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Skill edition

>New assault (2CP) map: Horizon Lunar Colony is live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIsDXT8Xl8I

>Most recent developer update [PTR 1.13 Changes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkYJlPMdWNA

>Latest PC patch notes
PTR: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20861969
Live: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/game/patch-notes/pc

>Overwatch dev tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Hero tips, tricks, and basics
http://pastebin.com/Qf2AKa8R

>Source/Quake mouse sensitivity converter
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Personal stats / leaderboards
https://overbuff.com/
https://masteroverwatch.com

>eSports info and Contenders League
https://over.gg/
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
https://www.overwatchcontenders.com/

>Previous thread:
>>181451395
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Remove Mercy
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HERE COMES T.RACIST
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Lucio!
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Daily reminder that Mercy players are faggots
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Cutest and best pairing
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>>181490520
>This thread is officially pro-Mercy you can only post positive things about mercy in this thread
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>>181490520
Find new OP images, please. This one has been OP at least three times now.

There's plenty of new OW related fan images release EVERY DAY. We could have EVERY THREAD start with something fresh.
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>'If no one is going to protect me I'm off heals'
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Hoping for new shit in the summer games that isn't a voice line that's been sitting in the files for a while.
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Here is the finished illustration. Artist is one of the spray artists.

Future Tracer spray pretty much confirmed.
Will you use it?
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>>181490950

why do they both look chinese
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>>181490520
Jamison Fawkes!
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>>181490950
>ywn grasp tracer's butt like that
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which character do you
>remove
>buff to former glory
>add a completely new change to (explain the change)

1. Orisa
2. Roadhog
3. Junkrat, make his mine's cool down reset after a kill

>>181490802
repost because i was fapping and didn't realize the thread had ended
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>>181490950
No, Tracer's hand looks weird
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>>181491305

>mercy
>roadhog
>make mccree's roll reset after kill
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I've been away from this game and I see no one's allowed to do any damage still.
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>confirmation on the horizon
feels good
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When will blizzard finally get their shit together and add a melee support with fun fist fighting style?
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>lost 300 SR during weekend

What the fuck do i do lads

Even the game thinks im playing good since defeats only make me lose 20 sr and the few wins give me 30
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post cute
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can i get some smug dvas up in this thread?
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Why is Orisa so shit
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>>181491721
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>>181491305
Remove Mercy

Return McCree to his beta GOD STATUS

Tighten up Torbjorns hitboxes so his entire upper torso doesn't count as a headshot
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>>181491718
stop playing solo and only play when your daddy is there to carry you mr mercy main
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>>181491572
Damage is anti-fun, so every hero has a billion ways to mitigate getting shot and they deal damage like wet cardboard
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>>181491305
>Remove
Piece of shit weaboo naruto mistake of a character.
>Buff to former glory
I'd return the 25% ultcharge rate. Ultimates are a fun thing, they make ovw clearly different from some boring FPS.
>Add a completely new change to
You mean, overhaul? Bastion of all the things imho needs one. He's probably the worst character to play and to explore lorewise, he doesn't hold any substance and is simply boring to play for a lot of people. I mean, whose brilliant idea it was to give people a choice to play either a full plate holy crusader with an energy shield, OR pilot a god damned stationary turret?
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>1587 SR
>win
>1591 SR
What the ever living fuck
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Mercy has no counter
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>>181491721
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>>181492098
You played worse than an average player of your rank on the same heroes. That's it.
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>>181491796
Shit design, shit personality and a kit that consist mostly of things already in the game being thrown together.
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>>181491796
Her barrier is stationary, her damage is mostly trash(Does a lot of it, but rarely secures a kill), she lacks the swift response of rein or fast engage/disengage abilities of a winston/d.va
Basically, she's just a worse version of a rein.

I think blizz should do what they did for another quadropod in HotS - give her a passive boost to speed, so that she has at least better mobility than the good ol' rectangular man.
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>>181490775
Mercy has a nice yell when she dies.
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>>181492183
I got 5k healing on Zen the first round, then another 5k as Mercy because ours wanted to play Hanzo
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>>181491796

I've said this many times but:

1) A gun that is literally good at nothing. Shit speed, shit damage, shit bloom, and makes her slower while using it.
2) Kit that is essentially just a poor man's version of everybody else's kit.
3) Shield is immobile and directional, making it the least flexible barrier in the game.
4) Fortify is really crappy, doesn't last long enough for a massive cooldown and does little to help her because she's still extremely large and able to be critted easily
5) Horrible mobility that prevents her from getting back to her team after dying, escaping, not getting flanked, everything
6) Character-wise they could have made her endearing by having her be young and enthusiastic and curious, with lots of little interactions with everybody. Instead she is just MUH BARRIERZ and sounds like some random African woman, nothing unique or endearing or memorable about her other than MUH BARRIERZ
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>>181492645
That doesn't say much to me, honestly. But it seems that those amounts are less than what matchmaker expected you to output.
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>>181491954
Will I get cummies if I do good?
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>>181491305
>Mei
>Genji
>Orisa is now hitscan
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Anyone else that doesn't use mic in comp?
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>>181492416
She needs to have the healing ability she was clearly meant to have, but then was removed because Blizzard sucks

>hey lets make a support tank
>her only support abilities are a tiny weak shield and an attack boost ult that requires LOS and can be killed in a matter of seconds
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>>181491796
Orisa was made because Jeff was tired of hearing complaints that there was no female omnic so he made the ugliest useless female omnic hero as a response.
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>>181493295
it's not necessary at all sub-platinum, where wins are based mostly on individual competence and luck
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>>181493295
I rarely use mine.
I don't know why.
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>Hit Diamond mainly using Bastion
Why does everyone underestimate the best OW character?
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lmao
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REMINDER THAT GENJI LOVES TO LICK MCCREES DIRTY BUNGHOLE CLEAN
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>>181493449
People too busy shoehorning dive comp.
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Some mercy main added me out of the blue after a comp game. So I added her back and we queued a bit. She's kind of shit but I guess I'll play with her cause she seems to actually be trying to win and can actually play other heroes.
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>>181493295
I'll talk as long as I confirm that there aren't any twelvies on mic that I need to mute
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>>181493295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4hwxTCxXq4
I'm Diamond and I don't even use team chat or voice chat, mainly thats why. Not sure if I'm just a magnet for those kinds of people, but that's pretty much every game for me. I feel like it lets you focus more on the game and gives you more awareness, desu.
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>>181493295
Me, wanted to see if I could hit masters without a mic and with all chat muted
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>>181493550
>tfw cute female mercy mains never add you
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>post yfw your aim with widow/mccree/soldier is so fkn sicc that the people in the game think you are a smurf
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why is it so hard to hit mercy with gengu shurikanas?
its impossibru
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>>181493302
Well, she's not a support tank, that's one of her problems also. She's a MT like rein/winston, except she performs worse than rein in all but two maps - Well on ilios and Shrine(?) on Nepal.
Also, healing won't save neither her ass, nor the asses of her teammates, because even if she would get a healing similar to hog's rebreather - she's still predictable as fuck, there's no character in the game to get easier headshots on. Her gun would still hurt like a nerf rifle, her barriers still would be immobile, and while easily spammable - not enough to shield the team from changing directions like rein is able to. She simply doesn't have clear implications and synergies, and as such people still don't get why the heck is this shit even in the game.

But her ult is really fucking good, tho. People who shittalk the bongo don't know what they are talking about, 50% damage boost is no fucking joke.
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Fuck it, post your hero ideas
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>>181493714
For M1, I try to aim more with WASD then the mouse, you also have to compensate a bit for a moving target.
M2 is just spam upclose and combo with melee and swift strike.
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>>181493697
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>>181493740
Orisa was supposed to be a support tank, but she isn't now, she's just an awful main tank with a support ult
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>>181493714
You're aiming where she is, not where she's going. She bunny hops every time she's trying to avoid, so shoot in a triangular pattern then get close to her. Then you burst her.

If she tries flying to Pharah, jump on their heads and double jump on them. They'll fall out of the sky quickly.
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>>181493506
Proofs?
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I just noticed Sombra's retarded toe shoes.
What the fuck.
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>>181493802
>Name: Lucifer
>Metalhead support
>150HP/150AP
>Primary fire: Guitar that drains enemy health and heals Lucifer, 50DPS on single target, 25HPS healed. 10 meter range. Ammo capacity 50, uses 10 per second. Cannot penetrate barriers.
>Passive: All surplus health drained is stored, up to 300
>E ability: "High Note". Expends all stored health to heal allies for 75% of stored value, remaining 25% heals Lucifer himself
>Shift ability: "Low Note". Slows Lucifer and all enemies within 15 meters. Drains 25HPS from all enemies within range for 3 seconds.
>Ultimate: "Mosh Pit". Lucifer plays his guitar for 12 seconds, entrancing all enemies within 10 meters. Enemies are rendered completely immobile and unable to act while entranced. All damage done to Lucifer during mosh pit is inflicted on entranced victims. All damage done to victims heals Lucifer (as long as it wasn't damage from Lucifer taking damage). Can be interrupted.
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>>181493929
Didn't you listen to JK? He clearly said they wanted to add a rein wannabe, not another support tank like d.va or zarya
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>>181493693
I don't think I did anything particularly interesting during the game either. Barely talked, and even when I did I don't think I have some attractive alpha male voice. Stroke of luck I guess, I'm not even a pharah main but I guess I play her well enough with a thicc caduceus rod in my ass
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>tfw just realized teleporteur-anon no longer posts his memes
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>>181490732
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>>181494112
Zero mobility, but a shit ton of selfheal, annoying vampiric and a twelve fucking second stun in a large radius.
What the actual fuck.
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I am going to put my penis in this robot.
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The best pairing is Roadhog/Mercy.
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>>181494441
>tfw no Orisa wife
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>>181493697
>just wildly shooting shots
>accidentally headshot an invisible Sombra
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>>181494463
Do you think hog likes traps?
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>>181493073
if you do good you'll get all the cummies you can handle, but if you do bad daddy will have to discipline you until you apologize to the whole chat with that cute little teary eyed voice for being so incompetent
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>>181494559

He hangs out with Junkrat, so yes.
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>>181494617
Junk is just a homo, I don't think he ever pretended to be a girl
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Why do people automatically give up when someone leaves a match in comp? Why do people think it's impossible to win?
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Finally finished bronze2gm again.

This season has been so cancer. Back to qp now
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>>181494864

What horrors have you seen?
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>summer games event isn't just team talon accidentally getting involved in a high-stakes armed robbery while on vacation

baka just hire me blizzard
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>>181494953

Well my last game that got me gm had a full team of snipers. Somehow won idek, I think we tilted the shit out of the enemy.

Gold is a pure shit show though. I feel sorry for anyone stuck there. My season high of 97 eliminations came from a gold game where it was literally 1v6
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>>181495147

Yeah, I'm stuck in gold right now.
I've seen things you wouldn't believe.
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>>181494503
Why is she so perfect.
I want to cum on her face and inside of her.
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Why do complete shitters pick nothing but DPS and then do fuck all match 90% of the time? Fucking why, every single god damn time. Holy fuck.
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how do i make friends to play this game with
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Uninstalled this game last month. Is it still shit?
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>>181495015
>summer games isn't Talon accidentally killing Russian president but needing her to sign a weapons deal so they need to prop up her body like a puppet and pretend she's alive long enough to sign the contract
>and they do this in full costume
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>>181495642

S5 of comp is shit.
Quickplay is just 6dps "its just quickplay bro xD"
Arcade is cancer.

So yeah.
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>>181495483

I don't know. It's really infuriating because I'll try to fill and get gold elims as tank or silver elims as healer. I don't even play healer much. I keep thinking "wtf are they doing?"
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>lucio jumps in front of two nanos
<we still win

Forced 50 smiles upon me
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>>181495523
i have no idea, want to be friends? are you a nice player? i haven't played since season 2, so i'm just now playing the game again
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>>181495847
Literally Team Rocket.
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Mercy wasn't really an issue before even when she had been buffed but why does it seem like she's overpowered now when she's still exactly the same?
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>>181495993
Not him but why is s5 shit?
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>there are people on this thread at this moment that would consider Mei their waifu

fucking disgusting.
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>All of Tracer's lines make her seem like an irritating cunt
>Everyone who plays Tracer acts like an irritating cunt
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>>181496202
Mercy onetrick's grating personalities combined with people realizing how fucking easy she is despite how game changing she can be
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>>181496295

Summer.
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Mei is __
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>>181496202

Mercy's risk/reward ratio is all fucked up, she attracts, enables, and encourages the worst type of people in the game.
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>>181496325
That's not even the worst of it. How can people be so devoid of taste that they unironically waifu sombra?
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>>181494695
>The joke
>Your head
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>>181495523
I have a tons of friends on OW, just get a headset and add people who seem competent in game

>>181496202
>tfw have like 20 friends who are mercy one tricks or mercy/dva players
i carried 5 girls and 1 certified cuteboi to masters, the cuteboi and two of the girls are sluts who seem to get off on lewd talking to me on discord while we play.

y-you too i guess
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>>181496504

retarded.
Literally retarded.
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>>181496202
People started to catch on to the way Mercy mains were abusing the SR system after people begged Blizzard to give more SR points to support mains. Also, the invincibility during ult change made it so Mercy OTPs could stay alive much longer than they deserved to and get carried to GM. The same shit happened with D.Va when she got her 400 armor buff. She was so insanely to survive with that people who mained her got a huge crutch all the way to the top. After she was reverted back to normal, those same people couldn't do shit anymore and thus dropped back to their proper ranks. The same shit needs to happen with Mercy.
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>>181496325
Orisa is my waifu.
I want to cum inside her robotic womb
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welp I got gold lootbox and still havent opened it because I thought it would apply to seasonal events and it apparently doesnt
so what was the point?
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>>181496415
Are you saying that since all the kids are out s5 is garbage?
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>>181493295
I started using it last season and shit boosted me up to 3100.

This season I'm skipping it because I somehow play a lot worse if I use it. I don't know why, I just can't hear comments, process them (bear in mind English is not my mother tongue and I play in EU), be aware of the surroundings, make the proper call outs and still play well at the same time. And if there are more than two other people talking, I just lock myself out and barely say "well done" and "thanks". In fact, last week a guy and a girl complimented my Lucio play as I was bullying the living shit out of a Bastion and S76 and my arms started shaking for no reason. I guess it has to do with barely leaving my room in the last 6 months.

