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Hey, could someone help me out here?
Everytime i go into the files for fallout new vegas and try to open the game manually by running one of the executables, i simply get pic related and cant continue.
Now, this might not sound like such a huge problem, but the thing is, this prevents NMM from functioning at all. Wich is kinda dissapointing.

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best enb?

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B U T T S

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I can't be the only one that feels that the more they mod their game the worse it gets, right?

I get the uneasy feeling that New Vegas isn't working like it should. Some mods are extremely reliable, but others make me worried.

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any armor recommendations that are similar to pic relater

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>>180968176
>>180968394

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bruised faces and untouched bodies desu

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>>180968176
Dat Ass!

>>180968094
Personally I'd try uninstalling and reinstalling, it's what has fixed issues of folders being locked for what ever fucking reason when I was trying to get an ENB running, gave up and went back to NMC's texture with a couple other mods.

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>>180968176

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>>180968847

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>>180968847
>>180968176

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>>180968394

>Obsidishit edition
fuck off this is where best fallout is discussed. go back to /v/ with your meme threads

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New Vegas edition calls for a New Vegas butt

>>180969267
Did you pre-order Creation Club yet? :) Can't wait for that mudcrab armor, huh guys? Anyone else with me?

BETHESDA!

BETHESDA!

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>>180967732
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13218225

>best girl
>a robot wins

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So I guess it turned out ok

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>>180969808
>best girl poll
>no nora
t r a s h

Fallout 4
Cons: Bearly a story, shitty weapons, shitty factions, perverted mods that only make women ass and breasts bigger, shitty power armor, shitty weapon crafting.

Pros: a few good characters, a build mode, good music.

Overall: I would rather play Sonic Boom then play Fallout 4 again.

Nth for when will pillory's be intractable

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>>180970010
>>180969808

>best girl
>no Moira Brown

First person view mod when?

>>180970419
never ever

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I will limit the pain i inflict, if possible

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I want to stop West Tek Goggles from spawning on enemies. If I delete this before I run the mod the first time this should break level list injection I think.

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>>180970236
Player can use them, if that's what you mean. There's a mod for it.

>>180968737
afteranightwithcait.png

>>180970583
No I mean, I want to be able to use the npc in them without the game freaking out or teleporting the npc out of them

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>>180968176
>>180968847
>>180969049
w h a t m o d s

>>180970121
>good music
If it's so good why did they recycle GNR songs? For what reason would they be so lazy for?

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Veronica repairing some damage ED-E has.

>>180968416
Yeah that's a bad feeling. I'm somewhat at that point, like I think AI behaviors might've been twerked a bit but it's hard to tell if it's from my doing of just general Gamebryo hijinks.

>>180968094
Can you run the game via steam?

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>>180970829

>>180968094
Stop using NMM.

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>>180970497
Now I understand. You are hiding because you fear death.

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>>180970914

For some reason talking to NPCs makes their weapons "flicker", as if their equipment had been changed. Talking to NCR Troopers rarely makes them stutter around in their movement while talking to me. Then there's my carry weight, health settings (JSawyer Ultimate) and necklaces options not working properly when loading a save, meaning I have to reload the save for everything to work correctly (or change it back and forth in MCM).

I don't like this shit. That's why I play with vanilla graphics, at least that makes me feel that everything looks right.

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I thought it wasn't possible

Just bought fallout new vegas with all dlc. Checking out mods because DAMN the game looks ugly.

>>180972176
what the fuck is this

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>>180968094
I get this with Skyrim sometimes, close out steam and whatever mod organizer youre using, start up steam then try again. Never had to reinstall to fix it

>>180972208
Op pastebin has some, I'm using New Vegas Redesigned 2 and liking it so far.

>>180972247
Proper skills,traits? And perks in fallout 4

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>>180972176
What the fuck am I looking at?

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http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/McDonough
>If one listens to the Mayor's second response to Piper being in the room, when he says NOT, his voice will sound slightly robotic with a louder tune. This is an early give away that he is a synth.
>http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:Fo4_McDonough_WillNotSpeakToPress.ogg

>>180972340
Yeah I'm currently checking it out so that I can get a graphical update to everything.

thank god for mods

>>180972445
Something they said couldn't be done, just like they said you couldn't do a couple things without their GECK and a week later someone had a mod out doing jus that.

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>>180972413
HOW? WHERE? DOWNLOAD NOW

>>180971006
That doesn't help
Don't you post noras at me
Or is that piper?
I can't tell

>>180972530
Or just get the vats information perk and vats everyone, anyone not in armor with a base 10 energy resistance, or 10 higher than their armor should give is a synth.

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>>180972570
WHERES THE DOWNLOAD YOU FUCKING FAGGOT NIGGER CHILD RAPIST?!?!?!?!

>>180972445
Skills and traits in fallout 4
>>180972578
Read the bottom right "fallout cascadia" gotta wait for that to be released but they will release it stand alone like the modded old school dialogue

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>>180970121
>shitty power armor, shitty weapon crafting

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>>180972682

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>>180972740
Aw fucking shit, that fucking shit will never release

>>180972934
I'm certain they will release it as a modders resource like they said they would if cascadia goes under

>>180972720
that's a m y t h

>>180972816
I still can't tell if it's nora or piper
Also i know that's the b&b suit, what about the other one?

>>180972812
who said it was bait?

