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/poeg/ Purposfuly Ostracizing Every Goy

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THIC zana edition!
>ES and Life manifesto
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1899919
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu (embed)
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

YOUR FREE TO BE HERE UNTIL 3.0 FOREVER
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those OPs are getting worse and worse
genocide all the animeshitters please
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>>181558791
steam is patching the beta
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when is 3.0 coming i want to play
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>>181559307
early february
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>>181559473
shocku
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Beta wipe in 30 minutes
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7th for anime
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>12 minutes past time
>no patch
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>>181560934
>Game servers are restarting in: 00:14:34. They should be back up in approximately 10 minutes.
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Why is /poeg/ always so fucking dead? Cmon hype guys beta wipe incoming, what new builds are you guys running?
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>no new skill gems
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>>181561397
dual wield sunder gladiator
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>>181561472
Coming with release
>>181561397
Life based Ball Lightning. I want to try out new Brutus' Lead Sprinkler but it's going to be expensive so I need a starting character.
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>>181561397
Spectre auramancer
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>>181561527
>new builds
Alkaizer wannabe
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u moostin dude?
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why is poe not very fun
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>>181351995
>free
>>181363308
>FREE
>>181365917
>FREE
>>181371338
>free
>>181383128
>FREE
>>181386678
>free
>>181389914
>free
>>181392958
>free
>>181477641
>free
>>181504068
>free
>>181520545
>free
>>181530867
>free
>>181537452
>free
>>181537967
>free
>>181558915
>free
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I wish I was in the beta
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>>181562613
Its only $10 anon
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get a job or git gud
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but for 5 dollars more u can get d3 necro
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>>181562697
How is it only 10 bucks? Explain.
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i was gud before u were born kiddo
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>>181562797
>d3
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>>181562804
Oh, sorry anon nvm you missed the special:

https://chrono.gg/tarke
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real asbestos shoveling hours
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>>181561667
Speaking of BLS, anyone else here play that build? Looking into what the best offhand is going to be now that the second mace doesn't do anything.
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I don't think I want to pay $10 for a beta...
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>Expected downtime: 10 mins
>11 mins so far
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ok PoEg should i go WW or BF i wanna beable to stomp on shaper
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>No update

are you for fucking real GGG
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>>181563176
How do you use multiple orbs on one item like that? Hold shift or something?
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no one played gladiator before alkaizer
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>>181563524
Yes.
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>>181563524
Yes, have you been moving your mouse after every click? Poor mouse
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>>181563874
Don't worry, I haven't played for that long yet.
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Should I ever make a resolute tech build???
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you have the technology to produce resolution?
patent it good son
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PATCH IS HERE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcVfx7v5ItA
GGG is literally McDonald's here
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>>181558791
Fit Scion!
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the youngest daughter
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of a respected family
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what do you think her sisters are doing when she's letting the savages loose on oriath
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dresses, dances, suitors...
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and my lover
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Is melee not shit now?
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damage isn't what holds melee back in arpgs
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i heard you like critical strikes but are also not near the top right of the graph
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>Not playing Ocean Man at full blast whenever you slot Brine Kang's pantheon bonus
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"I was a raw nugget"
Jesus Christ, fire the guy who wrote that line
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pierce is ass guttered lolo
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Sparkers on suicide watch for real now.
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frostbolt meta confirmed
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shield charge - onslaught - arcane surge - faster attacks in insanity gloves with a culling strike brightbeak

who needs fortify desu when everything is dead
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>Proliferation gem from Nessa at lvl 1
ooookay
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>it's another "GGG creates a gem to help early leveling that becomes autoslotted on every single shield charge setup" episode
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>>181567130
>The new gem also makes shield charge better
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What if their plan is to have more mandatory supports than you can socket into a 6 link setup?

>8 mandatory supports
>only 5 slots

really makes me think
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>>181567505
That IS their plan along with throwing more shit to use with secondary skills.
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fuck me i missed the sale reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>181568095
At least you're not me.
>buy shit
>on sale few hours later
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>another support for 40% more spell damage
hmm
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I will kill myself if gloom set doesn't go on sale next.
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le more modifier
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>glacial cascade
>life + mom
>hrimburn to convert the remaining phys damage to cold
>essence worm with hatred
>biscos amulet
>rest are rares
>bubbling divine/taste of hate/atziri's promise/diamond flask/quicksilver flask
>shield charge - arcane surge - faster attacks - fortify on insanity gloves
>ascendancy with elementalist + assassin
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>tfw no gem with a more modifier for my penis size
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>pierce is now useless
And just like that we're back to only being able to kill one enemy at a time. It's kind of weird they went to all the trouble of making an Xbox version to release at the same time they kill the game.
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>>181569787
>.t vaal sparker
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>>181569831
Never even used it before. I was thinking more of inquisitor for example who can no longer use bow skills.
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>aoe redesign
aoe da
>pierce redesign
projectile da

ded es
ded vaal skills
ded build diversity

nice game pooptards
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>>181569590
Don't reveal my secret build cunt.
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>>181569787

pierce is now on par with fork and chain (his retarded cousins)

while in reality "we" as a "community" wanted fork and chain to be on par with pierce
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>30% chance to do more spell damage for 4 seconds
>30% chance to do 75% more melee damage
>25% chance to gain onslaught on killing blow
Can they fuck off with all of these supports with a chance to do shit? Either make the skill do the thing or not. I don't want to die because I got bad RNG.
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>>181570149
git gud
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>viper strike was the only viable way to poison
>they nerfed it in the new patch
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>>181570427
>he hasn't been running poison arrow since 0.9.0
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>>181571789
>CA
>viable
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>>181571891
>CA
>superfast leveling regardless of gear
>every class would use this in the 4 hour races due to the clear speed
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pierce shitters on suicide watch
3.0 shaping to be the greatest patch ever
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>wake up
>labyrinth still isnt deleted
i cant take it anymore bros
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>>181572330
If only this would've happened before the mayhem race. Zizaran would've killed himself.
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name a bigger shitter filter than lab

feels glorious desu
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pretty amusing seeing all the shitters cry about lab being too hard when I do things like fighting 5 exiles in the middle of a trap gauntlet in mayhem just for fun
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>>181572330
I know right? Thank god I love seeing all the salt on leddit too

>d-don't take my build diversity away GGG!!!
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>don't take away my vinktars gr vp diversity away :(((
>im totally not gonna netbuild the new meta the actual players will theorycraft for me :(((
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>Bunch of new support shit
>No new actual skills
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>>181573360
don't boast about that you ABLEIST scum

everyone deserves a participation medal regardless of their skill because people shouldn't feel bad for being shitters :)
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can i have a beta key yet
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>>181573728
it's possible people just ahven't got to them yet.
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>>181574126
*unzips*
ahem
it ain't gonna suck itself
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>>181574174
Pretty sure they said no new skills in beta and implied there will be new ones in 3.0
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Anyone may give me a Scion BV build?
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>>181573360
it's really easy content, the fact that it's been like a year and people still can't handle the lab is pretty fucking sad. mayhem makes the lab a lot of fun, plus all that extra loot is easy to grab when the zones (excluding the outdoor zones) are so small.
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can someone summarize what the game is now, haven't played since essence
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>>181575214
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>>181575214
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piety gives only 1 skill point in 3.0?
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>>181576251
She gave two before the wipe.
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can i play gc totems in 3.0
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Are there even patch notes for the new beta
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>>181576523
well she gives only 1 now
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>>181576531
You can, but they'd be kind of garbage.
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>>181576710
why :(
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REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181565418
>30% chance to deal 75% more damage at level 1
>Ruthless Blows have a 100% Stun rate
Yeah, that's not gonna be overpowered at all in a high attack speed build.
No, true melee is still shit and will continue to be shit until GGG gives all proper Melee Skills an inherent 90% Damage Reduction if you've used the skill in the past 10 seconds.
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>>181578084
>Ruthless Blows have a 100% Stun rate
They don't. There's still a threshold you have to hit.
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>>181569590
>Essence worm Hatred
You're still only getting 50% effectiveness out of this and would be better off running Herald of Ice.
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>>181578084
ruthless blows work off ur own stun rate
just increase the amount of stunning that happens when you normally stun
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are two-stone rings nerfed to 12-14% res only? i haven't seen any 15-16% yet.
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>>181578220
>You're still only getting 50% effectiveness out of this

What do you mean?
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>>181578210
>>181578262
Oh. I see. my bad.
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>>181578358
I keep forgetting GC is pure Phys with Conversion in 3.0. Ignore my retarded ramblings.
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Is there an organized place where I can see all the newest skill gems? Have they all been revealed?
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>abyssus
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>Pierce rates are now 100%, but they Pierce a fixed number of times
Boy oh boy.
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>>181580632
Crit multi was nerfed across the board.
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BAHAHAHAH.
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>>181581061
Good.

