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CRAB BATTLE

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Predictions?

FIRST FOR STABO

>It has been ten years since the last update

It's a shame Toady have been automa

post fortresses and entrances so I have inspiration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHKHKR8x6A

UGH CRAB BATTLE

>>181569287
jackson

dag

heman

mr

gorilla

herne

dorf

steve

>>181568995
Nah, at that point I just leave them to go work on another fort.

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how tight is that? The Age of the Dragon. Fun!

>>181569061
what's the habbening, OP?

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>>181569542
Just started the fort today, still new to the game.

>>181569814

Ids a snibbity snabbening.

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>>181569890
Are those small rooms supposed to be jail cells or bedrooms?

>>181570275
The lines? Yeah, bedrooms, not done with them yet. Unless you mean the 5x5 rooms, they're for workshops and other stuff.

>>181569287
jackson
urist
jugger
lava lad
gorilla
stabo
dorf
steve

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are there any tools/mods that make digging/planning out circles fast?

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>>181570423
>Dwarf has to climb over furniture to get out of his/her room

>>181570637
dfhack has one, if you just want to plan it out, http://jvanegmond.github.io/dfplanner/

>>181570649
I used to make giant rooms for dwarves, but I seen some people used lines and wanted to try it out. Easier to make. They might be terrible though. What's your room design?

Dorfanon here, where do I send Dorf's updated profile for the tourney?

>>181570929
Last fort was 3x3 because I love my Dwarves.

>>181571145
Eh, I can give them better rooms later on if they all don't die.

>>181570275
Both, I would guess. Good to have multi-purpose spaces.

>>181570637
dfhack digcircle: included with dfhack
>181571228
But that is pretty much impossible in the dorf world.
>>181571113
In this thread, or to (I think) [email protected]

>>181569483
kek underrated

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Tourneyanon, are you still lurking about?

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>thinking meme-rilla isn't gonna get a hammer to the brain

Dorf's updated stuff:
3 points remaining

Iron Short Sword
Iron Mail Shirt
Iron Greaves
Iron Helm
Unicorn Leather High Boots
Unicorn Leather Gloves
Olm Man Leather Shield

Proficient Dodger
Proficient Armour User
Proficient Swordsdwarf
Skilled Fighter
Skilled Shield User

>>181574276
Even if Annie Mayhammer gets past Gorilla she has absolutely zero chance against either Crabo or Herme.

How do points work in the tournament?
How it the points won after each round calculated?

>>181574584
Your starting points + double any points you have left over

How do you feel about adventure mode?

>>181570929
I always make 3x3 bedrooms. It's easier when you use macros.

>>181574795
Incredible potential but underdeveloped compared to fortress mode. It'll be the best roguelike ever when it's finished.

>>181574795

>I can target every single eye of a hydra, but I can't cook this meat.
>Nobody on earth sells a fucking waterskin
>Nobody sells armor in my size, either

>>181575309

>when it's finished

>implying ever

>>181571145
You're a good man.

>>181575484
just put water in your backpack m8

how bad are werethings once they infiltrate your base?

>>181578519
Depending on how many dwarves they bite, they range from a minor annoyance to your-strenght-has-crumbled bad.

>>181578519
Isolate in your dump pit and feed prisoners

>>181578519
>once they infiltrate your base
You've got to sacrifice every dorf that was bitten. If you lost the combat logs you're fucked man, game over, game over.

>>181578924
Ive got to pray I got the last one then. Didn't even have a militia when it came

how come all the blocks are rectangles instead of perfect squares?

>>181578519
not bad at all if you handle it right away

>>181579056
They're an abstract representation of a bunch of bricks.
I've never seen a perfectly cubical brick IRL

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>>181579056
here we go again

>>181579176
>>181578816
>>181578924
Well, I lost

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>>181579183
muh circles are all elongated though

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>>181578519
It's like the part in the movie "The Thing' where they strap everyone the suspect of being infected down so they can test them. Except even more people die.

Begone, page 10

>>181580526
that's a very strange-looking penus

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>first strange mood is a glass maker on a map with no sand and the last caravan just left.
I'm gonna dump his body into the volcano and put a slab behind a locked door, fuck this guy

I started playing with dfhack, and I doubt it's to blame, but my guys aren't moving shit to the very first stockpile I make from the wagon that's open to all general goods
wtf

>>181586189
be more specific
what are you trying to move and what is the stockpile set to?
is this outside or inside?

>>181586342
moving items from starting wagon from +1 to a stockpile on -2 with everything but (corpses, refuse, stone, gems, wood) enabled
duders are just hanging up there at the wagon with no jobs, and they all have hauling enabled
there is a path that the miners have been going up and down along

>>181586567
try a bunch of different stockpiles, like cloth/finished goods
screenshots also help

>>181575484
>Nobody on earth sells a fucking waterskin
Just grab one from the human keeps or dwarven fortresses
>Nobody sells armor in my size, either
Well that's realistic if you're from a race that doesn't make armor like animal people

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>Myne square ASCII
>Text Will Be Text with upscaled vanilla font
>Multilevel view
I think I've done it.
My game finally looks literally perfect.
I just need to make a fort that doesn't look like shit now

A massive brawl just killed 8 of my men. what the flip

>>181588941
this looks good ima use it

>>181590343
Screenshots of aftermath?

