all allied followers +1/+1.

>3pp forestcraft follower
>Fanfare: If 2 or more fairies have been destroyed this game, put a Elfhelm into play.

There, now spamming fairies does something.
>>
Do you keep Elf Twins' Assault against Bloodniggers?
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>>181843757
Doesn't apply in this case since pretty much all of the cards introduced ignore vengeance mechanics.

Any deck can be amazing if you just give it overstatted overpowered bullshit ignoring the class mechanics.
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Ops, forget to add a line to deepwood cavern
>Whenever a fairy is destroyed, reduced the countdown by 1
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>>181843951
No but I usually click menu and concede instead.
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>>181843951
It's one of the best removals in the game.
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>>181843884
Just acolyte's light bro
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>>181842136
Dragon summoner fetches Fortes for the win.
She is good, just wish she was 2/2 or 2/1
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>>181843884
>better aegis
>dies to other followers
>can be transformed
>conditional

I don't mind if we switch legendaries. Also just ward it bro.
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>>181844178
If she didn't fetch herself you could just run 3 Summoner, 3 Forte and a neutral engine.

Or 3 Summoner, 3 Aiela, 3 Sibyl and then neutral ramp win cons.

Why does she fetch herself aaaaaa
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>>181843721
Yes they do, this is a cardgame and it's a rule every expansion has to bruteforce a new meta.
>>
>literally cannot get a single win with Aegis.
How the fuck do I pilot this shit deck?
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>>181844585
Is notr your problem if you can't pilot control decks
>>
do people play spawn anymore? It's all just neutral hyper aggressive blood now.
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>>181842267
>superficial
Judging people by their deeds and merits rather than by how strong your LOVE is is the opposite of superficial.
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>>181844585
just themis bro
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>>181844717
>""""""""""control"""""""""""""
You literally can't deal with the board flood until turn 6 and by then you're dead.
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>>181844585
just themis bro
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>>181844585
By playing Seraph instead.
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I wish fairy dragon is 0/2 and fanfare:gain +1/+1 for every fairy destroyed this game, whenever a fairy is destroyed, gain +1/+1 instead of the current garbage.
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>>181843884
>what everyone told them years ago
That was not possible until ETA, too inconsistent and still is, a bit better now.
>B&B as heaven
Sometimes i was able to finish them off using strong follower evolve like Curate. Iron Maiden or Naoise can delay face damage a bit.
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https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.69MKa.69MKa.6GeeA.6GeeA.68zQq.68zQq.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvAi.6H0p2.6H0p2.68zBM.68zBM.68zBM.6CsCi.6CsCi.6GbTM.6GbTM.6GbTM.6D9ks.6D9ks.6D9ks.6H2m2.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.6GztY.6GztY.61Pni.61Pni.6GgLi.6GgLi.65Zv6.65Zv6.65Zv6.6CsCY.6CsCY

How does this deck look like?Anything i need to change up?
Main wincon is the canopies into arrietti.
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Do i craft a storm, aegis or neutral haven
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>>181843754
>Play Deepwood Cavern
>Blast it with Execution
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>>181826735
Luna is just one letter away from being "anal" backwards
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>>181845027
Niether. All haven decks are complete shit.
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>>181845089
you target your own amulets with execution
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>>181845027
Aegis is the safest bet. It'll only get better as haven gets more removal/stall tools as time goes on.
Storm is probably better though.
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>>181838812
>>181838812
>needed even more amulet destruction
Aside from Rune shit the only relevant card that could do this was Bahamut.
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>>181845027
Don't do it just craft or play spawn because fuck off
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>>181845187
>>181845089
can't*. fuck
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>>181845027
Aegis is played in tournaments and high ladder. Storm and neutral are usually combined right now, it's up to your preference.
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>>181845217
Bahamut sucks against haven's amulets. What we meed is a neutral lightnijg blast.
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>>181844770
They still play him but it's getting harder now that every class runs their own spawn counters so they often wait for turn 8 instead.
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>>181845447
>What we meed is a neutral lightning blast.
What is Odin
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>>181845681
8PP. We need something with flexibility and lower PP cost.
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>>181845768
Neutral lighting blast would be 7pp.
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>>181845768
6pp at best or else it'll be a better acolytes light. Thus it's pretty much turning lightning blast for every class.
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>>181845447
>neutral banish fucking everything
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>>181845902
>Mildly Shocking Zap 7PP
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>>181844851
Run Teena you shit.
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How will they nerf spawn without touching the lego itself?
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A normal game of arena.
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>>181845997
4pp spell that banishes all ambushed followers, including your own.

5pp spell that banishes all countdown amulets with last words with 1 countdown left.

4pp follower that banishes an amulet on evo and does 1 damage to all enemy followers.

All 3 neutral.
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>>181845997
It's as if that card existed once. Surely it must've been a balanced card. It's just banish.
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>>181845217
Amulets are already shit and unplayed
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>>181846259
>Go first
>Fair

Good joke.
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>>181846198
But the lego itself is ok
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>>181846198
Baphomet and Goblin Leader are definitely going to be hit. Spawn wasn't doing well in aggro blood or control blood until the neutral list came together, so that might be enough on its own.
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>>181846139
>they have 2 tove and 3 goblins on board
Nice board clear, bro
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Just played a sword player in ranked that didn't play a single unit but rope me every single turn. What the fuck is wrong with this cucks?
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New thread
>>181846550
>>181846550
>>181846550
>>181846550
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>>181846463
>if you try to counter me, you eat 6/8 face damage anyway xD
>ok
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>>181846463
16 face damage ambushed isn't fine.
>>
48247

Can I get someone to pass turns so I can get both the daily and one of the private matches done? Thanks in advance.
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>>181845997
Super duper lightning blast
>4PP
>randomly banish a follower or an amulet (can be either side)
>enhance (8) banish fucking everything on both boards
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>>181846504
>complaining about Tove when you have snow white to counter it
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>>181846564
>20 damge from nothing with roach is ok
>10 damage with albert is ok
>auto win with seraph is ok
But blood can't have nice things
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>>181846770
>implying I draw that shit.

Only neutral blood allowed to have perfect draws all the time.
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>>181846613
But it's only 16 damage on turn 7 with an evo if you don't have any wards. Assuming you can ward and they can't remove your wards you'll be fine.

>>181846850
They shouldn't be allowed to 16 face on turn 7 you fucking cunt.
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>>181846850
>ignoring what turn that shit happens on
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>>181846198
Spawn itself is fine. CBlood is doing nothing and it relies just as much, if not more, on Spawn to win.
Change Baphomet so it stops working with Spawn and Neutral Spawn won't even be a deck anymore.
Neutral Blood without turn 6 Spawn is nothing special.
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>>181848265
>nothing special
Yeah all of those new blood cards with top tier neutral synergies are nothing special.
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Is this guy telling me I'm garbage?
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>>181850496
yes
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