/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

>>181406890
googum a cute

Second for someone else make my game

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What progress will you make this thread?

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>>181406989
LRSP is cuter

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Progress for today.

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>>181407238
Calling it a night for now.

>>181407238
What genre are you going for?

Now you can hear things if they are being noisy enough.

>>181407346
Metroidvania.
Influences are Hyper Light Drifter, Metroid, Megaman X, and Kurovadis

>>181407137
to be fair we only know lrsp's face as what i drew for him..... he could be an extreme uggo under that handsome face drawing

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>>181407392
webm

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>>181407424

Reposting in the new thread for my fellow nodevs.

I can't even finish making a game of tic-tac-toe. No ability to plan properly, or execute on a plan.

Why can't you finish a game?

Giving small feedback on the demos I have played so far:

>Kick-in
I love Punch Out! so this is really nice for me and hitting furries is always a plus. I feel the uppercut and dodge animations are kind of slow compared to Little Mac's maybe you did it intentionally in favor of the special meter, because In punch out you could spawn uppercuts like crazy. First enemy is kinda on the strong side in my opinion, his hits make a lot of damage compared to what Glass Joe did.

>Unnamed Platformer
Should be called "Picnic in Australia" Lovely work on the new graphics, and the new additions. I lost my shit when a snake walked over a jump pad and flew over my head. Great way to show how they work too. Is the item drop random? I usually get the the cake piece just after respawming and in full health instead of when I'm begging to get one.
Getting the cake with full health should add a temporary extra heart anyway. You kinda deserve it. Good job as always.

>>181407675
Wo shit no way, have you written any program more than 200 lines?

>>181407782
Oh yeah. Just lines of code doesn't mean jack shit.

I've started a game extended across 8-10 classes, interfaces. I've done swarming AI that coordinated to surround or flank the player.

Nodevs don't have to be bad at coding, and I bet some are pretty good.

Nodevs just don't finish games.

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>>181406861
>>181406929
damn let me shade it first

>>181407775

>Spaceship Crew Self-Defence Simulator
I'm currently playing on a shitty laptop because my main rig's hdd, died and I'm having performance issues there. Game seems to run fine, but the controls feel laggy and I can't see my own bullets, so I can't give proper feedback. But I can notice how much work you have put on it since the last demo, and that's amazing. Keep it up!

>Wasteland Rampage
I love seeing how new stuff gets added. Only complain I have is that the inventory screen doesn't look too intuitive, but I guess it's an early WIP since you have improved menu screens a lot over time.

>Catgirl pool party
You had fixed all the bugs I found last time, I think catgirl is moving too fast, unless you have inteded it that way maybe a max speed limiter could work for her? I love how you are following Contra's control scheme for aiming, can't go wrong with that. Do plan to have long levels, or will this have a boss rush approach like Hard Corps? Really curious about that.

>>181408309
Not memeing when I say this, have you considering going for stylized cartoon animal people for characters in shit you do? Because this smug goatee having rat man looks better than your other characters.

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>programmed in around 5 or so languages ( know that's not really a lot)
>out of all of them, Java really resonated with me
>it just felt so good to code in it, like it was made for me
>get told that it's a shitty language
>don't want to dev in it but I miss it so much

I know that minecraft and runescape exist, but both of those games crash all the fucking time so that doesn't really inspire me. Why does my true love have to be so shit? Is it really viable to make a game in it that wont bug out and crash all the time?

>>181408382
it doesnt look better, you're just a furry

>>181408445
Nah, your exaggerated style works better on on these sort of faces than on your humans.

Man you suck at taking compliments too

>>181408421
It's just syntax anon, just use something similar. I don't bother installing Java for anything these days so I wouldn't be able to play your game for example even if I wanted to. I passed on Starsector for this reason alone

>>181407529
you can see through the shrubs now?

>>181408421
C# is really similar and its the main scripting language of Unity, right?
Don't you fucking 'it's just not the same' me

>implement somethign over 3 days
>end up not liking it
>tweak, nope
>abandon it and move to the next game element
I guess 3 days is better than a month later or something

>>181408421
>runescape
They actually switched to an HTML5 client and then again switched to a Sepples client.

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making profile sprites
somebody asked for a twitter/ tumblr yesterday, but i dont have one yet. Ill get down to it once the basic movement/ dialogue stuff feels good enough

>>181407529
this looks like it would be a good dungeon crawler/ action ar pee gee. Is it a roguelike?

>>181408778
That's some nice art you got there. What game is it for?

do linux video games count as video games

>>181408941
Yes.

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>>181408506
just because its a compliment doesnt mean its correct.

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>>181408535

> but starsector is really good

You lost out anon.

>>181409089
Where's the nose start and the mouth begin?

>>181408941
>linux video games

I don't know. Maybe someone will make one some day and we can find out.

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Spent the last month working on a tool instead of my game.
Hopefully it'll actually sell once it's approved for the asset store.
https://youtu.be/PISribn5-y4

>>181409138
i dont draw the mouths are eyes
so its the same as >>181408309

>>181408558
Only if they are discovered mimics.

