/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

Can I consider myself a TRUE Shin Megami Tensei if I never beated Nocturne on Hard Mode or never defetead Demi Fiend in Digital Devil Saga 1?

>Fem Demifiend
We should have stayed dead.

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ASUPEKUTO RAIDOU

geez what's taking so long to link this back at the last thread

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So after you kill Merkabah the plan is that everyone from Mikado move to Tokyo.... why?

It's completely retarded. Why doesnt everyone move to Mikado instead? Mikado has lush green plains, mountains, lakes, forests and pristine architecture and agriculture and cattle. Not to mention NO demons outside of Naraku and Kiccigiorgi Forest (even in the endgame the citizens are only just discovering demons exist). On the other hand Tokyo is a rotting city with destroyed buildings, several unlivable poisoned areas, no reliable source of food and water besides scavenging, pollution, and of course fucking demons everywhere. Even if Masakado can fix Tokyo to an extent it's just a no brainer that Mikado is a better place to live in once the Lawfags running it are dead.

It's stupid, this game is stupid. Seriously I was 'mirin the gorgeous backgrounds and architecture of Mikado so hard before the ending, such a shame it literally gets all rekt for stinky Tokyo.

>>181431898
ur joking right

Is this how world of Chaos looks like?
https://youtu.be/8y-dHKkp2zU

>>181429713
I never did both either so i say yes.

Besides normal is the intended difficulty so thats enough for SMT cred points.

>>181429713
What game have you played?

>>181429713
Nocturne on hard mode is just tedious and unfun and most haven't bothered with the rng Demifiend boss, whatever.
>>181429738
It's a good genderbend for what it is (and the two other demons got the same treatment.).
They gave her actual breast support for one.

>>181431956
Muh Goddess.

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What do you want to see both gameplay wise and story wise in SMT V?

>>181437995
Nocturne style fusion autism
An ending that actually solves some of those Great Will-related problems without making a black hole

>>181437995
Heroine back and make her have combo magic with the protag.
I want something more in the feel of Megami Tensei 2.

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>nearly died again

For fuck sake lads, keep it together.

>>181437995
Gameplay
>everything from SMT4A including smirks
>maybe some new damage types like nuclear or weapon types
>heroine
>open world or somehow close to that
Story
>Setting like Tokyo Millennium would be good, but judging from trailer it probably be another fucked up Tokyo
>designs like in old SMT
>enemy characters like Krishna
>something something law vs chaos vs neutral

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>>181437995
>A soundtrack that can compete with IV's
>Apocalypse affinities and fusion
>Game is like the start of SMT1 and things get fucked up later.
>Human party members and heroines.
>And pic related

>>181437995
Sacrificial fusion and controllable partners if they are kept

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>smtg told me 4A had good voice acting
>hear the Black Market shopkeeper's voice

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>>181439318
We lied. Only Dagda and Krishna are any good

>>181439817
>Odin
>Gaston
>Shesha-Flynn
>Fagdramelech

Also Inanna's "Fill me with your blood"

>>181439973
Come to your mother

Man that Maria clip from DSJ has me hype.

I wonder where does she fit in the hierarchy of Mothers of the schwarzwelt.

Also wonder if Demiurge will remain the ultimate boss, also if they will reveal from who the voice is after you defeat Demiurge.

>>181439973
Gaston's voice is nothing special though. And SheshaFlynn is just modified Flynn who sounds a bit gayer.

is there any significant QoL change from vs the Soulless Army to vs King Abaddon?

>>181442841
King Abbadon has:
>Better demon roster, like much much better.
>Now your demons drain your mag to use skills, making filling mag by exploiting weakness much more important.
>No longer random encounters in towns.
>Raidou runs faster.
>Now you negotiate with demons, demons also helps you negotiated if they have certain skills-
>Much more side game content.

SA has a better story but KA has better characters like the Tsukigatas siblings.

>>181444958
now I really need to push myself to finish the first game, thanks for the info anon google was being a bitch about it

>>181444958
>adding negotiations to an action rpg
>good

>>181445284
Honestly tube cramming was a little lame plus i like getting materials from hte demons.

>>181445136
Oh yeah forgot that the whole bullet stuff is gone, your gun just stun enemies since demons now inbue your gun or sword with elemental properties.

>>181445284
Negotiations are way better than the tube shit.

>>181437995
Three things:

CRAFTING
OPEN WORLD
SURVIVAL ELEMENTS

And SMT will be saved.

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Choose your boy.

>>181446961
>OPEN WORLD

I'm ok with this

>>181447002
Aleph looks best.

