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Close Victory Edition

New Race Pack for TWWH1, New DLC for past historical game and other stuff:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - FREE FOR ALL, Magic, Campaign, Fortress Gate Battles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sgjUxVPtY4 [Embed]

Campaign map flyover for WH2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PtX_tJdBU4 [Embed]

Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - Dragons, New Units, Geomantic Web, DLC Plans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48El9jBvr0 [Embed]

Mazdamundi's Skill Tree/Misc Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQkUBoGptGI [Embed]

Articles on Warhammer 2:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/2/15724926/total-war-warhammer-2-e3-preview-hands-on
https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/02/segas-creative-asssembly-unveils-a-massive-new-world-for-total-war-warhammer-ii/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-02-everything-weve-learnt-about-total-war-warhammer-2

Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3CmxjTFv_Y [Embed]

Lizardmen and High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyRy3OUtKg [Embed]
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/

High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMR08CpxCU [Embed]
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/high-elf-army-roster/

>Warhammer II
http://store.steampowered.com/app/594570/

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Announcement Cinematic Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A [Embed]
Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Vision Dev Diary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WW1Nc537g [Embed]

>DEAD Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

Campaign-posting and screenshot-sharing encouraged

Old thread >>180932675
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have no idea what the fuck i'm doing in attila, the map is so cluttered
RTW's map put usability first, attila put looking cool first
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Reminder that this is a history and anime general
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30 Y E A R S ' W A R

W H E N ?
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>tfw no sci-fi TW
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>That air quality
>That construction quality

It's Total War: China alright.
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Yes for Victoria.
No for Cao Cao.
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>>181029712
Any building from the last 10 years in Beijing makes western skyscrapers look like childrens toys honestly. Look at the Olympics for example, the bird's nest is probably the greatest Olympic building ever erected.
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>>181030352
t. chink
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>>181029948
i want to murder Zulus so bad
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>>181030352
designed by swiss architects...
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>>181029712
am I the only one who sees hidden tank underneath?
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>>181029712
>>181030352
accurate all the way down to hundreds of people living in the cramped basement
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>>181030453
and the most famous Roman buildings were mostly designed by Greeks, doesn't mean they aren't attributed to Rome. China is undoubtedly the engineering and construction capital of the world, their top government advisors are engineers after all. The US has a hard time concieving of anything as great as a wall or high speed train line these days.
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>>181030563
I see a wheel.
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No ritual today?
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>>181030928

It's gonna be a weekly thing.
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>>181020454
They're also ineffective.
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>>181030708
by that logic you should say that saudi arabia is engeneering capital as well.
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>>181030734
but I don't know shit about warhammer so I might be wrong.
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>>181030708
oh and by the way, engeneering was done by british company (Arup). the chineese just paid for the whole thing.
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>>181031340
Skaven don't get tanks, and that area is too ramshackle and wooden to belong to either dwarfs or humans.
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>>181031003
Sure, Dubai is touted as one of the most impressive cities in terms of engineering and construction, though I doubt Saudi Arabia produces half as many engineers as China does.
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>>181031647
>Skaven don't get tanks
They do now.
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>>181031647
Yeah but they do get doomwheels and such. Can't wait to spam warp lightning
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>>181031647
think Skaven have canonically stolen an empire steam tank, but that picture is clearly just skavenblight possibly the skyre quarter and maybe the surface.
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>>181031340
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>>181031919
>Skavenblight is in the Old World
>Skaven are a TTW2 faction
>no Old World in the Vortex campaign
I still find this kinda bizarre.
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>>181029712
IT'S A FUCKING WARP LIGHTNING CANON
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>>181032176
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Are you ready, my fellow redditors?
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>>181032060
Such a perfect mishmash
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>>181032360
I can see that being a thing.
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>>181032447
GRAAAAACE
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>>181032542
where are my lizards?¿ xD
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>>181029687
>30 years war was 400 years ago
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>>181032748
nice deflection, /r/atman
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Is there a way to set keybinds for abilities? Spamming fanatics is a bit clunky.
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Sick memes Grimgor.
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>>181032248
Also Lustrian skaven are the least likely to have anything clan related since they are poor and the other clans don't like them and are based in the old world. It would give CA a good excuse to totally butcher their roster, locking warp lightning cannons, hell pit aboms, doomwheels, eshin units and more behind an old world DLC.
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>>181032176
as expected
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>>181033047
Clan Pestilens tho, senpai
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>>181033047

plz no
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>>181032813
hahaha hilarious my /r/lizards friend ;)
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>>181033136
not sure people are going to be that thrilled by sick rats in habits and a sewerage catapult compared to gatling guns, giant hamster wheels and unkillable monsters.
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>>181033047
>>181032248
Also dont forget:

>no clan Mors and fucking with Skarsnik/Memedwarf for Karak8 domination
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>>181033047
>old world DLC

How would this work
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>>181033047
I imagine their roster might lack:
>Plague Priest
>Plague Censer Bearers
>Plagueclaw Catapult

For that inevitable Sotek vs Clan Pestilens DLC.

Maybe also Plague Monks, although they're seem too big a unit to omit on release.
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>>181033216
They still can have it. Skaven trade their shit between clans.
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So dark elves are servants of chaos or what?
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>>181033216
Yeah but this is Total War we're talking about here. They're probably just going to have access to the main faction's units anyway.

What I think is really going to happen though is that Tilea/Estalia are going to be in the WH2 map, so that Skaven can just be actual Skaven
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>>181033416
there are some slaanesh pleasure cults hiding around with them, but for the most part they worship elf gods like khaine
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>>181033416
Dark Elves are their own thing but in the old canon they supposedly were all about that slaanesh life
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>>181033416
misunderstood edgelords

also their leader is the biggest looser in the setting beign intentionally shat on by elven gods just for keks
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>>181033310
That's a dlc for sure.

>>181033325
DLC for the second game that adds things to both the Vortex and Grand campaigns. Maybe?
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>>181033429
>What I think is really going to happen though is that Tilea/Estalia are going to be in the WH2 map
What? That's WH1 map you are talking about.
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>>181033541
>>181033559
So they are immune to chaos corruption spreading from the north unlike humans?
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>>181033416
They are just really pissed. Hate moulds them.
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>>181033716
Are they angry about elves?
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>>181033609
Yeah, but nothing's stopping CA from using a chunk of the old world to have Skavenblight on the map. Conquistadors are already going to have armies in Lustria so why not just be like eh fuck it here's 2 already existing factions but with actual tilean/estalian units instead
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>>181032914
I fucking love the no RoR mod.
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>>181033416
It varies depending on edition.
They're asshole elves.
Some worship Chaos to some degree(usually Slaanesh), but in general they worship their own gods, but through more twisted rites than the Helves(Welves are just as fucked as the Delves though).
They specifically have a series of great watchtowers watching the Chaos wastes and are technically the most competent constant anti-chaos faction in the setting. Not that much chaos shit is written for Naggaroth because it's a backwater shithole lore-wise though.

>>181033665
Not completely, in general though yeah; same way Elves can handle more complex magic than humans.
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>>181033806
>but nothing's stopping CA from using a chunk of the old world to have Skavenblight on the map
That's just stupid. Whole reason of those maps is to cover as much of warhammer world as possible.
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The fuck did I do to you. Khazrak?

Seriously, they literally just spawned last turn.
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>>181033929
They're already going to have the Southlands in the game anyway and potentially Araby, so again what's stopping them from having Estalia/Tilea to put the pressure on the Southlands and Ulthuan from the east?
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>>181033806
Except for the fact that they stated it would not depict any part of the old world map. Four continents only.

Skavenblight as a city is actually pretty irrelevant. With the exception of the end times and the skaven just making the southern realms disappear all night, literally every important Skaven dance is done far, far away from the "capital".
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>>181033885
>are technically the most competent constant anti-chaos faction in the setting
Oh, I thought that was lizardmen.
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>Skaven have access to tunnels which allows them quick acess to and from the new world.
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>>181034090
yes
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>>181034042
I just don't want Skaven to be a fucking horde faction
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>>181033974
what ahppened in Norsca
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>>181034037
>They're already going to have the Southlands in the game anyway and potentially Araby
So what?
>Estalia/Tilea to put the pressure on the Southlands and Ulthuan from the east?
They will do that on combined map. That's the whole reason for creating it.
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>>181034149
mate, Teclis is already a horde faction. So with the approach that the same race can have two starts, one being horde and one being normal start with a city, it's not impossible for them to mix up the horde mechanics for delf black arcs or for skaven.
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>No underground layer in WH2

Why live lads.
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>>181033974
You showed weakness.

>>181034059
Keyword is competent rather than dedicated. And I mean it in that they set up a defense and the defense worked, unlike everywhere else where Chaos always slips through.

Chaos sometimes slips through the northern watchtowers but only for shit like Archaon's grand theft auto that doesn't really affect anyone except the unlucky watchtower garrison.

Lizardmen have fought Chaos more than anyone else. Delves don't fight them much. I meant the comment as a testament to how good their defense must be.

>>181034230
Looks like the standard WoC game, you want to eliminate every norscan but one, awaken it and then shank it and vassalize it. If you awaken multiple they just fight one another like the tards they are.
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And chaos has died
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>>181034230

Two were wiped out by Kislev and Kraka Drak survivors. I made the rest of the tribes my vassals. Then almost all the rest turned against me, now they're dead.
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>>181034230
ethnic cleansing
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>>181034316
>Teclis is already a horde faction
What? Ain't he just start in some kind of elf colony?
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>>181034090
>ratpaths
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>>181034328
WH3, senpai.
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>>181029640
No anime
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>>181034631
>release a feature the game after the two games where it actually has factions to apply to
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>>181034716
Gotta milk that Warhammer cash cow of course
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>>181034316
I thought he was on some tower islands elf colony, also hordes seem much less relevant when the game is introducing the ability to take any settlement. If CA have been listening to feedback they should be pretty wary of making more horde factions, they get a lot of criticism. Also I think they might make Hordes more of a campaign stance than a limitation, expect Dark Elves to have sea hordes with buildings and full recruitment options. Even WoC will probably get a mixture of settlements and horde play with the next expansion.
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>>181034328
I hate that shit in Heroes 3.
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>>181034716
Wouldn't Chaos Dorfs use the underground too?
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>>181034659
Anime
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Have you made sure your troops are happy, /twg/?
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>>181034886
No need to be happy when all you've got to do is not die long enough for my cavalry to do all the work.
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>>181034845
Somewhat, not really. The chaos stunties have so little written about them at this point that they kinda just sit in the middle of the dead lands and be decadent with their slaves. They mine and shit but they don't really need to be connected to anything. Chaos and Ogres and shit will come by and buy a couple of things every now and then but that's pretty much it.
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>>181034886
All their smiles won't make Durthu happy again.
Only the genocide of every other race can do that.

