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Patrician's Choice Edition

A place to discuss all of your favorite oldschool and modern arena shooters such as Quake Live, Quake Champions, Unreal Tournament, Reflex, etc.

Play Quakeworld for free: http://nquake.com/
Play Quake 2 for free: http://q2s.tastyspleen.net/
Play Unreal Tournament 4 for free: https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/
Play Warsow for free: https://www.warsow.net/
CPMA DEZ Installer (comes with maps and doesn't require base Quake 3, make sure to save configs as my.cfg and not autoexec.cfg): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0wfFzzjvCheTVVzSmdnQ1BLUms
Xonotic: http://www.xonotic.org/
Link to Quake 2 Starter with Quake 2 and its expansions: https://mega.nz/#!EAxAlSwa!9v0PQ7QgN60mXDptMqWXvdAC2srSCnb7pGPqZojG2QI
https://sourceforge.net/projects/voretournament/

Quake Champions closed beta signup: https://quake.bethesda.net/en/signup
QC beta is now 24/7. The beta is no longer under NDA.
UT4 Patch Notes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNE1XN6E1Cc
Quake Champions interview with Zero4 and Tim Willits: twitch dot tv/videos/144807974
twitch dot tv/videos/144852481

Duel Tutorials and Tips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLmuRRm1Bag&list=PLxP7tvMqaXzDjw7OYYIEbplCdZOaHLFPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8CP1oSy_-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRe3g65S4Zs&list=PLgbx1wWCtM2DYy26yCLbtY6A0XRiSEM3u&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2tdDZWSGy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkED2PSrl1c

Slipgate to the previous thread: >>180999590
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First for HUH
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>zoot finally meets a proper opponent
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I had a dream of playing /arena/ games. The genre is dead, but it was all right.
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>>181420694
>gets one lucky kill then runs away like a little bitch
>proper opponent
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>>181420979
his match against fazz was probably the most impressive from the previous round
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Fresh OC for fresh bread
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YOU CAN'T RUN FROM ZOOT
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>>181421329
>YOU CAN'T RUN FROM ZOOT
ZOOT CAN'T RUN FROM VOO
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NICE
JUMP
PAD
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This is probably the best QC duel so far.

>dat movement
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:(
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Go cooller.
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COOLLER
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O
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>>181423193
>car salesman
sir i can asure u our cars r cooller than the competishuns
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lads seriously everytime i close QC it uninstalls what the fuck
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>>181424156
I just know bethesda launcher loves to redownload over and over again. Tried uninstalling everything and reinstalling?
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>>181424156
I have heard of some bad buggs in the beth launcher but this some takes the fucking cake
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Sudden death TDM with 2-31 guy in your team
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>>181423518
I am talking it.
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>>181423193
*nods respectfully in your direction*
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Every champion has it's place
And Clutch's place is dumpster
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>>181425452
did you not see agent completely rape his opponent with clutch like 30 minutes ago?
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>>181425452
>And Clutch's place is dumpster

t. shitter

All CPM-fags like wichtl and fazz are using Clutch now.

Anarki is the most annoying piece of shit though, especially if your rail is not on pro-level.
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>>181425709
adad gg eat my ballz bro ;)
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they seriously need to advertise this tournament better

i had no idea it was on until i checked this thread
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>raep :D
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>>181427054
same desu

but then again, it's still beta
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can somebody explain this tournament? like its a qualifier for what exactly
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>>181426023
but if you hear anarki say 'eat my balls bro' that means he's dying a lot
i thought that would be the one phrase you would want to hear from him if you hate him
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>>181427125
it's a qualifier for a lan that's a qualifier for quakecon
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Why does Ranger have a large chin
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what's up with this bracket

where's rapha

why are there only like 3 NA players who i recognize
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>>181429231
I hope Thump4 or gellehsak win.
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>>181429231
>NA players
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>>181429748
gellehsak has made HAL_9000 his bitch with over 100 ping
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>>181429231
>where's rapha
Watching and learning every single move
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>>181430808
cant wait to see him get stomped
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>>181431075
shop scales face on the guy he's supposedly going to get stomped by
gotta keep the joke going
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>>181431369
im taking a shit
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>>181425452
>highest base stats
>ultra low cd fu shield
he seems gud enough
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>>181432969
don't forget faster than every champion but slash and anarki
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OP delivered for once, my fav q3 artwork
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>>181423193

terrible tie knot, though
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>>181434112
and the shirt is way too tight
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>>181434228
t. skelly
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o u wanted to practice movement in our online only game? 2bad cheng chong
rine end here
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how much damage does galena totem do?
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Did you launch Anarki into space?
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i need a break from this game, it keeps appearing in my dreams
>shit happening somewhere near Sarnath shotgun jump pad
>ranger walking around with machinegun in hand
>camera pans out and focus on some woman appearing behind him
>she flips a switch on the gun she's holding
>ranger hears it, turns around immediately, already aiming down the mg sights
>the spot is now empty, camera pans back to ranger lowering his gun
>character appears behind him again, bein so quick she's blurred
>ranger turns around again and she jumps away again
>repeat several times wit hthe camera now doing circles around ranger
>eventually he manages grab her wrist before she escapes again
>they're still not facing each other
>nervous silence, camera pans to ranger's back, he turns his head around a little
>ranger lets out 'in the mood for your little games again, nyx'?
>character replies 'this isn't nyx' and pushes him down the jump pad hole
>ranger falls flat on his face
>camera pans over him
>real nyx appears crouched next to him and turns him around
>'what's the matter, you tip over your boots again'
>'very funny. we got an intruder. a woman. and she's fast.'
>'an intruder, huh. whaddya say I intrude you with this first?'
>she fucking leans forward and kisses him
>the kiss lasts viery briefly, but they both seem to be enjoying it
>nevertheless once it's over ranger seems to snap out of the moment and yells 'stop fooling around! it could get us both killed if-
>sudden stop
>nyx sees the fear in his eyes
>'ranger? what's wrong?'
>he's just staring, paralyzed with fear, pupils growing ever so bigger
>nyx realizes he's looking at something behind her
>turns around and gets decapitated with something that looks like a machete
>gushing blood, her body falls to the ground
>the killer approaches ranger who's still lying on the ground
>crouches over him, leans over and whispers into his ear 'the games are over, I win'
>promptly impales him with a spear through his heart
>camera pans out of the scene
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>>181440705
how did you make the game look so bad
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>>181440786
if you don't send this to shillits as the concept for Hunter release RIGHT NOW bad spawns will curse you for the rest of enternity
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so what do i buy, reflex, quake live, or both?
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>>181443960
Quake Live
Nobody plays Reflex
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>>181443960
ql has players, better bots, choices of physics

reflex has better implemented mechanics and a great map editor
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>>181441998
picmip
nvidia driver "hacks"
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>>181444153
>>181444089
ql it is, time for a nostalgia trip.
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>>181444153

played vql/vq3 for years
thanks to anarki and sorlag i finally got a grasp on cpm movement, got my reflex since early access but i think im finally ready to give it a spin in duel
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>TIM WILLITS'
>ABOUT TO MAKE
>YOU HIS BITCH.

