Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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Classic Xul NOW, my friends.

Don't stop dreaming, or you'll never know what it feels like to be awake. Love one another.

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>>181696952
>not posting comfiest theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMAbNFptzAA

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Female protoss when?

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reposting b/c new didnt see new thread
>guy lastpick prepicks aba
>team doesnt build around him
>wont swap off
>i ban aba so the tard plays something useful
>he leaves
i could feel his rage

>>181698943
>double post
here's your (you)

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>>181699263
I can get double the upvotes like that!

>>181698621
Selendis could be fun. Being as she gets extremely fucking wet over having an honorable tussle with "Friend Raynor" in wings of liberty.

The only issue is with her kit. Artanis, Fenix and Selendis were all zealot units, and they've already said that Fenix isn't doable with as zealot kit because there wasn't much more to it than charging in and stabbing shit with psi blades and artanis already has that covered.

Maybe selendis could be an Adept type unit and become a protoss ranged damage dealer. Even then that stretches her kit a bit.

We've currently got Alarak, Artanis, Zera, Tassadar and Probius, 3 of those being melee and the other two being support and specialist.

A semi-tanky ranged attacker (somewhere between cassia and raynor in gameplay) could be fun.

how do i get better with uther

i usually get around 30-sub30k healing at round end and i cant figure out what im doing wrong

>>181699590
>fenix
I always figured they would do dragoon fenix or purifier fenix

>>181699590
Maybe a support?

>>181699834
People will always shit their pants in anger over Fenix not being a zealot unit. Cuz muh nostalgia. And they'll be angry as fuck about Talandar too.

>>181700016
Protoss could use another support maybe, but I dont see selendis being it; Maybe Preserver Rohanna but not Selendis. Tassadar fits as a support because in spite of being one of the most badass warriors to ever live (Zealot -> High Templar -> Dark templar -> Void adept) he was basically Protoss Gandhi, not afraid of violence when it was necessary but preferring alternate means (and the only time he *really* felt violence was necessary was against the zerg). Fun fact they actually wanted to use a Dark Templar as the base unit for tass in sc1 briefly. He was a super-mentor character and often took a more passive / supporting role rather than a direct one. Part of the reason that Artanis turned out so great is because Tassadar mentored him (and fenix).

Turning Rohanna into a support would be a super-stretch too though.

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So I'm gonna level TLV to 5. Should I buy a stimpack? I imagine it'll be a horrible experience without.

>>181700310
if team is smart: split for xp while they get kills
if team is pubtards: group vikings up and have fun

>>181700310
prepare to get flamed and blamed for every single misery in their life

>>181700310
You really want to play with at least one friend who will play a tank. That way you can tell your team to 4-man roam following said tank, while you practice your three lane soak, mercenary timings, and viking rotations based on objectives.

>teammate calls me out for not being at objective fights
>I'm lost vikings

w e w

>>181700698
should always send olaf for objectives

>>181700698
Erik perma-stalls objectives unless they dedicate at least one person with good denial/poke or 2+ people to keep you away.
Post 16, Vikings do a shit ton of damage with spin-to-win, and Olaf stun can make up for having a shitty tank who doesn't know how to initiate if you suspect the game will finish before 20.

so how would you like to see them do a Hybrid character?

>>181701089
Wouldnt. Would rather reserve it as a map mechanic.

Possibly for a crazy map like Overmind vs Old God (Yogg-Saron / C'thun)

>>181701089
What, like Multi-Class? What do you mean?

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>>181701089
at most a skin theme for another character or two, possibly Diablo

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I really REALLY like this slut.

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>>181701328
no as in these guys

>>181701328
Stukov, Protoss edition

Why are Tychus's heroics so shit? Beam has terrible range and no health, while the other is more for waveclear and pushing towers than teamfights.

>>181699407
Pic gives a good point: "at least it's not facebook"

>It's another "5-Stack Plays Against A Team of Soloqueues" episode

I can't believe this faggotry is still allowed. Really loving the fact they seem to sit around and play with their dicks and not lift a single fucking finger to try and improve ANY mode in this game. Won't fix 5-stacking against solo queues, won't allow swaps in HL, won't add map vetos, won't even make Brawl's worthwhile because one fucking box is nothing.

These fucking assholes do absolutely nothing to legitimately improve the game itself outside of some "balancing" here and there.

>>181702737
>won't allow swaps in HL
what really
why

>>181702274
>Why are Tychus's heroics so shit?
WHAT? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

Fucking. What!? Tychus' heroics are *great*. Laser drill has a ton of range and can easily be used to zone or siege against a team that cant easily get to it. It's also an instant-cast that creates unpathable terrain, when used smartly you can prevent people from getting to you. You can also just target it on the support and make them go "oh shit I dont want to be near this".

Odin turns your short range tank shredder into a much longer range durable heavy hitter (gaining a bunch of armor and a lot of range). You also get fucking amazing aoe abilities too.

Both of tychus' ultimates are utility oriented and both of them are quite powerful. Laser drill at level 10 will if targeted on a fort for its full 22 second duration do 202 dps, or 4444 total damage; which is about 40% of the forts 11250 hp. At level 20 without upgrade it does 287 damage per second, or about 6300 damage. With upgrade it goes up to ~575 dps, or about 12500 damage (not quite sure how long it takes to hit damage cap so it's probably about 1000 damage lower than that actually) which is close to 90% of a keeps 14300 hp.

The core itself only has 22000 HP (and 11000 shields) at minute 20, so laser drill can do a significant portion of that too.

So overall. Fuck off you're wrong.

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>well done... things are about to get GRAVE

Why is the Grave Keeper such a gigantic nerd?
No wonder the Raven Lord wants him to fuck off ASAP

Li Ming needs better skins, so does Slyvanas.

Lots of people do actually.

Blizz make more mecha skins, shit like Space Lord Leoric and Mecha Dehaka are cool as fuck.