I know I will go back using it. Right now I'm at 2700 and I'm starting to see situations where I cannot spare not using it.
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>>181495993

I pretty much only play tanks and consistently get 4 golds. People are trash at this game, they treat it like CoD.
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Why did they make hog unplayable? They ruined his teamfight damage. You can't flick 1shot kill people that are dumb enough to run up to you anymore.
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>>181490520
>get T.Racer in loot box
>reminded how I'll have to wait another year to get Grafitti for no reason
Why do I still play this game? I've got 4000 coins saved up but I'm almost positive the new Summer Games skins will have nothing interesting.
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>>181496875
Yes.
Both the 12 year olds and the equally childish frat boys.
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>>181496875

Yes anon, all the buttmad calladoody kids and literal 10 year olds are now out of school. The game was also discounted so there are tons of smurfs and noobs. It's bad.
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>>181496960
DUDE JUST GET YOUR TEAM TO KILL FOR YOU LMAO
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>>181496109
Boostio, my friend.
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>>181496771
a free legendary and a promotion for twitch prime? it's quite obvious
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>>181496960
I blame battle dotnet and Reddit babbs. Roadhog is bacon now.
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>>181496693
Your waifu is a cute
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>>181495483
Because this is a game about dps. Dps are KEWL in cinematics, Dps get the gold in everything, Dps are the easiest to play and carry on, Dps are the stars of this game.
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>>181496371
NEED A DISPENSA HERE
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>>181495483
because they find tank and support boring
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>>181497024
Graffiti is a reddit skin anyways
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>>181497797
Then what's the 4chan choice?
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reminder that the japanese folk story of "the tale of genji" is as hentai as it can come.

genji is born and his mother dies, father re-marries and genji proceeds to have an affair with his stepmother
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>>181493802
Genji's and Hanzos little sister, who is the current head of the Shimada Clan, that is trying to bring them to the Shimada Clan. Since her "dragon" is not as developed as her brothers her E is going put her dragon on team mates that shoots a 10 dmg per shot hitscan element to their weapon if she keeps LoS and does extra damage to shields. She can't cimb walls as well as her brothers either so her shift will be like the wall climb the other shimadas have. Her primary fire will be throwing kunai but will have a debilitating effect like minus damage or something similar. her rmb she throws a special shuriken that hits for 50 but does 100 damage to shields. Her ult is kind of like an air strike but comes from the ground in the form of her dragon so it can be use in doors.

She will be 22 but will look like a loli and she will wear shimapan
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>>181495483
i would play a team death match game mode if it existed, all offense and defense characters (except torb and bastion)

maybe add lucio and zen for variety
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>match starts
>see this

How do you react? Unsurprisingly they were garbage, blamed the team for their retarded positioning, didn't know how to use rez and only communicated in passive-aggressive remarks.
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>>181497240
But it would have been great if it cold be held for special events considering the last one had shitload of legendaries most people couldnt get all of
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>>181497024
>SKINS SKINS SKINS
Retards like you are the reason this game lacks substantial content. Blizzard are also responsible, but you support them in their stupid ideas.
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>>181497850
Jetstream and Posh
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>>181490520
gas mercy mains
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This is a sleeping Mei.
Say something nice about her!
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>>181497996
Obviously pick mei and go on a solo-rampage. You can't win with a 24% winrate mercymain, so you'll have to at least have some fun in the meantime
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>>181497878
so... mercy married into the shimada clan?
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>>181497850
Cadet or Slipstream
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>>181497906
>Shimada sister
Instantly disregarded.
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>>181497353
She is extremely cute.
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>>181498275
Ever alert mei has trained herself to sleep with her eyes open
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>>181496960
>tfw someone on your team picks hog
People haven't realized that it's literally a troll pick, they just don't believe me.
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If a Winston is diving on a Rein, why can't the Rein win? All he has to do is swing and maybe even pin him.
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>>181497996
Mercy 1tricks like those have no decision making so you literally have to tell instruct them to play. Just say shit like "fly to me" or "I have ult and their dva is dead/out of mech we can win this fight rez me".
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Just had a game on Route 66, both teams kept shittalking each other and their teammates, the match was a complete clusterfuck, but ultimately they won, because they had a really good hitscan dude that just sat on a cart as bastion and annihilated our tanks, because we had zero coordination and put out orisa+winston against a shielded bastion.

This was THE diamond match. If one was to summarize an entire rank in one match - it would be this one. Holy fucking shit, I'm so glad I'm moving towards plat right now.
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>>181497850
Punk and Sporty
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>>181498375
Post a picture where she goes ^w^
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>>181498464
fuck are u talking about rein always wins that engagement. his armor makes her pellets do fucking nothing and u can kill her as she flies out of mech
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>>181497996
constantly type "heal me u piece of shit trash mercy" all match
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>>181498560
I already did, anon. >>181495404
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>>181496960
>>181498436
You're all shit desu Roadhog is still good.
How bad are you if you can't hit a target twice in a row.

>>181498549
Why are Euro servers so bad? I had a Euro on my team today who said, "USA is more fan than Euro". All we did was joke around while winning. I felt so bad for him, what's happening with Euros.

>>181498578
???
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>>181498549
>That kid implying that an 18 year old isn't a child
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>>181498662
jesus chrsit i thought u said dva for some reason

reins wins vs winston too
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>>181498464
Because Rein has to put down his barrier and expose himself to discord/other shit while Winston can zap away in his safe space

Pin doesn't always work since he's almost always going to be moving and jumping around like a retard and he'll probably jump away before you can smack him down
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>>181491637
>ywn be carried like that by a super soldier
End it all.
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>>181498552
>Punk

How about no?
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>>181498728
>Because Rein has to put down his barrier and expose himself to discord/other shit while Winston can zap away in his safe space
But what if there's a D.Va protecting the Rein? Or an Ana using a grenade to splash Rein and Winston?
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>>181498464
He should win, but hammer, firestrike, and now pin hit detection is broken so his DPS is halved

Blizzard wants this because they wanted to have a new meta and can't balance a game
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>yfw you can't prove this wrong
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>>181498662
Roadhog isn't good. Your perfect shots aren't rewarded with kills, instead, you need two of them in quick succession, which rarely ever happens.
If you hook someone being healed, you don't kill them, even if you landed the combo perfectly. It's fucking pathetic.
Whenever I see a hog I just run his ass down if I have a mercy/zen pocketing me because he literally can't kill me.

He wasn't even top tier before. Dva and Winston are top-tier and he at least countered them. I want to know what goes on in their platinum balancing discussion room.
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Have you ever made a mistake using an ult but it turns out for the better? I remember once using Bastion's ult once and rocket jumped over their Orisa's barrier while Junk's ult cleared out the three behind her shield.
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>>181499003
Hog didnt counter dive tired of this fucking meme
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>>181499003
>Roadhog isn't good. Your perfect shots aren't rewarded with kills, instead, you need two of them in quick succession, which rarely ever happens.
>which rarely ever happens.
Your aim is just bad, man.
That's not the fault of the nerf. You're just bad at shooting games. What a pathetic excuse.
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>>181498704
Ye, he was playing terribly, but since their 'cree was really good - had a privilege to say "ez" after every round. It was quite funny.
>>181498662
USA is actually more fun than euro, for whatever reason. I honestly have no idea why, but a lot of people on USA seem to be more relaxed and chill.
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>>181493957
>mcnuggies
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>>181498967
>prove a picture wrong
What a time to be alive.
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>>181499003
>He wasn't even top tier before. Dva and Winston are top-tier and he at least countered them
Roadhog was literally the most picked tank in Diamond and Masters before the nerf.
And his pickrate was comparable to Winston/D.Va in grandmaster.
http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/06/overwatch-hero-meta-report-pc-s5-w3.html
He was an ez carry crutch to climb ladder with.
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Thinking about becoming a Mercy main and moving to Asian server to avoid the jajajas of the US, think it will work?
I just wanna leave plat already.
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>>181499367
Make sure to buy the right panties before you do
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>>181496585
>this guy again
Go away.
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>roadhog hooks a player
>100% pick rate mercy heals them
>enemy team over extends slightly to protect them
>they don't die and get away
God I fucking hate these chokehold maps, I don't care if you fucks think roadhog is still good why do we have such stupid map design. This makes me miss fucking 2_fort
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What's the most annoying tracer line to spam?
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>>181498549
I just can't fucking get over how horrible that game was. JK can take his "NO OFFENDING IN MUH GAME" policy, roll it up and shove up his own ass. His "gg ez" filters, medals instead of normal scoreboards are doing jack shit to fix the underlying problems with the game.
It seems like matchmaker for whatever reason just hates diamond and shoves all frustrated, lowskilled and easily tilted people here. Why?!
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why does every match seem to have a hanzo or widow now?
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>>181499000
what do i win?
>>181499086
to an extent yes he countered flank heroes along with winston and dva. it wasn't enough to warrant him being a good pick but it was there.
>>181499115
I'm gm/top 500. you're missing the entire point and it doesn't change the fact that he doesnt one shot kill in skirmishes (not talking about hooks).
They should have just tried another way to nerf his combo without hurting his gun dps.
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>>181499601
Check me out.
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>>181498464
because it's not about killing the rein it's about jumping over the cuck and killing everyone behind him, why would you focus someone with that much armor with winston/tracer if there are still healers present?

also even in a 1v1 a competent winston would zap a rein outside of his range and avoid pins, it would take to long to kill him but he's still just to mobile for Rein.

>>181499003
Isn't Jeff supposedly a plat or something?

>>181499086
he didn't directly counter dive but he was an easy counter initiator against a dive comp, so then your team could counter dive
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I dont play Hog anymore cause he requires effort now, might as well just stick with Sym and vape the whole team away
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>>181498306
Shimada crime family a dead. They're chasing after Hanzo's ass and Genji gets to pork Swiss poon.
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>>181499601
All of them. Her voice is so fucking grating Jesus Christ, my friends and I just autistically spit them back in a shit Cockney accent whenever we play (not in team chat ofc). I'd still fug her tho
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>>181499671
>I'm gm/top 500
If you used pre-nerf Roadhog to get there, then you used a crutch, just like Mercy mains. And if you didn't use Roadhog, then what are you basing your argument on? The whinings of former Roadhog mains who can't land two shots in a row? His gun dps is fine. It is completely absurd that people are complaining that they can't hit two shots in a row. It is almost like a parody.
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>>181499303
Anything under GM is fucking irrelevant. It looks like tank usage is almost even up there anyway
>flanker/dive meta
>both heroes that killed flankers nerfed into the ground
wew lad
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>>181499648
People are training with the easy characters. This game is riddled with stupidly easy abilities and every kill is worth something if your team is able to capitalize on it.
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>>181498275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd3uVFQX3AY
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>>181499819
>Anything under GM is fucking irrelevant
I talked about GM too.
>It looks like tank usage is almost even up there anyway
Exactly.
Doesn't even sound like you're talking about GM when you're talking about Hog not being top tier, but tournaments, which is a totally different environment.
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>>181499686
hey according to this general roadhog is still good because you can shoot all those little mobility high priority targets with zero escape abilties such as mercy, genji, ana, tracer, reaper, mei just a faster than before.
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>>181500008
hey according to this general shooting someone twice in a row is fucking impossible if only i had aim in a shooting gun
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>>181499601
Have you ever beam daijoubu?
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anyone have tips on what you should know for each rank.

like positioning, aiming.
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>>181499815
I didn't main hog in comp ya dingus. I played zenyatta/rein solo queue. his gun dps is objectively lower.
You can hit 2 shots in a row, but 2 perfect shots are what it takes to kill a single person, and i'm talking about full pellet damage.
It happens, but it's so unrewarding. you're better off picking another hero.

>>181499941
Wait, so hog was balanced before the nerf? Is that what that means?
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playing against a competent ana is absolute hell, i've only just now realized this because most anas are shit, especially at low tiers

sleep dart the second anyone pops ult, sleep dart on rein from some fucking crazy angle, perfect pissbottles, nanoboost every 30 seconds
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>>181500051
It's not impossible you stupid strawmanning fuck. you can obviously shoot them twice but you need to perfectly land the spread bubble to kill them.

god forbid if they get healed. ironically, you're more dependent on hook kills than before
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>>181500113
>I didn't main hog in comp ya dingus. I played zenyatta/rein solo queue. his gun dps is objectively lower.
Learn to read a whole post before you respond.
>You can hit 2 shots in a row, but 2 perfect shots are what it takes to kill a single person, and i'm talking about full pellet damage.
Sounds like excuses to me.
>Wait, so hog was balanced before the nerf? Is that what that means?
No, because contrary to popular belief, Roadhog is bad in this meta. That's why he sees no play in tournaments against perfectly executed Dive comps, because an actually good Dive comp COMPLETELY shits on Roadhog. But Roadhog was so strong he can compete in it on ladder anyway.
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>>181500051
The reason everyone thinks it's impossible is because due to the way shotgun spread works you have the chance of doing jack diddly squat unless you're hitting a tank and in that case you were never going to combo kill them anyways.
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I used to main Lucio and Winston because I wanted to do the most for my team at all times.

Now I main Sombra and Widowmaker because I want to actively take fun away from the enemy team.
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>>181500221
>It's not impossible you stupid strawmanning fuck
>wah wah why did you respond to my strawman with a strawman

>you can obviously shoot them twice but you need to perfectly land the spread bubble to kill them.
This "perfectly" shit sounds like dismissive bs desu. You just need practice.
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>>181500110
sure

grandmaster - position behind tanks if you're not a tank and try to get the high ground whenever possible

aim good

masters and below - who the fuck cares lmao
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i've been drinking rum and coke all night. who shold i play?
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>>181500051
>there are people saying this
Almost as bad as that one guy insisting Junkrat was good.
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>>181500335
>shotgun spread
>needs practice
>literal fucking RNG spread
>n-n-needs practice
This just in roadhog's gun has no spread apparently.
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>>181499941
>gm pick rates for tanks since the roadhog nerf

47.84% winston
36.74% d.va
8.09% zarya
3.45% reinhardt
2.24% orisa
1.64% roadhog

hog was top tier before the nerf along with winston and d.va but tank usage is very lopsided in gm.

gm pick rates before the nerf have hog in second after dva, although going by trends people were converting to dva over hog he still had a higher pick rate than her until the nerf and for a while was picked more often than winston if i'm remembering right.
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>>181500485
junkrat has the potential to be good, but like a few other heroes he's stuck in beta
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>>181498275
she cant have a normal sleep anymore, she suffers from ptsd; after the antartica incident where only she survived and his work buddies dont, well... her drone friend helps her a bit but still
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>>181500335
It's not dismissive. I can't tell if you're baiting or not because it does take two PERFECT bubble shots to kill someone back to back without them being healed.
You're not that good, I know this because I'm probably higher than you and it hardly ever happens when I play him.
Roadhog just doesn't bring enough contribution to warrant picking him when compared to other tanks or even dps if you used to consider him that.
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>>181500581
>ROADHOG IS GOOD GUYS
>1% pickrate
lmfao stay silver /owg/
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>>181500760
You're admitting roadhog is bad and not being able to pull a kill out of his shitty dps means someone is bad? You're a moron
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>>181500580
>Reaper's shotguns have spread
>That means you don't need to practice with them everyone is equally the same skill with Reaper
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I hate this game.