Do it for him.
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>besiege Erengrad with Archy and Kholek
>defending army just sails out of the city

So this is the courage of the Kislevites.
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>>181035247
>tiny UI makes the game look a whole lot nicer
>can't read anything for shit
How do you do it?
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>>181035247
They don't call her Tsarina Chaos-Cocksleeve for nothing.
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>try quest battles from the menu
Holy shit, what were CA thinking with some of these army builds?
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>>181035247
The cowardly AI is the main reason why i prefer the older TW titles.
>Ai has 2 stacks sieging one of my settlements
>Still doesn't have the balls to actually attack it and would rather just wait 18 turns for the garrison to starve
>Have to march one of my armies over there only for them to run away again
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>>181034435
>>181034808
Nope, Teclis is a horde start. There are some ruins nearby that he can take and make it a colony, or he can move into lustria and set up camp there, or just not set up camp and finish the ritual as horde faction
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>>181035476
That's great. I hope they will create horde starts for other factions.
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>>181035474

Cowardly is a fools word for sensible :^)
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>>181035604
I know there's one that I'm hoping they make into a horde.
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>>181035476
NOICE
Go shove Widowmaker up your ass Tyrion.
Who am I fucking kidding, caster lords will still be a fucking joke.
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>>181035474
The AI is actually waiting to build a bunch of siege equipment - getting a mod that speeds up siege engine construction will help them attack faster. It is ridiculous for Archaon the Everchosen to run around with his tail between his legs though
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>>181035474
>complains about AI only sieging for one turn then launching a deadly assault and lsoing
>CA changes codes
>why is the game with british and american marines and portugese tercos fighting the shogun actively so historically inccorect
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>>181035476
Wait, are you sure, not speculating? That'd imply CA's put in quite a bit of extra effort into something they didn't have to.
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>>181035790
We need undead horde and greenskin horde aswell.
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>>181035790

In the End Times it almost sounds like they are a horde.
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>>181035896
What is this i don't even
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>>181035474
>Norscans are more cowardly than fucking gobbos at avoiding battles and only heat-seek the easiest fight imaginable even if it will take them an order of magnitude longer, and even then they're unbelievably incompetent and lose to the most basic garrison
Why are realistic vikings in the game? I thought it was supposed to be fantasy.
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>>181035370

70% UI scale is fine.

50% is tiny.
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i want realistic shit with gore options on more interesting era of the world, not this giant magic monsters bashing steampunk rats fictional bigotery
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>>181036005
They kinda are even before the End Times. His schtick is that his city got plagued so he just rallied up the cunts and went on a genocide crusade.
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>>181036210

Yeah, we all want a lot of things, Anon.
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>>181036179
Truly beyond my comprehension.
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>>181036210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S94ohyErSw
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>>181036179
What is this, a map for rats?
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>>181036210
>realistic
>interesting
Choose one.
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>>181036005
>>181035790
Give the ability to build income buildings and maybe increased growth and income when in friendly territory as well as letting us awaken savage lizard tribes from ruins and I'll be happy.

>>181036000
Kemmler as a horde in particular, and Azhag as well.
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>>181036659
>Old Friend is Krell that brings a Kemmler rework with him
>Kemmler becomes a horde
Based CA.
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>>181036210
or a WH campaign that isn't boring would be nice too
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>>181036754
Why the fuck would old friend be krell?
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>>181036885
Because he's old and a friend, duh.
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>>181036179
I didnt even notice the UI
Gonna have to squint for that
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>>181036885
Because it makes the most sense of any options.
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>>181035681
>chaos
>beastmen
>greenskins
>anything in the Warhammer universe
>sensible
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>>181037383

Skarsnik and Khazzrak are supposed to be pretty smart, even if they are exceptions to the rule.
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>old friend is a generic Empire lord with a reskinned eye-patch
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>>181037075
>>181036929
Doesn't Boris Todbringer make much more sense? Or Marius Lietdorf?
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>>181037665
If it was something that pathetic, CA would've just given it to us already.

>>181037697
Those two don't have any friends.
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>>181037697
>1
Because Krell and Heinrich ahve always been together, whilst todbringer was franz anitking, and leitdorf genocdies halflings so it would be seen as Ca endorsing racism
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>>181037697
Todbringer is already in the game.

Marius doesn't fit at all.

Krell is explictly what the cryptic name says on the box, doesn't currently exist in the game; would boost a currently terrible lord and is something people have been asking for ages as a glaring omission far more noticeable than other Elector Counts.
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>>181037697
Boris is already in the game. It doesn't looks like a proper dlc to simply unlock him on campaign map. Anyway, Empire is just boring. Why would anyone want more of it?
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>>181037761
delet this
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>>181037697
Boris is a payed dlc, comes with beasty boys.
so no, never anon.
same with Red Duke, as he comes with the welves.

Krell is old, and a friend of heinrich. Heinrichs quests all reference, 'perhaps krell is in this tomb here' in dialogue
he has a line saying "where is krell' when you click on him furthermore.
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>>181037853
>the cryptic name says on the box
Elaborate?
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>>181037871
>Why would anyone want more of it

To make it less boring perhaps
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>>181038028
he is the ultimate old and the ultimate friend
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>>181038059
It's would be boring in any case.
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>>181038173
Well thats just like, your opinion man
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>>181038173
Yeah we got your bait the first time.
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They already confirmed that Old Friend isn't a LL or anything major.

Given that it's most likely tied to CA's 30 year anniversary, I'm guessing it's some kind of gag unit reference to one of the previous games. Like a unit of Nipponese Ronin as a way of referencing the original Shogun Total War.
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>>181038290
What bait? Empire is just a humans in funny clothes. What's interesting about that?
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>>181038320
A unit of amazons from rome 1
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>>181038320
They just said it's something like Blood Knights. A heroic unit is about the same amount of work.

LL isn't that much more major either.

>>181038403
;^)
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>>181038403
>funny clothes

>this is the kind of shit-taste pleb fantasy brought to this general
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>>181038738
>fantasy brought to this general
I'm playing Total War since Rome. And that guy on your pic looks gay as fuck.
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>>181038939
t. no-taste cuckboi
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How retarded Pixelated Apollo and LegendofTotalWar are?
I get a sense from their shitty attitude but don't bother to look at them because I don't want to waster my time, just Arch is enough.
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>>181035604
>>181035790
>>181035840
>>181035930
I lied, but it was for your own good. Now that you got your hopes up and then crushed, you won't get disappointed with skaven and high elf paths and other shitty mechanics they will recycle.

Thank me later.
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>>181039210
>high elf paths
Who care about them?
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>>181039210
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>>181038738
Come on anon. You have to admit that Empire total war was full of retarded wigs and clothing.
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no news today?
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>>181039320
guy on the far right does look like he takes it in the rusty sheriffs badge

all the other guys look badass though
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>>181039457
>Empire total war

That's a completely different period you retard
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>>181039460
Nop.
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>>181039537
My point is this thread already had shit taste before fantasy was even a thing here, you drooling mouthbreather.
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>>181039210
>implying everyone isn't expecting skaven to get the underway mechanic anyways
>implying they would give the high elves that mechanic
>implying I wasn't just waiting for the opportunity to sperg about how I wanted CA to do tehenhuain
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>>181039769
I didn't realise /twg/ was one person
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>>181039210
wait he isn't a horde start? from what it looked like in the campaign video he was going to be one.
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>>181039872
with global recruitment CA are pretty close to making horde play part of a stance anyway. Armies don't just wander endlessly, they take settlements and garrison them and train locals.
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>>181039872
I'm looking forward to establishing a global Skink Caliphate.

HOLA SOTEK!
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The Senate must answer the Arabian tribe's aggression and orders were sent to pacify the entire region of Aethiopia, this shall serve as a good testing ground for Roma military reform before setting out deeper into Ptolemy lands and secure Alexandria from opportune raidings.

You guys still like campaign posting right?
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>>181040230
The only Global recruitment worth using in WH is the vamp's raise dead mechanic, every thing else feels like it would take longer than just walking back to a nearby military province.
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>>181041098
yes please continue
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>>181041098
Only if you drop it all and migrate to Lithuania.
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>>181041098
Yes, I think they can be interesting, and it is a way to bump the thread when no one is arguing or discussing anything else.
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>>181041098
>You guys still like campaign posting right?
Any campaign is a good campaign, keep going.
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>>181041098
It's probably the only thing keeping this general well and alive since trashammer
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>>181037947
But that means that VC have the most attention of anyone else.
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>>181041508
Nothing wrong with it.
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>>181041508
That's the best part.
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>>181041393
t. Alperen Guman
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I have conquered all of Britain as saxons and stabilizied the provinces and built and army and fleet. What do I conquer next? Or do I just go around the world raiding shit?
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>its an agent fails her action for the 10th time in a row episode
FUCK
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A result far beyond most Senators expectations after Roma bloody experiences against Arabian's foes. While auxiliaries held an adequate line, Roma legionnaires went far above the call of duty. With two legions on their way to pacify Alexandria backdoor, Aethiopia is expected to last for two years on account of its rather vast territory.

If things remain calm at home, with Egypt and the Seleucids then Roma expansions will be a peaceful one indeed.
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>>181042209
2 smort fur fentezay
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>42% chance for assassination attempts succeed most of the time
>72% chance fails more then succeeds

ugh why isnt 72% just 100%
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>>181042460
To be frank with ya, I think you need to convert to christianity or die.
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>>181043038
>3 agents around enemy agent
>95%, 84%, 70-something %
>they all fail
>two turns in a row
>enemy stabs my general in the dick and sabotages the army with zero fucks given, then walks over to my town and sets fire to a farm
Haha, yeah the AI totally doesn't cheat at all, really we promise you guize ;^)

Why can't CA spend some minimum of effort on the AI instead of just handing it a fuckhuge bonus to all money, all dicerolls and all stats?
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>>181043068
My Brother in Cristo.
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>>181043068
This.
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>>181029485
Forgot about quest battles till right at the end of my world conquest so sent my doomstack to do them. My god.
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>>181043350
guess what is easier to do
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Perfidious Hellenic bastards!

Since the end of Pyrrhus wars on Italian soil, the Republic of Roma shared the immense wealth with Epirus through years of trading. This act of blatant aggression has the Senate very worried, One of Roma two fleets will be called back to guard Romes rich holding and a new Legion will be mustered, Aethiopia legions are to expedite conquests and come back home leaving a single one to guard Alexandria and these potential new lands.

All expansion in Egypt is over, Rome must prepare for war, a massive one, very close to home.
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>>181043350
Failing an assassination attempt gives the target a better chance to resist subsequent agent actions if attempted during the same turn. If you're going to spam assassination you're better of doing it with one agent.
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>>181042818
>using agents
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>stacking buffs/banners to get orion to 90 movespeed
>don't even have a lore of shadows caster in his army

Gotta go fast!
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Tyros and Salamis are sacked by the fleet and a large tribal army is seen making it's way to their coastal holding. This money is to be redirected into the first Legion and if things looks grim, Aethiopia will be abandoned to favor wars closer to home.

This venture into rich middle eastern lands will not go unanswered after all.
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>>181043068
Kirishitan out
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>>181045376
pagans infidels and heretics kindly fuck off
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>tfw don't know what faction to play in warhammer
please assist
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>>181045758
Empire if it's your first campaign.
Dorfs or Vampires if you want comfy.
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>>181045758
it's not a particularly hard choice, there's 2 good campaigns Vampire Counts and Skarsnik. Warhammer II might improve that to 3 good campaigns.
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>>181045758
check your digits
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>skarsnik has no settlements left
>somehow has a full stack+waagh stack
>neither are taking attrition from not having a settlement/being unable to afford the units

Schemes
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>>181045872

Do you have the anti beastmen research complete?
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>>181045886
Orcs can be fun if you intentionally expand too fast while another stack sacks everything not occupyable.
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>>181046162
no
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>>181046127

Can't take no settlements attrition if you're raiding. Waaaghs are also technically horde factions so they don't care either way.
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>>181046085
>fay enchantress
alright guess ill go conquer narnia
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>>181035474
I've been starved out while playing FOTS, both by small armies that i could take on in the field with my garrison, but also by massive armies.

use ambush stance and agents to prevent them from moving. its the same in fots.

actually some aspects of warhammer made me better at FotS.
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Numbers is a quality of its own but Rome doesn't employ incapable men as commanders: quality and cunning shall prevail.

