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>Server
https://www.felmyst.com/
https://www.smolderforge.com/site/ (instant 70 for testing)

Guilds:
<literal whos> (https://discord.gg/Tafuuhf) faction undecided

<BRRRAAAP> (https://discord.gg/PkPkZPr)
Alliance (I know it's not the official name but it's better than no name)

<*No name yet*> (https://discord.gg/e3jEKAC)
Horde
>WoW TBC database
https://www.felmyst.com/database/

>Addons
https://legacy-wow.com/tbc-addons/
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first for cummy in my tummy
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How good are fire mages in pvp?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13363380

LAST CHANCE TO VOTE
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>tfw suddenly wanting to roll warrior even though I've never really played one before
>most played and least desired class

FUG
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>>181765591
pretty good. living bomb does shit ton of damage in tbc.
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>>181765675
>I'm the only vote for <clan gapes boipucci>
Well I thought it was the perfect mix of cute and funny but w/e
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>>181765882
Most people here aren't trannies like you.
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>>181765954
judging by your tranny discord this is false. there's not a single self-respecting man here who will take part in your underage redditware circlejerk
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>>181766123
Mocky at some point you're going to have to do something productive with your life.
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What's the most desired class/spec for dungeons? Last time on Elysium I fell for the healer meme and it was impossible to get a group for 5mans.
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>le mocky boogeyman
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>>181766240
For 5 mans everything is desired, but that depends on whos making the group.

A warrior is not going to invite a rogue. A rogue is not going to invite a hunter. An elemental shaman is not going to invite a resto shaman. A warlock is not going to invite a shadow priest. etc

I don't know why you couldn't get into dungeons as a healer on elysium. That's not really very representative of what I've seen in vanilla or tbc.

There is literally no class that is wanted more than others for 5 mans though. Every player will invite based on whichever class won't take loot from them.
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>>181765591
absolute garbage. living bomb doesn't do shit in tbc.
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>You will never get to play tbc with /vg/ before all the newfags came for nostalrius
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>>181767168
But /wpsg/ played on lots of tbc servers.
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>>181767457
he's pretending that he wasn't a newfag that came with nostalrius

shhh
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>>181767592
>he
oh anon
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>>181767960
kill yourself
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>>181765826
>most played
that's because warrior is the default bank toon most of the time, and because they're the best real tank and one of the best overall dps
>least desired
a good warrior is always a solid 10/10 addition to any guild
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>>181768320
They're the most played at 70 too bud.
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>>181765675
<BRRRAAAAAP> in the lead with <Madti Fanclub> close 2nd

looking good
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>>181768320
can an arms or a fury 2h dps work?
i'm a pvp nerd but i don't plan on farming shit for those small hammers after the thunder chain
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>>181768471
any census screens? I really can't imagine warriors being the most played class 10+ years after the fact, especially when you realize most people won't have the balls to take a warrior all the way to 70 in the first place
>>181768589
arms brings a decent debuff to the raid and puts out good if not better numbers than fury at T4 and early to mid T5
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For enhancement, i've been reading that BS is really good especially early on for the hammers or axes.
As an orc would it be retarded to go hammersmith for the dragonmaw maces so that i could eventually fuck around with stunherald for fun later on? or would the axes with the orc racial be too much better and I'd look like a moron?
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>>181768320
Won't fury dps be somewhat undesirable though on gummy's, at least initial due to the nerfed gear? I know melee becomes good in t6, but what about t4 and t5
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>>181768809
I don't have elysium census numbers since I haven't played there since launch, but I'm fairly certain warrior is the most played at 60. It's the most played on gummy's beta right now but that doesn't really matter considering it's instant 70 and a test.
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>>181768889
I don't think expertise helps shamans very much at all IIRC.
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>>181768809
You know speaking of raids I always see how locks are the dps kings in TBC but whos second and third to them? Never really see that.
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>>181769279
hunters and warriors
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>>181769279
Hunters and locks are top dps in the early tiers.
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>>181768985
Don't expect to top meters as arms or fury in T4 or T5. Melee on the whole is less desirable than ranged dps outside of the utility brought by x melee spec. Just take comfort in knowing that if you manage to gear up a deeps warrior, you'll be slaying the meters while having one of the more interesting rotations + some utility and a tank spec to use as well

>>181769137
It'll be a popular class no doubt but I just can't see warriors being #1 simply due to the post TBC knowledge of how much of a pain in the dick it is to actually live the warrior life.

>>181769279
it depends on which patch you're looking at but by the end of sunwell it was legendary hunters in the #1 slot, warlocks in the #1&2 slot, and warriors/rogues pushing each other out of the #3 slot.
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>>181769369
>>181769385
>>181769410
Oh duh, how could I forget about hunters. So who the hell is saying that rogues are bad in TBC?
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>>181769781
Rogues are great dps in TBC, whoever said they suck is an idiot. They were the first class to break 4k dps.
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Do enhance shamans have an interesting rotation in raids or is it mostly just watching auto attacks and clicking stormstrike? Is there a lot of utility casting?

Also, is human still mandatory for dps warrior on Alliance? Or can I get away with a draenei?
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>>181770314
>interesting rotation in raids
you have to be joking
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>>181770449
what are you trying to imply, anon?
t.shadowpriest
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>>181770314
your rotation will be stormstrike and shocks + totems

totem twisting if you're in the melee group
>what's that
you place wf so melees get the buff for 9 seconds then immediately cast grace of air totem
repeat every 10 seconds
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>>181770449
I'm sorry, I'm new to shamans
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>>181771119
That doesn't sound too bad. I mainly just want to crush people in PvP through Windfury crits.
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>>181769781
Rogues do literally no damage in the first tiers.
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>tfw mained a hemo rouge for T4 back in 07
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>>181770314
Enh press storm strike and that's literally it. In raids you just macro your "totem twisting" into stormstrike with a cast sequence. And flameshock.
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How does feral powershifting dps compare to rogues + warriors?
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>>181771937
It is most viable in t4 because rogues/warriors are much worse in t4 compared to t6+
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Are humans still mandatory for warriors on Alliance side in TBC due to the weapon skill?
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Belf prot pala or orc warlock
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>>181773429
For dps yes.

>>181773545
Prot paladin
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>>181773429
>>181773696
Though there's a case to be made for draenei since most hunters are retards and roll nelf/dwarf.
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>>181773842
I see, I'm currently debating between dps warrior, holy paladin, or resto/enh shaman. All Draenei __males.
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GD
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>playing a race for its racials
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>>181774472
>being a casual
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>being a fag who cares about stupid gay shit in a fucking V I D E O G A M E
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>>181774793
TOP
K
E
K
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>>181774793
>playing WoW for fun

why?
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>>181773696
I'm hoping to find a spot as a belf pally, prot or ret. I like healing in pvp but pve is horribly boring.
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>>181774885
>fun
having ONE EXTRA EXPERTISE OVER LOOKING COOLER
DOING TWENTY DPS MORE AND PLAYING A SHIT LOOKING RACE
OVER LOOKING FUCKING DOPE
>FUN
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>>181775140
>20 extra dps

It's a lot more than that friend.
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>>181775208
>wew i'll be the top dps of my class so i can finally become a namefag
trannies are the worst
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>>181775536
Unfortunately that isn't an argument.
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>>181775595
unfortunately i'm not here to argue you i'm just telling you that doing a bit higher dps over playing something that is aesthetically more pleasing is absolutely retarded

twenty five man raids
you doing A THOUSAND DPS MORE does not matter
one bit
and you don't get a thousand dps boost
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>>181775874
If every single player in the raid min-maxes the difference is massive. This game has been out for 13 years and that is still a difficult concept for some people?
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>>181775874
lol shitter fuck off, did you even play real TBC. I'm not inviting trash like you to my groups if you don't even know how to minmax
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>>181775989
>min-maxing in a 13 year old game
see
>>181774472
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>>181776124
Also not an argument unfortunately.
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>>181776014
ahahaha no, i'm not playing with you baboons i'm just here for the drama
just read the fucking threads, noone sane wants to play with you people

here, take a look at this >>181776124
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>>181775874
It makes a significant difference when you're outperforming your other class members significantly and they feel compelled to raise their game and try to compete with you.
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>>181776158
implying there was ever an argument in the first place
implying this entire discussion hasn't simply been me stating an uncomfortable fact
implying your contrarian responses have been a form of argumentation and not simply a natural defense mechanism

just admit you're autism and i will be on my way
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So you guys want uhh.. take a tour of the Caverns of Time? heheh
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>>181776312
>me stating an uncomfortable fact

That you'll be doing lower dps so you can be a pretty elf ERPing faggot? lol
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>muh dps is all that matters
ok jew
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>>181776569
What tryhard races are we even talking about here? Humans only for warrs/rogues? Orcs only for fury warrs and rogues? Those and Tauren tanks are the only min max races I can think of, for raids of course.
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minmaxing is something you do if you're a world first competitive guild not a virgin playing in a social guild on 4chan.

but go ahead and roleplay that you're at a competitive level because you quit your job to play wow, maybe you'll finally be good at something for the first time in your life
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>>181777150
sounds like you're projecting there friendo
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>le projection may may
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>>181777071
Gnomes 5% int. Orc for hunters. Draenei for hunters.
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So I'm planning on playing a shadow priest for the few months that Blizzard will allow Gummy's server to be up. What am I in for?
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>>181778842
you're in for a server shutdown
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>>181779352
but what's important is you have fun
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>>181779456
and to have fun you have to minmax as much as you possibly can on a 13 year old game
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>>181779562
>he still mad

haha lmfao
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>>181779562
>not minmaxing
Why do you aspire to mediocrity anon?
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if i aspired to mediocrity, i'd be spending my adult days playing a 13 year old game on a private server that very likely will get shut down within a month
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>>181779756
Low testosterone will cause that.
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>>181779876
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>>181778758
Fuck playing a gnome, for real.
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>>181779876
and yet here you are on a forum in anticipation of that very thing. you should get back to curing cancer and not laughing at the groundlings
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>>181779876
>Implying I'm here because I'm playing on a private server
Nigga I'm here for the drama.
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>>181780030
You know what makes me sick
Seeing a gnome warrior
Like wow dude are you going after a gladiator title
On a private server
Arent you a bit late
Like thirteen years late
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>>181779756
you're a trash player and racials aren't going to give you an edge over people who actually started playing before WoD
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>>181780167
>forum
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honestly fuck off mocky
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>>181780030
gnomes cause such intense rage its hard to come up with a reason not to play one. good racials to boot, wonderful hatred inspiring laugh
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>>181780389
>lol i trol u
People actually got mad back in retail yes, nows different. Not only are gnomes ugly midgets but they're played by ironic memelords like you, further perpetuating gnome hatred.
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>>181780570
someone on ally needs to keep up the reputation with the edgy undead and faggot elf joneses. you seem pretty upset urself
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Is it just one guy talking to himself in here? Why are people so fucking hostile?
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>>181780925
I'M PENT UP FULL OF SEXUAL ENERGY AND NEED SWEET RELEASE. WHENS THE RELEASE GUMMY!? WHEN IS IT!?!?!
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>96 replies
>6 posters

mocky........
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>>181780925
Welcome to WoW generals. The most autistic threads you'll ever witness.
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>>181781512
eh, even /wowg/ is less obnoxious than private server generals. We have several memers that have dedicated over two years to continuous virtually 12+ hours a day shitposting or false flagging.
Even if that sounds unbelievable, you can ask them in one of the containment discords. They tend to be pretty proud of their meme-iavellian tangled webs.
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>>181782835
only children play retail wow. these threads are full of literal manchildren who can't let go of their childhood
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i don't really care if ill get flamed but now that you faggots have split generals between specific servers i have to ask here because elysium are cucks:

for WotLK private servers which are better, Warmane or Dalaran?
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>>181786052
that's pretty autistic desu
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>>181788716
>no i am not autistic
Can you not read, kiddo?
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>>181788983
>that's pretty autistic desu
can you?
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>>181788213
Northcraft, coming out in a month
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>>181788213
Gamer District, but just wait for Northcraft
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>>181790987
>instant 70

lol
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>>181791926
you don't have to boost to 70 tho
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>>181791991
The player base wont be big enough to justify not using the boost. Those leveling from 1 are gonna have a tough time finding groups for dungeons/elites and will be behind on content compared to those that only need to get 10 levels.
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>>181793435
K.
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>admins on gummy starting to make announcements about when arena seasons will start

Soon
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>>181793762
I feel like an additional week would be helpful since I kind of think the poopsockers will get to 70 really really fucking fast.
But still a neat update.
I'm trying hard to get a RL buddy to play just for 2s but no luck. Sucks bad.
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>>181794035
I would play with you anon, but I have never PvPed in arenas in WoW before since I usually quit before I get to 60. Let's hope gummy is the one.