>>181408778
Thanks, it's not really a roguelike, there's saving instead of permadeath and item position and map layout are hand-made, but most combat rooms are random, so I guess it's like roguelites but not quite. Roguelite-like?

>>181408778
Which program is this?

Your art looks great.

>>181408778
How come you don't use aseprite like most spriters?
>>181409254
Look at top left corner

>>181409254
>Which program is this?
The hint is in the upper left corner.

>>181409254
>Which program is this?
>[Ps]

>>181408930
https://my.mixtape.moe/rfejpy.mp4

>>181409192
nice, it looks quite fun

>>181409159

That's a really great tool for level building.

Well done anon.

>>181409294
Most spriters DON'T use aseprite

>>181409383
I use it for making animations, and GIMP for general editing.

>>181409159
That's a pretty neat tool. I doubt you'll have trouble selling it.

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>>181409383
May be just my bias, but all the decent ones i follow seem to use it.

>>181409350
>>181409446
Thanks! I'm starting work on another editor tool i think.
I didn't want to get into asset store dev, but both tools are kind of needed for my game, although it takes twice as much time to make something asset store ready than it does to just make it for myself.

>>181409159
Oh shit, that's pretty damn cool. There's nothing wrong with making tools that help others.

>>181409159
so can this thing do this stuff during execution or is it purely in the editor?
if it can work at runtime you need to mention it prominently so all the ruglife devs know to give you their randomly generated money.

>>181409254
>>181409294
thanks! i simply didn't know about aseprite. Does it have any cool features?
Any program with the capability of using layers and composite effects should be enough though, composition and polish is what really matters

>>181409594
Naw, it only runs during editor.
I was thinking of making all the features of it public functions, but it'd probably need a week of refactoring.
Plus when i looked, there are actual complete solutions for dungeon generation that already exist, which this tool can't possible compete with. https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/53895

I'm back to grab more ideas from you guys:
Alright idea guys give me elevator pitch for a game. Here are some guidelines:

-K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple Stupid)
-3d graphics (gameplay can be 2d I guess)
-Space Theme(not too important)
-Single player
-Has replayability

I was thinking something like kid Icarus Uprising where you're a mecha thing, several levels, fun story. Levels are in 2 parts. A 3d space shooty part and then a 3d area fighting thing with bosses.

>>181409723
>which this tool can't possible compete with
are you sure any of them can work on spheres?
theres a ton of spacedevs who are essentially making the same generated bullshit but on spheres

>>181409853
>Alright idea guys give me elevator pitch for a game.
something like kid Icarus Uprising where you're a mecha thing, several levels, fun story. Levels are in 2 parts. A 3d space shooty part and then a 3d area fighting thing with bosses.

>>181409875
I mean yea i guess it works well in that case, but the tool isn't a complete solution for that scenario.
And i kind of wanted to avoid adding features that only serve one specific purpose.

For example if you wanted to randomly generate stuff on a surface, you'd need to find random points on the surface, which i don't have implemented in my tool, or a feature that allows you to scatter objects to around a surface, which i also can't do.

I do have feature requests on my asset store description, so if people are really missing something i'll consider implementing it. (as long as they've paid the 8 buckaroos :^) )

>>181409982
1/10

At least try next time.

>>181409998
>(as long as they've paid the 8 buckaroos :^) )
i was going to say that too, seems like your competition are very expensive. capitalism them.

>>181378984
Wow, rude you cunt

>>181410074
Yeah, although nothing specifically does what this tool does, they're all complex solutions when you look at generation stuff.
Only really the tools that do prefab placement by painting are kinda like my tool.

ALRIGHT

I will stop procrastinating

Keybindings will go in tonight

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>>181410148
>tool does something that nothing else does
>can potentially be extended to encroach on and undercut competition
these are both good capitalisms

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(image) why do none of the AGDG devs on twitter know that heartclicks are shared randomly with everyone who follows you now?

>>181410358
Why wouldn't you share your porn with your followers?

>>181410423
some things are meant to be private

181410358
>still trying to spark a derail with /ecel/ shit

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Fuck making my own game, I'm going back to modding now that based Bethesda is going to pay me tens of thousands of rubles for my G.E.M.S approved "Immersive 4d HK 2160 Upsilon 16384x16384 Khajitbenis Re-texture Overhaul mod" in Fallout: Special Edition.

Later you losers, I'm going to make it

>>181407775
Pixel platformer dev here, thanks for playing.

>Is the item drop random? I usually get the the cake piece just after respawming and in full health instead of when I'm begging to get one.
It's based on a counter that increases when you kill an enemy, the rate is faster when you're low on health as well.

>>181409093
Probably. Looks fun

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what's the logistics on making games off pirated software?

Do you use pirated software?

answer honestly.

>>181411029
Only pirated thing left is FL studio which ill buy as soon as i can warrant actually needing music.

uh ctesiphon was fun
i remember some guy talked about the AI not being aggressive enough, which I agree with
also you can go OOB quite easily with the shotgun/plasma rifle but it's never unintentionally so I guess its fine
but the movement is great, i like it
keep it up

>>181411029
>pirated software
Everything I need has a free as in beer version. Don't need to pay a dime to nodev.

