Best and most honest neutral edition.
Expansion is out.
You can buy a Seer's Globe for 5000 vials (1 time only)
NEW EXPANSION: WONDERLAND DREAMS
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OFFICIAL SITE IS UP
NEW GRAND MASTER RANK
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NERFS ARE UP
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance?announce_id=295
>The Shadowcraft follower Shadow Reaper will cost 3 instead of 2.
>The bronze Neutral amulet Test of Strength will now have the effect "Countdown (2) All followers that come into play gain Ward until this amulet leaves play." This will replace the current effect, "Leaders cannot be attacked if there is a follower that can be attacked in their area."
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Cycled: >>181358448
Sleep well Elf.
>>181380527
Unica chan and din don are truly the best,
How do I beat elite 2 Erika? I've been trying for hours.
>tfw can't hate Alice even if she's cancer because Ayane Sakura is such a damn good voice actor
Grinding has gotten way more difficult since Blood took over Sword's neutral cancer spot. They only need to hit you once and you're already in Spawn range.
Should I Seer's Globe AE or Roach? They both carry the class so hard I can't not use it on one of them.
Also I've tested my deck again and Lilac won out, the card is great at stalling aggro and making favorable evolves. Aerin is good, but because Lilac was better than her, I'm running the Elf Queen again since 1x her is way better than 1x Aerin. But now I'm wondering about Flower Princess, since she hasn't been doing all that much work and is often clunky to play around since she causes overdraw a lot. Do I replace with Snowfield, a different card, or not at all?
>>181380630
pepe
>>181380630
cute
>>181380630
yeah the dyke ai is bullshit, just reroll until you manage to get a good curve
>turn 6 spawn is fucking cancer
>tfw they'll just hit Bapho
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY BAPHO MASTEMA/TEMPTRESS MEMES
FUCK YOU KMR FOR MAKING LELAMBUSH DOUBLE DAMAGE
Code cracker here. How do you guys like the upcoming prebuilts?
>>181380757
Give me a list. I've tried with it but I still get shit on.
>>181380621
I like Unica but she's a pretty egregious instance of powercreep.
>>181380689
Is there anywhere to look what cards are voiced by who?
>>181380630
play sword
>/svg/ predicted BKB, Emeralda and Spawn would be busted cards
>they're actually busted
Guess even /svg/ can recognize absurdly strong card if they slap you in the face with it.
What went through the card designers mind when they were making them?
>>181380903
shadowverse portal > change language to japanese
>>181380871
bretty decent overall, thing is it was announced too late
>>181380815
Anon are u ok?
>>181380894
I like her. She keeps me safe.
>>181380903
I wanna suck Vampy's saliva all day
>>181380871
But there is no new prebuilt banner. Never ever.
>>181380749
Seer's globe Alice.
>>181380932
KMR really wants cblood to work at the expense of everyone else.
Play Bloodcraft.
>>181380871
Give me a link to the lists.
Should I be running Themis in Garuda Haven?
>>181380527
Alice > Ringon
Alice never bullied Fighter-kun
>>181380875
x3 pepe
x3 fencer and everything that buffs him
x3 cyclone blade and all other removals (barring art of ninja)
any wards you may have
>>181380871
I like forest. You can guess how I feel.
Did forest actually get worse with this expansion?
>>181380871
Guaranteed Nep is breddy gud.
>>181380903
Portal has them I think. Alice is just immediately recognizable.
>survive havens goblin>lyrial>goblin leader>alice
>come back bm him at 14hp and he quits
Thank you anon who asked me to test storm ramp in ranked
>>181380932
Who knows. I think Spawn was only supposed to have like 2-3 abilities out of the 4 but then they shipped it with all 4 cause they forgot.
>>181381006I play sword too so I might
>>181380630
elite 1 is stronger
an aggro deck of any kind does the job, aggro blood should be the cheapest
>>181379579
>tfw dusted my dark jeanne at the beginning of totg
>>181381030
personally I run 2x dark john, 1x themis and 2x ageis just to secure the lategame.
YOU'RE FINE NOW!!
>>181380527
>neutralcraft expansion
>nobody playing Bellringer or Fighter
This is how you know Cygames dropped the ball.
>>181380932
Spawn was definitely created when Lightning Blast was still working as intended. They obviously forgot to go back to the design files.
do not vial this guy, he is sleeper good just like shadow reaper in RoB
he easily 3 for 1s with manual evo and if your opponent doesnt want to kill him the value he generates with free evos just snowballs out of control
>tfw no Wakamoto card
>>181381312
>he is sleeper good
I see what you did there.
>>181381282
goblin was better than fighter like forever
>>181381068
What else should I do? I'm poor so no legos.
>mfw disco death lasers from an awakened abomination
that was actually pretty cool. reminded me of mithril golem's fanfare.
>>181381415
replace royal banner with well of destiny
>>181381028
Knock yourself out.
>>181381091
I was scratching my head as I deciphered it. I got no idea what the fuck they were thinking.
>>181381402
That's why Goblin being used doesn't count.
>>181381430
How good a legendary is seems to be inversely proportionate to how cool their entrance is.Bahamut is a special case where its badness is in how it affects the game.
Alice pleases dirty goblins for wins!
>>181381415
Remove centaur, grimnir, maid, banner
Get well of destiny, palace fencer, fencer and if you have frontlines.
>>181381415
Turn back time to ToG
>Update game
>All music disappears
>Uninstall/reinstall game
>Music is still gone
??????
What do I do???
>>181381580
there is no date, right?
>>181381415
try palace fencer, fencer and keen enchantment
20547, 12/20, passing.. so face me! pun intended
>>181381693
I'm not going to ladder with this I'm just trying to make a deck to beat AI.
>>181381626
uhh eachtar, ageis, oroboros, bahamut, and nepthys are all counterexamples to this. Not currently meta but all playable or very good during their release expac.
>love blood
>love vampy
>never get blood legos
Should i kill myself now?
How's the ladder right now?
>lots of legggos
>only one animated is beaty and the beast
feels really bad mang
>>181381894
uhh what is this monstrosity you're building? It looks horrible
>>181381925
Bloodsuckers everywhere
>>181381814
Ah. Do what >>181381675 says.You're really just conceding until it bricks a bit anyway.
>>181381925
Alice and gang all day.
>>181381715
PLZ HALP
I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE NEW SINGLE PLAYER CAMPAIGNS WITHOUT THE ANIME MUSIC
>>181381925
Blood, sword and hags
Should i add valkyrie spear or well of destiny somewhere? i wanna use this to win my dailies with any craft
>>181382020did you check the volume of the music ingame?
>>181381989
>>181382002
>>181382094
Even with the nipon neets asleep? I guess I'll climb later then. I'm down to my last 500 to masters, don't want to risk it.
>>181382020
Turn up the volume.
>>181381775
13/20 thanks Japanese guy
>>181381894
>Laura
stop that
Thanks for all the advice on the frog craft deck. I finally beat that dyke cunt! Have some titties as thanks.
>>181382124
>>181382151
Yeah, they're both on, and all the other sounds still work, all the sound effects and voices are there, it's literally only the music that's disappeared.
>>181382094
>blood, sword and trampy
???
>>181381715
>>181382020
On what device are you playing? If on Windows, did you check the Volume Mixer?
How important is cinderella in neutral sword?
>>181381894
>control blood
Stop falling for this meme
>>181382242
Android.
I need pictures of Shadowverse girls wearing pantyhose
>>181381894
Just go Neutral Blood. Its the hot shit right now.
>threw a game because I wanted to try winning with Anomaly
I can't win against the desire to meme
>>181381775
14/20 thanks another Japanese guy
>>181381095
Forest at least filled a niche last expac with roach combos. Now roach is too slow and forest's neutral shit is kind of boring and not that strong.
>>181382257
Define important. If you're desperately low on dust, the only thing absolutely required is Alice.
>>181382380
man that's such a stupid outfit
>>181382410
does it need spawn? i have seen lists without it but i doubt they are better than neutral sword
>>181381580
>grimnir is shoved into dragon
wew lad, it's as if the devs knew
>>181381580
Holy shit they really want to shit on Forest do they?
>>181381580
ACTUALLY SELLING ANOMALY FOR MONEY LMAO
>>181382257
Well it's either her or you use Grimnir/Angel Knight. Turn 3 is goblin country if you don't drop her.
>>181382465
As in is it the best 3drop available or is just an option.
>>181382257
alice, maisy and Cock are more important but cinderalla is really good
>>181382380
>>181382410
What do you mean?
When you say "neutral blood" is my brain supposed to magically know exactly what 40 cards i must use in a deck?
I fucking hate you all
>>181381626
Bahamut's probably one of the best entrances I've ever seen in a video game.
>that fucking swoop before the explosion
have they hid the august/september sleeves better for this time?
>>181381775
15/20 thanks numbers guy
>>181382505
We must pay for the sins of Roach and AE.
>>181382462
Roach was way worse last expansion. When 50% of the decks you're facing are playing Death's Breath or Spiderweb Imp it was impossible to win. It's like fine now.