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>>180967732
why is starlight drive in so comfy?

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>>180972530
>this doesn't happen with any other synth

>>180972569
Yeah, I've done what I can but I have to use a laptop for work reasons and my old one that was a "gaming" laptop bricked. Best I could manage at the time was one with an i5

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>hanging out with my settler bros
>someone mentions they saw some raiders near by
>packing my gear to go check it out
>Cait and I wearing our casual stuff
>she starts changing into her traveling gear
>right in front of me
I couldn't focus for the rest of the day.

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>>180973247

>>180973239
Well since I played on console it could be different or they patched it out. It used to work because the guy you meet in the waste having a stand off with himself had it and so did the Mayor.

>>180973367
Woops forgot to filter cait again

>>180973490
it sounds like that's a simple task, but you mention forgetting it a lot. Are you ok anon?

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>>180973249
Starlight being best, psh build all that in Vault 88 son

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>>180968146
I've been using decent plus, seems to be the real vision equiv of fo4

>>180973490
Kek

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>>180973613
but i don't belong in a vault.

>>180973464
https://youtu.be/fwdWK4hXYxo?t=584
9:44

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>>180973240
They're the same thing. B&B is just a recolor of the GITS suit.

>>180974006
Oh i see
Thanks

>>180973923
>Did it with Sturges
>Not a comparison with random settlers and settler synths
With this top tier investigation abilities Nat is Piper's daughter

>>180973923
Cool man, like I said USED to or it could be just those two for some reason.

>>180973587
No, haven't been getting sleep lately

>>180973725
Just turn Vault 88 into Cozy Town USA

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>>180972176
Fucking keked

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How come the best waifu isn't even a companion?

>>180974931
because she's already a follower

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>>180974931
>Literal potato NPCs
Why do you fags like New Vegas again?

Am i the only on using Settlement keyword and can't access contraption workshop crafts?

>>180975258
That's what you get for using settlement keywords.

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>>180972176
I HAVE A MIGHTY NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

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>>180975008

cheeki

>>180975189

Because it's the best RPG.

And despite superior technology, Piper is ugly as sin.

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>>180975189
writing is like so fuggin deep man

First time playing FNV on pc what are the must have mods for visual and performance? can't read the pastebin at this moment.

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>>180975590
>that fucking hairy lip

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>>180975460
>posts horrendous potatofaced creature with hair that's barely attached
>calls piper hideous
Opinion disreguarded

>>180975701
4gb patch, jsawyer, Nevada skies

>>180975701

Realistic Wasteland Lighting Enhancement.

http://modgames.net/load/fallout_new_vegas/gejmplej/realistic_wasteland_lighting_enhancement/92-1-0-19779

http://www.playground.ru/files/fallout_new_vegas_realistic_wasteland_lighting_enhancement_0_9-99976/

>>180975189
The look of the npcs is pretty low on my list of priorities

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>>180973674

>>180976979
This. Nice to see some people don't just play to jack it to waifus.

>>180974682
tbf i would bother if they let me build a cozy exterior vault trading post
But they don't so I have no interest, at least not right now.
Maybe later it'll be a super seekret minuteman stash or something

>>180973249
I love it but its way too remote. Such a slog to run there.

>>180975189
>muh muh grapix
Why do you like Bethesda again?

>>180977376
But you can build a vault outside...

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It took a lot of procedures to give my waifu the body she wanted, to make her appearance match the way she sees herself. But she's happy now, and if she's happy I'm happy.

STILL

CAN'T

ROMANCE

HER

THOUGH


>>180975008
highly underrated post

>>180976979
>>180977341
Plus there's the classic Bethesda motto

MODS WILL FIX IT

>>180977453
Maybe it's because Ive spent most of my game up north but it really seems like a hub, at least for my northwestern settlements (the only ones I've really bothered with)
I also just sent all the settlers that went to places I cleared for minutemen wuests back there, so it grew fast

Getting ready to upgrade Curie again but I'm having trouble finding a good chest piece. Trying to cobble one together in outfit studio but its hard to find quality parts.

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>>180978142
Anon, synths are abominations and there is no reason to upgrade Currie. I bet you like Syrian refugees and Somali migrants coming to your country too.

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>>180978370

>>180978595
Synths are abominations and you like third-world immigration.

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>mfw the clothing all sucks in 4 and the most of the mods are stupid sci-fi skintight jumpsuits that look like they were rupped from Mass Effect

http://blog.wilshipley.com/2011/01/why-i-hate-new-vegas.html

NVFAGS BTFO ONCE MORE
(install another ENB nvfags I'm sure that'll make the game better~)

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This thing comes up and stings your waifu. What are you gonna do?

>>180980732
Why would it sting itself?

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I WANT A FALLOUT GAME THAT DOESN'T NEED MODS TO BE GOOD, GOD DAMMIT.

Is that too much to ask? Hell, I'd rather have Fallout games that are unmoddable (except for bug fixes and other menial tweaks).

>>180980727
Shilling your blog doesn't BTFO of anyone, Betheshitter.

>>180980796
You sir, need to go see a doctor.

>>180980732
My waifu is made of metal, and therefore immune to wooziness.

>>180980930
>your blog
I do have one, but it's not a google blogspot one lmao

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>>180980856
...so play Fallout with only bugfix mods?????

>>180981129
Whatever you say, Wil.

