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Bat'ed: >>180900651
How good does /svg/ think blood will be this expansion?
/ourguy/
How much master score is needed for top 10k at the end of a season usually?
I'm at 8.5k right now.
>>180932697
So...its today or tomorrow at night?
>still no battlemaid deck
>>180932773
Who?
post witch
>>180932816
Roughly another 22 hours.
>>180932882
#notmyleader
This game is royally fucked and Wonderland dreams will have no meaningful impact on the shadow/dragon meta.
No craft can trade as efficiently as shadow can, and no craft can reliably kill ramp dragon quickly enough.
This game is dead.
>>180932836
>>180932998
Disgusting.
>>180932914
What is the point of this card other than stories to tell your friend?
This game is royally fucked and Tempest of the Gods will have no meaningful impact on the sword/rune meta.
No craft can trade as efficiently as midsword can, and no craft can reliably kill rune quickly enough.
This game is dead.
armpits are going to save Shadowverse
which armpits are you most looking forward to?
>>180933046
You gay or something?
>>180933031
WHO IS HE
>>180933160
not an argument
>>180933156
Pre-nerf it was an all-or-nothing card that saw tournament play (often being the deciding factor in many games) as it could very easily turn a bleak game around and win you the match outright
>>180933160
>kektor
>nerf
ho ho ho
>>180933214
Yes.
>>180933243
Just a madman who won by themising Daria board 3 times in a row.
A lot rng in HS is actually done really well since most effects offer you 3 results and you get to pick 1 of them
This game is royally fucked and Rise of Bahamut will have no meaningful impact on the sword/haven meta.
No craft can trade as efficiently as midsword can, and no craft can reliably kill haven quickly enough.
This game is dead.
>>180933156
You better to see what they call "control mage".
>>180933348
And what is his name?
>>180933156
Makes your opponent salty when it keeps giving. There was that time where it literally turned the table around in a tournament, allowing the player to make a comeback and went into semi-finals. That forced them to "nerf" it so that it stops casting when it is no longer on board (transformed, bounced or destroyed)
>>180933430
ourguy
>>180933430
themisbro
>>180933475
it's still played too :^)
>17k is only 1400 place
>>180933156
Blizzard said they like add "meme" cards for certain styles of players that arent supposed to be viable but fun
That card is one of those
So obviously they nerfed it 2 weeks in
>>180933206
Roland's incorruptible armpits.
>>180933673
And it generates even more salt when it keeps giving and not dying.
>>180933740
I see you're a man of fine tastes as well
>>180933395
>opponent discover 3 random cards
>its a card from another class and surprise you cant play around it
>>180933348link to his game?
>>180933719
And it's only gonna get higher
>>180933395
>>180933885
Or
>it's 3 cards from 9 card pool
>>180933853
>tfw will never get roland emblem at this rate
JUST LET ME BUY IT CYGAMES
>>180934051
Maybe she will be the star of the next prebuilt.
>>180933395
>Opponent plays primordial glyph into cabalist's tome
JUST PLAY AROUND IT BRUH
>>180933719
You will need around 22k to be in top 1k. Around 20 hours of grinding.
>>180934138
Not happening
Luna
>>180933980
oh this mage play babbling book, pull glyph and generate cabalist tome and cabalist tome again !
>>180934261
>3 Albert emblems
yikes
>>180934138
new prebuilds when
>>180934229
>tome draws another tome
>>180934261
Let me dream
>>180934138
Hopefully she'll be part of the next prebuilt instead of gaywine while our boy albert gets the alternate art. Knowing cygames, though, they might make Roland not part of the prebuilt so I have to waste more gold on TotG
>>180934329
4, actually. Standart, GBF, Leader set, Prebuilt.
With Odile, you can just slam a 3 attack follower into Odette and let Odile hit something else and finish Odette off with the EOT skill. Odette pretty much has to kill Odile herself.
Are you ready for Wallet Haven?
Can I have a quick concede please?
39469
>>180934653
>3 legos
>wallet
lmao
>>180934653
good luck against ramp dragon bruh
>people that unironically wants Roland as a leader
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>180934619
Odette will only ever see play in whatever Elana decks are left anyway so maybe a leftover buffed follower can do the job or something
>>180934653
>lion
>with 3 neutrals total
>>180934691
Thanks KMR
>>180934653
I'd put more themises and bahamuts myself, along with aegis and do away with the storm part of the deck:^)
>>180932697
The poll already ended an hour ago.
>>180935060
Jesus, that butter face.
>have a perfect D-Shift hand ready to go
>Haven player concedes before I can drop my sick hand
GEEZ
>>180934653
>play a 7PP garuda that doesn't deal 3 damage
Nigga what the fuck?
RESULTS ARE IN
>Sword
Albert
>Rune
Daria
>Forest
Fairy Princess
>Blood
Azazel
>Haven
Moonbunny
>Shadow
Cerberus
>Dragon
Dragoon
>>180934653
dude you need to go full neutral for lion
>>180935265
Source?
>>180935265
Only thing that irks me is Haven
that bunny is retarded. I'd rather Cudgel or Eidolon
Forest too but nobody cares about forest
>>180935265
>they are only available for crystals and the game will be dead before they come out
>>180935265
Blood's choice was fucked from the start apparantly. Either way, you're gonna get some edgelord.
>>180935352
>>180934821
Not him, but reducing Lion to 6 is good enough. The card is very strong even at 7. You are retarded if you think you need to go full Neutral for it.
>>180935364
His ass. Jap players are split between FP and Aerin and non-Jap players didn't vote for FP.
>>180935060
sico
>>180935558
>Jap players are split between FP and Aerin
gamepress pool is not official
>>180935529
Daria is also "strong" at 9pp too it would still be retarded to play her in a deck that has trouble reducing her cost
Why didn't I start playing D-Shift sooner. This deck is FUN AS SHIT.
>>180935676
>8 Neutrals, 5 of which are all of the 5 drops in the deck
>trouble
>>180933009
This game is royally fucked and Tempest of the Gods will have no meaningful impact on the rune/sword meta.
No craft can trade as efficiently as daria can, and no craft can reliably kill midrange sword quickly enough.
This game is dead.
>>180935638
You are right. Average salarymen Takeshi and Mishima were even less likely to vote for a card like FP they most likely didn't even know existed.
still waiting for some kind anon to upload this to one of the boorus since it was taken down from pixiv
>>180935695
got another good game for you my man
>>180934703
>3 Tribunal
>don't draw Belph in to Jammer or drain
>lose
B-but blood's cancer they said!
>>180935907
Are you running Dealer too?
>>180935818
An anon literally posted the source on last thread. It's still on Pixiv.
>>180936063
thank you my dude
>opponent plays Ginger while their board is covered in Earth Sigils
>>180935207
>calling it a 7pp Garuda
>plays the card for you
>better value than Garuda even without a discount for every card other than sacred plea
>>180936007
Not shown is the rest of the set of Imps, wolves and 2 Yurius.
>>180936381
>2 Yurius
>Mary
>Revelation
>Righteous Devil
nani the fuck
>>180936381
This new fate... a revelation!
>>180936370
You forgot
>5/5 vs 4/4
>>180935795
What? Salaramen are the biggest fans of idols like kanahana
>>180935695
the best part is them conceding right after you play it
I even got wins when I had shit all in hand but removal and DShift
>>180936381
>righteous devil
>mary
>yurius
>revelation
take all that shit out
>>180935265
>blood
>azazel
What the fuck I thought Dark General was in the lead, I don't wanna play as this betacuck faggot
>>180936573
it avoids being killed by le balanced chuuni of the board clear fuck yeah
>>180936370
>>180936573
>demonic strike is 4PP for 3 damage
>losing out on fanfare of the amulets
Whatever floats your board. Lion just seems meh for me.
>>180936623
>take yurius out
>>180936381
Complain he is losing with an OP deck, show the list, list is complete garbage ... LUL
Can someone please theorycraft a WD elana set?
>>180936615
This. I love it when my opponent snap concedes after I cast dshift even when I don't necessarily have lethal. Literally free wins. Feels good man.
>>180936808
>Fanfare on Storm amulets
>the only amulets with a Fanfare that are played on Storm Haven either can't be played with Garuda on the same turn or are a turn 10 play
Retard.
>>180936486
>>180936548
>>180936623
I'll settle for taking out Righteous and revelation. Not Mary though, she's cute. And Yurius is the most powerless 2 drop in the game.
