/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

Steve The Wageslave

In response to that guy asking me if I got through the tutorial, I've gotten partway through but not fully. I've made a general stockpile, an entrance, a chilling area for everyone, and then a little 3x3 farm. I plan to go back and get it done while I'm in more of the mood, but I had to quit because I've been feeling kind of apathetic lately.

>>181780578
Oh, and I was using the wiki tutorial

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I did it. I poisoned the alcohol.

>>>181766754
am I the only person who digs straight down to the magma and sets up forges there?

>>181780578
Not that guy, but you're on the way.

The dorf fort learning curve visits these stops:

1. Embarking
2. Understanding what the hell is on the screen
3. Understanding that everything is in a menu and discovering that you can draw rooms and stuff
4. Keeping your fortress fed and drunk
5. Figuring out how to deal with invaders
6. Figuring out how to play a single fortress for longer than a couple of years and still have fun
7. Figuring out how to tell interesting stories about that one time you sat in one place and watched dorfs do mainly uninteresting things for twelve straight hours.

It looks like you're part way into 4, which for you is going to be satisfied with caravans and your farm.

What's the PDF walkthrough that someone mentioned? Only heard of the Wiki one.

>>181781041
You monster.

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>thinking gorilla isn't gonna get brainhammar'D

Pfft.

>>181781051
I always do this.

>>181781738
It's either you get crabbo'd, or the gorilla gets crabbo'd. I don't know which one you'd enjoy the most, I know what the thread would enjoy though.

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>>181782296
I would enjoy bouncing the crab off the walls of the arena, that's for sure.

>>181781051
how about save coming in and out whenever you discover a cavern on your way down. I want to be able to breach them when I feel like it and also don't want the FPS loss.

Are Reachers supposed to not be on the military attack list? I can't even see it.

I did several tests to see who was the strongest race between minotaurs, trolls, yetis and sasquatch. Each test consists of 18 sets, in each one of those sets a hundred members of one race will fight a hundred members of another race in individual combat, also, in each set the fighters will have different skills and/or equipment. Also, I removed the natural skills of the minotaurs to compare them better with the other races, if they had their natural skills they would have just wiped the floor with every opponent.

I'm not sure if I explained it correctly, but you can check here the results and the observations I made, if you take a look for yourself you'll understand it better: https://pastebin.com/SVb8v4vW

If you just want to know who's the strongest then here is the ranking: Minotaurs > Yetis = Sasquatch(physically they are the same, same attributes, same body parts, same size, etc. look at the raws if you want to check it yourself) > Trolls.

>>181781041
I'm going to poison yours now.
Anyone who needs a non-poisoned alcoholic home, come to my new fort.
I need new military dwarves, which actually have a high survival rate.

>Giant Bat leaves mildorf lying in a heap on the cavern floor unable to move
>send two squads after that fucker
>they pelt it with bone arrows until it falls out of the sky
>lands next to the immobilized first dorf
>squad can't actually reach them because of all the little pathways and shit
>paraplegic dorf spends the next 9 pages slowly mangling the bat's head, the only thing he can reach

>>181784285
That's fucking golden

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it's too god damn early for weretortoise infiltrations

>>181785938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNj9bXKGOiI

I went on vacation and I couldn't keep up with dwarf fortress threads.

Can someone give me a summary of the tourney and/or the compiled info about it.

>>181786540
Elves keep getting BTFO'd by underdog humans
Extremely intense match between amethyst elemental and elkperson
There was a dog
This weekend we get to see whether the tournament is in grave danger of being taken over by an evil supercrab or not

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>>181785938
it's all over

>>181787824
RIP

>>181781738
Real talk here.

Does anyone here actually find female dwarves with beards actually attractive? Like, do you jack off to them?

>>181787824
It was inevitable.

>offering 10000 dorfbucks to the elves
Maybe I can bribe them into looking the other way at my decimation of this forest

>>181788932
I come from /tg/
The amount of people that support them would lead credence to that, yes.

>>181789134
That's strange.

I frequent /d/ and /trash/ and yet I've never seen threads dedicated to females with beards, you'd think a fetish like that would be perfect for those boards.

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>figure in recent news happens to be related to the liaison
>refers to him as 'my uncle'
neat. also Zefon knightedchannel is a trick assed bitch, he gets kidnapped multiple times every year, usually by the same Moblured dude. this has to be a first though.
>gets kidnapped from Coastalvice as usual
>rather than be rescued/return home, goes elsewhere only to be kidnapped again

>>181789367
It's probably a meme
I really hope it's a meme

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>>181789367
I'm pretty convinced the people that do are just memeing. Or its just the same faggot posting it every day until you like it.

>>181788932
I don't at all ironically, as a tranny

I like the idea that, for tolkien-style dwarves with bearded females, the males find the clean unbeared faces of other races' females to be creepy and unnatural, though. That said, dwarf fortress female dwarves BY DEFAULT do not have beards, and I'm probably not interested in adding the brackets required to add that in.

>>181789456
>>181789604
Yeah, you're right, it has to be a meme.

Does anyone know how to make the raw for an ability that lets you temporarily transform into another creature using the natural abilities menu?

>>181789767
Hold on Max you're a tranny?

Man and I thought you couldn't get worse.

thoughts on urist vs dag? I'd like to think dag will win but the wolf was kinda useless in round one

>>181790448
Maybe with some discipline skill the wolf will be more useful.

