Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

First for blizzard fucked up

>>181262532
>admiral
>doesn't command any summons
>entire playstyle revolves around "just throw some healshit for allies to play then SMASH WITH GIANT FUCKING ARM"

third for blizzard could've been better but was ok

>>181262621
Second for /vg/'s first impression is always wrong

>/hotsg/ suddenly doesn't like tentacles for arms
what went wrong?

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First for beachbutt bestbutt

>>181262869
This, i remember people here saying Malthael was weak when he was on the PTR

>>181262926
last thread was full of koreans complaining that stukov's kit wasn't more RTS horseshit

>>181263024
>koreans
Makes sense, they prefer high skill heroes not bitchass support bottoms

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First for C-String Pantsu Demonhunter

>>181262926
People said his damage would he shit. Which it is. The only reason he is so good is because you can't kill him.

>>181262852
>implying that doesn't sound fun as fuck
fuck off nigger, go play azmodan and jerk off to your summons

>>181263082
They are also autistic retard dog eating rts addicted robots

>>181262532
>OP is actually of the newly announced hero

good job, someone finally got it right for once

>>181262852
>Why isn't every starcraft hero a summon

>>181263024
Why do people even want summons? I don't particularly like having an ability nullified by a modicum of aoe damage

>malthael still top popularity top winrate hero

NERF HIM INTO THE FUCKING GROUND REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>181263082
>vikings are high skill
lmao, fucking micro scrubs

Will Stukov be able to clear waves at all?

>>181263417
Lol l2p he's balanced tho kappa

>>181263168
Isn't it great when shitposters and newfags don't make OPs?

>>181263441
his hentai pit does 144 damage in a circular area per second, so make your own judgement

>>181263441
His hand is AoE.

>>181263532
>Deals 50% reduced damage to non-Heroes

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This is pretty fucked up

>>181263532
50% to nonheroes

>>181263441
Slowly, not too good I think.
>>181263532
>>181263557
50% damage vs non-heroes and small range so you can't hit the entire wave

that cassia dying to lunara's poison despite having tapped the fountain tho

>>181263441
His W pierces all enemies and his E is an AoE (although I'm not sure how fast you can cancel it, it looks like immediately)

Probably shouldn't be in the solo lane but his waveclear isn't Lucio tier

>>181263643
>>181263618
yeah, half damage to nonheroes. However, that is probably level 1 numbers, which means it's basically an autoattack on each minion.

>>181263669
>he still watches HGC after the reveal
lolisports suck, play the game you pedo

>>181263758
make me

>>181263758
>lolisports
I would watch this, assuming it's 2D

DIGNITAS BTFO

>>181263715
it'll be a biit less DPS than dva
and he might have trouble hitting the whole wave at once without the level 1 increased aoe talent

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This Abathur got MVP.

>>181263805
Got me game started, I'm ready to play with you when you are
Just play the game

>>181263641
Reminds me of the time when I was younger and still enjoyed Egocuck videos on newgrounds.

https://youtu.be/e5sKMipORAc?t=27

>>181263919
eu or na
also i'm eating something rn

>>181263504
>kappa
holy fuck please neck yourself

>>181263643
>>181263532
Warrior minions only have like 700ish hp, casters and leaders are like 400-500 hp. Scaling into later game its only like 1khp on warriors at 20mins.

Assuming its 144 + 4% / lvl, he'll do 315 damage per second before the 50% reduction, which makes him pretty okay at waveclearing, Slightly better than tassadar IMO. Especially with the 50% increased aoe for channeling for 2.5s at leve 1 and the 50% range increase at level 7.

Its not the best because it's a channel, but it's better than nothing in a pinch. You can potentially even use it to set up a bit of siege at a wall.

>>181262532

>>181262147
>>181262584

I FUCKING HOPE THAT THIS HAPPENS!

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best girl best waifu

>>181263884
Depending on his build, the locusts can be quite useless. Especially late game it tends to be safer to sit at spawn instead of trying to get that one little shit locust to walk down a lane

It's not optimal play but at the same time, it's not a big difference. He can set a lane to push in two seconds with his hat

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13265933

>>181264261
>not soaking exp at all times
???

>>181264024
eu like all the good players, bruvluv
just hit that QM button, i'm a nova main you'll notice me rite away

>>181264028
>hating on da twitch meme
y u mad tho??? it's just a meme baka

>>181263884

quick meme shitters deserve everything they get.

>>181264130
Whats gonna happen is that they should announce WC3 remastered to be released next year, then release KT for that announcement and then release another BW hero in August when they release BW:R, Im betting on Mengsk or Fenix for August.

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>>181264261
>Getting more exp is useless

>>181264375
yeahhhh i think i'm good

Is there any situation stukov would be a better pick than rehgar or uther? They say he is supposed to be a solo support but I just can't see it.

>>181264329
>implying you can't soak exp with the hat
Also body soaking when the enemy has global movement or stealthers is pretty dangerous

>>181264473
He's basically super Malfurion/Auriel.

He can heal 5 people for like 700+ healing with two buttons at level 1 and only use like 20 mana doing it. Hugely powerful healbot with a lot of control.