>>181703250
i wont rest until every character has a robotic voice filter

>>181702840
No idea. The mechanic exists and has for a while. You can hero swap in custom games. It probably wouldn't take any effort to implement it in HL.

The whole draft interface needs to be reworked IMO. The coin toss at the start is like super low-res and has no anti-aliasing. We're getting to the point where 3 bans isn't out of the question. The windows on your team should really display the character name before they're locked in. I know you can mouse over it, but some skins really look like other characters.

>>181703250
Mecha zul jin when

>>181703191
>I have opened a tunnel that leads to the center

>WHAT!?!?! SAME!

>>181703191

Towers of Doom is the best map

>Best Aesthetic
>Best Gimmick
>Comebacks possible
>Three lanes
>Fun announcer interaction

four lane map inc. next month

>>181703505
its literally the worst map in the game.

>>181703724

lol

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>>181701471
Well this guy is basically Rubrick and he's a pretty good character even though Blizzard couldn't make his ultimate work with their horrible spaghetti code perversion of the SC2 engine.

So he's got the levitate which is a fire and forget stun and you can get a talent that lets you throw people with impact damage if they hit a wall or slam it back down as an aoe stun/slow.
Then the blink. Maybe a talent that lets you take nearby allies for the ride.
Lightning zap is pretty boring but whatever. Give it a bounce or a slow or channel like emperor palpatine for big damage.
Trait is that passively a percentage of the damage you deal turns into health but you only start to recover once you're considered out of combat. Activate it to mind control all the creeps within the aoe.

First ultimate lets you choose a respawn location and the next time you die you revive in 16 seconds. But if the enemy finds your respawn spot and destroys it you have to eat the full duration.
Next ultimate increases your "lifesteal" further and lets you share it with an ally or deal damage over time to an enemy.

>>181703505
Towers of Doom and Hanamura are the worst sacks of shit in this game.

The ONLY sacks of shit actually, I like every other map just fine. Even Tomb of the Spider Queen grew on me, that used to be the only map I hated before Towers.

>>181703857

>Liking haunted mines and braxis

wew

>play TLV
>get 2 lane map

stop this I just want to be useful. It doesn't help for some reason there's almost always a Nova ready to fuck up my lone Viking before I can get him away, I know they don't give that much xp on death but its still annoying

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Why do female protoss looks so smooth and soft? I want to touch one.

>>181704010
Their skin is scaly, males and females are muscular lanky and 'bony', their heads have large boney ridges.

They wont live up to expectation anon.

>>181704010
>Female protoss
Can those aliens even be female? I see those "femine" protoss characters like selendis or vorazun only as ladyboys if they can be male in first place since I assume they don't even have genitals as such

>>181703934
I see a lot of people hating on Tower of Doom but it's not that bad. It's kind of like a worse dragon shire.
But Braxis is still god awful especially in QM because some characters are really phenominal at dealing with zerg and other teams just kind of have to roll over and die because they just can't fight back or you get stuck with shitty early game characters in a map that can end in the first push.
And haunted mines is still my least favorite. You kind of want to get a golem because that's the objective but it's probably the single worst boss in the whole game. It's attacks are boring and shitty and even a 100 skull golem will die without your intervention as long as both your turrets are still alive.

>>181695874
Xul is not only a bad hero, he's also fucking boring.

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>>181703593
>more than 3

>>181703593
>4 lanes
I am sure Chogall + Abathur team will have a lot of fun there

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First for Demon Hunters wear C-String Pantsu.

>>181704010
Protoss are a proud and noble race. They are not for touching.

>>181703191
i want a grave keeper and ravenlord cho'gall skin

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>malthael still not nerfed
>hanamura still not removed

Is there a chance we get a 3 lane map without an objective?

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>>181705281
That would be toxic.
I think one of the reasons there are objectives on every map, on top of the other obvious reasons, is so that games end faster so if it's a pure hero-vs-hero game with 3 lanes, it's going to definitely turn into Dota or LoL except maybe slower because there are no items to farm.

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>>181705281
that sound boring.

>>181705281
No, because then all the pros and everyone else would only want to play it, leaving us in the League/DOTA situation where there is only one map.

>>181705396
>mfw arthas was right tho

I think I realise why the majority of everybody in existance except myself and literally 12 other people seem to hate Hanamura. It's because the vast majority of the community are Nazebo mains. All they do is pick Naz, have their safe lanning phase, play their ez mode baby hero, whenever they get ganked go "team?" or "..." and never show up to objectives. They hate hanamura and towers of doom because their afksplitpush and wait for the team to clean up 4v5 strat doesn't work on those maps as effectively. They actually have to participate in a game and because they lack map awareness, positioning and in general not knowing how to play they just lose and get frustrated.

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>>181700821
i hear a lot that tlv are great for objectives but i just cant wrap my head around it. erik and baleog don't fare well against creeps on mines, garden, and end up dying when there's at least one person parked on the objective on braxis.

on warhead i can see them being useful when there's more than 2 nukes out

>>181705568
Hanamura is my favorite map to autistically push a lane in. Too bad the next patch will make nerf that.

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>>181705745
Nothing beats the chef version.

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>>181705301
m-more?

Has any one gotten any of the prizes from the lottery shit yet?

>>181705568
No.

They hate hanamura because you are rewarded for ignoring the objective and smashing lanes. The objective in hanamura doesn't go away if you ignore it (unlike in towers of doom where the opposing team can take it). It doesn't give experience or tangible advantage for taking it (eg sky temple, braxis, battlefield or cursed hollow) Camps aren't worth doing (unless for cursory bribe experience). Destroying forts makes your objective permanently stronger, gives you experience that can snowball you above your opponents. Destroying *keeps* gives a permanent push and potential core damage to a lane.

There's no real reason to contest opponents from pushing instead of just autistically pushing lanes in. Combine that with the map being 'too short' (its unusual to hit level 20 talents) and wildly snowbally currently and you have a great reason to hate the map.

