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Lei Shen soon edition?

What's new?

>Sun's Out, Guns Out Summer Event and Sweepstakes; Now LIVE
>New summer themed skins, mounts, and sprays
>Event ends the week of July 24th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838724/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852963/
https://youtu.be/mAolE6W_l9I [Embed]
https://youtu.be/2RNtPcvCf8Q [Embed]

>Next Hero teased on Twitter
>All signs actually point to Alexi Stukov this time
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/880093452918153219

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed]
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20877885/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852960/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20861968/

>Where can I talk to like minded individuals to discuss shitposting?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

Previous thread: >>181101667
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No summer beachbutt Johanna, am saaaaaad. Johanna is bestbutt.
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stitches pull brawl is best brawl

couldn't stop laughing for about 5 minutes straight
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>>181203661
The skin we neeeeeeeeeeed (minus the awful face the artist gave her).
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I am genuinely jealous of how relaxed Stitches looks on the splash page.
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Always fun when your illidan goes 0-9 in 12 minutes. Thanks. Really fun game.
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>>181203390
>mop was the best nuwow xpac
>no one gave it chance because of kung fu panda memes
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>>181203390
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Don't ever post a thread again
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>>181203661
>>181203958
I'm kinda disappointed with the summer skins, desu. We basically got 3 skins, Tychus, Tracer, Stitches, that's it. And instead of giving Stitches like 10 variations, they should've gave us more strawhats, swimsuits and feet.
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>>181205164
>no skin for best girl
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>>181205275
>no skin for actual best girl
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You know what that summer tits image needs? Some fuckbug.
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>>181205164
Maybe i'm a bit spoiled coming from other games but hots seems to have the slowest skin releases and the worst general quality when compared to other games, but it's free so I shouldn't complain I guess.
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>>181205464
>>181205432
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT!
Dear god I have no idea why but Blizzard is getting me into Zagara.
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>>181205432

Fucking 4chan showing the wrong image, don't worry I got ya
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Why does someone always feel obligated to shit up the OP every single week?

Just leave it be, fuck off. Someone else handles it better so don't mess with a good thing.
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>>181205164
I still want beach bartender Leoric. Just a skeleton in a hawaiin shirt with flower lays, swim trucks and sandals, maybe a big straw hat and sunglasses.

Swing a giant tiki totem
Wraith walk reclines in a beach chair
Drain makes a coconut drink with a straw
Swing makes flame juggling style flames
Entomb makes a giant tiki bar
Don't pick black kings march because it sucks

YOUR LACK OF SUNSCREEN IS NOTED
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>Watch Illidan walk away from a fight, with barely any health, when the enemy has no chase outside Malth, and he wasn't marked so he was safe
>Illidan decides nah fuck it I'll dive back it
>Dies before getting in even a 2nd auto
>proceeds to do this 8 more times

Leoric that same match was trying to 1v5 with march of the black king
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>>181206071
I could write an essay on why Illidan is inferior in almost every regard to thrall.

Both are under powered in my opion, but Thrall has far more options if you MUST blind pick a melee assassin.
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>>181205509
I think it has something to do with development of the skins. If you look at a good number of the skins their skeletons are different from the original model. It seems like they make a whole new model every time not just start from a base which would take less time.
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What we really need is a skin for Beach Uther.
Fuck briefs Tychus, I want casual, cute daddy Uther.
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So, are people still calling Zag the worst specialist?

Also, huh?
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>>181206435
Lumberjack not gay enough?

I'll admit, I love his look in his metal detector spray.
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>>181205078
u mad ?
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>>181206450
Yeah she's terrible except for her vision the creep provides. Her global is kinda useful on warhead though.
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>>181206450
>people call zag terrible
>proceed to pick azmo and sylvanas
???
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>>181206450
Zagara's (aa) damage is very low and she has long-ish cooldowns. In order to actually influence a fight she needs to be in it for long enough to get multiple rotations of her cooldowns off, without anyone diving her.

There's some neat stuff that she can do, but she's really not in all that good of a place right now. When she was at peak oppressiveness she had a ton more AA damage, which fed into infest a lot faster and she could demolish your shit *very* quickly.
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>>181206515
Eh, stupid as it sounds, like Brief Tychus it's a bit much for me.

I like my beefy men to be subtle. good facial hair helps. Just not roid ragers.
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>>181206450
I've never seen anyone call her the worst specialist.
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>>181206739
azmodan is top tier though

his globla pressure is insane at 20
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>>181206902
She's better than gazlowe in a vacuum, but at least he can actually do things with team coordination with his stun
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>>181206956

He is at trash or D tier in every single tier list by competent players out there anon. Unless, of course, you are living the BRONZE-SILVER life.
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>>181206450
Xul is the only bad specialist.
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>>181205164
>Tyrande with slight seethrough sundress never
>Valeera with bright red two piece never
>Li Ming with a straw hat throwing coconuts never
>Life Guardian Johanna never
>Illidan with sunglasses and two pool noodles as weapons never
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>>181207139
Specialists aren't usually picked at all by pro teams since they know how to rotate efficiently. Not sure what your point is dude.
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>>181207142
This
Anyone who says Xul is a good pick should be shot. He can wave clear all he wants he will still barely push any lanes and offer very little to the game. It doesn't help he is a slow and squishy while having two horrible ults that do nothing. The only saving grace might be his root, but there are way better heroes for that. Hopefully they will rework him one day.
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Stukov hype?
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>walk into 3 people as twin blades varian
>die
>blame your healers

thanks for the laff varian
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>>181207503
I was hoping we'd get a xul rework to coincide with the necromancer being released for d3. Guess not.
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>>181207139
Original poster
>tier lists
you're worse than him, get out scrublord
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Do you think the angel of HOPE likes the lewds?
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>>181207503
Xul's kit is kind of a weird cluster fuck.

>Has to be in the thick of the fight to slow AAs
>Dies if looked at even with shield

He does... everything... but not well
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>>181208086

Woah mama, source.
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>>181208306
He has to get super close to anything. Dies to a sneeze and his only talent that is worth while fucks you over by having a longer cd. It doesn't help you are forced to picks between shitty split pushing or horrible damage. I rather play Zag just running teleporting while pushing and still be able to put out a decent amount of damage.
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>>181206041
>Drain puts a coconut on the target, and Leoric is just following them with a REALLY LONG STRAW to drink from it
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>>181208562
>artist name on image
>asks for source
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Am I the only one that feels the draft UI is shit and needs a redesign?

GIANT display of heros face, some skins make their faces totally different.

tiny display of bans that are also grayed-out.

HOLD ON WE NEED HUGE SPACE TO SHOW CHARACTER MODEL PICKS

Have to bring up character sheet.

tiny as fuck ban/pick order indicator.
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DUDE
GENJI
LMAO
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>>181208753
Eactly this. A big, brightly stripped straw.

I DRINK, YOUR, MILK-SHAKE
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>>181208828
The picks should show hero name. I once lost a game because I thought a tassadar skin was greymane and picked something retarded
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>>181208828
the entire game feels empty
the main screen is this terrible purple/black that makes the game feels dead
I blame the SC2 vibe/engine
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>>181206653
>>181206758
I can buy that. Dive fucks her so hard. It is fun how easy she gets a gate in QM though. I wonder why we don't have people begging for buffs every thread. Every other underpowered hero has its whiners.

Fucking Greymane wrecked me a lot.

I just won a Warhead game with her where our team had 35 kills to their 50.
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>>181209000
>confusing anub'arak tassadar for greymane

your account level 134 is showing
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>>181205164
and the tychus skin is basically his prisoner skin minus pants + the stitches skin was already in the game
this event is garbage
it feels to me that since 2.0 blizz has diverted most of their hots team to other proyects, only way I can explain the huge decline in quality
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>>181209179
The sprays are by far the best thing about the event.

And we don't really get to see them ever.
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Moving soon and any extra money will be of great help. Any idea of where to go etc? Suggestions and information is appreciated
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>>181209179
Maybe they are thinking more for the future to release summer skins so at some point we will get them. Blizzard just likes to thinly slice content. They do the same shit for OW too.
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>>181209179
Tychus seems pretty detailed not so much can be said for Tracer who doesn't even look like she is going swimming. They should have gave it to Johanna or someone else.
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>>181209591
Wrong thread?

All I can really tell you is a good tip a friend told me once. NEVER MOVE TO A POPULAR CITY! It will be expensive as fuck. Look rural or maybe small town/city?
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>>181209848
I rather like the Tracer skin. It has a lot of effects for an epic, with the AAs being water, the splish and splash on her teleport and the water balloon pulse.
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/ourgirl/ faye is streaming guys
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>>181210384
The part that really annoys me is that she's wearing her weird ass regular shoes. Could've easily been barefoot or have sandals.
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>>181210652
With that skin it only continues to highlight how she has fucking clownshoes because her body proportions are so weird.
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TYCHUS HAS A BIGGER COCK THAN YOU!
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>>181208771

Wow it's.....kinda shit

>>181208828
Dota's is perfect
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>Towers of Doom
>We've been on 6 core health for the past like 4 altar phases
>they're at 36
>we're making the comeback of the fucking century
>I get ganked on bw, lunara and rehgar jumped on me from some bushes, it's my fault but everyone wound up splitting for camps so I couldn't really avoid it
>at least the malthael that's getting the top camp will be safe since they were distracted by me and he can hearthstone out
>malthael instead engages them, and a 3rd person has joined them
>he dies but not after he delays his death like fuck
>they cap the last altar right as I'm phase shifting back to it

I feel so fucking cheated. We were wiping them in every 5v5 at that point
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>Play QM
>Win
>Play Ranked
>Lose

RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEE
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>>181211920
Draft better
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>>181212085

Draft means fuckall when you're a bronzeshitter.

But I don't fucking get it, in QM the enemy lets me do whatever the fuck I want to them, but touch ranked and even in bronze hell the enemy team are ultra brain wojak's all linked in unison with all 5 of them talking in sync operating one giant keyboard.

Fuck.
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>>181211920
>>181212223
In QM it's about personal stats, staying alive, and partaking in really stupid fights.
In ranked, you have people who are trying to do objectives properly and play the map, with only a small percentage (small but significant) who play it like it's QM.
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>>181212223
It doesn't get better. I've had Platinum league people draft like retards.
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https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/880440735312379904

Stukov officially confirmed.
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>teammate spam pinging us to push a keep while a full health immortal is shitting on our own keep

it amazes me how bad some people's game sense is
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>>181213024
you're like 15 hours late kiddo
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>>181212223
>>181212926
this is why I do nothing but pick samuro and jungle like a mother fucker all game. Constant map pressure wins you a lot of games, especially when Samuro can typically gank whatever dumb zagara or azmo they have splitpushing
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>>181212926

So specialists are good for dragging myself out of this shitheap right? Who do you recommend? Slyvanas?
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>>181213130
Murky
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what a derpy looking face on that tracer

further proof that spectre/ghost tracers are best tracers
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>>181213408

>Le spunky dyke gets a skin and not anyone actually sexually appealing
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>>181213082
yeah but it wasn't in the OP because OP was retarded and nobody has mentioned it since
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WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I PLAY AND WIN A GAME WITH TRACER?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?! THIS GAME IS FUCKING SHIT WITH HOW RETARDED MY TEAM IS 100% OF THE TIME.
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>>181213531
>play useless glass cannon
>blame team
lol
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>>181213634
BUT IT'S TRUE. EVERY TIME SOMEONE IS OUT OF POSITION AND RUINING THE GAME.

