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>New assault (2CP) map: Horizon Lunar Colony is live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIsDXT8Xl8I

>Most recent developer update [PTR 1.13 Changes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkYJlPMdWNA

>Latest PC patch notes
PTR: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20861969
Live: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/game/patch-notes/pc

>Overwatch dev tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Hero tips, tricks, and basics
http://pastebin.com/Qf2AKa8R

>Source/Quake mouse sensitivity converter
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Personal stats / leaderboards
https://overbuff.com/
https://masteroverwatch.com

>eSports info and Contenders League
https://over.gg/
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
https://www.overwatchcontenders.com/

>Previous thread:
>>181655275
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>still playing Overwatch
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Post big girls.
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>>181683536
well what do you play
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nth for the /pol/posters are here because their families don't want them at 4th of July anyway
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As a lowly console faggot, how should I configure my aim settings?
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Lucio!
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>>181683592
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>>181683643
Jokes on you, my family died on their way here to have dinner a few hours ago.
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>>181683597
Right now I'm playing "Valkyrie Profile"
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>There will never good quality, badass, awesome, or lewd art of Zarya ever.
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>>181683723
>Ill just leave
Please do, this isn't your board.
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>>181683770
Yes, I'm sure that's the ruse they intended you to believe so they'd be free of you
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darn!
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>>181683895
>responding to b8

Anon, you are smarter than this.
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>>181683884
You mean other than the sfm of zarya futabanging D.Va?
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>>181683851
Is that Assassin I see?
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Have they ever given an official comment on if Pilot D.Va will ever get more emotes?

I want more D.Va love.
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>>181683884
Orangekisses does a lot.
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>>181684075
that looks terrible.
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Doomfist is white, WHITE
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>>181683851
>weebgarbage
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>>181684224
>complains about weeb games
>posts dead Nintendo man
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>>181684075
I need her to draw more Zarya. Probably do a commission some day.
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>>181684152
She's the only artist who draws lewd Zarya so you're out of luck there
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>>181683492
>>181682652
Mercy is so stupidly forgiving, it blows my mind that anyone could circle jerk about how "hard" it is to play her since you need such AMAZING positioning and awareness.

>Can do her job from behind cover, just poking out for less than half a second to reestablish her beam
>Or just hiding in a random room near the objective waiting to res
>If you manage to catch her out she can dash across the map with basically no cooldown
>Tiny fucking hitbox that gets completely distorted when she dashes
>Nearly instantly starts to regenerate her health if you miss a shot, have to reload, she gets behind someone/something, or gets shielded
>Even with all that, even if she fucks up so hard that you're actually going to kill her she can still panic and press Q, turning invincible/regenerating her health and getting at least SOME value out of her ult despite being a complete drooling retard

>>181682983
It will still be up by the next fight since despite being one of the most powerful/easiest to use ultimates in the game, it's also one of the fastest charging.

>>181683490
Good, Mercy shouldn't be viable at a high level. She is an introductory/girlfriend hero. Easy to play and be effective with and has a low skill ceiling. In a properly balanced game, a character like Mercy would start to fall off extremely hard at higher levels where she should begin to be outclassed by players who can better use high skill-ceiling heroes to their maximum potential.

Mercy is popular and sells skins though, so blizzard wants all the gurl gamers and fags that play her to get GM so they keep playing and giving them shekels.
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>>181683884
I like the one where futa Zarya fucks Widowmaker's brains out while she makes an ahegao.
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Man. I really want Soldier's ult to be merged. That shit's like a guaranteed two kills because my how strong it is
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>Classic Overwatch team is Tracer, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, Mercy, Jack (All white, 4/5 with blond hair too)
>Talon is Doomfist, Reaper, Sombra, Widow (Black, Blaxican, Latina, White person is blue and brainwashed)

hmmmmmm

Wasn't Overwatch in development for years? Did they Really never notice this, or think other people wouldn't notice?
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>>181685260
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>>181683884
(thou)
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>hack mercy
>hit her with a full clip of sombra's confetti smg
>she has less than a sliver of HP left
>melee her
>by the time the animation finishes, her HP regen has already kicked in and she's healed up enough to survive the melee
>hack wears off and she flies halfway across the map to safety
Why is this hero allowed to exist in this state?
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Amélie
>tfw waiting forever next dress up skin
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>>181685260
>>181684403
>>181684075
>>181684679

Those all look like shit, and outside of bad lewd art, there isn't even any cool or awesome looking zarya art.
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>>181685341
I noticed this but I figure there's been no backlash because Reaper and Sombra are just using Talon for their own needs and Widow had to be brainwashed into joining.

Also Ana and Gabe were part of the original team, Mercy came in later.
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>>181685341

Classic overwatch team is a swede, a swiss honey, a german, a britfag and 2 americans. Of course they'd be white. And one of the americans is brown anyway

>Talon is an african, a mexican, an american and a frenchie

the most evil of all countries
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>>181684507
>can't kill 200hp Mercy
>blizz plz nerf

Seriously, watch a top500 Mercy. I guarantee you don't play on the same level as Eevee_A or any other T500 Mercy.

Mercy doesn't sell skins; her best one was from halloween. She doesn't have the widely adored cosmetics as others have gotten.
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>>181685441
>fly to safety
>implying she won't solo rez for invincibility because dumb roastie cunts are stupid bitches
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>>181685483
It's as if Zarya is a badly-designed character who would have looked better with her original lion's mane hair.

Her only good skins are the ones that either cover her head or give her the blonde hair.
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>>181683739
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Mei!
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>>181685641
Is trash
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How would he play?
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>>181685476
its not going to be a legendary right?
because she got that shitty non bleu skin last time
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>>181685380
That's clearly not Zarya.
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>>181685757
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>>181685543
No one was dying because their Ana was actually healing people
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is mercy pure
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>>181686182
she is a pure slut
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>>181685341
Sombra isn't part of Overwatch.
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>>181686182
She devoted her life to helping injured in war zones and advancing medicine since her early teens. She hasn't had time to be a degenerate.
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I just hit level 70 should I start competitive now or wait?

I don't want to end up in bronze
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>>181686087
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tfw no sissy mercy gf(male)
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>>181686225
i want that helveti pucci
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>>181685341
>>181686249
Sombra isn't part of Talon*
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>>181686182
Lolno
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>>181686279
Yes, do comp.
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>>181686279
Play a different game
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>>181685786
E: Throws a spear that pierces through barriers
Shift: Short charge with knockback
R-Click: Holds up shield to protect himself. When Shielding into a Charge the knockback is increased.
Q: AoE where he plants a banner and anyone inside gains Shield and "morale" where Ult charge is increased by .5%.
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>>181686087
Painfully unfunny
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>>181685476
I want to BREED the bleu.
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>>181685341
>>Classic Overwatch team is Tracer, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, Mercy, Jack (All white, 4/5 with blond hair too)
>conveniently forgets Ana and Genji
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>>181686321
m8 if she works for talon it's the same damn thing she might be using them for her own goals but she's still killin' people for em
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Are they really going to release a hero after fucking up with Sombra and Orisa and creating two bottom tier heroes?
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>>181686601
Genji is Blackwatch dumbass, he literally has a Blackwatch skin you Ultra dumbass

>forgets Ana
Alright, 5/6 of the named Overwatch team is white, 4/6 are white and blond, sure showed me
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>>181686703
>Fucking up with Sombra
Heck, if you can't play a hero, or don't want to, just don't use it and stop bragging
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>>181686635
>but she's still killin' people for em
Which is ridiculous and totally contradicts her entire backstory, but nobody said Overwatch lore was coherent or decent so who knows.
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>>181686703
sombra is good though
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why is defense matrix able to shoot down energy projectiles
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What are some stereotypes main player names

Ex. Reaper: Pain, dread, Kill3r, DarkLuigi, Cummies
Mercy: Perfection, LittleGirl, MissXoXo, Princess, H34L5LUT
Bastion: TF2Guy, Fuck, MowEmDown
Genji: Naruto, Bleach, Goku, SSTrunks, Gr3YF0X, Raiden
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>>181685341
>all the different european races just count as "all white"
okay
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>>181686790
>Blackwatch wasn't part of Overwatch
By the way faggot, the classic team was Jack, Gabriel, Ana, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, and Liao.

McCree, Mercy, and Genji came after.
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>>181686790
How is blackwatch not included in the OG Overwatch team
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Are all men from LA fucbois?
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>>181686934
every race in africa counts as black

you know how many countries are lumped under Asian?
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>>181687035
It will always bother me that gays are reduced to stereotypes like this but it's wrong to point it out.
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>>181687035
Because only fuckboys live in LA everybody knows that.
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>>181686087
>mandatory australian joke
okay, it caught me
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>>181687065
did i lump them together?
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>>181687065
>every race in africa counts as black
Northern Africa counts as white though.
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>>181686841
>>181686797

Her ultimate is good, the hero itself is complete trash sorry anons.
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>>181687113
t. Texas fuckboi
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>>181685536
>watch a top500 Mercy. I guarantee you don't play on the same level as Eevee_A or any other T500 Mercy.
>clips DOT twitch DOT tv SLASH FunnyKathishTrianglePartyTime
>clips DOT twitch DOT tv SLASH SweetEagerNostrilDendiFace
>clips DOT twitch DOT tv SLASH HelpfulDiligentPlumUnSane
>clips DOT twitch DOT tv SLASH TastyEncouragingNostrilHumbleLife

Eeveea is one of the few Mercy mains I have the slightest amount of respect for. He actually understands the game very well and uses the excess mental energy he has from not having to do anything mechanically intensive to make callouts/shotcall for the team. He also played the character at that level before she became the ridiculously forgiving crutch hero with broken SR gains that she is today.

The vast majority of Mercy mains in GM are completely fucking braindead and spent hundreds of hours in Diamond, Plat, or even Gold with basically no improvement until they all shot up to GM season 4/5. Every time I get one on my team I know I'm in for a shitty game and getting 2 is basically a guaranteed loss.
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>>181686919
I literally played with a Mercy main named Perfection today what the fuck
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>>181686995
>Blackwatch wasn't part of Overwatch

No, it wasn't. That's why it's called Blackwatch and why there was a power schism between them, faglord.

>By the way faggot, the classic team was Jack, Gabriel, Ana, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, and Liao.

Liao is dead in the water, and hasn't been confirmed to even exist in the rewritten lore yet. Gabriel is not Overwatch, he's the commander of Blackwatch, which is what he was so fucking salty about. Classic Overwatch was in reference to Overwatch fully established under Jack's command, not the group in the Omnic crisis.

If you're going with Omnic, it's Gabe, Jack, Ana, Torb, Reinhardt.

Post-Blackwatch OW is Jack, Ana, Torb, Mercy, Tracer, Reinhardt

>>181687009
Because Blackwatch was considered the 'seedier' version of Overwatch anyway that did all the spying and murdering shit that wasn't good for OW's public image

And of course, Blackwatch as we know consists of a former yakuza heir, a honestly-he's-probably-part-Mexican cowboy, and definitely-mexican gabe
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>>181687227
It's always fun to go into comp and see the enemy team has a Sombra. She's the easiest to kill unless she's dancing on a medkit.

Call 'em a thrower and the whole team starts fighting about it and tilting.
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>>181687105
He's making fun of the stereotype, which is all over the place in LA btw
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>>181687242
Heck off, Imma Europoor
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>>181687409
Blackwatch is the covert ops division of Overwatch, it's not a separate entity, it's an entity within Overwatch
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>>181687227
i'd like to see you beat a sombra on anubis desu
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>>181687227
except she isnt, watch codey play
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>>181687509
It is the negatively portrayed subsection of Overwatch, responsible (somehow) for Overwatch's downfall and destruction. It only has three characters, but none of them are white either. McCree's debateable, but his casual use of Spanish in the comic and the fact he lives in Arizona makes it likely he's mixed with Mexican blood
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>>181687227
She does low damage by design, because she goes completely invisible and can teleport. She can take the role of support by hacking all the health packs.

She's fantastic for hacking tanks and EMPs which is the foundation for stopping enemy pushes, and pushing your own team to taking the objective.

She's fantastic with a semi-coordinated team, but garbage for 80% of the players because they refuse to coordinate and play with the team.
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>>181687227
Sombra is one of the most useful heroes to have on a team, just because you can't reach the skill floor doesn't mean she's bad
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Reminder that if you dont use Cruiser D.va today you are a terrorist
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>>181685536

Are you seriously using top 500 players as your benchmark? Yes, a top 500 Mercy has fantastic aim and is engaged and all that. But guess what, most Mercy mains aren't on that level. Most Mercy mains are in fact fucking terrible because they play a hero who requires ZERO mechanical skills or investment. She literally does not even have to move on her own.

And up until the top 500, high level Mercy mains are indistinguishable from low level ones. This isn't like Soldier where you can tell their skill level by their accuracy and awareness and ability to use his kit flexibly. A Bronze Mercy, a Gold Mercy, and a Diamond Mercy all play identically. They stand behind their team holding down one of two beams and press LShift if someone manages to get at them. Literally only dumb fucking Mercy mains think this isn't true. Anyone else with two eyes knows it is.

I can't believe there are people out there who seriously attempt to even defend this hero as requiring skill to play.
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>>181687227
She's only trash if you arent on a esports level competitive team. Otherwise she's great.
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>>181687816
>cruiser D.VA
>not AMERICA FUCK YEAH jack

d.va doesn't even live here
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>>181688132
>not AmeriCree

Faggots
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>>181687872
>I can't believe there are people out there who seriously attempt to even defend this hero as requiring skill to play.
Majority of the heroes don't require skill to play.
It's the driving force behind their casual pick up and play design philosophy. It's a party game.
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>>181688180

Yes, and Mercy requires the least skill of them all, by a huge margin.
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>>181688178
not everyone played during summer games, blame blizzard for not dropping it again yet

also

>playing 46% win rate mccree
>inb4 mccree defense squad not realizing I'm agreeing with them that he needs a buff
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>>181687872
>Yes, a top 500 Mercy has fantastic aim
>a hero who requires ZERO mechanical skills
You mean like aim? What are you trying to say here? T500 Mercys can aim well but Mercy doesn't require aim???

After watching silver through diamond mercys on twitch (because bored) there is a modest difference. Some Mercys don't even scan around for enemies and team mates. Some Mercy's pull out their pistol for whatever reason. Even on the OW forums diamond players talk about shooting over damage boost because it does more damage and charges ult faster.

Basically your point is there are morons at all level of the game. Thats true for all heroes. Rein mains, S76 mains, Anas, whatever. The point is just about everyone who talks shit about mercy and thinks she simply presses shift and locks on with heals from around the corner just doesn't play her and their only impression is from the mediocre to poor Mercys.

A Mercy who does well is foregettable because DPS is up and killing. She's hidden when she does well.
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>>181687661
You have to have a brain the size of a /v/ user to make posts these retarded
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>>181688261
Winston requires no aim, huge health pool, shield, and high mobility. Tell us about the low skill tanks now. We can move onto symmetra later too!
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>>181687409
>>181687661
>a peace keeping force using covert ops isn't going to be looked at negatively
>all covert ops aren't portrayed negatively because of how they operate
Really, son?

>Post-Blackwatch OW is Jack, Ana, Torb, Mercy, Tracer, Reinhardt
Post Blackwatch, in other words, now, is Torbjorn, Winston, McCree, Mercy, Tracer, Genji, and Reinhardt.
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>>181688394
>T500 Mercys can aim well but Mercy doesn't require aim???

Do you think Mercy requires aim?

>>181688521

Winston's jump has a significant cooldown, so he has to engage and win the engagement or he has no escape. He cannot just throw it out. In order to use the jump properly you also have to aim the jump. There is also butt-jumping, a basic technique to decrease Winston's risk during the jump that adds another layer of mastery. Winston's shield lasts 3 seconds and has a long cooldown. Not to mention that as a tank, Winston is automatically among the most engaged characters.

