XCOM General - /xcg/

post stuff since the expac reveal as a reply to this so I can post it next thread fellas


https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/06/20/xcom-2-war-of-the-chosen-preview/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRLOkk-Lhdw

sparks are useless

pistols are useful

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Swords are Useful

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>Operation Final Moon

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>snakes

>>180881410
>tfw no timidly dominant snek gf to coil herself around you on cold nights to steal your body heat

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shitty enemy design

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>>180881903

I don't understand why you keep posting the best looking Xcom 2 alien and saying shitty enemy design in the same post, are you saying it's shitty because it makes all the other enemies look bad in comparison? I guess that makes sense.

>>180882043
>alien
>is pretty much human

What did he mean by this

>>180882164
Avatars don't have faces

>>180882164
>use humans to create new bodies
>Surprised when they look like humans

Do you get pissed off when floors made from wood look like wood too?

>95% chance to hit
>miss
>destroys a supply crate
>alien turn
>runs up to a gas pump
>something happens
>it blows up and he dies

Not sure how to feel desu

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RIP

>>180882446
Lore should always come last in an xcom game imo. So there really is no reason it couldn't be 50% human 50% ethereal. If they decided to write in a more alien looking hybrid, it wouldn't contradict anything in the story thus far.
Not that I really care about how the Avatars look that much, but lore/plot arguments are pretty.

>>180882709
did you miss the floating ethereal right behind it?

>>180882840
No. Considering that it's just there to show you that the ethereal is "in" the body though, not really sure how that changes anything. It's a completely separate image of an ethereal just floating along, like a ghost possessing something.

>>180881065
>https://www.gamespot.com/videos/xcom-2s-new-expansion-lets-you-control-aliens-e3-2/2300-6439474/

>>180882702
>Russian I.Q. slips on ketchup

>>180881903
dumb avatarposter

>>180882702
>>180883091
Guard: Is that ketchup you spill on?

>>180882702
so much for green energy being safer

>>180882709
>Lore should always come last in an xcom game imo
nah, lore is a crucial cornerstone for how the aliens look and for how they all work together. The lore creates a reason for why aliens look and act the way they do, and gives us a reason for fighting them. Emotional investment is important for the player and the lore provides that. Having The Thing fighting alongside a cartoony sectoid from ogxcom would just be retarded and take you out of the game.

why is the debug camera so bad

>>180884326
Right, but I pointed out that having Avatars look alien would not contradict the story as it currently is leading up to their reveal in any way. You would just be changing one thing. In this case, you can literally go:
Enemy design -> fit it into plot
There's nothing there that says the avatars needs to look human. And ironically enough, your argument that if you didn't follow the lore things would look retarded falls really flat when discussing the Avatar which looks the goofiest and most out of place of any of the enemies.

>>180884616
Because you don't have mods for it?

>>180884854
but I do and the keyboard support one doesnt work for some reason now, and since lw2 disables all controller support I cant even use a controller for it

>>180884939
I don't have personal experience with it, so unfortunately can't really help you. I only know other people seem to use it fine.

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>>180884854
>goofiest and most out of place when pectoids, snek tits, and gloopy gumbi exist.
Nah, the whole ethereal stand thing really ties it all together and avatar posters always crop the images so they can get rid of the best part of the design.

>>180882709
>Lore should always come last in an xcom game
Have you tried playing xenonauts?

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what the FUCK is that

>>180885927
It's a big girl.

Are loot drops guaranteed for every mission? I've done several in a row with no loot drops and I didn't use explosives to kill anything. Also are Insectoids the best source of Elerium Cores outside of the Supply Raid missions?

>>180885927
berserker queen

it's good you caught it in concealment, ambushing helps

>>180885927
>numeric health display
shit taste

>>180885927
Miss Fister

>>180885927
The biggest and easiest one to deal with

>>180887486
>not using roman numerals
>not using tally marks
>not using binary notation
>not leaving the health bar blank then looking up the health value online every time you encounter an enemy

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I want to pound Lily in her cute asian ass!

I want to suck her cute perky nipples!

I want to look down on her as she worships my cock with her mouth!

>when you just want to use the debug camera again but cant for the life of you figure out why the mod doesnt work

does anyone else here have any idea why it isnt working? is there any popular mods that conflict with it or something?

>>180882709
>Lore is dumb to justify bad design
>But I don't care about the design
Dumb avatar poster

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>>180887701
>>180887692
>>180887486
>>180887408
>>180886772

That was fucking HELL

>mission is a "kidnap advent somebody"
>knock em out
>grab em
...
>move conceal girl up to it to see what it is
>it comes closer
>it spots my grabber
>comes charging up to my concealed, reveals her
>run her straight to the evac zone
>it charges into my pile of dudes who I had skirting round a building so I'd avoid the big girl
>knocks one unconscious
>run my grabber to evac
>there's an advent flare right next to it
>queen does the aoe panic
>grabber and pretty much everyone else panics
>grabber runs a mile away from the evac zone
>reinforcements land, MEC, advanced officer and advanced trooper
>berserker is just beating the shit out of everybody while they shit themselves in fear
>grabber stops panicking but overwatches galore
>send some squaddie to trigger them
>whoops, grabber had lightning reflexes, RIP squaddie
>reinforcements group moving closer and closer
>just sitting here with my guys grenading the queen hoping she fucks off
>she does
>acid grenade adv trooper and mec, break overwatch, pick up soldier and run away with her, leave one acid grenadier behind
>mec and trooper die to acid burns
>make it out with unconscious and other guy
>1 turn remaining
>advent officer vs acidman
>it's on overwatch
>run to the evac zone
>he misses
>safely evac on the final turn with only one loss
>normal difficulty

That thing was a total cunt and it threw everything into absolute chaos, it was awesome

>>180888381
It makes me sad that there are people who choose an uggo like Shen to fantasize over instead of an actual qt like Vahlen. This isn't even a debate, Shen is fucking 3/10 material and if we had any other female character in X2 Shen posting would disappear overnight.