>>181447002
>>181447237 this, but I will always love Hero most

>>181446961
>SMT will never have those cancerous elements
Feels good, man.

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>>181447002
Better list.

>>181437995
Gameplay wise I think demons should also have affinities with certain other demons. For example if you have Cu Chulainn and Scathach in your party they should get combo moves or a boost in stats. Likewise with negotiation if a demon in your party like Thor sees an enemy Loki or Odin then there should be some unique dialogue between them.

For story I just want an intro like SMT I

>>181448324
Aleph and Flynn have the best aesthetics

>>181448324
>is now magically a v thread

Somebody has the pic from Apoc while fighting Adramelech "your face twists into a smile"?

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Has anyone ever drawn him with his hood up? It reminds me of Kikuri-Hime kinda.

>>181448324
Why are the first three trying to be such fucking show offs with their COMPs?

>>181444958
Raidou 2 negotiation system a best desu.

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It is really difficult for me to enjoy DDS1 with this frame rate

>>181437995
I wanna kill the Axiom.

>>181439817
Odin is literally COMPLEX MOTIVES MINDHACC

>>181451446
Are you emulating? I played most of that game at like 15fps on an ancient toaster.

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what do you think of this woke negro?

>>181453553
I was afraid that he will rape me if I would go any other route

>>181438254
this

more 80's post-apocalypse with punk rockers

>>181448324
where's nakajima and the MT2 protag (who has a fucking robot arm by the way)

Man smt iv gets fun around level 34, having minotaur, frost ace, and black frost in my party is a blast.

>>181432360
>>181438339

>>181446961
>CRAFTING
>OPEN WORLD
>SURVIVAL ELEMENTS
>the three red flags of cancer of modern videogaming in my SMT
Dropped.

>>181455990
Most SMT games don't get fun until you unlock the cooler fusion options.

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>>181431956
Which is another reason to go Law and just destroy the fucking city. It's an utter shithole filled with demons and batshit insane fucked up humans. I just can't imagine the people of Mikado mixing, and living with the people of Tokyo. They are exteremely different, I bet after a while they would try to kill eachother.

>>181431956
Is this the Neutral route? You're going to remove the dome, aka most of Mikado.

Personafag here, bought SMT IV a few days ago.
30 hours in now, never would I have thought that these games get so fun. It was a slight drag to get through the initial 10-15 hours, crippling rng-driver difficulty aside, nothing happened story wise, but now that the game picked up? It's awesome.

I hope I'm doing everything right, I want to finish this game the way I intended and play Apocalypse too when I find it in a store.

You guys were right all long.

You are a big oni

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>>181459893
Glad you're enjoying yourself. It's a pretty fun series.

>>181459893
>apoc
hope you don't care too much about story
that aside, yeah, IV picks up a lot after early game hell, smirk+press turn is still messy as hell all the way through, though

>>181448280
>you can explore most of the overworld freely
>you craft swords and demons
>you need items to heal and survive

Maybe it was cancer all along.

>>181459893
After IV and IVA what game will you try out next?

>>181463384
The story is not bad, the problem lies with how the cast reacts to it, and the narrative is fucking shit.

>>181442092
>Man that Maria clip
Wait what? More new info was shown?

>>181463646
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvSjDIxgG7o

Anyone can translate please.

>>181459091
>this city is a shithole because we killed a ton of their people and forced them to seal themselves underground to avoid annihilation, resulting in a demon-infested dystopia where power fell into the hands of demons and autocrats
>they show desire and potential for peaceful existence and the actions of the samurai suggest it could be made a reality in a few years' time
>let's ignore the moral objections of those able to work towards peace and wage a genocidal war on them
lawfags, everyone

>>181463505
>the story is not bad
>the narrative is fucking shit
uhh

>>181463505
DDS or Nocturne, I don't care much about negotiating with demons, as it's frustrating enough so might as well go with DDS.

TBQH, I'll prolly just play all of them at some point, I really like these games.

>>181464471
What I mean to say is how, despite the game presenting you with to options
>kill your friends
>be a anime protag
it REALLY shoves your throat the later, the whole game. It does not make any sense for Nanashi to be an edgelord. I dont know what to call it but the story itself is solid just the final choice is fucking shit I guess.

>>181456426
It works well in Breath of the Wild but Atlus will never make an AAA game.

>>181464068
My nip is bad but I think it's
>Human...? you're human... then what am I...?
>Human...? No, that's wrong... O-Oh!
>That's right... Remember... I remembered...

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>>181464068
>>181465560
Having watched over 100 animes, I can confirm this is... more or less, what she says.