>>181588941
wtf i want it

>>181590678
I think it was a weregecko. Im not sure where it came from because I didn't get an alert. They already cleaned up the bodies.

>>181591027
How's come there was no alert? I thought that it always told you when dwarves were being attacked.

>>181591232
I don't know. I think it was an immigrant that came from a neighboring town that was taken by weregeckos. maybe I missed the message or something

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>>181590660
>>181590961
Literally download lazy newb pack
Already comes with Myne pre-installed, save this image in data/art
In "Graphics" change tileset to ASCII, set print mode to TWBT, then go to Customize, FONT curses_1600x1200.png, GRAPHICS_FONT Myne.png
Here's my colors.txt
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Color_scheme#Dark_Sand

>>181586806
>Just grab one from the human keeps or dwarven fortresses

Last game I went through like 5 of those damn keeps looking for a waterskin.
And the last fortress I went to was a confusing maze with no shops.
Shit's fucked, man. I know some folks are willing to put up with it, but no more of that bullshit for me, thanks. I've probably played five weeks worth of adventure mode and had all of five minutes worth of fun, the rest taken up by grinding and wandering and trying to work around all the broken and missing shit.

>>181591439
Alright, I get it now

>>181578519
Got a were-elephant just a few hours ago. Hadn't gotten a military up at that point. Killed 6 dwarves, maimed another 6. Been awhile since I last played so I thought that was the end of it. In ten minutes I had at least 3 more of them, and my fortress was covered in gore.

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>>181591471
>20x24 set
>rough and pixelated
>bleh

>>181591813
I enjoy the aliased vanilla text, but if I wanted something smoother that'd be my first choice. Great taste.

>>181591661
You know what you must do.

Were elephant fortress.

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>>181592180
Yeah the vectored sets are fucking fantastic.

Brewer skill only affects how fast the brewing process is done, right? There's no quality levels or anything.
I'm starting to think buying any brewer points at embark is a waste.

>>181591471
I don't want to start using lnp now when a new update is coming

>>181596830
Then use it until the update

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Giving my dwarves some living space this time around instead of a 1x3 shack for almost everyone.
But I'm still gonna divide by class/wealth!!

>>181595851
yeah
one plump helm becomes 5 wine

>>181596830
>playing an update on release state
>not waiting for the hotfixes
>not waiting for your QoL DFhack plugins to be updated
>literally suffering a worse experience and ruining your first impression because you're an impatient dumbo

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>>181597003
>making your dwarves live in the dirt

>>181597030
So what's good to bring on embarks? Can we start a tier list?
From what I gather:
Really Good
>max grower
>Mason
>your miners of course
>armorsmith, weaponsmith
>cook if you want to empty out caravans without trap components
>2 discipline, 2 teacher, some combat skills for best militia cap
>2 judge of intent, 2+ appraiser is nice to have
Meh
>carpenter (it's literally just beds)
>mechanic (depends on how much of a pussy you are)
>fisherdorf (decent if combined with cook, gives tons of bones, largely unnecessary though)
Bad
>stonecrafter (shitter bait)
>brewer
>woodcutter (not since nutrees)
>ambusher (not since bolt nerf, can hunt better via melee with o-r-o)

>>181598165
one with the farms n shiet

>>181598383
this was my last one

[SKILL:1:MINING:3]
[SKILL:1:JUDGING_INTENT:2]
[SKILL:1:APPRAISAL:3]
[SKILL:2:MINING:4]
[SKILL:2:MASONRY:4]
[SKILL:3:DRESS_WOUNDS:1]
[SKILL:3:DIAGNOSE:5]
[SKILL:3:SURGERY:1]
[SKILL:3:SET_BONE:1]
[SKILL:3:SUTURE:1]
[SKILL:3:RECORD_KEEPING:1]
[SKILL:4:PLANT:5]
[SKILL:4:ENCRUSTGEM:5]
[SKILL:5:CARPENTRY:5]
[SKILL:5:BREWING:5]
[SKILL:6:FORGE_WEAPON:4]
[SKILL:6:DESIGNBUILDING:3]
[SKILL:7:FORGE_ARMOR:4]
[SKILL:7:MECHANICS:4]

>>181598605
>DESIGNBUILDING:3
Literally why

>>181597171
Adventurer mode without dfhack is almost unchanged and a great way to experience crazy shit after an update hits, really all you're missing is being able to teleport around/hack your appearance/race/swap bodies/set shit on fire/launch yourself around/ghost yourself/advfort on top of your campstructions.

So I didn't really look to hard at my embark screen, is there a way to find out if I'm neighboring a goblin civ?
Also does having goblin neighbors guarantee sieges? Or are there alternative sieges if you don't have goblins? I have a fort worth of like 300,000 dwarfbucks and 100 population but no one has raided me

an invincible coati head is bringing my FPS down under 10. fuck everything

>>181599456
Atomsmash it

>>181599456
use DFhack's exterminate command

>>181599603
already deleted the world.

>>181599619
maybe next time.

>>181599691
>get ready to go out to eat with your kids
>forget your phone after locking the door
>"Welp, family suicide!"

>>181600926
thats kind of a false equivolence

>>181598968
buildings are a good source of fort value iirc

>>181598968
Not him but I like to start with a high-skill architect. You can muddle through with a lot of things but raising the architect skill takes effin ages.

