/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #519

Would it be okay to have a trans character as a protagonist for season 2?

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Happy 4th of July, fellow Americans! Let your cuteposts fly and light up the sky like fireworks.

BFFs, Pirates, Wonder Twins, Partners in Time & Crime & Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

>>181583256
>Beer?
Yuck!

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>>181583686
Can you actually post oc, I've seen this hundreds of times already

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post dorks

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>>181583746
OC is pretty hard if you've been here a while

>>181583608

As player: if you're more invested in Chloe and Max and Chloe's relationship than anything else and if you've come to care for Chloe deeply over the course of the game then you do that

or

As Max (as player roleplaying as Max): Max literally says at the end "you're all that matters to me" and she's talking about Chloe not Arcadia Bay. By that point Max has saved Chloe from death at least five times, has seen her get killed by Nathan and Jefferson, has potentially euthanized her herself and I and most people here agree that Max would have been in state of mind of "I must protect Chloe, I must save Chloe, I won't let anything happen to Chloe".

There's also the problem that, if you sacrifice Chloe Max has to live with that choice for the rest of her life and I don't think she'd be able to. I genuinely think she'd kill herself at some point in the future.

OTOH if you have town it's clear not everyone dies. Sure, a lot of people die, but not everyone and it's implied Joyce and David and the Blackwell students all survive.

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Max is #1

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>>181583945
Where is this implied?

>threadly reminder that lewd-posting is acceptable with a dose of cuteness

>>181583669
>fat and not cute Max

The Chloe cosplayer actually gets Chloe's general vibe and look so she's really good, though.

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>>181583746
that will force me to post very lewd stuff which obviously can't be posted here.

>>181584063
By seeing where the tornado went and where it didn't vent.

>>181583945
You realize you'd be putting at least dozens of people through the pain you don't want Max to experience right? Also, its not implied that anyone survives, its just not implied directly that they die.

Yeah I'm definitely going to make that "Defending the Bae ending" video. Not really to convince others to choose Bae, not to debunk Bay, but to just defend and explain why we chose Bae.
I'm tired of constantly repeating myself and I only been here for a month. Some of you must be even more exhausted.
If such video already exists, please let me know.

>>181584072
>she's

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>>181584301
It's not you playing as yourself though. You gain a better experience playing and thinking like Max, who would certainly choose Chloe

>>181583549
Oh shit it is actually Fourth of July. Happy 4th of July then Americans.

Now for the important question: how would Max and Chloe spend 4th of July? I like to imagine them making out in the dark lying on the grass in the backyard as fireworks go off above them and they go off on the ground. While, at the same time, clueless parents are looking for where they disappeared.

>>181584301
at that moment max has no proof at all that sacrificing chloe will stop the storm

theres also literally no reason she needs to make the choice then and there; why not wait even a few hours to assess the damage before deciding her bestfriend/girlfriend has to die? why not use all the photos she's collected throughout the game to go back and warn people? theres so many other options max could have taken before simply letting chloe die

since max still has time travel, really the only thing you are setting in stone in the ending is that max will never let chloe die, thats why she destroys the picture

>>181584063
>she screamed

even if you're a heathen and don't think Chloe's in love with her I just don't see Chloe screaming if someone groped her.

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>>181583608
This more or less explains why I would sacrifice the town no matter how airtight the time-travel logic is

>>181584090
Can you post it on another board then? I'd like to see

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>>181584436
I posted this two threads ago when someone asked (Sorry if you're the same person):

Family BBQ at the Price house.
David and Ryan cook some burgers and sausages on the grill, Vanessa does sides, Joyce does desserts. Max and Chloe help however they can. Chloe makes sure there's a good mix of drinks for everyone: beer for herself and the men, twisters for the moms, some nice wine for Max.
After the food, they all go up to the Lighthouse cliff and watch the fireworks going on down in the town. Max gets some really nice pictures throughout the day and night.

I still like the answer so that's what I'm going to believe they're doing for the holiday.

>>181583549
>>181584436
its not actually 4th of july anywhere in america yet, freedom will ring in about an hour on the east coast

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>>181583256
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it

>>181584301
Problem with sacrifice Chloe ending is that Max is using her powers to alter space and time to fix the universe... that is raging because Max has been using her powers to alter space and time. There's no proof or reason to assume that if she lets Chloe get killed it won't all go to hell again anyway because Max keeps using her powers.

On the other hand the ending where you sacrifice Arcadia Bay is basically letting nature get back into balance by blowing itself out until it can't no more, it's the more natural action. After that the time and all the alternate realities will be in balance.

>>181585014
The photo also takes her to a timeline where she's already used time travel, even if we for some reason excuse the photojump.

>>181584591
I mean there are definitely clues pointing towards Chloe's continued existence effecting the worlds stability. Her incredibly bad luck, with bullets hitting of cars and bouncing back at her and her almost getting killed like three times a day. Even if you assume the storm itself is just a storm, all the other impossible events, like the two moons or all those whales washing up on the bay's beach, indicate that Max's use of her powers might be damaging the fabric of reality.

This sucks and I'm not surprised considering the shit they make now days.

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Somebody had fun on Max's wiki page.

>>181585265
I still fail to see the logic in the idea that her powers are fucking up the fabric of reality so the solution is to use them again

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Rachel's family secret is...

>>181584707
I like it, it's normal and mundane and yet happy. Which is kind of LiS when it's not being super depressing. Only... why would they be at the Arcadia Bay still? Is this prior to the ending of the game or is this in rebuilt Arcadia Bay after the storm?

>>181585281
Ironic, because this game pushes the boundaries of the medium

>>181585498
That she is straight

>>181585498
They're all gay. Even the parents. Even the grandparents.

>>181585292
I don't recall some of these such as King Max or Max Cockfield.

>>181584684
they're all pretty much in /u/

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As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

Do you guys want rachel to have powers? I feel like without powers that somehow explain it, she's sort of just mary sue that everyone loves

http://www.strawpoll.me/13351209

>>181585014
But you'd be assuming things about your time travel then as well. You're assuming that the negative repercussions for Max's use of her power are linked to any use of her power, even what little she did before entering the bathroom instead of saving Chloe specifically, and you're also assuming that Chloe living beyond the destruction of arcadia bay won't just lead to more even greater destruction.
>>181585446
Because its not her using her powers that causes damage to reality, its her changing things with her power. If she goes back in time and stops herself from ever making all the huge changes she made with her powers then there shouldn't be a problem, yes?

>>181585920
>Do you guys want rachel to have powers?
They've confirmed she doesn't have powers already. No one will have powers in BtS but mystic shit will still occasionally happen.

Their argument is pretty irrefutable, too. If Rachel had had powers Chloe would have said something when Max told her she also has powers.

That said, in the preview gameplay when Chloe and Rachel are at the junkyard Rachel clearly can't stay and there's clearly something going on there. I don't think Rachel is enough of a bad person to hurt Chloe like that, especially right after Chloe had a very emotional outpouring of her feelings. Rachel still going away and saying "I can't stay" is very suspicious. Initially I thought it was connected to powers but then I read the dev quote that there won't be powers so now I don't know.