>>181464195
>i will go neutral so that i can achieve false """"peace"""" for a decade

even if the unclean ones "show" their desire for peace as long as YHVH doesnt approve it everything will start over again. what you are doing is literally just looking away from the reality that either law or chaos MUST win. go law or chaos i dont care but going neutral is jus t fucking retarded.

>>181451104
He is proto-Gale.

Whats the consensus of Devil Survivor 2?

>>181469489
Good game overall.
I liked DeSu1 better personally, but DeSu2 is good.

Don't worry about the consensus, just play it.

>>181466118
>law or chaos must win
all you have to do is push their shit in every time they show up
it happens to be a valid tactic in every game

>>181469489
Lighter and goofier than the first with a polarizing cast of characters but the core gameplay is intact and better than ever.

>>181469601
Not really, just have your demons on buff/healing/ailments and have Nanashi and Gaston do the work.

Shesha is easy, just boring.

>>181469601
No, just punch him with your magic sword. The first fight is pretty scripted, so it shouldn't be a problem no matter what you have.

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HELLO ADVERTISING MY NEW STREM HERE PLEASE FOLLOW twich dot tv slash althazarsama

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>>181470865
Fuck off

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>>181429353
Speesh Marine still best boy.

When is If... coming?

>>181472497
Sometime in 20XX. Gideon Zhi has very little time for it nowadays and refuses to hand the project off to other people

>>181472497
Never ever.

>>181472497
It won't be out any time soon
If...ever.

>>181469489
The voices need to be raised the fuck up.

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>>181470865

>>181474425
the best way to stream

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>>181474959

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My waifu is so beautiful.

>>181476778
>Waifuing a character based on entirely on looks
fucking degenerate

>>181476778
yukiko amagi looking ass

>>181477061
I'll waifu my chaotic lawful dick in your ass if you ever talk to me or Alex like that again.

>>181476778
i want larry to leave

>>181478070
*Anthony

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>>181476778
My waifu is more beautiful

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>>181478646
I concur.

>>181473105
Other people should just sack up and do it, but they won't because the fan translating community is full of faggots that cry, "muh project," when others start to compete.

>>181480906
Never played the original, did it also have difficulty options?

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>>181476778
Has anybody made any edits to make her look like Yukiko?
Pic unrelated.

Why was 4A's great base gameplay wasted on a shitty postgame, with only Stephen and the fiends, who you have to go through shitty Twisted Tokyo for?

>>181480906
Compared to Nocturne and IVA's War difficulty, how hard was Strange Journey?

>>181482402
Probably between the two. It can absolutely fuck you over in places if you don't know what you're doing. Ouroboros? Forget about it.

>>181478646
>>181479168
>Lawfags are uniornically fags

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>>181483257
>implying I'm not a fujo

>>181483552
That's even worse than being a lawfag.

>>181483592
What if he is a fujo lawfag?

>>181482402
Nocturne isn't really difficult since no boss in the game can beat you once you max buff.

So in that sense, yeah, SJ is harder, since bosses can fuck you hard even with buffs and random encounters are common and get difficult. The final boss of certain routes is also ridiculously hard, hardest final boss in the series imo. IVA has much tougher bosses I'd say, though, since a lot can actually fight the buff/debuff war

>>181483635
Truly unforgivable.

>>181483636
This pretty much. Most issues I had in Nocturne were more dealing with managing my party against certain demons or bosses and getting lost more often then not.

>>181483592
There's not enough hot chaos husbandos, not my problem.

>>181483636
>>181483889
Good to know. I'll be sure to play DSJ on Expert in that case.

>>181473105
>20XX
oh no

>>181480906
if EOU2 is any indication of what Atlus considers balance, I'm not looking forward to fighting Expert SJR bosses.

>>181485017
4A War>Apocalypse doesn't feel that much harder

>>181453168
I got it on PSN. Game runs at like 10 fps and the sound desyncs most of the time.

>>181464571
If you don't like negotiating then Nocturne will frustate you. Maybe I'm just getting bad rng but most of the demons I try to negotiate with just take half my inventory and run away and for whatever reason Detain just keeps failing.

Playing smt iv, I'm really surprised Burroughs is going along with my shit on this chaos path.

>>181487423
You're her master, not like she can say no. She also goes along with you ending all of existence too.

>>181487423
She's an AI, nothing matters to her.

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>>181487423
She goes along with anything you do. Literal best girl.

>>181488291
>Literal best girl.
Considering it's really either her or Isabeau (who's not in most of the game), that's not anything to note.

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>>181476778
>Meanwhile in another timeline
Can't wait for the new SMT x FE DLC lads!