>>180936381
>make deck shit
>complain
>>180935265
>Azazel
its not beast dominator but at least its not the stupid chuuni
>>180936929
>>180937008
It's still a low value drop from airjammer.
>>180936970
>still ignoring the 3 damage
Retard.
>>180936929
don't post the next pic I already have nightmares with Yurius thanks
>>180936929
>spot the lethal
>ITS ALWAYS AIRJAMMER PULLS 2 WOLVES
>>180936808
>basing its value off the raw stats of a neutral spell
That's not how that works at all.
The point is even if you somehow don't manage to discount the card once. For 7pp you can play a 5/5 and a 3/4 with storm. Something that costs 9 pp or over two turns with Garuda. And once again that is ignoring the discount. A single pp discount on the Lion is huge.
I also consider 5 health extremely important in the year of our lords Grimnir and Eachtar. Though Eachtar will be around less after the expansion, Grimnir sure as fuck isn't going away.
>>180937193
>always having an amulet in hand
At least Garuda does something by himself.
>>180937090
>>180937163
Wrong
>>180937129
>>180936808
Why are you comparing cards when nobody is dropping Garuda for Lion? Also, Garuda needs set up or at very least 7pp to be combo'd with an amulet from hand (and you can only do it with 1pp amulets with that much pp). Their uses are completely different.
>Fanfare
Yeah, right, forgot about the super important 11pp Garuda + Tea Time combo.
When is sword going to get a good aoe spell? Cyclone Blade is trash.
>>180936953
Play a better deck instead.
>>180932998
goddamn those are some titties
>>180937402
>>180937553
But thats worse than hamclone in every possible way
>>180937402
Never
Because Sword class identity is flood the board not control the board
>>180937725
Sword's board flood has been dead since RoB
>>180934653
How to spot a literal D rank
>2 snow in every deck
>>180937725
>tfw Tsubaki leader for my RC deck never
>>180937857
The fishies have all drowned. Although, Card Knights are pretty good I think.
>>180937937
>what is Lion neutral synergy
Would you replace Cerberus for Snow in midrange shadow? Cerb is pretty mediocre without Phantom Howl which isn't used anymore.
do ghosts activate yurius' proc?
>>180938012
>Only 5 neutral followers (+6 if you want to count Teatime)
You call that synergy?
>>180938183
yes
>>180938183
Yes
>>180938183
Yes
>>180938219
>>180938220
delicioso
>>180936381
drop Mary for christ's sake
>>180937937
>play amulets that will pop on turn 5
>turn 5 play Snow, buff something, draw one and reduce Lion to 6pp
>turn 6 play Lion
The synergy between Snow and the Storm amulets and Lion is insanely obvious. You are the D rank here.
>9pp
>do nothing
What's it, /svg/?
>>180938316
Never.
Can we please call her Whitecat Sage and keep Snow for Snow White
>>180938153
>Cerb is mediocre
>drop phantom howl
Just shadownigger things.jpg
>>180938202
>3 Grimnir
>3 Tea Time
>2 Snow
>5 Neutrals
NERF YURIUS
>>180938379
Aegis
>>180937942
>No Tsubaki leader
Don't remind me. It suck having a patrician choice of waifu in SV
>>180938379
Aegis
my laptop is painful to touch. not the keys or the trackpad, but like the metallic corners really fucking hurt me. it feels like static shock, but not in jolts but a constant burning sensation. what do?
>>180938379
mythril golem
>>180938453
>Teatime and Snow
>a turn 5 play to reduce 1 cost from a 7 cost card
Just because it's Neutral doesn't mean it's actually synergy.
>>180938379
Leonidas
>>180938379
Wyrm God of the Skies
>>180938379
Grimnir
>>180938659
>9PP
>>180938379
>>180938506
>evolve, kill any card, and lose absolutely nothing
>do nothing
>>180938379
Eachtar
>people complaining about grimnir when he's the reason why shadow doesnt have 70% winrate
Grimnir is great for the game and keeps aggro in check.
>>180938408
Snow Cat and Snow White.
>>180938379
Ginger
>>180938572
It allows you to instantly curve into Lion, retard. Lion is insanely strong on turn 6 already. You don't need to go full Daria to make good use of it. Garuda is already a very strong turn 6 play, even though it needs set up, what you can't always do, especially when you need to play and evolve followers to fight for board. Lion doesn't need any set up and can pop Aria straight from hand.
>>180938502
I want Assassin Erika. Alternative versions of others leaders too, like Forest Guardian Arisa and Dragon Form Rowen.
>>180938739
>turn 9
>>180938852
Let's say you curve, you're wholly dependent on having an amulet in hand. I've seen that test match from GameAI, he had a 5 cost Lion that he had to keep in hand until he topdecked Birdsong.
>>180938502
You already have one dyke, we don't need another.
>>180939169
>card that has synergy with amulets, which the deck in question plays 15-of, requires an amulet to work
Who would've thought? I guess Zell was fine then, since without a card to give Storm to he was just a Fighter.
>tfw running into Evolved Zell + Angel Crusher
>>180939035
>Young evil Urias
>Loli Isabelle
>Shade Eris
>Adult Luna
>>180939441
So, you're losing out on the "Neutral synergy" to stuff more amulets to enable Lion. Ok.
>>180939532
>Shade Eris
Wow 3 different pupil eris versions
>>180938819
>keeps aggro in check
More like his presence in dragon decks alone completely wipes most follower-based decks and many midrange decks from ladder forever. There's very little that can compete with chained enhanced grimnirs from turn 6 onward.
That's to say nothing of breath of the salamander, whose damage values has, on its own, dictated what is even allowed to be played (any kind of followers that aren't >2 hp or sticky are no longer allowed to be played, ecks dee)
And dragon children actually DEFEND this somehow
Less than 22 hours left until maintenance. Do your dailies now if you want to have one more set tomorrow before it goes away.
>>180939532
Why not Luna's Father and Mother?
>>180939658
Because dragon is honest
>>180939768
They're not necromancers
>>180939912
So honest!
so, any new edits?
>>180940224
disgusting
It calls.
>>180940306
I want Walfrid to be my dad
>>180940930
go away lecia
>>180940930
I want to give birth to you.
>>180940224
Civilization was a mistake, we need to go back to the caves
>>180938339
>play amulets that will pop on turn 5
>turn 6 already dead
I'm starting to think Hector might be the card that everyone is underestimating right now. Yeah he's not the best thing ever, but fanfare doing 3 damage to enemy face on a 4/4 ward for 5 really isn't bad, there's not many cards that let you do face ping like that without using an evolve. The neutral condition really isn't a problem in decks that would run him.
Thoughts?
Aside from the fact his art is hella FAKE and GAY
>>180939658
Dragon doesn't do anything more that Haven hasn't done for the longest time. Haven even being the only class that has a positive winrate against shadow right now when nothing else does. I'm not sure of which imaginary follower decks you think of but the only one that has been relevant that is no longer played is tempo forest and that's because the last time it received support was DE.
Either way we have two midrange decks currently t1 and the reason the other midrange tempo decks aren't is because Cygames didn't give them any new cards this expansion. But you're probably a retard who thinks Shadow and Dragon are going to stay t1 in WoD despite getting almost nothing.
Every single expansion has been dominated by some boardflood midrange/tempo deck and here we have some retard telling us that follower-based decks are doomed. You're an idiot.
>he still plays shadowverse
49609
Need a concede, thanks
>>180941409
Have you ever played Storm Haven?
>>180941570
Hector's a cool guy. 1pp 4/4 with ward.
>>180938739
i wanna fill her with dragon babies
>>180941570
Forest and Sword look to be the only classes right now that would run enough neutrals to proc his fanfare consistently. Sword's 5 slot is heavily contested so it pretty much comes down to what Forest wants between him, Feena, and Snow.
>>180942092
Did you get a concede? It says the room doesn't exist.
>>180941976
>hes still posting this
>>180942403
I think Haven could do it potentially. You can certainly have enough neutrals in your deck, I guess the puzzling part is keeping enough in hand to meet the condition, neutral decks kind of want to flood the board and push as much as possible, so you'd need some way to keep your hand fat.
>>180942262
have you?
Please concede
69125
98893
can I get a concede please?
>>180935265
>Albert
It's time amigos, get the guitars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k
25729
need a concede
pls help
>>180942940
trade with >>180943095?