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>>181411250
why though?

lets compare gimp to photoshop

photoshop is a infinitely more powerful tool and it's true that gimp is really good for free

it just can't compete with photoshop + all the pirated plugins

i find it funny fags defend gimp when the programs name is
>gimp

@181411341
adobe shill please go

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> Ghost Knight Victis

Works great on my rig, no FPS drop and felt smooth.

Rapier felt too slow and it was easier just to spam spear. I'm not sure if there was a cooldown on the ghost dash, but I felt like there wasn't much I could do trying to deal with two enemies.

Combat feels good. It will be interesting to see how you develop it. I like the different weapons, gives the game a different flavour to your standard souls experience.

> Spear Combat Principles

I've done a video on Spear Combat Principles. I cover off on long spear and short spear. May give you some ideas.

https://youtu.be/jQJtEEdDDAg

>>181411341
>gimp
Nah mate. For pixelart it's Aseprite, the rest I do with Krita.

>>181410358
You are assuming they don't know. It is more likely that they just do not care and the audience that actually is interested in their projects to begin with probably are interested in/can appreciate the exact same stuff.

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Stealth just became that much more viable with the noise pinging in conjunction with peeking around corners. Got to balance it out a bit.
Mimics are a pain while sneaking though, got to make some way to identify them from afar, like some subtle animation every now and then.

Here's a tip for you, people like novelty in gameplay even if it's something cosmetic, fight knight succeeded because it's not "yet another shooter", you punch through everything, that's not exactly new, but it's fresh, undertale succeeded because it's not yet another rpg, it added bullet hell elements, don't be afraid of breaking the usual formula.
Also MUSIC sells, it's built in the human brain, humans react to sound faster and better than images, remember that catchy beat you can't take out of your mind? remember when you got goosebumps because of good music? did you ever have the same reaction to images? no? good, now pay attention to sound design, start learning it or spend a bit more to get better soundtracks for your game, you can even sell them with the game too in the golden edition.

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>>181411409
aseprite is easily piratable

buyfags you lose again

>>181411540
>aseprite is easily piratable
It's literally freeware.

>>181411579
being drm free doesn't mean free

>>181411579
>implying the GM and unity babies here can compile anything from source

Reposting in new thread:

Ctesiphon dev here, thanks for everyone trying it again! Not a very exciting update but I'll keep on truckin'

>>181334623
>>181411214
>Very dumb AI

Yeah, the AI's a clusterfuck of me trying to be clever.

They intentionally lose you when you run out of their line of sight, but I'm going to be tweaking that with a delay. There's a navmesh that they're supposed to use but it's currently ignored as my traversal code was just a quick hack to make sure it was loading.

I get the stuck guys too, I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is so it shouldn't be happening any more next demo day.

The level design has been a very low priority while I make everything to populate the maps with. My plan is to have about 6-8 maps, each about 2-4 times the size of the current one. Depending on how fast/slow that is to make, I could make more, but I won't release with less.

>>181390920
>>181411214
>Jumping out of the map

I know you can, that's the whole idea, the map was built before I added this and I'll be redoing it later. What I'm more concerned about is if anyone is randomly falling through the world for no reason...

>>181371215
I'll die when I'm dead!

>>181411619
If googling a program yields its official public github as result, it's freeware.

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>>181411717
>pirate software
>ITS FREE

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>>181411769
>dev provides source code at no cost
>PIRATED

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Whats the proper way to count time in real world seconds? I'm just so damn tired (It took me 5 minutes to figure out how to get the amount between two numbers ffs) that I can't figure it out right now

>>181410450
Like your shit taste in everything?

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>>181411857
>were both arguing over 14 dollar software

Is it bad when literally none of the demo day entries feels compelling enough to me that I would download and try them out?

>>181411878
>Whats the proper way to count time in real world seconds?
Adding deltatimes at every update. Whenever it reaches a new integer, another second has elapsed.

>>181408778
Looking cute as fuck.

>>181410884
Seems I just have bad luck for drops then.
I'll keep playing a lot tomorrow probably I won't give up until I reach picnic girl.

>>181412025
No, most /agdg/ games here are trash and not worth playing due to being barely whitebox pre-alphas.
DD needs to be a quarterly thing, its quickly lost its appeal.

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>>181411936
>thinking this argument is about any amount of money

>>181412106
It's already bi-monthly, I don't think adding a month inbetween will change much. My vote is for semi-yearly.

>>181412032
Oh fuck of course, that's actually close to what I need to, thanks

>>181411398
>I've done a video on Spear Combat Principles.
Oh shit nigguh. Not GKVdev but still this is great, thank you.

>>181411685
Its a fun game, the only reason I pointed these things out was that I had enough fun just dicking around ingame to find these out
best of luck javanon

>>181412206
By quarterly i meant 4 times a year.
That way DD can slide into our seasonal bootcamp as well.

everybody asks how they start into art, but how one start into music?

>>181412273
4 times a year IS 3 months anon

>>181408778
Stop making your game and make art for my game.

Programmer btw

>>181412068
>Seems I just have bad luck for drops then.
The cake drops are completely deterministic, you kill an enemy and the counter increases, when it goes over a certain threshold it drops a cake and resets. It was RNG based in older demos but it never felt right, so I changed the system.