Epirus now control a third of the Iberian peninsula, war against them is inevitable. These Arabian tribes backs -need- to be broken swiftly.
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>>181046327
infantry sucks, focus on cavalry, take a trebuchet if you get frustrated by the enemy just chilling on their side of the map. jew your fellow bretonnians (everyone, but duh), rush unification.

not a bad campaign really. have fun.
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do any of you guys get frozen campaign map screen after random time but mostly pretty fast, few minutes or any few second into the game? the screen freezes but you can hear the game is still running and then after few second it stops working. I did everything and nothing fixes my problem, do any of you fellow memer's know anything like this?
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>>181046635
>fighting worthless arabs when Epiros is owns rightful roman clay

shamefull really
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>>181047151
CA had a lot of calls to make on all the irregular skaven units.
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>>181047242
There's gold down there, I need that money. Once these armies are broken one of the legions will trek it back home.
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>>181047151
Started happening to me in the last several months, at random points it does similar to that. The game won't crash but will stay (visually) frozen, I can hear battles/music/clicks I make but it stays stuck. Makes it impossible to play more than a few turns without that happening.

Tried lowering graphics settings but now the game goes black instead of freeze-framing but otherwise does the same thing.
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>Ostland declares war on my friends Ostermark
>busy crusading against VC so too buys to help
>Ostermark is down to their last settlement
>despite chaos literally being on their doorstep Ostland wishes to see the people of Bechafen strave so simply continues the siege
>he is accompanied by another army of his so feels more than confident
>finally finish with Vc and thier rebels
>my Witch Hunter which had killed a chaos champion outside Bechafen the turn before now sets his sites on the elector of Ostland
>he is killed
>his supply force flees
>his remaining force is taken by the starved civilians of Bechafen and Karl Franz himself
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wew
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>>181047546
Totally the same for me. I did everysingle thing possible but nothing helped, Updated all drivers even tied installing old ones, played without mods, same shit happens no matter what i do.
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>>181047836
Can't say "fleet" without"feet".
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WE
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>>181048242
I don't get it.
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>>181047836
Are they a flying unit?
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Crooked Moon can fuck right off

>>181048382
spellsinger on a great eagel + army speed buffs from orion + a trait they have that boosts speed
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>>181048369
Fleet is seldomly used in place of quick, fast, or speedy.
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>>181048254
>Naquia Zakutu
>Naquia
>Zakutu

how?
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>>181047879
Do you know if your system meets the game's system requirements? My laptop technically doesn't but was able to run the game fine for the first few months.
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>>181049180
my game runs well, i have no problem with that i used to play for long time but last month i get crashes non stop all the time without a chance to play, its really annoying not to be able to play one of my most favorite game after i come back from work
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>>181045886
The Empire is fun 2bh
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>>181045886
how much of a brainlet do you have to be to think autowin counts are the only good campaign
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>>181050895
I don't think that, I think skarsnik is also a good campaign.
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>>181051116
Belegar is better anyway.
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>>181051176
objectively wrong, but stay obnoxious.
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>>181051407
>redline buffs to make your gobbos better than chaos warriors: the campaign

vs

>punished belegar: a king denied his kingdom
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>Nagash still not announced
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>>181051636
>tfw countless failed Belegar campaigns have ruined my love for playing as Dorfs

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>LE RATS DONT EXIST XDDD

Reveal the next historical title already you hacks, you already blew it with TWW """"""2"""""" by making it more of the same casual borefest
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>>181052445
gonna wait for the game to come out before i pass judgment
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>>181035930
it looked like he might be based off of the campaign flyover but i can't be sure
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>all these retards making "skaven FINALLY confirmed! (for real)" videos for the billionth time in response to a green teaser

Yea its likely skaven but nobody knows what the definition of confirmed is apparently
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Is this the monster hunter general
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>>181052309
>ever losing a dwarf campaign
How?

Even if you're outnumbered 4 to 1 you can still pull around a siege defence and keep your campaign alive.
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>>181052445
if the history reveal is China I doubt the studio will survive the shockwaves from the autistic fits thrown globally. If it's Arthurian Britain it'd technically be a fantasy game still.
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>>181052309
>tfw all of the failed attempts just make me want to play him more
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>>181052445
>same casual borefest
Total war is casual and always was. Are you in denial?
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>>181053246
>Arthurian Britain

Why on Earth would it be that? Besides that's pretty much Attila.
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>>181053431
>rome 1 had barbarian invasion
>rome 2 had atilla
>atilla has age of charlemagne
>warband had viking invasion
>atilla has age of arthur
what esle could this hoistorical DLC be in the game of FIRERCE viking berzerkers and greek fire
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>>181052927
> It's been confirmed since the first fucking trailer, and if that wasn't obvious enough, the five thousand "ratified" puns and the box art + metal case are blatant
> all these people claiming that Skaven are the pre-order content
> all these people still saying the fourth race is Tomb Kings or CHORFS
> Arch is still the crowned king of retards
> other YT personalities shilling for views
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>>181053705
Sounds like every Total War title ever.
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>>181053064
Not but I'm going to pre order that in pc
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>>181053705
>the 88 hours is not quite accurate as I left the game idle quite a lot
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>>181053705
>there are factions within races to chose from but having played a few of these they do not offer much difference in play style, substituting a few mechanics to pretend its differing playstyle,
So basically mediveal 2, how different really were the christians and saracens
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Two legions strike as one in the night of the same day, wiping out tribal armies with Italian auxiliaries suffering the brunt of losses. As dawn light grows, both commanders push their men for a final assault but the Arabian chieftain wisen up and retreat where it is expected he'll entrench himself in his city, whereupon both legions will converge for a quick assault to minimize losses. Afterward Legio 3, filled with veterans Legionnaires, will be making the long road home to reinforce Roman holdings against Epirus.
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Can i buy tw warhammer and pirate the dlc?
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>saving ostland
>suddenly orion is marching through my territory
>forget about it and end turn
>he confederated with durthu who has conquered Nordland
>keeps marching through my land
I wanted to build my settlements not another army
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>>181054780
no
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Hoo ha Hoo ha poster, where are you?
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>>181053705
>This game is literally Rome Total War II with a new paint job

how? like I i've heard the arguments here on /twg/ as to why Warhammer is bad (which I agree with) but I don't get how the game is like Rome 2.
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>>181055506

I guess the basic mechanic of settlement expansion, general leading armies and such are still the same.

Also the AI has pretty much not changed, with forced march, ambush and similar
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>>181053751
Dildo?
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>>181054780
Yes.
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>>181054780
No, if I paid for this you too
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>>181055760
Of course
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The war with the Ostlanders finally came to an end, many dwarves swore a defensive allaince with the Emperor, would the elector counts be able make peace as well and fight northwards, let us hope durthu does not choke us with his vines
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>>181056301
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>>181056301
>>181056684
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>>181056301
The DE's do look sort of anime as is, come to think of it.
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What do you think Arch does for a living? I'm inclined to think that he's a tradesman of some sort, if he's not a NEET. Definitely a pleb of some sort.
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So i got the Elves DLC on the sale.

How do I knifear?

Am I supposed to just sit on the grand campaign?
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>>181057591
he lives off creative assembly fund for controlled opposition
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>>181053705
>this game has mechanics like every game in the franchise
>I don't like them
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>>181057987
Mostly yes, that and micro in battles with the archers, Try a full riders army
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>>181054780
Yes you can
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Does anyone get the feeling that TWW shouldn't be this boring?

Like the concept should make for a lot of replayability, but somehow it ends up more boring than historical title, I have this weird feeling that it's wrong and shouldn't be like this
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>>181041098

Thinking about starting a new Rome 2 campaign, what are some worthy DLC's to buy?
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>>181056301
This turns me on very much
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>>181057591
Gigantic pleb no doubt, might not even know what the fuck he's talking about half the time, entirely relies on the wikis for his lore vids and info
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>>181058667
posting momcest in /twg/ is like throwing a steak into a pack of wolves
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>>181058530
Try factions unlockers
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>>181058530
it's not like that, speak for yourself
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>>181058530
Think of it more like an RPG sandbox and it gets way better

Total War games have always been about making your own fun desu.
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>>181058530
I don't find it that boring though that could be because i use mods. though i admit it's not as in deep as other TW games
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>>181058839
So, a very good idea that has no downsides whatsoever? Someone should keep going then.
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>>181059174
>not as in deep as other TW games
that's a fuck up. meant to say it's not as deep as other TW games
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>>181059174
Campaign map seems to be the shallowest, battles are fine short of maybe a few tweaks here and there as CA sees fit, but I don't have anything to compare it to since TWWH1 is my first total war game.
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How dare you asinine mortals lie
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>>181059635
>Campaign map seems to be the shallowest,
ya this seems to be the biggest complaint and i see why. compared to Med 2 or Attila the campaign map is horrible. nothing really to do. which is why I'm hoping that warhammer 2 and 3 will fix it.


>battles are fine short of maybe a few tweaks here and there
I generally agree with this. their are some mods that do just that already out.

>TWWH1 is my first total war game.
try put Attila or Med 2. you might like those better. there's n overhaul mod for med 2 that turns it into the warhammer universe. Attila is definitely the most mechanically in depth one though out of the series.
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>there are people who think that TWW2 is "an expansion" despite having as much/more content as TWW1 on release
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>>181045758

idk, what kind of fighting do you like? Do you wanna just run forward and smash into their lines? Do you wanna just chill back and blast them from afar? Do you want to overwhelm and swarm your enemy or do you want to be a jack of all trades but master of none type?
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>>181059635
The lack of formations really puts me off. The fact thay my so-called disciplined imperial troops are not able to close ranks and put up a wall of pikes and halberds just makes no sense for the faction.
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>>181060262
>implying "content" is what determines whether somethings a new game rather than gameplay & engine
If you have the exact same gameplay & engine with different content you have yourself an expansion dipshit
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>>181060234
>muh mediveal
Why is that game so great, it is easily abused, it is not historically accurate, its tactics and strategy are both meh, whilst the papal mechanics are annoying rather than actually restrictive, territories can not be inherited nor elaborate treaties be made, a miliatry ally is a NAP partner more than anyhting
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>>181060694
This is retarded, 90% of all game sequels are on the same engine with the same basic gameplay
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>>181060694
>Call of Pripyat is an expansion for Shadow of Chernobyl
Try again.
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>>181060234
>Med 2

Not particularly complex at all either. Most TW games aren't aside from Attila somewhat
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>>181060841

It's the mods.
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>>181059480
yes, but I was making a statement about the rampant degeneracy in this general.
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>>181061087
this tbqh, the best total war playthroughs I've ever had were in Third Age.
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>>181060841
It's literally the mods and just the mods. Game wouldn't be worth it other wise
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>>181060694
the overwhelming majority of sequels are exactly that, numbnuts
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>>181061357

Degeneracy, you say?
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>>181060890
>same basic gameplay
>implying TWW2 doesn't have the exact same gameplay
If the entire game is made already & your just adding units & maps then its an expansion.
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>>181060890
>>181062110
Most sequels always try and improve upon their engine to fix problems that cropped up in the first game.

Point to where Warhammer 2 is doing this? Oh wait, it can't have a new engine to fix anything that didn't work quite as planned because it's a fucking expansion designed to be played with the base game.
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>>181060532

Formations really change a lot compared to Attila

I might catch a lot of flak for saying this, but I genuinely think Attila has more variety than Warhammer simply because of troop mechanics.
Say you use a germanic tribe or early kingdom, you're unlikely to find tanky infantry but you will find strong cav and to some heavy cav and the possibility to raid structures to lower enemy morale, or shock infantry or gimmicky units.
But when faced against horse archers you have to rely a lot on your cav and your infantry can resist only to some extent the barrage of fire, especially the elite ones, the basic infantry is completely screwed.