>Suck It Down.
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ded thred ded ____
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>>181454312
Redhead
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>>181454748
I miss my slutfu
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>>181454748
THOSE L E G S
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>>181458584
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_E1KiXJfAs fazz is having azz kicked
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>>181444153
>better implemented mechanics
>poor man's CPMA
mein sides
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so whats going to be last game mode in champions
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>>181461868
CTF
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>>181461868
Not clan arena.
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Thank fuck Jehar is casting over that one CS dude. No more Quake word salad.
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>>181466891

thank god
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>>181430808

being forced to play Overwatch tournaments this month, thanks to Blizzard and their forced coontract shit...
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>>181468742
I think people are getting dramatically better at Duel while he and Dahang are away too, I fear they get spanked in the qualifier they do play in after being required to grind babby watch.
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>>181468102
Jehar is a cool dude he was like top 3 in TS500 and active in a lot of games.
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how do i make QC look like shit?
all these fancy graphics are annoying af
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>>181473136
not him but thats impossible with something shit like intel hd4400 isnt it
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>>181473494
It's like CPMA with worse movement, retard balance where rockets were nerfed while melee gets 100dmg, less content and gamemodes, a pricetag, and no future. I'd get a refund for it if I could but I spent too much time waiting in matchmaking. Also the game shits itself if you have more than 80ping ehich means the game is guaranteed to die as soon as the NA or EU scene start thinning out.
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gellehsak vs carnage right now on twitch for QC
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>>181476357
>its the same movement except worse and slower
>its subjective that rocket splash is shit and people are shilling for a new ruleset in the discord because the current one is trash
>people with a free mod shouldn't talk when it offers everything the paid $15 game does and more
>the game completely shitting itself as soon as you go over 80ms with no lag comp is somehow better than CPMA
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>>181476117
our boy gellehsak won
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>this duel
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>gives up the map
>lets chance have all the items, never fights for mega
>wins by ranger ult
welp
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another sudden death
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>>181476357
I honestly can't tell if you're "merely pretending" or just have have terminal case of choice-supportive bias.

I almost wonder if you're capable of embarrassing yourself even more.
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>>181482675
the power of QC duel
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Reminder

clips dot twitch dot tv/SuaveTangibleHumanAliens
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no more nyx mirrors pls
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Thank you chance!
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>>181486440

>my opponent aimed better than me
>i lost because of it

all seems right in the universe to me
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>>181486440
this was made before rail got nerfed, bj was added, and every champion got buffed in ways to encourage faster play
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>>181489226
He's complaining about TTK on low health heroes, which are the only heroes that can compete in map control, and this allows for snowballs. It's a valid complaint.

Quake isn't a game about aim, it's a game about map control. This is why Rapha has been arguably the best player so long, despite having terrible aim compared to players like strenx or tox.
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>>181490641
Rapha would get curbstomped in any Quake game other than Quake Live since they don't enable +back faggotry
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>>181482675
>letting ranger get in pt blank
or
>walking into orb

you deserve to lose
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>>181490725
didnt get stomped in Q4 and he hasnt been getting stomped in QC despite having to devote most of his time to OW
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>>181468742
>>181469148
Serves him right for being a sellout
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>>181490641

>Quake isn't a game about aim

I apologize, I'm in the wrong place. Can you guys point me in the direction of a game that is about aim?
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>>181490761
>i didn't watch the match
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>>181491036
Here >>181404390
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>>181491036
Duck Hunt
>>181491180
I've seen silvers aim better than globals.
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>>181491180

>counter-strike
>about aim
>a game where your crosshair is not where your bullet goes
>about aim

nigger get the fuck out of here, cod is literally and unironically more about aim than cs ever was
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>>181477132
>people are shilling for a new ruleset
Rama is pushing the ruleset hard.
I've played it. I like the way they limited rocket ammo because I don't like rocket spam at all.
The overall changes to rockets is extremely small though.
>somehow better than CPMA
It's because cpma is pretty fucking shit to begin with anon. It doesn't take much to beat it.

Also you're fucking awful at arguing. Don't reply to me again shitter.
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>>181492487
>she doesn't know how to aim
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>>181492626
What arguments? You're just some drone with buyer's remorse trying to convince himself his literal dead on arrival game that makes battleborn look populated is better than a decade old mod because it has a price tag.
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>>181491036
Call of duty and CS are largely about aim and coordination with your team. Plenty of one tap headshot weapons. I'm not sure about the latest games but cod4 and below have always been like that.
Though "it's not a game about aim" makes it sound like aim isn't a component. Quake has been about a balance between aim, strategic elements and movement. The current player base like it as it was and they've played it for a long time. Of course people will not like when you do what QC does and make rails so incredibly powerful.

>>181489864
Yeah. But really the rail issue hasn't changed much. The difference between 100dmg rails and 90dmg is important but it's not changing the game drastically. It's still a game where you have larger ranges than ever in quake (on average) and lower health pools.
Duel doesn't play drastically different aside from clutch play which can be more aggressive because it's a tanky character with good movement now. And I like it. But I'm a Reflex guy so of course I want the robots to be good.
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>>181492626
Why you're making fool out of yourself AGAIN? You think that >>181476357 post wasn't enough?
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>>181493159
>of course people won't like that QC makes rails so powerful
And we didnt like it when they did it in Q2, and we didnt like it when they did it in Q3.

That's why the nerfed it in QL.
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>>181494046
In Q2 the railgun only spawned every 30 seconds
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>>181494205
That just makes it worse, since you cant pick up RG to even the odds.

It doesnt matter it is slow spawn, because it's a OHK.
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>>181493489
Can't catch it right now, I'm on my phone. I'm an adult so I have to go to work.

But the only solid reason to prefer CPMA over Reflex is the price tag. I don't know why you CPMA fags are so hostile about the games though. You see all that resent in the CPMA discord all the time from people who barely even play.

Play your damn game so you can at least argue CPMA has a player count advantage. Because it doesn't right now. They're about the same despite CPMA being free.
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>>181494046
I think it's just something they decided to make their jobs easier.
I would expect them to have nerf the RG as they've effectively nerfed every other weapon. Rockets are weaker because the maps are larger and there's more movement options. LG has smaller range compared to map size. Shotgun is just slightly buffed.
RG is pretty much untouched right now.
It's so silly.
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>>181494651
how did shotgun get buffed? they made the hitboxes so much smaller than the other games
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>>181495212
tighter spread?
more damage?
faster firing?
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>>181495382
they also made the falloff unbelievably high so you can only use it effectively in gauntlet range
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>>181496112
but there isn't damage falloff?
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>>181496613
whatever, you know what i mean. clicking directly on someones model from more than bridge to rail length with super shotgun does about 20 damage, does 6 damage any farther than that
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>>181496952
> shotgun
> spread
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>>181498656
the ql shotgun also had spread but you could use it from midrange effectively

in qc you literally might as well be gauntletting people for how close you have to get
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HUH
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HUH
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>>181501831
huh?
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>>181501831
HUH HUH HUB
>ez red to bridge
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> writing it as HUH and not the proper HUUH
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>>181443950
yeah i forgot to mention the mysterious character was hunter but it seems it was obvious enough
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>>181505542
eat my balls peggy I tell you hwat
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>>181505905
>implying hank isn't BJ, the old-style fucker constantly astounded by these new-age freaks surrounding him
that sorg ain't right
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shotgun is better than super shotgun
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Bitterman is the best Quake protagonist.
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if so then why didn't he get featured in champions
chegmade atiesd
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>>181507281
How can a man be so impossibly smug?
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>>181507350
they changed his name to ranger, those bastards
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>>181507876
Why are they torturing him like this?
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>>181507281
ranger:
>better looks
>melee weapon
>better nade launcher
>better rocket launcher
>better 'ultimate' weapon
>the original HUH
>master of stealth
bitterman
>better shotgun
>better super shotgun
>better (super) rapid fire weapons
>railgun
>footsteps
>replicates ranger's HUH
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgo5BNbiGMo
HUH
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>>181508271
this pleases the slipgate
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>>181508581
We failed to protect his smile, but can we bring it back?
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>>181508207
>ranger
>better looks
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>>181508581
his smile and optimism ~ Restored !
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>>181508837
canonically bitterman is your default angry bald roid rager
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>>181508837
anon you don't need to lie to yourself, we all know Ranger is best boy.
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>>181509000
But that's Grunt isn't it
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>>181509167
go into 3rd person in q2 and you'll see
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>>181509275
I never really got why they made a model for bitterman when you never see him in q2
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>>181510415
q2's bitterman was just the default grunt
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Is there a way in Quake Champions to start a game just for yourself? I just want to mess with graphics settings and test out some movement stuff in peace and without waiting 10 minutes for a round.

