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>>>NEWS<<<
Destiny 2 Gameplay Reveal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn1dML6RC5w
Destiny 2 E3 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8E7jUjOQi0
PC Details: http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2-pc-reveal/
Latest TWAB: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45983/7_This-Week-At-Bungie--06222017

>>>RESET INFO<<<
Nightfall: Taniks has no house, Grounded, Fresh Troops, Match Game, Catapult
Heroic Strikes: Specialist, Exposure, Airborn
Heroic Story: Berserk, Specialist
Crucible Weekly: Doubles

Templar Challenge: Block all Templar teleports
Atheon Challenge: Each player must kill exactly one Oracle each Oracle phase
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ded game
ded thred
ded orbit neeeeeeeeeeds your help, guaaaaaaaaaardian

you are a ded thing made by a ded power in the shape of the ded
all you will ever do is shitpost
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let it die, let it die.
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I'm not alone....

I'm not alone....

I'm...not alone...
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>tfw shrek and fiona try to wreck your shit but get golden gunned
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>>181060059
Are you having fun anon?
If you ever need any help feel free to add people here.
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>>181059834
>>181060260
fuck off bob
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>>181060329
kys
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>>181059794
Ghost standing by to resurrect.
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Should I get into this game again? I didn't do any post-story RoI content
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>>181062728
Wrath is pretty good but that's really all you're missing
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>>181060314
I'm having loads of fun although unfortunately it's really easy to outlevel story missions before you unlock them.

Also I don't see a lot of names around, mostly just autistic shitflinging.
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>>181063012
>that's really all you're missing
Aside from updated raids and veteran rewards
>>181063358
When the dust settles, people will slowly post with names again, especially towards Destiny 2.
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>>181059702
you're supposed to spread it over multiple posts
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>>181062728
If you want the Saladin's Pride and Young Wolf emblems in D2 then yeah.
If you don't care then don't waste your time, D2 beta is in 20 days.

>>181063358
There you go, posted with a name.
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>>181067402
Fuck off, I know how to do it better than you, I made a stalker mod once.
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>>181067536
where is this laid out?
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>>181067981
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45983/7_This-Week-At-Bungie--06222017
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>>181067536
>20 days.
I uh, don't own a PS4
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>>181068438
Oh, bummer, 22 days then, ( think) stars on the 21st fur xbox, right?
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>>181068676
I hope so. Not to say I wouldn't mind playing on PS4, but I already have a ton of xbox stuff.
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>fucking randoms can't do templar challenge
>bro lets do 3 on each side xdddd
Fuck my life
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>>181068676
The beta starts on the 19th on Xbox for anyone who pre-ordered, and the 21st is when it goes into open beta.

The beta ends on both consoles on the 23rd
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>>181071032
Bungie really sucks when it comes to organizing this shit.

Like pick a date and stick with it.
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>>181071329
it's part of Agile. they're not supposed to be afraid of changing dates if they think it will make a difference.
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>>181068118
well shit
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>>181071329
I'm still waiting for the PC Beta.

I haven't played Destiny since April of last year, and I kind of miss it.
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>>181072402
Beta's a beta. unless you're planing to play exclusively on PC and really want the emblem they'll inevitably be handing out for beta participation, you should just got for the console version since you're itching for it.
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>TFW we've not yet seen the cosmetics menu.

What if all the sparrows, shaders, emblems, and ships, are fully listed in the menu from the start and don't need to be managed in storage?
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>>181074064
HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH
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>>181074064
it'd be better than walking up to a giant iphone, for sure
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whoa, that's the first time destiny ever crashed on me
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>>181075923
"Kiosks were a mistake."
- Dante Alighieri.
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>>181073608
The only console I own is a 360 that barely works

I'm not spending three or four hundred dollars just for a beta lol
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>>181076354
Filthy casual get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181076354
Well if you play mostly on PC and exclusives don't interest you enough to justify buying a console, then that's understandable.
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>>181076354
I was about to do the
>2017
>not having a current gen console
but then you mentioned Sbox so yeah just get it for PC, there is literally no reason to buy an Xbone.
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>>181076354
You can get an Xbone for $130.
>>181078615
Halo and Sunset Overdrive at the very least would like to have a word with you.
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>>181078761
>343 fanfiction and watchdogs/imfamous ripoff
No matter how you slice it, both can be played on PC.
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>>181078761
>halo
>xbox one
Lol
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>>181078761
>halo
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>>181080034
>>181081207
It's got better PVP than Destiny 1, that's for fuck sure.
>>181079889
>watchdogs ripoff
????
Also Sunset Overdrive isn't on PC at all.
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>>181081595
The last time halo had good pvp was reach
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>>181081595
Literally no reason to buy an Xbone
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>>181081595
Halo 5 has serviceable PvP but if you played the prior games you'll probably hate it

Halo MCC has no PvP because it takes you half an hour to get matched with other people

Halo on the XB1 is a fucking joke compared to what it was on the original xbox and on the 360
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>>181082226
>blackboard
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>>181082226
>Date of birth.
>January 1st 2017.
Silly babbi, you don't belong here, you are a babbi, leave the internets now.
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>>181082494
>NEET
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>>181082226
Can you play it? Show me a screenshot.
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>>181083515
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>>181078761
>halo
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Do you think they'll have matching shaders?
They flat out said there's more shit they're not gonna say what, after all.
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Is the anon who wanted help doing the two clan-based trophies on PS4 still around? I'm still down for helping him and anyone else who needs the two clan trophies but is too autistic to join a real clan.
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1 more for nightfall.
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is it true whatever Guardian you carry over to Destiny 2 has a "birth date" that represents when you first created the character?
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>>181087641
>fireteam with pandox
nothing has changed has it pandox? by the way, we made a new discord group that you're not allowed in, fuck off alpha meme
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>>181087691
That's the theory. We don't know if it starts with D2 or counts D1 character, and wording is a bit weird because bungie can't do anything normal.

But It seems to be purely a character selection screen thing. Since we've not seen it in menus or when other players were inspected during gameplay videos from reveal and E3.

There's still that "Records" tab that can't be accesssed in demo/beta though.

tl;dr Yes but so far it appears to be only visible to the player.
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>>181087832
Nigga why you so salty lmao
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>>181088001
So if I have a day 1 character and one I made 3 months ago and I carry the newer one over the game will think my day 1 was 3 weeks ago?
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>>181088593
*3 months ago rather
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Xth for if you look real close
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>>181088593
No idea. This image captured from an IGN video is literally all the info we have on this feature. No comment from bungie or IGN on this and the discussions on it are virtually nonexistent. We don't know if its the first time we played destiny, the earliest we made a character, if its different for each character or if it just uses the oldest one. Nothing, everything is purely speculation so your guess is as good as mine.

My theory based on bungie history is that the date will show each character's creation date. But I hope I will be proven wrong and the date will actually show the first day Destiny was played.
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>>181087641
>no trip
fuck off pandox
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>>181059489
I preorderd the game, guys.
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I sadly feel that D2 is going to be a underwhelming experience that will be dragged out for 3 years and only after Destiny 3 is on it's way they will admit this and claim to make a game "bring Destiny back to its roots" which will be a lie.
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>>181089506
Just looked at their fireteam it was Jared. Pandox is too autistic to post without his anime boy
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>>181090324
You just got off the hype train is all, there's no telling what its going to be like until we get our hands on it. I'm keeping cautiously optimistic while staying away from bungie forums and reddit because its fucking depressing.
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>>181070829
What's the best strat for Templar challenge?

I never could decide which is better
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>>181092023
Ideally you want 5 center and relic runner to get the teleports, this allows you to dps the living fuck out of the boss within 2 minutes or less while staying alive.
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>>181090324
>>181090868
Literally everything is better than it was in D1, what is there to be worried about?

>better and longer story
>better graphics
>bigger worlds
>more stuff to do in patrol
>more balanced subclasses
>more balanced PvP and PvE due to weapon slot changes
>easier to get fireteams together for endgame activities
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>>181092708
I actually really hate the way guns are now and the grindy implications that creates.
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>>181093026
>the way guns are now and the grindy implications that creates.

Explain.
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>>181092708
not to mention
>NPCS
>everything is playable space, for real this time
>maps
>true current gen
>>181093096
I think he means how the same weapon drops as either an energy or primary version
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>>181093096
Its like, you wouldn't understand, but I once made a stalker mod, its just something you come to realize when you're one of us programmers.
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>>181093182
They actually clarified that Energy weapons will only ever drop as Energy weapons, and same for Kinetic. So you can't get the same gun, one with element and one without.
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>>181093096
Sure. They are putting emphasis on primaries and making shottys and snipers heavy weapons. This means if you hated the grindy aspect of boss battles and their large health bars it is only going to get worse since DPS output is less. This also homogenizes the game more since everyone will more or less be able to do the same amount of damage. I like fighting the war priest, wiping, seeing who did what damage output and me being shown as the guy who did 80% of the damage. I suspect those days are gone now.
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>>181093251
I think he's talking about the same weapon as in Red Hand IX Kinetic, and Red Hand IX Void. I don't think he meant one item that is both.
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>>181093441
>They are putting emphasis on primaries and making shottys and snipers heavy weapons. This means if you hated the grindy aspect of boss battles and their large health bars it is only going to get worse since DPS output is less.

But this entire argument is based purely on the assumption the bosses in D2 will have the same HP pool and Defense as the bossesin D1, which, if Protheon is any indication, is clearly not the case.

One way or the other, I'm not saying your argument isn't credible, I'd just caution against weighing knowledge of D2's feature against stat values we're used to in D1.
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>>181093441
>This means if you hated the grindy aspect of boss battles and their large health bars it is only going to get worse since DPS output is less.

If you watch footage of the Strike they've shown off, it's very clear that bosses have a lot less health now. They were plinking away at him with primaries and managed to kill him rather quickly.

I'm the opposite of you, I think the game is going to be way more fun and much less grindy due to this change, because bosses aren't going to have massive health pools and just a matter of whether or not you have ammo.

I get what you mean with raids now, either raid bosses are going to much easier to kill as well, or we're going to be damaging raid bosses some other way. Either way I think it's a plus though, it's going to make raids so much more interesting rather than just "clear adds, stand in a circle and snipe the boss, repeat".

The weapon changes are by far the biggest change to D2 but I think it's the best change. It's going to completely change the dynamic of the game but also make it more fun, since you will always have 2 guns you can use rather than just 1, and all your mega DPS output will be dedicated to one slot, which makes decision making a lot easier.
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>>181093858
You also assume that the weapons used in the demo aren't overpowered or those are even the final numbers. I don't see Bungie gimping weapons like this and making enemies easier especially on raids. Also it's really just the homogenization that gets me the most we will all be the same more or less. This is evident with how skill trees are handled now and there is even less diversity with weapons.
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>>181093939
I guess we are opposite. i like complexity and choice. I don't like bungie telling us how to play and making us all the same more or less.
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>>181093441
I fucking hate how casuals toss the word grindy so freely
Somewhat challenging fight? grindy. kill three of the same enemy for a quest? grindy. Giant has more hp than a rat? grindy.
Fucking off yourself you turbodoubleshitter
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>>181094067
>You also assume that the weapons used in the demo aren't overpowered or those are even the final numbers.
That's true, but I'm still trying to refrain from bias, by judging D2 as an individual entity rather than just a content drop for D1. D2 is clearly intended to be very much an individual entity rather than Destiny Lite. I'm judging Destiny 2 by Destiny 2 beta/demo, not as a Destiny 1 with changed inventory slots which Is why I said I'd caution against weighing knowledge of D2's feature against stat values we're used to in D1.

I'm not telling you to not to assume, both our arguments are purely hypothetical, I'm just telling you not to base your understanding of d2 damage mechanics on Destiny 1 boss health.
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>>181094383
>I don't like bungie telling us how to play and making us all the same more or less.
Where do you feel they are doing this?
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>>181094067
>>181094383
With D2 in general it seems Bungie is stripping away a bit of customization for the sake of balance and viability. It just depends on which you value more.

I think it's a positive change because fucking nobody runs auto rifle fusion rifle sword or some retarded loadout like that. Although there are a lot of options technically, there are very few loadouts that are actually viable in Destiny PvE right now. You either have to use a sniper rifle, or an exotic heavy like Sleeper or Gjallarhorn if you want to be effective in anything but story missions and patrol. There's no reason to ever use an auto rifle or a sidearm in PvE.

Now, you can use any heavy you want without worry, since they're all in the same slot and presumably do around the same amount of damage but with different applications. And there is a reason to use a sidearm or an auto rifle in PvE, because those weapons compliment a scout rifle or a pulse rifle really well.

It may seem like there is less choice now, but the weapon slot changes actually give you way more viable options than before. Your heavy slot is essentially the only one you have to put thought into with regards for DPS, and you have two other slots that you can use whatever you want in.
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>>181094428
I'm sorry but enemies in Destiny and games like the Division literally are grindy.

>I'm just telling you not to base your understanding of d2 damage mechanics on Destiny 1 boss health.

My understanding is based more on what kind of game bungie is making. Destiny has been about grind and time gating shit. Based on the 1 month + game time i put into this I don't see Bungie changing this philosophy and making killing shit easier. i actually think the better judgement will be how long it takes you to complete strikes rather then just the bosses.
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>>181094743
It's almost like Destiny is an RPG...
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>>181094743
> Based on the 1 month + game time i put into this
opinion discarded
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>>181094692
See, I don't agree. The balance problems in PvE are entirely because Bungie is unwilling to adequately compensate most weapons for having short range. Unless this changes in D2, short range weapons will once again be garbage in PvE.
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>>181094605
Less customization options.

>>181094692
I don't think you have more weapon variety it's more like Bungie saying we changed the mechanics and now you are forced to rely on primaries more. I mean look, the exotic system forced you to make choices about 1 exotic type per weapon/armor which could be annoying if you wanted to try out some new weapons. Now it gets even words because so many weapon types are regulated to the heavy slot. Granted, I expect more exotic weapons that will go into other slots as a perk like we get in Destiny 1. Maybe those will be the most sought after who knows?

But you guys are right we will have to wait and see. I preordered. I just don't want this to become CoD where they want to make it casually friendly first.
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>>181094971
>It's almost like Destiny is an RPG...
how is destiny like an RPG?
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>>181094743

>I'm sorry but enemies in Destiny and games like the Division literally are grindy.