If you play Romans instead your infantry can just turtle and wait for the horse archers to spend their ammo with next to no losses, or if you play sassanids your cavalry is so heavily armored (even their basic cav is a form of cataphract) that they mostly ignore projectiles but are slow even on the charge (why did they get rid of this improvement in Warhammer? They went back to Rome 2 charges where cavalry gets a speed boost that is the same for every type, in Attila cataphracts only get a small boost) but their infantry gets shredded by projectiles, so your whole playstyle changes, your infantry is just a support for cav charges instead of the meat for the anvil.

Warhammer with all their monsters, flying units and such completely lacks this aspect, I don't care if I'm facing a Varghulf or Chosen my tactic will be the same, kite and shoot and eventually both WILL die, even with such an extreme example like Chosen or ironbreakers, you don't change your strategy when facing them, at most you prioritise squishier targets but you can still kill them relatively easily because they can't just turtle in a formation that changes the whole dynamic of the unit.
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>>181061357
I don't think posting an occasional ERE-chan and unspoilered pictures of Grace's hair counts as "rampant degeneracy" desu.
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>>181062398
>Most sequels always try and improve upon their engine to fix problems that cropped up in the first game.

A good example is atilla vs rome 2.
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>>181062208
degeneracy said I
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I just can't get over Warhammer "artstyle". I know this is GW thing that CA just adopted but it is so bad.
I mean Empire, Bret, welves, helves, dwarfs are OK, greens and lizards are over the top but in a fun and creative way, necros are bad but I'd still accept that. But what the fuck is going on in anything chaos related, rats and especially delves?
Does anybody even paly dark elves in tabletop? Who the fuck finds it worth money and time. It's like high elves BUT everything is black and purple AND with spikes. That's literaly Coldsteel the Hedgeheg design.
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>>181062886
>what the fuck is going on in anything chaos related, rats
It's good, that's what going on.
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>>181062886

I admit dark elves are probably the worst design in Warhammer but i find rats to be ok, other than the most recent stuff like the verminlord.
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>>181062886
>complaining about 80's power metal covers
You're a 90's baby aren;t you, I am myself but show some respect to the elders
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>>181063164
I was born in the 80's.
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>>181062491
>If you play Romans instead your infantry can just turtle and wait for the horse archers to spend their ammo with next to no losses
literally dorf strat

>so your whole playstyle changes, your infantry is just a support for cav charges instead of the meat for the anvil.
literally bret strat

I mean you named 2 whole playstyles here to argue for the variety of shirts vs skins. VS things like vampires with not a single ranged unit at all who rely on attrition with massed shitty infantry wearing out the enemy and dark magic support with some fast cheap throwaway flyers to harass enemy ranged and keep them on their toes, severely outgunned gobbos with garbage morale that demand sneaky schemin and outplaying, ambush abuse and using the constant routs to your advantage. Fire on the move 360 degree arc hit and run glass cannon masters with ranged generals weird magic support cavalry.

>kite and shoot and eventually both WILL die
there is no exception to this ever in the history of games
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Why are maps with buildings to laggy in this game?

You can have two units on the map but panning over eats your frames like no tommorow
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>>181062491
>They went back to Rome 2 charges where cavalry gets a speed boost that is the same for every type
maybe they're still using the Rome 2 engine since they started work on it during it's development?
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>>181063260
then what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>181062886
>That's literaly Coldsteel the Hedgeheg design.
It's also literally the point. They're comically evil edgelords who do coke and rape slaves.
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>>181063539
Nothning I guess. I just can't stand shitty artstyle. Btw I'm not american so maybe that's the thing.
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>thought I'd send an army down to ravage Bretonnia, add some variety to my Chaos campaign
>maybe even distract the Bretonnians should they ally with the Empire
>Elves and Dukes declare war as soon as I arrive
>fucking PeePoos stalks me as well

T-Thanks, guys.
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>>181063704
>btw im not american
neither is warhammer
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>>181062886
Your opinion is incoherent. What exactly bothers you about specific races in Warhammer?

Also, most of this stuff came out in the 80s and 90s before internet edginess existed. Exaggerated gothic design didn't used to be considered crass. It's like complaining that Hamlet isn't written about America and Laertes and Hamlet don't duel it out with AKs. Different times.
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>>181063813
Oh OK. You learn something new everyday I guess.
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>>181063704
A lot of core warhammer designs were drawn by john blanche who is something of a legend, he basically defined the artstyle.
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>first time playing on Hard
>go Ghorst and play nice with Vlad
>Carsteins end up taking Stirland
>Averheim declares war on me so I take their shit
>Zhufbar fucked with me so I burned them
>Karak Kadrin fucked with me so I burned them

>chaos pillaging everything
>finally confederate with Vlad because he made the mistake of fucking with the Varg and their 4 army doomstack
>Manny available, Vlad and Isabella wounded but available soon
This is going surprisingly well. Minor empire states got buttfucked hard by Norscans and Chaos. Vamp Corruption fucked up the Norscans enough that Franz managed to break them. Chaos is still three armies strong though, not counting Morghur's army in Reikland right now.

I've been using almost nothing but Necromancers up until now so it feels weird to transition to all these LLs.
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Possible to use control scheme from rtw in rome 2?
can't stand using wasd for camera instead of as hotkeys
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>>181063905
Interesting. I grew up with Sword and Sorcerry gamebooks illustrated by him. Didn't know until now. Altough I didn't like the artstyle even back than.
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Were the tomb kangz black when they were alive?
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>>181064289
No.
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>>181064097
Where are your fliers, bro?

F R E E flanking
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>>181064289

Decide for yourself mang
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>>181064289
Why would they?
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>>181064289
Probably Arkhan, and Nagash.
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>>181064249
people like that its so busy and detailed and also pretty dark, but he also set the themes like checkers for orks and eldar runes and stuff.
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>>181064289
They were Egyptian. So they were Egyptian coloured.
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>>181064537

They're like undead egyptians.
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>>181063849
Edginess, exagerated gothic design, whatever you call it. High elves are like fantasy legions. But still legions, empire is just 16th century Europe with some fantasy shit throw in greenskins are comical barabrians I can get over it. But chaos stuff is just overdesigned "too cool for shcool" shit.
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>>181064610
>>181064637
Not black then.
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>>181064381
Got a terrorgheist and a couple of vargheist units in the Vampire Lord army Ghorst is traveling with. I went hard into Liber Necronomica early for badass ghost units, so I didn't tended to avoiding Blasphemous Bestiary units in favor of Ghouls and Skeletons. I usually use Dire Wolves or Cavalry instead of bats anyway.
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>>181065102
>so I didn't tended to avoiding Blasphemous Bestiary units
Wow goddamn I embarrassed my ancestors with how badly I butchered that sentence. What I meant to say was "so I've tended to avoid Blasphemous Bestiary units in favor of Ghouls and Skeletons."
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>>181065274
Bats are underrated imo, I never got much use out of ghouls my self and that's despite using crypt horrors in most of the armies I would field.
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is there a more satisfying thing in total war than charging archers with cavalry?
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>>181029640
Just think of all those brave US Marines and Japanese soldiers who fought and killed each other as young men out of coercion by the powers that be or some misguided sense of patriotic duty only for their memory to be desecrated by some sick, perverted fuck who draws scantily clad cartoon girls instead of holding a real job.
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>>181065684
Charging anything with minotaurs.
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>>181064637
>egyptians
Exactly. Why would they be black?
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>>181065897
it's what they died for
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>>181065897
>paints a cartoon pinup on a plane
>angry about a cartoon pinup from japan

They'd be fine with it.
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Magic users:
Meme frogs>Teclis>Everyone else

Fighters:
Sigmar>Grimgor's kick in the nuts>Archaon>everyone else

Is this correct?
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>>181064289
>Blacks
>Vampires
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>>181065897
I get that you have anti-anime autism but drawing hookers in the army is literally the #1 recruitment propaganda tactic of all time
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>>181066089
uhmmm, wrong sweetie
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>>181067110
I just want to play as Konrad. Fuck magic.
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>>181067260
Is it some kind of american meme? You should educate your niggers.
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>>181067203
>that face
oh god
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>>181064289
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>>181064289
>Vlad is from Tomb Kangz country
>was going to ask you if this man looks like he has ever been black

>then I realized Vlad is a walking Michael Jackson joke

Oh fuck.
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>>181066830
I'd say that's about right. Though Archaon might fit in both categories, even if I don't remember if he was said to be particularly impressive as a mage.
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>>181067394
>not knowing WE WUZ KANGZ
newfag
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>>181066830
Put crom above grimgor
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>>181067752
I've heard it. Just didn't pay much attention, because it's looks much like a joke. Are those people serious about it?
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>>181067270
>Fuck magic.
That's the attitude that led to him getting a NecroStroke, Anon.
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>>181065102
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>>181065603
This man speaks the truth. Bats are gross as fuck.

Cavalry do a different thing and I tend to think of ghouls as bats that can't fly; they can flank and deal damage but then get taken apart just the same as bats. Admittedly no leadership bonus unbuffed bats are crappy, but it's not as though it's hard to buff them up.

Isabelle also gives vargeists armour and charge bonuses. Which makes them pretty fucking good too.
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>>181067926
Hard to tell, people who spread it are probably in for gibs from guillable retards
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>>181067926
>he doesn't know about Kemet and Yakub
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>>181064759
>posts a greek
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>>181068067
Anyway he's cute. CUTE!
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>>181067819
Crom didn't defeat Grimgor though, the battle ended before that. Hell, Crom let Grimgor go and nobody dared stand in his way.
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>>181066830
Archaon only really wins there because he has cheaty chaos artifacts to win for him when he gets headbutted
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>>181067926
It's a joke that sprang up from people seriously thinking Egyptians (including Cleopatra, a Greek) and Carthaginians were black.
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>>181068308
And grimgor didn't defeat archaon, what's the point?
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>>181068882
Crom stopped fighting Grimgor because the battle was over. Archaon just got the crap kicked out of him and released a demon to save him in a moment of desperation. Not really the same thing.
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>>181063409
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>>181069967
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>>181030708
>China is undoubtedly the engineering and construction capital of the world
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>>181069967
What archers are those? If they are waywatchers that doesn't seem like a fair comparison to other archers
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>>181030708
[ching chong intensifies]
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>>181069967
>gromril hide
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>>181067926
basically lately blacks think all the important stuff that happened was their idea and white people are the devil who stole muh culture and achievements.
Like muh first president was black or MUH EGYPTIANS WUZ BLACK, hence the WE WUZ KANGZ
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>>181069967
>>181070562
I'm curious about the stats as well for the way watchers, particularly missile damage.
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SWIGGETY SWOOTY MR SKELLY'S COMIN FOR THAT BOOTY
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>>181071191

Standard waywatchers with no chevrons

>>181070562

The comparison is between the strongest tanky unit in the game with the cheapest roman infantry units against the strongest archer unit barrage in the game

I was very generous to warhammer, i could have picked empire spearmen
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Guys look, it's Imperial State Troops™ from Warhammer Fantasy™ killing a historyfag knight cosplayer.
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>>181071867
The hell are you talking about mate, that's obviously a bretonnian knight on a stick. The peasants put it down for a moment to go rest and the empire troops didn't realize it's just a skeleton.