It's a horribly poorly designed map. The single best strategy is to trash both lanes, make your two turnins then do boss and either win off of that, or win off of sappers pushing in.

>>181705705
>TLV are less effective on two lane maps

you don't say?

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>>181705745
GLAD YOU COULD MAKE IT ARTHAS

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>>181706032
Wait, destroying a fort affects all carts? I figured it was just the next one. That's pretty fucking stronk.

>people rage because i only split my vikings 1 / 2. (2 in one lane the other solo)

get fucked, it works. meme splitting if fcuking annoying anyways, I thought Blizzard's philosophy was to play heroes how you want them to be played? Why the fuck are TLV forced to split every game?

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>>181706196
fucking kek why is this a thing

While sprays have become an acceptable BM method in addition to B-stepping, voice lines are still pretty bad.
Since 2.0 launched I think ive used them less than 10 times and I dont even bother changing them in the loadouts anymore. Atm the volume is too low and theres too big of a delay in between usage.
Just off the top of my head, I think increasing the volume and letting us spam them (within reason) would make them more fun. If its really problematic just add a way to squelch voice lines.
In overwatch some of the ways I like being a piece of shit is when playing D.Va to spam the L O L voice line when something funny happens for example.

>>181706223
I get that too. I have to explain to the team in very small words that I need two Vikings in the bottom lane to deal with the enemy specialist, especially when those fucks keep ignoring my pings for help.
Besides, I usually have one Viking up top, two down below, and the rest of the team roiling around in the middle lane, failing at 4v3 fights.

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>>181705471
I blame Jaina

>>181706205
It only affects one. But with 4 dead forts/keeps, thats 5 shots. You have two turnins to account for, so that's another +1 shot (for 6) and as the core only has 7 hp, you only need one sapper or the boss to win.

It's a shit map.

>>181706280
Because was a huge, poignant moment in Arthas' development, paving the way to his fall from grace far better than the prequel trilogy ever did for Anakin.

Does Ragnaros have any kind of role in the meta at this point? Feels like they've just constantly beaten his numbers into the dust to the point I feel like I'm almost throwing picking him

>>181706536
He's situational, based a lot on the map. But I still get by great with him when I have a good tank. Otherwise he's just a big orange target.
But he still has multiple viable builds even if he's not the total wrecking ball he once was.

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>>181706643
Looked like green Schwarzwald from Big O for a second.
Who just so happened to be voiced by Uther.
https://youtu.be/sHChe6KY0DQ

>post yfw next week and you have to decide between first banning malthael or first banning stukov

>>181706804
Oh yeah, and Rexxar was Roger Smith.

>>181706536
he makes matches last 5 times longer with his bullshit wave clear move.

>when you're sololane and all your teammates just fucking die in a midfight over nothing

stop this, you don't even need to last hit minions how the fuck do people die while soaking.

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>>181704010
thicc

>>181707467
I see this happen a lot when shitter see the enemy at low health and tunnel vision on that and ignore the healer and tank and towers and minions all around them and think they're going to be a hero by getting that gank, even at the cost of their own life.

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When?

>>181704182
>Won't live up to expectations
Nice try, you just want them all to yourself

how does glogan win games? i dont get it.

i've had teammates get tilted by him on the opposite team, and when on my team. its the weirdest thing i've ever fucking seen.

just the fact that this guy exists tilts the fuck out of everyone

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>>181707715
abathur skin

>>181707934
>glogan exists
>people still think you can't climb
Dude is literally a moron and he's up there.
Fucking instalose whenever his MMR gets high enough to go against decent players.

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I'm stuck in Gold every season but I'm better than Glogan. I'm just in mmr hell. My teammates are always throwing. I just get unlucky. Glogan sucks but I am better. It's just the flawed blizzard mmr system.

>>181708769
>tfw stuck in gold 1
>cant get into plat because cant win 2 games in a row.

>tfw just play QM and dont give a fuck about ranked
Fun things are fun.

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>>181707697
Game is hard.

Maybe people just overestimate their survivability and damage at lv 1 because they forgot how it's like to be under lv 20. So they sit there thinking "I can tank this" or "I can take this" and then get shocked that they didn't. At least these mistakes are (usually) made at lv 1 when first blood exp doesn't matter that much.

>>181709068
This is me, except if I really want the mount reward I'll play Ranked until I get to Master, then I'm fucking out of there.

>>181703857
You just told me you never play this game with friends by that logic. Both maps are fine they just demand teamwork on a lvl that other maps don't. Basically if you just que with randoms and whatnot in QM then yes you will suffer everytime, but get with friends you play with more so with chat and it goes piss easy.

>>181704245
short answer is they didn't have that shit originally and reproduced by basically budding however newer works and in SC2 have set them up as normal breeding.

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>>181703857
I really like Towers of Doom.
I hate Cursed Hollow

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>>181709170
>you have ping too much
I didn't even know that was a thing, how huge a faggot are you?

>>181709704
My dad's uncle's third cousin twice-removed works at Blizzard. He says it's okay to relentlessly ping people when they're afk.

>>181709170
>Never left stealth

typical shit Nova player

>>181709170
>nova player
>pings to the maximum allowance
>like the little shit they are just hide and never help

I really wish you would both leave the general and stop playing the game.

Does Elite AI give more exp than lower difficulties?

>>181710415
No.

>>181710415
No it doesn't. It only seems like that because games take longer.

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Anyone on EU win anything yet?

>>181710415
Only game length determines XP vs AI.

>>181710864
SOURCE. PLEASE.