What cooldowns does Mercy have to manage? The 2 second Guardian Angel CD?
Does Mercy need to even shoot her gun?
Is Mercy on the frontlines?
Does Winston's health start furiously regenerating after 1 second, like Mercy's?

Fuck off with your bullshit equivalencies.
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>>181688268
I played during summer games and americree was the only skin I actually wanted. I got like 100 levels and opened literally every other skin in the fucking event except for americree and I couldn't just unlock it with coins.

>>181688394
Currently climbing from 3k to GM playing mercy and sitting at 3450. About to start my games for tonight and will most likely hit masters before the end of it, she's braindead fucking easy, gains a fuck ton of SR for doing basically nothing, and literally anyone can hit GM playing her. Doesn't mean they're good at the game or even good at Mercy, just means the system is fucking trash.
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Is it generally better for my team if I retreat on low health, or should I find cover and try to stay on the front line?
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>>181688820
Retreat and go to the nearest healer or health pack before re-engaging.
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>>181688790
>Mercy climbing with negative winrate
>While Lucio is punished for self healing

Why is this allowed?
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>>181688535
>a peace keeping force using covert ops isn't going to be looked at negatively
>all covert ops aren't portrayed negatively because of how they operate
>Really, son?

Blackwatch's internal civil war caused the destruction and outlaw of their parent organization you triple faggot. They were even suspended in Uprising and had led to Overwatch being banned from operating in London because of bad publicity

>Post Blackwatch, in other words, now, is Torbjorn, Winston, McCree, Mercy, Tracer, Genji, and Reinhardt.

What? Do you mean Recall, like the present? Because so far, NO ONE is currently "Overwatch" besides Winston and Tracer. It's not stated whether anyone else has answered the call, Genji just did an ominous 'you may be needed' to Hanzo

>>181688415
Funny, I was thinking that about you and your weak retort
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>>181688925
Thank you, friend.
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>people scream at me for picking zenyatta instead of mercy or ana
>getting picks left and right while keeping people healed
>our killfeed literally stops moving when im dead
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I did it bois. Thinking of getting gold orbs for Zen with these points as well.
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>>181688730
Literally every time I've seen a fucking mercy lock in winston because "they don't need to aim to play him" I know that the game is lost.

They never know how to engage since mercy is basically completely reactive as a character, can't actually land their jumps, don't know when to use his bubble, and just feed super fucking hard.
>>181688952
Clearly I'm actually way better than mercy players at my rank and I'm just being held back by my trash teammates :^)
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Oh look, it's a "that one autistic fuck that lurks all day crying about Mercy" episode
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>>181688820
That depends entirely on your hero, whether you're on attack or defense, and whether it's in overtime or not.
If it's in overtime, die on the point, I don't care who you are, how much health you have, die on the fucking point. Zenyatta with 7 HP left? Get on the fucking payload and jump around like a retard for as long as you can. People who back off of the objective during overtime deserve to be banned.
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>Winning and playing good
>Teammates on mic start tilting and raging
>Start throwing
>Switch to genji and just jump around throwing shit and doing nothing for the rest o the game
>-12
smfh
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>>181689537
You're hated by more than one person fotm shitter
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>>181689243
>solo healing as Zenyatta
>im gold elims despite there being 3 dps and 2 tanks
>team gets pissed because lack of heals despite them all instalocking and me solo healing
>someone gets fed up calls me a shit healer for getting kills and locks in mercy
>first thing he does is pull out pistol and shoots and kills someone and starts screaming in mic "SEE ITS NOT THAT FUCKING AMAZING THAT A HEALER CAN GET KILLS NOW ACTUALLY FUCKING HEAL INSTEAD OF FIGHTING YOU RETARD"

Wew summer sure has amplified the retardation of people i meet in comp.
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>>181689243
Your playing at a shitter tier rank and getting picks bc of it
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mercy is easy top 500
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>>181689537
>mercy is useless and contibutes nothing to the team
>plz nerf her

Really rattles my brain compartments and departments.
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>>181689537
>mercyposter calling someone else autistic
shiggy mcdiggy
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>>181689676
>fotm

Been playing Mercy since launch even when she was shit. I am sure enjoying being rewarded for my persistence :)
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>>181689583
>its overtime
>scream on mic for mercy to rez
>she flys in and dies instead
>"i didnt want to waste my rez we might have needed it"
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>>181689724
Wtf, who pissed in his cereal?
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>>181689827
whats your rank
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>>181685476
Two months until the statue is shipped
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>>181685441
>clip
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>>181689725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4hwxTCxXq4

its like this at all ranks
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>>181689726
Someone who spends that many hours playing Mercy truly must be braindead. RIP
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>>181689371
I'm not complaining about my place in diamond, but the SR system is broken.
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> However, after recent events in Numbani, it can now be confirmed that what occurred was an attack by the Talon organization with the express purpose of freeing one man
>Man
>Doomfist isn't an omnic (despite his name on the poster being in omnic) violent towards humans to help the player have an in-universe perspective on how omnics can be dangerous despite all 3 omnics already in game being the most "good" out of all the characters to help blur the lines between good and evil
>Nope he's just some guy
Well at least he's a guy to quell all those guys whining about no post-release men
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>>181690013
>>181689371
>>181688952
Reminder that they guy trying desperately to win and playing meta heroes/switching heroes to adapt to game and team comp will end up losing more SR than the retard who instalocked his onetrick and refused to adapt
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What it is that makes people so angry in this game?

Or is it a combination of things?
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>>181690221
They are angry about losing and are constantly losing. They find winning in this video game as the only form of validation for their worthless lives.
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>>181690160
>switching heroes to adapt to game and team comp
what's funny is that this is what blizzard wanted overwatch to be
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>>181689010
>Blackwatch's internal civil war caused the destruction and outlaw of their parent organization
>parent organization
>previously says Blackwatch wasn't part of Overwatch
Ayy...
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>>181690385
yes the why the fuck do i want to turn a 10 sr loss into a 30 sr loss since this game fucking punishes you for trying to wrangle the tards you get matched with
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>>181690221
They take the game too seriously then blame their teammates for their own mistakes. Instead of thinking "I should have been in cover" when they are killed, they think "if my teammates weren't using Sombra they could have backed me up. Fucking Sombra noobs! He's throwing!"
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>>181690530
>>181690385
>dies nowhere near the payload
>"OMFG SHIT HEALER FUCKING UNINSTALL"
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>>181690384
Perfect response
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>>181689010
So basically, you just admitted that Blackwatch was part of Overwatch.

>What? Do you mean Recall, like the present? Because so far, NO ONE is currently "Overwatch" besides Winston and Tracer. It's not stated whether anyone else has answered the call, Genji just did an ominous 'you may be needed' to Hanzo

You said post-Blackwatch, because of you meant Uprising, Ana and Gabriel were still commanding the task force, meaning you'd still be wrong.
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>>181685341
you are literally the same person coming to this thread every time posting this
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>>181689932
theres no way thats real
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>>181685341
Don't forget McCree. I mean, sure, he was technically Blackwatch first. But still.
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>>181690916
filtered
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>>181689726
>>181689939
>>181690013
>>181690160
>>181688952
it's worth mentioning that Mercys in Grandmaster actually have higher winrates on average and that Mercy mains actually don't have the extremely boosted sr gains people have been memeing about. You should also know that Mercy is the most picked hero in Overwatch by a huge margin, you are bound to run into some with lower winrates because you are incredibly likely to run into a Mercy main in the first place

this guy looked at the numbers, you can see it for yourselves: https://twitter.com/omnicmeta/status/878310837378727937
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>>181690963
so either way mercy takes no thinking
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>>181691096
I'm not arguing against that, I think her kit should be reworked so actual skill makes more of an impact
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>>181688730
this.

People need to fuck off with defending Mercy mains that's can't do anything better than hold M1
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>DC for 5 seconds cause of psn
>Come back and lose
>-60, despite previously having over 10000 heal points.
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>>181690963
>Mercy mains don't have the extremely boosted sr gains people have been memeing about

Except they fucking do, I've been CLIMBING with a 45% winrate and I'm about to hit fucking masters.
>>181688790

The ones with high winrates typically duo queue with DPS players.
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When is the Loot Box/Highlight update going to go live?
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>>181686279
lol don't play comp until you're competent with two heroes from preferably different categories.

this is a game where everyone thinks they're good so I can't speak on your "competence". ive seen level 500s in silver.
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reminder to become a mercy main for easy gm/top 500
just get that sick 5 man rez every time
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>71 elims
>68% accuracy
>20K+ damage
>Team still can't push while I'm taking out the other team

I wish I had friends to play with, I'd at least enjoy losing than wondering what the hell my team mates are doing.
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REMINDER THAT GENJI LOVES TO LICK MCCREES DIRTY BUNGHOLE CLEAN
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>>181691527
post your profile
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>Mercy gets a card for 3.5k healing, 12% of team damage taken
>Gets voted epic almost instantly
?
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>>181691474
>being good at multiple heroes when you can one-trick mercy to top 500
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>it's a faggot using KGB& more on console
I seriously hope we can report this when the supposed reporting system comes over because this is legitimately cheating
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>>181691797
Sounds like that must've been an awfully quick match
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>>181690221
in this game its easy for one persons fuck up to cost you a game or a chance, I honestly think if the game was balanced better and solo carrying was possible that wouldnt be a problem
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>>181691832
with what character? Widow?
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>>181691932
Yeah, up to diamond it's more about which team has the better carry, but once you get to higher ranks it starts to be about which team has the worse weakest link.
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>tank asks why they have all gold medals
>while doing literally zero tanking
>swap support to tank in third round
>"gold medal" tank goes Hanzo
>ask if we can get a second healer
>healer swaps to Torbjorn
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>>181691645
https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Hound-12470
I usually prefer to play Rein
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>>181691932
>its easy for one persons fuck up to cost you a game or a chance

So, if skill rating was rewarded/taken away based on your own personal stats and not if you win/lose?

Like in placement matches? Wouldn't that just fix the problem if they used the personal skill metric instead?
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What four Mei voice lines should I go with? They're all too good. So far I've got

>A-Mei-zing
>Yay!
>I was only trying to help
>Ouch! Are you okay?
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>>181689537
t. assblasted mercy main
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>>181692082
>I'm a TANK and i have GOLD MEDAL WTF
>Lets flankers constantly flank the backline of healers and dps
>Mccree is off somewhere, in a far away land

>why dont dead dps have dps medals?????
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>>181689537
>Mercy mains
The jokes write themselves
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>>181689827
try aiming for once, xoxo_girl_gone_gamer_98
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>>181692082
>play reinhardt
>recklessly charge in and tag everyone with my hammer before promptly dying
>leave everyone else to clean up my mess
>"gold elims hello???"
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>>181691886
It wasn't. It was a 2cp, we were the defending team, the game was about 12 minutes long. 3.5k healing in 12 fucking minutes, and she gets 5 votes.
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>>181692442
>>181692330
>>181692231
>autistic shrieking intensifies.jpg
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>>181690789
>>181689725
>>181689243
>>181689724
as a zenyatta / zarya main, i can fucking CONFIRM this shit. there is nothing more infuriating and satisfying as solo healing as zen and still managing to be a beter killer than my DPS.

>Gold medals in literally everything
Calling my DPS useless feels good.
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>>181691526
I'd rather have fun while playing
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>>181691832
What is kgb?
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>>181692167
Zhège shìjiè zhídé wǒmen fènzhàn!
Spam the shit out of it and piss everyone off.
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>>181692150
I think based on personal skill is better, I just dont know how you would do it
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>be silver
>5 dps, zen solo heal
>"zen can you go mercy??"
I hate this game. When does it get fun?
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>>181691825
wish this wasn't true. this game will literally punish ypu for not one tricking a shitter like mercy
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>>181692771
Maybe the reason you're gold elims is because you're solohealing as zenyatta and everyone else is dying.
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>>181692859
Tell them when they decide to pick a fucking tank you'll think about it and don't switch anyway. you can pump out 18 grand or more healing with zen if you really try
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>>181693335
maybe you're an angry cuck lol
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>Reinhardt
>Team is garbage
>Mercy hugs s76 dick and no one else
>Other team picked good heros and has perfect team play and positioning
>Wipe us all the time
>Win because they didnt pick mercy
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>>181692859
When you mute communications entirely and just focus on doing your job. Listening to shitters screech and whine for their own failures and pass them onto you is never going to help your performance.
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>>181693335
Maybe you just fucking suck and should stop over extending.
Stop fucking relying on rez crutch and fucking play.
The biggest problem in this game is DPS that thinks they are hot shit and do nothing
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I'm a console player that mains zen, 500 hours. I quit playing the ps4 1 week ago and made the full switch to the PC, PC players actually try. you console healers need to get off the console and go where there's a little more respect
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>>181692751
>>181689537
>>181689827
Mercy mains are the biggest joke in this game.
>300 hours as one fucking hero, less than 2 on everyone else
>Have literally no mechanical skill
>Shit up every comp if they don't get their HOLD M1 hero

The best part is, they're smug and have egos, despite being quite literally the worst players in this game. They have nothing to offer and actually think they should be thanked for healing, which is literally their job.

Imagine only playing the easiest hero in the game for hours on end and condescending to people who are actually much better than you.

Remember healsluts, there is very little difference between a Plat Mercy and a GM Mercy, but there is a huge difference between a Plat Genji and GM Genji.

Your hero sees more value on Pornhub than shw does in-game.
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>>181692635
>play D.Va
>never used DM

>play Winston
>dive in and trade repeatedly

>play Zarya
>use projected barrier only to increase charge

>play Roadhog
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Is there a mirror of the doomfist article anywhere? Whenever I visit the overwatch site it says the page cannot be found
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>>181693720
Lmao nice try mustard race.
>>181689932
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>>181693727
>play Roadhog
>die
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>>181693725
Just KYS you garbage fuck.
Spam you need healing some more while I watch you die and skp you with harmony
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>>181691832
>playing without a handicap is cheating

anyone can use a MKB converter, if you think it makes you better than get one for yourself
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>it's the friendly mccree keeps trying to outsnipe widowmaker episode
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>>181693832
That's going to happen regardless when you play with children, notice too who it is complaining, the fucking DPS like always
>>181693883
This is the other reason you should get off the consoles
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>>181693907
>he actually does
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>>181693992
It literally never happens unless the widow is absolute dogshit, she can slowly double bodyshot you faster than you can possibly tripple headshot her. I don't know why they always fucking try.

Plus most of the time the enemy has a widow it's when they're attacking, so they're risking like 15 seconds and the mccree is risking the point.
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>>181693990
Nah that's typical PC community Overwatch. I hear about how terrible it is all the time, my Bone matches are far more pleasant than the horror stories constantly presented here.
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>>181693907
>it's the enemy widowmaker thinks she can outsnipe me and gets repeatedly teabagged episode
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>>181694219
Nobody good plays on the bone.
I have my PC, ps4 and xb1, the xb1 is collecting dust
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>>181693725
mercy mains actually BTFO
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>>181693759
does anybody else have this problem? please respond
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>>181694297
i've actually heard that the ps4 playerbase is way worse than xbo

i think it's because the ps4 has a much larger install base and thus more kids, casuals, and other various pain in the asses
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>>181694272
I'd buy that sweater if it was real to be honest
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>>181694218
the maps aren't that open or wide apart in most stages, the only way I see widow winning is like McCree peeking first point hollywood or something
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>>181694297
I'd take decent play with non cancerous team mates any day. Like this game is super hardcore esports level difficulty and rewarding to play anyway.
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>get 4 support mains on my team
Why the fuck does this keep happening to me? 2 of them have to go DPS and they can't hit the broad side of a dick and we just get steamrolled.
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>>181694405
the ps4 player base is using xim4 and it's obvious
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I swear I'm just tired to stay on Gold even when I tryhard I just can't get my shit right

In this game unless you're a girl you hardly find people that can help you out climb

Best I can do is actually ask to some friends of mine if she could play OW 'till I reach diamond just to find some beta guy that could boost my account up
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>>181694436
Because you're a cuck, stop being a cuck and select DPS yourself.
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>>181694429
Switch to the PC, there's actually a team that forms if you play quickplay instead of ego'd out damage retards
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>>181693720
I play on both and thats a lie, people on console treat healers way more nicer than on PC could also be cause there is less communication
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>>181694523
>being a tank is being a cuck
I don't think so, bud. Why don't you go beg your supports for healing, little DPS baby?
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>>181694448
who needs people to climb.
I play Soldier and Zarya and climb put by myself. If ypu want a job done right, you gotta do it yourself. I love Zenyatta but I instalock DPS if I can because there's no way I'm letting some shitter with a laptop trackpad go DPS
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>>181694545
>there's actually a team that forms if you play quickplay
Anon please.