As someone who's currently sitting on world Tier 5 in Destiny with some item level 225 gear. I can tell you this is just straight up not correct. Destiny and Division are worlds apart in amount of grind, compared to the grind in Division, Destiny might as well be viewed as a game with 0 grind.

>My understanding is based more on what kind of game bungie is making. Destiny has been about grind and time gating shit. Based on the 1 month + game time i put into this I don't see Bungie changing this philosophy and making killing shit easier. i actually think the better judgement will be how long it takes you to complete strikes rather then just the bosses.

Anon I'm trying to have a decent argument with you, I really am. But you need to work with me here, if you just get defensive with me without considering what i'm saying, you're not having a discussion, you're having a fit. First you say your understanding is based more on what kind of game bungie is making yet you're clearly not taking D2 into account at all and purely citing D1 values. You busted out your 1+ month of playing this game as some kind of qualifier, does that mean that I, with my 3k hours (4 months) automatically trump all your statements since your implication that time played = understanding of how D2 will work? You say you don't see Bungie changing this philosophy and making shit easier to kill, but over the years they've actually nerfed boss healt and defenses quite a few times, Valus being a great example, if you weren't here pre-nerf you'll just have to look up a video. They've consistently enrforced their interest in reducing the grind by making it faster to kill bosses, collect items, and gain gear.
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NOOBISH WHERE'S THE RAID?!?!
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>>181095321
>Leveling mechanics.
>Randomised loot drops.
>Stat management.
>Skill Trees.
>Quest log.
>Story quests.
>Equipmnet side-quests.
>Fetch quests.
>Raids.
>Dungeons.
>Beating demon lords with giant glowing fire swords as a magical space wizard zombie.
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>>181096016

Noobish's not here, man.
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>>181095645
>As someone who's currently sitting on world Tier 5 in Destiny with some item level 225 gear.
I have not played the Division since they implemented this world modifier. Before that when I actually played yes it was pretty grindy and bad.

>if you just get defensive with me

How am I getting defensive? Explain? I just addressed your question without insults or anything. Please explain.

i busted my 1 month + to simply say I understand the type of game Bungie is making here and ultimately it is a game of grind and time gating content but now your grind has to be done with less variety of weapons equipped at a time. You thought running a strike 1000 times was bad well enjoy running it now with less weapon variety.
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>>181096142
I guess Far Cry 3 is an RPG then huh?
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>>181095321
In almost every way
>>181095191
>Less customization options.
Elaborate
>I mean look, the exotic system forced you to make choices about 1 exotic type per weapon/armor
Exotics are limited because stacking their effects can break the PVE and PVP respectively. They are unique, not just a different color of loot like Division crap.
>Now it gets even words because so many weapon types are regulated to the heavy slot
Worse*, but this is once again a balance for PVP and PVE metas where the entire playerbase was forced to use the same loadouts, you talk about limited customization, try only being allowed to use weapons you are not comfortable with because your fireteam leader says so or get kicked, in year 1 if you did not have a certain exotic weapon with maybe around a 5% chance to drop you would not be allowed to join your friends for end game.

Destiny 2 is a fresh start, the only people affected by the traditional two primary one heavy are shotgun and sniper crucible raid babbies.
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>>181096016
Noobish is ded. let it go
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>>181096363
Oh you're one of those retards who ask people to prove a negative then scream "gotcha".

Then go ahead, mister GOTCHA!, show me where in Far Cry 3 you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.

Because I added that line in there proactively just in case a retard like you showed up.
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>>181096016
every. fucking. thread. you post this
every. fucking. thread. you get no response.
Raid without him
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>>181096226
>How am I getting defensive? Explain?
You just ignored half my post, Asked me how you are getting defensive, then claimed to have addressed my questions, and doubled down on your 1 month of playtime qualifier.

Do I need to explain further how you're being defensive?

But look, maybe I'm reading too much into it, the conversation got sidetracked so lets get back to square one.

I'm just saying, don't make statements about how long its going to take to kill bosses in Destiny 2 based on how long it takes to kill bosses in Destiny 1. I think that's fair, don't you? Its a different sandbox, with a different weapon system, different balancing mechanics, in a game that's quite heavily focused on changing the formula.
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>>181096571
>Then go ahead, mister GOTCHA!, show me where in Far Cry 3 you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.

Sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD3ZxSpgGsA
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>>181096918
>Sure

>Not a demon lord but just a halucination.
>Not playing as a magical space wizard zombie but as a chad
>Not using a giant glowing fire sword but some shitty machete and a bow

Still waiting.
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>>181097176
So you are saying all RPGs, like Final Fantasy Games and Chrono Trigger and all those famous RPGs are not RPGs because they don't have

>you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.
?
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>>181097321
Shut the fuck up retard
>>181097176
Why the fuck did you add that exception in the first place
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>>181097321
So now that you've been proven wrong we're discussing Final Fantasy, not Destiny?

You asked how is Destiny an RPG, right? And I told you how, then you claimed Far Cry 3 is an RPG because of my list, a comparison you made might I remind you. And once I asked you to find a specific item on that list and you couldn't now we're discussing ALL rpgs?

Those are some impressive mental gymnastics but I'm still waiting on that video.
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>>181097587
>So now that you've been proven wrong we're discussing Final Fantasy, not Destiny?
I have not been proven wrong I am asking for clarity. I thought this gibberish

>you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.

meant general fantasy elements but now you are saying that specific scenario must be in the game to be a RPG so are Final Fantasy games and other famous RPGs that don't have that exact scenario you listed not RPGs? Please clarify.
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>>181097321
>>181097176
>>181096918
>>181096571
>>181096363
Christ this argument is fucking retarded
1) Farcry, and to an extent most modern games, are incorporating more and more elements native to DnD such as leveling, classes, skill trees, and quests. The lines between game genres aren't as clear cut as 2002.

2) Going by the phrase "role-playing game" every game is an RPG because you play the role of a specific character.

Fuck chill out
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>>181097568
>Why the fuck did you add that exception in the first place
Because I've been on on 4chan for 13 years, and I've literally seen over a million underage retards try the "So you're saying X = Y" argument when they latch on to a single shared trait because they lack the two braincells requred to come up with a coherent argument.

>>181097774
I'm still waiting.
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I FOUND LOVE.
I'M IN LOVE DESTINY GENERAL.
I DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS IT.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHJJJ
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>>181097850
I got this. I'm used to dealing with autism like this all the time. I volunteer at a school for special needs students.


>>181097896
and I need elaboration since you are outlying a specific scenario please address this

>>181097774
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>>181097321
>Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger are first person shooters.
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>>181098086
Exactly! Thats the clarification I am trying to get! His logic is nuts.
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>>181098073
>please address this
I'm still waiting on your task, I'll address all the posts you want me from here to /b/ when you show me where in Far Cry 3 you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.

As in the original post here >>181096571
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>>181098195
Are you seriously so retarded you're claiming FF and CC are FPS games just because some guy told you that an RPG is an RPG? Neck yourself dude, seriously.

I haven't seen logic this retarded since I made that STALKER mod back in my scaffolding days.
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>>181097850
>Going by the phrase "role-playing game" every game is an RPG because you play the role of a specific character.
your shit
>A key feature of the genre is that characters grow in power and abilities, and characters are typically designed by the player. Often these attributes increase each time a character gains a level, and a character's level goes up each time the player accumulates a certain amount of experience.[5]

>Role-playing video games also typically attempt to offer more complex and dynamic character interaction than what is found in other video game genres. This usually involves additional focus on the artificial intelligence and scripted behavior of computer-controlled non-player characters.[3][6]


So basically your retarded wordplay on role playing game versus the actual definition is what is going on, go fuck off to /v/
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>>181098259
>you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.
Can you clarify and state if this specific criteria makes an RPG and if yes does that mean Final Fantasy games aren't RPGs that lack this element you are bringing up. I will gladly answer you but i need this clarified.

>>181098421
I am not saying this he is.
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>>181098596


Anon, have you ever been to college? Because this is some admission level logical reasoning.


Not all RPGs are games that have you become a magical space wizard fighting demon gods with a giant fire sword. But all games that have you become a magical space wizard fighting demon gods with a giant fire sword are RPGs.

Its not rocket science. I can't believe I'm having to explain this to an adult old/competent enough to use the internet.
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>>181098596
>I am not saying this he is.
>literally had to resort mental gymnastics to get to this point.
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>>181098823
>But all games that have you become a magical space wizard fighting demon gods with a giant fire sword are RPGs.

Ok so Far Cry 3 has a drug induced battle where a high off his balls college chad fights a giant fire breathing Aztec demon with nothing but a bow and arrow so therefore every game where drug induced battle where a high off his balls college chad fights a giant fire breathing aztec demon with nothing but a bow and arrow is a RPG?

>>181099097
i am not though. That autist was.
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>>181099156
Good for you, now that you got my response and you didn't ask me again to clarify. I'm still waiting on .>>181096571
>show me where in Far Cry 3 you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.
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>>181099413
So based on your logic then Far Cry 3 is an rpg right because it features a high off his balls college chad fights a giant fire breathing Aztec demon with nothing but a bow and arrow? Correct?
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>>181099792
I'm still waiting. Its very simple, I gave you everything you wanted, I'm asking you to do just one simple thing, show me where in Far Cry 3 you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword.
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>>181099923
I want to answer you but I need clarity please answer

>>181099923
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>>181099954
You are right it is an RPG. You win. I apologize for my autism.
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>>181099954
Seee >>181100218
Now that that is covered, can you show us this clip where in Far Cry 3 you're a magical space wizard zombie beating demon lords with a giant glowing fire sword?
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>one autist who calls others scaffolding guy and makes shitty mod fixes for stalker
>one newfag who thinks anything past basic enemies is grindy and adding snipers to heavy slot is removing customization
>one who thinks farcry 3 is an rpg because another retard made a specific exception
DESTINY
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>>181095179
But range matters less because you'll have two primaries, one for long range and one for short range.
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>>181100332
The argument is pointless now you agree with me that Far Cry 3 is an RPG.
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>>181100394
>The argument is pointless now you agree with me that Far Cry 3 is an RPG.
Yeah that's fine, but where is the video?
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>>181100384
And never using the short range weapon because it isn't worth switching to isn't an improvement.
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>>181100519
There is no video your post of you agreeing with me thus voiding your argument is here

>>181100218
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hey folks I just flew in from /r9k/ and boy is my autism tired
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>>181095321
>how is destiny like an RPG?
>>181100394
>The argument is pointless now you agree with me that Far Cry 3 is an RPG.

But your question was how is Destiny an RPG?

>>181100680
>There is no video
This nigger actually spent an hour arguing FarCry 3 is an RPG because someone answered HIS OWN question asking how Destiny is an RPG.
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>>181100924
>this autist is actually backtracking his argument now that he got buttfucked
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>>181100647
It would be when you're engaging enemies at short range though.
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>>181101353
>how is Farcry 3 like an RPG

>Far Cry 3 has a drug induced battle where a high off his balls college chad fights a giant fire breathing Aztec demon with nothing but a bow and arrow
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So, how about that Destiny, guys. Anyone here still play it or are we having fun arguing with austimos?
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>>181100680
What did she mean by this?
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>>181101826
You have to see the post that was replied to for context.
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>>181102231
Okay, but you told me to look at a post I made, then linked to a post I didn't make, I'm getting conflicting messages here.
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>>181102573
Read the autistic post it is referring to.
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>>181102607
But its not mine and you specifically told me to read my post?
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>>181102682
The first post was, there is a (YOU) there.
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>>181102860
Yeah, I read that one, but that's just asking me for a video.

Then you respond there is none and there is no video and it doesn't matter because I made a statement, then linked to a wrong post because the statement in that post is not mine?

The problem with responding to yourself is that the (you) doesn't show up for other people you desperate fucking nigger. Your mother will die in her sleep tonight if you don't leave this thread right now and never come back.
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>>181103113
No I linked to the post you made where you agreed with me. Why is this hard?
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>>181103663
>>181103498
>>181103329
>>181103148
shut the fuck up this isn't what this thread is about now.
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>>181103304
But the post you quoted wasn't mine? I clearly showed you proof. Do you not accept proof in that emotionally charged world you live in?

Its funny I know you're not trolling but I still keep holding on to a spark of hope that you'll say it was all a joke and you're not actually this fucking retarded but I guess when you're born of inbred niggers this is the smartest you'll ever get so itsn ot your fault, just your bitch ass genetically broken family.

Enjoy this last (You) I hope you die of cancer you motherfucking kike.
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>>181103871
Here as a follow up you agreed with that post. Made it or not you agreed with it.

>>181100332

You f'd up Goyim.
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>destiny service maintenance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=69&v=vh3tuL_DVsE
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That was a fucking great series of missions. I thought Dark Below was really fun too but House of Wolves kicked it's ass, especially with that music.
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>>181109451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJJc2VFSic
what is your platform/gt?
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>>181109451
stop trying to save this dead general retard
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>>181109718
PS4 and the name is in that screenshot I just posted.
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>>181109839
I sent you a friend request, if you would like to play or need help feel free to message me.
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>>181110780
Actually if you don't mind helping me with a strike real quick, that'd be nice. Game is dead so I'm not getting matched with anyone.
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>>181110780
thanks
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>>181113051
Glad to, message me anytime
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>>181103663
>warmind armor when
>not counting SIVA stuff
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>>181118749
one of the expansions in d2 is warmind themed, so maybe soon
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>>181118924
I hope.
>tfw guardians are seen wearing bits and pieces of Rasputins buddies
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Flawless raid run?
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>3 different PvP modes

Truly Crucible has been saved, thank you Bungie
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>>181125423
Clash, control and countdown?
I haven't been keeping up with the news.
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>>181125423
>the raid
>1 raid
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>>181126398
how is 1 raid a bad thing or surprising
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>>181118924
>one of the expansions in d2 is warmind themed,

/maybe/

As I repeatedly keep having to tell people. Its a Seven Seraphs logo. Its not a rasputin mark, its not a warmind mark, its literally a mark they plastered on all their property, bunkers used for warminds just being one of them. The expansion may be about warminds, but don't get disappointed if its not just because you 100% super decided it will be warminds based just on a logo.
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>>181126587
They said content more often.
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>>181125423
>3
Its five.

>>181127179
>They said content more often.

Do I really have to explain to you how content more often and 1 raid at launch are not mutually exclusive?
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>>181127179
So?
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>>181127179
>Ree they're only giving us 1 raid but they said content more often.