Is holy paladin good in arenas/bgs?
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>he doesn't create his waifu on the character creation screen
>he min/maxes on a buggy pserver
>he cares that much about his epeen
>he doesn't enjoy the lore and take his time leveling
>he doesn't play wow for fun
>he falls for the no name meme
>he hasn't tried retail at least once since cata
>he has 30+ add-ons installed
>he shitposts as much as possible
>he has multiple max level chars on nearly every pserver

HE. Fuck you "she" trannies. This shit should've been dead after <wpsg> on GD died. If ToD never happened this wouldn't exist. Go back to /r/wowservers/ and end it already. Pservers haven't been good since original lolten came out.
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>>181794265
I'd play with you for sure, I'm very average but love to lose and improve a little bit each time. I'm probably not competitive enough anymore but it's still fun.
Not totally sure about holy paladin - I actually was holy pal in tbc but mostly went shockadin with friends for arena and i also mostly sucked. Really fun tho. Someone else probably knows way more about what pairs well with them.
I do remember resto druids being amazing and it made me really jealous.
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>>181794582
:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13356878
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>>181797729
surely no one is going to rig this

the result will be what most people joining the guild want to be the name

this is what will happen

surely
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>>181794265
>>181795093
Holy pally is a great main tank healer in pve but too susceptible to cc in arena since everything except shock is hard casted. Get good at juking silences and maybe you'll do alright.

You can also forget about using wings against mages and shamans.
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AMA
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>>181801705
gummy is finished
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>>181801909
I do believe so
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>>181802272
gamebreaking exploits, it's all ogre
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>>181802484
Indeed, also come to think of it i think i can get to QT and AM from here, since they're basically on the same map, desu idk if there's some place where you could actually exploit something, but it's still fun to play around with it
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>>181802650
if only they didn't fix the shattrath teleport spell and we could ride around underground teleporting people
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>>181801705
>>181802272
NOOOOOOOO
DELET ETHISSSS
GUMMYN IS SUSPPOSE TO BE PEEERFEECET
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>>181794582
>playing as a waifu because that's the closest shot you have at "getting" one
crikey
also
>trying retail
shiggydiggy
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>>181802950
that be pretty funny desu, but you can't rly target anything from underground, it is transparent but still technically a "barrier", although i'm sure there's places where you can
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>>181803096
you can /target anything in range even if you can't click it
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>>181803174
you're right about that, but what I meant is, that not only can you not target it it's also not in LoS so you can't for instance wand a world boss while "hiding" behind the ground, or sometimes above it, but still in places you're not supposed to be
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>>181766581
Classes that are wanted in 5 mans are warrior tank, paladin tank, druid tank and druid healer, priest healer, shaman healer, paladin healer.

Everything else falls under the category of "that one guy already in the group doesn't want you in cause you compete for the same item so you can't join".
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>>181806564
meant for >>181766240
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When the fuck is gummy
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How much does human weapon expertise matter for DPS warriors? I'm really wanting to possibly make a nelf warrior.
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What's up with people asking and using GearScore in TBC? Is this some kind of massively coordinated troll attempt or are they serious?
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>>181808587
Who is using gearscore?
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>>181808641
It's worryingly common on Warmane's Outland.
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>>181808740
>warmane

None of the warmane players will even make it to level 30 on Gummy's so I wouldn't be worried. 1x rates in vanilla content is a pretty big barrier to entry for shit players.
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>>181808740
Are you honestly surprised? Warmane's a shit server and old as fuck when it comes to wotlk, you simply have to use gearscore to do anything there, so it's not really a surprise that they're forcing the same on tbc.
Every single group will require a minimum gearscore value to join
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>>181808949
I just started with private servers a few days ago. Haven't played WoW since mid-WotLK so I don't know the private server culture.
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>There is literally not a single guild on the forums looking for my class/spec combination that is compatible with my raiding times
LORD DELIVER ME FROM THIS EVIL
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>>181809028
Just saying, this is normal for warmane and don't be surprised if it happens here as well
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Hello, my name is Merove and i have a wife...

Do you???
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>it's a "hey guys I don't actually even post in the vg threads they are so bad lol" vg guild

every time man
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>>181807474
>muh min/maxing

end you are self
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What do you guys think the race/class composition is going to be like?
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>>181809134
Is it true that the GearScore addon was backported to TBC by an anon from /tbcg/ to troll ledditors and people actually took it seriously? aka the troll worked beyond expectations?
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>>181810395
50% undead rogues, 50% belf paladins
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>>181810253
I have a boyfriend
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>>181810869
kys tranny subhuman
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>>181810678
god i hope not. I remember i play during wotlk and couldn't into raid because my trinket made my overall score has less than 75 points of the required score. It's the best trinket out there for a healer with +healing and high int(the only stats that matter on paly).
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>>181810938
But I'm a girl
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>>181810954
from your wording it sounds like you hope the GearScore addon isn't backported to TBC in that case I have bad news for you, it's been backported and people use it regularly on warmane
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>>181810954
That's why you just throw on random shit for GS then equip your real gear before the fight
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>>181811028
no ur not, degenerate
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>>181811148
I was assigned female at birth, you bigot.
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>>1818112258
Post feminine benis
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>>181810253
>having a wife triggers trannies this much
kek
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>>181811225
Prove it m8
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>>181813132
Merove's wife's son here, AMA
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>>181813756
How come that your mothers husband is so good?!
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>>181813857
it's trying to communicate
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r8 my noam
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>you must verify your identity by phone before you can send messages on this server

what the fuck gummy???
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which guild is going to ban trannies? thats the one ill join
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>>181814371
i want that giant orc to ravage my boipussy.
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>>181816537
alliance guild
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>>181816537
Welcome to Mandater of heaven. We hate tranny and we condone lgbt erp.
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DO NOT TRUST GUMMY!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPGwPWOKvI

DO NOT TRUST GUMMY!!
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>>181816537
<literal whos>
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>>181816963
Didn't tera rage quit because of the shitposting?
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>>181816896
someone repost this on reddit, I'm shadowbanned.
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>>181816896
now post these working on felmyst
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>>181817078
no?
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>>181817824
Where are you getting your information from?
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>>181817985
>burden of proof
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>>181818528
What if I'm him?
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>>181819104
I'm him too anon.
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>>181816537
<pupper pals>
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>>181819479
Kill yourself
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>>181816896
I don't trust anyone who unironically uses that music for their video.
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fuck everyone on discord
im serious, if you are on discord you should kill yourself
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>>181820129
Can you explain your reasoning behind saying that?
What's your problem with comms software? It's necessary for organized raiding or PvP.
Are you afraid people will hear your manly voice or call you out on not speaking because you're tranny?
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>>181820129
Agreed
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nice dead thread, expansion, and server, faggots
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>>181822387
nice post faggot
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>>181822649
thank you, homo
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>>181822748
no problem gayboy
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Estimated server release announcement in one week. Who /hype/ here.?
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>>181810678
People have been asking for gearscore on outland so it is backported for tbc
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>>181823430
literally noone, we're cozy here on warmane and we're not planning on joining in on this tranny fest
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>>181823894
>Warmeme
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>>181823894
Warmane is fun for pvp because the mechanics, pathing, and movement is really smooth there. It's definitely better than gummy in those regards last time I tested it.
But the pve is so shitty and nerfed there it makes it not worth the time.

Will probably pvp on warmane and casualy level and then raid on gumbo
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>>181823894
>playing on warmane
my condolences
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>>181823949
>>181824116
name literally one thing that is currently wrong with warmane
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>>181824165
terrible scripting, fake queues, p2w
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>>181824310
>terrible scripting
example?
>fake queues
proof? the one video is just a meme most people fell for
>p2w
how? where?

name one thing that is Currently wrong with warmane
i am waiting
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>>181824165
>fake queue to make people pay money
>fake population numbers
>cash shop
just fuck my server up
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>>181824165
>Nerfed pve
>Fake queue
>P2w
Really those are my only issues. The scripting is good overall but raids in 2.4.3 are just way too easy.
But people who say it has shit scripting are just butthurt
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>>181824530
It has terrible scripting, both endgame and 1-70. What are you talking about?
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ok lets say the queues are fake, that means you have to take half of what your carer gives you for one meal, which means half of the balkans are out of the question so the player quality is higher (sort of like retail)

where is this cash shop everyone keeps mentioning?
i want to skip all of the pve to pvp normally with my trink/weapons
but i can't seem to find the shop?

i'm still waiting for you guys to name _ONE_ thing that is _CURRENTLY_ wrong with warmane
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>>181824601
The questing wasn't bad at all 1-70, it's 5x though so obviously I skipped a lot but I never had issues with things not working.
What end game scripting are you talking about? I seriously doubt you have a level 70 there, or have even played.
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>>181824992
There will be a p2w shop relatively soon, the raids are all in their nerfed 2.4.3 states.
The queue is fake, those are good reasons to not want to play there.
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>>181824992
There is a cash shop on all of the realms except for Medivh. And terrible scripting is the biggest reason to avoid Warmane.
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>>181824601
>>181825438
>terrible scripting
>can't post any proof of this
>/elyg/ calling anything poorly scripted
Top laff
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>there are people who actually think warmane has 13000+ people on a single server at 8:35am
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>>181825547
This is not /elyg/, elysium is terrible too. But Gummy on the other hand...
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>>181825547
Go attempt the last boss of SHH
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gum cum in my bum
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>>181825560
noone thinks that, but there are way more people than every other decent server combined
noone would want to play on a 15k player populated server lmao but the numbers they have are bretty good
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>>181825560
This, I'd really like to know where they're all fucking hiding
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>>181825715
It was fine last time I did it, do you have a video or something?
There are plenty of good reasons not to want to play on warmane, but you don't need to make up your own because it's more popular than gummys will be even with the fake population.
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>>181825560
i dont know about their TBC realm, but their wotlk realm for sure has the 15k people cap, or at least 10k+

SW and Dalaran are fucking BURSTING with people, i have good pc and my frames still drop when i enter dalaran because they are like 50+ people on the same spot as me
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>>181825560
>8:35am
let me guess, the earth is flat and the moon landing was fake
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>>181820201
>discord
>comm software
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>>181825962
is 3pm primetime where you are?
I very much doubt that
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>>181826097
warmanes community was always the strongest during eastern europe game time
what the fuck are you on about
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>>181826248
you're pretty thick anon
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Can we get back to falseflagging people, please. It amuses me greatly.
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>>181826384
I want to fuck and fuck big asian men, all day

t. Merove
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>>181826369
you're pretty solid as well anon

it's the fucking summer vacation, primetime is from whenever the fuck children wake up to nighttime
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>>181826531
mocky...
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>>181826531
>big
>asian men

heh
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>>181826598
He's probably imagining Pouncy. He sounds like a big guy
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if you're a normie nigger that uses redditscord please kill yourself out of this thread thank you
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>>181826807
it's pretty solid t b h
no reason not to use it
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>>181826909
kill yourself______
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>>181826987
quality post
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>gummy shills on damage control because even molten has a decent tbc server
Tbqh if they weren't such money grubbing jews they could have easily made a better server than gummy with their resources.
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>>181827517
>gummy shills on damage control
idk who you're talking about
people are posting about asian men and discord
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>>181827517
the same could be said about activision and legacy servers and yet here we are
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>>181827517
>they could have easily made a better server than gummy
>could have

I thought Outland was better scripted than gummy??
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>molten such shitty scripts xd
>can you elaborate on this claim?
>
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>>181827895
It's post-nerfed content, that's really all you need to know
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>>181827895
no one wants to play lolten and post proof just to satisfy some dumb autist
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>>181827895
I've played on molten wotlk for 5 years and nothing you say will make me think that their scripts aren't shit. I've literally had wolves run inside the trees at the human starting zone, nice quality
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>>181827517
How much does mol10 pay you for this bullshit you post here, Oleg?
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Merove's wife here, did you know that my husband works in the IT sphere???
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>>181828017
>pre nerf tbc
>scripts
Those are values not scripting retard.