And honestly i get matches every now and then like that anyway.
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>>181685441
Playing sombra is hell. Her spread makes you miss targets like mercy and widow even if you're hugging them although these 2 belong to your main targets.

They need to do one of the following:
>short damage boost after leaving invis
>extra damage for hitting a players back
>extra damage to hacked/EMPd targets + hacking/shooting starts while still invis
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>>181694563
no they do not, they treat zens like absolute shit, you fuckers can get fucked. "Can you switch to mercy" "I don't know why this guy is so keen on playing zen" You shitheads should heal if you think you're so fucking hot
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>>181694659
Your mistake is thinking Zen is a main healer.
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>>181694613
lol
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>>181694436
see >>181694597
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>>181694606
Console DPS is garbage, end of story.
I've been from gold to diamond on the ps4, the DPS is the problem and xim4 fucksticks
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>>181693454
Muted voice, muted chat, instalocked Genji

It's actually pretty good
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>>181694726
Your mistake is thinking he can't pump out just as much healing if not more than mercy, you DPS tank only fuck
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>>181692728
How. Like. HOW?
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>>181694785
And i should care why? If it's all evened out then it's not like it matters how good or bad they are.
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>>181694659
Ive literally never seen Zen players get shit on either platform the only one Ive seen for console is probably sometimes Lucio do to unneeded speed boost or trying to be Stanky.
However it could be that people try to play Zen as main solo healer which is bad anyway
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>>181693725
Jesus fucking christ man, does Mercy upset people to this degree?

I mean I hate her, but damn.
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>>181695164
He sucks at the game and blames the healers, like every fucking garbage piece of shit
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i keep seeing videos where instead of the kill feed, the player has a list of allied and enemy heroes at the top with their health and ult charge across the top of the screen, but googling this gives me nothing

is it a mod or a UI setting i'm too stupid to know about?
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>>181695164
People are only mad because her invulnerability buff made it easier for people who main her to climb even when they do a shitty job.

Before the buff EVERYONE was saying she needed one. Now this one will inevitably be taken away and by the new year we'll be back to "but Mercy needs a buff".
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>>181695069
If you can dish out 10 grand in healing and have rapid discord you can solo heal, you guys are stupid, I do it all the fucking time
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>>181695214
Nah, he's still right, despite how upset he is

Mercy mains can talk a long walk off a short bridge.
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>>181694576
>76
It's a sign, stop playing tank and play Soldier 76. If you want it done right do it yourself.
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>>181686087
>overwatch cinematic/storyboard in a nutshell
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>>181686087
Ty for the birthday present anon i was looking for this image for ages
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>>181695214
>He sucks at the game and blames healers

You're dumb, my second most played is literally Zenyatta and fifth/sixth is Lucio. Not to mention I have over 40 hours on Zen.

You really think I don't like healers because I hate Mercy shitters who literally have no skill?
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>>181695023
She pocketed the tank(winston or d.va, can't remember), only activated her healing stream after they had taken damage, had the reaction times of an 80 year old woman drugged up on weed and opiates to counter the pain of her crippling osteoporosis, literally never healed anyone else, only used guardian angel to jump into the fight and follow the tank, and didn't know how to turn around so any time the tank had to back up she died.
Luckily I was playing Symmetra so 90% of my health was shields and the remaining 10% was easily healed by the various health packs around the point. We won, but holy shit was it a struggle.
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how about we turn mercy's healing beam into a aimed zarya-esque healing laser
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>>181695583
I have 500 hours as zen with a close follow up with Mercy, do not talk shit about your healers, I have rapid discord on my main and my smurf. I am tired of being under appreciated
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>>181695286
Mercy needed a buff but NOT to her ultimate. She needs a gigantic game changing buff to her fucking damage boost and huge nerfs to res and guardian angel.
She needs to be rebalanced so she's not an immortal walking ult.
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>>181695695
>mercy
>immortal

lol git fucking gud scrub
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>>181695695
She's easy to kill though?
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>>181695695
>He can't kill mercy
You're just garbage kid
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>>181695782
>30 yard dash on 2 second cooldown
>can LITERALLY make herself immortal by pressing Q
I know YOU die all the time and think Mercy is difficult, but just because you're unimaginably bad doesn't mean killing Mercy is easy.
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>>181683492
Who /xbox/ here?
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>>181695695
The only good suggested nerf to res that I've seen is she can't do it through walls/floors anymore.
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Don't boost kids
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>>181695882
She needs the LoS restriction, the invuln taken away and the charge required doubled at least. That'll clear up enough strength in her kit that the rest of it doesn't need to be total garbage. It'll also keep her from deciding the pace of the entire game based on when she presses Q.
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>>181695976
What site?
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>>181695976
They have truly fallen
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WHO'S IDEA WAS THIS?????

WHY IS THIS PERSON IN MY GAME?????
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>>181695996
Overbuff
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>>181695976
>fallenangel
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>>181694576
The irony is that tanks beg for healing

>>181695598
Do you know how many Mercy mains would quit?
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I NEED DECENT TRACKING

breh, Mercy mains literally quit Lucio after the rework because he wasn't as passive anymore
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>>181695860
Her "dash" is very predictable and her only chance to avoid imminent death
Using res to save yourself is not always the best option either.

>reaper avatar
Yeah I can see why you have trouble killing from the distance. She's easy prey for tracer, genji, hog, 76 etc though.
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>>181696181
It's a reaction image not an avatar, dumb fuck.
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>>181696042
What if this person actually got better with time? Or found a group to play with?
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Give Zarya 100 energy after two bubbles again, revert roadhog, make Rein walk at full speed with his shield up, and make Orisa a hitscan, give ana's nano a speed boost like before

will this make every non-dps good?

>>181695976
>fallenangel
perfect
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>>181693725
>shouldn't be laughing like I am

>>181696042
>gold fucking frame
>took 5 seasons to reach Diamond
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>>181695695
>>181695782
>>181695860
making her self-heal take a bit longer to activate would fix this, i think

she's not hard to damage, but hard to finish off because if you miss one too many shots and have to reload she's already back at full health and flew 30 meters away
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>>181696042
i dont see anything wrong with this image. The person got better overtime.
Now if he was like silver season 2 then Master+ season 5 then yes id say theres a problem.
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Reminder that this is probably the Mercy defender ITT.
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Only shitters have trouble with Mercy, and the incessant whining about her indicates there being some struggle against her by shitters here
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>>181696253
So? Doesn't change anything I said.

>you're bad
>dumb fuck

You should probably try to calm down if you are looking for a discussion.
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>>181695976
>Played everyday
>Hasn't played ever since boost punishment
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>>181685575
The fact that HotS got better Zarya skins than OW tells you how shit the OW art team can be.
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>>181696423
t. Healslut
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>>181696368
>>181696423
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>>181696423
This is true.
>>
I WANT A REINHARDT TITTYPAD
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>>181696423
>GM players are now shitters
dont forget them too since they hate playing with Mercy mains with tunnel vision and always die to dive comp
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>>181696368
>2nd most played Dva

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>181695976
>fallenangel
T O P K E K
O
P

K
E
K
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>>181696323
>>181696361
She spent 150 hours in silver with literally no improvement until they buffed mercy/gave her crazy SR gains and she shot up to plat in a single season, now she's almost master and being put into games with GM players. I get a player like this almost every other game and it's fucking ridiculous. They aren't even good at the one fucking hero they play, this game is a joke.
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>>181696425
I know, I'm not the guy that posted the reaper image. I'm just calling you a dumb fuck for calling it an avatar, dumb fuck.
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You should know by now how Mercy players operate, but you are bad. It is not hard to prevent her from making big rezzes. You are just shit and cannot play DPS/Winston at a level where the Mercy cannot function. It's very easy to make a Mercy's life hell but you instead fail and lash out. It's trash players that need to be babbied like many of you itt that make me unironically miss 1shot Roadhog right now.
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>>181697018

see

>>181696368
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>>181697018
This is honestly how I feel, healers get blamed when it's the fucking toxic DPS sucking dick.
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>>181697018
Eevee please leave this thread
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>>181697018
Are you trying to falseflag, ms. Mercymain?
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>>181696181
>Using res to save yourself is not always the best option either.
But these are mercy main's we're talking about, they don't care about the best option, they likely don't even have the game knowledge to know what the best option is.
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>>181685786
He has shit health for a tank, but his re spawn time is half the normal.
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>>181697178
>>181697151
>>181697172
I main 76 and Zen you goofs, stop trying to deflect. My post was 100% accurate. You're all babies who want zero adversity in this game, if a hero frustrates you in the slightest it's torches and pitchforks for nerfs. At least a half dozen classes other than Mercy are bitched about and wanted gutted in this thread and others every day, and it's a scrub behind every post
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>>181697018
Honestly if any of these DPS babies actually tried playing Mercy they'd realize everything they're saying is gross and incorrect
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>>181697496
I am playing mercy, I posted my stats in this thread earlier and I'm on the border of masters playing her.
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You people do remember when Mercy wasn't invincible during her ultimate and was rarely used because she died so quickly and easily, right? And most of you were complaining about that. Now you're complaining about her being able to pull off her ultimate. Which is it, guys? Or do you want Blizzard to make it so that Mercy's only invincible when you're playing her?
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*blocks your path*
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>play DPS
>tanks blame me for everything
>play tank
>supports blames me for everything
>play support
>tanks blame me for everything
why
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>>181683592
still cute as fuck, would smash hard
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>>181697493

I don't hate Mercy because I have problems dealing with her. I hate her because she is a crutch for retards. Like you, Mercy main.
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Triple kill with one mine. Beautiful.
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>>181697496

I play Mercy when I need to fill and it is easy as fuck, you are literally behind your whole team and all you have to do is alternate beams, you don't even have pressure to actually deal damage like Zen or be in the middle of the team like Lucio. Fuck off.
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>>181695243
That display is for tournament play so the viewers can have more info. The players can't see it and you can't use it in game.
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>>181697287
But anon

I am a Mercy main
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i hate how all damage in this game is so low

why isn't widow allowed to quick scope?

>>181697018
he's 100% right
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>>181697579
Mercy should not be invincible during her ult and should instead be a valid hero for reasons other than her overloaded broken ass ult.
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>>181697157
>HEELURS GET BWAMED FUR EVWEETING

Literally NO healer in this game is shitted on but Mercy, shut your whore mouth, healslut.

I knew Mercy mains weren't intelligent because all they know how to do is press M1 and shift occasionally, but you guys might be braindead.

>>181697493
You're not much better than the Mercy mains. I hate Mercy mains, not fucking Mercy.
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>>181696042
>this person enjoys playing this game, what a fuckin weirdo

i know this is a bit hard for some people to grasp, but you don't have to be a god (Or even GOOD, for that matter) to be able to enjoy something
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>>181697621
Now I do agree with this strongly, and she isn't just a crutch for those players, she's a crutch for others as well, they literally think there can't be a good game without a mercy heal.
If you watched the season 0 finals it was mostly Zen Lucio.
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>>181697743
Mercy gets harder once you get out of gold, sweetie
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I miss hog. Now I've got a genji and a dva and a tracer zipping around my zen ass with no one shooting them. Fucker wasn't even that much of a problem, I've died to more rockets and scatters.
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>>181697496
I'm sure some of them who aren't completely retarded can see there's a degree of difficulty involved in staying alive/keeping the team alive particularly at high ranks. A lot of the Mercy hate stems from autists (many who come from traditional FPSs)seething about her mechanical ease of use and her somehow "not belonging in the game", which is when you know they're retarded and have no argument
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>>181697018
Yeah its my fault we run dive and need Lucio/Zen but the 300 hour Mercy main just wont play anything else and does nothing but dive with Winston or the other two dps only to get picked off cause no one can constantly protect her
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>>181697902
This is true. You won't get any rest without tracers, genjis and winston pestering you the whole match.

You will always be the first target.
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>>181697590
people like to vent their frustrations with their own shortcomings by projecting onto other people
don't listen to idiots if you're 100% certain you're doing your job right with a cool head
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>>181697767
Day of the Pence is coming for all Mercy mains
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>>181698024
The hardest counter to mercy/pharrah is DVA, DVA will crush your mercy ass all day fucking long
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>>181698115
Only if the Pharah is retarded and doesn't take her out of the meka first.
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>>181697579
It's almost like this board is made up of multiple people.

>>181697621
This, it's not that Mercy is overpowered, it's that the higher ranks have been flooded with garbage players who can't play anything else(and can barely play her).

Plus she's fucking miserable to play against, you're forced to play hide and seek every fucking teamfight or she can just press Q and undo anything you might have done to try and carry.

It's not overpowered, it's just stupid.

>>181697840
I don't have a problem with this player, she was friendly and I'm sure she's a nice person. I don't care that she likes playing mercy and has a billion fucking hours on her, good for her, I'm mad at blizzard that this person gets put into games with players at the highest rank in the game despite being completely out of their depth.
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>>181698209
All you have to do is stick on the mercy and target her off the pharrah and it's all over, again this is where the DPS being shit really hurts you
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>>181697902
>oh no, i need to position properly, like every other hero in the game

how terrible
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>>181698115
Get a flying Genji on Pharah/Mercy and you'll get a 5v4 all the time.
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>>181697930
>there's a degree of difficulty involved in staying alive/keeping the team alive

Wow you mean like EVERY OTHER CHARACTER IN THE GAME? Do you think Mercy is the only healer? Do you think Mercy is the only character who has to try not to die? Do you think Mercy is the only character who requires positioning and gamesense and whatever faggoty meme you people will spout to make it seem like there is an ounce of depth to this shit character?
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/owg/ I need help

I've started playing hanzo
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>>181698265
oh sorry, i totally misunderstood you then. please excuse my rudeness
was it a qp match or a ranked game? i feel like qp matchmaking can be wild sometimes
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>>181697945
For every negative anecdote someone posts I could post anecdotes where Mercy actually stayed alive and rezzed at all the right times. Shit players play the character, shit players play every character.

She is fine as a character. Ease of use/the retarded SR rewards are not viable arguments against that.
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>>181697902
Mercy gets easier the higher you go.

Your teammates give you better escape routes, group up, and start telling you when to res/when to hide.
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>>181698393
Fucking filthy Hanzo main.
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181698480
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>>181698393
Just remember, every time your elims are bronze or gold, spam NEVER SECOND BEST. If you get silver though you need to commit sudoku.
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>>181698428
This was competitive.

I'm GM and have hit top 500.