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>>180980727

My TL;DR from when this shit was posted to Reddit.

"Holy crap, I just read through it all. My favorite parts are definitely:

- I don't like reading or worldbuilding.
- I want every quest spoonfed to me.
- But I think the game can be played on autopilot.
- I complain about Doc Mitchell not telling me about his life, but then I complain about NPCs telling me about their boring lives.
- I want the game to spoonfed me the different NPCs so I can filter out the ones I don't like.
- I don't like NPCs with dubious morality.
- I don't like faction reputation changes (even though these will later explain why I'm being shot on sight)

The only things I actually agree with:

- Sunset Sarsaparrilla Star bottlecaps being crap and locations being used as an excuse to have them, which ties in with New Vegas being limited in the exploration department.

Everything else explains why this guy liked Fallout 3 so much."

>>180972176
>Functioning vehicle mods
>This plus actual fucking dialogue

Will fallout 4 be playable as a Fallout game before 2020?

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I FOUND ONE!

>>180976697
>>180976821
no weapon mods or any of that stuff?

>>180980856

>poor console baby

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>>180967732
any suggestions on what I should use to fill the white space?

>>180980727
>>180981327
>It's also not fun doing quests for people of dubious morality. Sure, this may be more like real life, but it isn't "fun." I did several missions for a fascist government agent before she revealed herself by asking me to do something horrible. I'm like, uh, no thanks, and THANK YOU game designers for making me spend all that time on a person who sucked. Worse, I actually liked the faction she represented, I just didn't like her – but there was no working around her, she was in charge, so I had to abandon a group I'd spent most of the game trying to help. Whoopsie! There goes my emotional connection to the game! If this were an exception it'd be interesting, but it's the rule in New Vegas.

This guy sounds a little stupid desu

>>180981510
giant mudcrab arms/whatever mounted animal bits you think look good.

change the lights for the floodlights (I think that's the one) point the light in a single direction and aim them at the flags.

>>180981138

That doesn't fix the underlying issues of making a game with a shitty engine meant for people to mod it.

It's like these games are made especially mediocre in almost every way because Bethesda knew modders would "fix it".

>>180981327
>remembering a 6 year old reddit post you made
NVfags are truly this desperate huh

>>180981429
That's all you, browse the nexus.

>>180981773
Most NVfags are at NMA where we should be, your Bethesfags have Reddit and /fog/ all to yourselves.

>>180981712
So don't play the game, or play the game with only bug fixes. Don't know what else to tell you.

>>180981524
>No counter argument just "he's stupid"
KEK

>>180981878
>wahhh wahhh where's our safe space wahhh wahhh

>>180981937
>I hate doing things for fascist governments
>I hate this fascist
>I like this fascist government
>now I'm leaving this group I hate
>I hate I'm literally BEING HELD AT GUNPOINT TO PLAY THIS NAZI GAME

What's there to counter? His argument is "I DON'T LIKE IT!"

>>180981937
I just told you where our safespace is. Doesn't stop me from coming here you rile you guys up for liking a game you don't like.

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>>180981429

Weapons of the New Millenia, but if you care about balance in your game you won't install it.

>>180981524

He doesn't only sound stupid, he is just plain retarded. It's like people can't criticize New Vegas without making fools out of themselves.

Pic related, my own Reddit reply showing what legitimate criticism looks like. Though at a glance there are some things I no longer agree with, and I would simply drop the score from 9 to 7.

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>>180981712
>>180981712
>it's like these games are made especially mediocre in almost every way because Bethesda knew modders would "fix it".

e.g. unofficial _____ patch

>>180981510
some vertical flags
and or make the flags you already put there bigger

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>>180981773

Actually it is from 9 months ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/54jj5f/just_to_balance_things_out_im_linking_a_fairly/

And I have good long term memory, I'll let you know.

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>>180982369

It's even MORE annoying because an unofficial patch is just that: unofficial. Which means only a handful of modders forward the fixes into their own mods. And because these unofficial patches are constantly remaking themselves, as opposed to a handful of very nice "complete" official patches, you still have to forward fixes yourself.

What a load of bullshit.

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>>180978142
Anon, please tell me you're going to archive these somewhere when you're done. I need them...for research purposes.

what is a good planter mod?

I don't have any dlc

>>180982709
Somehow I don't think you'd be fine with unmoddable Fallout games if you need to see your PC wearing a few strips of leather and camo pannties.

>>180982838
P I R A T E
I
R
A
T
E

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>>180982839

I don't need to see my PC wearing camo panties, I only mod them in because the mod exists.

What I need to see are good features implemented from the beginning, free from compatibility issues and bugs.

>>180983206
Okay well you're never going to get that with Bethesda so I don't really know what you're complaining about.

Might as well complain that life is almost nothing but suffering.

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>>180982784
I probably should have been, huh?

>>180983401
I wish I could have provided you with my cyborg mod, but alas it got deleted when I was cleaning up my desktop.

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>>180983029

everything I find looks sketchy as fuck or they've been taken down

>>180983823
Skidrow Codex.

>nothing but consolefags
>everyone has vanilla UI/HUD
>no one using ultra difficulty mods that force you to play well or be punished


How come there aren't any turboautists streaming this game?

>>180985185
People in this general don't actually play the game. They take screenshots of "waifus" and post them here for (You)s.

