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Blood is balanced

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Negromancer

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KMR has decided that the next expansion will focus on making Forest top tier.

Design a legendary that will carry the class to t0 by itself.

>>181511025
you will have to change it for bloodcancer soon

>>181511006
Like Yurius.

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I'm in love with my beautiful wife Unica!

You now need to be in vengeance for Baphomet to use his enhance effect.

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>>181511086
looks balanced to me

>>181511057
Deeperwood Anomaly
10pp 1/1 storm
If this follower attacks the enemy leader, they die in real life

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>>181511086
This is not ok

>>181511123
She's a kid, you creep.

nerf yurius pls thank you

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OH SHIT HERE IT COMES I'M 100% FUCKED AAAAA

>>181511308
remember the fond days of wanting to nerf yurius

>>181511320
JABBAHWAKU
BANKAI

https://twitter.com/GameAI_jp/status/881797617331482627

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>>181511373
Oh.....
Oh.

>>181511361
That sounds wrong. Is it fond days or fond rememberance of those days? Please teach an ESL.

>>181510968
Don't make threads so early you autist.

>>181511320
ZAYUS
ZAYUS
SOUZO

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>>181511402

>>181511402
That's one sad dragon.

>>181511402
You still seem kinda boned unless you topdick Alucard, though.

>>181511478
He has TWO Revelation in his hand dude, are you blind?

>>181511478
>two revelations and a sabreur
I think he's fine

>>181511402
>Meanwhile, Satan Cat pulls a ZEUS from one fucking ivory dragon

>>181511402
>two feenas
He should only have two in his deck, assuming he already played one and evolved it for the 0pp gobu he's dumb for apparently having 3. Still hilarious
>ramping dragon slut in jabbermeme
Now that's full retard

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>>181511193
>surviving to turn 10 in ungaverse
It's shit

>>181511525
>>181511543
If he runs Jabber, he's gonna have three Fortes and three Genesis and maybe even some Zeuses.

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Non-Lego Neutral followers that saw play of each expanion
>Standard
Healing Angel
Goblinmount
Wind God
>DE
Unica
>RoB
Lyrial
Goblin Mage
AotW
Uriel
Feena
>TotG
Grimnir
Grimnir
Goblin Princess
Grimnir
>WLD
Feria
Goblin Leader
Ephemera
Rapunzel

Just compare the strength of Standard and DE era neutrals to TotG and WLD
And now they have huge synergy among themselves

>>181511668
I played Revelation and went face, he played Zeus, I killed it with evolved Righteous Devil and attacked with Spawn for lethal

>>181511717
Ding dong was played a lot in standard too

Do they actually ban people for leaving the game or are they just trying to trick me into not leaving when shitters get lucky and start spamming emotes

>look through forest and neutral cards
>all that powercreep
So every forest deck that doesn't have neutral in it is dead,isn't it?

also post forest deck that isn't dead right now

>>181511792
Correct, slipped my mind somehow

>>181511717
Uriel is shit.

>>181511849
Forest only got like 1 or 2 usable cards each expansion so of course they need to use neutral now. The only thing that made the class playable in RoB were two neutrals.

>>181511816
You can leave, just don't close the app/game before doing so.

>>181511890
Uriel was used in decks to fetch specific amulets
I forgot about Urd as well

>>181511717
I think you listed Grimnir thrice

>expansion came out just recently
>25 minutes into the thread and only 40 posts
Dead general alright

>>181511982
Once for each copy included in every deck

>>181511926
yeah that's what i mean
obviously you can concede, if you couldn't that would be retarded

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>Forest uses Forest of Dreams to lock my Spawn down
>Drop Esmeralda
I got an image in my head, it involves Vampy sitting at a school desk taking notes while Teacher Luna is teaching from a blackboard with the words "How to be Cancer" written on it.

>>181511945
Yeah and those decks were shit.
>Just play this understatted do nothing follower to fetch another do nothing card
Uriel never saw play in actual meta decks.
The amulet support in this game is a fucking joke in general.

>>181512018
It's because if you close the app/game before you concede they have to wait out the 90 seconds.

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>>181511849
>also post forest deck that isn't dead right now

>>181512078
yeah that's the goal
if they're going to BM me why shouldn't I be able to BM them

>>181512087
"forest"
yeah forest is fucking dead
good god

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LOL

>>181512024
Please understand, the mtg pros working at cygames could have never foreseen people playing Emeralda to clear the way for Spawn.

>>181512120
Turn off enemy emotes.

Cygames learned nothing from Tempest. I'm not even going to bother waiting around for possible changes at the end of the month. Hope the rest of you enjoy this meta somehow, but I've had enough.