I'm personally not a fan of "crit" in anything but a good old dice roller.
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>>181581139
post original too shithead, not like anyone here actually has used viper strike
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they forgot about incinerate again didn't they
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remember when pain attunement's 30% more multiplier was valuable because more multipliers were actually scarce, and to access it was paid in the cost of going LL

and now arcane surge unlocks more power than pain attunement at the opportunity cost of a gem socket for movement skills

all we need at this point is floating damage numbers
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Iv'e played almost every ARPG excpet this game, i'm downloading it now. What do i need to know and what's the most fun build in your opinions? I usually like to nuke shit or use pets.
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>>181581369
yep, along with lightning tendrils.
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leave while you can
while hope springs yet
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>>181581956
Could easily roll a necromancer build and choose what goes in your army. You can have: zombies, skeletons, spectres, flaming spirit heads. golems, etc
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>>181581279
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what's the best class/asc for GC in beta?
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>>181582847
Assassin or Inquisitor.
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Elementalist so you don't die to reflect
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>>181582652
beautiful
GGG knows how to balance
thats 4 sure
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then go scion elementalist+assassin
witch elementalist is dead now that prolif is completely pointless
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>>181582270
Is there anything about this game that i need to know just starting?
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>level 1
>free onslaught
>free flat +chaos and poison
>free 30% more spell damage
i mean some bad skills might've needed this but it only made the strongest skills even more ridiculously strong and the game more casual.
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>>181582969
Agreed.
>Lose 40% of your chance to Poison
>Get 5% base damage bonus
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>>181583309
Xbox.
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>>181583635
You don't understand anon. Viper Strike made poison almost viable on the beta before. Clearly that couldn't happen.
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>>181583635
also went from 8 seconds duration to 4
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>>181583813
That's the joke. We were making a joke that GGG overreacts to everything.
>>181583894
I didn't even catch that. Fuck, Poison is dead unless it gains Duration AND Poison Chance as it levels.
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>bleed still sucks shit
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>>181584330
Honestly still waiting for that new Keystone. That will be the only possibility for Bleed to not be shit, since they'll never let it stack like Poison.
Without a comically huge downside like 80% Less damage, does no Extra damage to moving enemies, which would still make it objectively worse than Poison.
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nah it's going to be the opposite. 3000% damage to moving targets. deal no damage to stationary.
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want to push ladder but mom is microwaving again
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where do i get a beta key
also what did they replace bandits with
also is lightning/cold viable over fire damage now because
>lmao doubledip ignites
or
>thresh hold to proc status freeze or shock = immune bosses
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>>181585643
Buy it or win it.
2 skill points, basically nothing, basically nothing, and basically nothing.
Yes.
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Righteous Fire also Nerfed, no reduction in self-damage, just damage dealt.
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>>181585717
win it from what?
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>>181587090
Races.
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>>181584508
why can't they implement a keystone yet?
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>>181587387
No idea. I just know they teased there will be a Bleed keystone in the future if Bleed is still shit in Beta come Wave 2, which it is.
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How do I tell myself to not do things where I will obviously rip
Grinding is fucking boring
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Some things never change

https://clips twitch tv/SarcasticAssiduousDurianMrDestructoid
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>Disconnected while fighting Van Darkholme in the slave pens
>Can't log back in
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tfw no beta access to play with alksenpai
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Heralds rolled into their respective elemental auras when
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>>181588639
>Herald of Hatred
Never because GGG would get bitched out for forcefully reducing build diversity.
Infernal Blow should be a Support Gem.
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3.0 is going to be shit, who could have figured
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>beta servers down
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>>181582652
lmfao, what the fuck
>Use poison skill
>Aren't guaranteed to poison
>Poison support is literally superior to the skill
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>>181588639
>Herald of Hatred
>Herald of Anger
>Herald of Wrath

CRAAAAAAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAAAAAAAAAAAAL
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Would prefer if they just released what they have now to live: and release the DoT and mechanics changes when they're ready
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>>181590692
Yeah. They fucked up bad with that change. This is a massive fucking overreaction to all the Viper Strike Assassins who were testing the new Keystone and Supports.
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>Nerfing Viper Strike

inb4reddittards claim "THE DAMAGE IS OBSCENE IF YOU ATTACK A BOSS CONTINUOUSLY FOR 20 SECONDS"
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>still can't log back in
what the fuck ggg
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when were you when labyrinth was made strand

it's not a labyrinth it's a straight line
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frog picture = post discarded
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>>181591403
>he forgot that change only applies to Normal Lab
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>>181591230
How did you know
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>>181588853
Barrage should be a support too
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>>181591403
>Straight line
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yes surely this process of appeasing the lowest common denominator (read: bottom line) won't spill into endgame!

quoth the strand-runner, watching his tv
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>>181591534
>all damage tree/gear if you stood still and attacked a boss for 18 seconds

yet its perfectly acceptable for nigger flurry and nigger vortex to deal 18 quintillion billion trillion zillion gorillion megatillion googlezilllion damage while channeling or spamming the spell for .25 seconds.
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>HC legacy is 17 times less active than legacy

Merge HC and SC, and enable trading between players no matter their core
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>die in HC
>trade your gear back to guildmates
>get them to boost you to merc

yes fantastic idea maybe now catposter will get past 85
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retard
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Mediumcore when. You lose all your gear on death, but not your character. Dying to server lag wouldn't feel so bad, the economy would be better and you'd still play like HC.
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>Arcane Surge
SUP DAWGS, SO I HEARD YOU SPELL CASTERS WANTED ANOTHER MORE MULTIPLIER BUT ONLY HAD SIX SOCKETS, SO WE PUT A GLOBAL MORE MULTIPLIER IN YOUR MOVEMENT SKILL SO YOU CAN DASH AROUND WHILE YOU SPAM YOUR BULLSHIT BILLION DPS SPELLS!
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retard

quoth retard
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>movement skill
what movement skill is a spell? you'd have to lightning warp like a fucking retard.
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>>181592116
Legacy was a shit league. Everyone got their MTX and got the hell out.

They can create leagues and races within a few seconds apparently yet they don't give a shit to bother and would rather prolong dead challenge leagues instead of giving players a reason to log in.
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>>181592445
it works will all skills
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where does it say it has to be linked to a spell buddy
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>>181592208
because thats so different from fucking having spare leveling gear or a full stash huh
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>>181592513
how often do you have a spare 900+es regalia or kaoms just sitting around in the first week
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justify pain attunement needing shav's to access a lower more multiplier than arcane surge whose condition is the opportunity cost of a movement skill support socket
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>>181592445
The Support doesn't have the Spell tag, which means you can link it to literally any Skill and on use, it has a 30% chance to give you the buff for 4 seconds. And even if it did require a Spell, Flame Dash and Lightning Warp.
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>>181592301
>30% chance for a buff that lasts 4 seconds
Yeah man, that's super OP. Think about how much damage I'll do by shield charging for 3 seconds every 4 seconds instead of just casting like normal.
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t. 10 minute strand clearer
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why cant i FUCKING log in
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>people are crying about new shit
I still literally cannot believe they just let Flameblast Totem be in its current form. Literally cannot understand how GGG or players think it acceptable.
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everytime i see a divination card pictogaph i get attack on titan ending theme song stuck in my head.
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>>181592745
Has anyone seen if Quality ups the Proc rate? Or if levelling it does? Or both? Cause it seems unlikely the Buff would get improved with levels.
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Don't tell me 3.0 is seriously fucked. I thought the game was going to much better and lots of fun but now it's like fuck dude wtf are they doing
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PIERCE: CHANGED

RIGHTEOUS FIRE STATUS:

N E R F E D
E
R
F
E
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is it worth buying the beta
i want to play a new league but legacy is awful
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>>181593287
>Taking away 20% of its More Spell Damage mod
>AND 10% of its Burn damage
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You're still probably able to get more burning damage on RF than in 2.6. It takes so much less investment to maintain it in 3.0, so you can swap gear or take damage nodes.
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>>181593198
40% chance for 39% more at lvl 20
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Does Increased Duration, or any skill effect duration for that matter, work with Arcane Surge?
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Cloak of Defiance got resumpstered too.
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>>181561667
>new skill gems
>Coming with release
>lol it's just a beta bro :^)
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>>181593564
Any idea what the quality is?

>>181593660
How was it changed?
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>>181593649
Shouldn't
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pt was right
we should have listened
fuck xbox
fuck ggg
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>>181593692
image because the board thinks it's spam
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>>181593878
thanks buddy
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>>181593692
>how was it changed
It had an extra 20% of damage taken as Mana in the previous build. It's down to 10% now and they gave it 1% of your Mana is Regenerated Per Second.
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>carcass jack and beast fur still dogshit

but why
>>
>Make CoD pretty decent again
>Ah shit RF is easier to sustain for caster builds
>Nerf RF
>Thats better now lets just nerf CoD again
i.. what?
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>Nerf the shit out of crit on uniques
>Bitches don't know bout my RT
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What are the new affixes for armour Body armour, I know ES got regen, and evasion got dodge
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>>181594369
RT might actually be worth it now with Ruthless strikes

avoid accuracy nodes all together and just grab another damage wheel
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>Uberelite's necromancer
>9k life
but why
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>>181594536
Ruthless Strikes on a Warchief Totem sounds absurd.
>Inb4 Brutality Ruthless Strikes is actually worth swapping for Added Fire WED and freeing up an Aura slot
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so many fucking stupid shitcrows ITT
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>>181594631
Brutality will never be worth it now that it doesn't work with Atrizi's/Sin's Rebirth
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>>181594631
I doubt brutality is worth using with anything except a Starforge because of flasks.
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stat = survivability = damage

life barons are built the same way bls and howa are in that they are incentivized to stack a stat
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>>181594742
>>181594769
I still think they'll change that back, honestly.
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>>181594631
literally no reason to use added fire now that you can fill all 5 slots with M O R E D A M A G E gems and a faster attacks
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you can count on one hand the number of non-shitters in the general, it's just a fact of life so
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>Diablo 3 hasn't updated it's levelling in 7 years
>PoE has had 3 major revamps
>PoE's levelling is still shit, and got worse, twice

Diablo 3 has high readability on every attack and spell, 1/10th of bosses are reskins and the equivalent of The Bosses from the Strand wrt. readability
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>>181594608
Because ES+VP has always been a crutch for braindead players.
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>>181594873
"% of X damage added as extra" is essentially just a more multiplier.
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Ruthless Strikes is fucking retarded.

You are looking at a more damage boost of 1/3rd of the more multiplier for the """""crit"""", which judging by the way my gem is scaling is going to be fucking absurd at level 20/20q

they should have just made it more physical
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Ruthless support making high APS Sunder even more attractive than ever, I guess GGG really hate Earthquake.
Shouldve bought the gore MTX.
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>Sunder clears packs with no AoE investment at a range
>Has now reached its final form with the new gems allowing you to just slot 5 more damage multipliers

im actually struggling to find a reason to even use Blade Flurry over this stupid fucking ability
>>
why the fuck cant we login yet?

this is some bullshit when shittyD is still somehow logged in and progressing
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Are they going to fix ES?
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>>181595784
>ZiggyNiggy is still logged in

that actually makes me fucking furious tbqh
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>>181595784
you can't even log in to the actual client since it still thinks your account is on the beta server. gg
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>>181595134
You're not wrong, but it's less effective due to penetration and lack of scaling.
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>>181595707
Sunder is shaping up to be absurd, truly and honestly.
>Whatever into Geofri's Baptism into Marohi into Hezmana's/Tidebreaker into Atziri's Disfavour in terms of world's easiest gear progression and is only a few Respec points if you allocate for 2H Mace damage when you get Hezmana/Disfavour
>Generic Melee Tree that hasn't changed for something like 3 or 4 Leagues, sans start depending on Class
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>>181596221
It's too easy... how is GGG going to fuck this up?
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>bleed still shit
>gem that gives what is essentially a crit chance for RT builds
>gem that gives both MORE damage and a chance to slow that also increases damage taken
guess I'm playing slayer sunder
again
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>>181596309
Maim Support is also looking stupid good.
>A slightly weaker Melee Phys Damage gem that also slows the enemy by 30%
Juggernaut also looks good.
>>
GGG is trying to push melee so hard it's not even funny

melee shitters please kys
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>>181596601
They're not pushing melee. They're pushing the total bastardization of the definition of melee with stuff that isn't melee in any proper description.