I tried the "stack up with your buddies and things will get better" meme and I switched to pharah 30% to 99% and carried that round when they all might as well been back at spawn spamming voice lines and emotes at each other.

Then I get the gold/silver medals for fucking everything that fucking everyone else should be doing with Reinhardt or Zenyatta twenty-four-seven because the random shitter dps suffer from Edward Scissorhands Syndrome and whatever poor soul who didn't insta-lock quick enough on Hanzo has to flex healer, bless their dumbshit hearts as well, unless we have a mercy main passing through on her way to masters then we have the highest honor of getting rezzed once or twice, but only when it'll be a potg that she can put in her le epic xd montage.

ONCE every blue moon two or three other players are on the same team who know how to do something and it's a decent game, even if we lose, because at the very least it looks like they turned their monitors on.
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>>181500431
win/sym if you're gonna play comp. who fucking cares if otherwise
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>>181500431
Bastion. Waste your time shooting at teammates and deflecting weebs
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>>181501183
yes
no
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>>181501231
get better friends
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>>181501213
It's almost like reaper isn't a tub of lard and and dodge while attacking making him capable of sustaining damage which makes spread not really a huge issue to work around. But Even then reaper can shoot at an out of melee range and hit targets, roadhog's gun has fucking massive spread that's as big and bigger than some hero hitboxes. Don't worry though reaper also suffers from rng shit spread every now and again and also gets shitraped as a result.
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>>181500580
>>181500760
You don't need literally perfect bubble shots. You're just bad at using shotguns. It doesn't matter if you're higher than me because you either used pre-nerf Roadhog to get there, meaning you're shit but used a crutch, or you didn't, meaning you're just taking the words of shitty crutch Hogs as fact.
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bragging rights time, post your top 3 heros and your rank

Mid-Masters
1. Zenyatta
2. Genji
3. D.va
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>>181501581
Grand Master, trying to break Top 500
>Zarya
>D.Va
>Orisa
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i'm lazy someone stitch this up for me
http://tealleadership.tumblr.com/post/161505753851/he-took-a-bath-for-this
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>>181501581
Zarya
Lucio
Pharah
3800+
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>>181501581
Gold
1. Reinhardt
2. Junkrat
3. Winston
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if you take my character i will ruin the game for you
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>>181501581
Bronze
1. Bastion
2. Hanzo
3. Junkrat
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>>181501546
>You can't say a game is shit if you only played it for 1 hour
>The game must have been good since you played it for so long.
This is literally you right now.
Please take a break.
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>>181501721
Calm down xXx Gaymur Grill xXx
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>>181501546
>implying I ever needed hook to secure kills before nerf
You're a fucking idiot lol. I bet you think I only peeked every eight seconds too.
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>>181501581
High gold, always hovering a few points away from plat

Torbjorn
Winston
Junkrat
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>>181501505
>It's almost like reaper isn't a tub of lard and and dodge while attacking making him capable of sustaining damage which makes spread not really a huge issue to work around
I think you may have had a stroke anon, you should really get medical attention
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>>181501546
>If you played hog you're wrong
>If you didn't play hog you're wrong.
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>turn off voice chat
>gain 400 sr
Hmm
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>>181501871
His post was fine other than the double "and"s

keep going tho this is pretty funny
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>>181501581
low Master
Zen
Winston
Lucio

On the side note, as soon as I got master, in every second game at the start I see "Hey, can I play a healer please?" shit. Is this normal for this rank and above?
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> 2cp
> 2/2
> Defend first
> lose 1 point
> 2/3
> Attack
> Get one point
> 3/4
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>>181501740
Did you respond to the wrong post?

>>181501867
I didn't say anything about hooks. Hog being able to one shot even without hooks was retarded. Get better at aiming you crutch using fag.
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>>181501874
You are either a crutch Hog player or you listen to crutch Hog players. Anyone who is actually trying while also being good is still playing him well. Fucking if Lord Harris can do it what's your excuse.
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>>181502097
Nope.
>get better at having 100% accuracy on a shotgun with massive spread
wew lad I NEED to see your mmr
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>>181501871
Since you seemed to ignore my better-said second point allow me to repeat myself. Reaper isn't a fat-ass tank and can* dodge and run around enemies he's targeting while sustaining fire. He has an 8 shot clip compared to roadhog's 5 (an animation canceling reload allowing him to shoot even more), manageable firing speed for anyone with a functioning brain, and has spread that isn't bigger than some hero's hitboxes (unlike roadhog's).
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>>181502157
>you NEED 100% accuracy!!!!
wrong, and i'm not dignifying this bullshit meme argument
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>>181502178
Sure, but just because he has spread on his guns doesn't mean they're bad or that he doesn't have to aim them, and it doesn't mean he can't benefit from good aim.
All that other stuff is totally irrelevant. It's what makes Reaper an offense hero and Roadhog a tank, but that's not part of the current discussion.
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>>181500431
dva can be played at any sobriety
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>>181502097
>get better at aiming
Only two types of people say this ever, D.Va mains or mercy mains. Whichever you are doesn't matter because either way you're still a massive moron. I am more capable of landing kills with torbjorn's spread than roadhog's because it isn't the size of jupiter.
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If RH is still good then why is his pickrate 1% in GM in a meta of heroes he's supposed to counter?
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>>181501972
1. healers have higher win rates in other words people want to make sure the job is done properly, to ensure that win rate and not leave it up to randoms. same with tanks

2. there's always those spooked guys who don't have confidence in their aim, and just main supports/tanks

the character i always have trouble getting is D.va personally, I just go mercy/soldier/tracer if i can't get those first 3. Lucio is so good but I never bothered to learn to wall ride properly so i feel like a fraud when i use him
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>>181502447
Is this supposed to be impressive
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>>181502418
>Reaper's shotguns have spread
>That means you don't need to practice with them everyone is equally the same skill with Reaper
I wonder who said this first. Also of course roadhog can benefit from good aim, my point is his spread makes it totally random as to if you can secure a kill or not.
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>squeaker picks Hanzo and starts trying to give out a strat for the team
>ignore what he does completely, pick Zen and push our team to the point without trying
>shits his pants in anger for being able to lead the team as a support character
>die once after a 10 player streak
>squeaker starts getting mad and tells me I have to change to a D.VA
>ignore him even more and win the match
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>>181502649
Have you ever heard of sarcasm?
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>>181502650
His best skin besides Junkenstein.
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>on EU server
>Lijang Tower, Control Center
>we're 1 on 1
>we have two healers, Zenyatta (me) and a Lucio
>histerical shouting about needing Mercy
>one player, level 50, changes to her 1 sec before we exit spawn
>"Dude, we're 3 healers now, wtf"
>"No worry, I'm dps"
>She proceeds to use only the blaster
>I don't think she even ressed once
>she manages to get kills
>we win
>my fucking sides have gone to the Lunar Colony
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>>181501581
About 60 hours on Ana, but still pretty shit with her, since she requires a lot of concentration.
I'm a cruel person tho, so no remorse for subjecting teammates to my mad skillz with grandma
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>>181502859
Even if you had some smidgen of sarcasm in your post that didn't just sound like sarcasm in your head, it wouldn't make a difference because I am reading words on a screen on a Mongolian scroll sharing form instead of hearing tone in someone's voice.
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>>181503112
Here's a hint, when someone says something ridiculous in greentext like this
>I think Micheal Chu is a competent writer and I am happy with the state of Overwatch's lore
It's almost always sarcasm
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>>181502596
if a pick is a tank there's a 1.64% chance that the tank picked was roadhog

if you don't look at just tanks at his true pick rate, in the roster of 24 heros there's a 0.43% that the hero picked was roadhog in GM

roadhog is truly trash, only Mei and Bastion get picked less but their win rates are well above 55% while Roadhog is well below 50% in GM

he's the character with the lowest win rate in GM and if you look at all ranks then he loses out to only sombra in terms of win rate, but she's actually not that bad a pick now and she's only that low because people use her to throw games.

Press F for Roadhog
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What's the consensus on the Reaper Soul reaping change? I think It's... Ok? I get to deal with tank much easier, which is mostly his job.

And make his dueling much more consistent. But it still feels weird not picking up souls. I think overall it's less healing, but more when it's needed.

Not going to lie walking up to a tank and killing them and leaving with 90% hp is a lot of fun.
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>>181501581
Unranked casual because whiny babies make ranked queues cancer and also the golden guns are ugly. Even Zenyatta's balls look better default imo, and his is the best gold weapon. I'd probably be like bronze or something anyway my aim is shit.

1. Lucio
2. Reaper
3. ZenyattaJunkrat and Symmetra are tied at less than an hour behind

Wallriding is too much fun, and the rest of Lucio's kit is just as great
Reaper is the only offense hero I can play decently, and his Blackwatch skin is hot as fuck so it works out
I started playing Zenyatta purely because I liked his voice, and now I play him because teabagging with discord headshots is hilarious
Junkrat and Symmetra are there for child abuse since I only play quickplay and everyone is bad
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>still logged into battle.net
>game decides to drop me because authentication between overwatch and bnet fuck up
>free -50 sr and 10 minute wait

wew i fucking love this game
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>>181501581
>Reaper
>Zenyatta
>Reinhart
It whichs for what is needed, but I love Reaper for tank busting, Zenyatta because Bask in the shadow of doubt, and Reinhart has been a staple pick for me since Beta, and he's still good.
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>>181503795
It's less healing overall, so he took a hit to his solo roam and assassinate squishies game, but it's about the same against tanks(more if they have a healer) so he's just as good as he was there before.
The real benefit though, is you can drop into the enemy team at a quarter health, press Q and instantly heal to full. The only way to kill an ulting reaper is to do 250 damage in a single hit.
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>>181502596
it's because people haven't figured out how he's supposed ot be played yet

I've been finding that playing him like a ranged reaper and using the hook to grab retreaters works best. I'm still getting used to having 5 shots, it throws me off a lot weirdly enough.
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>>181503379
>>181502596
Where are you getting these numbers, by the way?
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>>181490520
Damn... this is a powerful image, Mercy mains deserve our respect...
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Have a feeling I'll be uninstalling it again soon
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So where are the new figurines?
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>>181503795
Overwatch is the king of late changes.
Mccree was fucking mental, so a couple months after him getting nerfed into the ground we got ana with her sleep.
D.va was insane back in triple tank, so when triple tank was obsolete - blizz rolled out with a clear counter - Sombra.
Now, after almost half a year from triple tank, we finally got an even better tankbuster, exactly when no one is even playing tank-heavy comps.
I fucking love this attitude, it's tons of fun - trying to predict what kind of upside down balance change we will get next.
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>>181504223
Well said my friend, well said.
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>>181493568
I can relate, if theres one of those then its a guaranteed headache and I mute them because theres a certain chance screaming will follow after
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>>181504326
GSC lied. They announced new shit but it wasn't overwatch related. They only showed the Mercy nendo and Genji figma.
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Has anyone even seen any Roadhogs picked/do good? In fifty games I swear I've only even seen one do well and that's mostly because the team was helping him kill off the target he hooked.
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>>181504505
We played a weird game on Lijang tower yesterday, where enemy rolled with rein/orisa, so 90% of the time our hog was breaking barriers. Since we got earthshattered less than the enemy, I'd say the man did pretty good job.
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>>181504385
When dive comp has been abandoned, Blizzard will introduce a character who excels at stopping the dive characters but is mediocre everywhere else.

>>181504505
>a character does well because of teamwork

HOLY PENIS WHAT A SCOOP!
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>>181504208
overbuff, it's just a meme site with meaningless stats that have no value unless you already thoroughly know the game at which point they become redundant trivia.

the site also talks about competitive/ korean meta, which has some bearing on high level meta, which is even further removed from the mid to high level meta, which is leagues away from mid to low ranks where the average readers tend to be.

just practice your aim, do your character's job, stay near your team, and use voice. you'll be at least plat in no time, the site is interesting but useless
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>>181504601
I think you're looking small. What we need is a counter to widowmaker, because back in the beta she was the best dps hands down, and after a year of active game developement it's finally time to put a stop to her reign of chaos.
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>>181504505
I've seen them plenty. Not 200% pickrate like they were before, but fairly frequently. They've all done just as well as before nerf too, because they know how to aim and work with their team.
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>the same people who think hanzo is op/noskill now complain about the roadhog nerf
Roadhog has always been the no skill hero of OW
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>im the only healer
>mercy keeps buttfucking me
>no one turns on her
>team bitching at me for not healing

???
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>>181493643
good lord

The poor guy, I can't believe he listened to that for like 7 minutes
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>>181505129
>Roadhog has always been the no skill hero of OW
This desu. Pre-nerf Roadhog was easily the least skill intensive hero in the game. His skill floor and ceiling were the exact same line.
Now he has an actual skill floor, but his ceiling is higher than before.
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>>181504505
no, and anybody who says yes is obviously lying through their teeth
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>>181505479
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>>181505129
>>181505223
reminder that anti roadhog posters are probably mercy mains who kept getting hooked before they could rez their daddy

only mercy mains are known to be this passive aggressive, and only a mercy main would put themselves above others like this during casual conversation

it all fits people, WAKE UP
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>>181493643
>HE'S A FUCKING GOLD
>he's clearly diamond
???? is it just an unwinnable
>be in gold
>haha ur gold ur shit
>climb to diamond
>hjaha ur gold ur shit
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>>181495483
>Korean picks 76
>Does fuck all while I as D.Va get gold elims and gold dmg.
>Didn't use ult once even to kill supports
I wanna get out of gold so much.
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>>181493643
his mom needs to ground him
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>>181505479
That's not how the esophagus works
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>>181505797
It is if vore makes your tinkle winkle
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>>181499601
too slow (go fast and spam @ enemy retards with potato aim)
check me out
aw rubbish (spam when ur team is shit and full of retard picks)


playing tracer is tilt central my guy
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>tfw playing Widow and the enemy team thinks they're juking me by bunnyhopping
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>>181505920
But the king of spam is Lucio, not Tracer
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firestrike should be able to headshot for 300 damage
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>>181505920
>no mention of EVAH GET THAT FEELIN OF DEJAVU anywhere

You don't know SHIT about tilting people with Tracer my dude.
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>>181506020
Go have a nap, granda.
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>tfw you hatch out a Dive Comp plan in spawn and it goes without a hitch with perfect team coordination and communication
>Enemy team is staggered, tilted and can barely get off kills

The fact that this all happened in Gold is unbelievable. That was probably my best match in a long time. I'm kinda glad Dive is a thing because I like playing D.Va and Winston.
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>>181501581
>3.4
>Ana
>Lucio
>Zarya

Nothing but Lucio this season though
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>>181505989
>WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO JACKPOT

Why does Lucio have to yell in half of them?
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>>181501581
Grandmasters
Hanzo
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>>181501581
2700
Lucio
Sombra
Soldier
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>>181506156
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Am I the only one that likes playing the Zarya dive comp?
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>>181501581
3892
1. Winston
2. Roadhog (RIP)
3. Lucio
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>>181506297
>yfw that game
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>>181505593
Not him but I have a road hog main on my friends list who made it to 3100 pre-nerf last season and is now hard stuck in plat sitting at around 2600 with over 200 competitive games played.
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I want a new character who is a Nier Autotoma-level humanoid robot with a copy of Ganymede's mind installed in it, a snappily-dressed pretty boy in the same color scheme as his bird form and still "talks" with chirps and tweets.