USELESS? OK, LETS TALK ABOUT HOW SHIT MOBAS ARE AND HOW UNBALANCED THIS FAGGY FUCKING NIGGER GAME IS.
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>>181213531
>picks tracer
>can't waveclear
>can't 1v1 90% of heroes
>charges in expecting to blink around and 1v5 everybody
>doesn't realize that tracer has to be babysat by a healer and tass/zarya entire game in order to not die

literally the worst hero unless your team is pro level babysitters
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>>181213794
SEE
>>181213724
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>>181213794

And she was the only female chosen to get a beach skin.
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>>181213531
>play assassin
>don't make picks
>lose
>muh team

You're shit, love.
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>>181213724
Why don't you go back to Overwatch? At least there you can carry with Tracer.
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>>181213408
>OI GUV'NAH! WHERE DA CARPET AT?
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>>181214094
YOU'RE A STUPID NIGGER, LOVE.
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i want ow shitters to leave
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>>181214130
>play hots
>kite people
>burst them down
>play overwatch
>fifty billion shields
>die to some mouth breather waving his cursor back and forth
Am I just bad at FPS?
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>>181214571
yes
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>>181214730
I was really good at halo 5+ KD, and my accuracy is decent. I just don't understand how you're supposed to carry in OW.
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>>181215721
It's called getting old, anon.
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>>181214086
Still have to appeal to the OW crowd.
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>>181213724
I THINK THE GAME IS PRETTY OK, ALSO DON'T WORRY MY CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN TOO SO LET'S ALL SHOUT UUUHHHH!
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>>181213123

And what rank are you with that now?
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>>181213794
>can't 1v1 90% of heroes
That's a funny way of saving can 1v1 90% of heroes
>charges in expecting to blink around and 1v5 everybody
Blame the player not the character
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Expect all of the following by Feb. 2019:

>Kel'Thuzad
>Junkrat
>Ana
>Velen
>Maiev
>Winston
>Kyle Vlaros
>Mengsk

about 1-2 a month. some only once a mo
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Anyone else feel Zul's guillotine needs another damage buff? His other option gives both huge survivability and potentially still ridiculous dps. No need to land hard delayed skillshots, just press d, q, and AA.
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>>181217694
>No Superman
It's like you want us to know you're lying
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>>181217707
His ult wasn't even buffed before, it was just rescaled.
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>>181217938
It was buffed, at all points before you go into negative HP you deal more damage now, but less and less so as you approach 0
(Blue line is new guillotine, red is old)
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Do you think they have the balls to give another character the shitty useless mutalisk ultimate? What's he going to do when he can't infest buildings and Sylvanus proved infesting enemies is the most useless ability in the game?
I think he's going to have his little community center follow after him and he's going to be like a specialist version of Rexxar. On his own he's basically Raynor with the acid spit instead of a shotgun blast. But his other spells can be cast from the community center while he stays safely at a distance. If you command it to stay in place it spawns dudes to push the lane and spawns creep that spreads for up to 3k vision.
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>>181217938
Though it was technically just a rescale, it does effectively make you do much more damage at higher health, while still doing similar damage prepatch with extremely low health.
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>>181218153
>can't infest buildings
what makes you so sure? Blizzard has proven before that they don't mind trying to do unique things once in a while. If they pussy out I'd be pretty pissed but there's a pretty good chance he might have some building shenanigans going on
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>>181218153
He's gonna be a summoner to offer another playstyle alternative to azmo.
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>hate other mobas because all of the laning phases needed to grind exp and gold before the actual game begins
>get into hots
>favourite hero type is specialist
>end up enjoying autistic split pushing instead of teamfighting
I wish I knew why
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>>181218540
no, please support us alexi!
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>>181218643

>Fucking bulge on my screen every time now for who knows how long

Kinda pisses me off actually
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>>181218540
I'm expecting some sort of support/specialist hybrid.
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>>181218773
only on first loading screen, right? the main menu scren is a cropped version specifically to avoid that
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>>181218976

After every game as well m8
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Whats really weird though is that they let the monster stitches wear a bikini top. This signifies that trannies are really monsters, sliced and diced by surgical steel and reassembled in a grotesque mishmash of abused flesh.
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>>181219135
>an event sponsored by Sam Raimi
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>>181219316
elaborate
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shittiest brawl ive played besides all nova that is
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>>181219487
you never watched his spiderman movies ?
He makes it pretty clear in those that transsexuals are mentally ill monsters that should be gassed, and I'm only paraphrasing Uncle Ben here.
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>>181219675
>watching superhero movies

Oh gosh why is this retard in the same thread as me -.-
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>>181219752
>not watching all the movies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHsSsaNQ_50
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>>181219809
>>181219675
?
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/84409200/
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>>181219837
SAY HALLO
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>>181219598
All Nova is kind of fun actually and good practice for spotting shimmers. At least it's usually over in 5 minutes.
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this is your ranged assassin for the next game
say something nice about her
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>>181218540
nope
>>181218643
yep
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>>181220330
>Get nova brawl
>Get whispers about hacking

They should really give some sort of warning to all stealth heroes that you are not 100% invisible.
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I just played a 36 min HM, destroyed both keeps and lost and only got 150k exp. Have they nerfed exp gain in 2.0?
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>>181220847
AHAHAHAHH XDDD KEK
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>>181219912
>it's another dumb /tv/ meme

I'd rather fucking not.
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>>181220698
only when you lose :^)
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>>181220847
are you going to try and rickroll me next?
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>>181221093
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>Decide to try Stitches out
>QM into Cursed Hollow
>I'm the only one going to contest shrines
>get roflstomped by enemy team each time
>friendly team is just playing grabass in the middle lane most of the match
>enemy team is grabbing camps and pushing forts hard
>had a Kael'thas with 14 deaths at the end of the match
I made the realization after the match as to why I play specialists so damn much- you can just fuck off and do basically PvE shit all match and handily win the game. Hooking an Azmodan into a group of three other people and watching him just waddle away while my team rotates away is frustrating as shit.
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So, the #1 thing to buy with 1000 jewels is the 30 day stimpack, right?
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>>181221145
Is that Stukov's penis?
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Is Gilnean Cocktail build significantly better than any other for Greymane?
Sure, killing people who went behind their gates by shooting a cocktail at them is pretty fun, but other than that is feels like I can get kills more reliably while in Worgen form, when I can always target specifically who I want to targer.
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>>181221453
its to buy the newest hero in hope that he is broken as fuck.
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>>181221484
Thats his male vulva
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>>181221365
Specialists are just more interesting to play as.

>TLV can split push all three lanes and soak XP, and have a decent escape mechanism, and a powerful ult that negates two of the vikings dying. It's three mini Murkies.

>Zagara (aka best Bugfu) shits ALL OVER a lane and spams roachlings at shit. Medusa blades to fuck up minion waves, and sending Hydralisks to get enemy heroes to fuck off. Combined with the speed buff the creep gives, Zagara can run away to behind a gate pretty safely.

>Azmodan either drinks black kool-aid and dunks entire minion waves and hero health bars to half, or laser builds to melt heroes too distracted to notice they're melting.

> Medivh can be an untouchable scout birb.

As for special other heroes, Cho'Gall is a Co-Op hero that offers great meme plays if you're in voice chat with another person.

Otherwise you're a Bruiser/Ranged assassin beating up enemy heroes, Mages that pray not to get smacked by roamers, roamers bursting down, and everybody else just doing their thing.
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>>181221773
Why would you want this? All this does it make them op for a bit until they nerf them to an unusable point. I rather them be somewhat decent and just get a few buffs to compensate so they are always relevant.
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>>181221453
Depending on how many hours a day you play, but considering you are here in this general then yes, I'd say it is.
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>>181221771
More or less. Worgen form is more of a gap closer/finisher to chase down fleeing heroes. Otherwise Cocktails and Cursed bullets are usually the safest path.
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>stukov trait is to infest a fort/keep which constantly spawns infested terrans
disappointing to be honest family members
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>>181222451
Where did you get that info?
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>>181222451
This is wrong.
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>>181222451
Would actually be pretty neat. Would allow him to soak 2 lanes or to apply more pressure to 1. Too bad it wont be that.
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>>181222476
carbot's idbecoolif series
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>>181222679
So just another big aba nest?
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>>181222987
Yup. Expect you wouldn't have to wait till 20 to do it.
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>>181223059
Ah yes I do love heroes having lvl 20 talents on their basic abilities.
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>Superman
>Q: Freeze Breath
>W: Laser Vision
>E: Speed Dash
>D: Man of Steel
>R1: Superman Punch
>R2: Super Smash

>Skins:
>base skin 90s supes (steel, bizarro, icon, sentry variants)
>eradicator (varios alts, not sure if references)
>"classic" skin, 2 variants: base and 30s palette
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>>181223270
You must be livid azmodan can soak multiple lanes with his trait.
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>stukov's "227" ultimate prevents your team from being able to hearth or move towards the core but grants 50% shield and ability damage inc

Dust Balder does it again, another masterpiece.
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>>181207503
Xul has his niches. While not great in a fight on his own, he does provide some lockdown with bone prison and a lot of slow with skeletal mages, he can be a bit hard to take down cause of his shield (which can also do 15% max hp in damage). He reduces attack speeds too.

If you're playing with an aggressive ganker like genji or greymane, xul becomes a *lot* better. On his own he's somewhat meh aside from his ability to doublesoak and shove.

Minor tweaks to his cooldowns would make him a *lot* better, as well as combining some of his skeleton talents.
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>>181208086
Al'maiesh - The cord of hope when wrapped around someone makes them feel warm, calm and comforted, it helps clear their mind and resolve their woes.

When used against enemies it burns and sears them and can bind them in fiery chains.

It is basically a million loving hugs or a million really rapey hugs. On top of that Auriel has the most perfect voice in all the heavens and leads the choir of angels in singing to the crystal arch when its time to pop out new angels quickly. Auriel is also the most beloved angel in all the heavens.

Auriel is basically top tier angel waifu material, being the pop idol of the heavens. She also is probably into (loving) bdsm because of the rapescarf.
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>>181223602
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>>181220493
Charged strikes is still ridiculous.
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I really want Onyxia

She could be a weird multi-class hero

At ten, she could pick

dragon form, a beefy high damage bruiser
or
katarina prestor form, a specialist who can't be targeted by enemy buildings that goes around convincing the buildings to attack their own side for a short time
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>>181223457
>Thinking Xul counters Genji

His root doesn't even stop him from dashing and his niche role could be filled by better picks.
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>>181223994
>Playing WITH

With and Against are antonyms anon.
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>>181224074
I am not paying you for this.
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>>181223890
Pretty sure butts don't work like that.
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>>181223457
or just making his trait pop a skeleton mage every 4 skeleton raised, and giving him lower CD on shield and more HP to be in line with other bruisers.

lots of heroes are in an odd spot now because they were released during the design philosophy shift, compare Samuro to Valeera for example
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>Kyle Vlaros (Blackthorne)

>Q: Buck Shot
>W: Scatter Shot
>E: Roll (can end with a Q or W)
>D: Take Cover (gains significant armor when against a wall/destructible, reduced cooldowns) works similar to the xcom cover mechanic
>R: Crouch: Gain significant ability/basic attack range & crit chance. CD lowers with each kill.

doesnt have 2 r's
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>>181224194
I have watched copious amounts of hentai and can confirm that butts do work exactly like that.
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>>181224328
Would be sick if use trait and get stealth as a talent
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Is this malths first appearance in a pro game?
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>>181224328
would be better if:

>Q: Shotgun Blast
>W: Evade
>E: Roll
>D: Take Cover
>R: Crouch
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>>181224328
how boring. a cross of raynor and valla without anything fun in the kit

where's the hover bombs? the remote wasps? the levitator?
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>>181224472
Probably. He may not have been available to be used due to being on an older patch for previous games.
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>>181224494
>>181224328
Evade would have to be a manual evade like in the game Blackthorne.