>>181601102
>encounters annoyance which can be fixed with a little effort
>deletes world instead

Seems pretty apt to me.

>>181601479
deleting a game world is hardly the same as ending your existence

>>181601581
It's a silly overreaction though.

>exterminate undead
poof, done

>>181598605
anyone with expertise want to comment on this embark? I might use it myself, trading brewing for wood cutting

>A kea has stolen a (copper battle axe)!
So this is going to be this kind of embark.

>>181603761
pwnd

>>181569287
Stabo is vicious, but he will need to go all out with spending his points if he wants to stand a chance against Herne

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Is there a way to make dwarves write books in your library that are longer than a single page?

Also can dwarves write about historical events or is it just generic writings about their studies?

Whenever I keep an eye on a library I have new codex's are never impressive in any way.

>>181608039
>
As if anyone in the tournament stands a chance against the Elkman

>>181601102
>he doesn't kill his entire family and start over if something goes wrong
What are you, a degenerate?

>>181570929
I had a big room for the expedition leader, smaller rooms (3*5) for the other dwarves that embarked, manager and chief medical dwarf got a bigger room than the normal embark dwarf

>>181569287
what I want:

trihard
urist
he-man
lava lad
gorilla
stabo
hercules
steve

hows it gonna go:

jakson
dag
he-man
lad
gladiatrix
herne
dorf
steve

>>181610314
>not wanting herne
herne is one of our unlikely underdog champions, who went up against an exploit-tier overpowered enemy and won against all odds. I can't see why one wouldn't root for him.

>>181610420
>who went up against an exploit-tier overpowered enemy and won against all odds.
An unarmed piece of crystal?

I want Herne to win, because that fight was great, but I'm not sure Purple Fist is an exploit tier character.

>>181598605
Mining levels up quickly wouldn't bring

>>181610518
all other inorganic -men won with no competition, and even though it was entertaining to watch, it's clear that they are overpowered and need to be balanced in future tourneys.

>>181610664
The iron man is going to get killed next round most likely.
He was given a lucky draw in that his opponent had a wooden mace. Iron men are hollow, every hit that He-Man makes has a good chance of lopping off a limb.

Magma Man fought a cheetah with a copper xbow, I'll wait and see how he does in the next two rounds

>>181610664
the ironman went against a human with a wooden mace and lava lad was against a ranged opponent, which are seriously underpowered right now. not really hard wins for them

>>181610778
he-man must kill the iron man and avenge skeletor. it would be extrmely tragic if that soulless heap of junk managed to kill both of the rivals.

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>>181610420
To be fair, he is going up against the other crowd favorite.

Although It'll be fucking hysterical if he somehow manages to get shanked to death by the lightsaber crab.

>>181610902
>To be fair, he is going up against the other crowd favorite.
Whoever wins, we lose;
If Stabo wins we lose based Herne,
If Herne wins we lose meme magic

>>181610812
>a ranged opponent, which are seriously underpowered right now.
We either need a bigger arena or a change in points for ranged units really, they get to fire about 1 shot before getting pulped in most fights

>>181610902
I don't get the pic. is it some pop culture reference I'm missing out on?

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Hmmm. If theres a way to incite war between humans and the goblins let me know.

These population numbers should not be allowed.

>>181611417
>twice as many elves as dwarves
regen world

>>181611446
>not going on a genocide crusade
Aren't you even important?

>>181611446

I'm honestly kind of wondering. How do I make the world gen dwarf population be a little higher?

Spawn worlds with more mountain ranges?

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>adventurers don't become hist figs until they do something important

>>181612236
>hist figs don't become hist figs until they do something important

I want to share a large world (1.4 GB savefile) with the community.

Any ideas on how?

>>181613510
If you hadn't made any changes to it, just pastebin the generation parameters
Otherwise MEGA would be your best bet.

>>181613565
It's a 10k year world with lots of sites. Took 35 days to generate, consuming 14GB RAM.

>>181613605
Yeah, throw it to MEGA.
Can you time how long it takes to start a new fortress? Asking for a friend.

>>181613752
On that world?

>>181613605
>Took 35 days to generate
Holy molly.
How did your game not crash. Or your PC not die.

>>181613780
Yeah. I'm curious about it because even normal, medium worlds take like a minute to load on my shitbox.

>>181613941
It's a rather powerful workstation at uni. 32 GB RAM and a relatively new 16-core xeon.

It's also currently generating a 20k year small world. 37 days and counting.

>>181613979
I'll check when I'm done exporting the legends... Took a while last time and ended up with a 44 GB file. Apparently dfhacks exportlegends command does something fancy and allows me to use the Legends Browser.

Page 10 begone!

>Have a nice fort on LNP going
>Not quite a noob anymore lets retire from the starter pack
>Find tetrahedrite and rhodolite clusters in above mountains
>Look up rhodolite, semi precious gem, 20 value
*rub hands together*
Surely I can out jew the merchants without resorting to prepared meals now

>>181615395
>not just making wooden spikedballs

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>>181615970
>cheesing this hard

>>181615395
>selling prepared meals
what the fuck are you doing
just sell them stone crafts

>>181617419
A barrel of prepared meals can easily be worth over 10k so they're a good business too if you have surplus production

>>181618335
>he'd rather make the elf he's trading with happy than his dwarves have a good thought
check out this noble.cam

I think this game needs Giant Candy Crabs. They would be elephant-sized [TRAPAVOID] building destroyers, with pure candy body, wielding candy knifes and acting as a supplemental source of candy and fun.