But I hope Dag fucking dies, JC has to be avenged.

>>181790448
Dag is dead as fuck. 50 points per match is nothing and the wolf is only going to get more useless the more dodge everyone else has.

Any downsides to drawbridgeing all these worthless human visitors that won't leave?

>>181790890
>not conscripting them into a foreign legion for all your dangerous military jobs, or just building an arena and making them fight FBs/each other

>>181789134
I think night trolls are fantastic hentai subject matter. I wonder if I can get an artfag on /d/ to make some about them.

>>181789767
It must be stopped with violent force.

>>181791408
ShindoL would be perfect for something like that.

>>181791408
If you're persistent enough you'll likely end up with something, at least.

Using LNP, and in the customize graphics options, what's the difference between FONT and GRAPHICS_FONT? Like, what do the two do differently?

>dwarf experiencing mortal fear after seeing a dog kill a weasel man half the map away
You are so shitty, Stukos. SO SHITTY.

>>181790096
Who the fuck is Max?

>>181792308
Oh wait so you're not Max, damn, that's disappointing.

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>>181789134

That's just normal /tg/, though. Pic related.

>>181792916
Monster girls are one thing, women with beards are another.

I've seen a lot of porn threads about monster girls, but not even one about women with beards, so that makes me think it's just a meme.

>human
>grab head with right upper arm
>grab lower left arm with right lower arm
eh

>>181794038

>grab back tooth with right hand

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Is my fort a cool fort?

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>>181794498
This is the surface level.

>>181794678
>>181794498
10/10 island fort

how does decapitation work? with a two handed sword am I better off stabbing them in the neck/throat or slashing?

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>when it's bayberry season

What are the first pieces of armor one should forge? Chainmail, helm, and greaves?

>>181794038
>not grabbing their head then catching their hand in your armpit
Pleb

>>181794498
what's the thingy in the right corner's purpose?

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>>181788932
A clean shaven dwarf is an atrocity. I don't jack off to them but it irks the shit out of me that Toady removed the brackets from female dwarves who originally did have beards.

>>181789767
I'm not adding something, I'm rectifying a mistake.

>>181790096
>wut
>>181792308
>>181792835

>>181797027
it appears to be his above ground entrance

>>181796785
>not catching their weapon with your hand
>then grabbing their head with your armpit
>then kicking them in the teeth before throwing them into a tree and keeping the weapon

>>181797303
how does one kick someone's teeth in when their head is in their armpit

>>181794678
>>181794498
top titty. the trap abuse on the surface is a little much though

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>>181794498
>spatters of vomit
>CLA
>room full of a bunch of levers
I dig it, how far is the drop off the weapon trap spiral?

>>181797546
>dorfs

>>181797546

The wrestling interface lets you play a ludicrous game of lethal twister on your enemies.

>Grab third toe, right foot with upper right arm
>Grab second lower back tooth with lower right arm
>Grab neck with hand
>Squeeze

Dwarves are made of noodles, along with everyone else.

I have an odd issue of dwarves not storing plump helmets in barrels/pots in my main stockpile. Not at my computer at the moment so I can't post screen shots.

I have a feeder style set up. The first food stock pile only accepts food that is grown next to it (also accepts eggs), no barrels (keeps the farmers farming) and accepts items from anywhere.
The second stockpile accepts pretty much all food but from links only.
The first stock pile is giving items to the second. The dwarves are moving it across no issue but won't store plump helmets in the god damn barrels/pot. Other plants and eggs that are being moved across are being put into pots and barrels.

Any idea on what ia going on?

>>181793929

Who said anything about monster girls? /tg/ isn't exclusive towards them, /tg/ would fuck anything vaguely female.

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>>181797692
20z lead floor with retracting spikes (linked to those two pressure plates by the meeting hall doors) , there's a ladder that goes all the way up in case gobos wanna try again. The walls are smoothed all the way down to prevent climbers from avoiding their imminent explosion.

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>>181798813
>ladder back up from the deathpit
Well done.

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>>181797027
>>181797176
He's right, the entrance is right here.
The bridge closes the outer wall and opens a path to the pit.

>immigrant dwarves are coming in with skills in bowdwarf
>the most common instrument in terms of experience among my dwarves isn't even one of my civs', it's the neighboring elves'

What the fuck? Thank god I started this fort when I did, my civilization got so small it'd started to lose its own culture.

>>181799086
brutal

nite /dfg/

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>>181800316
good night

>leg gets chopped off
>no crutched
fuck, might just restart

are there any good save files designed for adventure mode?

>>181794498
>>181794678
I don't hate it, the design is nice and the tileset is ok. But I dislike the lazy defenses of trap spam, and I really dislike the whole concept of single-purpose z-level sprawl. I mean, your embark probably has 100+z, why pack all your housing or workshops or stockpiles or whatever into one level?

>>181801115
Probably. Hunt around on succession-game forums.

I just found my armorer dead on a top of a tree.

>>181802020
must have been a black dwarf

>mangled clown body found at shrine
what the fuck is a clown

>>181799086
>focused
what

wait so if lashers are blunt do I use steel?

>>181802852

They come from the circus tent, and they bring you fun.

>>181803445

Silver would be best in that case.