>>181828074
>n-nobody wants to play there
Except it's the most populated tbc server out, even with their obviously fake queue

>>181828175
>i haven't played the sever but when I played years ago it was shit!
Wow what a compelling post, nobody is talking about wotlk

>>181828519
Not sure who that is, would just love someone who had actually played there to comment on what scripts are bad but you all just repeat the same bullshit you read from people who never even hit 70 on 5x exp.
I want some discussion not reddit buzzwords from newfags who haven't played tbc before
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>>181828726
why do trannies get so upset at normies when all they do is hook up on discord and snapchat all day themselves
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>>181828726
Why is merove still a meme after that failed guild, are you people really that devoid of originality?
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>>181828896
>failed guild

you mean Mandate of Heaven?
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>>181828852
The wolves running into the trees was literally on Medivhy you fucking sperg, snap your own neck.
Also considering that they couldn't fix simple end-game pickup quests in 5 Y E A R S it's not outrageous of me to consider them incompetent
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LoL fags!

Literally LeL-ing [Loving Every Laugh] over here with my wife and my cozy IT sphere job.

Stay mad!

Lots of love, Merove
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>>181829320
>ad analytics
>cozy
No
Although it's a decent pay for serbs
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>>181828852
Mol10 is a great server, those 10$ were well spent fa m. don't listen to any of the gummy paid shills, that server is a honeypot and will get shut down in a month
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>>181828519
Fun but weird fact that I guess shouldn't be THAT weird when I think about it, but on several videogame blog/news-sites/whatever with comments sections that have mentioned private servers lately (either specifically gummy or just in general) there are other russian name brand new accounts using that same stupid avatar as "oleg".
I'm not saying anything about warmane vs whatever, I'm not smart enough about private server quality. But it's kind of funny once you notice how much fake shilling is out there.
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>>181829320
cringe
no one likes you
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>>181829086
Wow thanks for actually clarifying that you played the server. No need to act like a turbo sperg when you're so unclear in your own post.

>omg mob pathing bug shitserber xD
>not like my perfect gummy!!!

>>181829447
Thanks for the (you) madposter
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whats our guild called over at warmane
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>>181831418
Ten Dollar Whores
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>>181831418
/vg/ is too poor to enjoy a high quality server like Outland from Warmane.com
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>>181831418
<The Fake Qs
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>>181831418
<Merove's wife>
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>>181831418
<Quality Scripting>
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>>181831092
ironically gummy pathing actually is perfect, kek
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Who here /elemental shaman/?
Just not sure in faction
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>>181832542
>t. hasn't logged once on gummy ptr
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>>181831418
<cyka blyat>
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>>181832832
post proof
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>>181832912
you post warmanes shitty scripting first
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>>181833243
I don't play on warmane though, you do it
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>>181833315
well i'd do it but i can't find anything wrong with warmane :v)
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>abused bugs to make absurd amount of gold on Outland
>players on warmanes shop trade gold for coins
>sold so much golf that I have enough coins to buy anything I want in the shop when it openssnd probably anything until server dies
>gold worth significantly less now so people have to sell much more gold to get less coins
Feels great man
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>>181833996
I wonder how much glaives will cost
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>>181834253
It's really extra retarded that they are putting them in the shop, they're bis pvp weapons for rogues.
I think server will die hard around t6, pvp will be a joke with p2w and that's really the last thing they have over other servers.
Maybe they will do an arena-tournament style realm by then.
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>>181833996
What bugs did you abuse to make money?
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>>181834685
I already reported them on gummys since I won't be able to use them there.
One of them was legitimately the best farming spot I have ever seen and it wasn't really abuse on the players side just an oversight by devs.
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>>181834938
The spot I'm thinking of is in legion hold, quick respawning low(er) hp caster mobs. Great if you're aldor. Easily farmable on some classes, not so much on others.
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>>181835395
Nah not that one, although i did go there when I needed fel armaments but I couldn't farm it efficiently
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Merove's wife here, hows your day going boys
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>MoH clique already infiltrated discord

lel
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>>181835948
Did the dude really mention his wife often enough for it to warrant so much shitposting?
Not arguing, I'm out of the loop on drama stuff and didn't play with /vg/ on elysium.
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>>181836163
>discord
is anyone even remotely surprised that attention whoring faggots saturate an attention whoring platform?
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>>181836163
>not joining the inevitable /wpsg/ guild
???
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How do fury warriors do in t4? Will semi hardcore/hardcore guilds even bring them?
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>>181836163
>joining discord for a guild on a server that's not out yet
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Going alliance on gummy is a mistake.

There is not a faction queue, and gummy has stated he does not want to introduce one unless the faction balance gets extremely lopsided. Instead, he's implementing character creation restrictions bases on population.

What this means is anybody decent is going to roll horde immediately while casuals get forced to alliance. Leveling zones will be horde dominated. Every endgame farming spot will be horde dominated.

Unless BG queues alone are a bug enough reason for you, don't think it's different this time and make a mistake you won't realize for dozens of hours
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>>181837217
They're okay, like rogues they are shit compared to ranged dps until t6 but it's worth bringing a few.
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>>181837374
But pretty much all of the top guilds like grizzly are rolling alliance. Top kek.
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>>181836864
Why even join a /vg/ guild in the first place? Serious question.
At least in recent history, /vg/ guilds have been dominated by very obnoxious teenagers or attention whores, meme spouters, and dudes really into jacking off with other guys.
Not judging if people are into that, but it seems like a /vg/ guild wouldn't offer anything beneficial to counter balance all those negative aspects.
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>>181837374
I like alliance that's why I'm rolling alliance.
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>>181837651
Honestly most of the vg guilds aren't too different from most top guilds in terms of behaviour. They tend to attract the same sort of meme spouters and attention whores, albeit better players and less of them. The only way to escape autists is to roll with a normie guild that's casual (aka shit). This is coming from personal experience as well.
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>>181837926
I don't know about private server guilds but I've been in several top tier guilds back in the day and none had this amount of retards, actually most people were pretty chill.
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>>181837926
Yeah, that's what I was implying but I wasn't very clear.
Most guilds have the same amount of memes and bantz, but /vg/ guilds will have the added shitposting and false flagging, mainly using the /vg/ general as a dumping ground to shit on people.
I guess what I mean is that joining a different guild you get essentially the same fun parts but far less of the annoying parts.

I've been in both but I'm happy to be proven wrong as I like a lot of people from here, but the very very garbage people turn me off and it feels like too much hassle to be worth it.
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>>181836864
name?i might join you, the current /vg/ guilds seem like are going to be utter cancer
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>>181837374
Who cares about racials, it's a pve focused server anyway.
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>>181837374
killing faggot elves is just so satisfying though
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Hey guys, Merove here. Did I tell you about my wife!?
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>>181838414
<pupper pals>
we're rolling horde
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Terranaut
Hello literal whos,
I am not a fan nor very good at writing long walls of text so I will try to keep this short. I believe you know the intention I had when I suggested the creation of this guild; a drama-free environment in which to play videogames, at a higher level than a casual guild, while offering a vaguely 4chan-y environment. Memes, shitposting, calling each other faggots in good fun.
The first step in that was testing the waters and seeing the reactions. Most of you have seen the reactions, and they were full of actual faggotry and general obnoxiousness and the drama I specifically sought to avoid.
This has lead us to believe that this is not worth our respective times, aswell as the times of the decent people that have come here - I advise you not to play with /tbcg/ altogether except for a few select people, if you want to have any serious shot at clearing any of the interesting content.
Regardless I thank you all for the interest you expressed in the formation of this and I apologize to those that are disappointed. Best of luck to you once Gummy goes live.

what did he mean by that?
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>>181841409
eh, you lost me, ill play ally almost certainly, i play mainly pvp anyway

gl tho
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>>181841598
Are you too dumb to take a screenshot?
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>>181841598
hahaha, holy shit, what a beta bitch

told you this fucking mongoloid wont be able to run a guild, you retards thought i was memeing/trying to force guild drama
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>couldn't pass the test to join the /wpsg/ guild on gummy
What do we do now bros?
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>>181841750
im too lazy to spoonfeed fagots on a mongolian throat singing board
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>>181841598
cant make that shit up
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>>181841598
That's too bad but not shocking.
A lot of you are not only incredibly obnoxious, but you're obnoxious literally nonstop.
The dude should have just ignored it until guild launch and then at least tried it out. Right now none of it matters as it's impossible to police a discord unless you're at keys literally all day long.
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>>181841872
don't see you trying :1)
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>>181842331
>>181842331
>>181842331

only true /wpsg/ boys allowed. cancer is free to remain in this shit general.
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>>181841598
>It's real
What a fucking spineless faggot
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>>181841598
wow it fell apart weeks before release what a surprise
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>>181842809
I don't see what this has to do with my inability to sit or stand upright.
It's a simple issue of not being worth any energy because of obnoxious cunts like >>181842541 said.
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>>181841994
>nobody from /elyg/ is allowed in
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>>181843156
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>>181836217
Merove is a MoH boogeyman, they'll say whatever competing guild they have will be run by Merove under a different name.

jokes on them, a vg guild on prenerf BC content will be a nightmate for a social guild even if they can set up a crooked Loot Council guild with their inner-circle. they're all clueless Nost babies that never did anything but MC/BWL for 6 years in a row.
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>>181842965
It's not worth the hassle and I don't blame you.
I liked your ideas so if you felt like a non /vg/ exclusive guild I'd be down to try.
For what it's worth, in the recruitment forum there are an awful lot of ultra-tryhard guilds and a few very casual guilds with not a lot in-between. Something like what you suggested would potentially fit in well there.
But good luck either way.
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>>181837280
but how else am I going to get officer position? usually officers and GM is decided before the server is even out based on who's most popular on discord.
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>>181842541
yeah, he fucked up doing it so early and mainly with putting the guild in OP in these threads

the initial discord chat was pretty comfy and it seemed like the guild could work out, but then all the /vg/ autists poured in and the cancer, falseflagging and forced drama started
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>>181845104
>discord
this is the problem, right here. there is no reason whatsoever to have a discord. i understand the argument being that its necessary because the server isn't out yet but all its leads to is namefaggotry, shitposters shitting it up and drama. any successful guild coming out of this cesspool will not waste time with discord
>>
bro's let's stop with this threadwars shit and all join MoH lol. they have a lot of experience raid leading and have had the most successful private server guilds in vg history: Nihilum/MoH/DiF
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>>181845104
Yeah, I didn't talk very much in there but it seemed early so not a big deal if I didn't keep up with discord.
I still think it's a great idea and that a lot of people here would be into it, but I could be wrong too.
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>>181845104
I never put the link in the OP, that was someone else. I agree it was a bad call.

>>181845495
This, too. I should have decided against making one altogether. Oh, well.