So skill shots or whatever else you'd have to manually evade by pressing W. Could it work?
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>>181224520
Can't wait to see his win rate in pro games.
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>>181224563
Evade would make him drop to the ground or something while skillshots passed by overhead

Gameplay-wise, it would probably just treat his character as if it were in Medivh's bird form for x seconds
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>>181224663
Depends on the patch they're on, he can be somewhat absurd.
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>>181224513
bombs, wasps, and the levitator could be through talents or a R2
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>>181224707
That could make a high skill cap hero.

>Evade skill shot
>Roll to enemy hero: Blast
>Evade back from another skill shot, in retreat

>Crouch pew pew
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>anons actually tried to argue malthael was not ridiculous against immortals
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Why are the KR casters so terrible?

People make fun of Gilly and Dread, but at least they're interesting and actually know stuff about the game.

This KR caster is like "Malth IEL's damage is trait damage. So Anub'arak's uhh.. uhh.... thing won't do any less damage from it."

Literally a quote from less than 30 seconds ago
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>>181225001
ALSO
what is up with the observer? The camera mode isn't in the smooth hovering camera but some stiff camera like he's actually playing the game and dragging his mouse over the minimap.

How do people watch this garbage and how does blizzard let it go through?
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>>181225093
ALSO
just noticed the mouse on the minimap, which means that the observer is using arrow keys to move around
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>>181225001
>>181225093
>>181225169


Actually, you know what? Why is HGC Korrea in a completely different format than the US/EU ones? The casters are sitting down at a desk instead of standing at a fancy table with fancy lighting based on the map selection. The graphics (like scoreboards and upcoming matches, not in game graphics) are completely different. The casters look like they were recruited from local soup kitchens.

It's like not even real HGC.
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>>181225001
The fuckers don't even know that %health damage has a cap. 3652+4%/lvl. It's 3800 at level 1, 8000 at level 20, and about 15000 at level 30.

If something has more hp, you still only treat it as though it's at the cap.
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Ever since the patch a few weeks ago I can't fucking figure out when dailies fucking reset. Jesus fucking Christ this stupid fucking game.
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>>181224728
He's absurd on both patches. He honestly potentially got buffed if you can get 5 targets. 5% armor > .5% health from trait
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NA doesn't even meme this hard.
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>>181225661
it's 1% extra with memento. but yeah, slightly higher skill floor.
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"Malthael will heal Chromie when he attacks her, basically."
~Actual quote, KR casters
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>>181225976
Kr casters failing to realize that a lot of malthael's damage comes from Q, So yeah while he does work better on high HP targets, he's also pretty good against low HP targets.

He's also pretty sticky, even if he has issues chasing cho'gall around. Entomb is better vs cho'gall because it prevents cho from running.
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>>181225976
>his mother tongue is english
>there isnt a restream with commentary in his mother tongue
might as well watch it muted m80
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>>181226065
Malth and Cho'Gall on the same team tho

BlossoM:
Cho'Gall
Medivh
Malth
Auriel

MVP Black:
Chromie
Tychus
Uther
Ragnaros
Stitches

massive clown fiesta
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>>181226176
>ragnaros
oh boy.
might as well get dva since its pre-nerf. offers zerg clear as well while not being total shit.
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>>181226176
Chromie was good into auriel. She shits all over auriel. She's also decent vs cho'gall because he has a hard time returning damage to her.

Rag will do a bit better later on vs malthael.
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>>181226176
"temporal loop, temporal loop, temporal loop" "Chromie is now level 10, can take temporal loop".

Chromie has slowing sands, and had it for 3 levels before the casters realized.
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>>181226438
yeah cause auriel doesnt like hard counters temporal loop.
thats kr casting for ya.
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>>181226489
Medivh too. With a basic ability. they can either aegis it, or they can just use medivh bullshit to soak the damage.
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>>181226489
Yeah, I don't know. I'm still triggered by this observer and not using the smooth camera mode.
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Cho'gall auriel medivh confirmed new braxis meta.
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>>181226176
Ragnaros should have gone lava wave. Enemy team has issues with rotation and waveclear, just fucking shove a lane on cooldown.
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>MVP Black lost to Cho'Gall comp
lul KR
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>>181226901
They probably expected an easy win and got tilted.
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MEMED TO DEATH
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>>181227067
>>181226901
They played it correctly in the early game. They shoved top lane hard before the beacons came up.

What they really needed was lava wave to turn the thumbscrews on the weaknesses of the enemy comp - low waveclear and bad rotations.

Also what the fuck are these casters talking about "low auto attack range with bronze talons on chromie" she has fucking close to 8 aa range with talons.
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>>181225001
They are dock workers. No sane caster would apply to work for hots.
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Which hero should I buy?
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CHAOS COMES
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mvp salty
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>>181227489
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>>181227497
imagine mvp black losing this.
the tilt would be unreal.
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Bridal Zagara when?
Groom Anub when?
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We actually beat this team just now...
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>>181227967
Red team has shit siege, so of course you did.
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Who to buy next? Or should I just keep saving. I really should have gotten kt by this point but I havent.

leoric
butcher
kt
zag
anub
tychus
valeera
rexxar
zul'jin
lunara
probius
falstad
art
cass
murky
gul'dan
sgt hammer
zeratul
malthael
d.va
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>>181227967
>level 2152
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>>181228226
Save 15k for stukov
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>>181228226
Murky.
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>>181228151
I'd chalk it up to red team having nothing to deal with the blue team's Varian AND his backline and getting facerolled as a result.
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How do I actually play Alarak? I seem to get one-shot combo'd by him often, but I just die when I play as him.
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>>181207776
Twinblade is a very stupid choice 9 times out of ten. Unless you are low on dps and have the stun/root to keep enemies in place you are giving the enemy team the win
>>
Memes aside, would Lei Shen be an interesting hero?
>>
varian main here

never pick fury blades

that's all

cya
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>>181228520
>>181228619
I pick CSmash because I like the AAAUUUGHHHAAH!!!!! noise that he makes when he charges
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>>181228610
was he leaked or something? why are people suddenly talking about him?
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>It's a poorly timed boss ping loses an otherwise easily won game
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>>181228880
yeah he's most likely one of the next 12 heroes that were leaked
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time to go to sleep and wake up hoping that stukov's kit isnt shit

best of luck to anyone who waits patiently for the announcement
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>>181229156
Expect a Medivh style Specialist
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nova is such a fucking skank I swear to god
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>>181229317
No order but

1Malthael
2Dva
3Stukov
4Junkrat
5Ana
6Reinhardt
7Blackthorne
8Snake Sanders
9Kelthuzad
10Maiev
11Lei Shen
12Mengsk
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>>181229409
>>181229317
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>>181229409
>>181229438
He's talking ut of his ass. The only ones we know are coming are Junkrat and KT

Maiev never ever
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>>181203958
>>181205275
in this game woman wear shorts, and men thongs...
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I...I'm new. Started with 2.0, fully admit I am a noob, but have made an effort go get better via understanding map mechanics, individual hero abilities, counters, drafting etc. I have no doubt I've utterly nuked my QM MMR by leveling as many characters as possible to 5 to understand how they work + figure out what I like

I'm doing my placements right now, fully expect to be placed bronze, but...I don't understand. My last three games have involved being yelled at that we don't have enough tanks (we had a Jo and I was Deha), being told "NOBODY SOAKS IN RANKED" when I went to soak mid and asked someone to soak bot because we were 8 and enemy was 10, being told Kerrigan was "a bad healer" (???) as well as bad on infernal shrines. Samuro first bans (???), Uther last pick solo healer when enemy team had no stun/root/silence and mostly ability dmg. Idgi, I look at some of the profiles of my teammates and they're like...people who've been playing a year, level 600s, etc. Does this shit actually get better?

>inb4 blog post
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>>181230117
Learn then play ranked, not the other way around.
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>>181218773
Much nicer than the malth/necro one. Really hated the colours in it
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>>181229991
Imagine if there was another skin that's literally the same as Tracer's shorts and top, but with more skin shown and it'd be 4 times more expensive.
The uproar would be uncontainable
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>>181230189
That's exactly what I did m8. I took the time to learn how most of the heroes work, and can comfortably play 3-4 heroes for each role, and somehow people don't seem to get fundamental rules like "don't teamfight a talent down, don't teamfight outnumbered, soak every lane to 10-12" and that's not even getting into map specific shit like drafting for single target dps on BoE, bribe/siege on Hanamura, mercenary lord gimmicks on Mines, etc
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>>181230325
Now learn cooldowns and you're plat+
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>>181229769
why did Blackthorne go? wasnt he usually in the window?
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>>181229769
>one day maiev will be sitting there alone
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>>181229769
Does Kyle take Stukov's place now?
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>>181229769

Kyle Vlaros now takes Stukov's chair?
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>Turn off chat
>Games become twice as fun
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>>181230959
>can't out bant his teammates
Bronze in everything
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>>181229047
>ping spam a free keep
>everyone ignores it
>someone randomly mispings boss
>military level coordination
>get wiped everytime
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>>181231289
>get boss
>some retard says to get the fort in another lane
>tell them to push with the boss for the keep
>they follow the other guy
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>>181223890
Her trait is that no matter who deals the killing blow to her Varian will get the kill credit.
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>>181229409
>lei shin
fucking stop, no one cares about your shitty husbando literal who
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>>181231749
he's coming
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I assume the summer skins/mounts/etc go down in dorito price after the two weeks mark as well? I don't want to spend 150 shards on a spray.
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>>181206041
>black king's march is him flailing a giant water noodle around
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i'm in a ffucking dream lads, malthael and stukov in a row? holy shit, if maiev is this year and kelthuzad even fuck me ill never stop playing this game
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>>181208828
>mouse over portrait
>name is displayed
>>
Did Arthas get changed recently? His talents seem different from what I remember
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>>181232374
>hero is chosen
>name splashes in big as fuck letters


Ok granted you can also hover, it wouldn't be a negative to actually have the hero name be somewhere near the octagon portrait or w/e the fuck it is
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>>181232192
Depends on how long the event lasts. If it's 3weeks+, probably.
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>>181218594
that's what I like in this game, you can win by multiple means and pushing is a very good one at that.
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Allright niggas

Expect a full remake of Morales Model soon, due to SC Remastered Morales look
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>>181233137
>due to SC Remastered Morales look

except that she never appeared in anything before HOTS
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>>181232962
>june 27, and lasts until the week of july 24

Wait and see it is
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>>181233186