>>181710415
No. All Ai's give out the same XP. Xp is split among forts, minions, camps, and hero kills. In a 3 lane map, with a stimpack, a five man team as well as play with a friend bonus you can get 600,000+ xp if:
you clear all the forts/buildings
get to lvl 20+
get around 30 hero kills
clear each lane of minions about 5 times each


That said you have to have a group that is taking farming seriously and will not just blast through it for the sake of it. So say on Beginner ai, you need to just aim for hero kills at the start and avoid attack structures till you hit about lvl 10 and from there just start on a lane and death ball to the core to then fall back and start again on the next lane. I guess if you really wanted huge xp in a single game you just keep hero killing and ignore the core you could hit stupid high xp gains post game but that is a very boring time.

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>>181710307
It's amusing you guys get mad about "not helping" when the conversation was about people dying in pointless low stakes fights in mid.

>>181711094
600k xp after how long?

Sounds like it'll be worse xp/time than just spamming the shit out of sub 3 minute mid rushes. Those get you 30k a pop.

>>181703191
>when one pun isnt enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyX2_XfIHE

>>181711240
about 15/20 minutes depending on team comp. four specialist that know how to play can clear all forts in under 6 minutes leaving the other 10ish to just hero kill.

>>181711194
I'm not mad I just don't think a faggot nova player has much room to talk

>>181711384
That actually sounds like it might be better because there's less downtime in ending/restarting games.

I'd join a grinding party like that.

>>181711470
You make it sound like I was shittalking or something. Where in my post was I shittalking? I was explicitly not shittalking.

>>181711639
>typical.tank.picker.04
that's the file name. So good job, you debate about as good as you play games in hots ya faggot.

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>>181704182
>he doesn't like scales

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>>181711975
I don't really much care for snaeks. Being canadian I've had two experiences with them. One when I was in preschool and I didnt want anything to do with that shit and the other when I was 23 working night shift at a convenience store.

-35 weather and a guy comes in and wanders around the store for a bit, grabs his stuff, comes up to pay and then goes "Wanna see something cool?" and I was like "Eh sure I suppose", so he unzips his winter jacket, and there's a snake wrapped around his waste. Said snake is probably on the edge of torpor cause its 2 AM AND MINUS FUCKING FOURTY and the owner is taking it on a "walk". It immediately tries to move to the warmest thing nearby, which is me. The snake lunging at me was completely unexpected so I noped the fuck right out of there. I've seen some shit man (got to help keep a kid alive after he punched out a car window), but that wasn't anything I'd expect.

Have an extremely oversaturated picture of a snaek that I've only saved because I thought it would make good /tg/ fodder. I cant fucking stand birds either.

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>>181712315
>>181711975
Cute snaek tho.

Did I missed something out or why is Jaina a dreadlord?

And why is this a meme?

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>>181711975
>posts the gif I've posted just the other day in /hotsg/
could've at least left me a (You) because snek didnt get me any.

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>>181712395
4u
>>181712730
She had nervous breakdown just before WoD and now her dragon lover is dead too.

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>>181712767
I got it from lurking /an/ if you found it on /vg/ it was most likely from me.

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>>181706520
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>>181705961
>not the russian version

>>181713493
you cant just post shit like this anon. i was drinking water and i laughed so hard i choked and shot water out of my nose

Culling of Stratholme map when?

>>181711045
Evulchibi

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WHERE the FUCK is she Blizzard?!?!?

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>>181714614
WHERE the HECK is he?!?!

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>>181714614
>>181714702
When the flying frick?!?!

>>181714702
>Dreadlord
But Jaina is already ingame?

>>181715160
Lol jesse cox is so funny XD

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>>181695874
Describe a character with "MUH X"

>MUH ESSENCE

The draw was supposed to be yesterday
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FREE STUFF?

>>181714614
Zagara skin

Did Blizzard already announce the winners of the first week?

>>181714614
>>181716670
no way

Cydaea, Maiden of Lust
>qt spider girl
Z: Silkweb, allows Cydaea to rise up onto a web above the battlefield. Allows faster movespeed and invulnerability. Constantly taunts enemy team while on the Silkweb.

D: Power from Pain: as her health drops, Cydaea recharges all of her cooldowns at increasing rate, while her taunting phrases become more and more threatening (as opposed to originally mocking ones).

Q: Poison Spit. Cydaea spits poison towards her foes. Basically Lunara's auto attack except in a cone shape.

W: Impaling Limb: Cydaea impales foe on her forelimb, rooting them in place and dealing high damage.

E: Net Toss: Cydaea tosses a web on the ground, making it sticky and difficult to move across. Foes directly hit by the initial toss will be rooted and attacked by spiders dropping from the Silkweb.

R1: Spiderling Pit: Cydaea drops a toxic pool underneath her, constantly spawning spiders to attack everything nearby, focusing on heroes first before pushing lane and buildings. Can be used from the Silkweb.

R2: Children of Lust: Cydaea summons a vanguard of succubi, following her around and casting Bloodstar at Cydaea's targets. Bloodstar applies a curse to enemies that cause high damage when the enemy uses abilities.

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how the hell do I get 2400 shards before this event ends (3 weeks)?

I want one of the surfboards but I'm only at 800. Is there any fast way to get shards?

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>>181716087
based v.a who literally saved this shitshow wc3 custom game.

>>181717657
open up that wallet like a good goy

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>>181716087
muh spirits

>>181717657
Spam leveling characters is the only free way.

>>181717721
I wonder, if his wife asks him to role play as one of the characters he voiced, when they're in bed.

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>>181717657
>He isn't a good goy
Had 6000 before the event

>>181718137
>spending a single shard before the last day of the event
I see you are new to this stuff.

>>181717657
1600 by the end of the event basically means you gotta grind quite a bit and get lucky, otherwise open that wallet
Side note, does this artist have a name or page somewhere where I can follow them?

>>181716087
Muh brew.

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>>181717657
Isnt Stukov out on 11th and event ends up on 24th?
That means new batch of skins should reduce event prices?

I wonder how many games I've thrown trying to steal a camp with half my team ignoring my pings. In QM, there are no tanks and people seem to just initiate whenever.