But aren't they also giving us 4 new planets, new NPCs, new lore, new activity types, new weekly modes, new crucible modes, new clan mechanics, new strikes, new story, new missions, new weapon system, new weapons, new exotics, new sub-classes, new sub-class mechanics, new vanity items like ships, sparrows, shaders, and emblems, new endgame matchmaking system, etc?

You're acting like they're adding 1 raid to destiny 1.

>First autismo screaming "Scaffolding guy" at everyone.
>Then the moron adding "I did a salker mod so I know" to everything.
>Then the imbecile screaming "But what is the clarification on Far Cry 3" all over the place.
>Now the jackass sperging about "Destiny 2 is literally only 1 raid they said content more often".

When will it end?
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>>181127281
>>181127561
>>181127886
hajahajahaja I was merely pretending
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>>181127935
Care to clarify on that, Far Cry 3 guy?

You can't fool me, I did a STALKER mod back in my scaffolding days.
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Did you know there are 4 Dragonheart movies?

Yeah, there was a sequel back in 2000. Then 2 prequels after that, the more recent one happend about 50 years before the original Dragonheart and just came out this year.

It wasn't too bad, it had actors I never saw but seemed familiar, maybe they were extras in Game of Thrones or something.
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>>181126587
Can't wait for another 6 man extended strike in DLC 1
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>>181128437
Fuck off dipshit we're talking about dragonheart not about your bitch ass third world tier trolling.
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>>181128752
t. ryukokoro
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>>181103704
>destiny concept art isn't relevant
>muh butthurt arguing is
Go to hell
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>>181129587
How can I go to where I already am?
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>>181129587
I think it was a joke, anon.
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grinding clash for weekly if anyone wants in
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>>181127281
So its clash, countdown, control, elimination and maybe supremacy?
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>>181130520
How long will you be about for?
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>>181130629
Lockdown? Why do all you niggers forget lockdown? They literally won't shut the fuck up about it? For fuck's sake I don't even play crucible and I remember that shit.
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>>181130932
I thought it was called countdown
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>>181130710
couple hours probs, not doing much today
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>>181130973
The new ranked-exclusive mode.
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will pc destiny have push-to-talk? *neuron rumbling gesture*
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>>181131234
>**
kys
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>>181132690
are you a ::double colon guy::?
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so what's happened to alpha team? I was expecting them to play this game right until destiny 2 release
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>>181135838
they showed up at some event and played a couple rounds of 2, otherwise they're too busy doing a lemon party to play. if they do they probably are on private smurfs.
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I'm meeting pic related's voice actor tomorrow
What should I ask him?
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>>181140646
Ask him to record lewd noises in Variks' voice
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>>181140646
Ask him to sing Star Spangled Banner in Variks' voice
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>>181140646
Ask him to slip some poison into your drink.
If he doesn't, he's an alright dude.
If he does, ask him to record a bunch of vocal recordings of him saying inane shit as variks cause obviously he'll just do whatever if you ask.
Or just ask him if he'd be willing to record some of variks linws but in one of the 8 billion other voices he's done.
Also wasn't aware that banshee was voiced by John dimaggio.
Thats kinda neat.
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>>181140646
Where are you meeting him?
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>>181140646
Print this out and ask him to sign it
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>>181144661
whys she only got one titty
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>>181127145
This is the Seven Seraphs logo, Rasputin in both grimoire and game is identified by the winding 'V' shaped symbol.
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>>181149674
And either way, the Seraphs do have connections to the Warminds.
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>>181149850
>rasputin is choking out the other warminds to keep control
>rasputin locked out the 6 other seraphs when he "realized" his plan to disable the traveler, "knowing" it was the only way and the other warminds wouldn't let him do it
>have to kill him to allow the others to wake up
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I WANT TO SEE YELLOWTEACUP GET BLACKED!
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friendly reminder that if you have access to the early beta, log onto the servers before the public beta is released so you won't be placed into a queue
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>>181144661
>not the fat ass variks pic
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>>181152584
but that picture was featured on Bungies website.
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>>181150520
how retarded are you?
Bungie will release a patch or update the game world which means by default you will be forced to log back in at the same time everyone else does.
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>>181140646
ask him how much he cried while voicing the Fives arc

;_;
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RIP thread
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I never really tried to get grimoire in the year that I played. I have 4110. Is there anything easy to get solo that I might have missed?
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>>181160638
Everything outside of raids
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>>181160638
dead ghosts, they added some around the tower and in the crucible maps
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>>181160638
https://destinyghosthunter.net/
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>>181160638

Like >>181160765 said, dead Ghosts are a super easy way to get a ton of Grimoire. Make sure you have all of the easy-to-get story ones as well.
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>>181160816
>all of the ones I don't have in the tower have placeholders and no guide
This will be fun.
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>>181160963
google/youtube are your friends.
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>>181160963

Also don't forget the easy Calcified Fragments and Dormant SIVA Clusters.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46013/7_This-Week-At-Bungie---06292017
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>>181140646
Ask him how you dismantle a boipucci
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>>181165650
TL;DR
>after July 25th clan admins will have to manually convert their group into a Destiny 2 clan
>doing this will break any Alliances you have with other clans
>the period for conversion is one month, after that people will be able to create new D2 clans
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>>181167854

TL;DR 2

>no, you can't get your oldfag emblem shit on PC or cross-platform, stop asking
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>>181165650
>The date really is character creation date and not date of starting the game.

Well that's a massive fuck you to people that deleted characters, or it would be if the date had any meaning. If there's no way to disable it I'll just delete all three and start fresh ones so all 3 can be on the same date so its a bit cleaner on the ui.
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>>181165650
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>>181170132
I love the fact that the Titan will completely cover the Hunter if he stands in front of him.
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>>181170132
>Warcraft shoulders out in full force
lel
>Scarfs for warlocks
Noice
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>>181171038
looking forward to my warlock looking like vash the stampede again
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>>181171038
>Warcraft

Here we go again.
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>>181171509
>he doesn't remember project titan
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>>181165650

RIP dames
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wow, is destiny tracker busted or is everyone fucking awful
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>Reading this thread.
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I just got No land beyond, is it good or just take the shard?
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>>181174538
>he doesn't know
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>>181174538
Do your shots land where you aim?
No, land beyond.
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>>181174538
if you have the weapon skin for it, it's great
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>>181174931
Yes, my lack of knowledge is why I ask

>>181175185
kek

>>181175323
And I do, kind of feel like I need a matching armor set for it
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>>181175185
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I just redeemed my code for the BETA early access (PS4), AMA!!!!1!.
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>>181176197
What's your middle name?
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>>181176197
the actual PSN code or the pre-order bungo code?
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>>181175709
>my lack of knowledge is why I ask
sorry champ. NLB is okay and fun to dink around with, and maybe 'competitive' if you want to get sweaty in Trials
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grinding crucible if anyone's playing. down for whatever.
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>>181176197
>I just redeemed my code for the BETA early access (PS4)
Except no you didn't. The platform selection doesn't' start until week after next.
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>>181176601
Yeah, I just took it to the plaguelands, holy hell this fucking scope tho also bolt action
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>>181169956
Everyone already fucking knew that. Only absolute retards thought otherwise
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>>181177082
How about you focus that impotent nu-male rage somewhere else cockbreath?
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I don't know how they are going to top this in Destiny 2.
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>>181177376
Bungie's skyboxes have always been top percentage. They only get better with time. I remember when I thought Forge World's skybox couldn't be topped
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>>181177376
With relative ease, I'd say.
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>>181177663
True. Every planet's skybox is better than the last. This game is beautiful.

>>181177771
EDZ is gonna be so great.
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>>181177938
Its all gonna be great but the wait is fucking killing me, still two full months... and PC shitters get theirs later but who's counting eh?
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I think sometime in the next couple days I'm gonna go around grabbing some skybox footage for some nice clean webms
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>>181180128
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>>181180224
>>181180128
Its really fucking frustrating how much environment they made versus how little of it is playable.
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>>181180402
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>>181180548
They're all pretty, but when you compare it to newer releases and D2 screenshots, you really see how much D1 struggled with being held back with a last-gen engine.
its really amazing it looks as good as it does.
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>>181180791

Halo: Reach was pretty amazing looking back in 2010 when you realize it was basically working on a modified engine from 9 years and a console prior. Same with Destiny, as it was using a heavily-modified Reach engine.
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>>181180978
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>>181171038
>Warcraft Shoulders
he can see over his shoulders if he turns his head, it's not quite WoW hueg
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>>181178768
The wait's sucking so much I decided to jump back into FFXV just for a timesink
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Pro tip, change your settings to save them as png for a much better image.
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>>181180402
I think they're starting to get better at it if RoI was any indication. A lot of the major landmarks in the Plaguelands are all playable spaces, just confined to the raid
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>>181181463
The witcher 3 has been my go to time sink, combat is wonky but damn it's doing the job I needed it to do so well and I'm not even close to the dlc yet.
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>>181181502
Its set to ping, I was saving them as JPG after fixing the color balance, this was from before you could turn off the UI, all of them were taken by opening the main menu then clossing it and hitting the screenshot button before the UI pops back up which left the images very pale.
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Color balance still looks pretty fucked up, just go take some new ones.
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>>181181625
The DLC is even better than the main game. HoS is a blast to go through, and I can't wait to start BaW after my next paycheck.

Avoid the scavenger hunts and hide their icons from the map, except for whatever Witcher School you want. The gear you get from sidequests is perfectly suitable for beating the game
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>>181181832
Dude fuck off. You gave advice nobody asked for and now you're mouthing off, if you got better shit post it, if it bother you don't look at it, stop being such a self-absorbed sack of shit for no fucking reason.
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>>181182084
Can vouch for this, the TW3 expansions are fantastic. And the game is already over 100 hours long if you do every quest, so don't even try to do all the little question mark monster nests and stuff. That's just filler.
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>>181181502

>Can't turn off UI
>Telling others how to screenshot
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>>181182208
'Tism
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>>181182208
Your screenshots look like ass, deal with it dude.
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>>181182414
It seriously is, I don't know what his fucking problem is, not like he's posting anything better.

>>181182484
I never said they're good, I just don't understand what you get by being such a crying little bitch with your "90% of the screen is a gun and UI" screenshots, not like your garbage looks better so you don't really have any high ground to take.
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I preordered the game on ps4. Will i get to preload the beta? My internet is shit...
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>>181182484
At least he's posting destiny, Jiro.
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>>181182781

Probably not, but you'll get into the beta before everyone else, so you'll have plenty of time.
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>>181182781
Ssssh Esteban
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>>181182942
There was no preload for the beta in D1?
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>>181183191

I honestly don't remember.
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>>181182781
Yes.

>>181182942
Why the fuck would you say probably not? Sony as a policy makes preload available for all betas and games.
Destiny Alpha, Beta, and Vanilla all had preload, Taken King had Preload. Why would you think Destiny 2 would be the first game on PSN to break Sony policy and not have a preload?
>>181183191
There was. Everything on PSN except for DLC under 100 MB has preload.
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>>181183294
Thanks
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btw is there a place to dump a bunch of webms as to not spam the thread as I'm making them?
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>>181185272
Post them
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>>181185272
/wsg/ should have a thread or two for this. Or a.pomf
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>>181185512
I don't have them yet, I'm gonna go do my normal stream and when I'm done gonna gather skybox footage for webms
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>>181185708
Sweet, but please post them here, it will keep the thread alive longer.
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>>181185550
I seem to be out of the loop, aside from the obvious meme wtf is a.pomf?
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>>181186220
Pomf is dead, everyone uses mixtape now.
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>>181186220
I don't know but people post webm here via that site
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http://mashable.com/2017/06/29/destiny-2-loot-grind/#lnzuXh_VYgqd

No more RNG rolls, at all
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>>181187303
Yeah, they said it like a week ago.
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>>181187303
laaaaaaaame
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>>181187303
Still makes me sad that perks are no longer random. Does make it a bit better for me since I have shit luck for stat rolls and no patience to keep trying for more
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>>181187303
>"How can my second, third, and tenth Better Devils hand cannon be interesting? That's a question we should be asking and answering as quickly as we can," Smith said.

>doesn't answer
FUCKING REEE
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>>181188035
Because he doesn't have the answer?

>"We have ideas. While I would like nothing more than to share those ideas with you, we're up against [a deadline]. I don't know if they'll make it for our Sept. 6 [release] date. But we have some ideas that we're pretty excited about."

Contextual reading is a basic skill, why are you so bad at it? He's clearly saying they need to focus down on how to address the issue and haven't fully decided yet, how is this hard to understand? English is my second language and even I don't have trouble comprehending what was said.
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>>181187865
But supposedly there are more weapons and armors than we have in D1 at the moment, if that's true there's nothing wrong with that, since 99% of all rolls were garbage.

