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>The Shadowcraft follower Shadow Reaper will cost 3 instead of 2.
>The bronze Neutral amulet Test of Strength will now have the effect "Countdown (2) All followers that come into play gain Ward until this amulet leaves play." This will replace the current effect, "Leaders cannot be attacked if there is a follower that can be attacked in their area."
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Spawned: >>181338823
Play Bloodcraft.
How's your deck building going, /svg/?
Uncensored Isabelle when?
stopped playing a lot mid way through daria expansion, and a bit of last of expansion.
what are the new memes now?
is ToT, corpselord, darkalice deck good?
>>181358621
>>181358621
You missed the worst expansion. Good time to come back.
>>181358575
Best card of expac.
Can't wait for sleeves.
>>181358701
fuck, I meant ToS
>Kiss of the Princess on a Goblin
>stop and realize what I've done
>play Wise Merman
>put the gun in my mouth
>win anyway because Swordcraft is stupid
Someone give me a control blood list.
I don't damn care if it loses to Sword. I already know that. No need to keep on saying it. Just give me one that works well in WD.
>>181358448
Mid shadow is really in the dumpster. I had a mid range shadow deck for win ranked dailies and it took me a while to win 4 matches. Shit I barely won against Neutral Leon heaven and I had to double balanced man only to regain some sort of board control.
It did help that I had 3 foul tempest as tech for the old mirror against mid shadow.
>>181358829
I'm still mad she's not the monthly reward for July. I don't want to wait another month to grind.
>>181358931
>control blood
>lose to sword
Nigga what?
>>181358724
>>181358767
but i like dragoni play everything but haven and forest
>>181359000
Just give me a list.
>>181358621
>memes
Jabberwock
otk windmill
otk sky dragon
I only know dragon because I play dragon
>>181358621
Last expansion was interesting.
Combination of Heavenly Aigis, Haven's 100% unremovable card, and crazy buffs to ramp dragon made other control decks basically useless. Midrange shadow has shamelessly overpowered cards, some got nerfed, still shamelessly overpowered. Then out of the smoke came Vengeance Blood with a balanced, but powerful archetype that was the best thing to happen in Shadowverse for a long time.
Now no one knows wtf is happening, but at the moment neutral aggro is a horrible cancer, though counters to it will probably become apparent soon.
In all seriousness this shouldn't be allowed.
>>181359160
>100g
is that a budget list? mind posting?
>>181355847
>card isn't animated irl
what the fuck is cygames doing
>>181359028
FIRE FIRE
I heard Seraph is good again. Anyone with a list?
>>181359161
The only thing interesting last expansion was Vengeance Blood. Stop saying it was good.
This expansion is a whole lot better by a fucking mile. Now if they only nerf Goblin Leader (which is obvious they will) and one more card that I'm not sure which one though, it will be the best of the rest.
>>181359214
It was for doing the achievement quickly. I don't have a list for you, but shouldn't be too hard to find a budget blood list somewhere
>>181358621
in current metawith lot of agrodirt rune became tier 1 deck and i'm not even kidding
Can I get some private matches here?
I need some of that gold!
46198
Come smash my face please.
I remember an anon asked for a picture of Garuda having tea. Some Japanese dude drew this recently.
>>181358578
It's alright, I guess. I don't have any vials to craft Oz, otherwise I'd make a Dirt Rune deck. Need to figure out how to fit Goblin Leader in my Blood.
>>181359351
Is goblin leader really the worst offender here? Why are people mad about a 3pp that has to live for three turns to have better value than just playing goblins?
>>181358448
hot slut
>>181359351
Its only good because if you can survive aggro neutral first 6 turns they usually run out of gas.
>>181359064
I've had about 75% winrate with this in masters (starting from 0 master score)
gl senpai
Literally every single neutral blood deck I've played against had turn 2 tove, turn 4 Alice and turn 5 Baphomet.
How is this even possible?
MOOOOOOOOOOOOM
What does the new Dirt look like? Is it only viable with Oz?
>Tfw still haven't pulled a physical Alice
Life is pain
>>181359572
A. Because Goblins it generates are literally free bodies.
B. Free bodies that get buffed by all the Neutralcraft shit that you play on t4 like Alice or Actress if you go second.
C. Goblin Leader is a must-answer card on the turn it comes down. Generating one free 1/2 on t3 is good value, getting another on t4 is when the game is already slipping away from you.
>>181359351
>Now if they only nerf Goblin Leader (which is obvious they will)
I can't believe people are complaining about an Ascetic Knight.
>>181359064
It's more neutral than control, but I've been having a lot of fun with this, only lost a couple of times to shadow
>>181359678
posto listo
How does this rune deck look.
Give suggestions how I could improve on it if you got any.
Tempting to use my animation orb on Wizardess also since Rune is the only viable deck that I find fun.
>>181359667
They believe in the heart of the cards.
>>181359721
No idea why my images keep flipping
>>181359351
Yeah I don't mind this meta too much honestly. Way better than the Shadow spam of ToG. Only thing that needs to be looked at is CoCK/Attendant. Neutralcraft is prone to just running out of gas aside from those, which makes it OK.
>still no Dark Alice meta deck
I crafted two of them. It's not fair
>>181359721
I got three from about 55 packs, should have saved more gold I guess.
>>181359460
Thanks Erika,
2/20
how much money have you spent on this game?
>>181359721
Just grab the cards and run.
>>181359827
replace professor with DoD or caprice
replace crafty warlock with that ambush follower
>>181359698
No but she helps a lot.
>>181359902
>more shadownigger meta
no thanks
>>181359943
$40 or $50 during DE when I was new. Haven't bought crystals since, despite being tempted.
>>181359943
0 shekels
>>181359762
I'm missing an Alice and a Lion, so the build is unoptimized. Won't bother sharing it.
>1st day of WD
Fucking Cygames fucking neutral holy shit what the fuck is this.
>2nd day of WD
I can't believe people are complaining about aggro neutral. They lose steam so easily anyway. Also lots of Control lists are showing up already.
Make up your minds people.
Anyone here not mind the abundance of neutral cards? Coming from other TCG like YGO or MTG, you often see splash able cards that everyone uses and it doesn't necessarily take the fun off the game(MST and Brainstorm comes to mind)
>>181359203
I love how basically everyone gets "faeries"
Is Spawn of the Abyss good?
>>181359995
>le shadownekker ptsd xd
hang yourself
>>181360206
Yes.
>>181359943
I bought a prebuilt during New Year's when they had the 600-crystal deal for like 4 dollars. Now I don't even play forest, money well spent.
>>181360073
even better since i got 2 alice 2 lion
>>181359742
It's an ascetic knight if ascetic knight kept making dudes and if rousing step instead had a curve fucking body you faggot
>>181359634
Very similar to my list, doesn't Temptress fuck up your Baphomets though?
>>181359460
Thanks Vampy, you were truly the ungest of bungas
3/20
>>181359554
I need a picture of Garuda and the Lion brofisting.
>>181359827
-1 taboos
-1 golem
+2 dod
>>181360096
No because after 1 day people are actually starting to LOOK and not just overreact. I've been playing control decks now and it edges the aggro stuff that are coming out of the woodwork.
>>181360261
It's a 1/2, how can you let it survive?
>>181360206
No he's meme. Literally a 8pp do nothing. Vial him and craft x3 Corpselord instead.
>>181360096
I like Neutralcraft because all the cards are cute.
Sword especially with Cinderella, Maisy and Bunny Attendant.
A lot better than staring at Eachtar and Abyss all day.
>>181359064
>>181359634
Forgot to mention, the queen vamps have bricked me too often so i swapped them out for 2x hungering horde
>>181359943
About $100 CAD or $75 USD. I hate farming for gold and i would rather get the decks that i want now.
People who spend money on this game tend to have more money than time.
Why didn't aliceposting catch on?
I want to give Cinderlella an illegitimate child
>>181359943
I bought the dragon, shadow and blood prebuilts, and 2 street fighter leaders (can't fucking stand Eris and Isabelle), and that's it. Depending on the new poll I might buy 2 or 3 more leaders.
>>181360206
Look at it like this: he's the only viable win condition for blood
Hero of Antiquity is safe to vial, right?
>>181359992
>replacing crafty warlock
>caprice
Stop.
>>181360074
The rabbit of big tattas, fat ass and many draws keeps my hand full while playing neutral sword.
>>181360426
the expansion hasn't even been out for 24 hours
>>181360451
If it's a Swordcraft child she's going to leave you.
>>181360494
Yes, it has.
>>181360426
I want to help Alice become an adult!
>>181360074
People love to complain, what did you expect.