I will never not be pissed
Worse then ME3 ending in my eyes desu

>>181489220
You fuckers are so overdramatic.
Maybe you shouldn't get your hopes up over a teaser trailer that shows literally nothing.

>>181489352
You double nigger it was a crossover and was advertised as a crossover. Litterly everyone expected a crossover and not some FE idolshit

Maybe Nintendo/Atlus/IS should not have advertised at such. Idolfags/waifufags are cancer

why was Walter against human harvesting but all for opening a portal to let in demons that would slaughter tons of humans?

>>181489352
>Maybe you shouldn't get your hopes up over a teaser trailer that shows literally nothing
>expecting an actual SMT crossover with advertisements featuring SMT protags is considered unrealistic
wat

>>181488868
Nozomi used to be the undisputed best girl until Apocalypse came along.

It's not fucking fair!

>>181489625
>>181489735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo
This is all we got.
Atlus presents: SMT X FE Development now in progress
I'm sorry you're so triggered by idols and anime, but it's your own damn fault for reading too much into a bunch of still images from old games.

>>181490349
yes, a fucking crossover with two ips usally means a fucking crossover with these two ips.

Its atlus fault for lieing to us, not our fault for you know, expecting a crossover you idolshiter.

>>181490349
>Atlus presents a game called SMT x FE and shows portraits from characters of their franchises games
>apologists feel surprised when people are disappointed for not getting what Atlus presented to them

Face it, it was a bad decision.
If they didn't want to create false expectations, then just showing the name and a logo would have made the trick. The characters' portraits were uncalled for and unnecessary.

>>181490218
>Nozomi used to be the undisputed best girl
Pretty sure that's just you, anon.
>>181490349
I feel like you're just desperate to tell people off, even at the expense of sounding like a moron.

It was clearly obvious that Atlus and IS originally had something different in mind, but Avex's involvement fucked things up

>>181490218
Blame the writing staff for making Nozomi a mouthpiece for Danu's views in Apocalypse. It wouldn't be so bad if the plot didn't give them the moral highground.

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>>181490796
>>181490821
>Speaking with the Hobby Consolas magazine, Hitoshi Yamagami (Xenoblade, Pandora’s Tower, Fire Emblem: Awakening) shared, “For a long time, I’ve wanted to create a Fire Emblem in our times, in the real world. Imagine a Pegasus that comes from the sky and lands on Building 109 of Shibuya, Tokyo. I always thought that would be incredible.”
Yeah what false advertising, we didn't get anything like that at all.

>>181491251
I feel like the people who made this game were really too dumb to understand the idol genre isn't well liked outside of Japan.

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>>181491251
>I’ve wanted to create a Fire Emblem in our times, in the real world
You may not know anon, but Fire Emblem is a medieval-fantasy tactical RPG. It's actually not about idols with singing and dancing to J-pop.

Common mistake, I know!

>>181491251
And what about the rest of the other anons post about smt dudes in the universe? Jesus dude what is so hard to get that they fucking lied to us. a peg knight in SMT IV ruined Toyko would have been rad.

>>181491612
I'm pretty sure most japs are too xenophobic to care.

>>181491939
>>181491612
did't it sell shit as well in japan?

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Jihad

>>181491939
I honestly have no idea who the target audience is for this game though, even in Japan. SMTxFE felt more like a developer's pet project that failed to sell units.

>>181491993
Yeah.

The Wii U was a worldwide flop after all, and I wouldn't be surprised if the japanese SMT fanbase wasn't fond of the theme either.

>>181491993
Pretty bad, yeah. iirc the worst selling Fire Emblem game, if not the second worst?
The only way it made its money back + profit is merchandise sales, like ticket bullshit.

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>>181492352
>>181492282
Well thats good news.
>You will never have Hector and Aleph in the same time
Feel bad man

If they did do the thing and made it what everyone thought it was going to be, it would have sold like crazy and the two franchise would have had even more fans, but I have a feeling SMT and FE fans already crossover.

>>181492528
>implying it wouldn't be Awakening characters only
Just look at FE Musou.

>>181492282
>and I wouldn't be surprised if the japanese SMT fanbase wasn't fond of the theme either.
Absolutely. They also shit on 4A for the same reasons we do (Persona-like writing, no Divine Powers route, the general shit writing). amazon.co.jp reviews has people bitching about it.

>>181493247
Honestly, how could the writers of 4A not give up a Divine Powers route? They were easily the best faction in the entire war. The Persona-like writing made humans look complacent.

Did Fire Emblem ever get a WiiU game before TMS?
Because it's kinda retarded to release the game on a new console and expect it to sell among SMTfags and FEfags where it's very likely the fans of both franchises don't even own it if they didn't get games on it before.