With this and the way skill selection is now set up, its very clearly they're trying to cut the fat and make sure you spend as little time fumbling around shit skills using shit rolls trying to do shit content.
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>>181188371
Fuck you nigger I want to know what they are going to do.
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>>181188596
And you will? When they figure it out?
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>>181167854
that settles it then, I'm going to keep my old warlock instead of deleting it for the new one, and I'm going to make a new titan in that slot
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>>181191654
The fuck does that have to do with clans?
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>>181191843
meant to quote >>181169956
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Lore not accessible outside of game
Armor stats removed (greatly reducing diversity)
Subclass skill trees simplified
No dedicated servers
Only two subclasses per class (Unconfirmed, but pretty likely at this point)
No private matches
No free for all
In-game LFG disabled for endgame content
No more random perks on guns (greatly reducing diversity)
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>>181192537
(you)
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>>181192537
awesome, now how much of that shit is actually confirmed?
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>>181192537
>D1: REEEE WHY IS LORE OUTSIDE OF THE GAME!?
>D2: Reeee why is Lore not accessible outside of game
>D1: REEEE THE ARMOR STAT DOES NOTHING!!!!
>D2: Reeee Armor stats removed (greatly reducing diversity)
>D1: REEEE MOST SKILL TREE OPTIONS ARE USELESS AND UNUSABLE
>D2: Reeee Subclass skill trees simplified
>D1: REEEE WHY NO DEDICATED SERVERS!!
>D2: Reeee No dedicated servers even though they're literally dedicated servers and bungie just refuses to call them that
>D1: REEEE ONLY ONE SUBCLASS IS USEFUL!!!!
>D2: Reeee Only two subclasses per class even though its Unconfirmed, and bungie heavily hinted that there's more than three subclasses this time around.
>D1: REEEE PRIVATE MATCHES SUCK
>D2: Reeee No private matches even though they literally said they're coming shortly after launch
>D1: REEEE FREE FOR ALL IS GARBAGE MODE
>D2: Reeee No free for all even though they literally didn't say no free for all
>D1: REEEE WHY IS THERE NO LFG FOR ENDGAME CONTENT
>D2: Reeee In-game LFG disabled for endgame content even though its literally for endgame content
>D1: REEEE ONLY ONE ROLL IS GOOD ALL OTHERS ARE SHARD TIER GARBAGE REEEEE
>S2: Reeee No more random perks on guns which greatly reducing diversity even though there are way more weapons this time around

You faggots will cry about anything.
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>>181193126

>he doesn't know
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>Lore not accessible outside of game
Lore should be present in the game in the first place, not outside of it
>Armor stats removed (greatly reducing diversity)
This kinda sucks
>Subclass skill trees simplified
Better or worse, yet to be seen
>No dedicated servers
Inexcusable in this day and age
>Only two subclasses per class (Unconfirmed, but pretty likely at this point)
D1 also had 2 Sub-classes at launch, they'll do a TTK at some point
>No private matches
Retarded, they already added them for D1, but that didn't have them at launch
>No free for all
It's a all 4v4 now anon
>In-game LFG disabled for endgame content
How is this a bad thing? handholding will never get the shitters to get better
No more random perks on guns (greatly reducing diversity)
Most likely gone to make sure some bullshit like Efrideet's doesn't happen again

It's not that bad, but they are doing a lot of dumb shit
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>>181193214
no I don't know now are you gonna be like an SJW and tell me to educate myself or are you going to tell me?
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>" we want more diversity "

Reducing the skill tree, with flat cooldowns for abilities and supers, and now static perks on weapons TOP KEK
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Just decided to get back into destiny. Only have the taken king, light level 307. What do i do?
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>>181193126
>Lore not accessible outside of game
Confirmed, lore is in-game now, but not D1, D2 has way more lore, its literally just moced from site to game.
>Armor stats removed (greatly reducing diversity)
Confirmed but armor stat did fuck all, instead we get all D1 codec stats as armor perks so diversity is actually improved not reduced.
>Subclass skill trees simplified
Confirmed, however its super modifiers and we don't know about exotic armor at this time, there's no telling how the system overall will work out, retard is making a simple statement which implies knowledge greater than vertical slice we've been shown.
>No dedicated servers
Semi-true. Bungie is using dedicated servers, but there's still peer to peer under the surface so they're refusing to call it dedicated servers, can't tell how much impact it will have but they claim its much better performance than you could ever imagine with D1.
>Only two subclasses per class (Unconfirmed, but pretty likely at this point)
Unconfirmed and very unlikely because they've actually hinted that there are multiple new sub-classes they havent revealed.
>No private matches
Untrue, they won't be here at launch but they already confirmed it will be added shortly after. Basically they want people able to build up their ranked mode levels before they let them just fuck around on their own.
>No free for all
All modes 4v4 now. That being said they said they're looking into new modes so its not off the table completely, just not at launch.
>In-game LFG disabled for endgame content
Technically true but this is trange context, there was never LFG for endgame so to say its been disabled is just a strange way of saying it, on top of which there are guided games and shit so technically there is a form of LFG for endgame.
>No more random perks on guns (greatly reducing diversity)
All gear is hand built now, but there's a lot more of it so while technically true, the part about reduced diversity is just a straight up lie.
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>>181194035
>We want diversity, here's a hundred different hand-crafted weapons.

>REEEEE THEY KILLED DIVERSITY BECAUSE I CAN'T GET THE SAME GUN IN 99 DIFFERENT GARBAGE ROLLS REEEEEE.

Why are you people such drama queens?
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>>181193206>>181192537

Lore should be accessible inside and outside the game
Don't care
Don't care
Literally do not give a fuck. Poor little pcuck
Par for the course. People expecting A game+DLC worth of content at launch are delusional
Shame, but as long as they're back soon, who cares. I won't get bored of shit quick enough to default to private matches 99.99% of the time.
Who cares. Rumble was fun, but not necessary.
Thank fuck.
That sucks because having special rolled weapons for PvE and some PvP was actually pretty cool and interesting. A true shame, but hopefully the actual guns themselves make up for the loss.
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>>181194051
Talk to Variks
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>>181194307
>Lore should be accessible inside and outside the game
And it will be? You can get it in-game and you can get it on the wiki. Stop being such a fucking retard.
>That sucks because having special rolled weapons for PvE and some PvP was actually pretty cool and interesting. A true shame, but hopefully the actual guns themselves make up for the loss.
But you'll still have special rolled weapons for PvE and PvP, they're all hand made, doesn't mean they're all hand-made for PvE, in fact he literally referenced a PvP handcan in the interview what the shit?
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>>181194108
>All gear is hand built now, but there's a lot more of it so while technically true, the part about reduced diversity is just a straight up lie.

>implying everyone won't try to get the one god-roll weapon in each class for PvE or PvP.
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>>181103663
>in-game will never look as good as this Concept Art
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>>181194623
>>implying everyone won't try to get the one god-roll weapon in each class for PvE or PvP.

>god-roll

But there are literally no Rolls you fucking moron?
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>>181194623
So like in D1?
And don't even try to give me that "you could get different weapons" bullshit when you know every class had one OP weapon that everyone tried to get a god roll on. random rolls did nothing to change up weapons being used because of all weapons with the same roll one was always kind and everyone played that one.
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>>181194547
>the wiki
is cancer. Grimoire tab is where it should be.

We don't know what perks guns will have.Besides, what if the gun type is shit but its the only way to get a perk you need? See the issue?
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>>181195062
>is cancer. Grimoire tab is where it should be.
Now you're just being pedantic.

You know at the end of the day nobody is forcing you to do shit, if its offending your sensibilites so much you can do us all a favor and fuck off to Anthem or whatever the fuck else you want to play. But its pretty fucking annoying when you faggots come here and bitch about the same non-issues 24/7 when you can't make a single counter-argument that isn't 99% memes.

I'm serious, who the fuck are you crying for? You're acting fucking retarded and nobody will do a fucking thing to accomodate you. At a certain point you have to learn to grow up and learn that your dimwitted reasoning does not equal reality.

Fuck, its like I'm talking to special needs children.
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>>181192537
>lore is finally in the actual game
>no more T12 autism or shitty 65% armor rolls
>no more useless subclass perks
>no more trash guns dropping every 5 seconds

I don't see any problems here
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>>181188371
Are you the same fag who went non-linear about the Grimoire the other day?
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>trash guns
Thank god, and if they make Legendary weapons relatively rare its going to make finding them much more rewarding.
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>>181195062
>Besides, what if the gun type is shit but its the only way to get a perk you need? See the issue?

I know this will sound like a meme but its not I'm actually wondering, are you the guy that made STALKER mod? And I'll explain why I'm asking, you're using the same reasoning as him now. This hypothetical scenario of yours is based on D1 not on D2. If the weapons are constructed by hand, that would mean that every weapon has deliberately placed perks, that means there's no such thing as "perk you need" you see? They always come in the same set on the same weapon. As for your "gun type is shit" argument, they've went over this a dozen times by now, the reason its all individualised is so it can be balanced on the fly, daily, weekly, not bi-anually. If a specific gun is shit, it would be buffed. There's no such thing as "gun type" any more there are no archetypes, presumably each category would have its own set of perks, so handguns would have handgun perks, etc... so the "perk you needed to get" on a type would only be possible on that type.

I don't know how to make this simpler, the issue you're proposing, I don't understand what knowledge you're basing it on, in D1 different weapon categories had exclusive perks, Crowd Control was never on pulse rifles, you're not crying that its reducing diversity in D1 so why is it a problem in D2? Adversely, Hand Canons get stability perks which are useless, now, again presumably that won't be the case in D2, which means you just cut down on garbage rolls, not on versatility.

And lastly, nobody wants to accomodate min-maxing garbage because they ruin the fun for everyone, at the end of the day most people don't give a fuck if the gun is optimal or not if it feels good to fire and it looks "cool". Get with the program or move on, you're stressing too much over shit you know nothing about, we can have this discussion properly when D2 comes out and shit comes out, but now you're just crying over your scary feels.
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>>181196271
And on top of that, there are crap ton of new activities like treasure maps, adventures, time limited weekly public events, lost sectors, etc... and they all supposedly have their own individualized loot, so finally that promise of your gear telling a story about your journey will be true, because you'll be able to look at someone and be like "oh shit, he's got that fucking rare Nessus Lost Sector handcan". You know, that promise that we heard in D1, just like half the other shit we're getting in D2. Fucking only Bungie can take 3 years to Make a game they promised three years after it was released.
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>>181195418
>no more T12 autism or shitty 65% armor rolls
We don't know enough about the armor system to be sure of that.
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So are there any Exotics you guys could see making the jump to 2? I would put money on seeing at least a few weapons and armors get successors, if not direct carry-overs, for the game.
>Guns
Frontrunners would easily be both Thorn and Gjallarhorn. The weapons are too iconic to just leave behind, and there are active factions that know how to reproduce the weapons.
>Armor
For Hunters, I would bet on a helmet of some kind, likely the Celestial Nighthawk (Sixshooter makes Symbiote redundant), orthe Bones of Eao. Titans would almost definitely get their Armamentarium back, and maybe one of their Striker Exotics. Warlocks... I dunno. Kind of hard to pin down an iconic generic Exotic that they could bring back, especially since they haven't shown how Voidwalker or Stormcaller will function yet.
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>>181197007
>We don't know enough about the armor system to be sure of that.
Int/recovery/disc are gone and all the skills are on set timers.

We know that, and that's enough to know Tier anything is gone.

>>181197143
Nothing is making a jump to D2. Not even emblems and shaders.
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>>181194878
he means just a godly weapon, and he has a point
but it's the same shit
they'll tweak the perks on weapons that need them and stop dropping weapons that are OP, maybe even remove weapons (hopefully not)
does anyone have a source on the "no more rolls" claim BTW?
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>>181197143
Bringing back D1 weapons would ruin the point of using new ones, especially the PVE and PVP crutches like Thorn and Gjallahorn.
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>>181197290
>We know that, and that's enough to know Tier anything is gone.
Armor/Recovery/Agility are taking their place and may have the same randomness of Intellect/Discipline/Strength.
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>>181197143
Obsidian Mind would be nice
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>>181197441
>Armor/Recovery/Agility are taking their place and may have the same randomness of Intellect/Discipline/Strength.

But they do not affect cooldowns, which is the only purpose int/disc/str had. T12 was literally just shorthand for the best possible cooldown you could have on a character. So when he said no more T12 autism, he's right. There is no more cooldown reduction.
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>>181197143
for Hunters, I'd like to see Radiant Dance Machines have a bit more functionality
fuck I'll just say it, I want them to power up by dancing
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>>181197143
None, I don't want three more years of thorn shitters and "must have gally"
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>>181197895
As long as there are viable alternatives to Gjallarhorn, that will likely never happen again. And thorn is far from top tier in PvP right now.
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>>181197662
>Hunters have to run away every few minutes in a Nightfall and dance to recharge
I don't know if I would laugh or be furious.
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>>181197601
>implying people won't be autistic about T12 armor/recovery/agility
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>>181198175
>As long as there are viable alternatives to Gjallarhorn, that will likely never happen again. A
Doesn't matter its dead let it die. Just take it as a new game, stop wishing for old shit to carry over when you didn't even get to use the new shit.
>and thorn is far from top tier in PvP right now.

Well I did say shitters.
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>>181198402
I can't tell if you're missing the point or genuinely have the comprehension of a kindergartner.
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>>181198589
You're the one missing the point. The point isn't cooldown reduction, the point is random values of stats on gear resulting in shitty drops and people chasing bonus stat thresholds resulting from high rolls.
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Alright I'm about to start grabbing skybox footage, any specific shots/locations you guys want to have?
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>>181193206
>>181193308
This
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>>181202372
Just surprise us. Anything is fine, as long as it looks good
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>>181202372
Nobody cares
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>>181199232
Oh you're the autistic Far Cry 3 shitposter. Cool.
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If there are more weapons then the removal of random perks can be counteracted by simply including more weapons to a particular drop table for an enemy or reward chest. Then the farm & grind will not be about acquiring the godroll of a particular weapon but to find the exact item(s) that you want.

Only thing I can see going wrong is that this might result in a lot of clear variants of the same weapon. Auto Rifle 1A with such and such perks, Auto Rifle 1B which is visually quite similar but has different perks, and so on.
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>>181206970
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person.

Additionally:
>no more T12 autism or shitty 65% armor rolls
>65% armor rolls
Clearly only about cooldown reduction, not about stat ranges at all.
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>>181207183
Yeah we simply don't know enough.

For me, my biggest issue with the loot system in Destiny 1 is the sheer amount of sharding you have to do. So much loot is trash it's ridiculous. If they are moving to a system where loot drops infrequently, but is always consistent, I'm going to be very happy.
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Nothing will ever excuse the bastardization of titan armor in D2
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>>181207402
I generally wish that loot-based games didn't have such extreme disparities between the color grades. Going up the tiers should be more a case of adding gimmicks or useful attachments to the weapons rather than White items always being useless clutter after the first hour of any game.
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>>181207736
That helmet is fucking cool.
Fight me.
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>>181208550
It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to spend a ridiculous amount of time cleaning up all the low level drops.
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>>181208817
Nobody's gonna be look at the helmet, bro.
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>>181207324
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person.
You really are a fucking moron, but I'll give you points for sticking to the literally same argument every faggot in this thread uses.

Oh so I'm the guy that thinks everyone is the same person, while accusing me of being the same person?

