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Asymmetrical Slasher Series General /assg/

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RIP Double XP Edition

>What is Dead by Daylight?
Asymmetrical multiplayer slasher game where 4 survivors scramble to fix 5 generators, while 1 killer wants to sacrifice all of them.
http://www.deadbydaylight.com
http://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Dead_by_Daylight_Wiki

>What is Friday the 13th?
A slasher game featuring Jason and counselors. 7 counselors with different stats and abilities try to escape the camp while Jason kills them one by one.
http://f13game.com

>What is Last Year?
Beta coming this August, Class based with weaker killers.
http://www.lastyearthegame.com

>Discord Chat
https://discord.gg/Eb3WFHz

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dbdgeneral

>Latest Patch Notes (DbD)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/2741975115062342321/

>Skill Check Simulator (DbD)
www.mistersyms.com/tools/gitgud/

>Latest Patch Notes (F13)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/438740/discussions/0/12918172084960


Dead thread: >>180642627
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Does anyone fucking know what sometimes I get notifiers (like fast vaults and skill check fails) while people are healing?
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>>180856434
This is why I started playing Nurse. Too bad my only perks on her are Deerstalker 3, Thantaphobia 3 and Nurses Calling 2. I'll probably use my Stridor 1 once I unlock fourth slot since I still haven't gotten Whispers on her.
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>>180856992
Intended feature they added a couple month ago.
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>>180857342

It doesn't seem like it's always in the game, and my friends and I tested in a private lobby. I hit him, he ran on the other side of the building and failed a healing skill check, but I got no notifier like 3 times.
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>Being a slow character isn't fun
>Fast characters can't repair, so I have to rely on other people for everything
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swimwear dlc literally when?
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>>180857407
>>Fast characters can't repair, so I have to rely on other people for everything
It doesnt matter how long it takes to repair if Jason can never catch anyone in the lobby.

Get fucked Deb and AJ players, tiffany and vanessa are bottom bitches
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Hey guys just bought DbD looking to get the DLC if i like the base game what killers or survivors are good for newbies?
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>>180857506
Soon, if the devs want the game to survive.
>>180857718
The hell are you talking about?
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>>180856814
>He was never OP. He is barely stronger than the Wraith, even with M&A.
>an ability that can give you free NOED
>not OP
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DSP cosmetic literally when?
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>>180858437
>free
He must stalk survivors in order to receive it. That's not free in any way.
It's also lasts 60 seconds, tells everyone he has it and makes his terror radius bigger. Hardly OP
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>>180858536
>DSP prefers DbD to F13
>Mains survivor

hmmmm...
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>>180857790
>The hell are you talking about?
He's saying that you can take as long as you need to repair objectives if Jason can never catch you or anyone else because they're playing characters that are fast.
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>>180859009
Killer FPS is horrendous on console.
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>>180859050
Nonsense. You fuck up one prompt of the repair as Buggzy and now Jason is chasing you. And Jason can catch anyone, it just takes longer if you're a fast character.
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>>180859140

You literally can't catch people jumping into the hatch because the animation skips every single time
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>>180859140
There's no reason DbD can't run at 60fps on consoles. Frog coding.
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>>180859152
>You fuck up one prompt of the repair as Buggzy and now Jason is chasing you
Okay, so you just out run him until the other fast players fuck up and he chases them instead, and then you repeat until shit gets done or the timer runs out
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>>180859705
Which brings me back to my previous point that if I play a fast character I have to rely on other people to do repairs.
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>people are still posting about flavor of the month f13 game
I'm going to have to move to the dbd sub, they actually talk about the game.
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>>180858971
>what is 99%
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>>180860152
Don't come back
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>>180860152
>instead of trying to talk about the game, better talk about thread quality.
You're not a solution, you are the problem
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>>180857396
I don't think they ever listed it in the patch notes. Maybe it's just luck based.
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>>180860152
Please leave and don't come back.
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>>180857396
It's still intended, it might be bugged, wouldn't be a surprise.
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lol
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>>180857746
Halloween is good for in terms of killer and survivor alike - Decisive Strike might pop up in the shrine, but I don't remember how long ago it was on rotation. But survivors are no more than skins really, only killers vary in abilities. Feng Min has Lithe which is a good perk for chases, Ace is lackluster.

But generally Halloween > Mud and Blood > Sparks of Mind
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>>180860910
Sent you a code friend ;)
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>>180860910
Why not just wait until your next paycheck since you own over 100+ games?
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>>180860670
Remember when they wanted to add a kick mechanic to stun killers who face camped to finally discourage it?

Remember that?
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>>180860152
>dbd sub
enjoy killercucks taking over every thread about how bad they have it
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>>180860997
you made me check....that was rude :')

>>180861050
Lots of them came from Humble Bundle so its not like im earning money anon
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>>180857746
There are only 3 non-cosmetic DLCs. The Halloween Chapter, Of Flesh and Mud, and Spark of Madness.
Of Flesh and Mud comes with the Hag who's pretty fun but you'll get varying responses on how powerful she is.
Spark of Madness comes with the Doctor who has my favorite killer design and a kit that can be cancerous af if you're feeling mean.
Halloween Chapter comes with Mikey. I haven't played him yet but some of the stuff that affects his powers are insane.
IMHO, None of the DLC survivors have perks that are ABSOLUTELY necessary but I recommend you look over their "Teachable" perks before you level them if you can't wait to get them off the shrine. Other than those perks, different survivors are basically just skins but I'm a cosmetic fag. Ace is my waifu
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>>180860910
F13 fags being so fucking poor they resort to beg

At least DbD anons buyts their own games
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>>180861526
>Lots of them came from Humble Bundle
Yes but there's money being put into buying Humble Bundle games soooooo where's it coming from??
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>>180861192
>dive bomb hook
>circle around it until they get a kick stun
>unhook

No thanks
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>>180861775
1 buck is too much for you?

Of course I earn some little money here and there but I had to resort to cheap games because of that
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>>180861923
No but 40$ is for someone I don't know at all.
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>>180862283
*$40.
The dollar sign comes at the start. Cent signs come after.