>>181264473
His Q seems to have quite nice sustain so against teams that poke then go in for a kill, you'll have 2 tools to counter both, also lots of CC to setup and disengage/counterengage
I think he generally works in most comps unless they can punish grouping up hard

>>181264130
Next WoW expansion is not gonna be Lich King part 2 tho, maybe some raid for him but he is not gonna be the main plot

>>181264473
Pox populi or universal carrier on a late game siege. You just keep fucking healing all the damn time, while channeling a long range large aoe silence / damage. and if anyone actually charges you, just hit them with your massive zerg dick.

>>181264473
He is better than both of them in braxis and probably sky temple

>>181264463
Locusts don't soak exp though. You get exp only when they get the last hit and their damage is not much different from the normal creeps

>>181264771
>universal carrier
-60% healing done seems like too much to be picking that talent

>>181264771
>with your massive zerg dick
duck penises came to mind
in a sense it fits because his abilites turn him into a sitting duck

>>181264473
His R Arm big Cum can save a lot of games when some tank is attacking your core

>>181264928
it's only on the overtime heal, it's still base 100 heal, it's like a constantly active malf heal on everyone and you're always ready to pop your D.

>>181265034
>enemy comes for your core
>push them all the way back to their own core
Or do the opposite when going for enemy core

There are going to be some hilarious videos of people landing the perfect pushes with this

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Cheers love, the _____ is here!

>Everybody thinks that Massive Shove it's a big zerg dick
never change /v/

>>181264928
Look at it as a mana saving anti-poke talent. Every point of mana not spent on Q can be spent elsewhere, and its infinite free healing so long as you are around someone else. Great for deathballs which is apparently his niche.

>>181264771
With universal carrier, *if* i have my numbers right, you're still healing people for 180 hp / 4.5 seconds which is about 40hp per second, with the option to pop it for 936 ( * 1.5 for the level 4 quest).

>>181264928
Yes the -60% healing does seem harsh, but it is well above lucio's passive healing at that level, and you can hit a button for a pretty fucking big heal. Dependong on what the cooldown on his Q is, you can just let it passively run while your team sieges and pop it on cooldown

Pox Populi also doesn't reduce the healing which is about 450 / 4.5s or 110/s it just refreshes the heal over time, so that's a good 450 + 1500 + 450

so is cho'gall a legit ranked pick or is he just for fun?

>>181265219
>Two stukovs crashes their dicks at the same time
I want to see that

>>181262852
You don't get it anon.
He doesn't have any summons because you're supposed to be commanding your retarded team.

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>>181264329
As a Zeratul player, I look for locusts at all times and if you aren't in spawn, I take great pleasure in walking behind the fort, setting up and killing Abashit in a combo then teleporting out with a little damage. The one thing Abathur players cannot handle is dying, and when I get 3 kills, I pee my pants thiinking of the full-tilt going on in their chat regarding Abathur being a player down AND feeding exp to the enemy, and Abathur mad that he can't play the way he wants. So delicious. I pity the Novas and Valeeras that cannot know such joys.

>>181265360
Can be legit if you ban/pick his counters and the map is small, he's like Illidan in that the draft has to be built around him.

I love Chromie!

>>181265418
No homo

>>181265360
>malthael is the best and most popular hero in the game right now
>is chogall a legit pick

really makes one ponder

>>181263082

Stukov is not a healslut.

He's a healdaddy.

>>181265360
if you can pick him with no Malthael on the enemy team, yes

If death angel present, you 're going to feed twice as hard

>>181265551
t. Chromie

>>181265219
You haven't seen his dickwhip?

It's prettymuch like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLcHJN1soY4

>>181265463
Its faggots like you that are doing gods work and making better Abathurs. Seriously I got so much better at Abathur once I started realizing how to deal with Zeratul

>>181265418
First one to contact interrupts the other or if they are at the same time, both interrupted

>>181265463
>tfw Abathur is my most played character and still love doing this to enemy Abathurs as Zeratul

>massive shove has no limit to its range

hahahah what the fuck

>>181263441

Should be amazing waveclear, but not a solo lane, since it's channeled.

>>181265620
>unironically posting Burch videos

fuck off & fuck you for posting this,.

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6khn3k/stukov_talentability_list_and_screens/

Stukov's talents for the next OP

>>181265742
Do we have a problem with them for some reason? I remember it getting posted on /v/ back in the day, did they turn out to be massive faggots somewhere down the line?

TELL ME WHAT TO BE ANGRY AT ANON.

>>181265690
Those flailing arms are hilarious

>>181265719
They know nobody will use it so they have at least make it worthy of youtube.

>>181264680
I can make up perfect situations for Lucio and Brightwing too if I cared.

the animation for the triple whip is so bad what the fuck

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>>181265615
Do not bully the dragon

>>181265690
>can work together with zarya to remove omnic

cyka blat

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>>181265790
>reddit

>>181265463
>this happens once
>realize it's one of these zeratuls
>set up mines and pay extra attention to where zeratul is on the map to predict when he is coming
>either he walks into a mine or use hat to poke him out of stealth
>watch him either retreat in panic or try to come after me
>at worst both of us die
Another way is to just burrow to the other end of the map when I know he is coming, after leaving a spray ofcourse

>>181265690
thanks for the involuntary B, now explain what happened to all that biomass

>>181263287
Sure, Stukov looks like a good healer with a lot of playmaking potential, but the reason most people are upset is because most HotS characters have some parts of their kits modeled from something they can do in their respective games. Stukov's shtick as acoop commander was having a SHITTON of disposable zombie units and being able to infest enemies or allies that spawned even more broodling units. He essentially was the most heavy unit-spawning commander right next to Zagara, so people are upset that he doesn't have any zombies in HotS.
They did sort of keep his ally regen thing from his story mission though which is good. But they also seem to be pushing a bunch of arm-related abilities too, which is weird because his Zergee arm in SC is just like a normal arm but zergified.