And in the Offense class.
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>>181506602
Got tired of posting boipussy?
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>Pick Mercy because no one else was willing to heal and the dps were small and mobile
>Enemy burns sound barrier, self destruct and aimbot when they run in
>Tell my team to die on the point
>They don't
>Die all scattered
>Tracer is frantically screaming for healing in voice chat
>Runs to me with the entire enemy team behind them
>We both die
>"Where the fuck was the rez?"
I think people have gotten to the point that they believe Mercy is omnipotent, which probably feeds the egos of the people who main her. I should have just picked Lucio and let Jesus take the wheel.
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>>181506652
Most of the complaining comes from people with low SR who don't understand how to target Mercy. Good players shit all over her.
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>playing wm
>hear someone trying to flank
>turn around and wait for him to appear and shoot him in the face
>get called a soundwhore

What the fuck is soundwhore? Do they expect me to play with my sound turned off or something?
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>>181506772
People don't realize you can hear them. It's how I always pinpoint squishies, Mercys hiding, and Pharahs in the air.
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>>181506772
Someone who pays attention to footsteps for kills, like you're supposed to. It comes from CoD.

OW's footstep noise is overly loud where you can hear through speakers unlike CoD where you need a headset to hear footsteps.
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>>181506965
>never played CoD
>use footstep to find targets anyway
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>>181506965
CS was doing it before CoD and to much greater extent
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>>181506965
>It comes from CoD.
Yeah, back in the day when 90% of people playing were playing on Xbox with friends over on some shitty TV, and only the true tryhards had headsets and shit.
That was 10 years ago, though. People just live in a time capsule or something.
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does it bother anyone else that you get an elimination even if you barely damage an enemy?

like ill get to the end of the match with way more kills than i actually deserved.

i feel like its the elephant in the room that no ones talks about because it makes you feel like you do better than you really are
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>>181507053
Never really played CS back in its heyday. If I did though my aim would be a lot better than what it is.
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>>181507289
just look at the "final blows" stat or whatever, elims don't mean shit
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>>181507289
I always thought about that. Why does a tick of damage I did to a hero who I completely forgot about count as a elimination?
Final Blows should be an Elimination and they should create an Assist medal so the "I have Gold Elims" dickwaving when it was probably off of assists can end.
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>>181507465
>>181507502

Even then final blows doesn't necessarily mean much when you get one lucky Dva pistol shot after the Junkrat and Winston whittled down the enemy. With hero damage being the medal now instead of overall I feel that's really the only way to tell if your team was working.
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>>181506370
Cus he's an ADHD teenage nigga boi?
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is the loot box buff out yet
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How do I stop dying /owg/? I don't think I overextend, in fact I usually have gold objective time, but I still die ridiculously often. even as tank
(this is 600 hours of quick play but my comp stats aren't much better)
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>>181508062
Try paying more attention to your surroundings. Definition of overextending depends on where the bulk of your team is located, so you probably shouldn't be on the point when you are down two people and the enemy didn't lose a person.
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Yeah keep saying Orisa is shit the buffs will make it easier for me to have 4 golds
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>>181508312
Don't forget to include your rank in the counter.
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>>181508174
Thanks anon, this made me realize I almost never back down even when I become outnumbered, I'll try to be less suicidal from now on
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>>181490950
I want to touch Tracer's butt like that :(
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>>181508509
It really pays off to sometimes just turn around as a tank/dps on the frontline. Your backline might just be slow as fuck, so you'll need to remind them they should actually use legs to fucking move, or they might be assaulted by some dipshit flanker, in which case it's pretty much a free kill.
When I play Zarya - I'm constantly rotating, keeping an eye on supports, just in case.
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>summer games is almost here and there's still no new hero
fug
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>>>/v/382635250
>/owg/ babies defending their casual shooter
lmaoing @ your lives, holy shit
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>>181509129
>unironically linking to /v/

kill yourself
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clips.twitch
.tv/DifferentAmusedButterFloof
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>>181509719
great post faggot
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>team refuses to stick together or follow any discernible strategy
Is there any hope?
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>>181509906
Grandmaster
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>>181509906
Nope. The only thing that really helps you rank up is mechanical aim and/or timings. So, sometimes even top-500 players aren't sentient enough to understand concepts of teamplay and coordinated work
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How many Top 500 players are there
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>>181510581
4500
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>>181509996
>>181510310
I figured as much.
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I'm doing placement matches for comp for the first time. Jesus christ do people choose to be this shit? Am I having a stroke? Why would you want to lose?

>Healer wont heal and is just shooting people
>no one will switch from their favorite/main
>half of the team keeps over extending chasing a tracer
>people keep using torb and mei on offense.
>no one will play the point or cart

just fuck my life yo
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>basically forced to pick Support basically every single match because all my teammates are either blind and unable to read the "No Healers" blurb, or more concerned with getting their Genji PotG than ever approaching the point
Is this my future? Am I destined to become a Lúcio main?
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>>181491949
please weaboowatch stay out of esports
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anyone else afraid of playing comp alone? i keep thinking i'll drop 100 sr if i play alone despite me having 70%+ winrates on the characters I play
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>>181511462
WAAAAAAAAAAAAH THEYRE NOT PLAYING THE GAME HOW I WANT THEM MOOOOMMM!!!!!!!
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>>181511930

go to bed
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>>181512345
*stays up*
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>>181512387
BAD
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>>181493295

i mainly use it because my voice is deep as fuck and it makes kids listen to me when they start flinging shit at eachother
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>>181490950
I doubt they would add /u/ stuff in their game
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>>181495147

>tfw bought the game 3 weeks ago
>keep floating between 2300 and 2460

i just want out of here
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>>181497850

Posh and Sporty
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>group up with me
>Tracer runs in and dies
>"omg where are you, do I have to do everything?"
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Fuck the people playing this game sometimes. Having a shitty morning, think okay I'll play some vidya to take my mind off it. Play some OW, I like playing Zarya. Half my team left first game in, some shitty Hanzo in a 3 stack starts being an ass despite the fact that I had 4 golds and was the only one on the payload the entire game.

>Zarya do you know how sound works?
>It works like this
>Things happen around you and you react to them
>:^)
>The rest of his group starts too

I get people like this in a lot have a lot of people muted/blocked at this point. I think it's time to take a break and go finish my backlog of non-multiplayer games.
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>>181495642
just stay away until theres 10-15 more hereoes and they can start balancing properly, so 2-3 years from now when the game is dead hopefully
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>reaper has been out of the meta for so long that people never check corners when pushing
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>Finally reach masters after god knows how long
>Pick Zarya
>Someone accuses me of throwing

What the flippant fuck? Since when has Zarya been considered a throw hero?
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I WANT A REINHARDT TITTYPAD
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>>181505479
I have ripped open the starry vaults of the heavens and revealed the face of God.
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>>181511502
>Mobility, utility, healing and damage all wrapped into one overpowered character

Whats wrong with playing the hardest carry hero?
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>>181499000
top left of the crosshair?

am i 2late? im likely the only one who played wot and wt in here
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>>181513815
>not knowing about new meta
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>>181513815
No idea, Zarya has always been solid. I think it has to do with Zen being picked a lot with Transcendence shutting down her ult.
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>want to play something other than tank or healer
>Can't because retards insta-lock DPS every single map/match/mode
>run in solo and die over and over and over
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>>181511502
At least you enjoy it(I hope so). I, for once, used to mostly play Ana, flexing to lucio/zen from time to time. Nowdays, every fucking game before your brain is even able to process that the match started - a silver portrait mercymain already picks mercy, and you bet your ass he's not going to switch if you try to play chicken.
So, me being a submissive slut that I am, every time I get stuck on a zen/lucio, heroes that I don't even enjoy all that much.
Can't wait for that mercy nerf, honestly. Waiting for it more than for the second coming.
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>>181514174
Mercy can effectively "shut down" any ult if left alive, that's why you kill the supports first, it's no reason to not pick certain heroes.
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>>181509906
your highest probability option is to get one competent friend and both of you get good at safely initiating a fight by diving the enemy carry. a good Winston/D.va and Lucio/Zen/flanker initiation duo can constantly set up win conditions even if your enemy has better aim. all your team really has to do is engage the enemy hard while you divert attention and fragment them.

this basic strategy plus training your aim will give you the most bang for your buck and consistency. timing and awareness which might take you a while to develop, but other than that just look up guides.
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Sniper Rifle from TF2 >>> Floppy submachine gun from Ovw
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>KOTH
>Torb+Symm
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This is what healwhores are for.
http://rule34hentai.net/post/view/251258
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Let's assume that my team is shit and doesn't follow up in anything - what's the best way to play hogman?
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>>181514174
Zen entirely shuts down Genji ult too, but Genji is still a very popular pick.
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>>181514805
>expecting genji mains to pick anything else
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>>181514858
I guess my point is more that people very rarely bitch about someone picking Genji.
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gibe feedback on some dumb ideas i had

>mercy ress is now her E, it has a 20~30 second CD and her Q gives her ~0.5 seconds of iframe, 500HP and a -95% CD on her E for 8~10 seconds

>bastion can heal and shoot in recon mode. sentry mode has a 250hp shield and is now vulnerable to melee

>torbjorn +50% rof on ult is now a instant reload buff. he can use health restores to make armorpacks on a 3 to 1 rate, so a large pack means ~80 scrap

>tracer E no longer heals her. it however restores blink.

>symetra autism beam is now a ~15m range gun with a cone of autoaim aprox the same size of soldier ult. damage amp resets with new target. still turn trhu corner

>widowmaker ult now also gives her +75% damage for as long as its active. gotta lower that skill floor

>hog now gives to his healers +50% more ult charge for healing him. it includes his own healing

>soldier running skill now also doubles the distance he jumps

>ana damage is now 100 over the course of 5 seconds

>sombrero EMP range increased in 10 meters, gun reload set to 0.7 seconds
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>>181513815
She's not viable anymore since the winston dva meta
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>>181514958
What the fuck did I just read?
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>>181514975
>winston and dva counter isnt viable since the winston dva meta
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>>181514975
But it means she's more viable. She can bubble support, get charge and fuck up Winston.
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>>181515160
Since when was Zarya ever a Winston counter?
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>tfw playing zenyatta and the enemy team doesn't really feel like targetting you
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>temple of anus
>we get first point in 2 minutes
>we try to push immediately
>we fail because some niggers didnt know how to walk to that point
>next 6 minutes everyone stays at choke point and nobody pushes
>enemies get the first point in 2 minutes as well
>they push all the time
it was a draw but there were chances for great loss
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>>181515245
Have you ever played her against him? You get charged like crazy
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>every pro, t500, GM DPS, Tank, and Support player has said nu-Roadhog is garbag
>/owg/ posters with their gold insight says "roadhog is still good you're just le bad :ppp"

Really says a lot tbqh.
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>>181515342
>enemies not targeting you
>8 deaths
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>>181514958
>>mercy ress is now her E, it has a 20~30 second CD and her Q gives her ~0.5 seconds of iframe, 500HP and a -95% CD on her E for 8~10 seconds
I assume this includes her res working on a single person at a time.
Redpill: Watching all your efforts to kill someone go to vain is really not fun. Nobody would enjoy this mercy, except for mercymains. Not even going to talk about competetive implications, this is just ridiculously powerful.
>mercy ress is now her E, it has a 20~30 second CD and her Q gives her ~0.5 seconds of iframe, 500HP and a -95% CD on her E for 8~10 seconds
He already can heal and shoot in recon mode, wtf?
Vulnerability to melee doesn't make a lot of sense, it's basically a block of steel you're punching. If you are going to attempt making bastion fun - don't support existing stupid "Sit down and hold leftclick" gameplay - try to think of something more fun, while still true to his omnic-army nature.
>torbjorn +50% rof on ult is now a instant reload buff. he can use health restores to make armorpacks on a 3 to 1 rate, so a large pack means ~80 scrap
This one's pretty good. Except armor is crazy good and is potent to steamroll, as in:
You fend off the first wave of attackers
You get armor
Since your teammates have armor - it's easier to fend attacks again
In turn fending more attacks brings you more armor to support the defense
And so on.
So, I'd suggest toning it down a bit, making it a little "side source' of armor, so that you can't suit your supports before the enemy arrive at the point.
>>tracer E no longer heals her. it however restores blink.
Tracer is annoyingly hard to heal, so her E and healthpacks are mostly her source of healing. Dunno, probably a good change, but most likely if implemented - would handicap the aspiring tracers, while making unstoppable war machines out of ones like S00n. And tracer isn't that popular of a pick either, doesn't seem like she needs a rework at all.
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>>181515414
That makes her about as much of a counter to him as she is to bastion.
Getting charge isn't countering someone, killing them easily in every matchup is countering someone.
And while Zarya can absolutely shred Winston at decent charge, she'll still die to him if he decides to not zap her pink circle and save his monkey business for later instead.

I mean Zarya is never a bad pick but counter isn't the word I'd choose.
But she's strong against D.Va at least.
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>>181514674
Your opinion is shit but I respect it nonetheless
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>>181514760
>either jump off the map or play normally until you inevitably get killed
>press H before respawning
>pick something else
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>>181501581
GrandMaster/Top500 (I drift in between constantly)

1. Winston
2. Reinhardt
3. Mercy
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>>181515485
yes mercy would lose her AoE ress. possibly would need los to ress too

bastion healing and shooting would make him a second pick to soldier

torb changes would likely make him be picked more on attack and the armor is a okay counter to a few divers like tracer and winston. it might be the case of having the armor pack giving at best 50.

tracer is literally a must pick on the top echelon of OW. she needs a change, this would force her to pull back more often that not to heal.
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>>181514958
If my brain was somehow dipped in acid, every part of the cortex stripped away until only the cerebellum remained so that I could only do the most basic of human movements while having the intellect of a fish and if I were then forced to write a thesis on astrophysics, what I'd write would be less retarded than yout post
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>>181515815
Lucio's been a must pick since the game was released but I don't see you nerfing him to shit :~) That Tracer nerf is unviable because healing is part of her core gameplay and is required to get one of her achievements.
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>>181515691
Is this CANON Widowmaker?
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>teammates too selfish to heal or tank
>they cant get any kills
my fault I know
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>>181514958
>symetra autism beam is now a ~15m range gun with a cone of autoaim aprox the same size of soldier ult. damage amp resets with new target. still turn trhu corner
Bad idea. Sym is annoying, but mostly until you get to ranks where people become more custom to their mains and start actually shooting the damn girl, at which point she becomes very, very weak and only works as a surprise "Haha autoaim obliteration in half a second" flanker for once, maybe twice if you are lucky. I don't think this is a good change at all.