>>181613123
I get it.

>>181618719
You'd have an argument if dwarves actually cared about meal quality.

>>181620036
>I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently. I had a good meal recently.

>>181620408
High quality cooked meals only produce happy thoughts if one of the ingredients is a preferred food.

fug, gray langurs keep interrupting my outside builders, they also really want a fix of my coke, should probably have the four migrants haul shit inside after they build those nest boxes, should probably make rock shanks and assign someone as a hunter, I heard gray langur intestines is a simply delightful meal

>>181618335
Sure, but making money isn't really ever an issue. Stone crafts are cheap, but unless you're doing a challenge fort you always have surplus stone. Gem-encrusted gem-encrusted gems are insanely valuable with a half-decent quality modifier. The metal industry takes a bit of work getting started, but once you do, you'll be rolling in dosh.

Selling prepared meals certainly works, but it always felt a bit too much like an exploit to me. Like gem-encrusted crossbow bolts and spiked wooden balls, I think they're too valuable for what they are. You wanna sell them, fine, but don't pretend they're a REAL business.

>>181622629
The location had few trees, but far better for short term metal smithing my embark had access to bituminous coal

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>>181622629
Excuse me, you dumb goy, there's an entire industry around selling you prepared foods.

>>181618335
>>181618719
>>181622629

I just sell my surplus meals, I buy usually unprepared stuff from the caravans and keep my cooks busy which is why I have too much food. Sometimes keeping mining out entire layers of stone only to keep on making stone crafts seems just pointless. Also I'm keeping a above ground fort now just like humans or elves :^)

>>181598383
>armorsmith, weaponsmith
Literally useless until you get metal, rather bring things more immediately useful

Carpenter is also not that bad, having good beds is nice and if you're doing an above ground fort and using tons of wood making wooden furniture isn't terrible

can dwarves use large sized armor that this human caravan is selling?

>>181622629
Well, if you think about it, masterwork and exceptional roasts are equivalent of irl finest meals for rich fucks and we are talking about entire barrels of those.
The real problem is that with a 3x5 farm and 20 animals you can swim in food even if you make only roasts.

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Whats it gonna be?!?!!?!

>>181624505
A masterwork thong

>>181624505
Silver figurine of dwarves.

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>>181624598
>>181624630

>>181624687
It's better than nothing, right?

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>>181622629
I'm not really sure how being a dwarven supermarket is a less legitimate business than a stone cup sweatshop.

You guys don't see it yet, do you?
Stabo is meant to be the antagonist of this tournament. The bad guy. The villain.
He was deliberately PICKED to be the one to kill the dog, for fuck's sake, and he's gonna keep taking out thread favorites (watch out G)
He's the only irredeemably evil participant.
His very existence in the tournament stands for the gaming of the points system.
And he's the closest thing to a tournament-wide threat to all.

You're supposed to be rooting for his death, not for memes. He's supposed to taunt and gloat until he dies in the finals.

>>181624687
It's good for bashing, due to its weight.

Also, don't quote me on this, but I think masterwork shields/bucklers are much easier to block with.

>>181625610
>masterwork
meant to say artifact

>>181624316
no

>>181625290
But who's the protagonist then? The elk-man?

>>181625290
*Until he destroys his opponent in the finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ49C8PUS34&ab_channel=FUSCAMAN%C3%8DACO

>>181626385
What's with fucking brazilians and crabs with knives?

>>181626530
They're the most hardcore crabs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyhzH1jPdr4&ab_channel=SailorPaladina

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>>181625290
>Stabo at the start of the tourney
https://youtu.be/FA69oJLOBsM

>Stabo at the end of the tourney
https://youtu.be/MSxaj3VGJ2A

Is there any parameter to make the caverns tall? I don't like how most of it is only one or two tiles from the roof.

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>>181623363
>>181624414
Real-world haute cuisine operates on a time limit. Being able to serve masterwork roasts in a tavern for profit would be pretty fun, but selling them to a caravan by the hundreds, to be hauled to a city on the far side of the goblin nation, just doesn't seem reasonable.

>>181628159
Not to mention neither your ingredients OR your cooks are anything... special?
It's literally some guy that clumsily made turkey egg into "biscuits".

>>181628159
Isn't there any way to mod the value of stuff?

>>181613123
>>181619674
I don't get it.

>>181628159
>eating cockatrice meat
Fucking dumbass made that meal I tell oyu what

>>181628835
As long as it's mixed with lizard meat and/or sauce it's fine.

>>181628673
The value comes from the quality modifiers and large stack sizes. As long as dog meat has nonzero value, cooking a hundred chunks of it to perfection is going to make money.
Also, there's no way to modify food rotting rate, or to make traders care about it.

>>181613123
if you count "being born by other hist figs" as doing something important. the thing in adventure mode is that the player seems to work just like the abstract pops. he starts out as a mook who isn't even mentioned in history, and if you kill someone, then the game starts keeping track of you in legends mode. kinda like with the animals who get names after mauling people.