>>180936381
>Not shown
That's why you either run all animated or non animated copies of a card like a normal person
Makes that shit fit on the screen
>>180935265
>Daria
>Albert
Absolute fucking cancer, it's like glorious Nippon LIKED the RoB meta. Ah well, at least we got cinnabon for Haven
>>180943175
thanks senpai
>>180942940
>>180943095
>>180943175
>all these people who won't get a reset in time for the maintenance
>>180943274
>best girl
>best boy
Why are you surprised?
>>180943242
Or just use paint/photoshop to join the pictures together. Its not that hard
>>180942940
Thanks
>>180943274
I'm sad because I wanted Pascale for Dirt deck representation.
>>180943403
It's like voting Hitler and Stalin humanitarians of the year. I don't get it. At all. Weren't they the most hated cards in the entire game not that long ago? I'm baffled.
>>180943274
Post nerf RoB meta was the best
So how is the player going second supposed to deal with a turn 3 4/6
>>180943615
>Weren't they the most hated cards in the entire game not that long ago?
Maybe. I love them now. Everytime cygames releases something worse I end up liking cancerous decks from previous expansions.
>>180932771
Just like now. Very strong, but a bit on the expensive side.
>>180943689
I liked DE more.
What does Cygames do to all our cards while maintenance is happening!?
>>180943801
I know what Arisa does to hers.
>>180943737
>>180943737
Forgot image.
>>180943883
>needs 6 other neutral cards in hand
Kek, that's even harder to deal with than that guy was saying.
>>180943689
Standard was the best. It was the only time you could play a card like Apprentice Necromancer and have it actually be good.
>>180943737
>>180943921
By killing it a turn before.
>>180943615
Even if you don't like a card, you can like the character design. I hate Cudgel but I voted for him because I think a leader would be hilarious.
>>180943615
I don't really care about what kind of effects they have on gameplay, I just like them because of the looks(since that's the only thing we have) and some other stuff. I use Eachtar avatar and voted for him on the poll because he's cool as fuck but I think that he's absolute cancer.
>>180944028
It's a personal problem for me, I guess. I don't only dislike Daria, but find both of them really boring characters. Daria is just some random blonde chick, and Albert is maximum blande bishy stereotype.
>yfw the expansion is coming out tommorow
>>180944270
Fair enough, it's not like blonde witch and blonde knight are the most unique of designs
>>180944364
I'm excited, but simultaneously worried the meta will be awful. I mean... I think things can't get worse and it must improve, but I thought that about RoB too and we all know how that panned out.
>>180944364
>>180943801
Tags: netorare
>lets just drop low cost followers since you can buff them all with eacthar anyway xddd
nice gaem dotards
>>180944364
Image related
>>180944530
Phoenix Roost needs to come out of maintenance
LEAVE OUR COCK ALONE, CYGAMES
>>180944679
>Phoenix Roost needs to come out of maintenance
I think roost might be the first card to get removed, I lost all hope at this point.
>>180944364
I'm finally going to stop being lazy and do the complete 20 private matches achievement before WD
I'll be killing myself with Blood, help me out
ID 32925
>>180944364
Well maintenance is certainly coming out tomorrow
OH COME ON
ARGH
OH COME ON
OH COME ON
OH COME ON
OH COME ON
OH COME ON
>>180945878
Kys
Dub
Cuck
>>180935265
Will they be coming with the expansion ? If not how much gold should I save for them?
>tfw game gets decided by 50/50 coin flip
Either my tribunal kills Elf's 6/7 AE or the Elf Child MayIt killed the Elf Child May
>>180946167
Hi
It's me
Vania
It is finally time.
We can finally cut Beastcall Aria from our decks with Wonderlands
>tfw I can finally use JP voices with no effort in a day
>>180946207
You won then?
>>180946365
it'll always be used in storm haven, you didn't "need" it in control
>>180946257
Kys discord
>>180943521
Should've joined me and 2 other anons voting for Taboo dude, master of experiments
>>180946423
Hello, you all will be getting at least 1 animated legendary tomorrow, thank you.
>>180946867
A living legendThank you
>>180946867
Oh is this a thread for cygames developers to post in anonymously? You ever buff a legendary card to retarded levels right before an expansion knowing that we'll never nerf it?
haha!
>>180947000
Me on the right
>>180947000
>every individual tooth at a different angle
Beautiful
Need a concede
94226
>>180946423
>mfw you're going to have to change your client to chinese if you want jap voices without changing the files
>>180947257
Thank you Desert Rider
Zell should be unnerfed to purge Aegis and Dshitter from ranked.
>>180946867
Thank you.
>>180947476
You're just playing the wrong Dragon. Play storm.
>>180946867
>>180947000
Kimura is one of those guys that you know exactly what they'll look like when they're old
78659 concede pls
>>180946867
That would be wonderful.
>Forest does not have a Laura or Zell
YOU HAD 1 FUCKING JOB!
>>180947740
thanks urias-bro
>>180946867
Thank you.
63760
concede? please?
>>180947787
>3pp 2/2 fanfare: give storm to a follower is you have played at least 2 spells this turn
what now?
>>180947787
So do you want to remove your roach then?
>>180947787
Cry more, entitled faggot.
>>180948118
Wolf Fetch anomally T9 Otk
REMOVE VAMPIRES
>these people asking for concedes instead of joining my game
>>180947787
Yeah, that seems reasonable in a class that has Anomaly.
>>180948443
how is that different from Pre-nerf Dragon or hell, Zell X Servant combo??
>>180948227
yes, roach is shit when is the only viable/ consistent win con
>>180948549
13 does not equal Win-The-Game
Someone kill me.
>>180948996
left and go for the memes
I remember once I got OTK with memes in the sky in T2
>>180948696
15/15 implying they wont be at that or bellow by 9PP
If you haven't already, be sure to vote for which meta you think is best.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13297534
>>180949224
It isn't a 15/15.
If you took seven damage while Dragon was ramping for 4 turns you deserve to lose
>>180949267
No surprise that it's DE or Post nerf RoB.
DE would be easily winning if it wasn't for all the new players who started in RoB though.
>>180949750
Shadowniggers are still mad about DE.
>>180949746
yeah sorry, 13/13
Need concede please
13685
>>180948270
turn 9 is perfectly reasonable
as long as you're relying on wolf i doubt whether anomaly would even be as consistent as bolt
>>180949912
Oy vey goy what about the 6 gorillion banished Mordecais!
How many hours till maintenance?
>>180949750
DE had Elana
That's way worse than Albertniggers
>>180949750
Nah, DE wasn't as balanced as people always claim. It's just that Sword (this general's favorite pet class) was one of the top dogs, so people think it was great.
>>180950010
Thanks God
>>180950118
It was shit. Garuda and Midsword were stronger.
>>180948270
Wolf just needs to fucking kill himself at the end of the turn and we're golden.
>>180950017if this meme control forest can take to T10 and beyond for 9 out of 10 games, its good enough for stall till T8 Wolf
>>180950228
its T8. in most current deck the chances of em having nothing you can slam a 4/4 against is low
>>180949750
DE was a 3 class meta. Other than that, there was DShift and Face Dragon. Blood was a meme, Shadow was bad, Dragon's core mechanic was a joke, Rune had one deck and one deck only.
It was much better than most other metas, but it wasn't better than post-nerf RoB.
Also, IIRC, the strawpoll asking when people had started playing the game had DE winning by a large margin.
>Things will never happen because people keep saying it will happen
>Sword become t1 again
>Forest become t1 again
>Abyssal will shape the meta
>Shadow and dragon will be less cancerous
>Shadow will stop whining about their six million banishes
>>180950138
Top Decks seen in DE:
>Elana
>Seraph
>Elana/Seraph
>Storm Haven
>Midrange Sword
>Tempo Forest
>PtP Forest
>Dshift
>Aggro Shadow
>Face Dragon
>>180950706
>pure Elana
>pure Seraph
>Aggro Shadow
Nice meme.
>>180950450
I've been playing wolf decks since RoB and the times I couldn't kill it in the same turn were actually higher than you'd normally think. It's fucking cancer.
>>180950450
One of the reasons wolfbolt disappeared is the inconsistency in getting the LW. IF Wolf doesn't brick you, you don't draw the bolts first, you can spend your entire turn 8 playing a 4/4 rush without dying, and the 4/4 will die in a trade; then the deck is kind of okay.