>>180985185
>How come there aren't any turboautists streaming this game?

you missed the boat, people only want to see the newest thing on streams and this game is old news

you could mod this game to kingdom come and it'll still be teh same shit people saw a year ago, not much will have changed

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>>180981650
good idea, how's the lighting now?

>>180982394
I don't seem to have any vertical flags, and i'm unable to make these bigger. I couldn't find many other posters I'd like to stick on it so this will have to do for now.

I'm not sure if this is a stupid question or something that is listed among the pastebins: Is there a way to make body replacement mods just affect the player character and not NPCs? Fallout 4.

>>180986010
Looks pretty good so far, lot less empty space. I like the idea of the bounties hanging out of the deathclaws mouth.

why do ghouls spend so much time holed up underground and shit?

they're immune to radiation and their tough as nails, wouldn't they make great scavengers?

raiders wear plenty of masks, why don't they follow suit?

>>180977920
Agreed, it's probably the best location to be used as a hub to connect settlements in the north to the ones in the city.

>>180986595
People tend to shoot both on sight.

>>180978370
You know, the robofucker resistance to upgrading Curie has confirmed for me one thing, and I find it hilarious.

Y'all like robots because they can't say no to you. You refuse to grant Curie's request because you fear that once she's in what is essentially a human body, she'll be able to say No and turn you down.

I find that incredibly pathetic but also hilarious.

Keep on keepin' on robofuckers.

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>>180986274
Yes, it's possible. Its on the nexus if you search "unique player". I use it, it works great.

>>180986735
Except that's completely destroyed when you see random ghouls walking like it's nothing and Hancock being a fucking MAYOR of a settlement in the middle of downtown Boston.

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>>180986819

>fallout
>Y'all like robots because they can't say no to you

and? human curie can say no to but that won't stop me

>>180986819
I'm not attracted to video game characters. Synths are abominations and need to be destroyed in the context of Fallout 4.

>>180986941
Did you forget the part where the settlement he leads is SPECIFICALLY welcoming to the dregs of post-apocalyptic society, including ghouls?

>>180986851
This is a gril right?

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>>180986819
I like Cait because it's me who can't say no to her.

>>180987290
mhm. hella qt

>be ghoul
>be completely ignored by ferals
>get together with other ghouls who are in it for the caps
>offer smoothskins a solution to their feral problem, caps up front no haggling
>go through subways with a nailgun, executing ferals no problem
>probably get betrayed and evicted from your comfy new digs anyway because smoothskins

Always bothered me that this utterly logical solution to the feral ghoul problem has never been explored. You can't tell me there aren't some crusty old ghouls who'd see the opportunity in this.

>>180987149
No you just give Curie her synth designation code so basically her body stops functioning till her turn her back on.

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>>180987456

or just rape her

>>180987235
But you said people shoot ghouls on sight so they stay underground. These ghouls are not shot on sight, nor do they live underground.

That's not even mentioning the random ghouls you see wandering the wastes like they have no idea how dangerous it is. There are even more feral ghouls than regular ghouls. Seems like nobody really gives a shit about either of them unless the story needs them to.

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>>180986819
Why is that your reasoning?
You sure it isn't something else?

>>180987656
>you
wasn't me, I was just pointing out that Hancock isn't the leader of Bunker Hill or Diamond city.
Also
>implying everyone shoots ghouls on sight

>>180987443
Smoothskins don't like interacting with ghouls. Also ghouls live with ferals so I think they hold them to a higher standard than they do smoothskins, the ferals are like their family and shit but they just gone feral.

>>180987997
If not everybody shoots ghouls on sight that only tells me ghouls really have no reason to be hiding. If anything raiders and ferals should be hiding, but they're both plentiful.

>>180988035
>tfw ghouls are basically black people in a social context

>>180988137

black people don't hide underground, they congregate on stoops

>>180988106
Ferals aren't the smartest. They are pests basically.
They just go wherever and they aren't disposed of because nobody wants to deal with them and get killed.
They don't need to hide as much because their presence is enough of a deterrent.
What exactly are you trying to get at...?

>>180988106
You are literally autistic and unable to comprehend nuance.
>if not everyone shoots ghouls on sight, they shouldn't hide because nobody will shoot them on sight
>if most people shoot ghouls on sight it doesn't make sense that 3% of the ghouls you see aren't shot on sight (non ferals)
>if anything raiders (literally the most believable common enemy) should be rare and in hiding despite there being no Minutemen to keep them back

>>180988180
>tfw you don't know what social context means so you just make yourself seem dumber by taking it in a literal one
nice.

>>180988137
Except ghouls happen to be exactly like humans except in appearance unless they go feral or glowing.

Black people and white people are both physically and culturally different.

>>180987656
in fallout 3 with the more relaxed Bos they shot ghouls from the history museum on sight. followers however were not. wish they did more of what they do with dance after the bos discover he is a synth they become hostile if he is your follower.

>>180988446
>humans with their skin literally radiation melted off and able to survive without any concrete sustenance for hundreds of years are physically the same as their human compatriots with none of the above traits.

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Mama Murphy has got it going on, she's all I want, and I've waited for so long. So Marcy Long baby cant you see, that I'm in love with Mama Murphy!

>>180988415
>You are literally autistic

>>180988035
They don't like ghouls, but I know they dislike being ripped to shreds by ferals even more. And with all the shady ghoul characters in the Fallout series you'd think at least a few would be unscrupulous and detached enough to waste ferals for money.