>>181493650
>Did Fire Emblem ever get a WiiU game before TMS?
FE hasn't had a home console game since Radiant Dawn for the Wii.

>>181490349
I think the issue is that from that teaser, people were expecting FE X SMT while the actual game turned out to be more Intelligent Systems X Atlus.

>>181493783
That's what I'm saying as well, maybe I'm not communicating it well.

I don't think the trailer showed anything of substance, so I find it silly that people had these grand expectations and then got mad when their expectations weren't met.
Sorry for being so pissy.

>>181493650
I think you forgot how pathetic and short-lived Wii U's library was.

>>181493926
I mean, it is a little misleading to have a trailer featuring FE and SMT characters and then only include weird alternate forms of the FE ones. The expectation that say, Demi-fiend and Marth would appear in the same game isn't exactly a leap of logic given that they both appear in the trailer.

>>181493926
>grand expectations
This is why people are calling you an idiot, anon.

>>181494079
Maybe.
I always thought the trailer was literally nothing, so maybe I just assumed other people felt the same.

>>181451374
Indeed.

My nigga Fenrir makes it pretty easy.

>>181494079
>and then only include weird alternate forms of the FE ones.
No, the main problem was that it was practically a whole different franchise targeted for a completely different audience. It successfully alienated both SMT and Fire Emblem consumers.

If it had been something closer to SMT but with weird alternate FE characters, then it wouldn't be as harshly criticized because at least its still accurate to what was advertised, albeit still misleading/disappointing to fans who expected actual SMT and FE protags in the game.

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>>181471673
Fact.

what do I do if one of my female demons falls in love with me

>>181496624
We both know that'll never happen, anon.

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>>181496624
Take them to live with you.

>>181496850
IS PYRO JACK KILL?

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wat smt is this?!

>>181496898
>pyro jack

Hee's Jack O' Lantern now, ho.

>>181498518
#NOTMYJACK

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Why did the people of tokyo feel the need to dig upwards to escape the firmamentt? Why not just dig... forwards?

>>181501297
It's possible they could've been buried deep underground, so digging through the side could've gotten them nowhere.
But digging up would almost certainly get them to the surface eventually.

>>181491612
Idolshit is very popular among weebs though #FE is just bad the songs sound cheaply made.

>>181502207
Weebs (actual weebs who would be into idolshit that isn't Love Live) aren't all that common to begin with.

Not like K-pop and its culture

>>181495787
A KH-esqe game with a demon summoner going around in the FE/SMT worlds fucking shit up/saving the day would be pretty fucking rad.

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Let's go together

>>181504693
>FIGHT FOR YOUR FRIENDS
>TO HELL WITH FRIENDS BOYO

>>181506409
Overrated faggot with his overrated group.
Don't get why the homos in here can't stop fapping to him, he's an ugly poo in loo.

>>181506925
Triple ailments+double debuffs in 1 turn don't lie

are fiends any good in SMT4A? Matador's Andalusia looks pretty awesome

>>181507353
As you pointed out, having a Matador with Andalusia, Charge/Critical Eye, and 6 passive skills is fun.
The others are only useful as fusion fodder for the Pierce passives, though you might be able to run Mother Harlot as a general support demon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcqNzXZYGiQ
new gameplay

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Are Inanna's Raging elemental attacks higher power than their other severe equivalents? Wondering if I should take the time to swap out Raging Blizzard for Ice Age and such.

>>181510273
They better not fuck this up. Not after 4Apersona shit we had to endure.

>>181510589
>only endure
>he doesn't have enduring soul

>>181510413
they are slightly stronger but the weakness granting side effect doesnt make it worth it, unless you like risks

>>181510871
Thanks, that's kind of what I figured was the case. I was a little on the fence, if the power increase was significant I'd go for it, but if it's not that much it's not worth the risk. Time for a bunch of fusion shuffling. Appreciate the reply.

I started NG+ in Apocalypse and I am broke as shit so I cant fuse Satan and other powerful demons. Is there an easy way to make lots of money on early NG+ or do I have to buy Macca DLC or Diamond Realm DLC so I can jew high level demons with fundraise

>>181511517
you carry over money, don't you?

>>181511707
you do if you choose to reincarnate, but i didnt have much money when I beat the game

>>181456152
The thread was made after the other was archived.

>>181454738
>MT2 protag (who has a fucking robot arm by the way)

Isn't that his own fucking fault.

>>181464068
MARIA!!!! NINE REBORN

>>181491251
I don't see 109, and that shit was in fucking P5

>>181497552
>Digimon

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>>181448324
newfag here.