>>181494535
Actual CPMA has less claustrophobic maps and a more reasonable melee range than Reflex does. Reflex feels like a joke game mode sometimes when you're meleeing each other in a tiny room at a hundred miles an hour. It does have stake house though.
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>>181511426
You can make a custom game and play alone.
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>>181511426
deathmatch, dont invite anyone.
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>>181511426
custom game and don't invite anyone
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>>181511512
>>181511518
>>181511530
Oh wow I didn't see 'custom'. I guess I've gone blind.
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Too much going on in my head. Can't focus.
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>>181511864
HUH
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>>181511864
Maaaaaaaan, this sucks!
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>>181511864
I'm gonna FLIP you like a table
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>>181511864
And that is why im top of the class!
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>>181491036
ut2004
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>>181512282
What's with this game and tables? Anarki have some voice line about it, too.
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>>181512423
>UT2004
>aim
>guided rockets
>camera guided missiles
>scopes
>aim
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>>181512491
apparently some reference to a lan where a guy flipped tables

some gay dev shit
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>>181512558
yes, aim
vast majority of frags comes from either asmd or lg which are railgun-style weapons
not to mention the 4d chess that are shock combos
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>>181512558
>I never played ut2004 online

Rockets are borderline useless. The game is all about the shock rifle. You don't need anything if you can aim well with the shock rifle.
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>>181511864
clearly you don't see how this is supposed to work
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Is Unreal Championship/Unreal Championship 2 /arena/?
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>>181512558
Yeah but the game is actually all about shock rifle.
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>>181513078
Also these games should have been released on the pc or added as an expansion to UT2003/2004.
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so all characters have 3 unique awards that they can

> ranger
>deadly slipgate
kill with dire orb
>shub slayer
get that sweet 8K dmg telefrag
>singularity
dire orb collateral

> scalebearer
>stomper
passive ability kill while having high vertical velocity
>roadkill
bullrush kill or passive ability kill with high horizontal velocity
>choo choo
multi kill with bullrush

> anarki
> reanimation
heal when low
> junkie
kill while speed boost is active
> hovertank
reach 100 max health

> sorlag
>venomous
kill with acid
>plague
acid multi kill
>meltdown
hit all 4 acid globs direct (?)

i don't know the full lists for the rest, please fill in
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>visor
seer - kill someone while wallhack is active
>clutch
the rock - 1000 damage absorbed with shield in one life
shocker - kill someone while shield is active
>bj
get psyched - score a kill while dual wielding
>slash
deadly ballet - kill someone with either the trail or explosion
>nyx
out of the shadows - ghostwalk telefrag
elusive - ghostwalk activated while low hp
>galena
cursed - totem frag
blessed -totem heals 500 total
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>>181513591
>hovertank
holy shit that's pretty good
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>>181514190
got a laugh out of me when i first got it

>>181514130
why does everonye else only have 1 to 2?

and galena has damned, which might be 'deal 1000 damage with totem'

also nyx is the only one you can't get a 'denied' on
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WE
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>>181513591
my face when legit CHoo Choo on lockbox
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>>181514469
WUZ
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Has there been any televised /arena/ matches just like how Starcraft Brood War was and still is in Korea? I can only remember Quake Republic; some cable channel during my youth kept on airing it whenever they run out of other programs to show.

I wonder what happened to the hosts of that show and the players
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>>181514404
visor's wallhack is so brief I've yet to see anyone score more than 1 kill with it, same with bj
maybe the hidden medal is awarded specifically for killing nyx as she exits gheywalk
clutch's third may be related to the discount LG he gets while shield is active
slash, galena, nyx - no clue, there's probably a medal for a trail/totem/gheywalk multi kill

>>181514735
RAMSES N SHIT
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>>181514886
currently visor is only useful as nyx counterpick.

even as nyx counterpick people sometimes prefer clutch
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>>181514973
Can Nyx pass through Clutch' shield?
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>>181515126
Clutch can see her in phase-shift when his shield is active. And it lasts for fucking forever.
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>>181515126
Yes but you can see her outline in the shield.
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>>181515239
>>181515256
I thought only Visor is able to see her
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>>181515293
Now you know
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>>181515293
Nah clutch and visor can both see her in ghost walk.
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>>181515256
Haha yeah right you can't see a fucking thing in this game.
>>
Is there any reason why you can't check the score board when the game finishes and you have to wait six years for the game to move on afterwards?
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>>181515713
hit esc to go to main menu faster and check the scoreboard/ stats there
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>>181516024
But then you disconnect and have sit through the matchmaking queue again. I just want it to move on the the next map relatively promptly.
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>>181420948
(sound of raindrops falling)
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Will Quake Champions go max edge and also include nsfw taunts, gestures, and cosmetics?
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>>181516845
Considering Slash's bio talks about her taking heroin and her ability involves giving someone the finger I think we're basically there already.
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>>181516470
The only genre I care about has gone away
Looking for a brand new start
But little does it know that when it left that day
Along with it, it took my heart
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Huh-mp
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wy5Yu8UkuI
I didn't even know JK2/JA was played like this; thought it was just full of Star Wars larp action in lightsaber and force powers only matches/servers
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what champion should a scrub play?

i know this isnt a game where you need to "main" a character to perfect every detail like a fighting game, but if someone is just starting out, what character should they spam to get better at the game without creating any bad habits for themselves or crutches? do any of them actively deter bad play/reward good play more than normal?
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>maining
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>>181522845
>i know this isnt a game where you need to "main" a character

next team read, instead of just spamming the submit key once a synapse in your brain fires
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>>181522739
Ranger to get your Quake fundamentals down.
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>>181522739
Play Quake Live/Quake 3 Arena for fundamentals
Play CPMA/Reflex for Anarki
Play Quake 4 for Slash
Play UT99/2004 for Clutch
Play Quakeworld for bunnyhopping in some idtech engine derived games like Counterstrike
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>>181522739
Ranger and Visor are pretty straight up. Slash is pretty standard too except for her goofy special movement.
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>>181507281
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>>181508207
a lot of these are misinformed or don't make sense
quake 2 has like 3 ultimate weapons and nades you can set off midair
also ranger looks like shit and should always be bright green for visibility
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>>181527530
>also ranger looks like shit and should always be bright green for visibility
t. fake quakedad who got started with quake 3
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>>181528139
Quakeworld duel has been the same rules and rotation for like 15 years. Even ezQuake is old now
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>>181528305
imagine being so much of a weenie you refuse to play anything but duel with all graphics turned off

quakebabs will never know actual fun
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>>181529993
competitive UT used brightskins as well
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>>181530142
>competitive players
yes, all 20 of them
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>>181530336
comp ut2k4 was pretty decently sized
even fatal1ty played it
maybe when you get gud/older you'll understand why brightskins are better than giant red arrows and outlines
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>>181530737
maybe you should get better eyes, grandpa
the best part about brightskins is how easy it makes it to use a color-based aimbot
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>>181530868
mobaquake already has built in wallhack so they might as well add aimbot ability too
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>>181528139
fake quake dad

fakedad?

