/scg/edg/ Star Dangerous Elite Citizen General #174

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Best ship coming through.

>>181041083
That's not an iClipper.

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Is there a reason why CIG picked Lumberyard over SpatialOS ?

>>181046371
>that image
DELET

>>181046371
Because they were already working in cryengine so it was easier to port, and they're using Amazon for their networking solution

Also this general is dead, there's nothing to fucking talk about. The last year of updates from CIG have been nothing but art tweaks. Just let it die

>>181040917
>3.0 Scheduled for release on or about June 29th make that July 12th, stand by for further delays in two weeks.

How come nobody ever updates this information?

>>181047078
Updating the info was pushed back another two weeks

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>>181047193
Sometimes it feels like CIG is in charge of starting these threads too just to stir the cauldron to make the game seem more relevant and hyped.

>>181048138
It's easy to do, all they have to do is give us some gameplay mechanics

we literally have no idea how 80% of the systems in the game will work

How will farming work? How will overclocking work? How will manufacturing work?

What the fuck happened to "open" development?

>>181049017
>How will manufacturing work?
I believe there is actually a lot of detail released about this over ATVs and other media. I remember this big flowchart detailing the exact process it takes for ore to end up as consumer goods or weapons etc.

Perhaps some kind anon saved it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcYWTd0JTaE

>>181050005
The only show the unique non doctor smart never criticizes but should in theory be full of opportunities to critique.
Why is that I wonder?

>>181041083
>If Python and Anaconda had a baby.

>>181050005
>entire team is unhinged and slowly going insane trying to push out 3.0
Godspeed.

>Let's drop some Guardian relics, into Thargoid machine.
>What can possibly go wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8e6k-4UlzU

do we know if SC will have uploadable decals/nosearts for ships/orgs?

>>181055123
If they find a way, to charge you money for it.
Then the chances are pretty high.

>>181055709
they wouldent be that greedy, would they?

>>181055064
I wonder what happens if you throw in some human made consumer electronics.

>>181055997
They wouldn't charge hundereds of dollars, for a promise of giving you a virtual ship, somewhere in a far future.
Oh, wait...

>>181056230
Probably nothing.
Who cares about humans.

We need another space game in here, this general is dead

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>buy E:D 2 years ago
>play through the tutorial like a pleb I am
>combat time
>waste some punks
>beat Old Faithful
>this asshole turns up
>REKT
>remember that fucker today
>boot up combat tutorial again
>die AGAIN

>>181056230
Is realize this was in jest but it would be interesting if it reacted to actual human artifacts like ancient artifact or AI relic canisters.

>>181055064
>Thargorts don't like Guardians

Well now we know where the guardians went, and probably why the thargroots were immediately hostile towards humanity in the first game. The guardians weren't all that dissimilar from humanity. Probably too alike for their liking.

So the new weapons to fight the thargorrhoids will be guardian tech, surely.

So.

I had a SQ42/SC Package with an Aurora LN upgraded to an Aurora Titan.

Melted that shit, bought it back, upgraded it to a Nox.
Bought another Nox with LTI and upgraded it to a Cutlass Black.

Did I make a mistake? I'm in love with the Cutlass already and love the upcoming rework.

>>181055064
>hey, let's put these jew artifacts in these nazi ruins, I wonder what happens??

GIMME 3.0 CHRIS YOU FRICKIN KEK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GIMME THE FRICKIN GAME FRICKIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/15991-Q-A-Aopoa-Nox

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>youtube recommends me SC live streams
>go into random SC livestreams and ask if the game will ever be released
>streamer and his rabid fanboy followers desperately try to find excuses on why it's "worth the wait"
>ITS NEVER BEEN DONE BFORE! REQUIRES TIME & PATIENCE!11! CHILL OUT GUYS! JSUT CHILL!! STOP TROLLN GUISE!! BUGS ARE EXPECTED!

Every stream.
Every time.

>>181052707
I'm sure having Lando's terrible comedic timing and obnoxious questions all up in their shit doesn't make the job any easier.

>>181065718
So, you have a Nox with 3 months insurance and Cutlass with LTI?
That's not bad, you might miss out a bit without a starter ship, if that is something you care about.
If you don't care about skipping a tier, then you have a great start. If you are like me and want to feel the game from the start, pick up another LN.
>>181068709
>SC live streams
Never ever. I'm convinced that the SC live streams are DARPA experiments to see if they can kill someone remotely with just cringe.

>>181068475
>Does the Nox have landing gear, for when it’s powered all the way down?
>No, the Nox hovers at all times with emergency power. If you’ve drained even that, it will fall and be sad. Take care of your Nox.

Kek.

>>181068475
>550 top AB speed.
Melting that shit. They said it was fast.

>>181069540
Yup, 3 months with the Nox and LTI on the Cutlass.
I don't mind skipping the start, as small-scale hauling and a few fights here and there are the only what I need. Also, it's able to take some friends, which is something I don't want to miss.

>>181070105
You're fine, and I like the insurance setup. The Nox won't benefit from LTI as much as the Cutlass.

Fuck trying to guess what tool or feature they will cover tomorrow. What are the odds they will show gameplay tomorrow?
Has anything been announced for Friday?

>>181069806

>pff, what a shit lambo. doesnt even hit mach 1.

>>181073389

Actually it kinda does lol

>I meant mach 2
>mach 1= 340 m/s aprox
>mach 1+ on fucking land

Thats nuts lool

>>181073389
>>181073389
It goes 223mph on the ground.

It's top speed in space is 1230mph or Mach 1.6 agl.

>>181073673

I actually thought the speedometer showed m/s which means if what the anon says its true (550 m/s) then its idd greater than 340 m/s (which I quickly corrected).

The hell with you and your feet and inches and muppets per hour shit imperial system! Use fucking meters already godammit! Its the age of the programmer and the mathematician, not the fucking artisan.

>>181074104
Sorry, was using freedom units. The ships speeds are m/s already. 1980 kph in space 360 kph on ground. Better? An M50 top speed is 3276 kph.

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>>181069540
>>SC live streams
>Alllriiight guys we're just about to hop into Arena Commander, I just installed my new two stick HOSAS system.
>There's still 45 minutes until the next giveaway, we'll be giving away an Aurora LN game package so make sure to stick around
>If you're just tuning in and are new to Star Citizen, basically it's a game that's being made by the guy who did Wing Commander, it's still in early stages but what they've done so far is mindblowing. Also they're paying me to say this.

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>>181074863
Every time I check out SC on twitch, I feel compelled to scream at my computer. It's not my computer's fault that I have literally never seen a SC streamer mention being sponsored, even though they are giving away game packages supposedly paid for by donations.

>>181074419
>>181073539

Its actually only 360 Km/h on the ground. Which is fine since its Mclaren/Bughati tier.

It only goes over mach 1 in space, whihc is an environment where nobody is going to use it.

>specially if the dragonfly can actually compact itself more and fit in stations for the lulz so noobs like me can pwn CS and CoD fags.

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>>181079425
>Its actually only 360 Km/h

>>181080050

>Q&A
>100 m/s on land

>>181059363
>rekt by thecolonel tut

u srs?

>>181059363
>>181084547
There's a tutorial?
>tfw the tutorial is the only unexplored territory.