>>181359995
What? She's not even related to midrange
>Open my pack from last night T2
>See this
>>181359827
As a kind anon told me yesterday:
>Magic illusionist is not good. He's shit, he has always been shit. He can be at best an annoyance, and the enemy will be happy to kill him to eat your sigils on purpose. Drop that shit faggot.
Instead of calling him a faggot back I actually tried to drop illusionist. Turns out he was right. Drop magic illusionist, he's shit.
>>181359827
I'm using this deck.
>>181360627
Time for a Walfrid deck anon
>>181360426
>>181360479
>no professor means you need less sigils
>caprice or DoD has synergy with Oz
>>181359902
>pick the early neutral engine
>slap dark alice
>then add a bunch of neutral bombs
also tos for memes
>>181360676
What do you change for Illusionist?
>>181360627
I want to .lick Otohime's feets.
>>181360621
so uuh
is dark alice just mordecai you play 1 turn earlier but comes with fucking lot of conditions
>>181360823
retarded ESL
Can't out-ambush me, Juri
>>181360676
You're shit. Magic illusionist is a sticky follower that hard to remove and help you hit you enemy face.
>>181359827
>three oz for a deck with only 8 spells
Hmm lol? Put in DoD instead of Taboos/Warlock
>>181360472
People are making Corpselord decks.
Meanwhile this card is much worse than Alexander and Fangblade at the 8 slot.
Maybe...just maybe Cygames will give control sword supp....oh wait they never will. Yeah just vial it.
>>181360837
you can also use her to thin your deck
>>181360627
Happy to see you got a free 2500 vials!
>>181359460
Thanks Erika, perfect game!
4/20
>>181360716
Caprice is absolutely terrible. You want to keep your board.
>But Oz's last word!
Literally doesn't matter. You should drop her later than turn 5 except in the rare case you only have a couple cards left in your hand and need fuel asap.
>>181360972
...by removing all the good cards from your deck
Best legendary to animate with globe? I don't wanna regret it.
>>181358578
Very well. A lot of deck variety this time around.
>>181360757
Sounds only good in theory. Need stable deck with good winrate. Spawn eat you alive
>>181360837
This card is her combo.
>>181361165
Alice blinks!
>>181361165
Pluto
>>181358578
Are you gay?
>>181360913
Fuck off. He gives zero pressure against actual control decks (again, he actually backfires because you'll lose sigils) and gets outvalued big fucking times by any neutral aggro shit going around. He was okay in tog, but now he's too slow and is not doing anything besides dying over and over again.
>>181360884
>veteran lancer in RC
Honestly I just run x6 2pp removal.
The soldier summoning one and flame shield
Its too easy to remove veteran
If I make 3 Alice right now, will I regret it for the 3 months it's going to be on?
>>181361071
You play Siren's Tears + ToS. Every turn you will draw neutrals. +5/+5 every turn to random neutral
Balanced man is still balanced. He alone carries Mid shadow to tier 2 at the very least.
>>181361165
fairy dragon
>>181361338
WHAT DO YOU CHANGE FOR ILLUSIONIST?
Why does this voice make my dick hard?
http://sv.bagoum.com/voice/j/vo_105341010_1.mp3
>>181359943
$0. I am a full f2p jew.
>>181361464
Forest always has the best animated cards desu
>>181359568
You don't really need Oz for dirt rune. It's nice to have but not mandatory
I'm running Melvie instead and having mild success
>>181359634
What about mask?
>>181359943
Out of pocket, $11
>>181361165
Vampy.
Why do you even ask?
I recorded my games today. It took me50to gain 1k MP. Should I just give up the grand master dream?
JUST
>>181361518
because her voice is definition of sex
>>181360480
>fat ass
I don't believe you
>>181359028
Lecia!
>>181359943
Blood pre built, nothing more.
>>181361689
Glad to see that the booth wasn't completely empty.
>>181359460
Thanks Buff Dracula!
5/20
>>181361671
What deck have you been playing?
>>181361671
>play every day
>end the day with 400 more score
>hit GM in a month
You'd have to be a monkey to not be able to climb in this game, unless you're unwilling to craft 3x Alice
>>181361825
no problem boss
>>181361689
>that literal neckbeard in the background
oh my fuck
>dipshit Neutral Sword player at 3 HP with 0 evolves left
>I have a Yurius on board
>they play Goblin Leader and end their turn
>>181361689
dude wash your hair
>tfw still playing same vengance deck
Fuck creating any new decks, fuck expansions
>>181361853
I tried everything from Alice Sword to Burn Dirt and the only thing I really gain points with is neutral Blood
Fuck Neutral Blood. That shit is cancer.
When you face against a player who skips turns, do you believe them an idiot or understand the pain of bricking?
>>181361689
How the fuck did this guy even get that job? I watched some of the NGE tournaments and he has no fucking clue about the game.
>>181362190
anyone who skips without playing anything is in brick city
CONFIRMED
Abyssal Spawn leader when?
>>181362190
>>181362349
If I'm at 8 or less I intentionally don't play a follower against Midrange/Control Blood so they can't evolve Spawn and win.
>sword accidentally bounces cinderella without attacking with her
>sword mistakes one of their followers for neutral and fucks up their maisy evolve
>>181362482
But /svg/ told me dirt is t1
>>181362231
Nepotism, i'm guessing.
>>181362518
How hard is it to just double check your cards?
>>181360823
Excuse me, that's my wife you're talking about.
>>181362482
Please tell me neutral blood is tier 1 for shitting on haven. I can beat sword and blood pretty readily but bishop is just a fucking diceroll on whether they play 10/10 stats on turn 4.
>>181362518
Did he play Kiss on a card? Because that card's effect isn't as clear as it should be.
>>181361750
It's literally the only kind of woman the artist draws.
>>181362683
2 JP are in Grandmasters with Neutral Spawn Blood. They both got Grandmasters a few hours ago.
WHY ARE YOU ROPING?
IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE JUST CONCEDE AND HEAD INTO THE NEXT GAME
YOU'RE WASTING EVEN MORE TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO END THIS GAME LOSING POINTS
HOLY FUCK
>>181362482
and people denied haven lion is not 100% bullshit
any decks you're working on, /svg/?i'm building a shitty golem abomination deck
>>181362862
dude you can brick xd
>>181360426
I'm going to explore Alice's Wonderland!
I WANT TO MARRY WIZARDESS OF OZ
>>181359460
Thanks Forte, I had written off hippogryph as pack filler before this.
6/20
>>181362598
Yesterday only 3 decks were T1. It's too early for final picture. I believe we still not discovered all strong decks and combos.
>>181362814
>it's working
[furious Airjammer noises]
>>181362971
she's a fiction
>>181362783
got any list?
>>181359992
>>181360937
>removing professor of value
Really don't understand why people suggest that. He's the strongest dirt eater after Levi.
>>181362887
I really want face dragon to be a thing again. Working on perfecting it.
>>181362990
Hippo can become a big girl. Works great with dragonewt scholar, goblin spam, aqua and efya.
>>181362887
Control Blood
Smug Rune
I would be working on my own flavor of Haven too, but I don't have enough vials.
>>181363131
Well, it's supposed to be a fast deck but 2 Taboos is fine i guess.
>>181362887
Old-school aggro blood with Baph-Carabossa
>>181362887
Working on control blood
I dont if it's a meme but it sounds fun to make
>>181362862
BUT IT CAN BRICK
2x animated Emeralda from daily gold pack, wtf
Reminder that they printed this card with WD in mind.
Why even bother with """"control"""" blood when neutral blood does everything 10 times better?
>>181360334
New hotness is garuda and tin can.
>>181362887
Still working on this, trying to get the ratios just right. I'd rather not cave, craft 3 Spawn and play Neutral Blood but I might.
Can I just liquefy my 2 Fafnir and 2 Mythril Golems?
They are goddamn useless right? Or should I just wait before Cygames makes them full refundable?
>>181363330
Daria could actually brick way harder than Lion
>>181363131
>didn't get themised
he bricked
>>181363420
she has a pretty nice ass
>>181363439
It's more fun - I don't like aggro or midrange decks. Though I agree it's weaker and I'm probably going to move into it once I end up crafting the Alices.
>>181363532
They will never get changed and they will never be good. If you can make use of 4k vials, I see no reason to hold onto them.
>>181363553
You die to literally everything.
shit like snow white or goblin leader are a fucking death sentence.
>matched up against elf
>he ropes the first turn then does nothing except pass turns for the rest of the game
???
can someone post good lions decklist? because i got from packs 3 of them and 1 snow
>>181363532
Fafnir is already outclassed by Wrath Drake and Bahamut and I don't even remember what Mythril Golem does anymore. Vial them.