>>181412273
>bi-monthly
Also known as every two months, aka six times a year 12/2=6.
>quarterly
Aka four times a year aka every three months 12/4=3.
Now what happens when you add another month between the two I mentioned first?

>>181412404
yeah, realized after i sent that but didnt want to q up the cooldown.

I dont know, maybe just three times a year would be better.

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>>181406890
I want to make a game entirely based around opening a variety of menus and such, in an attempt to simulate a simple Computer OS. What's the best game engine to quickly slap down a bunch of buttons and text in? Gamemaker Studio?

>>181412830
forgot your name googs

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>>181412479
>bimonthly
what the fuck is English

>>181412479
every month = 12 times a year
every two months = 6 times a year
every three months = 4 times a year
every four months = 3 times a year
every six months = 2 times a year

are you dum?

>>181412830
Godot comes with a plethora of GUI elements that are skinned easily.

>>181412890
you didn't disagree with him

>>181412890
>are you dum?
I dunno, r u? What are you trying to say with your post?

Arrowpit :

The 3 characters concept is interesting but the game feels buggy at the moment. The shield character was moving without me pressing any keys and the game crashed in less than 30 seconds. Iron out your bugs. Also the control scheme feels kinda cramped. Is there supposed to be 3 people on the same keyboard or you control all 3 characters by yourself?

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Feedback on this announcement trailer, the music specifically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJDi3E9u1jc&feature=youtu.be

>>181412984
>>181412989
>Now what happens when you add another month between the two I mentioned first?
you can't add a month between every two months and every three months

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>>181413037
>add a month to two others
>suddenly three months
Witchcraft!

Bi monthly means twice a month

Get the fuck out of here

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>>181412830
that sounds fun

>>181413121
see
>>181412889

Please don't act stupid after the solution has already been posted.

>>181413147
I'm making it more for me than for other people.

>>181412830
You should ask Googem about advice, he's great at not making games.

>>181413035
The title says RTS, but the trailer says !System Shock.

Why does the quality differ between the editor and the build that I run in my browser ?

>artist responded with one word sentences, complete disinterest in my project despite contacting me
>release new footage of my game
>he comes crawling back after I didn't bother replying to him for a week

fuck I hate people. I give detailed info to this guy about my project, what I want, etc and his replies are "nice". So I drop him. Now he wants back in that my shit looks good. Fuck that, onto someone who will actually put in effort

>>181413225
Release builds don't have diagnostics and debug bloat attached to them.

>>181412830
unity has excellent UI stuff if you need to make complicated stuff, and if you want REALLY REALLY complicated menu functions then maybe even consider html5/js webdev stuff since thats what theyre made for....
otherwise anything will do.

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>>181413225

Pic related

>>181411398
Thanks for the feedback. I explained my plans a bit in this earlier post if you're curious >>181392026

Not sure if I should increase speed on the rapier attacks further, since I thought I made them fast already.


>I've done a video on Spear Combat Principles.

Really nice, thanks. Just a question out of curiousity: How much of this is Eastern style? When I saw the part where the left leg is raised before thrusting, it kind of looked like Chinese martial arts

>>181413263
All artists are whores and need to be treated as such.

>>181413035
Basically
>>181413218
People are going to assume a Dead SpaceShock type of game.
That was also a non-trailer by the way.
Show some actual gameplay anything but fucking corridors. Reminded me of a shitty AAA announcement trailer in a bad way.

>>181413276
>>181413301

Hmm I made it look a bit better by changing the resolution of the light in my scene. But still it has that shadowy/see through effect in the browser.

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>>181413035
The most glaring issue is the green bar at the bottom.

The music is nice but maybe a bit too repetitive? I feel like it should evolve into something more elaborate. I'm not a music guy though.

The camera shots "tell" the same thing again and again, it's not interesting enough. You should move on in the trailer.

Also I'm not really fond of the text on the bottom left. It feel too straight out of photoshop. Add some subtle distortion effects, maybe make it a bit glowing. Take a look at the computer screens in Fallout 3, they did that pretty well.

With some polishing, it should be good though. Take everything I said with a grain of salt because I don't know anything and I've never made a trailer.

Unity or Unreal?

No games. Just want to play with inputs and math and physics alone.

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>>181408778
why are you abusing pixel dithering?

>>181413609
That looks worse.

>>181413609
>>181413680
better without dithering imo

>>181413609
I agree this looks better

>>181412469
I will focus on killing more enemies then. I think I have been killing snakes and weasels and avoiding everything else.

>>181411379
Still blows my mind to see people using @ symbols to reply. Do you not have the > key on your keyboard, or the ability to click on the post number? I'm in a good mood, so I won't grill you, but giving people shit without even knowing the fucking basics is about as retarded as it gets.

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>>181412250

Thanks.

>>181413360
> How much of this is Eastern style? When I saw the part where the left leg is raised before thrusting, it kind of looked like Chinese martial arts.

Eastern or western style is a misnomer, there are only two kinds of martial arts, those that work and those that don't. Raising the leg is part of a counter-thrust or cut. That being said, I have not seen those kinds of techniques in western martial arts manuals, though they are prominent in Indian, Chinese and Japanese martial arts.