I just can't help but feel if there is literally only one camp up and the enemy team isn't in vision and you are even level, it is worth forcing a fight.

And when the whole team does follow, it usually does work out.

>>181719918
Don't blame everything on your team. Learn from your mistakes and stop going everywhere solo.

>>181719693
If they're like Overwatch (They will be) then no

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>>181719918
Yesterday i won with a 2 solos+ 3 man against a super snowflake 5 man because they overextended and got wiped so we pushed the core.


Also side topic i just had a dream Blizz will have a promotion somewhere soon so...get excited?

>>181720158
Don't worry. I know. I did say I end up throwing. 5 people with a bad plan is better than 1 with a good one. It is when we end up splitting 3-2 with decisions that causes problems.

Two people are top during objective. So clearly we have to give and just defend punisher, but the other two still want to run in and kill some skeletons.

Stuff like that. I'm definitely part of the problem.

>>181717657
Assuming a minimum worst case of WWBW memewatch-style (e.g. reroll all quad whites), you'll get 35 shards per box. To get 2400 shards out of that, you need almost 70 boxes which amounts to 84 mil exp assuming you're a fag with lv 10 heroes across the board so every hero level is 1.2 mil exp per level.

Assuming you get about 200k exp per 20-something minute win, that would be about 420 games, which translates to over 140 hours of HotS +- a couple boxes from brawls. If what >>181719693 says about the event ending on the 24th is true, then you have 20 more days (including today) to grind that out, probably 7 hours a day or 8 hours a day if you want some legroom in case something comes up stopping you from playing for a day.

>not having 2400 shards already
Good luck.

>>181716087
Muh uncle taught this one!

>>181720515
This isn't perfect though, there's at least one epic per 5 chests and 1 legendary per 18 or less.
If you have a decent spread of stuff already you get like 250 per 5 boxes averaged out
Still quite a long shot, though.

>>181720676
He might get lucky and get a board from a box, at least Blizz put in 6 of them so chances are bigger.

>>181720748
Yea i'm not doubting he has a chance (I got 2 boards in the 20 or so chests i've opened), but trying to craft one is super unlikely unless he rolls it/a bunch of duplicate legendaries

>>181720676
>1 legendary per 18 or less.
Was that number ever confirmed by other people? And did that include rerolls?

There was that one article where some blogger put out some bullshit number where their data was "We watched some Twitch streamers unbox some stuff." and failed to mention anything else.

>>181721005
There's thousands of boxes recorded at this point, it's similar to Hearthstone where it was reverse engineered. If it IS higher than that you would have to be incredibly unlucky.

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>QM game
>people don't play so hot, oh well it's QM
>someone rages about it and flames
>tell them to chill the fuck out and they just sperg at you saying 'well you're meant to play to win in QM too!'

Never understood this logic. Just play ranked if you want to play to win that badly. Of course you look at their match history and they never do play ranked at all.

>>181721218
>Play game for fun
>People are obviously fucking around, causing game to be less fun
>Don't have fun
>J-just play ranked

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>tfw no easy boxes to farm since everyone's lv 5+ now
Who can I main endlessly to make the grind seem less painful?

>>181721218
Im not pissed if we lose QM because people are bad but there is a big line of retardation you cannot cross
>>181721353
>lvl 5
Big fucking deal, just play whoever you enjoy
Malth

>>181721263
What do you expect by going into the most random and casual game mode?
If you went into a ranked match, sure, it's bad play if people are fucking about, but QM is like the Wild West. It's futile trying to rage against it. People are gonna fuck up, comps are gonna be weird, it's just fact.

>>181721218

Sometimes in QM you've already lost from the loading screen

>>181721183
Didn't really answer the question of whether rerolls were part of the 18 or not because when the article came out, it was on PTR so presumably the streamers rerolled the shit out of their boxes because they had nothing to lose but the article specified boxes, not rerolls.

I have a hoard of 100k gold, doesn't mean the other anon has his own gold hoard so we can't just assume rerolls are available for his hypothetical grind to 2,400 shards. Plus it assumed the boxes gave all shards because they only give dupes. If they're not 100% dupes, he's losing out on short term shard gain. It's a hypothetical exercise. It'd be nice if he got the shit he wants from the boxes or rolled endless legendary dupes for shards but it would most likely shave a few boxes off the actual expected number of boxes but doesn't really change that it's in the ballpark of 70 boxes.

>>181721353
Spam Morales for the tri-mastery portrait at 15.

>>181721353
find 4 other faggots and grind 5 man Team League.

>>181721682
This isn't always true. I've had games where we were stomped but still won due to superior map control and banking on late game. People who give up are the real cause of losses, not "muh comps".

>>181722505

You probably capitalized off the enemy getting greedy and doing dumb shit. Some heroes have maps where they'll do fuck all.

Li Ming for example is almost completely useless on Braxis,

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>>181722505
There are definitely matches that you cant win unless the other team is fucking retarded.

>>181722973
I don't see an issue with this.

stukov's heal is almost as good as rehgar's ult

nice game hotsTARDS

>>181723258
Its bugged. 50% on the top from level 1, not intended will be fixed.

>>181723258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh_p20lHqtA

Did that sexy picture of Zarya and Sgt. Hammer ever get finished?

>>181722973
>subpar Chen and Xul
>silenceable Tracer glass cannon
Whats the issue?

>people wanted le splitpusher summoner Stukov
why do autists love summonable units?

>>181723417

>Sexy picture
>Zarya

Does not compute

>>181723450
>chen
>tracer
>backline even having a chance

>>181722812
>Li Ming for example is almost completely useless on Braxis,
why?

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>>181723559

>>181723656
>Dahaka and Thrall stun/roots
>PROTECTED
>portal
Dont be a bronzie

>>181723697

Because *blocks your path* is intensified during zerg waves.

She's fine anytime else, but goddamn do I feel helpless when all that crap's in the way.