>>181363729
Not really. Snow white is more of a problem than Goblin Leader, which dies to pretty much every piece of removal you can use.
what is safe to vial
there's also one satan and one bahamut
>>181363802
Fafnir was never about the 2 damage to all
Fafnir is all about being 8/10
>>181362971
>Marrying a skank with a pierced lip
All these guy playing goblin and neutralcraft to alice.
I am just playing TotG aggro shadow or aggro sword.
Winning all my game easily unless the opponent get god draw with alice at turn 4 and turn 6.
Good thing I didn't listen /svg/ .
>>181363879
His stats don't matter for dick when wiping the board is more important. It can be a 20/20 for all it matters, if you only do 2 damage to everything and nothing dies then you're still likely still getting fucked to death.
>>181363729
>cblood
>die to literally everything.
No? You can kill neutralsword while going second
>>181363984
just JO bro
How am I supposed to build a Corpselord deck? Just make Midrange Shadow and throw 3 copies of him into the deck?
>consider playing Teena to counter neutralcraft
>she'd get countered by the opponent's Teenas
>>181363897
t. A rank
What is your trump card?
>>181363879
Yeah like fucking Hulking Giant. And that dude gets to be dropped earlier with certain immunities and still is useless.
>clearing 2 turns of sword vomit thanks to based man.
Levi is the hero we deserve this meta.
>>181364027
If you don't draw blood moon and revelation you're fucked.
>>181363871
Honestly, alot of your leggos range from great to meme tier
you don't have many outright bad ones.
Does anybody have that roach list with Forest of Dreams and Homecoming?
>>181363871
anything 7pp up except lion
>>181363897
These people that got to Grand Master with Neutral Blood must be really skilled players then.
>>181364041
Run him as an evolve drop in a deck with good earlygame shadow generation.
This is a really fun and interactive game.
>>181363984
>>181364095
Yeah sure whatever, that is what Shadowverse is like
But Wrath Drake and Fafnir are nothing alike
>>181363902
who the fuck is mama
forte? did this shit meme really stick?
How good is neutral blood right now? I'm reading that its like tier 1 right now.
>>181364153
that's pretty much what i was thinking my friend
i just want some vials to craft some safe legendaries like golden lion and cinderella andalbertas it's getting pretty boring playing cblood
>>181363763
If it was unranked he was roping and hoping for DC's for dailies.
>>181364071
Dank Jeanne. Occasional bricks but random board wipes and kills out the ass.
>>181364197
I won a game like that just moments ago.
A full 20 damage in a single turn is ridiculous. Eat your heart out Deepwood Anomaly.
>>181364197
Esmeralda is so getting nerfed. She is such a bullshit card.
>>181364197
that's some bm shit right there you filthy nigger
>>181364127
Horde
Kiss
Claw
BkB
Lethal Blade
Sabreur
Drain
Bander
Emeralda
This is all you have. Sometimes you brick of course, like everyone
>>181364292
I want Dark Jeanne to kill me with her ass.
>>181364292
dark jeanne doesn't clear shit in this buff goblins meta
most of the time you won't have a board of your own to buff because you're too busy trying to hold the goblin cock back
>>181364270
The third guy just became Grand Master and all three of them did it with Neutral Blood.
>niggers playing alice shit in unranked
are you fucking serious just fuck off to rank you fucking retard
>erika shitter perfect curves Alice
>manage to scrap by and bring her to 8 hp through 2 alices, 2 cocks
>drops 2 alberts
fuck my shit up senpai
Fuck aggro neutral sword. This shit shouldn't be allowed seriously. Let me dump my whole hand, give it +2/+2, destroy you followers with my bullshit evo effects then as an additional layer to the fuck you bullshit cake I'll draw an entirely new hand with my bullshit 3 drop and oh... your dead wow I'm so good at this game :3
Where are the dragoncucks?
Dude just Oracle into Rabab. It still stomps aggro shits pretty hard.
Oh wait, Alice buffs all my followers where Salamander Breath doesn't clear shit. Wow Dragon sucks when their single card that carries the class does jack shit.
Time to tech in Conflag
>>181364391
>>181364302
Implying this dragoncuck will not kill you in one turn
>>181359460
Still looking for some matches if anyone is available.
Just look at the depth this deck has.
I had a whole three(!!) different plays to win the game on this one!
>>181364571
Better get used to it, Alice seems perfect for doing missions in unranked because you can just use her for classes you don't have optimal decks for.
>>181364071
Humpty Dumpty can be pretty useful at times.
The number of people who don't understand how Lethal Blade works is astounding. He tested it with Carrot the previous turn as well.
>>181364641
You don't like winning or something? Without abyss you will be T3
Shadowverse needs amulets/followers with activated abilities.
>>181364558
Welp, looks like I'm about to craft neutral blood.
>>181364197
Post dick
>>181363420
Just like Ginger, with all the support that WD gave her.
>>181364780
Why the fuck would you even write shit like that
are you retarded
>>181364774
Lethal Blade is my favorite spell. Ultimate cuckery
Is 2 Spawns enough in Neutral blood?
Looks like Neutral Blood is going to be tier 0.
Can't even nerf it without harming other neutral decks.
Cygames has no choice but to directly nerf Abyss.
>>181364839
You're not the only one who gave in
Almost entire ladder is neutral blood with abyss
>>181365027
>Can't even nerf it without harming other neutral decks.
good?
>>181364774
>get lethal bladed
>feed all the debuffed followers into the sacrifice engine
Feels good man.
>The only legendary I got this expansion were 3 of Spawn of the Abyss
How do I recover?
>>181364901
Why are you so mad for no reason, kid? I don't even call you retard
>>181363871
I would vial Hero and Ginger, and strongly consider Minthe, Lord of the Flies and Giant.
>>181365158
its all you need
>>181365112
>get bladed
>play another haunted house +ephemura
thx vampy
>>181365161
"if you dont use a good card the deck will be worse"
you got something deeper to say
Post Neutral Blood decklist.
>>181365027
>cygames
>nerfing leggos
o
i am laffin'
they'll nerf cards like tavo, actress, leader, big knuckle body guard
>>181365112
If only this game had Aristocrats
>>181364783
What do you mean?
Cygames, please buff this card versus goblin.
>turn spawn into a rat
>>181365181
>vial hero
>just consider lord
retard
>>181364860
Have fun.
This is probably a pretty bad shell, but I don't have belph's and all you really need to be able to do is get 4 or so chip damage in. So it's just an aggro blood shell with a bit more removal and 3 baph+2 cthulhu.
Literally made in like 5 minutes.
>>181365383
don't reply to me dude
>>181359460
Thanks Isabelle.
7/20
>>181365027
Baphomet is going to get gimped.
Better star that goat now.
what
Why is rapunzel used?
>>181365334
>lucius, slayed by goblins
>5 pp
>3/4
>Fanfare: Put an "alice, wonderland explorer" into your opponents hand
>>181364516
Depends. Never really play her on curve but I have played her to control boards real well. Buffing my own stuff to kill their buffed minions and basically trading my weak board away so they start losing fuel. Usually boards that have been pinged by snow white and stuff yet they never messed with because they'd rather go face. Not only that the new tin can and snow white enable her to be even better. Snow white since you can kill her off for her rush and free dogu buff. It's usually never a turn 6 play but a finisher as they run out of gob steam. It sucks though since the gob train may or may not run out on turn 8 or so. I love when I jeanne then themis as they try to rebuild a board.
>>181365048
Perfect curve blood sure is scary.
Literally saved myself with a scrap golem.
>>181365334
Honestly, all they need to do is remove actress/alice's +1 defense.
They do that and that god like curve won't be so godlike. A board of X/3's is ridiculously sticky.
>>181365449
>boy who cried wolf
is he good?
>>181364898
Teena is from RoB, two expansions ago. Wait one more expansion and it will be Ginger's time to shine.
>>181365334
>goblins will be buffed before turn 5
Shit
Could they change his effect to destroy all 1 PP followers?
>>181365346
Against Rune I just evolve and attack with Spawn. He's still really good used like that doing 8 burn damage.
>>181365630
What the fuck is this translation
>>181365334
He should be.
fanfare do 2dmg to all 1pp followers.
1 dmg to rest.
Destroy all goblins.
>>181365651
Ginger will literally never be good unless they go full retard and give us a way to play her on turn 4
>>181365332
Cards like these.
>>181365727
cygames english translation is always mediocre/horrible
>yesterday
>abyss is snake v2 looool mlmfao
>today
>wtf cygays abyss is tier 0 nerf now
post expansion svg is the worst
>Urd doesnt overwrite Wyrm God effects
why is this allowed
>>181365630
With all the goblins around he has to eat a removal or evo
>>181365802
We've been saying spawn is OP ever since it was revealed.