Most of my training is in Eastern Martial arts, but aside from small points (which I personally think are lost in time/translation), eastern and western martial arts are pretty much the same.

>>181413218

Thanks, that is what we were going for.

>>181413380

Yeah, we are calling it an announcement trailer. We are working on some gameplay trailers at the moment.

@181414240
you need to go to more boards.
@posting is essentially saging a post to express its low quality.

>>181414465
>ultra (You)
woah thanks

>>181409159
>>181409491
I might just actually buy one to support you.
ETA of release?

>>181414240
It's specifically done to deny the OP precious (You)s and happens ~twice a thread. So welcome to agdg, I guess.

what's the optimal spot for ads?

ive been working on a shitty little chess game

should i place a ad right before the game starts for optimal skekels?

>>181414552
>chess game
>ads
why?
you should only be putting ads on games that are worth putting them on.

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>>181413921
Just don't get hit by enemies and you'll be fine.

Using unity trying to make a dungeon crawler, how do I make the movement only go one step at a time?

>>181414549
Well, the more you know. I've been here for years and I always assumed it was either typical summerfags or some weird yugoslavian keyboard issue.

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>>181414243
i bet she has nice abs

>>181414761
The fuck does one step at a time mean?

>>181414840
Like dungeon crawlers, you move in a grid based fasion, I can't figure out how to do that

>>181414840
Grid based movement.

>>181414549
Plus shitposters like to use it to circumvent the recursive hiding feature of 4chanx etc.

>>181414543
Thanks!
I don't know how long the review process takes, i started it yesterday.
I'll announce it on brummerke.tumblr.com

>>181414902
After the player does anything that advances ingame time, loop through the npcs and make them take one step.

>>181415017
Enjoy that massive slowdown.

What tools do you use for the planning and design phase aggydaggy?

>>181414912
>>181414902
>>181414761
Not bullying, but i'm sure theres like a hundred solutions out there already for the unity, just google it

>>181414902
Key Press initiates movement.

So if each of your grid tiles is 32x32 pixels, pressing Up would initiate movement to move 32 pixels up, you can use LERP for nice fluid movement.

During the movement, you don't take any input from the player, so he can't move until it finishes.

Once the 32 pixels are traversed, you check for key input again and do it all over again.

>>181415103
I'm figuring they are going for turn-based. If you compute everything in one frame, you are doing it wrong.

>>181415106
it's spelled ageedeegee

>>181414761
Do you mean like Pokemon grid based movement or npcs only move to the next square when you do, sorta real time strategy shit?

>>181415106
bought articy draft when it had the flash sale
>>181415207
If youve ever played CIV, you should realize how bad of an idea that is.

>>181414761
>>181414902
are you talking about the turns or the actual movement? you couldnt mean the turns, thats simply
>turn +=1;
when you do something.

>>181415103
>>181415017
Could just have a singleton set-up, where you just have a static singleton "int time", so if the player or something else advances the time, you could set it up so that all entities that rely on time will update.
You could do this either just by having "int time" in each of those scripts, and then if "time != static singleton time, then <do action>"
or you could do use other methods, like events (subscribing methods to the static singleton OnTimeChange) for example.

>>181415106
>on squeezysqueegee
>design
Ideaguys, get out!

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Been working on a level hub. The idea is each world gets a floor, and the farther you get in the game the higher you go. The planet is world cake and your going up on its layers.

Boku's house/village is at the top, while the storm is what sent boku flying and crashing at the bottom layer since he fell asleep outside on accident.

I hope you realise that there's no such thing as turn based or real time games.

All games are turn based, it's just that in "real time" games, the turns last milliseconds.

>>181415217
not the way those chicks some anon wasted their money on say it.

>>181415103
AGDG is a general for game developers.
>>>/v/

>>181415291
kind of bland to be honest

>googum is the "not gamedev" shitposter

>>181415291
Pretty shit desu.

You should steal from Mario more and make the map like the ones in Mario Galaxy.

>>181415298
The technical backgrounds are irrelevant when talking about design.

>>181415456
Design isn't game development so you can eff off.

>>181415289
>squeezysqueegee
what?

>>181415289
>Ideaguys, get out!
stop being antagonistic. And I'm not an idea guy, I'm a programmer. But After I start, I struggle to continue. I've worked in big teams, and I really enjoyed having it all thought out for me. Having a design I can follow, and having all my tasks (at least an overview) in a place where I can see them.

So I need to focus more on being an idea guy, and design the game, make a GOOD GDD, and start separating all the tasks I need for the game.

>>181415291
the idea on paper sounds good, but like the other guy said, it seems kind of bland when I see the video.
Maybe the idea is still sound, but it needs a different way to visualise it.

>>181415291
did you get your kickstarter money yet?
maybe you could pay for a graphic designer to fix this ugly mess.

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>>181415506

>>181415291
Just checked, you finally reached the goal!
Congrats!
dumb nigger

>>181415542
>bokube posting his altright memes again
quit that shit already, your game is for kids

>>181410358
Based AGDG devs

>>181414761
if i remember right there was some example project roguelike in the marketplace for free where the guy moved one tile at a time. don't know for sure but check it out.