>>181723749
>qm with randoms
>lol just be coordinated

>>181723749

As I said. Does not compute. Only appealing thing in that picture is the tits.

>>181723217
>>181723450
>almost no cc on blue team except for Dehaka tonque and Thrall root
>doing shit against the red team half-divecomp deathball
The Tychus could probably afk in the backline and never have to worry about dying. Drop a laser, do a little jig or three, casually pick up a megakill.

>>181723792
It's also battlefield of eternity so we'd be forced in to fights.

>Be in HL
>Play tank,support and specialist
>Win
>Play assassin
>Lose

What the fuck am I doing wrong?

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>>181723934
You would be amazed how poor matchups can you win in QM.

>>181724129
>not being an edgy kid who masters every assassin
yeah what's wrong with you?

>>181724297
Oh I don't doubt that.

But dismissing a guy for thinking realistically thinking the chances are slim is pretty unfair because you'd need some extreme differences in play quality and circumstance between the two teams to evoke a different outcome other than a loss for blue.

>>181723869
Buff women are QTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZwYadmgPw

>>181724880

Literally nothing about that woman is attractive to me. I like women that are actually feminine.

But hey, more power to you.

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>>181724951
What about Va?

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>>181725105

Why are you leaving out the D in her name? Anyway I find D.Va attractive even though her HOTS model is kinda ass.

She's cute, and I actually like her personality, gameplay wise she can go though, fucking annoying.

>>181725236
>Actually liking D "I see you're a fellow gamer" Va

>>181725324

Yup. She's funny to me.

>Have her annoucer pack
>Some shitter d/c's
>"HA Lagspike!"

Makes me smile everytime

How do I make Viking not aggro when I'm not controlling him? I hide Baelog behind wall but then he decides he wants to run in front of wall 1v3 while I'm cuntrolling Olaf or Erik

>>181725236
Nice jiggly personality there i see

>>181725443
Hide them in a bush or make them run circles with shift.

>>181725443
Get stealth for Erik, Olaf doesnt mind standing still and control Baelog the most

>>181725443
Instead of A-click, use M-click.

>>181725585
>get stealth for Erik
don't do this

Would this game be able to handle a hero like Invoker?

This event was such a huge waste. Only two skins is shit.

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>>181726854
Old one?

>>181726964

>Faggot skin
>Meme skin
>Dyke skin

I didn't care for a single one, there's no Valla or Li-Ming in a swimsuit, but I can have Tychus's fucking bulge on my screen every 20 or so minutes.

>>181727165
>not liking Tychus' bulge
what are you, some kind of faggot?

>>181727234

Haha! XD

upvote this raise awareness to faggot system

r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6leioo/highly_popular_russian_streamer_silenced_for/

>watch mewn
>massive amounts of salt while playing
>massive amounts of salt at chat after it's over
This is actually pretty entertaining

>>181728014
We lack the biggest asshole around though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDTqCd-O-d0

Why do I ALWAYS lose when I play a top tier hero? I went from 55% winrate to 48% by playing mainly Anub'arak and Malfurion without winning a single fucking game
I didn't die more than twice per games though, is the matchmaking just terrible?

>>181728191
>muh free wins cuz meta hero!

keep playing them and get better.

>>181728191
Probably not peeling/healing as well as other people when they play tanks/healers while you're on dps/specialist

either get gud or come to the realization that we can't all be flex players, anon. just give up and pick Genji every game

After some experimenting with Vice Admiral I came upon realisation that the hentai arm build is the best.

It goes like this:

3->3/4->2/3 (3 is more preferable, since the CDR on E is broken, but if you are getting fucked pick range, since its broken too) -> 2 (other ult has too high cd and deals almost 0 dmg) -> 1/2/3 (2 is much more preferable, since it gives you insane damage when they are low, 3 if they got too much cc and you have to move a lot and 1 if you tend to die with D on CD often, 4 is too unreliable) -> 1/3/4 (all of them are good) -> 3 (use it when they almost exit your E, also works well with 3 at level 13, shove upgrade is trash since you will almost never get the bonus CDR)

The W damage is too low and hitting it is too unreliable by itself, so I wouldn't recommend investing here (except for blind when necessary). Also talent 4 at level 7 sounds nice but is way too hard to get value from it, so I'd pick more reliable shit. Swipe ult may work out on small maps with many obstacles like that one with immortals, but usually the hentai hand is much better overall (especially because of CD and damage)

>nova
>classed as assassin
>does absolutely no damage

wew

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>Mfw I realize Super Sonya isn't legendary.

Crap like desert queen zagara and specter illidan making the cut makes me thing any actual good skin must be legendary too.

>>181729312
>ranged stealth assassin
>tries to duel people at melee range at 100% hp
>loses
wtf blizzard

>>181729312
>play her right
>take out 90% of a tank's life bars in .5 seconds

The problem with Nova isn't her damage. It's that other heroes do her job infinitely better. Usually by pairing damage with good waveclear. Nova can't clear waves with any efficiency unless you take explosive shot at 13. By then, you're usually past the laneing phase.

>play 3 games as specialist
>quest only registered one of the games

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>it's wednesday
>log in
>no ragnaros
>no medivh

Give me. Now.
What fucking time does this shit go live?
What timeline are they in?

Has there been any information on the rarity of the Krakenov and SkullXul skins?

>>181731153
Neither are in this week's rotation. Sorry bucko, guess you better learn how to play the lost vikings

>>181728191
because you suck at them

I suck ass at Malfurion because I just find him boring as shit and end up not paying attention. I'm better of playing Auriel, BW or Khaz because I'm actually interested in playing them.

I realized it's more important to have fun, sense I'm not an asian that wants to go MLG. When I embraced this and just started playing Stitches 90% of the time in ranked I went from silver to diamond in a week.