Or simply put:
>Giving Console babies something so unmatchedly broken that they can't possibly die
>>
quoth the blue life shitter
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>>181596786
do you want this FREE game to die or not? Console players will make them more money
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>>181597329
>die
OFC not.
>make them MORE money
They don't need more money. They need to take off the Jew goggles and fix the game.
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new keystone: Green Life (+Green Regeneration (Life regen affects Green health)
near point blank

Health pool reduced to 1
Immune to non-hits
Gain 30 points of Green Life

-1 Green life every time you are hit
-2 Hit by magic
-5-? Hit by Bosses, (Shaper slam does 30)

Regens over time, or a % every time you dodge
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>>181597416
What did he mean by this
>>
>want to play beta
>keep seeing these /poeg/ posts

i-it's good right? it fixes the games balance r-right ;_;?
>>
no

quoth yes qua yes
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>>181596792
ES is white
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>>181597624
we cant even get in their shitty servers to test it
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>>181598079
unless ur niggerD : ^ ) cant wait until chris' favorite drone gets to "accidentally" showcase the new content : ^ )
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HOLY SHIT

LITERALLY BEAT MALACHAI WITH 2 SECONDS LEFT ON THAT REALM RESTART
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>>181597624
D-dont worry, they'll realize their m-mistakes soon and the game will be p-perfect
>>
any changes to minions in 3.0?
>>
>Also, the current gem is a placeholder, and the actual planned mechanic for determining Ruthless Blows is predictable, not a chance, which will help with knowing when they're happening.

inb4 the gem is completely worthless by having some mechanic like "every 10th hit is a ruthless blow"
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any other good arpg that isn't this pos?
I just want to collect loot that is actually GOOD instead of using a loot filter that removes 99% of the screen and rares which have a 99% chance of being trash
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>>181600563
http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/
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>>181600563
I want a fun arpg too
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>>181582652
>gutting a namelock skill
>adding two support gems with two more multipliers each

I miss PT.
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>>181600663
holy shit this is way better than whatever the fuck poe is
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>DoT damage is capped at (Hit damage*Dot Increases)
Like a few hours work

>Ailment system
10000+ hours of work, probably cost GGG millions in delays

really makes you think
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>>181600563
just take any single player ARPG and use a loot mod. there, lootz fer ye.
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>A Few uniques have bonues when being frozen
>No way to intentionally freeze yourself
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>>181601930
>No way to intentionally freeze yourself
shut down your modem
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guys should i go sunder with disfavour or lacerate with starforge? which one is more fun?
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>>181602148
maybe
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Question about atlas stuff in SSF

I just got my first excavation map. Is it generally better to complete it normally to unlock it and then vaal subsequent ones, or risk vaaling my first one?
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>>181597416
sounds like Book of Demons life mechanics
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>>181602249
how is vaaling a risk exactly? its a fucking excavation map
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>>181602542

I'm SSFHC and not especially well-geared, so if I vaal it and it turns into some monstrosity I likely won't be able to clear it, and it'll likely take a decent amount of time before I find another one.

But if I clear it normally first, it'll start showing up a lot more often, and I can risk vaaling subsequent ones.
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>>181602813
excavation right now isnt some top tier hard map. still if you dont feel confident about vaaling there better be a good reason for it. is your build particularly fucked by some mods or a combination of mods? and if you are playing ssfhc, why would you play a build that cant run all mods?
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Where are the merc lab trials in beta? All in act 8?
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>>181603125
All (1) of them are in Act 8, yes.
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>he paid $30 for a beta key
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>>181563226

Wait what? They are changing BLS so that the second offhand does nothing? I hope they are doubling the bonus on the first mace in order to compensate otherwise its gonna be too weak.
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>theorycraft builds months before the 3.0 release
>theorycraft my RF MoM + cloak of defiance build
>they nerfed RF and cloak before i could even play it
i deserve this
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Didn't they also nerf SR to account for the changes to the burning support gem ?
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i eated too much pasta.
i want too beleive in 3.0.
i am sexual for zana.
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>>181592745

You mean vaal spark/fireball?

The skills that cast once every 5 or so seconds and all the rest just spam shield charge?
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Im on a complete 3.0 blackout here.

Trying to not spoil myself the new acts, should i bother trying to keep up with the other skill changes, gems and item changes?

Is 3.0 gonna be _fun_?
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>>181604925
Go blind and enjoy everything when it comes out.
>All the LORE is in place for your pleasure too
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>>181604261
you really do desu

i don't understand people that get down to doing the math for max res or sustain without finalized patch notes
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>>181606517
>i don't understand people that get down to doing the math for max res or sustain without finalized patch notes
It's boredom.
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Tolman comes back as a zombie
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>>181606517
>>181607069
>It's boredom.
yeah pretty much
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>>181607861
im watching ziddyg too, no need to crop out /ourguy/
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>got all the crafting benches including zana's device by default after the wipe
that's a nice fix for the benches to be honest
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What build can I play to be able to take down Shaper/ Uber Atziri? I have 500 hours and I can't even clear t13 map

Pic related is my latest EQ build attempt
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>>181609290

>latest EQ build
>sunder_build.gif
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>>181609290
Necromancer beacon of corruption full spectre martyr only
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>>181609560
I tried Necor before; it doesn't work and the AI is still retard in 3.0

>>181609469
My sunder build also fail the same way. Too lazy to change the name
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How do extra projectiles affect Vaal Fireball? Just +# projectiles per nova?
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>>181609713
>I tried Necor before; it doesn't work and the AI is still retard in 3.0
Please read again what I just suggested.
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>>181609802
>beacon of corruption
Isn't chaos and poison gonna get a huge nerf in 3.0? Also nerf to ES on armor and ES across the board. It gonna be a few ex for for 600 ES armor when new league start
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>>181609968
I beg you to reconsider.

Read again what I just suggested.
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Did this wave actually do anything for minion/skeleton AI?
>>
>minion AI
That's like expecting trade improvements.
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does anybody know where you get the decay support? its not yet in the wiki.
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minions could have perfect AI they would still be shit
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thats why chaos golemancers don't one shot T15 bosses
oh wait
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>scion is for
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>>181611813
scion isn't black you fucking imbecile
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>>181611813

Scion is useless now. Honestly, a gutted class.
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Are there any decent phys based wander builds out there?
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>>181611880
S-s-she's just been o-on an island for a b-bit!
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>>181611813
idk does she like board games? whats her opinion on clue?
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>>181611813
i want to cuddle with scion :3
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What the fuck is GGG doing to this game?
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>>181612885
nerf your favorite builds obviously
>>
catposter would have never allowed anime to flourish in /poeg/ under his reign

i miss catposter
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>>181612941

I miss the days of lewd witch posting.
>>
frig off catposter
>>
catposter died for our sins
>>
this general has the worst posting meta by far
>>
this fucking water/ice pool side boss in act 8. these degen balls chase you faster than the boss itself. what the fuck is the intended strategy here? if i stop the balls catch up to me and the boss isn't even anywhere near me because the ai is so fucking retarded. this isn't end "hard" in any way. just tedious as fuck for no reason whatsoever. there's no danger unless i let the balls catch up.
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>>181612885
I doubt they even know desu. Just look how they nerf things. Also i really like what they did with Viper Strike

>VS turns out to be strong in interaction with Assassin
>"Should we think of a way so it's not too op when combined with Assassin?"
>"Nah fuck that, just nerf the skill all across the board"

And now you have a skill that's borderline garbage unless you use it with that one specific class. Ascendancies were a mistake.
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>>181613163
Just play """"""melee"""""".
>>
Interesting lab layout so far.
>>
Okay, wat.
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>>181613627
>>181613726
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1899252
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Where did you people get your beta keys?

Don't tell me you paid for them?
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>>181613328
>melee
>Clear mob across half your screen
What do they mean by this?
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>>181613845
10$ in the weekend or 25$ from supporter pack.
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>>181613726
Still 6 room longer than it should be on normal
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>>181613627
>>181613726
>>181613819
>you still have to clear every single trial and every single lab to be able to do the uber version
End me.
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>>181613726
>a """"""""""""labyrinth"""""""""" with the layout of strand
""""hardcore"""" """difficult""""" game
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>>181613280

No, Ascendancies were not a mistake. Chris is.
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>try labyrinth for first time
>going fine
>Hidden coffer
>blinded by greed
and back to town
>>
Do the little flying banner shits give full xp? Farming The Harbour Bridge doesn't feel at all as efficient as it should considering the amount of those mobs.
>>
>Literally the only way you can die is from reflect
>First 100s that struggle to kill blue packs
>And fail to kill rares unless they're in the middle of herald of ice explosion
>>
I'm going to win a demi with 4 default tabs
>>
what the fuck are you on about
>>
So i decided to use Path of Building to see what build i ca do with my former lv 91 Scion. Back in the day, Ascendant Scion with Explosive Arrow was something - really nice build, just like Voltax Chaos Spark and Mjolner.

But now... Its terrible. And 3.0 made it worse still.
>>
oh no my shitty build from 5 years ago is now outdated in a game that is evolving

write about it in your diary, princess
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>>181615276

No, im just saying that balancing is terrible. And GGG is always trying to shove in meta.