>>180889039
Don't worry, the fun will be back next mission.

Does close and personal work with fleche? I just got a shinobi with it on the AWC.

>>180885815
but Xenonauts had autistic amounts of lore

good for a tabletop XCom game though

>>180890982
No

>>180891223
Well, at least I know to go shotgun shinobi anyway.

>>180885607
Agree to disagree on that point then, the stand stuff doesn't really improve the look of the avatars, they feel to very separate.

>>180885815
Have you tried playing X-COM? I mean really, it's pretty clear for x-com and XCOM that they just threw whatever enemies they wanted into the mix and cobbled the story together afterwards.

>>180888676
I'm not him, I just don't like the counter-arguments because they kinda suck. The design is meh. I would have preferred half to full alien myself.

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What went wrong?

>>180893654
Ethereal super cancer

>>180893784
I think you got the wrong thread son

>make 20 characters
>set it to only take characters from the character pool
>start a game
>have several randoms in my initial available set of people and some of my characters aren't in the recruiting screen

Jesus H. Christ, why are these games so filled with fucking bugs and shit like this? Did the devs not even do basic troubleshooting and optimizing them before release?

>>180894048
works for me :)

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>>180894048
I always get the initial set from the character pool with the exception of the bonus soldier.

Even in LW2 I don't have this issue. You sure it's not pebkac?

>>180894048
Works on my machine!!!

>>180894340
XCom 2, all the DLC so far. Game grabs random people from the character pool along with some random people for the initial mission and available troops, and then there's some randoms in the recruiting screen and not all of my characters are there. Has happened five times in a row and I've set it to Character Pool Only then exited and restarted the game.

>>180893784
>GTA V
Not sure if you accidentally posted in the wrong general, but from what I've seen it's not really worth it anymore. Either pay up to tremendously reduce the grind for meaningless stuff, or suffer through teenagers, hackers, and many other cancers alike for a decade. Want to just play with singleplayer mods and enjoy the game? Too late, they've already banned that.

>>180894643
I don't know what to tell you anon. I've never experienced that before in 1005 hours.

Are pistols useful? I've got a sharpshooter with Quick Study, and I'm thinking about going holotargeting, center mass, and hunter's instincts for eventually +5 damage with better holotargeters. The biggest letdown is that literally none of the MSGT abilities work with pistols, but other than than it seems not that bad.

>>180895318
read post #3 in this thread

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>trigger two pods after running into a civilian
>in a fucked spot
>nearby tower has a "restore all action points" thing I can easily get
>decide to just shoot as many people as I can before hacking it
>my squad ends up wiping out everyone in their first go

well then

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Kind of felt like making an XCOM have the EXALT look.

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>>180895994

>>180896164
nice!

>>180895994
You should use this then.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696566464

>>180896259
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696566464

>>180891063
Speaking of tabletop, how about that board game eh?

I read that, in XCom 2, there are crates/boxes in the missions that you can open for loot. Is this true and are they in all missions or only certain types of missions?

>>180897913
There are non-locked crates in xcom2 but they don't contain anything

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Bitch deployed, Commander.

>>180899052
you can see the SJW design philosophy seeping out of that ugly face

>>180899052
That trigger ain't gonna pull itself son.

>>180899126
she's a fucking alien

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>playing black mesa
>on the rails chapter
>swear I hear a HECU soldier scream "X-Ray spotted!" when a vorigaunt teleports in

Probably misheard it but still kek.

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>playing xenonauts
>foxtrot shoots down a ufo
>both condors tailing another
>skyranger clears the crash site
>on its way back a third ufo i forgot about shoots it down
>no way to redirect condors in time
>nothing i can do

While we're on the subject of organizing new squads, how do people set up their dudes early game in Xenonauts? I usually do two fire-teams, one close combat with a shield, two assaults, and a rifleman, and one cover element with three riflemen and a machine gunner.

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>>180880857

Add these to the modlist:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/57070-lewd-mods-and-xcom-2/page-43#entry1758739

these props add bikinis and very "interesting" torsos and legs as well as some scarfs, glasses on forehead and dogtags props.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/57070-lewd-mods-and-xcom-2/page-32#entry1629318

this one adds new faces that actually look good.

>>180899803
These are actually listed in the lewd pastebin fyi

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>>180899803
>step by step we get closer to sexcom
This is not good.