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Got way too much time on my hands waiting for this game.

Is the Freelancer a decent ship if you only want the space trucking/exploration aspect?

>>181088736
Yeah it's the perfect ship for that, Constellation also.

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https://streamable.com/lhs1g
>those contrails
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Anyone here play with a non-Vive/Oculus HMD?

>>181093374
>Contrails episode
Fuck. Show fucking gameplay dickheads.
>>181093916
>non-Vive/Oculus HMD
There is such a thing?

>>181088456

lool

Thinking of getting this on PS4
What kind of shit can you do with friends besides pirate and co op minan/tradin

Should I buy Evochron Legacy?
Does Star Citizen accept multiple input devices?

>>181100884
Elite is a shit game on any platform. Stay far away.

>>181047078
Wait, didn't Chris say that 3.0 was going to be out by Christmas of last year? At least tell me that this 3.0 is not stripped down in any way.

>butthurt EDturds keeping the thread alive by posting shiat bait

live

>>181109139
Disgusting lies.

>>181100884
Well, nothing. Pirate, mine, trade, explore. Shoot shitters for fun. That's about it.

What more could you want?

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>>181100884
>coop minan/tradin
Oh boy have we got news for you....

Think of it this way: They crippled any means of in-game trading tools that could help you monitor prices across systems.
PC gamers have to use 3rd party tools and view the data on a different screen. You want to do that with your PS4?

Trading with friends.... look at the pic I added. You have to do it one item at a time. Creds can't be transferred. No group-friendly tools in this game.

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Hows my Anaconda's range Commandads?
I'm working on a fun explorer / utility ship I can take out far away and do some pristine mining or whatever I want to do. I've been around 5.5k Ly from the bubble in my ASP-Explorer and kind of want to go back out there with my big ship.

5A Thrusters (Dirty 3)
6A FSD (Range 5)
5A Power Plant (Overcharged 1)
1A Power Distributor (Lol)
2x 6A AFM
6A Fuel Scoop
Vehicle Hangar (Small)
Fighter Hangar (Small)
4A Shields (Low power 4)
5A Collector Limpets (Light 3)
8D Sensors (Light 4)
KWS/Manifest/Advanced/Wake scanners (Light)
Surface Scanner (Range 5)
Mining Laser
Size 7 cargo (128T)

Considering swapping out an AFM for something like Fuel Transfer size 1 or whatever just for more "stuff", also that fuel scoop is a whole size above what I need. Anyone have ideas? The mods are obviously a constant work in progress.

>>181047078
Because the date means fuckall anyway. 3.0 has the magic ability to be six weeks away from any point in time.

>>181100884
Piracy is near impossible versus other players and kind of lame versus the AI, Trading is barely valuable once you have your first decent ship and mining is never worth the time or effort.

The game is all about the Combat, "Exploration" and Docking. Plus min/maxing with hundreds of hours of grinding for parts to gamble with in the RNG machines.

>>181121687
>Piracy is near impossible versus other players
How so?

>>181122628
You need to pull them out of supercruise which 50/50 they'll submit or fight it (than its another 50/50 depending on factors).

If they submit they can usually just run and high wake (jump) to the next system within 15 seconds which is usually not enough time to destroy the shields of most ships, let alone the whole thing.

If you somehow get them to stop, and can be heavy and fast enough that they cant jump away, you need to scan them to see what they have, talk to them, get them to drop the cargo and then retrieve it before they run away. You can't see what a target has unless you're in normal flight mode.

Just destroying them will make you lose the loot. On top of all this, finding another human is semi-uncommon already. Oh also, you can force-quit out of the game before your ship gets destroyed and you'll be immortal/vanish in a few seconds leaving the other player with blue balls. Then they could just remember your name and block you from ever being seen by them again.

Why do people think Cutlass will go up in price? It's the only ship in 100$ price range and makin it anything above that would diminish its role as the supplementary/elementary pirate ship.

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>Coming in Around the Verse tomorrow: Updates from the ATX studio, Turbulent, and a look at updated engine trails!

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>>181123170
>15 seconds which is usually not enough time to destroy the shields of most ships, let alone the whole thing.

HAHAHAHA No.

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>>181123420
It got much bigger, gained a shitload of utility, gained cargo space, gained a size three weapon mount. Is now likely the most flexible small multicrew ship out there, Doing everything from gunship support to discrete cargo to dropship duty to vehicle delivery to live in intro MC starter ship. It even has an airshielded rear cargo door and Isolated Cargo bay for Easy EVA access.

And all for less than a freelancer or hornet. Maybe they want them to be literally everywhere so they'll keep the price low cus as things stand now its the clear and easy choice if you want to start out with a multicrew ship. But I doubt it will stay at $100.

The only real up in the air question about it is will it fit in the polaris Hangar. If it does there is not better ship to put there.

>>181124695
Well I did say usually and you're not a very good pirate if you're blowing up what you're trying to steal.

Who /explorer/ here?

https://youtu.be/GOSuB8ZjSE8

>>181125838
Transfer of salt to my account is automatic the instant their ship explodes.

>>181126363
Lotta work for a little salt mining

Better off using suicidewinders to kill large ships

>>181129953
>Better off using suicidewinders to kill large ships
What will be the SC equivalent of that?
How many Auroras at full AB can slam into the side of a Starfarer without destroying it?

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>>181120798
>Trading with friends.... look at the pic I added. You have to do it one item at a time. Creds can't be transferred. No group-friendly tools in this game
I keep wishing for a support ship, maybe a modified Type-9 that allows other ships to dock with it. Or be grappled by it forcing them to dock. To allow repair, refuel, resupply, transfer of cargo. Maybe even a large or huge weapon hardpoint "weapon" that's actually a retractable repair/restock robot arm. Or maybe just allow two ships to dock with each other on their cargo bays.

>>181132705
They're adding ship repair probes in 2.4

>>181132705
>I keep wishing for a support ship
M8, buy SC. At least our hype hasn't been totally smashed yet. The list of impossible things we will see before support ships in ED is so long, that you should either switch games, or find peace in your life. The only way that would ever happen is if the game dies, they release the source, and someone makes a mod.

>tfw 300,000 REC and nothing to do with it

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>>181132148
right now, 0, but its unreliable. sometimes nothing happens, sometimes the SF instadies. Sometimes you bounce off the shields and cause damage but dont kill.

Kamikaze manned aurorapedoes is a long running and persistent Reddit/TEST meme that I fully expect to persist all the way through alpha and beta and then not actually occur much when the PU is actually live>Implications due to permadeath and character loss. Also most sizeable ships have sizeable point defense guns and actually getting an aurora into ram range and then connecting against anything but an oblivious target is probably a lot harder than it sounds. I Imagine the go-to for killing larger ships on the cheap is going to be RAWKETPAWDS.

>>181134491
rent ten glaives, part them on all the pads at port olly.

>>181134792
er, wait... nvm... godammit.

>>181058976
We could try adding Hellion, I suppose.

>>181065718
Spending more on the game than the cost of an avenger is probably a mistake.

Granted I have a Cutlass and Dragonfly, so I have no room to talk.