>>181512087
Pretty sure this deck would have a higher winrate than B&B decks

>>181512141
isra and genesis, evolve istra clear ward 2 dmg face + 10 dragon
nice

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>>181511086
>73.4% / 49.8%
holy fuck

>>181512240
>not giving him the Zell + Bahamut dick for the good old times

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I just wanted to clear a daily in unranked, but holy shit, defend this.

>>181512240
You're 3 damage off

>>181512279
He would die from Spawn's last words then.

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>mfw some swordbab somehow makes it to turn 9 and plays Albert
LMAO 10 DAMAGE ON TURN 9
HOW CUTE

>>181511389
What's with the rites I see a lot of burn rune teching in?

x3 seems pretty excessive

>>181512382
Spawn is not in ambush retard

>>181512382
Spawn is clearly not in ambush
Are you dumb

>>181512359
>2 hp on turn 5
what the fuck happened

>>181512359
It's not Spawn of the Abyss. Really easy to defend.

>>181512382
Nah, that Spawn isn't in Ambush so it wouldnt hit his face. QueBahaZell would do it just fine.

>>181512424
Yes, apparently. Or just triggered from seeing it being evolved immediately after dropping.

>>181512439
I was once down to 6hp on turn 4 against sword

>>181511389
How does the rites enchance 5 pp work If you reduce it cost to 1 with OZ ?

>>181512417
x3 for cinderella or other massively buffed neutral low cost follower

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>>181511086
Gonna be smooth sailing until Master. Thanks, KMR.

>>181512580
If you have at least 5pp, it would cost 5, otherwise 1.

which sv has the tightest cunny

>>181512730
medusa

>>181512730
discord

>>181512730
Isabelle. She's still a virgin as she was saving herself for marriage.

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>>181512730

>>181511057
7/6pp 4/3 rush last words:draw the highest cost follower in your deck and give it "fanfare: if at least 2 cards have been played this turn gain storm"

any siren deck

>>181512376
shiet right I gor confused and thought genesis dragon dealt 10 damage
you can tell I'm not a dragon player I guess

>>181512898
>doesn't even reduce the cost
Good luck surviving to drop whatever you fetched.

>>181511057
Fuck forest. Seriously. Worst fucking craft and worst fucking players. I hope it never becomes good ever again. Arisa can fucking rot in purgatory.

5pp 1/1 follower
Bane
Rush
Last words: At the start of your next turn you win the game.

>>181512832
>moldy cavern

I don't consider that a vagina

I miss Eachtar.

Meanwhile Sword is cancer every meta

>>181513013
Yeah i totally forgot that desu

>>181512439
Turn 5 fervor. It could work back in Tog, but not this meta.

>>181513017
>moldy crevice
ftfy

>>181513109
>t. shadownigger

>>181513109
But it really isn't. You're just shit every meta.

Where the fuck is my WD interview? I demand explanation on not super strong Alice and Spawn.

>>181512845
i want to smell her pantyhose

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Rate my emblem.

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MOOOM!! I raped a degenerate netdecker with the tier 0 deck and turn 6 abyss with my homebrew meme deck!! Get the fucking camera!!

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>>181513386
Not my goddess/10

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Let's not pretend like Neutral Royal isn't completely degenerate despite Blood being even worse.

>>181513386
no fairy dragon or woes/10

>>181513386
>5/7
Its shit

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>stuck between 0 score and 1k
I knew forest was shit but never imagined that after 2 days of playing I wouldn't even get past 1k.
T-thanks for everything KMR.

>tfw can't have English Humpty and JP everything else
Life just isn't fair

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TOP KEK

>>181513521
Maybe you just made a shit Forest deck

>>181513585
>TOP KEK
Dumb summerfag.

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>>181513597
Yeah, it's probably just me.

>>181513585
Well, at least that means when Cygames nerfs Neutral Blood at end of month, we'll finally have a ton of deck variety

>>181510968
Alice is cute

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I tried to play Dragon in this meta. This is the deck code I got.

is there a way i can get oz's voice actress to verbally abuse me

Can't they at least put Spawn in Maintenance mode or something until the nerfs happen? The current situation is killing the game.

>>181513672
>"""""variety"""""
>when it's just everyone running the same fucking neutral engine

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FUN
Still won, fortunately neutralshitters get overconfident

>>181513585
>neutral
>neutral
>neutral
>neutral
>neutral
neutrals were a mistake

>>181513691
>playing alice in dragon
yeah you really are a bonified dragoncuck

>>181513585
I hope every blood deck goes back to tier 4 where it belongs.

>>181513585
>(Coma) Neutral Vampire
Well, this game is truly in coma now, if not already dead.