>>181629295
you can modify food rotting with dfhack, and mods to raws can change the amount of food you get and/or the growth rate of plants from farming.

>>181625962
GOOD GUYS
Herne
Trihardin
He-Man
Gorilla
Hercules

Probably in that order

>>181618998

You're suggesting we strike the weak point for massive damage? Sounds too historically accurate for me.

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JACKSON, JACKSON JACKSON!

SMITE THE TROLLS, SLAY THE NONE HUMIES

HUMANITY GREATEST CHAMPION, YET SO MISUNDERSTOOD

>>181632565
Jackson is NOT a human and he is NOT one of the good guys.

If this was one of your chinese cartoons, jackson would be the villain in the fight against Trihardin

>>181632691

He is human at hearth

its all that counts

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Could anyone take a look at this creature file I made, specifically the Face caste, which I intended to have an ability based on the werewolf transformation where they transform into a cocoon of flesh for a few seconds before bursting out with their wounds healed. However, this ability doesn't work and I don't know why, so if someone could fix this for me, I would be very grateful. Also, I'd make a custom creature and civ for you if you desire, so long as the request is in the bounds of reason (AKA not something with like several dozen different castes or using stuff that can't actually be done with the current modding tools.) Also, there was another anon who helped me with another problem relating to this race and I still owe them a custom civ if they want one, so if you are lurking in this thread feel free to tell me what civ you want, if any.

Here's the raws: https://pastebin.com/cPjnBcqu

>>181632691
>Slays trolls
A traitor to the trolls is as good as any of us

Why the fuck are there half-eaten fish meals lying around everywhere?
How do I make littering punishable by hammering to death?

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>tfw using digvx on a high mineral world

>>181634835
I don't think the Justice system can establish such a law, have you tried making a prepared meal stockpile?

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>>181634835
>half eaten

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[nervous]

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>>181636098
oh my god they just keep coming
my tavern is literally 4 tables and 4 chairs

>>181636328
I had to seal my tavern and gas them. Lower your visitor cap.

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>>181636691
WHY DO THEY EVEN LIKE IT HERE

>>181636328
>He doesn't have a massive Tavern with 42 tables and chairs.

>>181637380
>His fort isn't just one massive tavern

>train a bunch of speardwarfs until they're skilled/adept
>they oneshot everything with organs
>epic showdown with an invading giantess is whole ten lines of combat log
Pls nerf.

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>>181637380
My old fort was a little prettier but more of a dining hall than a tavern I guess

>>181633410
Sorry but I think what you're trying to do is impossible. Werewolf stuff only works as is, you can't just change it like the other raws. Its hardcoded or something.

>>181637927
How do you make impressive multilayer structures in this game? Do you plan them out, or do some people just have a good kinetical sense in dwarf fortress? Mine always end up being different shapes stacked on top of each other, without really fitting in together.

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>>181637927
That looks fucking sweet
How do you see the z-level below so clearly though?

>>181637051
The other taverns cost money to get drunk

>Louse Woman Spearman is visiting.
First goblin philosophers, now this.
Where does it end?
Will it trigger a loyalty cascade if I start impaling the undesirables?

>>181637770
giantesses are shiteasy and always has been

>>181636328
You don't let bards in, period, they will sing praises of your tavern for about a month, other people will actually believe their bullshit

>>181638243
you realize you can set dig orders that goes through the z-plane, right?

>>181638437
Just cavein.

>>181631158
Adventurers always show up in legends, so I'm not sure what you mean.

>>181638437
>Not recruiting all these people to be in your militia so dwarven blood isn't wasted in battle and foreigners are sent to die instead.

>>181638270
Doesn't seem that impressive, you can place the dig cursor anywhere on the lower z-level, and then just go up or down a z-level and count spaces to make rooms

>>181638974
this
dwarven armies needs to be marian reformed but without the promise of citizenship

>>181636328
>raining horrid slush
Your tavern is probably the only shelter in your hellhole of a region. Doesn't matter if there's no furniture, as long as there's a roof.

>>181639121
not what he's asking
>>181638270
it's TWBT

>>181638974
Spilling ones blood in defense of the fortress is the highest honour a dwarf can hope for, you would deny them this?

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>>181638193
Is that true? That's incredibly disappointing.

Just had a dirty immigrant take over the forge and make an artifact copper mail shirt, really regretting not having a store of valuable and non valuable metals, could have been worth 36000, I should have the legendary armorer start making silver equipment now right?

>>181578924
>If you lost the combat logs
Why does this even happen
I mean, it's just some fucking text lines, it's not like it would eat up your RAM. Same thing with announcements. Is there a way to make the log longer?

>>181586567
Did you perhaps disable Animal/Non-animal?

>>181638914
not until they do something important.

if you start up a new adventurer and then use open-legends, you'll see that you don't show up among the hist figs.

Are adventurers generating a random last name when they kill someone a normal thing if you start without one?

>not making your fort a citizen repiblic and liberating the fuck out of backwards, oppressive monarchies with superior firepower and material

>>181640131
You already have a last name. That is a title. Like,
"Joe Smith the Slayer of Dragons"

>>181640059
Ah, I haven't done that. If you end the game and open legends normally, adventurers show up.
Presumably, ending the game (either by retiring, starving or just quitting after death) counts as historically significant.