>>181265986
it's formatted better than the destructoid article it's from

>stukovs kit is specifically designed so shitters either feed or annoy their team
Bravo.

>>181265690
Genji has to use at least three swift strikes to get back from that

>>181265636
teach me the secrets
i get blown the fuck up by anyone hunting for me

>>181265690
Some anon who can make a almost infinite transparent version

>>181266117
>no massiveo overextending dive like illidan or genji that encourages feeding
>somehow his kit encourages feeding

>>181265690
This would make a good Shooting Stars edit

>>181265463
Is Abathur so weak that you can kill him under the protection of his own fort?

>>181266298
>flanking with your support for those sick TF winning pickoff dickwhips
I can see it.

>>181265690
https://youtu.be/feA64wXhbjo

>>181266298
>his E is a self stun
>both heroics are self stuns and can save enemies

>Two damage R skills
He need some support R Skill maybe with the viruses

>>181266385
Every stealth hero except Samuro can do it easily. Valeera needs her ulti most of the time while nova can do it with her clone

>>181266385
Abathur has absolutely miserable health and if you catch him unaware he's dead 100% of the time

That said Zeratul has no CC until 10 so I'm not sure if he can race Abathur's burrow to kill him without marked for death or something but that requires Aba to know he's coming

>>181266385
Yes. Only the lost vikings have lower health individually.

>>181266385
After 7, Zera Nova and Samuro can, enough burst to kill before he can escape, Zera can tele the fuck out, Nova has a decoy to soak shots to safely get in and out and Samuro has two decoys that also deal damage
Only Val is fucked until she has ult

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>>181262532
>Starcraft could have had a long involved story of intrigue, love, betrayal, and apotheosis
>instead Kerrigan went super saiyan, Raynor drank himself to death, and they wrote the whole fucking thing into a corner from which it will never emerge

>>181266385
Yeah, if you have any burst at all it's easy

>>181266085
yeah cuz the only thing this game needed more of are summoners, not like we have 2 zerg summoners in the game already and a bunch of diablo ones. fuck off lorefag go stick your dick in azmodans nipple piercings.

>>181266385
Chromie can use the level 1 talent to spot Abathur and then one shot him. This assumes Abathur is not currently looking at himself or the Chromie

>>181266240
Change your position as much as possible and keep an eye on the mini-map for the stealth character and adjust based on where they are. Make sure you have bomb nests around you to stop their approach and don't over extend if you don't know where they are.

Basically you want to waste their time as much as possible. Appear once place for a few moments letting your locusts run in the lane then pop over to another lane. Wasting their time means they aren't farming XP or supporting their team while they chase you while you can easily support lanes and hat your allies.

>>181266706
2 zerg summoners, and 1 more that has a summon ult

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>Brood Wars ends with how Raynor wants to kill Kerrigan dead
>Wings of Liberty begins with how Raynor hates Kerrigan and wants to kill her dead
>???
>Raynor kills one of his best friends to save Kerrigan
>Kerrigan becomes human somehow
>Raynor dies (not)
>Kerrigan becomes zerg again
>Kerrigan is a "good guy" despite doing obviously evil shit
>???
>Raynor hates Kerrigan again

Please fill in the blanks so I can understand the story of Starcraft 2.

>70% slow
>At 13 you can automatically apply it to anyone who dives you

shit is going to be strong as hell. His healing is insane too going by the leaked numbers, 500 burst for everyone on your team starting at level 1

So theres any good change on the ptr like

>more genji nerfs
>valeera finally nerfed as inferior zeratul
>murky being unusable even for bronze and newbs like before?

>>181266940
Love wins

>>181266940
First blank: Kerrigan flaunts her ass
Second blank: Kerrigan gets gangraped by feral zerg (niggers)

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>>181256442
>not wanting a shadowpriest/holypriest multiclass twink fukboi or that one dwarf empress from BRD

>>181266940
>he remembers how much he wants to bone her
...
>he did not get to bone her
There, Raynor is a fucking beta nerd that's why

>>181266940

LOTV ends with kerrigan and Jim repopulating the sector...

Until the UED Shows up led by these guys
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuWCgyDBQo&t=455s

haunted mines is worse than hanamura

>>181266706
I was fine with him being a healer, I need more healers in my roster. I'm just upset he didn't at least have either 1 summon or 1 infestation that turned an enemy unit to ally, if at least temporarily.