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>>181513672
>>181513672
>deck variety
half of that list is running the same neutral package

>>181513691
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/6kz904/i_tried_to_play_dragon_in_this_meta_this_was_the/

>>181513686
He pleased boglin dick

>>181513585
Blood was a mistake

>>181513794
They need a reason to put cards in maintenance and Spawn doesn't cause any glitch.

I think what bothers me the most about spawn is how fucking vanilla it is. Other than the art there is no reason for it to be a blood card. It could fit anywhere. It just happens to be a really good, really easy, really lazy wincon.

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Who /mindgame/ here?

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>>181511193
Sounds like you win the game but your enemy wins overall

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>aegisfags
Will they ever learn?

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Greatest meme even if its unreliable as fuck.
Sea queen is probably my 2nd favorite card after wizardess of oz this expansion because of the incredible meme potencials.

>>181513798
>>181514081
You know what, you guys will always find something to complain about because it's not this game that's really the problem, it's that your lives are empty and you aren't living for anything meaningful. So there.

>>181514240
>I beat the slowest deck in the game with the card that punishes slow deck the most
Checks out

Rapunzel is shit, i'm going back to Grimnir.

>>181511086
How come OTK Elf is doing so well against Spawn? I thought Forest was dead or something.

>>181514261
No their complaints are entirely valid, homogenized classes are one of the worst things they could have done. The longer the game goes on the more it becomes like Hearthstone (shit)

>>181514261
Please end your life. Thank you.

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>>181514261
You know this game is dying when this is the best retort shills can come up with.

>>181514261
Not them but
>turn 1 Goblin
>turn 2 neutral 2-drop
>turn 3 Goblin Leader
>turn 4 Alice
>spread over all 7 crafts
This used to be Shadow's niche to use Neutral and lo.

>>181514312
100% Roach tutor thanks to ETA
ETA can kill Spiderweb Imp if they are able to have Looking Glass in hand

>>181514476
list?

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>bloodnigger intelligence

>>181511086
Even worse than Mid Shadow numbers. KMR does it again!

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>>181514582

>>181514261
>A nigger trying to defend the Neutral engine

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>council of rats

At least Alice is a cute cancer. Better than that whore Daria and faggot like Kektar and Catacomb.

>>181514359
Yes they are valid. Didn't say they weren't, But my point is that Cygames could fix that 100% and these guys would -still- find something to complain about, because it's less about them being unhappy with the game, but more because they are unhappy with their lives (don't even try to lie about it).

>>181514672
>>181514579
>>181514240
>>181514246
okaaaaassaaaaaaaan

>>181514517
Not that guy, but something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfcIxkicUg

Except replace B&B with Ancient Elves.

Spawn of the Abyss
8PP 6-7
Ambush
Whenever this follower attacks, if ambush was active for it this turn, deal 4 damage to the enemy leader.
Evolved:
Whenever this follower attacks, if ambush was active for it this turn, deal 5 damage to the enemy leader.

Fixed.

July 29 (Announcement) July 30 (Change)
August 28 (Announcement) August 29 (Change)
September 26 (Announcement) September 27 (Change)

Just 26 more days. Let's stop playing until then and see if they fix the problem.

Spawn would be somewhat balanced if it deals the 6 and 8 damage to both leaders
Then it becomes a challenge of getting your opponent low enough to who the hell am I kidding it's broken as all hell

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>>181513585
based KMR did it again

>>181514672
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Which golds are a must for Spawn? I'm out of vials

>>181514905
Hector. Trust me, I'm Beginner 1.

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Feel bad for a poor guy, he tried to meme with grave and got rekt this hard

>>181514658
No one's defending it >>181514709

>>181514240
>bullying the people trying to chemo the blood niggers

>>181514905
Don't bother. His deck will be nerfed by the end of the month.
They never nerf legos, so they'll hit Tove and BKB, so they aren't as prominent as early game threats, making it more challenging to safely get out Spawn and swing with him.

He won't be top tier OP by the end of the month.

>>181514938
Awesome dude!!!!!!!!!!

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>tfw no Kripp version of SV for me to watch to learn Arena skill.

>>181514938
SUGOI
U
G
O
I

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H-H-HEAR

>>181514709
Yes gaijin, just stop noticing how the balance of the game literally gets worse every expansion, the problem is your mindset, not the developers.

>>181515134
>MOM

>>181515098
xnnoel but haven't watched his stream for a while so no idea if he still streams

>>181515006
Why cycuck want to nerf Black King Bar?

>>181515134
>posting satancat video screenshots

>>181515215
Because you refuse to learn english, ESL-kun.

>>181515235
tfw too poor to make memerwock deck as of now

>>181515215
I see a lot of people complaining about him. He's basically just Cuckgel but without an evo requirement and he can't banish, but people seem to agree he's just a liiiiiiiittle too strong.