Malal from Retconnian says hi

She is the UED medic through the entire campaign
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>tfw end up game with fairly low hero damage as Genji because too afraid to dive
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>>181233372
who
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>>181233598
Isn't half his kit all about map presence and threatening mind games? Feels like a major part of what makes him so good is that his mobility functions as pseudo global letting him easily soak multiple lanes while threatening ganks. Huge part of his skill floor seems to involve knowing when and where to show up just to pressure with his presence.
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>>181233927
>This game
>Skill
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>>181233927
All I know is he's made of paper so you have to be picky when engaging
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>>181233137
They're not going to do a full remake of a model. The reason so many of the old master skins were shit and why some legendary skins are banned from tournaments is because a model and its skillshots and casts have to be consistent in looking the way the pros are used to practicing with when observed from above.
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When's the Europoor Bishi Bashy Runaround?
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>be muted
>trying to get my team to def doubloons turn in
>shitty malthael, retarded diablo and garbage nova get butthurt because I ping them
why do people get so angry when you ping them ?
It's not like I have any other way to communicate
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>>181234564
Because pinging makes you look like an annoying cunt that doesn't like it when people don't do what he wants
Don't get muted in the first place asshat
>>
Stupid question
But if I'm Tracer, how do I manually stop auto attacking for when Genji uses reflect?
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>>181234723
Press S
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>>181234658
t. off position bronzie nova picker
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>>181234834
See this butthurt behaviour is why you got muted in the first place buddy
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>>181234434

remaking but keeping the anims is fine

also everyone asked for it, id be glad if morales model goes on the same way as raynor and Tychus
>>
>our team: murky, hammer, zagara, greymane, tyrael
>their team: genji, dva, tracer, stitches, greymane
>battlefield of eternity

blizzard finally figured out how to make me switch to draft
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>>181234879
get bent jamal, hope you get the whip tonight
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>>181234564
>instead of pinging "on my way" and "assist" once you spam ping 9001 times constantly the entire game
Yeah i wonder why people are upset its not like it's incredibly annoying or anything
>>
Why does first win of the day reset 20 hours after you get it instead of at a regular time every day?
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>>181229991
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So I just got Memedivh from a loot chest, what are some good ways to build/meme with him in QM?
>>
So, I'm watching these Koreans play and they first ban Illidan. Didn't /hotsg/ say that Illidan is bad?
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>>181235632
lol
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>>181235645
gooks LOVE autistic 900000 apm heroes
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Taking bets on our boi Stukov's kit

Support or specialist? Multiclass?
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valla is for ______
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>>181235645
Koreans don't play the same game as the rest of the world. That's why they lost to EU in HGC last week. They pick shit like Li Ming, Genji, Illidan, Tracet, Abathur, etc just so they can feel like this game is exciting at the pro level and they lose because real drafts fuck them.
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>>181235865
pusy
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>If you pick this you will get a match the fastest!
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>>181235781
Multiclass assassin/support
Stealth
Q Does wikdsik damage
W Has 1k heal
E speaks russian
Doing any of these actions from stealth spawns 2 zerg units near each enemy
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>>181235950
That isn't at all what Mystery Nigga means, it just means you will fill as less played roles, sometimes actually increasing queue time.
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>>181235906

Koreans Also decided to play OW because they SUCK on every FPS game, and its the only baby FPS game that they can play it and be good.

meanwhile, a good chunk of OW western pros went to play and watch the 1million quake champions world tournament EU qualifiers this week
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>>181235865

the trash
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>>181235645
Funny enough I don't even like Illidan but he is one my highest win-rate heroes. He scales pretty hard and can easily get away from most situations. Of course gooks have been playing like shit when it comes to this game for some reason.
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>>181233927
No his kit is about dealing unpunishable, hence huge dps and going in with your super balanced dragonblade when they inevitably get low on hp. Just use one of your get out of jail cards every time they try to hard engage you. Genji will be immensely retarded as long as his sustained damage stays both strong and super safe since he can both enable himself too easily and contribute in a fight even if he shouldn't be able to.

Good thing the vast majority of hots players have godawful mechanics / game sense and just dash in like retards because any non retarded genji makes me want to shoot myself and my dog.
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>>181235906
They also pick cho'gall unironically
>>
>>181236303
please don't hurt the poor dog m8
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>>181236303
Shoot yourself first then the dog
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>>181235781
Specialist/Support

D Infest, buffs a structure and minions in that lane, can infest enemy structures below 50%hp, making them yours for 30sc

Q Corrosive Blast, skillshot, does damage over time
W Some sort of ally buff or AoE slow for enemies
E Regeneration, aura with passive heals, activate to consume infested terrans to empower it temporarily

R1 Apocalisk Now, Stukov is replaced/rides on a giant Apocalisk empowering his melee AA and replacing his Q with a charge forward ability and his W with AoE attack
R2 Aleksander, calls down his battleship, acts like Hyperion but drops infested marines in its path instead of firing. Upgrade at 20 infests enemy structures for 10sc even if they are healthy.
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>>181236012
Really made me think.
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>>181236934
>as possible
Ayyy
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0 decides which hero I exclusively play for the next 365 days.
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>>181237134
Medievh
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>>181237134
antimage
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>>181237134
Murky
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>>181236837
I don't think structure memes will happen because it punishes you for winning and that's stupid and unfun.
>we pushed their buildings in, guess stukov is half effective now
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>>181237134
nova
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>>181237134
Benji
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>>181230117
Ignore them, most of the times they don't know what they don't know.
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>>181237134
Stukov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5X69vREAg
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>>181228683
Yeh I love that build. I basically do what those fury tards are trying to do without feeding
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>>181232315
I call it the swag walk.
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>>181235865
C-string panties.
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>>181235781

as someone who never played brood war/schots and only has a rudimentary level of knowledge of his shit

d: infest friendly structure, making it put out # extra minions and have better defense/hp
q: infested bunker, put down a little bunker that can block chokepoints and spawns a marine every so often, using q again makes it grow legs and walk to new target location
w: infested civilians, after a short delay make a bunch of shitty little zerg dudes appear like zombie wall but more offensive
e: spine arm, his zergy arm reaches super far and pokes someone, making them visible in a large area for a while
r1: aleksander, his ship appears and starts dropping civilians and bombs on target location, cross between azmodan and raynors ultis
r2: infested siege tank, summons a destructable tank that simultaneously whips nearby enemies and fires infested marines at the nearest structure
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When the FUCK is the REVEAL
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>>181237797

after the pro game that starts in 1hr 40mins
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>>181230259
>>181235532
while ppl keep aplauding gay shit there is no hope.
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>>181237797
in approx. 3 more hours, I hope fanatic rips kiquid a new one so we can get it faster.
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>>181238107
would you also accept liquid 3-0ing fnatic?
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>>181238107
Actually about 1hr 35m
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>>181238180
that's when the matches start. stukov isn't until after
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>>181237220
fuck yes, thx anon
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>>181238180
Isnt it after the game? I thought it was during the break between EU-NA switch so we still have to wait for the actual match to finish.
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>>181238256
>>181238180

theres two games today, one at 1pm adt and one at 3pm adt

they're showing stukov between them, so whenever game 1 ends
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Any good Heroes of the Storm fanfics? I've read the Worm and RWBY ones on SpaceBattles, but haven't been able to find any others.
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>>181238324
You're welcome!
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Is this brawl the best ever or is it just me?
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>>181238664
Just you, Azmodunk is still the best shit ever.
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>Get Varian on team
>Goes twin blade
>Lose
>Enemy gets Varian on team
>Goes taunt/smash
>Win

Its bad enough the fucker can just walk out of anything.
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>>181238664
I like it because brawl modes are shit and at least its pretty quick.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>181238832
Tuesday patch notes leak

>Changes to Quick Match
>>Removed ability to select Hero before queuing for Quick Match
>>Upon finding a suitable match, all ten players will enter Hero select at the same time
>>Heroes are first come, first serve. Lock in your Hero and go.
>>No duplicate Heroes on the same team. Mirror matches are enabled.

>>Developer Comment: Quick Match has long struggled to find suitable matches with a balanced distribution of player skill and Heroes selected. This change completely removes the need to search for unique Heroes, allowing for faster game finding. In addition, players will know which map they are entering before selecting a Hero, helping players select their own compositions to fit better with one another. There is no ban phase and players do not take turns locking in heroes. The enemy team's hero pool is not revealed until all heroes have been locked in. We will be monitoring and making adjustments to this new system as time progresses.
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>>181238832
Why is twin blade so popular, it's awful
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>>181239153
i would actually like that.
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>>181239298
everyone would actually like that
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>>181239153
Yes pls
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>>181239232
They like to brawl but they are better off picking illidan with that style if you ask me
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>>181239153

i want to believe
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>play colossus smash
>catch any motherfucker in a bad position
>delete him instantly
I stopped rolling taunt even when our team doesn't have tanks, it's too fun
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>>181238614
>game 1 of my year of only murky
>butcher doesn't have quest completed even after 25 minutes
gonna be a long year.
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i like valeera
i am not good at this game

gonna play ranked
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>>181240334
personally I sing Nesun Dorma while playing the game
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>>181240334
>>181240431
I play Azmo and afk in a lane while watching anime. and win the majority of my games doing so
>>
I fucking hate battle of eternity. Either our dps refuses to attack the enemy immortal or everyone decides to defend the entire time.
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>>181240751
My favorite is when my team constantly tries to race instead of getting a few picks first despite our comp not being the racing kind.
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So whats the current Specialist tier list /hotsg/?

1.Murky
2.Nazeebo
3.Azmodan
4.Sylvanas
5.Zagara
6.Hammer
7.Medivh
.
.
.
9001. Xul

Seems about right to me.
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>>181213130
If you're good and want to pull yourself out of trashmode, you want Murky, Probius, Zeratul or Samuro. They contribute the most to the team in carrying XP and objectives while having a team presence in fights, with it being reverse order for Zeratul.
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>>181241293
0. Probius
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>>181214213
**munches seductively in your direction**
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How long until Stukov gameplay?
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>>181241293
nazeebo
azmo
probe
medivh
sylv
hammer
zag
tlv
xul
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>>181241445
35-75 mins
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>>181241485
The liquid/fnatic serie start in 40 mins plus the duration of the games and it will probably go to game 5.
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Reaper in HotS WHEN?
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>>181213130
For support go rehg. with lightning bond you can 1v1 pretty well against most heroes. He has good waveclear and mercing is easy
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>Mal on enemy team
>Try to do objective
>Can't get close because I am the only tank
>Our only counter hero ignores him
>They wonder why we lost the game

I am just going to stop playing tanks. I am tired of begging my team to do anything.
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>>181241293

if you want the real answer

1. Abathur
2. Medivh
3. Nazeebo
4. Sgt. Hammer
5. Azmodan
6. Sylvanas
7. Vikings
8. Zagara
9. Probius
10. Gazlowe
11. Murky
12. Xul
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>>181241919
>Hammer that high

She is worthless and has to have her entire team babysit her just to be to push. Just having chromie is enough to fuck her.
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>>181205275

valla neglect need to end
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>tfw no voice will ever come close to Pavarotti
I need someone new to carry me through ranked once my silence goes off
>>
why does no one know when to give up?