Or maybe it's BECAUSE it's a skeleton. Nobody knows with these vampires around.
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>>181071854
Ironbreakers have high melee defence but they only have 35% missile block. Plus, they're against against a ranged unit that has a lot of AP compared to persian archers which have little AP.
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Do trade resources do anything without any trade going on in Total War: Warhammer?

That is, besides the building properties. Do untraded goods still give additional income at a low rate or extra growth or anything?
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>>181062609

>female skaven
>not locked away being breed for days

MUH LORE
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>>181072182

I'm not sure you're aware, but Attila units can switch ammo on the fly, you don't need to buy entirely different units because CA decided to inflate the unit rosters on the steam page.

Ironbreakers have 120 armor and a large hp pool, the only other unit would be chosen but then they are also much bigger, it might actually be worse even with that MASSIVE 15% extra block lol.
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>>181029485
I heard darthmod makes empire worse, i heard it even makes the AI worse

should i just play vanilla?
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>>181072841
T. Slav
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>>181072797
You heard wrong because you can't have worse AI than vanilla. With darthmod it can still sometimes derp out but at least for me it happened rarely, and all the stuff that gets added really makes empire a better game.
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>>181062208
>>181062609

moar
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>>181072484
If you have the correct building you can gain benefits regardless if you're trading with anyone, it's one of the reasons why W.Sylvania is required to be a money province for vamps, the goldmine in Drakenhoff is a major contributor to the province's income. That being said if the building doesn't provide income then you can only make money from a resource if you're exporting it.
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>>181064289

Its Arkhan the BLACK, not Arkhan the CAUCASIAN. Decide for yourself
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>>181073548
>Arkhan the CAUCASIAN
Can we make that into a thing?
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I haven't bought any of the DLC for warhammer because I feel that it is overpriced, but I will pay whatever price they ask for the inevitable KANGZ dlc. What's the soonest we can expect CA to add the tomb kings into Warhammer 2?
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>>181046085
Anything except Chaos is fine
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To fap or keep playing attila?

Im taking ginger tea so delaying the fap would give bigger boners
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>>181074167
kek
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>>181074167
Fuck you. Reroll
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>>181074167
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>>181072526

>15%

20%. Chosen have 55% block. Waywatchers don't miss nearly often enough for a slightly larger target to make up for that.
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>>181074227
what are you gonna fap with may I ask?
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>>181074458

I'll make the webm to prove you wrong tomorrow, I'm going to sleep.

I find it funny you're banking your argument on 1 unit in the entire game lol.
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>>181074486

bland SD (standard definition) vanilla porn
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>>181074607

Says the guy using the only tier 5 archer unit in the game, a unit designed to counter armor if it can stay at range.

How many other races can do something remotely similar to high tier infantry?
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>>181074486
>battleships are now sexualised in drawn pornography

that's got to be a first.
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Lads I really need that drawing of a Lizardmen going "blep" for reasons. Can anyone help me out?
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>>181072526
>but Attila units can switch ammo on the fly
wait so persain archers can switch to AP arrows? are they better than crossbows in attila? cause when I tested it with cross bows I got different results.
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>>181075026
>that's got to be a first.
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>>181074458

Not to mention chosen have something like 110 health per model to ironbreakers' what, 70?

A lot of ironbreakers' extra budget over longbeards goes into their explosives, not their overall defensive stats.
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>>181074624
What is wrong with you.
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>>181075026
if only that was the only thing the japs turned into a cute girl and sexualized...
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>>181075715
I don't know cephalopods have a charm all their own. If you thought your fap grip was good you need to try a sucker.
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>GCCM

Yeah, I'm never turning this mod off.
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>>181076003
Good luck with literally 90% of the villages being awkward choke point battles
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>>181072526

>High armor meaning anything against AP attacks.

Block is literally the only start that matters against AP missiles. An equal value of standard goblins would hold almost as well as those ironbreakers against waywatchers.
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>>181076003
Wait, what the fuck.
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>>181074139

If we compare the timeframe between launch and beastmen release, probably close to years end.
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>>181076168

A next to insignificant price to pay if it's mean I don't have to deal with vanilla sieges.
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>>181076168

>Implying awkward chokepoints is a negative when you're rocking CHOSEN
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>>181076003
Last time i gave it a go most of the maps didn't have designated reinforcement and retreat locations so reinforcements wouldn't arrive and routing units just stood still because they didn't know where to flee. I hope for your sake those things have been fixed
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I need to make this as cheap as possible and i want to finally buy Attila and Medieval 1, as they and Shogun 1 but i don't really care about it are the only Total War games I never played. Which dlc should i dump? I don't really care about minicampaigns like in The Last Roman. IIRC you guys were recommending Empires of Sand, anything else should i get? Are dlc like in Warhammer so stuff they add appear in game regardless if you own it or not?
>>181076003
Wait, what the fuck. I thought you can't make true sieges with walls, gates and towers in that map editor.
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>>181077015

That was the case for a while, but they apparently figured it out.
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>>181077015
I don't see the charlemagne dlc in there

buy charlemagne you slavic piece of shit, even if you don't like mini campaigns that's precisely the ONE mini campaign they did right
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>>181077015
for Attila get Empires of Sand and Charlemagne. the other factions are only necessary if you desperately want to play as Celts or whatever
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>>181077302
>>181077391
I-is this better now? Why are Empires of Sand so much better than other culture packs?
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>>181078372

buy longbeards goyim
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Should I convert to Tengriism as the Alans or is arian christianity better?
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>>181078372
If you're absolutely sure you want to play as vikings and you're absolutely sure you don't want to play as celts, long bearded germans or your kin then yeah it's perfect imo
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>>181079123

Arianism has the best buildings tbhq
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>>181079123
>Arian Christianity
Bonus to province conversion, buildings cost a shit ton of money to maintain

>Tengriism
Bonus to integrity (useless if you're not a horde) and religious buildings don't cost money or food, they also not provide public order bonuses

I'd say tengriism because it's a very frugal religion in the game but be careful with public order
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>>181029640
Indeedy-do.
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>>181079776
gentile.
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>>181076003
>implying the enemy AI has any chance of defending that map properly when they can barely handle regular sieges
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>DUDE how do we make this TW game challenging?
>hmm IDK let's just start the play off with one army that has less than 10 units and have them surrounded on all sides with multiple near full-stack armies immediately
>dude genius lmao
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>knock knock
I love the Mortis Engine.
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>>181079776
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>>181078774
>>181079327
I think I will get this. I should have salary shortly anyway so maybe I will be good goy and buy the rest if Attila is truly so good. For now i have to go to sleep. Good night /twg/
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>>181074607
I think I might try this right now
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>>181080437

Goodnight
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Sharp cheddar
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The eradication of the green mold progresses steadily.
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>>181059667
Are you using a mod? I've never seen norscans recruit horsemasters
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>>181081167
>undead looking down on anybody
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>>181082371
Baka gaijin
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I like TW WH but there's too many little annoyances that deter it from reaching great status.
>units running away early on in battle dragging your units with them to the end of the map if you aren't looking
>no basic friendly ai that could at least try to attack the nearest enemy if no other order is issued
>UI that doesn't feel like it was designed for humans at times
>some imba units like flyers (elf eagles break the game)
>some interactions between units on the battlefield are weird or buggy
etc.
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holy fuck what a shitshow mess
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>>181082682
they throw the ring straight into the Mt Doom
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>>181082541
>some imba units like flyers (elf eagles break the game)
u wot
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>>181082541
Only really annoying thing I've found so far is that flying units fucking elastic band back to any combat that any of the individual members are caught in. If one flier can't get away from a fight but the rest can then the rest will come back for the single fighter.

Which leads to situations when you attack a ranged unit in a hit-and-run, then when you order them to disengage and run away out of range of other ranged units they just hang around and get destroyed instead. Hate that shit. Lost so many bats to one fucking bat deciding to lose the battle for me.
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>>181069967
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>>181083205
>then the rest will come back for the single fighter
You don't leave your brothers-in-arms behind, fucko.

I agree though, it's annoying.
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>>181069967
>Sitting there alone, while they're shot down to the last dwarf
>Still don't rout
Fucking stupid shortarses.
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>>181083546
>not holding the line for the sake of the commander's autism
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>>181082682
>>181083195
You can test the eagle AI if you have that DLC very fast in a custom combat if you haven't seen it until now. Basically if they have Eagles and you send your own fliers to combat them, they will kite them until the end of time. This eliminates both flying units for the entire combat every time. Only on rare occasions they will stop at the end of the map and then fight. If you issue another order to your own fliers the Eagles will start attacking something in that very second. If you have no fliers their Eagles will shit on your troops and you can't do anything about it.
TL:DR Eagles are shit.
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>>181083875
HOLD THE LINE! THE COMMANDER HASN'T GIVEN ANY OTHER ORDERS! HOLD THE LINE TO THE LAST DWARF!
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>>181083754
>WH1 uses Rome 2 engine
>WH2 will use Attila engine
>WH3 will CA's TW mobile engine
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Last time I listen to you, /twg/.
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>>181083919
Are you perhaps a vamp player?
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>>181084275
not anyone's fault but your own that you have shit taste
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>>181084275
why don't you like it?
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>>181084226
Rome 1 engine.
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>>181084306
Yeah I've tested this with vamp units. Can't talk about the other races.
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I must not be any good.
Auto-battle wins this one so I figured, what the hell? No point in auto-battling through real fights, right?
Then I wipe.
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>>181074458
this is what I got when I did waywatchers vs chosen
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>>181082986
What mod are you playing?
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>>181084541
Auto-resolve is bullshit sometimes. This is one of those times, I don't see how can you possibly win that.
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>>181084463
if you're literally anyone else you can just shoot them, as vamps you can always use death magic to take em down if your flyers cant catch em
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>>181084724
Really? Is my comp shit? I figured I stacked shitloads of leadership buffs on my battlepriest and Gelt has +8 melee attack to all units in 40 meters. Plus an assload of magic.

What's a good chaos army comp? I want to fight these and I have the cash to do it.
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>>181084441

The combat looks terrible.

Performance is terrible.