>>181843935
Thanks. Maybe, I don't know. Right now I'm looking for a decent guild myself and save myself the trouble. We'll see but don't hold your breath.
>>
Even the most prolific and obnoxious shitposters in /wpsg/ aren't as cancerous as the average /elyg/ shitposter
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>>181845495
I think you're partially right - discord is a great tool after the server launches but isn't necessary before then. Even just a simple google doc or something would be better to tardwrangle everyone.
For afterwards it's a bit better as once you know who is in the guild and not cancer, you can police the discord effectively.
But yeah, either way discord isn't mandatory at any stage. I actually like the simple guild sites used for calendar/event invites and stuff but maybe that's partially nostalgia. Discord feels like a chore to keep up with feels more like yahoo chat than WoW.
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>>181845910
wpsg is just a reddit containment thread, people go there to find out about the latest fotm 15x rate donor warglaive servers. and play Heroes of the Storm on discord
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>>181846157
>mad that /elyg/ is worse than /wpsg/ in every way
Kind of sad to see posts like these when we're in /tbcg/ and /elyg/ is in the process of ruining a second general with their newfag form of cancer.
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looks like warmane isn't so good after all
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>>181846126
>can't afford a vent server
>discord is a useful tool
>spend all day trading dick pics with children on it
>discord is so convenient
>don't even use 4chan anymore just ban anyone that talks down to the discord admin
>we need discord for voice communication, it's the best tool out there

redditscord niggers get out
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>>181846336
>I'm cancer but they're worse

pot calling the kettle black
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>>181846405
>euro friendly
>9pm pst-1am pst

what the fuck
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>>181846983
You have no legitimate qualms with /wpsg/ you are just projecting because your first vg general is pure cancer.

Sorry you couldn't be here for the good times, can you believe there was a time where GMs didn't give gear to trannies and attention whores? Crazy how it all changed.
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>>181847267
that's the first guild i've seen that raids late night west coast. doubt i'm tryhard enough for them, i think they want to race to 70 even.
>>
reminder that if you see someone LFM and they refer to dps as "DD" they are slavs
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>>181847585
yeah I miss the times when GMs would bother to make excuses for their corrupt under the table deals. nowadays there's always someone to replace you if you decide to speak up about it, everyone is just kind of used to it
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>>181847713
I played on a German server long time ago and they also used "DD".
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>>181847585
you can't give out gear if you don't kill anything
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>>181847713
>damage dealer
>slav
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>>181848401
But /wpsg/ has cleared more raids and killed harder bosses than anything /elyg/ has done.
Actually anyone who cleared a single raid in TBC+ had already done harder content than what's available in all of vanilla
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>>181848726
MC is harder than any boss on a Polish funserver that doesn't have mechanics working.
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>>181848792
How sad, you're playing on elysium and accuse other people of playing unscripted servers?
Even the easiest bosses in WotLK like FL and Gunship have more demanding mechanics than Vanilla.
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>>181849190
too bad they don't work
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>>181849418
This is cute, /elyg/ really loves to shitpost for the sake of shitposting. No wonder this is such a mess, nostalrius ruined /vg/
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>>181849638
nice argument
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>>181849638
/nosg/ was the best WoW thread in years, until the clique shit started
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>>181849667
>argue with someone who hasn't made an argument
?
>>
Which guild is Mocky in? Hes pretty fun to shitpost with.
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>>181852401
horde tranny guild
>>
>all these people with qt at the end of their name
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>>181853207
I assume you're on horde. r-right?
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>>181852401
<pupper pals>
>>181853207
anyone with their name ending with either qt/god/x should hang themselves right now
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>>181853810
yeah, but I see alliance with it too
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>>181854446
surely you'll make an exception for my blood elf paladin named xSephirothx, he's got a really compelling rp backstory and everything
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>>181847901
If they are from east germany they are all slavs rape babies.
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redpill me on druids in tbc
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>>181854956
the half demon one or the son of arthas one? I get them confused
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>>181855102
the gods of PvP healing
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>>181855102
The Druid Crusade is the expansions real name
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>>181855102
fun class as long as you don't intend to be a chicken.
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>>181855125
Both, actually. Let me green text.
>be knight of the silver hand
>agree with Arthas that stratholme needs to be purged
>go to northrend and witness the fall of Arthas
>despair, so much despair
>CRAAAAAWLING IIIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIN
>wander the world for a bit and conveniently meet up with Illidan Stormrage
>witness the duel between Arthas and Illidan, try to help out but ultimately fail
>THEEEEESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEEEEEEAL
>go to outland in exile with Illidan
>become a demon hunter
>a paladin demon hunter
>dark portal opens and see the horde and alliance come through
>fight on behalf of Illidan, but get wounded in battle
>FEEEEAR IS HOOW EYE FAAAAAAALLLLL
>wake up in a tent under the tender ministrations of a futa fem tauren
>take the oath of allegiance and join the horde in the fight against Illidan
like I said, its really compelling stuff.
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>>181856358

>>181843256
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>>181856671
Lok'tar Ogar brother, I xSephirothx fight alongside you, FOR THE HORDE
>>
Meet me at the karazhan crypt and I will show you where the treasure is hidden
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>>181857308
i'll steal your name just to force you to take xsephirothgodx
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what should i name my tauren prot warrior?
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>>181858024
taunkaqt
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>>181858024
beefgodqt
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>>181858024
taurengodx
>>
>Terranaut - Today at 8:08 PM
Hello literal whos,
I am not a fan nor very good at writing long walls of text so I will try to keep this short. I believe you know the intention I had when I suggested the creation of this guild; a drama-free environment in which to play videogames, at a higher level than a casual guild, while offering a vaguely 4chan-y environment. Memes, shitposting, calling each other faggots in good fun.
The first step in that was testing the waters and seeing the reactions. Most of you have seen the reactions, and they were full of actual faggotry and general obnoxiousness and the drama I specifically sought to avoid.
This has lead us to believe that this is not worth our respective times, aswell as the times of the decent people that have come here - I advise you not to play with /tbcg/ altogether except for a few select people, if you want to have any serious shot at clearing any of the interesting content.
Regardless I thank you all for the interest you expressed in the formation of this and I apologize to those that are disappointed. Best of luck to you once Gummy goes live.
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
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>>181858024
xshinigamix
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>>181858816
good job retard. are you american?
>>181841598
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>>181858816
>MoH trannies join <literal whos> discord
>next day this happens

I wonder who could be behind these post?
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>>181858816
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>>181859002
>>181859067
just came home and saw the discord you autists, i dont stay home whole day stalking for guild drama
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>>181858024
Terranaut
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>>181858816
>you will never escape /vg/ guilds because you enjoy the autism too much
just end my life senpai
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DUDE
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>>181858024
kungenqt
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>>181860187
what fucking lowlife country are you from it's 10:20pm here where humans live
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>>181860326
>humans
you mean slavs
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>>181860495
in literally no slav country is 4am you filthy amerimongrel
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>>181860686
>slavs this fucking retarded
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>>181861480
nice argument
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REDPILL ME ON TERRANAUT NOW?! Was he the promised hero to save us from degeneracy?
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>>181862045
the hero we needed but not the one we deserved
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>>181862045
but anon, discord guilds are the degeneracy
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>>181862045
Some random guy who stepped forward to make an official /vg/ guild. Shitposters and falseflaggers proved too great and he gave up.
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>>181862045
no lmao
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when is /ourgirl/ madti going to save us from the trannies?
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>>181862045
he tested us and we failed
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>We have to rely on /wpsg/ saving us from redditcore
We're not gonna make it are we?
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>>181862196
he said redpill not bluepill you fucking newfag
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>>181862516
that is the redpill
t. mysteriously knowledgable poster
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>>181862176
>>181862178
>>181862196
>>181862231
>>181862448
he wanted to save us from our self and we failed him...
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>>181862493
there's enough lads from wpsg that there will be the core of a guild at least

Of course this thread is going to be butthurt that falseflagging whos won't get to pick them name and make 3 splinter guilds
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Mocky is now responsible for Killing 4 guilds, why is he still allowed to exist anywhere?
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I can't believe some idiot wanted to make a guild that didn't encourage shitposting trannies and he did all of this before he even knew the release date for the server.
And he made a fucking discord and posted it here if all places.
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>>181863368
he was too pure and innocent for this world
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rip in piss faggot lol
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>>181863362
i doubt it was just mocky t b h
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>/wpsg/ archived after 22 posts and 7 ips
Really fired my neurons
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>>181863368
we already have one of those but he decided to make one anyways because he wanted to be in control. ironically his discord was filled with trannies within hours of creation.

ours has been up for weeks and only mocky has infested it, as usual.
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is Mocky a MoH shill or will she save us from the tranny menace?
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>>181863639
janny doesn't want /wpsg/ to come back and neither do i to be honest my brother
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>>181863874
he is aligned with the forces of darkness (trannies)
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>>181862045
Honestly, he was Probabbly a tranny, he used to be a healslut, and tried to make his own guild so he could main tank it, the second he realized other guilds were around he got defensive, tried to appeal to everyone, refused to pick a faction and refused to merge his guild with the other /vg/ guild so he could secure his power in the future, an insecure faggot that thought he could pull it off, honestly his best call by far was shutting the discord down when there isn't even a release date for gummy, the only right thing he did was to quit.
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>>181864159
mocky...
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>>181863639
>look i made /wpsg/ and it died
Epic meme
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>>181863874
Mocky is 100% working for the trannies, the only guild he isn't actively sabotaging is Moh
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>>181864159
>Terra was a tranny too trying to throw trannies under the bus for power
Is there no escape from the tranny menace
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>>181863362
the guild never even formed. its not even an abortion its getting whiskey dick
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>>181864159
you can't just call anyone you dont like a tranny mocky
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>>181864961
but I just did, what are you going to do about it tranny
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Whats the preferred action bar addon in TBC? Is TBC when bartender becomes good?
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>>181865049
wtf I'm a trannymissile now
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>>181865109
all of them are garbage, the first good one comes in wotlk
just stick with the original if you don't want your shit getting fucked up every now and then
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>>181865109
blizzardefault_ui
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>>181865109
Yeah, bartender4 is when it gets good.
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>>181862378
mocky banned madti from gummy

mocky is the true clique leader even above Infamy
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>not going alliance on gummy
Enjoy the inevitable faction balancing queue, gummy isn't focusing on pvp fixea mostly pve so why tryhard here anyway?
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>>181865715
like 70% of the guilds are on ally
get ready for the first 60:40 ally favored bc server
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>>181865818
Doesn't matter how many guilds roll there are always more players who go in guildless.
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>>181865818
This, all major guilds are going ally. Polls on ribbit and the official forums favor alliance (600+ people voting in each).
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Where does Mocky live?
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>>181866087
mocky...
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>>181866087
at his arab sugardaddy's house in stockholme
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>>181866068
>>181865818
>reddit polls

reddit please stay on Elysium
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>>181866345
Redditors are server hoppers and they don't like Elysium.
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>>181866514
but I thought diversity was our strength bros... xiao ming wei lao
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Merove's wife here, just passing by to see how are you guys doing
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>>181865715
Alliance is better for PvE, though, which makes it strange that "tryhards" are rolling horde.

The most notable racials horde has going for it are orc racials for hunters and +stam for taurens. Alliance, however, has +hit, +int, +spirit, +rep and better melee weapon specializations.