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>>180899126

>new expansion has me hyped
>haven't played xcom2 since before Lw2 was a thing. Download it because I loved it on EU
>doing well like the new stuff
>end up with 4 strike teams of 6 troopers
>haven't even skull jacked an officer yet but have laser weapons and predator armor
>NEW MISSION I never seen before
>train assault no infiltration time have to go now
>all but 1 team is away. Send Dragoon Team my elite VIP rescue or assassination team
>Advent Level: Swarming
>eh probably not too many
>first move of a single soldier
>uncover 4 vipers, a train turret, 8 Advent troops of various types and a mec
>engage
>move third operative to a better position
>reveal 8 more Advent troopers and mec
>proceed to have a knock out drag ass fight
>xcom stands alone. Everyone alive. Two men are wounded by two points but only because they've been patched up. Out of medkits grenades and rockets entirely.
>there is no way there's more then a pod left.
>move forward
>another Advent mec fuck party
>fall back
>reveal another one
>bunker down in creek bed and engage
>alien activity
>3 mutons walk down the bed and see us
>reveals another pod of 3 vipers while engaging them
>proceed to call for evac TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
>4 turns later evac arrives
>of my elite team one soldier has 1 health left and is dying from poison.
>carrying her friend with his bleeding out all along her back
>evac
>mission failed
>30 aliens of 62 killed

Jesus Christ.

>>180899803
Very nice, pairs up nicely with Vectorplexus' mod.

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>>180900630
0% supply raids are a hell of a drug.

Gotta be careful or else you'll lose people though.

>>180900909
Honestly it was amazingly fun and my first real challenge. I'd had some close calls lost about 4 rookies since the start. But no major cockups. Until this.

Almost a code black and that was my favorite team as well. It was a grenidier a rocketeer a medic and 3 riflemen. Thank Christ for light em up. Without that we would have been over run immediatly.

>>180899803
Those faces look off to me. The faces in game mostly look off too, but that's beside the point.

do the alien kings show up with the shadow chamber?

>>180901342
I would imagine they do as they don't teleport in, but I'm not sure if they'd show up as ENEMY UNKNOWN or not if you encountered their base unit.

>>180901342
No, but there is a mod that allows them to do so

Combatives is useful.

I just found out that the "delay dark event by two weeks" hack is actually useful since it pushes all 3 of them back and stops new ones from popping up

i always thought it just meant that the current dark events would get delayed and then pop at the same time as the ones from two weeks later but no, its actually good, which is surprising
i regret skipping over it all the time

>>180901342
in vanilla no it wont, but there is a catch
there will always be less enemies on a mission with a ruler so if you notice a mission with an abnormally low enemy count there will probably be a ruler

Does anyone have a strategy guide for Long War 2? I can't git gud and keep losing to Avatar completion.

>>180891063
I wish it did. Even with Lore+ it's very barebones. Adding retarded technical explanations doesn't make the lore that rich.

I'm an engineer, I can make up retarded technical explanations by myself.

>>180899428
I hate it when that happens. I mean, honestly, let me send out my helicopters out with an escort.

>>180903345
Look up Beagle's strategy guide. The tactical guide is outdated.

How many soldiers do you guys usually have in a LW2 campaign? I feel like I can't gear up more than 20-25 soldiers but I keep seeing people with 50-60 even 100+ soldiers in a campaign all with mag/plasma and power armor on commander/legend difficulty...

>>180904881
You'll need up to 50-60. If you gear it up right, you can equip the old squads with your older gear. The extra missions you can do will give you enough resources to gear them up.

>>180904881
I think it's a go big or go home kind of thing. If you can win a lot of larger supply raid, corpse retrieving missions you can get the supplies from that mission, and even the worst corpse sells for 5, so just 12 corpses is an extra 60 supplies even if they were all trash.

Should I build six W.A.R. Suits and then research their weapons, or weapons first then W.A.R. Suits?

one time I missed a 99% shot

>>180905618
LW2? W.A.R suits are much more useful than their weapons in LW2.

>>180905703
XCom 2, all DLC.

>>180905807
WAR suits are still useful without their weapon upgrades. Comes with a shredder gun by default.

I pop a boner whenever I suppress an enemy

>>180905908
I've gotten Rocket Launchers with the two I've made, is it random what they come equipped with?

>>180906076
You can switch, mat- No, wait, I'm wrong, yes, you do in fact need to research them. But they're still useful without them.

>>180904156
I actually managed to save it by running the charlie away and putting the condors on an intercept course ahead of it.

Of course that just makes it obvious that interceptors don't actually plot an intercept course and just point their nose at the enemy like a bunch of fucking pipe fitters

>>180906025
I pop a boner whenever I see a Codex. Damn dancing girls.

Should I buy XCom 2 Reinforcement Pack or wait for War of the Chosen dlc coming in and wait for them to be bundled together?

>Start a new game on Long War 2 for the first time
>Haven't played XC2 in like 8 months
>Gatecrasher starts me with 7 people
>They're all women
>Huh interesting, whatever I guess
>Get to ship
>All of my soldiers are female

Any idea what would cause this? I dont think there's a mod for this is there? I have a ton of mods not sure any would cause this though

>>180910051
Stop being such a whiny bitch, you're just an edge case. Every five threads or so there's some guy whining about how 'the females', I never hear anyone bitching about his all-male team. The generator is literally 50/50.

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>>180910174
>21 starting soldiers
>100% of them are female
>generator is literally 50/50
I was asking what caused a strange event, not sure how that's being a whiny bitch. I would also ask for clarification if I got an all-male team too, because that doesn't seem right.

Fuck you, hope your house burns down.

>>180880857
>mfw I have to do a swarming abduction in June with a spec scout, LCPL engineer and 5 rookies or my roster will collapse and I will lose

also how do I reduce panic pronto without satellites? I'm about to lose the USA, which would be rather unfortunate because that's where my fucking base is.