>tfw could have gone 5-0 twice in a row if not for Spawn of Abyss
This card is literally the most cancerous piece of shit in Take 2 and makes Bahamut, Aegis and Ouroboros seem like fair cards, how the fuck do you play around this shit?
>>181365762
Is that like Goblin Mage or Demon Eater? What is this used for?
>>181365550
that's a weird looking abyss
>>181365903
It's like demon eater but you can use it as many times as you want by paying one mana.
>>181365334
There is a true Goblin slayer
What should I add/change? This is mostly made from the remnants of aggro bat with some WD pulls thrown in. I've got 4k vials right now.
>>181365630
He's good in that he forces tempo via requiring a form of removal.
And if he doesn't get removed and you can connect to face, it's pretty hard to lose if you get cthulhu down.
And if he does get removed, that's a 2cc dude on the other side that you didn't have to remove or get hit in the face by for a turn.
>>181365903
Your opponent plays removal or attacks you
In response, you activate that, sacrifice the creature that's targeted for removal or that you use to block, then reveal cards from the top of your deck till you hit a creature, which you then add to your hand
MEZAMENASAI
>>181365871
just flare bro
>>181365802
>expansion focuses on neutral synergy
>also gives blood really strong cards
>turns out just combining the two lead to the most oppressive deck
>>181365871
Just win before turn 8 bro.
>>181365803
what do you mean?
>yfw you realize dragon is now THE worst class at using neutrals
>>181365979
Where the fuck are your Baphomets?
>>181365871
Take Two would be absolutely fantastic if they had removed ALL leggos.
Leggoless Take Two would be a blast.
>>181365158
By climbing to fucking gm with that busted piece of shit
>>181366076
>t8
They can dump him on t6.
>win 1 match as bloodcraft
>reroll
>win 1 match as bloodcraft
this was never a thing before. cygames pls
>>181365979
baphomet dude
>>181366107
I just got OTK'd by it
killed wyrm god
next turn he dropped a 10/2 forte, that's alright I had removal and was at 20hp
then he urds Forte and it still came back as 10/2
>>181366127
>>181366226
What should I swap out for him?
>>181366126
I figured before the expansion it'd be the best because of its ramp
but then the alice curve surfaced defeating the entire point of ramping
>>181366032
YARE
A
R
E
>/svg/ was wrong yet again
>>181366203
happened to me with rune
>>181366030
Leap is fun for a few more reasons than just letting you squeeze value out of things that were going to die anyway. In a Shadowverse scenario where instant speed doesn't exist, something like it serves a significant role by being a sacrifice outlet that never runs out, and in it's particular case is a creature tutor for decks that are thin on creatures.
>>181366330
everyone else said otherwise you cherrypicking imbecile
>>181366274
>>181365979
what's the point of sabreur in aggro
>>181366330
Spawn IS a shit card.
The Alice Curve just enables it. Try playing a spawn deck without the alice curve. It's ridiculously painful.
>>181366330
>ragewyrm will be t1 guys, trust me
>fairy dragon is amazing, you don't know what you're talking about
>legendary devil of vengeance
>hope you're ready for another 3 months of shadow and dragon
>>181366330
The real thing that pushes it over the top is that you can evolve it for an instant 8
>>181366498
I am, and it's working, except if I get coinflipped against neutral blood.
>>181365802
What?
This general did a lot of theory crafting on spawn until it achieved it's final cancer form
First decks used fucking demon key and that deck was literally sneks tier bad
>>181366405
It trades well with bane and has enough health to usually live after evolving, does damage to face if needed
>>181366265
huh that's actually pretty good. probably the only way wyrm god will ever be usable desu
well at least it fits the card text since it affects followers that "come into play"
>nerf anomaly because it was too fucking OP
>print spawn
what did KMR mean by this
>>181366405
Does damage to face or a follower
2/4 with bane
heals
its a solid five drop
>>181366330
I said from the beginning that Abyss would be broken when the Nips figure out a perfect deck for it.
The top three players found it and now everyone is netdecking collecting their free points.
Dirt rune is the chemo.
>>181366330
I still think Spawn is bad.
is eagle man worth playing along with lion? Do I need him in times of crisis?
>>181365554
Slightly overstated
Why does everyone think Forest is so weak? It's not actually that bad right now as long as you don't fall for the meme and play the neutral lists.
>>181366517
Anyone that said Ragewyrm would even be playable deserves to be shot.
When did they change (buff) test of strength? Did they change any other cards?
If everyone is tier 1
No one is
>>181366739
Yeah it's not slow ass control lists like people thought Spawn would be played in, instead the strong Neutral curve together with shit like BKB enables Blood to play Baphomet in turn 5 without dying.
>>181366498
>>181366820
>t8 albert that does 8 to face and a follower when evolved
>bad
svg, everyone
>>181366405
2 damage of burn to face or followers.
Trades with pretty much everything.
>>181358767
But this is the worst expansion
Alice will be utter shit tier in 1 week, DO NOT CRAFT it.
>>181367097
Every new expansion is the worst expansion
>>181366901
>is a 3-4PP 4/5 worth playing
It slightly increases your risk of bricking but the potential is too high to ignore
>>181367024
Read
the
OP.
>>181367097
Friend.They have to powercreep this expansion in three months.
>>181359460
I walked away from my game and missed someone, my apologies to that person.
Anyone else?
>>181366820
And you're still fucking stupid, imagine that.
>Everyone running spawn because of GMs running him
>I'm playing dirtrune and I've always got my prof or mutagenic (sometimes with Oz) backin me up
Damn it feels good.
post neutral cthulhu blood list
>>181367126
why are her stockings mismatched
>>181367348
Check last thread, ctrl + f "blood"
>>181365803
Because she doesn't care how the thing comes into play as long as it does.
If you Kaguya Abyss' attack to 1, does he still do 8 unavoidable face damage?
Or did they code that ability to his current attack value?
>>181367409
if you played the game you'd know
>>181367465
Judging by the card text, it does 6/8 damage no matter what his attack value is. Unless the game has some sort of spaghetti HS code going on.
>All spell and effect damage hitting the leader are decreased by 1
Boom, fixed your game cygames.
>>181367493
>playing kusoge
Anyone got a spicy Support Cannon deck that can actually make it past turn 5 in this meta?
>>181367493
>playing gbf
>>181367685
>this meta
>turn 5
Pttttttttttttttttttttttttttttfffhahahahaha
>>181363420
>>181365334
Oh lord if they planned teena and lucius together to deal with this shit cygames must be incompetent.
>>181367685
The best Support Cannon lists don't run Support Cannon desu
>>181367671
>>181367686
This. I much prefer Neutralverseâ„¢!
this neutral curve is giving me cancer
>>181367224
Umm back the fuck off???!
Post Lion memes
>>181366724
If we didnt have an aggro meta I think sky dragon would be fun to use.
>>181366126
>worst
you know theres face dragon right?
>>181367685
support cannon is not viable, anon. its only good for memes
it runs too fucking many 5drops. literally every commander is 5+
give ramp to sword or put cannon at 3pp or something and it might become viable
>>181367740
>>181367837
I can only dream ;_;
>>181358448
Will my queen ever be viable again or is she swimming in the dumpster with Otohime
Is Cinderella really core for a Swordcraft? Barring Meta stuff, is she even useful really?
>stuck on 1.4k - 1.6k points for several hours now
>Turn 6 spawn curves into Emeralda
>If you are in vengeance and have a evo point, you got 20 wholly damage even if the enemy has a ward up
Nice game you got there cykagame.
Apparently private matches timeout eventually
51041
I'm still looking for a few more to feed my pack opening addiction.
>>181368054
at this point, Alice is more core to sword than her
does anyone remember in which chapter shadow isabelle appears? asking for science
>>181367685
the spiciest support cannon deck I saw ran gawain and cinderella
what'd you do is reduce two cinderella's play cost and then justt cycle through them dealing damage with support cannon
not very viable, but pretty funny to watch
>>181368054
>3 pp 4/4 commander
You tell me. Just remember her side effect before doing dumb stuff.
>>181368054
Not exactly core, but a 3 mana 4/4 that only gets bounced by Albert is pretty nuts.
>>181365158
You can play neutral blood. Its insane. Baphomet is gonna get nerfed thanks to abyss.
>>181368325
just like maid did right
>>181368365
how could they even nerf maid, though
It's a good card but not one I would craft. If you pull her from packs then throw her in but if not just use some other bullshit card.
>>181368365
Albert doesn't do 16 damage on turn 6.
>>181368450
Neither does Spawn
>3 hours to complete 4 wins with forescraft
>3 of those wins were just people conceding at turn 1
That aside:
16537
Concede please
>>181368101
Thanks Eris, did you brick the first match or what?