I say Tove as well because that's a huge early game threat when coupled with Alice. He's just a better Devil of Vengeance.

They don't nerf legendaries so they'll nerf the rest of the deck.
As a Blood main, I hope it catches a nerf. I love that Blood is strong rn but it's too strong, even I can see that. I just hope it doesn't get nerfed to hell like Roach and Reaper.

>>181515282
>Blizzard want to nerf Black King Bar because I dont want to learn english
?????????
You're retarded

Alright guys, I just came back from trying my hand at both Elder Scrolls Legends and Eternal (in case this game goes to shit).
My conclusion is that Eternal is alot more F2P-friendly but with no popular IP backing it, its relatively small playerbase is mostly made up of people who really like the game itself. Elder Scrolls has a larger playerbase, but to me, the gameplay feels so sterile althought their singleplayer campaign is better, even compared to Shadowverse's. I wish Shadowverse's campaign was more like it. In the end, I think I'll just continue working on Eternal.

>>181515408
Seriously, learn english or fuck off.

>>181511086
Number of Grandmasters among top-100 ranked wins by class:
Forestcraft: 0
Swordcraft: 0
Runecraft: 0
Dragoncraft: 0
Shadowcraft: 0
Bloodcraft: 47
Havencraft: 5

>>181515215
Magic immunity is OP, BKB has gotten the most nerfs out of all the items in the game dotard.

>>181515450
Do you find eternal to be more fun than shadowverse?

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>>181515450
>Elder Scrolls has a larger playerbase
lol

>>181515343
Bkb is a mix between dragon warrior and cudgel, except without the evo requirement making him great even if you are going first, and ALSO deals damage on your face which is going to help you on the long run since yu want to be in vengeance by turn 7.
>People unironically believe Bkb's damage is a drawback when it doesn't even punch you when you are already in vengeance

>>181515572
Watching paint dry is more fun than Shadowverse

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MOOOOOOOOOOM!

>>181513585
>if Blood was nerfed this would probably be the most diverse format
>diversity doesn't matter when each craft plays the same exact way now
Based KMR.

>>181515618
S U G O I

>>181515596
Yeah, he's the perfect turn 4 counter follower. Cuckgel was hyper fucking annoying when it'd just banish and knock our your board, but at least he had an evo cost tied to him.

76098

Need a concede

>>181515596
Don't forget he gets full stats on evo too

>>181515572
You know how Shadowverse has that special impact effect when you attack the enemy leader with a follower that has 10 attack? Eternal also has that (TES:L doesn't) and is one of the factors that made me prefer it over TES:L. I'd say Eternal is like the western version of Shadowverse where Shadowverse has anime art and Eternal has comic book style art.
They're both just as fun. It all depends on what kind of gameplay you want to play today.

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Fuck it, if every expansion from now on is going to be as shit as these last 2 I might as well stop now.
Some retard at cy gives a random craft a broken as fuck aggro lego every fucking time and breaks the game until the nerfs like they want everyone to stop playing for the next month.
Have fun chasing grand master in this shitfest.

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Midrange elf before Blood dominance. I suppose I have use for my playset of dumb elves.

>>181515134
Why are people running Conflag again?

>>181515618
I appreciate these dragon posts now that they're not the dominant class

Boy I sure love this meta where my game is decided for the moment the game pics whether I go 1st or 2nd

>>181515594
>This guy thinks he knows how to read
LOL

>>181515834
Because Alice buffs every board out of 2 damage AOE range

>>181515818
Did ToG have broken aggro legos now? What the fuck.

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Nerf Oz.

>>181515536
There is something weird here but I can't quite put my finger on it.

>>181515889
>le balanced headless man of many zombies

>>181515950
>turn 7
>aggro
UHHHH

>>181515950
Eachtar was midrange :^)

>>181515946
Haven doesn't have a 0 next to it, that's the problem, I'm sure.

>>181515918
what's the pixiv tag please

>>181515768
Thank you, Havenbro

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>>181515832
Dumb elves. I got a playset and don't know what to do about them.

Ranked master games should be 2 out of 3 with no dupe crafts..

>>181516063
2 out of 3 with side decks

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>100% of ladder is anti-spawn aegis now

>>181516087
>pick blood
>hope you get to go first 2 times
Please let them attempt to balance the game before doing such thing.

>>181516142
Im sure they dont think enough about balance, cause many LEgos are overdue to get that

>>181516130
How does that work? Isn't Aegis much slower than Spawn?

>>181516130
Aegis is anti spawn? Since when.