>>180910051
enjoy your military harem

>>180910051
>>180910174
Alright something is definitely wrong, after three gatecrashers every single soldier is still female. Guess I have to comb through all my mods til I figure out what the fuck is going on. Thanks again for the help fuckface.

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>>180910443
>mfw when I have no face

>>180889102
They're both ugly af though

>>180900630
Holy shit, I'll remember to never do that

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good introductory mission to LW2, lost a rookie there

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Post your favorite soldiers

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>>180910605
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
NO MATTER WHAT MODS I TURN OFF
I CANT STOP GETTING FEMALE PRIVATES
8 FEMALES ON GATECRASHER
21 FEMALE SOLDIERS IN THE SHIP
4 FEMALE RECRUITS IN RECRUIT MENU
FIVE TIMES NOW

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>>180914479
>I CANT STOP GETTING FEMALE PRIVATES

>>180914479
Did you turn off every mod and do a cache check?

>>180914479
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=624570834

>>180914479
holy shit this is amazing.

Should I jump immediatly to XCOM2 after finishing the first one's campaign ?

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We cog nao
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=955890973

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>want to play Xcom2
>can't because expansion soon
>decided to play EW instead
>airgame

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>>180917538
Lawdy
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=956879109

>>180900795
What mod is that? Can't find it on Steam

>>180913282
Zhang's long-lost gay half-british brother?

>>180914479
Just roll with it, anon. Enjoy your valkyrie squad.

>>180899052
what the fuck is that leg holy shit

Why can't xcg win the league?

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>>180921361
Becuase PES is a glorified coin flip with fancy graphics
The only place where manager's abilites matter is group stage, RO16 is just pure luck

>>180914479
I think someone is having a little fun with the ini.

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>>180889039
Just had the same mission:

>get lib 3 mission
>neat, finally
>during the mission advent strength goes up to 9
>Mission is at 114% : moderate to heavy
>fuck damnit
>boost it to 170%
>still moderate to heavy

Took me over an hour.

>>180923029
jeez the force level and vigilance must be through the roof

>>180923029
this is a neutralize target mission, you go in concealed with a shinobi and a sharpshooter, you call in evac the moment you spot the target and immediately double tap it with the sharpshooter, and get the fuck out with the evac, don't even bother with the enemies

>>180923142
There's no way to stealth through 50 enemies

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Is there an XCOM discord?

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>>180923667
>/vg/ discords

>>180923667
hope not

>>180923489
at 170% infiltration the detection range is minimal, couple that with the shinobi's ghostwalk ability and the SMG's -detection range and you can use the shinobi to scout for the target, while positioning the sharpshooter somewhere high to take a squadsight shot. that will alert a pod but it will not break the concealment of the shinobi, allowing you to drop evac next to the sniper for a safe and easy mission.

I do realize these are ideal situations but you did have time to prepare, you just lacked the knowledge on how to properly deal with this kind of mission.

>>180923762
>>180923824

you're right. the /fgg/ and /LoL/ discords are cancer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YYwhDtShPQ

For those anons who where watching my OpenXcom/Xcom Files playthrough - I've finally not been as sick as a dog and managed to release another episode.

This time I manage to bag a were-cat.

>>180924434
that has more to do with lol and the fgc than discord

>>180923667
The thread is dead enough as it is, discord is the last fucking thing this place needs

>>180924434
All discords and cancer

>>180913282
Holy shit, it's Ben Hotpants.

I remember when that meme was fresh.

Reapers video is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVJg_KrLzBA&feature=youtu.be

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>>180926024
>that leveling screen

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>>180926259
>>180926024
D A Y U M

>>180926024

So the reaper is the "tactical concealment/suppressor mod" class?

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>>180926024
Pretty good

>>180926024
>1:05
>Temnotic Rifle
so there's gonna be a plasma version too

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>>180923667
Discords are scary shit. Every discord I've seen in a general brings nothing but misery. And it doesn't matter how big it is.

>>180926460
More like infiltration tech/tac suppressor

>>180927001

We already saw that the Advent hero guy had a beam rifle too in a screenshot.

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>>180926406

neat

>>180926024
First tier weapons still look better.

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>>180926024
>>180926406
>>180927675

>Russia was such a shithole that aliens abandoned it and now remaining ruskies are raiding aliens while cosplaying S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Can't say i'm not interested.

>>180927675
That special kill idea is great. Really encourages multiple playstyles.

>>180927917
They won't be connected to any geographical location besides ADVENT cities. Though in PirateZ this is true.

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>the day will come when you will have the 3 heroes, a psi trooper, a spark and one of each of the alien ruler armors in the same squad

>>180928009
Don't you mean non-ADVENT cities? The Reapers thing is that they live off-grid in the old, abandoned cities.

>>180928565
Yeah I typed that out wrong

>>180928387
I missed this Descartes meme.

His third largest contribution to society other than his influence on Newton and the Cartesian coordinate system.

>>180928658
No problem anon, that shit happens.

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>>180926024

Ah yes, """"""""""Reapers""""""""""

>>180926406
13 ability points? We payday now?

>>180928978
A group of skilled marksmen allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissed that claim.

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>>180928687

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>>180929982

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>>180914479
Reminds me of this. Whoever snuck "all women" into their mod is a genius.