>>180988415
>y-you're autistic
The classic response that makes absolutely no sense.

I'm just saying Bethesda took one look at FO1, saw undergound Ghouls at Necropolis and thought: yup, this is basically what they all do.

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Anyone got a DL link to Buffscale's hats mod?

>>180988628
>>180988636
>ignoring the greentext to focus on one line of black text
L I T E R A L L Y

>>180988710
>literally autistic

>>180988535
Damn, Mama used to look like THAT?

>back in the day, they used to call me murphy the madwoman

>>180988523
Ghouls aren't a different species or race of human being. They however WOULD be if Bethesda didn't retcon what FEV did to them.

>>180988749
Lore wise she was supposed to be black.

>>180988748
>literally

>>180988770
so... What if the ghoul was a black man pre-war? this doesn't make sense.

>>180988851
>autistic

>>180988907
at least I don't think FO4 is a good game.

>>180988851
>so... What if the ghoul was a black man pre-war? this doesn't make sense.

What?

>>180989045
>>180988446


"Except ghouls happen to be exactly like humans except in appearance unless they go feral or glowing.

Black people and white people are both physically and culturally different."
So what if the ghoul was a black dude?
What about the chinese ghoul?
Or did you reply to my reply without looking at what the context was?

>>180988770
you could argue they are a divergent species they are biologically divergent of humans a homo novus

>>180989150
A black person is for all intents and purposes a human being, I don't know what or why you're fucking confused. A ghoul is a human being, but heavily irradiated.

>>180989164
How could you argue that if you don't even know their genetic makeup? If they were caused by FEV (which Bethesda has essentially thrown out for whatever reason) you could argue they're a different species altogether, but they're not.

>>180989036
>muh FO4

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>>180986010
Do you not have settlement item mods? It's one of the popular ones that add pic related, I'm sure.

To make them bigger you'd need Place Everywhere and hit 3 on the numpad (1 to shrink)

>>180988770
>Ghouls aren't a different species or race of human being.
Except that they are and are treated as such. They're mutants.

>>180989447
So is someone with down syndrome a different species? Might be treated as such, but just because you treat a dog like a cat doesn't mean it's not a dog.

A person with a mutation isn't NOT a person.

>>180989378
they are genetically mutated and can not reproduce with non ghoulified humans or ghoulfied ones as far as I know. that's a cut and dry definition of a separate species

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>>180972530
wait, which line? what the fuck.
thats fucking fucked

>>180989558
The same way a synth is still a person, they're just synthetic. Again, they're not human but that doesn't mean they aren't people too.

>>180989615
>they are genetically mutated and can not reproduce with non ghoulified humans or ghoulfied ones as far as I know

That doesn't mean they're a different species, if anything that should tell you the radiation made them sterile since they also can't reproduce with each other.

Again, they're the result of radiation, not FEV. If they were made with FEV, they would be different species. Super Mutants are different species since they've been put through Forced Evolution.

>>180989378

I made the claim that ghouls were treated the same socially as black people, are you sure you're replying to the right anon?

>>180989863
A person is a human being, a synth is not a human being therefore it's not a person. It's impossible to tell if synths even experience anything or have free-will.

>>180989926
>I made the claim that ghouls were treated the same socially as black people, are you sure you're replying to the right anon?

And I told you black people are treated differently because they're different from white people.

>muh downtrodden black people

They're not exactly the victims. But let's not even get into this because it has nothing to do with Fallout.

>>180990073
>A person is a human being
A person is anyone that displays personhood, individual identity.

>>180990073
>going full /pol/ because of your political feelings on a truthful statement.
lmao, go get triggered by far cry 5 or something, ghouls are treated like blacks because the look, talk, and act differently (non ferals), so the tend to congregate together for protection and familiarity.
You know, like minority groups in the US, including blacks?

>>180990073
>And I told you ghouls are treated differently because they're different from humans.

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>>180990224
It doesn't help to be changing the definitions of already established words.

>>180990256
>I'm a racist because I said black people are different than white people
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>ghouls are treated like blacks because the look, talk, and act differently (non ferals), so the tend to congregate together for protection and familiarity.
Okay? Where am I disputing this?

>You know, like minority groups in the US, including blacks?
Okay?

I'm saying Ghouls have no real reason to be hated, but black people aren't exactly victims void of any guilt on their part. We're talking about reality and real people.

>>180990373
Yeah, ghouls are treated differently because they're different. Doesn't mean they're a different species.

>>180990521
>It doesn't help to be changing the definitions of already established words.
Then you should look up the definition as that's it.

>>180990651
See, I just posted the definition and you're still covering your eyes and ears. By your logic since a dog can be an individual entity it's a person.

>>180990521
>you're racist
nope, /pol/ doesn't have to be racist, just politically charged.
So what the fuck are you even talking about? Feeling guilty?
>where am I disputing this?
You're trying to make this into a politically charged discussion on your own prejudices instead of admitting it's true.
>Aren't exactly victims
And ghouls aren't exactly pure victims either... So doesn't that make my point even stronger?

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>>180990828
>You're trying to make this into a politically charged discussion
Can't fucking believe people like you sometimes. You're the fucking one doing that by saying ghouls are essentially the black people of fallout and you didn't even explain your reasoning.