>>181382621
Neutral Shell + Bapho + Spawn. That's the deck.
>>181382098
>"I want an aggro deck of 40 neutral cards to do my dailies"
>puts 2 2pp drops
Cut some of those extraneous 3-drops and Ephemera for Unica, a third Goblin Leader, and either Valkyrie Spears or some 2pp removal from whatever class you're fucking around with
WHERE ARE MY TOP 10K PACKS REEEEEEEEEE
When did they add the mulligan to the battle log? I don't remember reading about it on the patch notes.
>>181381271
deck? mine's really slow in the beginning
>>181382476
Yeah but fuck if it doesn't make me want to smell her butt.
>>181382590
Gob leader is best drop for turn 3 if you get to curve to Alice.
>>181382380
>mfw i think about the spine
>try to use the new dragon meme cards
>get assraped by neutral aggro
>put more wards and removals
>still lose
>say fuck it and use my last expac ramp deck, remove rahab and add sieg
>winning with ease
This expac brought nothing for dragon.
>>181382621
Aggro Neutral Shell + Tove, BKB, Baphomet, 2x Spawn, plus filler burn/removal/1pp cards til you reach a full deck
I always wondered where the First Farer flair came from, anyone knows?
>>181382621
Basically its all 40 cards that make up neutral blood. You know the cards.
>>181382410
Is kys blood a meme now?
>>181382851
Not going full neutral meme with Aina and gryph rider.
>>181382868
The one you start with.
>>181382710
np. welcome to shadowverse
>>181382345
I don't know. Try clearing app cache, turning the device off and on. If nothing of that works, report the bug to Cygames.
>>181381894
>love vampy
fuck off discordpedo
Can I get a concede?
68440
>neutral aggro sword ends up being tier 2
>neutral haven tier 1.5
>Dirt tier 2
>control blood is a meme that people still fall for
>Midrange Blood ends up being best like anyone with a brain could predict
>neutral midrange blood is the sole tier 1 class in the game
>neutral forest is even worse than fucking neutral shadow and neutral dragon
Who would've thought when you printed a bunch of insane cards for a single class they would end up powerful?
>blood mirrors are even worse than shadow mirrors because of enhanced baphomet garbage and spawn auto-wins
Time to dump this game after the first month like last expansion.
>>181382956
The moment you drop ouroboros you can hear the neutral memers cry. Ramp is just better now that eachtar isn't around.
Anyone else notice most of TotG's legendaries got powercreped out of existence? There's no reason to use shit like Belphegor and Aegis anymore and stuff like Desert Rider and Ginger that people swore would get support never saw the light of day.
There's no meme 2 drop this xpac, WD sucks
Vengeance blood is still good though.
How do I get people to let me win as forest in unranked? Beg them?
>Make cancer Blood
>Instant 10 game streak
Game's over, everyone can move on. It's not recovering this time.
>>181383221
Thanks Isabelle~
>>181383240
cool personal tier lists dude
>>181382956
You get fucked with no draw
>>181383485
>use corpselord emblem
>use PLZ HELP flair
>rename to "Let me win"
Can someone give me a Lion deck? I just need a basis really.
>>181383485
git gud
>>181383606
What the fuck. Theres a reason to pull Corpselord now.
>>181383284
No. And you named the only 2 leggos that are seeing less/no use because they got more powerful leggos this expac. Snow white, lion and spawn
>>181383673
Post dick.
>>181383606
>have 6 1pp cards, 15 2pp cards, 3 halo golems, 3 mage of nightfall
>didn't draw any of them in the first 5 turns 3 games in a row
just kill me now
>>181383240
B-But that one shitty Neutral Forest deck that japs claim had a 70% win rate!
So neutral forest is basically if you don't get ETA in the first three turns you lose
>>181383505
You realize you can look at ranked wins by class already.
All the people who hit grandmaster are playing neutral midrange blood
>>181383673
Give the deck. Need my dailies.
>>181383485
change your name to リタイアお願いします and hang until the opponent concedes
>>181383785
>not doing dailies with a full neutral deck
>>181380527
How does everyone have 3 fucking alice? Is there some giveaway I missed?
>Juno's Lab is not a correct translation
>the person named in the card is actually Nono
>Juno doesn't exist
>>181383673
>hiding rank
>>181383725
>>181383785
It's the one at the top of the thread. It's like OK.
>>181383853
Give me a full neutral deck then.
concede please
55781
>>181383673
please show dick
>>181383735
>>181383606
>pull an entire set of Corpselords
>>181383923
thanks
What the fuck is this expansion? Is like my luck has decreased...no matter what I play they already have a response ready.
So I take it that you need to craft 3X Alice to be remotely competitive in the current meta?
Someone give me a Neutral Lion deck.
Every game feels like a fucking take two match.
Settle the meta already.
>>181383915
here is the right one
fucking 4chan makes you wait forever to delete a post
>>181384107
Maybe someone will find something crazy in a month, but it kind of feels that way right now.
>>181384107
Shadow and Dragon apparently do pretty fine with updated versions of their old lists.
>>181384107
Yup
The upside is that you can use the same literal deck with every class, so no much risk there
>>181384152
Hard to settle yet because now Control is showing up a fuck lot.
That's why this expac is better than ToG. In ToG you already knew what it was in the first 3 days. Right now everything is still shifting.
>>181384114
I've been looking all day. Like wtf where are the netdicks?
>>181384107
Dirt doesn't play Neutrals
>DCed
Faggot.
>>181381349
I never understood why people obsess over VA celebrities this much. They're all disposable and replaceable.
>>181384395
i personally don't even play with sound whatsoever
>>181384395
Everything is, for that matter.
>>181381580
>magical big guy deck
>its just Daria with hulking giant and 3 (three) earth rites gained by dwarf
T-thanks cygames...
>>181384327
At first I thought the pic was a mannequin. What movie is this from?
>>181384368
What happened the turn before that allowed you to survive?
>>181384395
>They're all disposable and replaceable.
So are you.
>>181384471
Yeah, same. I just listen to audiobooks or watch videos between turns.
>>181384491
>>181384595
Dark. I think maybe 1 in 100,000 people might be legit genius tier irreplaceable assets. But with Japan's population, I bet they have a lot of talent willing to fill in for positions.
>>181384335
>complaining about Neutral Sword
How to spot an A rank.
>tfw can't win with midshadow now
Based cygays, they outdid themselves every expansion, I can't wait for next expansion with more powercreeped cheap removals to deal with the current overstatted shit cancer.
>>181384595
woah.......rly....made....me....think
>>181384590
>Healed while in vengeance
>Played 2 (two) Abyss in the same turn
>Rekt
>>181384471
If the fuckers over at Cygames could replace the annoying main menu music, I wouldn't need to keep lowering the fucking volume everytime I play
>>181384649
>defending Neutral Sword
How to spot an Alice bandwagoner
I pulled 3 Beauty and the Beasts, is forest straight garbage or did I get really lucky?
>>181384698
Play best girl instead.
>>181384698
just play neutral sha... hahaha
>>181384753
Their volume slider are wonky too, it's either loud as fuck at max or slightly less loud as fuck at min.
>>181384763
Nothing is unplayable just by the nature of the expansion
>>181384649
Its okay buddy, nobody is judging you for spending the vials on x3 Alice and Cinderella.
>>181384763
B&B arriet forest is pretty good. You'll need 3 of the new 2cost removal as it is amazing. Also Cindy of course.
>>181384112
there was a turn 3 4/4 back in standard
People sure hate owlcat, for some reason he is a removal magnet.
>>181384893
Cindy in forest?
>>181384870
Proof that people really will complain about absolutely anything
>>181384893
Got a list for BnB + Arriet?
>>181384850
I don't have that problem. It could be something on your end.
Playing vs neutral sword with Dshift is nerve wrecking.
>>181385030
I meant Alice, not Cin dome
NERF FUCKING ANOMALY
>>181384763
>tfw i pulled 3 fairy dragon
>>181384763
Too inconsistent.
should i craft 2 cinderellas for neutral sword or 2 spawns for neutral blood?
>>181384763
ETA is crazy good and roach still does roach things. It's below average, but not that bad.
>PIKA PIKA PIK
>PIKA GOBBU!
>>181384763
>haha check out my turn 6 Aegis that easily gets run over that I had to play shitty cards for
Meme
>>181382380
>shadowverse
>>181385309
>switch to japanese voices
>VAMPY CHAN HAS AUTISM CHAN DESU NE CHAN :-D
>NIGGER NIGGER GOBU(?) Dx
>TEEHEE SUGOI SUGOI : 3
>G-GAMBARIMASU >W<
God this shit is cancer
How does this look? Everything but Vampy came from packs.
>2 expansions after RoB and forest is still crutching on Roach
Will forest ever have any non roach competitive decks?
>>181385339
If neutral sword is unbeatable, it would be the dominant deck in rank, but it isn't.
>>181385534
Don't reply to autists.