8/20
>>181368450
Neither does Baphomet.
He just tutors him.
>>181368365
Are you retarded? Albert can at least be played around but there is literally no way to play around Spawn. You take damage no matter what.
>>181368512
It does tho bapomet t5 spawn t6 evo trade a follower and 8 to face
>>181368587
>no way
Look at this shitter. I hate this card but MUTAGENIC BOLT.
>>181368528
Thanks Isabelle!
>>181368618
turn 6 lay him down, turn 7 16 damage
>it's a "Swordcraft player doesn't read his cards and returns Cinderella to hand before attacking" episode
>>181368587
Mutagenic Bolt.
Tribunal
Themis
Some haven decks have even begun to run Iron Maidens, to prevent it from attacking. I recall forest has a hand full of those cards as well.
>>181358448
I want to fuck Vampy's mom!
>>181368694
That's still retardedly busted
Should I vital all 3 or just save it just because? I have around 72k vital so im not sure. Why did they nerf reaper? It's not even the real problem with shadow.
>>181368101
Thanks isabelle
9/20
>>181368801
Who knows.
With how hard alice power creeped the meta the nerf was pretty unnecessary.
>>181368747
>themis it
>take 6/8 damage
nice counterplay lmao
>>181368801
There's no reason not to liquefy them if you're not running it in any deck currently. At worst you would just recraft 3 and you'd still be +/- 0 vials.
>>181368801
Vial him. The refund cost is the same as it costs to craft new ones so you'll get him back for nothing if you need him.
>>181368801
do it, its fucks with your curve so its fucking useless, and if it for some reason it gains use againg you can craft it for the same vials
>>181368654
If he plays spawn and evolves you still take 8 damage you shitter.
>>181368747
>tribunal
>themis
Read what the Spawn card does again you fucking idiot.
>>181368801
Absolutely not, he still does his job properly.
>>181368747
>themis
>tribunal
>bahamut
These all make you take 6 damage regardless if they attack or not you stupud idiot. 3x6=18 just by the last word. They literally have no counter beside winter caprice and bolt.
>>181368801
There is literally no reason not to vial non-animated nerfed cards. Even if you want them back you craft them again for no net loss.
>>181368747
Pixie mischief also bounces him
I think Cthulhu is fine desu, it's like Blood's own Seraph. It's cards like BKB and Sabreur that tilt me to no end, since they make going first super good for Blood (they get to play their broken fanfares first) while going second is still pretty good for them (BKB is basically Cudgel going second).
Why does Sabreur have bane again?
>>181368884
>>181368934
>>181368952
6 damage is alot better than 16
Wait is Snow, Whitecat Sage really alices pet cat?
I thought the red queen was it
>>181368934
If he hits something you shitter.
>>181368774
BRING BACK MY SAHABAHA ZELL COMBO. FUCKING CYGAMES.
>>181368801
They nerfed him because they're avoiding nerfing the true problem
Wink wink, nudge nudge
>>181368747
Literally just 10pp Lightning Blast.
armpits...
>>181369001
Because blood obviously needed a broken five drop to play after their broken four drop
>>181369092
just roost bro
>>181369070
Why the fuck would you play spawn on an empty board against Rune?
>>181369001
>(BKB is basically Cudgel going second).
BETTER BECAUSE FULL EVOLVE STATS
The fanfare should atleast be evolve locked, then one can argue that full evolve stats is fair since its destroy instead of banish
>>181369070
He still does damage if he dies while stealthed
>>181369209
>stealthed
>>181369019
But it's not a good trade for you either way. You spend that much mana removing his threat and still take a lot of damage. What do you do if he plays another one? Themis/tribunal again and take another 6?
If blood can get it down and you're not rune, good luck. The "can't attack" stuff is nice but it's also very niche.
GIVE
ELF
CARD DRAW
AND
REMOVAL
No Elf Twin Assault is only for neutral deck and is super unreliable.
>>181369001
Sabreur is bullshit. Bkb is bullshit. Spawn is bullshit. Blood will be the shadownigger or this expac
>>181369306
Hey
That's the nature of the game
Either you suck it up and take less damage than you normally would.
just themis shadowbabs
Insidere here
We are going to deploy an emergency Patch on tuesday
>Goblin leader 4pp
>Feria stays 2/2 after evolve
>Princess Kiss 4pp
>CoCK 6pp
>Baphomet can now pull 4 attack followers
>Lion of the golden city 9pp and pulls amulets out of your deck
>corpselord of woe 5/5 stats
>>181369098
Is eachtar even a good nowadays? Is neutral shadow decent?
I've been playing sahadragon and my wincon is basically decking them out by clearing their board.
well I've had my fill
see you guys next expansion
Would you play Spawn or Sabreur here?
>>181369373
really good contribution to the argument my man
>>181369468
Too bad man.
IT FEELS SO GOOD TO USE HER IN MY NEUTRAL BLOOD DECK.
>>181369435
No cause u kill her next turn with ur bs spawn
>>181369019
*plays another spawn after you themis the first one*
Your move
After using this deck for just 1-2 hours in Masters and going on a 10-win streak. I believe it's safe for me to say, this meta is more cancerous than RoBs. This is the same shit that happened with Dorothy. Too strong early game and trading power in general. Then the good mid-game win-con that was easy to obtain.
If you believe this meta is diverse and healthy, understand that all the viable decks being used have the Neutral Craft engine which takes over half of the deck and is the biggest wincon of it.
The reason Neutral Blood (what I'm using and what everyone else will eventually use) is so good is because of the fact it has 3 win-cons. The Neutral Craft Aggro, Cthulhu, and then Mid-Late Game Storm enders.
This meta is a disgusting mess and I suggest getting GM then dropping this game until nerfs come in. That's what I intend on doing.
>>181369373
t.bloodnigger
>>181369435
Spawn. You might get bursted from hand depending on what they have but you can gamble on the 16 swing by him followed up with double Sabreur for game.
>>181369402
>Lion of the golden city 9pp and pulls amulets out of your deck
This would actually be a buff, so I'm okay with it.
>>181369435
Depends entirely on if he has evolved a Feena and not played an extremely obvious neutral curve.
He'd still need 2 Roachs or a Guidance to kill you though as he's at 4 cards.
>>181369435
Is there any risk of him killing you at 6? If he didn't play any Goblin/Feena then he might not even run roach for some reason.
Also, if you don't play Spawn here, how do you ever win the game?
>>181369435
Unless they're running roach and has a hand with nothing but roaches and that 1 PP bounce card natures something
it'd probably be safe to play the spawn
Anyone has the animated Alice? I didn't save it last thread
>>181369587
>didn't post deck
Nice lies, now kys
>>181369402
>expecting me to believe this after 3 months of midshadowverse
>>181369587
Why does the spacing change for my post when it looks different in quick-reply
It looks so unnecessary.
How to make Elf not shit? B&B is good but I hate Alicecraft.
>>181369435
How about we focus on the fact that you have a do nothing on the field.
>>181369605
>>181369637
>>181369641
>>181369608
>>181369539
Spawn was correct apparently.
Just thought it was an interesting situation.
>>181369402
>Baph can pull 4 attack followers
Bloody Marie meta incoming!
>>181369587
Didn't you say you were quitting yesterday?
>>181365158
I got 3 Corpselord of Woe. Count your blessings.
>>181369749
try expanding the qr window next time
>>181369587
At least post a deck my guy.
>>181358575
>>181358829
I suspect that Scarlet Sabreur is based off Julie D'Aubigny who inspired multiple fictional characters named Red Sonja. She was possibly the most famous female swordfighter in European history, who was known as an agressive bisexual lover and an even more aggressive sword fighter. She once infamously wounded a man, quite badly, in a sword duel and then came to his room later, while he was convalescing and had sex with him. She also loved many women too and fought duels with numerous men. She was a skilled saber fencer and never lost.
Deepest lore.
>>181369791
Obviously it's near uncounterable bullshit
>>181369821
I need to get GM first for the rewards. Then I'm done. Just 10,000, so it only takes like 2-3 days.
Guys, I know the problem with Cthulhu.
This is literally Blood's version of having aggro roach.
Same general clock range. Same general ability to not give a fuck about whatever kind of "answer" the opponent has, barring winter's caprice/mutagenic. Same general ability to play "enough" tempo/counter-aggro cards to win against fast aggro. It even has the ability to "fall back" on just being an aggro deck and going face.
Except unlike Roach, it only takes having the mental capacity of a bobby pin to actually pilot it. It also takes less setup/dedication to the combo.
>>181369791
>he passed turn 9
what the heck
>>181369402
Why did they give Haven one of the best 2 drops in the game?