>princess

Id like too.
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yo dudes just got into the closed beta. What's the most fun build thats somewhat viable you guys have found so far? not sure what I want to do for a first build.
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play rf my friend. i heard it was improved.
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>>181615895

How did you get into beta?
>>
so the whole new pierce mechanic is fucking useless and ek nova will feel clunky as fuck with it. just why.
>>
>proj pierce from gem capping at like 7
whoa so fucking useless muh build

retard
>>
first they kill AoE, then ES nodes, and now they kill projectiles ... aint gonna be a game left once 3.0 is out at this rate
>>
>>181613726
Thank fuck. Fighting Izaro is the only fun part of lab.
>>
>7
>thanks ggg! *slurp*
t. someone who's never run a single map with any +packsize
>>
ggg simplifying lab is on par with the loot allocation patch to me in terms of casualization, that they'd rather appeal to the lowest common denominator than uphold their design vision and ideals. it really isn't going to stop until uber lab is a one instance straight line
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>>181617894
>Making lab shorter
>Casualization
You say that as if the main thing killing shitters is the traps. What actually kills them is Izaro.

Plus what you fucking retards keep missing is that everyone went through the lab in a straight line anyway because no one ever bothered with side areas since they're completely unrewarding.
>>
Watching that Yugul fight and i have to wonder, how the fuck is a melee (not i-kill-you-from-2-screens-across-melee) character gonna kill that? Those degen balls are faster than the boss itself.
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>>181617894
>make lab easier
>shitters still complain that you don't get ascendancy points for free
there really is no way to appease them
>>
yes 2 golden key days sure is a straight line

stop saying it's unrewarding, you've absolutely conditioned yourself to take ascendancy points, the single, largest enabler of power creep in the game, for complete granted. lab (which is """"difficult""""") gives ascendancy points (which are rewarding)

the difficulty and tedium is relative to the power of the rewards
>>
Trying to bake Caustic Arrow build for 3.0... So far Scion looks like a good candidate. Any recommendations?
>>
>>181618925
Occultist
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>>181618015
While I agree with you, when a feature is underwhelming, it is lazy to just remove it rather than reworking it.
>>
>>181618925
>>181618987
Is CA the only viable Poison skill at the moment? I just wanted to make a non-ED Poison-based Trickster in 3.0 but it seems GGG is determined not to let me do that desu.
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>>181619463
The problem is that the ascendancy chamber chests already make the lab rewarding enough if you're getting keys. Making side areas more rewarding would just make it way too profitable to run i think.
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>>181619989
Then there needs to be some tweaking to both.
>>
>>181619989
>>181620254
Have Izaro drop a key after each phase (if you fulfill the conditions) and put the chests in the side areas, E Z!
>>
that sounds gross and less viscerally fulfilling than doing 5 key runs and opening them all at once in the treasure room
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>>181619475

IDK. Im baking it in Path of Building, and so far, in order to make it any good, as in 70k dps in cloud, you need a shitton of good gear.

Ya gonna have to have Vulnerability self cast, atleast 5 frenzy charges, Witchfire Brew and Overflowing Chalice, rings and amy with 30% chaos damage from essence...

I mean, it can work for solo - the only difficult thing about it is getting 6 GG jewels, Drillneck and Witchfire Brew. +3 Bow too as well as lvl 4 empower.
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>>181620864

And here is the tree.

Nevermind the movement speed - i forgot to add 30% movespeed in stats.

Also, rings and ammy have no other rolls than 33% increased chaos damage. So life total might be higher.
>>
>>181620864
>>181620990
3.0 drillneck rework makes it totally fucking horrible for CA btw
>>
>>181620990

And skills are as follow:

CA (lvl21/q20)+ Conc Effect (20/20) + Empower(4) + Pierce (20/20) + Void Manipulation (20/20) + Slower Projectiles (20/20).

CA (21/20) + Conc Effect (20/20) + Inc Area (20/20) + Pierce (20/20) + Void Manipulation (20/20) + Slower Projectiles (20/20).

Vulnerability + Duration + Arean Effect + Faster Casting

Grace + Vitality.

Frenzy + GMP + Faster Attacks + Stone golem (for extra life regen).

>>181621151
I did not know that. Please tell me more.
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>>181621392
>>
>Vitality
>>
What build are you going to wun for the new 2-week league?

Either some Sunder action, or life-based Pathfinder Wander for me.
>>
something Scion
maybe BV, depending on mayhem mods
>>
>>181620990
The problem with Life CA is that you have no health sustain against shaper/guardians.

Going with Occultist+CI+Soul Strike gives you a lot more durability and doesn't gimp your damage.
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>paying to bugtest a free to play game
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>>181621441

Oh ffs. Why....? There are no bloody broken builds that use Drillneck for them to do that.

I mean, what the fuck?! And god's beard, its on reddit.

You fucks! You have your game's forum to say that!

>caring about ribbit more than your own game

I mean, why the forums then...

Y'know what, since i hit my 36, ill roll Scion just for that and see how far i can get before 3.0.

>>181623034
Absolutely true. Gonna have to run with 3 life pots.

Thing is, aint gonna do Shaper/Uber Atziri and Guardians.
>>
short-sighted meta-netbuilding shitter
>fucking ggg nerfing everything?? game unplayable?? muh build diversity :(
knowledgeable meta-creating theorycrafter
>*adapts*
>>
Meme cascade is pretty good for leveling.
>>
>>181623554

Are people are not allowed to express their outrage? Why so butthurt?
>>
imagine actually harboring outrage because of investment into a build you didn't even make

people said the sky was falling with the aura changes in 2.0 yet here we are up to 2.6 with newly defined metas that the good players make for the bad players

to reiterate the short-sighted part, the type of person who "expresses outrage" are those fundamentally averse to adapting and are unable or unwilling to see the game in constant flux
>>
Who thought it was a good idea to scale gems when you buy them from vendors?
>>
>>181624184
Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gay Games
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>>181623554

Besides, tossing out Pierce and Drillneck, and substituting them with Rearguard and Efficacy does the trick.
>>
it'd be nice to be able to reset gem levels to zero, at least for low quality gems, but i guess that would be too casual
>>
how many levels are you on because there are literal vendor recipes for resetting skill gems
>>
>>181624162

Wew.
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Just started this game what do i need to know and how does currency and selling items work? i noticed there's no gold.
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>>181624450
quit while you still can
>>
turn back while you can
save yourself
>>
just play solo and self found
poe is a solo game disguised as a trade simulator
>>
>>181624450

Abandon all hope ye who enter...

Save yourself from this hell.
>>
>>181624450
You either use the forums and poe.trade or buy premium stash tabs to sell shit. If you want to buy something search poe.trade for any sellers.

Also ignore the autistic no reply posters.
>>
*ignores*

quoth retard
>>
>>181624450
People usually buy and sell items using those "orbs" you drop (or get from vendor recipes). I'd say don't use any of it early since it's more likely you'll keep finding gear upgrades from drops.
>>
Does it matter if a unique belt is corrupted or not?
Since you can't socket them I don't need to interact with that, and you can't add craft mods to unique items

What other restrictions apply?
>>
>>181626493
If you don't plan on modifying it at all it doesn't matter.
>>
>>181626493
Some belts have implicits you don't want to get rid of.
>>
>>181626663
What else could I modify? re-rolling the mod numbers? Some other enchant?
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>>181623839
not that guy but the new meta is people open up PoB dick around for a bit and then go and cry because their spreadsheet doesn't have a high enough number. there is more to a build that your dps in PoB . the viper strike nerf is a perfect example of this, 'i get x dmg standing still for 20 seconds attacking' , looks op on paper, go try that in a map and see how it turns out. i have theorycrafted pretty op builds that look great on paper , build them in standard on a lvl 95 and they just don't play well or feel good. theorycrafting is step one, after that you build it in game and iterate it to prefection.

in other words pob is overrater
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>>181627095
your overrater
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>>181626493
corrupted items are a great way to save currency, if you know the gem links you will need you can get a cheap corrupted 6 link chest piece , not bis but better than a tabula. jewellery , amulets and belts in particular are usually cheap , people brick good amulets or belts trying for +1 curse or charges and sell for cheap, and 20/20 corrupted gems are dirt cheap.

>>181627253
second in my ascendancy in the 2 week, so yes i am overrater
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>>181627095

You are butthurt. I can understand that.
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>>181627561
butthurt about what, literally none of the changes have any impact on my playstyle whatsoever. worst case scenario the game goes in a direction i don't like, lose interest and stop playing
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>>181628074

Then why do you sperg out?
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>>181628312
whew lad, 4 sentences expressing an opinion of an application constitutes as sperging out to you. i will be sure to practice brevity in future posts as to not upset you.
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>>181600563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO4NDMT_l4c
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>>181628625
is this why anons don't use the reply function here?
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>>181582652
>60% chance to poison
>chance
>chance
>chance
Am I the only one starting to see a pattern (of shit) here?
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>>181591568
And Tornado Shot
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>>181629102
It's okay, they're adding chance to poison nodes on the tree to make up for it.
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>>181627095
If you have a bit more than 100 hours of playtime, and played a high variety of builds, then after looking at numbers you know a build is shit.
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>>181629102
No

>>181570149
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>>181629524
>80% total chance
Not good enough. You have to be right up in an enemy's face to use Viper Strike. If you're not applying Poison 100% of the time, you might as well not even bother.
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>>181629574
naw it doesn't work like that, like i said pob is a great first step but it shouldn't be the be-all and end-all. something can look good but just not play well, might feel laggy, maybe cast/attack speed doesn't feel the best in some situations. dominating blow for example, really easy to make an op dom blow build in pob, on paper it looks great, play it and it feels like shit, don't know for sure until you field test it.
also it takes most people way more than 100 hours before they can theorycraft an even remotely capable build, considering most people struggle with high yellow and low red maps even when following a build.
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>>181629871
You'll just have to use the lesser poison support.
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>>181617894
>uphold their design vision and ideals
>every new support gem
>more damage
>more damage
>more damage
>every support gem actually modifying how skills work is ded
Yeah fuck you, retard.
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retards
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>>181630379

>every support gem actually modifying how skills work is ded

Well, D3 did atleast one thing right i guess...
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>>181630379
hello r/eddit
you're still not getting your spiral support, kys yourself
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>>181630379
this bothered me the most. more multipliers are lazy, they offer no diversity. adding a few to compensate for the removal of double dipping makes sense, but every support as a more multiplier is retarded.
>>181630776
diablo 3 was my first thought when i saw the new support gems, no build diversity and shit itemisation of rares so they just stacked more multipliers on uniques, really feels like poe is going down the same road, not to mention most new uniques ggg release have little to no down side.
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>more multipliers are lazy
so the game has been lazy from the start
>they offer no diversity
so the game had no diversity from the start

remember GMP shotgunning? of course not, because you're a summershit who started playing 2 weeks ago and thinks his opinion matters
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>>181631298
I'm glad it's a free game
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>>181631298

Wew laddy, why so passive-agressive? You have issues, and they aint other people.
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if gems didn't give damage increases there wouldn't be a reason to go past 3 links on 99% of builds, you bunch of retarded redditor shits
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dude why can't every support add some nice functionality with zero damage multiplier lmao

i'm project pt and I want to play my gmp lmp blind knockback chance to flee spectral throw

soooooooooooooooo creative
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>>181630379
Threshold jewels are what support gems were supposed to be. I'm still mad they featured magma orb with slower proj and gmp in the xbox trailer because it gives people the wrong idea about gems.
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>>181631298
try again.
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bitterdream is reddit's and the average poeg shitter's wet dream
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>>181629791
95% chance to not die when taking damage.