>>181780578
not sure if this is any help but I gave up the first time trying to learn this game and actually learned it a year later watching a funny youtube man stream it. he played the game horribly, but I git the basics from him and used the wiki sparingly when I was totally lost, somehow found that easier.
I watched vinesauce joel, if you're interested

>>181803947
Joel played dwarf fortress? DF seems like an incredibly hard game to make interesting when streamed, even for them. I'm interested partly just wondering how the fuck he managed it.

>>181802957
Set your needs right and it's easy, otherwise you can use dfhack.

>>181803445
[ATTACK:EDGE:150:10:lash:lashes:NO_SUB:5000]

>put away slab
>you don't have a suitable container
I can't get rid of the thing. I have my sword and shield and this slab juggling whenever I sheath my stuff to climb trees. How do I get rid of it?

>>181804669
Never mind, I forgot about [d]rop
it's 2 AM, that's why

>Posting is up 41% from same date last year.

Guess Tourneys brings in the tourists

>>181804429
Different anon here, you should definately watch his fort mode videos if you got the time. Here's a clip of his adventure mode shenanigans: https://youtu.be/40mwrfXdtRw

>A vile force of darkness has arrived!
>they're all dwarves
This is even worse than the multicultural siege with every surface species represented.
Something is happening out there in the world and I don't like it one bit.

>>181806085
I looked up his DF vids after he was mentioned and fuck he's funny.

bump my dorfs

>>181796516
Weapon > Chain mail > Wooden shield > Helm > High boots > Gauntlets > Greaves > Leather cloak > Breastplate

>>181807426
>dorf site gets captured by gobbos
>all dorfs who live there are now gobbos
that's all there is to it

I learned the secrets of life and death. That was very satisfying!

>>181811232
It is horrifying.

>>181812369
>4 am
anon

>>181812554
like

So a FB came by with a deadly dust. It was quite easy to get rid of though, only one dead.

However, some gems my jeweler is using in a strange mood is now "coated with <FB name>'s frozen extract".

Any idea what this means?

>>181813662
theres some of the FB's extract on the gems, pretty self explanatory. not sure if it affects anything at all. If its poisonous or something handling it might be dangerious.

>>181814396
Hmm nothing has happened.I guess if there was something special about the raw gem it would disappear when used for an artifact.

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Fuck I want some strawberries now

>>181797161
>Toady removed the brackets from female dwarves who originally did have beards.
He didn't.
When he first added beards, he decided to leave female dwarves without, but placed the tag, without brackets, in the raw entry so others could easily mod them back if they wanted.

Any reason to make squads of less than 10 dorfs?

Any drawfags or really anyone with a program that can be used to make pretty pictures want to draw all of the Tournament competitors? They all deserve atleast one drawing to represent themselves.

>>181818929
If you want to order around less than 10 dwarves or if you dont have that many dorfs to spare to fight.

>>181819067
Also there might be some differences in training but im not sure about how it is affected.

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Well this is new to me, I blame it on the brown recluse spider people

>>181819147
Yeah that's mainly why I ask.

>>181819830
If you have the training schedule properly set up, it shouldn't matter.

>>181818991
Be the change you want to see on the world.
The has been fan art of a couple of them, Stabo and Herne for sure.

>>181819891
Elaborate

>human bard withdraws from society
okay...
>human bard has claimed a craftdwarfs workshop
Wait.. what?
>want shells
Fuck me

>>181820947
Oh good!
You can execute him without having to create some contraption!

>>181820947
Looks like he's making masterwork conch.

>>181821164
So far I have just walled the workshop.
he'll die sooner or later, right?
>>181821205
Problem is... I have no ocean nearby and the caravan didn't have any shell.

Wait... A FB made of shells died in the caverns to some troglodytes. Wouldn't its corpse contain shells?

>>181821426
should be, but sometimes you dont get any for some reason. ive had a fb moon snail drop like 70 shells and a titan lobster drop 0.

>>181821802
Hmm I can't seem to butcher the corpse and can't see any shells.

Oh well, he'll die at some point. A shame about the marble bookbinders lying in the workshop.

>>181821854
the corpse may be too far away from your butcher's shop. try to set up a temporary butcher shop close to the corpse, or try dumping it closer to the current shop. I think the corpse and the shop need to be on the same level.

also, everything can be butchered assuming it's made out of flesh. if the fb was made out of anything other than flesh, it's not butcherable.

>>181820947
>Humans can enter strange moods if they join your civ
That's kinda neat, they hang around dwarves so long that they pick up their habits

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>tfw literally can't play doorfort at night
How the FUCK do you learn to touch type /dfg/?

>>181824197
I did it in grade school
Get one of those kid's teach typing programs

>>181824197
I have LED lights under my keys

>>181824197
Turn on a light you broke ass nigga

>>181824197
It helps to get so used to where your keys are that you instinctively know where to press.

>>181824197
this:
>>181824760

also, not this:
>>181824668
it's a neckbeard flag if I ever saw one.

>>181824197
>>181824534
>>181824668
>>181824840
stop playing in the dark, it's awful for your eyes. you'll regret it in 10-20 years.

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>>181824886
Not really, I've needed a new keyboard after my previous one had a spilled milk incident thanks to my cats, and buddy was selling his pic related cheap as fuck, so I bought it.
Lack of numpad hurt so I had to buy a separate numpad.

>>181825079
That's a bit overkill.
Shit'll light the whole room up.

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>>181825079
You could see that fuckin' keyboard from space with how bright it is.