>>181584335
Not that I know of, but best of luck in you in your noble endeavor.
/lisg/ really is a wonderful place. At the time I played, I seriously thought everyone died in the storm and I was a wreck over that and just the fact the game was over. But this place helped me heal and discuss stuff to see how things realistically would be.
As fun as speculating between episodes was, this place has very much become a support group of sorts. As well as a place for Pricefield and friends as it always has been.
I love /lisg/.

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Sorry Chloe, Arcadia Bay comes first. You're totally right. There's no way we can possibly be wrong about this. Even though we're safe at the lighthouse, I need to go back in time right now to let you die because suddenly I have decided to save everybody else and let you die. So I'm going to use my time powers, that is causing the storm, to go back in time again, to enter a point of time where I have already altered the past and already had the vision of the tornado already,to get rid of the storm. Even though 5 minutes ago, I said that I can't keep fixing everything when all I'm going to do is keep breaking it over and over again. Even though I already let the storm hit the town when I was in San Francisco and the primary reason why I'm even here is because of you, I care more about the people of Arcadia Bay now. Yes, I said it was destiny to save you but now I'm going to let you die and reset the entire week we had together in order to save the lives of people whom I didn't bother warning them about the storm.
Thank you Chloe, for teaching me life lessons that I didn't really need to know because I was doing just fine before I got the powers. I finally learned that I need to let you go even though we haven't talked to each other in 5 years before this week and I didn't even know it was you who I saved until later. Now time to save hicktown.

>>181586126
no, they just keep specifying CHLOE wont have powers, they could hint at rachel having them in ways Chloe wouldnt pick up on but that we would

>>181585989
in the original timeline, max jumps out and yells when chloe is shot, no telling what would have happened then, maybe nathan shot her too

by hiding and doing nothing max is still making a large change

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>>181585509
Oh. I was thinking in real time so it's over three years of Max and Chloe being together and after the storm.
everyone has gotten counseling, Chloe and her family have grown closer together, Max's parents see Chloe like another daughter, and all the physical damage from the storm has been fixed.

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>>181586192
Realistically everyone would have died in the storm man. Pic related is what destruction caused by a category five hurricane looks like. Arcadia Bay should have been fucking dust.

Arguing the minutiae of the time travel and storm is a bad mistake if you're defending Bae. It concedes from the beginning that there IS some combination of logic in which you SHOULD kill Chloe to save the town, moving the argument into their court.

Obviously all the plot-holes and lapses in the time-travel logic should be in this 'Bae Ending' video but I think the more fundamental argument is the endless promises throughout the game that Max will never leave Chloe and will stop at absolutely nothing to save her, and vice versa.

I have found something that it's worse than the plebbit sub or LiS threads on /v/.

Steam forums
Seriously

>>181586334
But obviously she doesn't because the storm doesn't come to destroy the bay. Not sure why the possibility of her actions after making the choice effecting things even though its immediately confirmed that they don't should change my opinion on the choice in the first place.

>>181586290
>Sorry Chloe, Arcadia Bay comes first.
>Arcadia Bay comes first.

Too bad Max doesn't think like you.

>>181586126
Rachel's still a mystery and I don't think they will confirm or deny that she has any power.
They could definitely hint to it by showing stuff like Rachel knowing answers to things, knowing something was about to happen, or just acting a little odd. Without Chloe having any information about a power then she would just think it's Rachel being Rachel.
Chloe only knows about the rewind because Max goes out of her way to tell her and prove it to her. If Rachel kept it a secret then Chloe wouldn't have any idea.

>>181586334
That's a good point as well, that Max doesn't know what would happen. It may have been possible that Chloe would survive being shot, it would have been possible that she was supposed to be shot as well, or it could have been possible that the storm would still come as it was.
The entirety of the Bay Ending is Max taking a gamble with everything. And when the wager is Chloe's life, that is simply too risky for Max to agree to.

What if Rachel sacrificed herself to save Chloe's life?

>>181586595
The butterfly still shows up in the bay ending though, implying the storm is just delayed

>>181586494
I'd pick bay even if there was 100% proof everyone but max and chloe died and god himself told max her powers caused it, i just enjoy arguing with bayfags

>>181586457
And that's not at all what Arcadia Bay looked like. Tornadoes are classified solely by the damage and the one in the game would be an EF 2 or 3 at the most. I don't care what was intended since they failed to properly show it, or show anything. They said to use imagination to decide and so I did.
Most people in the town survived, including Chloe's family.

>>181586710
>Chloe only knows about the rewind because Max goes out of her way to tell her and prove it to her. If Rachel kept it a secret then Chloe wouldn't have any idea.
To be fair that's a good point. I can kind of see Max's powers being unnerving to Chloe since she never knows if Max rewound time or is did something change or not. I think if it wasn't Max, someone she completely and utterly trusts, Chloe would be pretty freaked out by the prospect of powers like that.

>>181586881
>The butterfly still shows up in the bay ending though, implying the storm is just delayed
?????????

>>181586881
I'd still pick bae*, what an unfortunate typo

>>181586710
>It may have been possible that Chloe would survive being shot

this was literally the original bay ending, chloe was in a coma in a hospital; they scrapped that idea fairly late, but still used the hospital room model for visiting kate

>>181586870
Rachel was tortured and then killed by Jefferson. I don't know how that translates to sacrificing herself for Chloe. I guess if she has psychic powers she might have stepped in for Chloe at a crucial moment and saved Chloe that way but, at the same time, if you have psychic powers wouldn't you rather report the guy to the police or try and save yourself and Chloe?

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>>181586915
The difference between 15 and 100 people being sacrificed doesn't make the choice any better.

>>181587176
Is that random website canon?

>>181587176
>tfw I got Jefferson for my spirit character

>>181587336
It was uploaded by the official LiS youtube channel and it supports my beliefs so I'm gonna say yes definitely

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>>181586494
That's true.
The way I see it the argument for why I chose Bae comes down to it's what Max had been working towards and what Chloe deserved. The thought of Max being left alone with everything she knew, and of Chloe dying in that way, was simply unacceptable to me. That was a choice I made before the final episode was even out and I know others here did as well.
During the game itself I wasn't thinking of plotholes or other possible causes of the storm, I was thinking about Max and Chloe. For all I knew in that moment, everyone else really did die but I saw that as what the game had been building towards.

It's after playing and some time discussing here that all the other stuff like the plotholes, other possibilities, and how Max could go back to warn more people became apparent. Which logically would disprove the Bay Ending as being possible or useful to the extent of helping the characters avoid some kind of terrible fate.

For such a video, perhaps breaking it up into two parts would be best. The first, and move emphasized, part being about Max's love for Chloe and dedication to saving her from death or pain. A promise to stay with her and not abandon her again. Using only what Max feels and knows in that moment.
The second part being delving into the metagaming aspects like how the storm was always shown to be coming, Max cannot go back to a point before using her powers, and what could happen to the characters in that ending which may be even worse than what the storm would have done. Using info we as outsiders and observers can see and know.


In any, and all, cases: BAE > bay.