>>181631667
No, threshold jewels are fucking shit design because they are either garbage or they're mandatory if you want to use that skill.
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>>181631768
>1569 days ago was 4 years ago
damn years are actually really short
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>>181631768
they must be doing something right if you're still here complaining like a baby

shouldn't you be pushing d3 ladder with your necro?
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>>181631667
>+2 projectiles
>+2 projectiles
>+1 projectile +aoe
>+10 projectiles
>rest is useless garbage
really makes me think
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>>181570149
new supports aren't supposed to be good in endgame, they're supposed to give an easily noticeable effect so that new players get accustomed to the support gem system
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>>181632104
except a percentage based proc actually gets better end game you fucking retard
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>>181631956
you really need to try harder man. and yeah ggg are doing a lot right, the overall direction of poe is looking great in 3.0, i don't agree with a shit load of more multipliers as i already stated i feel like it's a lazy mechanic, i also think the new volatiles are retarded, aside from that looks bretty gud
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>>181631091
>I am very upset by facts
Better see a proctologist.
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>>181631667
>Threshold jewels are what support gems were supposed to be
So Increased instead of More and no other changes?
Threshold Jewel system should be scrapped entirely and they should add a new system for these items outside of the Passive Tree and your gear sockets.
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did ESniggers kill themselves yet
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>>181632316
calling something "lazy" is a lazy criticism, you're a retard and will be called a retard until you can prove otherwise and point out a clear shift of the game towards "lazy" damage oriented design or suggest something better, since it should be easy to improve "lazy" design

more damage multipliers have been in the game from the start, make no mistake, and don't try to hide behind semantics because it used to be "increased" instead of "more" since the result was the same, i.e. people feeling some supports were mandatory

there's nothing wrong design wise with a more damage support with a downside, if anything it's the downside is too easily negated (e.g. crit builds using controlled destruction) which is a whole different issue
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>>181632895
"increased" and "more" "the result was the same" , opinion disregarded.
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>>181633143
that sure showed me, you're a master debater for sure

build diversity has only increased in recent years, you would know this if you had been active for 4+ years

but you're just a retarded d3 reject coming every summer for his yearly quota of retardation
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yea ok retard so you have 5 different skills that do essentially the same thing but in different elements

so much
fucking
DIVERSITY
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jokes on you. you only pick the ones w/ more dmg or cc.
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keep being vague

that sure is exposing GGG's laziness and your brilliant mastery of game design

truly debating with a genius here
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>>181633306
I think what he meant is that you could afford to drop an "increased" support gem in favor of adding some functionality to your skill. It's just that these days most skills are already more functional (you can't really compare shit like BF or Earthquake to Heavy Strike, Glacial Hammer or VS, in terms of base functions i mean) + the game having such a power creep that just using "more" support gems is a one-way street.

At least that's what i think desu.
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name 5 different skills essentially doing the same thing
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>>181632547
I wholeheartedly agree, there is no point in not using threshold gems with the skills you use
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vaal fireball
vaal righteous fire
vaal molten shell
vaal spark
vaal ice nova
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>>181633306
whats with the d3 thing? and if i was some avid d3 player, 1 , why wouldn't i be playing it now, and 2, wouldn't the changes i lazily complained about actually be more in tune to a design choice that i like , you know like diablo 3. increased and more are different mechanically , one is additive the other is multiplicative. you statement saying they provided the same result indicates that you don't know what you are talking about, you suck at trolling and your opinions are irrelevant.
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>>181633726
You just contradicted yourself, retard. If the game has more powercreep now AND the new skills have more built-in functionality, then it should be easier to drop a damage support, right?

You realize back in the day people weren't stacking 5 utility supports right? They stacked damage, just like now.
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every single lightning skill is garbage now rip vaal spark
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>>181634054
>increased and more are different mechanically , one is additive the other is multiplicative.
congratulations you troglodyte, you can understand the difference between the two, but not whether the impact on game diversity was the same or not. obviously not, cause you've been a shitter all your life and completely ignorant of past metas, including but not limited to:

auras snapshotting
old PA
shock stacking
burn prolif

>you suck at trolling and your opinions are irrelevant
you're a fucking retard who understands nothing about the concept of exponential power allocated to links (a 6th link should be significantly stronger than a 5l, not another 3 nodes worth of damage) and thus cannot understand the necessity of more damage multipliers, regardless of their form

fuck off back to your kiddie game, the support system obviously goes way over your head and you need to stick to your d3 rune system
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>>181634059
>then it should be easier to drop a damage support, right?
Not really, you just need all the damage you can get (at least for end-game content like Guardians/Shaper/Uber Atziri). Also, the skills having built-in functionality means you don't even have to use other support gems (aside from damage multipliers i mean). Back then people could drop a single "increased" multiplier since loosing that wasn't so severe to add some splash in their melee skills for example, but nowadays with skills like Ice Crush,etc+ their threshold jewels you don't need to, hence you focus only on damage.
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>>181634549
ironically i played them all, shock was a bug, aura snapshotting was annoying as fuck, and a bug. i still miss pa and burn prolif, but prolif was too op.
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Playing a summoner was better when you could summon more minions by keeping multiple gems at different levels
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>shock stacking was a bug
are you literally retarded
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>>181634718
>Not really, you just need all the damage you can get
Which is the opposite of power creep, moron. Choose your words carefully if you want to make a point.

>Back then people could drop a single "increased" multiplier since loosing that wasn't so severe to add some splash in their melee skills for example
Nobody would drop melee splash on a single target skill. It was melee splash and 4 damage supports, you're either clueless or have selective memory. Either a support is impactful, or it is not. The fact that you could easily make the decision of dropping one support meant it was shit/badly designed. Is the game more dumbed down now that you can't easily drop a damage support because a x1.4 damage multiplier is not an easy choice to give up?

> but nowadays with skills like Ice Crush,etc+ their threshold jewels you don't need to, hence you focus only on damage.
Just like before. The difference? Nowadays the end game content is harder and assumes you have 6L baseline for end-game, or a 5L with a pseudo 6th link in the form on an indirect multiplier. The necessity of stacking as much damage as possible while getting utility and sustain elsewhere creates build diversity.
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>>181635363
stacking was removed because it wasn't being calculated correctly. therefor a bug.
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>>181634838
yeah but dude, we had so much more build diversity back then because support gems were additive, not multiplicative!

*snapshots 10 auras*
*puts on my crown of eyes*

heh, nothing personel, kid
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> 4.4gb update

whats this?
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Thresholds jewels are a fucking joke. I'll give a pass to the ones that change the way the skill mechanically operates, like Barrage or EK.

But fuck me, things like Frost Blades? Really? A bit of increase in damage, a bit of penetration for the melee part of the skill, a bit of range for the projectile part? So just a "make the skill less shitty" jewel, "put two of them to get a non shit skill" jewel, "waste 4 skills points to make it on par with other skills" jewel. Just integrate those improvement into the skill itself and delete those jewels.
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>>181635621
>Choose your words carefully if you want to make a point.
My bad then. I guess i couldn't express myself correctly.

My biggest problem is what you say here
>Either a support is impactful, or it is not. The fact that you could easily make the decision of dropping one support meant it was shit/badly designed.

and how this applies to supports that don't give you "more" damage. Things like GMP, Chain and (from what it i've heard) Pierce might as well be deleted from the game at this point. If GGG stopped saying things like "look at all these awesome ways to change how your skill functions!" while it's almost always the worst option i wouldn't mind it as much desu.
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>>181636503
gmp is an example of a well designed gem, more projectiles but less damage,a higher levelled gem reduces the less multiplier. adding a more multiplier to pierce invalidated most of the pierce nodes on the tree.
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>>181630148
>great dom blow build
Yeah, my point still stands.
For building a decent build you need experience with the game. Just looking at Dominating Blow's damage number and saying "wow it's OP" is not going to cut it, you clearly don't understand PoE if you say that.
You have to know most of the skills to get a grap on how to make an okay build, and I'm not even going to say Shaper/Uber Atziri viable build. Preferably playing all active skills, you will get an idea what's good and what's shit, and how to look at PoB/spreadsheet numbers
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>>181637425
teach us grand master. to clarify i've only run the numbers in pob, are you saying that i can't use my OP dom blow build to farm shaper? what the heck.
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Why no
>Players cannot leech
map mod? I mean there's already
>Cannot regenerate life or mana
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>>181638056
i feel the same way about reflect , elemental and physical reflect? like wut
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>>181638056
>Of Congealment :Cannot Leech Life from Monsters, Cannot Leech Mana from Monsters
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Check out my extra expensive build that does nothing but dies from 1 shots and kills bosses in minutes.
60k dps without taste of hate.
But you can make it cheap as shit by sacrificing 10-20k dps and red nightmares for even more Fun.
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>>181638203
What in gods name are you doing?
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>>181637762
As if, I'd share my super secret spectre/dom blow build with you plebs
Come back when you have hit the 10k hours mark, fucking scrub
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>>181638315
not even memeing i was planing on running a dom blow spectre build in the next two week
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>>181638273
Clearly - adding LAYERS OF DEFENCE
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>>181638056
>>181638137
>>181638171

Idk guys, i think mods like these are great - they test build flexibility.
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>static strike
>block
>no crit, no rt, no eo
>147% life
nice build
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>>181638510
agreed, with the exception of chilled ground i fucking hate that shit so much. at least with temp chains it's consistent.
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Oh, you can put any melee skill - no special damage nodes. Go crazy.
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>>181638809
>chilled ground
At least status immunity/flasks help with that, those damn tar zombies on the other hand fuck those desu.
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you can do no damage with ANY MELEE SKILL YOU WANT? boy i'm sure playing this build as my 3.0 league starter
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is there any way to not look like a homeless faggot without pants without having to pay 40€ for an armor set?
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Damage is overrated.
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>>181639238
It's going to be hard to find damage in 3.0 so you may revisit that.
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>>181639109
yep, skin transfer any ingame armor. I highly recommend Ice Tomb.