I'm done, re-read the conversation or don't. You're arguing a point nobody is arguing against you fucking nigger, you missed the point completely, the end, I know what I said and I know if you misunderstood or not. End of fucking story, its not up to you what I mean when I say shit you fucking Farcy faggot.
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>tfw KF gives about 400 grimoire
>tfw never done it
>tfw about 400 shy of 5000
Can classic KF be done solo?
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https://my.mixtape.moe/qorkvt.mp4

;_;
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>>181216981
No. You'll need at least a semi-competent group with high-impact snipers, and Touch of Malice.
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CUTE
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>>181221873
SIMPLY
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>>181216981
Are you sure you've gotten everything else? Mines 5400ish and I've only done KF like twice.
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The grimoire emblem should be for 5500, reeeeeeeeee
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>>181222976
It should have been max
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>>181223003
Nah, even as someone who achieved max, it was a pain to grind 70 doubles wins.
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>>181223070
I'm so close to getting doubles wins. it's the only thing left to earn.
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>>181223218
It was my last thing too, and the only thing I had to actually grind out. Everything else was achieved naturally over the course of over 2000 hours just playing the game. I really don't blame anyone for not getting max though, I think they should just reward high grimoire, but 5000 isn't that much. Oh well, I suppose still only a tiny fraction of players played enough to get 5k.
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Tell me a story dg
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>>181223674
I don't have time to explain
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>>181223674
Once upon a time there was a boy called Anon. He was so goddamn depressed all the fucking time that he shitposted in dead generals at 4am. Eventually he curled up into a ball and just stayed like that until he starved to death. The end.
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>>181223674
Nine guns trained on him. Nine cold hearts awaiting the order. Magistrate Loken, standing behind them, looked pleased with himself. Jaren Ward stood in silence. His Ghost peeked out over his shoulder.

Loken took in the crowd before stepping forward, as if to claim the ground - his ground. "You question me?" There was venom in his words. "This is not your home."

I remember Loken's gestures here. Making a show of it all. Everyone else was still. Quiet.

I tugged at my father's sleeve, but he just tightened his grip on my shoulder to the point pain. His way of letting me know that this was not the time.

I'd watched Jaren's every move over the past months, mapping his effortless gestures and slight, earned mannerisms. I'd never seen anything like him. He was something I couldn't comprehend, and yet I felt I understood all I needed the moment I'd seen him. He was more than us. Not better. Not superior. Just more.

I wanted father to stop what was happening. Looking back now, I realize that he didn't want to stop it. No one did.

As Loken belittled Jaren Ward, taunted him, enumerated his crimes and sins, my eyes were stuck on Jaren's pistol, fixed to his hip. His steady hand resting calmly on his belt.

I remembered the pistol's weight. Effortless. And my concern faded. I understood.

"This is our town! My town!" Loken was shouting now. He was going to make a show of Jaren - teach the people of Palamon a lesson in obedience.

Jaren spoke: clear, calm. "Not anymore."

Loken laughed dismissively. He had nine guns on his side. "Those gonna be your last words then, boy?"

The movement was a flash: quick as chain lightning. Jaren Ward spoke as he moved. "Yours. Not mine."

Smoke trailed from Jaren's revolver.

Loken hit the ground. A dark hole in his forehead. Eyes staring into eternity.

Jaren stared down the nine guns trained on him. One by one, they lowered their aim. And the rest of my life began - where, in a few short years, so many others would be ended.
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>>181225505
Too fucking good
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>>181223330
Over 5000 here with only hunters and minimal PvP play
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So I preordered D2 from FUCKING GAMESTOP online. About how long do I have to wait before they email me my beta code?
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>>181229925
How many hours logged tho
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>>181225505
WHRRRIRIRZZZZZT

"You probably are wondering right now how I got here, but there's no time to explain why there's no time to explain."
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>>181211928
God damn that looks good
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>>181223070
Doubles is fun. Duck salvage and rumble though.
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>All you had to do was follow the damn relic holder CJ!

Jesus Christ this strike is painful.
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>>181218246
That sucks.

>>181222914
I've gotten almost all of the ghosts, have all of the siva nodes, almost every exotic weapon, and about 35 calcified fragments.
Problem is, like ten are in the raid each worth about 15, and then every enemy with a name in the raid is worth another 15 or so.
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How do some people do this weird thing where they slide, jump, crouch backwards and slide again while shooting and aiming? I mean, they have to be using some kind of special controller or mouse and keyboard in order to do those actions for fast while still aiming?
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>all weapons have set perks (aka grind your eyes out until the 5 good guns drop for you) as opposed to grinding for well rolled guns of a certain archetype. all because Bungie is too lazy to balance
>incredibly streamlined classes with a total of 2 (two) spec options per subclass. all because Bungie is too lazy to balance. some classes even have melee specs which will undoubtedly be shit, leaving you with 1 (ONE) spec option for an entire subclass
>1 (ONE) raid at launch. they don't even have death penalties anymore in raids because its too hard.
>no Marty so the music will continue to be shit
>no FFA in PvP
>only 2 competitive modes in PvP and theres still no ranking system
>no custom games at launch

wow i didn't think they could make a worse game than Destiny 1 but they sure at trying hard.
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>>181243163
>all weapons have set perks

are you fucking kidding me
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>>181194245
they can have a million weapons but if people only ever use 5 then they have the exact same problem they have right now.
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>>181245525
Alternatively you have a million weapons which are quite similar to each other in performance and thus your choice is personal preference in a few minor things and aesthetics. The downside of course is that there is then that the distinctions become superficial and there is less incentive to hunt down strong weapons.

Whatever they do they better do it right because this is the main driving force behind the core gameplay loop of a loot hunting game.
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>>181245525
>>181245874
>tfw armor has the opposite problem
>warlocks pretty much only have one non-exotic chestpiece at the end of the game
>it has forced orange and blue on it, making it a nightmare for shaders
>it's the only one that drops often enough to get 100% on it
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rusted lands
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More like "Camp Lands", amiright?
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>>181243163
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Reminder that Ghaul's counselor is going to be Charlemagne, who sought a way to beat the Darkness as Warminds are programed to do and realized that only a warlike race like the Cabal would stand a chance against it, and only if they had Light
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>>181242037
What else are you missing, kills? Crucible? Some enemies? I never had the VIP patrol and vex Hydras one for the longest time. Plus kills with certain weapons, like sniper, fusion rifles, rocket launchers, etc. Those are relatively easy. And I think some PoE bosses give points as well.
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>>181251284

If that's true, it would be a really silly reason to attack humanity. Only beings born of Light or Darkness posses the power to change Fate. I suppose it's not his fault he wasn't around for Vault of Glass or King's Fall, but still.
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>>181243163
Man, the music is great though. RoI music is fucking amazing. And Taken King as well.
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>>181252445
I thought Marty made TTK soundtrack
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>>181252858
>only Salvatori's name on the soundtrack
Uwot
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>>181253253
i thought Marty was pissed because Activision was selling the TTK soundtrack without his permission or some shit and didnt give him any royalties. I assume that meant that he also worked on it
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>>181253853
Marty was pissed because Activision replaced his music in the first reveals, then how they were involving themselves in the game's production
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>when you want to wear the vanguard emblem but you can't bring yourself to take off the launch activity destiny emblem because you wanna show off your oldfag status
It hurts.
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yellowteacup
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I'm not a fan of Bungie's plan to get rid of randomized perks. I don't think it will help balance PvP at all. It's just inevitable, like in almost every game, that you'll have a select, handful of weapons, be the desirable, favorable and dominant. There's just no escape from that. Once again, I think this is another case where PvE is being treated as an afterthought, in favor of PvP. First the simplification of sub classes, now this. This recently curb any incentive to replay content. The hunt to get desirable rolls on gear is basically gone. And now this effects armor too? That's even worse. Having fixed perks also limits cosmetic customization. So now I REALLY have to make conscious decision between wanting better stats or having my guardian look somewhat appealing. All this does and dumb down the game and make it a more casual experience. I'm not happy about this. Fuck...
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>>181225505
kek
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>>181257134
>First the simplification of sub classes, now this
I too like to parrot others instead of thinking for myself
>The hunt to get desirable rolls on gear is basically gone. And now this effects armor too? That's even worse
It's almost like we will have something for every occasion as opposed to shit rolls everyehere
>Having fixed perks also limits cosmetic customization.
Assuming ornaments are not returning, you can still wear whatever you want unless you are autistic enough to actually need a certain perk on your gear or you turn into a shitter.
>So now I REALLY have to make conscious decision between wanting better stats or having my guardian look somewhat appealing.
This has always been a thing in destiny
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>>181251284
Anything more with the Warminds I'd be happy with.
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>>181257691
The fuck am I parroting? Skills are separated between two blocks and aren't interchangeable or swappable. It's one set of four or the other. So two paths per subclass, thus, fewer options overall. Tell me how that isn't simplified.

And once you get X item, that's it. No reason to run that strike, raid, or whatever, now that you have X thing. Part of the thrill of loot driven games is the "gambling" element. "Oh boy, I hope I get X this time". That moment of excitement is gone, unless drop rates are abysmally low and not guaranteed. If so, there's still an element of RNG that is inescapable. That doesn't change that Crucible will still be dominated by just a few weapons anyway.

Right now, who knows. I doubt ornaments will exist outside of raid, Trials or IB gear. There would need to be a huge variety to justify being stuck with using particular pieces due to fixed perks. Oh, and that doesn't make one "autistic" or a shitter because they want optimal stats, jackass. Grow the fuck up. Seriously, the fuck is your problem?

And yeah, it's been an issue, but now compounded by the fact you can't reroll stats or get drops with different perks. You're stuck with what you get, assuming there won't be a huge selection of ornaments, or armor pieces can be shared individually.
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>>181257134
You can always not buy the game. Nobody will miss you. Not your fault you can't see how much better this makes things
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>ditch random skills
>make the weapons and armor more like monster hunter's preset skills
Thank fuck. MH tried random skills with the rusted gear and everyone hated it because it's a downgrade.
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>>181259495

I never said the game will be horrible or absolute shit. Just voicing concern over one element of the game. But I guess constructive criticism is no different than shit posting. As if you haven't complained about something and wanted it to be fixed or altered.
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>>181245525
Then nothing changed and you agree that its not true they reduces diversity. Cool.
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>>181259253
It's true there are "fewer" stats, but cooldown stats are boring min-max stats, so having them turn from bars that are either full or not into perks means players get to spend more time balancing armor/recovery/agility into line with how the player wants to play and look. Having stats that powerful makes everything else meaningless, and they wanted more meaningful choices rather than mandatory "must max" stats.

While it's fun to have a stat that makes a big difference, it tends to become a god stat, and either you throw out everything and depend on that one stat, or you neuter it and spread out the choices.
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home for a sick day. anyone for trials?
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>>181259897
Honestly I have no issue with anything shown, been here since Alpha and it seems like a major improvement so far. Really the only thing that will take getting used to is accidentally using my third ability button when holding the crouch button too long
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>>181259981
Equalizing ability cooldowns is a smart move. But now armor, agility and strength are governed by your gear, which is still ultimately dictated by RNG, at least those pieces of gear that aren't guaranteed drops.

But hey, if there's a shit ton of loot and a shit ton of variety, along with a bunch of activities, I'm willing to compromise on these new ideas. No big deal.
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>>181259897
>But I guess constructive criticism is no different than shit posting.

I see people use this a lot when they're confrunted about their complaints.
You say its constructive criticism? I assume you're aware constructive criticism which which contains helpful advice and insights into improvement, right? So lets look at your post then with that in mind.

>>181257134
>I'm not a fan of Bungie's plan to get rid of randomized perks.
Sharing feelings.
>I don't think it will help balance PvP at all.
Opinion.
>It's just inevitable, like in almost every game, that you'll have a select, handful of weapons, be the desirable, favorable and dominant.
Fatalism
>There's just no escape from that.
More fatalism.
Once again, I think this is another case where PvE is being treated as an afterthought, in favor of PvP.
Opinion.
>First the simplification of sub classes, now this.
Complaints from one thing carried over into the other.
>This recently curb any incentive to replay content.
Assumptions.
>The hunt to get desirable rolls on gear is basically gone. And now this effects armor too?
More assumptions.
>That's even worse. Having fixed perks also limits cosmetic customization.
More complaining.
>So now I REALLY have to make conscious decision between wanting better stats or having my guardian look somewhat appealing.
Yet even more complaining.
>All this does and dumb down the game and make it a more casual experience.
Even more fucking hot complaining.
>I'm not happy about this. Fuck...
Geez, since we're opening with sharing opinions lets close it with sharing opinions too.


NIGGER THERE IS 0 CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICIZM IN THIS WHOLE FUCKING POST, ITS LITERALLY ALL JERKING YOURSELF OFF TO YOUR HOT FUCKING OPINIONS.
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>>181260508
Right; it seems like there's more gear and they want the variation to be meaningful, not just ilvl and maybe one perk being all that matters until you want to minimize a CD.

Also means adjusting stats is all about gear and adjusting class abilities is all ability tree instead of having singe starts be one place and other stats elsewhere. Interlocking stats from all over the ui is fun to theorycraft for but not fun to play.
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>>181259897
>I never said the game will be horrible or absolute shit.
Nah, you just said its inevitable with no escaping that there's no replay ability or customization and that its a dumbed down casual experience.
I wonder what your definition of horrible or absolute shit is.
>Just voicing concern over one element of the game.
You're crying is what you're doing, its not a concern since half of this shit is just garbage you made up on the spot to fluff your opinion piece.
>But I guess constructive criticism is no different than shit posting.
Fuck off with this defensive shit, you and I both know its not fucking constructive criticism if all you do is cry about hurt feels.
> As if you haven't complained about something and wanted it to be fixed or altered.
Mate, there's a thick fucking line between complaining about something and beeding a bleeding cunt about it. When you get emotional about it and cry about shit that you don't even know anything about, that's not a complaint, that's you having a meltdown. And I don't know what the fuck you added that "fixed or altered" part about, since you didn't say you wanted anything changed, you just cried about what it is, which brings me back to the whole constructive criticizm bullshit, it feels like you can't even keep the facts about shit you- yourself wrote grounded in reality, so what makes you think anything you say about the game should make anyone give a fuck?
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>>181260840
nah, some of those are actually valid points
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>>181262109
Nah, they're really not.
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>>181260449
who cares about what you think? you're irrelevant and shit at the game, fuck off retard go suck some more trap dick you faggot
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>>181262416
Quality post
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>>181260840
>>181262013

I honestly pity people like you. Thinking being a hostile dick head and playing petty semantics amounts to anything. If anyone is autistic, it's you. Calm the fuck down. God forbid anyone has slight concerns for a game they love and a game they hope succeeds and does well. At no point did I say the game bad. I'm just unsure about anything that could potentially water down the game.
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>>181263364
>I honestly pity people like you.
>pity
Autism
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>>181263364
>God forbid anyone has slight concerns for a game they love and a game they hope succeeds and does well.
That is fine, but when the same concerns are said again and again every day in the general, people get tired of giving the same answers to those unable to comprehend why Bungie Made D2 this way.
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>>181263364
>and playing petty semantics amounts to anything.