>>181587467
>it supports my beliefs
ya ok I'm willing to accept that

>>181587104
Where are people getting this 'tortured' thing with Rachel and Max? Being drugged and photographed is immoral, illegal, and disturbing, but it seems inaccurate to call it 'torture'. 'Jefferson tortured Rachel' makes it sound like he ripped her fingernails off and did some Rape of Nanking type shit to her.

>>181587487
Did all of the people who died in the town deserve to die?

>>181587487
>During the game itself I wasn't thinking of plotholes or other possible causes of the storm, I was thinking about Max and Chloe. For all I knew in that moment, everyone else really did die but I saw that as what the game had been building towards.
This is a perfect description of how it was for me too. At the final choice I genuinely believed 'Sacrifice the Bay' meant every single person dies and 'Sacrifice Chloe' was absolutely certain to stop it, but I didn't hesitate to sacrifice the Bay. I just thought... why the fuck would we spend 15 hours saving her but draw the line here?

>>181587734
Honestly if you see that giant fucking tornado slowly moving towards you and then ignore the evacuation warnings, yeah you probably deserved it

>>181587969
Because drawing the line at the murder of large groups of humans is a good place to draw the line at. Like the line should generally be a bit closer then that even.

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I want to KISS Max Caulfield

>>181588156
We know, Chloe.

>>181588009
Guess Joyce deserved to die in the time line where we saw her die. What a stupid cunt, not trying to outrun a hurricane on foot.

>>181588094
The ending of the game is just the Trolley Problem made epic and grand. You arent a murderer no matter what choice you make.

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>>181588094
Murder isn't factoring in here. Unless you're unironically going for the 'Max = murderer' meme from pic related

>>181587206
It's not about numbers. It's about loyalty and conviction.
Besides, what gives Max the right to choose who lives and who dies? That's playing God and apparently that's frowned upon.
She's always believed the storm was coming so even if she linked her power to it, she wouldn't see any reason to think she would stop it.
If she storms happens then that's just how things were, whoever lives and dies will do so because of their own choices and actions. Max going back is knowingly sending Chloe to her death.
And with the idea being hammered into her head that "Messing with time is bad" then why would she want to go back days in time and make a big change?

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>>181588257
>drawing the line at causing the deaths of large groups of humans is a good place to draw the line at. Like the line should generally be a bit closer then that
Is that better?

>>181586573
oh yes. those are just pure shit

>>181588156
Calm down, Chloe.

>>181587734
No one deserved to die, except for possibly Jefferson. Though him rotting in prison is much better. But storms happen and people do sometimes die in them.
I believe that most people, including Joyce and David, would survive since we don't specifically see how the final timeline plays out.
I think you're wrong to try to pin the potential deaths of others on Max as if she's personally signing their death warrants. It's a storm, they happen naturally and one could have came at any time with equal results.

>>181588490
I'm not quite sure what's going on but they do look good in suits.
Also pupper Pompidou is super cute.

>>181588252
>The ending of the game is just the Trolley Problem made epic and grand.

I wouldn't even call this a ''trolley problem''
Every single person was able to evacuate the town, it's not like the roads disappeared. There were bunkers. There were safe zones like the lighthouse, the hospital.

It's a trolley problem where the only person tied to the tracks is Chloe and everyone else is just lying there like a retard perfectly able to stand up and go away from danger.

>>181588423
Going back in time and stopping herself from ever making changes to time stops all of the repercussions for her having made those changes.
Not even gonna talk about this loyalty and conviction shit. As if loyalty should override morality. If you're mom tells you to strangle a baby, you gotta do cause loyalty right?
>>181588647
Except she caused the fucking storm, even if she didn't know she was doing it that is what happened.

>>181588958
>As if [x] should override morality
We've found the problem. Anon is spooked.

>>181588890
Over here buddy>>181588224
Hurricanes move faster then a running human, not to mention how dangerous it would be just trying to navigate the roads.

>>181586494
I will bring up those plot holes and inconsistency in the video I will make but I will stress that they are not the main reasons why we choose Bae. Those points just reinforce it.

I think such video should be a collab.

>>181588495
Lets put it like this: There is a storm coming that will hit your town, possibly killing hundreds of people, but someone has put the idea in your head that maybe, just maybe, killing [insert the person you love most in the world] will stop the storm. You have no solid proof of this, and in fact have seen several instances where this proves not to be true. Do you take the chance? Do you gamble your loved one's life? Are you a murderer or directly at fault in any of the deaths if you say no and keep them alive?

>>181588958
She sees her first vision of the storm before any use of her powers. That more than anything makes me think she DIDNT cause it

Well, that and the cut content where Nathan straight up screams "The storm is coming, you're all going to die!" proving he knew about it ahead of time

>>181589163
>Cut content
If Max saving Chloe didn't cause the storm then why does Max going back in time and allowing Chloe to die stop the storm from coming?

>>181588958
>Except she caused the fucking storm

There is still, to this day, not 100% proof that Max caused the tornado, especially when we look at the cut content implying the Precotts too received powers or had the gift of foresight and knew the tornado was coming

>>181589249
Any number of reasons. We have no proof at all that Chloe's DEATH stopped the storm. In fact, bringing up cut content again, we have proof to the opposite effect.

Literally any of the things that happened in the aftermath of Chloe getting shot could have been the things that the storm hinges on. Most likely Nathan and Jefferson getting exposed and arrested, considering the Prescott's connections to the storm, which are made evident even in the non cut content

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the Bay ending doesn't even make sense and it's impossible to re-create the original timeline using the game's own rules and logic. Ignoring the questionable logic that using the very tool that is causing the the storm would make the storm disappear....
1. Max is entering a point of time where the timeline is already altered.
2. Max has no idea what Original Timeline Max does when Chloe gets shot making it impossible to re-create the OT.
3. OT Max would have the same vision she has in the beginning of the game
4. Max can save Chloe without using rewind. Break the alarm.
5. Chloe gets shot by Jefferson. Storm doesn't go away. Bathroom event never happens in William alive timeline. Storm doesn't go away. So Chloe can't be the key to the storm. Rewind/time hopping is.
6. Going with Bae ending, Max can still choose to go back in time at anytime and think of a better solution to deal with the storm. Her powers won't go away. She can use other photos to go back and warn people of the storm and save Chloe at the same time. They were "safe" at the lighthouse.
7. Max gains the power of seeing a girl get shot that she doesn't even recognize. If she ever experiences such a traumatic event, she would probably gain the power (again).

>>181589561
>CUT content
as in
>A storyline that was cut from the game
Why would nathen getting arrested stop the Prescott's magical storm summoning spell that there is no evidence of?

>>181589163
Again, throw out the 'might' and 'maybe' in the first place.
What kind of person would watch their own lover or child die to save a town? I would certainly be disturbed if a parent or SO told me "Hey, if I had to choose between you and the town we're in, I'd choose the town"
A lot of bay people seem convinced that bae is some cherrypicked or motte-and-bailey morality; it's just because of 'muh pricefield'; it comes from a state of akrasia; etc. Really, if you told me 'a random man in India has to choose between letting his wife die or town die', I would expect him to pick the wife every time.

I'm amazed at how many people are stuck in this middle-school utilitarianism. Have they simply never loved somebody?