>widowmaker ult now also gives her +75% damage for as long as its active
Nah, she doesn't need that. Rather make her grappling hook have an option to not pull her immideately, but behave like an actual grappling hook - allow her to adjust the length and carefully position herself for an optimal spot. Although that would probably require some reworks of sightlines.

>hog now gives to his healers +50% more ult charge for healing him. it includes his own healing
But why? He's already pretty damn good, he's already being pocketed by every healer in the world, why reward people for stuff that's rewarding by itself with even more ult charge? I don't get it.

>soldier running skill now also doubles the distance he jumps
Again, why? Do you want any possibility for other hitscan heroes, both existing and only concepted for now to never fucking ever, not even once have a chance to compete? His relocation is already quick enough, he doesn't need a long jump to go along with it.

>ana damage is now 100 over the course of 5 seconds
I'm all for making Ana damage lingering, but if you're gonna change her damage output - you gotta change her healing too, so this probably should go with toning leftclick healing a little bit. Just a tiny bit, to keep her ultcharge gains near untouched.

>sombrero EMP range increased in 10 meters, gun reload set to 0.7 seconds
Good change, but I'd also add more accuracy to her water pistol, because its spread is fucking dumb.
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>>181501581
3320
Mercy
Zen
Lucio
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I don't understand how people can have secondary accounts. Leveling up to 25 is painfully slow and boring.
>>
Mercy has no counter
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I wanna fuck Pharah
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>>181515581
I understand where you're coming from, but since Winston's primary job is to kill squishies and she can often prevent that from happening with a single bubble, I'd still say she counts as a counter.
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>>181516061
>Genji
>Winston
>Tracer
You tried.
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>>181515815
Honestly, top echelons worry blizzard the least. Those guys can adapt, they have good gamesense and good aim. They will manage something potentially overpowered, but being locked out from the 95% of the playerbase by high entry skill level.
Overwatch is not a game you can balance for top-50 players and expect the rest of the players to have good time. Pharah is a good example, her pickrate drops sugnificantly after masters, but if you take a look at lower ranks - she's tearing shit up real bad.
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>>181516132
none of them have the dps to assassinate her

you tried
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>>181514760
soldier is your best bet for a solo carry now, new hog is shit and shouldn't be played.

old hog could initiate, counter tanks, kill flankers, and stop ults. his best team up character in my opinion was lucio. to position the team, sustain, help your healers escape flankers, and counter ults in case you flub your hook
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>>181516120
His primary job is to soften the squishies and maybe kill them. The flankers do the actual killing. Zarya still only bubbles one character while leaving 1 or more vulnerable just because the feather dusteer shocks everyone.
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How do I best use Winston ult?
It seems extremely powerful in the right hands but God is it fucking clunky
Your melee hitbox is weird as shit, your player model is doubled and fucks up jumps, and your move speed makes the whole package just weird to handle.
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>>181515949
No, but you Widowmaker DOES have a cannon.
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>>181516225
>none of them have the dps to assassinate her
>Tracer and Genji don't have the burst damage to kill Mercy
Not even trying, Bronzie.
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>>181516376
kys mercy main

enjoy those free wins while it lasts
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>>181516505
>implying Mercy main
Bitch, I kill her with Lucio and Genji.
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>>181516061
My dick.
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>>181516061
how about this then

what would counter mercy's ress

all i can think on is EMP
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>win one game as pharah
>17sr gain
>lose one game as pharah
>35sr lost
really makes (you) think
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>>181516310
I want to lick every single inch of Amélie.
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OH YEAH
OH YEAH
OH YEAH
OH YEAH
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>>181516702
Making it los.
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>>181516753
Even those inches of her hairy greasy dick?
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>>181516936
Yes, I want to make her feel good.
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>not playing so hot as a hero because enemy team have been switching
>die and think "okay better switch"
>"HEROES NEVER DIE... FOR A PRICE"
>solo rez'd right in front of the enemy team as they advance forward
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>>181516936
Girls don't have penises, anon.
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>>181516984
Tfw you share a thread with deranged people that are attracted to a fictionary french trap.
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>>181517018
>doing well as a hero
>die
>"oh fuck you'd better not fucking solo rez me"
>they actually do it
Why does this happen
Just because I'm getting kills doesn't mean you should throw your ult straight into the garbage for my ass
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>>181517051
You seem to be mistaken. Widowmaker isn't a trap, she's a futa. The only trap in this game is T.Racer.
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>>181517045
Indeed, but Amelie isn't entirely a girl.
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>>181517119
So THAT'S what the T stands for.
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>>181517045
Next you'll tell me a girl's fourth hole isn't at the back of the left knee.
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>>181516786
in game

right now

how the fuck would you counter a single ult that mercy has?
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>>181517045
>he doesn't know
Anon.. let me inform you
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>>181517167

Sombra's EMP if it goes through walls. I don't know if it does or not.
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>>181517256
It doesn't, and that sucks
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>3 out of my last 7 games have had leavers
>2 of those 3 games had one leaver on both teams
>Just got out of a game in which I was solo healing 5 DPS players for 2 rounds of KoTH
>General incompetency
>Games are won or lost at the matchmaking stage

Why is mid masters such a shite hole? How can I negate this, I don't have any friends above diamond to queue with?
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>one guy throws but we're still about on equal footing with the enemy
>1:1
>3 people keep telling him to switch
>they get mad
>start throwing as well
>now 4 people are throwing
>we lose
Honestly there's no reason to play comp. The point is to try win but people get mad that someone on their team isn't "playing correctly" and then just go into a fit and throw the game.
I'm sticking to qp and arcade from now on desu.
Thanks for reading my blogpost.
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>>181516702
Having ults up for after she resses
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>he doesn't listen to overwatch asmr while he plays overwatch
What are you waiting for, anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d3VIC9udv8
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>finally made it back to platinum
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>>181517308
just get better, stop crying like a bitch you are and dont blame it on your teammates
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>>181517764

Half the time it actually is your teammates.
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How the fuck do top 500 players form team comps when most of them play the same heroes all the time?
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>>181517686
My fav ASMR artist just released an overwatch video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHPDhU3fwSo&t=188s
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mm finna play me some comp

>hanamura
>anubis
>volskaya

Thanks!
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>>181501581
Unranked since S2 - Arcade MMR says I'm somewhere between Gold and Master?
1. Zen
2. Lucio
3. used to be Rein, probably Orisa now
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>>181517885
they probably just fill
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>>181517686
That's pretty terrible ASMR senpai, I got a boner but the not from her voice
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>>181517907
I unironically enjoy Anubis now.
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>>181517712
Proud of you anon, hope we're on the same team someday
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>oh look it's a flanking reaper
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https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20746094402?page=1

Thoughts?
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>>181517931

How do you see your arcade mmr?
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>>181517885
because they're grouped up with grand masters not necessarily together
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>>181501581
Somewhere around 3600-3700 I dont remember
1. Winston
2. Zenyatta
3. Sombra
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>>181517505
Ehhh, QP isn't any better. Whereas comp is swarming with b*ttholes getting mad that others picked a hero they didn't like, QP is infected with sub-bronze newfags that just started playing the game and deserve to be banned from ever playing comp, people who just got the game and are trying to level out of that shithole, and people who genuinely do intend to try but just aren't skilled enough.

Also holy shit it's been so long since I played OFF.
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What's the point of quickplay
What's the point of making a gamemode where nobody actually tries to play the game / win ?
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>>181518149
Stop digging up old threads.
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>>181518384
for then we may split casual play from serious play

whre else would you learn the game? ai?
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>>181518384

To have a mode that isn't serious.
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Whats' he point of competitive
What's the point of making a gamemode where everybody just tilts?
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>>181517686
I wanna fug Ana cosplayers.
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>>181517996
ok how about this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDjE7aPQcE8
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>>181518445
comp. You learn nothing in QP
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>Mercy POTG
>DIE DIE DIE
>HEROES NEVER DIE
I ain't even man, shit's too funny.
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>>181518467
To get good and rank up outside of silver where you dont see these players again
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>>181518467
They really should add an incentive into winning QP.
Make competitive be played only by those who actually like it and not those who just want to play normal games of OW with normal team comps etc.
Right now QP is a 6 dps instalock shitfest every game and there is no reason for it not to be, so many players that want to avoid that just join comp when they wouldn't touch it otherwise and make the experience worse for everybody.
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>>181518568

Silver is better than Gold.
Most people in Silver have accepted they are Silver and have fun.
On the other hand Gold is a wild shitshow where everybody thinks they should be Plat and get enraged as fuck at the drop of a hat.
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>>181518582

They could make it so comp awards more golden gun points and QP rewards less, but some.
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YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE GOOD
IF HEROES DIED SOMETIMES
IT'D BE REALLY FUCKING GOOD
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>>181518183
also willing to see this

>>181518493
>carry hard on QP
>automatically placed top gold and climbing because now i can do teamwork
>except team is tilting because everyone has a idea of what the team should be instead of just playing the game and 2/3rd of them will trhow if they dont get it their way
>on plat/dia its even worse because theres a 40% chance you will have multiple mercy mains and a about 25% chance of multiple soldier mains
yeah right.
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>>181491305
>remove
none - if i have to winston tho
>buff to former glory
i dunno except for dive being op as generell i like the current balancing of the individual champs (fuck winston tho)

>add a completely new change to
prolly torb
maybe some balancing/buffs maybe even change his whole turret mechanic but most importantly make visuals when i throw a fucking armor pack and make em more visible -> same goes for turret.

I want my team to know what area im covering and where to get my health packs even when they are just arriving at the point from spawn

(turrets visible through walls armor better highlight etc.)
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>>181518775

No.
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>>181518804
>be bad
>lose
woooooow
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>>181519023
Because the allotted Mercy main for your team is you
>>
Remember when Mercy's ult line was 'this might sting'?
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>>181510581
I didn't think it was possible to be this...
>>181510706
...stupid.
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>>181518094
>2017
>""""""""people"""""""" still don't know Reaper is a brawler
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>>181518246
That's perfectly fine. I see QP and arcade both as places to just mess around. Have some random fun with, which I can enjoy.
I'd like to have a mode that's about winning alongside that but the way comp is right now there doesn't seem to exist such a mode.
I mean, I can live with a less than ideal composition or if someone doesn't quite know how to play. Not everyone is going to be a good player and human mistakes are to be expect but with so many people outright leaving or actually actively trying to lose it's just way too frustrating. I'm getting salty myself by now and it's just not fun.
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The roadhog nerf is the signal of the game going to shit because it shows that blizzard cares more about the sub silver players than actually making the game balanced
can't wait for the junkrat and bastion nerfs
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>>181510581
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>>181519202
I can't wait for Overwatch 2.0 where only gold (and Jeff) approved heroes are playable.
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>>181519202
>I cant one shot every 6 seconds anymore this is broken and shit!!!1 fakkin silvers!! t. plat
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>>181500317
>I main Sombra and Widowmaker because I want to actively take fun away from my own team

fixed it
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>>181519356
>no Pharah
>no Hog
>no Winston
>no Zarya
>no Tracer
>no Ana
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>>181519426
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>>181519202
>it's another fucking episode of "[game] is dead because [company] did something I don't like"
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>>181519601
Pharmercy confirmed evil.
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>>181519426
Underrated post
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>>181519601
cringe
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>>181519202
>can't wait for the junkrat and bastion nerfs
Well, once they've bitched Pharah in to irrelevance anything is possible.
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>>181519496
>>no Pharah

Jeff seems extremely proud that they designed a hero that is only counterable by hitscan.
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>>181519779
>he can't aim
>>
>character is on the ground
>everybody can shoot it
>character is in the air
>suddenly it's invincible
do people really think that ?
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>>181519202

>hook = 30 damage
>LMB = 150+ damage
>melee = 30 damage

Still kills 200 hp heroes

You can actually do more dps by RMB before the hook, then adding a second LMB after the first instead of the melee.

All they've done is make Hog less gimmicky.
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>>181512882
It doesn't get better until you hit masters
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>>181519987
>weak character is still as weak but now less gimmicky
>>
i recommend moving behind my fat horse ass
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>>181519779
D.va who is in 100% of the games lately completely counters Pharah.
Soldier, the most picked DPS up until you reach GM completely counters Pharah.
If she has a Mercy on her back a Zennyata, another very common pick lately, discording her makes it really easy to shut her and her girlfriend down.
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>>181519968

>on ground
>front/back doesn't matter
>in air
>all directions matter and can quickly change
>>
Mercy mains, please bully me for playing Reaper
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>>181520115
Thank god pharah doesn't have good horizontale movement
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>>181520046

>weak

Stay cardboard.
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>>181519779
It's like you've never seen Genjis fly and take down Pharahs.
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>>181519987
The fallacy in your post is that LMB almost never does 150+ damage on the vast majority of heroes because of the shot's spread.
Genji survives the combo 100% of the time for example if he is at 200hp when he gets hooked.
Tracer has a 40% chance or so.
Hanzo,Widow,Ana,Soldier,Sobra always survive it.
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>>181520215

Step forwards.
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>>181520194
In what universe do you live where roadhog isn't an useless fat ass that's just a walking ult battery ?
>bait the hook
>get 30% ult charge while he's useless and gets murdered by the team because he has no mobility or defensive abiltiy
>fills the tank slot but can't protect his teamates
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>>181520269
You are either shitposting/baiting or have never played.
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>>181520109
I am really tired of you retards having problems with basic sentences.
There is nothing in my post suggesting a balance problem.
Design (D-E-S-I-G-N) wise, Pharah is complete garbage. You can't justify one hero sending all projectile heroes into the trash can
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>>181520383
If by all projectile heroes you mean junkrat, then you are right
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>>181520383
Don't know what you're talking about. Zenyatta and Genji don't have problems with her
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I want to quit this game for a week, but I feel that is going to be a week of no improvement, should I watch VODs of top 500 during this week or completely forgot the game, even this general for the whole week? I am 2450 right know, season high of 2518, I feel that I never improve cause I always got stressed because of my teammates. I main Winston, D.Va and learning tracer right now.
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Doomfist will be an air hero like Pharah but will be hitscan
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>When the enemy team has an off-meta character and you demolish them and say "Sorry about the X thrower" in global before the next round and they go ballistic in chat and start tilting
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>>181520541
just play tracer and genji h24; that's the key to carry out of plat
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anyone else doing really good by playing suicide lucio and just randomly hitting buttons while jerking off to dspstanky videos?
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>play QP
>someone types "this team comp makes me feel sick, could we not throw?"
>guy bitches so hard everyone swaps to something semi-serious
>guy gets on mic
>it's actually a female Mercy main
>just cries about how our team sucks
>they literally never damage boost anybody ever
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>>181520383
Aw it's retarded.
It's OK sweetie everyone loves you here!
Don't get angry!
No one can aim with Zenyatta, Mei, Genji.
It's definitely not your problem, dear!
Bad design Pharah. Bad!
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>>181519968
the environment is 3d, it's like a dome and the same muscle memory that works for a certain distance while moving the mouse horizontally at ground level wont get you the same result if you tried the flick the same way while aiming in the air. still for anyone who's not trash it only adds a couple of seconds to the time to kill

>>181520574
i'm going to try this

>>181520626
half of the time i spend playing this game is in qp focusing enemy mercy mains, then typing emojis in the chat
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>>181520728
>sweetie
>dear!