>>181267131
moira is shit
she needs to leave my class hall and get replaced by voodoo

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>>181266940
zerg = niggers
humans = white people

he should have gotten an infest fort ult instead of a jojo slap your shit ult

>>181267038
>Valeera finally nerfed as inferior zeratul

She already is an inferior Zera

>Knock Valeera out of stealth
>Loses her ability for burst and cc

>Knock Zeratul out of stealth
>Blows your ass up anyway and vorpal blades you if you try to escape

>>181267267
QT fem troll or undead would be preferred but idk of any that have the lore significance of someone like anduin or moira

>>181267131
Multiclasses don't work for QM and wreck the matchmaking

i am so glad that they got rid of multiclass desu
at this point i just wished they'd redo varian to be a single class hero so that he can't randomly fuck over his entire team by meme picking a bad ult

>>181267116
>>181267270
Thanks pol, really cleared that up

>>181264928
it doesn't reduce the 500 burst heal from your D though
it only reduces the 240 heal-over-time

seems like it'd combo well with this talent at 7:
>Detonating exactly 1 Weighted Pustule (but any number of Healing Pathogens) with Bio-Kill Switch reduces the cooldown of Bio-Kill Switch to 5 seconds.
plus maybe this one at 4 as well:
>After a Healing Pathogen infests 4 targets, restore 30 Mana and reduce the cooldown of Healing Pathogen by 2 seconds.

>>181267795
>4 is anti-synergy, since you already don't need to recast your Q, so any CD reduction or mana decrease is irrelevant, use Vigorous Uptake in combination for 50% stronger D heals on a 5 sec CD

>>181267795
>>181267959
Go the increased healing on bursting at 4

You don't terribly need the mana, but you've committed to lower but more constant sustained heals; you still need the ability to go "Oh shit" and put out an actual heal later on.

>>181266521
they do fuckall damage though
they are both for peel/disengage, like emerald wind or gust

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>>181266940
you forgot the part where kerrigan unsheathes her marysue's final form and becomes essentially as powerful as a god. I hate blizz writers so god damned much

>>181268162
If it deals damage, it's a damage ult. Don't tell me you aren't using Apoc and Divine Storm for damage?

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>>181265463
>>181266385
E X T E R M I N A T E
NO MATTER THE COST

>>181267343
patrician valeera playstyle is just pretending stealth doesn't exist
walk up to heroes on your mount while visible, cloak, immediately stun

you can't get cucked out of your disables (aka your only good spells) if you don't rely on invis as a crutch to engage

>>181266595
The story still has some potential, the UED could easily just pop in and be the new antagonist and there's enough conflict to go around. I mean they already have weaponized Zerg, they just need to contact Stukov and Im sure he has 0 love for the K-Sector and will be willing to keep using infested civilians for the UED.

Brood War story is dead and gone but the potential is still there and all they need is a good writer.

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Stukov has some complicated talents and his playstyle is friendly ebola and it's great

cant wait for tuesday

>>181269547
Not really, only reason the UED was a threat the first time around was because everyone was in a disorganised mess.

>>181266470
>>181265690

I tried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXV4CuhZ57g

>>181267665
They did? What is varian now?

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>>181270339
Nice.

I came.

>>181267665
No fuck that, more multiclass.

>>181270752
How about you leak the next hero

>>181270752
make me leak anon

>>181270752
i mean if you don't have anything to make people believe your leaks it just blends in among the people making up ability sets for kel'thuzad or superman

>>181270890
Junkrat and Kel'thuzad

>>181270339
9/10
shoulda made the stars a slow fade in instead of an instant change

>>181270913
i posted pictures

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>>181270752
when

>>181270339
Good work, friend.

>>181270339
i fucking hate this meme and yet i still found it funny
nicely done

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>>181270752
Put your leaks all over my madonkadonks!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBUVUmzxKk

YOU HAVE A DEBT TO PAY MR SPARROW

>>181271223
oh i remember that
junkrat when?

>>181271223
You deleted that one the first time, I remember answering to that one.

>>181271223
Ugh i don't want Junkrat please make them stop

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>>181271223
Oh, I must've seen the deleted one. Wasn't able to enlarge.

>>181271329
Pretty neat shop skin desu

>>181270949

as >>181264130 stated, Warcraft 3 15th anniversary and HS Frozen throne expansion announcement will be next week

expect surprises

also blizzard opened the suggestion Box for HOTS again

>>181271329
DO YA FEAR DEATH

>>181271485
>suggestion Box
explain

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>>181271329

>Decades ago, a mutiny forced the Admiral of the Three Anchors to walk the plank. On moonless nights, his form haunts Blackheart's Bay, calling itself "Krakenov" and demanding a lot of fish.

Cheeky.

>>181271485
I'm suggesting Ana Amari
We need more supports and triple tank tickles me dick like you wouldn't believe
Give me the granny!

>>181271485
brb resposting this on reddit for karma

None of you shitters are watching the pro games on right now? You guys would rather talk about what skins they should release. Dumb cancer nerds

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>>181271806
Why the fuck would I watch the pro games?

>>181271806
e-sports are cancer

>>181271806
the one time i tried to bring it up earlier i got shot down
that cassia during that one round was so offensively bad though like holy shit

>>181271806
>watching esports
>smart
>not playing games yourself

>>181271806
>caring about E-scorts

>>181271806
But the TI qualifiers aren't being played right now.

>>181271806
I watch them when im comfy in bed at night, usually fall asleep halfway through.

>>181271806
why would i watch progames in heroes of the storm
this is the worst boringest moba to spectate ever, and the casters are all shit too
i play it because it is casual as fuck. that same property that makes it fun to play also makes it awful for "e-sports" though.

>>181271713

if its the war 3 screenshot its a MPQ mod dipshit

>>181271806
Only high profile HGC games, or big events like MSB or Clashes.
Don't bother outside of these.