>>180930149
I miss Mutons doing intimidation checks, I feel like I've been getting a lot less panicks than in EW or LW1

>>180930346
Intimidate was bullshit

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>>180930424
Panick makes the game fun

>>180930562
No it just makes me waste revival protocol

>>180930562
>Panick makes the game fun
incorrect. At least not in X1. Freaking the fuck out and crying for mommy? Alright I can dig it. Taking carefully aimed shots at your flanked team mates? That's some serious bullshit.

>log into steam
>fire up the alternate launcher
>all but two of my mods have been deleted
>re-subscribing doesn't help
What do?

>>180930724
In XCOM 2 they can panic nade too. Memester wounded like 12 guys in a prerelease bagel stream

>>180930801
are they downloading in the steam client? I haven't used the alt launcher since it corrupted my LW2 save

>>180930860
Yeah the panic nading is something else. I don't think they shoot friendlies anymore though? Kinda bizarre to remove shooting and add nading.

>>180930969
Yeah. Through the workshop. Unless they've all been thrown up on Nexus, I don't where else to get them.

>>180930860
someone post that gatecrasher wipe

>>180931207
Are you getting the same result with the stock launcher?

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Anyone know what the deal is with this?

I added some mods into the mods directory from Loverslab but they don't seem to have any filesize which leads me to believe they might not work, tried restarting/refreshing but it doesn't seem to do anything

>>180931238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOI11iDbGoI

8 Minutes in

>ayys can get knocked unconscious

>>180931378
The ones I tried to resub to come up as <unnamed mod> in the stock launcher.

>Shadow concealment is literally the stealth gimmick from that one guys stealth weapon mod
>Claymores are literally just EU/EW Proxy mines

I sure hope this 'expansion' doesn't cost more than the reinforcement pack.

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>>180932934
I swear to god you morons should read for once in your lives.

>>180932934
>developer likes the fandom's ideas so much he makes them official aspects of the game
>this is bad for some reason

>>180932934
>Claymores are literally just EU/EW Proxy mines
Are you an idiot or something? And X2 already has proxy mines.

>>180929031
The new AP system gives you points for killing enemies in certain ways. The AWC is out, and is replaced with a training center that uses these points so each soldier can buy one of four abilities here. You have to decide whether to use your points on your hero unit(s), or on your regular soldier.

>>180932934
>literally
As opposed to figuratively, you stupid shit?

>>180933417
It's actually closer to figuratively here.

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/xgc/ is the easiest place to farm (You)s.
Everyone is so stupid and replies to the most obvious shit

>>180933745
No I don't.

>>180933745

>>180933745
Some people are legitimately retarded and need to be put in their place.

@180933745
what now fuckboy?

>>180933079
But if anon read, anon wouldn't have a reason to act like a butthurt manchild, and how else is he supposed to claw meaning from his life?

But yes, English comprehension is not anon's strong point, since the Reaper Shadow ability is actually somewhat different (although having some similarities, and as >>180933138 this is not actually a bad thing) and Claymores are abso-fucking-lutely nothing like X1's proxy mines, considering those are already in-game as a 1:1 copy.

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>>180931658
Well, I restarted steam and the mods will download now, but I'll have to reinstall them individually and probably cancel my current campaigns since I don't remember which mods I was using. Thanks mod launcher.

>>180926024
Holy shit everything about this looks amazing.

>>180934185
That's why I stopped using the alternate launcher. Lost a campaign to it more than once.

>>180921361
PES hates me

what's with everyone's hardon on the VSS vintorez? even PUBG added this terrible weapon, and surprise, a 9mm sniper is absolute dogshit.

I guess this is the return of the cheeki breeki memes.

>>180935194
It's a vintorez? I thought it was supposed to be a sci-fi Dragunov?
Anyway, it's because of the whole Russia STRONK CHEEKI BREEKI internet circlejerk that has come to be due to games like STALKER.

I don't get the fuss anyway, we already have them via mods.

>>180935194
>9x39 is anything like 9x19 Parabellum
You have no idea what you're talking about.

That rifle is an SVD

In XCom 2, is having a Grenadier with Shredder and Salvo good for when you're fighting enemies with more than one armor point, since grenades only shred one armor each?

>>180935594
Advanced grenades and higher weapon tiers shred more, but I still use shredder/salvo.

>>180935594
A grenadier with shredder and AP rounds is godly

>>180935194
>9mm sniper
I give it a 9/19, excellent bait

>>180934185
>cancel my current campaigns since I don't remember which mods I was using.
You can save modlists though, wouldn't that prevent this?

>>180935194
Because it was one of the absolute best guns in STALKER.

Accurate, silent, capable of automatic fire and used a round that absolutely ate through anything short of an exoskeleton.

>>180936293
If the mods were deleted, I doubt it. Not to mention that I never actually organized my mods.

The Repel the ADVENT Assault in City Center missions in Long War 2 are supposed to lose missions, right?

>>180937545
Are you saying you are supposed to lose them? Idk, I beat mine, but I've only run that mission once.

>>180937976
How? It's Swarming+++, constant reinforcements start appearing by turn 4, and Relay is 3+ turns away and surrounded by pods

>>180937545
They're beatable. Once the relay goes down it's a mop up job

Anyone else notice the new Predator aesthetics in the Reaper trailer? I'd post a screenshot but every time I post an image the site shits itself trying to upload.