>>181415542
>>181415556
>>181415616
>>181415625
I'm very redpilled xDDD

>>181415740
>getting so triggered you reply to my post that has nothing to do with whatever you are discussing

now I remember why I stopped coming here

>>181415954
Don't forget your shitty name on your way out!

>>181415954
I'm glad you shared this with us

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Is the guy doing the gameplay impression videos during Demo Day still around?

>>181415289
That's why almost every game here is pure shit. You're the same as electronic music faggots who trashtalk music theoryfags. You're the same as programmer faggots that trashtalk UI/UX fags. But without reading a bit and learning theory, you most likely won't make a good game, and this thread is a proof of that.

>>181411398
That is a nice picture

>>181416130
Who cares? Just Like Make Game

>>181416130
where is you are game

>>181416130
Fox, I gotta tell you, these grapes are fucking delicious!

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>>181416130

Now that the dust has settled, who won DD15?

>>181408334
>I'm currently playing on a shitty laptop because my main rig's hdd, died and I'm having performance issues there. Game seems to run fine, but the controls feel laggy and I can't see my own bullets, so I can't give proper feedback. But I can notice how much work you have put on it since the last demo, and that's amazing. Keep it up!

Thanks! I'll definitely work on performance issues before the next DD.

>>181416503
The devs and those who had fim playing the games

>>181416503
woh and that female protagonist blaster master cybernator game still aren't up
the dust hasn't even arisen yet

>>181416503
Gaming.

>>181416130
The problem with /agdg/ is that theres a lot of people here that simply dont like video games and think you can make them without enjoying them.

>cue all the rationalization replies

>>181416503
>Dust has settled
>Only 16 games

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>>181416503
>all those non-existent demos I was looking forward to playing

>>181414646
Fuck, at least I'm really fucking close to finish it.

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>>181416503
where are they

>>181416535
Sorry about that, I honestly hate to be that guy with the shitty laptop complaining about games running bad, but as soon as I get my new hdd I'll give you proper feedback.

>>181416727
Is there a setting where you can only join when you submit something?
That would really help DD instead of all these faggots preemptively joining and then giving up 1 hour later.

>People expecting fucking demo day submissions to be performance optimized

>>181415336
Only truedevs that have gained over 100$ from their games can post itt. You know what to do now

>>181416856
demoday is a good opportunity to see if your game runs like shit only on a few or on majority of machines players might use

>want to spend 50$ on assets to juice up my game
>want to have 50$
life is pain.

i can't get a consistent idea that i want to go with, i had a tactic rpg game, learned A*, flood fill algorithm, and how to do turn based, before that i had a platformer and i learned how to make a decent movement with the usual abilities (with slopes, wall sliding and jump), now all i have is knowledge that i never put to use.

>>181417000
Are the assets tasteful?

>>181417000
How close will those $50 get you to all the assets your game needs?

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>>181416994
Can I decompile games from demo day to look at the code?

>>181417061
I'd say so.

>>181417063
It'd take me from having 70% of the assets I need to 85% of the assets I need

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good job vine nice pic

>>181417085
Lua games
but please dont, /agdg/ are pajeet-tier programmers.

>>181417000
PS patchwork assets look retarded as hell. Make sure that's not a problem.

What comes first, story or gameplay?

>>181417058
This was a stage I was at not long ago

My solution was to go back to the original idea that I had, and apply all I learned, and focus on the fun gameplay and cut the fluff.

My new version is miles better than the old version and I've even gotten the compliment "This looks like a real game".

So yeah, go back to what originally inspired you and apply what you've learned to make it way better.

>>181417178
Gameplay, unless you're making a VN or the likes.

>>181417163
>/agdg/ are pajeet-tier programmers
Speak for yourself.

>>181416971
you dont want to calculate this sorta thing based on money, i earned over 10k this year from just SIT on steam
listen to >>181417057 senpai

>>181417178
Story, unless you're making an arcade style game or the likes

>>181417232
show me some code, mang

>>181417178
games with good stories probably write them first, then do the gameplay, then fix up the story to match the gameplay's pacing. you know, that constant iteration.

>>181417206
Explain every AAA game today, then.

>>181417238
Arent you breaking Steam's NDA?
>>181417293
Failed hollywood writers.

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>>181417274
Here you go, mahdude.

>>181417339
i never read the fine print so i wouldnt know
cant legally mandate me to give a shit.

>>181417404
Carmack please

>>181417293
you are not aaa

>>181417293
I don't know. I find AAA games to have max cringeworthy stories and would be much better without them / with them out of the way.

But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

04
you could have atleast changed the 4chan filename

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any good guides out there for making 64-bit/N64/PSX-like stuff in 3D Modeling programs?

>>181417465
>Omega (You)
Holy fuck, wow, nice. Thanks!

>>181417450
Did Undertale start with story or gameplay?

>>181417504
neither

>>181415291
Pretty boring looking to be honest bro.

At least make it so that its a proper cake with levels on every side. What you've got now is a amateur looking set of stairs that seems cramped and lacks any sort of personality.