also, old oc
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>>181530737
>>181530868
how about

how about

we get good, clear, well defined visuals

without resorting to artificial glowiness

of any kind

no brightskins, no outlines

just a good art direction that's readable both in motion and still
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>>181532540
quakebab

quakeslab

>>181532543
nope, not good enough
everyone must be bright green and grey levels only, no music, no announcers, nothing on the HUD but numbers and if your server has more than 2 player slots you are automatically banned from the game forever

truly, the Ultimate Quake Experience
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>>181532543
brightskins are not "artificial glowiness"
reflex is an example of a game made with readability in mind and is just standard brightskin keel/picmip quake
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>>181517784
>>181532906
I really wish more people played reflex, I really am enjoying it right now
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>>181532906
brightskin
bright
as in
fullbright
which makes it glow under all circumstances unless you are next to the fucking sun
you shouldn't NEED brightskins to see people
TF2 is a prime example
> team
> class
> weapon
> direction they are facing
> moving/shooting/reloading/jumping
> all easily identified at a glance
even when it's red dudes against a red background
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>>181533239
I only play it when they do CTF events since duel is dead and I'd rather just play CPMA for that.
>>
I just want less busy particle effects and actual team colours. This outline shit is horrendous.
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>>181533282
That's exactly what Reflex does you retard. And TF2 was always a joke of a competitive game even Valve doesn't take it seriously.
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>>181534165
I don't think he's saying TF2 was, is, or was ever meant to be a competitive game, he's saying it has better visual design regarding character silhouettes and colors than most games designed to be competitive from the start.
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>>181534165
> can we have good visibility without brightskins?
> yeah, we just use brightskins
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>>181534370
Except Reflex does it better and lets you customize it exactly to your liking.
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>>181534562
> does it better
elaborate
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>>181533746
they have a system in place to change colors around on outfits
blue on light gray and red on dark gray for team play
nobody cares about the cosmetics of OTHERs anyway
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>>181534720
Model designed to perfectly fit within the character's hit cylinder, no visual clutter, customizable enemy and team colors, clear visibility on player models and simple environments at all times. If you seriously have to ask how it does visibility better than TF2, a game loaded with cosmetics and particle effects out the ass you need help. TF2 was always a neutered QTF/TFC anyways.
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>>181535825
>If you seriously have to ask how it does visibility better than TF2, a game loaded with cosmetics and particle effects out the ass you need help.
Pretty sure he meant the old TF2 with nine years of development, not current TF2 with nine years of bloat.

> TF2 was always a neutered QTF/TFC anyways.
TF2 is a more fun and balanced game than Quakeworld TF or TFC could ever dream to be, even with all the extra weapons. I'm sure you'll cover your ears and defend Medics doing fucking everything, completely useless Spies and Pyros, and everyone mashing their grenade hotkeys whenever they're about to die, though.
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>>181536197
Doubt you ever played QTF or TFC. TFC was a mod hastily turned into a game but still more fun than slow ass TF2.
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>>181535825
Not the guy you were originally arguing with, and everything you said about Reflex was accurate. I still agree with the TF2 guy on the level that I understand what he means. In TF2, theres never a moment when I cant see exactly what weapon theyre holding, what color team they are, and the action theyre performing. Seriously, the game is designed extremely well in terms of visibility.
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>download lawbreakers
>start local game
>fly to a roof
>killed because """""""""""out of bounds""""""""""""
>uninstall
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>>181538079
it runs worse than qc for me
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there are many HUHs in /arena/ but lets not forget about our demon slaying, AAAAAARG yelling pall Doomguy
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>>181540738
Fuck off, he's just le cinematic rip and tear cuck now.
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>>181512491
well slash and anarki are longtime friends, so of course they're going to be similar

it's just annoying that they're as similar as they are
>>181514886
>cant get more than 1 kill with dual wield
you must not have much time with BJ huh
>>181522739
ranger.
but if you want to cheese without being very good, galena is good pick.
>>181529993
I cant play Quake Champions at 60fps.
And because of this outdated 90s style netcode it's a massive disadvantage.
That's why I need the graphics turned off.
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>>181541139
le kill yourself
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>>181541139
>b-but muh 93 nostalgia
kys yourself
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>>181542506
Make like a colombian and eat my ass you fucking suicide in the making
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>>181543058
Hi john oliver
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>>181543493
doesn't even make any sense autist
glad doomguy is already confirmed to trigger hunterfags
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why do all twitch streams start stuttering/pausing for 1 sec every 2 sec if im not on the twitch tab?
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how do I clean a mouse
(g403)
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>>181538079
the game is so horribly ugly I don't even want to give it a fair shake. The maps are awful too.
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>>181549000
what exactly is dirty?
>>
What do you guys think of all the new school shooters starting to incorporate old school elements again? There are varying levels of success but I really liked Titanfall 2. It has low time to kill and modern style assault rifles, but also a quake-like momentum movement system with air strafing, wall hopping, grapple, and so on. You up to quake speeds easily. There are rocket launchers and projectile energy weapons. It feels a lot more old school than the first game.
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>>181549483
all of these new school shooters have neutered movement and just borrow a few oldschool elements and spread them across dozens of characters
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>>181538079
Just insta-dead? Not even a token "RETURN TO THE COMBAT AREA" countdown?
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>>181554935
you get it but it's very short and slows you down to the point you can barely move. So yeah pretty much instant.
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>>181554625
A lot of them do, but Titanfall 2 is truly fast. I thought the parts /arena/ wouldn't like were the lack of items other than titan batteries, unlimited ammo, or low ttk. Gotta say, I barely even played modern FPS because the movement never satisfied me after I grew up with Unreal and Quake. When Titanfall 2 came out I loved it instantly. I can't think of any other FPS where you are supposed to bunny hop in the single player campaign.
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>>181556472
>Make a game where the main gimmick is the ability to move quickly across the map using a variety of movement techniques/abilities
>Make it so that you pretty much die instantly the moment you step out of bounds, punishing players for trying to experiment and limiting what you can really do
Sounds counter-productive
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Played a few duels in ut4 and I haven't played since february. Felt like yesterday. I expected to get roflstomped by any idiot, but it didn't happen.

Armor system is still the same. <sigh>
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>>181558806
play CPMA
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Is QC hard to get into if I never played arena shooters before?
Also are the maps all closed spaces in that game or are there some wide open areas?
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>>181562168
No.
Yes.
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>>181562168
maybe
maybe
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>>181562497
Yes there are open spaces or yes all maps are claustrophobic stone hallways?
please don't say yes again
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>>181562942
Yes.
>>181562168
Depends.
Yes.
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>>181562942
there are only a few maps in qc right now but they're all small. lockbox is biggish I guess but it's pretty much just multiple medium/small-sized rooms. quake live has tonsa maps, including some much bigger ones that get played on CA servers if that tickles your fancy
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>>181562942
>claustrophobic
Use higher FOV
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>QC
>enter tdm
>join match in progress
>enemy team is lvl 40+
>no one on my team is over 20

elo when?
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>>181564794
You'll still get slummers, QL was full of them.
>>
dont die on me
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>>181562168
Play one of the various free ones in the OP
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>>181440497
50
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When will they change the announcer
>>
Give me OC ideas
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>>181574013
Give Bane Ranger's helmet
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>>181574013
smug bitterman pepe
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>>181574013
Anarki holding a railgun whilst grinding his hoverboard on handrails and doing a rail of cocaine off Slash' anus and railing her at the same time
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>>181574013
Tsundere Galena
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>>181574013
Sarge fisting Major with a gauntlet
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>>181574013
Nyx farting inside Doom's suit while she's ghostwalking
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>>181575385
>>181575912
>>181576596
kill yourself
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>>181577005
>t. faggot Sorlag mainer
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>>181574296
>>181575541
this please
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>>181574296
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man, before shoving him into a slipgate?
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>>181578679
magnificent
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>>181578679
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ejKRqBR2-0
HE DIDN'T JUMP SO GOOD
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>>181574998
This we need a Quake related pepe
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>>181522739
Clutch so you live longer and have more time to practice aim
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Which Quake logo is the most aesthetic?
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>>181587002
Quake 2
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>>181574998
>>181582427
Trying my best. Accept this Rare Wrack while I work
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>>181587002
Speak English
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For me, it's Quake Overload.
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>>181587250
I'll take it
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crash a cute