>>181825153
>>181825238
It was not nearly as bright, the pic is lying, but what can you expect from shit pics on aliexpress.
I have a different one I'm waiting for now, that has backlit keys and a numpad as well, shit's mostly for looks, and I play with a lamp on anyway.

>>181825079

I'm jelly.

>>181799137
The fuck is the big x in the middle of the wall?

>>181789447

Either he has the worst luck, or a love that dare not speak its name.

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>>181825469
They aren't really that expensive
60$ at most when importing from china
Shit's not super good quality, but it works for what I need, and since I live with my parents, I get most of my paycheck for me after helping them with bills and shopping
>>181825495
I think that's up/down staircase

>>181825495
Access for the marksdwarves probably.

>>181825598
It's 1 x in a 2x2 square. If it was up/down stairs it would be 4 of them.

>>181827716
But anon
Those walls are 3 thick
and that staircase is in the middle of them

I trimmed my beard yesterday and now I feel like a retard.

>>181829551
Shit I fear that might happen to me.

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>>181829551
>>181829740

I feel ya, boys.

>>181829993
Without a beard, we lose our sense of selves. We change, becoming more and more potato-like in appearance, until eventually we lose everything that made us "us".

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>>181830312

>>181829551
>>181829740
>>181829993
>t. deluded neckbeards who think they looked good WITH beards

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>>181830829
DELETE THIS

tfw no beard genes

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>tfw no neckbeard genes
awesome feel desu

<tfw no genes

>>181832370
With a face like that, having a beard is the least of your problems.

>>181832370
But if you're a neckbeard, you just shave your neckbeard and leave a real beard.

I was going to make a joke about having too many genes, but it's surprisingly hard to find pictures of dudes with down's syndrome and a good beard. I just wanted you all to know I tried.

>be asleep
>dreaming some shit kinda like a hyperrealistic final fantasy xi
>in this place with fomors standing around
>know they have real gear
>also know they're way higher level
>dumbass elf dude in party wants the red mage hat off this mithra fomor
>be like fuck naw man you gonna die
>he grabs it
>she dispels his reraise and walks over to him while drawing her saber
>he is crying and begging us to help him
>she slowly inserts her sword into his eye and pushes it through his skull as he screams
>blood spurting out as his body twitches while he dies
>shit is fucking horrific
>casually grabs her hat while he hangs off her sword
>puts it on and lets him fall to the ground
>turns to look at us
>we're like fuck naw we ain't with that fool
>she shrugs and walks back to where she was standing
>elf dude is in party chat
>say that probably hurt
>says it was fucking excruciating
>tried to warn him
Ability to interact with a weapon and slowly stab/slice/slit bodyparts when, Toady?

>>181825598
They're like $50 for a velocifire with what are basically brown switches, same price for the clacky as fuck redragon with blue knockoffs I got beforehand.

>>181829551
As you should.

>>181830829
Nobody looks better shaven, that's shit you do when you're a boy, before you learn how to be patient and put away childish shit like razors.

>>181834564
I just dreamed of a really big horse eating the wooden posts of its pen and running away.

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>>181835091
>multitile creatures with construction smashing abilities when Toady?

>>181823880
>>181822726
So I haven't found the shells and the guy is now "struck by melancholy". Is it safe to release him and get the stuff at the workshop.

Also, he's a dwarf, not a human, I seem to have mixed some of them up.

literally 10 tiles away from my starting hamlet. you think I can take him? I've got a shortsword, dagger wielding demigod goblin.

>>181835474
Take who?

>heaps of silver nuggets lying in the path I need to fill with magma
>nobody will pick it up and put them in the nugget stockpile I made just ten feet away
>can't figure out how to do it with work orders, or if hauling jobs even can be done via work orders

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>>181835474
>>181835549

forgot pic, and have a 90s cooldown. It's almost like captcha has an AI built in to administer cool down and connection losses in the most annoying ways.

are temperatures difficult to manage? just been going with "warm" since the beginning

>>181835438
melancholy is safe, though he's a useless dorf forever now and may actually try to kill himself eventually. the only mood failure condition you really need to worry about is 'goes berserk' and they won't give you too much time to fret over it, they just snap and start battling everyone until they die. I actually just had one put down in my tavern by a miner who'd kept her pick handy

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>>181835631
welp I guess I dont have a choice now

I caught a gorlak! what can I do with this? they're humanoid right, does that mean I can train it or make it a citizen? I wish my fort to have a gimpy little mascot

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Werewombat infestation in my fortress. Not good. Send help.

>>181835984
oh no

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>>181836039
>be sapient little cave philosopher
>think about how interesting would be to meet others to speak with
>go to investigate what sounds like dorfs digging
>oh fraptious day caloo calay
>get caught in cage trap and displayed out in front of the fort

>>181835984
Got level 6 combat skills so if you're higher you're fine. Have some drumsticks I carved to bash rocks with like a proper dwarf for good luck.

>>181836345
he's just lucky he took the stairs and not the mineshaft.
>trap mineshaft with weapon traps meant to take a troll
>all it does is butcher elk birds
it's ridiculous, they regularly get slapped back 8+ tiles to slam into the wall where they came from

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>>181836345
>>181836201
it started well with me slashing his feet and getting a good occasional stab in.
He just had more stamina than me and out-bit me to death. Next to my corpse are the dagger and prepared liver I threw in the two last turns before my death, I got the chance to do so by somehow rolling away from him (he was on the ground too).