>>181369920
Roach doesn't require thought, don't delude yourself, bitch.
>>181369790
A do nothing which allowed me to Revelation on turn 7
Would have lost the game without it
>>181369939
He didn't have an answer and couldn't kill me so I guess he just assumed he lost
>tfw Oz draws mutagenic and turns spawn into a rat
>>181369790
It actually works in CBlood
The Alternative is the deal 6dmg draw cards amulet
>>181369791
It's one that I'm in constantly with that fucking deck. It's why this expac is so fucking stressful for me.
Why couldn't I just unpack some Cinderellas or lions?
12074 Lets earn some coin, lads.
>>181370031
>tfw you're too slow and already lost so they dont even need to play down spawn
>>181370031
>tfw concede that game and don't see rune for another 15 matches
>>181369402
>Baph can pull 4 attack followers
>I could finally have a reliable way of pulling Bloody Mary
I can dream
>>181370160
15 is generous
Rune is honestly the worst matchup for the deck, good thing nobody plays it
>>181370004
Roach at least can get fucked by wards and forest has laughable ways to get past them
>>181370004
Mate, this is roach if roach didn't need a bunch of fodder fairies to amp its damage up with and a shitton of removal to clear the way.
>Playing Mid Sword
>Opp triple Abyss me
>kind of hate the current meta
>at the same time kind of thriving in it
I don't know how to feel right now.
Can I get a concede? 97817
>>181369408
Eachtar is still as broken as always
except now games end at turn 6 or less
Lion Haven, would Ding Dong be better than Unica?
>>181370031
> tfw oz is the last card in your hand and draws 5 followers
>>181370437
It sucks but it's much better than ToTG.
>>181368101
I've got a bit more time today.
Anyone else able to lend a hand?
>>181370440
Thanks Forte
Loving every laugh
>>181370250
*plays 0pp homecoming*
>>181370525
I don't even play Unica.
>>181359028
Shouldn't Lecia be smaller than Cindy since Cindy has bigger stats?
>>181370525
>0atk follower in an aggro/tempo deck
73
>>181370772
Tempo needs card draw and sacred plea ruins your lion pulls
Dark Alice with Test of Strength is fucking retarded.
Did I spend my globe well /svg/?
>>181370440
Are you still there?
>>181370550
Yeah, its like you know when you're gonna lose in this meta way faster then in TotG
If I know I'm going to lose turn 4, hey fine, ok, short game, next one please
But TotG you could be beating a dragon or shadow for 6 turns but then start losing because their cards were way more value.
>>181370869
>sacred plea ruins your lion pulls
>>181370636
>Survives until turn 9
Sure you will buddy
>>181370898
He actually did it, the absolute madmanYes
>>181370898
I want her to giggle at how pathetic I am
When are we getting 4pp 2/3 Goblin Leader, 9pp Lion, and 4/7 Spawn with 8/10 damage last words?
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a modern Haven list? I have to do this daily.
How do people make that sped up replay footage? Just had a spectacularly sloppy cancer vs cancer game.
>>181370898
webm where faglord
Does this list look ok or are there too few 2 drops? I really like the idea of running Taboos, though.
>>181370898
Please post webm
>>181371026
end of the month
>>181371026
>buffing spawn
WHHHHHHHHHHHHY
>>181371067
By repeated clicking the fast forward arrow.
>opponent enhance grimnir's to clear all my things and put me in lethal range
>i enhance grimnir to actually get lethal
>opponent ragequits
Why are the Japanese such huge bitches? I literally used the same shit you did. PS nerf grimnir
>>181371152
>can't be pulled by Baph because less than 5 attack
It's only good in faster blood decks because it can be discounted.
>>181370437
It's a good meta. They basically buffed all of the neutral cards to elevate them above all the removal that had to be printed on account of Otohime and Daria.
Unfortunately, that also deposits Rowen straight back into the dumpster. Breath of Salamander went from a fucking one-sided Themis to meme status.
>go first
>never draw a good curve
>go second
>opponent draws a perfect curve
nice game shadowbabs
>>181370898
be sure to be dedicated to your wife anon
>>181371036
>put in a bunch of goblins, 2-drops, and alice
>add in some lions and eaglemen
enjoy you're gold
So basically you have to have power plays that trade twice in one turn as your 4pp and 5pp plays now right
>>181370630
I'm surprised he didn't draw half of his deck with that dumb slut rabbit.
>>181371026
>Cygames
>nerfing legos
>>181371228
Can I have a concede? <3 - 80437
>>181370630
whats the interaction here? if you play and end the turn, the damage is dealt first on the dykes turn so you win right?
Does anyone haven deck still use moonbunny?
>>181369893
nice
>>181371402
>final moves on both sides is Grimnir
I don't see how this card hasn't been nerfed yet.
>>181371464
Correct
Thanks for the private matches anons.
I even got a legend!
Y-yay...
>>181371464
yes
what packs should I prioritize in? I have 2 alberts and id also love to play a cheap agro bloodcraft soon
Can someone give me a Neutral Sword list without needing Cinderella?
>>181370737
Perspective.
>>181371402
literally just happened to me and my opponent ragequit
>>181371290
Just JO conflag
>>181370869
Except it doesn't since Lion only destroys amulets that you choose from hand. Play the fucking game before posting.
>>181371290
He still has wrath drake and conflag.
>>181371554
how many packs did you open for that?
prebuilts neber eber
>>181371402
Stop spamming your stupid garbage game. Nobody gives a fuck.
i swore i was losing every match but apparently i got 7 for the 7 wins daily. they went by so fast, pretty sure i lost half of them... i can't remember any of them, they were all just goblins every game
>>181369668
Anyone please? I need it for reasons.
>>181372515
Just craft an alice and spend your seer's globe on her.
>>181369587
Post dick, faggot.
>opponent doesn't draw diabolic drain or rev in 15 cards
>win
I'm so skilled
If an opponent has flame rats on his field and they would kill us both would i win?
>>181372446
Just showing the awfulness of this game, bro.
>>181372863
if its gonna kill both at the same time, the one who loses is the one who gets his turn
so, him
>>181372863
Flame rat only trigger on their turn, if you opponent died first on their turn, you win even if both of you reach 0 hp.
How to beat storm chickens with a control deck?
Can someone give me a workable Seraph deck?
Man, this was a really hard-fought victory.
A true nail-clincher.
Had to think real long and hard to figure out the proper play here.
>>181373062
I love spawn so much.
>>181373062
>big guy
Nice game in unranked
Anyone have daily forestcraft deck? I want to complete 1 forestcraft daily.
>>181373062
I love Spawn.
Mainly because I opened 2 of him.
>>181373476
Look anon, is it that hard to fill a Forest deck full of neutral cards now that neutral is overpowered?
>>181373476
Just make an Aggro Neutral deck for Forest. Bam, Dailies are done for WLD.
>>181371240
Because the tales about how hardcore are the japanese in videogames was always a lie. They always choose broken or the most op shit and cheese everything they can, if they lose they call you a hacker or they will ragequit.
Nips are a piece of shit without any honor.
The 2 crafts that have the best Craft based cards are Blood and Haven. Honestly both are exciting because even if you nerf the neutral cards, you can see that they aren't going to be affected as much as the others. I think Rune is the 3rd.
Lol holy fuck, I'm playing neutral blood and its such bullshit. Turn 7 16 damage. If the Abyss plan doesn't work out you still got Alice and gang to board flood and vice versa.
Someone post that one decklist that had nothing but neutrals
>>181373718
Sword is 3rd but their cards are extremely synergistic with neutral. Neutral nerfs would hurt sword the most out of any class.
>>181373801
>literally just put 2 broken wincons in the same deck
>it works and they don't even have to synergize with each other
SV deckbuilding at it's finest
>>181372267
10
I'll admit the number of golds were decent
God blood is so fucking broken in t2
>>181373848
Sword didn't get any shit for their craft. Only Council.
>>181373062
New interaction fore rune.
If you play Ginger + Hulking giant + mythtil golem on the same turn , the giant and golem fuse together and banishes the other side of the board and creates a 12/13 super Golem that cant be destroyed by dmg and destruction spells/effects and bane.
I want Eachtarverse back.
True Necromancy > Dirt Necromancy
>>181374172
Kill yourself Shadownigger
>>181374172
Kill yourself.
>tfw fell for the spawn meme and now it's T1
feels fucking good man
>>181374131
Council and Rabbit.
>>181370898
As long as you spent it on a card you like I'd say it's well spent. Good for you.
>>181374236
If I was a shadownigger, I would be playing neutral blood/sword right now.
>>181374131
Wrong
Cinderella, rabbit, maisy, kiss, flame
>>181374214
>Dirt Necromancy
It's called geomancy, you stupid shadownigger.