When you are 5 levels behind with 2 afk and no keeps, why the fuck do you think you can win?
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>>181242090
You can't win but you can draw out the match for more exp
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>>181203390
Something that I've noticed with this games community is that both in reddit (yeah i know) and here pretty everyone hates matchmaking and believes in elo hell. Why does this community actually think that elo hell exists when in every other competitive game you're just told to git gud and fuck off.
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>>181242138
cause you literally need to win one teamfight in the late game to blast through two keeps and push core, I've done it
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>>181242187
That too. All it takes is one greedy assassin.
>>
>hey guys first time playing this hero haha hope u guys dont mind XD :P ^_^ :3
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>>181241846
It's an endless struggle really.
>Play tank, peel for your squishies, set up plays
>No one follows up, re engage after your peel, assassins focus Johanna/d.va
>Switch to assassins
>Tank takes stupid fights, doesn't peel when enemies dive you, support thinks they're dps and refuse to heal
>Switch to support
>Team fights down a level, outnumbered and wonders why you don't save them
The only way to win is to play pve and ignore everyone else
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>>181242160
Dota 2 and LoL are based aroundsingle player carry, it's impossible in HotS
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>>181242090
Because I seen dumb shit win and for the most part the one faggot that wants to surrender is usually the main reason we end up losing so might as well make them suffer for it. I can't tell you how many games I had where we were down a bunch of forts, but still won because winning that late game team fight is such a huge game changer.

Having mule helps a lot too.
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>>181242160
People can't accept that they're just not as good as they think they are
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>>181242247
>people say this in ai games while I'm levelling shit heroes and completing quests

Like it matters
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>>181242160
Everyone thinks they are better than what they really are.
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>>181242303
I don't believe elo hell is a thing but I do bleive the lower the rnak the more often you will get people that will throw/afk. Just doing my placement matches I had 3 dc right at the start. Of course I am going more off of solo que then team que.
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>>181242160
Because in this game unlike lol and dota 2 is the 90% of the community is from shit-tier blizzard games like WoW/OW with the most casual audiences and you unironically see shit like >>181242261 in low-tier ranked games and thus said casuals leak into ranked very easily and can fuck up an entire match. not saying bad players don't exist and think they are amazing but it's nearly impossible to solo carry a bad team in this game.
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currently at 47% winrate, think I can make it to 30?
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Why do so many normies play this game?
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>>181242618

because the autistic valve sheeps plays Dota and the Fagots already plays LoL
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>>181242090
Because there is no reason to give up. You can comeback at literally any point regardless of defict in this game if the enemy makes a big enough or series of mistakes. Giving up is for children who don't get their way and just want to mash the power button so they don't have to actually try anymore.
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>>181242618
Because there isn't a lot of mechanics which lets you easily get into the game. Hell I know an old guy who sucks at games actually do decent in hots. Of course people still think HOTS is like LoL/Dota so they are the ones that suck the most. Despite being such a simple game doing the objective such a strange concept for people.
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>>181242618
Its simple, fun and fast. It has a much lower skill floor than other MOBAs which makes it more appealing to the masses as its easier to begin.
>>
>play specialists like azmo or naz
>do very well, usually end up winning
>play anything but specialist
>play like a shitter and lose horribly
is it autism?
>>
looks like stukov will be revealed after first game so in about ~30 min
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>>181242572
keep playing medivh, you will soon
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>>181243391
no it's called being a PvE shitter carried by his team
>>
http://us.heroesofthestorm.com/esports/en/

reminder that esports(tm) starts on the hour and mr stukov's wild ride begins once the first match is over
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>buy an hero for 10k
>get bored after 1 game
>buy another one for 10k
>get bored after 1 game
What the FUCK is going on?
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>>181243937
Try them before you buy them.
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>>181243937
Wich heroes?
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>>181244669
Varian
Samuro
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Fnatic vs Liquid is on bitches! Only about 1,5hrs for Stukov!
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>>181244837
Samuro isn't meant to be fun. Or good.
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>>181243937
>Play boring game
>Surprised when you get bored
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Who came up with the hero difficulty ratings, and why are they still in place? Chen and BW are anything but hard; just put warnings on junk like TLV instead.
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>>181245446
but brightwing and chen are actually hard
>>
>been sitting on this win 3 games quest since monday
>finally finish it
>get it again
end it all
>>
Abathur buffs when
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>>181245965
>>181203390
I feel pretty comfortable playing abathur besides doing the XP soak properly.

Any tips?
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>>181246189
Gather essence. Stand in sight of minion combat. Improve knowledge.
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>>181246189
Yeah, don't.
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>>181246189
Be ready to bug out at a moment's notice. It's fine if you only soaked a few minion deaths in one hiding place, it's still better than the nothing you would have soaked while staying on the fountain.
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>>181246189
Don't be a bitch. Abathur with 20k exp and 2 deaths is worth more than one with 12k and 0 deaths.
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>>181246538
>abathur
>bug out
Carlos!
>>
FNATIC WON
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>Team game
>No one cares about team league rank, solo only

It's like this in Dota too, if it's a team game why wouldn't you want to queue with a team? I never understood why solo mmr is more important actually.
>>
Poor TL.

They would probably have won had this been D.Va's patch.
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>>181238735
Azmodunk was retarded. It sounded a lot more fun that it actually was because people wanted to farm farm farm rather than just fucking end at 2000+ stacks. 5 people throwing globes at cored killed it in two cycles.
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>>181246881
>choose 5 overpowered as shit heroes
>enemy doesn't ban them or pick any of their own
>win

woowee
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>>181246994
Should've banned Malth.
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>>181244837
Varian isnt OP anymore but csmash build is fun and taunt still good forget twin blades unless u have a anub/diablo/uther on your team
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>>181246189
Mine build is absolutely fucking devastating on some maps (towers of doom). You can sit at your fort in mid lane and push 3 lanes at once, fuck up rotations, put mines behind enemies so that if they have to back out of a fight they take a shitton of damage and slow, mines behind allies so they have retreat paths etc. Mine build can soak very well.

Hat builds are currently FoTM and quite honestly, they're often shit. You need a lot of map awareness and knowledge to play them well.

Locust build is very good at uncountered splitpushing on huge maps (like warhead, cursed hollow, sky temple or shrines).

Bodysoak *always* if it's even the slightest bit safe.
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>>181203390
HIS NAME, LEI SHEN
THE THUNDER KING
>>
LIQUID WON

MSB champs?
CHUMPS MORE LIKE
>>
Shit, 1:1, it's NOT a stomp.

We'll have to wait for Stukov for another 1,5 hour
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>>181248756
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>>181248312
DA TUNDA KANG AND SHEEIT
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>Have both adblock and ublock origin
>Ads still fucking play

THIS IS NOT FUCKING OK WHEN THEY INTERRUPT GAMEPLAY OR SOMETHING IMPORTANT
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more lewd elves soon!
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>>181248974
?
Ads played after game ended during the regular ads
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>>181248974
It doesn't interupt gameplay though, Blizz stream pushes a "ads are ok now" button inbetween games, and Twitch puts that shit on every non-prime-user's stream.
They do not give the OK during matches or reveals you mumbodumbo frogposter.
>>
>Best Aesthetic
>Best Gimmick
>Best Annoucer Interaction
>Three Lane map
>Comebacks are possible

Towers of Doom is the best map in the game
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>>181249249
>no core calls
Stop posting this meme
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>>181249065
Neeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer.

Buttslut crusader is best girl.
>>
>>181249249
by that post you make it seem like Hanamura is at least good
>>
>>181249065
>This will never be a skin for Tyrande

Bikini archers in wc3 were sexy, could easily be a bikini skin for Tyrande.
>>
>win one teamfight mid
>take throne
jesus
i see why they're doing this as bo5 now
>>
>>181249360
Tyrande's got enough sexy skins. Let the other girls get some love
>>
>>181249328

How?

>Good aesthetic
>SHIT gimmick
>SHIT annoucer
>2 Lane map
>Comebacks almost impossible
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>>181249426
>tfw no night elf skin for Kerrigan
>>
ABATHUR HAS BEEN FIRST PICKED
I REPEAT
ABATHUR HAS BEEN PICKED
NOT A DRILL
>>
>>181249360
It's distinct enough to be separate character, with low braid, giant shoulderpads and backquiver.
Shandris? She was leaked/considered many months ago.
>>
>>181249575
Abathur was last picked last game, wasn't he?
>>
>tfw cannot win a single game
pisses me off how it's impossible to solo carry this game.
>>
>>181249454
comeback on hanamura is insanely easy, you just need one late game team wipe to come back from a 5:1 game
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>>181249575
Good. Organism Abathur Will. Not. Fail.
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>>181249723
Teamwork is a skill, git gud
>>
>>181246189
Grubby has a few videos up where he plays aba. Explains fairly in depth why he does what he does when he does. His micro is especially good
>removing hatted minions before they die so he can have cooldowns on his own terms
>explaining why opponent is good/bad for directly targeting his hats
>explaining how/why he secures vision with mines where he does
A lot of abas are too concerned with staying alive/paranoid of dying but you can see him openly bodysoaking not even in a bush because he's constantly booping around the minimap and has such good map awareness that he's only ever hatting minions for a few seconds at a time to squeeze out as much soak as possible while still making clutch shields/showing up to hat for teamfights and skirmishes
Srey has a "how good is" vid explaining talents too, which is better than his usually ones because he actually goes in depth on what comps each build is good for
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>>181249803

Much as I like anime, I truly hate pictures like this.
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Is it even possible to die with this hero?
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>>181249825
>Grubby
almost as bad as nubkeks
>dude makes a positioning tutorial video
>is off position 90% of the time
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>>181249575
With uther having an absolute shit time healing groups abathur could go mine build and just litter shit all over the place getting tons of free damage.

>>181249862
Pic related.
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>>181249937
>calling yourself nubkeks
what a fag
>>
>>181249960
anime is an ongoing mistake
>>
>>181249937
Grubby's play is questionable, his wisdom isn't. His tips are solid and his insight is pretty valuable. He doesn't make videos like "HEROES 101/ ROAD TO GRANDMASTER NUBKEKS GAMEPLAY/ HOW TO PLAY SPECIALIST/ASSASSINS/ EZ TUTORIAL CLIMB TO GM IN UNDER WEEK CLICK ME PLEASE".
>>
>>181245931
I've been getting the play two games as a diablo/warcraft/starcraft hero every day for the past months.
Blizzard is really trying to reduce the amount of gold players can earn.
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>get legendary
>its a surfboard
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>Hanamura
>escorting payload = shot on core, no XP
>sieging and taking keep = XP and next payload gets extra shot
>bribe gives disproportionate XP
>double sup = never backing from siege
Why do people not understand how easy this map is to win if played properly?
>>
>>181250373
Thats just bad luck, Ive gotten 800/600g quests almost every day for a week or two.
>>
>>181250487
>when you're winning 3:1 and your team decides to go boss despite you warning them that boss is a throw, they get wiped out and the opposite team wins before you respawn
>>
>>181250331
I just find grubby a reasonable streamer to watch so I can learn shit. That nubkeks faggot is intolerable to me on pretty much every level desu, but especially that nasally autistic voice. He's like a RL comic book guy that sounds/acts super punchable
>>
>>181250487
because in the majority of matches, 1-3 people are trying to do this strat, while the rest are trying to push payloads and get in every pointless fight they can find

they lose because the whole team didn't commit to the strat, they assume this means the strat doesn't work, they never try the strat
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Hopefully Fnatic stomps the next match, too. It's almost not worth watching this just for Stukov.
>>
Abathur became so much worse when they released Dehaka. Used to be my most played hero.
>>
>>181251008
me three
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>>181250737
Yeh it just boggles my fucking mind that people immediately rush to the really shitty objective when there is literally no penalty for delaying a bit

Same thing with Haunted Mines, that map has the shittiest, most time consuming objective boss, where Mercenaries and soaking give way better returns for the first 3 objectives at the very least, yet people will contest the mine boss golem at 2v5, even though Merc lord talented sappers can instanuke the entire wall/towers before the mines are even a quarter done
>>
>best of 5