Man, I'm loving Ephemera's animated card
Fucking autism
Ginger is literally the only legendary I haven't seen in action
>>181385573
i just dusted one lol, it seemed dully animated to me
TWO COUNT EM
TWO WHOLE WINS IN A ROW AT
>MASTER RANK
GONNA HAVE THOSE GM BRAGGING RIGHTS THIS FUCKING FRIDAY
>>181385439
>veight
>yurius
>>181385439
not very good, it lacks storm
>sword starts the engine
>play twin elf assault
>they concede
good balance
>>181385060
Heres a deck code, its not perfect and requires a lot of legendaries but I think its pretty good.bqru
>>181385708
>Reported.
lol
>>181385708
Anon, announcing reports is against the rules.
How long does it usually take for Master's rewards to come out?
>>181385651
The light rays and how they illuminate her look really good
>>181385927
A few days. Be patient.
>>181385579
>all blood
Nice game
>>181385516
Forest doesn't even have a competitive deck, and they didn't have one last expansion
>>181385965
but i heard it's neutral sword who is the queen
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHA SLACKER ALBERT OTK
>>181385701
Are they bad now? This was made from an old aggro bat deck.
>>181385732
Should I go with imp lancer or dark general?
>>181385579
I don't get it, did Cygames actually think Grand Master was going to be something? It's week 1 and already it's a joke, just make neutral blood and collect your free bragging rights.
>>181386031
im convinced all the shitposting from the threas is coming from dykeniggers
>>181386124
neutral blood with or without spawn?
>>181386031
>didn't get levi'd
>didn't get mutagenic
He bricked. Whoa
>>181386136
Wouldn't be surprised. Sword is most popular craft here iirc
One good thing about this expansion? Dshit can't compete.
>>181386136
But sword is dudecraft and everyone here wanted albert leader
>>181386175
The first two to 10k ran 2 Spawn.
>>181386238
Citation needed
>>181386214
People will still play Dshift, I'm convinced those autists won't ever play anything else.
>>181386238
>dudecraft
>wanting a husbando leader
>>181386269
is there a way to check their decks?
>>181386183
wasted two levis on my cocks and luminous
>>181386327
https://twitter.com/hosidora_payato/status/881229981807820800
https://twitter.com/crowd_sv/status/881229368307007488
>>181386238
dont talk shit about biribiri, swordniggers are a different matter
i will only play sword whenever they release the leader
Haven't played since dragonmemers and lunaniggers ruined totg. Are they still T1?
>>181386214
This expansion is honestly really good. It's just really obnoxious right now because you literally don't know WHAT the fuck the other guy is packing.
This game's apparently really nice when you focus on trading intelligently instead of just stalling for some bullshit wincon.
>>181386124
>did Cygames actually think Grand Master was going to be something?
No. It's just something they designed to occupy players who take this game too seriously and waste so much time playing it. They know full well a casual card game can't really be competitive.
Imagine, you're one of the design team members in Cygames' offices. There is no way you or anyone on your team actually can think that this game is serious.
>>181386439
no
its bloodniggers and swordniggers now
>>181386457
>This game's apparently really nice when you focus on trading intelligently instead of just stalling for some bullshit wincon.
Now you know why Standard's the best meta the game has ever had.
>>181386439
No.
>>181386392
thanks
>>181386503
You mean bloodsuckers and swordshitters
>>181386439
everyone but forest is t1 now
>>181386457
Well there is still some stalling for some bullshit wincon
>>181386439
Blood is the new tier 1. Shadow is in the gutter. Don't know how Dragon's faring.
>get hit by pepe > white general > cyclone blade in T2
>>181386457
>trading intelligently
>whoever drops Alice or Spawn first wins
really boggles my joggles
>>181385258
Glass tootsies.
>>181386580
When was the last time forest was good?
>>181386591
I haven't seen one top Japanese dragon players netdeck so far. Dragon has too many meme cards to test
>>181386501
It didn't even occupy time. I don't think there's any incentive for the grandmasters to play after getting it in less than a week, and seeing how utterly broken this meta is.
>>181386591
Dragon is doing well in this expansion if they arent memeing with there new cards
>>181386701
That's when the class is the most fun desu. Ramping+healing into Grimnir/Bahamut/fuck is way less interesting than seeing some meme shit.
>>181386667
rob till gobu's nerf
>>181386439
neutral shadow is bruddy gud [spoiler[]t. c3 shitter[/spoiler]
concede pls
14302
>>181386501
If it's something for players who waste time, why did they set the bar so low at 10k? I don't even play a lot and I don't realistically see myself ending the month without hitting that threshold.
>bkb
>scarlet
bloodniggers will defend this
>>181386920
discord?
Remember me?
>>181385258
Why the fuck did Cygames go through the trouble of censoring her feet?
when will they nerf yurius?
>>181386983
fuck off bloodnigger
>>181385687
Bannersword never dies
>/svg/ says cloog will be tier 0
>cblood is tier 0
how did this happen
>>181387172
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
>blood
>blood
>blood
>blood
>blood
I heard some ass saying a diverse meta.
>>181386920
>Powerful cards are only okay when they go to classes I play
>>181387084
they censored the chains not the feet
prisoners arent allowed
>>181387084
kill yourself footfag
>>181387172
It's Neutral Blood, not CBlood.
>>181387290
Broken cards aren't okay anywhere
>implying Alice is ever going to run out of cards as long as Cygames refuses to touch neutral
>thinking she isn't the unoffical neutralcraft leader
>>181386327
If you don't want Albert leader, you're a faggot.
>>181385258
what do glass's armpits smell like
>>181386781
>It didn't even occupy time.
For no-lifers, maybe. Cygames will pretty much have to adjust the goals to be somewhat higher next time since this is just the first roll-out to test with the actual player base how hard/easy it is to get.
Knowing Cygames though, they don't want to make it hard because you would actually want people to realistically be able to achieve it. They don't insult the players by making the goals bullshit because the Japanese know the value of time and in turn, value your time as well, unlike most Western devs who think it's actually acceptable to expect you to put in months of your time to get anywhere in their F2P games.
>>181387128
Hopefully never. Forcing people to kill themselves as long as they ignore him is the best.
>>181387083
I just killed you one match ago.
>>181386439
Blood, Sword are T1 with Haven (and maaaybe Jeb Rune) sitting pretty at T1.5
>>181387640
Neutral Haven is better than Neutral Sword.
G-guys it's not fair! It was my time! It was supposed to be MY WIN
The enemy was down to 3 HP but he put down Test of Strength and then Dark Alice.
>>181387715
So dump stuff on the board until it runs out
>>181387715
Happened to me once, had him on the ropes and then played that combo, tried to deck him out, but
>mfw he plays Satan
>>181387715
Just Hector bro
>>181387640
W-what tier is forest?
37289
Can I have a concede please?
>>181387989
Tier Rape Victim
>>181387989
>still with the Forest is dead meme
Neutral Roach is at very least a solid tier 2. Just fuck off already.
>>181387989
>Going first the expansion
Tell me you still can win going second.
>>181387172
It wasn't hard to predict when KMR himself said so.
>>181387512
>unlike most Western devs
They learned from Asian f2p devs, particularly the Koreans and Chinese.
>>181387989
Tier 3 or lower, roach is too slow anyone saying otherwise is retarded
>>181388073
Thank you anon.
>>181387715
>mordecai was supposed to be undisputed champion of strength after aegis 'nerf'
>got cucked again by dark alice
>>181388151
you can
just pray that they brick
>tfw you spend all three evolves on the same Corpselord
>>181387172
>cblood
It's midrange neutral you shitter.
>>181388151
2PP removal, Grimnir, 2-for-1 turn 4 evo. That's about it.
>>181388310
card that restores evolve orb for 4 shadows when
>>181388310
>>181388439
I'm almost tempted to run Deathchaser because of the synergy between her, Corpselord, and Odile.
What is the lore for Eagle Man? In Japan his evolve dialogue is literally "Eagle eagle!"
how is dark jeanne good again?
>>181387989
elf is more unplayable than ever
>>181388558
Sentai parody.
>>181388645
Play her on the turn where a bunch of your birds pop and deal a shit ton of damage.
>>181388160
>KMR is probably a vampyfag too
>>181388653
At least it won't be 4.4% again because you can just run full neutral :^)
>>181388558
His English VA lines are hilarious.
>dragoncuck d/c's because despite being at 9pp by his turn 6 and regening 10+ life he still loses due to making stupid decisions and playing a bad deck
Come the fuck on dude. I don't even want to be playing this shit. I just want this daily gone.
>>181388645
She's a 6 mana Eachtar.
>>181388770
epic eachtar play dude, keep us updated
>>181388770
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM I PLAYED EACHTAR
imo some changes that need to happen are:
Haven should be the only class given a 1 to 1 heal
Tenko should be changed to: whenever an allied follower deals damage restore 1 hp
>>181388645
Apparently able to add +1 health to your x/2 followers make her good.
Nothing is working. Not even my best memes.
>>181388365
>grimnir
You mean they ran a Unica after buffing her with alice.