Just play heroes you like. "Role filling" makes you play heroes you don't play as much. Unless you are playing to form a 5 man autism strong team and go to the top, there is really no reason to play heroes you don't enjoy.

Unless you are going to lock in Nova/Hammer/Illidan first pick, then fuck off.

>>181731359
Both epic, Krakenov changes a lot of effects and the effects change with each color, Xul one changes nothing

>>181731549
>effects change with color

they said this wasnt possible when probius was released

https://twitter.com/zwHydra/status/882570002192322560

>>181723869
lowtest

>>181731869
>russian

good

>>181731991

She's a pair of tits away from looking like a man, "low test" is a meme stirred up by literal faggots on /fit/ tired of being mocked.

>>181731364

No, they're the weekly sale.
Their official fucking blog said so.

It's wednesday. Where are they?
WHERE?

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MORE TAUREN WHEN?

BAINE. CAIRNE. TAUREN SUPPORT (Spirit link ultimate for maximum cuhraaaaaaaaazy).

WHEN!!!!?!

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>181732963
>MORE TAUREN
>implying there is already one tauren in the roster
LUL
no one wants to be a cow

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>>181732973

>>181732459
link?

>>181733136

Open wide.

https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/17615403670

new player here
does blizz have a release order by franchise?
i just started playing two weeks ago so it was diablos turn. next hero to be released is from starcraft. will they be releasing a warcraft hero afterwards?

>>181733624
Nah its not set in stone.
Seeing Blizz is publishing Destiny 2 on Battlenet we might get some exclusive based on that too.

>>181733624
nah, they release heroes when they're ready/when they need to do a cross promotion. Like Stukov and Starcraft Remastered or D.Va and Nexus Challenge.

>>181733624

I think it's pretty much random. We had a glut of Overwatch heroes and now we seem to be getting stuff from other franchises because they realised that if we wanted to play a MOBA with Overwatch characters in it we would play Overwatch.

>>181733851

Or Malthiel and Necromancer in D3.

>>181733848
Pretty sure there was a dev post somewhere about no Destiny in HotS

>people actually think exp gained on abathur is somehow related to how well he is doing
When will this meme end? You can't body soak in all maps or in all situations thanks to your team being shit

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Which hero has the best trait?

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>>181734061
>FTL

>Trying to play Vikings against characters like Tracer/Samuro who can just kill the shit out of you anytime you try and soak or get a camp

pls stop. The vikings on the other team actually did better just sending all 3 in the bottom lane of BHB

Why is playing Butcher in QM so much fun?

>Probius
>7-1
>Almost most damage, only got over taken in the very end when I was focusing core
>Stupid 9-2 something gets the MVP

This game is stupid with it's "MVP" and stuff like that. If you do 2nd best in everything, you won't get MVP, nor will you even get a nomination.

>>181734061

For utility Johanna

>"Well, this hasn't worked out in my favour, time to remove all my negative debuffs get a shitton of armour and walk back to my fort."

For fun Ragnaros

>>181734339
because the enemy can't actively draft counters to him

>>181734010
>abathurs job is to provide support to a team without adding another body in a fight AND to contribute xp
Being half effective isn't acceptable for other heroes, it shouldn't be okay for Abathur either

>>181734318
>not getting stealth on Erik and placing him in bushes/etc because game is hot
>not using Olaf regen properly

I became a lot better at Illidan when I realized metamorphasis sucks ass and The Hunt is way better

>>181734061

Li Ming is up there.

>tfw chaining spell after spell after spell getting kill after kill after kill

Possibly the most fun thing in this game

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guess the hero

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Would a mana-healer support be good in this game?
Do other MOBAs have any support-like characters based on mana regeneration instead of healing?

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>>181734774
You have it in the filename fuckhead. You are literally this baka.

>>181733538
>read first post
>oh nice it's medivh, I can finally get him
>oh no the date is apr 5th
>see latest post
>same heroes

>>181734867
>falling for that shitty b8
is this b8?

>>181734912
Top post is constantly updated.

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>>181724129
i know that feel. i think its because assassins rely on tanks (to engage and peel) and healers (to let them be aggressive) to shine thus its harder to carry unless you are extremely good.

>>181734629
>can't go on lanes because they are constantly pushed
>only two lanes
>you are somehow supposed to get more exp
hurrdurr

>>181735027

At least it means I'm performing the more difficult roles well I guess

Will OW cancer ever be removed? Or will we all just have to quit the game?

>>181735397
Fuck off

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852963
anyone gotten anything yet?

>>181735454
nah

When will they make it a bannable offense to ask others to report someone?

>>181734396
The most offensive thing is when it gives out pity nominations. Like, good going Alarak you totally deserve that silencer award for hitting your Q 6 times in a 20 minute long game. Or back when Probius would get clutch healer every game.

what is body soak?

swag

>tass solo support against a team with 4 stuns

epic

>>181735861
when you soak your body with natural oils to give it that nice texture

>>181735861
you sit under tyrande and catch her juices in your mouth

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Zeratul spank time

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>>181735861

>>181735114
>i cant stand in minion wave
>ill go back to base and contribute no xp because xp not important!
There are other ways to get xp as Abathur other than becoming gankable shitbrains. Use your mines and Symbiotye to last hit and you get the xp. Learn to play the game fuckboy.

>>181735623
>Pick Arthas
>Play like shit
>Get the root award every single time for no reason

I started to play again with Zagara before was pretty bad because don't know about the lane push specialist build. this work much better for the my game style. Got top of siege dmg and XP contribution in every match.

>>181736439
Whats the anime?

>>181705301
u-uncensored link?

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>>181735861
Its like being underneath this.

>>181734061
leoric

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>>181735861

>>181736506
>atleast one friendly hero per lane
>all exp is already being gained
>WHY YOU NO GET IMAGINARY EXP
Fucking idiot

>>181736506
>symbiote to last hit

why do people keep saying this, it says right there on the symbiote it will gather xp if it's there

How do you justify Raynor having such low base hp?