Fucking Americans.
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>>180861817
Its okay to leave a hook you shitty killer.
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>>180862778
>dude just leave it's not like the survivors are waiting just out of sight to come in and unhook xD
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>>180862283
But that's not what you asked, you said how I earned so many games, I never said you should buy me the game, neither did I shout your name or anything, if you want to troll me then yeah I dont mind but you just want to argue
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>>180862778
>dive bombs hook
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>>180862778
such a weak bait-
>>180862881
fuck
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>>180861690
lol no they don't, I've seen at least a dozen people begging for dbd and DLC on epib bee already.
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>Someone glitched into some unused room in the Higgins Haven lodge on the top floor.

Is this new? I haven't seen it before.
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gift me F13 i'm a girl ;)
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I kind of want to beg for Spark of Madness but I dunno if I'd actually take someone up on it even if they were willing, never done the e-beggar thing before without wanting to at least pay someone back eventually.
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>>180862881
>>180862923
>>180862963
>Bad killers who refuse to leave
Just leave.
Just.
Fucking.
Leave.
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>>180863713
Are you a qt?
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Is this the e-beggar thread? Still sucking dick for Street Meg
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>>180856858
want me to dump it for F13?
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>>180863443
Yeah it is, meta-gamers are the most unfun bastards to play with.

Sorry for the low-quality, for some reason it won't export this one video in higher quality.
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>>180863713
The only girls who come to this general already have it.
Better luck next time, Steven.
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One idea that would fix Jason.
>temporarily disable sense ability after stunning/using pocket knife
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>>180864309
ehh??? Fucking moot
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>>180864309
fucking jap moot indeed
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>>180864332
Exploits are not meta.
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>>180864637
Is this from Freddy vs Jason vs Ash? Is that comic good?
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>>180864747
its not that bad but they def fucked up some Freddy things, Ash is still comic fodder, just nice to see once in a while
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>>180864854
I'm a big Evil Dead and F13th fan so I was really wondering if it does the characters justice
>Is Ash at least still witty like in the movies and show?
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>>180864232
I can pretend I am...
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where can I find F13 nude models? Asking for a friend
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>>180860152

>people like something different from me reeeee
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is it hook camping to leave, put down a trap at the pallet and then go back and hit the survivor just as someone takes them off?

when does it become camping
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>>180867519
just play how you want everyone else does
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>>180861584
>that spoiler

Anon, I didn't know you had good taste
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>People don't like the beautiful majesty of the swamp
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>>180867519
This guide should help.


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831047954
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>>180867519
camping is staying at the hook without being given a reason : no survivors found or heard near, gates aren't powered yet, nothing to destroy nearby. what you describe is not camping, a lot of people rush hooks because of high numbers of camping though
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>>180868263
>a lot of people rush hooks to get an easy 1500 points though

Fixed that for you friend.
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is the wraith just the worst on purpose?
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>play Killer
>constantly memed on (Borrowed Time, Sprint Burst, Self-Care, black t-shirt Claudettes)
>premades out the ass
>rare that you face a solo queue beyond Rank 10

>play Survivor
>waiting 15mins past Rank 10 to get a killer
>Killer ragequits anyway because teammates keep looping, infiniting and other bullshit
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>>180869304
this is something that pisses me off to no end
people always complain about camping and wraith is literally designed to camp and be the best at it, his ability is camping BUT SOMEHOW HE IS SHIT?
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>got 44 levels this weekend
how did you fare?
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>be a smart character and repair things that let other people escape
>Jason gets mad and tunnels you and since you're slow and have low stamina you die
>you get 100-155 xp

>be a fast character that relies on smart characters to be able to escape
>be able to juke Jason and escape
>get 200 xp

It's all kinds of fucked up.

Without people who can repair no objectives get done, but those repair characters are basically sacrifices and get less out of the match.

I guess this is why I mostly fix the boat and fuck off by myself or maybe take whoever's lucky enough to notice me doing it and is close with me as long as they stay quiet. I don't even take walkie talkies anymore.

and fuck it when a Vanessa drops a fuse in front of me and tries to lead me to the phone box. That's gotten me killed far too often to be worth it. Yeah it'd be nice to help everyone escape but not if I don't get to escape too.
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>>180869464
>cant one hit

>has a I can't hurt you alarm
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>>180869672
Devs said they'll change his bell so that it can only be heard in proximity. Which is how it should have been from the very beginning, nothing fucks over a killer more than me literally knowing if you're in a chase or patroling constantly.
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>>180869643
Never do anything out of hunger. Not even eating.
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>>180869454
>play survivor
>only premades over rank 8
>they don't give a shit about your solo queue ass
>one's about to be hooked the third time (the only one the killer can catch because his buddies are high ranks bringing a poor rank 20 in), they all dc and you're left there alone with the killer

I hate swf just as much as surv as I do when I'm the killer
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>>180867519

Just play the way you'd want the killer to play if you were a survivor. It's not hard.
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>>180870243
Just got out of a game like that. They'd unhook me for the Altruism and then just run around the hook to piss off the Killer. SWF was a mistake, the whole point of all the audio emphasis (heartbeat, musical cues, crows, killer noises) was so a skilled player could harness them to their advantage. SWF just snaps that in half with voice comms.
>"Killer is on me, work on gens"
>"I'm at the pallet, don't come for me yet."
>"Killers gone, come heal me at [x location]"
>I'm opening this exit gate

Limit 2 people per lobby on SWF, that way at least two survivors are solo.
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>>180864991
Art quality jumps a lot, you can say some things seems rushed and others just plain good, but Ash is as witty as always, they really focused on Jason doing the killings thou
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>>180870819

I'm convinced that third-party voice chat is the biggest balance problem DBD has. Even pallet looping, though desperately unfun, can be countered, but voice chat lets everyone work with perfect coordination and utilize every minute the killer spends with 100% efficiency.
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So I realized I never want to rank up in DbD, So I let a team of survivors get the generators so i can derank but they've just been running around instead of leaving for 5 minutes now.
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>>180872686
disconnect and lose rank. they dont get 5000 for escaping either
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SO MANY FUCKING PALLETS I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME
BLOOD LUST NEVER FUCKING WORKS THEY JUST KEEP LOOPING AND RUNNING TO MORE PALLETS FUCKING SHIT GAME
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>>180874157
Get enduring or Brutal Strength
Break pallets right off the bat
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>>180874157
sounds like you need to git gud
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DSP raging hard as killer.
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>>180874424
fuck it if someone loops me for more than a minute I'm quitting I just bought this fucking game I don't have any of those perks but everyone I play has VERY RARE everything really fucking loving it.