CUTE
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>>181587417
Post that lewd Crash and Doom comic
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>>181587417
>mfw doombabs don't know about crash and make up fanfic doomgirls instead
>>
ded
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>>181514130
Clutch also has 'The Drill' 1000 damage while ability is up.
Nyx 'inside out' - telefrag
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anyone know what this orange bar that fills up constantly during deathmatch?
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>>181587002
Quake 1
---
Why dont pros use Slash? Not even common in Sacrifice, and very rare in Duel.

I think it's her lack of sustain. Unlike Anarki she has no heal, unlike Nyx, she has no guaranteed escape; and she doesn't even have any base armor to make up for it. She only gets an extra 25 base health instead.
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>>181596559
quad timer maybe?
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>>181597203
her movement is garbage
anarki is popular solely because cpma movement

the only person that admitted to enjoy slash is cooller
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>>181597934
it can't be, in fills up every 2 to 4 seconds constantly
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>>181596559
Spawn waves?
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what a machine
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>>181601096
what the fuc
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>>181601096
i'm waiting to see what happens when this guy hits 99, seems like there's only room for two numbers
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>>181601096
>>181602228
forgot pic
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>>181602228
carnage already hit 100 like 2 weeks ago, and it just appears as 10
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where all the noobs play

im tired of being stomped every time
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>>181605001
Go play something else desu

Any and all /arena/ games are doomed to fail in the current years. There's lots of games to play, lots of things to do; nobody healthy, intelligent, reasonable, well-adjusted, attractive, and normal is willing to put in hours getting good in a single game. Time invested in getting """"good"""" at one game is better spent elsewhere.
I don't even know why developers keep on making games of these kinds, time and again the market has proven games of such kind are not profitable. They're blinded by the money e-"""""sports"""""" is currently raking in.
As soon as the last /arena/ players croak in a retirement home having a LAN party the genres will have become truly dead.
And the gaming community will have become a better one.
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>>181582427
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>>181606335
>throw the towel
no way man
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>>181587590
She takes the helmet off within five pages, it's shit.
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>>181607730
link
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>>181607859
https://imgur.com/a/4paak
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Which is canonical in the UT story? Is UC and UC 2 canon? Is UT3 canon?
>>
anyone tried law breakers beta?
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>>181608010
>ut
>canon

only unreal 1 is a cannon
>>
>>181608042
no because all i saw was people using boring 'pap pap pap' assault rifles
>>
>>181608363
What about Unreal 2?
>>
>>181608363
no, unreal 1 is a video game
>>
I like lawbreakers. But I have some issues. Their tank is stupid strong and is actually consistent DPS over long ranges. The visual clarity in the game is almost as bad as overwatch. If you fire a gun the muzzle flare is probably obstructing your target. On top of that the environments are also visually cluttered. Wraith is also slightly op but you can deal with it. You just have to avoid the ground when he's around.

I wouldn't pay for it but I can see why people might.
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What was his problem?
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>>181609501

u2 was a flop and no one wants to remember it existed - they basically burried all the chances on sp unreal existing ever again
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How alive is QC?
>>
>>181613681
Pretty alive.
Some new players, even.
>>
>>181613681
More alive than Unreal Tournament 4 and Reflex Arena
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>>181614243
more alive than q3, ut4, reflex and ql combined
>>
update when?
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>>181614243
>>181614450
That's good to hear.
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>>181614243
Most alive afps after LB i suspect.
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>>181614791
>LB
>afps
go away cliffy
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Deathmatch Classic > Quakeworld
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This qualifier is pretty fucking rigged

>same amount of spots for EU and NA even though top 64 in EU is better than top 16 in NA
>literally no way to qualify if you don't live in EU or NA

what was zero4 thinking
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>>181618021
you can thank ESL for that
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>>181614791
lawbreakers is awful
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>>181617485
said no one ever
its pretty mediocre
>>
>stranger adds me to friends list and steam after we win together, is a p nice guy overall
>bump into him again a couple days later on the opposite team and absolutely destroy him. removes me from friends list and ignores my chat.

what did he mean by this
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>>181605001
only way to get better is to play people better than you
chances are you're playing noobs but they alrrady have the basic fundamentals down
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>>181597203
slash cannot get out of a bad situation, does not have a 1v1 ability and has no health.

She is the most fun to use but the worst pick.
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>>181614791
souls clones are not afps
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>>181597203
Her ability is shit it's to short to secure an item and not long enough to deck a hallway.
Also her slide is very annoying to use, at times it works like a charm gracefully pulling you around a corner and sometimes it stops for no reason like she was about to slide into some shit or something.

she is still best girl though :^)
>>
>>181622508
The speed boost on her ability needs to be made omnidirectional like Anarki's rather than forwards momentum. Being able to boost away facing backwards to retaliate and time your ability use properly would increase her defense in 1v1s

That or give her 25 base armor since she's the only champ that can get 1shot from spawn
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>>181623445
Crash when?
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>>181618021
Rapha just broke his curse last year, he may be able to take this year as well his duel game was looking pretty clean. That being said I haven't looked at the brackets recently so he may have gotten knocked out
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>>181621929
> reminescent of sodium chloride
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>>181624819
it's a different game and other top pros have been practicing it far more than him, doubt he'll take the final
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>>181623889
I think her slides stopping has to do with the map meshing.
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>>181625391
rapha will go full dooi and win
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>>181625395
I know but that's why it's a useless ability the terrain is to rough to use it. But they can fix it by making it more lenient.
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>>181626206
Yup, I've actually reported this. It's especially a problem on burial chamber where even the flat ground by LG spawn you cannot crouch slide clearly because whoever made the map put some bad meshing there under the hood, I don't see that as being intentional.
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>>181626474
I think they should smooth out the terrain in general it's way to easy to get snagged on a piece of brick jutting through the wall
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>>181626809
So much this
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>>181625509

sorry fellow christian dude, but this quakecon belongs to either cooller, tox vo0, or avek (if he will start taking qc seriously)
>>
Queue up for ffa in Australia you nerds.
>>
>>181629621
Is vo0 that good anymore? I know he took fazz to the cleaners but can he keep it up? CPM guys looking strong in general in this game though.
>>
>>181629621
/ourguy/ gellehsak will win
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>>181626809
They're insane if they didn't take the approach of blocking out the level and then decorating it with non-clipping meshes. This is some shit we learned in 2000.
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>>181629621
>av3k
>av 'collect lg and expect to win solely with it' 3k
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>>181630102
they apparently didn't 'cause i'm getting snagged the whole time.
>>
Happy Independence Day fellow burgers
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>>181633470
i'm European I find your comment very offensive :^)))))))))))
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>>181633470
Thanks BJ
>>
>>181629621
I'd sooner put my money on Agent than av3k
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>>181629621
Forgot Cypher.
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>>181636641
agent destroys tho
>>
CPM gods will put QL cucks in their place
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>>181639208
Only because duel in this is aim: the format.
>>
>>181611748
why is he wearing a barrel as a hat
>>
>>181639564
major items are far more important in CPM than VQL
>>
>>181639736
you see malcolm, when you are wear keg o' health as helmet, you will never be of headshot by lightning gun because enemy try to touch head instead
>>
>>181611748
Bitterman and Scalebearer's unholy love child
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>>181574013
This but with Ranger instead of Spongebob and Rail instead of mountain.