Who is the third guy in the blue outfit?

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>>181514612
>inferior male protag from SMT: if...

>>181514612
One of the protagonists of SMT If... There's also a girl version.

>>181514680
Tamaki's hips don't lie!

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>>181514680
Those are some serious thighs right there.

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>>181514680
i'm not gay dude

I've been workin on the railroad, all the live long day~

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>>181514680
>>181514913
>>181515129

how many demon races there are generally?
list it

>>181519142
A shit ton of them
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Race_and_species

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Summoning App when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeJPzSa25Qg

Will this ever get subbed?

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>>181504136
Kpop isn't really popular, even with kpop companies puring money into youtube networks from other countries to make kpop react videos, it's online popularity comes mostly from china and places like thailand/philippines... The single and main reason for doing idolshit it's that idol loving tards pay a lot for shit so they can compensate low numbers with high prices although #FE sold like a averange atlus game it even outsold Strange Journey.

I started up Nocturne again to finish the Burial Chambers. The guide I was using said I needed to beat Thor in less than 7 turns, but when I did it in 10 the number became a light shade of red. Does this count for the extra press turn?

I'm such a fucking casual braindead fag that I had to beat the DDS games using cheats.
I'm really not happy about random encounters.

I never actually beat Nocturne because the available cheats just weren't good enough.

So I guess I'll just go back and do it legit right?
Should I start with DDS since I have the feeling it will be easier?

>>181525303
It wont be easier.

Unlike Nocturne in DDS you cant adjust the party weakness until halfway the game so back attacks are more deadly, on the flipside the MC is allowed to be knocked down.

Still cant believe people has so much problems with random encounters.

>>181429738
>inb4 it was a Personafag who keeps /smtg/ alive because of the OP of the thread

Maken Shao was Meguro's only godlike composition

>>181526212
DDS is great. Pretty much downhill from there

>>181519142
>>181519640
46 demon races in IV/Apocalypse
is it the same for Nocturne and SJ too?

>>181526212
fucking love Amsterdam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC5_nNJY_8g

anyone have that imgur album of all of Kazuma Kaneko's artwork that isn't Megaten. I think the one from the recent manga he worked on was in there

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I might have goofed.

Playing SMT IV right now, i went chaos route, I'm 2 fights away from the final boss. Said boss is lvl99, from what I was told. I am lvl 75. Demons around 70.

How fucked am I? Do I need to grind in the purgatorium? I'm in the 5th Crown and it's not lookin pretty.

>>181528721
He is easy as fuck and doesn't deal much damage. Great banter and OST though

>>181528721
You're fine.

>>181529115
>>181529152

Also, any tips for Seraph? I've been trying to off this fuck for a few days now, at least an hour daily.

All he does it spam -dyne shit and uses his barrier, and when I use zan-stuff my demon gets blasted away.

I can excuse the Minotaur, this is the most BS fight in the game.

>>181529561
When he use his barrier it flashes a color. Use the matching spell on him to break it

That or -karn him

>>181529724
I know that, I worded this wrong.
Even if I manage to destroy his barrier, my party just gets wiped, I have no idea if it's me being horrible or if this fight is meant to be stupid.

Why are the law and chaos ends in apocalypse considered the bad ends? I mean I'm going for anarchy on my playthrough anyways but I'm curious.

>>181530572
They cut the game short like the White ending, you miss out on, I think 2 dungeons and the proper final boss if you go Law/Chaos

>>181530730
Ah that's pretty lame. Guess I'm not sticking to chaos then.

>>181530572
It's massacre, not anarchy.
The game wants you to go neutral.

>>181530907
I heard neutral is way easier to get in Apocalypse than SMT 4. I'll go for massacre anyways just for fun though

>>181531121
Both main endings are neutral, just in two different flavors.

>>181531121
Both Bonds and Massacre are Neutral. Light-Neutral and Dark-Neutral

Massacre has better banter, but Bonds has hoyboy and different demons

Genuine question to all lawfags:
What is your motivation or belief to follow YHWH, despite you being a disposable pawn to him at best and most probably getting left behind by him despite being a good lawfag?

>inb4 greater good

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rate my neko

>>181534106
>Pester

>>181535121
there are three skills she comes with, no mitama can clear that so I just kept the best skills she learns

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Aight /smtg/ give it to me straight.
Which game in the series, mainline or spinoff has the best story? No other criteria, just story, which one had you shit bricks most.

>inb4 P2

>>181537474
Persona 3.

Fight me cunts.

>>181537474
DeSu 1 I guess.

>>181531824
You can be a lawfag and not follow YHVH.

>>181537959
Really? Persona 3? Why?