>>181271881
>>181271887
>>181271917
>>181271925
>not watching high caliber play to adapt it into your own playstyle
I don't mean watching every match, but the last one was hype as fuck and I'm learning things. You guys just make me think you're brainlet item buying quickmatch tards
>>181272037
There's constant fighting in this game though. Dota and league of legends suffer from constant farming and can have minutes where literally nothing happens.

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>>181271806
Yes.

>>181271881
>it's a possibility that Cho'gall never gets another skin
>maybe one
Poor fellow.

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Fear. Appropriate.

>>181271806
gee I was playing for fun. I was wrong all the fucking time

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>>181271806

>>181272223
Vikings have been out longer and still haven't gotten a new skin.

>>181272206
the fighting in this game sucks compared to those games though
everything is slow and short-ranged and anti-hype

also idk about league but dota very rarely has moments like that for spectating. yeah maybe the carry is just freefarming in lane but the casters aren't watching him, they're watching his 3 teammates ganking someone on the other side of the map

Who many enemies heroes is the max you wipe by yourself?

>>181272206
Only a shitter can improve from watching pros, everyone else improves by practicing. Do not assume Pro moves help you in any way beyond a professional setting, and if it isn't those you're looking for, you could literally just google "hero tutorial youtube"

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>>181271806

I'm a quick match player but I'll have you know I would be GM if I tried. There's no need to watch "pro" games because those players are bad. I know more about the game than they do. My builds are better. I never miss a skill shot like those scrubs. And we all know hitting skill shots is the #1 thing good players do in the game. 100% accuracy on skill shots. And also being the first to the objective. When that objective pops on Cursed Hollow I'm the first one there. If I die 1v5 it's my team's fault. Those pro players don't know how to build Valla either. I go the superior Q build or AA build on every map all the time. All those pro idiots going multi build are stupid. My builds are superior.

>>181272223
I can see him getting one based on his current wow model

>>181272640
5 with prenerf malth

>>181272640
5 with Li Ming, ezpz don't even need my team for that

>>181271806

that is because is boring as The International 5, 6 and 7 levels of Snowball boring

>>181272642
Not talking about heros nerd but positioning and the way they poke/fight together in teamfights.

stukov looks fun.

>>181272640
wiped all 5 with a few lucky skillshots on alarak before the changes

was in an ARAM brawl though, so idk if that counts.

>>181272447
TERMINATED

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>>181272579
They're both pretty uncommon/niche.

>>181272694
Wasn't there some ogre gangster guy in Cardstone? I could've sworn seeing a promotional image somewhere.

>>181273060
>fight together
Impossible outside a coordinated team. If you're in a team with 4 other guys, you improve by PLAYING AS A TEAM PRACTICING AS A TEAM AGAINST OTHER TEAMS PLAYING AS TEAMS
>positioning
Stop standing in front of your tank you fucking shitter, positioning is actually very different for pro teams too, like Johanna gets away scot free with a lot of shit because she knows she can't be burned down before being saved by her team, so good enemies won't even try, meanwhile your average HL shitter will focus all and kill her AND her team won't help her out at all.
Like, a lot of the things you're learning are -0- (zero) applicable to anything you will ever play.

Don't watch them to learn, watch them because they're fun.

>>181272640
4 with butch two heroes silenced with slaighter house and full meat

>good guys throwing that last game after the initial few minutes
disgusting

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>>181273304

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>>181273304
This guy. I think it'd be ok and I'd prefer it over that WoW abomination, but there's better out there I feel.
If it had to be a HS skin, Aya skin for LiLi would be ok.

>>181272447
>the only time that one cap with aba and tyrael is relevant no one post it

>>181273343
I'm diamond and am learning things, sit down bitch boy you're wrong. It's like saying watching the NBA won't help you learn because there's isolation play and monstrous atheletes. You can still learn off the ball movement and how to defend/utilize screens better.

Obviously you need to actually do these things as well, not just watch. But watching things can help you skip a long process of figuring out shit for yourself and re-inventing the wheel

>>181272640
Uh, all of them.

>Kael'thas
>Jaina
>Malth
>Probius
>Butcher

It really depends on circumstances, though. I've 1v4d the enemy team when they trickled in 1-2 at a time on Cassia, Sonya, Valla, Alarak, etc.

>>181273506
>>181273527
Yee, that guy.

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>>181273689
it was also my doing. I'm pretty much hotsgs official abathur meme spouter at this point

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>teammate points out I'm not playing correctly
>suddenly realize I've let bad habits influence me
>he's absolutely right and I can't say anything

@181274495
dumb frogposter

>>181272576
whats the original story behind this?

>>181274698
Didnt press R on time and crashed the American housing market.

>>181274495
Good anon you're learning.

>>181274495
>playing unfocused as kharazim
>teammate tell me a "fucking noob learn to play"
>apologize
>get better and save him and a couple of teammates a couple of times
>win the game
>teammate apologize for being rude

>played 10 games today
>lost 10 games today
isn't forced 50 supposed to kick in soon?

>Play support
>Use a heal on an ally
>Malthael runs in and dies, blames me for not healing him.
>Ask if he's ever heard of a Cooldown.
>He just lanes the rest of the game not helping with any fights or objectives blaming me.
Why even bother?

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>wait a second, my SC1 box still has a sticker on it
>1998
>flyer for upcoming Starcraft Ghost
Didnt expect them to keep the key for so long.