>>181835683
Rivers freeze, that's pretty much it.

>>181836345
I feel like if /dfg/ were a bar max would be that one sun-touched regular who absent-mindedly chats with everyone, and happily joins random people's conversations to help, most of the time confusing the newer patrons.

What the fuck are 'current game features'?

>>181836757
Or dry out.

>>181836909
I'm not a newer patron but I am confused by the random drunk who keeps accusing strangers of being someone named Max, and seems to think we should all know who that is.

>>181837525
Max the six-foot suit-wearing dog from infamous private eye duo Sam and Max.

anyone know why so many 4chan boards seem to be down? even /qa/ is affected, so I don't know where to check/ask.

>>181830829

I looked fine with it but I'm starting my beard growth over and I just feel retarded without one.

>>181838517
They work fine for me.

>>181838864
>last post on /int/: 3 hours ago
>last post on /p/: 3 hours ago
>last post on /vr/: 3 hours ago
>last post on /lit/: 3 hours ago
>last post on /an/: 3 hours ago
yeah, they work "fine"

>>181839514
Oh, I didn't look at the time, I thought you were saying that you couldn't that the boards were down completely.

>>181836909
Sun-touched?

>>181837664
OH SHIT, MY IDENTITY

>>181839514
all your other boards suck pussy my lad

>>181841287
t. underage who only visits /v/, /b/ and /pol/

>>181841496
Anon your boards suck, /int/ is literally /pol/ 2.0, /vr/ is autistic, same as /lit/, and I didn't know people actually visited /p/ and /an/.

>>181841743
/vg/
/lit /
/mu/
/his/
/r9k/
/wsr/

fucking trees are getting revenge for all that killed dwarves.

>>181842198
/vg/ depends on the general, it's mostly shit though, /mu/, well, I don't need to say anything about /mu/, /his/, /lit/ and /pol/ are the same thing with different names, /r9k/ is fucking shit and you should stop visiting that board.

/wsr/ can be nice though.

>>181842452
>/lit/ and /pol/ are the same thing with different name
I haven't been to /lit/ for a few years, but back when I did (2014 was the last time), it certainly wasn't. Has it changed in the recent years?

>>181842838
Meant to say /int/, not /lit/.

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>>181841743
>/int/ started in 2010
>/pol/ started in 2011
>/int/ is somehow derived from /pol/

>>181843137
What? It's true, it became /pol/ 2.0.

Look at /v/ too, it's full of /pol/ shit now and it was created several years before /pol/.

>>181843487
it's always easy to spot /pol/tards on /int/. they stand out a lot there. they usually distinguish themselves in the following ways:
>being american
>being 100% oblivious of humour and satire
>acting butthurt in every single thread

that aside, let's stop talking about board culture and start talking about DF again. I just asked about the other boards because I wanted to know what was happening. they seem to be working again now.

Dammit /dfg/, don't die.

>embark literally right next to goblins, touching embark edges
>check legends mode first, confirm that goblin civ has no active wars and is healthy
>inflate my exported wealth as much as possible for 3 years
>invasions are literally 3 goblins, nothing more
FUCK YOU TOADY

>>181846059
the wealth has NOTHING to do with it. wipe this meme off the face of the earth.

>>181846489
Just in case.

>>181845704
>when no one is discussing the tourney /dfg/ is dead
We need bloodsports to survive.

Just discovered animal breeding for desired attributes, how do you guys do it?

Can you do the same for dwarfs, it means a lot of micromanagement but it would be worth it

>>181849005
>it would be worth it
it wouldn't.

larger creatures make better soldiers, but it's easier to just make sure to pick large and strong people to have in your militia in the first place. if your militia manages to protect your fort during the duration it takes to raise a new breed of superdorfs, then they are obviously already strong enough not to need the said superdorfs.

>>181848785
Are we the Romans?

>>181849643
Ita.

>>181849643
Ave.

Romanes eunt domus!

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I am getting back into my art after an imposed break, could there be a better subject?

>>181849643
>Romans are too civilised
>Want to gas the elves
>Germans wanted to gas the jews
>Germans are muslims
>Muslims are uncivilised
How did this happen to us, we used to be a Christian board

>>181851368
>could there be a better subject?
Well, we kind of have a tourney going on right now, if you'd like to dwar some of the gladiators, it would be pretty nice, you can check out the fights in the previous threads.

I don't have the link to the tourney doc, but somebody should post it soon.

Anyone have new brackets you want to post? Were your first bracket predictions right?

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>>181851816
I'm not feeling that practised yet (And have fuck all time now), I've not really drawn in a solid decade and I'm developing a style that'll let me do DF justice.

When I get the chance I will do some works for you chaps though, you've been such a sweet audience to me over the years. (Mad props to that other dwrawfag you've got, his scratches were so inspiring.)

Is there a way to mod the game to allow you to use a mineral as an alloying additive but not smelt it into bars by itself?
I want to add the ability to use arsenic ores for alloying copper into arsenical bronze but the ideas of smelting them into arsenic bars seems retarded to me.
Do I need to define a new reaction class?

>>181851368
>>181851816
Like this anon said, first selection for tourneys have taken place, next week the participants will be whittled down to half

>>181851368
draw a crabe killing a doge

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>>181852136
>>181852194
Did something happen to you guys while I was out fishing?