Also replace "run" with either airstrafe or bunny hop/jump.
>>
>>181637902
Yeah, best Clutch player so far.


What would you guys say which players are the best at what champions?
vo0 = anarki
cypher = BJ
coller = nyx
tox = scalebearer
agent = clutch
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>>181641732
replace background with dm6 bridge overlooking rail
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The biggest issue with the unreal series is that aggression is almost impossible sometimes
A lot of the weapons have projectiles that you run away and spam anyone who's trying to get up in your business,
and the dodge mechanic lets you evade damage very well.
I've been screwing around in deathmatch servers for over a year now in ut4, and I noticed the ttk is super high. Enemies have a hard time putting damage on me, and I have a difficult time putting damage on them.

In quake, mobility reduces evasion. You become predictable when you strafejump or use a jump pad. However, ut has the dodge mechanic, which acts both as a speedy mobility tool, and basic evasion
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QC needs more Bitterman, it's just not smug enough.
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>>181644668
> strafejumping is essentially a more analog sprint that with greater variance of effectiveness and speed between skill
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>>181642045
but muh german clutch player had better movement than boregent
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>>181629621
watch rapha come out of nowhere with literally less practice time than time spent on the toilet and win
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>>181644668
>mobility reduces evasion
play more than just vq3
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>>181644668
Aggression is definitely possible in UT if you know what you're doing. Look at Scrmz in 2k4 to see aggression done right. He's one of few who knew how to use shield for aggression as opposed to just defense and will argue that shield made it more aggression friendly than ut4. Otoh, ut4 has more aggressive play, imo. If you look at guys like Aco or reav who are so aggressive it's stupid, and they get away with it. If you have aim, positioning and good movement (as in, know how and when to dodge what projectile or hitscan), you can definitely do serious damage even out of control.

Deathmatch is a really bad example of higher level of play.

And dodge is really bad for evasion a lot of the time. Most of the time, even. Dodge against hitscan, flak or a tracking weapon and you're dead. Even against rox if you don't time your dodges well you are dead. Ut movement is more about shortcuts rather than brute speeding like quake. Sure it also helps up close in combat, but it can be (and is) a trap to inexperienced players.

What makes +back very viable is largely the hitscan. Just watch chip_mask (originally a vq3 player) in ut2k4 for some hilarious +back and shock primary. And he even got third on wcg, beating gitzzz, a ut legend, to say the least.
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>>181645787
I swear to God if he doesn't have that exact pose and facial expression on the character select screen I'm gonna be pissed
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>>181648726
>Bitterman
>being added
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>>181650046
>Im-fucking-plying
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>>181629797

he took fazz playing enough to get like 23 level or something, meanwhile fazz got 60+ something on at least two accounts (fazz and shanti - he played both on stream)

so

given that now the incentive to earn some legit cash is more real since he qualified I expect him to play some more

and boy, he will sweep the floor with rest if this will happen
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>>181637902
agent wont ever win anything outside of sunday tournaments
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>>181650887
With fatal1ty out of the picture, no one can stop him.
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>>181631545
your memes are poor, just like your credit card balance

you could clearly tell he didnt played duel at all prior to first qualifiers
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>>181651394
cypher can, but im not sure about it, since vo0 can compete against him playing in his element (cpm) - he's about twice faster than fazz, noctis, zoot

I remember all the bitter sweet emotions watching him play in ql, enjoying again the hell out of his games, then seeing him go just because it was 10 tl vql he couldnt prepare for simply because he's too old to nerd in front of screen like cypher

now it's going to be his time, I can feel it, he still has the fire, and invention, he doesnt hold to templates and standard plays like aforementioned 'cpm'ers' and he's going to put a fucking huge smiles on our faces
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Don't die
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>>181651395
>he didnt played
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HUH
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>>181648726
Not gonna lie, I would cum if he does the pose and expression
What would be his select quote, though?
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>>181663464
I'm not sure mere words can convey so many different levels of smugness.
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>>181663464
"EURGH!" with him flexing followed by him assuming the pose
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>>181663464
they'll remove his confederate lines because id is pozzed now
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>>181663464
"I've seen tougher, killed 'em too."
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HUH
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>>181666310
HUH?
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>>181666382
HUH!
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>>181666532
HUH!?
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>>181666634
HUUUUUUUUUH!
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>>181666734
HUH HUH, HUUH HUH!
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>>181666830
UNF
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do any of you play CPMA?
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>>181667561
i play reflex

LMAO
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>>181667561
Yes. Join the CPMA discord
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>>181667561
I play Quakeworld
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>>181667957
How many people still play that
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>>181667561
I play PQL
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>>181668043
enough to get duels on the west coast
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>watching rapha get butthurt over twitch
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>baww QC is not intuitive game
>baww no tutorials new players don't understand what to do
>baww dead game

While QC has a lot of fucking problems with performance, netcode and other shit, I just can't tolerate how clueless and retarded the new spoiled generation of players who can't even put some effort to learn the basics on their own.
Motherfucking retards just run away from any "challenges".
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>>181629621
>cooller

While he's my boy, he won't win anything anymore.
He's a tier-2 player now, but I'd certainly enjoy him casting games.
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>>181668497
in what way
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>>181655792
>haha everyone must speak proper english as their first language
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>>181668636
dude tutorials are essential, it makes absolutely no sense for the game to make zero mention of something as important as strafejumping

i learned a lot of shit through other players telling me about it, the game should go over movement basics. I remember the first time someone typed "adadad" in quake chat a fucking lightbulb went on in my brain. The game should tell new players this stuff, even shooting a rocket at yourself for height/speed doesn't seem worth the damage to a newb.

Quake Live had some nice tutorial maps that let players know how far they should be able to strafejump, there's no way to know some of this stuff is possible without seeing someone else do it, most people would never try b2r on their own because it just seems impossible
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>>181669053
playing QC using the shield
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>>181668636

I agree that this generation of gamers are incredibly pandered to, basically to the point that it ruins games.

Despite that I think good tutorials wouldn't hurt though and would help a large part of the new fanbase to "git gud" rather than complain about the mechanics. This means more competition and more fun.
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>>181670298
serves him right 2bh
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For God's sake stop dying
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So can we agree Slash is the worst character in the game now?
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>>181667561
I play with rat sometimes. I'm noob and can't handle real players yet.
Actually, I can't handle rat.100 even 50 so I have a long way to go.
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>>181680520
Slash is too fappable to be the worst.
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>>181682434
Gameplay-wise I mean. She's a decent fap
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>>181424156
thank you for beta testing
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>>181424156
Yeah. That's why you make your own launcher for your game company. Do you know of another launcher that reads your intent this well?
I don't think so.
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>>181512731
This is why I hate UT2004 online for the most part, I just want to have fun but the whole game is just shock combos and shit. It's like if CS was reduced to just AWPs.
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>>181680520
I agree she doesn't need to be so squishy, she's also the most fun though
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>>181516845
What the fuck I thought she was squinting with droopy eyes until now
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>>181685043
How fix?
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>>181685358
Give her a shield that always faces backwards and a dash.
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w§w movement in QC when?
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>>181685358

leave her max health the same, let her spawn with 25 armor. would go a good way to help
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>>181685358

she takes half damage while crouch-sliding at 400+ups
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>>181686036
>Dancing through the bullets
I dig
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>>181686036
>400+ ups
That's basically always. I'm fine with it though.
I like when people slide+shoot.
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>>181680520
Yes
First of all why does she have ZERO base armor?
>>181686036
Ability sucks too. At least in duel (and TDM, but regardless), it's not bad in Sacrifice.
they should remove the need to be going a certain speed to crouch slide. Makes it feel really inconsistent.
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>>181687274
Give her wall-ride?
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>>181687450
pls no I dont want to have to learn a third form
also it would sort of overlap with nyx
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>>181687450
I'll give her a dick ride
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>>181687618
> overlap with nyx

> dire orb telefrag
> ghost walk telefrag
overlap is evidently not a concern
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>>181688013
no, even though they have potentially same result, those abilities arent similar in how they're used or how you execute them
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>>181687618
wall running is not the same as wall jumping
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>>181688157
so nyx has wallplants, and we give slash wallrides and wallies?