How am I the one playing petty semantics? You're the one that defended your bitch fit as a constructive criticism, nobody made you chose those word.

Its like would you accept if I responded to you that I wasn't aggressive but rather lactose intolerant? Come on step it the fuck up, if you're gonna be concerned or critical its fine, but when you called out for your shit than man the fuck up. I didn't have a pr oblem with what you said, I had a problem that you tried to justify it as something that its not.

We all have a problem with some shit they're doing, but none of us are screaming constructive criticizm when called out on our bullshit.
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>>181059489
>tfw this game is rated T
>tfw we will never be able to gamble our weapons with other players
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>>181263930
there's already a word for petty semantics: pedantry
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>>181263867
>>181263930

Look, as long as there is a lot of loot, and a sizeable variety, I think things will be alright. The fact they can tune weapons individually and not have to change entire archetypes, is a good thing. If that's the case, I'll be happy.
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>>181264205
There's also already a word for Autism: Retardation.
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>>181263930
>"i think i'd have more fun if this changed"
>GREAT OPINION LOL
>"ya? wtf?"
>DON'T WTF ME BITCH

lurk until you have something to contribute. being hostile and contrarian is a poor substitute for being observant and insightful.
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>>181264205
Pedantry is obsessive concern with minor details. Its like when a retard starts telling people that they're using the term "literally" wrong. What he's doing is being an idiot, "Waaaa why can't things be the way I want them" isn't constructive criticism, its not even criticism, its just crying.
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>>181264370
That is most likely the case, they also are working on how getting the same reward twice could actually be a good thing.
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>>181264683
>REEEE ITS GONNA SUCK
>Stop Shitposting
>IT WAS CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM FUCK UUUUU
>Okay Retard
>L-lEARN TO GET EDUKATYED I AM ONLY INSIGHTFL.
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>>181264760
ur right, i keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and he just keeps outdoing himself
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>>181265276
lurk until you have something to contribute.
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>>181265556
fuck you are a TREASURE
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>>181263364
>slight concerns
>literally echoing the hell out of things we've argued about and resolved every single day
(you)
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>>181264932
hows that stalker mod going
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>>181265696
Comma after "fuck", sweetie, we wouldn't want the other kids finding out you're in special ED.

>>181266185
No time for it, too busy doing scaffolding work.
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>>181263364
Literally cringed reading this post.
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>>181266254
god knows. why would i care if anyone else does?
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>>181266468
>If I pretend to be retarded hard enough, nobody will notice I'm retarded.

Let me know how that strategy works out for you sweetie.
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>>181263364
Calm down dude, I was just providing some constructive criticizm. Its not my fault you can't take it. Why don't you take a breather and go work on your STALKER mod? Maybe that relaxes you, you shouldn't go to your scaffolding job stressed out, you could end up getting hurt.
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>>181266634
sweetly, honey
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>First scaffolding guy.
>Then STALKER mod guy.
>Then Far Cry 3 guy.
>Now Constructive Criticism guy.

>Making the game for PC won't turn the community to shit.

Okay.
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>>181267403
>Making the game for PC won't turn the community to shit.

p sure no one has ever said that
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>>181267403
>Making the game for PC won't turn the community to shit.
No one ever said this. DeS/DaS community was comfy until the pc cucks came.
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>>181267403
Newfag here. Who are all those people you just mention?
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>>181268584
(You)
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>>181268675
Im serious
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>tfw no ytc gf
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>>181268874
I WANT TO PLAY DESTINY 2!!!!
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>>181268789
Seriously (You)
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I WANT TO USE SUROS REGIME IN IRON BANNER
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>>181269327
Degenerate. kys
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>>181269290
Okay??
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>>181269327
Lewd.
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i've never bothered trying trials or iron banner as i hadn't really given much time to pvp at all. finding i'm not awful. should i try to get those done before d2? plz help
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>>181242553
You just learn to time it right over time
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>>181242553
memory of jolder or anything else that removes sprint cooldown makes a huge difference
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>>181243163
>aka grind your eyes out until the 5 good guns drop for you

Sounds like Destiny 1 to me.
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>>181270841
Start with Iron Banner, it is a normal crucible mode with light level advantages. It tends to bring out the potatoes who only do it for loot boxes so you should have an easier time.
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>>181243163
>>only 2 competitive modes
There's only one competitive mode. There are two types in it.

Its pvp, all modes are "competitive" you moron.
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>>181270841
>should i try to get those done before d2?
What do you mean "getting them done" before D2? Nothing is carrying over to D2 so either you can try them out or not, there's nothing to get done there before D2 because nothing from there holds any meaning in D2.

Not like experience will mean much since its just regular crucible mode where light level "matters" (But not really) And Crucible in D2 is getting a massive change from how many people play, to how the objectives are handled, all the way to how the guns are balanced and how long it takes to take down opponents. So even the experience you coupld potentially get doesn't mean much.
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>tfw still no white destiny 2 PS4 announced.
y liff
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>>181272140
cuz it might be fun?
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>>181272176
don't want to overshadow the gold one for sony days
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>>181272525
What part of my post are you responding to?

I didn't say not to do it, I just said if he merely wants to "get it done before D2" There's no reason to since there's nothing to get done.

If he wants to have fun he can go right ahead and play it but the fact he asked here if he should get it done makes me think he doesn't actually want to play it, he just feel like it needs to be done for something in d2.
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>>181272829
>>181272140
He asked if he should try out Iron Banner and Trials, not receive a lecture.
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>>181272829
also they'll never happen in D1 again once D2 lands, so if I want to play them as they exist now, i've only got a limited time. i was just a big baby about avoiding the pvp for years and now that i'm finally enjoying it i want to see what else i've been missing
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>>181273049
he can't help it. he thinks this is how conversation happens.
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>>181273049
I never said the crucible is horrible or absolute shit. Just voicing concern over one element of the game. But I guess constructive criticism is no different than giving al ecture. As if you haven't commented about something and wanted it to be fixed or altered.
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>>181273608
>rehasing your old post from hours ago
You should work for bungie
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>>181273049
>He asked if he should try out Iron Banner and Trials,
And I replied???

>>181273364
If you wanna try it, try it. I just wanted to make sure you weren't under impression that you had to do it for the sake of something in D2.
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>>181272525
>>181273049
>>181273493
>>181273715
I honestly pity people like you. Thinking being a hostile dick head and playing petty semantics amounts to anything. If anyone is autistic, it's you. Calm the fuck down. God forbid anyone has slight comments for a game they love and a game they hope succeeds and does well. At no point did I say anything other than answering his question. I'm just unsure about anything that could potentially mislead him about the game.
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Who here can't wait to farm shitters in beta and start with a 4+ k/d
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>>181275053
Beta stats don't carry over into the full game you fucking moron.
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>>181275127
Dude: no need to be mean
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>>181275127
>nigger tier reading comprehension
I am sorry let me dumb that down for you.

a yo hol up nigga who tf here wanna kill sun nigs until we gets btichin skills to be supah gud on day 1
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>>181275440
Haha, based! Minority btfo
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So who do we reckon is gonna shine the most in D2?

Warlocks had a very long time in the sun before Hunters got Shadestep and Titan had their short-lived juggernaught buff. Probably likely that Warlocks will still have a silly melee range, plus Hunters have a natural dodge and Dawnblades get a "get out of the air" button alongside a dodge during super. Titan skating also neutered, which is a shame.

Think it's gonna be between Hunters and Warlocks, Titan players are gonna need to do a lot of extra work to keep up.
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>>181276997
>So who do we reckon is gonna shine the most in D2?
Datto and his autismal force.
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>>181276997
>Warlocks get a heal + BoL ability or a WoL ability

It's going to be warlocks
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>>181277214
If the Warlock rift ability hasn't been tuned since the E3 gameplay, I reckon there'll be heavy calls for nerfs to it after the beta.

>Starts healing immediately
>Shields heal at a very fast pace, giving the Warlock and anybody inside it more effective HP
>Healing doesn't stop when taking damage and stepping inside starts the healing process instantly

Something will have to change. Although Bungie showed a lot of favouritism towards Warlocks, so I wouldn't be surprised if it remained completely the same and dominates the Crucible until the first expansion.
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>>181276997
Arcstrider looks really fun
>>181277191
also this
>>181277423
Based off of the gameplay, the healing looks slow and can be out-damaged fairly easily in PVP. Should prove to be useful in PVE however.
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>>181277423
Personally I like having a heal. It's just that mobile cover and a dodge can't stack up to it. There needs to be more effects for the titan and hunter abilities for it to compare.
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>>181277423
But it only lasts for a very short time, I doubt any calls for nerfs will be taken seriously. If the titan went this long without being nerfed, I doubt the five second pool will get any different treatment.
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With sidearms moving to a primary slot, I hope they get increased range. Would be nice to have a proper handgun to use as a weapon. Kinda tired of Scouts and Pulses. Handcannons died the day they added the accuracy bloom. Can't do shit like webm related anymore.
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>>181277423
beware the lucio effect, especially in a game where everyone has recharging shield from the start
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>>181278029
>The Lucio Effect
You'll have to expand, anon. I recall that Lucio was picked heavily because of his speed boost, and that Blizzard kept nerfing/changing everything about Lucio EXCEPT speed boost until they finally gave him a smaller area of influence. Not sure if that's what you're on about.
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>>181278029
>beware the lucio effect,

Wrong general.
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Post loadouts you're gonna rock on each character.

Titan: HC/AR/sword
Hunter: SR/sidearm/sniper
Warlock: PR/SMG/Fusion
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>>181278257
I'll probably only play Titan this time around. Dabbled in Warlock and Hunter in D1 but they never spoke to me like Titan did.

>What I'd like to use
Sidearm, SMG, Grenade Launcher

>What I'll likely end up using because of optimum DPS/Crucible meta
Scout, SMG/Pulse, Sniper
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>>181277887
>sidearms moving to a primary slot
Will they be renamed at least? Sidearm by definition shouldn't be your primary weapon. Just call them handguns.
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>>181278257
What if those loadouts turn out to be shit?
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>>181278257

Titan: whatever is the meta
Hunter: whatever is the meta
Warlock: whatever is the meta
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>>181278257
Pulse/Auto Rifle/
Hand Cannon/Sidearm/SMG
Sniper/Rocket
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>>181278257
This is incontrovertibly the best loadout per class

Titan: Auto/Sidearm/Grenade Launcher
Hunter: Scout/HC/Sniper
Warlock: Pulse/SMG/Fusion
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>>181278257
>Titan: HC/HC/Shotgun
>Hunter: HC/HC/Shotgun
>Warlock: HC/HC/Shotgun
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>>181278169
>>181278206
eh, too tired, misread the post, thought it was a wishlist. a subclass players HAVE to be because it's just too good defeats the purpose of letting them choose at all, everyone else gets unfairly compared to it
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>>181278602
I won't care, so long as they're fun
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>>181278915
>This is incontrovertibly the best loadout per class

Holy shit, everyone, scaffolding guy is back.
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>finally doing sunbreaker quests
>mercury is on venus
sasuga
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>>181279072
REEEEEE GET OUT


GAT

AUUUUUUT
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Tbqh, the health pools and abilities of each class don't really seperate them enough from eachother for any particular loadout to shine for them.

MAYBE Titans will be better with shotguns by forcing chokepoint with their large-cover perk, meaning if anybody steps into their house from the only alternative path, they'll get blown away. Though any other player could just hide around a corner and not bother with placing cover at all.

It's like Bungo said before D1 dropped - 'everybody is DPS'
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>>181278257
auto rifle/hand cannon/grenade launcher
may replace one of those, but almost definitely either a hand cannon or an auto rilfe
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>>181279490
>It's like Bungo said before D1 dropped - 'everybody is DPS'
That was the idea. Since they don't want to be labeled as an MMO they can't follow the holy trinity. Which for the most part is good, since outside of a few groups of tryhard shitter retards when raids are fresh, most people didn't demand you play a specific class for a raid.
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>>181279490
Limiting certain classes to certain weapons takes away freedom.
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>>181278602
That's the beauty of D2's weapon system. You have two primaries, so as long as one of them is good, you don't need to worry. And then you just choose the heavy that you need for whatever you're doing: a sword for close range add clearing, sniper for DPS, etc etc.
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>>181280078
It's just a shame that class specialisation and builds have been neutered compared to D1 - something I didn't think they'd even be able to do.

Like how there's now a Striker tree that increases the length of aftermath. The same tree grants aftermath, while the alternative tree doesn't have it at all. It almost seems like they kept the perks and descriptions from an earlier stage before making them into specific groups.

>>181280330
Nah I didn't mean restricting specific weapons to specific classes. I meant that where Titans don't have something like, say, an ability that gives them +200 effective HP on activation, which would make them much better at getting away with rushing in headfirst with a shotgun - anybody can use any weapon. It seems odd to think to choose a loadout based on class, when Dusty combat relies more around the gunplay than the class abilities.

Very rarely will you see something like webm related where it really was a class ability (Flashbang blind + radar removal) that makes a play. I don't mind it, but I would like a bit more of a difference between the classes.
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>>181280637
>It's just a shame that class specialisation and builds have been neutered compared to D1 -
So I heard parroted in this thread for months. But we know armors now have skill modifiers and we've still not seen how the new exotics are structured.

So I'm gonna tell you the same think that everyone said to every person that made this argument up to now. Its too early to know how builds will be done, you're too concerned over nothing.
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>>181280637
Flashbangs are severely underrated
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>>181280923
I hope you're right, anon. I really do.
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>>181280637
>>181280934
I wish grenades were equipment like weapons, or maybe artifacts. I want flashbangs on my stormcaller.
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>>181281081
Dare I say a grenade mod
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>>181281181
excuse yourself, sir, this is polite company
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Hawkmoon or MIDA?
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>>181280637
>ike how there's now a Striker tree that increases the length of aftermath. The same tree grants aftermath, while the alternative tree doesn't have it at all.

Sounds like they wanted you to have the ability to run around and spam fist of havoc but they didn't want you to leave entire rooms impossible to stand it.

People always criticize the cluster system without getting to try it out. Now I didn't get to try it out either so honestly I'm hypothesizing too, but it seems like the reason they went with the cluster system was to give you multiple builds that were a lot more distinct without breaking the game overall.