>>181388653
>>181388752
>>181388879
>>181388956
>implying I had to
His animation is shorter than playing Grimnir you fags
>>181385687
post deck
>>181389007
>complaining about Elana
>>181389095
>Grimnir
Yeah, man, so much more balanced, amirite? :^)
>>181389118
I wasn't complaining I just think Haven should have a 1pp heal and Tenko is just too boring currently.
>>181389235
Yeah man I know.
Like that dick eating dragoncuck that played one at 10 enhance a whole 3 turns earlier than when he lost the game :^)
Fun game shadowbabs!
>>181389404
I can't explain this game's matchmaking to you.
You guys were right, Cthulhut is fucking stupid, broken, unfair and I love it.
>>181389038
Same. Having a hard time figuring out what to do with dragon.
Any expansion where DShift and Roach are dead and buried is a good expansion to me
>>181389531
Glad I bandwagon'd onto this for now, but for sure the cards around it are gonna get nerfed in a month.
Holy shit this meta is becoming worse than totg
>>181389404
>that baphomet emblem playing haven
Hey, that's me.
I wish they'd just make a set that buffs Forest hard, then preemptively nerf the shit out of Roach.
Tired of the little fucker single-handedly killing a class.
Who won the Nexus Tournament thing? Maybe once tournament results come in people will just flock to the winning decks and stick to Neutrals for those crafts
If they nerf fucking Baphomet instead of Spawn then this game is 100% dead
>>181389718
it doesnt even make sense to me, everyone else got tois bigger than roach anyway
>>181389718
The class is already dead in this expansion
>>181389641
No, I'm playing haven and I keep facing cthulhu decks.
Which are very balanced to say the least :^)
>>181389778
The likes of Eachtar and Albert went without nerfs, theres no way in hell spawn is getting it instead of bapho, best pack your bags now.
>>181389548
Does anyone have a top nip dragon players twitter? I wonder what the fuck the guy with the most dragon wins is using
Dead game dead general
Spawn Abyss. is . Balance
>>181389080
Just for you forestfriend.
>>181389923
just iron maiden bro
>MEZAMENASAI on turn 5
>you have no means to kill them in 2 turns
>no ward, then again esmeralda
Yeah, turn 6 howl seems tame.
yo what the fuck
>Build a meta sniping deck yesterday, win 7 in a row
>Meta today is raping me 5 games in a row
Fuck.
What happened to all of the "spawn is the new sneks" faggots?
I hope they rot in hell with the "enjoy three more months of midshadow" fuckers.
>>181390173
delete this, neutral is the cancer
>>181389923
Probably that was me anyway, sorry for that match but I was doing a "win 3 matches as bloodcraf".
>>181390173
>missed the 50/50
no justice
>>181389974
>hell spawn
Greetings from AX
Now, what should I do here?
>>181390173
I mean makeshift Tribunal is probably better that shitting out a 4/4 Do Nothing in this meta
>didn't fall for the vital everything meme
/who raining in vital here from nerf/
>baphomet will lose the enhance
That's probably the nerf.
>>181390398
Poke that guy in the Rugrats shirt in the stomach
>>181390398
talk to girls make them smile and maybe you will get a gf.
>>181390398
Ask them for 10 free packs.
>>181390398
try to take a group photo with our community heroes
>>181390446
>not sitting on 0 vials and only vial cards when you need to craft anything
>Brick all my high drops in my opening hand vs Neutral Sword who curves Feria -> Goblin Leader -> Alice -> Alice
>Win anyway
Holy shit. Rune is actually the chemo class for this expansion.
>>181390628
fuck off tumor.
>>181390398
Kill KMR, do it.
>1 month until nerfs
>>181390584
you don't need to craft something like all the time?
>say hello
>neutral sword CoCK sucker spams lines
I wouldn't even be mad if he weren't the fifth one in the last hour.
>>181390779
I always do triple hellos. What's the problem?
>dshift abomination
ayyy i got memed to death, at least the summoning was bretty gud looking
>>181390446
>vital
Pictured: Post Spawn board state
neutral sword was popularized by game-ai, but neutral blood is likely stronger
>>181390628
>taboo
3rd rate player with a 2nd rate deck
Why is Haven literally always the chemo, but never good enough?
Why is sword Hero of Antiquity not a commander? Why does cygame hate commander decks? I want to combo it with gaiwan. Its a worst fangblade at this point.
KMR isn't here but I got more photos
They're having take two tourneys to give away this stuff
>>181391049
just princess kiss bro
>>181391110
grab coco and mimi and run away bro
>>181391110
>Physical legendary for every class
>Except blood, lets give them cat
Where is my Carabosse?
Almost got me
>>181391247
>ding dong bell
>WD downpowers shadow
>no longer the bandwagon craft
Finally I can play my comfy craft.
>>181391262
>entangling vines
what the hell is your deck?please share
>>181391110
why the fuck is Cat representing WD Blood lmaoo
>>181391241
not liking cats
>>181391015
Heavy control focused class in a game with only 20hp and big bads that can either deal 10+ damage in one go or flood+buff the board.
Makes it so Haven is the only one that can survive the degenerates.
>>181391262
>Ding dong alarm clock
breddy gud
Falise and her enhance are so fucking good
>tfw this isnt even a meme deck anymore
>>181391350
he is adorable~
(CAN'T WAKE UP)
>>181391350
neither of the blood legends are thematic to the expansion
Worst meta for meme decks? Maybe Ginger is good but I don't have 30k dust for legends
>>181389718
It has nothing to do with Roach. They're just pulling the same bullshit with Forest that they used to do with Blood. They tack on a bunch of conditional effects to all of Forest's followers to make them the same power-level as everything else, just like they used to tack a bunch of vengeance shit onto all of Blood's cards. Look at this expansion now, most of the new powerful blood cards completely ignore vengeance, its new win condition especially.
All the new forest cards have a bunch of hand size requirements tacked on to them and they still aren't anywhere near as powerful as the cards other classes got. So basically neutral forest has consistency issues thanks to Cygames making their cards "fair" while every other class got stuff that was ridiculous and completely ignored their class mechanics.
Also it's a joke that forests class mechanic is now considered "hand-size" when it has poor card draw and fairies/neutrals don't mesh together at all and is far too slow for this ridiculous tempo meta where not having a turn 2 play is often insta-concede. Other classes with better control tools can barely keep up with the neutral package, let alone Forest who has some of the worst.
>>181391354
Cat's art isn't so bad, but why would they do cat instead of carabosse or spawn? It makes no sense.
>>181391592
>Wicked Fairy
>>181391110
>cerberus will never be real
>you'll never smell her sweaty musk
THICC
>>181391592
I'm pretty sure Carabosse is.
shouldn't it be "answers aren't something"?
Gruff is pretty good for T2.
>guys let's give blood a card that can deal 16 damage! make that they can tutor and cheapen the cost! lol what could go wrong?
Wonderland Dreams? More like Wonderland Nightmare
>>181390398
Kill the tranny Envy and say you sexually identify as a killer. The police won't touch you and you'll be free to go
OR
Take a pic of him after or while you throw a full cup of soda onto him so we can use it for material here
>>181391784
but it's council of club knights that's the problem with the expansion:3
>>181391761
I had a shadowbab play it on t4 then Ceridwen it t5 in Take Two. Easily the best Ceridwen play I've ever seen in that mode.
>>181391841
but envybae isn't actually that bad, except for their weird haircut
>Take a pic of him after or while you throw a full cup of soda onto him
a tsundere thing to do
I don't think I've ever played a game with such deep strategy. I feel as if my decision making in making these plays was akin to playing in high level Shogi.
>>181391841
After the meta settles, will blood be even more OP than shadow was?
>>181391336
Just neutral deck
I dont have that twins card
>>181391642
I gave up on this game a long time ago.
The devs are just making overpowered shit over and over and if you don't like the craft that is op during that rotation, tough luck.
All this game is good for now are some quick matches every once in a while. Hell, I might just switch the solo mission thing on to not play ranked/unranked.
>>181392041
Blood has an actual counter so it'll probably never hit 30% playrate
>>181392041
Than pre-nerf ToG Shadow? I don't know about that, 1-2-catacomb was outright retarded. Even Haven had a negative WR against it.
>>181391642
You should have known this would happen after a year of tossing roaches at people. Don't call it a grave knife-ears. You chose this.
>>181391983
>but envybae isn't actually that bad,
>defending the life choice of a man who is fooling himself that he can ever be a woman
Fucking kill yourself after killing him
This game lost half its playerbase in ToG, will WD fare better or worse?
>>181391869
Ended up trading him against an evolved Soul dominator, having Gruff at 5/7. He at least gives value.
>>181391841
>Take a pic of him after or while you throw a full cup of soda onto him so we can use it for material here
this please
>>181392205
What's it's counter?
>>181392030
trannylover kys
Stop whining forest babies. You already have a superior spawn that can kill in one hit.
>>181391734
Was that from wyrm god?
>>181392217
Yes, I'm sure the forest players are responsible for the atrocious balancing that has always plagued this game.
>>181392280
Rune can really fuck with Spawn. It really depends on what blood uses to get to that point, though.