I'm pretty okay with that, yeah
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>>181687618
I mean, Clutch is now UT and Anarki is CPMA. Why not have Slash be the gateway for Titanfall players?
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>>181420532
What defines an "arena" FPS?
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>>181688371
plays like quake deathmatch/duel
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>>181688371
pickups and weapon variety.
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>>181687450
That'd be great.
You can trade speed for height. Or height for speed. I like it. But I'm not sure it fits QC maps all that well (also I don't trust Sabre not to make a feature like this horribly buggy).
>>181688371
I have broader idea of it and find afps to be a rather useless term.
It's a shooter where the game is contextualized in form of an arena with rules as an arena would have.
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>>181688371
>>181688571
Building on this
>Lack of loadouts
>Health/armor system
>Skill based movement (strafe-jumping, rocket jumping...)
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>>181688347
>TF
That's way too fast for quake. But i agree. QC should cast its net very wide. They just need to make clutch boost not add more speed after a specific UPS threshold. Like maybe never get more speed from boost than what the initial boost is. Using boost again just gives you the small height bump or let's you change direction.
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>>181688994
TF isn't even that fast do you CTFS bro
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jesus why do the QWC have such shit stream quality
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>>181690840
No I've never seen quake that isn't Defrag that's as fast as TF CTF.
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>>181692794
plau more promode bitch nigga
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>>181688571
>>181688592
>>181688735
>>181688774
Right, so an arena shooter is one played in a small-ish map without teams, and with a variety of weapons strewn on the ground, correct?

Would that make Metal Arms: Glitch in the System an arena shooter?
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>>181695308
You are forgetting the "FPS" aspect
PC port fucking never
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>>181424156

use the syncore qclauncher, not the shitty bethesda one:

https://github.com/syncore/qclauncher
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>>181687740
this
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Just dueled a cpma player who turned out to be a raging homosexual, so many gays in this game godam
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>>181697268
I play CPMA and may or may not have fapped to convincing traps with their dicks out before.
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>>181508271
based
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>>181697268
hey im not a faggot I just like cock
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>>181512683
please elaborate on how shock combos are 4d chess, genuinely curious
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>>181556568
>EA games
no, fuck off and die
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>>181697872
neutered railgun and neutered plasmagun come together to form a power boosted rocket
can't spam since it requires the slow firing beam
can't fire and forget, since you need line of sight

i guess what he is getting at is that it's 3d space + timing and you need to be a bit more methodical?
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>>181630102
>nu-id owned by bethesda
They know little to nothing about making games, anon. 99% of the people employed at nu-id barely understand what a Quake is.
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wish xonotic wasnt dead so i could get my gaming on without paying money for populated games cus im broke
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>>181697268
Traps and futa are NOT gay.
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>>181699984
CPMgay my dude
join the sausage fest
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>>181420532
Is classic duel going to be added at any point in time or should I forget about getting this game and continue playing ql?
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>>181695614
i dont get why it has to be explicitly fps, so long as it's a shooter. you're still doing the same thing the perspective is just different
>PC port fucking never
I emulate

sequel never fucking never ever never
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>>181703084
why not play both
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>>181703368
>Not wanting a port with proper settings and fps
But I digress, emulating is the best way to preserve these kind of games
>sequel never fucking never ever never
That's the real kicker
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>>181703869
fucking activision or whoever holds the IP now is just sitting on it despite it being one of the best-received console TPSes ever

the last hope for the series is if the backwards compatible version takes off on the latest Xbone
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>>181704097
Just checked, Blizzard/Activision appear to have it. Fuck.
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>>181704332
Is there anything ActiBliggers won't ruin?
>"we want to take the fun out of making video games"
>upon being told his company made record profits; "Games should cost more"
>"My aim is to create a culture of fear in the game industry"
>"We want to push out a new title from our Activision IPs every year, bi-yearly if possible"
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>>181704432
>Brute Force
>Metal Arms: Glitch in the System
>Jet Set Radio Future
The holy trinity of NEVER EVER: Xbox Edition
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>>181703084
I'm playing 1v1 deathmatches in customs
it's fun and kinda like actual dual
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Isn't it confirmed that QC is coming to Steam?

Also do you think this will get the game more players considering the F2P aspect
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>>181707203
yes and yes
it was confirmed in the AUA answers and f2p always gets a bigger playerbase
>>
>watching qualifier between Defendants and Avengers
>oh, 2GD is playing, sweet!
>Commentators: "Soul grabbed by "Two GEE DEE!"
Holy fuck, you gotta be kidding me.
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>>181706680
I wouldn't like Quad Damage being there though. Do you guys just make a gentleman's agreement to ignore it?
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>>181707276
Wow that's horrible. Double fail for not having heard of 2GD outside of quake even.
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>>181704432
First quote was a joke taken out of contect. Kotick was right and all the Tim Schafer cocksuckers got blown the fuck out when he proved Bobby right about everything.
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why are there so many supposed quakeworld fags that badmouth q2 yet don't actually play quakeworld??
the community is so small at this point you can remeber everyone that plays by name
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>>181707382
we make "gentleman's agreement" until one of us pick it up
which happens every hour or so
and then after couple of minutes of fun and giggles we go to serious mode again
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>>181707203
yes and yes
F2P is the driving force behind whatever potential success it can have
Quake NEEDS new players and player retention, and it needs an active eSports scene. F2P gives a huge audience for successful players and their sponsors to advertise to.
>>181707276
That match was a stomp.
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>>181708846
I badmouth Q2 because only a retard could have designed that railgun.
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>>181709057
t. no taste contrarian
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>>181709057
thank fuck someone did because the QC railgun looks buttfucking retarded and sounds like shit
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>>181709890

I think the QC rail is fine. I actually quite like the visual design of the weapons in QC.

Now the real problem is the supposed "Quake 2" rail gun it has. It's the ETQW design instead.
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>>181709890
its sounds are a remastered carbon copy of q2/3 railgun you deaf nigger
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>>181710607
but the etqw rail is just a visual update of the same railgun as q2 and q3a, the rail is the only quake weapon that has kept pretty much the same look in most of its appearances
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>>181697872
Prediction shots.