>>180938313

I'm not sure what you mean by predator aesthetics. Do you mean it looks kinda like nightvision when they use their abilities? And that's kinda like Predator heat vision? Or do you just mean the looks of the new tilesets?

>>180937545
Nope, I only had to do one and I won it. In essence you can treat them like the Avenger Defense mission; turtle up to deal with the enemy hordes while sending a couple of soldiers off to deal with the beacon, then switch to mop-up. You've just got civilians to worry about as well.

>>180938489
No, the scene with the Tier 2 sniper shooting the claymore. New body parts for Predator armor

>>180938560

Oh. Yeah that makes more sense.

>>180938313
>>180938560
Huh? That's just the T2 grappling hook suit.

>>180938647
>>180938560
That's the spider suit

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tried to make the andromedon helmet into something nice but it's hard due to the 1 color (yellow)

>>180939264
>>180939057
Really?

I guess it's been a long time since I used one.

>>180940287
Doesn't look too bad actually.

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>>180940441

>just got two Elerium Cores from a Viper

Oh frabjus day! Caloot collay! Two more and I'll have a set of six W.A.R. Suits and can start researching ammo and shit.

>>180940532

My problem with all those helmets is the lack of a neck covering area, so without some turtleneck torso they all look shit imo.

>>180940847
>got FOUR more Cores from the Supply Raid mission the other two Cores were from

W.AAAAAAAAAAA.RRRRRRRRR.

Now, what weapons should I research with the remaining to Cores, the addons for the Suits or some special ammo variants?

>>180940847
>only researching ammo after getting 6 (SIX) WAR suits
What the fug am I reading

>flashbangs don't reveal you

holy fug thats op

>>180941275
What's wrong with having six W.A.R. Suits?

>>180941490
what

>>180941668

I mean activate pods, I launched one with a grenade launcher onto 2 najas and a codex and they didn't activate. Pretty cool.

>>180941741
were they outside of any of your unconcealed soldier's LOS? cuz thats common

I fucking hate that dock map in EW. I swear that map is cursed.
>Almost always ends in squadwipe.
>Multiple pods seem to hang out together.
>Disoriented thinmints fire at my guys at literally 1% chance and still manage to hit.
>Panic checks always fail.
>Soldiers forget how to aim.
>Even when I savescum I have problems with the map.
>I don't even want to talk about terror missions.

My most recent mission ended just like the others.
>Reach the AO.
>Slowly move forward, already dreading what will come.
>Pod of 4 sectoids activates.
>Fire fight goes well, only two remains somewhere in the fog of war.
>It's the Ayy's turn.
>Thinmint pod out of nowhere.
>It's sitll not that bad.
>Floaters join the party.
>At least they are close to each other I can throw some 'nades at them.
>Sectiod successfully Psi panics my engineer.
>Two rookies also panic
>The other sectoid successfully mindfrays my rocketeer.
>The remaining three soldiers doesn't have any explosives or flashbangs.
>Decide to extract my guys.
>Trow some smoke at the most exposed soldiers and pull back the non-panicking soldiers.
>Send Scout first.
>Thinmint Overwatch kills him through smoke and Lightning Reflexes.
>The others make it back to the Skyranger safely. They are close enough for a quick extraction.
>Ayy's turn again.
>Engineer gets killed throught smoke and hunker down.
>Thinmints spit acid at one of the rookie.
>The other one is injured and supressed.
>Rocketeer barely survives with one hp.
>My turn.
>Poisoned rookie panics again.
>Rocketeer is two slow.
>Can't remove the supression from the other rookie.
>Ayys are closing in.
>Decide send the rookie out since if she doesn't move she will be dead by the next turn anyway.
>She dies.
>Ayy turn
>Rookie dies.
>Engineer dies.
>I manage to send the last two soldiers to the Skyranger and they get home safely.
If I ever get a mission on that map again I'll just ignore it.

Fuck, I can't decide between Blast Padding and Shredder. Is having one point of bonus armor and 66% damage reduction from explosions worth it over getting rid of up to 3 enemy armor and more with AP rounds equipped from using your normal weapon, and since I have multiple Grenadiers should I only do it with one of them or go whole hog with a team of armor-shredding Grenadiers?

>>180941204
SPARKs.

>>180942241
Are SPARKs worth using? Seen some mixed opinions about them here.

>>180942393
download mods to make them better
otherwise no

>>180942393
They need mods to stand up to modded ayys, but otherwise they're good enough.

>>180942393
Never had a problem with them myself. I don't use the Machine Over Flesh mod for them either, it'd be nice if the upgrades from it were items that couldn't be applied all at once, like in LW1, but I think having them applied all at once is OP.

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>>180880857
Gollop looks thin-man like.

>blacksite data coordinates
>advanced officer
>ADVENT heavy gunner
>ENEMY UNKNOWN
>Codex
>ENEMY UNKNOWN
>ENEMY UNKNOWN

I'm scared

>>180943308
its just sectopods and gatekeepers, no big deal

>>180943308
If it is the gate one, it also has chryssalids.

>>180943609
>>180943405

I haven't met either of those so that's probably the most plausible

It's the Forge one, I think the portal is the Codex coordinates which are out my reach for now.

What's the approximate date when you get fucked over by undiscovered avatar in long dong 2?

>>180943792
Just liberate your first region by month 3 and then find out for yourself.

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Look, /xcg/! I finally built a PC capable of sustaining 60fps in this piece of shit game!