Why haven't you gone back to Redit already
There are Mercy main threads for you to upvote.
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>>181520587
Ok, I am not that bad at tracer, I just always feels that maybe someone of my team can do a better job than me playing DPS and never pick her, I have really low self-esteem and I feel I will never climb out, yes call me shitter but this is really serious for me, something about my personality is not allowing me to climb
I need some tips here, how do I stay calm and focused while playing comp ?
btw I have clinical anxiety and depression, just in case
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>Mercy with tranny voice on team
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>>181493693
>tfw I am dating one
>she has 110 hours of Mercy this season alone
>gr8 sex
>>
>>181521000
what does "tranny voice" mean?
>>
At what rank will my teammates notice obvious problems? Last match my team had 4 dps and solo heal, then nobody noticed that enemies were flanking us all the time and we got fucked for minutes. Mccree was flaking while tracer and pharah were escorting payload, why is this happening? Then on defence my team didnt group up to defend but they separated got picked one by one. These are very obvious basic level mistakes expected to happen in silver, why the fuck do 2800sr players make these?
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>>181521083

Male trying to imitate a female voice.
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>>181520542
>doomfist will leap like winston but land with a blast similar to pharah's rocket
welp. i guess i should practice hitting pharah with orisa's gun
>>
I think the worst part about Mercy mains isn't even that they're usually women who are shit at the game, but they are also incredibly rude too. This character should be nerfed into the floor so these people just drop like a stone and quit playing. Tired of having some useless Mercy on every team who won't rez us because even though there's literally nobody on the point except an enemy D.Va outside of the mech and a Lucio hopping around it's only 3man not 5man hurrrrrrr and then going "GG EZ" in the match chat afterwards making my whole team look like assholes.
>>
so is being boosted the only way to rank up in this game or what?
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>>181521084
>then nobody noticed that enemies were flanking us all the time and we got fucked for minutes.
Didn't you notice? Why didn't you stop them?
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>>181501581
3400
1. Genji
2. D.Va
3. Tracer
>>
Pharah is really overpowered in Bronze/Silver, because no one takes hitscan long range heroes like Solider or McCree and no one (including myself) can aim.
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>>181521206
i gained 200sr in solo q today :)
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>>181521237
>can lead headshots with dva gremling gun
>cant shit shit with soldier or bastion
yes i can confirm this
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>>181521219
because I was solo healing 5 people while trying to dodge tracer
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>>181521206
You rank up by not being shit.
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Nevermore or Mariachi?
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>>181521307
So? Unless you were Mercy, you could have handled that Tracer easily.
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>>181521367
mariachi
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>>181520728
You could literally persuade yourself that Mercy is the best DPS in the game with that """""reasoning""""".
Protip: assuming all your opponents are utterly terrible is not an healthy approach.
>>
Me and my fries started playing overwatch few weeks ago we are lvl 28- 34 we literally are 1 hero players Mercy, Bastion, Symetra ad Soldier we win like 70% of the games and most enemy teams bully us for no skill heroes. We are currently arround 2300 rating what should we do? Keep going our way or go for more skilled heroes that would make us lose in the short run?
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>>181521535
>Me and my fries
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>>181521535
what sauce you using though
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I've been trying out my junkrat aimbot whenever there are mercy players on my team

If the system will not unboost them, I will
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>>181521668
So you're finally admitting you're an aimbotter? Took you long enough : ^)
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>>181521751
Yes, and here is my pharah aimbot in action as well
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>>181521573
Haha sorry it meant friends
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>>181521407
>just carry xD lol
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>>181521190
Maybe its because I'm a Mercy main, but I'm not rude, other Mercy mains are generally nice and quiet, GGEZ is 99% of the time done by dps.

Its funny too, I'll point out in a round
>hey guys, something isn't working, what can we do to counter xxx player carrying their team?
and I usually get a response from a dps along the lines of
>FUCK YOU BITCH I HAVE GOLD KILLS GOLD HEALS YOU'RE A WORTHLESS MERCY MAIN WHO DIDN'T REZ ME
>I'M CARRYING THIS POTATO TEAM AND YOU

Its funny, because Masters and GM the only people who tilt beyond reason are the dps. Half the time its a meme joke to hate on Mercy at this level, 25% of the time its reasonably warranted, and the other 25% its people with the wrong perception.

When the enemy winston, genji, and tracer focus Mercy first, it can look like Mercy is always out of place, however sometimes its just being focused hard because they know Mercy is super strong for heals and rez, and Mercy's team is oblivious to protecting healers.
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>>181521847
>lol my team should do everything for me
It's okay to be trash anon. But don't come to us complaining about it.
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Doesn't aimbotting only make sense with hitscan? Or does it also guide the projectiles somehow?
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>>181521604
Enemies tears
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>>181521914
The good projectile aimbots time travel into the future to tell where the enemy will move, that way your missile will hit them
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is tracer a respectable main
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>>181521997
The pro Tracer one tricks are regarded as overwatch gods by the community, so why the hell not.
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>>181521914
there are projectile aimbot. they can calculate the lead by the game memory afaik

tho im not certain if this is still true
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>>181521000
i only ever q up with mercy mains, i know i'm enabling cancer but they're just so convenient if you get a good one.

in higher ranks people are less shitty in general, even the mercy mains

>>181521535
do your thing bruh
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>>181521997
the only respectable one
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>>181521997
If you can get into Top 500 with her.
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daily reminder that this is your average mercy player
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>tfw you will never lick Torbjörn's grimy, smelly, fungi-infected dwarf feet
WHY
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>>181521535
you must learn to flex

try lucio, junkrat, torb and genji
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>>181521914
Tribes ascend turrets had an aimbot.
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>>181504414
Armor counts as healing when?
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>3000 to 3300 in 2 days
>can't enjoy it knowing that Jeff is knocking at the door with a loss streak
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>when you eat every single dragon arrow in the match
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>>181522076
>>181521984
>>181521914
>Talking about aimbotting like it is a good thing
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I didn't believe the memes about Mercy mains but they're true. They're women most of the time and they're usually garbage who only know how to hook onto you with healing beam and LShift whenever someone touches them.

This character should be removed.
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>>181522461
>when you're going to get nerfed off the face of the planet next patch
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>>181502178
>clip
Magazine
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>>181522487
How can switching between beams be mind-boggling it's unreal
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>>181522487
So basically,
>mercy mains play mercy the way she was meant to be played
>remove this character

Sounds like you're just salty cuz she hid and 5-rez'd the team you just wiped with your botvisor.
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>>181522729

I've mained D.Va since the start, so I can deal with it.
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>Eliminations are counted as kills with 66 [fire points] and up, less than that are assists/shared kills
did I just fix the medal system?
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>>181522474
hey man it exists and its not sufficient to take you to GM

it speaks wonders of the game, and how much teamwork can go around these things

t. carebear who plays against hard ai
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>>181522790
>mercy is too easy to play
>mercys rez is too strong
>plz nerf mercy
>mercy just hides and rezzes
>plz nerf her heals
>why can't I climb out of plat?
>mercy gets 200SR for a win, and -1SR for a loss
>i deserve to be in high diamond, please fix matchmaking

It really thinks you make.
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Wew lad.
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>we have only have one healer
>I pick heal
>other healer switches off
>I switch to widow
>he switches back heal
>I switch back to heal
>match starts
>he picks dps
>I pick dps too
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>>181521367
default
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>>181522878

>OOGA BOOGA KILL STEALER!!!
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>>181523030

Are you implying Mercy is not too easy to play and her SR gains/losses aren't broken?
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it's baffling how many smurfs there are in overwatch
people actually pay forty yurobucks to play with shitters
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>>181523147
Her SR gains are clearly broken, but I don't see how she's any easier to play than anyone else in the game.
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>>181501581
Platinum
1. McCree
2. Soldier 76
3. Lucio
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>>181519987
>hook is now 0 damage
>LMB damage increased to 180
There, fixed him.
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>>181523201
but /owg/ says ranking up is all luck so how can there be smurfs in a luck based game lul
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>>181523261
If your aim was to stop him one shotting 200 hp heroes, I think you forgot about his melee.
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>>181523147
I am implying the perception of Mercy is incorrect; mechanically she is easy, but in reality she's a bullet magnet. The SR issue is skewed because everyone is still playing their first 50 games which always net high gains and less SR loss because after your matchmaking you were placed ~200 SR lower than where you should. EVERY hero for about 20 games will get high SR for wins, and low SR for losses. A lot of the GM and top500's will agree this happens for about the first 50 games for just about anyone.

Last season Mercys (and all supports) were getting dismal gains even for excellent games, something like 12SR for a phenomenal win, and -28 for a close loss. Blizz corrected some things however I don't think they over-corrected.

Mercy sees high gains because the SR system compares you to other Mercy's within your SR range. As everyone in this thread will attest to, there are a LOT of shitty Mercys at every rank. So if the average player plays a decent Mercy, it looks like they're getting too much SR. Thats Blizzards SR system working as intended.
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>>181523241

She doesn't have to manage anything, doesn't have to aim, doesn't have to even move independently.
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>>181523408
It was not, my aim was to make him still viable as a barrier breaking damage dealer while also allowing the possibility of 1-shots (if you hit with the full spread) with melee, which leaves you vulnerable if you don't immediately kill them
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>>181491305
Dva
Zarya
Lucio is no longer has voice lines
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>>181522884
It just bothers me that people are so bad at the game they have to ruin the entire point of playing a videogame and have a computer program play it for them. It's like buying a car to have someone else drive you around in it. Where is the fun. I think it comes from a spoiled mentality of wanting all reward with no risk.
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>>181523562
>Heal prioritization
>Damage boost
>#1 kill target for the enemy
>Survival is dependent on team
>x1 rez, or wait for more deaths?
This isn't CS:GO, aim isn't everything in this game. Stop thinking hitscans are the pinnacle of skill.
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>>181523751

You have got to be trolling.
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Why is Genji so fun? I never get tired of him

>>181523630
>Boop!
>LOL LOL LOL
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Post satisfying feels.

>tfw trapping a Genji/Tracer and finishing them off with a grenade to the face
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>always have a Genji / Hanzo / Junkrat shitter in my team
>they are always young boys which usernames are often "CoolBoy2003" or something like that

Why do these characters attract this demographic so strong?
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>have 2-2-2 team comp when match starts
>dva goes for an adventure and dies
>team gets crushed and enemies capture point
>everyone switches to dps, now we got 4 dps
>they start running 1v6 at enemies
>I switch to dps too because why not
>someone asks why am I throwing
really? flanking with a tank and playing 4 dps on defence is not throwing but picking a dps hero is?
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>>181523882
How's plat nowadays?
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>>181523751
You are right.
>>181523882
You are an idiot.
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As a Symm main I have figured out that the best way to play her is with all comms turned off.
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>>181523261
no

how about

>m1 is now 80 damage, M2 is 100
>sniffing glue now regenerates 500 health
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>>181523907
I made the game better and you know it.
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how 2 fix rain hard 4 comp gaems

>charge is now a 3 second delay skill
yes/no/cancer?
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>exit game
>illios loading screen starts up
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>>181491305
>Winston
>Genji
>Sombra- invisibility is instant and silent, gun spread tightened, basic hack by default not only removes shields but disables passives
The reason why I think hack should be so powerful is that by creating such an insane shutdown tool it allows blizzard to create characters with even more ridiculous kits. Tracer could have 200hp and blink recall cool down lowered. Genji and bastion could all be rebuffed and this would be balanced because you could just pick sombra to shut them all down if things get out of hand
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>>181523751

>prioritizing the tank or the people with the huge red cross next to their name is hard
>moving your finger off m1 and onto m2 when your team is healthy is hard
>it's hard to press LShift
>"survival is dependent on team" in a team-based game meanwhile you're the most protected character who is behind everybody
>"do i rez or do i wait for a bigger rez????" is hard decision-making

Wow I stand corrected, Mercy is the only character who needs her team's help, Mercy is the only character who needs to pay attention to her surroundings, Mercy is the only character who needs to make decisions. Of course.
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>>181514958
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>>181491305
>Lucio
>Roadhog
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D85UY1oICxE plays when D.VA uses her ult
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>>181524206

Your idea for Sombra would make a character who, while individually weak, has no counterplay, into a totally busted bitch. And making her hack super strong to make everybody else super strong just means the game will be completely retarded and if you don't have Sombra you lose.
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>>181523920
Junkrat attracts them because he literally requires zero skill
Hanzo attracts them because everybody wants to be cool giant dragon man even though he's trash
Genji attracts them because he's actually one of the strongest heroes in game and every down syndrome child wants to be ''''pro'''' with him even though he's insanely hard to play
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Anyone notice a lot of sandnigger names in Overwatch?