>>181640423
Except every word in there is chosen randomly, so it's more like "Dagger Choicewagon the Trees of Joining".

>>181627009
>SMT
noice

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>The Ettin Rayo Rayocerethe Nèmile Vafe has come! A giant humanoid monster with two heads.
>runs up to the giant that's been hanging outside my sealed entrance for half a year
>starts fighting it
Nice to see problems solve themselves.

>>181598165
Hillock dwarves rule

>>181639454
Nah I'm pretty sure its possible to do

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>have to wait a full week for the next tourney posts
time to kill myself

is it possible for a tower to not have the tablet that makes you a necromancer?

The dwarven caravan brought a breeding pair of horses, as well as a bull that could breed with the cow a migrant brought. However, I already have a somewhat sizeable herd of reindeer as livestock. Is it worth breeding a whole variety of livestock, or should I just stick with the one (technically two, now that I've also got some llamas for wool) variety?

>>181644582
Honestly grazing livestock is generally not worth it unless you like doing that kinda thing.
If you want meat and bones, poultry gives you much better returns with less hassle.
Wool and milk are generally useless.

>>181644582
do what you want

different livestock have different breeding rates and meat returns tho, so it might be smart to switch from reindeer to something more beefy

dorf's might prefer one sort of meat or cheese as well, so keeping them all around could be smart too if you have the herdspace

>>181643356
>want to see fan art for tourney
>there is very little
>can't even draw myself
>no tourney updates
what am I supposed to do

>>181645518
kys yourself to speed up the time

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>>181625290
>Stabo is the heel

>>181645774

No ta

>>181645101
You'd be very surprised at the beefiness of reindeer. They provide as much meat as a horse while needing about half as much space, AND they provide antlers for decorating. Plus, considering I'm in a frozen taiga, I can pretend I'm santa claus. Except, y'know, on the south side of the world.

>>181645072
I like milking, and having cheese around is nice. I've never raised shearable animals before, but considering I can't farm for cloth, it'll be nice to supplement whatever I can grab from caravans until I can safely handle the caverns.

>>181645952
>I can't farm for cloth
Pig tails grow literally anywhere though
Even in glacier biomes, you can get muddy floor via caving in ice

>>181625290
it's a
>herne tries to peddle his fanfic off as canon
episode

How come some of my crafts bins aren't showing up for trade? I gotta trade all this worthless golden crap.

>>181646147
Okay, correction. I'm running an ABOVEGROUND fort in a frozen taiga, and there's no rope reed to gather anywhere around (plus no contact with humans). I'm barring myself from underground farming, and planning on relying on trade for cloth (and once my fort gets bigger, for a good portion of my food, since I have a mod that slows crop growth on).

I made an underground farm beneath a farm plot for around 20 above ground crops, my food industry formed around the farms, meanwhile glass (Got a great glassworker from migrants) and stone and metal in the high part of the mountain, is there a way to share the contents of two separate stockpiles so that only lazy ass haulers are going all over the map to deliver food

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Is this normal in .43?

>>181646816
yes, but it varies between games.

>>181646354
I buy it.
I prefer based Herne to meme crab magic.

>>181646816
Can't you change that in the d-init text file, I saw an invader soldier and monster cap and those numbers don't exceed the combined cap

>>181646354

Just because you learned to type doesn't mean you can trick us into thinking you're not evil so we'll let our guard down, Stabbo.
We all saw you murderize that cute dog. He was a good boy, dammit!

>>181646584
If you request the maximum of every kind of cloth from the liaison you'll get a ton of it. Each pip requests a bin of it, not a single piece. Request thread too for a few extra. Also consider requesting all the shearable livestock, shear and milk once then slaughter.
If you want to never worry about clothing again request the maximum of every kind of leather. You'll get 4 bins of every kind your civ can bring. You probably won't be able to afford it all unless you cheese the fuck out of trap components, though.

>>181646816
>>181647097
Yeah, there's an adjustable invader cap now. In my experience, a well positioned fort can reliably hit whatever cap you set. I've haven't tried more than 350, though, so maybe there's a sanity somewhere that prevents you from having like 2k invaders.

What are the most tragic deaths in the tourney so far?

Also what are your predictions for the winners of 2nd set of fights?

>>181648365
>What are the most tragic deaths in the tourney so far?
Skeletor

>>181647114
do not listen to this man crabbo, you have many many supporters among us here

>''NO CRABBO, MANY STABBOS''

>>181648360
*sanity check

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>>181648498
Dont worry, He-Man will avenge him

Is Stabbo a goodie or a baddie?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13356286

>>181648672
>killing poor pupper in cold blood
I think everyone here on this thread knows the answer.

>>181648530
Chief of medicines fails his block check against insanity ... at least you have an army of dwarves that he mutated with forbidden beasts, conquer while you can they have a short shelf life

>>181648047
I don't think I need to cheese trap components. I'm drowning in gold and galena, so I can just shove a metric fuckton of gold and electrum crafts their way.

>>181648672
Crabs are incapable of good.
>>181649537
Don't make crafts, dorfs love to steal them an put them on, then you end up with like 50% of your craft production gone because a hauler decided he liked that gold earring and put it on.
Make child toys, book binders, furniture etc

>>181648810
>6-2
crab fags btfo

>>181649630
>Crabs are incapable of good.
More like Crabs are ONLY capable of evil

How bad are obsidian short swords, anyway? I really want to justify using them in some kinda fort.