>>180950706
>Pure Elana
>Aggro Shadow
>Face Dragon
All of them objectively subpar
Fuck off
>>180950804
Not him but those were there, albeit not as frequent. Meta was definitely healthier. Never was a meta that skewed playrate and winrate to such and extend as ToG.
>>180950945
>>180950806
it goes down to get to T8 as healthy as possible for T8 "Do nothing" and survive. T9 you can the kill wolf and play more control
>>180949750
Bullshit, most players here started with DE since that's when steam release happened.
>>180950118
Havenfags were miles better than shadowniggers.
>>180950982
Face Dragon was great.
>tfw you accidentally drop albert on t8 'cause dragon opponent had 9 mana before that turn
there goes my +150
>>180950982
>he doesn't know about Face Dragon in DE
How to spot D rank.
>>180950982
Face and aggro shadow were fine. Aggro shadow wasn't impacted by Haven being strong any more than the other classes, as the build didn't rely on LW effects then.
>>180951297
Dragon players retardation affects other people, too?
>A meta where forest was at the top was the best one
>A meta where forest is trash is the worst one
:thinking:
>>180951209
>>180951323
>>180951360
>MUH MEME DECK WAS SECRET TIER 1 JUST NOBODY PLAYED IT
Every time
>>180951497
t. D0
>>180951497
Face Dragon had a good match up against Midsword and Forest, and the top master players were spamming it in the last few weeks of DE.
Fuck off, D0.
>>180951497
http://game-ai.jp/38749/
>face dragon
>meme
how to spot a newfag
>>180951593
t. Retard
Face dragon sure won a lot of tournaments huh
>>180951685
Yeah and banner fucking sword had good matchups against every haven deck at the time, still doesn't make banner sword a good deck
Fuck off RETARD
>turn 1 anythnig
>turn 2 anything
>turn 3 anything
>turn 4 Ephemera, Angelic Slacker
>turn 5 Cerberus
>turn 6 howl+coco+mimi
Gee shadow, why does cygames give you 15 face damage turn 6
>>180951840
>thinks Haven being good against Haven was anywhere close to being good against the actual top two decks
Congrats on proving to everyone that you don't know anything about what you are talking about.
is there any difference between face and aggro?
>>180951864
>MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
>>180952014
Face was like Frog, where you didn't want to trade at all and just use your pseudo-ambush followers to kill as fast as possible.
>>180952014
Face is literally only good at hitting face, literally loses to wards
Aggro can trade units without losing the game
>>180951840
Haven was a meme spread by ungabungas and shadowniggers. Midsword and Tempo Forest were the best decks at the time, and this is why Face Dragon was good. Stop posting if you were C rank at the time.
>ywn tech Angelic Barrage to annihilate a row of fairies or bats every again
>>180951840
>Muh tournamentttt
Despite never joining any wwwwww
>Banner sword
This deck only works at lower rank are you perhaps D0 or Beginner ?
>>180952012
I know retards here try to downplay Haven's dominance at the time (which is true to a small extent, pure elana wasn't actually good but that's about it), it still had second highest winrates and playrates after sword.
Congrats on being retard as well. Boy that face dragon sure won a shitton of tournaments and continues to be extremely popular to this day!
>>180952215
Storm Haven had objectively better stats than any forest deck. Continue being retarded.
>>180952291
As a forest player I actually miss Angelic barrage. I can still feel the rage when I put down Liza on the board.
>>180938379
Roar
>>180951718
>tfw you climbed to masters with face dragon
Mushussu was such fun card.
What is a do something card?
>>180952716
Eachtar
>>180952716
This head can't be taken
43749 daily concede.
>>180952716
>>180952716
storm
rush
fanfare do xxx
>>180952716
Something that immediately affects the board state once played
Also a buzzword that most people don't really understand
>>180952716
D-shift
>>180952716
Themis
>>180952716
Eachtar
SibylQuickblader
>>180944064
>based nips draw mostly Luna and Arisa porn
>game doesn't get enough porn in general
Feels bad.
>>180952836
Thanks.
Will be opening 110 packs. Lets see who can guess correctly how many corpselords I'll get.
>>180952926
>6 pp do nothing die to storm next turn
how to finish gaem before turn 7
>>180953097
Bats.
>>180953016
A full set of animated skelly king.
>>180953016
What do I get if I guess right?
>>180953097
KYS blood on perfect curve
>>180953097
just pepe it bro
>>180953097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ack-ZtiKuYI
>>180953016
1 animated and 2 normal
>>180953270
My cute boipucci.
How come you still can't gift people stuff?
>>180953654
>Build new account
>Give things to your main account
>Rinse and repeat
Why Israfil need to heals for 4?
>it's already time for a new expansion
>barely even played the last one
>Dragoncucks and Shadowniggers trying to justify their current broken decks because it wasn't cancer in DE
Holy shit, people are acting like Shadow, Blood and Dragon were completely unplayable in DE.
"Unplayable" are Sword and Forest in ToG. Nearly everything was unplayable in RoB pre-nerf except Roach OTK and Daria.
>>180953841
>barely even played the last one
Didn't miss much other than shadow and dragon every game
>>180953762
Because nobody wants to play a 9PP do nothing.
>>180953762
Because if you cost 9 fucking pp you need to do something the moment you get played.
>>180953762
Because dragon needs more healing. Thank you.
I'm excited to see what the base 2 cost stats are going to be a couple expansions from now. I'm imagining something like 2/4 for the newer followers.
>>180954123
Israfil is a neutral card retard. I bet you are one of those people who keep complaining about sword not having heal cards.
>>180953904
Never trust a shadownigger.
Also they will act like this again in Wonderland. Never let them have a foothold again.
>>180953904
Aggro blood was played all the time in RoB, there was a lot of sun satan as well, sword was doing fine as well. It wasn't only roach and daria
>>180954224
>Israfil is a neutral card
Yeah like Bahamut hahahaha
>>180933740
I want to have sex with Roland!
>>180954318
n-no rune was worse than shadow goy!!!
55973
Concedes pls
>Opponent has Vampy leader
>He doesn't greet fellow bloodbros back
Fuck these players
>>180954328
Bahamut genuinely used to be a neutral card. I ran it in Seraph and Dirt.
>>180954338
I want to be Roland!
>>180954457
Arigathanks Urias
>>180933206
These animated stinkers.
>>180953949
As a shadow main I hate what ToG did to the class. I was excited about Catacomb finally giving the class a decent source of shadows and tokens to sacrifice, but ungawagoners ruined it. Cygames should have just turned the skeletons into 0/1s instead of turning him 4 mana and punishing anyone that had a wholesome purpose for him. The whole meta was fucking aids anyway, everything is so oppressive that fun decks aren't even possible anymore.
>>180954709
>turned the skeletons into 0/1
this might be the most retarded thing I've seen all week.
You realize all this would do is cause boardlock, right? You wouldn't get shadows from them because there would be no point in attacking them.
>>180954889
You can attack with the Skeletons yourself, retard
>>180954889
>implying they need a reason to be attacked
These are the retards playing my class now.
who is ready for new Blood meta??
>>180954963
I wonder what you're going to run them into when your opponent doesn't play any followers to help you.
>>180954224
Let's be real, nobody else uses those high ass mana neutral cards other than Dragon.
>>180955132
>JUST DON'T PLAY ANY FOLLOWERS BRO
How retarded can you be?
>>180955132
Ah yes, who could forget the top-tier strategy of "playing literally nothing"? The fucking mental gymnastics people will go through to avoid the fact that they just made a complete moron out of themselves.
>>180955132
yeah is not like Sahdow has a ton of "sacrifice X to do Y" cards
> your opponent doesn't play any followers
what are you? D-shift?
>>180955127
>out of place dark general and imp lancer
>>180954630
Lewd!But I would still fuck you!
>>180955325
>>out of place
>Trigger Key at end of T4
>Likely under 10 LP so Vengance
>T5 free Spawn
Storm
>>180955127
>he still think spawn of the abyss deck gonna be tier 1
Cute D rank.
>>180955132
Just admit that you are a hearthfugee.
>>180955285
>>180955305
Spells are cards.
>>180955306
Everything but Soul Conversion is worthless.
Yes, I'm DShift.
>>180955438
>>he still think spawn of the abyss deck gonna be tier 1
I also remember when people said Sybil will be shit cause the T5 limitation for Ramp
>>180955403
>>180955487
>Everything but Soul Conversion is worthless.
>Yes, I'm DShift.