>>180874494
fuck you faggot
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>>180862778
Seriously though, I pull +25k bloodpoints as the Nurse almost ever match. I let unhooks happen, and as they all heal up I smack their gens down. I just repeat this until everyone gets hooked 3 times. I'm currently a rank 4 killer too.

Try hard face camping is not fun for anyone.
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>>180874851
>fuck it if someone loops me for more than a minute I'm quitting I just bought this fucking game I don't have any of those perks but everyone I play has VERY RARE everything really fucking loving it.
What killer are you even playing?
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>>180872849
>They do.
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>>180874851
you just bought it and rank 20s pallet loop you? you're either very unlucky and get swf groups with rank 20 leaders or you're really bad. rank 20 get so spooked they crouch next to walls and run out to the edge of the map, they don't fucking loop shit.
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>Jason hard camps the 2 seater while the 4 seater is fixed and gets away full and the cops are called

Why do people who don't understand this game get jason over me? I can't fucking stand it.
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>>180872849
>they dont get 5000 for escaping either
They do though.
>When you think you've been a smart BM'er all this time but in reality you're just a retard
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>>180875056
I've only tried trapper and wraith so far, trapper is okay but traps feel like luck if anything, wraith is. the bell is fucking stupid what's the point of sneaking up on people if they just hear me.

>>180875424
The highest I've gotten was Rank 8 and a bunch of others, I used to think people were memeing about this game and how people can waste the killers time but oh boy was i fucking wrong. I'm rank 18 as a killer I had 1 perk everyone I'm facing has 3 sometimes I play against people my speed but there's always the games where the game decides I must fight a rank 10 and at that point I really wonder what I'm even doing, exit gates power up and I just say fuck it rate the match a 1 be angry for awhile and just sigh.
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>>180875027
You sound like a retard who doesn't know the differences between face camping and patrolling a hook.

>I'm currently a rank 4 killer too.

Ranking up as killer is a joke. It literally means nothing.
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>>180875926
shhh spread false info to console players
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>>180876034
This will teach you to try to be a killercuck
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>>180876223
Seriously. I'm a rank 9 killer and I don't know the last time I had a 4k. I always let them unhook unless the gates are powered, because at that point I literally have nothing else to do but patrol a hook. Sometimes they shit all over me, and I pip down, but I can double pip just by playing 'OK' the next round. And I play all except for Wraith (bullied to tears) and Billy (mouse sensitivity fucks all over my aim).
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>>180876707
i hope f13 gets fixed and your trash game dies. i really do. then when all the killers are gone you'll be happy
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>>180877532
>i hope f13 gets fixed

How do you fix a rotten apple?
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>>180877740
They'd need to redo the apple(jason) from scratch, thankfully it's not an organic piece of a fruit but computer code so that's not impossible.
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>>180868146
And to you too.
Just today I noticed he winks at the person to his left in lobby
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>>180877532
F13 won't ever get fixed though. The blatant bugs, sure, but not the gameplay.
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Is there a trapper strategy video other than one thats "put traps near pallets"
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>>180878262
Does he? Damn that's cute. I can't help it, if I see him or Bill needing help during the game I have to go out of my way to go save them.

One of the reasons I'd really dig having a DbD comic or shorts or whatever. It'd be nice to know more about the survivor's personalities.
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Have any of you tried White Noise or Damned? How do they compare with F13 and dbd? Is there like... a comparison of the genre?

I like dbd but I feel like f13 has more exploration stuff- tho I hear the engine is weird and feels clunky/slow at time which sounds frustrating as fuck. I'm curious if White Noise 2 is worth?
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so why isn't f13 half off yet? is there a legitimate reason?
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>>180878672
The game has been out for a month. A month.
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>>180877532

The only thing they need to change about Jason is limiting Grab to Rage Mode, which would give combat stance an actual use and make it so most of the kills where later in the game instead of the first 3 minutes of instachoke

It's really kind of sad to see how much potential the game has with the stun mechanics, but there's no point using them because jason instakills you for the same price as wounding you
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>>180878832
It's a good thing you're not in charge of the game. You'd turn it into a game where every single Jason is part 3 hacking people to death.
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>>180878774

Dow 3 is 25% off and it's been out two weeks or some shit
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>>180878672
They're not realizing people are getting over it already and it needs fresh blood.
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>>180878909

You can outrun jason, especially with the perk that enables your radar even when scared

The start of the game when jason is just powering up shouldn't be based entirely on luck, that's all

if jason teleports to my house within the first 30 seconds of a round starting I just dc or let him kill me, there's no point
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>play myers
>all i did was use my stalk in the general vicinity to bait the survivors
>one guy at the end says thats how you play a douche myers

What the fuck did i even do? I didn't camp at all I caught the last person because i saw some scratch marks nearby so i doubled back.
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>>180877861
It's not impossible but it still won't happen. The devs have a "vision" and don't seem to care that their vision sucks.
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>>180878672

>not using the correct version.
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>>180878943
Two months, and it had a poor reception. Mixed reviews even now.
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>>180879285
>Survivors whining
Death,Taxes, Etc.
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>>180878672
>Game is only worth $25 dollars
>bumped up to $40 because of a super shit licensing deal and the devs need to jew every cent they can
>Expecting it to go on sale
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>>180879828

>AAA single player game with 8-12 hours of content
>worth $60

>Multiplayer game that people play for hundreds of hours
>not worth $40

If you played for more than 40 hours, it's worth it.
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>>180880245
Games are compared relative to their competition. F13 is compared to other multiplayer games which offer far more content and variety for the same or even lower price.
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>>180874851
>>180875056

This guy's post is a really good example of why all perks, on both sides, should be baseline, and bloodweb should be addons and items only.