>>181417504
is every aaa game undertale?

>65 not knowing about 4chanx

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>>181416727
I HAD WORK I HAD TO DO ON THE LAST THREE DAYS IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!
I was gonna use those three days to make a demo level but I was robbed of time.

>>181417572
dumb catposter

>>181417543
What does AAA have to do with Undertale? Can indies not start with story for some reason? ... I guess I forgot where I am, yeah, gonna make some metroidvania clone now, brb.

>>181417572
you had 2 months

>>181417504
Fairly certain he would have started with the idea of the morality system and built the story around that

>>181417658
>i ask a question even though i already had a very much solidified stance on it only to stir shit up
good job making /agdg/ the way it is

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Someone starting with story is a big red flag that they're a green hand that has no clue what they're doing in gamedev.

It's too easy to get into a trap of wanking over your deepest lore and never pull things in to actually making a goddamn game.

>>181417178
Unless you're making a VN or a mobile phone game, the only real way to do it is to start with both a basic gameplay concept and a basic story concept or setting then modify them as needed through development.
I'd be very hard to make even a metroidvania clone without at least having a basic concept of your character and setting before you start fleshing out character abilities and game mechanics.

People interested in the story usually go for non-interactive media, like books, movies, or VN.

>>181417786
good thing I don't know how to story and all my games are pretty much all gameplay focused

>>181417490
It's just low poly models really.

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Is it just me or when a game starts forcing story on you does your brain just start to reject it and you feel drowsy just looking at that shit?

I love reading books/VNs, but whenever games hit me with that crap I just shut down.

I have the feeling it's common, but, maybe I just have a weird mental hangup.

Pic unrelated (and fake, okay)

>>181417873
or RPG maker, got lots of storyfags making running around and talking to people games in that

>>181417490
Just very low poly models with relatively low texture resses and baked on shadows.

people like you are the reason some games have shit story

>>181417978
Depends on the game and how good the story is.
If its generic or bad i just spam through the dialogue while skimming over.

>>181418028
That's not true, if it was up to me there would be no story

>>181417978
It depends on the game and to some extend the story.

people like you are the reason Gone Homo exists

>>181417978
it's not just you, the story needs to be integrated seamlessly into the game, not cutscenes and text and shit

>>181417978
Its probably because a lot of games handle story really poorly, have terrible dialogue and exposition prose and are also very unoriginal.
If the average video game writer tried to write a book or tv episode they would get laughed out of the room.

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>>181418146
so the sellout has officially begun

It's true, but I know plenty of gamers who play games because of the story. Also, some of the popular indie games of this year:
>What remains of edith finch
>Little nightmares
>Kona
>Rime
All focused on story, their gameplay was nothing special at all. Indie games aside, I don't need to name AAA games, but all those award-winning ones from the last year focused on stories, from Witcher to Uncharted etc.

I'm not sure what gamers want nowadays t b h, but from what I see, it's visuals and story first, gameplay second (unless you're some underground, hardcore "le wrong generation" gamer). Not saying story is more important, I'd rather have both original gameplay and story, but...

>>181418146
>giving in to mentally ill peoples' demands

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In RPGs you can talk with villiagers and whatnot, right? Shouldn't near on 100% of them be some sort of interesting?

When they just spout boring "realistic" crap related to their lives 90% of the time, how is that even worth having? Fuck.

>>181418198
>he doesn't want femfight knight porn

>>181418130
I like the Tales of series way of doing things, cutscenes with optional dialogues that expand on the characters/lore, especially when compared to like Mass Effect where the game just dumps everything into a codex you never open.

>>181418223
>>181418146
>giving in to mentally ill people's demands when they're an extreme minority of the population

>Kojima BTFO

>>181418204
Roguelites and all those PUBG type things would beg to differ.

>>181418204
>it's visuals and story first, gameplay second (unless you're some underground, hardcore "le wrong generation" gamer)
If a game is not fun to play, I won't give a crap about it. Visuals and story are icing. No memes about it.

>>181418198
>>181418253
>>181418279
desu, it seems like hes just doing the hollow PR response for good measure.

Still, id just ignore them all.

>>181418204
Same, I've even finished game I thought were boring and downright frustrating to play because I enjoyed story, worldbuilding, music and tone etc. But you have to do these things VERY well for them to make that much of a difference.

>>181418460
Yeah. I imagine non-commital pandering of that sort would have a net positive effect, though small.

No one's going to blow up and skip on it because there's no gender references in the game.

>>181418349
>acting like a special snowflake

>>181418460
I would have said "sorry, Fight Knight is a man. If you want to play as a female, wait for the sequel Hardcore Whore :^)"

>>181418232
It's cool when they just say random stuff about the area you're in, maybe dropping some hints about nearby areas or giving you general tips. That's what makes them useful. An NPC shouldn't be telling you their life story the first time you talk.

>>181418563
That's how you generate publicity.

>>181418535
>the most common possible attitude that exists
>"special snowflake"
okay

>>181417786
You can't do a game where gameplay and storytelling mix without setting up the story first.
How the fuck do you know a game mechanic fits into the story if you don't have a story...
I agree you don't need to craft a 500-pages essay into the story of elf rape but you need the key points of the story at least.