>>181374214
holy fucking shit you played eachtar !!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!1 HOW THE FUCK HOLY SHIT!!! :ddd : ))(8
>>181374329
>Cinderella
You can opt to not have her in a deck and it would still work fine.
>>181374172
>Every shadow deck ran headless man of board flooding for three months
>No nerfs
>Literally every deck can run Alice for early game sweeps
>??????
>>181374214
>taboo is gold
>summons 2/2 zombies
>eachtar is legendary
>summons 4/2 rush zombies
Is Alice necessary in an Aslan deck?
>>181374474
they won't nerf legendaries
>>181374543
Alice is the best investment for at least 3 months. We all know how pathetic cygames' nerfs are anyway so there's no way it gets hurt.
>>181374391
>alchemy
>geomancy
Are you retarded?
>>181374543
It depends on what the focus of the deck is. If you're filling it with neutral stuff to get a t4/5 Lion, not having Alice would be really detrimental to the strength of the deck. If you just want to play storm with Lion, then obviously not.
>>181373718
I agree
1 abyss and I was at 4 health
>>181374734
>neutral rune
Show me the D
im an assman and i find that isabelles breasts fill me with lust
help
>>181374873
You type the word neutral in, then put Levi, Oz and burn
>>181374938
You know you can like both tits and ass, right?
Alright, time for some extended mom posting. This was such a fucking struggle.
>>181374214
>corpselord
why
>>181374993
>Oz in neutral
>>181375108
>>181374993
>levi, oz, burn
Nah
I just put in falise, mutagenic, piercing runes and witch of sweets in there
Levi doesn't work that well in the deck
>>181375108
Is that a spectator/replay bug or can Tove go face in that situation?
>>181375168
>card draw engine and fishing for burn reach
>not in any rune aggro deck
>>181375310
Tove has been on board for a turn, for what reason wouldn't it be able to go face.
Bullying dirty mages.
This game is dead to me with this expansion.
T1 goblin -> T2 whatever neutral 2 drop -> t3 goblin leader -> t4 alice going first is the most opressive shit ever. Old catacomb curve weeps in a corner to this shit.
Alot of people play the same god damn deck even though they're different crafts just because of the raw VALUE you get out of the Alice engine. Sprinkle with some of your own legos and spells and you're good to go. It's fucking annoying playing mirror matches to this degree.
Blood is propably the worst offender though. BKB and Esmeralda are completely busted free removal with no drawbacks, with Esmeralda even having 4/5 storm for 7pp, completely powercreeping Alucard and Soul Dominator.
Spawn is an Aegis tier finisher that can't be dealt with once out, and can be out by turn 6, compared to Aegis' 9.
I will propably quit this game until the meta settles because for now it's the worst its ever been.
>>181375108
>>181375290
>all this board interaction
So good.
>>181374516
>why is every gay alchemist worse at making zombies than a demon that innately commands the dead
>>181374214
haha holy shit eachtar saves the day xd
http://www.strawpoll.me/13334450
>>181375407
You are just a shitter. This meta is way better than Tog.
>>181375407
welcome to card games
So what is Forest's playrate going to be this expansion?
>>181374131
>only
>5pp 3/9 storn/bane/ward
>only
>>181375406
I want to lick the dirt off Isabelle's body.
>>181375642
like 1% desu
>>181375642
The Forest decks aren't too bad this expansion.
>>181375584
>banning cards because muh hurt feelings
D0?
who quit playing here? I'm done with this shit
>>181375774
Good riddance.
>>181375716
But why would anyone play them when you can make sword, haven, or blood with 25-30 of the same cards and just have a better deck?
>>181375774
Once I get GM, then I'm out until Goblin Leader and Baphomet nerfs.
>>181375774
Why would I? The game is better than ever.
>>181375774
Just doing dailies now, if I get something too annoying to do I just reroll into a solo mission.
Got other games to play, don't need to sit here and eat goblin or spawn dick all day.
>>181375849
Good question my friend
But remember what anon said!
>B&B is basically a turn 6 aegis
See? Just slap down your basically aegis on turn 6 and enjoy your free wins
Forest was never in a better spot
>>181375108
Post dick
>>181375858
>Baphomet nerfs
>>181375898
>The game is better than ever.
>spawnigger decks in unranked
Just end this shit
12063 passing, 5/20 come face me.. pun intended
>>181358867
>thinking thats swordcraft you're playing
Miss me yet?
>>181376082
thanks mama forte, 6/20
kys shadowniggers
Is hirobosu /ourguy/?
>>181376031
>Just slap down your basically aegis on turn 6
And die to spawn or get turned into a rat and die next turn.
Really powerful Aegis.
>>181375898
People really believe this shit is better than Tempest?
>Meta is super interactive
>Almost no bullshit cards that prevent you from playing
>Havencraft is slightly stronger than the rest but is far from unbeatable
>Everything else except forest is about even
>Some retards still complaing
Forestcucks and scrubs/newfags fuck off. Just stop playing if you don't like it and kill yourself.
>>181376451
>not Deviant Heart
Nah.
How are refined Lion Haven lists looking these days? Do they run Plea? Eagle Man? Frozen Mammoth?
>>181376484
forestbros are gentlemen, im pretty sure its shadowniggers that cant deal not reaching to turn 7
>>181376386
No.
>>181376538
My nigga.
Deviant Heart is the best flair.
Nice game
>>181376082
thx M U, 7/20
>>181376565
You are doing something wrong if you don't reach T7.
I remember complaining about DE meta back in the day, but really thinking about it, the deck variety was really good then.
>>181376386
I played Dragon during Tempest. Never really had a problem with you.
>>181376707
Yeah, you're supposed to lose to the 16 damage to your face on turn 7. Not before.
>>181361907
You can't expect netdeckers to manage basic math.
Remember when you could just kill your opponent with minions and didn't have to rely on 10+ damage combos to end games before seraph/aegis/bahamut/grimnir/dshift make board meaningless?
>>181376484
>implying it's not shadowniggers bitching
>>181376740
>everyone that had money playing elf
>everyone that didn't playing sprint/elana
>variety
>>181376554
>plea
sure
>mommoth
no
>eaguru kikku
depends, 1 or 2 max to avoid bricks
someone please give me an elana decklist
>>181376980
>everyone that has money playing spawn
>everyone that doesn't playing neutral aggro
>>181376082
thx blacked 8/20
>>181376740
The deck variety is great right now.
>>181377013
Yeah I cut out the mammoths. What would you change about this list? I feel like there's still much to be desired.
>>181377195
b-but everyone runs alice
Is lion champion any good against aggro?
>>181376484
The meta's actually been great so far aside from Haven being good again.
outside alice :DDD shit s gr8, stop complaining tards
>>181377161
>neutral aggro
>playable without money
Sprint needed literally zero legendaries while neutral needs Alice bare minimum and usually a pile of busted golds as well. It's only "cheap" in the sense that one core will get you through any class's dailies.
Alice isnt even the broken card
Goblin Leader and Feria are
>>181376034
Sure. Stuck forever at 1.5k, though. Might need to make some adjustments.
>>181376821
Shadow shits on neutral so I'm actually pretty okay with it. Classes that get cucked are ones with bad removal like non-neutral sword, dragon, and elf.
>>181374131
Dumb swordnigger
Can I get a concede? 51253
>haven, rune, sword and blood are doing great
>a mix between tempo, aggro, control and midrange decks
this is it bros
>>181377161
Neutral Spawn isn't that expensive. Just 3 alices and 2 Abyss. I'm sure you can dust some trash golds/ legends/ silvers and make it.
>>181374214
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
How can either party have fun when the games over by turn6?
Fucking grimnir doesn't make the cut in some decks because the game is always decided before turn 10
>>181377483
goblin leader is fine
a card that buffs youre neutral hand and neutral board is not
a card that buffs everything on youre board for a single evolve is not
>>181376484
Fuck off D2
>>181377740
I'm in masters, you shitter.
>>181377709
>goblin leader is fine
>a 3pp 1/2 neutral that spawns 1/2 neutrals
>when sword has a 3pp 1/2 1/2 that doesnt spawn more 1/2s
>>181377606
thanks forte!
Need a concedu preasu
27924
>>181377704
japanese salary men with no time for control or long matches have fun
>>181376454
That was the problem with Aegis though. You play it on turn 9, do nothing, then die to Eachtar. If you play it on a full board, you're not winning, but if you play it on an empty board, you've basically won barring combo shenanigans.
That's like the exact same thing as B&B. Forest just can't control the board as well.