Paladins and priests are debatable, but the +spirit makes human priests outright better and who cares about 10-20% dps difference on the one retri in the raid anyways.
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DON'T JOIN THE MOH TRANNY GUILD

let those faggots DIE quietly into the night where they belong
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>>181866779
isn't merove playing with MoH on Elysium
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>>181866618
>redditors hate chinks while 4chan's /elyg/ put up with their shit
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>>181866971
there's no gummy MoH guild

yet
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>>181866779
I think its time I got some milkies bitch.
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>>181866971
MoH isn't playing on the worst expansion, we're all excited for BWL and ZG
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>>181865818
>>181866068
>reddit poll
>"""official""" poll
Youre an idiot if you think there won't be more horde.
That's just how it is in tbc
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>>181866998
yes, hes rolling a horde and joining the trannies
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>>181867124
They will be making one, most likely Valky or Manlet.
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>>181867340
I wouldn't mind a guild led by manlet, he's a really nice guy and active on voice. he's always helping out guildies and has raid leading experience
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Which FOV fix do I use?
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>>181866940
>alliance is better for pve
Objectivly wrong, horde have better racials for ranged dps, melee dps and tanks benefit from expertise but caster dps is key for the early stages of the expansion and late game you can reach expertise cap
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>>181867541
redpill me on that autist that wears hes wife's stockings
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>>181867474
>I wouldn't mind a guild from the guy who brought us MoH

fuck off manlet
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>>181867768
Why would you expect anyone here to know anything? 90% of anything here is something someone read somewhere and misunderstood, then dumps it out of their fat ass for you fucking nerds to digest.
>>181866068
>>181865818
Gaylords posting in the forum doesn't mean shit and it never ever has.
Reddit polls mean even less than that.
You're fucking retarded even for here. The faction specific queue may mitigate the issue but more people will go horde, period. And two weeks after launch you'll bark about how you knew it all along and it was so obvious.
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what priest race for alliance, aside from human. I know the spirit buff is great but I don't want to be one.
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>>181868215
dorf if you're manly enough
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>>181867279
>>181868194
nah
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>>181867768
>horde have better racials for ranged dps
hunters sure. absolutely. but casters I'd figure 5% int and draenei groupwide hit is better than +pet damage for locks and berserking for mages
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>>181867883
didnt mean to quote
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>>181867883
why wouldn't you just buy your own
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>>181868334
that works. i was worried you'd say elf and i might have to choose a different class entirely
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fuck everyone on discord
im serious, if you are on discord you should kill yourself
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>>181868669
raiding your mom's laundry while she's working late to avoid you and your 22 years of failure isn't the same thing as "buying your own", Puddi.
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>>181868215
Goat
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>>181868546
Youre a retard, berserker and blood fury are both better.

alliance racials are worse than horde with very few exceptions. That's why most people will go horde and that's why LITERALLY EVERY tbc server without an incentive is heavily horde
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Merove's wife's son here
Did you know my stepdad works in IT?
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>>181870179
i feel like it's boring again already, my man.
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>>181870102
They are better but giving every single player in your raid 1% hit if all of your hunters are draenei makes alliance pretty fucking close to horde to the point where the difference is barely noticeable.

Every single hardcore guild is going alliance. Hordes racials give slightly more DPS, but just slightly. Being able to actually log into the game is a higher DPS increase in the long run.
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>>181870403
>private server
>hardcore guild

this is so fucking sad
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>>181870403
>Every single hardcore guild is going alliance
You are putting way way too much stock in what "top guilds" post on the forum, and even more faith that what they do ends up mattering even a little bit.
Either you're not old enough to know better or you're legitimately not a smart dude. Either is fine but I don't have enough data to make a conclusion.

Most people do not sign up for guilds before a server launch date is even announced. It's great that so many guilds are vocal about going alliance, but no it doesn't have any relevance as to what the actual faction balance will be.

TLDR: ur dumb
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>>181870403
Also 5% int for all of your locks is very powerful. Dodge for tanks is as well. The only thing horde actually come out on top of is their hunters and melee. And like I said, if you have your hunters go draenei it's an overall raid dps increase if you use the hit properly.

So the only thing horde has is blood fury for warriors and rogues.

>>181870540
Not an argument. The point being made is that even min-max players couldn't care less about hordes ""superior"" racials. The only point where I could actually see someone caring about horde racials is if they want to do serious PvP as a warlock.
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>>181870102
>blood fury, 2 min cooldown lasts 15 seconds
>look it up, increases spell power now
wow I didn't know that, I'll concede that is better than 5% int, especially with snapshotting

>berserker, 3 minute cooldown, 10 seconds
>oscillates from 10% to 30% based on how damaged you are

I don't see how this is better than 5% int. Though locks do more damage overall so I can see why you'd say horde is better if the locks are better even if the mages aren't
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>>181870313
hello, Merove
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>>181870403
Hit is good but most classes won't need the hit after pre raid gear. Rogues and mdps sure but it's really not that big.
Im going alliance too because I want to be able to play and not pvp much
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>>181870748
>5% int for all of your locks is very powerful
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>>181870746
I'm not arguing for faction balance. I'm just addressing your claims of the horde racials being incredibly powerful. They aren't. I agree that horde will still have more players, probably. Because people generally have no idea what they are doing and just heard that horde are broken in TBC. There's virtually no difference for PvE between the factions.

>>181870879
Hit is good because it allows people to swap out hit gear for gear that increases their DPS.

>>181870951
Is it not?
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>>181870403
>Every single hardcore guild is going alliance.

>grizzly
(You)
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>>181871021
so based on the reading you've done on re*dit you conclude that the balancing of the faction racials is pretty good. this is very interasting
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Remember gummy is still planning on just having character creation restrictions and not using a faction queue unless it gets super unbalanced.

realistically i think it ends up about 2:1 H:A, theres more alliance interest than normal but not enough for a really balanced server
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>horde cucks literally shaking that they are going to be out numbered in wpvp on gummy's

haha holy shit
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>>181871319
>character creation restrictions
>not using a faction queue

no?
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>>181871446
It's hilarious, isn't it
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>>181871283
>le leddit boogeyman
for pve, yeah
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>>181871021
>Is it not?

You retard you realize warlocks don't give a shit about int and it doesn't give spell damage?
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>>181871446
>wpvp
>TBC
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>>181870795
Actually berserking becomes better than blood fury in SWP. Haste is super valueable in tbc so it's definitely better than passive int because you can pop it with BL
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>>181871627
So warlocks don't need spell crit?
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>>181871470
https://www.felmyst.com/forums/index.php?/topic/354-faction-balance/

this is the most recent official word on the topic
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>>181871736
they don't. nobody will willingly play a shit nigger gnome either
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>>181871872
>warlocks don't need spell crit

ahahahaah

fucking hordefags are this retarded
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>>181871872
>they don't
wew lad

thats why there such a guild drama on /vg/

/vg/ shitters are too fucking trash for PvP and cling on their boring-ass PvE
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>>181871872
>they don't.
stop posting, baddie
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>>181871872
>they dont

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>181872380
>outted as absolute trash
>m-muh (you)'s :^)

never change, /vg/ shitters
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>>181872542
>he deleted it

hahhahhhahahahaah

the absolute state of beta pve shitters
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I'd understand if you said that the extra int and crit isn't worth it compared to playing a gnome, but saying that warlocks straight do need crit is just plain silly.
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>>181871872
>nobody will willingly play a shit nigger gnome either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks1uyR3Wp1o
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>alliance racials are as good as horde!
>1% hit!
God /elyg/ is fucking retarded, reminder that you will be stuck in a guild with 0 tbc experience and players that have been raiding MC for 3 years straight.
If there isn't a /wpsg/ guild there is 0 hope for /vg/ on gummy
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>>181873298
>wpsg

experience buying warglaives on atlantiss doesn't give you an edge over other players on gummies, sorry
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>i read a post on wowservers so i'm an expert on my class and tbc mechanics now, time to let /vg/ know and help them out
>guys everyone goes alliance in tbc it's just a fact guys listen top guilds
>we use loot council because top guilds use it and it's considered the top loot distribution method meet one of our loot officers babymetal he knows his shit
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>>181873485
>meet one of our loot officers babymetal he knows his shit

I was there, this actually happened
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Are there WoD models for TBC and will I get banned for using them on Gummy's?
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>>181873485
>gets btfoed out of the universe
>instead of formulating an argument he just screams reddit for 19 posts straight

man horde shitters actually have autism, I kind of feel bad now
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>>181873797
Kill yourself faggot.
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>>181873797
i used that warmane wotlk client with integrated wod models, it looked horrible, the clipping of skirts/cloaks while mounted was even worse than with normal models, dont bother
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>clipping of skirts/cloaks
>if you're not minmaxing you can only dream of joining my raids
heh
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>>181875479
how are those 2 connected

only, even /vg/ is not THAT autistic to go absolute min/maxing
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>>181875936
you did not read the previous thread or two i assume
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>>181875936
>he thinks hes going to play his "fun" spec like boomkin in my raid

lmao guess again buddy
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>>181765258
Whats a good Money Making alt? Warmane has some shit prices
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>>181876483
>warmane

lol
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>>181876194
>implying your raid is ever gonna get past the grouping up.

lmaoing at your life tranny
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>>181876194
>he think i plan to play with the autistic trannies or the /wpsg/ shitters

im sure that i can dps better with a fuckin boomking than half of you anyway, but i prefer to play with a normie guild when you baddies
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>>181876554
Whats wrong with Warmane? Its decently scripted and has a good playerbase, the only complaints I have would be the rather frequent crashes and that fucking queue
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>>181876483
>wamane

lmao
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>>181876736
why the fuck would you bother playing warmane when gummy is releasing soon?
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>>181876736
> Its decently scripted and has a good playerbase

you poor soul

im so sorry
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Warrior - best tanking race tauren, best dps race orc
Warlock - best dps race orc
Mage - best dps race troll by far, haste is extremely strong in all stages of TBC and especially lategame
Rogue - best dps race pre T6 (rogues are absolute shit pre t6 so it doesn't matter) toss up between human and orc, I would go human ONLY because you don't have many options for +expertise gear pre T6. best race T6+ troll
Paladin - Best PvE tanking race human, or draenei for hit. Best PvE holy race doesn't really matter, whoever has higher int maybe BE. lolret is BE
Druid - Tank Tauren HP increase is good because of bursty raid boss damage, but NE dodge is really good to so they even out. Dps doesn't matter because it's shit and they're basically the same
Hunter - Orc for sure up until SWP when you go Surv then troll, PvP BM is orc, PvP anything else is dwarf
Shaman - Orc for sure then troll
Priest - PvE/PvP shadow undead 100%, PvP disc undead/dwarf toss up again, it's up to your play style and preference. PvE disc doesn't matter as fear ward is not a racial ability

So the only class that actually has an advantage in PvE as alliance is prot paladin because there's really nothing else better than sword skill.
For PvP hunter dwarf is the best race overall but hunters are hilariously shit in most tbc PvP comps outside of cheese BM in S1.
It doesn't matter if you pick horde or alliance in this 10 year old server, but horde racials are objectively better and i'm too triggered by the /elyg/ newfags to not reply.
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>>181876929
>Gummy
eeeeeugh, Sorry If I cant get into the Hype, but I just dont trust Gummy, and people will go apeshit once they realize the server wont be anywhere near as hype as people have been pushing it.
#Wing Knights
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>>181877154
>trying to tell people the game won't be as good as they thought even though there was a beta
the beta was literally of a quality I've yet to see in any launched project
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>>181877154
hi Oleg
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>>181876964
Seriously though, whats wrong with Warmane
>>181877265
Ill wait until I see the results, though I am 100% certain it wont live up to this ridiculous hype
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>>181877154
they're newfags who didn't even know what SC1/2 was.

>>181877457
Warmane is good if you don't mind the bullshit that is
-fake queue
-p2w
-nerfed pve (2.4.3 values)
-5x (maybe a + for some)

other than that it is a solid server, their pvp mechanics are the best I have experienced and I have played on almost every major TBC server, they are for sure better than Gummy's
in that regard. You just have a lot of butt hurt gummy shills here, but I don't blame them, if you don't want to PvP there's not much of a reason to do warmane unless you're really casual and need it.
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>>181877457
>Ill wait until I see the results
>I am 100% certain it wont live up to
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>>181877154
i literally play on both waramne and the gummy taste, i dont give a fuck if you'd call me a shill or whatever, but im doing dungeons on both whole day and i can guarantee you that gummy's script is MILES better

Shadow Lab, Steamvault, Shattered Halls, Durnhold are 100% blizzlike
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>>181877457
>Seriously though, whats wrong with Warmane

Fake queue forcing players to spend $10 to play. All raids are nerfed and can be cleared by literally any retard who steps into them. T5 claimed to be open at launch, people got to 70 and it was locked lmfao. They claimed medivh was prefnerf, people got to 70 and it's literally just the same raids as outlands LOL. Pay to win. Funserver rates.