>>181515818
2 bombs wasn't enough

>>181516181
control control control, Heal, heal, Aegis

Blood Spawn trick is to put enemy in range so spawn own ability can fuck you. if you control teh game and keep high heal, Spawn gets busted

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>>181516142
>Please let them attempt to balance the game

>>181515194
He was streaming earlier today

god is dead, and wonderland dreams killed him

2pp 3/3 was a mistake

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>>181515985
There are so many mouthbreathers here like you who think cost determines whether something helps you go face or not it's not even funny. Do you think turn 9 albert isn't aggro either?

>>181516325
*spawn of the abypss kills him

>>181516190
It's not that Aegis is anti-spawn, but this Aegis deck is specifically built to counter spawn. It gets fucked by regular aggro.

You'd think they would do some play-testing on the obviously most powerful legendary of the set, but guess not.

>>181516263
I never thought I'd see the day where i was rooting for Aegis. And I'm a Blood main.

>>181516351
Albert isn't aggro, because he comes out mid/late game. Aggro is when you beasterize your opponent before turn 6. By your logic, Silent Rider from the apoc deck is aggro.

>>181516351
Spawn is also aggro because it's (almost) unavoidable damage to the face, so is Aegis. Their cost doesn't matter.

>>181516414
*Cthulhu killed him

Need a concede, pretty please
ID: 84544

>>181515832
There's literally no way this deck works against the neutral-aggro package or other spammy shit. Every fucking expansion some retard posts some massive roach win-streak at the start of the expansion because they beat a bunch of people running shit decks. Then of course game-ai posts it and gets suckers to actually fall for it.

>>181516482
They probably thought the effect was balanced by the fact you had to play him raw on t8 or at least play a 2/1 for 5 on t5
Little did they notice they also printed a retarded early tempo game on top

>>181516351
The only time Eachtar is aggro is when you let them have a board. Guess what can kill you at 16 without even committing to a board?

>>181516351
Aggro is a deck archetype. A card simply having storm doesn't make it aggro.
You're literally retarded and have 0 idea what you're talking about. Your entire "knowledge" is based on shit that you've read on 4chan and then try to parrot without actually knowing what it means.
Sit the fuck down and try to actually understand shit before you make retarded posts.

>We want fast games
>Let's give everybody bulky sticky followers and board flood
Well gee going first wins games now. Who could've thought that would happen.

>>181516130
Just golem shift bro

>>181516181
Haven has 6 ways to remove stealthed Spawn (plus Iron Maiden if you hate that fag that much) and a bunch of heal
It can also fight decently early having the only relevant 2 drop in that game that can trade with Tove + access to Scripture and generic Aria + Dogma tempo plays

Japanese salary men are ruining this game. If the next expansion isn't control focused with added counterspells, then I'm fucking done with this game and going back to HS.

>have a lurching corpse, skull beast and spartoi soldier out
>enemy is dragon on 5pp
>he urds my corpse and concedes
>in master
I can't fathom the brick he just experienced.

>>181516608
>10 face damage in a storm deck isn't aggro because it's turn 9 so it's '''''midrange''''
Retarded fuck.

>>181516810
You pose a good argument, you win this one.

>>181516039
probably her name?

オズの大魔女

I guess her name is Oz is Ozu but not sure, just try

>>181516771
>cygames has stated multiple times that they WANT the games to be shorter
>for some reason you still believe there will EVER be a control expansion
Just quit now.

>>181516437
Haven is good against the neutral-aggro package. Snow White is as powerful as Tove. Haven doesn't give a shit about absurd buffs because balanced Themis. Stuff in Teena to take care of all the neutral shit better than Cudgel can.

It has iron maiden, tribunal, and themis to deal with Spawn then heal up with Curate.

>>181516338
so was 3PP 4/4

>>181516764
Well that's fairly typical of Haven anyways. I always felt like they had answers for everything.
Cheap and strong followers, random destroy, heal, ward, banish, easy storm followers, +1/+1 elana boost, instant win cards, invincible followers, and easier access to apoc deck.

>>181516890
How much fucking shorter can they get?

Soon games will end on turn 1.

>>181514976
That would be Oz Rune. Haven is also a cancer.

>>181516924
Elana is still irrelevant, its numbers have barely improved.

>>181516810
Not him, but
It's not the cost that matters, it's how early you can get it out. Albert is enhance 9.
Eachtar is 7 cost minimum, and you need shadows for him to work. Neither you'll get early game.
These are late game, not aggro, because aggro is LITERALLY EARLY GAME WIN CONS ONLY.

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>>181516962
SHORTER
NO TIME
GOTTA GO FAST
TOO LONG

>>181516875
Seems better than "storm isn't aggro if it's not played before turn 6 xD".

>>181516771
There is zero indication that Cygames wants to change direction from braindead gameplay with predetermined tempo swings and autowin legendaries when that's what's made them so popular. Holding out for counterspells of all things just means you're too weak willed to quit now.