Although, why do you complain about Templar? The is as manly as one can get. Aesthetics and all that.
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>>181639327
dont you have to pay for skin transfer though?
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>>181639109
Just don't play templar, ever. Ugly, worst class, worst ascend., specialized in killyourselfly boring totems. Just no.
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>>181639109
Templar looks terrible even with MTX.
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>>181639567
what does class have to do with pants?
sorry i came back after not playing since 2013
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>>181639640
>>181639567
What class would you recommend for the best looks then?
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>>181639546

Yeah, but it certainly aint 40 euros.
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>>181639546
Yes and it's a fucking ripoff that only retards partake in. Who the hell wants to pay to get a one time, temporary transfer for a single piece of gear.
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>>181639806
scion
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>>181639806
Depends on what you're going for but anyone but Templar is ok.

>>181639905
Scion is 2nd worst though because she stands like a bitch and it fucks up the armor somewhat.
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>>181639878
standard players
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>>181639878
me. I did. And to be quite honest, this is the single most used MTX ever in my stash. Super cheap too, you get like 20 for the price a couple of points.
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>>181640360
Like I said, retards.
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>>181638203
And that's what I call improvement. Cheap and simple - now everyone can endure poe in it's only true way.
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The Innocence fight is probably the best thing coming out of this 3.0 patch. And considering it's a mid-act 5 boss, that's fucking sad.
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>>181639327
>>181639546
You can find some pretty nice skins in game desu.
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>>181638171
I don't think I've ever seen a map with that mod.
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Is PoE's storyline worth following or should i just skip every dialogue
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>>181640704
that tells a lot about you, because it only appears on red maps
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>>181640526

Now post item and skill pages.

>>181640681

Ayy... . Bronn's Lithe + Leather hood with Mark of Phoenix... now that is something.

Grats on the race skin Alpha's.
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>>181640681
hahahahahahahahaha
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>>181640959
It changes every expansion, don't bother.
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>>181638203
Looks like you should go Ranger instead. Raider or Pathfinder if you are gay.
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>>181640962
your typical leddit balance shitter, what else did you expect?
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>>181640959
Its decent but really fragmented. Not really worth bothering with specially now that they're throwing gods at us.
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if you don't have multiple level 100s in hc, your opinion of end game is irrelevant
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>>181640681
Kintsugi on Duelist with the no armor MTX is great.
Kintsugi is damn good overall, honestly.
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>>181641004
>Grats on the race skin Alpha's.
Thanks desu.

>>181641045
Hey no bullying, just used what i found in my first tabs that had 3d, i wasn't going to check my 100+ standard tabs to mix&match.
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>>181641206
>running shaped strands until 100 makes you relevant
ok
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>>181641325
I wonder how long until Skin Transfers can be used cross-league.
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>>181641117
But my spellblock...
>>181641004
Skills aren't worth posting. No vaal haste\grace is active.
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I want to make a tanky as fuck character with 1h + shield that deals damage off of some type of reflection mechanic.

Is this possible in PoE? Is Juggernaut good or is it a support only character for parties?
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>>181641415
If i remember correctly, they said they have some plans for skin transfers but for later, so who knows, hopefully they'll do something like that.
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>>181641625
>Is Juggernaut good or is it a support only character for parties?
Are you by any chance fuckin retarded?
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>Is this possible in PoE?
No
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>>181641625
>reflection mechanic.
Nope.
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>>181641679
They said that like two years ago, amongst things like asynchronous racing, PvP and trading improvements. Take your guess what's going to happen to it.
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>premium tabs weren't a trading improvement
really provokes you to ponder
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>>181641625
You could try Vigilant Strike! It's a counter attack!
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>That one shitposting (You) denier in a sea of helpful and skilled /poeg/ oldfags that do not care about that reddit-level trend
Just give up retard
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>>181641729
wow anon, there's absolutely no need to be rude
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>Add hundreds of useless items in years

>Still 4 tabs

>Need to buy premium tab for comfort trading

FREE!
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>>181641625
There are a couple of counter skills, but no decent way of making a build centered entirely on reflected damage.
>Is Juggernaut good or is it a support only character for parties?
Its kind of a tanky no damage ascendancy if thats what you want.
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>>181642519
I've been saying this for a while now.
>Every League since they consolidated the Leagues (Talisman) has featured new stuff to clog your Inventory and Stash
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what's a good jugg support build
>>
life support
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>>181642519
If you've played enough to start worrying about stash space then you should probably stop being a stingy fuck and buy some tabs at least to support GGG for the hours you got of play.
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if those items are useless why do you need more space to store them you stupid little retard
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>>181642592
>no damage
so it's shit for solo?
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>>181642898
No, just don't expect to be as effective at clearing shit as most other ascendancies.
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>>181641625
reflect no, but there are plenty of cast when damage taken builds that would be similar to what you are looking for. a few leagues ago kripp built a build for his wife using like 9 cwdt skills and lots of leech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ZJtDxUe8w

second half of the video.
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>>181642883
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imagine making a build for your wife
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So I'm just starting..what can i expect social wise? Is the game mostly played solo? Or is user-interaction pretty common? Thanks for the answers friends.
>>
path of exile is strictly a solo game
you can play the tutorial with other players though
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>>181643171
Playing in parties is shit unless you're with friends. Global chat is almost as bad as /poeg/ so just keep it disabled. The only "user interaction" you will get is through trading.
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>>181642064
>premium tabs
>costs points or money
>you are still using a third party website in 2017 for trade
>improvement
>cross-instance trading was promised back in 2015
>GGG is selling beta keys for $10 if not $30 for the cheapest supporter pack
>the latest trade improvement news was "something minor, don't get hyped" by CW himself
That is the reason there should be a supporter pack refund option
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>>181643348
No, that's the reason why you shouldnt support these hacks with money.
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>>181643171
Party play with randoms is cancer but since trading is almost mandatory you'll get your fair share of player interaction.
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>>181643536
This desu. The last thing i bought from them is my currency tab and with my leftover points i just buy a single skin transfer every time they give a box as a gift. They can't even say "we need your support guiz!" anymore now that they get those Twitch/Xbone """partnerships""".
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>>181643338
>>181643776
thanks for answers, can I ask why playing with randoms is so bad? Are people assholes or just bad?
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This is easily the worst general on /vg/.
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>>181643536
I'm not disagreeing, but the option should be there, regardless. I'd love to refund all my money at this point
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>>181643878
>Are people assholes or just bad?
Both, though you can find decent groups in late game mapping, just don't expect to be able to keep up with autists.

>>181644075
If it wasn't for the MOBA generals i'd agree.
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the sanctity of poeg has been fouled
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>>181644203
By people who are actually trying to help others and discuss the game instead of just constantly shitposting? Go hide in the corner with all those (You)s you refuse to give.
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^summer
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>>181644176
>If it wasn't for the MOBA generals i'd agree.
Free to play games as a rule attract kids, NEET and entitled brainlets. But PoE has that special thing where it also requires you to be borderline autist to keep playing it.

As a result, there is nothing quite like /poeg/. It's like a social experiment gone wrong.
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>>181644570
By refusing to give (You)s you treat the other posts as not worthy of replying/paying attention to, so you pretty much treat (You)s as upvotes, literally plebbit desu.
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>>181632547

this nigga here is right
threshold jewels are doing the job of the so called "customise your skill" system that GGG sold to xbonebabbies

in fact, a system for threshold jewels would be more interesting than pantheon system
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My friend just picked up a dropped Witchfire Brew. Is this basically the best damage flask for a melee build? It seems to be a ton of fun.
>>
nothing screams intelligence as much as dropping $50 to play a masterpiece like d3
>>
The smell of shitcrows surrounds me
>>
all who deny me (You)s... beware...
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>>181644787
This. Those redditors are literally trying to bring their beloved system in here, where it has no place. this is beyond disgusting, and should be a bannable offense.
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>>181563176
uses ONE exalted orb
fucking noob
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>>181644980
> Is this basically the best damage flask for a melee build?
No, Taste of Hate and Vinktars are vastly superior. Lion's Roar is good too.
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@181645167
what you gonna do little boy
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>>181644991
who are you even trying to answer to retard?
just fuck off
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what if everyone here is extremely intelligent but pretending to be retarded
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too much quote posting
baka
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@181645290
*does hand gesture on neck*
mess with the best, die like the rest
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I just reported the whole thread for deletion since it has nothing to do with a general anymore. Doesn't even has the name of a game in the OP.
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>Those redditors are literally trying to bring their beloved system in here, where it has no place. this is beyond disgusting, and should be a bannable offense.
It's quite the opposite. Faggots that complain about not getting (You)s should be deported back to their upboat system.
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>>181645257
Alright, they seem pretty cool. He should probably get one of those later on.

I never thought much of flasks in my builds, I just use life flasks, resistance flasks and a quicksilver, but my friend is currently using two damage boosting ones (overflowing chalice and witchfire brew) and it gives him pretty good clear speed, atleast for levelling.
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>Faggots that complain should be deported
Correct
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Is it me or are the servers particularly laggy recently?
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yugul fight is fucking aids
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>>181646480
Are you melee? Cause i imagine that'd be even more fun. And i don't mean """"melee"""" like earthquake/sunder.
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>>181646105
Except there are 0 posts complaining about not getting you because no ones gives a shit in here.
It's only you that ascribe an inherent value to a reply that has intrinsically none.