The more content that gets added, the less likely growth is, because the grind is SO fucking bad if you haven't already been playing for ages.

Alternatively cheat engine your blood points my dude.
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is there any plan to lower F13's price?
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>>180880632
is there any plan for you to stop being a cheap asshole?
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>>180880245
I've played dbd for over 500 hours. Still wouldn't say any friends to buy it if it was $40. It's just not worth that much.
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>>180880826
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are any of the hex perks good?
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>>180880632
It won't go on sale until October.
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>>180880932
Sure, if you can protect your totems, and they don't spawn right next to a survivor.
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>>180880883

I really like the jpg artifacting here. It helps me imaging this guy screaming this into a cheap microphone by simulating the blowout distortion.
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>>180880245

Multiplayer games need to be cheaper. Even if I were down to spend 40$, my friends aren't. You're talking 160$ for a four pack. Whereas dbd you can get four copies for about 50$. Which would you and your three friends pick?

Neither game has a ton of content and everything relies on replayability and how much you like the game. But if there's no playerbase, there's no game. I'll probably pick up f13 when it's 75% off or some shit and there's a little bit more content. So, like, winter? And my friends might be in and we can get a few nights out of it before we go on to whatever's next.
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>>180880584

What they ought to do is keep players with fewer than 1 million bloodpoints segregated into a nice beginner's pool. Just let people get into the game and figure things out. Once you have 1 million you ought to have a few very rare perks and all four slots open, and a few items to play with.
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>>180882278

it's been shared so many times that it's jpg'd pretty bad, but that's the classic if it becomes copypasta

>>180882613

good multiplayer games are free-15$
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>Jason plants three traps on top of each other at the phone

why the FUCK is this allowed?
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>>180882761

That would actually not be a terrible solution either, but what do you do when experienced players just family share and go rape them?
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>>180883429

I always grab spray and just spend my rounds popping jason's traps

level 66 so what the fuck do I care about xp lol
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>>180883727
Do an extra job?
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>>180883727
Not one to take hints huh?
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>>180883429

Because Jason doesn't want a 5 minute timer put on having fun.
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>>180883538

Introduce ranked and casual?
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>>180883727
>Fan base so poor they had to resort to begging.

The joke write itself
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>>180883727
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>>180882761
They are already working on 'leagues' which are supposed to function like that.
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>part 9 Jason stalk-shift grabs me less than 3 mins in

I can see the cheats are already implemented.
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Someone last thread was asking where the porn of this game was
I'm surprised Shadman hasn't jumped on this game yet, seems right up his alley
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https://youtu.be/ql3KHkHMte4
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>>180887147
What in the fuck is going on here?
>Ranged killer assets maybe??
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>Tommy steals my seat in the 2 seater

Holy shit why the fuck do Tommys feel the need to escape
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>>180886698
Would you gift me the game if I draw some?
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>>180887749
Go to /b/ if you want to endlessly beg.
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>>180887749
Not him but i'd appreciate A.J. lewds for free.
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>>180887857
This is not begging, this is having a deal
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>>180887887
Any situation in particular?

Also post the new set of clothes, well only of thats what you want
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>>180888140
Gimme a few, I didn't think i'd actually get this far.
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>>180887749

...show us your work.
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>>180888140
Alright I got it, A.J. lifting her crazy lixx shirt with a punk-esque kind of expression like showing her tongue while having pierced nipples.
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Either the devs should implement text chat or they should make it impossible to play if no mic is detected.
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>>180887749
He wanted Shadman so he's got to have extremely low standards. Just draw same-faced children with poor anatomy and tons of tattoos and piercings then slap some shitty gradient shading on it. Won't be able to tell the difference.
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>>180887653

depends, if they died then respawn as Tommy yeah they want to escape just as much as you because they still haven't gotten their escape xp.

If they escape, well then yeah you don't get any xp but you do as much as you can to help OTHERS escape.

I had a match where we fixed the 4 seater and got out, and I respawned as Tommy, and Jason was picking on the last survivor, a vanessa, so I went and fixed the 2 seater (finding the parts and keys on a body not too far away from it), drove the 2 seater over to Vanessa, let her get in, we got stopped, I told her to get in the car, and shot Jason so she could get out and then went to grab a melee weapon to get some more xp, and died fighting Jason mano a mano. That was fun.
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>bought dbd less than a week ago
>still low rank and trying to learn the game
>get matched with rank 1 who calls me braindead and tells me to "get the fuck out of rank 1" (???)
fix it pls
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>>180892527
It's ok man, I get those too.

I play killer, and I usually run into a few people who teabag me after dropping a pallet.

So I just started playing Michael and haven't looked back since.

You kind of have to adapt to the toxicity in whatever way you can.

It goes the same for both communities, DbD and F13. If people start trying to bully me as Jason in that, I just remember that you can choose to purposefully block firecrackers, bear traps and flares. More often than not, if I do get someone who is a complete cunt to me when I'm Jason, I really give it my all to just slash them to death.
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>>180892301
If I get Tommy, which is extremely rare, I see if there are any Buggzy/Adam players in the match, and more than one girl. If there are I try to get a Jason Kill going, but the retards usually aren't up for it even though it's actually easier than escaping.
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>>180891949
I wish mint rags and rusty shackles weren't so rare in the bloodweb.
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>>180893412

Getting a Jason kill requires people to all be on the same page, I just don't rely on it, I just try to get people out of there or get myself out of there if I haven't escaped yet.

If I die and then come back as Tommy about the most you can expect me to do is use my shotgun to stun Jason and then either run through the cop exit or get back in the car.

Considering I play a Deb mainly , I probably fixed the escape routes being used before dying so I already did my part in helping others out, now I'd like my escape xp too.
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>>180886698
>>180892091
>Tfw actually like some of Shads art but he ruins it by not being able to draw faces, and inserting his literal shit tier fetishes into almost everything
I like big tits and asses. Hardly check out anything of his because it's all anal piercing lolis
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>>180894054
>Getting a Jason kill requires people to all be on the same page
I would say the same thing of the car, or the police unless you get lucky.