ALSO THEY MISSPELLED THE TITLE

>>181275281
the keys never expire

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>play leoric, the character who it's not awful to die on
>always wind up with least deaths on the team

sick

>>181265820
anthony burch is an enormous unironic cuckold and an all round pathetic human being

>>181275087
forced 50 only causes losses anon
wins never come from matchmakng fuckups, they are always pure skill and proof you belong in GM

>>181275373

the tankiest hero in a zero support comp with a good escape has the least deaths?
whoa breh
fucking quick match shitter fuck off
your team 100% sucked but so do you

>>181266595
im convinced Bill Roper and whoever else worked alongside him were responsible for how good Blizzard games were. Notice how every single game since after he left in 2003 has had a garbage storyline.

I got 7k and want to buy hero. Hammer is my first option. Any opinion?

>>181275373
at least he's not tyrael, the hero whose trait is only ever useful if he dies but who should never fucking die ever because he is a tank with 500 escapes

>>181275373
People pretend Leoric is a tank when his only peel is a slow and entomb.
They dive and overcommit around him because of that.

>>181275695
buy stukov

>>181275832
Stukov will be 10 or 15k

>>181275441
Oh, okay. I'll be angry now.

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>>181276048
>10 or 15k

>>181270339
There was an effort.

>>181275041
>play like shit as kharazim, miss every palm
>apologize profusely
>team says it's ok, just focus
>start hitting every palm and winning every teamfight
>apologize again for the rough start
>"it's fine, you really came through in the end"
It's so silly to get giddy over random strangers acknowledging me, but boy does it feel good.

>>181264789
Not true.
I see exp pop up any time a minion dies anywhere near my locusts.

>>181276981
Factually false, wrong and definitely incorrect.

Hat soaks exp
Body soaks exp
Locusts only get exp on lasthit

This is PROVEN. Test it in TRY mode, read it up, whatever. But don't lie you filthy fucking commie

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>>181276943
>playing khara

>>181276981
Well you are wrong. If you see exp pop ups then either your ally, your hat or your own body is close enough to get the exp or your locust got the last hit

>>181277195
Can't put me down my friend, I know you're silently supporting me, hoping that your critic drives me to play even better :)

>>181265463
Any Aba that doesn't get a mine talent or two specifically to fuck your day up and keep you from getting near him is a bad.

I used to have a webm of a Zeratul getting exploded trying to go for a steam vent I'd left my Locust Nest in. I was camped out in it before the keep in that lane was dead, and so I had covered the approach to it in 10 mines. He triggered 4 riding up to the vent, then blinked INTO the vent assuming I'd be in there. He landed on top of 3 more mines and tried to run, triggering even more mines.

He died to DoT damage and didn't even kill my nest while I sat in the opposite lane pushing down its keep and spamming mines all over the approach to my new location.

>>181267241
Dragon shrine is the worse

>>181265463
i chase abathur with tyrande owl + distance talent.

>for once the brawl is actually kind of fun

>>181277483
*moves 6 inches*
You. Outplayed. Inferior creature.

>>181265204
"annoying fucking mobility creep nightmare hero who shouldn't be in the game at all"

>>181277758
Dude just use CC :)

>>181275601
can you tell me why I sucked so that I can improve?

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>>181277295
Actually i hope you get hit by a car and die of eternal bleeding

>>181277649
>see an enemy hook that is going to miss
>pull an ally into it for instant kill
or
>get pulled over
>pull an ally over with you

>>181277195
Kharazim its pretty good. With Insight quest and Fist of Fury you get almost infinite mana and reduce the cooldowns of skills.

>>181278031
>"just use that thing that literally counters every hero in the game"

hence why Anub is god-tier
also mashing your face on Q and E being a viable strat on anything that's not a healbitch like Li-Li is fucking terrible hero design

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Now I'm convinced the game is just fucking with me, 15 boxes and my only summer item is the KT spray

It's extra shit cause I already have infested Tychus

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Is this normal?

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>>181278198
why not purchase some boxes goy?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlusgU-MUZ4
HOOOO BOY

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oh snap they picked zul'jin

>>181279316
hes secret anub counter

>promotion match
>ask guy to go kael to top off our team comp
>last second he switches to varian
>goes twin blades
WHY

how do i not suck shit as king of bones
i don't feel tanky enough to box anyone and i can't engage without also burning my chase/escape button

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>>181279418
>online game
>try to dictate what someone plays
>they don't listen and pick something else

People like you are the problem with moba's whether or not KT would've been a solid pick you really shouldn't tell people what to play just because "you know better"

>>181278198
>tfw already got the epic tychus skin and one of the legendary surf boards
I'm done with the summer boxes after opening like 5

>>181279354
>secret

>>181280009
you are a bruiser, not a tank
your job is not to engage

>>181280009
Don't miss your W.

>>181280009
don't be treasonous and attempt to lead your king to ruin

what a throw

>>181280118
>FUCK team communication everyone just pick what they want

what is wrong with you, it's a fucking team game and you actually need to work together. Saying "I think we need a tank for peel or a hypercarry" isn't a reason for someone to just throw and pick Nova because waaah don't tell me what to do :(

>>181262532
That character is shit... so you can cc him when he does massive shove. What a wasted character.