You seem quite keen on this new bloodsport, it's unusual for you guys to put a sport bit on it.

>>181851821
>Were your first bracket predictions right?
fucking terrible, I got 8/16 right in round 1.

>>181852587
Bloodsports are the best kind of sports.

>>181852587
pls be timbukdrew who just came back from the woods

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>>181852774
But why the sport part?

Blood is the BEST KIND of blood.

>>181852975
Sorry Anon, I am another.

>>181853274
Because sometimes things are better if they are organized, with rules and such, that's why we have the "sport" part.

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>>181852194
Sorry, I was far too late, crab already eating shiba.

>>181853572
stabo cleaning UP

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>>181853483
Did someone say organised?

But seriously, I've always wanted it to be possible for the world to fall into a Bloodbowl style peace, where sport breaks out after the wars die down. How bonkers could Toady make a procedural sports system?

But he'll need telling to do it, we neckbreads care not for sports.

>>181853710
Stabo? I'm afraid I've not been with you for a long time, you referring to someone specific?

Why is brass not a weapon metal despite, by raws, being better at every mechanical stat than copper?

>>181853995
Stabo is the brave and heroic crab that struck down a dog in the tourney. Don't listen to others who say otherwise.

>>181853995
Stabo is the evil, backstabbing crab that executed a poor innocent dog in the tourney. Don't listen to others who say otherwise.

>>181854270

That dog was a good boy! A LEGENDARY good boy! And your crab with a knife cut him in half!
I bet you're a crab, too, you soulless monster.

>>181854270
t. Crabo

>>181854434
>>181854541
>>181854725
Lies and slander, this is. Crabo is the hero we all want and need, but the outspoken minority try to convince people they are the majority. Crabo will win, and we will cheer him on!

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threadly reminder

I did a test, this time I made humans with steel hammers fight humans with silver hammers, to see if one was better than the other in certain situations, I'll post the results and observations in the next post, since it's too long for one post, you can also check them out here: https://pastebin.com/MWq7HdkV

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>>181854270
>>181854434
>>181854541
>>181854818
>>181854725
I don't want to take sides here, but as an artist I'm going to need to know critical details like "that fucki'n crab has a knife."

>>181854947

Set 1
Human with steel hammer vs human with silver hammer both with no skills

1# Time
Human with steel hammer: 49
Human with silver hammer: 46

2# Time
Human with steel hammer: 39
Human with silver hammer: 57

3# Time
Human with steel hammer: 52
Human with silver hammer: 43

Set 2
Human with steel hammer vs human with silver hammer both with adept weapon and dodging skill

1# Time
Human with steel hammer: 44
Human with silver hammer: 56


2# Time
Human with steel hammer: 58
Human with silver hammer: 42

3# Time
Human with steel hammer: 48
Human with silver hammer: 52

Set 3
Human with steel hammer vs human with silver hammer both with grand master weapon and dodging skill

1# Time
Human with steel hammer: 48
Human with silver hammer: 52

2# Time
Human with steel hammer: 50
Human with silver hammer: 50

3# Time
Human with steel hammer: 48
Human with silver hammer: 52

Set 4
Human with steel hammer vs human with silver hammer both with steel armor and no skill

1# Time
Human with steel hammer: 49
Human with silver hammer: 49

2# Time
Human with steel hammer: 57
Human with silver hammer: 40

3# Time
Human with steel hammer: 46
Human with silver hammer: 52

Set 5
Human with steel hammer vs human with silver hammer both with steel armor and adept weapon, dodger and armor user skill

1# Time
Human with steel hammer: 50
Human with silver hammer: 49

2# Time
Human with steel hammer: 57
Human with silver hammer: 43

3# Time
Human with steel hammer: 46
Human with silver hammer: 52

Set 6
Human with steel hammer vs human with silver hammer both with steel armor and grand master weapon, dodger and armor user skill

1# Time
Human with steel hammer: 43
Human with silver hammer: 57

2# Time
Human with steel hammer: 48
Human with silver hammer: 52

3# Time
Human with steel hammer: 52
Human with silver hammer: 48

>>181855196
>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xaf7ze5dgC1L4h7Y8flaG6meHZtqiuVj7dojwvQx1yc/edit#gid=1758110815
Character "descriptions" in here somewhere.

>>181855254
First, if you were wondering why I repeated each test three time it's to see if the results keep being similar, or if one time one of the sides just got really lucky.

So, looking at the results, seems like the steel hammers did as well as the silver ones against each other, well, it was already known that silver and steel hammers had very similar effectiveness, but I thought that maybe, with the force translation stuff that was added after the update, something changed and maybe in certain situations a hammer was better than the other, but it doesn't seem like that, atleast not in this situatio. I guess to actually know if one is better than the other you would not only have to test it against each other, but also against all the other weapons, that would take some time.

I'm curious about platinum hammers though, maybe steel or silver hammers are better against them in some situations? I could test it next.

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>>181855324
I absolutely refuse to tell you guys that you're taking this too seriously, but it's a bit scary how ready for me you are.

Has Timbum been gone long?

>>181855543
>I absolutely refuse to tell you guys that you're taking this too seriously, but it's a bit scary how ready for me you are.
I haven't closed the google doc since before the tourney started because I cba to find it again. Linking it to you was easy.

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>>181852194
Not him but i wanted to shitpost.

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>>181855649
I love that you think that's where I felt there was something unusual.