Have some devilmc.
https://youtu.be/95gOOKB8mJA

Check 4.20 on this one
https://youtu.be/Zuk_cm8BuYU
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>>181707276
they're fighting game commentators, how dare they not know how to read 2gd's name who didn't play competitively for 10 years

they got corrected after the first map and called him the right way but imagine sperging out about something like this
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>>181711223
nigga wat? the base green railgun has a psshhh sound, only the classic skin has the classic sound

>>181710607
>I actually quite like the visual design of the weapons in QC.

to busy, too many parts making it look like a michael bay transformer.
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>>181420532
>no Toxikk in the OP
>>
https://bethesda.net/community/topic/68900/patch-notes-for-7-5
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>>181716595
this is the one, the master patch we've been waiting for
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>>181716595
GET HYPE
>>
wow a whole buncha fuckin nothin
>>
>TDM
>Quad announcer for everyone
>come for Quad every time I can (if I'm not forced to fight someone on the way to it)
>1x2 / 1x3
>almost every fucking game

How can those fucking cretins be so stupid and never come for Quad in TDM, most of them are not even low levels anymore. Why do you even play TDM if you don't contest the Quad?
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>>181716595
>>181717238
>>181717361
you tryna pull something 'ere?
tryna bamboozle meh?
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Too painful to be a dream, too real to be a nightmare.
Found in a /v/ thread.
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>>181717986
this almost looks like a variation of the fresh epic gf meme
what would be a ranger gf's traits?
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>>181717238

wouldnt be suprised if they decided that all the internet qualifier rounds should be played on similar patch so team x wouldnt whine that team y qualified after performance fix for sacrifice
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>>181717986
HUH

there's 27 HUH's in this thread currently
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Why are there still no lewds of Clutch?
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>>181718882
>>181717986
99% of people who hate beta QC and pretend that they are some hardcore Quake veterans didn't even play Quake the last 5-10 years and make up lies just to shitpost.
They won't play it regardless even if devs fix everything and make it flawless.

New generation of gaymers need hand-holding games and would play the same games as popular streamers play (for money) like PUBG.
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>>181719284
Clutch isnt for lewding!!!
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>>181719369
Then tell him to cover up all of those pistons and joints, he's so slutty I want to make his circuits scream
Incidentally is he good now? I'm much too shit at the game to get a proper idea but it seems like all the knockback on guns cockblocks his new quickboost.
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>>181719317
>99% of people who hate beta QC and pretend that they are some hardcore Quake veterans didn't even play Quake the last 5-10 years and make up lies just to shitpost.
They won't play it regardless even if devs fix everything and make it flawless.

you're right, i'm gonna make a change
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>>181717412
lmao bruh isnt quek about just shooting))00

why cant i kill with my starting wepon wtf???
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>>181721085
>why cant i kill with my starting wepon wtf???

lel
>>
HUH
>>
What keybinds are you using, quakedads?
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>>181728194
esdf

rtg56hy
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>>181728194
wsad
mouse2 for jump
spacebar for zoom
r for railgun
e for rl
left alt for nailgun
4 for this new quasi - grenade launcher
ctrl for lg
1 2 3 as they are
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>>181728194
wasd 123456789
>>
Is QC beta still open? Getting a 107.
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>>181728194
ESDF
Mouse2 for jump
Mouse4 for LG
Mouse5 for rocket
R for rail
T for grenade launcher
W for plasma
Shift for zoom, might change to spacebar later
QAZ for irrelevant weapons

Not really a quakedad, though almost old enough to be one.
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>>181728194
WASD
M2 for jump
Spacebar for zoom
Shift for crouch
C for Walk
F for Active Ability (QC only)
1-Guantlet
2-Railgun
3-Shotgun
4-Rocket Launcher
E-Lightning Gun
F-Normal Machine Gun (QL/spinoffs only)
G-Nailgun
X-Grenade Launcher/Tri Shit
Z-Machine Gun (only for HMG in QL)
>>
> mouse2 for jump
get a load of these SHAZBOTs
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>>181716595
>we will be bringing the servers down
>for a UI update
Can't they be professionals like valve and do rolling releases like with Dota 2?
The downtime is just the time it takes you to download the update. You don't even need to quit a game if there's a patch coming. The servers run an old version until you're done and they're ready to update.
>>181719317
I have played the quake 2, 3 and ql along with other more recent afps. I dunno if hate is the right word. I just don't think it will capture me like other quakes. I don't see myself playing this for an hour a day. Maybe an hour once a week over a year?
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>>181736230
Problems, faggot?
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>>181707276
how do you pronouce it? 2good?
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Why do people use mouse2 for jump? what is wrong with the spacebar
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>>181738496
thats just how it was done back in the day to make rocket jumping easier
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>>181738496
The idea is that you click both MBs at the same time to rocket jump
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>>181738496
Counter strike babby?
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>>181738784
>he doesnt know all the """""pros""""" in counterstrike bind jump to mousewheel down
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>>181738870
what, i used mousewheel up
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>>181738496
some gays use it to strafe jump/bhop easier but spacebar works fine
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>>181738496
show me someone who is using spacebar that consistently does 550+u
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>>181739315
me
plenty of defrag fags use spacebar too
>>
In warsow space is jump and mouse 2 is dash.
>>
been awhile since ive loaded up QC, everything feels real floaty after playing reflex for awhile
>>
Is it better to hold down jump when strafejumping or should you be hitting jump everytime you have to jump?
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>>181742316
never hold down jump
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>>181736671
I didn't play Quake for 15+ years and the last time it was Q3 somewhere in the beginning of 2000.
I do like to play QC though, already level 80+.
The only difference is I played only duels back then and now I'm casually playing TDM-FFA.
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>>181688371
my dick

if it gets hard after watching the trailer, then it's afps
>>
tfw youre able to jerk off between queues
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>>181742597
how come? im new to quake
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>>181744513
you lose speed when strafe jumping compared to tapping it
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>>181744513
I'm no competitive quake player, but I would assume it's best to let the space bar travel to neutral as soon as possible so it's ready for another depress.
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>>181744713
>using spacebar to jump
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>>181739560
post a vid

i dont habeeb this insanity
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>>181744410
tfw jerk off to slash every queue
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>>181745352
i know that feel
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>>181719284
the "fuck you" in the gif should be upside down.
this upsets me more than it should
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>>181745468
>ywn eat cereal or soup out of slash's clenched butt muscle bowl
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>>181746436
i'd rather use my tongue to collect the sweat dripping down her back and personally clean her armpits, to be totally honest
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>>181728194

wasd
m2 for jump
space for crouch (play slash almost exclusively)
q rockets, e lightning, r rail
4 for nailgun
everything else default
tribolt unbound
zoom unbound in protest, would put it on shift
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>>181728194

In ut4:
Wasd
Q for rox
E for flak
Mouse wheel down for shock
Mouse wheel up for sniper
Wheel button for grenade launcher / bio rifle
F for link gun
G for minigun
1 for hammer
2 for enforcer
Mouse forward for single tap dodge (for special circumstances when it's more useful than doubletap)

In quake it's more or less the same, that is i'll bind similar weapons to the same buttons. And space for jump. I'm not much of a quake player, obviously. I can't b2r.
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>>181461415
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Reflex, is in fact, LAN/Reflex, or as I've recently taken to calling it, LAN plus Reflex. Reflex is not an event unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning LAN party made useful by the ethernet cables, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full AFPS as defined by Qualx
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>>181752859
m e m e s
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>>181750446
just circle jump then strafe jump lol
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>>181756741
the circle jump eludes me
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>>181757683
this is why QL had some tutorials
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>>181757683
download defrag, join a vq3 server and type in /callvote map vq3-cj
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>>181738496
I started using rightclick when I picked up arenafps like reflex and quakelive around 3 months ago. It makes movement SO much easier.

Just use space for zoom, since you really don't need it often.
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>>181709890
I meant the mechanics of the weapon.
>>181718882
*HUUH
>>181719317
I currently dislike the beta due to poor netcode, lack of server browser, game modes, and customization.
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>>181739315
me
but I use M2 for Forward.
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