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>>181589725
Maybe papa prescott delayed it so he could focus on his fuckup son for a few days

Also, Nathan's father opened his eyes to some unpleasant destiny, was responsible for the arcadia bay bomb shelter boom, nathan listens to whale songs inexplicably, and the dark room is straight up called the stormbreaker bunker

Theres quite a bit of hinting the Prescotts are involved with the storm even ignoring cut content

>>181588958
So accidents now mean criminal guilt?
Max didn't ask for any power and if changing time is what caused the storm, then why would going back and changing time again be any better? She has no proof of that and has seen that even with Chloe dead, the storm is still coming.

>Not even gonna talk about this loyalty and conviction shit
Of course you aren't because your entire argument hinges on some robotic way of thinking that refuses to see humans as anything more than numbers.

>>181589936
They don't care about Max and see the whole thing as some morality test like they're being judged by some observer.

what hurts the most about the game to me is that it could have been a million times better. I love the characters, love the setting, love the mood, but the storm plot is so poorly hashed out and the choice system is really badly executed.

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>>181590637
Honestly, the storm and the time travel add very little to the story, beyond the time travel boosting Max's confidence. They could have made some small changes and removed supernatural elements entirely and lost very little

>>181590135
That's kind of funny though because the "humans" in the game are literally a bunch of 1s and 0s

>>181590637
yes, the storm was a mistake. Max even forgets about it until the gallery scene lol and they expect us to believe Max would choose to kill Chloe.

>>181590637
The choice system was decent with most being similar because that's just the kind of person Max is (Very few 'good' or 'evil' choices). But I agree with you entirely about the storm.
Its inclusion was a mistake that took the focus away from the characters and I would have much rather seen ending based on them than some outside force.
LiS's strengths were on the human aspects and the supernatural elements were there to support that. Which is why Max's power is not explained fully. And which is also why making the ending focused on the supernatural was a huge mistake.

>>181590016
What motive could the prescotts have in destroying Arcadia Bay? If they knew that the storm was coming why did they allow Mr. Jefferson to turn their storm breaker into a photography set?
>>181590135
>So accidents now mean criminal guilt?
Thats what manslaughter is genius. Even then, the law isn't some perfect set of super ethics that we should treat like the bible.
>Its ok to do monstrous things if its for someone you love
lol
>>181590340
>Morality doesn't matter if no one knows about your actions
I am having a fucking stroke

>>181590754
Probably. The murder mystery was enough alone to drive the story. The rewind is a gimmick that realky does nothing since you can only go back in one conversation. It's just like any other choice based game except it specifically tells you the consequence. And in the end the choices really mean nothing.

>>181591026
>What motive could the prescotts have in destroying Arcadia Bay?

Clear out the rabble and then replace destroyed buildings with Pan Estates

>mfw I have dozens of images from /lisg/ open in tabs that I hadn't saved dating back to from just before the BtS announcement and Windows 10 reboots overnight to install updates BEFORE IT SAID IT WAS GOING TO
Someone please shoot me in the face with a shotgun.

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>>181591026
>Morality doesn't matter
Fixed that. It's a spook.
A confused, self-contradictory set of claims about reality that changes by the year and by the agent. Basic shared desires and passions mistook for anything but the purely mechanistic phenomenon they are.

>>181591154
And the bunker? If they planned on using that to ride out their evil rich people storm why weren't they there when the storm was happening?

>>181591405
I would assume they have a better bunker under their home. The Dark Room seemed like a fairly recently built one, since you find the invoice inside. Maybe built specifically for Jefferson

>>181591372
So do you think people should just do whatever results in them being as happy as possible? Is it ok for people to steal and rape because they find that emotionally fulfilling? Or because they're happier when they have more money? Is it only ok to disregard the humanity of others if you happen to be in love?

>>181590695
Sleep tight Baefriend!

>>181590859
Yeah. Max herself seems to think the storm was stopped or something because she never mentions it in that timeline.
Making it the focus of the ending was a very poor decision and by how so many people chose to kill Chloe, it shows how easily swayed a lot of people are.

Out of curiosity, what kind of endings would /lisg/ liked to have seen?
During the game itself I was anticipating like four, without the storm since I thought that was linked to Rachel or something else instead of Max and that solving the mysteries would fix it
1. Pricefield ending of Max and Chloe dating (One I would have been aiming for by the end of the game)
2. Max and Chloe friendship ending where they're just hanging out together
3. Max going to the movies with Warren and others from Blackwell, maybe Max going over to Chloe's house for a sleepover afterwards
4. Max winning the contest and showing confidence in herself

As you can see, none of them involve going back to the start to undo everything or killing Chloe because even when I started playing those ideas seemed cliche and idiotic to me.

>>181591160
Just use the fireden archive, dude. It has virtually every thread of /lisg/ going back years.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/%22Life%20is%20Strange%20is%20an%20episodic%22/type/op/

>>181591561
Sick fanfiction man

>>181591026
I do think its ok to value the love of your life over a bunch of acquaintances. I'd sacrifice a whole town in an instant if I had to choose my significant other over the town.

>>181591673
People's lives do not become more or less valuable or important based on their proximity to you, and its amazing that I have to say that.

>>181591563
Yes to all. The only thing that actually matters is what you personally desire.
Note that this is not synonymous with 'do things traditionally considered immoral'. That is as prescriptive a claim as 'do things traditionally considered moral'.
You can disbelieve in morality and still be an altruist, donate to charities, be a vegetarian, etc. It's simply off your own accord rather than part of some fictive scheme.

>>181591026
Max herself did nothing that resulted in anyone being harmed. It's not comparable to manslaughter or any other crime.
You're more than welcome to try to treat it like some kind of trial, but the jury would find her innocent when they saw the other timelines and the storm still coming.

>>181591563
Self-preservation is not something to be demonized. You're bringing up the most extreme examples as if you have some kind of point that could be compared to Max. She didn't rape, steal from, or kill anyone. If you want to try to place blame on someone then look at whoever gave Max that power in the first place, who we do not know.
Your way of thinking is not applicable and has no relevance to the events of the game.

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>>181591160
Sorry bud

>>181591781
Yea they do, that's human nature based on biological imperative. Morality is a creation of man and wildly subjective.

>>181591670
We already know Arcadia Bay has lot of bomb shelters, and I cant think of literally any reason to build the barn one unless its for shady business. You dont build a shelter, whether to protect from bombs or storms, in the middle of nowhere

>>181591781
>People's lives do not become more [...] important based on their proximity to you
You cannot seriously contend that you would react the same to a close friend or relative dying as to a random person in Mongolia that you had never met.

>>181591781
>People's lives do not become more or less valuable or important based on their proximity to you
Sorry, robotman, but they do. You say loyalty is something wrong, but every single person throughout history would disagree with you.
Even in the real world that applies. Those who are close to you take priority over strangers in nearly every case.
Unless you're telling me everyone is equally valuable and only quantity matters, which is the same as saying everyone is equally worthless.