>>181280118
Twin blades Varian is objectively wrong. Always.

Also giving people like you who consider genuine advice "toxic" are the real cancer. Don't play ranked if you can't handle other people giving opinions.

>Opened already like 15 summerboxes, of which 2 rares and 1 epic
>Not a single summer skin, not even a spray

WHY

>>181280997
>he has counters
fucking DROPPED

>>181280997
if you think being crowd controlled while using a skill makes a character bad then buddy i have some bad news about the entire roster (tip: they all can be crowd controlled)
maybe if you weren't retarded you'd know his shove had a very short cooldown. that'd be nice.

>>181281094
Dude just reroll xd

>>181280118
are you cygnus, the silver /vg/ shitter that went twin blades and subsequently full tumblr because he couldnt handle the banter?

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>>181280997
>As a mother fucking BASELINE you can heal your whole team for 500 burst, keep in mind at level 0 Uther is only healing 1 person for 300
>Becomes easily spammable once you talent for it
>70% slow
>A "get the fuck off me" ult that can push their tank (you know, the person who will probably try and cc) far as fuck away from you
>actually TWO get the fuck off me ults
>shit

Stukov is going to be insane on numbers alone

>>181280009
learn to toggle the fucking armlet, noob

>>181281094
i got the tracer summer skin but i don't particularly like the sound effects, i might just go back to the brown-tint default skin i was using before

>Stukov

What the fuck, I thought this was just a meme.

>>181281403
It's real comrade

>>181281149
>if you think being crowd controlled while using a skill makes a character bad then buddy i have some bad news about the entire roster (tip: they all can be crowd controlled)
Technically not Gal since he's immune to stuns and silences.

>>181281284
my custom skeleton-themed keyboard only has one button on it, so i dont buy armlet

>>181281472
we finally found the only good character in HOTS

>>181281497
just double click it bro like just hover your mouse over it man hahaha

>>181281681
hey i have SOME pride
im not gonna play like some shitty memelord 5k omniknight spammer

>>181281403
memes are become real, it's currentyear

>>181281273

A few weeks back someone was asking for a hero with some of Dazzle's kit to make into HoTS, and Stukov's slow, and even his heal bouncing like that has some similarities.

Whilst I think the arm abilities are little bit more cartoonish than they should be, in terms of raw ability Stukov feels like he might actually be the first support I could enjoy playing with.

First impressions is that Flailing Swipe is not quite as good version of Falstads gust + talent whilst Massive Shove is potentially hilarious, but might leave you open if you get an unlucky angle and have to wait 5 minutes whilst you shove a lost Sylvanus back down a lane leaving you open to get murdered by a roaming Illidan.

>>181281472
Cocoon

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Isn't Stukov's zerg arm got somehow more pumped in hots? Just look at his SC2 version and compare to this new hots one

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>>181282045
>Flailing Swipe ends up having a 15 second cooldown

>>181280118
He was okay with it, I asked for any mage actually or any burst damage. We had NO STUNS and they were all kiting heroes. He literally chased lunara half way across the map in a teamfight it was hilarious how fucking stupid of a decision it was. It's objectively the wrong pick and game losing, fuck off with "just play what you want" in ranked mode. I'm sure he had a lot of fun doing nothing the whole game.

>>181281403
Why would he be a meme? He's been in more games than characters like Alarak.

>>181282259
If you have that pic and you saw the spotlight, do you really have to ask?

Opinion: Just give Thrall more HP and healing and call him a warrior.

>>181282259
He's been lifting.

>>181282259
A lot of the zerg got beefed up for hots for some reason.
I know it is a joke that Dehaka evolved between games but he was kind of an imposing but slight in Heart now he is a short jacked thing with scissor hands.

>>181282259
Dehaka rules, they souped them up for HotS so he'd be more cool.

>>181281094
i'm 5/11 (counting re-rolls as boxes)
if you are getting four commons the 250 re-roll is a damn good deal on those. it's like buying a legendary for less than 10k over time.

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>that one guy who takes all of the +damage talents for Stukov and plays him as a melee assassin, never healing anyone

>that one stukov who tries to get epic penis push ultis off all game long ignoring everything else for his youtube video

>>181281284
i can't handle two whole buttons, i need all my attention for the one

>>181283014

Somebody is going to manage to get a teamwipe with the Popping Pustules talent put on Fails of Week or whatever it's called and EVERY shitter is going to spend the next month trying to do the same thing.

>>181273527
>Aya Li Li

Want

>>181283014
>not going dps Stukov along with a Khara or Auriel
It's like you hate winning.

Can you imagine Stukov using his pustoles and rape tentacle ult to knock the enemy Illidan or Valla into a wall so Auriel could stun them into it as well, all the while Stukov is doing periodic healing while Auriel is doing burst healing?

They both even require allies to group up while punishing enemy teams for doing the same. It's the dream team.

>>181283014
>he doesnt know that dps supports are just as good if not better than assassins in damage

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>still no buffs for best girl

>>181283760
Pushing someone into a wall with Stukov's single target is bad value. It's like the opposite of Auriel. You should be aiming for the largest open area to push someone into.

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

Guys, guys hear me out!
What if they made Alexi's Strong arm do damage based on distanced pushed.
>Push all the way across the map, 1 garrillion damge.

So what's the best health to go in a fight with while playing zuljin?