Don't search too much inside yourself to find why you think so. You're just inherently a redditor, nothing wrong about that, except of course you should fuck off back where you belong.
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>>181643058
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>several posts all complaining about not getting (you)'s
Your right no one is complaining.
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>>181646830
>There were people complaining about the
"jew" abbreviation used by players in the forums
How the fuck do you get so thin-skinned?
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>181646792
I don't go there, and you're posting here complaining about not getting (You)s right now. Fuck off.
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>>181648438
how to spot redditshits: they think getting (You)s is some kind of validation
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It's funny because it's both, that's why they whine
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>>181648941
Do you feel validated by this hereby (You)?
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>>181648941
Desu i don't care either way. Replies are only needed when there is some sort of conversation going on and these threads have devolved into pure shitposting, so nothing's lost.
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>>181649409
I honestly don't give a fuck. It's not like (you)'s are special or hard to come by. How do (you) feel about this (you)?
>>181649463
This. I only started doing the no reply replies because it upset people.
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And I only started the reply replies to the no reply replies people because it upsets them.
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>>181649409
>>181649463
>>181649605
>>181648941

Will you fuckers stop it already. Be constructive.

We need to figure out what to do in 3.0.
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>>181650056
>Be constructive.
Why? GGG will just nerf whatever we think of by the time 3.0 drops. So far i've had 3 builds (not detailed ones but a general idea of what to make) shot down, i just give up.
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>>181650056
It's all fun and games bro, just a way to past the time while waiting for catshitter to entertain us with his new shitty build idea.

>>181649605
I honestly don't give a fuck either. No one does. That's why this meme is so fucking stupid. Have fun anyway, I give up.
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>>181650056
I'm going to do a hybrid ice trap build and maybe try a GC trap then go something with CI once I build up some gear, probably just transition the trapper from hybrid to CI. Or if we are actually sure CI is dead do a full block build with the new shield affixes not sure what skills with him yet, probably sunder or EQ but might meme it up with something else.
Thinking of what to do isn't hard at all, my only concern is melee and traps might have a hard time with these new bosses that aren't on the actual map
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>>181561397
>playing the beta
Im not retarded
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>>181650449

>new bosses that aren't on the actual map

What. Please, tell me more.
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>>181562056
Who doesn't wanna be a cute 47 year old girl?
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>>181651214
I'm guessing he's talking about bosses like the Kitava fight in act 5 or Araakali.
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I have been on d2g during its peak in shitposting, but I have to say this is by far the worst general I have ever seen.
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>>181651214
That cunt that float off the side and hits you with his arms I saw someone struggling vs him with totems beam cause they couldn't reach the boss. Not sure how the fight works and can't be arsed playing beta to figure it out.
>>181651505
I think it's the kitava one. It's like a statue off the side of a building or something
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>no anime for at least 100 posts
>3.0 isnt out yet
>i can fix one of these things
for free
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>>181651604
Yeah, the one you're talking about is the Kitava one. From what i've seen Arakaali in act 7 is the same shit, she just sits on the edge of the arena and spams those lasers.
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>>181651704
>Gintama
Good taste senpai. And i'm a faggot for wanting to watch the live action desu.
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>>181651756
They seem like a big fuck you to melee so that makes me hesitate playing anything that targets the ground. A projectile build first will probably be the most sensible
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>>181651883
>>Gintama
>Good taste

I tip my hat to you fellow jojobro, us jojobros need to stick together amirite jojobros?
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>>181652030
>not liking Gintama
>>>/a/
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>>181651892
>melee
Chris don't want people to play melee. "Melee" on the other hand is fine.
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when is new season starting?
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early never
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>>181652242
EARLY JULY
A
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L
Y

J
U
L
Y
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>>181563226
>>181603781
It's going from to 2 - 8 global to 4 - 7 local so less damage but you get a stat stick or a shield. I assume Doryani's Catalyst is the best stat stick if the 100% ele damage is global (never used it myself.)
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>>181651892
>>181651604
>>181651756

Well shit.

Gonna need to watch some videos or stream or something. I kind want to get the beta key to see it for myself, but i dont want to buy the damn key.
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>>181652334
we're almost halfway through july th
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>>181652192
>tfw my favourite build and a build I play every league is dual strike
It was my first build and I just want it to be good. Good thing they keep adding uniques that make it a bit different.
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>>181652385
Knowing ziggy he has probably got a video for each new boss fight
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>>181652465
Anonymous 07/04/17(Tue)17:36:15 No.181652465 â–¶
>>181652334
we're almost halfway through july th

07/04/17(Tue)

04
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>>181652465
Ok, seriously now, we don't know. They keep postponing it all the time so despite GGG saying "late July to early August" at the moment, i'm expecting mid to late August and even that's optimistic.
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>>181653005

Probably September. They still have to dish out act 9 and 10.
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>>181653005
at least late august , probably september tho. they will be running another 2 week after this one ends, probably a week between the end of this race and the start of the next which takes us into august. but hey, legacy is still active.
>>181653436
act 10 won't be in the beta, not sure about act 9.
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>>181653670
i believe they're holding onto act 9 aswell
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>3.0
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>>181653670
>>181653729
They've said acts 9 and 10 will not be in beta. I can only imagine the broken shit they'll deliver, gonna be fun.
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>>181654850
Broken launches are always fun, everyone collectively raging about the same thing is and will always be a good time

I cant wait for the buggy shitshow that is act 9/10
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>>181652242
Their latest notes on it are mid-August and the Legacy League is going to go on indefinitely until they nail down a specific date.
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>>181654850
>Act 9
I doubt it'll honestly be that bad, for some reason. Except maybe the Beast.
That said,
>Act 10
This will be an absolute fucking shitshow.
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>>181655219
Fuck hell, this shit better be delayed until late August or I'm going to be pissed.
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>>181655169
>>181655368
I don't know which will be better, people getting fucked over bugs or people crying after their 1000th death on an overtuned boss (like release Malachai x 100)?
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>>181644787
>>181645174
So that's why people don't respond. Do they not realize that (You)s mean nothing?
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>>181656028
>Release Kitava 2 will be harder than Shaper
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new pierce is actually better than old pierce if i'm correct in my calculations
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gintama was alright in the beginning, but then it became repetitive and shit
i'd say like path of exile, but poe was never good
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I hope decent builds in 3.0 are fun
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>>181656485
You're not.
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>>181656485
Versus large packs, it's objectively worse. Overall, it's better. That said, be wary of Breaches.
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>>181656628
The new mechanics make pierce support mandatory for any character than needs to pierce at all. Passives do nothing, quiver mods do nothing, ascendancy passives do nothing. If you want to pierce you have to have the pierce gem and even then it's barely worthwhile.

This is doing to bows what the AoE changes did to the AoE skills that didn't get buffed. They're still possible to use but you're not going to because they're shit to play. Combine this with the fact that projectile spells that innately had pierce before still have infinite pierce while no attacks got that treatment and you're going to get a league full of people only playing projectile spells like Frostbolt.
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>>181657152
>any character than needs to pierce
They already did that tho.
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>>181657485
There were other options for Scion.
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>>181657579
Nobody played Scion.
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I just installed this game after playing Diablo 3 for several years. Any advice guys? Is there like a poeg group or clan or anything? I liked playing the wizard in Diablo, so what build do you reccomend.
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>>181657704
And now there's even less reason.

>>181657749
The poeg guild is dead. Read a guide unless you want to give up at level 45.
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>>181657152
The new mechanic would have been so nice back when there was a reflect aura. Would have stopped a lot of off screen reflect deaths.
I think the new mechanic has a lot of promise. There will be + 1 peirce passives, there is +1 peirce quivers, unique quivers can be changed, unique bows can be changed, there will the +1 or more ascendancy nodes. I think it is a great change 2bh and will make it more interesting with chain vs peirce vs fork. It opens up options for more interesting mechanics imo.
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making pierce worse is actually making it better
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>>181657910
Whoops I mean fuck ggg for not making the game how I want it and addressing the power creep we have complained about for years. My bad
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only bad players complained about "power creep"
no one sits up at night and thinks, "i hope they make playing the game bad so i can finally use fork gem again"
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>>181657910
>interesting with chain vs peirce vs fork
What? There's still no scenario where you'd use chain or fork over pierce with their less mods and pierce's more. Plus, investing more than the gem is worthless since going from 7 pierces to 8 or 9 is less likely to actually boost clear more than just firing off another projectile.
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>>181658257
They could also buff it i don't mind desu.
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at the point where you realize that your original vision for support gem mechanics was bad due to combinatorial complexity just start trimming mistakes
you have gems with implicit support mechanics, and now you have jewels that provide implicit support mechanics
it is now not possible to balance anymore
the game is a mess
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only bad players complain about their toys being taken away
shitters will complain and cry that they can't trivialize the game anymore, while the actual good players will make the new metas for those shitters to netbuild and trivialize the game anyway
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WTF I love power creep now? Or do I still hate power creep and no longer win any race demis. Can you tell me oh wise one who thinks he knows everything.
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>>181657749
watch streams
play the game
look at the wiki
ask questions
you wont hit level cap
play the game
read guides on the forums
watch guides on youtube
dont fall for the HC or you're shit meme
go to poe.trade to trade for gear
there is no gold
play the game
buy gear > crafting gear (until you know what you're doing)
play the game
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>>181658620
It is possible to balance, there's just no one in New Zealand that GGG can hire to do it apparently.