>>181377704
>always
Neutrals mirrors can actually drag sometimes, because you have to trade, so the opponent can't buff his shit up
>>181377917
I want to sniff their socks
>>181377620
Remove Neutral cards and haven, rune, and blood remain. Sword is fucked beyond help. Shadow can come back but is now tier 2 when you remove neutrals. Dragon is at 1.5.
So whats the best way to play Forestcraft without conceding?
>>181377704
Grimnir is great on Turn 3. He stops the 1 and 2 drop. Get good
>>181377704
>reee i dont get to play eachtar
>>181377917
Thanks Forte mama
Someone be a madman and play pure storm ramp in ranked and report back how it goes
I can't risk my 2k rating
>>181377704
Good, playing against Control decks are a waste of time.
Fucking Snow White is fucking strong. This bitch.
>Still missing a lot of legendaries and almost finished my gold WD cards, what cards you still missing /svg/ ? (I already collect all bronze and silver cards btw)
>tfw owlcat's finally mvp
>>181378049
I recommend matches against AI or story content.There really isn't any, you either play neutral b&b or roach with twin assault. Either will net you below 50% winrate and frustrating matches
What deck should I play to appease momposters?
>>181376484
>meta is super interactive
>goblin -> 2/2 -> leader -> alice
wew
>>181378280
Haven
>>181378197
T2 Snow White is the only possible way to win going second.
>>181378280
Nublood
>>181377483
Alice is absolutely busted because she still has great stats for her cost and she buffs your hand too so you don't even have to think about what you put down. Even Daria decks at their height required infinitely more thought than the mindless Alice vomit engine
So this... Is the power... Of neutralcraft...
>>181378384
She's honestly a core card now of Haven. She's that good. Only problem is isn't haven loaded in the 2PP spot? But well at least it's 2PP.
>>181378453
>vomit alice
>you're out of cards and die miserably to clear
>vomit daria
>you get 5 cards back and flood again the next turn
>>181378476
>going second
>no board on t5
Yeah he's fucked
The meta is only "interactive" in that the opponent plays a ridiculous threat that if you don't kill it you die. Goblin Leader, Actress, Spawn, refilling the board with one card like Lion and CoCK, etc. Your "interactions" are limited to "opponent plays card, I react or get buried"
>>181378476
wow...it's almost like going first is more important than the deck...
>>181378487
She'd be core in any class. Easily replaces Ancient Elf as the best card in the game.
>>181378140
The ones with all the heals still works. But I've bandwagoned onto Neutral Blood. Sorry dragonbro.
>>181378140
just put in some unicas and wrath drake you shit stain
Forest fucking sucks
>>181378592
Going second is great as sword though. Free whole-soul tempo and extra evolve points to spend on the best evolve drops in the game. It's not like they're even aggro anymore either.
>>181378578
Daria runs out of steam just as easily, if you can clear the board she puts down after Daria comes out then you're pretty much good and Daria decks can brick incredibly hard. Having multiple Darias in your hand is pretty much an instant loss and Oglers rot in your hand if you draw them too early
>>181378280
Only the noble ambush sword
>>181378453
In practical situations Alice rarely if ever buffs more than 1 or 2 cards.
>>181378197
I remember feeling disappointed when she was revealed. Her effect effect wasn't that impressive on paper but in practice she's great. Now I'm very happy for pulling two copies on day one.
>>181378702
ETA is OP
What is KMR thinking releasing such a ridiculous card
Now forest is going to dominate the meta for 3 months
>>181378605
That's literally any digital ccg.
If we had instants and could play cards during the opponent's turn, it would actually be interactive.
But Tanaka-san, japanese salaryman, has no time for that. He needs to finish the match within 10 minutes or he might be late to work.
>this morning
>get to 1000 master points ez
>7 hours later
>lose 800 points almost in a row
Was crafting neutral sword this early a mistake? Is neutral blood going to be the shadowniggers of this expansion?
>>181378091
What does the text say?
>>181378578
>clear daria vomit after daria comes out
>they're fucked unless their daria pulled another daria
>clear alice board vomit
>CoCK
>>181378758
>whole-soul
>>181378797
It's good but forest sucks so it doesn't even matter
>>181378140
Wish me luck senpai
>>181378836
Neutral sword seem to fall off, now that people got the hang off the meta
Dirt rune, neutral blood and lion haven seem to be the strongest decks
>>181378797
It's a good card for neutral.
But why bother running neutral forest when you can do neutral sword or neutral blood?
Don't like neutral? Play dirt or lion instead.
Forest is just subpar at this point. The lack of good cards for 3 whole expansions is showing.
>>181378804
>10 minutes
2 minutes
>>181378932
You can do it anon
Let them hear the dragons roar
>>181378630
She's not even core in the best variant of Haven.
It has been a few days. I wanna see what you guys really think.
https://strawpoll.com/18w8f1b
HIP HIP
>>181376980
>>everyone that had money playing elf
Anon what are you talking about, I started playing the day DE came out and had a competed PtP list in 4 days.
>>181378994
>non-neutral Lion
>>181358448
it puzzled me if it was queen vamp, sexy vamp or even vampy till i used iqdb...
>sword had no draw engine, gets neutral based draw
>haven already had plea, gets another one
>shadow had soul conversion, gets another one on a 1/2 body
So why didn't forest get draw too? Is it too much to ask?
>>181379073
>go second
>draw 0 ramp
>against kys blood with perfect curve jammer nutdraw
Why you do this to me game?
>>181379290
fuck elf
>>181379290
You got faeries
>>181364197
yeah I think I'm done with this game
>>181379228
Could be worse. I got an animated one.
>>181379228
Free vials
>>181379316
Cygames has to reward whales.
>>181379223
>without taking into account neutral
why?
>>181378140
your better off cleaning the board instead of going face anon
>>181379290
how about reading your own cards
How long until we know the winners of the leader poll?
>>181378932
How about a storm ramp-ala neutral? Those that run a standard board flood, ramps, and with some ainas for buffing.
i suddenly like midrange shadow players
what happened
how many spawns do you need in your deck
Is 1 enough?
I want to try out this meme, but don't want to sink 10500 vials on this
I honestly think that Garuda Haven > Lion Haven right now. The only question I have, though, is are the 2 copies of Themis worth it or should I run something else?
>>181379518
I do too. Eachtar can't touch my Spawn.
>>181379541
you can probably pull off 1 but 2 is the 'safe' amount
youll also need 3 gobu and 3 bapho
>>181379495
It shouldn't have taken more than an hour for Cygames to "tally up" the votes, so I have no idea why we haven't already gotten that info. Maybe they're waiting for some event to announce the coming leaders and build some hype.
Are there any events on the horizon where this game could show up?
>reroll 1 win forest quest
>get it again
What the fuck? I didn't even think that'd be possible.
Anyone got a decent forest deck to use for a couple of wins?
just ____ bro
>>181379518
Yeah, me too. They're like the only matchup I'm confident of beating. Shadow became the Forest of ToG.
>>181379518
i like free wins too anon
>>181379652
bp74
Should be enough to win some if you have alice already.
Is this a tranny or just an autist?
>>181379662
just spawn bro
>>181379359
>only one
>>181378787
>2pp 3/4
Yeah totally difficult to see how good that card was. Fucking /svg/ shredding this card during reveal for no reason
>>181379797
O-oh. The thought is appreciated though anon. I'll probably craft the 2 needed alices and cobble together some stupid neutral abomination.
>>181379864
>animated alice
FUCK OFF
>>181379868
she is only 3/3 when attacking
/svg/ was still retarded to bash a sticky overstatted 2drop, the only problem was that she might not have fit into havens archtypes
>>181379579
You're supposed to put Garuda into Lion Neutral.
>>181379928
Sorry if it's too expensive.
Just get Alice, 9 2pp cards, goblin leader and grimnir. Put it all together and hope to curve out.
Keep playing until it works.
>>181379928
Just make an all neutral deck that works for all classes. It's actually possible now.
>>181379928
You don't even need B&B, you will eventually curve 12345 going first and win a game
>>181380013
It seems really difficult to find room for everything that I want in a Lion deck, though. Thats the main problem I've been having with it.
>>181379928
Honestly B&B is way too slow
>>181369058
the "main" alice's pet cat was dinah, in the first book when she mused "do cats eat bats" it was dinah in her mind, then she accidentally mentioned ("ou est ma chatte", btw the word "chatte" in the modern french almost always means "pussy" in the sense "cunny") and praised dinah to a mouse that she met in the pool of tears and annoyed the poor animal
dinah had two kittens in the second book, snowdrop and kitty, who became white and red queen correspondingly. kitty is a pretty non-imaginative name for a kitten if you ask me, alice could invent a better one
>no wizardess of oz leader
>>181380485
>quality
>>181379826
looks as a victorian lady
>>181380296
Are you trying to run Aegis or something?