Interesting time period, nice music and atmosphere though.
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>>181084980
>The combat looks terrible
what did he mean by this
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>>181085238

All warscape TWs have that
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>>181085238
literally what
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>>181084958
You need flying units to get rid of their artillery.
More artillery than them.
And cavalry.
Two Demigryph Halberd for their chariots
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>>181085470
truly gripping gameplay insight
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>>181084958
Against Chaos, Swordsmen just get deleted without putting up any resistance. Don't be afraid of making a line of greatswords or halberds - both are excellent in the end-game, and they'll hold just fine with Gelt.
Could use a couple of extra ranged units for focusing down the monsters.
Can't say much about artillery, but I'm pretty sure you don't need 4 mortars.
And you want more cav to hammer that hammer. Demimemes with Halberds rip apart practically everything Chaos can throw at you.
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>>181085661
I think he's talking about the fact that the units will *shuffle* into place in order to hit the other units?
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>>181085671
Yeah, mortars don't do much against large units like cavalry and anyone with 12 units per... unit.
I'll load up and try again later. I never got Gelt back to Altdorf recently to get halberds.
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>>181029485
Why are the Gallaeci in the ancient empire mod so shit


It's literally one if the most Celtic Celtiberian tribes and they don't even have any Gallic gear besides their clothing

Really burns me man


I was looking forward to some Celtiberia fun while being more celtic

Instead I have

WEAK
WEAK
WEAK

everything
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>playing total snore and not Paradox grand strategy games
Explain yourselves.
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>>181086503

>modern Paradox games

top kek
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>>181086503
>fast forward and wait for events: the genre
no thanks, /gsg/
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>>181086503

>playing video games
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>>181086565
>NOT PLAYING CK2

NECK YOURSELF

MY SUEBIC RECINQUISTA TO RETAKE THE HOLY LAND AND INVENT THE HAND GUN BY 900AD WILL HAPPEN
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>>181086503
The battles are better.
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>>181084719

Personal collection

It's a bunch of mods for combat, campaign AI, public order, unit packs, etc, but edited with the filepack manager to make them compatible

For example, the main three i use are those:

Better Aggressive Campaign AI 3.5 (google this one, it's on twcenter)
Better AI Recruitment (steam workshop)
Human Factor (in battles) (also workshop)
Guaranteed major factions (workshop)
ATTILA Battle System (workshop, but erased kv_morale and fatigue effects to make it compatable with human factor)
ATTILA Campaign Features (workshop, edited to make it compatible with Better Campaign AI 3.5, erased diplomacy and campaign AI parts, kept public order, civil war and corruption changes)

I use a bunch of unit mods too, mainly Kaziel reborn, agrez reskin packs, sebidee overhaul

I also use a startpos.esf that gives all of libya and nova carthago to Carthage, all of cyprus and cyrenaica to Egypt, all of Seleucid's satrapies are erased and given as territory to seleucid, also Parthia has more starting territory, it's from dresden but I erased all the other changes he did (It's from Hegemonia: Large Empires)
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>>181086503
>playing Paradox games after the shit they pulled recently

I liked Vicky 2 though
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>>181086503
I actually like EUIV a lot
Paradox games have more depth but TW games are way more exciting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0TgeD2VDo
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>>181084275
shit taste confirmed
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>>181084275
What are you a fantasidiot?
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Before the end of the summer perhaps?
Or more likely, never
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>>181087560

>end of the summer

More like end of summer 2027
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>>181085661
*shuffle shuffle shuffle*
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>>181087560
I just hope it's not like DeI, an unbalanced mess with shittier than shit performance with only nice visuals going for it
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So I just started Attila after not playing any Total Wars since Medieval 2. I'm playing as the Geats, how important is it to move to warmer climates?
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>>181084275
>he fell for the history meme
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>>181087560
Did you take a picture of the screen?
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>>181086503
>Always found civ lacking and barebones
>Decide to get into paradox autism
>Can get just fine into stellaris
>doing relatively fine in HOI IV with some exceptions
>Try to play EU for Nth time
>Look at the UI
>Get a panic attack
>Leave

I'll never be able to embrace map painting simulators to their fullest
>>
>tfw 20 good agents kill my supplies
>tfw I can't buy merc cav because merc pool is empty
>tfw enemy sally forth
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>>181087048
>recently

What did they do now?
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>>181087096
>80 hours

Is this supposed to impress me?
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>>181088748
Think they increased the base price of their games/DLC, but reversed it after the backlash
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>>181089596
I hope tww2 has more cool monsters like spidor. Ogres, griffons and dragons are cul but not THAT cul
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>>181089828
Ogres aren't in the game.
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>-21 corruption from characters, buildings, and local populace
>+2 corruption from events
>Trending towards 10%
Yes, I really love feeling like I'm not smiting evil in videogames. Thank you CA. How about I become NONE PURER? Huh? Did you think about that?
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>>181090109
>tfw no halflings to catapult their cooking pots full of hot soup at the enemy and ogres who will attack the halflings if they get too close
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>>181088362
Here anon, about half way down the thread I posted the EU3 guide I found.

It's better than EU4 anyway and the lot is ~$14 right now. Remember! Complete is not complete! Gotta buy the collection. It includes Divine wind, that's when you know you have it all.

Ctrl+F "Found them." to get to the first one.
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>>181089828
well lizardos have alll the dinosaurs.
high elves have dragons
dark elves have hydras

skaven have everything, pic related is one of 2,0000000 silly big things skaven have
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>>181090713
Dark Elves also have cold one cavalry.
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>>181091069
that's true but they aren't really the 'Big'cool monsters.
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Does the balance of power bar actually mean anything in a non auto-resolve situation? Can you still take a fight if you're outnumbered heavily? New to Warhammer still, haven't had too much success in hard battles so far.
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>>181088160
It's from their twitter.
But yeah the shit quality does look like a 2006 phone camera.

>>181087789
Yeah it probably will be.

They're also talking in the forums about working on an army splitting system to implement later on.
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...anybody wanna coop?
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>>181091729
You can win against larger armies if you're using better units, effective counters, terrain advantage, etc.
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>>181091729

i haven't played warhammer but the answer is always chainrouting and avoiding elite units by making them pointless or just delaying them
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>>181089596

I'm glad they did the spider meaty and not pointy, more like a crab

pointy real life spiders are uncanny as fuck
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>>181087560
>>181091778
holy shit, that graphics filter looks fucking awful
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>>181091778

>that income

why modders are retarded trying to reinvent the wheel
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Either I was outclassed or am shit
There was a unit of axemen that was getting stabbed at from both ends and yet still managed to be the last unit to route despite being the first into battle with like 60 guys left.
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All this recent Rome 2 posting make me want to take a break from my Bretonnia campaign. Any fun ideas and mods?
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Well fuck me that was close
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>>181030352
>greatest Olympic building ever erected.
Considering every single Olympic building is a economic disaster 100% of the time I dont see how thats a success in anything
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>it's a "Sassanid and their 1000 satrapies declare war the turn they discover you" espisode

Annnd that's another campaign fucked
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>>181095110
>declare war on the ERE before meeting the Sassanids
>take ERE territory and spam agent actions agaisnt them
>send gifts to the Sassy kids
>???
>defensive alliance, trade agreement and military access
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>>181090713
>he actually thinks we will get the hellpit when they didnt even bother with jabbers
My fucking sides
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>>181095446
charlemangled
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>>181094087
Are those pikes or spears? I can't tell, it's been a while.
Cause if it's spears then there's your answer.
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>>181095385
>reliable
>defensive
>religiously tolerent

you were lucky. In my game the sassanid leader is unreliable, agressive,and hates rival empires.
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>>181095620
>In my game the sassanid leader is unreliable, agressive,and hates rival empires.
Sounds like every TW player ever
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>>181095603
They are spears, and they didn't fare much better against hoplites either, so I'm pretty sure they're just trash units
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>>181095825
Yeah, axemen are gonna rip up defensive spearmen.
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>>181095094
Reminder that the Montreal stadium was paid off in 2013. They hosted the Olympics in 1976.
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>>181095094
the U.S. always does alright because we cheap out and use pre-existing structures and sell shittons of ad space.
>Let Paris have it this time. It'll be hilarious.
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>>181096185
>the U.S. always does alright
The US does the worse by far in terms of just stadiums, many times worse than Olympic ones. If you look at the money wasted by states and universities building stadiums is insane, billions thrown down the toilet and very few of them recovering their costs.
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>>181096185
The US has enough domestic sporting events to support a
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>>181095110
>it's a "the White Huns rampage through Sassy territory and leave an entire corner of the map empty and desolated before Attila is even fucking born" episode.

This consistently happens every campaign I play. I have never experienced a serious fight against the Sassanids because they are always an empty shell of an empire by the time I encounter them. What's weirder is that the White Hun armies are mostly comprised of eastern mercenaries and steppe spear troops, with only a few actual horse archers.
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>>181096780
Why can't cool shit like this happen in my games
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How badly RoR affects balance in fights between AI?
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>>181096561
see here>>181096563
Even my relatively small town has a pretty nice stadium for its AA Baseball team. Universities pay for stadiums with massive endowments and revenue from TV, Go Big U, Miami!!
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Daddy Vlad has declared that it is time to remove Chaos from premises.
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>>181046862
>confederate a whole bunch of shit in one turn
help
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Just did the errantry war. My god that was fun!
Got a Pyrrhic Victory. I brought Alberic and the fay enchantress with me as I thought their armies might help as reinforcements. They didnt instead I got a random battle pilgrims army.
I got a lot of nice screenshots i'm gonna post here
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>>181097636
Lady bless you brave Battle Pilgrim
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>>181097496
Ditch the peasants. from your new armies to get yourself back into profit from farms, then cull knights.
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>>181097496
>47 peasants recruited

Delete units, you need more knights
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>>181097802
Big bird has some nice fighting animations.
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Why Warhammer has the "phyrrhic victory" if that term is based on rome 2 timeframe?

fantasy fags btfo
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>>181097991
Why Warhammer is called Warhammer when warhammers were a real thing?

logic fags btfo
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>>181097971
The damn Chosen with Halberds were the hardest they tore through my peasants and dealt heavy casualties to my knights.
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>>181098168
>knights vs. polearm infantry
You know that cavalry count as Large, right?
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>>181094087
>19fps
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>>181097496
You've inherited entire stacks. Completely remove the ones far from your trouble spots. Disband peasants, build farms. You've got the cash.

By this time, you should have gotten a boost in your power ranking, try to leverage this and jew out money from other factions. Just double be careful about entering in to military alliances. This political jewgold should hedge you for a bit if you have armies that would be left severely vulnerable from peasant unit disbandment.
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>>181098328
>loading screen
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>>181098328

>fps on loading screen
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>Playing attila
>that fucking awful first 150 turns where you barely have any interesting units
>have to sacrifice between getting fun units, and getting the civic necessary to financially support them
>download instant research time for player and ai
>suddenly the game is infinitely better as you get to use a wide range of units, and so does the enemy

They need to scrap this unit system and put in one where you start with all units. Then just have it that you do techs/buildings that increase your logistically support for unit types. If you want to focus in on shock cav you do techs/buildings to make them better in certain stats/cheaper/faster to make.

HoI has a similar system. You can get late game units early game if you want, but you'll be logistically limited in how many you can afford to get. Over time though you can increase your logistic strength and mass produce them. This system of 'Welp no fun [unit type] for you until turn 75' is bullshit.
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>>181098308
Had to get them off my peasants. And My army was 3/4 Cavalry like any true Brettonian army should be.
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>>181098524
Or just play Warhammer :^)
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>>181098524

>getting any civic at all

get good
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>>181097923
>>181097821
>>181098419
i see
should how many archers should I keep in a typical bret army? I plan on taking on the best infantry and knights from each stack since they're close enough
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>>181098438
>>181098467
lol I'm not the one with the fps counter all the time, faggots
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>>181098694
I do, same problem, although not nearly as bad for sure because it actually has unique units.

>>181098696
Get smart
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>>181098950

>getting educated in the times of fucking Attila

lmaooo
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>>181098903
Your non-knight units are universally trash, except for maybe squires. The archers are only useful for softening up slow-moving weakly armored enemies, aka not too many things.
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>>181099313
>The archers are only useful for softening up slow-moving weakly armored enemies, aka not too many things.
>What is Poison
>>
Anyone know an easy faction to start with in rome 2?
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>>181098948
Blame nvidia and Gyazo
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>>181099424

rome is the easiest by far, if you are playing vanilla
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>>181098903
I personally like archers. They're really useful until the late game Chaos stacks where most of their units are armored. Keep them safe and focus their fire on one unit. Watch that HP drop. I managed to take down the Red Baron and another vampire general in the same battle this way, it really saved my ass.
I keep at least four, and have 3 units of the best infantry in front. Then the rest will be noble cav, don't bother with yeomen, they're shit. This is expensive, though. Make sure you level up your Lords to make that shit cheaper.
I good cheap army comp if you're dealing with incursions is a bunch of archers and shielded spearmen. But don't use this against any real threat.
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>>181099424

Bontus
>>
Do you guys have a battle you just can't forget?