>>181392386
>The original anomaly probably had Spawn's design
>It would have been balanced in Forest since they can't get it out any earlier than turn 8, and are incredibly evo dependent to stay alive until that point
So, uh, what am I supposed to be doing here? This seems very wrong.
i have just realized that it's weird, how does a wolf play cards
>>181392595
"Balanced" means "shit" in Shadowverse, this game is defined by who's doing more stupid broken shit.
>>181391592
>neutral blood decks with abyss tentacle rape aliceshitters
>>181392595
I bet original Anomeme was literally Spawn of the Abyss. They just gave it to Blood because fuck Forest I guess.
>Lion of the golden city doesn't come until turn 7
cool you came just in time to see us die, good kitty
>>181391592
>Cthulhu
>not thematically
Lovecraft just made a bunch of fairy tales about some space monsters.
So is stable? It is safe to craft shit right now?
Because I have 7k vials and I can either craft 2 Lions for neutral Haven, or 2 Cyndi for sword, I pulled 1 of eachand I pulled 4 Alice
Blood feels really underwhelming thought, was testing the deck (with carabosse) and if you don't go full curve with vengeance on t4 you pretty much can't compete with other decks.
>>181392595
>wanting balanced stuff
I really just want them to give us some Eachtar level of bullshit and print a silver or bronze to hit with a nerf afterwards.
>>181392881
original Anomaly IS the current one we have know. What you mean to say is what they would have changed it to would have been Spawn.
>alice neutralfags in unranked
How to properly use Abomination Awakened?
>>181392831
except all those decks use alice just as well
>>181393140
In the ToG interview they said the original Anomaly design was 'very different' from the one we got.
defend this dotards
>>181393290
No, the original was what we got. They changed it because it was shit, then went back to it because Timmy complained.
>>181393324
Cerb is so erotic
>>181393035
>Blood feels really underwhelming thought, was testing the deck (with carabosse) and if you don't go full curve with vengeance on t4 you pretty much can't compete with other decks.
Were you playing Vengeance Blood?
I found that Neutral Blood is as good as Neutral Sword.
>>181393324
>6PP
JUST
31874
16/20
passing :3
>>181393035
Neutral Blood is probably the best deck you can climb with right now. All the top Grandmaster players are playing a variant of Neutral Blood that abuses the Neutral Blood engine, the bullshit midrangey cards of Blood (BKB, Scarlet Sabeur, Emeralda), and also fits in Baphomet and Spawn for a wincon.
If you're aiming to win, I'd build it.
>>181393324
>turn 6
J U S T T H E M I S B R O
>>181393043
>We've gotten to a point where people just expect the game cycle to be broken legend->scapegoat broze/silver so they never have to anger the whales->repeat with a new class next set
I think I want off the ride soon.
I'm still waiting. Where the fuck is the interview for WD? I'm curious on what KMR thinks as not super strong.
So neutral blood is better than neutral sword now?
>>181393424
>BKB
we dota now
Sofiel is going to be in the next expansion, right?
>>181393406
>>181393424
>neutral blood
Sounds cool as fuck, considering I can actually build the deck without crafting anything.
I was looking at GameAi and all they have is meme decklists for Vengeance.
And yeah Im looking at a deck to grind GrandMasters since Im on vacations this month.
>build lion deck
>consistently get turn 3 gob leader and turn 4-5 lion
>one day later, shit bricks all day every day
just lion things
>>181392461
yes
When will we start calling bloodfags to kill themselves?
I won this game. What do you think was the correct play here on this crucial turn?
>>181393739
When their class becomes not shit tier.
>>181393652
>>181386392
You're in luck they even use Alucard.
>>181393424
I still dislike Alucard in the Grandmaster decklists. Feels like I'd rather run Belphegor.
>>181393652
some anon literally posted a couple of decks in this thread >>181386392
alternatively you can check gamewith
>tfw it seems i crafted 3 phantom cats for nothing
>people actually called Corpse bad
I haven't had this much fun with Shadowcraft in a long time.
>>181393809
belphegor is silly if the deck isn't vengeance based
i wonder why they don't run soul dominator though
grinded to 4k master points using this deck
>>181393773
Scyther the 2 chicks, but evolve the other scyther so she can survive one turn.
>>181393784
what did he mean by this
>>181393542
I mean, what else is there to do?
If they were to balance the game, legos would need to be changed and a lot of old cards would need to be redesigned to compete with new stuff.
It's naive to think old cards will come backsoul dealer loland stick. At best they will see play for a couple days and just fade away as the new cards take over.
>>181393652
Use this list.
>>181393812
Why do they run tove?
>>181393886
Can I see your decklist? I have been trying to make it worksince I pulled 3.
>>181393959
The heal is pretty handy when you're being bunga'd on
>>181393967
Correct.
>>181393959
The deck's not vengeance based but it really lacks card draw and whenever I played it Emeralda was a pain in the ass to actually activate, making her just vanilla.
>>181394017
Why not? It's a turn 2 3/3 with a trivial drawback.
>>181393963
>missing 3 samiki and 1 emeralda
well fuck
>>181393492
I had a themis in hand, played it and got killed anyway.
>>181394017
tove is great, it's extremely easy to make it into 3/3 with rush if you play a lot of neutral followers
>>181394017
>3/3 rush for 2 where the condition is trivially easy to activate
I wonder...
Wow big knuckle body guard is insanely good
>>181394017
overstatted 2 drop and it wouldnt attack on the turn its played anyway
>>181393967
>>181394053
How is that better than playing Sibyl? If you Sibyl now you can Sibyl + Scyther next turn, but if you use both Scyther your next turn isn't that great. It's only risking 1 more damage if he plays Alice or Feria.
>>181394017
turn 2 Tove
turn 3 Neutral follower, Tove kills opponent's 2 drop and lives, thus being also likely being able to kill their 3 drop
Or if you're going second, turn 2 Tove, turn 3 Neutral follower and kill their Goblin Leader
anyone else read BkB as black king bar?
Duelyst is getting a new expansion soon.
Are you hyped?
>>181394014
>3 animated
kys luckshitter
>>181394090
ugh, but emeralda has an unconditional removal
also baphomet is the wincon tutor after all
i personally tried a version with phantom cat, it was on gamewith before they switched to spawn and was on youtube, but it seems people think the version with spawn is much better than basically neutral zoo with some draw
>>181394415
Kill yourself, shill.
>>181394392
no shit
also corpselord is leoric
>>181394392
shut up dotard
>>181393773
Sybil evo into Alice
Sybil evo into whatever is the second biggest thing next turn and scyther the biggest, or Sybil plus Grimnir evo instead to present a more annoying board
Grimnir if it can clear board or Scyther and Forte to clear two big things
Grimnir
If you had more removal in hand, I'd have suggested saving the Sybils as having one that can't be removed is a death sentence for these neutral aggro decks.
>>181394415
No one plays your game anymore, kys
>>181394415
Isn't that game more ded than aliceverse?
Runic Guardian or Mage of Midnight?
>>181394356
turn 3 tove + goblin, turn 4 tove + unica/lyrial/actress, it makes tove 3/3 rush on the same turn
>>181394515
mage of nightfall
So I noticed decks centered around fairy dragon are kinda bad. What if I played a regular wolf or roach deck with fairy dragons in it though? Even if only 4 fairies or so get destroyed a 4/4 ward for 2pp is still very good.
>>181393809
The point is to throw him out after 16 damage from Cthulu.
>>181394569
i wish we had something like sigil leader that spawns a sigil at the start of youre turn
POST NEUTRAL LION
>>181394602
Forest doesn't have the draw power or board clears to survive in this meta unless they are playing neutral.
Don't bother.
>>181394392
i don't remember luna having robot ears
>>181394676
I hear B&B is only decent. I guess I really just shouldn't bother with forest this set? My WolfBolts kinda just collecting dust.
At least I can play Swords.
>>181394642
3 Lyrial, Celestial Archer
3 Unicorn Dancer Unica
3 Goblin Leader
3 Grimnir, War Cyclone
2 Alice, Wonderland Explorer
3 Priest of the Cudgel
3 Eagle Man
2 Dark Jeanne
3 Lion of the Golden City
3 Sacred Plea
3 Beastcall Aria
3 Blackened Scripture
2 Hallowed Dogma
2 Divine Birdsong
2 Mammoth
>>181394328
Because it's never a good idea to leave a board for neutral faggots.
>want to play Shadowverse
>actually almost enjoy this meta because I like playing Blood
>the monthly reward sleeves aren't the ones I wanted
The last couple of Haven decks I played against were all Aegis. Are people actually switching back to that to prey on control decks designed to beat Aggro Neutral?
>>181394602
Forest is really in the gutter now so it's hard to judge if fairy dragon is very good, imo I don't think it's good at all especially since you can't benefit from the fanfare on turn 2 ever so it becomes a turn 3+ ward. They should have really given it at least 5 health 4 health is too low.
>>181394020
Here you go. 3 slot is very experimental, I've tried chimeras, leaders, attendants, and those in the pic all to a reasonable degree of success. There would probably be 3 corpselords if I had a third one.