>>181650167
Bad enough that you have to "justify" using them.

>>181650167
good enough that they generate lots of Fun

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>>181648810
>killing poor pupper in cold blood
>people not understanding the deeper layers going on.

There was no way out but death. And instead of toying with his prey, the honorable crabbo quickly disabled him and finished him off with a quick decapitation, minimizing his suffering. Stabbo may be ruthless, but he is not cruel. He is a crustacean of HONOR!

>>181650167
They have been buffed a bit but are still pretty bad. About as sharp as glass.

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Well who is your favorite in the 2017 Tourney?

Lets find out and forgive me if there are some on the list who is already eliminated

http://www.strawpoll.me/13356438

>Poll Sponsored by Towertech Polling Department

>>181650612
is there a poll website where I can pick a top 3 or 4 rather than just 1 of 16

>>181650612
Tryhardin, but that ain't gonna happen.
I really don't want Jackson the Troll Slayer to win, and he's in a good position to.

Bronze is the shittiest metal.

I was playing Adventurer mode and I picked a fight with an axe-wielding Chieftan. He was incredibly skilled. I couldn't lay a finger on him, even when I took the easiest shots I could, but he landed a powerful blow nearly every turn. I should've died in a few turns.
However, for some reason, his -<Bronze Battle Axe>- simply could not manage to break my adventurer's skin. Oh, sure, it made a handful of light bruises, but for some reason it was totally incapable of doing any actual damage. Eventually, I got a lucky shot in and managed to beat the guy who way outskilled me.

Considering it was a masterwork battle axe wielded by a master warrior, you'd figure it'd work better, but no. I think Bronze is just a shitty metal.

>>181650840

its not a metal its an alloy

>>181650779
Is a big guy troll winning the tournament the worst outcome remaining?
We got rid of the knife ears at least

>>181649630
I mean, if I want theft-proof trade goods the optimal solution is goblets. Toys aren't produced 3 at a time like goblets are.

But I don't really have too much of a problem with my dwarves being fly as fuck, honestly. I'll just let them steal shit if they want.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xaf7ze5dgC1L4h7Y8flaG6meHZtqiuVj7dojwvQx1yc/edit#gid=1311675782

[email protected]

For anyone who needs it.

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having seeds means I can just keep planting shit, right? and more harvests bring in more seeds along with food?

is there any interface that tells me how much of what ore or metal bars i have?

>>181650949
In that case I think your best choice is flasks. I think you'd prefer your military being fly as fuck to your haulers.
They won't steal too many flasks, and they're a really damn good value at 3 for 1.

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>>181650779
>All this doubting.
Don't you see? He gains power from the doubters.
"Oh gee it's basically a free win for Oleme" they said. "An unarmed, unarmoured human has no chance against a well equipped and armoured elf" they said.
The great thing about gitting gud isn't defeating your foes with your bare hands, it's showing the audience that you did.

>>181650916
any outcome that is not stabo winning means we got the short straw and live in the bad timeline

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>>181651334
Haha no!

>>181651684
Since when can't people root for bad guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMp65SzyTU

>>181651334
>>181651684
The best timeline would be Stabo reaching the finals and then losing in a great battle.

You know this.

>>181651831
Idunno. I think in the best timeline, Crabo vs Herne wouldn't happen until the semifinals, and He-Man vs Skeletor would have actually happened.

>>181650912
Makes it even worse. Someone put extra time into deliberately building the shittiest metal, er, alloy.

>>181651980
+ JC would have survived

>>181651980
Well, the best timeline from now on, I mean.

>>181614078
>It's also currently generating a 20k year small world. 37 days and counting.
do want

>>181652225
You got it then. But who is worthy enough to defeat Crabo in the finals?
Lava lad?

>>181651007
use tab to switch tabs on the status screen, if you have a kitchen go to the kitchen tab and turn off cooking on some plants, cooked plants don't produce seeds and unless you have high stocks it is best to be careful, that said I think the best way to do that is to hire a book keeper and have them inspect your forts stock, then just use the stocks screen

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>get sieged by 60 goblins
>all ten of military die, despite having full plate iron
>clean up
>kea man siege follows up
Why

>>181652324
I'll post it here as well on /r/dwarffortress

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>>181652327
Maybe. I mean, motherfucker stopped a crossbow bolt with his bare hands.

>>181651815
The Undertaker is the good guy though.

>>181652508
>bare hands.
Steel Gauntlets are not bare hands, but I'll allow it.

>>181652372
so the primary way to get seeds for plant cooking is from gathering outside?

>>181652428
eta?

>>181650612

Remember the poll for the tourney favorite, if you have not tossed your vote yet

>>181652814
Well it was at 14.6k years yesterday morning so probably another week.

I'm in the process of analyzing the 10k worlds legends but having some problems. The raw xml file is 44 GB, which give problems in Legends Browser, probably RAM related. Also, trying to export using dfhack gives errors as well.

>>181653067
the 2 polls (is stabo bad, and tourney favourite) have 17 and 12 votes, I'd be surprised if there were many more "viewers" on in this time zone/care enough to vote.