People who play other games don't make engravings on the inside of the internet that record the history of the game they love to this kind of detail, they just don't get the resources we do and you've all run with it so far.

Which is obviously mad, and therefore fantastic.

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Reminder that Stabo is the true villain of Dorf Fort

hello /dfg/

>>181857116
Hello.

>>181855196

Oh yeah, he has a knife. He didn't so much sign up for the tournament as scuttle up to the registrar and attempt to stab him repeatedly, which they took to be equivalent to requesting a tournament slot.

>>181855770
exquisite

>>181856802
stop this shit. stabbo is just a cool meme. not a villain

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>>181853995
>not draining the magma pipe temporarily to smooth the inner walls
I swear, some people don't put any effort into their forts.

stabbo is a force of nature

>caverns I and II are ridiculously steep ramp spaghetti tunnels, made impossible to traverse thanks to trees (haven't even been able to find a single cave creature, probably all of it stuck somewhere)
>caverns III is literally just one supermassive 1z pool of water with trees growing from the bottom
Just fuck my shit up

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>>181857469
Well that's the story to tell when you want them on crabby side, wot a fighter.

>>181857946
>dwarfs with no appreciation for rough stone

I see the m*grants still come.

Do you guys bring the magma up or the fortress down on deep embarks?

>>181858978
I make my fortress in the magma.

>>181858937
sorry, but I don't like this one.

the diagonal parts of the star needs to be one tile thicker, so that you get a stripe of unrevealed stone, like with the horisontal and vertical ones. the diagonal doors in the star look weird too. if I were you, I'd add a second one to be consistent with the horistontal and vertical doors.

>>181855770
Hey that's pretty good

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>>181859348
You can't go one thicker and get a gap when they're diagonal, so the diagonals have to be far thicker.

The diagonal doors are a bit off to me too, but I've started reasoning them to be incredibly secure doors because they're attached on four sides rather than just two.

>>181858937
shalom doy

give me dining room ideas

>>181843487
more like pol became int 2.0

>every board brings up /pol/ for no reason only to complain about them
>subsequently tells anyone who disagrees to go to /pol/
I wish all the people that loved talking about them would go there instead

>find a nice embark site
>'Your selected civilization is dead or dying.'
just

>>181860563
Tourneyanon? Does this mean we're getting the fights tonight?

>>181859879
two tiles thicker should work, and should give both sides of the wall their own distinguishable "facing", like with the non-diagonal walls.

>>181860209
A large oval with a bunch of minecart systems above that directly dump food and drink onto stockpiles/tables at the flick of a lever.

Think sushi train, but with minced plump helmets and at least 10 dedicated cooks/machine operators.


>>181860667
shh no i just forgot to post anonymously

>>181860667
you saw nothing

Is allowing dwarfs to practice religion a mistake?
They seem to spend an inordinate amount of time on praying or meditating or dancing or whatever.

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>>181790004

pls

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>>181860737
Yeah, you can, but I was already wasting so much space with the space in the other walls, and when you're trying to fit the whole fortress proper on a single floor, that won't really do.

Obviously I'm already abusing the shit out of stockpile options, but I've got to make it look somewhat legit.

Trying out Nanoforts until either the next exciting update or I can get a less shit CPU. I suspect I can't fit the fort on a single floor here.

>>181861143
it's what they do while idling instead of just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses

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Well, even though Tourneyanon is clearly not here, I might as well post my finished improvements to Lava Lad.

>>181855770

Draw a Energy drink Stand manned by a Skeleton with name tag Dave
Also a Colosseum in the background and some an large crowd

i like your style

dorfy-anons, help me to design a doft sport.

It must be a fire and forget affair, one which entails setting up a field and then allowing dorf behavior to take over. Ideally, all items needed for play are embark-able. Field setups like workshops and designations/digging should be minimal.

I am contemplating a 3 on 3 sport involving minecarts, logs, stone, and blocks. Dorfs are given standing push orders on minecarts, but also standing orders to make blocks, and standing orders to transfer stone/blocks/wood from stockpiles to minecarts. The team with most minecarts in their corner loses at the end of the game. Game ends when booze or food runs out, and I'll have to see if I can make announcements pause for a message like that.

Field splits in two, enforced by burrow. Food stays in wagon, which is a mutual space for burrows.

Blocks and stone are really just meant to be distractions/dodgeballs, depending on how autonomous dorfs can be in retrieving minecarts that jump track.

I was hoping to use the remaining dwarf as a record keeper, originally because the scoring metric was to see who could collect and manufacture the most blocks while shipping the most stone/log to the other side (as negative points). But, I can't really think of a useful way to split block and stone counts between two burrows. So, maybe some really quick minecart counts are the best.

>>181861293
Not tourneyanon or anything, but I'll add it to the doc once I get everyone's upgrades. We're pretty close.

>>181861293
punch them good larva lad.

punch them good.

>>181861776
>larva lad
heh.

>>181861845
>tfw it's a moth man with a cloak

>>181861845
fuck I do that a lot because I watch a stupid fucking korean man with the alias "Larva" stream starcraft broodwar too much

>>181861940
Incredibly good reason/10

>>181861263
Thumbing their asses doesn't lock them in the idle state for weeks on end though.