>>181283937

What I want to know is what counts as "collision"? Do other heroes? Creeps dont, destroyed buildings dont, but do intact buildings? The potential to just remove a Morales, Auriel or Gul'Dan makes it worth considering.

>>181284001
Anon pls, we went through this already! He's a support, not an assassin and his ults are utility not damage!.

Flappy slap will probably be a super short cooldown like taunt or napalm strike and I'd be surprised if the push had more than 60sc cooldown.

>>181284273
100% lol

>>181284281
have you never whipped people with auriel? everything that you cant pass through is collision. even destroyed buildings, by which i mean forts and keeps, not towers.

>>181284281
I'm guessing any unpathable terrain.

So I wasnt here when the spotlight dropped
Are you guys disappointed in Stukov? Really, all I expected was for him to get a big summon ult, likely Apocolisk. You may ask yourself "why would he get that Kerrigan has an Ultralisk kys"
To that I say, that ult is shit and she needs a new one. I do like his extendo arm though, and am waiting to see if his flailing arm becomes Emerald Winds 2.0

>>181283937
No.
Value will vary by context.
Sometimes it WILL be best value to do a short-distance pin into a wall so your Diablo or Auriel can combo them. Sometimes you'll want to just go for max distance. Sometimes there will be some other variable.

In the example given, consider also picking the enemy Uther or Muradin and chain-CCing them into the wall as your team kills them, like that pro player using Diablo to delete a pro Muradin with Charge, Overpower, Charge and a few autos to do 50% of his hp in damage while he was stunlocked.

>>181284438
I feel like you would just be focused and bursted before you had a chance to abuse the effects of faster firerate and all

>>181284532
Disappointed in that he doesn't have any summons, pleasantly surprised in what he does get.

>>181284532
Not exactly what I expected from Stukov but I cant wait to get him and his pirate skin, he looks fun.

>vs li ming with no tank and healer and no assassin that can dive her in qm
>lose on the spot cause losing half your health to pokes

god damn you qm

>>181284532
I wanted summons.
I still think one of his ults should've be been an Infest ability to turn a tower into an infested barracks like structure temporarily. Reinforce a lane's minion spawns for a while with some infested units while you go do something else.

>>181284610
You aren't a tank, you have to skirt in your max range to get damage. The added attack speed is a bonus, you don't go into a fight at fucking 10% because you attack fast. You play like a normal ranged assassin that gets better the longer it takes for them to kill you, not like a loose cannon of axes that's ready to explode for one second then die.

>>181284532
>Not getting his signiture battle ship or Tankbug
Meh
>Is literally an infecting Terran
Better characterization that Xul/10

>>181284605
If you're just looking to put someone into a nearby wall then the fury swipes would be a better choice.

wasn't stukov a complete asspull in sc2? why is he even a character worth a reincarnation in hots?

>>181284532
Peopel who want summons are literally autistic. No one with a brain thought he'd be a specialist after the teaser on Wednesday.

I feel like they did a good job of making it feel like you are playing Stukov and not some RTS overhead commander hero that controls a fuckton of bugs which is absolutely fine. When I play a hero I want to play that guy, not the idea of playing that guy as presented through the game they were originally from because of the limitation of the source material.

I think they did a fine job, I like the fantasy they went for and his kit is cool.

Anyone have that megabundle for HotS fanart?

>>181284802

>Better characterization that Xul/10

That's not exactly difficult.

>>181285104
>you are playing Stukov and not some RTS overhead commander hero that controls a fuckton of bugs
Hmmm...
Hand in the Sky hero when?

>>181284532
I'd rather have flail on maps like Braxis / Hollow / Garden desu

>>181284914
Sometimes.
Sometimes you'll want to isolate the target, not push ALL of them over there to potentially block the combo or otherwise help their ally with short-range abilities.

If you can slow half a team with pustules and then pick out their healer from a screen away and slam them into a wall for your allies to catch them while their allies are slowed, you're gonna be taking that squishy down more safely and more precisely while requiring more skill on your part and riskier positioning.

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>8:31 PM EST, June 30th, 2017
>Kel'thuzad is still not in the game

>>181284927
>Show his appearance in the original game in his spotlight.
Anon I...

>>181284927
I cannot find any logical reason for Duran getting Stukov's corpse out of space and ressurecting it somehow back. He wasn't even a psionic, he just died and got launched into space.
Althought I liked his character in BW, so I can live with that, he's cool (unlike Mary Sue Kerrigan)

>>181285104
You're a retard.
YOU CAN DO BOTH.
You can have summons AND play the hero!
He could've had maybe ONE summon ability. Maybe even a level 20 talent that infests the core and causes an infested minion wave to spawn.

Imagine that. Same identical hero, but at 20 he has one extra talent that does this.

How is that terrible?

>>181271329
JACKELSPARRO?

>>181285318
I understand the desire for Kel'thuzad, but why on earth people want Maiev, I'll never know.

Her kit was the biggest mishmash of bullshit and had absolutely no synergy between abilities. They just took a whole bunch of existing skills and slapped them on her with a new skin.

>>181285402
Summons are shit, get over yourself and go play Zagara

Whats the point of unranked? Just QM or Rank is bro

>>181285326
I know who he is, a minor character in sc they asspulled back from irrelevance back into the the HotS campaign. It's like bringing back the butcher from d1 into d3 and saying it's the same monster.