FUCK
OFF
>>
>hideous angel diablo skin is 1,600 sharts
for what purpose?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgs9OhjAE2g
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>>181251402

>Defiling Auriel's beautiful body with edge shit

I hate it too
>>
WTF FNatic Tyrael ban?
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>>181251402
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>>181250487
Because people expect that playing the map the way it was intended to be played would be the optimal way, considering objective is always meant to be the main win condition
Yes, it's stupid, but Blizz can't expect an audience of mostly casual players to realize that the map needs to be played "wrong" to be run optimally
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>>181251794
Tyrael and Malthael is busted strong. They are afraid of Malthael snowball.
>>
so, wait, what should I be doing on hanamura? ignoring carts?
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>>181251806
??
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>>181251935
Get camps and push the fuck out of a lane, stall the enemy carts then push yours.
>>
>>181251935
Pushing buildings is the most valuable thing you can do with your time. Pushing the cart with more bullets on it will always be stronger thsn just mindlessly trading carts.
>>
>>181251935
more camps than nazi germany
>>
>>181251908

Is a comp with all 3 angels viable?
>>
>>181252137
Yes it is.
>>
>>181251935
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJNRJNFpJ0
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>>181252137
Add Valla and Anub and you should do alright, Diablo could work for full on Angel team but that will depend on how good your Diablo is.
>>
>>181238664
Don't let dumb and bitter old /vg/ fool you. This brawl is 10000 times better than the "basically just a regular map" brawls.
>>
well gg we are going to game 5 fuck this shit i want stukov now
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>>181252409
It's short, it's fun and you only need to do 2 of them.
Best brawl yet, though I absolutely adored the snowball brawls.
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is "hots" a success now?
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when is the stukov stream thing?
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>>181253056
40 minutes most likely
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>>181252870
Sure, it's certainly not a failure just doesn't have the massive autist following if League or diehard thirdworlders that Dota has.

Still a good game overall.
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>>181253056
It's already on. Check twitch. The presentation will begin after the current series of games end.
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>>181253056
when the current serie is over and we are probably going to have one more game.
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>>181252870
tournament going on. so no
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>>181252870
>Run Escape that high
huh?
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>>181253056
After this best of five is decided. We're on game 3. If fanatic wins, after that.
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>gets choked by a cock.....tail
wew this shoutcaster
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>>181253238
>Liquid has Malth
>but the Malth player is a fucking MORON who wastes mana using E on the immortal while he's hitting it
Fnatic should have it, Malth isn't so broken they can't win with a complete idiot at the wheel.
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Why do pro reghars not get the trait for increased mana/health in wolf form? It's amazing and these pros are so often mana starved as him
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https://www.destructoid.com/starcraft-s-alexei-stukov-is-coming-to-heroes-of-the-storm-as-a-support-445783.phtml

who /support/ here
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>>181253438
Healing Totem is ok value and also a WARD
Pros love their wards
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>>181247453
How should I use the Locusts? What is the proper range of soaking XP?
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>>181253463
>support
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Damn, this is what every brawl should be like
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>>181253463
Fucking DROPPED
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>>181253463
You fucking faggot we don't care about that shit. We just want to see what his abilities look like in game.
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>>181253463
>no structure shit
>3 "arm" abilities
>better Malfurion/Lucio
i like it
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>>181253438
Because it's not as good as lightning bond. Lightning bond is fucking amazing. If you're not playing with retards it's very easy to manage your mana because they understand they dont have a morales on their ass all the time.

>>181253596
Xp soak is about half the screen or so. Locusts can be used to backdoor very well; Later locust talents like nest are crazy. You can have 7 locusts pushing down a lane, each one being basically half of a catapult.
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>>181253463
Day 1 buy, I absolutely loved channeling upheavel for the full 12 seconds back when I played dota 2. Too bad he doesn't have the alecskander. I would've loved that instead of the flail.
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FENIX
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>>181253824
Lightning Bond is 1, Feral Heart is 4 bruh
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FENIX
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>>181253438
>240 base heal on an entire team
>500 BASE heal on trait activation on the entire team
>possible to quest to 750 BASE heal
Uh oh.

Good thing is he's got very low damage from the looks of it, but it's also a baseline AoE silence in there. Also 2s roots, potentionally AoE. Also Blinds. Also counters CC with no CD heals on stuns.

Very strong from the looks of it, let's see how he plays.
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literally the best loadout possible
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>Fenix
Well memed Blizzard
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fucking trolls
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This is Starcraft DLC not the new hero
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How the fuck do i Cassia really, i suck dongers with her at every time. Even if i just go vs a full aa team they just ignore me and my meek pressence and get value targets.
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>FENIX
>it's starcraft dlc
well memed
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And i took the bait like never before.
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>>181253998
Ah, correct. It's between healing totem (free aoe healing on a ward), mana cost reduction, mana/hp regen and mana regen for hitting shit with lightning bond.

Free heals are pretty fucking massive, thus healing totem.
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>>181253463
As a heal slut I am pleased but I was expecting something more about infesting shit.
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Who is the best character and why is it memeslug?
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>>181254016
>>181253971
>>181254053
That's Starcraft you dumbos.

>>181254084
Just keep stutterstepping and attacking them, you deal good damage. Blind whoever jumps your allies and pick the Blind CD reduction talents with Charged Strikes to get more reduction.
Cassia has an average skill base and a below high skill ceiling outside of hitting Valkyrie, so just keep at it and you'll be fine, there's no other trick to her.
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WTF is this shit?! Where are the fucking infested marines??
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>>181253463
>silence & slow as basic abilities

its anub'arak all over again.

>detainment strike & trash emeral wind as ults

woooooooooooooooooooooooow
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>>181254297
M-maybe when we get an infestor hero
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>>181253463
>silence that lasts until canceled
haha what
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>>181254283
Yeah thats why I said "well memed" dumbo
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>>181254084
Stutter step constantly for her trait, positioning matters a lot with her q, blind stuff if you need to heal or you're dueling an AA hero, never ever commit to fend unless it's to secure a kill because it immobilizes you. Her range is poor til 20 for a ranged hero.
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>>181254297
What made you think they will design yet another starcraft summoning hero when zagara and abathur exist?
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>>181254297
ugh, looks like he has Arthas-Uther midget syndrome
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Stukov is a healslut.

Specialistfags BTFO
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>>181254390
>Anub/Uther are meta
That's a problem? I don't think so, actually.

>>181254446
>retard feels the need to justify himself about his inane remark to a random stranger on a mongolian basket weaving forum
Wew, what a fragile ego you have.
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>>181253463
>Support
Fuck yes, buying him on day 1
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>>181254464
Is this a JoJo reference?
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>>181254464
>what should we make his ults?
>you played prototype, right?
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http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Sylvanas/Sylvanas%20-%20Default/Sylvanas_Yes08.mp3
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Im ok with Stukov's freaky arm.
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>>181253463
Well looks like I'll be sitting on my shekels for at least another month.
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>Lurking Arm (E)
>Channel at a target location, creating an area that Silences enemies inside and deals 144 damage per second to them. Deals 50% reduced damage to non-Heroes. Does not cost Mana while Channeling, and lasts until canceled or interrupted.

wat
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The retard that made stukov a support should be fired then hanged
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Chromie loves you!
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>>181254848
Why
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>>181254825
>Activation costs mana
>channel AAAAAAALL you want
>on cancel CD starts

>>181254848
>SC fags still not happy
Last time I grant you anything you insufferable bastards, no more Starcraft until next year, fuck you.
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>>181254825
its a channel and will probably make Stukov stationary, its fine just play around it I guess.
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>>181254969
>Last time I grant you anything you insufferable bastards, no more Starcraft until next year, fuck you.
If they are just going to completely disregard a characters lore and previous iterations I'm fine with this.
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>>181254969
No anon pls! Dont listen to mean anons and gib mengsk pls.
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>>181254848
Why are you so angry, anon?
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>>18125496
It doesn't fit his lore
>>181254949
Hopefully no one buys shitty stu
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So Stukov has AoE burst heal/regen, AoE slow, can talent AAs to slow at range, and a channeled area silence? Seems pretty good. Not sure about heroics, are they just space makers?
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>>181254848
He wanted to play the cool army russian, but supports are for pussies. Even made a reddit thread about it.
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>>181255151
Bruh they're gonna make him a stealth burst assiasian at this rate
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>>181255330
What?
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>>181255306
His shove heroic looks alright for excluding enemies from team fights for a second. His swipes seem lame but if it has a short cooldown it sounds fun.
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>>181255079
You're not, actually, you think you are but I know better, in just two months you faggots will come crawling out of the bushes and beg for it, and I will look down on you and say
"no"
and you'll have to suck it up, all because you couldn't just be happy with what I give you.

>>181255151
Too late, unless you buy 50 lootboxes to show you're sincere.

>>181255194
>lore
It does fit his lore, he always had his healing aura, we just made it into a more active element of his kit and then extended the basic priniciple into his offensive abilities as well. We didn't include his Co-Op abilities as heroics because there'd be too big an overlay with Kerrigans Ultralisk and Raynor's Hyperion, and the general decision to make him a support stemmed from the need for one, as well as several "summoner" heroes already having their place in the meta. We design to fill niches that aren't filled yet, and there was no reason to make Stukov something similar to Zagara as yet another zerg spamming Starcraft specialist. Visual clutter is a thing!

>>181255330
Give him a try, even though he might not be an assassin he does have a lot of impact even offensively with lots of ways to set up, and make plays with a variety of CC and displacements.
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Idea: At level 20 Probius can get "Shield Battery" talent which lets him put down a shield battery from SC1, teammates and he/she can go and channel a 4 second 10% maxhp shield from it
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>Hating on supports
Fucking assassin shitters. Most supports in this game are extremely unique and really fun to play. I bet you pick twin blades when you play Varian
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Stukov looks beastly, you can basically a push a fag 3 screens away with his ult.

Heal whores rejoice!.
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The leaker was right, he said Stukov would be focused on healing and slowing enemies.

AXOLT LIVES, KELTHUZAD AND JUNKRAT COMING NEXT BABY
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>>181255641
Fuck off shill
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>>181255306
Massive arm says it pushes someone until they hit terrain. Sounds like you'd be able to grab the tank/healer and shove him way, way over to the other side of the map while your dudes rape their team.
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>>181255737
Another OW hero already?
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They did go with the "infestation" angle like he's known for but in an entirely different direction that doesn't seem to fit much of how he's played in SC2 beyond "he has a pulsing heal". He seems interesting to play but I'm kinda let down that this is the kit they went with for him.
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>>181255770
>So long, Gay Bowser!
>push someone in to your towers
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>>181255737
>Kel'thuzad

Don't do it to me anon...don't...
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>>181255863
Kelthuzas and Junkrat were leaked weeks ago alongside Dva,Malthael and Stukov, they are the 2 guys left now
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>>181254283
>>181254454
Thanks i'm kinda doing that already,need more of an idea in talents, people say that the level 1 fend talent is prett beast but i tend to favor the q one since i can finish it pretty fast
As for ultimates i orbitate more towards valkyrie, i never get good value out of light ball
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>>181253864
the alecsander
or his regen aura
or his corrosive blast
or infested marines
or fucking anything that made his character

whoever designed stukov, both his model and his kit deserves to be fucking shot
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>>181254848
Why? Ebola healing/slowing looks fun
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>>181255737
>trashmouse is going to be the silver league favorite in two different games
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>>181255770
Massive arm is going to be good for people that know how to use it, it's gonna be garbage for people with no positional awareness.
Shitters are gonna take it anyways because its what the pros use.
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>not muh stukov!

co-op babies are the worst.
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>>181255641
He's just a gerneric healslut now, a specialist would've been much more interesting.