>>181394459
RIP Skeleton King.
>>181394707
I want to bury my face in that crotch
>>181393886
Do people trade with corpse or ignore it?
Now I understand the card Into the mirror what truly does.
>>181393795
>>181393812
>>181394014
Holy shit you guys weren't lying I was playing this on Masters, this deck is so fucking retarded.
>t4 eat a follower for free
>got all the neutral value so I can keep up and pressure
>can eat wards with like half of my deck
>spawn makes it so I win after dealing only 4 damage
I made a sword player concede after dropping enhanced baphomet.
is there anway to open the game a 2nd time? i want to play ranked while i fnish some chapters from the story
>Neutral Blood mirror literally decided by who goes first because of Alucard and Spawn
I changed my mind, this meta is shit.
>>181394937
>2 Alice
>no March
Umm....
>>181394834
The consistency issues with B&B make it really unfun to play sometimes and you can't even run the MVP cards like Aerin or many of the forest 2-drops. The neutral focus really makes me lean towards just playing the better neutral deck if I have to choose between them.
>>181394834
Yep, don't waste your time on B&B.
I crafted 3 of them and 3 Alice after not pulling a single forest lego from 80 packs.
Wolfbolt is too slow, B&B is inconsistent and FD is just a waste of time. Roach is okay if you like getting fucked by not drawing Into the Looking Glass or TEA.
Maybe next expansion will have something for us.
>>181394470
>sybil that can't be removed us a death sentence
You basically just said it. In this case you want to try to hold onto 1 sybil until hes out of evos since I'm already near 10pp. Sybil and grimnir was played next and they had to waste an evo on it to remove both. Eventually I dropped a Sybil when he couldn't remove it and I ended up healing from 2 hp to 11.
>>181394959
>actually almost enjoy this meta because I like playing Blood
lucky
>>181394834
>>181395278
>>181395280
B&B was my biggest mistake this expansion too. I'm usually pretty on the ball predicting what's good and bad but boy, the card just isn't going to fly right now. I should've waited before crafting mine. Maybe if things slow down later on it'll work out though.
>>181395261
Dropping a Lion with a Mammoth is no joke anon.
were there hacks for the future sleeves?
Should I go ahead and vial every useless card that I have? And then craft a neutral blood deck and proceed to go rack up free points?
>>181394963
The hell, three different Aegis decks in a row
Somebody tell me the "interaction" meme again, because from where I'm sitting if you go first and have Baphomet in hand you win. Nothing about this format is interactive at all.
Concede please
46689
>>181395479
Here you go.
>>181395484
Do you have any other WD legos? Might be cheaper to go neutral haven or sword if you have some of the pieces to that.
>>181395436
I mean I crafted
>3 B&B
>3 Fairy Dragon
>1 Antiquity
So I have it rougher than you do. This collection is slightly outdated, though. I have a 2nd Antiquity and a playset of Oz now.
>>181395436
B&B is definitely way too slow for this meta, and needing to hold onto 5 cards without any draw or fairy generation is pretty tough for forest. What they need is a draw mechanic since they don't have anything.
>>181395534
It's always been a meme. In a game where it's attackers choice and no instants exist, there's no interaction to be had.
Best you can get is to be able to trade into the opponent's followers, but seems like cygames got tired of that and just decided to go the ambush route this time.
>>181395626
I actually have a neutral sword ready complete with 3 alices and 3 cindies. I'm just really paranoid about losing those last 500 points to masters.
>>181395623
>Scarlet and hedgehog
>>181395484
If you don't get pissed that it will possibly get nerfed, then yes go right ahead. I made neutral and my plan is to hopefully get enough gold before they nerf it to buy more packs to build some other decks if they do plan to nerf some neutral blood deck cards.
>>181395135
If you have no evolves or shadows they usually ignore him. If you have evolves and/or shadows and they can kill him for good, they almost always will. If you have evolves but no shadows and they can't kill him for good but can knock him down, they'll usually do so and let you evolve him again. More often than not, I've also seen people knock him down just for him to come back from necromancy at the start of my turn as well, but I cannot for the life of me tell if that's just people not knowing how to play against him or the actual best thing for them to do.
tl;dr If you have the resources to make him threatening people ram into him all day long.
>>181395623
Holy shit. I NEED those Scarlet Sabeur sleeve. I NEED NEED NEED THEM
>>181395623
>No Odile, Odette
shit reward
Here are the cards I got from AX /svg/ going to grind more tomorrow for extras to sell or use as tokens in other card games.
I pulled 5(five) fucking Phantom Cats I do not want them lol. Need more Alice.
>play against Dragoncraft
>le alice engine ecks dee
Unironically drive a bolt through your skull. This entire set was one shitty mistake after another.
How important is Oz to Dirt? I have 0, but if I build the deck without her, I am just one young Levi away from it.
>>181396216
>foil wiz
>>181396216
So there are 2 cards in each of those packs?
Is there something better than turning a cthulhu into a mouse.
>Playing forest
Opp has a perfect curve, I lost!
>Playing sword
Opp has a perfect curve, I should've forseen this!
YAMEROOOOO
>>181396216
Are you the guy who used to post in /tg/ when Theros was in standard with a really strong red deck wins and anime sleeves
also WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE NEUTRAL BLOODS IN UNRANKED
>>181395623
Well fuck, I'm gonna have to get Scarlet and Sanic sleeves.
>>181395679
>crafted antiquity
>>181396269
She's a must have. 2 at least
>>181396339
Turning Cthulhu into a snowman.
>>181396216
I will suck your dick for that B&B
>>181396339
turning him into a snowman
HOW TO FIX WD
>goblin leader passive is a single time fanfare
>Feria gets no evolve stats
>Spawn effect doesnt get increased by evolve
there we go
>>181396406
Neutral cancer is everywhere. You can't escape.
>>181396216
>fow cards in the back
What decks you playing my friend?
>>181396216
i want that wock
>>181396216
cum on snow white or oz
>>181393886
>shadowcraft was gayshit last expansion and I hated it
>now it got two fun meme legendaries and I pulled none of them
All I ever get are the tryhard leggos
>>181396504
Would be supremely happy with those changes but we both know Cygames will do something much stupider or nothing at all.
>>181396582
you haven't lived until you've softlocked someone with dark alice + test of strength
>>181395679
All of those crafts were a big mistake.
>>181396504
>Suggested balance changes that actually make sense
Color me impressed
Any fellow Shadowfriends, how are the new leggos? I didn't pull any of them from packs so unless I waste a shitload of vials I can't test them out.
>>181396216
>I pulled 5(five) fucking Phantom Cats I do not want them lol.
gay
>Saved my 9000 rupies instead of opening packs
>Meta is a mess as expected
Have fun this expansion, I'm enjoying my 3 month vacation personally
>>181396841
>not getting the GM stuff before quitting
>>181396795
>so unless I waste a shitload of vials I can't test them out
Stop being a bitch and vial some of your cards, I have crafted at least 15 legendaries this expansion.
>>181396504
You missed Brawler and Emeralda
>>181396504
>>goblin leader passive is a single time fanfare
i.e. turn 4 alice into turn 3 goblin leader it's 2/3, 2/3, 3/4 instead of 2/3, 3/4, 1/2
cool idea, bro
>>181396795
Corpselord is a fun as fuck midrange card. Dark Alice probably replaced Nepthys as a control shadow win condition.
>>181396982
You can't be this retarded
>>181396795
dAlice is fun but inconsistent
you can basically set up your deck so you only draw grimnirs, hectors, test of strengths, whitecats and maybe a satan and softlock them while slowly burning them down with direct damage or dark alice hits on turns that ToS counts down to 0
shit sucks against forest/haven/rune though
>>181396841
Its better than the tog and RoB meta.
>>181395623
S E X Y
E
X
Y
https://my.mixtape.moe/dlsgpx.mp3
>>181396945
>I don't want blood to be useful
>>181397027
Not him, but any decklist for corpselord? I don't suppose you play him out without an evolve?
anyone have an aggro bloodcraft using carabosse without belphagor?
>>181397082
Does anyone actually believe this
>>181397123
Blood can be useful without completely broken effects with no downside.
>>181396795
People said Corpselord turned out better than expected but I dunno, Dark Alice is literally just a 7pp Mordecai for Neutral, her deck destruction effect does jackshit.
>>181396982
How have you managed this long?
>>181397163
RoB is arguable, but you are a retard if you think this meta is worse than ToG's "play Shadow or lose to Shadow and Dragon" meta
what spells/fanfares can deal 3 damage on turn 2 (in response to tove) i can think of the following
ivy spellbomb
hungering horde
razory claw
>>181397123
Don't be shadowbabs 2.0, admit your class is overtuned
>>181397082
I'm dying for the first shadowlog to come out and show how garbage the 1st/2nd turn order disparity is.
>>181397169
Yes, ""uselul"". Useful fodder for other classes on ladder by doing half their fucking job for them. Call me once staples like Sybil, Eachtar, Albert, and Levi are hit, then we'll talk about big dick bodyguard and emeralda.