Mine is a battle against pyrrhus with rome, in magna grecia, while playing rome 1 with the rome total realism mod

It was my first try with a mod, I just can't forget about it because the mod was so fucking good and the combat AI was superior.

blogpost
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How is Rome 2 Emperors Edition? Are there any necessary/recommended DLCs?
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>>181100179
First time using barbed javs burgundians pre nerf

nuff said really
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>>181100654
Vanilla's pretty basic but totally playable. If you've ready Ceasar's Gallic Wars you might find the DLC worth it. I like the campaign map for Hannibal at the Gates.

You should just take the base game and mod it with Divide et Impera, as well as a submod to speed up battles a tad.
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>>181100654
Attila
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>>181101156
ANCIENT EMPIRES WHEN REEEEEEEEEEE

>>181101114
oh, and the Ancient Empires mod for Rome 2 replaces the normal Grand Campaign map with the Imperator Augustus map, which is also pretty cool.
>>
Money
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>armée volante is what the French called a full cav army
>full cav is actually viable with Bretonnia
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How the fuck this guy knows me so well
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>>181102392
>spending so much time granting French/English names, titles, and backstories for veteran Bretonnian units.

I did not anticipate I'd have so much fun with this.
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>>181102534
Autism has common features
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>>181102534

>yfw this is the reason of why dawn of war is a failure and TWW is a success
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>>181099765
>>181099313
thanks for the tips, ended up extracting all the knights from the armies and putting them into this one
gonna make loads e dosh and upgrade the hell out of everything before considering a 2nd army for border safety
made nice with the empire since they wanted my juicy wine
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a moment of silence for da last waagh

My vh ork campaign was going very interestingly, for the first time beastmen are a threat, sarathoreal and 2 full beasty boys armies are hitting stonemine tower after defeating wurzag+waagh with beastmen ambush shenanigans

meanwhile arkoolon moseyed down and razed most of my northern settlements before being scared off by grimgor. Currently azhag and grimgor go to sack drackenhoff and wipe the vamps thus preventing chaos from destroying the settlements and putting chaos corruption everywhere.


Pic related is da last waagh, I cry erry time, the last element of my army against the beasty boys
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>>181103037
You're on your way. Get rid of those swordsmen-at-arms, they're trash and probably not even worth their small upkeep. Pikes or shielded spearmen if you must have men-at-arms. And more horsies.
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>>181103330
they're waaghing in the great waagh above now
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>>181103330
dey died how dey lived
a bunch of useless zoggin' gits
t. skarsnik
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>>181103037
the only worth while peasants are either on a horse, has a bow, both or operating a warmachine

everything else is trash. And even those peasants aren't necessary.
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Do I have a chance, teedubyagee?

Also what am I doing wrong with this army comp?
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>>181094087
Jesus christ just ditch those foot archers and use horse archers. They have worse range but they are fucking mounted aka fast so you can play hit and run as real Partha did you know.
Also ditch those sword units. Have some melee or spear cav instead.
Research cataphracts asap.
You are Partha not some celts.
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>>181103864

just do it
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>>181103864
Nothing particularly wrong, the other army was just made to destroy yours.

If I were you, I'd charge their lines with your horseman so that you draw their skirmishers away from their infantry and fuck up the spear chuckers. That's your only real threat.
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>>181103037
also pro tip

white knights are better against large things

blue knights are better against infantry.
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>>181101114

Alright, thanks.

>>181101156

I already own it.
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Which Bretonnia faction has the most fun start?
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>>181105030
None of them. Brets are boring as shit ez mode.

Great units, boring campaign. Doesnt matter which side you pick its literally just
>camp until turn 54 then freely confederate an empire
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>>181105030

The female one
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>>181105178
What if i don't want to confederate? What if i were to unite the dukedoms through war?
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>>181105316
It'll take even longer
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>>181105316
Most unchivalrous
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>>181103587
grimgor dissaproves


>>181105316
then you will get a whole slew of traits to match that, do it if you want to anon just prepare to be titled kingslayer
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>>181105469
>>181105316
Sounds more fun though. I really like the look of their units but honestly don't want to play a boring campaign.
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>>181104454
how's that?
blue knights just seem better in every way though
I probably should've mentioned i'm using steel faith mod
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wow, another shitshow
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>>181105672
meant to say white knights
and by white i mean knights of the realm
and by blue I'm assuming you mean Errant and not questing
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>>181105919
Not really, you only lost than 600 men.
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>>181106135

but the other armies were literally just javalineers and slingers, not even spearmen
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>>181105178
I disagree. The campaign's been pretty fun, and I didn't camp for 54 turns either. You have limited resources in the beginning,so you're under pressure to take the initiative and expand where you can.
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>>181105672
errant are trash so you can use them to tie up infantry to let your realm escape them.

questing knights have armor piercing and are better against hose elite infantry armored targets, since your other knights can only kill those targets on the charge.

generally your better off charging but the general idea is that grail knights and knights of the realm have an anti large bonus so use them against large things while the others are better at dealing with infantry to help the others, either pinning them in place to let others cycle out and in or just out right having that armor piercing.
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>>181105590
>>181105316
You cant. Every time you take a settlement by force that was Bret owned you lose a huge amount of chiv. You literally could not recover from the penalty.

You cant even trick the AI into fighting you because its based off taking their town, regardless of who declared war.
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So begin the biggest clusterfuck of a battle in Roma history.
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>>181107309
That's roughly what Cesar was dealing with.
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Why does the camera in TWW have to be so low? I can't see shit.
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>>181105919

lmao, rhodos landed a small army in magna grecia, just bought an army of mercenaries to finish them (they landed in forced march so they had big morale penalties)
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>>181106040
oh and yeah blue is errant and questing and white are realm and grail.
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>>181107645
The Dog Whispers?
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>>181107645
Yeah, but the map did not display that at all, my second army should have come on my flank. I'll probably redo it or auto resolve for fewer losses.
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>>181108396
Sorry meant that guy what destroyed the republic and then got stabbed like a bitch after dicking around in Gaul.
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JUST
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>>181108798
>not this shit again
>>
Nobody will ever know how these Arabs forces managed such a perfect outflanking in flat desertic terrain but they inflicting numerous losses that would undeniably slow down the progress of Aethiopia. It is a wounded second legion that will lick it's wound while going back into proper Republican territory to safeguard it against Epiros inevitable aggression
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>>181109082
>how did they flank me
looks like they have a lot of cav and like 2000 more troops than you lmao
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>>181108798
It's a bit odd they're throwing wood chopping axes when they should be throwing combat axes, right?
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>>181084686

Looking forward to seeing that dude never bring this up again.
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>all this R2 posting

I'm enjoying these campaigns fellas. Keep up the good work.
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This campaign is going extremely well

Massalia is going on a rampage and killing all north celts, i have a garrison army in the north

Was preparing to go against Dalmatae to complete Illyria, and then, Sparta declared war on me (they are allies with Athens), Macedonia hates me too, it's getting interesting
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>>181110592
This.
Rome 2 is underrated because people just say, "Play Attila instead".
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>>181111153
Well that and the terrible launch.
But still, with all the patches and good mods around now its a solid game and needs more love.
>>
>finally fight against chaos warriors as green skins
>they have almost 700 units while I have over 1300
>lose all my units and hero
how the fuck do I counter them? I was also getting destroyed by some weird vulture which I think was their hero
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>>181111604
Armor piercing and anti large if greenskins have them.
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1 Empire
2 Dwarfs
3 Bretonnia
4 Wood Elves
5 Greenskins
6 Vampire counts
7 Beastmen
8-0 Play Vandals in Attila instead
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>>181112330
Sucks to be you faget, enjoy being worst nomads.
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>>181111604
>>181111804
African American Orcs
Doom Diver / Rock Lobber
Spiders
Poison arrow night gob archers (only archers effective against Chaos as Greenskins)
Boar Big Uns (vs giants & shaggoths)
Boar Boys (vs marauders)
Giants (don't send them against hallberds or they'll get shredded to pieces)

Orcs units are pretty underpowered in general (especially VS armor and/or archers), and their upkeep isn't even low enough to justify that.
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>>181112330
>Forgot that i don't have Attila installed
Rerolling for something to do while i wait for it to finish loading
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Ah, so the R2 posting is CA lubing us up so we buy new DLC for their four year old game, eh?

Subtle bastards! :^)
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>>181111604
>>181112445
Alternatively,
>Play Bloody Hands
>Get every Savage Orc buff for Wurzag
>Rape everything with Savage Orc rapestacks
>Maybe a re-enforcing army with faggy gobo bitz
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>>181111604

Weird Vulture is a greater daemon of Tzeentch that acts as a lord. Anti-large the fuck out of it as it's near immune to missile fire.

You always want to lean heavy on high tier units against chaos in the campaign. Black Orcs backed up by trolls to fight the infantry, Some wolves / spiders to sneak around back and get the hellcannons (very important, these things are super strong) and as much anti-large as you can muster, both varieties of boar boy big uns have great use.

Big Waaagh is also fantastic as foot of gork is basically the only spell that will actually hurt a mass of chosen.
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First time playing Warhammer as the VCs, how long do I have to wait until I can either confederate Von Carstein? I had a NG pact with them but I broke it to annex them, won't let me declare war on them without a penalty

What should I do?
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>>181112693

Penalty goes away 10 turns after breaking your existing agreements with them.

Best way to confed them is let them do their own thing until Isabella spawns, then if you want to rush it, blitz them hard and siege their last base. They will agree to confederation right before they finish starving to death, generally.

Dead LLs transfer over to your control when you confederate now.
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>>181112693

If you are on Legendary/VH, you should mainly be focusing on maxing out your first two provinces which you can only do by taking Schwartzhafen. You should have just wiped them out as soon as possible. I can't remember how long you have to wait to avoid the penalty.
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>>181113061
>You should have just wiped them out as soon as possible

Yeah, I regret not doing it now, this is my first TW with NA pacts

>>181112992
>Penalty goes away 10 turns

I'm nearly at that anyway, cheers
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how much memory does Warhammer need for this to not happen?
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>>181113950
toggle on "unlimited memory".
>at your own risk
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History and fantasy living in harmony. except R2. You hurt me too bad.
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>b-baka, it's not like I like you or anything!
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>>181111604
You gotta get him to play Yu-gi-oh and stack level 2 cards that boost each other. If you don't draw wind up kitten or penguin soldier, you're fucked.
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>>181113950
>3D portholes.
Anon. There's your FPS problem.
>>181112607
Honestly. I would applaud them if they had some ass post a campaign on /twg/ of /vg/ of 4chan just in hopes of better sales.
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>>181114087
I did. It increases loading screen times to over 2 minutes which is fucking unbearable considering i prefer fighting most of the battles myself. Trying to figure out how much memory i should go and buy for this to not happen.
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>>181089420
>oy vey goyim fancy hats and "story modes" don't pay for themselves, and if you buy it you'll get access to a gamebreaking mechanic you can't really properly play the game without!

It's been 8 years since I started playing Paradicks games and in that time they went from "based indie company that charges fair prices for good content" to "company which thinks their customers are entitled for wanting non-broken content". It's sad to see it go this way. I also notice Johan doesn't seem to post on the forums anymore, I wonder if he's behind the jewing or if he's steadily been sidelined in the company. Wiz posts a lot and boy is he a huge faggot.
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>>181114390
How much ya got?
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>>181090550
EU3 isn't better than EU4 even with mods.
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>>181090167
Corruption is designed so you can never get 0% unless you wipe out Chaos/Vampires. If you have 21 anti-corruption and 2 corruption then 2 is roughly 10% of 21. So you get 10% corruption in your province. That's how it works.
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>>181113950
>AMD
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>>181088362
For christ's sake you know Paradox fucked up when someone says HOI4 is easy and EU4 is a panic attack
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>>181114685
It isn't that weird.
HoI3 was super easy as well. It just had the OOB autism.