Warmane fags should unironically kill themselves.
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>>181877083
I would say that human is better for CoH priest due to +spirit and gnome is arguably the best for PvP warrior

even so horde clearly has the best racials. Its even worse in vanilla but it gets covered up by how good pallys are and shitters needing the fear ward crutch for ony
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>>181877457
>Ill wait until I see the results, though I am 100% certain it wont live up to this ridiculous hype

you can literally go and check it right now, the test server is full of people

what makes you think that the final release will be more broken than the fucking test for some reason?
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>>181877730
>Fun rates are objectively bad
Not really? Its a matter of personal taste, some people dont have all the time in the world to play WoW and some people play more than one game
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>>181877457

>>181828519
I don't think Gummy will beat warmane in quality, but we'll see
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>>181877740
Yeah i can see the +spirit for human being good for PvE since there really isn't much else.

Gnome is good for warrior in pvp but you run with a healer all the time in arenas, and you can get cleaned from at least 1 type of slow from each, sometimes more. Bloodfury is just too good, if you're getting hit by MS from other warriors and pop bloodfury your healer will know that in 15 seconds you won't have a MS effect on you and can top you off efficiently (bloodfury wipes all other MS effects for the duration, which is super fucking good).
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>>181877895
> Its a matter of personal taste

No it isn't. High rates servers are objectively terrible. If you want to play TBC and vanilla servers then play them how they were, 1x. If you want to hit max level in an afternoon then go play retail you fucking faggot.

Also I forgot about multiboxing being allowed, that shit's is fucking hilarious. There's a reason your economy is fucking destroyed retard.

Unironically fucking end your life if you're seriously defending warmane.
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is gummy planning on eventually progressin to wotlk?
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>>181877083
>when you go Surv
Surv hunter is completely separate from the BMbulls. BM still outscales any other Hunter spec in Sunwell.
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>>181878178
gummy is working on his WoD/MoP server right now
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>>181878094
it is personal taste, they're obviously not the same but at the end of the day it's personal taste.
>multiboxing is why the economy is destroyed
it's not, the economy is pretty good since it's a high population server. but you're just an ass hurt kid who has never even played there.
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>>181878094
dont forget that warmane admins literally allow honor farming
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>>181878276
I've played plenty of warmane servers before. I learned after lord to stop. Have fun with your fake queue nigger.
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>>181878276
except you're wrong.

not him but anything above the 1x rate is objectively going to impact the economy of the server and that in itself is good enough reason to not play on funservers.

I bet you'll try to tell me the economy is fine on servers where gold sellers mail everyone 200-500g.
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>>181878094
Clearly you are a sane individual if you dislike people for having different preferences and less time on their hands than you. But what do I know, this is obviously more than a game for you and any attempt to discuss topics of this game with you would be the equivalent of drinking tranquilizer fluid
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>>181878419
>I prefer fucking children only god can judge me
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>>181878391
>ad hom
you're mad kid, come back with a real argument

>>181878408
no, you're horribly misinformed because you only play 1x servers. and again it's personal preference not something you can objectively say just because you think so

>>181878338
they don't allow you to honor farm
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>>181878656
Thats a bit of a stretch, isnt it?
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can we fucking ban the warmane shilling spics from here?

seriously, this server is infested with spics and latinos, i play in the wotlk x7 server while waiting for gummy and literally eery dungeon i enter, theres at least 1 spic with <something latino> in his guild name that doesnt speak a single world in english and thinks that everyone understands his spicspeak
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>>181878691
>come back with a real argument

You didn't present one to respond to you fucking retard.

>>181878735
Hyperbole to expose your retarded "b-but i like eating shit it's my preference" non argument.
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>I have time to farm raids for 8 months but leveling to max level is too much, I actually have a life f a m
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>>181878735
eh, the pizza is still on the sheet, dont see the problem, id still eat it
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>>181878691
>no, you're horribly misinformed because you only play 1x servers
that's pretty presumptuous, m8

let me go login to my dalaran characters and collect anywhere from 200-500g just for having been online for 4 hours (which means I could type in global chat and get added to the gib gold list) and then buy some stacks of infinite dust for 1k a stack.

blizzlike!
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who /mage/ here? Being a wizard is comfy!
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>>181878758
The only way to ban people is if theyre off topic, and Im pretty sure Warmane isnt off topic


>>181878792
But anon, preferring one server over the other isnt pedophelia, the major difference being that one action is legal and one isnt.
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>>181878978
Yeah the bench can be pretty comfy.
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>>181879008
>bench
>not playing with friends who don't care about minmaxing
Feels good playing what you want!
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>warmane

I thought it was just brazilians and russians that played there lol? do people actually play that unscripted garbage?
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>>181878094
I wouldn't mind something like 1.25x. It would make some areas much more bearable.
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>>181878978
Come join the one button Club, senpai
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>>181879159
TBC literally makes 20-60 20% faster.
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>>181879118
having friends sounds really nice
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>>181879118
>one button
>warlock-affliction-wow.jpg
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>>181878792
what's your argument, the economy is fucked or high rates ruins everything?
Because all you've done is ad hom and act like the nigger you call me.

>>181878808
You really don't see how somebody who doesn't have time to level wouldn't want to spend their free time doing something they don't like just to get to a part they like in the end?

>>181878916
>let me just make up some scenario that fits my narrative, this is a valid argument

retard!


All 3 responses are logical facilities, this is absolutely pathetic, this is the state nu/vg/. have fun wiping on morose and gruul
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>>181879394
>being the affcuck past t4
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>>181878808
I actually do it for the PvP, which Is fun if not incredibly annoying
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>>181879316
It's all fun and games! until that one fucking guy gets salty about loot. You know the one. THAT guy. The one you are still friends with because you have a long history together in the game but can tell he wouldn't be accepted in any other group really.
>>181879232
Two buttons is basically the same!
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>>181878238
No BM gets outdone by SV in end game SWP gear, SV is literally the best dps spec in 2.4.3 but you need so much gear that you're literally BiS by that point.
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>>181879489
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>>181879869
No it doesn't. In BiS gear BM still comes on top. You can put it in RAWR and see for yourself.
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>>181879489
>spend their free time doing something they don't like just to get to a part they like

MMOs aren't for people that only have 2 hours to play at a time, just play League or something
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>>181879489
>>181879934
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>>181879934
>>181880261
You do realize that that is because of duping not the servers xp rate? You could have an infinite supply of gold on any server as long as basic duping tools worked it is completely independent of xp rate.

You are literally so fucking retarded it hurts, stop posting here pay attention in school.

>>181879953
>RAWR
okay that's when you need to stop fucking posting, idiot

>>181880004
if the entire server has different XP rates it's literally catered to people who do not have time for a traditional MMO.

I can't believe you people can fucking breath, please go back to vanilla where i'm sure you're just as pro as everybody else at not standing in fire.
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>>181880261
Those are the greediest Disenchanters Ive ever seen
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>>181879934
>>181880261
show him what for it mean to be super sand legend
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>>181880396
>this is the average wpsg poster that's never got past level 30 on a 1x rate server
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>>181880396
>the simulation tool created using EJ models is not good! my spreadsheets and BELIEF are what's true!
ok.
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>>181880396
you're sure it's not because people like me having 1k+ sitting in their mailbox when offline for more than a couple days?

surely it's the duping and not what I included in a screencap!

it has to be the dupers m8 because I surely haven't ever bought anything off the market @ such inflated prices when I get 1k every few days for free
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>>181880589
>wpsg defending warmane/molten
>ever

hello elyg
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Gummys server has a terrible Faction Balance System.

>Oh you want to play as an orc? Well too bad we dont have enough Alliance Members go play as a fucking gnome you Horde Scum
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>>181879489
>what's your argument, the economy is fucked or high rates ruins everything?

Funserver rates ruin the very essence of the game by diluting reward mechanisms. This is the very same problem that Legion is suffering right now.

When you eliminate a time sink like leveling, being max level is now a diluted reward. There's a slight domino effect that every single diluted reward mechanism has in WoW. It's easier to get to max level, so it's easier to get into dungeons and raids because there are more people at max level, so more people have cool gear, etc.

And that's just what high level rates does, when you throw in the fact people can just buy the same gear that you got through raiding it completely fucks the entire system and makes everything feel pointless. I get that you're a turbo normie trying to justify the fact that you're a casual shitter, but there's a reason why people despise all of these traits in retail and why the games sub numbers dropped.

You're actually arguing to implement the very features that destroyed the game into earlier expansions on the basis of "not everyone can play all day everyday!". This is literally the exact same thing that caused blizzard to implement dungeon finder, raid finder, increased xp rates, raid difficulties, and every other god awful feature they've introduced.

You lack the ability to understand delayed reward. You lack the ability to understand how easy it is to completely fuck the entire game up through reward dilution. You very likely have a 2 digit IQ. You should probably do the gene pool a favor and snuff yourself out of it.
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>>181882505
They will either implement that or the faction queue system.
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>>181882642
>muh Blizzlike

some people actually have a job and not all day to play children's video games lol
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>>181882903
I didn't use "blizzlike" as an argument once.
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>>181882903
good thing we're not talking about blizzlike in the context of casual vs hardcore

we're talking about whether or not funrates have any objective downsides, which they do
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>>181882903
then play DOTA, or CS:GO or literally anything else, why the fuck would you play an MMO and on top of that one of the more time-demanding expansion for it if you dont have time?

before i started making money from home and worked 9-5s i dropped WoW and played dota instead, now i have time and ill play WoW again, never fucking complained that i dont have time
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>>181883391
>mfw blizzdrones use this argument against veteran players who disagree with the last few incarnations of retail
the ironing of the people who originally couldn't L2stayintheirlane telling the original crowd to simply move on if the game doesn't suit their taste
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>>181882903

>le job argument

dude if you live in a civilized place you probably work 40 hours per week, assuming you sleep 8 hours per day that leaves 72 hours for other activities.
Of course if youre a wagecuck in america then youre shit out of luck cause you then get stuck for like 2 hours a day commuting
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>>181881083
Yeah gold sellers totally give away large sums of gold when they have a limited supply right? It can't be that they have an unlimited supply and don't lose out on giving away some for potential customers right?

You must be an ESL student with how poorly you comprehend English.
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>>181882642
No you're wrong, leveling is nothing but a time sink after you have experienced it one or two times, depending on how much you enjoyed it. Getting to end game faster doesn't change anything about the end game because you still have 1x reputation, gold, etc.
You think leveling on 1x means you can't be a casual shitter? then how were there casual shitters everywhere since the game came out?

It's not a delayed reward getting to cap when you've done it multiple times before. the reward is downing bosses and clearing content.
You're right a lot of those things apply to retail but not because of faster leveling, it all snowballs with catch up gear once you hit cap.

You've gone off on an entirely different tangent that doesn't apply to high exp rate servers. I guarantee you're one of the players who never played vanilla on retail but talks so much about muh community the journey xD
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>>181885990
It can be fun when you're doing it with friends still.
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>>181885990
I played during real Vanilla and reached 60 fuck leveling ALL OVER AGAIN it's so BORING, leveling is the worst part of wow. one of the good changes they've made on retail is make the leveling less grindy and more fun so you can get to the actual game faster
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>>181885608
>Yeah gold sellers totally give away large sums of gold when they have a limited supply right?
limited supply of gold on a private server?

found the retard who thinks there are actual chinks farming ingame to make mass gold

when people are willing to pay 1k for a stack of 20 infinite dust you'll face no such thing as a gold shortage so long as you can keep stealing accounts
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>>181877083
Shaman what?
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>>181886871
Orc for either dps, Troll for resto.
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>>181885990
I haven't gone off on any tangent. You focused on in experience rates, not me. I just mentioned them as one of the many things that dilute reward mechanisms.