>>181517004
Oz Rune isn't anywhere near as good as Haven at dealing with Blood. Zero decent healing to come back from any smart blood player just evolving Spawn to get in the 8 face damage.

Only people letting spawn get turned into a Rat against Rune are shitters at this point.

>>181516890
>cygames has stated multiple times that they WANT the games to be shorter
What's the reasoning behind this?
I mean it is obviously retarded but what is the thought process?

>>181516971
>1pp Countdown Amulet
>Countdown (1)
>You win at the end of your turn

>>181516890
Fall of the Dark Brotherhood was a pretty control-focused expansion desu

>>181517149
>turn 2
TOO LONG
its gotta be quicker!

>>181516810
>Aggro (short for "aggressive") decks attempt to reduce their opponents from 20 life to 0 life as quickly as possible
>QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE

>rather than emphasize a long-term game plan.
>RATHER THAN [...] LONG-TERM

>Aggro decks can quickly overwhelm unprepared opponents
>QUICKLY OVERWHELM
Aggro doesn't stand for "I GOT FACE LUL" you cretin, Aggro stands for winning QUICKLY.
Turn 9 is not quick.

So, is there any reason to climb through Masters to Grand Masters? I have yet to fully recover from the burn out from my climb from Beginner to Masters over the months and i get a feeling this meta is going somewhere bad

>>181517148
>Mobile game
>Play while on trains

Gee, I wonder.

how do you pronounce forte anyway? like fort, or like dork?

>>181516971
>implying the game isn't over the second the turn order card pops up

>>181517236
Fort-eh
Only retarded Americans don't pronounce the E.

>>181517236
Fortay
lmao

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>>181517236
dork of course

>>181517236
it's pronounced "whore"

>>181517236
I personally think Fortay.
Couldn't really guess how it's actually said. Make a strawpoll?

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>cygames ruins master class with their stupid master rank bullshit
>even better, it resets every season, so the climb never ends

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>Just discovered that you can have different leaders for different decks of the same class.

For how long has this been a thing?

>>181517358
>the game has a goal to climb towards every season opposed to hitting master and that being the end of the road
what a crime.

ToG and WD have made me realize how great expansion DE was.

>>181516971
>>181517198
Follower cards will now gain +1/+1 for each seers globe used on them. Multiple globes can be used on the same card.
This effect is permanent across all games.

>>181517358
Every expansion, dude. That's 3 months.

>>181517232
Then why give the player 20 lifepoints and up to 10pps?

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>>181516885
thanks

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>>181517323
>woodlands band
>What an interesting amulet surely they will print some sort of support for this right?
>I mean there's no way they give a class worthless filler cards 3 expansions in a row

>>181517427
Elana and Neutralbuffs were basically the same shit.
Getting overwhelmed by buffed opponents that you can't trade into.

>>181517473
>implying 20lifepoints is high
Anyway, to entice controlfags like you

>>181517485
why does he always have such a shit eating grin

>>181517207
You only play his enhance if you didn't kill him already because the other guy wards or trades you complete moron. You still play him to kill your opponent asap, just as a backup plan. You're so fucking caught up in your retarded definition of what is or isn't aggro you ignore why cards are played.

>>181517473
that's all just windowdressing to make the player feel like they have control
the actual game is just a coinflipping simulator

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Reminder you will never be this retarded.

>>181517530
because you're the one eating his shit and he finds it funny

>>181517532
ASAP
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
TURN 9 IS NOT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
STOP TALKING.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S EMBARRASSING.
ALSO NOT HIM.

you ever flip a coin and 100% of the time a goblin rapes an elf?

>>181517486
Yeah, maybe if Elana had a 58% winrate

>>181517575
>03/26
simpler times

>>181517236
Like you would in Italian.

>>181517532
>You're so fucking caught up in your retarded definition
This isn't "my retarded definition", this is the agreed on definition by anyone that isn't a fucking newfag to card games. This has been the definition since Magic.
It's only newfags like you that have never played a TCG/CCG before SV who try to reinvent the wheel and argue about shit that doesn't need to be argued about. You're simply wrong. That is an objective fact. No matter how much more you kick and scream, you won't stop being any less wrong.

>>181517532
Don't bother these people genuinely believe that if an old school aggrobats deck included soul dominator it would magically become a midrange deck because aggro decks are supposed to be hardcapped at 6pp

>>181516924
>instant win cards
Seraph isn't an instant win it's a 2 turn combo. Aegis is annoying but it isn't instant. Grail is meme. Apocalypse is even more meme. Thus haven has trouble with dshift decks since their win conditions are late and slow.
Elana can get bonkers but it bricks because they rely on an amulet to win. Followers are cheap with storm but they are usually amulets which are slow and can be bricky. Snow white is an exception but banish and her lategame weakness is a thing because haven can't really push for game until turn 6+.
I guess for the past two expacs haven has been comfortably sitting in tier 2/1.5/anti meta as they can deal with a lot of stuff consistently.
>hagfag
Garuda is a far superior meme.