We lost
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>>181686498
this reaction is funnier than the picture.
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>>181698479
Majority of the shit players play her thou, as a character she is flawed because of how piss easy she is and the fact she has the strongest ability in game that also got buffed and the sr gain just adds on to the bullshit
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>>181698393
now you need to main him, it's worth it, I promise, he's really fun to play
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>>181698393
You are wearing the correct skin, right? There's no excuse not to be READY TO UNLEASH THE WOLF
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>tfw about 50 hours in and still haven't touched mercy

should i
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>>181698593
I don't get it
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>>181698952
If you like to heal and also dodge dykes, samurais and gorillas all day sure
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>>181698950
>not playing sasuke hanzo and using the superior highlight intro
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>went on a massive loss streak
>fell from 3897 to 3400
>quit the game for a couple weeks
>on a 6 win streak right now and almost back to Master
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>>181697584
I prefer these outside of events now because I have so many of the legendary skins that all I get are duplicates so the 500 by itself is always more worthwhile to me.
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>>181698479
>She is fine as a character. Ease of use/the retarded SR rewards are not viable arguments against that.

What are you, a retard? How are those not arguments?

>She's fine as a character

She is literally the least mechanically engaging character in the entire game. She doesn't need to manage cooldowns. She doesn't need to even fire a weapon. She doesn't even need to move on her own because unlike other healers who need to think about escapes and positioning, Mercy ironically needs the least positioning because she can LShift freely towards teammates. She doesn't even have to manage her own health, because it starts regenerating after 1 second. This character is on rails as fuck. You're not even really playing the game if you play Mercy, the level of engagement is that fucking low.

And at the same time, even though this character is the least mechanically skilled in the game by far, she has one of the most powerful ults, and she's invincible during the ult so there's no risk to using it, and she can LShift towards dead people for no fucking reason so she doesn't need "positioning" even then, and she doesn't need LoS so she needs it even less.

How is that "fine" as a character?

How is her ease of use not a valid argument, when the whole reason people hate her is because this character is so retardedly centralizing that every game she is in becomes about killing her, yet she's also the least skillfu. character? You don't think there is a fucking problem there?

The busted SR gains are stupid as fuck too because, once again, this is THE LEAST MECHANICALLY DEMANDING CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE GAME, who is simultaneously the easiest to climb the ladder with because she gains massive amounts of SR despite having the least engagement in combat, and can climb with a negative winrate while other classes have to maintain higher winrates to climb, win more games to climb, and actually do more in the game to win.
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Mercy was only fun to play after the game launched where she could get her ult in 30s until they nerfed that for the very first time. After that I was smart enough to stop playing her and never became one of the dreaded Mercy mains you see today instead becoming a superior Junkrat main.
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>>181699620
Ah, so you're upset because you personally don't like how she's built and how she's supposed to be played.
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>>181698952
Don't do it anon, the mercy main is contagious. You think "I'll just fill this one game" but then you get a 5 man res, potg, and epic card, and your whole team compliments you.

You'll get addicted to the attention and free SR and keep playing her until you get to a rank where you can no longer compete playing any other hero.

At that point you're forced to keep picking Mercy, climbing higher and higher until you picking any other hero would almost make the game 5v6. People will start to hate you at this point, more so than they do most mercy mains and you'll crave the attention you used to get. You might change your battle tag and start finding tutorials online on how to sound like a girl.

You'll get so much attention and praise at this point that it will go to your head. Would people be this nice to me in real life if I was a girl? Maybe I was just meant to be a girl. ETA 6 months from this point until you're popping estrogen pills and jerking off on webcam in rainbow stockings.

Mercy, not even once.
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>>181699620
I see a lot of opinions in a very tired wall of text.
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>>181693725
this is factually true
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>>181698960
Silver is second best, as long as your elims aren't silver, you're not second best, which means you're NEVER SECOND BEST
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holy fuuuuuuuuck why is comp actual cancer

literally 3 games in a row full of mouthbreathing retards

lmao literally one failed push is all it takes for people to spit the dummy and throw

this games playerbase is so embarrassing and needs to be gassed asap
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>chain wipe the enemy team trying to stall in Overtime
>Mercy just flies in and presses Q
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>>181700406
Why didn't you just kill her anon?
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>860 hours
>2300

Safe to say that they're either 12 or mentally retarded
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>>181697772
>i hate how all damage in this game is so low
It's weird heroes' damage haven't been buffed majorly in a while since S76's November buff.

>why isn't widow allowed to quick scope?
Apparently OW players hate the idea of dying instantly in a FPS game.
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Now i know why people instalock Junkrat. Blowing people up and catching them in traps is so much fun.
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>>181700406
>be Mercy
>let my team die
>some poor fucker thinks he accomplished something great by getting a triple/quadruple
>little did he know I was ready to rezz and my team was smart enough to die on the same spot

>thanks for the x4/x5 rezz, nerds

>they end up hateposting on Mercy in /owg/
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>>181700657
>Apparently OW players hate the idea of dying instantly in a FPS game

well how come scatter arrow exists
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>>181700591
If you have a silver portrait and haven't hit master it's time to uninstall.
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>gold damage as rein (shoutout mercy)
>smashing everyone in the face
>still 10k blocked at half
>In graviton with my whole team
>hammer down, flame strike, charge
>charge gets a triple and cripples 4th
>POTG is Hanzo pressing Q on a Zarya Q
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>>181700473

Because she was hiding in spawn.
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>>181700775
That's about to be on the chopping block next just watch. Roadhog already got hit. It's only a matter of time before the player base gets their way and Scatter gets nerfed.
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>>181700960

Scatter is genuinely stupid though. At the very least they could make it so it only "arms" after 15 meters or something.
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>>181700960

Good. Scatter is fucking bullshit.
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>>181700960
Scatter is cancer and the reason why people play Hanzo in the first place.
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>>181695591
>had the reaction times of an 80 year old woman drugged up on weed and opiates to counter the pain of her crippling osteoporosis

That's every Mercy main and a lot of other support mains too. I seriously can't fathom how it's so hard to look at who needs healing then heal them. Good luck getting anything from a Mercy unless you're right in front of them shooting and usually not even then.
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>>181700817
>playing Zarya
>100 energy, raping face, kill two of the enemy and get the remaining four incredibly low
>Graviton them so I can finish them all off easily
>Hanzo ults
>chips them all for 10-12 damage because he did it from the other side of the map and they were all almost dead to begin with
>I get kill credit for every single one
>play of the game is Hanzo's corpse laying in the dirt, then him ulting from spawn the second he gets back
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>>181700817
Buffing/Healing Rein as Mercy is pretty dope. Whenever I play Rein no one does it for me, though. Sucks.
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Assuming I put in the time to practice her, can I carry with widow? Her damage output seems absurd.

I don't care about a grind, I just want to pubstomp ;_;
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>>181701648
Yes a good Widow can carry easily.
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So is it safe to say we might see Doomfist next week?
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>>181701241
Can't wait to see this copypasta in Moon's chat soon
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>>181701648

It's really hard because she has a lot of counters, many of whom are common, and movement is stupid strong in this game so landing headshots is very, very difficult.
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Ok my ps4 match just got disconnected.. will sr be lost for this?
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>>181701648
A godlike Widow can win 1v11
A good Widow can easily be the MVP in a decent or even subpar team
A decent Widow can pull her weight and shit on the likes of Pharmacies and other snipers, allowing heroes like Reaper to dominate unchecked
A bad Widow is among the most useless heroes in the game, even worse than a bad Hanzo, so you need a lot of practice and a lot of skill to contribute as the Windowmaker
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>>181693907
>>181694272
>it's a "casually lob two rockets at the tunnel-visioning Widowmaker from across the map, leave, forget about her, and then see both of your names show up in the killfeed because she didn't even fucking move" episode
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>>181700657
Jeff is allergic to buffing damage. it was the lasting thing that he changed to Sombra, and it was the change that finally made her playable.

i get that he wants a teamwork heavy game, but this hate of high damage and solo kill potential is killing his game.

people complain about random bullshit in the game about heroes they don't like but the thing everyone complains about is "muh 3 dee pee ess" "they can't get kills"

the reality is gold players are the majority and they have limited mechanics and the majority of people will play a dps. my solution is make the dps stronger and buff the tanks so that with good play they can shut dps down, and make every healer a solo healer.

still a team fight that will be fun and require coordination and people can play the game how they want now. even at high ranks with good aim a fast team fight takes like a minute, and after the first few seconds coordination devolves into focus fire shot calling anyway.

FUCK JEFF LET WIDOW QUICKSCOPE

Am i retarded or am i on to something?
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>>181700817
Fuck me that's pretty.
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Why is widow a defense hero but better on attack? It really makes me think.
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>>181701875
>A godlike Widow can win 1v11
lol

>download an aimbot to play widowmaker
>dva holds right click in your face
>winston w+m1s you til you die
>soldier s76 shoots you from behind a barrier
>laggy enemy widow kills you because peaker's advantage
>finally get some kills and mercy just resurrects them from spawn
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>>181702170
Generally speaking, attack heroes are better at going around corners and shooting people. Defense heroes are better at shooting people who come around corners. So, McCree is a Defense hero is what I'm saying.
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mercy has no counter
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>>181702394
Widow, 76, Genji,
Learn to lead shots.
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>>181702394
Winston takes her out pretty easy, if she's bad at dodging. Any flankers can ruin her day in a second.
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doomfist on ptr tomorrow
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>>181702614
Better not be lying because liars go to hell
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>>181702259
I said can, not will. She can obviously be countered, but she needs to be or she'll fucking wreck everything.
Also, not even an aimbot will get you to the level you need to be at for that. It takes more than just aiming to be a good Window.
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>>181702656

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20877886
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This game is so buggy.
I just ran into a game where I started firing Widow's gun in SMG mode and the sound never fucking shut off so I had to hear it all game long.
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Can we just ban every single Mercy one trick or something? All they do is shit up the game.

I actually want to gas them but I thought that might be a bit severe.
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>>181702857
too many complicated abilities
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>>181702857
>Playing Lucio
>Rein hits me with charge
>Is immediately killed by a team mate
>Have to listen to Lucio wailing for the rest of the game
PTSD is a very serious condition
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>>181703012
That sounds hilarious.
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>>181702394
A cast time on Resurrect would be fair. Lucio's has a 0.8 second cast time on Sound Barrier for some retarded reason, meaning I constantly try to maybe save a tank's life, but he dies milliseconds before the barrier hits.

Mercy can do it instantaneously, any time during a 10 second window. In Overtime it's made even easier, with a 12 second window since respawns are 2 seconds longer.

While you're at it, make it so Mercy loses resurrect if she's killed during the cast.
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How to fix overwatch:
>hog nerf reverted
>defense matrix only works on projectiles
>you lose your ultimate on death
>hanzo removed
>you do not gain SR playing mercy
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>play reinhardt
>one second lag when my hammer hits verus when the hit marker shows
>firestrike is all over the place
>charge literally can't hit a earth shattered tracer
>earthshatter gets blocked by a cardboard box

WHAT DID THEY DO TO HIM
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>>181703129
>Enemy Lucio starts casting sound barrier
>Run up and boop him
>Cast is delayed for about an hour until he hits the ground at his incredibly reduced falling speed
>Ends up missing everyone anyways because I shoved him away from the team
I love doing this so much
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>>181702394

Akshually I found that McMeme's ultimate is pretty good at wiping out mercy's rezed party cause rezed people can't do anything for like a second after rez. I've done this several times.
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>>181703278
>directly hit someone with charge
>they get shoved three inches to the left and take no damage
>completely miss someone with charge, they're like a mile over to the side and running away from it
>pin them anyways because fuck you I guess
>charge toward someone
>end up hitting the pharah that's literally not even on my screen and killing her
>do the earthshatter, fire strike charge combo for the achievement
>don't get it because charge shoves everyone out of the way
This ability has a smaller hitbox than Hanzo's fucking arrows and it's god damn retarded.
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>>181703282
In all fairness, as a Lucio main I'd be okay with losing Sound Barrier if I'm killed during the cast. Getting booped off a cliff while breaking it down is Lucio's greatest shame. It should be punished.
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>>181703451
I don't know, I mean it makes sense, but at the same time one of my favorite things is to ult right before I die so it makes the ult sound and then doesn't do anything.
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>>181703539
>ult right before I die so it makes the ult sound and then doesn't do anything
>Orisa halts you back onto the ledge
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>>181703634
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>>181702394
>Genji
>Tracer
>Winston
Next.
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>>181703176
>hanzo removed
To far.
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>>181703957
>hanzo reworked to mid range engager only

much better
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>>181692850
Well, they obviously have the metric in place, since that's how it works with placements.

Why not just switch the win/loss trigger to that metric?
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How badly do I need to hurt myself to have an average amount of luck
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I'm so bad with Widow.
How do I get good with Widow?
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>>181704384
Click on the heads
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>>181703957
>>181704083
How about:
>no headshots on leading Sonic arrow
>no headshots on leading Scatter arrow
>arrow damage increased 4% to 130 per arrow
>headshot modifier lowered to 1.5 past 30 meters (195 damage crits)
>sonic arrow's chime is audible you're in range when it's put down
>scatter arrow has an audible voice line and a firing delay similar to Mei's right click
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>>181704384
Positioning and good aim, also run away if you're getting flanked and you're not confident you can kill the fucker at close range
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>>181704848
>no headshots on sonic arrow
Why?
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>>181704962
Nothing defines the problem with Hanzo more than being instantly killed by a random Sonic arrow.
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>312 mb pre-download for ptr

EVERYONE PANIC
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*panics*
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Post adorable cowboys
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>>181705078
>312 mb
That like a single bug fix by blizzard standarts.
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>>181705623
I'd rather post handsome cowboys.
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>>181703176
>Hog removed
>Dva removed
>That's it

Wow a perfect game. That was hard.
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>Its another 'The enemy team gets their shit together in overtime and team kills with a magically coordianted triple ult' episode

Who writes this shit?
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Muting voice and written chat was the best decision I ever made in this game

It's not like anyone in gold ever uses it for actual coordination anyway
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>Play Mystery Heroes
>Beating enemy team really bad, 30 seconds left, we have a Mercy, 3 Bastions, and Roadhog
>Only enemy Mei cowering behind a corner
>Suddenly he Blizzards
>teamwipe
>Literally unable to kill this fat Chinese
>doesn't die the rest of the match
>Blizzard again at the end, teamwiping us off the point

This is not right.
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>>181704384
Spend centuries in those widow HS only custom matches
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tfw have 70 hours on D.Va this season alone (next comes in at 37 minutes for orisa)
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You can have your waifu right now

but you have to learn their native language to the point of fluency first.
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>>181706278
aucun problème. j'ai hâte d'enfoncer ma bite dans la chatte bleue d'Amélie!
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>>181706413
Enjoy being strangled in your sleep bro
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>>181706278

What if I have no waifu?
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>>181706413
Sleep tight Gerald.
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>>181706451
Husbando?
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>>181705924
>It's another 'Genji pops ult then gets nanoboosted and bubbled and he rolls the point with no chance to contest' episode.
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>>181706278
That's easy, I'm already fluent!
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>>181706769

>implying you can understand Australian
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>>181706814
It's not that hard, is it?
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>>181706769
>fluent in aussie shitposting

Impossible, the gift is only hereditary. No man can comprehend them.
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>>181706278
I already know English no problem!
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>>181705078
That's ridiculously small.
Heroes are about a GB or more.
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>>181706278

Where do i collect my waifu?
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>>181706957
Blizzard's been slowly adding doomfist to the ptr bit by bit. Try to keep up before saying such things.
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>People keep saying that you just play Mercy to climb
>Try it
>Not even winning that much so think it doesn't work
>Stop
>Get told that it doesn't matter how much you win if you just keep playing it you'll climb
>Do it again
>It works

Wh-what?
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>>181707021
Once Trump passes the Waifu'sarereal act, you can get your's at waifu.gov
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>playing with friend new to the game
>pick Lucio since I'm doubting anyone else in his skill range would bother picking a support class
>shit so hard on the enemies that they start claiming I'm hacking

I know it's like fighting a kindergartener, but it's still satisfying to skate fast and eat ass
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>>181707136
When the fuck is he going to make anime real? That's the only reason I voted for him.
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>>181706848
I meant English, silly!
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>>181693759
>>181694393
Try opening the news tab in the launcher, its like the 5th or 6th one down
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>>181707361
I have a QP group that I join sometimes. They're all gold SR or lower, so when I group with them I'm practically smurfing. It's fun destroying teams single-handedly with Lucio.
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>someone in your team leaves
>lose 33 SR
>next match shit team
>lose 27 SR
>win one match
>17 SR

What a fun and encouraging system you have there Blizzard.
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>>181707582
Placement matches reward skill rating based on personal skill, not wins/losses

why don't ranked comp games use this metric?

having your entire SR based on nothing but wins/losses is really bad game design.
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>>181707582
Past Diamond (or Platinum even), SR gains and losses should be strongly equalized across your team. If one person on the team only gets +17 SR, then everyone on the team gets more or less +17 SR.