>>181658257
The only people that complain about power creep are people like PT that can't accept that game design has moved on from the 90s and the majority of people don't want to spend 2 hours clearing a map one enemy at a time.
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>demis
>relevant
Post when you have something like >>181640681 you wippersnapper.
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>>181659027
so the recognition of being the literal best of a given class is worse than grinding points over a month like any chimp can do

k
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>>181659321
Demis would be relevant if you could make them permanent MTX.
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"2 hours clearing a map"
yes as opposed to the opposite hyperbole of killing the absolute endgame boss by sipping a flask and dps'ing through his damage for 4 seconds and clearing 90 second strands while watching tv

except those scenarios aren't hyperbole at all considering they're the reality

reminder baker took 6 months to world first 100
reminder steyox sub-24 hour 2.6 100s, but no le power creep is fine :) - quoth the shitter that started playing in 2.4
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>>181659027
I have alt arts and league rewards too, demis are far more valuable
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>>181659321
I'm still winning demis, i don't see you winning any alt arts. Check and mate.
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remember when map xp was shit and hard to get
great times
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Why isn't "immune to elemental" or "immune to chaos" or "immune to physical" etc something that can be rolled on maps
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>>181658545
pierce+chain is sleeper gg if you know how to gear for it and i'm glad people like you don't understand that so that there's not much spotlight on it

less multipliers are meaningless, especially now that double dipping is out, when the total damage per hit can be scaled so high nowadays
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>>181659485
Oh good, no-quote anon is back. I thought you'd been hit by a car or something.
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permanent, exclusive MTXs > demi's

idc about standard and i've never won a demi
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>>181659664
remember when you couldn't sustain high level maps?
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The 7 targets pierced from the gem plus 1 or so off the tree/ascendancy/quiver still pierces the same number of targets you usually did but now it's slightly easier to get. Don't see why the shitters are so upset about it to be frank.
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you could have a busted character and it would take you forever to level anyway, because the game was bad
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>>181659786
You can't scale that high anymore. Crit multi is getting nerfed across the board.
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Fireball+GMP+LMP+Chain+Blind+Knockback for party play good?
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>>181659928
Remember when you could?
Still waiting for that day.
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>i want to play poe but make it a mobile game where i can just spin the wheel and win win win :)
t. power creep is fine
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yes adjust the game state until it reaches the point that you desire so that people will actually play your game and buy microtransactions
all rpgs are about is adjusting stats to fine tune your treadmill
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unironically what are you even doing if you can't sustain red maps, not even just shaped maps
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>>181657749
If I were you, I would actually play the wizard.
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>>181659485
>4 seconds
shit build desu
A good ele conversion blade flurry with a off-hand Moonbender's Wing shouldn't take you more than 1-2s to kill Shaper last phase from full life.
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Izaro has giben be munchausens syndrome
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ive never played an ARPG before and POE just finished loading, should I play hardcore?
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>>181662195
think for yourself
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>>181662195
No.
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>>181662195
No, Diablo 3's better for a first timer.
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Any suggestions on bow builds to try one last time before bows are removed next league?
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Have you considered not over reacting?
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play a ys game or dark souls instead of a diablo clone
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Y'all niggas need anime.
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>>181656485
What does Projectile Weakness do now? +2 to pierce?
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for when your life being welcome to the nhk would be an improvement
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>>181663661
That's not an animoo
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>Wake up
>Pathfinder is somehow still in the game despite being the most OP shit ever conceived in any game ever
>/poeg/ is still shit
>Chris Wilson's son still loves his unique flasks so daddy won't touch them
>Still no threshold jewels vendor despite some skills being literally unusable without them
>Pathfinder can still perma mega OP buffs that shit on all others ascendancies because Wilson's son is a little faggot
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>>181663661
brown girls are the best
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wrong
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>>181655219
I hope legacy league will just transition to being normal league. I don't see the point of not having all these features, plus if they release the game for Xbone soon that new playerbase will miss out on that.
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I'm 45. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to get to 85. I'll just drop the race.
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level 45 is barely playing tier
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>Spirit eater
>40% increased Damage if you have consumed a corpse recently
Does that apply to my minions aswell?
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I started playing this friday don't judge me
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>>181665347

>wilson's son

Ziggy?

>no threshold jewels vendor

Frankly speaking, there needs to be a shitton of vendor recipes for a LOT of shit in PoE, as well as Uncle Cadiro as a master to sell those decorations and take your currencies.

>>181666193

I hope so too. Just one thing - not just 3 leaguestones at a time - 5 or 6 would be soo much better.

And for them not to be corruptable, as in - alt/aug sink.
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>>181666193
>Legacy
They also confirmed a while ago that Legacy will NOT be rolling into base-game at all as a mechanic, but may come back as a future temp. League/Race mechanic.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1904365
>While we look forward to using Legacy again at some point in the future, we will not be adding it to the core game at this time.
>Reliquary Keys ... will continue to function after they transfer to Standard and Hardcore but will no longer drop.
>but in 3.0.0 we will be looking forward, and will not be offering these legacy items again. We may make use of the foiling effect or a Reliquary Key-like system that drops different uniques in the future.
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>>181666569
Well, that just really fucking sucks and is bullshit. But I guess they need something in the back for when they run out of ideas for leagues.
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wouldn't suggest mayhem as an entryway into poe
you need to know what to skip to level efficiently, and then there's all of this shit in every instance you don't even know what it does
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>>181666754
>>181666569

Paid league.
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No I mean I started the race, not the game. I started on perandus league.
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i wouldnt suggest this time period as an entryway into poe
you need to develop and build a time machine and go back to 2012 when the game still fun
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>>181667010
I'm having fun with the game. In what way was it more fun back then?
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the game was not more fun before
it was tedious and desync made the game an actual joke
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>>181667010
>>181667163
Learn to reply you summer fuck.
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i hope you're tryn to bate
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>>181667109
There were actual build options. Now you chose one of 3 builds GGG allows people to play at the end game and go from there. It's a lot more like Diablo 3 now.
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unless you are moot i guarantee i've been here for longer than you
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>>181667292
You'd be incorrect.
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ok
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>You're a newfag!
>No u
It literally doesn't matter. Get over yourselves and have fun.
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>>181667291
Oh, I see. I rarely get a character to absolute end game anyway, so that doesn't concern me.
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been playing this game for over 4k hours, what did I think of it?
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>>181667670
You don't make it to maps?
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you thought you should continue to play just a little more despite deriving no enjoyment from doing so for 3.8k of those hours
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you thought that it was a good game that gave exactly what you wanted while slipping a few pieces of shit here and there but that it has now gotten a bit stale and seems devolving into a console game
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>>181667835
I do, but not to the later tier maps. Usually get bored then until I start playing again half a year later with a friend.
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imagine being such a steam user that you think console game is a pejorative
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>>181668126
Then you've been affected.
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last console i owned was a sega genesis. been playing shit on pc ever since
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>>181668515
Doesn't matter had fun.
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>>181668598
You missed out on Majora's Mask, but otherwise fair.
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>*fires up cosmo's cosmic adventure*
>super metroid is ok for a console game, but i stick to real pc games for pc gamers
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So really fucking stupid question since I've never really invested a whole lot of time into this game. Are the flat stat passives better than the ones, say, for Templar that add +15% elemental damage early on or no?
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>>181668978
flat stat passives are just "navigation", except the +30 ones you may sometimes need for gearing up while leveing
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>>181668057

I wish i could go back to 2013 and tell myself to learn french or electronics engineering... instead of playing... that.
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would definitely suggest studying ee classes tbqh
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>>181669564
>electronics engineering
You still can.
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Why does PoE insist on making it really hard to respec? If making builds is all the fun then why make getting to that point the most unfun part of the game?
>cause people will cheese up and then respec
Yeah so? People already cheese some other way or make it easier themselves, it's not going to detriment them that much unless they're a pure aurobot.

I only post this because I noticed one of the most subscribed items for Torchlight II via Steam workshop is respec potion, which makes me think players want the option more than not to actually change their builds.
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Is this, like, your thing? You come here to complain about leveling in PoE and namedrop Torchlight?
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>>181670190
There is this idea that passive allocation is a thing and it being semi-permanent adds weight to that choice.

Of course this doesnt mean anything as most people plan their builds beforehand or just copy them. And have leveling paths planned within the allotted quest respec points, etc.

And any "rich" player can cheese respcts.

So it leaves one explanation: they want to keep the most casual players away
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i think the underlying conceit is that making respecs expensive will increase the amount of time players play the game
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torchlight is a pile of shit and the respec potion is a fucking hack you retard
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>>181670847
maybe when you could pretty much make any build with any starting point.
but now there are strictly better starting points for builds "thanks" to ascendancy

>>181670929
tls are good and bot tls have been purposeful moddable which is why people still play them at all
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The game gives you dozens of free points and regrets are worth barely more than a chaos. For one exalt you can respec more than half your character. How much easier do you need it to be?
>>
the kind of players that cant ever make even an exalt are what ggg is trying to keep away by making respec not free. imo its a mistake, those are kind of kids that blow $500 weekly on marvel heroes
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>>181671360
Plus GGG sells currency directly.
>>
I've never had an exalt drop but a friend I know had like 7 within a week of playing legacy. He bought my Last One Standing div card ;_;
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You think they can compete with Blizzard or Valve? They want the Train Simulator crowd, dumbass.
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chris wilson isn't trying to keep anyone away
he wants to sell you a fifteen dollar stash tab
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So I just finished Act 8 and then ripped in a map because lmoa +6 levels, what do now?
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you kys for paying to be a beta tester
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>>181672168
You keep mapping obviously.
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it's completely free
just complete a shop minigame and you are good to go
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don't play hardcore in a beta next time? retard lol
>>
Where do i get the Oriath soundtrack after buying a goypack?
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>>181672581
I ain't no shitcrow.
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>>181672872
Then you're an idiot. Why would you play HC in beta?
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>>181672827
ask bex for the redtube code for it
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>>181673004
So I don't rip 4 chars before I get the bosses down obviously. I did a softcore char in beta phase 1 and it instantly makes you not pay any attention because you subconsciously know nothing matters.
>>
your mentality towards bossing is a function of you, not the game mode

this shouldn't be a difficult concept to understand
>>
>rip 4 chars
>softcore

Just be honest. You rolled something boring and safe af like MoM Pizza Sticks and babied your way through because having a reason to shitpost here is more interesting to you than actually playing around with the new content.
>>
t. retard cuck
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>>181673283
That sounds like that's your problem. It's not universal for playing on SC.
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If you touch SC at all for any reason you're an instant shitter.
>>
>every top ladder player is a shitter for scouting new act info
t. muh hc shitter that has never broken into red maps
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>Need to be in SC to check out the new acts

hello retard build
>>
top ladder hc scouting info > you dying in t1 maps

this is why they're top ladder because they're not retards
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>scouting existing maps that weren't changed
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Dude, he finished all the available Acts, why do you pretend like he missed something?
>>
>maps that weren't changed

How out of touch are you?
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>>181674583
At the very least he could be testing the new unique and skill interactions.
>>
Name one change to the mapping system that matters in 3.0
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>>181674683
His char is now in SC, he still can. I totally get trying to train bosses under "real world" conditions and don't get why this autist is getting riled up because of it.
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>>181674907
It's because he's retarded. Just ignore him.
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>>181674813
uh skills have changed ? which effects mapping?
It's not like you have 5 link or 6 links before maps
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>>181675292
>>181675292
>>181675292
>>181675292
>>
>Victario's Charity 3D art
YES.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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