You didn't fill any niche senpai
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>>181254707
thank blizzard for making shit characters no one would buy
saves me money
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>>181255641
K I just bought 100 lootboxes, Will you release Fenix next plz?
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>>181255869
no one in the hots team played starcraft so that explains his kit being the way it is
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>>181256013
Since it gives you armor while you're pushing I think that you're stuck channeling it the whole time. People will stun you out of it if you try and shove people first thing instead of waiting for their CC to be used. And then it's even worse if people use it just for a whopping 200 damage or they try to do the mile long arm of the law when they should be healing their team.
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Who else ready for Kel'thuzad support?
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>>181256138
Stukov was asked by the community often. I buy all the releases after they become 10k.
It helps that I have all the heroes I want already so my gold won't be spent on anything else anyway.
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I don't think Stukov's kit fits his character, but I'm still going to play him.
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/stukov/

>difficulty: 3
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>181255920
the leaks were all right bro, its all confirmed now OUR BOY THE ARCH LICH BE COMING
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multiclass was a mistake
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>>181255641
fuck off retard stop larping as blizz no one buys your shit
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HAHA AGAIN!
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>>181256404
He'll be a healslut
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So since I haven't played any Blizzard games before I tried to read into the characters lores via the WoW wiki and I don't know if this is tragic or comical
>Tyrande, Malfurion and Illidan grew up together
>Tyrande and Malfurion got their shit together, while Illidan tried to impress Tyrande with magic tricks
>What he didn't know is, that Tyrande already got that wooden Malfurion dick
>He found out and tried to clear his mind by leaving
>Arguably strongest evil titan burned out his eyes, gave him tattoos against his will
>Tries to come back to Mal and Tyrande to make up
>Demi god and Mal imprison him for 10,000 years
>Free him, because they need his power to defeat evil army
>He does it, because Tyrande was asking him
>He defeats them and as a thanks gets banished for it
>Then he gets murdered

Now I know why he's so pissed.
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>>181256140
Post proof of it.

>>181256060
He's not generic at all since he has very active elements in all of his healing that require positioning and combination of other abilities. You also ignore that he has 3 abilities that deal damage or CC AND 2 ults that are for playmaking.
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esports were a mistake
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>>181256442
which is why the whole concept was dropped after varian.
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If Stukov doesn't summon anything, then I at least demand Xul rework in Stukov's patch
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>>181256583
>>181256016
Samefags are the worst
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>>181255737
which leaker?
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>>181256559
Illidan is alive.
Maive would never allow her sex slave to die.
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>>181256753
He summons a boner in my pants
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>>181256753
he summons damages and heals and all kinds of CC AND displacements :)
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>lorefags btfo again
I love blizzard!
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>>181256760
>babby is angery!

Im sorry babby! Pls no hurt!.
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>>181256760
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>>181256559
Illidan was a pretty powerhungry fuckwit, and kept on pursuing power as a means to try and impress Tyrande. Tyrande however liked the more humble and down-to-earth Malfurion because he was humble.

Illidan really *really* fucked a lot of things up, but for a while he was also favored by Azshara - the night elf queen (they probably banged).

He also poisoned the only source of water his people had available after the world exploded because *magic power*.

He's also a magic addict. He may or may not have been hate-raped by Maiev.
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>>181256373
I'll still buy him when he goes down to 10k, but blizz isnt getting any money from that
its not hard to understand retard, if they make an interesting and visually appealing character they'll sell more of the bundle for gems
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Are all melee attackers fucked against Butcher once he completes his quest and if he has lamb post heroic?
I was just playing a game as Greymane and any time Butcher charged at me there was literally nothing I could do to prevent my death.
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>>181255737
uuuh, can ya give a link to the leak?
pretty please with sugar on top
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>chromie spotlight
what?
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Stukov as a support reeks of them deciding they needed a zerg support and just picking him because he was a popular request.
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>>181256873
>Editing an image

Lul, you forgot the #
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>>181256670
>>181256442
I could see a few more multiclass heroes. Imperius being warrior/assassin. "Firebat" (Gui Montag?) being warrior/assassin.
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>>181256923
>banged Azshara
No fucking way, that bitch is super fucking crazy, like beyond Illidan/Guldan/Cho'gall crazy all at once.
She wants her womb fucking filled with Sargeras molten fel sperm because that's the only thing she acknowledges as worthy of her, even PITLORDS thought she got the lunacy.
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>>181257043
His kit from stracraft had healing, it's not a surprise you autist
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>>181256442
why
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SCfags please leave this general right now if you are gonna be babbies
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>>181256989
Yes. If Butcher wants you dead and you have no Stasis to dodge his CC or teammates that peel for you, you're nothing but FRESH MEAT to him, kiddo.
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>>181257152
One minor part of his kit was
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really hype for kel'thuzad to be a specialist/assassin multiclass guys :~)
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>>181257217
>minor
laffin
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>Dinner over
>Still no new Stukov info
What's taking so long
>>181257085
Sounds like my kind of girl
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>>181257239
I can't wait for him to release so people can finally shut up about it
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>>181257217
And we extended on that. What's so wrong about it? Community wanted more supports and we made one where it made sense.
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So days before everyone was saying he'll be a support or supportish, now that he's a support everyone loses their shit? What a bunch of babies.
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>>181255920

it will be Michael voicing Kt all over again!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw92Ro0UhQw
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>>181257339
>We

w-who are you
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>>181257239
you mean a tank hybrid right?
I mean frost shield was what defined his character, we will expand that and make him the tank you've been asking for :^)
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>Stukov doesn't infest allied forts/keeps and give them bonus armor and make them spawn special infested minions in that lane
BLIZZARD. YOU HAD ONE JOB.
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>tfw stukov will never massive shove his arm into your ass
Why live
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>>181257536
the fucking last thing we need is another meme summoner
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>>181255953
You get huge value out of charged strikes even in its nerfed form compared to the other talents though. The lightning fury talents are okay, but it's basically just there for poke and eh waveclear so talenting heavily for it seems iffy. Same deal with fend, fend is already good and is your finisher so there's no need to talent it hard. Nice thing about Cassia is that many of her tiers have talents unrelated to her abilities, which, given how good a lot of them are at base, means it's not always a waste to take them. Plus she has both her trait and a blind for defense while still having good offensive versatility.

I go Charged Strikes
Ring of the Leech
War Traveler/Surge of Light
Both heroics are good depending on situation, though Valk is a gigantic fuckyou to Morales enemy comps
Seraphs Hymn
Martial Law (if your team has no CC for whatever reason, obv take something else)
Titan's Revenge
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>yfw Stukov could've had a Rag-style ult that temporarily infested his team's core and spawned a wave of infested terrans immediately, with infested tanks if the lane had catapults unlocked

>melee minions could've been firebats and the mage minion could've been an infested ghost with ranged minions being normal infested marines

>tfw blizz hates summons for no reason so they avoid adding any more
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Seems beyond busted
>>
how many days/weeks until hes released
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>>181257476
The healsluts! We are many and you shall fear us
>>
he is so op
>>
I N F I N I T E PUSHBACK
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He looks incredibly fun but also kinda complicated

>>181257072
>#
Whats that?
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>>181257085
Illidan had Sargeras' personal favor for a period of time... and that makes azshara extremely fucking horny.


>“Truly you are favored by him … and, thus, favored by me,” Queen Azshara whispered, drawing close again. “And there are many favors I can grant you, which even he cannot—”
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>>181254848
Same annon here, seeing it in action makes it look kinda fun,

Porobably gonna buy him with gold
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>Global range pushback

I already see him being, like 146% balanced
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>the arm shove has totally unlimited range
>you can push an enemy from one core to the other
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>>181257786
I'd say second or third week of July
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>>181257889
Good luck finding the angle for that
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Did I miss the Stukov info?
Why didn't they have an exact time for this shit?
Could anyone write up the info?
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>pirate skin stukov
hell yea
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>>181257952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBUVUmzxKk
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>When Stukov whips out his humongous arm and shoves some poor shitter to the other end of the map
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>>181257889
>the level 20 talent will push the entire enemy team away
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>>181257889
>you can push Genji ALLLLLLL the fucking way back out of a teamfight
Oh nice, real nice.
It's like a mixture of Gust and Octograb, removes a hero hard if not prevented and has counterplay in CC/just fucking killing him
Still, removing anyone by shoving him 1-2 screens away before you're stopped is GOAT
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>>181258026
Enjoy the ride mother fucker!
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>>181256856
>>181256873
Samefag lul
>>181257835
Look how every reply has a # at the end, then look at the samefags image
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>>181257786
one week ptr then release

>>181257917
malthael was 2 weeks ago.
they aim for 3 weeks for a new hero.
second to third week july would be super late.
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>>181258026
"FUCK OFF GENJI".
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Why would anyone EVER take swipes over the shove?
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>>181258190
Lower CD, massive aoe, imterupts channels and disengages an entire team
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>>181258190
Maps with small tight areas?
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>>181258190
Shove is single target and it roots you. Floppy dick arm knocks around less mobile teams and can help control points like on braxis.

Entomb + floppy dicksmack is going to be hilarious.
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>>181256442
they only made varian multiclass because they needed a gimmick hero for blizzcon and ragnaros's whole "core replacement hero" thing didn't end up happening
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>>181258190
hmm maybe if you dont want to stun yourself for multiple seconds?
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>>181258154
Yeah but the reveal way this week, they wont release him next week. Even malthael wasn't released the same week as his reveal
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Spotlights always make heroes look better than they actually are, he has no escape at all, you get caught you die.

I'll wait for actual gameplay.
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>>181258010
>his in game portrait is also infested

cool
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Oh shit, papa Nurgle in my Nexus!
Day one.
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>>181256989
heroes without access to unstoppable (or just high mobility to run out of charge range) can not do anything on their own to stop butch from solokilling them

however if you are standing safely inside your team they can cc and then 4v1 gangbang him
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>>181258010
Thanks

That arm ulti seems OP as fuck as long as you land it properly. Makes all fights 5v4
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>>181257720
Yeah, lets make every Starcraft hero a fucking summoner because that game is an RTS. Lets remove the possibilities of any more heroes who are units.

Lets make sure that in HL you can lock out all viable support options by sneezing.