>>181737537
Raynor is a drunken wreck, i bet he is sterile too from all the stimpack abuse

>>181737537
Range; Strong teamfighting power and good scaling. Also the reactive healing.

>>181737537
They never reverted the nerfs for some reason.

>>181712798
>the lizard in the end

Bruh

>>181737268
Killing the minions with Symbyote gives you control over what xp you get, so you can kill two or three one lane, pop over to another lane, kill some, repeat.

If Abathur is having trouble getting xp then he's just bad no exception or excuse.

>>181737707
The heal is a joke with how much burst there is in the game now, there's zero reason for him to be more fragile than Lunara

when are we getting a WARCRAFT THEMED MAP?

>>181738161
Maybe soon? Warcraft 15th anniversary up soon

>>181737935
If you position correctly and have a non-retard healer you are literally the safest and most consistent DPS in the game. You have a speed buff for your allies, you have a bit of self peel, you have a ton of crits and decent giant killer. Hyperion remains one of the best teamfighting ults in the game.

Play him with a lucio or a tassadar, or if you want to go full protect the carry, tass + auriel.

>>181738270
What does Raynor do another assassin doesn't do better?

>>181738161
Gravekeeper map with towers was AB but they changed it.

How do you lane vs Rexxar? is it worth ever targetting the bear

>>181738371
Safety and Consistency anon. *especially* if he hits 20 where he's swinging around that 7.8 range permanently; and he has that ridiculous scaling on seasoned marksman (which if you activate everything gives him about 3-4 seconds of 800+ DPS with giant killer, crits and 2 APS. You'll get 3 hits in on a valla as she attempts to close and kill her before she even has a chance vs you).

>>181738713
Depends on who you're playing as.
Generally in draft if I see Rexxar on a map like Braxis I'll take Zag, can just completely ignore Misha and kill Rexxar.
As Sonya, it's easier to burst down Misha and force him to retreat.

This of course depends on whether or not he went Husbandry too.

>>181734821

Not really because there are LOT of heroes in this that don't use mana. It's not like in DOTA where everybody is mana-dependant. It'd still be useful in certain situations, but not as a primary ability. If it was part of a supports multirole toolkit then sure.
Take Crystal Maiden or Keeper of the Light for instance, both of them have Mana regen abilities, but nobody picks that hero for that ability specifically, they pick those heroes because both of them hit like fucking freight trains in teamfights.

>>181738735
is there even such a thing as 7.8 range? does the game have 0.1 range precision

>>181737887
You are assuming a situation where your team isn't complete shit at the game. When all lanes are pushing your gates, there is no exp Abathur can get that someone else isn't already getting, except if everyone on one lane dies

Sure if you want to number pad you can constantly change your hat around to pad your exp gained number, but that exp is still being gained by someone else

>>181739470
>muh team
here we go again

>>181739470
me unga
team bunga

>>181739217
... You know that most ranged heroes start off with 5.5 range right?

And melee heroes have ranges between .75 (cant remember, may have been bumped up to 1) and 2.0 (kerrigan). Shorter 'range' heroes like zarya, and d.va have 3 or 3.5 range. Cassia starts out at 4 range IIRC, Tychus used to be 5.5 but was nerfed down to 4.5. Raynor Hammer and Nova all start at 6.5 range (hammer used to be 5.5 but everyone took the 20% range talent at level 1).

Yes, the game does make distinctions of range, even .1 differences. You've asked a question akin to "Is there even any difference between 1hp and 0hp? does the game track HP like that?" and the answer is yes, there is a fucking difference, I've gotten away from shit with less than 10 hp before because of in-combat regen (especially from regen master talents).

>>181739525
>implying the matchmaking is good enough to make balanced teams

>>181734061
Butcher

Probius feels like shit no matter what build I do with him. I wish they just give him longer range for pylons.

>>181734061
Stukov

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>>181738986
>nobody picks that hero for that ability specifically

>>181740306
He's one of the best heroes in the game. Stop judging hero power based on your F2P quick match experience.

>>181740482
>best heroes in the game
>zero uses at HGC MSB
okay

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>>181740619
Pros don't play the same game as us. Their meta is irrelevant to us average joes. Probius is situational but extremely powerful on the right maps. He's basically an infinite mana Li Ming and Sgt hammer combined.

>>181737098
Is he ok?

>>181740775
>Li Li equal/greater than Uther at Diamond/Master
Explain this

What is the most balanced hero? I mean who can be used as killin heroes, push line, siege, defend?

>>181741232
Ragnaros probably

>>181740775
>Pros don't play the same game as us
that's weird. I fought against scHwimpi the other day. In the same game as I had Snitch on my team, even.

>>181741402
What I mean is that when you have 10 actual pro players in the same game against each other all coordinated and practiced up it's different that solo queue Hero League.

>tfw learning illidan can't solotake the medic camp on hanamura in any kind of timely manner for the first time in ranked

probably should've tried that at least once in qm

>>181741195
She only gets picked when she's really good draftwise

>>181741535
I don't watch many professional games because I'd rather just play it myself but it's pretty true from what I saw back at blizzcon. A lot of people who aren't a fan of the game say that characters hit like a wet noodle and it takes forever to kill anyone, but when you have a coordinated team anyone that steps out of position for even a second gets blown up immediately.

>>181742014
Yeah, Tracer is seeing a lot of play (and success) at HGC and it's funny to watch just how fucking instantaneous teamfights can be for pro players. You can have these spats that last like 3 minutes of trading abilities and no one even gets close to dying because of how well the teams work together, and sometimes you have 2-4 heroes just instantly get deleted for one wrong move for the same reason.

>>181742360
I was pretty surprised when it came to Tracer because I always thought she was this super annoying shoot-em-up kinda character. Then in a pro game she's just some crazy 2k damage bomb that goes off in your face and vanishes before you can even react.