Being able to level 48 shamans in a day with 5 times rates does in fact dilute the reward of reaching max level. You can make an argument for slightly higher rates in the context of private servers, sure. But in the context of warmane it's just abused to have a billion multiboxxing accounts.

>b-but muh most people don't multibox

Irrelevant. The fact that it can be done dilutes the system. This is the same line of thinking where people say "j-just join a guild that doesn't use p2w". This is a retarded thing to say. The fact that people can do these things and get the same things you got with less effort or in an exploitative way dilutes your sense of reward.

5x rates does fuck the economy up a lot. It becomes incredibly difficult to get 1-60 profession items to level up your professions. It's not the worst thing in the world though. But this is all you've actually addressed. Because you don't have any real argument. You will just continue to rant on about experience rates not being the anti-christ while ignoring the 500 other points that have been made against warmane being a god awful poorly scripted pay to win fake queue piece of shit server.
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>>181886939
Trolls are also real good as Enhancement.
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>>181886748
Stealing gold isn't as common as you think, most people spend their gold immediately. The ones with lots of gold don't get hacked. Most chinks exploit their way to gold, but a lot do farm instances or other safe time effective ways.
You're playing on a server without duping protection, that's why gold sellers are giving it away. You're a complete retard and it's embarrassing
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>>181886962
Okay but you could just have someone else level for you on retail vanilla, making it an instant cap server, what's your point?

>b-but muh most people don't buy characters

Irrelevant. The fact that it can be done dilutes the system. Exp rates doesn't stop people from leveling their professions while they level or sell/gather low level materials.

I will concede this though, high rates lets you get lets say 3 70's relatively quickly. You can make one enchanting/tailoring, one jewelcrafting/mining, and one alchemy/herb. With 70s it's much easier to go back and level them to 300+ and make bank off it.
I won't talk about anything else because those posts aren't mine and I mixed up what I was replying to in the first place.
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>>181886939
>>181886871
Orc is best for resto because of the SP bonus. Troll can be good for endgame enh i guess
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>>181887616
>buying characters

Holy shit that's some next level retardation. The character still has to be manually leveled to max level by someone. If I level a character to 70 then sell it after a few months the only thing that happens is that character stays in circulation instead of never logging on ever again. This is such a fucking retarded false equivalency I think you need your brain checked.
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>>181887616
>buying a full BiS character is the same as playing on a funserver

man this really makes me thinking. it's like wow doesn't even reward player skill but just time investment, what the fuck?
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>>181887770
Troll haste is also goat for Resto.
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>>181888006
>casting your heal 0.01 seconds faster is better than 300 SP
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>>181887065
sounds like a whole lot of conjecture to arrive at your conclusion

We know sellers steal accounts, refer back to my screenshot of sellers sending out gold and the inflated prices of things like dust
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>>181888117
It's 10% haste baseline, more if the shaman also took damage. Really not a bad deal as far as chain heal spam goes.
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are those <Muh Blizzlike> nerds on gummy from /vg/?
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>>181887848
>>181887896
>accuse me of false equivalency
>posting that
It doesn't matter who leveled it, if the character is sold and played it is the same as playing on an instant cap. Just have someone level the account for you.
Like you said, the fact that it can be done dilutes the system.

I never said it was a bis character stop strawmanning it's pathetic
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>>181888218
It's not conjecture, it's how they work. Most players aren't 60, most hacked players aren't 60
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>>181888738
(You)
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>>181888738
That character had to manually be leveled. It had to manually raid. It had to manually get gear. You know someone on that character had to actually put in hundreds of hours to actually get those things. There is no conceivable way that character could have gotten that gear any other way, and so it has no affect on other players if someone sells or give that character to someone else.

This is not the same thing as reward dilution. The reward mechanisms of the game remain the same. You are actually fucking retarded. Like I'm legitimately scared that there is even a chance of your genetic lineage continuing to exist.

You are equating a character who had to manually level and get gear continuing to exist within the system to someone literally spawning gear into the fucking game.

Actually fucking kill yourself, jesus fucking christ you're so fucking stupid.
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>>181888958
lol as if half of the gold seller spam in a server that can't filter it isn't coming from level capped characters
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>>181889034
Nice response, waste of bandwidth.

>>181889083
We are just talking about leveling and exp rates nothing to do with gearing up or buying bis gear

Sorry you are too retarded to follow a simple conversation without diverting and strawmanning.
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>>181889743
>We are just talking about leveling and exp rates

No, that's what you fixated on once you realised you had no argument against the 15 other points made you subhuman fucking nigger. Kill yourself.
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>>181889106
It's not, you have no proof to back that up. There are many more players below cap than at cap, which means if an account is hacked the chance of it being sub 60 is much greater.
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>>181889832
You can literally scroll up and see exactly where you go off topic here >>181887848
I even specified leveling in vanilla.
You're so upset right now it's fucking hilarious, please keep responding and ad homing
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>>181890012
again, when people are willing to pay 1k per stack of dust, you'll have no shortage of gold if you nab at least a couple of the capped accounts with their retarded sums of gold

rinse and repeat

btw half the low level pop is probably alts to a capped character anyways lel
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>>181890490
they're paying 1k for a stack of dust because gold doesn't matter when they can just use duping methods
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>>181890780
yeah all 500 people are duping
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>>181890942
>people aren't going to just dupe when there's nothing stopping them
you haven't actually posted anything to support your original argument, just anecdotes and your opinion.
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>>181891128
please refer back to my screenshots of things we can actually observe

or keep thinking all 500 people are duping lol
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>>181891267
obviously not everyone is doing it but if you think people who play on a server with shit anti cheat aren't cheating then you're a fucking retard
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>>181891775
I never said people don't cheat, but you're making quite the jump from
>at least 1 person can dupe
to
>infinite gold
which leads to
>250g in the mail every couple days

surely if at least one person can dupe then at least one person would be actively trying to ruin the server by mailing out the gold cap to each player?
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>lol10 paid staff hard at work
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>>181892094
they're advertising, it must work if they keep doing it.
one person duping has infinite gold for themselves, so a gold seller can advertise and give people gold without losing anything.
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>>181892390
give 1000 ruble for queue skip, why you play on american capitalist pigdog server
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>>181892390
>when you get btfo so badly you can't reply but are still mad enough to reply
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>>181892474
that's quite the jump, like I just outlined in the post you're replying to.

maybe the level variation of gselling advertisers has some sort of correlation to getting meager payments in the mail...
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>>181890413
Except my point still fucking stands for fast rates you fucking retard.

Day of the rope soon for shitskins like you.
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ded thread
ded server
ded game
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>>181877083
You're underrating draenei hit aura lad.
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>>181900062
All the casual retards forget that Draenei hit exists. One of if not the most powerful racial.
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>>181901201
give me a quick rundown on taking extra hit vs expertise as an alliance warrior
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>>181901434
hit make u hit
expertise make u expert
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>>181901434
You will meet a hit softcap eventually and then want expertise after that. but you will almost never get any for a while so don't worry.
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>>181900062
>>181901201
it's really not, your dps is mainly casters who are already hit capped without trying. one draeni shaman in melee group is realistically all you will need for just the hit racial.
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>>181900062
>>181901201
its alright if you can set your comp up to ensure access to it. there can be issues like overcapping on certain classes/in best available gear, but its competitive with horde

the biggest issues are of course horde racials are way better in pvp and they get seal of blood (which makes your ret non-worthless)
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>>181903282
>casters
>hit capped without trying
you need 17% to be capped as a caster lad
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>>181903282
The point of the racial isn't to hit cap people. It's to enable them to equip DPS increasing gear instead of hit gear while still remaining at hit cap.

If every player in the raid can equip a better DPS increasing piece of gear instead of needing a piece with +hit on it that's a massive dps increase for the raid.
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>>181831092
>not perfect like my gummy
I played on gummy for like 15 minutes and the only issue I've seen is that some mob had weird pathfinding where he didn't go through the middle of the corridor in a mine but decided to hug the wall and go around the middle.
At least it had no wolves running rampant inside trees
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>>181904029
Agreed.
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Does anyone know dwarf 1-10 speed run strategies? Switching over to dwarf now, can give up super secret Draenei speed leveling strategies for those that want them.

Will probably just make a map route if anyone's interested. Didn't want to do that before for obvious reasons but now that I'm probably switching it won't make a difference to me.
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SO WHICH GUILD WONT HAVE TRANNIES?
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>>181911489
literal whos but you killed it
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>>181911489
Kill yourself mocky.
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>>181911489
wpsg
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>>181882903
and those people can go fuck themselves, and play on funservers, M'kay?
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GUMMYCRAFT FUCKING WHEN
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>>181912562
One week.
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Can I switch to to prot at some point while leveling as a paladin? Just to make grouping and getting my pre-raid gear easier?
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>>181913541
You can tank dungeons as ret as long as you have a 1h+shield in your inventory somewhere.
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>>181913623
Seriously? So I just keep up righteous fury, use consecrate and use righteous defense as a taunt? Would it be better to use ret aura or dev aura? No talents in prot needed at all?
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>>181914471
Aura depends on what you need, ret aura generates threat, dev aura generates survivability
If you want to dedicate yourself to tanking a little go into protection for the righteous fury threat buff (13 points, 14 if you want kings)
That should be fine for content up to like level 56 (and I advise against doing dungeons until 70 at that point anyway)
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I really wish all of you would just drop dead already
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>>181914731
I see, I probably would be better off healing in dungeons but keeping a sword and board is much cheaper., I don't know how I would pull mobs anyway, besides exorcism.
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>>181915406
You need caster gear to heal in dungeons unless you want to drink after every single pull and fear wiping on a boss or a bad pull where you fight two groups at once.
Tanking in DPS spec will just make your healer hate you a little but as long as he has caster gear it shouldn't be an issue (and as a healer I prefer that over boring dungeons where the tank is too geared/a bit overlevelled/deep into protection and I just have to press 1 on him every 10 seconds while /following one of the range dps
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IT'S HABBEDING NOW
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>>181915892
HOL SHIT IT'S OUT, PRAISE GUMMY
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>>181915892
>>181915971
niggers
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>>181915574
Interesting. It sounds like you've done this before, any tips?
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>alexensual doesn't know what fade does on priest

lmfao
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>>181916115
Pull with a ranged spell or walk in and walk out for a bodypull so your DPS can CC enemy casters. CC is important in BC.
I'd write more but I gotta leave now.
Overall it's not hard while you're levelling, just read a general tanking guide.
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>>181916231
Cool thanks.
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>>181916139
alex has some serious anger issues
he also tells people to know the boss fights but then get surprised when bosses do spike damage to the tank
what a joke
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>>181917746
>gets aggro
>doesn't use fade
>dies
>someone says he should have used fade
>"FADE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING FUCKING RETARD"

ahaha this guy
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>>181917960
I think he banned that guy too
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>warmane
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>>181920071
>warmane
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>dude what is fade lmfao

https://streamable.com/ybhrl
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>>181921141
LEVEL

17

HUNTER
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>>181921141
>doesn't even have a threat meter
>people listen to this shitter
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>>181921319
I hope you're not implying that the retards here know any better. I think that idiot is a relatively accurate representation of the average poster here.
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>>181921579
t. alexcucksual
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>>181921579
>new IP

wonder who this could be
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>>181921141
remember to watch his "tips and tricks" for healing video guys!!

tip #1, press fade
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>badtank the child molester is rolling on gummy's

uh oh
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>trannies
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Wait what happened to the non tranny guild? I can't find it in my discord.
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>>181925157
Mocky destroyed it with his shit-posting.
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>>181925239
So wait, it was deleted or we all got kicked? Is there hope to have an alliance guild then?
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>>181925157
>>181841598
we failed...
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>>181925284
Deleted
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>>181925303
>>181925317
kek, that was short lived

what now?
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>>181925485
join normie guilds I guess
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>>181921319
He's already given his professional opinion on threat metres for healers.