I take it you'd say this because you view black people (probably in America) as victims of racism which is obviously true, but I'm telling you the problem isn't black and white. It's grey. Black people are just as racist as white people, and black people happen to commit more violent crime than white people despite being 13% of the population.

I didn't want to have this conversation but I have to clarify what I mean because people like you are quick to shout RACISM!

>And ghouls aren't exactly pure victims either... So doesn't that make my point even stronger?
What do ghouls do that is so victimizing to others that's exclusive to them?

>inb4 turn into ferals

They can't help that.

>>180991118
>essentially
I said they were treated the same socially, which is true. Are you disputing this or are you going off on a tangent about how that social treatment is "deserved" or "not"?
I'm not going to read the rest of your reply.

>>180991179
>I said they were treated the same socially, which is true.
You've yet to say why this is true.

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>>180990828
>curious why ghouls aren't professional scavers
>ask /fog/
>this /pol/ shit happens

i'm sorry ;_;

>>180991237
see
>>180990521
"ghouls are treated like blacks because the look, talk, and act differently (non ferals), so the tend to congregate together for protection and familiarity.
Okay? Where am I disputing this?"

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>>180990778
Not covering anything

>>180991297
It's okay anon, I really shouldn't have attempted to have a mature social discussion on /vg/ anyway.
Atleast now we can safely say that ghouls are niggers.

anyone in this thread smoke weed

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>>180991448
this entire thread is smoked weed

>>180991179
>being treated different /=/ treated the same socially as black
Fuck you are absolutely retarded.

I thought that post said "ghouls are treated different because they look, talk and act differently." I want YOU to explain how ghouls are treated in the context of Fallout and tell me how black people are treated in real-world context.

>>180991297
>this /pol/ shit happens
Because someone is comparing fictional zombies to real-world problems faced by black people and I'm disputing that, so that makes me a racist.

And apparently I'm also a racist because cultures happen to be different. Yep, makes sense buddy.

>>180991409
You're not having a mature conversation, you're saying ghouls are the black people of Fallout, saying it's true and then NOT fucking explaining why it's true while you call others disputing your absolute BS racist.

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>you will never be a ghoul

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Oi!

>>180991581
>you mis-read post
>I'm the retarded one

>I want YOU to explain how ghouls are treated in the context of Fallout
Like social outcasts
>how black people are treated in the real world context
unless they look like they have money or a sports contract, like social outcasts.

The exception to this being by other members of their respective social groups. Would you like to actually look into this yourself and make your own observations or should the "absolute retard" continue spoonfeeding your super smart ass?

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>>180991845
Is that right?

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>pirate nuka world
>mod does this
>start at (1/2)
>stopped installing
>try to install again
>went (2/3)
>then stopped again
>tried installing again

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>>180991854

>>180991882
>Like social outcasts
HOW are they social outcasts? HOW? Explain HOW they are. Do you know what the word HOW is?

HOW are black people treated in the real world?

HOW are ghouls treated in Fallout?

Why is it the same? Fucking Christ.

>going gay for maccready and hancock just so a few more settlements can give the lover's embrace bonus on survival

Post shameful things you've done and would do again

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I think calling ghouls "the black people of Fallout" is excessive.

More like "the muslims of Fallout", as Americunts are so fucking scared of them and can't contain their hatred for the explosive race.

But "black people of Fallout"? Only makes sense if you truly believe black people are absolutely shunned in the world. Protip: a Ghoul would never be elected president in the Fallout world. Obama, on the other hand, has been elected (twice!) President of the United States.

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>>180989886
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_41
the only way the ghoul species can reproduce is by exposing humans to radiation. the only way for super mutant can reproduce is exposing people to fev. noticing a pattern?

A person with down syndrome can have children by they will most likely be fucked also.

>>180992229
>I think calling ghouls "the black people of Fallout" is excessive.
>But "black people of Fallout"? Only makes sense if you truly believe black people are absolutely shunned in the world.

At least someone else in this thread has a lick of fucking sense to them.

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>>180991845
>not wanting to gross out the smoothskins with your rotdick

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>>180992229

Then again, it is all autism really. Just like "ghouls are the black people of Fallout" may be funny for a couple of seconds before putting that sentence to scrutiny, you have to be autistic to actually be bothered to put that sentence to scrutiny.

Autistic, or racist, that you feel it is so important to shout out to the world BLACK PEOPLE AREN'T COMPLETELY INNOCENT.

It was just a simple joke.

>>180992298
>the only way the ghoul species can reproduce is by exposing humans to radiation.
That's not reproduction.

>the only way for super mutant can reproduce is exposing people to fev. noticing a pattern?
That's not reproduction.

>A person with down syndrome can have children by they will most likely be fucked also.
dude what

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>>180983401
I couldn't leave it to chance anon. I went back through all the threads available and I think I got them all. The first pics in your little adventure were about to fall off the archive.

I'll compile them with relevant comments tomorrow maybe.

>>180992428
It's not a simple joke when you happen to be black and the person arguing the "ghouls = blacks" happens to argue it and tell you it's true.

That's the complete opposite of a joke.

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>>180992229
>>180992428

And just for reference: I'm not calling anyone a real "autist", just someone bothered by minor things. I'd rather think that as opposed to pulling the "you are raciiist!" card.