>>181397169
And how would you propose that. Honestly curious.
Is anyone making the lion deck work consistently?
>>181397316
I don't think a shadow player ever denied that Catacomb and Eachtar were busted.
>>181397283
ivy spellbomb cost 3
>>181397283
twin elf
flame shield
zombie party
the dumb dragon aoe
>>181397278
Any retard that says RoB is fine didn't play pre gobbo nerf in masters. Gobbu roach was literally unbeatable, it had like 60%+ winrate. The rest of the ladder was populated by brain dead Daria players who keep missing lethal and misplaying out of the ass, but the high rolling nature of the deck kept saving them. ToG being worse than anything is a joke in and of itself. Must be some butthurt Shadow/Dragon nigger already missing their t0 format.
>>181397138
See >>181395045
He's most vulnerable played without evolve, yes, but he's 4 mana so you should rarely have to do so.
i love corpselord's sounds
wish i had one
>>181397419
Lion is high rolling garbage, it can't be consistent. You need an amulet, lion, AND neutrals in hand to pull it off, and if it doesn't come down on 5 or earlier, it's shit. Other neutral decks are a lot more consistent, just play Elana Aegis if you want a good Haven deck. Tenko is love.
Let's predict next expansion's cards
>7PP 10/10
>Ambush
>Protection from spell damage and effects
>When this follower attacks, win the match.
>Last word: Win the match.
>>181394392
>luna is best dota waifu
>luna is also best sv leader
gee luna
>when the opponent can't answer your evolved Soul Dealer on turn 4
This deck is easily the most fun I've had playing Shadowverse, Wiz really is the best part. Based professor saved me too killing spawn.
>>181397635
Give a deck.
>>181397723
>7pp
Too slow, make it 5 and neutral to boot
>>181396334
Nah there's only one each, I had to loop the line and then I brought my friends to get 6 at once.
>>181396464
Real talk? I'd be willing if you're /cm/ or female.
>>181396534
I haven't played in a while I want to get back into it. I brought the Persephone for ygo tokens.
>>181396553
If I pull another Oz maybe.
>>181397723
>dies to bahamut
Fun fucking game
Am I the only one who feels like spawn is what a reworked Anomaly would've looked like if retards hadn't insisted on keeping it the way it is?
>>181397842
Still working on it, probably will drop 1 Priest. Might also drop Aria, because it's too slow for the meta. The deck relies a LOT on getting snowwhite on 2 to not get run down. ASL /Jeanne aren't good enough in this meta, everything has too much HP. I find the deck still struggling with Sword that goes first, but consistently shits on any flavor of Abyss, whether control or neutral.
>>181398142
>3300 crystals
Nigga.
>>181397785
How often does this happen, 1 out of 200 games?
>>181398142
Dumb netdecker
>>181398142
lol
>>181398160
so your mulligan requires both snowwhite and elana?
>>181398142
>5 gold
>>181398238
Yeah something like that. Rarely ever happens but that concede that comes immediately after is always satisfying.
>>181398160
That Naoise might actually be good against Cthulhu.
>neutral blood spends their turn 5 trading an evolved, enhanced baphomet into my evolved corpselord
>>181398142
>losing streak piloting a deck with 16 damage on turn 7
Nigga what the fuck?
>>181398142
That's what you get for playing dirt.
Half the time you get only sigils and brick, the other half you don't get a single sigil and brick.
I don't think any other deck has to play 2 cards to effectively play one card.
>>181398142
>spend money of this shit
>cant even win
>>181398414
Maybe he plays control, which is shit.
>>181397791
i like fun, deck?
>>181398590
Why would anyone still play Control when Midrange Spawn is both cheaper and infinitely superior?
>>181398142
>Dumb whale
Forgot to screencap myself, so I found it in the archive.
Why is it I can do 10 games in a row and get dogshit draws and every faggot I play always has a perfect curve
>>181397283
https://shadowverse-portal.com/cards
advanced search
cost 2
spell
card text "damage" or to be more precise "3 damage", "4 damage" etc and "x damage"
shield of flame, zombie party, breath of salamander, hungering horde, razory claw - these are unconditional and will kill a tove always (why does a tove look like an anteater anyway)
undying resentment - needs necromancy 2 to deal 4 damage (possible to have if you played t1 skull beast and it died)
elf twins - need to have at least 2 neutral cards in your hand, that's if tove is alone, if tove isn't alone you need to have 3 neutral cards in your hand to guarantee its extermination (since it's t2 they can't have more than 2 followers one of which is tove and neither of those would have more than 3 defense)
there is also unbridled fury but you can't activate it for 3 damage on turn 2, you need 3 allied followers in play for that
>>181398693
Sword is only good if it opens the nuts, goes first, and you hand is shit with no removal.
Blood is legitimately stupid.
>>181396445
I try making Control Sword work every expansion., Thats why.
>>181398660
I-I like control. Its why I'm still playing it.
>>181387083
I'd never forget you girl.
Post em.
>tfw pressed liquefy extras before starring
>Half way through A3
>Jump back down to A2
Will I ever hit masters?
Ohohoho ganging up
She knows who should win
>>181398868
>Rapunzel
>>181398868
>starred maisy and rapunzel
i chuckled
>>181398938
Only shitters tilt. But don't worry. Many in masters are shitters
>>181398640
This + 2 mutagenic
Professors are being tested atm. Theyre putting in work so far but better option might exist
>managed to transform 2 cthulhu to rats
>still almost lost
Jesus christ, what's with this deck. Maybe I should craft my 3rd Oz just in case.
>>181399014
>>181399021
Those were day 1 knee jerk stars, but I'm keeping them just to see how different the real meta is from predications.
>>181398660
Because it's fun when it works and I don't like being the boring meta shitter.
A few more stompings from tove into leader into Alice into Baphomet and I might give up though.
How do I get these sleeves
>>181399146
Uh...
>>181399146
uhhh dotards???
>>181399146
>Shadow vs Dragon
>Talks about a Rune card and a Blood card
Lethal Blade is really good against neutral sword.
>>181399142
It's fun as hell but I brick a lot because either NO sigils or ALL the sigils.
I see you took out illusionist, I've been thinking about it too actually because this faggot starts eating all your sigils and just won't stop.
>>181396504
I think Gobu should keep his goblin spawning but only if you don't attack with him that turn.
>>181399189
If I wanted to play Blood and not be relevant I'd play Vengeance.
>>181399361
Maybe he picked the wrong image?
>>181399146
You've definitely lost something.
Is it safe to make a neutral sword deck if i'm a sword main
I don't even care if it's going to be t1 or not, if it's better than midrange last expansion i'm more than happy
>>181399257
what the fuck? whats the guys name?
>implying they'll nerf Abyss
>When Eactar is STILL untouched
There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Eachtar is easily one of the most broken 10 cards in the game. No, not just """"strong""""", broken.
>>181399014
>>181399021
>>181399163
I just remember Rapunzel being shot along with corpselord in that debut matches.
>>181399417
>removal is good against the deck with 1 (one) way to refuel its hand, and that way is highly dependent on having a board in the first place
You don't say.
Neutral Sword will be to WD meta what Aggro Bats was to DE and RoB. You play it if you want to win or lose quickly without having to think about your plays.
>>181399259
>>181399336
>>181399361
My mistake. Should manage my pics a bit better. I wonder why many people are dissing out neutral rune. It's not as good as neutral sword, but at least it has a fighting chance against neutral blood.
>>181399612
Depends, how much do you like the turn order deciding the game outcome?
Someone post a nep deck
Can I get a concede: 87048
>>181399783
lol
>>181399719
>neutral rune
how does such thing looks like anyway? it sounds like its less likely to birck compared to dirt rune but not sure what to use
plus i love using what i roll so uh
>>181399782
Not much, but if it's fun i'm ok with it
>>181399783
a nep deck
>open reward pack
>this happened
A damn shame that the craft is currently cancer.
73288
I need a private win. Stay if you need one too.
>>181399719
Its all neutral cancer in the end. Only real diferences are the leaders and how quickly you can get your opponent to contemplate suicide.
>>181399612
Make Alice, but not the rest.
Goblin Princess is an acceptable substitute for card knights and syngergizes with rabbit all the same.
Cinderella could be replaced with any of the neutral engine 3 drops that your list does not yet have.
>neutral sword opponent
>princess kisses his goblin before evolving maisy
>next turn evolves another maisy and trades her into an unevolved corpselord I have no means of activating
>disconnects when I play eachtar for lethal
>>181399816
Thanks Ding Dong
>>181399682
>Eachtar is easily one of the most broken 10 cards in the game. No, not just """"strong""""", broken.
Is Abyss not? And it's pretty obvious they won't nerf it because it's a legendary, everyone seems to know this. Anyone suggesting nerfs is just being wishful.
So what's going to beat new Dirt rune? It slaps the shit out of the normal goblin swarm decks, and can bully out of spawn decks.
Anyone got a good PtP forest deck?