I thought it was the weakest story in the entire franchise.

muh tartarus, muh kirijos

>>181540382
Not him but the last month and the start was tight

>>181540887
I'll admit, the start was fun, immersive and all, and the beginning/introduction to Tartarus and school wasn't bad either, I just feel like P3 dropped the ball somewhere along the way desu.

I'm the dude who asked about his level in SMTIV being "okay" before facing the last few bosses on chaos route.

Just finished the game, first SMT I ever finished actually, that was beautiful.

Not sure if I will play NG+ but I'll definitely do Apo

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>>181537474
Probably Raidou 1. I also thought DeSu2 was pretty good.

>>181531824
I just want everybody to obey laws and keep status quo for the good of everyone. Peace and stability is better than some radom edgy chaosfag bashing your head because you are weaker. Even if staying law means no free will and martyrdom it's still worth it.

>>181543063
You should try to get the neutral ending on NG+ before you play 4A

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I'm aware of the differences, and how I missed out on some gameplay this way. But I really wanted to help out hoyboy

I chose reincarnation, does that mean I get to blast through the game now or will I have to struggle for the first 10 hours again?

Also, I haven't played older games so I gotta know, was lucifers art always shit shitty? Geezus christ that demon was ugly as balls.

>>181534106
>pester over stun needle
???

>>181537474
dds
only weak point is the sun, but it's set up so everything is in place already

>>181543540
The same is reached with being a neutral. Without the whole cuckolding by YHWH.

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>>181544327
He was fucking rad back then. IV's design is improved drastically in IV:A though

>>181544327
atlus decided to get a hack guest artist to make lucifer/merkahbah

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>>181544327
here's kaneko lucy

>>181544668
why are you posting satan

>>181544668
Hoy this is way better!

ATLUS why

>>181544979
wait, i'm a fucking retard

>>181544740
Mer-kun has some thoughts put behind him as an angel closer to the Old Testament description of being monstrous. Lucifer is just shit

>>181545191
>>181544979

Thats even better.

Also, satan is noice, I like that.

>>181545303
it's not satan
i'm the fucking retard, that's a different lucy design

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>>181545303
That's not Satan. They are Lucifer as the great angel or Helel, and Lucifer as the demon lord

>>181524874
Love Live Sunshine sucks and you unironically posted the shittest and worst girl in a sequel filled with shitters.

>>181546442
Nice shit taste you got there.

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>>181546738
>shit taste
>for not being a fag for liking literal garbage like Sunshine
Go back to your shitty mobage general, faggot.

>>181546886
µ's was equally garbage don't kid yourself.

>>181547015
No it wasn't. Your delusions are awful.

>>181547053
Yes it was, one two girls out of nine were good.

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>>181547015
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>181547163
Nah, eight were fine and one was shit. Comparatively all of the girls in Sunshine are just shitty watered down diluted clones of the original cast and have nothing going for them.

>>181547584
>>181547434
>>181547163
>>181547053
>>181547015
>>181546886
>>181546738
>>181546442
What does any of this have to do with SMT?

>>181547584
>Honoka, Rin, Hanayo, Eli, Nozomi, Nico and Kotori are fine
Sure. It's okay to hate the new girls because they're a rip-off and killed of your µ's but don't be delusional.

>>181513761
yes and it's amazing how a few rooms back someone tells you to watch the fuck out for an arm crushing trap and you still put your hand right in it

>>181548079
Everything.

>>181548170
>Sunshine
>killed the original Muse
You are delusional. Like super delusional.

>>181548247
hes so stupid

i kind of love it

>>181548285
I don't see any new µ's singles or anime or PVs, they even stopped with their main story in the mobage. I'm not denying that the majority would rather have them back though, recent sales aren't looking fine.

>>181548593
Muse was done after the movie, that's the entire reason why they made Sunshine and wanted a sequel series. Because Sunrise wants to make Love Live into a franchise just like with Gundam and compete again with Idolm@ster.

Anyway as far as comparisons go:
>Sunshine has lower disc sales then either season of the original
>Sunshine's episode ratings were generally lower then both seasons of the original
>Sunshine's entire cast are just clones of the original cast with less development

Sunshine hasn't killed anything.

Maki is chaos and Nico is law right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pfg5n7uiek
most bitchin' terminal theme

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Guys post non SMT characters cosplaying as SMT characters!

>>181549824
Is this western shit

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You guys ever done one of those LNC charts before for the different reps?
Would you think Megaten would be better off using an alignment subtype like Good/Evil than the simple LNC in showing the variations in the alignments?
>>181549824
Fuck off nigger.
>>181550808
Shit being key word.