So to build a bridge over a moat of some kind I need to channel, build bridge, and then remove upward paths?
If dwarves get stuck after removing UP paths, does that mean you always have to dig a side tunnel out, which means any hostiles that get stuck underneath the bridge should be able to escape?

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>>181852124
Yes, add the reaction class and it will be easy enough.

>>181853274
>>181858937
>>181853995
>>181859879
Hey it's Myne/geometryanon!

>tfw the max fag is behind ALL bearded women posting in the thread
I seriously hope he doesn't force this fetish on his wife

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How the fuck do I play this game

>>181863779
by gitting gudd

>>181863779
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Adventurer_mode
it's not hard, just takes a minute to understand the interface

>>181863779
lick everything

>>181863779
this post made me feel really good

>>181863779
It's arrows and num pad to move, looks like you were trying WASD.

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>>181863551
My beard is enough for her.

>>181863779
Seems like you're pretty good to me.

>>181863551
not all

:^)

>>181863779
you're using wasd
w is wear
d is drop
etc
use arrow keys or numpad

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>>181863779
hurr what a faggot

>tfw update this month
right?

>>181865039
>tfw nopdate NEVER

>you hear a grinding noise
what could it be

>>181866212
It's a portal to the Labyrinth.

>>181866212
it always means the same thing: someone pulled a level and whatever it was hooked up to is set moving (only doors and grates for NPC sites, and only found in dark fortresses and vaults).

>>181866212
>tfw ain't nothin' wrong with a lil bump'n'grind

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does this mean it's safe to go outside? or is the chinchilla gonna try to blend with the other dwarves?

>>181866873
it's safe as long as he doesn't stick around for too long and transforms back

>>181866873

he'll run off the map

>>181866351
>tfw there is no MuMo equivalent in DF

I've made a discovery. if you are trying to dig a path through warm stone, they will stop at every new square, as you know. but if you make every second square a channel instead of a dig designation, they will channel and dig away without stopping.

>>181863779
Man youre a dick, that poor axedwarf just wanted to say hi

BUT YOU WERE SEXING UP THE ROOM

>>181868107
I hope no dwarves died when making that discovery.

>>181866873
Even werehcickens are immensely dangerous. A werechinchilla is like looking into the sun. Stay inside. Never come out.

Also, plz respond to my dorf sports post
>>181861496

https://my.mixtape.moe/olnoza.webm
>soundsense plays the the most sombering music during the height of the plight of the dwarves

First time embarking on an aquifer area, while I am setting up the surface farm, which method do you think is the fastest/strongest to dig through the aquifer, got two copper gear mechanisms and plenty of trees in case I need pumps.

>>181868698
I usually just go around aquifers

>>181868698
Controlled collapse

or pump-smoothing

>>181868435
>he doesn't kill and torture his dwarves left and right, making their lives hell because the community says that that's the "dorfy" thing to do
what are you, an elf?

>>181868698

Check the wiki, it has a number of methods.

>>181869272
Please just go back to bay12. No one ever responds to your posts, why do you persist?

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>>181869457
>not liking a bay12 meme means that you have to go back to bay12

>>181869457
>No one ever responds to your posts
>responds to his post

>>181867281
Terrifying glacier w/aquifer no point embark is DF's equivalent.

>>181870431
Not nearly as difficult.

>be in dark fortress
>fps is trash
>companions all try and walk through me and knock me over
>fps tanks further


REEEEEEEE

>>181870567
Depends on the embark. The wrong weather or wildlife spawns means instaloss. Persisting in reclaiming such an embark just gets harder as reanimated/husked/thralled dwarves and pack animals build up. But they can be a lot easier, yeah. RNG is the decider for both games.

/dfg/ is the best general

>>181872925
your mother is the best general

>>181873146
/dfg/ is for NICE only, no RUDE

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>>181873146

>>181873401
>>181873425
I'd like to think that as a compliment

>human caravan arrives
>they see dead gobbos and trolls all around my monastery
>human merchants just walk by
it's not like they have anything ncie anyways

>>181862375
bles confirm

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>>181874271
You can seal exit tunnels or construct a ramp with a floor hanging over it, let them exit, use burrows to keep them out, then drop the floor on the ramp and it'll go away.

>>181871007
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE] fixes that, the require shit is just annoying lagfuckery.

>>181873681
I only intended it as an expression of my admiration for your mother's military leading prowess.

>>181876654
exactly
I got you bruh

How do I disarm?
I grabbed this little goblins spear with my right upper arm, but I can't find the option to rip it away from him, just throwing him to the ground by it.

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>>181877687
Interact with it, or better yet, next time try this:
>run up at full speed
>aim a grab at the weapon but don't do anything else
>aim a jump THROUGH the target
>aim another grab at them
>laugh at your first Mamgozumid, a.k.a. Dragonfall

>>181878843
Can you run in adventure mode?

>>181879472
shift-S for speed and movement modifiers

Difference between the "raw fish" in Refuse and "unprepared raw fish" in Food? Wanting to make a stockpile for the fishery.

>>181880691
One is rotten.

>>181879628
Fuck. How many wasted hours walking everywhere.

>Mine up z levels to make a bigger stake to dump into the aquifier
>Get to the aquifier + 1 floor
>Channel but no water
>Thanks to gabbro walls it is a partial aquifier

>>181879628
Does sprinting make you actually move quicker? Both sprinting and walking make your character move only one tile, right? Even when people are running from me and I try to sprint to catch up, they are way ahead of me.