>>181134491
I was trying to think of how CIG would bring REC into the PU with ship and equipment rental when I realized how huge a money sink that would be. No way they would use 2 currencies, rentals will burn through aUEC/UEC like crazy.
Rent Cats and enter races.
>>181134671
>Kamikaze manned aurorapedoes is a long running and persistent Reddit/TEST meme.
I should have guessed that. The size 4 missile mounts would be fun in a line abreast salvo of 20 of them.
>>181135149
Fucking please do. I am so fucking lost and I just want to get my ship running. Do I need to dock all that shit together at first, or just the airlock? Wtf do I do next? What am I even supposed to do?
The game looks good and is dripping with space dread, but I'm borderline retarded and can't get my head around it.

>>181058976
>>181135149
no, fuck off, we are not doing that.
you keep being told off by various people.
the answer is still the same, two games makes the thread messy enough, more will make it unreadable.
If you want a "space games general" go fucking make it, do not include E:D SC /scg/ or /edg/ in the title. You don't get to furhter shit up our thread because you want to talk about an even deader game that even fewer people play and can't keep a thread for it alive.

>>181135405
>thread dies constantly
>don't talk about anything else, you'll shit it up
kys.

>>181101058
1) no idea
2) yes it does, at least 3 as far as I've tested. Although it sometimes randomly reassigns which input is which

>>181135384
The whole point of REC is that they don't have to balance it because it doesn't affect anything.

>>181135405
how can you shit up something that's dead half the day?

>>181123420
Because fatfuck Ben hinted that it would around the same time he said the super hornet was going up.

>>181135636
You're right. They have to integrate ship purchases eventually for *UEC and it would seem like a huge opportunity missed if they don't include rentals also. If they do rentals in game, it would have to be for *UEC, not REC.
I don't know what you could burn that kind of REC on.

*aUEC or UEC whichever is relevant at the time.

>>181135492
>>181135730
It will stop being dead when 3.0 is out. The stink of a mixed thread will be much harder to deal with than being dead at night becasue theres nothing to talk about.

The thread does not need to be up 100%, it does need to be coherent when its up. Two games makes its schizo enough, leads to group v group shitposting and generally causes problems, three or more will be much worse in terms of incoherence and general readability.

Nothing stops you from making /space games general/ for any other game you wanna discuss, but you don't get to just hijack a general and keep a game you want afloat with its traffic, that is specifically not how /vg/ works. The whole purpose of this board is to have threads for specific games. even /scg/edg/ is a compromise that causes issues. We put up with it for expedience and because the games are VERY similar in play, playerbase and theme, however once SC is actually a game /scg/ will be split off again, probably not at 3.0, but whenever we hit beta.

>>181136063
Oh yeah, they'll probably have ship rentals with UEC in the PU eventually.

But REC is still going to exist as the "fuck around" currency.

>>181129953
>lotta work
>implying one salvo of frags for most targets is a lot of work

>>181136140
>It will stop being dead when 3.0 is out.
johccenayousureaboutthat.webm
Hellion is the only thing in the same league as SC. It isn't space legos, everything is already made, it is space exploration with minor resource management. It probably does deserve its own general, but it isn't large enough to sustain itself. It wouldn't be hijacking as much as a test bed to see if there is enough interest for its own general. If there is only a few of us, then the game will die out of the thread the same way STO did months ago. If Hellion starts taking over the thread (unlikely because no content) then it can be spun off easily.
No need to change the title, let's just see how many anons bite and make a decision later.

>>181136296
I wonder how soon on rentals? There is going to be ground missions and a lot of people without a ground vehicle. They will either have to give you one for the mission or make it available to rent, right?

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>Star Kitten

>>181136715
>Hellion
How good is it really, worth in a sale?
Can you even play solo?

>>181137109
Also, can you even pilot shit? using a HOTAS?

>>181135636
>>181136063
>>181136296
REC will always be around as the In-game-game currency for rentals in Arena Commander, which will continue to exist as an in-universe training sim and competition platform.

Evenetual leasing/rental of ships in game for less than the(up-front) cost of purchase is also confirmed though when is anybody

>>181137109
Idk about controls, I use kb/m and only warp drive and maneuvering thrusters are in so far. Main ship engines and ship to ship combat aren't in yet. Kinda backwards from SC.
It's light on content and no story other than the opening cutscene that I am aware of, but it's early alpha also, younger than SC.

The strong point for me are:
Fucking space dread. When you are running out of air and the hatch is really far away, you feel the urgency of that perfect. They fucking nailed that part.
Realistic, hard EVA. Spacewalks and maneuvering are Newtonian as fuck and really hard. Also you can run out of air and die pretty easy.
>>181137326
I think they will ditch REC with aUEC when UEC goes live. Rentals are way too big a money sink to use a second currency needlessly.

>>181136715
we have had this discussion over and over.
This is not how /vg/ works.
test threads are on their own or on /v/
this is no "space games general" or "games about spaceships general" this "Star Citizen/Elite:Dangerous General". That is a specific scope, /vg/ is a board for threads with specific scope. Make your own thread.

The decision you are talking about making later has already been made a dozen or more times every time you or someone else tries to to tack a ded game that they play onto the general to ride the traffic.

>>181137640
REC is specifically for Arena Commander. a/UEC is the game currency for the PU. REC exists in its own little simulation world and will continue to exist there, thats been made very clear.

>>181137664
>we have had this discussion over and over
you inflicting your autism on others is irrelevant.
>This is not how /vg/ works.
this general is not how /vg/ works. It's a living exception that shouldn't have existed in the first place. The venn overlap isn't an overlap, it's a fucking circle. Literally the same people playing both games. It's not space games general, it's pilot your own ship and legs are pretty nice also. If you know of any other game that fits the criteria, speak up. Hellion isn't shitting this thread up, it would be honored to earn a place. Look of the list of games in the OP and literally none of them get a mention.
No one is trying to make space games general, this thread has an exact taste and Hellion fits it.

>>181137640
>I think they will ditch REC with aUEC when UEC goes live. Rentals are way too big a money sink to use a second currency needlessly.
The ships you buy with REC can't be used in PU. They're exclusively for Arena Commander.

So avocados next week yay or nay predictions please.

>>181138763
two weeks

>>181138763
The fire is under their asses at this point, and they know if they don't get 3.0 out at/before gamescom, there's gonna be a shitstorm.

At the very least, they're probably gonna start cutting shit that they know they can't finish, and polishing the things they can. So I'm betting that 3.0 is probably gonna go to Evocati next week. PTU will start late, and the final live release will probably be at the last possible moment.

>>181138763
I personally think the week after.

>>181138107
>you inflicting your autism on others is irrelevant.
I am stating a previously and repeatedly agreed upon status. I am not inflicting, I am informing. You are the one entering a defined space and demanding it be changed to suit you.
>shouldn't have existed in the first place.
This weakass shit again, according to who m8? According to you? It exists because the people who keep making it want it to exist. If you want a thread to exist, make it, keep it bumped. /SCG/EDG/ exists because there is interest.
>The venn overlap isn't an overlap, it's a fucking circle.
No it's not, I have not an never will paly E:D, it does not interest me. I know there are E:Dfags here who despise SC, THeres a lot of people who play one and are on the fence about the other without buying, there are a lot of people that play both.