For example think of what I said earlier in the post, imagine if there was a perk to make striker a roaming super in D1 style skill tree. And then you added aftermath to it, it would be incredibly fucking broken, and if it was in the same column as the roaming modifier, nobody would use aftermath, This way you're able to chose between two builds, each one with its own strength because it has other abilities that compliment it, rather than having an illusion of a bunch of different builds but being forced to always use the same one..

There's this mentality that bungie tossed a coin and split the abilities into 2, I don't know how it'll all turn out in the end, but I can actually see myself swapping clusters now depending on the situation, whereas in D1 I spent three years not changing from Aftermath+Overload+Aftershock+Shouldercharge.

Also I find it strange exactly one ability was removed from each Modifier column, Super, Melee, Ability 1, Ability 2. I'm almost positive there will be a third cluster, that will come either from gear or unlocked into the skill tree at the end of the story.
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>>181282146
>>181282597
OH MY GOD, NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, PISS OFF.
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>>181282402
>it seems like the reason they went with the cluster system was to give you multiple builds that were a lot more distinct without breaking the game overall
I haven't played with the cluster system either, but the clusters I've seen didn't have especially synergistic perks. I wouldn't mind the clusters at all if they really made an impact on how you played with some wild perks in there, but it seems like they just threw together four random, mostly boring perks and called it a day.

>I'm almost positive there will be a third cluster, that will come either from gear or unlocked into the skill tree at the end of the story.
They'll sell you that one in the expansion.
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>>181282402
There's also room for a third cluster. If the TTK subclasses are in the game at launch, then we are virtually guaranteed to be getting another cluster for each subclass in one of the DLC packs. Most likely the Osiris one. I can imagine it now.

"Osiris teaches you new ways to harness the Light. Complete a quest to gain powerful new abilities for your subclass."
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>>181282146
>>181282597
Destiny's environments are so beautiful, I hope the rest of the new planets share this beauty.
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>>181282796
>, but the clusters I've seen didn't have especially synergistic perks.

>>181282806
>Cluster 1
>Precision kills increase relead speed for everyone
>Precision hist generate grenade energy

>Cluster 2
>Precision hits with golden gun increase duration
>Precision hits with golden gun generate orbs
>Precision kills reduce the cooldown of golden gun

>These are not synergistic

>Class focused around precision damage
>Precision kills give you faster supers which last longer, do more damage, and generate orbs with precision hits.
>Precision hits increase reload speed for more precision hits which generate grenade energy

>These are not synergistic

And we're not even talking about armors which I'm sure will have perks that tie into these even more.
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>>181282597
>>181283405
What kind of converter are you using? Those quality drops every few seconds are jarring as fuck.
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Finally got hit rank 25 with dead orbit, how does this quest work? Do I need to have all 3 things on while I do it?
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>>181282796
Let me give a quick example: My favorite subclass is sunsinger and I like running the following build:

>solar grenade
>fireborn
>flame shield
>viking funeral
>touch of flame
>sunbreakers
>tlaloc
>skorri's

This sets me up as a pretty solid support that is adding a lot of extra value to the team and maybe able to reverse a wipe. I have to know when to use and when to hold onto my super to maximize efficiency (more than usual).

I think Dawnblade will be cool too, but what the fuck are these attunements? Both of them have aerial maneuver perks that should have been consolidated into one attunement. Neither melee is really cool, the super perks are boring. Neither attunement really looks like it has a role or defined style.

Phoenix Dive and Skyfire should have been one perk, Blazing Dash and Wild Fire should have been one perk, and it and Firestarter should have been move to Attunement of Sky. Boom, now you're an aerial speedster who has to choose between z axis play and getting momentarily stuck on the ground when you dive. When is it smart to dive? When is it better to stay in the air?

Cluster 2 should have Igniting Touch and be based on using melee and grenades to Ignite enemies with a Viking Funeral/Touch of Flame effect to add team value. You know, about lighting shit on fire all the time, letting you be a real pyro.

>>181283509
Either way you're just making precision kills. I guess my biggest problem is, why do this:

>perk 1: precision hits with golden gun increase its duration
>perk 2: precision hits with golden gun generate orbs

instead of this:

>perk 1: precision hits with golden gun increase its duration and generate orbs

Maybe synergy wasn't the right word, but when there is no opportunity cost between perks like this (because players can't simply choose a different perk), why waste one of your four slots by not combining them?

But I do agree armor perks will probably play a bigger role.
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>>181284285
Yes
>>181284838
Why are you wanting perks to have more than one ability?
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>>181283650
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>>181285465
It looks fine, he's probably one of those 60 fps autists.
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>>181285284
>Why are you wanting perks to have more than one ability?
Because I wish perks had a bigger impact. That way four perks could really, really change up your game and focus in on a particular playstyle.

And it's not like D1 doesn't have multipurpose perks, like Perpetual Charge, Solar Wind, Brimstone, Lance, Annihilate, Vortex Mastery and Embrace the Void.
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>>181284838
>My biggest problem is, why do this _ Instead of this _

Progression.

You saw perks are unlocked with shards, right?

Its the same reasoning why most RPGs give you 99 levels with 1 stat point increase per level instead of 25 levels that give you 4 stat points increase per level.

Same reason you can max out your weapon with one or two bounties instead of all the perks just being unlocked at the start.

Its not about the destination (Having them all unlocked) Its about the journey. (Actually unlocking them one by one) Because chances are two or three years down the line you won't remember getting orbs of light when killing shit with precision hits, and you won't remember all the extra time you built up with precision hits. But you'll probably remember popping that shard in and getting that skill.
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>>181285465
Yeah you should try it out, that artefacting flicker looks really bad.
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>>181285681
That's nice and all, but Bungie said themselves that they want Destiny 2 to be less reliant on abilities.
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>>181285732
Wouldn't that moment be more impactful if the perks themselves were more impactful? I'm not arguing for fewer perks, I'm arguing for consolidated perks to make way for additional perks.
>>181285862
That's nice and all, but without more interesting legendaries that is gonna get boring pretty quick.
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>>181286068
>I want Destiny 2 to be just like Destiny 1
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>>181286230
It's possible to want the game to change, just in a different direction.

I honestly think the attunements are a good structure, they just gave us boring options.
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>>181286068
>Wouldn't that moment be more impactful if the perks themselves were more impactful?

No? Because you keep using the perks past that point, but you unlock them only once, you remember the process of unlocking.

Its like imagine your first kiss, blowjob, and anal all happened within ten seconds of one another. You'd just remember the first time you were surrounded by four big black guys. But if they were spread out over time, you'd have three first memories.

Like I said before, same reason most RPGS give you 99 levels instead of 25 levels, and then you basically asked why not just be level 99 from the start.
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>>181286308
That is your opinion
I like the simple stylized gunplay based direction this game is going in and think it can be really fun.
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>>181286343
>then you basically asked why not just be level 99 from the start
No, I did not say you should start with all perks unlocked.

>You'd just remember the first time you were surrounded by four big black guys.
I guess you don't remember all four times you were surrounded by four big black guys.


>>181286509
>I like the simple stylized gunplay based direction this game is going in and think it can be really fun.
That is your opinion.
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Its scarry how much Destiny and Warframe are becoming an amalgamation of one another's trait.
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>>181286679
How so?
I mean outside of SIVA/Kuva and the Directory and Ordis/Ghost
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>>181286626
>No, I did not say you should start with all perks unlocked.
I don't think you understood what I'm trying to say.

My level analogy wasn't about at which point you get the skills, but how much of it you get at the same time, and you were arguing that more of those abilities should be in a single node.

>I guess you don't remember all four times you were surrounded by four big black guys.
No, my first big black guy only took my butt virginity, I didn't get a blowjob from one until six months later.
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>>181286679
As someone who played Warframe for a week two years ago, please explain.
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>>181286849
>but how much of it you get at the same time
You're still unlocking one perk out of four at a time. 25% == 25%

>No, my first big black guy only took my butt virginity, I didn't get a blowjob from one until six months later.
You really haz forgoten, white boi
t. Jamal
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>>181286814
Loading screen ships, individualized weapons, heavy emphasis on the grind. heavy focus on gunplay with a small melee element. Daily story missions, and that's just to name a few.

>>181286924
The introduced ships into warframes which are now their loading screens.
Now destiny is changing from RNG weapons to hand-made weapons which is how Warframe is.
Warframe introduced daily story missions which Destiny had.
Every time Warframe updates the navigator its a little closer to Destiny's Director.
>Both of their endgames are fighting bullet sponge bosses that do nothing and grinding for useless shit, In D1 its weapons, in Warframe its materials.

Basically these days, every time you see new shit about Destiny, its more like warframe, and every time you see new shit about Warframe, its more like Destiny.
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Vex encryption. Unbreakab---Hunters always have something interest---Only a handful of those left in the---Back out into the dark, Hunter?
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>>181287027
>You're still unlocking one perk out of four at a time. 25% == 25%
But you just proposed combing them, do you think if they took all four current perks and put them all into a single node, that you'd still have three more perks to unock? Step it the fuck up sempa, this wasn't even the case in D1 now you're just arguing that D2 isn't living up to your fanfiction.
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>>181287214
>hunter
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>>181287198
Warframe and Destiny are basically the same genre, except Destiny and Bungie choose not to identify as an mmorpg.
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>>181287382
Pretty sure Warframe doesn't identify as MMORPG either. They're both instance-based.

MMO in MMORPG doesn't reference how many people play it, but how many people are in the same playspace. Games that use personalized instances which allow only a single team to play are not MMOs.

Like World of Warcraft since its used as an example here a lot, its not an MMO because of how many people play it, its an MMO because a map can handle hundreds of players coming or leaving even they're not associated with each other.
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Talking about hand-crafted weapons.

I think bungie is being misleading about that.

I think their Purples, Exotics, and maybe even the first starting weapons will be hand crafted, but I'd be willing to bet all the greens and blues will still be RNG'd as all fuck.

Also with hand made legendaries, you should all prepare for vanilla destiny all over again where it took a week+ to rank up a weapon.
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>>181287807
>Games that use personalized instances which allow only a single team to play are not MMOs.
Destiny patrols *cough*
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>>181288298
strikes *cough*
Missions *Cough*
Crucible *cough*
Prison *cough*
Raids *cough*

Is a max 12 players area. Massive means more people than the combined number of people that showed up on for the last 40 of your birthdays.

Why are you faggots so confrontational about everything? MMO has been defined for longer than you lived, you can get pissy and smartass it won't change what MMO means.
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>>181288295
>I'd be willing to bet all the greens and blues
Why even have greens and blues at that point?
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>>181289853
Yeah, no you're right OMG all gear is legendary level durrrhurrrr.

Fucking neck yourself moron.

Progression you dense motherfucker.
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>tfw you will never hang out with dragonheart, inter, and pandox all day hitting on cute girls (male) at the guardian con

Feels bad man.
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>>181290441
driniol DRINIOL
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>>181290441
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>>181290210
Why make people play with a boring, shitty gun instead of a fun one? Isn't the point of video games to have fun?
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>>181287338
Yes, Hunter is the best class.
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>>181291540
>Being this fucking retarded
>Never playing an rpg before
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>>181291740
Most RPGs start fun and get funner, they don't start shit then get fun after hours of labor.
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>>181291836
>I need engame tier legendary gear and exotics to have fun.

You sound like a stressed out shitter.

>Its okay if a game starts with weak gear
>But its not okay if a game starts with weak gear

>Being this retarded
>LITERALLY never played an rpg before

w(you)w lad.
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>>181291836
>never played a loot shooter
Destiny is fun, you're just retarded.
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>>181290660
Why would I ever want to fly over a thousand miles to spend time with two gay mexicans and a balding virgin
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>this thread
/vg/ is a containment board
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>>181292270
>TFW saw this retard respond to me in other threads with "REEEEE GET BAK TO UR CONTAINMNIG BORD"

Fucking suicide watch faggot.
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>>181292396
You're getting paranoid.
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>>181292235
>tfw no dg meetup
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>>181292985
The people here are too autistic for that. Everyone hates someone or other.
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>>181280637
>Like how there's now a Striker tree that increases the length of aftermath. The same tree grants aftermath, while the alternative tree doesn't have it at all. It almost seems like they kept the perks and descriptions from an earlier stage before making them into specific groups.
hopefully those aren't final
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>>181282714
FUCK YOU IT'S PRETTY
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>>181292985
Wanting to meet
>ryuusorakami
Dragon
sky
god
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>>181293074
They can grow up, nothing like having a brew with the boys.
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so /dg/ meetup when?
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>>181294202
DestinyCon in Tampa Florida is dead, so maybe Dragon Con?
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I bought destiny when it came out on the ps3 but never played it. Would be a waste of time start now?
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>>181294890
Not exactly
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>>181290441
>hanging out with these literal autists
why?
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>>181295348
The only outist here is you and your incessant shitposting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUFOI9cinLA
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>>181294202
bring some beer i'll meetup rn i'll drink it all and stare at you
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Meeting people from the general is highly overrated.
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>>181296259
kys hipster faggot
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>>181294890
It would be a waste if you played on ps3
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>>181295921
>Reveal comparions

>its literally just both videos uploaded back to back.