I missed you fucks, was scared to search for this thread because I thought you might've died off. How y'all been?

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>>180880857
>>180942809
WATCH OUT JAKE

>>180943979
Not even close to dead desu, so things are going pretty well. Expansion in August, so you're just in time.

>>180937545
Pavonis is memeing you. You need a concealment sniper and a shinobi spotter to sneak by while the rest of your team is fighting through the pods. Take out the relay (mine is bugged so it can be one shotted) via sniping and and the rest of the mission is mopup, hoping you don't lose too many haven members.

>>180943979
I have a similar rig yet my FPS is all over the place, what's your secret?

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Nice COG armor is being worked on.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=955890973&searchtext=

>>180943609
>>180943405
>>180943697

The 3rd was the archon king...

Is this thing OP?

>>180942229
Shredder is better

>>180945621
I wouldn't worry too much about that guy

>>180945621
Well it's basically an Archon where blazing pinions is actually useful

>>180943979
>SLI 1080 TI
>for 1080p
Goddamn, you triggered me hard.

>>180946998
Look again, buddy

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>>180946998
Congratulations, you triggered yourself

Can I ignore the Alien Hunters starting mission for awhile? I didn't know I;d be unleashing such nightmares into my game.

>>180947796
You can start it anytime you want.

>>180946998
>2560*1440@144hz
>1920*1080@240hz
but nah it's overkill lul
Actually you can't play a game on two screens, so I guess that the 1440p one is for surfing and movies? Kind of a waste with 144hz for that one though

>>180947796

Yeah you can ignore it. Same for Shen's tower.

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>>180948029
>>180947624
>>180947123
mea culpa

>>180948029
I play Overwatch on a tournament level and got the 240hz screen for that, while I use the 1440p @ 144hz for general gaming. I swap the two around a lot. It's great, I like it much better than 4k @60hz.

>>180947796
You can ignore it until right before assaulting network tower if you want - or just not do it. A lot of anons do.

>>180948821
Ficki Ficki ay lamao!

>>180940698
Well shit, I suppose I'm just stupid.

I hope they add in new shit for Predator armor anyway, it really needs variety

Should I train a lot of troops, or focus on one 6-person team to max level?

>>180949712
Nah dawg you ain't stupid, not everyone is a mega autist who retains information about silly shit.

>>180950045
For vanilla, a small elite team is ideal.

>>180950073
Normally I'm one of those autists

>burning Mutons can still parry melee

do I scream at Jake or do I scream at Lump?

>>180952119
Well in LW2, burning disable shooting, not melee. Hope that answers your question.

>>180952119
Lump for not explaining that he changed how burning works in LW2 vs vanilla

>muh localization
fuck off lump, that isn't a valid excuse for withholding information

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>defend haven mission
>4 to 5 enemies drop every turn
>faceless right at the start

haha good one guys

>>180949712

Maybe, they add new cosmetic stuff with each expansion.

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>>180952529

Only saved 3 guys, lost the haven advisor soldier, lost one of my best soldiers, everyone else got fucked up. Thanks lump

https://xcom.com/news/entries/xcom-2-war-of-the-chosen-the-reaper

>>180952529
I never found Haven Defense missions that hard. Bring a Shinobi to round up the civilians and use the rest of the squad to wipe each pod as it arises. So long as you're able to stop enemies piling up it's an absolute cakewalk, especially if you drop near a large building in the corner you can castle up and overwatch from.

>>180948835
EU? What class?

dabvent

>>180926406
I'm curious as to what the purpose of the "combat intelligence: above average" is all about.

>>180952798
That's what I usually do, but on my last one, half the reinforcements spawned outside of my LoS in a really good position, and the map was so huge that my shinobi could barely reach half the haven members that weren't already at the extract zone and get back within six rounds, at which point the reinforcements consisted of ten or more units; I left at least 20 behind. Did they ramp up the speed of those missions in 1.3 or 1.4?

>>180954162
The Faction soldiers all gain Ability Points (AP) when they rank up, so you can always purchase at least one ability from their new rank.
Each soldier also has a new "Combat Intelligence", which modifies how much AP they earn at each rank. Smarter soldiers earn more AP, so they can buy more abilities.
And on top of that, you can then choose to spend any extra AP you've earned from combat (listed as "XCOM AP" on the promotion screen) to purchase additional abilities.
Very possible to unlock all of the abilities if you really invest in one soldier, or if they're super smart
Base game soldiers also have Combat Intelligence and gain AP when they rank up, but you can't access their "expanded" skill tree and spend it until you build the Training Center.

>>180954162

Maybe it means the intended difficulty of the class.

That or some bonus.

>>180954541
Ah, that makes sense. So I guess all soldiers will roll for their combat intelligence, then? But are they stuck with that modifier or can it be improved?

Making two Sharpshooters, does one specializing in Pistols and one specializing in Sniping sound good?

Can I fuck around in XCOM 2 like in EW when panic is low enough and the temple ship assault is ready, or am I forced to end the game due to the avatar project?

112 new things in XCOM 2: War of the Chosen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpLcPIWqK18

>>180955147
You can't reach the complete safety you could achieve in X1

>>180955106
Depends on difficulty, but anything lower than legendary, go for it.

>>180955147
You can fuck around as long as the avatar project is kept at bay. So basically keep a facility or one of the story missions at hand to prolong the game further when the doom clock fills up.

>>180954541

So full on RPG stuff.