Blizzard is so terrified of doing anything to ratify the meta, but they're doing exactly that by meddling with SR gains and losses between different playstyles. You wouldn't have shit like Mercy grinding Rez for SR if the be-all-and-end-all of Mercy SR gain was winrate as a team.
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>>181707640
>having your entire SR based on nothing but wins/losses is really bad game design.
The only factors that should affect SR past a certain point is difficulty. Underdog, overdog, how many people on your team are forced to flex, etc.

"Individual performance" is only relevant for placements and lower skill ranks. In higher skill ranks, there's no way for Blizzard to reliably detect individual performance, and the metrics they use are increasingly distanced from what actually wins or loses games.
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Does blizz do shit about selling accounts?
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>>181708049
not really, unless it's reaaally obvious.
Why would you do that, though?
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>discorded
>go around the corner to lose it
>Reaper with harmony pops out and reaps me
Feels bad
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>>181708196
Game's shit and I've gotten master every season, should be worth a lot more than I value it at
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>>181707640
Bit new, but how does it base personal skill? The medals and "on fire" mechanic?
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>team picks all supports+sombra
>shitstomps anubis on attack
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Im a new player
Will my friends know i have daddy issues if I keep spamming roadhog
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>>181708725
Nah, Reinhardt is the daddy issues hero.
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>>181708808
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>>181706278
Good thing Australian is just a janky form of English.
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>>181708808
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Why doesn't Sombra do damage?
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why are zens voice lines to shit?

i have nothing decent to spam like MADA MADA
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>tfw deathknuckle in less than 24 hours

watch him turn out to be a support character that loans his gauntlet out to people, increasing their melee damage to 100 for one attack
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>>181709569
>not spamming "MERRRIIIIIIII christmas"
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>>181708808
>>181708725
>daddy issues hero
>not s76

>older
>not jacked, but still in shape
>you look up to him
>serious, doesn't show you much affection
>abandoned overwatch just like your dad did you

Reinhardt is your cool uncle who takes you on vacation and molests you or your grandpa who always gives you money.
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>>181709609
C'mon son, at least wait until next week.
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>got the game at the end of the anniversary event
>currently at 2550

can i make it to diamond in my first season? i end up playing zen most of the time because of the shitflinging between the dps, also have 71% winrate with him
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>>181709868
Perhaps that's why I love playing 76, since my father was always absent from my life due to constant deployments.
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>>181709868
>reinhardt
>molesting anyone
>implying he's not the one who constantly has people trying to get him in bed
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>>181709868
>Reinhardt is your cool uncle who takes you on vacation and molests you
Reinhardt confirmed guncle
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Categorize all the heroes into well designed, functional, and poorly designed.
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>>181695598
I'd just play Ana.
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>>181695598
>OW playerbase decreases by 30%
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>>181709609
>All these retards thinking Blizz would put out a major update on a non-Tuesday
Did you guya forget the time span it took Orisa to come to PTR? The let out hints on Twitter then next week they'll put on a video and then put them on PTR.
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>>181710112
>Well designed
Ana
Genji
Lucio
Mei
Reinhardt
Sombra
Tracer
Widowmaker
Winston
Zarya
Zenyatta

>Fine
Bastion
Junkrat
Orisa
Pharah
Roadhog(prenerf)
Soldier 76
Torb


>Poorly Designed
Dva: Cancer incarnate

Hanzo: Rng, the hero. Not overpowered but I can't help but feel cheated half the time I die to him.

Mccree: Entire kit built around an ability nerfed so hard you basically never use it. Only sees play because he's one of the few hitscan heros in the game.

Mercy: Way too powerful for the minimal skill required to play her effectively, extremely low skill ceiling, hide-seek play style that is extremely unfun to play against.

Reaper: Just garbage all around. Tankbuster that has historically been bad against most tanks, garbage teleport, close range hero with no way to actually get in range.

Symmetra: Extremely situational and miserable to play against in the situations where she's good.
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this hog nerf is fucking gay, there was already a lot of ways the hooked victim could be saved. Now he just tickles them, feeds their ults, and fucking dies.

t. 3300 hog main on suicide watch
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>>181711136
When rein stopped being relevant I learned how to play Zarya.

Stop whining and move along from your dead hero.
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>3v3 elim puts me (low GM) with 2 plats against a GM and two high masters
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>>181710112

>Well Designed - Excellent designs which contribute significantly to the game
Lucio
Reaper
Reinhardt
Symmetra
Zarya
Zenyatta

>Functional - They have their issues, some more than others, but nothing too major, could probably do with some minor changes but are generally healthy
Ana
D.va
Hanzo
Junkrat
McCree
Mei
Pharah
Soldier 76
Torbjorn
Widowmaker
Winston

>Poorly Designed - Multiple critical flaws that seriously need to be addressed. Could probably stand to be straight up deleted without significantly harming the game
Bastion - Incredibly dull gameplay, character design could not possibly be any more bland, and fucking obnoxious when played well(which is functionally nonexistent thankfully)
Genji - I have no idea what the fuck they were thinking with this ungodly abomination, but it was bad thinking. Every possible flaw imaginable is in his kit
Mercy - Boring as fuck thanks to wholly braindead gameplay, has way too much game impact with way too little effort, visual design is fucking atrocious
Orisa - They had no idea what they wanted this character to be and it shows. Everything feels sloppily and hastily nailed together from a pile of scrapped ideas and pieces of existing heroes
Roadhog - Pudge clone, automatic 0/10. Best visual design of all Pudge clones though, so there's that
Sombra - They wanted this hero to be way too many things and ended up making her none of these things, thanks Genji you cockstain
Tracer - Her kit is not in any way acceptable. Has literally never been bad and literally cannot be bad unless blink and recall are removed completely

Most of the poorly designed heroes aren't too bad and could be salvaged, but Genji and Tracer are unacceptable and unfixable. The only solution is to release some kind of hard counter that makes them functionally unplayable.
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>>181710789
>Reaper
>garbage
I think you're the one that's garbage here, anon.
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>>181697603
Don't do this to my waifu pls.
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>>181698393
Buy a gun from your nearby store and kill yourself. with it.
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>>181711650
Follow your own advice sperg
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>>181711650
>a gun
He's playing Hanzo though, not Widow. He needs a bow.
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>>181711706
t. triggered Hanzo main
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Teammates should see when someone is trapped in your junks trap.
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>>181711725
I don't main anyone
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>Winning 2 to 0 on Oasis
>Someone leaves even though last map and we have this in the bag
>Lose three in a row because permanent 5v6
This is the most retarded fucking bullshit i've ever seen. Why the fuck do you still lose SR because one idiot ruined it?
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>>181711795
Teammates should see all hero made constructs from allies, symmetra's ults and turrets, junkrat's traps, torbjorn's turret, etc.
That stuff should just automatically be communicated to the team.
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>>181711472
>Symmetra is well-designed
>Genji and Tracer are abominations
I wonder who this could be.
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i have won 1 (one) 3v3 elimination match now in the time where i could've won 9 duel games easily

fucking blizz and their retarded ass devs
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>soon enough stylosa will come and steal emoji anon's leaks from us

why even live?
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Am I the top Symfag in /owg/?
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>>181712143
probably not but you should kys yourself regardless
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>>181712042
Symmetra serves a unique and useful purpose for her team. She has her flaws but her unique contributions far outweigh them.
She may fit more in the Functional category but I feel the sheer novelty of her playstyle is a really big deal.

Meanwhile Genji and Tracer both follow a tired, overused pattern that has been well established to be very VERY bad for your game's health. They treat the game like it's a single player game and overload the kit with mobility while still rivaling less mobile heroes in damage.
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>>181712082
Who?
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Hanzo is fun and I usually don't have anything against him on my team

If you disagree you are a boring metaslave and/or an epic memer
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>>181712413
This. Only time I get mad at Hanzo is when they switched off Widow and the enemy team has a Pharmacy
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>>181712413
The opinion of a waifufag doesn't matter, fortunately. Especially when he's straight from reddit
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>>181698393
Get decent with him, stick near the team and use your wallhax arrows well, and i'm happy with you on the team then
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>>181712303
Symmetra if anything is the odd one just because she's the only support that doesn't actually heal. Not to mention a lot of her gameplay is just microwave and jump around, which isn't really that unique.

>Meanwhile Genji and Tracer both follow a tired, overused pattern that has been well established to be very VERY bad for your game's health. They treat the game like it's a single player game and overload the kit with mobility while still rivaling less mobile heroes in damage.
And Hanzo and Widowmaker don't do this. And especially not Soldier.
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>>181711472
Man I can tell you're a shitter just from this list.
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>>181712557
>m-muh reddit
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>>181712571
>Symmetra if anything is the odd one just because she's the only support that doesn't actually heal
That's part of what makes her unique. She's a support that offers only utility and area denial, and she's the only support capable of warding off flankers, which is her primary job. Her gun isn't anything special, but the rest of her is.

>And Hanzo and Widowmaker don't do this. And especially not Soldier.
Hanzo, Widow and Soldier have their issues. Snipers aren't the healthiest design, but like CC they're a necessary evil for game balance. Soldier's design is boring as fuck, but that's the intent. He's supposed to be as basic as possible to provide and easy starting point for new players, and he does that while also being a strong pick in general. He's got other issues that need to be worked out, but they're balance problems, not design problems.
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>>181711823
Why don't you complain about the leaver penalty begin ridiculously low?
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>>181712697
>understanding game design is somehow related to player skill
Stop talking about things you don't understand.
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What was the "leak"?
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>>181712875
Bad game design =/= high mobility, anon-kun. Just because you can't hit someone doesn't mean something's busted.
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>>181712908
are you talking about doomfist?
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>>181712974
>>181712082
I meant to reply to this
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>>181712908
This cute anon predicted we'd get a d.va statue and doomfist teasers this week.
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After hours of trying to improve I still can't get out of gold. I practice my aim in custom games for about half an hour to warm up. I mained Lucio and Winston for a while to get a better gamesense too. I keep track of ults. I keep track of cooldowns. I'm always engaging in team chat. But I still can't break out of gold. I'm always on the edge.

Am I just naturally bad?
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>>181712858
Why dont i complain about the whole damn thing?
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>>181712973
>Bad game design =/= high mobility
Except it literally does. Mobility is fun up until a certain point, but you can't go too far with it. Once you start going too far it starts becoming a chore to manage your own mobility while still keeping track of your enemy. Mobility creep sucks all the fun out of mobility, cripples your options for future designs, causes major balance issues and pisses off your players.
This is such a huge issue in every single competitive game in existence.
You have no idea what you're talking about and need to stop trying to discuss this because you're only embarrassing yourself.
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>>181713208
Oh neat
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>>181713295
Who do you main?
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>>181712143
Rank?
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>That feel when you want to play nothing but Sym

Why is she so great? Her generator on offense is just so good
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>>181713591
Plat
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>>181713336
The only reason why you complain about Genji and Tracer is because they keep killing you because of your low reaction time. You put Lucio, the hero with the highest mobility in the game, up there as one of the most well designed despite you saying that's automatically bad. Absolutely no one whined about Tracer being too strong before this dive meta started. If she was so badly designed you would think more game """"designers"""" like you would have noticed from the beginning.

I assume you're a tank main who's used to slow gameplay and low DPS and doesn't want to adapt to change in the meta, but you should seriously consider getting good. Spouting low tier opinions won't make you an authority on the matter.
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>>181713581
I flex. I can mosf reliably play Ana/Zen, Winston/Dva, Pharah and Reaper. I usually end up filling Ana or Winston
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>>181713626
Because shes countered by winston, reinhardt, and tracer?
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What's the best stuff to know to do as Zen?
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Jesus fucking christ this fucking shit game. Two fucking draws then I get worst fucking shitters who are trying to kill pharmercy with symmetra and sombra, winston who jumps into point 1v4 and dies immediately and repeats this madness for 4 minutes. I lost fucking 39sr because these shitters couldnt do anything right
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Alright, 1-5 I main Junk in comp til' Doomfist comes. 6-0 I main Orisa.
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wow playing mercy really is fucking braindead ez mode lmao

literally holy m1/m2 and fly away from retard potato aim dps to win

think im gonna stop playing dps for awhile and get some easy SR bros
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>>181712807
>That's part of what makes her unique.
It also makes her the least useful.

>She's a support that offers only utility and area denial, and she's the only support capable of warding off flankers
>she's the only support capable of warding off flankers
u wot?

>Hanzo, Widow and Soldier have their issues. Snipers aren't the healthiest design, but like CC they're a necessary evil for game balance. Soldier's design is boring as fuck, but that's the intent. He's supposed to be as basic as possible to provide and easy starting point for new players, and he does that while also being a strong pick in general. He's got other issues that need to be worked out, but they're balance problems, not design problems.
Usually, when you have "balance" problems, it means you have an issue with the designs. Reinhardt also has this problem just because the chokes in the game are designed around him.
>>
holy shit
this general is just a handful of thirsty neets talking about women in a video game
look guys
theres a character
and she's female!!!!xd
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>>181709237
She does a shit ton, shitter
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>>181713626
you might wanna learn to play other characters before you become a BOT
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>>181714121
um WTF??? this thread is for PoC only kindly fuck off u racist piece of shit
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I say that a lot of heroes have broken abilities but it doesn't really matter because said heroes don't have much other than that ability and should not be removed, let me know what you guys think

>>181710112
>well designed - fundamentally great (some not really) original ideas with fluid play styles
Ana
Genji
Hanzo - great idea, terrible consequences
Lucio - broken ability with good team work
Sombra - broken ability
Tracer
Winston
Zarya
Zenyatta

>fine
D.va - broken ability
Junkrat
McCree - kit so fundamentally strong that ensures he'll never have good range or get any use out of right click
Mei
Mercy - broken ability, boring
Pharah - both better and worse than original counterpart
Reinhardt - slows things down too much, designed to counter play self, good teamwork hero
Roadhog - broken ability
Soldier
Symmetra
Torbjorn
Widowmaker - both worse and better than original counterpart

>poorly designed
Bastion - cool character idea, boring play style, can't counter play on his own much

Orisa - rehashed abilities, is essential a beefed up defense hero and can't tank properly, ugly

Reaper - a flanker who works best when his opponents walk towards him.. need i say more
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>>181714121
kys
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>>181714121
Want my filter list? I don't see any kf these posts.
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>>181714256
>or get any use out of right click
You are so dumb nigga
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>going triple healer in qp with 2 strangers
>we group up and win every game for like 3 hours straight
WEW
E
W
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>>181712413
I personally never really get to play and see the appeal because he's often instalocked in QP, so I cant practice him much
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>>181714121
Who do you like best, anon?
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If you hate mercy shitters that much, then just instapick her and check your team for any one trick shitstains.