Still fucking strange to think EU4 is much worse than it though.
>>
Hey /twg/, your normie chad friend enters your room right now, and ask what is that total war game about, what is so cool about it

What would you reply?
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>>181114920
I would show him how cool my hero: Prince of Macedon is.
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>>181114920
One of the few game series that allow you to slaughter muslims.
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>>181032248
Skaven are an "incentive" for people to buy both games. Skavenblight will be added for the Skaven faction in the Old World Campaign and Grand Campaign. If you own both games then you can play as Skaven/Skavenblight in the Old World campaign. If you don't, you can't but they still exist to dig holes under your cities.
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>>181114920
"I'm in the middle of playing fuck off"
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>>181074458
>>181074607

Here, I even made it against glade guards, hope you're satisfied.
When I play Warhammer I don't see an high armor high block unit and go "oh shit better avoid shooting them", unless there's a monster unit or a great weapon unit nearby I go "let me focus fire these high value fuckers" because they go down and because there is no reason to switch up tactics.

If I'm facing a monster, cavalry or infantry unit I do the same shit for all of them, shoot them, monsters and infantry don't really have different gameplay to them, they play pretty much the same, a testament of how bad game design is for Warhammer

>>181075327

Ironbreakers have 20 more models than chosen

>>181074948

Any armor piercing ranged unit would have done the same, only reason I didn't get starfire shaft is because dwarfs have magic resist but the result would have been still pretty similar, you're one little cunt aren't you, I even made this to make warhammer look better, I could have used the herculani who have 70% more health and a unit of crossbows and ANY gunpowder unit to rape the ironbreakers to make warhammer look worse.

>>181076172

Yes block is the only stat that matters, which is the reason why Warhammer is so one dimensional when it comes to this, there is no unit you go "wait let me switch up my tactics" because there is not formations, I can be facing chosen or empire swordsmen they will dire regardless.
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>>181114920
>having friends
>having normie friends
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>>181031732
Dubai isn't in Saudi Arabia
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>>181114920
Go away, I'm slaughtering infidels for Allah
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>>181114920
yo there's some big tittied elf sluts innawoods
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>>181085198
Probably talking about shitty animations and the mess Atilla is
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>>181063113
>verminlord
>recent
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>>181113950
Highest I've seen mine go is 4GiB VRAM usage, I'm using a 480 which I found a good price on -- though I've heard crypto miners are mucking up graphics card prices recently.
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>>181115982
Yes, do not buy a recent mid-range card. They're almost as expensive as a straight up 1080.
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>>181115128
>not showing the Chosyn's unit card
infuriating
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threadly reminder that this mod exists
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952084679

which gives trait descriptions of how you got said trait on all ingame traits(similiar to how the bret traits system works)

you will now know how your leader gains x trait.
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>>181116046
Ridiculous. Why aren't there just specialized crypto cruncher computers so these crypto nerds can stop impinging upon our gaming hardware markets?
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>>181088362
But EU is easier than HOI
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>>181116181
There are, but some cryptocurrencies are made to be difficult to use ASICs to mine them, I belive the current flavour of the month happens to be one of them
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>argayon the neverchosen and big bird attack my ll
>9 hellcannons between their two armies

why

>>181116172
One of the best mods for TWWH imo, thankfully CA will be doing this for all the new factions the same way they did for Brettonia in the sequel
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>>181116192
HOI4 is easier
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>>181116296
I don't think so
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>>181116387
Harder to learn, but the actual game is challenging persay
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>>181116192
>you mean I have to click AND drag an arrow??
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>dip into single digit negative income for 5 turns as Empire
>4 generals get "giving" trait for extra income loss in that time

Thanks CA
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>>181116291
BEYOND
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>>181116387
Each to their own, I never bothered to learn how to play HOI4 and I still manage to win by drawing arrows.
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>>181116291
>why

Because you're an asinine mortal that need to be taught a lesson
bring flyers
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>>181115128
>herculani who have 70% more health and a unit of crossbows
Please do
While you're at it, please do some random dwarf shielded unit with a runesmith and runelord spamming the damage resistance buff
>>
The only thing you need to win in EU4 is just knowing basic math

Can you calculate the percentage increase? good, then you will win
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>>181116291
>9 hellcannons

Not even the dead know peace from such evil
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>tfw last few turns of FotS campaign.
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>>181116902
iktf
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>>181116291
It will also be done for all the old factions too but only in the campaign map
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>>181116902
>Shizmazu
gotta use something like all wooden canoes and traditional armies for that to even approach being fair
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>>181117079
too engrossed to take any other shots than this, needless to say say 1 ship managed to run, 6 went to the bottom and 3 were captured.

The Warrior makes short work of any ship.
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>>181117482
its legendary republic.
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>>181112641
Do savage orcs rape? Do they have genitalia to rape? Who do they like to rape?
>>
What mods should I download for attila
>>
Why the fuck can't Grimgor get a boar or wyvern, goddamn. Infantry lords are fucking useless.
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>>181117680

They rape low armored state-troopers with efficiency, no hole left empty.
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>>181117787
>wyvern
You'll have nothing to back him up in the air so VC, empire, chaos and brett will kill him instantly.
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>>181117787

I wish he atleast would get supermass or some super charge resistance even while moving so that he can actually smack a horseriding empire lord instead of flying and stumbling around like a giant green hackysack.
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>>181115128
>monsters and infantry don't really have different gameplay to them, they play pretty much the same,
Not seeing it.
Monstrous infantry, maybe, but single monsters can do a lot of things that regular infantry can't at the expense of being a bigger target for missiles. They can take out lords much more efficiently, they can pull through infantry units without even needing a charge at times, they run around and cause havoc in enemy formations (inb4 hurr no formations) whilst causing fear and probably terror.
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>>181118016
Monsterous infantry plays very different to regular infantry imo
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>>181118098
Kinda, they're most useful when they're sitting in another infantry unit which is taking for them, unless they're minos in which case they're like cavalry that murders everything in sustained melee
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Different anon playing DEI as Rome. I went north rather than south in my campaign and am churning my way through barbars of all stripes.
The Gauls have been eassy pickings but now I'm at war with the Odryssians and they've built quite an empire and are turning out to be a more difficult enemy to fight in the field as well.

The Iceni also took over half of Gaul before I fucked them up and made them my client.
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>no high elf trailer yet
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>finally win the badlandsbowl
>prepare to invade the Empire
>Kislev has already destroyed most of it
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>playing as bretonnia
>my friends from Carcassonne need my help against pointy ear scum
>King Louen and his knights are cleansing the north
>make another army led by a some magic woman and a paladin
>march south to destroy the leaf-eating elven scum
>get ambushed by an army stacked by archers and fucking overgrown eagle shits
>mfw I realize I have no cavalry and only infantry against an army made of archers
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>want to play warhams
>dont want to play before norsca comes out
>Only option is wood elf mini campaign

I AM ANGRY ABOUT ELVES
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>>181118874
>bretonnia
>no cavalry
By zee Lady you deserve all your misfortune.
>>
>>181119138
When is it even coming out anyway? I'm on the edge between starting a new campaign or waiting for Norsca too.
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>>181119203

ʇoɯoɹɹoʍ
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>this was the final battle vs chaos
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Not so fast little chaos nigger
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There will be no peace. I'm gonna ground this fucker to dust.
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>Legendary Republic of Satsuma, with both my damyio and my heir surviving until the end.

after a week a failed tosa campaigns this one felt easy.
>>
>>181116745
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>>181120056
>tfw a moderately big faction declares war on you and you then take most of their settlements and they start to repeatedly ask for peace
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>>181076003
wtf
They actually changed it so it works as a siege now?

On one hand that's great but now we don't have the epicly huge gatehouse.
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>>181120372
They even started the war without any aggression on my part.
But I will use this as an excuse to annex the rest of the Balkans.

I am very bored with the settlement battles though. Talk about fucking grind.
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>>181030708
>>>/pol/131735252

no
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>>181120014
Honestly I see Varghulfs really differently now that I know they can be female.
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>>181120738
Well that was anticlimactic. The last Odryssian settlement taken by horsefuckers. And goddamn, look at this shit.
Both stacks are full of nothing but horse archers.
>>
Where did the greenskins come from?
>>
>>181121440
Mushrooms.
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>>181098525
>only 3/4
>true Bret
>>
>>181121440
South East, usually.
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wut

Never seen this before
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Was he the previous emperor or just some random schmuck? Why was the other guy so sad to see his corpse?
>>
>>181122135
wtf
i've just passed 500 hours and never seen that either
is this a new hidden feature?
>>
>>181122329
He was a good friend and a cunning warrior.
>>
>>181122329

Some noble or knight probably. And I don't know what you're talking about with the other guy, he barely emotes after the horse startles him.
>>
>>181122135
>>181122394
It's not hidden, it just needs a very specific set of circumstances. 95% of your games I bet Skull-takerz get destroyed in the first 3 turns.
>>
>>181122329
Idk who is he, but it's a model of demigryph knight.
>>
>>181122135
>>181122394


You don't see it because all minor factions end up destroyed or confederated
>>
Lads killl meeeeeeeeee
>>
>>181122614

No.
>>
>>181122521
>Chaos killing demi's

Unrealistic cutscene desu
>>
>>181120730

Some have actual gates, walls and towers now, though some still don't.
>>
>>181122721
Kholek can wreck demis though
>>
any update on medieval 3? or still just early alpha
>>
Man, Wood Elves are stressful as fuck in battles. Literal glass cannons. I miss my comfy Empire gun lines with stalwart frontlines and solid cavalry with the support of long range arty.

>>181120730
That floating wall triggers the fuck out of me. And how grass texture just bleeds through the wall without any sort of break between them. It's a case like with like 90% of workshop maps.
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>>181120730
The more i look at that picture the more it triggers me.
>Let's line the gatehouse with 2 small doors that are OUTSIDE THE FUCKING WALLS so the enemy has easier access to our ramparts
>Balconies with seemingly no way to access them
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>>181080228
They actually do it quite well. In the Nuln map they actually station men throughout the city so you have a running battle through the streets.
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We better be getting STUFF today.
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>>181124185
I thought the map maker put it the wrong way round but the other side has doors too (though half buried).
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>>181105030
The lady, why would you choose any other bretonnian faction?
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Just picked up Warhammer Total War and i'm loving it so far, but I seem to have some weird troop shadow bug when rotating the camera at certain angles?

Like troop shadows will vanish and be replaced with some shitty flickering artifact equivalent.

I've fucked around with the settings, but nothing seems to fix it.

Any ideas?
>>
>>181124776

I know what you're talking about but honestly have no idea on how to fix it.
>>
>>181046085
pussy
>>
>>181124776

It was a bug introduced with the Wood Elf DLC, is yet to be fixed (or even acknowledged as being broken), even CA's official videos have the problem.
>>
>>181123339
>large
>wrecking dedicated anti-everything

no?
>>
>>181124882
>>181125106

Alrighty thanks, hopefully they sort it out, aside from that i'm pretty amazed with how well optimized the game seems to be.
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NEW TRVE ROMAN BREAD
>>181126563
>>181126563
>>181126563
>>
Is Rome 2 worth getting as a first total war game
I'm not very good at strategy games
>>
>>181121440
Old one space ships probably
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