Fuck you. His kit looks amazing.
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>>181258412
ptr next tuesday
release in 2 weeks, 4 weeks after malthael.
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>>181258149
I dont have it, must be because im on a mac?
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>>181258190
Shove is fucking useless on like Raven Court.
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>>181258425
>he has no escape at all
Well yes they put that as a minus for him
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>>181257676
What gave him that scar again? Did they give him a bomb baby to keep him in line?
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>>181258697
Nah, its because babby anon is probably running an extension.
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Do we have all the talents yet?
It seems like they showed the worst level 1 talent on the video
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>>181258602
And his playstyle is also counterable.
Teams need to bunch up, which certain other heroes have a field day with
He's low mobility so high mobility or superior range AAers can fuck him hard if he whiffes his shit

I do think his Killswitch Heal is too high, like fuck it's 500 baseline (2500) if it hits the entire team, that's fucking busted like Khara only gives 290 per hero hit and they need to bunch up at the exact moment you heal, meanwhile Stukov can let his spread do it's thing
That shit really needs a high CD/Mana cost.
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>>181258425
his escape is
1. you are a support so you aren't gonna be running around solo anyways unless you're a tard
2. you have both a 70% slow and a meme ultimate to get heroes off your dick while you run away
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>>181258840
>>181253463
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>>181258840
see >>181253463
Plenty of them look good, but I don't see that amazing talent synergy like Malth has, everything can support other parts of his kit equally due to the combo nature so it seems diverse.
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pirate skin ?
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>>181258425
>8
>50% of the video is about how you should group up with your team
>50% is about all the ways he can fuck with, CC, or push back enemies

>"hurr he has no escape"
>"durr he doesn't have a gimmicky little dash or blink so he has no way to avoid getting hit"
"dhfsrhsf because he CCs enemies or knocks them away instead of running away himself, he's somehow a sitting duck according to me!"

God. How do you creatures work a fuckin keyboard.
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>>181259102
Looks sick, goodbye gems!.
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>>181259129

Autism
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>not 1 but 2 self stuns
lel
Nobody is going to use him.
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>>181259323
wanna bet?
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Anyone else afraid that he's gonna get the same treatment Lucio got?

Where he's good and then they just nerf him with no hope for recovery?
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>>181258896
Stukov threw out his heal so everyone is going to group up. Perfect opportunity for Malthael to run in there with 60% armor and even shut down all that healing immediately. Zeratul is going to love him too, easiest VP of his life.

Although it seems outrageously overpowered as a skill to sustain his team between fights. 500hp a pop is really strong.
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>>181259323
His heal is fire and forget, like Malf but FAR more valuable AND can nuke heal his entire team for FREE
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Slyvanas' body is actually fucking amazing
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>>181259129
Nice, you knocked back Genji
Now he's using his other dash to jump right back in your face to continue fucking that ugly mug up
don't pretend you'll land his shove on anything but the closest melee divers, there's plenty of ranged stuff that doesn't need to jump you to fuck your shit up

Also he's more sustained healer with an option of a burst heal with his trait, the cooldown of his trait is too high to take advantage of more than once, maybe twice during an extended teamfight
He has no cleanse and no way to save someone getting focused hard after that one heal
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would be nice to know cool downs and mana cost.
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>>181259367
Yes ofc he looks too good.

>>181259402
Excuse you but his armor cap is not 70%.
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>>181259402
similarly, kharazim and auriel are shit tier because their heals are both AOE and both way smaller than the virus's spread distance
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So what're the chances that lurking arm is gonna be solid waveclear?
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>>181259437
idc if she's a cold dead corpse. I'd slam it.
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>no cleanse
>solo support

what did they mean by this
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>>181258341
entomb should be wombo'd with his infinite channel silence, leo can already just stand in the way to bodyblock
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>>181259446
>cleanse
I wouldn't count on cleanse any longer cause it gets removed from more and more heroes and replaced with inferior options at best

>>181259576
>auriel shit tier
please go wherever you crawled out from and never return. we dont need your wrong opinions in here.
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>>181259446
there's a talent that reduces trait cd to 5s as long as you detonate exactly 1 of the slow bombs
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>>181259584
50% less damage to non-heroes
it's gonna take a while to clear a wave
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>>181227403
brightwing or murky.
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>>181259402
>Malth blows his W to get in
>gets pushed back 2 screens immediately
Did you forget that Malth's primary weakness is CC? CC him and he can't apply mark or teleport or heal.

>>181259446
>Now he's using his other dash to jump right back in your face to continue fucking that ugly mug up
>implying he has enough mobility to jump right back on you if you push him over a screen away
>implying you don't still have pustules to slow him
>implying your team won't CC him and gangrape him outside of deflect
>implying GENJI COULDN'T JUST DO ALL THE SHIT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO LITERALLY ANY OTHER HERO WITH ANY MOBILITY AT ALL

You dumb, inbred fuck. You're arguing FOR power creep. You're arguing that because Genji exists any hero less mobile than him is a sitting duck by default. Like you think all fucking heroes should have Genji level mobility.
Like Genji's mobility alone is the answer to life's questions. Like if you gave Stukov a dash or a vault with his arm he'd suddenly be any less weak to Genji, when Genji has multiple mobility options.

Jesus fuck. Take 30 seconds to think before you type you mongoloid fuck.
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>>181259584
74 damage per second on
>wizard + archers
>warriros + wizard
with an upfront cost, that roots you and makes it very easy to hit any skillshots on you
I don't think he'll be that good, only ok
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>>181259584
It's 70dps against minions which is 10 less than DVA, so probably surprisingly good. Especially if you take the expanding arm to get the whole wave at once.
>>181259728
He'd lose the armor but if he really needs to be in there he does have a skill that makes him immune to CC for plenty long enough.
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>>181259362
Do you really seem him knocking uther, rehgar, malf or auriel out of the top spots?
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>>181258527
>Nurgle

Isn't he more like a genestealer or something? Since Zerg equivalent of 40K are supposed to be nids
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>>181259640
That cleanse is dying a slow death and will likely only be situational on heroes like Kharazim in the future
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>>181259913
He is going to be part of double support comps obviously.
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>>181259728
>implying you'll hit your shove
>implying my GM teammates won't immediately stun you
ur the retard now lelelel
in what world you live where only genji will dive backline, why do you think it's 1v1
it's always in genjis favor because he can chose the engagement and you can't get away
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>>181254297
TETSUUOOOO
KANEDAAAAAAA
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>>181260006
He's designed to solo support, I don't think you another supp alongside him unless it's Tass.
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>>181260131
He doesn't look strong enough to solo imo but we will see.
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>>181260014
>ur the retard now lelelel
everything is clear now
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>>181260169
Hit trait heals for 500 to your entire team level 1 apparently, so there's a legit chance he can solo heal in certain comps
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>>181259640
Cleanse is only used by tournyfags and tryhards. Not but seriously it's most likely on it's way out.

>>181260006
Have you read his talents yet? He's gonna be fine on his own. If anything he's very similar to those two in terms of what he can bring to a fight. Aside from say a stun of course.
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so zenyatta confirmed for never?
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>>181260414
who the fuck cares we dont want overshit in our game
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>>181260414
Yeh, probs. Junkrat is next.
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>when overwatch was about to be released they put tracer in the game
>overwatch anniversary coming up
>they made a big deal and released dva
>d3 dlc coming up
>mr teleports behind you is released
>brood war remaster coming up
>stukov announced
this game was killed by the big guys at blizzard wasnt it? they swapped lead designers and turned it into advertising for their other games
100% they have all the heroes everyone here wants on the burner and wont release them unless their respective games gets some type of new content
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>>181260496
>implying it was ever alive
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>>181260453
>we
>our
speak for you'reself chump
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>>181260496
>Stukov
>Malthael
>Not heroes people wanted
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>>181260496
nah they released Diablo when Diablo 2 was about to release
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>>181260496
>"Blizzcon the game"
>Gets mad at cross promotions

Hm.
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>>181260496
>mr teleports behind you is released
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>>181260496
lmao ur dumb
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>>181260496
I seriously hope you're pretending to be retarded
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>Stukov announced
>he's a... support?
>viral-based healing and dots
>global knockback ult with potential for retarded plays
I never knew I wanted this.
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Stukov's musical theme was announced, check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsfhADiaP5E
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>>181260496
>heroes everyone here wants
You mean like Malthael and Stukov?
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>>181242049
amen
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>>181260797
I feel like the general consensus was he's either gonna be this or a specialist. I don't think anybody really thought he was gonna end up a Support. But it's fucking awesome looking and he's definitely got a solid kit/talents , so I think they're going about this right.

Seriously though can we get a legitimate tank next? Soooo tired of bruisers.
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>>181261072
I don't think anyone thought they were going to meme his arm. Although considering we got ETC instead of cairne it's not really surprising.
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>>181261072
Cant Dva solo tank?
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>>181261289
Im still mad about this, just as mad as I am about all the other shitty meme heroes
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Need an image of Stukov pointing at a door with his monster-arm
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>>181261470
>playing meme games made by the meme company
>complains about memes
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>>181261292
No, her mech has shit peels and shit hp for a tank while offering 0 cc. Shes a bruiser that acts like a fire magnet so she can make the most of her two hp bars.
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>>181261289
True. Idk I dig it. I can't wait to BIONIC ARM people before it gets nerfed and you all know it's gonna happen. He needs a Winter Soldier skin.

>>181261292
Ehhh not really. It all depends on your team. Like I've ran it before a few times with my buddies but she'll never out tank say a Johanna.
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i really like stukov but i hate his ults

like wtf
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>>181261595
Why? Flapping niggers with your flaccid zerg dong and pushing some bitch 3 screens away with your massive erection is absolutely fun stuff, they'll probably be like 10-30sc for the slaps and 30-60sc for the push.

They look fun and add some peel.
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>>181255737
I don't think junkrat would transfer well to a moba though. Don't get me wrong, he's one of my mains in Overwatch, and for sure the hero I find to be the most fun to play, but what are they going to do for autoattack? Or his extra ability other than mine and trap?
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>>181261576
>True. Idk I dig it. I can't wait to BIONIC ARM people before it gets nerfed and you all know it's gonna happen.
I really doubt it gets nerfed. People won't use it for the same reason they don't use mind control. Self stuns are suicidal.
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>>181261821
inb5 you aim your autoattacks with A
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bionic
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>>181261916
Not if it doubles your effective HP bro.
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>>181261960
>>181261821
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What the fuck killed me
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>>181260496
Kel thuzad Announced = HS Lich king Xpac and War 3 Remastered

which means that sooner or later War 3 will be Free
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>>181262058
W
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>>181262156
>warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank warrior tank
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>>181262035
Unless the enemy team is really scared of yours they'll just dive you when you are out of position because you decided to stun yourself.
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>>181262058
Twin Strike with either % damage or while you were vulnerable
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>>181262261
>dude just dive the tanky support with 50% armor
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>>181262147
Where are those models from?
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>2017
>not picking level 20 upgrade for Ancestral
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>>181262430
He isn't so tanky when he loses that armor and is out of position.
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This fucking game took years
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So given that strelok's sweep does almost no damage and only minor knockback, what's the cooldown on it gonna be? Twenty seconds?
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>>181262147
>>181260496

>Warcraft 3 Release Date, July 3 2002
>Warcraft 3 15th Anniversary Date, July 3 2017

Clever blizzard, pretty much fucking clever
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>>181262538
Twenty seconds, but first patch gives him a quest trait that makes it faster
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>>181262538
His push arm has supposedly something like 15-20s cooldown, and the sweep arm is same or even lower
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>>181262532
>>181262532
NEW THREAD
>>181262532
>>181262532
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>>181262538
In consideration of his upgrade running on charges while also not reducing CD, it's probably gonna be 30-40 seconds
20 is too low for that high/wide knockback
60 is too high for a triple charge ult with -that- little impact
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>>181261292
solotank involves actually having disables with which to initiate fights, get picks, peel for your teammates, etc

dva does none of that
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>>181262058
maybe the game bugged out and decided that you were a nonhero for Amateur Opponent
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>>181259630
>not making it even better.
pleb, I'd pound Sylv till my dick fell off.
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Fear. Appropriate.
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