>>180992428
it wasn't a joke, but I didn't intend ol /pol/boy to take it 100% literally.
But that's autism for you, you cannot make comparisons with nuance, it has to be 1:1 or it is thrown out the window.
>tfw amended my statement to say "like minority groups in the US" and he just ignored it to focus on the former blacks statement.

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>mfw I've made a huge mistake

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>>180992593

Oh, I get that, anon. Then again, I don't think the person who said that knew who he was arguing against, else he would have probably dropped the subject altogether.

I'm running out of pics to post, taking pretty pics with vanilla textures is really difficult.

>>180992838
>ghouls are the black people of fallout
>it's completely true
>but I won't tell you why it's true

Because you're actually a brain dead fucking moron with ZERO nuance.

>>180992456
its a form of populating I guess.

yes it is possible for people with down syndrome to have children. the person I was replying to was making the point that people with down syndrome are not a separate species because they have mutations. They are not genetically not too different than normal humans compared to ghouls

>>180992926
>amended statement to say "like minority groups in the US"
>still ignoring it to focus on blacks
>using the word nuance when the only way you'd accept an explanation is if it came out to a 1:1 comparison
Wew lad.

all my dlc just gets dropped in teh data folder right?

nothing fancy?

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>>180992857
Grats on getting Knocked up you bimbo!

>>180991975
its todd howard physically stopping you so you buy his game

>>180992456
>the only way the ghoul species can reproduce is by exposing humans to radiation.

Why aren't ghouls doing this, anyway? Surely not all of them see their existence as a horrible curse they wouldn't wish on anyone else. I guess Children of Atom kind of takes that role, but wouldn't it make sense for evil ghouls to be doing this too? Or even be in on it with the Children?

>>180992865
>still won't even explain his reasoning, just tells me I know it's true despite it being the furthest thing from the truth

I'm done with you, you're too stupid to continue this bullshit any longer. Just for your information I don't think you actually understand what you're saying is just incorrect and it's pretty fucking offensive to most black people.

And I'm not normally a guy to get up in arms over race shit, but you are extremely stupid. Not even mad at what you said, I'm just mad that someone can be this dumb.

>>180993285
America is a big place and we've only seen like 1% of it. It wouldn't surprise me if somewhere someone was ghoulifying as many people as they could to create an army of ferals commanded by non-ferals.
>still a better villain story than Caesar's Cancer

>>180992857
>drinking while pregnant

>>180993314
meant for>>180993034

my bad

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>>180993047

right, so straight into this folder? drop all the files from dlc right here? its been awhile since i've played a bethesda game, not trying to interrupt

>>180993285
Wasn't there a quest in broken steel where the children were saying ghouls were atom's chosen and wold have cultist take huge doses of radiation to transform them?

>>180993285
>>180993491
I'll tell you why there isn't anyone doing this. Bethesda still doesn't know if radiation of FEV made ghouls. I don't even think they care.

>>180993396
>the master except with ghouls.
but I like the idea

>>180993314
>I'm done with you
No you're not, you didn't write all this and not expect a reply.
>just for your information
You could explain that one, captain vague.
>I'm not mad at what you said but I'm mad at what you said (I guess that's the implication of "be this dumb")

You wanna explain your reasoning, good lad? Because if I can't explain to you how immigrants are socially treated and why ghettos divided by ethnicity exist I'm unsure if you're qualified to talk about anything other than momma's basement.

>>180993618
I have a hypothetical question for you is a vampire human? They are not the greatest of analogies but their are some good parallels

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>>180992503
You're fucking awesome anon. I'm working hard on compiling upgrades that meet my high standards but s o o n the story will continue.

>>180993890
there*

>>180993890
I don't know anything about vampires so I'm the wrong guy to ask. Kinda stretching it a bit tbph senpai.

>>180993878
Nah, done with you.

>wants explanations despite not even explaining his own position

sweetie...

>>180994042
>wants explanations without explaining his own position
Mate....

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Can we go back to talking about Fallout please?

>>180993618

I really hope teh next game does away with RPG shit all together


because their current half assing of RPG elements is depressing as fuck

>the only time you really get a choice related to your special is for finding parts for a ship
>a named voiced character means every character feels the same

not to mention their shit writing. it feels absolutely awful to be looking down the sights of your gun and fire three rounds that you KNOW hit, but RPG "miss" chance strikes again and your cover is blown

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>>180992017

>>180994148
Let me check what season we're in.


Nope, still summer. Sorry storyfag, only off topic discussion allowed!

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>>180967732
Which one?

Another life
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14253/?

Or

Start me up?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18946/?

>>180994148

I tried that once, all of this happened

>>180994148
just can't talk about ghouls or black people. other than that you're golden.

>>180994436

start me up, it adds a few nice thigns that you'll want as well as dialogue changes

get silet protag too

>>180994436
Start Me Up.

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>>180994436
start me up

>>180994042
I know but the the idea that it can be a random curse or be forced on someone, Near immortality, and can become feral. Not the greatest but it's the first one that comes to mind. Also not saying ghouls are untermensch. humans and them can peacefully coexist and be equals.

Side note why hasn't there been a ghoul and an old human man or woman couple and how the ghouls deal without aging with his lover and their impermanence

>>180986851
Thanks for that, by the way. Works great! Is there a way to make armor unique as well? Like CBBE clothing for me while keeping the NPCs in their regular outfits?