If the police have been called, then sure, there's no reason to go for a kill. But the car is usually very difficult to get running unless all the RNG is on your side, and even in situations where the car has already been taken by one or two people, people aren't willing to go for a kill even though it's really all they've got left and there's no serious chance of getting another escape method powered.
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>>180894438

>RNG on your side

Actually the biggest limitation on fixing the car, is fucking douchebags not telling you that they saw the gas or battery in a house they checked, and they didn't pick it up because it'd leave them unarmed and their repair is shit, so they're waiting on someone who picked AJ, Deb, or Lechappa to do the work.

As Deb I end up having to search a ton of already stripped bare cabins and find the gas and batteries those douches neglected. Install them.. then have that car I fixed jacked on me by some silent douche who had the keys the whole time, usually playing Buggzy, while I was looking for keys and asking over walkie about keys for a few minutes with no response.
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>>180895090
No, RNG matters. There's nothing stopping all the objectives from spawning in one area so that it's impossible to get anything done under Jason's nose. Or everyone could spawn in one area and not get the stuff they need quickly enough.
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>>180879180
>If Jason teleports to my house within the first 30 seconds of a round starting I just dc or let him kill me, there's no point

Fucking what, Jason finding you right off the bat is the easiest shit in the world to juke out of, he doesn't have shift, he doesn't have stalk, no rage, most shitters aren't playing the Jasons with good sense either. Like I'm not even trying to be an asshole but legitimately get better at the game if you can't trip up a first minute of the game Jason.
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>>180895090
>>180895313
Actually, the biggest limitation on being able to fix the cars/boats up is if some asshole finds the keys/parts and dies with them in the out in the middle of fucking nowhere and they don't say a word about it.
This also applies to the phone fuze, I've had plenty of games where calling the cops became impossible because someone had the fuze and died with it in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and didn't see the need to tell anyone about it
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>>180895589
You can run away from Jason in the early game, all that means is that he's going to spend several minutes chasing you from cabin to cabin until he gets shift. You won't have time to search your starting cabins and any cabins you get chased to will have already been searched. Even if you survive for several minutes, all you'll have done is buy time for your "team" which unless your playing with friends you won't care about.

Sense strength is irrelevant.
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>>180895810
>All you'll have done is buy time for your "team" which unless your playing with friends you won't care about

I always care about this because I'm not being a MUH WINS person, I just want to do silly shit and have entertaining games. The people who get all bent out of shape about anything and actually give up baffle me.
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>>180895934
There's no fun or entertainment value in running from cabin to cabin with no inventory and no chance to actually do anything all game.
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>>180895934
I never give up or quit, but spawning right next to the phone and having Jason instantly teleport to me and tunnel me until I'm dead just isn't fucking fun. The other guy posting is right, if you're found right in the beginning you have almost no time at all to search cabins, and Jason will just keep fucking chasing you until he gets shift and can get his free kill from shift grab
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>>180895997
Try and head towards other people, keep juking out Jason which is easy against most of them and depending on character even easier, just do quick inventory of houses and find a bat to crack him with, find a good window to duck around him on a time or two, like it's really not that hard to make most terrible pubbie Jasons give up on you.
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>>180896230
The more terrible they are, the less likely they are to give up on you. A good Jason does not chase people for more than two cabins or so. It just isn't worth the effort when other people are actually completing objectives and the player who is being chased will likely be more vulnerable later on, with worse cabins to take refuge in.
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>>180896230
>Find a bat to crack him with
This is much fucking easier said than done
>Find a bat
>Go to hit Jason
>Get grabbed mid swing and instant killed
Or you could hide behind a door and wait to hit him, just to discover that Jason's back has no fucking hit boxes, because that's totally fair
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>>180888140
By chance are you working on the drawing?
I need porn of A.J.
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>>180895589

Have you tried it as a Deb or Lechappa? any open stretch of land is death, and any cabin you get into you don't have time to search.

So all you can do is run in loops between a few cabins going through windows until you're too cut up to run anymore.

Not a fun match. Fuck that I'll find another one.
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>>180896852
AJ isn't for sexual.
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>>180896654
>Just to discover that Jason's back has no fucking hit boxes

Not them I'm gonna [citation needed] on this because all I've ever seen about this is some people here claiming it and I'm pretty sure it's not true. Like I've danced around him today even and hit him in the back with an axe or whatever else and it laid him out same as ever.
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>>180892091
I didn't "ask" for Shadman, I just said I'm surprised he hadn't drawn anything for the game, because it's got everything there for him
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>>180883429
they should do the same like they did with trapper where you can't put two traps within a certain radius
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reddit
this is equivalent to the "how to be a gentleman killer :)" shit
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>>180898203
I don't have any actual citation for this, but I've played plenty of games where I've tried saving my teammates only to get killed for it because of Jasons bullshit hit boxes
>Playing Bugsy
>Jason is chasing someone with a car part
>I start following them to a cabin
>Counselor with part jumps in window, and Jason swings and misses
>I swing my bat right at Jasons back
>Nothing happens and he just turns around and chokes me out instantly
I also had on stunner and other damage perks. I'm honestly gonna stop playing Bugsy because trying to fight Jason, even when he's distracted with someone else, is a goddamn suicide mission
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>>180898587
Have a upvote
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>>180898587

he is kind of right though, exploiters can get fucked. Nobody wants to spectate that shit or lose half their xp watching you cheat.
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>>180898587
>Killing exploiters
Not seeing a problem
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>>180898587
They're heroes for allowing spectators to end the game faster without having to watch exploiters get rewarded.
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>>180898610
I have pretty good success when it comes to fighting Jason, so long as I don't try to take him out in the open. Problem is, if I just want to save people from his grasp I'm better off playing Vanessa or even Chad. Buggzy is for players who have faith in humanity and naively believe their group may be willing to go for a kill when all the escape methods are pretty much toast and Jason only needs one more machete hit to take his mask off.
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>>180898587
>Bitch nigger cries about shitters being punished for making the game worse for everyone involved
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>>180863906
>just give people free unhooks, bro
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>>180896852
yes but its not done already, give me a few minutes until the first sketch is done
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>>180900418
You get more points if you dont camp. By giving them "free unhooks" youre literally helping yourself
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>>180900701
Thanks for the update senpai,wasn't meaning to bug ya.
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>>180900773
What if I don't care about points and just want them to die?
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>>180900773
>muh points
No, I can get more points POTENTIALLY, plus, I'm a killer, not a fucking farm bot. If faggots buzz around like crazy, my MM 99% EW2 will keep them company.
>>180860319
If you feed Myers to 99% EW and let him too close, it's your problem. Just be stealthy, if he's stays in EW2 for too long, since he won't scan the area. Or bait his EW3 and juke him.
Git fucking gud
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>Get Counselor
>Specifically Perk to fix shit and call the cops
>Never find the fuse or car repair items and start right next to Jason's initial target half the time
>No one talks or coordinates
>Can't find a switchblade ever