So you will not play Followers. and also will not play kill spells to lock his board with 0/1
Then what will you do?? masturbate till Deck runs out?
>tfw shadow gets a second copy of soul conversion this set
>tfw it won't be played because it has no targets because catacomb was nerfed
If you wanna play T2 do it now.
5 5-0s yesterday and today in like 8 runs, only retards around
>>180955641
catacomb is still good though
>>180955641
>it has no targets because catacomb was nerfed
Nice delusions, shadownigger.
>>180955627
Do you play the game?
Cache, Insight, Fate's Hand, Magic Missile, Angelic Snipe?
>>180955641
you still use catacomb in the midrange version so...
Fuck. These last few Standard packs ruined me for WLD.
>>180955851
yes and he evo an skeleton + catacomb and shave your life little by little while you masturbate with a full hand
>>180955708
>>180955856
As sacrifice fuel he's not good. The 1/1s were better for unga when he was 3 mana and they're still better for unga when he's 4 mana, now he's just not even worth playing over bone chimera because sacrifice decks don't board flood for catacomb value like unga decks do.
Give me the mp3 of Urias' "hoo..." or else
Post rare loading screens
>>180956148
pastebin
>>180945153
Thanks to the people who helped, I'll come back later and try do the last 6
>>180955938
>wind blast
back to boardlock. Oh hold on I'm taking 1 Damage every turn. Yeah, that won't stop me from getting Shift off in two more turns. thanks for the free win retard.
>>180955641
I for one am excited for Haunted House memes. It's like a Ghoul's Banquet that isn't tethered to a completely different gimmick.Countdown 2 is bullshit though.
>>180956253
>kill a follower
>Back to boardlock
look at this negro
should I build ramp dragon? OR WAIT FOR XPAC
>>180956195
>>180956343
You played Catacomb and replaced it with a 0/1 you dumbass 10inch thickskull.
>>180956370
build a bridge and jump off of it
>>180956370
Expansion is literally tomorrow. Of course not.
>>180956370
Are you fucking shitting me? Literally less than 24h for maintenance
>>180956228
God bless
>http://www.bilibili.com/video/av10733268/
more shit like this where
>>180956758
>Kobayashit
Check reddit.
Don't forget. Ravioli Ravioli don't fuck the dragon loli xd.
concede plz
11420
I dont think im gonna make it.
>>180957027
not sure what any of that means, i just noticed the link from the yt video about turn4 dshift
Whos ready for Grand Master Rank?
93094
Need a concede, thanks.
>>180957124
thanks vampy chan
>>180957360
Thanks blood anon.
>>180957329
>Master 1,2,3,4,5 rank until you can get a trial (best of 5) to get into grand master
>Each number rank is 10000 points
Can you build a deck with this card that actually works?
>>180957329
Grand Master better be a monthly reset otherwise it's just another stupid grind.
>>180957690
unironically a good card
>>180933348
I wanna watch this match, is it recorded anywhere?
33617
concede onegai
>>180957780
>3PP do nothing on turn 3
>Good card
>>180957753
Master resets every month.
WHO IS READY?
what are good cards
>>180957886
I mean lose the rank back down to master.
>>180957860
Thanks love
>>180957948
anything shadowcraft not even joking
>>180958015
>Corpselord
>>180957938
WE ARE READY FOR MY SUMMER CAR
ITS TIMEfor literally nothing
>>180958284
told ya
There is only one thing that can fix Forest.
Bring back pre-nerf Gobu or Homecoming. That's all. Roach deck is complete. It's final version of Roach archetype.
>>180956758
I assume you've already checked the dude's channel.
>>180958471
Forest will never be "fixed" because cygames won't touch cards from previous expansions
Nice pre-expansion shadowbabs
Luna's pussy stinks
>>180958947
yeah she didn't clean it after she was with me
>>180958892
I really like that shadowverse is irrelevant on twitch. Being popular will just attract cancers to this thread.
>>180958892
impressive
>>180959059
>i really like playing dead games
i GOT 3 NEPS AND 2 SNEK DO I DUST EM?
>>180958947
I like girls with stinky pussies
>>180959162
Yes. Enjoy
>>180959162
>No one streaming = dead games
If I want to watch e-celebs interacting with chat while playing game I would just watch hearthstone.
>>180959059
im not really sure whats wrong with twitch 2bh
been using it since the justin days for the mugen stream thing
>>180959059
Yes, because this thread is in such great shape already.
>>180957690
Like all forest amulets, this card is 1pp too high to ever be worthwhile.
Even if you get a set-up to pull it off turn 4
>>180959246
>dusting meme deck legendaries
No, they're for meme decking.
>>180957690
You can but it will be a meme at best and very inconsistent.
>>180959309
I remember when justin tv allowed(?) non-gaming stream, and now twitch has a IRL section, what a circle.
holy shit dirt rune is____FUN
>>180959246
Sneks have zero future but I'd keep Nep just in case.
>>180959724
list me captain
>>180959806
>Sneks have zero future
You can put them in Cblood. Being unpredictable is fun
>>180960010
its a shit homebrew that I shaped up with what I had
its literally shit focused on guardian golems (remi&rami) and x2 professor of taboos that I had
>>180960074
Or you could put Cthulhu in cblood and kill people
Need a concede at 76957
Stay if you need one. Have a historically accurate manly warlord in advance.
>>180960074
Nah bro. Nah.
We're almost there /svg/. Only less than 24 hours before every single haven and rune player collectively kill themselves!
This will be the golden age of the game
>>180960690
>shadowniggers get away with everything once again
Wow so golden.
>>180960502
Thanks elf slut!
Only Odin can cuck me he--
>>180960784
>M-muh six millions!
It works every time! It just works!
>>180960690
Why would rune players kill themselves? They are getting a lot of good cards.
>>180960690
>>180960690
haven is going to be godlike tier s++++ in 24 hours
>>180960784
Everyone benefits from the removal of haven and rune. Only a haven or rune player would disagree with this.
Get the rope ready. You're going to need it!
>>180960690
>Haven
???
>>180960297
>>180960297
Remi Rami is pretty fucking shit dude.
Wow, a single golem for an earth rite AND an evolve.
>>180960986
t. shadowkike
Get ready for the lion cock, scumbag.
https://twitter.com/misstopiaaaa/status/879786234129731584
Agni's WD KYS aggro blood.
>>180961075
I said it was something that I scraped together with what I had nigga, currently doing my dailies in unranked
I didn't say it was good, I said it was fun
>>180961113
>3x Carbosse
b-but she's bad!
R8.
I think Tove is really underrated. T4 drop Tove and then Lyrial is a strong tempo swing.
>>180958471
They could also revert the nerf to Harvest Festival.
4pp on that card is literally trash.
>>180961113
>0x Soul Dealer
b-but he's good!
>>180957148
I should have posted the stream here, but I made it to meme city!!!!
>>180961113
>>180961180
>wow this guy got to number 1 playing the same shadow netdeck as everyone else his opinion is sure more important
>>180961113
it's bad
you heard it here first
>>180961352
>wow this guy got to number 1 most of the seasons, must be coincidence lmao netdecker xd
>retards honestly think 6pp magic missile will see play
lol
>>180961352
>play the same deck as everyone else
>do better than everyone else
Wouldn't that kind of imply that he might be better than a lot of those people?
>>180961280
welcome friend
>all the other peasants have to test their decks in unranked in fear of losing ranked points
is dirt finally gonna be a deck?
>>180961352
He play others deck too, autist. His opinion already matters more than yours
>>180961512
the overlord playing midrange shadow said so
>Crimson sorcery (from Levi) is 1PP
>Thorn burst (from Rose Queen) is 2PP
:thinking:
>>180961643
If only thorn burst counted as 2 cards played.
>>180961573
If Witch's Pot existed in RoB then it could've been a deck. Now that cygames is consistently pushing aggro, it'll never be good.
>>180961572
>calling people peasants when you aren't getting Master Rewards
Sad!
>>180961573
Aggro Golem Burn Dirt will rule the earth
>dragoncucks rope and bm me every single turn
Why the fuck would you do this? Its the end of the month just play the game you autistic niggers
>>180961709
Perhaps they'll get an Earth Sigil that has a Last Word thatrandomlydestroys an enemy follower.
>>180961887
They already have Taboo for that
>>180961573
Dirt burn is already legit, WD is our expansion boys
>>180961867
He probably needs 1 win
Can I get a concede please?