I come across an Ahmed or Muhammed or names ending in UAE (United Arab Emiraes) every single match.
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>>181524232
>prioritizing the tank or the people with the huge red cross next to their name is hard
Again, target prioritization. That means theres 4-5 people with a huge cross next to their name. Do you even speak english?
>moving your finger off m1 and onto m2 when your team is healthy is hard
Only damage boosting when your team is at full health isn't the proper way to push or defend.
>it's hard to press LShift
Are you thinking of Pharah? Have you ever played Mercy? lol
>"survival is dependent on team" in a team-based game meanwhile you're the most protected character who is behind everybody
Most teams do not watch out for Mercy's well-being. And if the enemy team has a flanker (tracer, mccree, genji, sombra, winston, widow, or any combination) Mercy is again the #1 target where they will run past your team, kill the mercy, then kill the team because heals are dead.
>"do i rez or do i wait for a bigger rez????" is hard decision-making
Go ahead, answer the question. I'll wait.
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>>181524232
Nobody said she is the ONLY one but people need to stop acting like there is nothing to manage with her. It is difficult playing a hero you KNOW the enemy team is focusing the shit out of. She isn't an exceptionally hard hero but she can't just be picked up by an ape and carry the team to victory. I have seen shitty god-awful Mercys who hold their res the entire game and die a hundred thousand times and great Mercys who help us win the game. This would tell me there is at least some sort of ladder of skill to climb, even if just game sense and decision making.
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>>181524370
like mercy

or genji

or tracer
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>>181524464
And ksa (kingdom of saudi-arabia). I keep getting this one guy called Abu ´Abdullah in my games and he always plays reaper, he always flanks, kills someone and then dies. Repeats this in every game. EU servers
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>>181524370
I mean...they could add other characters. If bastion was buffed, or torbjorn, you'd have more possible counters to other newly buffed heroes. So no, it wouldn't be pick sombra or lose. You're stuck in this mindset that balance requires nerfs. But really all you have to do is buff everyone to ludicrous levels because if every character is op then no one is. And then you'll finally be as good as DotA
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>eating ults with Dvas defence matrix
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>>181524112

>back out of search for game screen

>you have been suspended for leaving and your SR will be adjusted for a loss
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>>181524464
I'm not on an EU server, but apparently the biggest complain is there aren't any servers close to UAE or Brazil. So because of that they often jump into servers with shit ping, don't speak a common language, and as a result look like complete retards.

Apparently EU servers are so bad, a lot of french and english players are playing on NA servers for better quality games.
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>>181524034
I spam Boop! on lucio and LOL on dva when I get an environmental kill or defense matrix an ult

sorry

>>181524206
i prefer buffs to nerfs too, but when the characters get so overpowered to the point where the first one to get their ability off wins it also ruins the game in a new way.

>>181524319
+lewd

although i never heard of anyone wanting to remove lucio, wall riding is fun as fuck
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>>181524430
I think that Junkrat attracts such a young cancer demographic because he has that "people like me cuz I am CRAZY" thing going for him that makes autists love The Joker so much.
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>>181524370
>Sombra has no counter play
It's called don't bunch up and death ball.
It's also the counter to zarya.
Also her hack is countered by left clicking her. Sometimes you will lose to EMP. There's nothing wrong with that.
As for the others, you could buff genji to former godlike levels and then just buff mei and have her freeze him
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>>181524614
>You're stuck in this mindset that balance requires nerfs. But really all you have to do is buff everyone to ludicrous levels because if every character is op then no one is.

That's a fucking stupid idea. In reality if everyone is broken, some characters are super broken and the game is retarded. You could be lucky and end up with Guilty Gear but you could also end up with Hokuto no Ken. The game will feel less skillful and more random because the game already has stupid tools all over it and then it would get even stupider, you would have a life expectancy of 10 seconds from spawn and people who already cry over Pharah being able to fly would utterly lose their shit because now Sombra has laser aim and instant vanishing and a superhack and Pharah is full Tribes and etc. etc. etc.

It's a bad idea. You don't know shit about what I think either. I'm not in favor of "NERF EVERYTHING" but "BUFF EVERYTHING SUPER HARD" is equally stupid. Plus Blizzard is already shit at balancing with nerfs, what makes you think they'll be good at balancing with buffs?
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>>181523030
I want to cuddle up with Symmetra at night and kiss her on her forehead until she falls asleep
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So I tried to test this broken Mercy SR meme.
>win
>+~20-25 SR
>lose (actual defeat)
>-~10 SR
>lose (ebin troles/leavers/throwers/etc with no time to get decent stats)
>-~20 SR
>57% winrate
That's pretty much the same I get with other heroes if I don't switch mid-game (punishing for switching is retarded but it got nothing to do with Mercy).
What am I doing wrong? Do I need to kiss a dildo on mic for extra 50 SR per match or something?
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>cut down on masturbation
>immediately fall 500 SR
>worst player in every game
>have to play Mercy just to stop falling
>start masturbating multiple times a day again
>go on immediate win streak
>situational awareness and decision making way better
>turning around expected losses without trouble
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>>181524946

You need to farm hueg 5man epik POTG rez for max gain.
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>>181521367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5fLGWrHouk
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>never played Roadhog before the nerf
>start playing him because I got that one Maoi skin
>mfw
If he feels this good now I can't imagine how broken he must have felt before the nerf.
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>>181521367
Mariachi all day every day.
If having a sweet fucking guitar on your back wasn't enough, having an actual human skull face should be convincing. Seriously what the hell is that default mask? A bird? A bison?
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>>181525207
Wtf you know how to aim and you play Hog?
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>>181525207

The fire rate was painfully slow before.

Many of the smaller heroes could not be killed by hook/lmb/melee combo anyway, and firing another shot took so long they'd get away.

Hog is better now unless you're a complete brainlet.
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>>181525207

I never played Roadhog until a month before the nerf, and he was psychotically powerful. Literally instant death on half the cast if he hooked them. He could hook and oneshot Bastion with a crit. It was fucking stupid. That's the real reason all the Hog players are crying.
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>>181523751
Aim is easily the biggest skill in this game. It's the only real barrier that prevents people from playing certain characters. A DPS main can play a competent Mercy with a bit of practice and knowledge but a Mercy/support main won't be doing shit as hitscan if they haven't spent time developing their aim. They might know how to play and what to do but they will lack the physical skill to land the shots.

Game sense, decision making, positioning, ect are things that apply to every character so saying Mercy is hard to play because it requires game sense is wrong. Game sense is also much easier to develop because it can be learned from watching tutorials, replays, or just playing the game whereas aim requires actual practice and physical finesse in terms of hand eye coordination, muscle memory, and reflexes.
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>>181525320
Landing the right clicks is very satisfying.
I played a lot of Blasters in Splatoon so it was easy to adjust once someone told me the ball explodes after a certain distance.
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>>181525357
B-B-BUT ALL THE PROS AND STREAMERS THAT I WATCH SAY HE IS UNUSABLE EVEN THOUGH NOTHING THEY SAY APPLIES TO THE GENERAL POPULATION OF OVERWATCH AND I JUST REGURGITATE WHAT THEY SAY TO SOUND SMART
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>>181524884
Or you could end up like dota where all but like 3 heroes are viable and picked in competitive play because everyone is super overpowered.
Which is a lot better than what we have now where half the cast is not viable
>>181524762
>the first one to get their abilities off wins
this literally never happens because no matter how strong you make a character an ability can be wasted, this is an imaginary fear you have
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>>181525689
my favorite part is most of the roadhog mains are dropping out of gm now because their crutch hero was finally balanced
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>3 support mains in my team
>LEARN TO PLAY ANOTHER CLASS YOU BUTT FUCKING HOMOSEXUALS
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>>181525689
Too busy watching what the Koreans do and fusing their tricks with my own to listen to the pros and streamers anyway.
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>>181525689

He is pretty garbage now but that doesn't mean the nerf wasnt justified. He just needs help in other more unique areas now that isnt "le tricky hook combo".

Like when D.va got nerf-buffed
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>3 dps mains in my team
>LEARN TO PLAY ANOTHER CLASS YOU BUTT FUCKING HOMOSEXUALS
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>>181526020

Too bad Roadhog is all about the hook.
He is just a badly designed character, like Mercy. Unless they just go in and rework him hard he is going to be shit or bullshit, never in between. The current state of Hog is probably as good as it gets.
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>>181526302
Blizzard design in a nutshell desu
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>54 elims (gold)
>13k damage as Winston
d-did I carry?
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>>181523882
>plat calling others plat

lul

ever played in master or GM? "support mains" are very common and they can't play shit other than support. it's a fucking slaughter when you get multiple support mains on your team and the other team has multiple dps/tank mains because a mediocre dps is a much bigger burden on the team than a mediocre support
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>>181526386
Elims doesn't mean shit on Winston because it's easy as shit to do 2 damage to the entire team and then get elims when they all die
13k damage is pretty good but I have no idea what kind of match it was

So maybe
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>>181526393
>>181523950
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dude i'm totally fragging out as Zen right now

why is Zen so good?
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>>181519124
>>181519213
>different top 500 in each region
>and on each platform
It's a legit question tbqh
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>>181526386
no

your team was trhowing
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>>181526302

They'll redesign him in other ways to make him useful and gimmicky

>Take a breather reduces damage taken for a duration
>M1 and M2 now have a small knockback effect
>Taking damage generates ult charge

etc. etc.
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What if they kept Hog's gun damage and rate of fire, but made it so his hook added a damage multiplier so he could still oneshot hooked opponents, but then his hook CD was increased to 10 or 12 seconds?
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>>181521519

>watching top 500 symmettra one trick on Twitch yesterday

>he had to get up and take a piss and got banned for afk

>switched to QP to kill time

>picks Mercy because Symm was taken

>chat says go all pistol Mercy

>He goes all pistol. No heals only rez

>Completely destroys enemy team and wins match.
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>>181526905
he sounds like a massive twat
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>>181525314
Barn owl
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>>181526729
how's this
>M1 reverted to it's original form
>M2 no longer deals damage, but knocks the target back
>head hitbox increased slightly
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>>181491305
>pharah
>mccree
>junkrat (make all explosives more strong agaisnt barriers)
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>>181520604
Yes. When I play Lucio on koth I just get lost in the chaos, so I just hold down my fire and spam it, keep hitting amp it up the milisecond its off CD, switch between heals and speedboost every 5 seconds, watch for boop potential and wall ride like crazy.

I am probably a shit Lucio but we usually win soooo
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>>181525314
>Reaper's default mask is anything but perfect
shit taste anon, shit tsate
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>>181527274

That punishes Roadhogs who actually have skill to aim M2 and rewards retarded hook faggots. Why would you want Hog to be able to knock back, anyway? If you want to knock people back, Pharah knocks back while doing damage and is a harder to hit target. Roadhog also wants people to be somewhat near so he can actually hurt them. Your "buffs" are dumb as fuck.
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The ride never ends.
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>>181527360
>not just blasting Initial D OST at full volume while alternating between speed and healing while wall riding and killing things
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>>181526581

Because he can do everything to a reasonable extent.
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>>181527445

>Why would you want hog to knock people back he wants them to be somewhat near so he can actually hurt them

Blizzard doesnt want Roadhog to be FatReaper for obvious reason
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>>181527274
>>head hitbox increased slightly

Nigga you better be joking.
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>>181527697
44% winrate?
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>>181527697
Worst heals in the game
Decent damage
No mobility

I think his saving grace is the higher than expected damage output, utility from discord orb, and his 150 armor, effectively giving him 250hp

I'm still conflicted on his ult, sometimes it'll do 1500 heals, sometimes it doesn't start fast enough which allows team mates to die.
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>>181528101

9 games is not a representative sample.

One game makes a 12% difference.
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>be Zen
>"switch to Mercy"
>"no, but I'd be happy to switch to any other role"
>"FUCKING TOXIC ONE-TRICK SHITTER YOU THINK YOUR DICK IS TOO BIG TO PLAY MERCY"
I am right and he is bunga
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>>181528117

>Worst heals in the game

Being able to heal over an extremely long range out of line of sight while providing lots of damage is extremely strong

>Decent damage

150 dps on his own
And +30% to his entire team. Thats fucking strong.

>150 armour

He has shields, not armour.

>sometimes it'll do 1500 heals, sometimes it doesn't start fast enough which allows team mates to die

It starts instantly, you just have to have good positioning to avoid getting picked off before a teamfight starts
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>>181528490
im certain its best to consider his healing as a 100hp pack you just threw at your ally

it works so well like that
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>>181490950
Is she talking about dive comp?
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>It's a Sombra main that doesn't switch no matter how awful and ineffective they are
OverWatch needs to institute banned heroes for Comp. Fucking tired of her and Hanzo mains.
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It's interesting how different your experience will be, given the time

>Play comp during the morning/afternoon
>paired with squeakers and faggots who bitch the entire time

Play comp in the evening
>get cooperative teammates

>Play comp super late at night
>always paired up with spics and faggots who give up before the game starts

I've played a lot of other comp games, but I've never seen anything like this before. Of course, it's not always true, but there's a pattern going on.
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Ever since I stopped flicking and learned how to track my McCree performance has increased dramatically. Now he isn't wild card hero like Widow for me, but solid and reliable pick just like 76. Now seeing people trying to flick makes me cringe. What's the science behind flicking anyway?
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>>181528630

Essentially yes. It works great on flankers too in the winston meta, because you can throw it on genji/winston/dva and the enemy can know just by vitrue of the healing orb above them, theres no point in focusing them because their natural survivability + the 30hp/s will make them nigh-on invincible.

This is something mercy cant do, as people will just ignore the heal target and kill mercy instead
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>>181528678
She lost less SR than you fukboi
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>>181528709
I've noticed the exact same, in EU. Early evenings has chill eastern yuropoors who actually play to win while anything past 9-10pm has nothing but russians screaming CYKA BLYAT through their mics and 10 year old german kids who are usually chill but terrible at the game.
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>>181528741
You tell me, you apparently used to be a flicking faggot until recently according to your post. unless you're just a fucking faggot.
There's not much difference.
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>>181528741

Subconcious brain is faster and can become more consistent that the concious brain.

Also it exploits the hitboxes.
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>>181493802
>Bob
>Bob always wanted to be a hero
>Bob one day got a baseball bat and hammered some nails into it
>Bob is really good with his baseball bat
>Bob thinks today is going to be a good day
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>>181525356
>he shoots faster so he's better!

Want me to tell you how I know you're a shitter?
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>>181528741
some people are twitch shooters, some people are point and click
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>escorting payload at last meters with someone else too
>we both low health
>overtime
>soldier ults behind us
>we die
>"oh well fuck.. that was a good game, so close to win"
>taking off my headphones
>Victory
>mfw
actually thought I lost the game when we died at the payload and it ended
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>>181528678
>tfw level 24
>over half my qp games are composed of a Hanzo, Genji and Widowmaker

Does it get any better in comp? This shit drives me nuts.
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>>181528490
Its a long distance heal, however the heals per second is the lowest in the game. It'll slowly tick up characters taking little damage like tracer or genji. But by no means will it save them if they are targeted well. His strength is discord orb, his heals are truthfully minimal. If I recall correctly, standing on the moving payload heals more than zenny.

I just looked it up, shields provide no additional mitigation. Yeah he squishy. I don't think any faster self-healing or self orbing is necessary though.