>It's not space games general, it's pilot your own ship and legs are pretty nice also. If you know of any other game that fits the criteria, speak up.
According to you and only you. It is objectively, /scg/edg/ that is what the thread is called, you do not get to personally redefine that, its does not belong to you.
>Hellion isn't shitting this thread up, it would be honored to earn a place.
And you called me autistic.
>No one is trying to make space games general, this thread has an exact taste and Hellion fits it.
Thats funny because Hellion is not /Star Citizen/ or /Elite:Dangerous/, you do not define what the thread is about, if you want a hellion thread, make a hellion thread, It will die becasue no one plays it, you do not get add shit wherever you want.

Like for real, you call me autistic for repeatedly stating the way things are, I am not defining anything myself, I am repeateding what the general as a collective has repeatedly affirmed, we don't want more games, it would be too messy. You are the one throwing a tantrum because you want to unilaterally redefine the general to include your game.

Ok not ED or SC, but have any of you guys ever played any of these games Steam keeps recommending because speess? some look like early access and survival bullshit yeah, but still might be interested
>Evochron
>Pulsar: Lost Colony
>Interstellar Rift
>Empyrion
>Hellion
>Everspace
>House of the Dying Sun
>Avorion
>Osiris: New Dawn
>Star Rangers

>>181138665
I think that will change when rentals are available in game. I've been doing some reading on game design to understand how CIG was going to use one currency, tied to dollars, without it hyperinflating like most MMO. The key is money sinks that take currency out of the game. Every time you spend game currency, it disappears and counters the inflation caused when money is created from quests and killing NPCs. When you look at the game design and all the places where they are taking currency out, it's pretty amazing. Rentals would be a huge money sink, no way they wouldn't use it on UEC.

>>181139036
>40 characters short of the limit
stahp. It ain't that deep. Fucking losing your mind over the possibility of the thread becoming irrelevant is not cool man. This shit dies every day now and 3.0 isn't the Jesus patch. If mentioning another game for a bit is going to trigger you like that, I guess it's not worth it.

>>181139427
I'm OK with the thread being ded sometimes my dude, I'm NOT ok with people just tacking anything they feel like talking about today onto it until it turns into a /v/ tier "games with vehicles in them" thread. It's got a nice clearly defined scope, there is no need to change that scope. The thread does not need traffic it does not even need 100% uptime, it DOES need clarity, coherence and focus or else it will become a useless blob thread no one can keep a conversation going in or ask a question in.

>>181139098
Yes, thank you for explaining game design 101 to me.

Gold sinks are hugely important, but if you go too hard with them, they just irritate players. Taxes are an incredible gold sink, but no one uses those because they're fucking miserable.

Rentals will exist in the PU with UEC for obvious reasons. However, rentals will still exist for Arena Commander with REC because the gameplay is totally different. It's meant to be less serious than the PU. It's an arcade game. Arena Commander and Star Marine have the potential to hook people playing for a while, and players should be rewarded for doing well. The problem is, you can't pay them UEC for it because 1) it doesn't make sense and 2) it becomes trivial to farm. Giving players UEC pay-out for AC or SM games would be horrible for the economy. But, without an incentive like that, it loses appeal. CIG wants people to play as long as possible for obvious reasons, and players need to feel like they're rewarded or progressing. How could you do that in AC and SM? Well, if you can't give them UEC, you could give them access to more equipment in AC and SM. In other words, REC.

I'm sure you'll be able to purchase REC with UEC, so REC can still function as a gold sink, but using REC means you can reward AC and SM players without giving them a way to get UEC.

Balancing your economy is important, but player perception is also important. It doesn't matter how balanced your economy is if players hate it because they feel like they're getting nickled and dimed for everything. It sounds like you need to do more reading on game design.

>>181137061
She's perfect wife material. Extremely talented: model, actress, producer. I can't understand why she married a guy like Chris in the first place...

>>181139905
I reckon gold sinks will come in the form of people not insuring their cargo or components for "It's just a quick run to Terra no one will scan a Cutlass" being destroyed and people losing all their upgrades and expesive cargo. Then you'll get people insuring everything out of caution meanwhile bottom tier pirates will just use stolen ships as battering rams instead of fighting and send in their mates to clean up the wreckage.

>>181139905
https://youtu.be/kD2aVH053cM
@7:20 CR says that there will only be one currency. REC would have to go away at some point.

>>181139071
>Everspace
Fun 6dof shooter with rogue like elements. Enjoyed the shit out it for a few days, unfortunately the story runs out after your first run though and after that there's nothing much for replay value besides collecting minor powerups and getting the macguffens requied to unlock the final gimmicky boss fight.
>House of the Dying Sun
Decent game, but felt a little lacking for actual content. Might be more fun if you have a vr rig I wouldn't pay over 10 dollars for it though.
>Avorion
It's Starmade without the on foot/inside the spaceship parts. Ship builder is surprising easy to use and makes some really awesome looking shit if you're willing to go full atutism with it.

>>181142624
>years old videos of off-hand comment from Chris are reliable.
CIG has said multiple times that REC isn't going away.

Hell I'm pretty sure REC didn't even fucking exist in 2013.

>>181143054
Yeah I think current thinking is REC is going to stay as the in-universe simulator currency, and will only be useable inside Arena Commander

Probably will let you buy REC with UEC at some point too

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>>181139071
So I can vouch for Pulsar and Interstellar Rift.
Pulsar is a straight up 5 man crew vs the environment with star trek style away missions to planet surfaces. Pretty great but you really need friends to play with.

Interstellar Rift is more minecraft like where you deign you own ship and fly in around in server with PvP and PvE. The ship editor is satisfying in its own right, but the larger a ship you build the more crew you will need to feed its resources requirements. Also pretty fun but no structure like Interstellar Rift, so you will need to be able to set you own goals. Again this is much better with friends.

Speaking of, if anybody has either of these games and is desperate for friends like I am, respond and we can set a server to meet on.
Pic related my Interstellar Rift runabout.

Newfriend here, what's a good first space shootan tradan game for a casul?
Is elite dangerous simple enough? Looks pretty.

>>181149491
>what's a good first space shootan tradan game for a casul?
None of them.

>>181149491
Escape Velocity Nova

>>181147469
Looks like some kind of weird Space Engineers knockoff in those promotional videos, with more emphasis on starships and combat maybe.
Can you use a flightstick of some kind or kb/m only?

Should i keep the engineered iClipper, or switch it for mostly stock iCutter?

God I hope CIG gets the delta patcher out with 3.0 and we don't have to wait 8 fucking months for new content from now on

>>181154550
Eh... I'm sure 3.0 will not disappoint anyone on this thread!

>>181154604
I don't even care if it's "good".

I just wanna romp around planets on my space bike. That is literally the only thing I care about in 3.0.

>>181154779
I just want to uhaul boxes around in my cutlass

>>181154982
Is that scheduled for 3.0?
Does that mean 3.0 will turn SC finally into a real game?

>>181156350
3.0 is confirmed to have cargo, yes. Moons and cargo are the two major feature.