68532
>>180961887
>implying you need it to be last word
>>180961867
literally 11d mahjong
>>180962039
>Dirt burn is already legit
>>180961990
>>180962134
Taboo is no replacement for Sigils with actual effects. Taboo merely consumes Sigils for an effect.
Now imagine Taboo together with Sigils that actually does stuff.
>>180962203
Did I fucking stutter?
>>180962203
SHOW ME YOU LIAR
>>180962203
Some anon here burned his way from AA0 to master in 2-3 days.
>>180962134
>people would rather vote for daria so they can masturbate on 3 different spots of their screen instead of the real rune hero
I still dont get runetumors.
>>180962312
t. A2
>>180962101
Thanks elf
>>180962312
>burn rune without grimnir
You can stop posting now
>kys blood's new toys
are you looking forward to every game ending on t5?
>>180962472
why is she so best
>>180962532
which decks are even going to be able to stand up to this bullshit?
>>180962532
Now nip salarymen will get to play 2 matches instead of 1!
Cygames really did themselves this time.
>>180962312
I kinda hate it that every rune deck relies on Levi carrying it on his back.
>>180962498
Tell me what an aggressive burn deck that never reaches turn 10 no matter what can get out of grimnir and when on turn 3 itshuld be playing literally anything else. Or are you just going to spout shit such as "grimnir must be in every deck except dshift because /svg/ told me so"?
>>180962364
I sure hope control dirt is more viable next expansion. Shit is the most fun deck together with Discard dragon.
>>180962583
She ain't. Ass elf > alraune >>>>>>>>> belly elf
>>180953981
>Because if you cost 9 fucking pp you need to do something the moment you get played.
>satan 10 PP
>does nothing and replaces your deck with cards worse than the normal ones
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67401
Need 2 more for the achievements. I'm playing kys blood.
Will WD be a one deck meta?
>>180962931
Dont listen to this faggot. He is playing control forest with infinite healing
He WILL waste your time
>>180962931
Thanks mr. skeltal
>>180963087
Thanks for the warning, fuck him.
>storm ramp dragon
Fair and interactive, am I right?
>>180963087
that was me dude sorry for making you die to fatigue but you did get your 100 rupies in the end so why are you complaining
>>180963020
Eventually. Haven too stronk
>>180963087
>>180962931
This is the deck, need one more
>>180962892
Snowman PtP is pretty fun too
>>180963335
What, why haven?
>>180963306
its standard unga with ramp, I don't mind it
what pisses me off is constant healing just to drop a bahamut turn 5
>It's [current year] and people STILL get salty over roach lethal
>>180963479
belphegor is useless when doing the achievement matches
use lillith instead
>>180961643
there is no other way to obtain those spells outside levi and jk right?
>>180963663
Teatime was the Haven lego silver
What's the meta for WD looking like? I'm guessing noninteractive aggro decks from what I'm seeing.I wouldn't mind that, zero interaction/coin flip metas are best for climbing
69161
Concede please!
>>180963707
>Teena
How many hours until expansion?
>>180963791
GARUDA SANDSTORM
>>180963753
Disaster Witch for sorcery
Rose Queen for thorn
>>180963874
Thanks!
>>180963931
Literally it was yesterday, m8.
>>180963753
There's another way to get Thorn Burst in WD
>>180963753
Forest has that new WLD card that gives you thorn burst
Disaster witch gives you a crimson sorcery on fanfare
>>180963931
17 h
>>180963970
Did WD do anything to fix Haven's T1 do nothing - T2 do nothing - T3 do nothing curve?
>>180964128
neutral, neutral, neutral, birdman, lion
>>180964128
They did. Now you never play the t1 do nothing because you get a powercreeped t2 do nothing which draws even more cards
>>180964128
Lion incentivizes you to run early neutral drops
>>180963764
>5pp summon two 5pp statline followers with evolve effect
Jesus christ.
>>180964128
you just don't run haven cards at all other than lion and teatime
can someone remind me why neutralcraft was supposed to be a good idea?
>>180964314
all the hipsters were playing it in TotG, so why not have everyone play it? :^)
>>180964314
it is not. this next expansion is the nail in the coffin. it started with bahamut then grimnir and now this
>Its not op if everyone can use it!! thank you - KMR
>Recruiting Officer
>Swordcraft Follower
>2PP 2/2
>Trait: Officer
>Enhance (6): Transform an enemy follower into a Knight.
>>180964261
What are Tin Soldier's stats? 4/5?
>>180964534
make the enhance 5pp
sword doesn't have enough 5pp drops
>>180964534
t.swordfag jealous of lily
>>180964534
Enhance (6): Evolve: Transform an enemy follower into a Knight
>>180964261
Thats the weak part. Look at lion. Reduce cost for every neutral minion played. Only 7pp. Fanfare is put a 5 cost amulet in play and destroy it. You are getting lion and tea time activated on same turn.
>>180964314
I like the idea, but I think it was way too early. It's a nice way to create new deck types in a craft without power creeping or inadvertently buffing old decks, but there's still a lot of space to work with in each craft and the game hasn't really hit a bad power peak yet.
>>180964668
>>180964631
yes with levi evolve effect
>>180964848
wow that's pretty retarded
>>180964693
are tin soldiers haven or neutral?
>>180965019
neutral
works with Lion and freedom birb
>>180963991
>>180964091
>>180964104
i wish i could manage to pull wolf/jk with more consistency, either that happens but i run out of fairies or i have 2 wolfs on turn 2 and jk on turn 3
also is there any deck that i could fit disaster witch in? i just love going lmao 3 to the face with levi, being able to do that 3 more times sounds like fun
>>180964697
>but there's still a lot of space to work with in each craft
Like making cards that use Sword/Forest's class mechanic while also being playable.
>>180964534
And his voice line will be:Freezesoldier!
>>180965141
>6pp for a crimson sorcery
better to just x3 demonic strike
>>180965141
Disaster Witch is kill. Young Levi is coming.
What's wrong with having more good neutral stuff if it doesn't take over from a craft's identity? It's not like Hearthstone where neutral cards would define decks and strategies.
>>180964534
You like the cold?, hehe
>>180964668
SWORDBABS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>180965286
see Grimnir
literal cancer that is in every single deck
>>180963902
>Not using Teena in the class devoid of a 3-for-1 evo 4 drop
>>180965410
>evolving cards not named EPM or Feena
>>180965392
Grimnir is poor card design, but there's nothing wrong with him being neutral, and you don't call a deck running grimnir a "grimnir deck". The problem is once the neutral cards start doing more than the class specific ones.
>>180965536
>roach
What now faggot?
>>180965584
>The problem is once the neutral cards start doing more than the class specific ones
So, Grimnir?
Do you think people put him in their decks for the 3drop? Nigga please
Grimnir is a guaranteed secondary wincon (clears board and 4 to face) to every single deck
>>180965619
>he has to evolve his roaches
>>180965584
>there's nothing wrong with Grimnir being Neutral despite the fact that every deck that can run him typically will, also known as a pro of being a Neutral card
>>180965584
You call any deck NOT running grimnir a shit deck
>>180965819
>literal evolved roach in this pic
what did he meme by this?
>>180965081
but lion would waste the fanfare no?
>>180965819
>20 played cards
>only won the game today where I missplayed
Haha
Can't wait for havenbabs to complain about never drawing Lion early
>>180965964
works as in it reduces it costs
Who the fuck actually defends Grimnir
lol
>>180966154
my mom on the left, my wife on the right
>>180966548
hello son
Are the chinese packs still obtainable?
I'm getting some friends to play SV, and I was teaching them how to get some free/easy goodies and reminded myself of this.
She did the method but didn't get them, so I'm wondering if it's still up or if she is being autistic as always?
>>180967059
Can't get them anymore.
>>180966546
Grimnir. Is. Balanced
>>180967018
i thought you were dead
fuck off mom is mine
>>180967157
3pp 2/3 ward is balanced
10pp 4 damage to all enemies is most certainly not balanced.
>>180967059
>she
>>180967327
Balanced. Is. Grimnir
How long until the expansion drops?
>>180967327
>10pp 4 to everyone is not balanced
>7pp 200 to face restricted to one class is
hmm i wonder whos behind this post
>>180967403
28 hours.
>>180967403
1 day, 4 hours and 26 minutes.