https://streamable.com/4b4g7
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>>181925239
lets be real

if mocky can shitpost a guild to death in 24 hours it was never going to be successful

guild leaders for vg guild have to be able to stand daily shitposting way worse than his and tera or whatever his name was didn't last a day
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>>181925574
Probably. Doesn't make mocky and less of a faggot though.
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>>181925629
this is why literal who no-one who have never played in a vg guild before shouldn't try to skip the queue and just make their own guild; they don't understand /vg/ culture

it's shit that /vg/ is like this but what are you gonna do
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>>181925574
i don't blame him
if he is smart enough to tell that a /vg/ isn't worth his time he is smarter than most people here
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>not understanding that terranaut was a psyop by mocky and madti to make people think there is no alternative to playing with mentally ill trannies
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>>181926116
it's okay, /ourguy/ inhaler saw straight through mocky's ruse and b8ed mocky into focusing his efforts on terra
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>>181926170
redpill me on inhaler
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>>181926220
inhaler is mocky's friend actually
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>>181926572
FUCKING DROPPED
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anyone else having sound problems with the game? It sounds crispy
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>>181926815
reformat hard drive
reinstall OS
update sound drivers
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QuestHelper shows stuff like item/mob locations and drop chances for quests right?
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>>181928141
try it and find out
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>>181928337
I won't be able to for a few days and I'd like to get a list of addons to download when I am able.
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Jesus since when did this place turn into an absolute shithole, it's like every retard that was here failed a shotgun suicide and continued to post with half a brain missing...
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>>181930145
Cuckchan has been like this for about 5 years now.
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>>181904210
>>181904220
Tbc gear has a shit load of hit plus casters have talents that grant them a lot of hit.
It's really not that good
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>>181925485
There is another Ally discord in the OP. Our name isn't BRAAAAP, that wasn't even an option.
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>>181931286
sadly it was at a certain point
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>>181930928
>europeans wake up
>1:28pm
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please convince me to not roll pally
for some reason its extremely alluring
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>>181932240

No it wasnt that was Mocky shitposting.
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>>181932470
>implyiyou can't scroll up and see exactly when everyone started talking about trannies
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>>181933148
it was in the first straw poll
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>>181932714
What spec and faction?
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>>181926572
Is this confirmed? If it is, then he is a tranny supporter, just by proxy. A new guild and a new discord must be made for alliance players then
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>>181933463
Mocky still isn't kicked from inhalers discord. You do the math
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>>181933463
not confirmed but people have witnessed them collaborate
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>>181933463
>>181933561
>>181933576
Inhaler was the one that asked why Mocky wasn't kicked from literal whos. Mocky has about 5 different discord accounts, it's pointless to ban him. When the server comes out justice will be served.
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>>181934020
Mocky will be fine.

Can't cuck the clique.
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>>181934471
Why is everyone oggling over that faggot?
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>>181934705
cute girls with big tits always get attention
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>>181934020
Inhaler wants mocky kicked out of terranauts discord but leaves him in his. W E W
So inhaler is with the tranny enabler, cooperating to kill off any alternative.
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FUCK
OFF
MOCKY
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>>181934742
>>181934761
Fucking quit it. Take your retarded fangirling and circlejerking somewhere else this shit is insane.
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>>181934705
It's literally just a few people spamming for attention and to mae epic inside memes xD.
They're underage kids
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Reminder the /wpsg/ is your only hope if you want to clear content with /vg/.
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>>181934804
What did I say that wasn't true. Inhaler asked why mocky wasn't kicked out of terranauts discord.
Mocky is now in inhalers discord. Not kicked, allowed to shit up the chat. You see no issues there?
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>>181934968
Quit talking about the autistic clique it's obnoxious and nobody cares about it. If we're going on a new server we need new morals.
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FUCK
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>>181934949
I tried to apply but they said no /elyg/ allowed.
How did they know bros?
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>>181935050
>stop pointing out I am am inconsistent faggot who's working with the trannies

Nice try, Inhaler
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>>181934968
>inhaler asks terra to ban mocky
>terra bans mocky
>mocky comes back in under 30 seconds with a new account but same avatar and starts shitting it all up again

The guy is relentless. No point in banning him until the server is up.
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OFF
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>>181935202
Yeah, just leave him in the chat :^)
No harm done
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>>181935163
>>181935202
Who the fuck is Inhaler???
And again, that's another thing, the tranny posting isn't cute or funny. If a new guild is made that shit needs to go.
Now quit talking about drama bullshit and start talking about what we're going to do.
I'm going to roll an orc shaman.
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MOCKY
>>
the entire MoH clique is already in the new discord
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>>181935279
Good luck competing with MoH on horde
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>>181935279
Inhaler is the leader of the new guild. He said he'll take care of trannies, but so far he has only cooperated with them to kill the competition from Terranaut.

WE NEED A PROPER NEWS GUILD WHICH WILL ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRANNY MENACE.
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>>181935279
>And again, that's another thing, the tranny posting isn't cute or funny. If a new guild is made that shit needs to go.

>I'm going to roll an orc shaman.

wew lad, you're literally rolling the tranny faction
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>>181935279
>>181935405
Join the /wpsg/ guild, trannies got btfo hard last time they tried to play with them.
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>>181935405
you're right

Madti, please save us from this tranny menace!
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>>181935405
Inhaler wanted to merge with Terra and terra said no and wanted 2 competing alliance guilds.

Terra was incompetent as fuck.
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>>181935489
Link to discord pls
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>>181935390
>>181935405
>>181935449
>>181935489
I THOUGHT WE WERE ROLLING HORDE DAMN IT.
Also what's /wpsg/?
>>
>>181935524
If you're not in the /wpsg/ discord by now you're going to have to wait.
A seperate discord will be made for the guild when a release is given, but there's no reason to do it now or even post it in the thread
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>>181935489
on the server where nobody played?
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>>181935405
Okay in that case let's create an entirely new guild together so we won't have to cry and bitch about it.
No fangirling
No autism
No trannies
Let's create a new guild and have a poll for it, any name suggestions?
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>>181935638
so there's a clique already? cool
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>>181935596
/wpsg/ was basically the general for all private servers. It was basically like /elyg/ but leas reddit cancer and no tranny xd spam. more expansion fighting cancer and cata+ cancer though

>>181935670
>gets btfo
>w-we didn't want to play anyway
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>>181935724
<Fuck Off Mocky>
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>>181935784
Okay how do I join then?
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>>181935784
>>w-we didn't want to play anyway

even the MoH guild had less than 5 active members

I don't why you keep lying about this fact, are you scared of MoH being an established guild that everyone will join on Gummy?
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>>181935751
Duh there's a clique of good competent players. That's the core of any 25 man raiding guild, be good and you can get in easily like how /wpsg/ has always worked.
Be an annoying spammer and get booted, up to you really.
>>
>>181935845
https://discord.gg/aqtWBzx
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>>181935862
>GM, officers and everything has already been decided
>it will be a clique of 5 friends

lol
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>>181935507
1) Inhaler has never approached me about merging (although he was on my server). Furthermore I've invited everyone to join the Discord/the Guild. I was just against actively poaching on the other discord for members, or relinquishing the control over who gets to kick the retards because I've seen it not done in the past whenever somebody promised to deal with the shitposters in a proper manner.
2) There was no decision about the faction by the time I shut down the Discord.
Don't spread misinfo you faggot.
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>>181935845
Just chill and wait for release date, nothing to hurry about.

>>181935857
Lol whatever, nobody cares about your underage erp group
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Gummy is 1x

Enjoy your dead GM/officers after 1 week if you join the /wpsg/ guild kek
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>>181935946
+1 upvoted
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>>181936057
1x on TBC ain't so bad.
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>/wpsg/ brought up
>trannies blow their wig
Like clockwork. I guess the ass pain from HG is still fresh.
>>
Why is /wpsg/ so scared of the trannies?
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who /patiently waiting for the best expansion on northcraft/ here?
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>>181936802
wotlk is shit
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Go here
>>181933765
>>181933765
>>181933765

>>181933765
>>181933765
>>181933765

>>181933765
>>181933765
>>181933765

No reddit guilds, no trannies, no mocky we're creating a new guild.
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>>181936802
Northcraft literally doesn't have a real dev anymore, they only have db editors.
Why wait for stock sunwell when you can experience it on dozens of servers right now or host your own?
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>>181936967
Another guild...
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>>181930336
a lot of different classes have +hit talents and a bunch of gear has hit because you need 17-fucking-percent. that is a lot of itemization toward hit which could be used on crit or later on haste. just because you don't understand the concept of fungibility doesn't mean the racial isn't good
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>>181937250
No, idiot you don't understand tbc because you are a useless vanilla baby. Casters don't have better talents to get, pre raid gear is LOADED with +hit, you can't change base stats on items. You don't need more hit and you can't get less when you're over cap without gems.

Why are you so fucking retarded? You don't know tbc but act like some fucking authority kill yourself. It's literally not that good ever, a simple +200 sp racial or berserking is better
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>>181937001
>Why wait for stock sunwell when you can experience it on dozens of servers right
because they're all old af and have p2w jew shops
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>>181937560
My goodness you're retarded. What +hit talents do fire mages and warlocks have? I'll wait. Just because gear exists with hit on it - and there is a bunch of gear with +hit because you need so fucking much - doesn't mean other gear with different stats doesn't exist. I understand you are a complete mongoloid, but this should be a pretty simple concept to grasp.
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>>181938349
No point arguing with people who never played tbc. So sure you're right when you're just a retard.
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>>181938349
Warlocks have none, Mages have 3% hit from Elemental Precision.
1% hit from Draenei racial is literally 15 rating points. That's like, 3 hit gems replaced by pure stat gems so literally 15 more <primary stat> or 30 AP or 18 spell damage. Or 15 crit/haste rating.
Basically nothing.
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>>181939424
multiply that by 5 people in the group
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>>181939659
That's not how it works. The dps gain for each character in the group is miniscule no matter what they use their newfound 15 item budget points on.
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>>181938349

Fire mages benefit from elemental precision in the frost tree, a fire mage needs 164 hit rating from gear for hit cap.
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>>181940006
That's exactly how it works, but your math the group gains 90sp at all times. Realistically though the draenei in the group is probably going to be a shaman, 75% of the time resto, so the group only gets 72sp, though of course it could be an spriest or mage - though gnome would be a much better choice for mage.
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>>181939659
>retards think this is better than an on use +200 sp that can be used with lust, drums, and other cooldowns during a specific phase of the encounter.
BUT MY +10 HASTE! Alliance racials are so good, I would know I have never played tbc but i am so smart and a vanilla pro!
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>>181940401
Now, imagine it's an orc shaman and 4 orc locks.
They get 300 sp from their racial with 12% uptime (15s duration and 120s cd).
That's 36 average sp per caster or 180 total counting the shaman and 144 not counting the shaman.
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>>181940401
No. You count what each fucking casters gets from the bonus 18 spell damage and then sum it up.
18 spell damage scales differently between casters depending on their main nuke coefficients.
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>muh racials
holy shit are you nerds still arguing over fucking single digit number crunching in a 20 year old game?
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>>181940725
Oh absolutely, but the rest of the group for ally consists of 3 gnomes, 2 locks 1 mage with +5% int and probably a human/dwarf/nelf priest with no +damage racial. I'm assuming the priest isn't some special snowflake smite build which is actually viable for a bit in T5 due to gear.
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>>181940915
>main nuke coefficients
I'm not 100%, but do 3 second casts get full sp or is it 3.5? shadow bolt and fire bolt with talents are both 3 seconds and should get the same.
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>>181941494
Shadow Bolt gets 0.85 base, 1.02 with SnF.
Fireball gets 1 base, 1.15 with emp fireball.
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