>Get Jason
>People call the cops in two minutes
>Those I chase down who have the repair items drop them to suddenly pick up a gun that comes out of east bumblefuck
>"You have a knife, you have a knife, you have a knife! EVERYONE GETS A KNIFE!"
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>>180901291
>complains about someone telling him to leave a hook because hes too bad to catch anyone again
>proceeds to tell someone else to git gud
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>>180901536
*and I start
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Would it be beneficial if they made pocket knives more common?

Would ease up the complaints about getting shift grabbed so often, as well as make trap disarming a little more tolerable.
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>>180901587
I don't have to make job harder for myself. You leave the hook when there is no survivors near it. If they are near, there is no reason to do that.
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>>180876034

Just break the fucking pallets holy hell, it's not rocket science.
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>>180901781
Then jasons would just hack everyone to death
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>>180902097
Would that really be such a bad thing?
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>>180901781
They're already too common. If they made it so each counselor could only have one at a time, maybe that'd be an alright option, but as it is? No way.
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>>180901536
>No one talks or coordinates
>tfw I'm the only one who talks half the time, gives precise updates on where the battery or gas or fuse is, says exactly where I am if I have an item and Jason gets me
>Epik dude bro lamao sounding fags only talk back most times to spew buttmad memays because girl voice and accent
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>>180902273
Yes, I would personally rather die to shift grabs infinitely more than Part 3's just clickclickclickclickclickclick'ing me to death.
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>>180902584
It's no better if you're male. The vast majority of people with mics are the dregs of humanity.
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>>180902584
>girl voice
I've seen a lot of girls play this compared to most other team games with voice support built in. Same with a friend's DBD streams. Is there a reason for that?
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>>180902584
>girl voice and accent

Have you tried just not being a girl?
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>>180903028

Other team based multiplayer games are based on combat.

This is run, hide, fix things, appeals more to most women, different type of problem solving than direct conflict which appeals more to men.

If you've ever played an MMO you'll find women mostly play support and healing characters, and occasionally ranged dps. EXTREMELY few female tanks, and not a lot of female melee dps.
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>>180903028
I actually saw someone write a well thought out thing on this the other day. It was basically that Friday the 13th has been a pretty notably good series for women out of most slasher series, "last girl" being a thing, having competent lady characters in a number of them, that among a few other bits made it a pretty accessible movie for both men and women and I've met a lot of other girls who've explained it almost like that as well for why they're such big fans. DbD it could be a variety of things, but F13 absolutely has kind of a culture to it that's allowed anyone to really get into it.
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>>180903028
Gurl Gamers have always been driven to horror themed games.
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>>180901269
Then go play DOOM or something you edgy faggot, preferably a single player game so others don't need to deal with your tryhard, no fun mentality.
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>>180900801
still here?
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>>180904125
Yes sir
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>>180904165
http://imgur.com/a/g00Bc

its still a sketch but you can tell me what you think and what should be added/changed

Sorry for taking so long, blue board and all that stuff you know.
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>>180904320
>>180904165
Oh and I didnt opt for that other pose because it sounded too "Shadman" for me like that other anon said
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>>180902097

That's easy to stop with a weapon, thick skin and some medspray. Which is all more common then a knife.
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>>180904320
>http://imgur.com/a/g00Bc
THICC
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>>180904320
noice, would you mind uploading it again once its finished?
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>>180904654
sure bro, dont worry ;)
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>>180904090
>J-JUS PLAY OTHER GAEM, FUCKIN WANTIN TO KILL PEOPLE AS A PSYCHO KILLER
>Additionally pulling "tryhard, no fun" out of your ass because someone's NOT trying to play the epin min/max game

lol fag
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>>180904320
AJ should be masturbation pals with Deborah.
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>>180904320
Fucking Degenerates
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>>180904320
blog?
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>>180905318
Sadly I dont have one, Im the begging guy from a few posts ago thou if you are interested

http://steamcommunity.com/id/DandyDeadDog/
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>>180905078
>Implying it wouldn't be Deborah and Jenny
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>a higher percentage of people have Super Fan than Summercamp

Are they ever going to fix this achievements?
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>>180905825
I swear, as bad as AJ's and Vanessa's are, it's always Tiffany players that do the real damaging things to the game, TK because they didn't get Jason, abuse bugs, gas the tiffs.
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>>180906208
They're also the ones who loop around cars just to waste your time in a more annoying fashion, when there are plenty of cabins with intact doors nearby.
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>our solution to the team killing epidemic is to increase the betrayal penalty
>This does absolutely nothing for people who work with Jason to give positions away
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>>180906937
It doesn't actually reduce the level of teamkilling, either. It merely disincentivizes self-defense.
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junking trappers and taking names
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You shouldn't be allowed to be Jason if you're in a party

It's absolute horse shit
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>A few people escape by car, little if any hope of anyone else making it out because getting two vehicles repaired is nearly impossible
>Nobody is willing to try to kill Jason, they'd rather just die one by one while trying to wait out a 13+ minute timer
>Even the Tommy who escaped and respawned would rather crouch in a corner

What is wrong with people?
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>>180904320
Not what I expected but thats nice, she kinda is a little plumb
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>Combat stance
>Made pointless because Jason can grab you out of it, Jason can block every melee hit without penalty with his own CS, and dodging is pointless since he can grab you out of those as well. Not to mention the ridiculous stamina loss.