>>181150963
I know Pulsar supports HOTAS, but Interstellar Rift dose not currently. They devs have said it is coming but since most ships in the game end up big and sluggish they don't benefit as much from HOTAS, and it is not a high priority for them. So yeah keyboard mouse only.
As for the similarities to Space Engineers, the big difference is that you make the ship in a editor and then spawn it in game, there is no voxel building by hand. And when a ship is destroyed it goes up all at once, this happens to make the networking a lot less shitty then SE.

>>181156561
Cargo AND some economy, I take?
What's the point of hauling cargo if I don't get shekels.

>>181156712
>Cargo
yes
>AND some economy, I take?
unknown

>>181156712
Yeah, they've done loads of work on shop UIs to buy and sell bulk commodities.

>>181156604
>but since most ships in the game end up big and sluggish they don't benefit as much from HOTAS
Can't you build like a carrier with smaller ships controllable by players inside, then?

>>181156712
probably will have "cargo missions" you pick up with the mobiglass

I don't think they have plans to implement the commodity market in 3.0

>>181156894
>I don't think they have plans to implement the commodity market in 3.0
You're going to be able to buy and sell shit and make a profit in 3.0, but they're not going to have the whole "economy is simulated based on consumption where players are 10% of the population" thing.

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>go into conflict zone over at cali nebula
>some entertainment corp is being retarded, decide to blow up their ships
>making a little money, decide to check out mission board at the asteroid base
>get some massacre missions, head back
>suddenly all the enemy ships are faster and do more damage, blowing my anus open within seconds
>can't even do the scrub thing by flying with allied ships and engaging their targets, as soon as I do they fly off and disengage
>rebuy screen costs me more than the missions would've paid me

>>181156813
Unfortunately no, but there is a way to fudge it. There are ship spawning terminals on space station that draw from your, or your faction pool of resources to instantly build ships. There is nothing from stopping you from making a ship that also has a spawning terminal and enough cargo pads to hold the resources to build several fighters. The terminal can also scrap ships back in to cargo but the problem is that after the ship is spawned you still have to stock it with fuel and ammo leaving it vulnerable while you teleport over and set it up. Some what related you can also launch defense and repair drones from a ship but those are not player controlled.

>>181094403
Pimax4k and OSVR HDK2 both apparently work with Elite. Can't justify the extra cost of a Vive just for playing seated games since I'm really only considering VR as an alternative to ir head tracking for cockpit sim and Facebook can suck my dick.

>>181157584

RNG is the name of the game. Conflict zones are always random, so there is always the chance of the enemy faction ending up with 3 corvettes with full complements of FGS's, while your faction has only piddly Cobras and Asps. I always take a look at the ship distribution between both factions and wake out and back in accordingly if the odds aren't in my favor.

>>181158174
It's less than $100 more to get an Oculus Rift than either of those. I can't see going with a knock off if they are that close.

>>181158174
mobiglas web browser fucking when

I want to put on a VR headset, set my ship to do a big 40-minute jump, and then kick back reading 4chan in my space ship.

If this doesn't happen, I'm going to fucking shoot Chris Roberts.

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I just picked this up and i'm completely lost. Am I retarded or what? What can do I do to know how to play the game? Tutorials are pretty useless.

>>181161209
Do the tutorials to learn the controls,then watch some vids

>>181157584
Last time I tried CZs (back during that Pleiades Federation vs. Empire event) engaging would make every hostile ship beeline mine, which was unmanageable in a Vulture regardless of enemy strength (unless they all happened to be harmless eagles or something).
Haven't done CZs since.

What's the comfiest ship for someone who wants to fly solo and be a space rogue? Cutlass?

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Fuck me bros i wasted half a day flying and now i'm stuck in the middle of nowhere because i got carried away

>>181161480
Fer de Lance

>>181161892
https://www.fuelrats.com/

>>181161969
>Erectile: Dysfunction

>>181160874
Right at this moment, OSVR is half the price of an Oculus.
That offer ends tomorrow, though, and it's a big decision to be making in a short timeframe. I've been hearing stuff about OSVR being more complicated and having iffy software since it's not even considered consumer-ready by the developers, it's a piece of enthusiast kit supported by open source.
Rift sounds appealing up until all the Facebook related wank. I'll admit I know less about it than the Vive, though. Maybe once I know exactly what I'm getting into on that end I'll have less reservations about it. On top of that, getting it shipped to my location is more complicated than either OSVR or the Vive currently for whatever reason.

>>181161480
Cutlass is probably the most utility in a single ship

>>181154251
Keep and save
Never fly without 3x rebuy

>>181163430

Can the freelancer mount s4's in the PU?

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>>181165586
No, it could only do that in the very first PTU patch it was in, then CIG realized that it's OP and downgraded to "only" quad gimbaled S3.

Does it bother anyone else that ship combat effectiveness in Elite is pretty much tied to size/maneuverability? Where are the highly mobile, hard hitting S to M sized ships? I don't want Vulture to be the last viable thing in the small/5+ maneuverability class.

>>181165762

Basically: pick a cutlass if you want to fight at all.
They could at least launch a militia version with big guns.

>>181162825
The things to consider between the knockoffs and an Oculus/Vive: Having a screen that close to your eyes can be damaging, unless the screen is engineered to protect you from too much focused light. Oculus/Vive won't burn your eyeballs out like a chinese knockoff might. Also, unless the headset is externally tracked, you won't get a lot of precision in your head movements. You are paying for the better screens and sensors with a mainstream HMD.
The last thing you want is a bright cinematic to burn your eyeballs because the screen isn't actually made for this purpose.

>>181163430
It's not a a ship for singles

>>181165969
>They could at least launch a militia version with big guns.
Like the freelancer MIS?

>>181166118

By that logic you simply cant carry any decent cargo solo. Even the penguin sucks balls.

>with some defense/evasiveness ofc. Hulls A and B suck.

>>181166978
>you simply cant carry any decent cargo solo
[Aurora CL stares at you with a hurt look]

>>181166969

I think it will be just a large number of missiles and guns will be shit?

Btw when will the fags update their other models (DUR, MAX etc)?

>>181167169

>outside box loaded in the station

Nigga pls. Standard hold with a door for looted hard cargo or nothing.

>>181167234
they are scheduled for 3.2
>09/08/2017

>>181166118
It's a two-seater. It's perfectly viable to fly solo.

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>>181167390
>outside box loaded in the station
I think the Stor-All boxes can be opened. It says specifically the box for Auroras can be left for long periods of time, meaning it is meant to be handled outside the ship and station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p696daOap78

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>>181170129
>VFX effects

>>181170221
DELET THIS

>>181170129
>now everyone earns karma for the number of upvotes.
Please let a meteor hit Turdulent. This shit has to stop.

>>181170129
>engine trails are "a big part of the Star Citizen dream"

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I love the graphical improvements and the new VFX effects.

>>181170129
>Engine trails
Good. The ships need something to give a visual sense of motion.

>>181170129
So, wait. How do the atmospheric entry animations work? Do they just play when you enter an atmosphere? Because that's not how reentry cones work.

>>181170129

The new heavy armor kinda looks like ass. Any word if different manufacturers will have different stats in 3.0?

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my feet hurt etc.