>Jabberwock pulls two Zeus and Genesis Dragon from two Ivory Dragons and Gobu
>Jabberwock pulls Zeus from a single Ivory Dragon
Fell for the Discard Dragon meme in RoB. Now to craft Casino Dragon in WD.

>>181517236
Fort pronounciation is strong.
Fortay pronounciation is musical.
I like Dorkaylmao

>>181517582
>hmm this guy has been storming my face from turn 1, but i managed to stave him off until turn 9 and ... oh wait he played something that dealt 10 face damage and killed me but it cost 9 so I guess I didn't go up against an aggro deck after all
This playerbase deserves all the rape spawn is giving it.

>>181517519
>Anyway, to entice controlfags like you
YOU DON'T KNOW ME

>>181517953
find any good lists for Jabberwock?

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what will the kronos card be like?

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It's because of retarded MtG grandpas that CCGs will never be nothing but a meme. Look at how many digital card games we have nowadays and all the developers still treat them like they are just physical games on a computer because they have to cater to nostalgiafags who refuse to "reinvent the wheel". Every expansion has to bruteforce a new meta, almost no balancing is done and formats are inevitably introduced at some point because of said lack of balancing. There's no actual advantage to the digital format.

Why bother balancing, balancing and testing is too hard, this is the way things have always been done.

>>181518079
One card doesn't make an aggro deck.
If you manage to stave him off until turn 9, that's a failed aggro deck. Probably because he had a turn 9 card.
You're mixing up Aggro with OTK.

Aggro aims to beat the opponent as early as possible with low cost, fast, high powered attackers and easy removal.

OTK aims to beat the opponent in one fell swoop through careful buildup into one giant all out attack.

Learn definitions before applying your own nonsense to the game first.

>>181518175
This. They need to break away from the retarded idea that "oh no we can't change old cards!" because of some retarded adherence to stupid paperback formats. It's a video game fomat now, and that means it should be subject to constant buffs and nerfs like every other fucking game in existence.

Problem is they are mostly keeping the paperback "style" because it turns into an extortion racket where they make money from you every three months by releasing new shit. Ensuring that you buy it because of powercreep.

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>>181516893
>Snow White is as powerful as Tove

Remember when Control Blood is used to be thinking man the deck?
Remember when you have to calculate ememy's potential lethal?
It's shame now it's all bout drop spawn on curve.

>>181511086
>>181515536

>but but turn 5 and 6 do nothing! you can't beat that? it's meme snake all over again!

i hate those kind of fucking bandwagoner retards

>>181518079
>some guy says albert turn 9 is aggro
>everyone is jumping on him saying turn 9 albert does not signify aggro and the definition is being used wrong
I could be running midrange or cannon memes and still play albert on turn 9. One card does not signify a deck is aggro and one card cannot be called aggro. Jungle warden is does the same thing as albert but I wouldn't say he is aggro or forest decks running him as aggro decks even with shit like roach.

>>181518431
You seem to be under the belief that game companies should care about anything but their bottom line, the folks here can cry all they want but cygames is still raking in the dosh from SV and will continue to do so for years no matter how shitty the meta gets.

>>181518578
spawn is not a control blood deck

>>181518578
any long term deck is now a meme due to Cy pushing Short game and Aggro meta

enjoy

>>181518392
It's only turn 9 because of the enhance, you can just play it earlier if you want ffs, how dense are you?
If you really think every deck has to fall neatly into your categories then you're just another autist wasting everyone's time with outdated definitions.

>>181518492
More powerful actually, she's a 3/5

>>181518492
it's a 3/5 for 2

>>181518578
No one is playing control blood it's all midrange blood shit with alice-package + spawn

Basically an orgy of all all the retarded cards printed this expansion thrown into a single deck.

>>181518656
There's more than one Spawn deck, retard.

>>181518492
Turn 2 1/2 into 2/3 rush. It's value and you can get even more value if you run the turn 3 +1 ward thing. You can easily trade 2 for one like that on turn 3 going first. Or you could play grimnir run the 1/2 into something to get the 2/3 to remove a 2/2 and remove something else on turn 4. It has a lot of value early game and has allowed haven to stabilize against the faster decks.

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>>181518751
I forgot but it also counts as an evolve so with doggu you can get a 2/4 ward on turn 4 or 3.