>>181399682
At least Eachtar can't be cheated out before his turn 7
>>181400073
bricks
>>181399894
Not sure about Hector and Feena. Maybe I should swap it out with some demonic strikes.
>>181400073
I've played a decent bit of neutral rune and I don't really see how dirt is a problem
>>181399964
Is this for 20 wins or daily?
>>181400073
Haven
>>181398793
Got a deck for WD so far?
>>181399928
she is not played in neutral blood though
>>181399257
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card-sleeves-and-emblems-list
its not on the list so probably a dev i guess
>>181399928
And yet it's a mediocre card that's not run in neutral midrange or control, and is barely an upgrade for vengeance despite /svg/ freaking out about it more than any other blood card.
>>181400073
Ramp Dragon shits on it pretty bad. Outheals the burn, Bahamut wrecks all the sigils, using mutagentic on a single Ouroboros is a waste of PP, and of course GRIMMMMMMMMIR
>>181400068
That's exactly the thought. If a piece of shit like Eachtar goes 3 months, shitting up the meta, forcing a double nerf wave, just so he can remain untouched, then they're never planning on touching a legendary. They'll nerf 5+ cards if it takes, kill entire classes for an expansion, just so they don't have to refund the 3k vials.
>>181400130
The real problem isn't just that Spawn can have its cost reduced, it's that it's tutorable too. Tutor effects were a fucking mistake for this game and its been proven twice now with Goblin Mage and Baphomet. Can't wait to see how Prism Princess gets broken one day.
>>181400073
>normal goblin swarm decks
kek
>>181400130
That's why tutors will be hit hard, especially Baphomet.
I'm guessing that the people complaining about neutral are from neutralcraft classes that don't want to play neutralcraft? I've been having no trouble farming them as mid shadow.
>>181400328
they didn't kill any class with nerfs against eachtar (or any leggo for that matter) though
Hero of Antiquity any good?
>>181400452
They didn't, but I mean if a legendary causes something stupid like a tier 0 70%+ winrate meta, they WILL mass nerf bronze and silver cards, or just make a few of them literally unplayable before ever considering touching the legendary.
>>181399462
I think he's useful in mirrors where the other player is going to have alot of removal but a bit useless otherwise. I'd rather have crafty warlock so I can trade and still have a sigil, or not have to worry about having no turn 1 sigil.
>>181399653
>>181400258
Sorry for late reply - see pic related
>>181400505
He's meh.
Im so sad i can't pull a Dread Sea + Wyrm Goddess deck, at least one with just Wyrm Goddess is working relatively well.
>>181400505
Complete trash. Could have been better if he was a commander.
>>181400148
>3 alices
im guessing its not worth to join the neutralcaust without them
>>181400430
Not all, my good shadownigger. A small portion are people just trying to eke out a win or two in this awful meta with their pet decks.
>>181400336
>Prism Princess
Priestess. And she's not much of an issue unless the decks for Haven suddenly starts to only run one type of amulet. With how dependent Haven is on what little decent amulets it has (Aria, Tribunal, etc) Priestess' draw will always be at the mercy of the RNG.
>>181399257
Did you win the match? You were probably on live stream.
Pls assist. Does this need Snow Shites?
>>181400505
there's a reason why people derisively call him officer timmy.
>>181400716
Drop Cudgel for Teena
>>181400716
pretty much every haven deck can be improved by snow white
>>181400716
If you have it, sure. But I don't think SW is actually necessary. Also drop Cudgel, it's Teena's time to shine.
>>181400624
Those must be some pretty poor decks if they can't win where ghostmemes can.
>>181400643
Really? Great. I lost. Second time that's happened
>another expansions with a CSword legendary
>but no actual CSword support
where is the fucking heal cygames
>>181400716
D.Jeanne doesn't really DO anything for the deck. If you're playing Garudas you need to be playing Divine Birdsong. Listen to the other anons and switch baldy banishman for Teena. Find room for 2 Snow and 2 Dogs if you have them.
>>181401013
We finally gotneutraldraw support though.
>2pp 3/3 rush
>>181401093
I don't get why anons are expecting her getting nerfed.
>>181400902
They probably cheated your draws anyway.
Is soul dominator better in neutral blood than alucard?
2 weeks from now, people will quit playing Neutral Sword. Sword will return to meme tier status with Forest at the bottom of the barrel.
People will realize that neutral shadow is straight up superior because Eachtar is a better class support than Albert and CoCK combined.
All it needs is some japanese grandmaster to throw out his deck for everyone to copy, much like the current cancer of the ladder, neutral midrange blood.
>>181400565
it's probably Zucchi Erika's VA. theres no way anyone could have that other than the VA
Guys Guys, I think I have an idea for an Abomination Awakened deck, but I'll need to craft some of him and some sub-par cards to actually test it out
>>181401093
I really need to throw out this Monkey's Paw
>>181401148
Because every class is allowed to have good draw options except Sword and Forest
>>181400565
What rank is Sword-tan?
>>181401232
Alucard is cheaper.
Both do their job in that it's 4 damage after Abyss does 16.
If you have the dominators already, go for it.
>>181397943
Did you see the Erika and Arisa cosplayers? I think you might be able to invite them back to your hotel room
>everyone already netdecking this stupid neutral midrange blood garbage
Not even 4 days and the expansion is already cancer
Nice going Cykikes!
Who will get proper support first
Ginger
or
CSword
>>181401451
Forest
>>181401186
What do you mean?
>>181401284
Was AA3, about 48000
>>181401451
I hope Ginger.
>>181401451
Minthe!
>>181401405
I looked at Twitch and everyone is playing blood. Not just blood in general but the exact same deck.
Much like everyone was playing Midshadow with zero card deviation a month ago.
The only SV content I watch is SatanCat, mostly for his meme decks like Atomy, LEONEE, and ZEUEZ.
>>181401809
I was thinking a few minutes ago that I might stream burn rune tomorrow, but I'm still picking up the playstyle as I hadn't touched dirt before this expansion.
>>181400505
If the game goes to turn 8 and someone hasn't won or has a board capable of winning next turn already then something's gone wrong or both players are playing trash decks.
Welcome to your new meta.
Is Alexander safe vial?
>>181380871
Obviously built by a Dragonfucker fanboy. Everyone else got 1 shit Legend, 1 good one. Only Dragon gets all the good shit AND fucking Grimnir.
>>181401502
>be KMR
>Spawn turns out good idea compared the last time with sneks
>Time to push for CONTROL forest since Anomeme sucked dick
Fuck, I sense this shit will go twice as retarded with spawn.
Will I regret it?I still have reserve of 63k vial
What do i replace illusionist with?
I hope this Spawn bullshit gets nerfed to death so I can play my Vengeance Blood in peace next month while grinding out Scarlet Sabreur sleeves.
>>181401510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJxOLYEYv4g
you played against this beauty
>>181401925
>new
it's been this way since DE
>>181402296
People used to play Satan. It's definitely not the same.
>>181402046
>Nep and Eachtar
>Aegis and Dark Jannu
Those two are good too, but the rest are forced meme.
>>181402208
>leggo getting nerf
They'll just whack tutors at best.
>>181402208
I don't think any deck could possibly have less interaction with spawn than fucking vengeance.
That deck's always been "go first, draw a belly+ curve, lose after turn 6." Yeah, spawn can be the thing that kills you, but so can a million other fucking cards.
>>181402208
I'd expect Baph's enhance effect to be removed.
>>181401925
Non-dragon players wouldn't still be playing Grimnirs despite the increased counters and alternatives if they didn't think they'd be playing to turn 10 some of the time.
>>181402385
>Dark Jean
>good
>Nep
>good
Maybe if you like T5 decks that never should've seen the light of day and are catagorically worse than making a fucking Bannersword deck, yeah, they're "good".
>>181402457
If you're losing on t6 with Vengeance Blood then you should probably stick to playing Neutral Sword for your Ranked experience.
>>181402463
Most probably it'll be an Enhance 6 or 7.
>>181402541
I said "after", nimrod.
The deck is supposed to finish them on turn 6. Turn 7 at the absolute latest.
Blaming spawn for an inconsistent deck that was never fucking consistent is stupid. Imagine a control deck that had to draw its win con by fucking turn 4.
>>181402463
>Cygames
>actually nerfing a problem card, like most Legendaries are
>nope fuck that let's nerf a silver instead
Why can't these fucking 11's ever do things right?
>>181402962
With spawn it can afford to draw its wincon asap since memekey.
>>181402962
Okay, let me amend my statement.
If you're losing after t6 with Vengeance Blood and it isn't because you just didn't draw your enablers then stick to playing Neutral Sword.
Is that better for you?
>>181403023
>>181403023
>>181403023
new thread
>>181403037
>musings from c rank
kys.
B
A
S
E
D
Shadow got shafted too hard, back to playing nephthys.
Haven seems like shit. What's the good deck here?
>>181401394
Yeah I saw them, under what basis did you make this claim? Because I'll definitely go for it if I had evidence.
>CSword with Roland could beat Cancer Blood
>except they gave blood amulet removal