If you don't have any, then pick whatever you want, and if you have a mercy shitter then just stay as mercy and deny them of their free mmr
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>>181714256
Reaper is a good flanker if played effectively. If you are already in a position while the enemy team is pushing, you can kill their backline within 2 or 3 shots, easily. He is also very good in a team fight due to his aforementioned high damage.
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>>181714256
Tbh the only hero that I think is utterly broken right now is Mercy. In high level plays all players on a team must make it their job to find and kill the enemy Mercy, otherwise her Q will ultimately fuck them in the ass. She's always the center of the fucking match. If Mercy was hard to play an ability this strong would be more justified. Unfortunately she's the most braindead hero to play and the easiest to do well with. This Mercy hunting in every single game pisses me off and really should stop.
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>>181714493
I am now, it's literally free elo and requires 1/4 the mental effort that i would normally use playing tracer
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>>181714497
That's if you're in a position, which is pretty rare in itself and you can see and hear him coming a mile away while his mobility is less than stellar.

I myself have seen too many Reapers lately trying to flank, but they get ganked instead.
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>>181714356
>win qp games
>lol omg guis look omg WEW E W xD
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>ult as mccree
>enemy dva whos been matrixing all fight instalocks on to me and flies straight at me with matrix
>still has enough matrix to cuck me the entire ult
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>>181714652
>see and hear him coming a mile away
You don't always have to be using teleport.. He essentially "lurks in the shadows". Using cover, alternate routes, and corners to conceal himself. If you're teleporting onto a ledge when the enemy and team can see and hear you, you're picking a wrong time to teleport.`
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>>181714661
Sorry we beat you so bad
>>
What if Blizzard, instead of being absolute retards with their balance changes, were actually playing 5d chess?
Dive comp is the only viable comp in tournaments, but Roadhog managed to be effective against it in the ladder, even in T500, as proved with his 52% winrate in GM.
Now that Roadhog is removed, there is nothing effective against dive comps, so Blizzard will have a proof that dive is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.
By doing this:
- gold shitters are pleased with Roadhog being removed,
- D.va is the scapegoat, nerfing dive comps and pleasing pros,
- defense heroes don't have to be buffed and stay in the trash where they belong.
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>>181714851
You don't have to be using teleport, but that's his fastest way of moving. Everything else everyone will know since he tells you he's around with his sounds alone.
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>>181714939
>MEGA JEWS ARE BEHIND ALL THIS!! MOM HELP ME!!!!
why dont you kys yourself?
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>>181715102
>kys
Reddit detected.
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>>181714939
>were actually playing 5d chess
That and you sound retarded.
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>tfw enemy mccree calls your mccree play cringy

he was the one fanning the hammer a mile away what the fuck is his problem
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>>181715236
>Reddit detected.
Reddit detected
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>>181715096
I mean, it would be kind of dumb if the character that can 2 shot squishies and decimate tanks was also extremely quiet. Just be smart about when and where you teleport and you'll be fine. I picked up reaper recently and have over 24 hours on him now and I've put him to very effective and good use.
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>>181715102
>mega jews
>in control
Good goy.
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>>181714939
Yongbonogtang was talking about how Blizzard is literally killing their own game by pandering for the casual players. Quite a meme desu.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6l74f3/yongbongtang_overwatch_usage_is_showing_signs_of/

>Reddit detected
>Only translation for gook caster
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>>181715293
And that's just it. He can do that but he has to get close to do it. The only way he can is there's a brawl going on already, but otherwise he'll get outranged and outdone by other characters in flanking.
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>>181713921
Collect heads.
Always be aware of who harmony orb is on. Usually you want it on whoever is lowest but often it's best to put on someone on medium health in the front rather than someone critical in the back who can go get a health kit. If you have an Ana or Mercy focus on healing targets like Genji or Winston that might be difficult for them to support mid-battle.
Discord basically lets you set target priority. Either discord whoever your team is shooting at anyway or discord supports like mercy, don't hesitate to pull it off onto whoever you're fighting. Don't worry about calling out every discord target, people who ask for that clearly don't realize how fast Zen tends to cycle through valid targets.
Use right click peeking around corners for deletes often, left click for general brawling. Also try to time right click to delete tanks when their barriers come down. Zen is a legit tankbuster in general, while squishies are theoretically top priority, if you have position on a tank you can often discord them and burn them down before they can get healed or get away.
Random terrain obstacles are your best defense, open space is death. Discord is like a temporary wallhack, and you don't make any sound moving as long as you don't bunny hop, so a random pillar or rock can be all you need to juke a flanker long enough to get a right click charged for deletion. Seriously, abuse the stealth thing, people will run a corner right into a faceful of orbs constantly.
Always help your hitscans with pharah and mercy, always.
Learn to use the discord marker as an aiming reference point itself. I frequently get headshots on characters I can barely see through the traffic, using the indicator. Also helps me with aiming at Gengu.
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>>181715357
Casual players like Dive?

Cause that's all we're seeing. Even if people cant play it right that's all these wannabe esport kiddies say to run or they report you for throwing.
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>>181695976
i swear to god im on eu and i played with this waste of human dna. I remember the super retarded name and the matching retarded user profile picture.

If this is a eu acc then this is the worst mercy i have ever played with. I even tried to explain to her that she should focus her healing rather on people who need it right now instead of the guy coming from spawn who took like 30 dmg from a sneaky symmetra turret.
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>>181715552
For dive to not be good anymore characters need to be changed which fucks with low skilled players experience. Something that Blizzard doesn't want to change any more than they can. Thats part of the reason why characters like Junkrat and Torb are not viable in tournament play, they suck and if they were any better they'd dominate comp matches.
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Yet another match where Genji or Hanzo get PoTG because of welfare Dragonblade or welfare Scatter
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>play with a mercy player who keeps trying to shotcall
>keeps encouraging the tanks to dive in
>they do, leaving the squishies behind to get melted
>everyone has 0 co-ordination because he doesn't call anything else beyond that
>lose, can't even cap the first point
>guy goes into an autistic rage
ok
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>>181697018
one thing barely anybody talked about tho is this situation

>dps player complains itt that he cant kill mercy (reason not important)

>degenerated autistic mercy player responds with how the dps is just too bad and claims to be very good at mercy and thats the reason why he doesn't die

Of course as a mercy one trick you forget that you might actually just have had good teams in those matches where you didn't die

Maybe it was the dva who babysitted you all game or your dps who sticked and watched your ass that actually saved you.
If those people wouldn't have been there your super high skilled shift spam wouldn't have saved you.

you are acting like you are the reason you are alive.
The problem is also not that mercy is too hard to kill.
The problem is that there are 5 other players in the enemy mercys team. This means sometimes 3 people are defending her and it is a 1v4 and in THIS SITUATION mercy is simply too hard to kill because of her self heal jump hitbox etc.

You mercy mains are honestly retarded.
I wish mercy was more like the medic from tf2. Maybe mercy mains would be less retarded then
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>>181715552
Defense characters can't be buffed too much otherwise casuals will complain about them (and also it's pretty poor design to make heroes which don't require much aim to be too strong), but without real counters Dive has made the meta become stale and hard to watch.
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>>181715743
I'm pretty sure they'd see more variety in comp if anything. Because right now people still sperg out if you pick anything off meta, they dont even want to give people a chance or give the match a fighting chance.
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>>181715271
It doesn't matter if you believe they foresaw all of this or not.
They are not going to nerf Tracer of buff defense heroes, and you know it.
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>>181715884

>keeps encouraging the tanks to dive in
>they do, leaving the squishies behind to get melted
>everyone has 0 co-ordination because he doesn't call

What tanks are you referring to and what squishies are you referring to? Because I don't see anything wrong with that call. The tanks should always be wading in first to give space for the dps to kill shit
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>>181715272
>hear enemy McCree try to flank
>get the drop on him flash and hammer him
>he call me a fucking rightclickers
>tries to do the same to me
>he somehow fucks it up and I kill him
>he writes a 200 word essay about ho lucky I am

Such is life in platinum.
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DVA WINSTON DIVE IS SO FUCKING BORING HOLY SHIT. SOMEONE PLEASE END THIS SHIT NO MORE PLEASE P L E A S E. ITS SO HARD TO HIT ALL THESE TINY ASS MOBILE FLANKERS AND IM A GENJI MAIN.
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>>181715743
I don't believe it. If TF2 engineer didn't make shitters leave, a small buff to Torbjörn will not.
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>>181715916
Have you seen the mercy one trick in top 500 who was doing the whole bronze to gm challenge meme?

Her game sense was awful and she got stuck in bronze because she doesn't understand how to play the game without her hard carry.
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>>181715357
I disagree with him. This is something that is common to every sport. Innovation never happens at the top level, because people back down from the risk of trying something other than the accepted best. If the meta changes, there will be another top meta that the top teams will run into each other.
Also the current standard dive is not uncounterable.
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>>181716062
Tracer's not the one you should blame for dive comp m8. If they even attempt to touch Tracer she'll become dumpster tier in regular como. She's been on a fine line since release.

What they really should do is rework some of the defense heroes in a way that makes them more effective to deal with Winston and D.Va, who are the true enablers of genji and tracer.
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It's late and slow so post any stupid picture and I'll make a hero out of it.

You'll want to main it or your shitpost back. That's my guarantee.
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>>181716413
of all the horrible hero ideas i've seen here, this one is pretty good
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>>181716347
>What they really should do is rework some of the defense heroes in a way that makes them more effective to deal with Winston and D.Va, who are the true enablers of genji and tracer.

But they will not. Now that Roadhog can't keep D.va in check on the ladder, all their statistics probably show D.va is overperforming and they will scapegoat her.
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>Every hero that needs to get to me in order to capture the point should be inferior than the heroes I pick to sit on my ass all day
Anti-dive retards in a nutshell
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yo owg

>bought overwatch a month ago
>ranked
>started ~2100
>peak ~2800 with soldier only
>stuck there
i think i am at the point where good aiming wont get me further

any experienced players like master+ have any important dos and donts or a good beginners guide?
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>>181715929

The defense heroes literally require better aim than the offense heroes (Sans mccree)

Heroes like Tracer and Soldier fire fast enough that you can just hold m1 on the enemies general hitbox and get kills (And then in soldiers case press M2 and hit a nearby wall to deal half their health in damage)

And they have skinny hitboxes, mobility, healing options etc.

Defense heroes like widow and hanzo have much more limited mobility options and slower rate of fire (As well as hanzo having to lead projectiles)

Junkrat has to lead extremely slow projectiles constantly while having a really easy to shoot hitbox and predictable mobility

Mei has absolute shit in terms of offensive power and crap mobility

Bastion has 0 mobility and a giant hitbox

Offense heroes can basically win any matchup they're in with enough mechanical skill. They're designed to be good in every situation. As are tanks.


Defense heroes feel like they were designed with "useful in really niche situations" in mind.
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>COME GET YER ARMOR
What do you do?
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>>181691283
>I've been CLIMBING with a 45% winrate and I'm about to hit fucking masters.
The higher you climb the lower your win rate unless you queue with others.
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>>181716925
Get the armor before D.Va or Rein takes it
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>"someone deal with the pharah"
>instapick torb
>turrt bullies her in the air and rivet finishes the job a few times
>she tries to solo ult me and my masterpiece
>MOLTEN CORE her ass
>they switch eventually
>"SWITCH OFF TORB FFS"
The underdog strikes again
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>>181716925
sidestep it if its on the ground and run away from Torb if he's trying to throw them at me
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>>181717286
You sound like every teammate while I play Torb
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>>181716236
No you're not. You'd be bursting them dead if you were.
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>>181716870
This post
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>>181716816
soldiers always a safe hero but it's particularly irritating when a player doesn't know how to play anything else. If your team is blaming you (as the DPS) then they're idiots.

stick to the highground and learn some more heroes .
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>>181717323
thats kinda the joke of it, whether its me or someone else Torbing, so many people avoid them that the whole spawn path is littered with them that its a happy accident if someone takes it
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Legitimately the offense heroes get so much preferential treatment its ridiculous while the defense heroes are like the unloved red-headed step child.
Blizz has been making repeated changes to McCree, Soldier, Sombra, Genji and a couple Reaper to try and make sure their "pets" are always viable and in comp play.

Meanwhile Bastion gets reworked to be worse than he was "pre-buff", Mei gets the shaft constantly, Junkrat is completely ignored since release despite being dumpster tier

Where is the justice. Tank meta has changed a lot, offense meta has changed a bit but all other than sombra have seen a fair amount of representation, and even now sombra sees play.
Healers have been constantly rebalanced since launch

Meanwhile defense heroes get worse
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>this horseshit all over dumblr about how R76 and ""Reapfist""" need to go to war over canonization

Where did the Ana76 fags go? Come back.
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>>181717539

The defence heroes are shitty meme characters that shouldn't even be in the game.

Not every hero has to be viable. As someone already stated the defence heroes were clearly created with specific situations in mind.

Any slight buffs will make them OP due to their kit.
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>>181717394
ye i really have problems when there are already enough dps and i cant play anything else. most of the times ends in flame and tilt since noone wants to step aside.

which tank and heal is universal and easy so i have some options to switch if i really have to?
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>>181703129
>Lucio's has a 0.8 second cast time on Sound Barrier for some retarded reason

It's so he can't set it off while wallriding or flying through the air. It gives enemies on the ground a chance to kill him before it goes off. HMMMMMMMMMMM.
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>>181714346
i know it's for tanks, but most tanks have an advantage over him anyway

>>181714497
it's always been his fundamental weakness when he's trying to flank hard, i always see him more like a frontline/soft flanker who stays somewhat close to his team and instead tries to get the jump on the enemy to sandwich them with his team. going in too deep like a genji or tracer is just suicide, so it's just a bad design because he can't do what he was intended to do properly.

i don't think the character should be removed, only character i want gone is orisa because she's just the laziest most redundant shit of all time.

>>181714593
Mercy annoys me too but it makes sense if you ignore the people who play her. If you're the character with the strongest ultimate in the game other characters will always have to play around you, and because the ultimate is so strong the rest of her kit has to be weakened and simplified. But it's still just an ultimate so you have to build up to it, and if you can't stay alive then you're dead weight.

She was always this risk/reward character, but now that she's meta again she's getting the same hate Roadhog got. A simplified kit, built around a powerful ability, that required very little mechanical skill and strategy. But like how Mercy punishes poor aim and teamwork, Roadhog punished a low rank player's poor positioning.

She'll probably still be nerfed just like him though, this game is nerfs till the end of time.
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>>181717539
>Meanwhile Bastion gets reworked to be worse than he was "pre-buff"
>Soldier with tighter grouping leading to better accuracy
>Heal no longer roots him in place and recharges after 4sec
>Turret has better defense
>Tank has more armor for longer survivability
>Can annihilate the enemy team if in a decent position
>But he can't headshot anymore so he's worse despite it not being too big of a change
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>>181717717
>Roadhog punished a low rank player's poor positioning.
This meme still isn't dead yet? Hot damn.
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>>181717669
lucio, but he's boring if you aren't the one making calls

winston/dva/rein/zarya for tanks. just take your pick depending on what the offtank picks
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>>181717741
>>Tank has more armor for longer survivability

Why would you lie on the internet?
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>>181717650

>Not every hero has to be viable

Then what the point of balancing? May as well just stop and never buff/nerf anything ever again by that logic.
Obviously absolutely harmonious balance where everyone is equally viable is next to impossible, but it should always be the goal to move as close to that ideal as possible. Otherwise why bother having 24 heroes.
May as well just have Soldier/Genji/Tracer/Winston/Dva/Zen/Lucio/Mercy.