DESU Brooke looks like a guy so I wouldn't be surprised if she was a trans, progressive and all that

>>181590921
The problem with the choice system though is that it doesn't really take into account past choices. Kate for instance is save able no matter how you treated her before. All you have to do is pick the right options in any particular choice tree at that moment. The past choices don't affect the outcome. Not nearly as much as they should if at all.

>>181592015
She caused the deaths of a large group of people to her express emotional benefit.
>>181592165
But do you think that the life of your friend mattered more then that person in mongolia?
>>181591940
>is it ok to rape
>yes
holy shit
>>181592086
>>181592225
Imagine being so egotistic as to actually believe that an individuals existence relative to YOU is what decides there worth as a human

>>181592658
What is a human inherently worth? Relationships define absolutely all dedcision making about other people especially in either or scenarios. Stop denying human nature.

>>181592616
That would have been a lot of work to create multiple scenes for each choice. even so, why shouldn't Kate be saveable? The worst thing Max can do is not take Kate's call but that shouldn't push Kate over the edge and make saving her impossible.
Max is still Kate's friend and has done nothing to worsen the situation. Kate's not on that roof because of Max, she's on there because of how her family, church, and schoolmates have treated her.
I don't think every choice/result need to be a drastic one. Which is specifically why the ending dilemma falls flat.

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>>181592658
>But do you think that the life of your friend mattered more then that person in mongolia?

They matter more to me. I hear about hundreds of people dying of cancer a year but was only SAD when it happened to someone I knew. Not sure what about this is so hard to get

>>181592658
>She caused the deaths of a large group of people to her express emotional benefit.
She did? I must have missed when she pulled out a gun and started spraying down everyone in the town.
Who would you blame when a regular tornado comes through?

Why are you sitting on a computer and posting from a comfortable spot when people are dying in the world? You could be out there saving them! Hell, your organs alone could save multiple people dying.

Can you guys stop bullying the trans and get back to cute posting? Discrimination is not okay.

>>181592658
If personal relationships or loyalties have no meaning or relevance then that would just mean everyone acted even more selfish.
A world where you rely or grow attached to anyone would mean a mentality of trusting no one and only caring about yourself.
Your entire way of thinking is inhuman because you seriously refuse to believe that people can be attached to some over others.
How do you live life like that?

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Oh no guys, we're horrible people and monsters!!

>>181593136
where the fuck is 9s

>>181592658
>>181593131
>>181593273
I would delete a town for someone I really loved but I'd still feel bad about it afterwards
Like this isn't some black/white thing where if you do it you should have 0 remorse

>>181592840
Is it ok to murder a person that no one else knows?
>>181592896
>To you
think we were operating on different wavelengths
>>181592979
She caused the event which caused thier deaths. If chloe dies in the bathroom then the storm does not come.
>>181593131
Because human beings deserve to be protected and treated well even if I don't fucking know them mr philosopher

>>181593273
Yea because it's totally logical to kill an entire town just for one person, you moron

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>>181593420
>She caused the event which caused thier deaths. If chloe dies in the bathroom then the storm does not come.

Max doesnt know this. At the time all she knows is that the one time Chloe DID die and she didnt fix it, the storm still came. She has no reason to think letting her die a different way will stop it.

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>>181593418
Of course Max would feel bad about what happened, but that does not mean she wouldn't save Chloe or regret saving her.
You're right that life is not black/white which is why basing things purely on numbers is absurd.

>>181593420
Everyone deserves to be treated kindly, yes. But everything has its limit and there are times where you have to refuse something in favor self-preservation and the well being of your loved ones.
You're advocating for some kind of Communist utopia where everyone is equally worthless in the grand scheme of things and where people who dare excel at ot strive towards something, or that show dedication to another, are villains.

>>181593531
Nice!

>>181593694
She knows that she might have and we know that she did. Thats why we've been using the term accident and the phrase "Caused the death of" instead of murder right?

>>181593452
If you want to play the logic game then Max would have no reason to logically conclude that Chloe's death would stop the storm even if she did cause it.

>>181593895
I don't remember ever saying that heroics should be forced by the government. Maybe you're putting words in my mouth or something huh?

>>181593936
You're missing the point. Even if Max knew she caused it, she would NOT know she could undo it.
You're expecting her to kill Chloe because it *might* stop the storm. Because you think everyone is so flippant about the value of life as you are. "Oh it's just one person dying to save many", what happens when that person is you or someone close to you? You roll over like a bitch and accept that? If you won't even fight for your life or the life of someone close then you do not deserve it.

>>181594025
>Every time I change big things with my powers the world falls apart a bit more
>Maybe if I go back in time and stop myself from changing all those things the bad things that happened because of those changes won't happen
this seems pretty logical famalam

>>181594142
It's unspoken but clearly how you feel. You'd be like Joseph Stalin and kill 1,000 people if it meant saving 1,001.

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>>181593452
>they actually show most of the buildings intact at the end with no signs worse than an EF2 tornado
>I'm gonna assume everybody is dead

So in this whole argument, are we just ignoring how max has dozens of photos from throughout the week she could travel through and warn people about the storm? She could save everyone. People are acting like she's just magically gonna lose her power after Bae.

>>181594172
All the loved ones of the multitude of individuals you allowed to die in that storm can't do anything but roll over and accept it. Is it ok for you to force that upon them just because you have the power to do so?

>>181594251
Going back and not intervening is itself changing things.
If what you're hinting at is that Max's powers make things worse then going back very far to use her powers and alter and entire week's events would lead to even more problems.

>>181594279
>Sacrificing one person to save dozens is literally equivalent to sacrificing 1000 people to save 1001 people
Keep misrepresenting the ideas of others because you don't like them friend

>>181594441
I didn't realize those people were incapable of moving themselves or taking action to get into shelter.
Again, you sit here typing away in this thread and using organs that multiple others could be using. You'd be making their loved ones happy by saving them, and all it would take would be your (one) life.

>>181591638
Reading old /lisg/ threads from 2015 is a truly bizarre experience
SO much waifufagging, Chloe hate, Kate drama, worship of side characters, etc
Ancient /lisg/ is like contemporary /v/. Basically the only constant is people hating Warren

>>181594575
At what ratio does it stop being the clearly ethical thing to do?

>>181594575
So what's a life worth to you since there's apparently some kind of exchange rate?
You've already established that personal relationships do not increase value or merit going an extra distance to preserve, so an overall benefit of one life saved would be favorable. Would it not?

Why is there no Brooke posting? What about side characters like Juliet or Alyssa? It's always fucking max or Chloe it's getting annoying

>>181594580
>Just outrun the hurricane everyone!
Did I cause the organ failure of all these people that all happen to require different organs from my body and also happen to share the same blood type as me?

>>181594832
To this day I don't get the Brooke meme. She is a complete fedora-tier asshole through the entire game, with zero redeeming qualities or nuances like Victoria.
You're right though. It would be nice to see more fanart of other blackwell students

>>181594832
Dana thread when?

>>181593531
Cuties!

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>>181594708
People liking Max and Chloe was also a constant, even if it wasn't until a little later on when Pricefield became a core aspect of the general. People at least recognized how real their friendship was and then grew to see the love between them.
The Chloe and Kate hate was just a few very vocal idiots. Don't let them persuade you that everyone in the threads were bitterly divided over it since most liked (and still do like) both of them. Some people still do feel and attachment to one or more side characters since something about them was appealing. Personally, I like Stella.