Makes losing a soldier a kick to the nuts, wouldn't it?

>>180955248

>alien kings nerfed
>won't react if you perform an action out of their LoS
>have to attack a certain map for each ruler for the ruler to appear in normal missions

gay

>>180955248
>base assault by the chosen
oooooooh baby

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>>180955248
>112
>there's a similar video for Total Warhams 2, but it only lists 7 things

>>180955248
>AWC split into 3 facillities
In that case i hope they make it so you can build more buildings, otherwise it'll get cramped after a while

>>180955248
>reapers have 50% more movement range while in shadow mode

jesus fuck

>>180881163
>pistols are useful

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619472697

>>180955248
>the sex number
If only Beagle cared as much about the xcom community as they cared about him.

>>180955248
Photo booth sounds fucking great, can't wait for that one

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>>180955248
>112 things
>It is actually 112 things

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>>180955248
>soldier can go berserk and take multiple shots against enemies for a turn or two if their bondmate dies.
Neat. Hope it comes with some new voice lines.

>>180955248
>Performance fixes incoming
The mad man is actually doing it, Jake is fixing his game.

>>180957262
About motherfucking time, tired of my framerates dancing all over the place and outright pausing sometimes.

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>>180955248
>ability points let you unlock skills from both branches
>and other classes
Oh boy

>>180957801
No more choosing between those skills you wish you could take together. Finally, I can take Rupture and Saturation Fire. Or I could get Rapid Fire on my freaking Psi Ops so they could do something when their abilities are down.

Frankly though, I think the Templar sounds pretty dope. Like an Xcom version of a Jedi with that deflection and reflection perk. It really sounds like Templar will be the ultimate tank in the late game, run him out into the middle of the field and watch enemies waste shots against him while he just Lightning Storms them.

have they said if WotC will include any enemies that aren't chosen/faction/whatever related? like Muton Elites, for example

>>180958161
There's a new enemy that clones your soldiers and turns them against you, but no "Muton Elites" and stuff like that. Keep on using the Long War enemy pack for that sort of thing.

>>180958161
Just Spectres and New Advent

>>180958161
click on the first link in the op, we get a few new advent and a new alien called the spectre.

>>180958286
>>180958268

That's a shame, XCOM2 lacked any real "terrifying" enemies to me. Muton Elites always did that for me.

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>>180957801
>>180958147
>shadowstrike + faceoff sharpshooters everywhere

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>reinforcements arriving
>gas grenade
>incendiary grenade
>acid grenade

Eat shit

>Mission going well
>Ay lamao behind cover
>Its okay it's only one
>Move troops to surround
>Somehow, out of 4 soldiers only one even has the option to shoot
>Shoot with 75% chance, basically no chance at all
>Guess i have to take an enemy dice role here
>Mind controls grenadier
>fml
>Ranger panicks from seeing mind control, no close up easy kill for me
>fantastic
>Also only have one turn to destroys data shit
>Nobody has a shot at it either
>Decide I'll fail the mission so squad doesn't wipe
>A cash register on a plywood counter is "hard cover" for the alien
>Grenade it
>Cash register STRONK MACHINE DON'T TAEK NO SHIT FROM GRENADES
>Miss 88% chance to finish off alien
>Two sergeants die from full cover shots next turn
>Alien has option to shot people that don't have the option to shoot him back
>"Fair"


I would like this game a lot more if so much retarded shit didn't happen. I'm fine with taking my lumps for mistakes or bad luck. But there's too many times when just retarded shit happens, that is clearly just the game fucking up.

>Captured XCOM guy in truck
>Aliens just shoot him through truck when it hasn't been opened or damaged

>Get shot through floor

>get shot out of total darkness when HUGE FUCKING ROBOT THAT CAN'T EVEN TAKE COVER isn't even visible

>3 guys on over watch
>Aliens runs directly through them, taking time to gentle rest his nuts on each XCOM soldiers face and gives them a playful smack on the tush
>No one takes over-watch shots


The fuck is wrong with LOS in the game? I feel like there are so many times when I move a soldier, I try to keep hard cover and big shit not between shots, and pray to god I'm actually allowed to even attempt a shot.

At this point I'm like fuck it, give me all rangers and grenadiers and I'll just bum rush every fucking alien with shotguns and grenades.

>>180955248
>Double Agent

That is fucking awesome. I just know that is going to save so many missions.

>pod of stunlancer, shieldbearer, two heavy mecs rolls around the corner
>already facing a muton and a sectoid, said sectoid has mind controlled your best solider
>stunlancer suddenly rushes toward your group, pulls out his stun prod
>jams it right into the sectoid, unconscious

Thank you stun bro

>>180958161

I just want them to bring back SHIVs

But yeah I get you, some variation on regular aliens would be neat

>>180958715

I was always expecting to meet Plasma using Advent soldiers, but they never did come. It would make them much more fearsome and less fodder-tier. A shame just the genuine aliens have plasma weaponry. Even the ADVENT mecs use magnetic weaponry, I think.

>>180958848
their damge,health, and other stats do get upgraded, its just they don't look different.

>>180958848
>It would make them much more fearsome and less fodder-tier
Statistically, advent troopers are the most fearsome of all the advent forces, scoring about double the kills of the closest ayy, mutons.

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How is it possible for Jake to fix his game so hard? I mean, the game isn't out yet so it could turn out to be shit but all of these features sound fucking great.