>>181552861
It already does nigger, the subtypes are light/neutral/dark

>>181553087
Why doesn't it feel more present in a lot of the games outside of dark demons being unrecruitable for the most part?

>>181553491
I don't know, probably Atlus not caring enough. It'd be great to see in-fighting between say, Chaotic Dark and Chaotic Light tho

>>181470865
Your stream is shit and your mods are shit, fuck right off

Is there anything more pathetic than musefags? literally the only remarkable girl was Nico for being a shitty moe blob. Sunshine is objectively better it has better songs and better seiyuu.

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>>>181554115
Call me when they get an erotic game of best girl.

>>181554115
Dumb Sunshinefag. Nozomi is love.

>>181549105
Nico is chaos.
Maki is neutral.
Nozomi is LAW.

>>181555181
Only fat tumblrinas like Nozomi.

>>181555664
t. Sunshine spic

>LoveLive discussion
REEEEEEEEE we should've just died

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>>181556212
I want idolcucks to leave.

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Speesh Marine prefers idolm@ster

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give me your best hoys

>>181544979
I hope the next Lucifer design we get is similar to this one.

Kind of disappointed they went with Nocturne's design in P5

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>>181556805

>>181556805
Give me five Soma Drops first.

>>181553947
Yeah conflict within Chaos factions over which group has the strongest ideology to push and affects who you side with if chaos aligned forming shaky alliances with Neutral Dark demons to help in neutral route but risk getting betrayed or fucked over would be cool
>>181556212
You thought /vg/ wouldn't catch up?

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Currently playing nocturne right now, the mantra just got destroyed by the nihilo. I think I missed some dialogue, how do I get to kabukicho prison?

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>>181556805

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>>181556805

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>>181556805
Behold my greatest Hoy

>>181558451
Hoy af

>>181557505
basement of mantra headquarter

>>181557505
In the mantra base, go out the door those two hat wearing demons that I always forget the name of were guarding. Then follow the highway overpass. Also make sure to watch out for reckless motorcyclists

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>>181556805

Can we all agree GX was the best Yu Gi Oh?

>>181560008
IT'S TIME TO CHAZZ IT UP

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rate my titania

>>181560274
noice

>CAPTCHA: Lose Sector
damn they know about Eridanus

>>181560008
ICHI

>>181560274
Nice cheats bitch

>>181560274
>420 MP

Pretty dank.

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>>181560008
Odd way to spell 5D's, friend.

>>181561240
>card games oooooooooon
no

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>playing IV for the first time
>hold onto this Setanta I personally fused so he can evolve into qt Chulainn
>turns out he doesn't even evolve
Meanwhile, Jack Frost evolves into a Wendigo for whatever reason. Why is this allowed?

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kill your general, boyo

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>>181564173
don't fucking impersonate me, boyo

>>181564173
This general won't be destroyed so easily. I have the powers of my bonds with all the /smtg/ posters I've met.

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>Griphon is hungry
>tell it to eat itself
>"GOOD IDEA"
>dies
this game is fucking great
too bad i have to emulate it with choppy sound and constant slowdowns because no 2ds/3ds

So near the end of smt iv am I hopping into the future or hopping between dimensions? This is wierd.

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Remember your friends, Boyo.

https://youtu.be/YjAruPJdmOk

>>181567884
Dimensions

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>>181560008
Is this now a Yu-Gi-Oh! Thread?
What does /smtg/ think of Ghostrick Lantern?

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>>181570641
Prefer the old design

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>>181571682
What do you think of Doi's new Titania design for SMT Switch?

>>181572469
As expected of based Doi.

>>181572469
Don't insult Doi like that.

>>181568243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Y7hMFxnyk

>>181567958
>BAD END

>>181570641
cute, though i prefer ghostrick specter
too bad ghostricks are fucked under the new rules

>>181576480
thicc

>>181567884
blasted is what IV's tokyo would be like if lawfags won, infernal is the equivalent for chaos

>>181572643
shut up Doifag

>>181582034
>implying I'm not a Kanekofag
I don't care for Doi but even I wouldn't insult him like that.

His samurai designs were good though, barring Flynn's weird hair

Jesus Christ king Kenji was worse than minotaur

>>181586103
>trouble with kenji
he has two weaknesses and is only immune to light, has no buffs/debuffs or dekunda/dekaja
what the fuck sort of team were you using

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>>181514680
>ass cheek visible from the front

>>181589505
That's her sword, silly

>>181589505
That's her sword's sheathe.

Anyone have a link the the fully patche SMT1 for snes?

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>>181589780
>>181590123
Shut up and let me dream