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"I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. I will always be with you, plant your roots in me. I won't see you end as ashes. You're all diamonds...We are Diamond Dogs.
— Punished "Urist" Helmetsnake

>>181653430
...W-where's his prized sock?

>>181653534
crab took it

so do we have a concrete date for the next release or is it just SOON (TM)?

>>181653595
You see, this is why Stabo should be turned into crab sticks and fed to the other champions. Stealing the sock of an innocent doggo...what nerve.

>>181653716
THIS MONTH NIGGA

GET HYPE

>dwarf caravan arrives
>wagons immediately implode near the mapedge
>leave
>my own civ now hates me
GREAT

>>181652789
If you want a variety of above ground crop then gathering is useful, but the only way to get the seeds is either processing them at the farmers workshop (pig tail to thread for cloth, quarry bush to 5 quarry bush leaves in a bag, etc.) or have them eaten raw or brewed, I think it works the same way with dying clothing if you ever get into that industry

>>181653898
!!!FUN!!!

>>181653825
source from?

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>>181653534
>>181653746
Not even Stabo would desecrate the dead.

>>181654198
bay12 websites, the only source

>>181653983
gotcha, thanks!

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>elves ask me to stop chopping trees and I tell them to fuck off
>they declare war on me
>human law-giver arrives and she dies of alcohol poisoning
>humans declare war on me
>goblins are assholes
I guess it's me against the world.

>>181655205
Free iron dude, also some wooden shit that you don't need

>>181654546
Somebody should make a mod in memory of Wilbo Waggins. Only crabs, dogs, and a few other things. Add the ability of dog adventurers. Dog civs, with legendary misc object users as their warriors, using combat socks. Crabs are basicially the goblins: Evil, not that well-equipped, and everywhere. Only weapons that can be forged are combat socks and large daggers, between both civs. Make it so that legendary doggie adventurers can decimate the crab hordes.

>>181655803
Also try and implement the Good Boy skill in some way.

>>181655205
Magma is the solution.

>>181655803
alright you do it

>>181655205
>elves ask me to stop chopping trees and I tell them to fuck off
I'm jealous, how'd you get that to happen? I haven't had that in literally years

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>>181654546
>>181653430

>elves are trying to sell me fucking acorns
Are they dumb, or is this passive aggression for me building all my buildings out of wood and cutting down dozens of trees in the process?

>>181656181
give them wooden bins
or just flash freeze their caravans

>>181656205
LIES AND SLANDER
THIS IS A SETUP

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>tfw cleaned the dust off my graphics card and the FPS is suddenly a lot better

>>181656205
Okay that settles it. I'm going to mod dogs to have a syndrome that instantly kills crabs, and for crabs to have the lowest attributes.

Can someone give me the quick rundown on the tournament? Where can I view the events?

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>>181646816
>they disperse after half a year
>come back three months later with half again their number in trolls and beak dogs
Send help.
Is there any point in not flooding the surface with magma at this point?

>>181656865
Go back about 3 or 4 threads ctrl+f tournamentanon2 read all his posts in that and every thread up to this point, read all the reactions and then decide who you want to win

>>181656865

Its broadcasted live on BBC every Sunday 9 in the evening

am I a pleb for playing with a tileset?

>>181657267
No.

>>181656964
Set up glass industry early, cut the raw glass, make green glass windows, make a surface green house with scenic view of goblins dying

>>181656865
you need to buy a ticket first freeloader

>>181657317
Gotchu covered sempai, already have two legendary glassmakers and even found some rock crystal down below.

How long do you dig in a sedimentary z-level until you think there's no coal and move onto the next?

>>181657607
until you find (((minerals))) that don't belong to that layer anymore

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>>181656964
Just train a couple dozen dorfs up to legendary or such, they will be able to take entire sieges on by themselves.

>>181656865
>Zach bows to Tourneyanon
>In contact with Toady
>Possesses google spreadsheet-editing abilities
>Controls /dfg/ with an iron but fair fist
>Owns thread posts across multiple /dfg/ threads
>Direct descendant of the ancient original tourneyanon
>Will bankroll the first tournaments in the myth arc (Tourneyanon-tournament will be be the first tourney)
>Owns 99% of raw editing research facilities on Earth
>First modded creatures will in all likelihood be Tourneyanon creatures
>said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient vault slabs tell of an angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>He owns dfhack research labs around the world
>You likely have Tourneyanon plugins inside your game right now
>Tourneyanon is in regular communication with the Toady and Zach, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
>he learned fluent Dwarven in under a week
>generals entrust their meme reserves with him. There are no memes in /dfg/, only /dfg-tourney/
>he is about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he's a benevolent being.

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>>181657860

>>181657860
"wot"

>>181657860
fuck this is pretty good

Someone redpill me on aquifers. Until now I've always just disabled them.

>>181655205
>elves ask me to limit tree chopping
>don't care about it so I agree, not planning to stop it
>can't reach limit anyway
>at least I have elf traders who have exotic animals for trade and are not spooked by seeing corpse on way

>>181657860
Who?

>>181657607
I modded anthracite into the game so I keep digging all the way down.
And if I'm all the way through the igneous layer and no coal it's generally easier to make a pump stack than to bother with restarting.

if crabs are bad how come they taste so good?
checkyatzee wilbofags