Fuck right off with that shit m8.
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>>181296348
>hey guys wanna do a "meetup"
>guys from other websites do it, they look like they're having so much fun

i hope you die and i hope you burn in hell
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>>181297303
>other websites
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>>181297192
i feel like a big brained wizard stumbling over drunken toddlers every time i try to "engage" with the "destiny community" outside of call you ball sacks gay a few times a day. the most popular streamers are all on xbox for christ's sake.

i feel like "the destiny community" so far is a euphemism for "compensating xbox players" and the playstation side of the community doesn't get all gay and put on dresses and perfume for destiny and don't hope destiny notices the ribbons in their hair and whatever.

looking forward to the main of raw sewage the pc beta is going to rain on us
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>>181297812
sorry i'm forgetting how many halo players got into the xbone thinking "YA Destiny AND Halo! It's like having two Bungies! Let the good time roll!" only to get pissed on continuously since. having a decent shooter that's not completely embarrassing to be caught playing must be a big deal
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>>181297812
>i feel like a big brained wizard
Autism.
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>>181298385
you drinkin red bull? i'm just havin some water
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>>181297812
Wtf are you ranting about you autistic manchild?
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Tfw all the cool kids will be playing on PC.
Tfw graphics cards are high in price because of cryptomining faggots
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>>181298916
Don't respond to him, he's clearly the "Farcy3 is an RPG" retard.
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>>181299181
i should show you the stalker mod i'm working on. it makes all the guns either fucking useless or into painful traps so you're better off not even trying to use a gun
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>>181299214
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>>181299214
good boys don't get cavities!! cavities are a reflection of inner sinfulness!
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>tfw working all afternoon and early evening on the seventh
I hope I don't miss out on whatever they do, assuming they actually do something for 7/7 for a change
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>>181300071
i'm sure working on the release is enough for them. probably just a pic of everyone trying to smile for a minute during crunch.
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>>181297812
it's more than that
you know the clip upload sites for he Xbox, the ones that let you actually download or embed stuff you captured on the console? they have statistics on which games are uploaded the most because it helps people find shit, and Destiny has been one of the top 5 games people take clips of since it was released, it has more popularity and staying power in that regard than anything else except maybe Halo, and that's only if you count multiple games as being "Halo"
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>>181300195
>Play an activity on destiny to get an emblem for D2.
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>181299181
it's time to fuck off
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>>181300531
that seems likely
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>>181300531
that'd be cute
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>>181300517
i think how that shit happens is way interesting.
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>>181302109
Those are veteran rewards, we're talking about bungie day. Like a B-day version of image related.
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>>181302552
they did it for the beta, one for participation and one for playing on a particular day
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>>181304206
Yeah I know, just like that basically, but in this case you'd be playing Bungie day on D1 and get an emblem in Destiny 2.
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I just wanna do a raid real quick, in case anyone's looking
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>>181302109
I have no idea why Bungie wastes their time here. No one will fly these. No one gives a fuck that you are 1 of 2 million that played Destiny on day 1. I would rather have a animated emblem which you know they will make going forward.
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>>181307230
i've been on and off since yesterday and no one seems interested
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>>181308064
>No one will fly these
t. shitter
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>>181308165
people will. Just no one will care. When those people realize no one will care that they were there day 1 they will stop flying them.
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>>181308487
Normies care, redditors care, streamers will never take them off
Its not for bragging rights but to feel good about yourself
If you actually had any achievements in this game, wouldn't you want to have any sort of acknowledgement or are you the unsung hero type?
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whomst wants to do a raid on ps4?
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>>181287306
>do you think if they took all four current perks and put them all into a single node, that you'd still have three more perks
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's asking for.

In a sense, I get it. Precision kills grant + precision kills grant + precision kills grant is kind of boring, and it could do with a bit more variety. But yeah, he's just wanting to straight up quadruple his powerlevel.
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for general wellness and the promotion of an engaged, supportive community
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>>181288295
Get real, even the purples will be procedurally generated. Hand-crafted will just mean there will be in-house oversight on the list of weapons before they go live. Even in D1, the RNG weapons are named and flavor-texted "by hand."
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>>181310817
>software
>"hand crafted"
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asspussy
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>>181312228
boiiixxxpucciiixxx
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>>181310817
>Get real, even the purples will be procedurally generated.
Dude are you fucking retarded? They literally said each weapon has hand-set perks.
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>>181310817
>Get real, even the purples will be procedurally generated.

http://twinfinite.net/2017/06/destiny-2-wont-feature-randomized-weapon-perks/
>There aren’t random rolls on weapons anymore. Better Devils is a Crucible hand cannon [in Destiny 2], and what it has on it is what it has on it.

Next time read up before you say shit, scaffolding guy.
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>>181310570
>I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's asking for.

It is what he's asking for you should read more than one post.
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If I buy the standard edition then at some point choose to upgrade. Will I have to pay the full price or will it just let me pay an extra 30 dollars?
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>>181315714
it's full price
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>>181315862
Seems kind of redundant to buy it twice, but I guess I will save up a bit more then. Thank for the info though.
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>>181315714
the season pass should still be available for whatever price they've invented. i wound up on different consoles at different points and skipped the "episodes" to TTK so I wound up buying the full price all-in-one edition a couple times just out of convenience.
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>>181315862
Paying 150 dollars just because you chose to hold off a bit is crazy. You might as well buy the Collecter's edition at that point.
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>>181308890
I am the type who uses the original 3 class emblems
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>>181319109
Well that is your opinion and preference, people have worn emblems like the veteran rewards since year 1, it's not going to change.
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>Guns not rolling with different perks anymore

Yet another change done for the sake of PvP balance.

The shittiest PvP in the entire fucking world is single handedly ruining Destiny 2 before its even out, fucking e-sports shit truly is a blight on everything it touches.
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>>181319270
Opinion is if you have a y1 emblem on constantly in d2 you are a autist. Preference is minimalistic looking emblems preferably hunter og emblems like aspect of blood or dust.
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>>181319596
this >>181308487
Was your opinion, and it does not represent the community of Destiny

My opinion is that minimalist is supremely autistic.
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>>181319707
Well now you hurt my feelings anon
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>>181319574
Assuming they are also drastically reducing drop rates, it's going to improve the whole game, not just PvP
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>>181319574
how the fuck is a more competitive environment a bad thing? you guys are such pussies. sorry you can't win by fusion grenades and body shots with ice breaker anymore and have to actually be skilled with your primary. i can't wait fuck all you whiny babies in the mouth come destiny 2
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>>181324219
It makes the game less fun codg and shitterfallg are over that way.
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>>181325457
Yeah you're right I forgot how fun it was sharding every shitty Darkblade's Respite or Tread Upon Stars I ever got
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Tfw I am goldengun god ripping shitters assholes wide open
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The funny thing is, barely anyone from the thread has met each other and pretty much everyone is just rusing.
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>>181325457
no it doesnt. getting one shotted by a grenade that everybody doesnt have access to isnt fun. once again i CAN NOT wait to fuck you shitters in the mouth. go play overwatch or some shit you fucking shitter.
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Is there any Ice\Snow locations in Destiny? ( i realy love snow and ice)
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>>181330817
The Plaguelands and the Iron Temple are snow-covered, and the Temple is cozy as fuck.

Io might be snow-capped, too early to tell.
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>>181331002
Thank you~
I realy hope there will be snowy locations.
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>>181331091
im hoping for more dynamic weather as well.

imagine a dust storm on mars or a thunderstorm on venus. would be amazing
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>>181331619
Or nice slow snowfall with all that clouds and stuff...jesus.
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Just watched Kackis' video on the removal of perk randomization on weapons and he pointed out the little modification or attachment slot that was seen in the UI. Didn't know about that.

That slot could solve for the problem of needing an incentive to keep playing the game and repeating strikes/raids/bosses/crucible/etc. If those mods are the randomized items and are the primary game rewards while high tier weapons are rarer, then the main gameplay loop of Destiny will be preserved. Alternatively, both weapons and mods drop in equal amounts but mods are always permanently locked into a weapon once attached, so you still have to farm more copies of a certain weapon if you find a better mod than in the combination you already own.

This way D2 doesn't need a lot of different weapons to maintain variety; just a shit ton of mods which may have no real graphical asset beyond a UI image.
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>>181332282
HEY GAMERS RICK KACKIS HERE
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>>181332442
He has a long winded way of explaining things which rubs me the wrong way but I can't be arsed to care right now. Just subscribed to a bunch of these guys for now so I don't miss any news while I do stuff.
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>>181331619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsHpO2XuVZM
How about a thunderstorm on Mars?
>>181331876
The Cosmodrome has gentle snowfall
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(REVIVE)
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>>181331619
Would be even better if it affected gameplay
>>
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>>181332282
Replaceable mods and fewer perks makes more sense than grinding rare weapons for perfect rolls or purchasing glass needles
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Just got a Continental with Quickdraw, Rodea, Perfect Balance and Counterbalance. Is this good?
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>mfw new exotic quest strikes to haunt in D2
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>>181314021
>>181314149
Just because they're non-random doesn't mean they won't be procedurally generated internally. If you think each and every gun is going to get as much attention as raid guns, you're mad.
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>game is going to be less grindy
This is great because grinding in destiny was not fun at all.
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>>181357265
I never noticed the grind lel, I guess some people want instant gratification.
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Post Titans.
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>>181358848
True. You couldn't even grind for anything you had to wait a week to get decent shit, what a shitty game lol.
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>>181361747
Well not only the waiting part where you could just do other things, play a different game, go outside, go to work,etc. Even the grindy part say the exotic sword ability kills and resource farming only took a little patience, just wake the hive a couple times and develop a track to go around the patrol zones. Get done in about an hour or so.
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>>181361383
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>>181354889
>Just because they're non-random doesn't mean they won't be procedurally generated internally.
Is this the new way people from reddit are trolling these days or is this guy actually stupid?
They didn't say they're non-random you moronic fuck, they literally said every weapon has their perks selected manually for a single perk-set.
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Anyone doing Crucible Doubles for the grimoire? Add or join up. 1/2
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>>181361383
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>>181361383
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I wish instead of pre-set perks they had just removed the bad perks, narrowed the perk pool on certain archetypes and let us select scopes at will.

>>181367972
What's that warlock wearing?
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>>181368139
Year 2 IB armor.
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>>181367972
D2 better have more Ahamkara armor.
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>>181367863
>>181367594
welcome back my nig
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>>181368254
Y1 House of Wolves Iron Breed armor*
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>>181369429
Y2 IB armor.
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>>181361383
>>
Just a friendly reminder for the new clans that are getting ready for D2.

Its already been confirmed that clans cannot be shared cross-platform.

So you might think about splitting up into platform-specific clans.
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>>181369878
Speaking of clans. There's someone in one of the new clans with the psn ID Bng_Test_Server.

If you're here right now dude, I seriously recommend just starting a new account and going from scratch before its too late. Bungie really hates it when people try to make it seem like they're connected to them. You're almost guaranteed to be banned somewhere down the line.
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>>181369878
Proof? What line in TWAB?
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>>181370216
>Proof? What line in TWAB?
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46013/7_This-Week-At-Bungie---06292017

>Each Destiny 2 account will be able to join one Clan on each platform.

If clans were shared across platforms you wouldn't be able to do this.
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>>181370432
The inclusion of "each" would imply that being able to join multiple clans on one platform isn't allowed. But that joining one clan each on pc/ps4/xbox will be.
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>>181370693
You're forgetting Destiny 1 was a thing. Also that's only ignoring the qualifier saying Each Destiny 2 account, which wouldn't be a part of the sentence if your theory is the case.
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>>181361383
>inb4 "FemTitan"
it seemed like a good idea at the time
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>>181371073
What the fuck does destiny 1 have to do anything?
And the quantifier of "each destiny 2 account" only states that each account tied to destiny will be able to join clans.
Which is inferred in the first place.
What other account would one use to join a destiny 2 clan? Their club penguin account?
The quote you posted only says that each account can join a clan on each platform.
Which on its own implies that one will be able to join multiple clans.
I imagine it will be a one clan per account deal.
But thats more or less how it is now, as each account is tied to a psn/xbl account and not the bungie account. The only info tied to a bungie account are the emblems for having an old account and posts and shit.
You currently use the bungie account to manage whatever connected account you have.
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>>181371230
Holy shit that is one ugly hunter
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>>181371914
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>>181371230
Female titan was a forced meme for over a year, literally nobody gives a fuck about it and only the resident autismo even points it out any more. Male titans in D1 had garbage proportions on like 90% of the armor.
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>>181371230
>hmm, this hunter is a little boring. What should we
>Tubes?
>Tubes!
>TUUUUUUUUBES
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>>181372024
>????
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>>181371729
>What the fuck does destiny 1 have to do anything?
Oh you're the resident shitposter that argues everyone over everything. Cool, stopped reading.
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>>181372024
>>181372095
Metroid Prime Hunters.
>>
ARE MELANIN ENRICHED PERSONS OF SUB SAHARAN AFRICAN DESCENT PERMITTED TO PARTAKE IN THE CONTENT OF THIS VIDEO GAME?
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>>181372034
To be frank, FemTitan proportions make a lot of armor look weird. The Darkblade Helm, No Backup Plans, and ACD/0 Feedback Fence all look pretty bad on FemTitan
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>>181372113
see>>181372095
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>>181362191
But destiny is a great game if you could actually grind for sweet items., why would i want to play a different game or do norman fag shit?
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>"oh hey, they announced it's coming to PC. too bad they're just gonna release it on Battlenet"
>"what? c'mon anon they'll totally release it on Steam."

Would this have been a better world if I were browsing Diablo 3 mods in the Steam Workshop right now? We'll never know.
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>>181372229
No
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>>181372229
only if they play warlocks
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>>181372229
yes
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>>181372229
maybe if they behave respectfully
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>>181372729
confirmed by bungie
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>>181371914
I forgot i actually spruced him up recently
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>>181374271
Ok/10
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>>181367096
>every weapon has their perks selected manually
If you actually believe this you're either hopelessly optimistic or just plain crazy. I'm going to reply to every complaint about weapon balance with a pic of luke with the caption "hand-crafted"
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is there any way to get a discount on the digital deluxe edition?
im poor and 100$ is too much
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>>181377796
Destiny is life MAN JUST DO IT
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>>181377796
It's 100? Fuck, so much for discounted season passes.
>Like the CE messenger bag
>$250
Hahaha, no.
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>>181369740
That is Y1 armor you newfag
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>>181378369
Palindrome:
>Truesight - Mulligan/Spray and Play - Rifled Barrel/Casket Mag - Rangefinder
OR
>Truesight - Outlaw/Icarus - Hammer Forged/Casket Mag - Rangefinder
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I need to do the Paradox ghost quest, since I'm missing three of the ghosts. Is that in the Taken War playlist, or is there an easier way to do it?
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>>181380192
Set the mission to Heroic difficulty
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>>181377796
Get the humble monthly and buy it on humblebundle.
Then it only costs $90.
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>>181378676

First one.
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>>181382904
the humble monthly costs 12$
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>>181384096
Yea, but then the deluxe edition is only $90.
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I just got my first character to level 40. What's the best way to get new gear so that I can do Rise of Iron? Preferably solo, since I can never seem to join others through matchmaking
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New thread:
>>181384842
>>181384842
>>181384842
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>>181384705
Can you find games in crucible?
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>>181384978
I've never actually tried, not usually big on PvP, but I'll give it a whack
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>>181385283
Even if you're horrible and lose, just keep equipping the reward gear to be the highest light you can. The other way is to do the same with strikes.
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