>>181594978
Brooke isn't an asshole, idk which version you played but you're absolutely wrong
>>181595007
Dana is cute too, needs more side characters

>>181593531
>Ketchup and mustard
I have the distinct feeling that Hawt Dawg Man is somewhere around there...

>>181595219
I like Brooke but she IS kind of an asshole in her first meeting if you arent a drone expert

>>181594814
>>181594731
probably around 2 if I'm being totally honest, thats when you factor in age and stuff

>>181595324
Ok well how would you feel if your crush kept ignoring you and hanging out with a girl that doesn't even like him

>>181594970
Did Max glue the feet of everyone in the town onto the floor?
No. It's already been said that she has no reason to believe she can stop the storm so if it's viewed as inevitable then there's nothing that can be done. Nothing but going back to earlier in the week to warn more people so they have more of warning. Perhaps telling them to go up to the cliff by the lighthouse since that's the place Max believes is safe.
I'm not going to change my mind or make Max into a villain based on outside knowledge or hindsight.

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YOU SUCK VICTORIA

>>181595364
You're a bigger monster than Max ever could be.

>>181595597
Is that voice ACTUALLY Stella?

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It all returns to Max...

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>>181595428
Blessed be the Chloe Guardian.

>>181595597
Attagirl!

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What video did this come from?

>>181595167
>>181595597
It struck me on my last playthrough that she is arguably the most Chloe-ish character you meet after Chloe. She's wracked by family and money issues, open and friendly to Max, hates the 'Vortex' establishment, and has a very casual attitude towards drugs and sex.
It was nice that in Ep 4 you could have a pithy exchange before entering the party.

>>181595324
She is also a condescending prick if you talk to her in the girl's hallway, with a tepid disinterest remaining in the more positive drone and Vortex Club exchanges. It's telling that even Courtney and Taylor are more actively friendly to Max if you play your cards right.

>>181594832
>it's getting annoying

For you.

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>>181595801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOM3gOoTJ4s

>>181595957
She's also voiced by Ashly. Maybe that's why I was felt some attraction towards her, she is somewhat similar to Chloe.
She just wants to be happy and successful but is trying to over her rough past. Though unlike Chloe, her use of drugs not to dull some pain or fill a void. It was to help her do well so she could escape her current situation.

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Stella or Brooke?

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>>181596442
Both?

>>181596442
I was gonna say Brooke, but they are both cute so both.

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>>181596556
Oh and when they get there, they do see Max. But she's not sitting in Warren's little blue car, she's sitting in some tan pickup.
Wonder whose that could be...

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This game gave me an external crisis,m before i played this game i was content with living my life as a nobody, a cog in the machine of soceity. i planned to be single and not do anything with my life.

Now im literally questioning everything that has lead to this moment in my life, wondering if its possible to find excitement and friends like Max and Chloe.
It made me look at art different and made me realise what a bitter cynical hateful person i am and that i actually love pretentiousness and "art" stuff,

God damn i really feel like shit.

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the mean girls!

>>181596970
No you can't find anyone like that and even if you should it wouldn't mean anything. Just go out of your way to help strangers you will only see once. Even if it means forsaking those who are close to you.
That's the true key to happiness :^)

>>181596970
too bad ur male

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>>181596970
Yeah that happens...

>>181597120
Courtney's eyebrows annoy me!
She does have a nice fashion sense though. Similar to what would look good on Max.

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>>181596970
>It made me look at art different and made me realise what a bitter cynical hateful person i am and that i actually love pretentiousness and "art" stuff
The true redpill is realizing LiS IS art

So, /lisg/, who are your top 5 favorite girls?

Chloe>Max>Kate>Victoria>Dana for me

>>181597685
Max>Chloe>Stella>Dana>Kate

>>181597685
Max>Chloe>Kate>POWERGAP>the rest

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>>181597685
Max >>>> Chloe >> Victoria >[power gap]> Kate > Stella > Everyone else

>>181597685
Kate > Max > Alice > Victoria > Joyce

How many of you pre-ordered Before the Storm?

>>181597579
Video games are honestly the best medium for art. Fuck that Ebert cunt.

>>181598018
there's a poll. most of us.

>>181598018
I did in the weekend. I'd have done it earlier but I had to wait for my paycheck.

>>181598018
The pre order is up already? When does it come out, do you get anything for pre ordering?

>>181597784
This but with Dana switched for Victoria
>>181598018
Hell yeah nigga

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night

>>181598287
It's on Steam right now and Episode 1 comes out on the 1st of September (down here at least, 31st August in the US). If you buy the deluxe edition you get a bonus episode featuring Max along with optional costumes and some kind of music thing.

>>181598287
check on OP

http://store.steampowered.com/app/554620

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This is important

>>181598705
Kate should be canonized

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>>181597685
Lisa > Mama > Dorothy > Aunt Max > Aunt Chloe

>>181598558
Is the bonus episode coming at the same time? Or do I have to wait until all 3 are released?

>>181598018
there's a poll for that you know

http://www.strawpoll.me/13186941

>>181598863
Probably won't come out until after Episode 3.

>>181598018
Preordered deluxe as soon as it was available, then learned Chloe's VA was different. Mild regret but not enough to cancel.

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>>181597685
Chloe = Max > Stella > Joyce > Kate

>>181598460
Sweet dreams.
Also here's the webm version. If you don't know, the source is Youngchosugar on Tumblr. they make some awesome stuff.

>>181598460
goodnight

Do you think before the storm will get more people to buy season 1 if they haven't been introduced to it yet?

>>181601130
Probably not. As a prequel it will probably only interest people who liked the original.
As such you won't see as many players and the stats of the original game won't change. However if Dontnod reset the stats on Season 1 then maybe they would be different after the prequel has been played.
More people may save Chloe at the end if they feel more attached to her or if there's hints about Rachel having some power, or about the storm.

>season 2 announced
>protagonists are a gay male and a female to male trans person he falls in love with
>no powers
>deluxe edition costs $59.99
>comes with a bonus new officially canon epilogue for season 1 where Max saves the bay and the bae

Do you buy it?

Do you keep posting it?
Or do you give up a day from now?

>>181601570
Maybe when it goes on special.

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>Come back to see if /lisg/ is comfy again
>Literally the same bae v bay debate with the same arguments and structure for the 100th time
I don't even know why I bother

>>181601570
Only if the deluxe edition allows me to punch you in the mouth and break your fingers

>>181602848
It wasn't too bad this time around. Just that computer program pretending to be human again.
There was some internal discussion as well about why we picked the Bae ending. As well as a nice discussion about the side characters.

>>181602848
Unchallenged ideas simply stagnate. Let the bayfags shitpost, it only hones baefag arguments.

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ENOUGH OF THIS FUCKING BAEFAGGOTRY.

EPISODE 5. DID. NOT. HAPPEN.