>>181170129
I was skeptical at first, but the atmosphere transition and ship combat in the distance looks pretty nice. A furball on the edge of the atmosphere would be cinematic as fuck.
>>181171697
>Because that's not how reentry cones work
The ships aren't actually in orbit so they aren't going anywhere near fast enough to generate a cone to begin with.
That begs the question, if you put you landing gear out and entered at landing speed, would you still get the effect?
Subscriberfag, please ask about this tomorrow.

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>>181172481

>>181173020
Kek. It's almost a perfect loop.

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>>181167683
So Derek set up a twitter page mocking Sandi and Star Citizen...? I have my suspicions about Star Citizen and all but Derek seems to be mentally ill and probably dangerous given if he had a chance. This is still being hilarious in a way but I think the line between creepy and dangerous has been crossed..

>>181172906
>The ships aren't actually in orbit
They are adding pseudo-orbital mechanics, though they haven't gone into huge detail about specifics.

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>>181173787
Oh anon, he crossed that line months ago.

>>181174870
What the hell.

I will enjoy cruising around moons with my nox and the new cutlass. Even if it takes years until either SQ42 or SC gets kinda playable as a game, I had great fun.

People need to keep calm and simply observe what CIG is doing.

Eat this Derek. I'M HAVING FUN

>>181173787
How the fuck is he verified?
>>181174870
Either Derek or Chris is going to hit the wall. My money is heavily on Derek, but there is no happily ever after for both of them.
>>181174512
The more pseudo, the more it can be abused. I already want to fly in the transition zone and see how long my ship can survive.

>>181175269
Derek is probably going to snap eventually and just vanish off the internet for a few months, then resurfaces as he's caught trying to break in Robert's house completely naked and armed with a crossbow, his car parked nearby filled with jugs of gasoline and a box of used dragon dildos.

>>181175842
>Derek is probably going to snap eventually
That starship has gone to warp already.

>>181110081
>this post

lol 3.0 gonna be a failure and worthless and coming out probably end 2017

network still did not get any progress, stucking at 20FPS


Star Shitizen is a scam

>>181173787

Seriously. Im neither a cultist or a goon (they are both cancer) but whats with this nigger and these people. Did they caused harm to him? Can someone give me a rundown version of events?

Who else pissing off Thargoids and breaking their scavengers here?

>>181175842
>>181175269
Maybe we could push Derek to do something crazy. I'd love to see Derek setting himself on fire while burning photos of Sandi with him. Or something.

>>181176325
Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7n29gEV18w with subtitles, followed by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au6mMl5A79Q. That's all you need to know.

>>181176325
Derek is incredibly jealous of Chris Roberts. Chris's projects have always gotten more attention and more sales (e.g., Freelancer, Wing Commander) than Derek's games.

Chris and Derek started similar games at the same time, Star Citizen and Line of Defense. Of course, Star Citizen is pretty popular, and gets loads of attention, meanwhile no one knows what the fuck Line of Defense is.

He's literally just a mentally ill man who has a gigantic hateboner for someone he sees as a rival, and he takes every single opportunity he can possibly get to attack the game and Chris directly. No matter how you feel about Star Citizen, Derek Smart is just brain damaged.

By "these people" I'm assuming you're referring to the people who support him. By and large, they're just goons egging him on for the lulz.

>>181176701
>Maybe we could push Derek to do something crazy
Literally the entire point of his discord, I think.

>>181176779

>I sell my shit 16 bit FPS for 150 bucks

That faggot is twice the con-man Chris is!

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>>181176907
>at the same time
LOD was supposed to release before SC even started.

>>181177607
Fair, though honestly that makes him even more petty.

>>181176325
Derek likely has some sort of grudge against Chris Robert and co but that doesn't mean that star shitizen isn't a scam.

>>181177991
>scam
I really don't think that word means what you think it means.

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>>181176779
Now I get what 90 days means.

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>>181173020

>>181180748
At least he learned to wave his hands at the camera instead of the reptilian infiltrator.

>>181180748
You know Sandi is just a still image, she's not moving at all.

>>181177607
Does Derek even work on LoD anymore at all? I hardly see him mentioning his own game at all anymore.

Is there going to be a computer emulation inside the ships? I'd love to be able to develop some tools inside Star Citizen mainframes and then people could share them. So if they are doing basic operating system functionality we just need a C-compiler functioning and the community will take care of developing software for the emulated computers inside ship systems.

>>181181806
That's a reptilian trait. She gets better at faking it later.

>>181182037
I think the closest thing you're going to get is the vague HUD/mobiglas API they've hinted at. Though expect it to be heavily sandboxed.

>>181182034
He spends all of his time stalking Sandi and filling up fake twitter accounts.

>>181182037
>emulate a 386sx
>play Leisure Suit Larry 1-3 while space trucking.
You convinced me.

>>181182043
No but there's not a single shadow or reflection changing on her. It's a still image.

>>181182239
That would be entertaining. It doesn't take too much computing power to emulate 286 capable cpu with simple display and sound system. Basically kind of limited dosbox functionality or something.

>>181182295
>underestimates reptilians and what they are capable of.
Don't worry anon. Some of us remain vigilant for the lot of us.
>>181182529
They could probably get Doom working pretty easy. That would be way better than a basketball court.

>>181182739
>They could probably get Doom working pretty easy.
You can port DOOM to anything, so of course you could.

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From reddit SC has rings around moons do you think they'll be as dense as Derek?

>>181178049
Over a hundred million dollars for a few shitty barely functional modules is the very definition of a scam.

>>181182995
If anyone seriously suggested it, CR would take 6 years developing the SC universe version of Doom with improved fidelity and gpu accelerated bullet trails.
>>181183216
Ships have to pass through it, so there has to be a limit. Probably had to sacrifice some realism here.

>>181183216
We already knew Yela has an asteroid field around it.

>>181183421
No, it really isn't.

>>181183421
Scam implies intent to defraud.

Making a shitty game because you're incompetent isn't a scam, you drooling retard.

>>181183216
It's just me but looks like the rings are just a plane with texture...

>>181182739
>They could probably get Doom working pretty easy

I expect you can have a sim pod inside a ship, where you can go play Star marine or Arena Commander while in flight.

>>181184548
I don't think they'd bother putting them in just for the video and CIG have been showing off how powerful their engine is for showing things in the distance.

>>181183216
dat Cutlass

>>181184772
That's not the same. I want to boot up a computer that runs on ship systems and happens in game.
I also want irl friends and lots of money. And a Subaru.

>>181181806
That's the joke.jpg

>>181184548
Things tend to look flat at extreme distances. Our eyes can't make out those kinds of details easily. The rings in that screenshot are easily hundreds, if not thousands of kilometers away from the camera.

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Muh shipfu

>>181185306
I'm really conflicted between getting a Cutlass and getting a Constellation.

Or maybe a Carrack.

Fuck this is hard, I just wanna be a devil-may-care space rogue wandering around the verse taking odd jobs

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>>181185306

Best girl

Is star citizen a game yet or just tech demo still

I haven't paid attention to this shit in years

>>181185507
The dogfighting is pretty fleshed out, though there's no EWAR yet.

Star Marine got released, so there's full-fledged FPS gameplay, though it's missing things like gadgets, stamina, and locational damage.