It most certainly doesn't start instantly, theres a short period of transition which is more than simple latency. Think of it similar to pre-buff mcree's high noon. When you clicked to fire, there was a short delay between actual firing. A target can still be killed while standing next to Zen if focused correctly.
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>>181529270
Comp is a crapshoot, roll of the dice. You get lucky and have good teammates or you don't and you're rolling with 5DPS. This applies from bronze to Diamond but less and less with each higher tier, at least in my personal experience.
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My feeder teammates gg the general
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>>181517248
There are no chicks with dicks, only dudes with tits.
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>>181501581
Silver

1. Lucio
2. Orisa
3. Torbjorn

no bully pls
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>>181529470
So at the lower levels of comp you basically have to carry shitters to improve rank?
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>>181528709
eastern yurop here
>weekends and weekdays past 2 PM
literally impossible
>4 AM to 8 AM
radio silence, every match is a coin flip due to disconnects
>8 AM to 12 PM
you can climb, people try but not too hard

I actually abandoned EU completely, burgers are way nicer / more cooperative
despite the lag I'm already up 200 SR in two days
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>>181528741
>What's the science behind flicking anyway?

When you make 'aiming' and 'shooting' into separate actions mentally, it's easy to mistime them, different neurons with different pathways to your hand are responsible for the two different things.

When you make 'aiming' and 'shooting' into the same instantaneous action, your timing will almost never be off, though your aim can still be

This has no relation to anything also, but I've found that whenever you can predict an enemy's movement it's almost impossible to miss a flick. Before you flick try taking a moment to analyze how they are moving and try to get into their head to see what they'll do next.
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>>181529470
You went from bronze to diamond and think it's luck? Bullshit. I'm diamond and I'm confident I can carry in bronze, silver, and gold even with 5 dps.
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Guys I'm worried. I've had a winning streak but now my wins out number my loses, so now I'm going to get matched up with children, grills, and retards to force me into 50%!
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>>181529805
naturally
now go buy boxes
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>>181529805
Performances removed forced 50.
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>>181529976
>this is what fucking mercy mains believe
hang yourself at the earliest opportunity
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>>181529772
>I'm confident I can carry in bronze, silver, and gold even with 5 dps.

>able to carry 5 retards

the weight is too much, your back will give out.
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>>181529591
Yes, which is where the "dude just play 76 lmao" meme comes from. Simplest DPS mechanically and if you can secure the necessary kills (which you should be able to on bronze/silver shitters) you'll be out of there in no time.

>>181529772
I've only climbed from gold to high Diamond, I play in bronze/silver on my second account that i use to play with shitter friends.
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My Zen healing is better than my Mercy healing.
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>>181510581
>i have to share oxygen with people like this
Murder isn't murder if it's a dead retard, right?
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>>181530215
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>>181506297
>dabuzposting in overwatch general
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>>181530054
Post your rank at the earliest opportunity
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>>181530075
I've done it on my smurf. It happens occasionally. Sometimes I feel like fucking around and instant lock hanzo or widow. My team thinks I'm throwing and they pick whatever they want and we end up with no tanks or healers. It doesn't matter because I'm killing so much that we still win.
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>>181528962
but anon, roadhog is already in the game
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>>181529270

In Comp just dont about teammates hero picks or you will go crazy.

Think about your team as a random element in an equation where YOU are the constant. Your long term sanity will be much better that way. Trust me. If you are good you will climb regardless.
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>>181530075

I used to boost for myboosting (probably the #1 boosting site for ogrewatch) and have boosted literally hundreds of people from as low as bronze all the way to the top 100, it's an illusion that you can be held back by teams. Superior skill always overcomes.
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>>181530470
>YOU are the constant

There is only so much one man can do.
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>>181530470

>dont think about
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>>181529591
if you are good you will rank up. you wont carry every game but you will carry enough to win more than you lose and rank up. if you lose because of "bad teams" and you have like a 50% win rate then you are where you belong
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>>181530470
>Think about your team as a random element in an equation where YOU are the constant.
EXCEPT THIS DOESN'T MEAN SHIT WHEN PEOPLE THROW WITH SOMBRA, HANZO, JUNKRAT, WIDOW OR TORB.

IT'S A TEAM GAME AND IT'S DEPENDENT ON YOUR TEAM FUNCTIONING AS ONE. FUCK OFF WITH THIS GARBAGE ASS "YOU'RE THE ONLY CONSTANT" MEME.
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>>181530542
You only need to play well on the games you dont get retards in

Try to get better yourself, check the profiles of your teammates before the match starts, see whos gonna carry on both teams, check average SRs of both teams at the beggining of the match and that
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>>181530531
of course you have anon.
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>>181530542

Thats what I mean. Some matches are going to be a loss and there is nothing you can do about it. But over time it should all average out because the constant in the equation is you and your superior skills. Unless you suck or are mereley average. Then the math will acreage out to standing still or falling.
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>Get a Sombra thrower in 1 match
>Next match right after is a Torb thrower
I am the only constant.
>>
so /owg/

would roadhog be fixed if they gave him his beta hook that worked around corners, even with the new gun?
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>>181531060
indeed you and your bad luck are the only constant
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>>181531060
They really should tweak the reporting system a little better. If for example 6 players report 1 person, they should get a 15 minute temp ban. 6 players requires at least 1+ enemy team to agree theres a thrower to keep it non-biased and reduce abuse of reporting.

Then, if they get multiple temp bans, they just get banned for the season. Kinda sucks when trolls and throwers declare "go ahead and report me, it does nothing". I'm borderline convinced it actually does nothing unless they're actually trying to get banned like Dafran.
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>>181530956
>Some matches are going to be a loss and there is nothing you can do about it. But over time it should all average out because the constant in the equation is you and your superior skills. Unless you suck or are mereley average.

Yeah, I shouldn't lose some matches no matter what because my teammates are so shit they are below me, an average player.
>>
this thread was way better when I didnt know you guys were gold and plat
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>>181531069
But anon they did fix Roadhog, you're just a faggot who slurps pros/streamers and doesn't realize any team comp (within reason) is viable to the general populace of Overwatch.

t. just won KOTH on Lijiang down 0-2 and only started winning after our Winston swapped to Hog. Also won 2 other matches with a Hog as DPS. This was in mid diamond.
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>>181531241

>report entire enemy team every game

Outskilled.
>>
>when your teammates are literally unable to kill a single member of the enemy team for 6 straight minutes
>"you are the only constant on your team hurrrrr get better durrrrrrr"
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>>181531351

Someone posted they were below 1000 SR yesterday.
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>>181530721
If you need your team to help you win then it means you are where you belong. You are in an evenly matched game where people bad can get you a loss and you are not good enough to make up for people on your team not playing well. You are part of the average.
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>>181530054
I don't understand where that accusation comes from.
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>>181530938
I did yo

fun fact, some pros and streamers also boost, or at least did while I was doing it
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>>181531351
>most of the thread is where most of the playerbase is

HOLY SHIT!!!!
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>>181531351
>gold and plat

but that makes sense dummy since that's the average majority of players.

what? did you think the elite grandmaster 500's all congregate to 4chin to shitpost and have waifuwars?
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>>181530721

I am not talking about one single game. I am talking about ALL the games you play.

Some games you are gonna get throwers or multiple shitters and you are simply going to have to take it up the ass.

But if you are constantly getting fucked up the ass its you.
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>4 consecutive comp games of being paired with spics who throw the game
>Went down to gold rank because of them

The wall cannot come soon enough. I fear to know what other servers have to face
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>>181531501
One of these days I will become triggered enough to filter out all gameplay discussion and start waifuposting or whatever else
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>>181531706
damn
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>>181531736
>>181531787
His point is the golds and plats haven't mastered the basic mechanics of the game yet. Balancing the game around the average idiot isn't the best way to make a game.

Its like requiring safety labels for the average idiot; you end up telling people not to use a toaster while in the bathtub or that bleach is poisenous. We scoff at these warning labels but its because the average idiot isn't competent enough to avoid eating the dessicant packet or to avoid roadhog's hook.
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>>181531706

>that one who wanted boosting into gold
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>>181531706
>$17 for 40 SR

Hmmm wat?
>>
>>181531573
What's evenly matched about having to go 5v6 because some retarded diamond wants to throw and make le ebin youtube montage about carrying from bronze? What's evenly matched about some waifufag not getting his main and leaving?

Sorry we can't all 1v6 entire teams and single-handedly take the point or carry the payload.
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>>181531706
>getting paid to boost
yeesh wtf. also is the SR so fucked that once you're boosted it tries to keep you there? I'd think, getting boosted wouldn't matter, you'd just fall eventually, unless they're mercy mains, or trying to get boosted to where their gud friends can carry them.
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>>181532027

Those warnings are there to legally protect against the lowest percentiles, not the average.

>>181532089

The opposite.

You'll fall down faster because the hidden MMR won't adjust from a few wins.

It's for retards who think they're in ELO hell and just need to escape to do well.
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>>181532089
Boosting prior to Season 4 was much more lucrative because of win streaks (if you won ten matches in a row you would get 150sr per win) and because SR decay was much slower (you needed one game per week instead of seven)

It's the reason why I quit
>>
what is junkrat's treasure
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>tfw soldier is impossible to carry with anymore in this meta unless your other DPS and at least one tank is a diving hero like tracer/Winston
>tfw there is always a fucking monkey or green matrix in your face when they realize you're the only good DPS on your team

Still have a 60% wr on him but its just so much fucking harder than playing reaper, tracer or pharah.
>>
>>181532291

Mako Rutledge.
>>
>>181532291
Friendship.
>>
>>181532291
a set of lucky charms

or who knows. a atomic bomb?

>>181532365
>he ate the treasure
this makes so much sense
>>
>>181532291
Theres a distinct lack of interaction between garbagemouse and Sombra, perhaps he found out Sombra's real name and identity?

He was present when infiltrating several key things like the omnium in Australia, Sombra was found out by the iris and exposed on a terminal screen. He just happened to be at the right place at the right time and found out info.
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>>181532086

You need to make sure you win most or all of the matches where those things don't happen. Its that simple.
>>
>He was present when infiltrating several key things like the omnium in Australia, Sombra was found out by the iris and exposed on a terminal screen.

Where did you find this?
>>
>>181532086
Let's say you're in a game full of diamonds. One player on your team is having a bad game and is playing at plat level.

If you are diamond level and you lost the game then it means that the game was evenly matched at first but you lost because someone on your team wasn't playing at their level and made it uneven, thus you are where you belong.

If you are diamond but "deserve to be master" then it would be 1 master, 1 plat, 4 diamonds vs 6 diamonds on the enemy team. Even if your teammate was not playing on par, your master level skill should have still made the game even and winnable. If you manage to win then you are actually above average and deserve to be master. If you couldn't win then you only performed at an average level meaning you are not actually above average.
>>
Think of a new gameplay mechanic to destroy Overwatch.
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>>181532823
He's making up fanfic based on their lack of interaction, anon.
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>>181532973
Some hero that can select an enemy a certain distance away and then teleport them to him and he instantly kills them.
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>>181532973
Ice/Freezing
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>>181532823
>>181532984
Close enough

He came to notoriety when he discovered an extremely valuable secret in the bones of the omnium. Though few knew the nature of what he found, he was nonetheless pursued by bounty hunters, gangs, and opportunists wherever he went, until he made a deal with the Junker enforcer Roadhog, who grudgingly agreed to be his personal bodyguard in exchange for a fifty-fifty share of the spoils
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>>181533328
>http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Junkrat

You guys haven't read all of the lore for each hero and explored the lore for every other organization in the game?
>>
>>181532973
reverse tracer

E reverts everyone to the past
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>>181532086

Also you need to recognize the matches where your loss was was simply because the other team was better.

Those are the ones that you need to focus on and figure out why you lost. And work to keep those kinds of matches at an absolute minimum. Those are the matches that you have the most control over changing the outcome.

Throwers and trolls you have no control over so just take it like a man and move on. The close losses should have been won by you but you didnt do it.
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>>181533438
>Overwatch """lore"""
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>>181533192
Isnt that Zeds ultimate already
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>>181533540
She looks like a fuckin dwarf as that statue!

My fear is Blizz releases an official Mercy statue/figurine, and it'll be something retarded like $250. Itd be interesting to see how many $450 Dva statues they're selling.
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>>181532973

Characters get new abilities based on their skin.

>Yeti Hunter Mei now has a Junkrat trap
>Yeti Winston's electricity now inflicts slow
>Vampire Widow skins now give lifesteal proportional to damage done
>Defense Matrix Bastion now has Defense Matrix
>B.Va can summon clouds of bees to attack people like the dogs in Call of Duty
>Raindancer/Thunderbird Pharah can do her dance emote to summon a thunderstorm above her with the AoE of Mei's Blizzard that randomly shoots lightning strikes downwards and makes the ground slippery
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>>181532973

Indirect fire hero who gets a bird's-eye view with which to aim.

Hero who only has a small head hitbox and the rest of their model just blocks damage.

Hero who can oneshot everything at range but they have a long reload so it is balanced.

Hero that is invisible by default and has to be spotted by RNG checks based on their movement speed and whether or not they have fired.

Hero who can fly around very fast and drop bombs which can oneshot everything.
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>>181529340

> If I recall correctly, standing on the moving payload heals more than zenny.

How much do you think zen and the payload heal for

Because I can tell you that you're wrong buddy
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>>181534254
top lel
>>
>mercy literally hasn't changed
>literally all anyone talks about

wah wah mercy isn't playing the way I want her to wah wah
>>
>>181532973

New hero's ultimate is Lucio's beta ultimate Aka ZA WARUDO

Can deal damage during its effect but all damage is delayed until after effect ends

Enemies frozen wont see the ZA WARUDO hero moving until the effect ends in which they do everything they just did but really fucking fast
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>blizzard nerfs winston, mercy, dive heros
>other heroes become good, nerf them
>other heroes become good, nerf them
>every hero is nerfed until no one does any damage
>>
Nu
>>181535139
>>181535139
>>181535139
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>tfw you are not Michael Chu
>>
who the hell are the ungabungas you guys get paired up with? i'm a silver shitter and even my teammates in comp will pretty much always switch when asked.
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>>181535538

Gold is worse than silver and plat.
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>>181493643
this

I only play competitive without anything enabled.

Sure I miss the few times where someone says something useful....

But...

I don't have to hear all those retards.
There are three kinds of retards:
-The one who says nothing important
-The one who doesn't cooperate even if he understands you
-The one who is just retarded and only shit talks

I'm much better just disabling everything and just play. I also only play heroes who don't need chat.

If you play any tank your life depends on your team mates. Without communication you are most likely fucked.


For every good Widow, Hanzo, or Mercy main: Disable your chat instantly. You will not have fun in competitive with an enabled chat.
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