>>181603625
Chloe is still bae even if that was true though

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>[Chloe lightly snoring and Max mumbling about the nice dream she is having]

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>[Lisa lightly snoring and Alice mumbling about the nice raspberry-filled dream she is having]

>>181603274
But the whole situation has been stagnant for months now, shitposters obviously don't want to have honest discussion, they just want to stir shit up. Yet there are those numbskulls who thread after thread try to argue with the shitposters. Nothing can hone our arguments more, they are close to perfect already. Shitposting twats should just be banned and so should the people who give 'em (You)s

>>181597685
Kate>Dana>Max>Chloe>Juliet

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Just killed frank for the first time, wow this was pretty brutal, Chloe's life is one fuck up moment after another.

So many newfags with shitty opinions and shallow misappreciations and mischaracterizations of the game here lately. Free to play was a mistake.

>>181611718
Poor Taylor.

>>181597685
Chloe>Max>Victoria>Brooke>Alyssa

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Before you shit on me about browsing plebbit, I just wanted to show you how far a bayfag can be this retarded.

>Lmao, my choice doesn't need justification. I chose "not-mass-murder". Max did Depraved heart murder in bae ending.
>*say she totally is not and both endings shouldn't be label as morally right or wrong.because in one of endings she lets her loved one die without doing anything undoing her action*
> Max created the storm. A drunk driver doesn't ask to kill anyone, but they're still guilty of negligent homicide if they do, because they made the choice to drink and drive.she caused the storm and knows it will kill a lot of people, and knows how to prevent it. Choosing to do nothing in light of those facts shows a callous disregard for human life tantamount to murder.
>*ignores my whole point after what I've said*
>Chloe also wanted to die. She doesn't affirm you if you choose Bae
>*try to convince him how those scenes were differently played out,she was trying to say she will be okay with whatever Max choose and how she said she'll always be with you on the other ending*
>Max can be played as someone who says "everyone else can die screaming as long as I'm with my girlfriend", but that's not who Chloe is. Chloe has morals and a conscience. So bae ending is ooc for Chloe. Because we've seen her actions in AU timeline. I'll always be with you quote was just bullshit she doesn't affirm your choice unlike the other one
>*try to convince him by devs' intentions, and even send Michel's interpreation about that ending*
>I don't believe you. Let's say for the sake of argument I believe you.. then it changes nothing I've said about characterization and the writing in those scenes
>*people'd naturally priortize their loved ones over anyonelse in whatever situation. Ask him what'd he do if he were in Max's shoes*
>Your question is pointless and wouldbeuntrue. People let their loved ones die all the time, for lots of reasons. Sometimes people kill their own loved ones.

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>>181585498
They all know Max and Chloe are gonna get married :3

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>>181612391
>People let their loved ones die all the time, for lots of reasons. Sometimes people kill their own loved ones.
>Sometimes people kill their own loved ones.

holy.fucking.shit. did he really say this shit to justify his own opinion?

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>>181593418
>>181593895
That is exactly what happened. Max feels terrible as they drive through the ruined town. But one gesture from Chloe and you can see she k ows she made the right choice

Why is there a general for a singleplayer game?

>>181612391
>Chloe also wanted to die... Because we've seen her actions in AU timeline. I'll always be with you quote was just bullshit she doesn't affirm your choice unlike the other one

Chloe didn't want to die, she said she would agree with it if Max chooses that. If Max chooses that she encourages her to comfort her also since Max outrightly said she doesn't want to do it. she doesn't says you should've chosen me. She supports Max whatever you do.

Choices may be foreshadowed somethings at point but AU timeline was completely different. In AU timeline Chloe wanted to die because she was suffering,because she was paralyzed and don't want to make her parents suffer because of money issues.

But in the ending, she offered to sacrifice herself and she said she'll be ok with whatever she choose because she believes Max'll make the right decision. In either way she was supporting you. Wtf man, is that really hard to not understand how these scenes were played out?

Hell, the things AU Chloe and Chloe were experienced totally different,character development were totally different. How the fuck you can *exactly* relate it with endings and her emotions? Didn't she say she'll always be with you no matter what.

> Max created the storm. A drunk driver doesn't ask to kill anyone, but they're still guilty of negligent homicide if they do, because they made the choice to drink and drive.she caused the storm and knows it will kill a lot of people, and knows how to prevent it. Choosing to do nothing

She didn't intentionally create the storm, all she was thinking there was saving that girl's life right there. Endings represented whether if she should undo this action or not . Seriously these cold-blooded bastards forgetting everything just to support their own ''many > one'' so-called moral arguments.

> People let their loved ones die all the time, for lots of reasons.Sometimes people kill their own loved ones.
What?

>>181592852
Well multiple scenes wouldn't be needed, just eliminate or add dialogue choices based on your stats with that character. I mean it's not really super important since it's not a huge RPG but I don't know maybe it could add more depth. Athat least it could make chloe and Max's relationship be less ambiguous at the end for some players who don't see the clear romantic elements.

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>>181594708
I liked Warren but he had no chance

>>181598018
Me

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>>181596970
Reminder that you'll never have a relationship, whether platonic or romantic, as perfect as these two

>>181613202
their relationship wasn't ambigious at all if you paid attention. again, in this game everything ends up with same consclucion one way or another.

Chloe has feelings for Max. that's undeniable.

you may avoid Chloe's advantages but at the end after nightmare thing (where Chloe was kissing people and shit esp), Max outrightly brings up love word and questions it. if you don't kiss chloe in ep3 it her feelings were blurry and was starting to understand but to find it out you have to read journal.

you may answer Chloe's advantages, and she becomes more aware of her feelings for Chloe. actually kissing her in ep3 opens her eyes and makes it less blurry,and journal entries becomes more open,obvious.

so whateva we did, their relationship **ISN'T** platonic there's always something more. it's all about ''making her realize earlier'' or realize this at the very end of the game.

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>>181613741
>Max and Chloe's *platonic* relationship

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>>181597685
Chloe=Max>Dana>Victoria>Joyce
Can't decide between Chloe and Max. Max is probably the closest to my ideal gf. But Chloe evokes those protective feelings in me and her crazy smile is major qt. And Joyce because I know she'd support Max and Chloe relationship because it makes them happy

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>>181613202
>Athat least it could make chloe and Max's relationship be less ambiguous at the end for some players who don't see the clear romantic elements.

Honestly I started this game without knowing these two having relationship. While playing though I've realized that there were literally obvious tell tale signs,scenes (regardless of our choices) for Max and Chloe's relationship.

After Episode 5 especially,I don't really get why some people insisting on don't want to see it though, even if endings were ambigious their feelings at least were becoming apperant and yeah, it was more than platonic in every way. Anyone may go full delusion and may completely ignore journal entries but they are there. In nightmare scene especially, Chloe played in more romantic manner in dark room part.This is why Max dares to bring up Love word in both outcome of journal,because indepenant of our choices, she considers it anyway; this is where this whole platonic debate should end. Journal kinda alters if you agreed on kissing her not, and the dare kiss was making her feelings more, clear.

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>>181602848
It was good yesterday. Lots of Cuteposting

>>181614398
You should kill yourself, you dumb waifucunt.

>muh ideal gf

That's not what we're asking.