>Any slight buffs will make them OP due to their kit

What exactly is the definition of "OP due to their kit". Because right now they see 0 play meanwhile heroes like Lucio, Winston and Tracer see play in over 80% of pro matches because of their "Kit"


Its the logic of esports. Shit doesnt see play if its not OP. If you buffed junkat mei and bastion to Tracer/Lucio/Winston level, all that would change is that you'd now have 3 new heroes in the meta rather than 3 less.

The current state of balance where 8-9 heroes give or take dominate the entire meta (Some of them more than others) is not even close to ideal
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>>181717905
>lucio
>boring
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>>181717741

Its funny that you describe bastion with all these points like he can teleport behind you and one shot you.

And yet he still sees 0 play. Hmmmm
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>>181685341
ana was a classic
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>>181717669

Winston and Dva are always good (And really, the only tanks you should be playing at the moment)

Lucio should be on every single team ever. No exceptions.

>>181718010
>>181717905

Im convinced the people that think Lucio is boring just skate along the ground next to teammates with healing aura on missing enemies constantly.

Lucio is one of the best designed healers in an FPS/TPS Ive ever played in terms of fun mechanical engaging gameplay. Blatant overpowered-ness aside
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>>181717905
>>181718160
k thanks will try to put them into my skillset

lets see if i get diamond this season
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>>181686840

>Which is ridiculous and totally contradicts her entire backstory,

How exactly. She blackmails police officers and joined Los Muertos, she's not "Good", she just wants power.
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>struggle for weeks to get out of Platinum
>finally do it
>already at 3350 in two days

Could it be that elohell is a real thing? Honestly I feel like I've been getting nothing but good games at Diamond, even the ones I've lost have always been really intense and nearly never onesided (besides one match with a leaver and one with a duo throwing)
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>>181718238
>Could it be that elohell is a real thing?
no

i have played my fair share in video games across all genres (fps, wow, lol and ow)
in all i got atleast to top 1% and when i watch back to those times when i was stuck it was always my fault

but thats obvious. you are the only variable regarding your own progress if you play solo. the chance of having good or bad teammates is equal for both teams and you are again the only variable

so no elo hell is a bullshit excuse for people who are in denial and dont want to improve
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>>181718126
>implying /pol/tard knows what he's talking about
Ana was a classic, Tracer and Mercy weren't.
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>hog main
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>>181718238
>complaining about elo hell
>when performance metrics are what truly decide your SR

Hmmm
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>>181716335
At the top level there is a distinct lack of countering other than another dive comp.

I played in contenders and literally every team was dive dive dive and anything that wasn't dive was just wiped off the map because dive is better than anything else atm.
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>>181718398
Maybe I've just gotten better then, I ain't complaining.
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more achievements when?
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>>181717539
cause defense is pure cancer
people already take a year to kill Sym and Torb defense so I dont want anymore of those fucks to be used more
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>>181716925

Why don't you just build something that dispenses armor packs out automatically?
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I'm a Mercy main and holy shit ranking up is now easy mode.

>play Mercy
>heal
>damage boost when everyone is full health
>revive either as soon as possible if I know I lose (for less sr lose) or wait fuck the bigly rez if I think we can win
>repeat

I win as good as every match... Mercy is more than broken.
Aiming? KEK
Need Healing? KEK self heal
Need to escape? Just fly to your team mate at the other corner of the map
Genji and Winston are targeting you? Just guide them right into a trap
The enemy wants to shoot you? Look at this Trump wall, you can't shoot me behind this big beautiful wall

And if you think your own team is the problem: Disable all communication. Every player in ranked wants to win (sure there are some exceptions, but in 90 % of all matches people want to win) so they have to deal with you as Mercy.

The only problem is if anyone is taking Mercy from you. You have two options:
-the other mercy swaps after you ask nicely
-your team loses the game
As soon as you play Sym or Widow the Mercy will give you the Mercy 100 %
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>>181685341
whoa

>>181717825
if you're with your team zarya/dva protect you, it's like one of the first things they learn to work around

if you don't check corners you get hooked

if you don't watch flanks you get hooked

if you're not near cover you get hooked

hog was by his team pretty often because of how vulnerable he was, so if you're close enough to him you've probably overextended and you'll get hooked.

the only time where getting hooked by hog even with good positioning is possible is if you're playing a tank and hog hooks you because he can't reach anyone else

it's way harder to land hooks on key targets in higher ranks, and usually only happens once the fight is just one massive brawl. where pretty much everyone is vulnerable to everyone anyway.
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>>181718418
I sure can't wait for the next Doomfist tease today and the /pol/ posting to ramp up again like yesterday. Sure can't wait. I-I love wasting 3 thread complaining about niggers. I-It's g-great...
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>>181718684
Mercy is fine.
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>>181718448
And whats odd is the pro players and contenders contestants will stream and play off the wall shit like reaper or junkrat and it counters a dive team well. Its like they've got this cookie cutter mold for a team and aren't allowed to deviate or try something new.
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>>181684507
Well respect ur opinion but imo Junkrat, Bastion, Symetra and even Reaper don't involve alot of skill face it overwatch is an easy game till diamond, the sooner u realize that the lesser frustration u will have
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>>181718741
They should have made Doomfist a cute little white boy instead. Instead of the giant big black giga voiced by Terry Crews we all knew he'd be.
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>>181718436

HALT
*latches on to team mate*
SIE BIST SAGEN
*presses shift repeatedly*
DAS WIR WAS
*hides from team*
EINE ART VON
*flies directly at enemy team*
HELDEN STERBEN NICHT
*stays invincible*
SO ETWAS WIE
*gains SR with <50% win rate*
HOHE LEEEEEEEISTUNG
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>>181718684
I want to scream at this post so hard.
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How do you make a melee character not shit in a shooting game?
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>>181718917
Play Gigantic.
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>>181718684
This bait gave me cancer
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>>181718597

I dont understand why people think underpicked underperforming heroes like torb or sym are cancer

But heroes in every single game being far more powerful (like genji tracer soldier) are ok

Is it just psychology? People are normalised to think that the offense heroes are fine because they're seen so much, but that frustrating attack on a point guarded by sym and torb is that much more memorable?
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>>181716236
git gud faggot
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>>181715432
>git gud zen post
All good points, but consider in the current meta that there are infinite numbers of Winstons on both sides.
Zen gets splatted 1v1 by a Winston so you don't want to stray too far from your tanks/other support.
On the other hand, harmony on your monkeyman + discord on his 200hp zap target makes it a pick every single time.
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In case nobody shared it yet:
Have some verbal healslut catfight. It's so fucking good.
https://youtu.be/aEI-nM9DwlI?t=17m34s
Roll up to 17:34, if you're not a fan of Stevie.
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>>181718985
Shitters here get stomped by them so complain because they think it's unfair.
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>>181718436

>Performance metrics

>Pick off meta hero/mercy = rank up with sub 50% winrate

>Pick meta hero
>Lose SR with a 55% winrate
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>>181718917
10hp, 140 armour, 150 shields
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>>181718985
>Symmetra isn't broken

her shield spam annoys me

her beam is nigger-tier bullshit, I can play pharah, genji, lucio fly the fuck away from her and still eat 120 dps after I'm a mile away out of line of sight

her orb does what 150~? damage it's huge and spamming it choke games can build ult charge fast.

She's just irritating
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>>181717181
Doing gods work, Nicoposter
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>>181718762
But that is comp play rather than an organized match.

I scrim'd against a team trying things like what you mentioned and we rolled them no problem and the skill difference between the teams wasn't that large. If one teams is organized dive is going to prevail simply because of how fast and efficient it operates.

The korean pro teams have always pushed the envelope on the meta and nothing new has come out of them other than junkrat main tank recently.
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>>181718917
make shooting at the melee character a deterrent kinda like zarya
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>>181719048
OH FUCK I'VE PLAYED WITH BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE!

They're both trash though thankfully Bailee can play characters other than healslut.
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>>181718421
When will it end?
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>winston cant even kill Junkrat
wtf when are they going to buff winston and nerf rat
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>>181719145
In my eyes, most of the NA pro players play 1-2 heroes only. S76 players might swap to a tracer or McCree, but generally tanks only play tanks, supports only play support. When they swap off to try something new you can tell they just don't have the same skill.
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>>181719281

W O W
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>>181718436

>Performance metrics

>Pick off meta hero/mercy = rank up with sub 50% winrate

>Pick meta hero
>Lose SR with a 55% winrate
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>>181719142
>not being able to kill sym in 2 seconds
>even as pharah
>complains about shield spam
>when its on 10 sec cd and destroys itself in 2 sec
>complains about choke spam orbs
>even as genji

I wonder who's the real nigger-tier here?
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how fuck how am I getting so fucking shit teams right now? literal shitters overextend for no reason and then get melt and we lose everything then these fuckers tilt
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>>181719142

Her orb does 100

>her beam is nigger-tier bullshit$

It has a 7 metre range and does 30 dps for the first second it latches on, shes a 200 hp hero with no mobility holy shit I'll never understand why people think shes some kind of monster
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>>181716276
rofl i can imagine that.
gotta watch it
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>>181718985
Sym and Torb are shield stacking no aim cancer,I know how to deal with them but my team spill spaghetti everywhere so I also get fucked
they make the game slower having to play around their bullshit
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>>181719504
>these fuckers tilt
*us fuckers tilt
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>>181719567
She isn't GOOD, but her beam is overpowered as fuck on some 2CP. It's fucking irritating. and you can cock suck all you want about her she is melee range and yadda yadda, fact of the matter is, you push in, she walks onto the point same as you or flanks, because she is silent like genji.
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>>181719625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icjn-gCecpQ
Her name is kat_ow btw
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>black villain
>not mexican black, not european black, not muslim black, not brazillian but delicious dark chocolate Nigerian black.
thank you, blizzard.
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Rate it

>Bastion
Reconfigure now turns you into a howitzer. Press M2 to detonate a shell while it's in mid-flight. Great damage, small area of effect.

>Reaper
Abilities are silent, have faster starting and ending animations, and can be cancelled. Wraith Form gives slightly more speed and allows flight.

>Torbjorn
Can repair buildings with his gun's M1. Armor packs replaced with a vending machine which dispenses an armor pack when smacked by an ally, restocks quickly. Molten core now upgrades a level 1 turret to level 2 (you still have to hit it 5 times to make it go to level 3

>Symmetra
Turrets can now be placed much farther away. Also all of her other shit needs to be reworked to balance that out and also because she's boring as shit, but I have no idea what to do with that.
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>>181719741
racist
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>>181719797
>Reaper
REPOSITIONING receives a 300% volume boost and will play not only in the game in which it was used, but also in 3 other games chosen at random.
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>feeling smug
>queue up with a pretty good mercy main i know
>she has good aim and we can flex if we need to
>pick Dva when she goes Mercy
>shut down enemy offense with her and spam LOL during enemy ults
this has brought out sadistic tendencies i didn't know i had

>>181719735
that's hilarious
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>>181720014

So what you're saying is that every player will think a Reaper just teleported behind them.

That's just as good.
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>Roadhog

WHY AM I TANKING 3-4x AS MUCH DAMAGE

Hitbox is FUCKED

Feels like the huge drop off he had before applies to the damage he had before, so half of 200 is 100, but his new damage the same distance is 100-30
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>>181720032
>pretty good mercy main
>she has good aim
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This Junkmain is going places
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what he fuck is the mercy meme? I lose 30 sr and win 20-25 even when I get multiple 3-4man rezzes. According to everything I should lose 10sr and gain 35sr
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>enemy team is all platinum
>we get the level 25 unranked
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>>181719735
got a link to the whole stream?
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mercy mercy mercy mercy mercy mercy
>mercy mercy mercy mercy
mercy mercy
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>>181719735
got a link to LEWDS?
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>"EASY, THEIR MERCY JUST REZ'D, PUSH THE LAST METERS"
>"HELBENSTELBERNICHT"
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I guess lack of diversity is only a problem when dive is the meta
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>>181716236
this wouldnt happen if Roadhog where here, hed stop this
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>>181720395
Its people repeating shit they read on reddit but factually have no experience with.
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>>181720170
>Dafran
it took a '''pro'''' player to throw a game live for Blizzard to address a problem majority of people have been having with the game
and they STILL havent did anything
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>>181720863
Blizzard is a chickenshit company, I doubt they'll ever actually start banning griefers. Shit, even people in CS:GO get banned for griefing thanks to overwatch no pun intended
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>>181720665
nice image, mind if save it?
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>>181720863
The funniest part is that Dafran was a fucking loser working at McDonald's before he got an incredibly good opportunity playing Overwatch only to throw it away because he wanted to be le ebin trole on stream. Hope he has fun flipping burgers for the rest of his life.
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>>181720395
you have to main mercy to game the metrics.

>>181720863
it isn't a problem. Why? because it's what human nature is.
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I've never had problems with Mercy mains desu. Most of the time they've been doing OK and haven't been causing a fuss in chat. Is this an American problem?
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>>181721194
>it's human nature to willingly ruin 5 other people's enjoyment

Are you okay pal?
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>>181721447
>BUT THEY ARE FAKIN MEEEEECY MAYNES!!!!!!!!!11111 FOKKIN EEZY CHARACTER!!111
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>>181721447

Its the fact that Lucio is better 100% of the time. So when you have a slot dedicated to mercy thats 33% more likely the second healer wont pick lucio
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>>181721529
I suppose I can see the problem with one trick ponies in comp but I'd prefer a mercy main than a dps grudgingly plays Ana because he has to
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>cannot aim worth shit
Is headshot practice in a private game vs AI the way to go?
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>>181721447
Ive been put with a few bad mercy players in EU and they were high diamond and master
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>>181721605
I personally prefer Zen over Lucio at most times
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>>181720617
someone post the /owg/ wordcloud
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>infwasight is weady
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>>181721816
If the Zen is good, sure, but at least in Diamond many Zens just don't get enough heals out.
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>>181721476
you are literally autistic if you don't think the way the game plays out, and being punished for leaving and "forced" to stay would result in anything other than griefing / throwing.
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>>181683492
>End of season 4.
>Look for a new character to main for season 5.
>Find some interesting Sombra youtubers.
>Decide to main Sombra after 10 hours of QP playing.
>Season 5 starts.
>Constantly flamed and blamed for losing games.
>Quit Sombra and decide to fill like the bitch I am.
>Fast forward to now.
>Random Sombra's appear everywhere in Competitive.
>mfw they suck more than I do and no one seems to talk shit anymore.

What has happened? These cunts are worse than I am but they don't seem to get flamed?

Is Sombra __meta__ now?
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>>181722025
no
when she is played by the best she is a support character at most
you have a right to play sombra if you want its not against the rules to play the game
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>>181721971
I usually play Winston in comp. Most of the time I prefer a mercy to an Ana so I can get reliable heals, then coordinating with the Zen so I can dive his disco balls

Lucio doesn't bring that much to my table
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>>181721447
EU Mercymains are shit. I see a ton of whiny Mercy main since the end of S3.
Diam+ are pretty bad but don't cry that often. Plat or below are whiny as fuck because they want to climb by holding M1 and crying and it's always DPS fault if they die (because they don't even follow the tank and prefer to follow me when I flank full health with edgelord instead, wew).
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>>181719281
someone post that webm
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>>181721047
Go ahead, it is all yours.
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>>181718238
i disaggree with >>181718398

i was challenger in LoL and had the same problem as in overwatch

>started playing league
>got into comp
>got stuck at mid/high plat for very long

that is where i learned most about the game and how to deal with retards on your team (aka everybody who plays league)

i upgraded my gear and focused on increasing my skill instead of just playing comp over and over again.
Watched footage of my games and what i did wrong, when i tend to panic and how people usually dodge my skillshots

>got better
>elo didnt change still stuck
>suddenly i started becoming better
>hitting more skillshots, more aware - just generally better
>stuck for like 2 months
>suddenly a couple of good teams and a winstreak
>once i was in d5 i got up to d3
>from then on slow climbing towards challenger but games were fun

i think you get stuck in elo hell not because of elo hell but simply cause you reach a pretty average skill level where it takes more then just playing the game in order to increase.