It's definitely an alpha, but it's fun enough. 3.0, coming out in a few weeks, has planetary gameplay, cargo hauling, and improvements to most of the systems in the game.

>>181185458
I'd say, get a Cutlass. It's cheaper, but it has decent cargo capacity, decent weaponry and it's easy to operate alone.I have a Cutlass, Dragonfly and Nox, should be fun. I wonder if it's possible to deploy space bikes through side doors.

>>181185507
>just tech demo still
If we go off of the planned feature list, Star Citizen isn't even and never has been a tech demo.
They don't even have cargo in yet.

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>>181185470

>pfff

>>181185470
>>181186945

If the vanguard hoplite or warden receive a cargo module, all these will be shit. Like this nigger shows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjtPUSW5XuQ

>>181186945
I dunno, man, I'm not feeling it. Cutlass had this neat rough look that I like more. MISC ships are too sleek and round for my tastes.

>>181187951
Retaliator will get an optional cargo module in 3.0, maybe it will finally be useful for something.

>>181188801
>MISC ships are too sleek and round for my tastes.
I don't like them because they kind of lack detail. There's too much empty, smooth, grey metal. They just look like big tin cans in space.

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>Thinking about getting Elite Dangerous because it's on sale on Steam, and I like the concept of "space trucking", and this Thargoid shit is cool
>A decent chunk of the community don't seem to really like the game anymore and complain about "carebears" ruining everything

So, is it worth $15? If not, then tell me why I should stay the fuck away from it.

>>181191397
You need Horizons to do anything with planets or engineers. It's too expensive like that.

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>>181191586
I know that much. I was more or less just thinking about getting the game for the space trucking aspect, and then if I like it, maybe getting Horizons later on either while the sale is still on, or during another sale/off of a key reseller.

>>181191785
>I was more or less just thinking about getting the game for the space trucking aspect
Go and never come back. It would be better for you to never know and just enjoy blind trucking. When you eventually consider pawning your computer for a revolver, come back after the realization of how long it will take you to get a Python sinks in.

>>181191397
It's only when the wow factor goes off you start seeing the shit coming up, and that can happen 50 to 200 hrs in.
Mind that this is kind of a sandbox game, so the wow factor can keep growing up exponentially if you join a group of dudes who actually enjoy and actively play the game, but the faggotry level can also go up a couple notches, so it's up to you and your tolerance.

The game is well worth 20-30 bucks if you ask me, all things considered.
You can always come back every few months and see new additions, they will keep you entertained for a bit.

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>>181173020
>>181180748
how much funding do they have again?

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>>181192858

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>>181192621
I have heard that the grind in the game is pretty intense. Whether or not I'll be participating in that I'm still debating. I guess it just depends on how good the other ships are. Do you have any other points that you'd like to bring up that aren't in the game's favor? I'm actually curious.

>>181192714
This is exactly the info I wanted to know. Thanks. If you have anything else you'd like to share (more points for/against it, general advice), I'd gladly appreciate it.

>>181193167
I'm kinda salty, but Sandro needs to get hit with a truck. Fdev caters to their whales and fucks over everyone else. All the good features get neutered before getting into the game, and there is no actual gameplay to speak of. It's a great sandbox to have spess times in, but it never gets any deeper than the first day.

>>181193139
thank you
im now going toplay a old video game while thinking about what the president tweeted today

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>>181193509
Good to know. It sounds like I should just focus on the space trucking (and space exploring if I get Horizon), and ignore what I can assume is the "meta" of the game, and I should have a good time with it.

To give a frame of reference, I play ETS 2. Not seriously, more just casually. Sometimes I just feel like starting it up and trucking along for a bit. I usually play it for a few days every couple of months.

If I apply the same sort of playstyle I have with ETS 2 to Elite, do you think I'd have a good time with it?

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>>181182034

>>181165790
Most ships are viable for PvE, it's more being good. Have you tried turning flight assist off during combat? Also there's thruster mods for faster handling (dirty drives).
If you arent using flight assist properly then it's no wonder you're still using a vulture.

>>181191397
For that price it's pretty good. The issue is that you can do everything (Blaze your own trail! o7) in one week and there's nothing else after that.

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>>181194965
I play ATSbecause the Peterbuilt classic cab is bae quite a bit too, and I find ED's trucking lacking in comparison. It's deeper as far as what you can carry and the pricing game, but getting the goods there in ED is pretty much the same every time. ED wishes docking was like parking a trailer.
If you don't rearrange your life around making this game the deliverance from your empty existence, then it's pretty ok.

How much delay are we looking at this week?
I think they're going to start laying it on heavy. Two weeks delay this week, at least one full week delay for evocati.

>mfw adding a single NPC (miles eckhart) is considered a major milestone requiring "a lot of collaboration and work from several different teams"
this game will never come out. It's one fucking NPC.

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>>181196057
Thanks. Sounds like the game might be really up my alley, within reasonable expectations of course. I may just get it before the Steam sale ends.

Again, thank you guys. It's nice to get informative opinions from people who aren't fanboys or overly negative faggots.

>>181196852
It's one NPC with multiple orders of magnitude more detail than the rest of the NPCs they have in the game right now.

I know this may come as a surprise, but detailed NPCs in other games are a shitload of work, too.

>>181197345
>NPC with multiple orders of magnitude more detail than the rest of the NPCs
explain
not up to date in SC news

>>181199195
Most of the shop NPCs and random fucks walking around aren't any more detailed than the generic NPCs in any other game. Why would they be?

The only other NPCs right now of similar fidelity are some of the folks in Squadron 42.

>>181199476
how is this npc different?

>>181200046
He is a main quest giver, so you will have a reputation with him, as compared to static interactions with a shopkeeper.

>>181200046
He's a quest-giver that every player is going to have to interact with for extended periods of time.

>>181188801

The Retaliator is one odd ship. Its certainly nice to have torpedoes, but also that much multi crew with all the turrets (not enough forward turret firepower)? Less cargo than constellations as well.

Its strange. Maybe it has more stealth?

>>181193139

>Almost two million strong

Not even fucking WoW had that many players when it started. Its brutal.

>>181202087
In lore Retaliator is old outdated military ship UEE doesn't use anymore, so it has been retrofitted for civilian use.

Basically, I see main appeal of it in modularity. It can be a bomber or an extra sturdy cargo ship or something else entirely. I expect once the game launches proper, swapping modules to expand Tali's capabilities would be cheaper and easier than buying a whole new ship. It kinda makes it comfy.

I see lots of people bitch about it not being the super ultra best bomber ever and shit, but I really like what it is becoming instead.

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I used to think engine trails would be retarded but if they're behaving like this then it might be bretty neat.

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>>181202281
Don't let the vague as fuck "Citizen Count" fool you anon. CiG purposefully hides the true number of game-owning players since it would be otherwise embarrassing to reveal that their millions of dollars are contributed by a relatively small circle of dads and megawhales splurging their mortgages on internet spaceships.

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>>181203215
At a distance they seem a bit too... colorful, or bright, and start feeling a bit out of place.

>>181203680
Colored exhaust trails are a sci-fi staple.

>>181203680
These are really nice

>>181203680
never been to this thread before, i saw star citizen in the catalog and was like... oh yeah!