>>181614607
>I don't really get why some people insisting on don't want to see it though
you should've seen their behaviours during each episodes' release.

>''pool/ dare moment was just a joke eheheh Chloe wasn't into Max, they were gal pals''
>what happened in journal: if Max refuses it she says she'd but she doesn't like that it's being a dare, if Max agrees says it was cute the way Chloe got embarassed. Unoptional dialogue: I think she sees Rachel amber in her future...
>after ep4-ep5, it also turned out it wasn't a joke

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When you're not working on LIS 2, and don't remember the other people who they're actually working on LIS 2.

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>>181609819

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>>181612391
>''Sometimes people kill their own loved ones.''
>implying IRL someone's killing their own loved ones is pretty much normal thing

>>181614687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCo5w6qukJY

You know how Frank coded her as a bulldog?

Indeed.

Promise me anons.

You all will treat Rachel like a shit as much as possible in BtS. She totally deserved it.

>>181615719
No. How dare you suggest that to a girl that was brutally ended, and left to rot in a junkyard?

Rachel was flawed, but she did nothing truly wrong.

>>181615719
Idk kev, I will have to inspect some stuff in the game files to see her cliche drama, since deck 9 will probs not be good at hiding stuff again.

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>>181596970
>This game gave me an external crisis
>im literally questioning everything that has lead to this moment in my life, wondering if its possible to find excitement and friends
>It made me look at art different and made me realise what a bitter cynical hateful person i am

So isn't just me then, damn. Though I'm getting interested in photography now

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I get the feeling that game will heavily focus on solving Rachel's issues rather than focusing on Chloe's. Chloe will try so hard to help her and ignore her pain just to help Rachel. And by that, Rachel'll warm up to Chloe more and more.

But at some point, she probably push her away whenever she gets angry etc.

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>>181615882
> since deck 9 will probs not be good at hiding stuff again.
ofc they're not.

they even showed ep1's locations in the trailer.

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>tfw Rachel's family secret is: {Rachel's dad is cheating on Rachel's mum} theory became right

>>181615719
If she treats Chloe like she did in gameplay, I'll consider it.

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>>181613883
Kek

Happy 4th of July shaka brahs

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>>181618048
thanks

>>181617031
Well, it's part of the interesting character conflict. To just treat her like shit is pretty stupid.

>>181612391
>People let their loved ones die all the time, for lots of reasons. Sometimes people kill their own loved ones.

Yeah IRL let's say we can't affort hospital charges of our loved ones, who's a cancer so we're giving up on them easily and letting them die rather than trying so hard, or when we see somebody writhe on the ground we're not doing shit/calling ambulance and just letting them to die right there.

Yeah sometimes people [kill] their own loved ones too; those people are either obsessed psychos / people who are fucked up from brain. So it's definitely normal thing to do.


.. these baycucks are seriously creeping the shit out of me.

>>181618048
Independence was a mistake.

>>181612391
Chloe's got a really good answer for those cucks who are saying Max's a fucking murderer

>"Fuck all of that, okay? You were given a power. You didn't ask for it... and you saved me. Which had to happen, all of this did... except for what happened to Rachel. [...] Okay, so you're not the goddamn Time Master, but you're Maxine Caulfield... and you're amazing."

>>181616214
Damn Chloe is edgy. Mom's gonna freak

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America!

I wish you a greater future!

>>181628727
This. Happy fireworks day burgers.

>>181629248
>he said angrily in English

>>181615719
How does she deserve it?

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>>181629248
>Jews didn't deserve the holocaust

>>181632291
Hitler is shit because he didn't do the holocaust and gave them swimming pools instead
Nazis are massive losers and I'm glad they got bombed

>>181632004
For daring to disrupt the pure glory of Pricefield!

>>181615719
>>181632004

I dont like the character of rachel.
Just hearing about her reminded me of too many fake cunts from high school, the "cool with everyone popular types"
The fact she had obiters from the jocks to the nerds makes me not at all like her.

and worst of all, he relationship with frank, Jefferson and Nathan, She was playing the table with all of them and never once told chloe about any of them. She never started a paper trial for chloe to follow and she just randomly said "I met someone who changed my life cya"
and then went missing.

Rachel never mentioned Jefferson or Nathan and its a mistake that got her killed.
Chloe really really liked rachel and i cant imagine the finding out your missing friend was a shady fucking liar that fucked half the town behind your back and "ran away" with one thinking it would help her. Rachel only ever cared about herself. she was a cunt .

>>181630045
Sadly engl*sh seems to be the sole language we all can converse in

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>>181632550
Don't forget the football stadium and pic related

>it's a /lisg/ turns into /pol/ episode

>>181633349
Nah.

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There are girls in this general

>>181634590
Well yeah that's why only one ship is allowed
And no fun is

>>181634737
That's why /Lisg/ and Life is Strange period should be boys only.

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>>181634737
Hello WarrYn

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>>181634590

>>181635010
Well I don't want that ship
That one can stay off limits

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Let's blow shit up

>>181633349
I guess the endless false-flagging and bait got stale, so now they're just trying to derail the thread with straight up irrelevant content

>>181634590
at least 40% of /lisgers/ are girls (female)

>>181635404
>violence
no ty

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>>181604995
Adorable

>>181636180
>having a scratch stomper instead of a kindness squeaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQcvlyjcaPM

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I hope Alice and Lisa get to see each other for the holiday.

>>181628727
That's mad cute. They need to drive somewhere quiet and sit in the back of Chloe's truck while watching fireworks. Maybe the town does a big carnival or something too.

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Who would win a fight?

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>>181615719
>>181632946
I'm going to give Rachel a fair chance. I know she obviously did fuck up and hurt Chloe, but so did Max and we don't hold that against her.
We don't know Rachel's full story and if Chloe was close friends with her then I do trust her at least a little bit. I don't think they ever were romantically together so I'm not going to push for that, and I will defend Max if Rachel does something like talk shit about her when she's not there.
The prequel will probably show more character development of Rachel then it will Chloe. It kind of has to in order to make it believable that they did become very good friend because even if Chloe didn't want to be alone, she wouldn't tolerate someone who didn't give a damn about her. We currently know very little about Rachel Amber but I don't think she was just some 'fake slut". I think it's much more complex than that and even if she did lie to Chloe, it wasn't out of malice. It was out of poor judgement but (in her mind) good intentions to keep Chloe from getting hurt.
It was the wrong thing to do but it's not unforgivable, at least to me. It's not like she cheated on Chloe or was taking advantage of her (that we know of). Who knows? The prequel may make me hate her, all I'm saying is I am keeping my mind open.

>>181637586
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Homura_Akemi
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Maxine_Cauldfield

Town Level (with prep) vs MultiVerse

Poor Max. They need to stop putting her in fights she can't possibly win.

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Happy fourth, /lisg/!
Enjoy the food, fun, and fireworks! 'Murica!

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>>181638631
>Cauldfield
But that's wrong.

>Lifting strength: Regular Human
HA!

She can also carry a gun, which is a pretty effective superpower.

>>181637586
Poor Max has no chance at all

>>181639312
What if Chloe's life was on the line?