And even if you increase then you will be stuck with people who are very average so you need skill and some luck in order to get a winstreak going.

Once you are out make sure to get into the mid of the current tier you are in and you're gonna be fine

I am at the point in ow right now where i am becoming a lot better by the weeks and im often on fire and get a lot of golds

Waiting for my winstreak
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>>181714296
Give it to me, anon
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>>181719486
I LOVE YOU B.VA ANON
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>>181721971

>tfw in the fucking groove as Zeny and redirecting your orbs each second a different ally or enemy starts sustaining damage all while bip bopping mid-air Pharahs and enemy flankers who want your robot ass for dinner
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>>181721987
Are you implying you should be allowed to leave if a match isn't going the way you want it to? Are you fucking retarded?

>"WAAAH THIS MATCH IS TOO HARD"
>"better lose on purpose so I can act like I wasn't even trying, I'm better than the enemy players I swear"

Maybe there are other people in the team who aren't little babies who actually prefer giving a strong opponent a run for their money instead of throwing a tantrum and giving up.
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>>181722139
>you have a right to play sombra if you want its not against the rules to play the game

It's just a bit overwhelming being flamed by 5 other people constantly. Match in, match out. At the start of the match and at the end of the match.
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>>181684507
which streamer is that at the bottom?
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>when shitston doesnt know how to play and screams for heals all the time
why the fuck do shitters play winston when they dont even know the basics of him? you dont fucking jump in middle of enemies first on your own 1v6, get melt and try to jump back to get heals so you can attempt suicide again
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>>181722598
I do mean it literally, actually that you have autism. Being unable to empathize or understand human emotions is a big part of that. I didn't read anything past your first sentence.

The game is horribly balanced.
The matchmaking cannot be accurate due to character swapping.
Matches are determined by the weakest player, not the strongest. Exceptions where someone is way above the skill level does happen.
Some players like playing some heroes, and when they are countered, don't switch.
It is easy to tunnel.

So when you put someone in a game that is poor, they don't want to play anymore. Well, if they leave, they can't just play the next game, so, they check out. They aren't going to aggravate themselves and get more angry, exert effort and try, only for one of their teammates, perceived weaker or not, to put their foot down and stop it.

If the devs wanted to deal with griefing, they need to make the game more fun while losing.
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Sequel to Uprising when?
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>>181722892
what do you do then
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>>181722892
>when a Winston keeps diving alone into 4 full health opponents only to die and to scream "WHERE ARE YOU GUYS OMG IDIOTS"
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>>181722948
maybe play him correctly? good winstons dont need healing
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>>181683492
What does /owg/ think about maining 2 heroes per MAP instead of only maining 1-2 in total or always filling?

I always find myself playing a certain hero on said map. I also use the same hero more on the same gamemode.
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>play Ana
>walk behind our Rein
>sleep a sneaky Soldier behind myself
>Start spamming "Group up"
>Rein turns around and precisely chargers him to a wall
>Says Thank you
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>>181723095
This tbqh. If you keep jumping into fights you can't win/escape alone as Winston you're doing something wrong.
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>be playing dva in comp
>doing alright, but not gaining sr
>play some pharah
>have like 4x less playtime compared to dva
>absolutely destroy the enemies
>even when they go widow/mcree/s76

I used to think she wasn't op, but now I see it. You can sit half way across the map and deal huge chip damage without being more than tickled by the enemy. It's like I could feel the enemy's tilt and them probably screaming at each other to kill the goddamn pharah. I feel like I'm making this game not fun for people because I kill squishies 10 sec after they spawn and they can't do shit about it.
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>>181723095
>>181723194
winston is for initiating

he's probably gonna die in most pushes, or just barely get saved by his team. but when everyone is looking at him, you're entire team can walk in and FRAG
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>>181721971
>>181722149
>>181721816

You guys do realize lucio can pump out 47 health per second to himself and all 5 of his teammates with amp right? Never mind he's literally the only hero in the game that can buff your movement speed in a game where mobility is absolute king and trumps every other mechanic.

And thats not even mentioning his own damage contribution, innate slipperiness and difficulty to kill, and the 4 second cooldown damaging knockback he can use to fuck with the enemy team constantly

The hero is a god. Mercy healings for 60 hp/s on a single target, only 13 more than lucio during amp, and she doesn't deal damage, knockbacks, or heal the rest of her team and herself at the same time while doing it.

And for when you need more focused healing on a single target to keep them alive, thats what the second healer is for like zen or ana. But never make the mistake of thinking "Lucio doesn't bring as much as this other hero"

Because the statement is literally never true
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>mercy
>enemy roadhog pulls off a nice 20m hook
>half health
>team melts him while he Es

why did blizzard do this, im even sad for him
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>>181721447
It's a "my favorite streamer and all my fellow redditors cry about Mercy so I will do the same to feel like part of the crowd" thing

We've already established that the only people crying about her can't play flankers/Winston which are her counters, and therefore they are bad and need to expand their hero pool
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>>181722139
Stop watching youroverwatch

Sombra is not a fucking support and you're retarded if you think you'll win games like that with the general populace of Overwatch
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>>181723557
>Entire hero was based around displacing and assassinating heroes
>Completely remove his ability to assassinate heroes

NICE JOB BLIZZARD MASTERS AT BALANCING
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>>181723095
t. YourOverwatch

I hope you're just retarded
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>tfw an enemy escapes with a sliver of health comes back healed up and kills you.
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>>181723557
>be dva
>walk around corner amd see hog
>back up
>reaper walks around corner instead and gets hooked
>don't even bother dming my reaper because I know he's going to melt roadhog and come out with full HP

I can smell the hog buffs incoming. Hooking a reaper is no different from jumping off a cliff, except the enemy get a lot of ult charge.
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How the fuck am I supposed to climb when every second game I run into some ass one-trick player who won't switch off his shit champion.

Help me owg i just recently started playing.
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181724029
>
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>>181724029
>How the fuck am I supposed to climb
You're not. First focus on actually getting better at the game yourself, then you can talk about your teammates and ranking up.
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>>181723557

He will get buffed soon for sure.
It will be in the same patch that completely guts dive comp though and Roadhog with some more "antidive" heroes that will receive buff along with the nerfs on dive heroes and will be the next completely dominant meta than no one can touch, because blizzard is retarded like that.
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>>181723557

Blizzard needs to do bigger patches with more across the board changes. This feather touches every month aren't doing anything but pushing heroes out of comp or slightly into it

This roadhog nerf needed to be accompanied by some retouches in other areas. The bastion changes needed more work other than "oop he to strong oop hes shit again oh well leave it there I guess"
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>>181724231
how do i improve
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>>181723901

>when mercy flies away with 1 hp and you can't hit her in the next second
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>>181724029
>how am I supposed to climb
>recently started playing

this. don't start playing comp until you know where all the healthpacks/flanks are amd have at least 5 hours on at least 3 heros. even if you get onetricks on your team they probably still play better than you because they know the game better. just don't be a noob who flames his team when you have less than 50 hrs in the game.
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>>181724393
Watch pro player streams
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>>181724371
I don't understand why they are so scared of changing stuff more drastically.
Even if it never leaves the PTR.
Why not try buffing some characters that are F tier since the beginning of the game?
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>>181724417
>when about to kill mercy as winston and she's down to 5 hp......
>auto reloads tickle canon
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>>181724686
>melee
wow that was hard
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>>181724287
>It will be in the same patch that completely guts dive comp
Why do people act as if Dive was never in use before Road's nerf?
You know if you simply call out who you're hooking for others to focus the last sliver of health it's the same effect, right?
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>>181724029
>champion
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>>181724686
Why didn't you just melee her?
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Is there a better Torbjorn map than Volkskaya?
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>Someone criticizes me for picking widow on lunar colony
>And genji on defense

>The same person plays Junkrat on the same game and says "bastion is a legit pick on this map"
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How are we supposed to defend the first point on lunar colony.
I litteraly had a comp of 5 dps with zen solo heal and we went through the the first point easy
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New Thread:
>>181725115
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>Dorado attack Symm

>Silver elims, silver objective kills

>carried through point A

>maximum shield gen uptime


>get blamed for loss
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>>181724436
i started playing a month ago. i know all the maps besides eichenwalde and lunar.

>>181724450
i do watch seagull because thats who everyone recommends. i play mostly winston, pharah and lucio.

i do well in most of my matches, make sure their backline is disrupted and whatnot, but where im currently at its pretty chaotic and im just not sure how to go at it anymore.

and is it just me or is low elo filled with squeakers?
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>>181724967
numbani
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>>181722149
>koth
>not picking lucio over Mercy
there's health packs every where, and you should be playing around cover or from high ground anyway

>>181722025
Koreans started using that's why, plus her damage is reliable now. People like to say she's a support but you shouldn't waste a support slot for her. She's a proper flanker but she's like Winston and does slow consistent damage instead of burst damage so she needs someone to finish off her kills, unless your tracking is stellar.

If you shot call with her you can kill their back line pretty quickly even with a mediocre genji or tracer. She can do Winston's job so she's better on defense if you're running dive against a dive. that way the Winston can stay near his healers to protect from enemy flankers. That's kind of the basic way the Koreans use her, and even if the dive anticipates and targets the flankers instead of the healers tracer and sombra are pretty much undivable and can re-position instantly.
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>>181724450
this guy is joking. watching pro players won't make you better, playing the damn game will. that's like watching nba and expecting that to make your fatass better at basketball. just play the game and learn how the characters' abilities interact with each other and be aware of your positioning and whatnot.
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Doomfist next week?
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>>181724794
I'm not implying that Hog is the reason. I'm just saying Hog is a way to counter dive.
Dive comp heroes will get changes soon and at the same time anti dive comp heroes will get buffed, making them completely dominant.
Exactly how it slowly happened to make what we have now the only viable comp in high levels of skill play.
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>>181725368

>This

The only way to git gud is to put in the time and pay attention to what is happening on the map.
>>
2 matches in and both had leavers on my team.
Great fucking start to the day.
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>>181725592
Can I get good at this game by playing Kingdom Hearts 2 instead
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>>181725368
You're not gonna get much better by only playing against people of similar skill level. You should watch people who play better than you to see how they do it. Of course in the end you'll have to do the shit yourself, but I thought that goes without saying.
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>>181725663

All the leavers got on at the same time for me yesterday.

Early in the day it was great then later on they just started coming one after another.
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>>181725717

Yes.
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It is difficult to win games when dps are not getting any dps done. Having silver elims and dmg as winston is not acceptable when there are 3 dps on my team. I no medals dont matter but I shouldnt have any medals as there are three dps players
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>>181725942
Good because Saïx is being a bitch
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>>181726037
>jump into enemy team like an asshole
>take out 2 supports and die
>leave the rest of my team to clean up the mess
>complain
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>>181725805
but pro teams are that, FUCKING TEAMS. Anyone who is below masters does not know how to play with a full team who have mastered their roles. Playing the game does a lot more than watching streams. Think of it this way, the only people who are better than seagull are the ones not watching his streams and ACTUALLY PUTTING TIME IN THE GAME.
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>>181726037

>Dps not dps'ing

My last match of the night. Played Symm. 2 gold medals on ilios and still lost. Thats when I decided to call it a night.
>>
STOP

MAKING ME LOSE

NOW I DEMAND IT OR YOULL FUCKING PAY

YOU WILL FUCKING PAY

10 LOSSES I NMA ROW = 10 FUCKING HEADS

YOU WILL STOP MAKING ME LOSE OR I WILL FUCKING HAVE MY REVENGE

LAST CHANCE
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POTG calculation is so broken
>be zarya on Lijang
>Last round, genji + me have ult up
>Steamroll point, wait for their next push
>OGON PO GOTOVNOSTI
>Weebblade engaged, gets 3 kills
>potg is the same genji rightclicking in the general direction of baby dva and mercy, killing them 8 seconds apart
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>>181726182
is that you? I dont die often but it's alright if you are shit
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>>181726395
God shut the fuck up, retard. They stream regular high ranked competitive as well where they solo q. Are you fucking dumb or what?
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>>181726395
>>181725805

Thinking you are gonna git gud by watching pro streams is retarded.

If you are already good you might learn some advancef tricks of the trade but otherwise its like saying I watch Tom Brady play for the Patriots every week so I should be goos at playing quarterback.

Muscle memory and saying "ok this is where I got ambushed last time. Better not go there" is how you get gud.
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>leavers in last three games
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>>181726478
>still playing Overwatch
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>>181726861
the way you talk and the fact that you watch streams I'm going to bet that are a child. grow up kid
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>>181726923
>Muscle memory and saying "ok this is where I got ambushed last time. Better not go there" is how you get gud.
That's retarded. Are you actually planning on learning everything from trial and error? Do you not understand how experience can be passed on? What rank are you, out of curiosity?
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>>181687317
thx for those clips. gave me a nice laugh
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>>181687317

Holy shit I'm rolling.
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>play mccree
>zen on team just knows which targets to discord
I dont think i've ever had bad experiences with people who play monkbot
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>>181727678

> Are you actually planning on learning everything from trial and error?

That question right there shows how brain dead you are. Nothing beats experience.
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>>181728329
Having fun with those gold border players in platinum? They must have all the experience.
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>>181728637

I'm going to tell you that I am between silver and gm and I will also tell you the gm players I know irl dont watch streams. They just play a lot.
>>
You guys know you can play a lot and watch streams too, right? That way you develop mechanical skill and experience but also get to see high level play to see if there's things they are doing that you are not, which you can then steal.
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>win a nice game with a friendly 4 stack
>next game shitters and one leaves after first round
>in total lose 15sr
fairly balanced match making
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>>181728637

So yeah. These gm's are people that I know actually out in the real world. Not intetnet forum grand masters pulling shit out of their ass. They dont give a shit about streams.
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made it to gold on my own. How hard would it be to make it to 4,000 on my own?
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>>181729529
Why did you quote me again as if I give a shit?
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>>181729232
I hate plat and dia for this reason. One match might be really nice, well balanced teams with communication and team then the next game is filled with absolute shitters with zero game sense, no team work, no communication no mechanical skills and it feels like you are gambling whether your team is the better solo rambo shitters or not
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>>181729695

>Hurr I was just pretending.
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>>181729891
Not really. I just don't care about your stories. You're not worth talking to.
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Why do they always leave the point to go fight 1v1s all around the map?
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>playing a game
>start popping off on the zen
>he uses tranquility
>game crashes
>okay
>load up another game
>okay
>start popping off
>our zen uses tranquility
>game crashes
OKAY???????
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Did they really stealth nerf Rein's firestrike? Because it sure feels like it.
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>>181730413
How so?
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>>181730536

By making the hitbox smaller. It used to have the width of a refrigerator but it doesn't seem that way anymore.
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>>181730413
Rein as a whole is "stealth nerfed" because he's so fucking bugged as a character. His swings and ult don't do anything until the animation completes so people can just walk straight through his hammer or his ult and not have any negative effects.
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>>181730836

That's insane if they did that. If anything Fire Strike should be buffed. That thing should do an AOE explosion on impact that knocks people back like a Pharah rocket.
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>>181730994

>charge turret mode Bastion

>Their Winston lands in front of him.

>Pin the Winstion while Bastion goes ethereal.
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Rein needs a complete rework at this point.
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>>181732075
He needs bugfixes.
>>
new thread where
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>>181723095
t. Freedo
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>>181733045
t. 10 deaths every game
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is there a avoid this player feature in overwatch?
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