So is this 150 million dollars?

>>181204375
So, one of the several technologies/systems in place was developed for this purpose. This purpose was greating GPU based particle physics for the engine trails and letting the artists dabble in this process for the next few months (earlier their CPU based contour trails were too stale and couldn't be bent to the artist's will without looking like complete dogshit).
There's a sliver of the 150 million dollars.

>>181202685

I admit my ignorance about the game but given that it has torpedoes, it may be some sort of medium size ship to ship specialist (kill connies, talis and gunships) with its torps.

In terms of multi role it doesnt make much sense. I mean, oh you can have a living room, chairs or extra cargo. But if it opts for those, bye bye torpedoes? All of a sudden its a crap hauler. Strange...

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>>181203680
Chris has got a longing for those Homeworld engine trails.

>>181194965
Sounds like the way I play Elite, and I have a good time with it. I don't really truck, though, I'm split between exploring and bounty hunting. I find hauling a little boring since you're doing straight point A to point B stuff, not driving an actual road, making the process "Undock, jump, jump, jump, harvest solar energy maybe, jump, jump, travel in a straight line, drop out of hyperspace on a station, slide through the mailslot, dock". Maybe it's more interesting if you're more involved in trade, but I feel like all the stuff the game has going for it ("accurate" galactic map, visuals, sound design, the general feel of the ships) tends to shine the most in exploration or combat.

>>181195424
I have flight assist on toggle, use it in combat and can deal with most encounters in a Vulture even though it has some pretty serious shortcomings. I'm also in a Federal Gunship right now.

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>>181204998
I was so mad when HW2 came out and I couldn't create huge fighter formations like the first one.

>>181204745
Tali has two replaceable modules, so you can mix and match. You can have torpedoes and cargo. Or torpedoes and troop transport. Or cargo and living quarters. Or just two torpedo modules. Or two cargo modules.

As for being a crap cargo hauler, it is supposed to be sturdier than equal size and price range ships, so you have extra security as well as long flight range, all of which should count for something.

Overall, it's not supposed to be better than specialized ships, but it does give you ability to perform a wide variety of tasks without the need for a whole fleet of different specialized ships.

>>181203680
Looks nice to me. I don't get why people are so cross with this. Then again, every single little thing CIG adds or changes is met with whining from somebody, so whatever.

>>181205484
did they fix formations? i havent played since release

>>181205747
because they have no basis in reality

>>181205902
And? Nether does WW2 dogfighting in space. Who gives a fuck. You'd think people who wanted autistic level simulation would get the hint already. This is space opera, not a super hard sci-fi.

are the trails like tire tracks or like the rooster tail of a jetski?
equal and opposite reaction, if the ship accelerates, the trail would shoot out the back not just remain in place.

>>181206128
see >>181203041
>>181203215

>>181205747
>I don't get why people are so cross with this
If the trails can't be turned off, there will be no sneaking through an area without a bright highlighted line pointing right at your ship.

>>181205808
For HW2, fighters are 5 man squads but treated like a single unit. You could set them into claw formation but obviously with five ships you just get something retarded.
I don't think they changed it much with the remaster... I should take a look if they retconned that into the HW1 remaster.

>>181206243
this.

fuck engine trail bs

>>181206357
The F4 Phantom's in Vietnam smoked when not in afterburner which got a bunch of them shot down.
As long as the stealth based equipment can turn it off, or make it very reduced, it might be ok.

>>181206209
that looks like atmospheric variance not a conclusive answer to my query

>>181206243
>>181206357
turn of your engine and use manuvering thrusters, engine would be to warm anyway

>>181206243
>sneaking through an area

There will be no sneaking like this anyway if your opponent has strong enough radar and can detect your engine emissions. Hell if trail intensity is tied to engine power used at any given moment, it'd make it easier to tell how much your engines give away your location.

>>181206730
there will be no atmospheric trails of this nature, so those webms are not impacted by any atmosphere

>>181206765
I wondering what the practical limit of the detectability is. Can you turn your emissions down enough manually to be practically stealthed? It would be nice if you could achieve stealth through gameplay, or buy the module that does it for you.

>>181207421
I expect learning about the system/area you're in would be extremely important. Hopefully there will be ways to mask your engine signature within environment, maybe by passing close enough to a star or hiding in the nebula, or somewhere on the planet surface, etc.

>>181207421
stealth and detection works with infrared and electromagnetic detection, you will need a whole ship oriented towards stealth if you want to be hard to track/find

>>181207884
>hard to track/find
That's not an absolute thing. I'm not saying an invisible Aurora, but a combinations of tactics like >>181207785 said with smart system management making you effectively stealthed would be good enough, even if the jig is up with any fuck up.

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>yes, goyim, buy my poison

LIVE

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Over a month left

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nice engine trails SCtards

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>>181222794
Shut up, it's going to be greatttttttttttt

>>181181806
how much autismbux are you getting each month?

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>>181222794
Thank you, I like them too.

>>181223892
How did the forklift get up there? There is no ramp

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>>181223892
yes with wonder full additions like engine trails and pink space ship camo Star Citizen art direction looks more and more solid each month, hopefully we can get golden with stickers soon!

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>reddit and autism spectrum don't like engine trails because "not realistic enough"

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>>181224118
It's almost like people put stupid shit on their car in real life as well

>>181224175
there is a fag on spectrum who has droned for hours about how the tech SC supposedly uses won't produce trails that long

>arguing about fictional theoretical physics

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>>181224268
it's almost like game devs should stick to their art direction and not enable retards to do their retard shit

also
>b-but in real life
nice argument you retarded nigger

>>181224118
>Star Citizen
>art direction
Well at least now it has some.

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>>181224175
Engine trails looked great in HotDS and Homeworld,no idea why autists are sperging out.
I mean it's not worse than space dust

Why is the retaliator so fucking shitty?

>>181225714
For me it would be because you can't cloak/sneak around. But if they offer to reduce your trail via upgrades/overclocking that would be a different story.

>>181185653
>3.0, coming out in a few weeks

...............HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHH

>>181228871
It's never coming out unfortunately. It has now been a year since they announced 3.0 and we have seen fuck-all of it. I still don't know why people continue to give Chris money tbqh famiglia.

>>181228871
They're updating it later today

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

It seems the only pressing part on what they have left is the UI and character and vehicle customization

>>181228694
When people will be able to see your trails your ship is already locked by their systems.

>>181229067
Yeah, but it will give you more to go on during hectic and fast fights where you can't keep track of all the tiny arrows at the edge of the screen

>>181228997
>It seems the only pressing part on what they have left is the UI and character and vehicle customization

Yes, when you scrap massive amounts of content from a patch it does tend to have less things to get done

>>181202281
WoW had more than 2 million subs less than a year after it released.

This shit has been going for almost half a decade now

>>181231274
this game isn't even out yet, wtf are you on about?

>>181231535
star marine / pu / arena commander / planetside are all playable enough to warrant some people pledging.

>>181231703
and almost 2 million have...

>>181231958
yes, and?

>>181232039
My point is that 1.7 million people pledging for a alpha is kind of telling to the amount of players that will be flocking when there is some actual content