>>180994151
>I really hope teh next game does away with RPG shit all together
Then it's not a Fallout game anymore, which is exactly what Bethesda wants to do. If you rip all the RPG elements out then why did you even buy the series in the first place?

Money, obviously. You slap a newly acquired IP on your buggy engine that you also used to make millions on your own series, you're going to be in the money. You're also just making the equivalent of Call of Duty at that point.

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>>180967732

Argument time - Actually important shit edition!

>>180994558
Fuck, that image will be seared into my retinas forever. How do I make my Nora look like this?

>>180994616
Do all ghouls slip toward the feral state in fallout, or is it something that happens from the get go?

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>>180994620
yes, the way I do it is to decide beforehand who wears what typically. Run their outfit through bodyslide for their preset, and then run the other people's outfits through for their preset.

This prevents people from wearing other people's outfits (or at least without looking silly) but it's easy to do at least.

Skeletons and regular people can coexist and wear different outfits

>>180994831
emphasis on "can" as far as I know we don't know what causes ghouls to go feral. Wasn't that what they were researching in underworld in Fo3

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>>180994558
Reminds me of this

>>180994720

then they make a call of duty that isn't just

>terrorists
>guns
>explosions

they can just finish the job and skyrim up the whole fallout series

fallout has tons of uncharted territory, literally

>>180994616
>Side note why hasn't there been a ghoul and an old human man or woman couple and how the ghouls deal without aging with his lover and their impermanence
That would be a nice quest to have in the game and give a lot of well deserved sympathy to the ghouls.

>>180994831
All ghouls eventually go feral, time of which is undetermined.

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glad I went with the darker eye shadow, unless there is perfect lighting, the smokey eyes less pronounced

>>180995185
They do have a lot of territory to cover but that also requires being creative and making good factions within the restraints you've already put yourself in.

It has to stay in North America though and the RPG elements need to stay.

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>>180994831
the right lighting and face skin, which I forget the name of since I don't have it anymore

>>180994793
Mikey is a fucking idiot and his argument makes no sense.

>>180995413
>he's never had a toast sandwich

>>180995385
I meant the outfit, what mod for that bodysuit?

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>>180995523
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11647/?

>>180995169
That is hypnotic.

>fall ass backwards into the Nuka-World Overboss position
>with great power comes great responsibility
>change the name of the "Nuka-Town Market" to the "Nuka-World Trade Center"
>no longer the Overboss

Anyone ever had their F4SE crash to desktop on launch?

It worked just fine yesterday, but today it always crashed to desktop when I start it.
Launching the game normally through steam works just fine though.

Already reinstalled F4SE but it still crashed on launch. Anyone know how to fix this?

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>>180995935
Oh god I forgot about that stupid fucking power armor, is that added by PN?

>>180996171
Never mind, already fixed it by randomly deleting a F4SE folder in my Data folder and it stopped crashing.

>>180995507
he is right tho, a sandwich needs two SLICES of bread, and a loaf of bread is by definition unsliced, or specifically the unsliced portion is the "loaf" while the slices of bread obviously the "slices"

>>180996515
Yeah and I fucking hate it.

>>180995507
>>180996657
Both of you guys are getting this twisted, look at what Mikey said again

>>180996887
I'm not getting twisted, I know exactly what he's saying.

>>180996887
but the context is that he's saying mirelurk meat between two slices of bread isn't a sandwich, when it is.
and besides, a loaf of bread -is- the unsliced portion.

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>>180996887
>>180997118
>>180997194
I've actually never heard this conversation

>>180996887
>>180997194
same anon, continuing reply because epiphany
if mirelurks are overgrown crawfish and crawfish sandwiches are called "po-boys" isn't he technically correct? It isn't a sandwich, it's a po-boy!

>>180997194
>and besides, a loaf of bread -is- the unsliced portion.
What do you mean by -is- because a loaf of bread is a loaf of bread.

>>180997320
because if you have sliced bread from the loaf it is still a loaf, while the slices are no longer loafs.

>>180997194
>but the context is that he's saying mirelurk meat between two slices of bread isn't a sandwich, when it is.
And that's why I said Mikey is an idiot

>>180997391
So when you order a pizza and it comes cut up in different slices, are you actually ordering slices of pizza as opposed to a pizza?

Do you tell the pizza guy on the phone that you want an order of a dozen slices of pizza?

Interesting conversations today lads.

>>180997421
he's not an idiot, he's just a simple man who knows what he does and doesn't like! :^(
leave mikey ALONE

>>180997485
technically I ordered a pizza and it was sliced as a part of the deal.
Do you tell the lady at subway that you want "two loafs of bread"?

>>180997421
is crab meat in between two piece of bread a sandwich. Typically fish or aquatic meats are fried before being put into a sandwich

>>180997594
no that's food poisoning

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>>180997594
Crab has to be cooked first before anything in order to get some type of meat out of it. Unless you like liquid

>>180997594
>is crab meat in between two piece of bread a sandwich
Any meat between two pieces of bread is a sandwich, yes

>>180997489
Nice change of pace from Fallout 4 waifuposting.

>>180997558
>technically I ordered a pizza and it was sliced as a part of the deal.
You order what you get, which is 12 slices of pizza. Don't wheasel away from me.

>Do you tell the lady at subway that you want "two loafs of bread"?
No,because technically it's a loaf of bread cut down the middle with stuffings of whatever food you want, which is colloquially known as a sandwich.