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>>181418146
>I don't think there's anything in the game that makes a reference to the player character's gender
>The protagonist is a buff guy

Lets play a game:
Now true is false
Now false is true
https://streamable.com/6zfzt

Thx Unity!

>>181418635
sorry i didnt realize you were just delusional

>>181418645
You can make an excellent story in any setting. The gameplay can guide your writing after it's already decided.

No need to convolute your gameplay around a story that you stubbornly want to stick to.

>>181418703
DID YOU JUST ASSUME XER GENDER?
CIS SCUM SHITLORD FUCKING DELETE YOURSELF, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE
STOP RAPING ME

>>181418727
I'm sorry did you have an argument?

>>181410871
how much is 300 bethesda bucks

>>181418847
1BB buys you a copy of Skyrim
You do the math

>>181418704
>(A < B) == true
>(A > B) == false
Where is your problem?

>>181418847
thats the trick, corporation runs the currency so they can easily devalue it.
it could be 1bb=1usd today and then 1bb=0.00000001usd tomorrow
i intend to do the same

>>181418780
first you must accept reality then we can have an argument

>>181418847
Around 3 GBP.

>>181419036
>no
Okay then.

>>181419019
you need customers first googay

>each added cloth object in unity drops my fps by 300
whoever told me cloth sims are lightweight is a dirty fucking liar.

>>181419036
Pretty pathetic tbhwyf.

>>181419101
how many googbux can i put your down for?

Everyone knows Dead Or Alive is played for the deep lore.

>>181419104
You dullard
You're supposed to bake the cloth physics into an animation

>>181416503

It's not over yet

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post yfw you're not gookcoal.pro

>>181419632
did you mean gaycum.bro ?

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Progress report: Drew some more shit. Here's everything I've got. Still no gameplay in sight since I'm a big dumb baby.

>>181419942
make gameplay

>>181419379
i can't find a way to without it looking like shit if it's attached to a character. unless you bake every possible rotation speed but that's ridiculous.

>>181420047
Good idea.

>>181419942
Gonna be honest with you. Row 1 column 3 is the only one that looks appropriate for this style.

>>181419942
The fuck is this, 2D Saints Row?

>>181419942
>that pompadour dude
>the slav squat guy

Holy shit these are great

>>181419942
stick in no neck chicken back

>>181418146
>>181418460
>>181418563

If you use the power of reading comprehension b said nothing and Cooke says lad.

Tumblrbaited.

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>>181420113
3D

So afaict people think my game is competently made but nobody is remotely interested in the premise

>>181420290
post it

>>181408421
why don't you just develop android games then, anon? you can code in java and you got a fuckhuge installbase.

a game where you have to strategically place post it notes in a room

>>181420323
it's in the demoday

>>181420405
Memento: The Game
if you dont leave the right information for yourself you end up warping to something completely different

>>181420190
lol what year is it that you have those walls

>>181420469
i know which game and i think you think too highly of yourself

>day 4 of trying to figure out my story, based on gameplay
Whoever said "it's easy to create a story and setting when you have a gameplay" is lying
>"You're just not good enough"
N-NO YOU!

When I have a story, at least I have an infinite amount of gameplay possibilites, but once I have a core gameplay and some rules that don't have much logical sense in real world, it's fucking hard to make up something coherent that would fit with the game mechanics.

>>181420920
So what do you have?

>>181420920
>rules that don't have much logical sense in real world
it's magic
or
it's future technology

haven't visited this place since neon skull died, any cool new stuff you guys made?

>>181420920
>make 2d generic game
>???
>profit
>laugh at gumgem
>hire idea guy
there

>>181420862
That's probably fair
it doesn't help me figure out what the next step is for my game tho

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Now that the dust is starting to settle oh the kickstarter how do you feel about Bokube er bokudev?

>>181420920
>Whoever said "it's easy to create a story and setting when you have a gameplay" is lying

it's almost as if gamedev was a holistic pursuit and all the people writing shit like "atmosphere > gameplay = graphics * 2 > story^(-5)" were just /v/ retards shitposting

>>181420754
Eh that's just basic testing. the walls are 3D models not just rectangles.

That said the end product won't be much more involved. Some basic decor like vines and shit, walls of different heights, but still mostly flat.

>>181421245
Literally a failure after the Knight game kickstarter.

>>181421245
I feel respect due to him being more successful than me

>>181420137
>he remembers that shit

>>181421358
t. googem

>>181418898
Look at it again

>if (true) continue
but it does not execute continue

>>181420190
Is that true 3D or "just" raycasting?

>>181421356
WHo says a push block puzzle game kickstarter is competing with a pixel dungeon crawler kickstarter? They both succeeded.

>>181421245
Good for him, I don't care though. I have better things to do than to dislike someone for no reason, unlike some of you guys.

>>181421245
he has a decent game but nobody outside of agdg seems to care
this is a legit problem

>>181421402
I'm not him desu, am I supposed to hate on him or something? I don't get this thread

>>181421442
Was all the backers 4chan and agdg? Isn't agdg suppose to be broke nodevs?