>>181518578
Get with the time grandpa! Nobody ain't having time with your outdated DE grinder CBlood lmao

>>181518678
>calls me an autist
>no real retort
>"outdated definitions"
I'll count this as a victory. Stop replying to me now.

You yourself (or it was posted earlier) said, and I quote:
"I could be running midrange or cannon memes and still play albert on turn 9"

Albert played on turn 9 doesn't automatically make him and the deck aggro.
If you play aggro on turn 5, it doesn't make him nor the deck automatically aggro.

The deck is aggro, or it isn't. Stop. Talking.

>Forest is dead lol!
http://game-ai.jp/40132/

>>181518906
>another roach deck
yep, Seems dead to me

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>>181518715
I'm playing control blood..

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>>181518906
>another "i-it has a 80% winrate please believe me" jap Forest deck

>>181518431
>They need to break away from the retarded idea that "oh no we can't change old cards!" because of some retarded adherence to stupid paperback formats
Seriously, can you come up with a single reason why a card like Jeanne shouldn't be buffed? Equivalent fanfare to Dark Jeanne (arguably worse outside of some meme Laelia deck), same body but Jeanne is unexplicably 2pp more expensive. Even if it costed the same as Dark Jeanne it probably still wouldn't see much play.
Beta Skullfane nowadays would just be a shittier Lion. It's ridiculous.

>>181518715
I play control- Aggro Blood

>>181518492
You're right I should've said more powerful, my mistake

>>181518904
That wasn't even me, you have no idea what points you're even replying to. Also, the whole "stop replying" thing gives away how austitic you are.

>>181518698
>>181518704
>>181518751
>>181519060
>crash Snow White into a 2/2
>wind up with a 2/1 at the end
>crash Tove into a 2/2
>wind up with a 3/1 at the end
Outside of T2 while going first Tove feels a lot better. Especially mid-lategame when it pretty much becomes a 3/3 rush for 2PP.

What should use my seer's globe on? My head says Alice, since she's in a lot of decks, but my gut says Satan for that animated apoc deck.

Completely stuck now. I keep getting incredibly awkward shit hands against awful match-ups.

https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/881799703351799808

Are the solo rewards actually this good?

>>181519315
Are you retarded?

>>181518715
Cblood is the 5th most played deck on ladder, idiot.

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>those legs
How can Nep even compete?

>>181519315
No, those are the very first missions you get when you create a new account. It's a one-time thing.

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I feel bad

>open 2 packs today
>get 2nd woes and fairy dragon
I'm so happy, not even memeing

Fuyu ga kita no ne

>>181519193
>more stats
>can attack twice in a turn if it dies
>no restrictions whatsoever
You're wrong

>>181519193
>Tove dies to any 2pp deal 3 removal
>Snow white survives board clears and your own themis
>Can double trade
>Synergy with Haven's other good 2-drop, the doggo
>can be played in any Haven deck, and not just neutral shit
>isn't going to be scape-goat nerfed like Tove

>>181519471
I would color her white.

>>181519173
Same argument, and this is an anonymous board.
Or did you expect me to be able to identify you out of a selection of similar sounding retards?

Please, continue changing the topic. Backpedal harder. And read up on definitions.

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>Animated legendary
>Animation isn't even that good

so far Corpselord of Woe's animation is probably the best for leggos.

>>181519596
post webm

>>181519193
>go first
>play snow
>play angel that buffs snow
>crash into 2/2 from turn 2
>crash into 1/2 from turn 1
>2/2 and 2/2 with ward against empty board
>crashing against tove is equal trade
Also I mentioned dog synergy for 2/4 ward which is super nice on turn 3 going first. This really is a go first curve and win expac.

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>elf twin assault
>"oh shit I'm fucked"
>1 damage
>doesn't kill anything
>concedes

>>181519698
I don't know how to record from my tablet much less make a webm, sorry.

>>181519582
>my decades old definitions from another game has to apply to every card game because me and my fellow autists say so, no exceptions
But yeah, keep 'counting this is your victory', maybe your handler will be impressed when you call her.

>>181519881
>I've decided that aggro means something totally different now because it suits me and totally needs updating!
>Yeah, aggro just doesn't really fit the bill anymore, even though literally all the principles are the same and nothing has changed

At this point, I don't even know where the original poster is, whether he's reading these and has figured out his mistake, or if you're indeed him. Regardless, just know that you can't make up your own definitions and expect them to apply and/or replace the old definitions.

You got it wrong, and got called out. Deal with it.

Catch you on the flipside

>>181520020
Do you practice putting as much cringe as possible into your posts or does it come naturally with your 'tsm?

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>>181520020
Neutral Sword is running Impartial Stryx now?

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I didn't draw a single Baphomet or Spawn the whole match. Fuck this shitty game.

>>181520151
Didn't mean to quote