Blood is getting a lot of cards that will make it bullshit in take 2
>Big Knuckle is a bronze
>Bandersnatch is silver
>has rush so its not a dead card
>barely any access to banish effects in take two
>plays any Spawn you drafted when it dies
>barely any access to removal that hits ambush so it will almost always be able to get the attack
>Carabosse effect actually lasts long enough to become ridiculous
Combined with the new garbage cards for Shadow and Dragon, it will be among the best choices to pick now.
R8 my deck. I named it tenko aria on t5 or lose.
>>180967592
It's not just Shadow and Dragon, pretty much every class gets bogged down with shitty "Neutral matters" cards in the format where you only got not even a handful of Neutral cards. Blood will be the go-to best class for the next 3 months.
>>180967618
bahamut bro
>>180967618
>Odette
>>180967618
>Elana deck
>Only heals are 5pp or higher
Yeah no shit
Deck's trash
>>180967592
Carabosse lasting long in T2 might be a drawback since she keeps drawing even if you have a full hand.
Your deck size is smaller so you might just mill yourself
>Bronze and basic cards from every class (excluding Neutral) will appear in addition to all the cards from Darkness Evolved, Rise of Bahamut, Tempest of the Gods, and Wonderland Dreams. All other cards, including the bronze Havencraft card Manifestation of Faith, won’t appear. Take Two decks created before the June 28 update may include cards that will no longer appear during drafting.
Can someone explain this? Are you gonna be able to get other crafts' basics and bronzes in T2 now?
What's with all the Aggro Sword on masters? I've seen quite a few people playing it on the last few days
>>180967818
>not putting her on your dick to release her from the curse of purity
>>180967903
>implying that's not the curve you start healing with this deck
Ok. What if I put healing angel instead of grimnir?
>>180967618
It looks like a storm deck thats swallowed an elana deck and now neither has good enough storm now does it have good enough heals.
You're gonna be hurting for field space really really quickly.
>>180967494
I've been away, what's this combo?
Is Neutral Sword a meme?
>>180967592
It still will have to deal with all those shitty kill-yourself cards.
>>180967494
Don't be a cuck, Balanced man is at best +8 to face damage (+ the damage of the board + a possible Evo) for 7pp.I managed once to do +20 face damage with balanced man against a poor aggro bat fag
>>180968145
literally everything except Standard cards
>>180968168
>giving your opponent a free wincon
You're absolutely fucking retarded
>>180967364
>she
>>180965819
>conveniently hides opponent craft
Okay my man I liked winning in DE too as forest
>>180968170
If you want an honest recommendation just don't play pure Elana, it's fucking shit.
But if you really want to play it you simply have to accept you have to build your entire deck around it if you don't want to run secondary wincons. Otherwise it's just too unreliable, you can't count on getting the dream curve every game.
>>180968168
She's trash, m8. Odile is leagues better.
>>180968345
imagine if there was a card that makes everyone summon a 1/1 body
imagine if by turn 6 you end up with 4 1/1 bodies on board
imagine if there was a card that you can use on turn 7 without even wasting shadows
>>180968707
imagine
>>180968534
What exactly do you think that big purple skull means?
>>180967327
I'd say it's the opposite actually.
>>180940224
maybe wait for anime expo. that's where it's scheduled to appear next
How do you play around a deck that has ramp, heals, board clears and storm up the ass?
>>180968707
Don't get me wrong, Lord Eacthar may well be one of the most broken cards I have ever seen in any card game ever but he is a +8 face damage potential thread on an existing board.
A year from now (if the game isn't dead by then) we will laugh at Eacthar being powercreeped to oblivion.
>>180969485
Luckily for you, most Dragon players are retarded
>>180969485
just themis bro
>>180969485
OTK them or get the god curve with kys
>>180969543
>in any card game ever
>>180969485
You rush the shit out of them with an even cancer (mid shadow).
>>180969543
>Lord Eacthar may well be one of the most broken cards I have ever seen in any card game ever
You really should play more card games before making claims like this.
>>180969485
you hit that mama fuckan concede buttan
>>180969625
Eacthar is fucking broken as fuck, I have to think of other retarded ass cards from other games to start to think of a more broken card.
>>180969814
other games have counter-measures against broken shit (banning, limiting, nerfing, etc)
but that smug big-lipped motherfucker doesn't want to nerf legos
so enjoy the ride while it lasts
>>180969814
This one card unironically leads to a full, typically unbreakable, board state where your opponent either has one of several cards to stop you or you all but win the game.
>>180969543
You must not have played many card games because I could name you more busted cards from at least 4 different games
>>180969814
Imagine a Bahamut that you can summon for 0 PP (for a negligible cost) that also wrecked hands and did damage to the opponent for each card that got wrecked.
Eachtar is pussy shit compared to other card games
>>180969993
That's not Terrortop's fault, that's the fault of Terrortop summoning Invoker, summoning Rat, etc
If you want to give an example of an actually busted card at least post barrage, broadbull or norden
>>180970259
Name FIVE (5) more broken cards from SIX (6) different games.
WATCHOUT WE HAVE PROCARD PLAYERS ITT
Wonderland dreams will not change the meta.
>>180970592
>>180970853
>Memes
wew laddy
>>180970395
you can have some example here kid, not even gonna bother with the rest
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/power-nine-2003-10-15
>>180971129
I want to peek under Alice's skirt!
>>180971131
>I could name you more busted cards from at least 4 different games
Wow, one (1) whole game.
>>180970592
I think Blood's cards will have a significant effect.
>>180970984
get a trip so we can see you crying about it in a few days
>isa with saha/luci and baha
i just wanted to do the elf daily, why
>>180964128
Snow white.
>>180971347
>control ANYTHING
>ramp dragon
epic
epic for the win
>>180971352
The only crying that'll be done will be people who are going to realize they're going to go through another three months of shadow/dragon.
>>180971129
That card is so busted
I hope I open her 3 times
Hey, does anyone here play Eternal? I got off my ass recently and tried it out after some fags were arguing in a HS vs Shadowverse thread over in /v/. So I finished the tutorial and there's this "Gauntlet" mode which is pretty much like our practice vs AI mode in SV except you win chests of gold and cards after reaching a certain number of consecutive wins against increasingly harder AIs. Right now there is no cost (free/nada/zilch) to do this mode and no limit either. Will this stay free or will I reach a point where this mode costs something to play? Because I can't believe they'd give you a free mode that lets you grind, with no limits, rupies to be able to enter their Draft/Forge mode where you keep all the cards you draft.
I'm sure there's at least 1 or 2 people here that play and know since we all have some overlap with other card games.
>>180970984
>/svg/ truly believe this
You get worse every expansion.
>>180971435
>elf daily
just wait 21 hours and replace, bro
>>180969485
You dont. You pray that he bricks and doesnt ramp and that you have enough to kill him in those 7 turns (you dont) or you lose
>>180971545
Oh okay, you're just stupid.
>>180971545
>Tfw too dense to see that Mid Shadow is going to be powercreeped
>>180961113
>dropped no attack devil and meme dealer to have actual cards
>carabosse
Seems legit.
>>180971557
I hope I open her even more than 3 times, if you catch my meaning.
>>180971571
>Having to give up alot of haven's staple cards to play neutral followers
>Meanwhile Midrange Shadow just relentlessly pounds your ass like a little bitch
>>180971691
>Give up a lot of staple cards
Nah. Not really. The list presented has easily raped Mid Shadow's ass through playtesting.
Frogposters fuck off
>>180961113
>3 Caraboose
>>180971691
You don't need to give up anything, retard. Even if you reduce it by only 1 it's already amazing.
>>180971826
>Literally only 8 neutral followers
>>180970395
okay
MTG: Yawgmoth's Will, Tolarian Academy, Stoneforge Mystic, Sensei's Divining Top, Deathrite Shaman (wow didn't even have to touch power 9)
YGO: Spellbook of Judgment, Performages in general, Tellarknight Ptolemaeus, Elder Entity Norden, Shock Master (not even touching any of the classic banned shit)
Vanguard: Doctroid Refros, Goauche+Mick, Belial Owl, Melem+Ur-Watar, Tahro
Duel Masters: Bombazar, Giovanni, Kiriko, Mad Romanov, Astral Reef
Need two more games?
>>180971954
Lion is cost efficient at 6 PP in my honest opinion. The deck isn't centered around him, he's just a tool that can be used to make decently-sized tempo swings.
>>180972043
So it's just a shitty storm deck.