>Counselor bear traps
>Made pointless because Jason can just shift past them

>Jason bear traps
>No way to disarm them without alerting Jason. Jason can also stack them making crucial objectives impossible to get without injuring yourself and alerting Jason

>Jumping through windows
>Made pointless because Jason can just shift/morph to your closest location and maintain the chase, even closing the gap further than if you never jumped through the window at all
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>>180907224
Randos fear the Jason and would generally rather play hide and seek than try to kill him.
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>>180907224

Why bother? You'll run into two scenarios

1) After being unmasked, Jason runs away like a bitch and only appears to try to knife one of you or go for a shift grab kill on the sweater user

2) The game bugs out and you don't get the knee stun animation to allow you to kill Jason
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I'm slowly realizing that the fundamental problem with these asymmetrical horror games is that a meta forms and makes it unfun for everyone involved, because you either don't play like a cunt and get fucked over, or become the cunt yourself and fuck other people over in an endless cycle of fucking
I can't imagine anyone complaining about shit that happens in Damned
but that game's dead so it doesn't matter
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>try to use sloppy joe's set up on billy
>but have NOED and bitter murmur anyway
>can't hit anyone with an unmodified chainsaw because i dont practice with the terrible geometry 8 hours a day like that massive aspie.
>they are all alive as gates pop
>end up killing 3 because noed
>everyone is pissed
lmao, noed is now good because no one uses or expects it
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>>180907758
I don't think that's a bug, I think it's tied to the stun chance of the weapon used. I've never seen it fail with a baseball bat. I've never had a Jason run away and hide after being demasked, and you can always hide inside and force him to make a frontal assault.

Even if that shit happened, it's better than just getting picked off one by one with zero hope of escape because the escape is already gone.
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>>180907826
This is an issue with nearly every multiplayer game, asymmetrical or not. There isn't really a way to cut down on meta, but it is possible to point it in certain directions or lessen it's importance on the game.

The asymmetrical slasher genre is plagued with bad indie developers who care more about "vision" than balance, so it exacerbates the issue much more than in other genres.

That being said, I also think part of the genre's charm is it's very low overall quality. Slasher games play almost exactly like a bad b-budget slasher film feels to watch, and there is nothing wrong with that.
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>>180907224

People don't stand their ground and fight in general, even when in groups. You can easily hold jason off and save people and push objectives if you work as a team.

But people see jason and get scared and run away like headless chickens.
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>>180909775
A part 3 can be bullied to no end but he's said to be second strongest Jason.
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>>180909995
>A part 3 can be bullied to no end but he's said to be second strongest Jason.
But if he block its a completely different story.
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>>180909995

People in general don't get how combat works or how jason works in general.

If he's just m1'ing you block and let the other stun him.

Granted you're going to want thickskin, but that's a mandatory perk imo.

>>180910067

If he's just gonna block, keep pushing objectives. Also I'm pretty sure you can hit that slim window he has after a attack and punish him if everyone is swinging at him.

They need to make every jasons block like part2's were you can get stunned during block.
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>>180907826
Asymmetrical games can't be balanced. If the solo player isn't outrageously overpowered he'll get shit on because teamwork trumps solo power.

The only game that came close was that Hidden source mod, and it was only because the killer had a very high skill cap with lots of tricks and optimizations. And killer still died instantly 90% of the time.
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>>180909995

>second strongest Jason
>no movement buffs aside from a jog that can't catch most counselors unless you cripple them which a power walking Jason can catch them then too.
>a cosmetic strength (grip strength)
>last strength is mitigated by thick skin and medic
>gets stunned by every hit he doesn't block even if the counselor is NOT running sucker punch.
>second strongest

Parts 8, 9, and 2 are all better than 3. Jason Jog is a meme.
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>>180910149
>They need to make every jasons block like part2's were you can get stunned during block.

If they do that then it'll be impossible to do anything against counselors who run in groups of three or more. Knives are only good for stopping window jumps because everyone runs thick skin and medic, there's no way to wear them down without running into melee, and Jason can only survive that because he's invincible while blocking.

The game will never be balanced. Leave it like it is. If you try to balance Jason it'll end up like DBD.
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>>180910482

I still don't think block should work on stuff like firecrackers or traps.

Flaregun I'm fine with because since it's a projectile, you can hit him with it from super far away if your aim is good.
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>>180910653

I agree on that. Blocking shouldn't block firecrackers or traps.
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>people are defending the devs mistake of only letting people get the 13k points if they logged in during the weekend and not how they worded it from the start of "you'll get this points if you've played are game"

I don't get this games fanbase and defending every retarded choice these devs make. I got my points, but it would suck to not get them because you were busy over the weekend and thought you were gonna be covered for those points.
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>>180910852

Fanbois defend every developer of every game ever.
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>>180910425
>no movement buffs aside from a jog that can't catch most counselors unless you cripple them which a power walking Jason can catch them then too.
Jog isn't a meme but one of the only reliable ways to drain the stamina of a half decent counselor.
>a cosmetic strength (grip strength)
If the player is smart enough to run somewhere where you can't easily kill such as a tight corner then it can make a world of difference
>last strength is mitigated by thick skin and medic
Just makes the strength all the more important since he is the only one out of the cast excluding dlc that can whittle people down twice as fast as any other Jason.
>gets stunned by every hit he doesn't block even if the counselor is NOT running sucker punch.
Combat stance with a wrench is usually a guaranteed stun on other jasons as well but we just assume you aren't dumb enough to run into obvious bait.

>Parts 8, 9, and 2 are all better than 3. Jason Jog is a meme.
Nah if you compare the cast you chose in the same light as part 3 then you will be getting meme'd from dusk till dawn as these characters.
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>>180905078
>not jenny
fuck this idiot don't listen to him
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>>180910482

There's just some minor stuff that I would like to see done so it's not completely fucking bullshit

Shifting over traps shouldn't be a thing. It negates the use of the item entirely and having it as one extra barrier.

Blocking flare guns and invincibility frames on grabs need to go. Jason's can tank hits and walk over traps by spamming grab

Shift grabs are horse shit too, but I can see its necessity. I don't know what to replace it with since a cooldown only balances the issue for one side. If anything, pulling a shift right on top of someone should cause them to do a fall stumble
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>>180911235

One change I'd like to see with shift is make him transparent during it(like the wraith) so you can at least get a idea of were he's coming from if your paying attention.