>>180971691
>haven plays followers for the first time in 4 expansions
>midrange shadow (instaloss vs control decks) pounding anything
Really makes you :thinking:
>>180972028Pokemonhas broken shit too, but I stopped playing that in 7th grade
>>180972028
>Sensei's Divining Top
Thanks for the laugh, Maro.
>>180972028
>Tfw you'll never go back to freshman year of college
>Tfw you'll never have your shiny new Wind-Up Deck with Shock Masters and Zenmaities ever again.
>Tfw you'll never enjoy Yugioh again.
>>180972127
>The craft with the best trading for DAYS (Soul Reaper, Little Soulsquasher, Prince Catacomb, Orthas)
>Giving a singular FUCK about your followers
>>180972043
Cost-efficient isn't good enough in this gorilla game
>>180972116
>Snow White
>March Hare
>Shitty version of current Storm Haven
why do I even reply to these posts? Im just baiting myself at this point.
>Caraboose won't be in aggro blood!!!!1!1!!1!1!1!
/svg/ was retarded yet again. Hit me up with more of those 6 PP magic missile memes
>>180972246
>Modern: Banned
>Legacy: Banned
>somehow not better than a shitty ccg card
yeah thanks for the laugh anon
>>180972269
>doesnt even know the name of shadow reaper
>running a nerfed card in midrange
This guy
>>180971565
wait, so you're saying you can keep entering their T2 mode without waiting for tickets or daily missions as long as you grind? the fuck?
>>180972269
>Drop Jeannes to fuck up Shadow boards and to make your board super big
>Tribunal the Shadow Reaper
>Scripture/Cudgel the Chimera
>"I'm leaving.... humph!"
>>180972525
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/866/nge-na-open-playoffs-final-1st-place-ms-jaze-midrange-shadowcraft
hmmmmMMMMM
some random submaster subhuman on /svg/ saying that shadow reaper isn't a good card
or a jap who won first place with a midrange shadow deck with said card in it
it's a real noodle scratcher!
>Don Quixote on board
>Play Queen of the Dread Sea on tur 6/7 (10pp)
>Genesis Dragon and Israfil become 0 cost, Israfil and the Queen have storm
Fun
>>180972514
You forgot that it being banned in Modern is a holdover from from Extended and it being banned in Legacy is "muh Miracles" despite the fact that Counterbalance is the actual problem card of the deck. Not to mention that they cited "time constraints" which is only a problem for shitty players that don't know how to play their own decks.
expansion when?
so many idiots in /svg/ today
>>180972661
the first note was that you dont even know the names of the cards you're bitching about
the second is that nobody runs prince catacomb anymore and that you're still crying over a nerfed card that nobody plays
>reddit spacing
This is your average /svg/ poster.
>>180972663
just execution bro
>it's a back to back full Daria deck in unranked episode
>>180972795
>Doesn't even run prince catacomb
>it's literally in the same deck as the first place midrange shadow deck i just posted
>literally resorting to REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT
i accept your apology
>>180972269
Shadow already has a negative winrate against Storm Haven, and Midrange Shadow got 0 cards in WD.
>tfw this will be Luna's fate next expansion
I wouldn't want any other fate for the Shadowniggers.
>>180972785
I thought we were all friend here
>>180972661
You are so blatantly retarded that this can't be anything but bait
Here's your (You)
>>180972951
that's a nice source you've got there my man
>>180972775
27 hours
>>180972996
Imagine if in 1 month shadow players start crying about how their play rate is low and Cygames only makes them meme cards like Minthe and Dark Alice and Corpselord
That is literally what forest players have been doing for the past 3 months, except they were Tier 1 for 3 sets first
>>180972923
If you're a retarded reddit netdecker of course I'm going to call you out. You have to go back.
>that feel when you're gonna farm yourself some ez ranked points in master with midrange shadow when wonderland dreams starts up
shits gonna be cash
i can't wait for the realization that midrange shadow is STILL king of the meta, even after "nerfs" and an entire expansion
>>180973063
>>180973063
I found the source for anon.
Haven is getting a lot of amazing cards next expansion while the only things Shadow got were Odile and Demon Eater.
>>180972612
Uhh yea... So unless I'm mistaken, it seems that's pretty much how it works. I can get like 500 gold for a good run of Gauntlet and it takes 2500 to do a Forge run, where I keep the cards drafted and I can keep doing this the whole day. That's why I was hoping there's someone here who's been playing it longer and would know, because there's a really small chance anyone on /v/ would notice an Eternal thread and even smaller chance the one who noticed plays it.
>this shitposter singlehandedly forcing the "midshadow will still be the best" meme so 2 months from now when it isn't some fag can say that /svg/ still thought shadow would be tier 0
>>180973361
>>180973371
>still an overall average win rate of 48.8%
kek
>>180973474
>implying that fag would be anyone else that the guy shitposting right now
>wtf shadow loses agaisnt ONE craft, nerf it!
so how many weeks of meta logs will it take for you niggers to accept that midrange shadow is still king?
im looking forward to
>JUST WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK
>>180973474
Are you the one that is doing that? Since you brought it up and all.
Daily reminder that /svg/ is retarded and always wrong about everything.
>>180973823
Forest will be playable in WLD.
>>180973823
Forest will not be tier 1 in the expansion. Prove me wrong. I am /svg/.
>>180973823
we can't be wrong if everyone here says that his favorite craft is going to be tier 1
>>180973442
just keep playing then and see if you eventually hit a wall. if not, I hope Cygames adopts a similar model. I know I'd love to be able to keep playing T2 without worrying about entry fees and tickets.
Think about it, anon. How many dailies did you grind for those valuable rupees? So much time, so many hours of your life, anon. YOUR LIFE. What are you gonna use them for? An expansion that promotes... Neutral Synergy? Anon, are you really gonna waste your life on four copies of Sylvan Elder? Think about it, anon, you could be buying ToTG packs. Do you really need 2 copies of Fortress Crab day 1?
just themis bro
oh, you don't have a third? too bad
https://my.mixtape.moe/rfkagm.webm
>>180974036
Well my favorite crafts are Blood and Haven, so I guess I'm a pretty happy camper.
>>180974184
I didn't spend that much time on dailies as majority of my gold came from double rewards weeks. No way am I gonna spend time on a game that has become a chore.
>>180974228
>didn't kill the Odin first to rub it in
>>180972996
Does no one remember DE here?
>>180973442
yes you can do that the whole day
It's easy to reach the last rank in that mode
the packs cost 1k gold tho, but it's better to play draft (with people) than to pay for packs imo
>>180974228
And that's why Jeannu is best girl.
Arena in this game is a fucking joke right now. Please tell me they're improving it in the next expansion.
>>180974184
>using best girl to shitpost
>>180974228
>passes 3 turns
>loses
wow...haven...
>>180974404
I remember DE. It was the time when I was able to get into the game and rerolled for three days straight just to get the cards that I wanted.
>>180974467
Gotcha, senpai
Dumb hags
>go 3 times agaisnt haven
>lose
what did they mean by this?
>>180974480
Enjoy drafting your Dark Alice and Cinderella
>>180974552
>best girl
lmao
that's not a pic of Altair
>>180973167
>actually including RoB as if it matters
Forest was relevant in RoB solely because of a neutral card interaction they were too stupid to predict, Cygames even admitted it themselves. They promptly nerfed said deck into mediocre status, meanwhile Shadowniggers get off with a slap on the wrist.
Imagine having any deck relevant to your class identity (combo) being heavily nerfed while the decks they always promote are the same midrange/tempo shit similar to how every other deck plays.
>want to craft a play set of a standard lego
>still have 20 arena runs left
>>180974228
>>180974717
>no sleeves for both players
Greetings from D0
Will anything be able to counter Aggro Shadow going 1st in WD? No? Then shit expansion, not even worth wasting rupees on.
>>180974480
Arena will never not be a joke. Not unless they remove the entire legendary rarity. Too many games are by those bombs.
>>180974228
>actually posting clip of back to back Eachtar like its interesting
I wasted my time opening that
>>180975412
thanks for the (You), senpai
>>180974445
HALLELUJAH! Now I can get some answers!
>the packs cost 1k gold tho
Shit, I didn't check the store yet.
What makes the draft vs humans better than the draft vs AI? Proportionally the entry cost and number of cards you get is the same (2500 for 25 cards vs AI, 5000 gold for 48 cards vs humans). I haven't done draft vs humans btw