I agree with the invincibility frames though, jason has way too many in basically everything and they last too long/there's no real tell to figure out how long he's in them or how long he's still "stunned" from something. You can only learn it by playing alot.
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>>180911235
Blocking a flare gun is fine. It's small, and easy to surprise him with. You don't want the flare gun to be better in every way than the shotgun, do you?

Blocking firecrackers is bullshit, but I think they should only stun him if he enters their radius in the first two seconds or so of the crackling.
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>Be Tiff
>Gathering supplies and dropping off parts at the car
>Jason corners some retard with a walkie
>He starts bargaining with Jason, selling the other counselors out
>Half the counselors immediately quit
>I keep doing my thing hoping Jason isn't a retard and kills the faggot selling us out
>Of course he tells Jason where I am and a chase ensues
>Jason shift-grabs me and starts trying to shit talk
>Leave match before he can get his XP

Serves that asshole right. As Jason I always tunnel retards who try to sell their fellow counselors out. That shit is ruining the game for everyone.

>>180911235
>>180911352
>remove i-frames
Have fun with m1 spam being even worse than it currently is.
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>>180911472
>Blocking a flare gun is fine. It's small, and easy to surprise him with. You don't want the flare gun to be better in every way than the shotgun, do you?

How would being unable to block a flare gun make it better than a shotgun? The shotgun still stuns for much longer than a headshot with the flaregun which usually requires him to be right on top of you.
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>>180910149
How does blocking Jason's attacks work? Do you still take damage? Can you block multiple hits in a row? I know it breaks your weapon quickly.
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>>180911671

I didn't say every iframe, just some.

Like why does setting traps have iframes?

And I'd rather be m1'd to death because thats easier to stop and deal with solo then grabs when your alone.

>>180911697
The shotgun barely stuns when it knocks jason on his ass because of macros.
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>>180911757

You still take some slight amount of damage, I haven't tested it. But its a small amount.

You can even block throwing knives btw.
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>>180911759
>The shotgun barely stuns when it knocks jason on his ass because of macros.

So how would the flare gun be any better? You get the same spam command but a much less reliable aim with it.
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>>180911759
When people use macros to break my grab it really pisses me off like why do i bother.
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>>180911757
>>180911820

adding to this, I don't know if luck lets your weapon survive blocking longer like it does for weapon swings. I would assume it would.

>>180911834
I don't find the flaregun that hard to aim myself, but I think you don't get the command if you shoot jason in the torso. I'm not the guy who said shotguns were not as good btw.

>>180911884

They need to think of a different system besides mash a button to get out, it's not fun and people are just gonna use macros to get around it.
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>>180912042
The best way to aim guns is to not aim them at all.
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>>180912129

I do the quick fire with the shotgun, but it's fun to try and go for long distance flaregun shots at jason from safety when he's going after others.
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>>180912042
>I don't find the flaregun that hard to aim myself, but I think you don't get the command if you shoot jason in the torso. I'm not the guy who said shotguns were not as good btw.

It has a tendency to come out at a weird angle or catch nearby terrain first. Also if you do hit Jason in the torso sometime he gets the fastest mash escape in the game called brush off.
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>>180898610
I already told you off threads ago, Jason can turn and walk away from swings, but he DOES have a hitbox on his back you fucking retard
Get closer
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>>180912208
Yeah the hitbox for it is huge so t can easily collide with trees, houses or cars before actually hitting Jason. It's kinda silly.
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>>180904090
Yeah I'll go right ahead and play Friday the 13th, DBDcuck
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Does this happen often?
get faced vs people with a lot shit is there a non ranked mode for casual play vs strangers?
also I got a flashlight but it did fuck all to the killer do I have to be right next to him for it to work what gives?
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The last FOUR times I've been Jason, the host disconnects
HOST MIGRATION WHEN
Tired of this childish bullshit in an /m/ rated game
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>>180916572
Yes, it happens fairly oftenas matchmaking is shit.

There's no casual mode unlessyou brong4 friends and play private, but you won'tget points.

Flashlight needs a precise aim at the killers face, and the blind time depends on add-ons and the killer's perks.
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Everyone who complain about the 40 bucks are just poorfags
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>>180917107
Or maybe it's not on par with similiarly priced products?
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>>180917107

It's too much money for what the game is.

It should be 30 at most.
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I don't enjoy DbD but I enjoy F13
what's wrong with DbD and isn't it fun?
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>>180903028

Girls love horror games.
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>>180919678

Which side of the gameplay don't you enjoy?

Killer or survivor and same question for f13th
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>>180919678
Some people like the taste of poop and that's okay!
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So why did they overlook that you can cancel your attack as jason into a block right away that basically makes it unpunishable?
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How to fix f13; Redesign Jason
Part 2 (the trapster)
Remove stalk and give him the ability to generate traps also give him the ability to pick up and reuse traps.

Part 3 (the country dweller)
Remove stalk and give him the ability to Do a running sprint that will be 2 weapon damage worth of hits to them.

Part 7 (the ghost)
Stalk makes him completely invisible and when he destalks you can hear a windchime.

Part 6 (the medical aid)
Can use shift in front of windows to teleport into cabins

Part 9 (the 2 dimensional)
The longer he pursues a target in stalk the more he powers up when he's powered up his music radius gets louder

part 8 (the old man)
His traps when disarmed or trigger give him the immediate option to teleport to them.

part savini (the Surgeon)
Has an aura of flames that engulfs his nearby area and rapidly gives the counselors of fear.
the fire can't hurt them but it's a cool effect and they see spectral dead-bodies making them scream.
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>>180911235
>If anything, shiftgrabs should be literally undodgeable

uh-huh
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>>180919934
Both are pretty meh
killer just patrols generators hoping to get lucky and then goes on a merry chase, only to hook leave have to chase the now unhooked person rinse repeat.
Survivor find gen fix gen have no chance of really losing the killer.
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>>180920228
Did you literally take abilities of killers from dbd and give them to jasons?
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>>180919993
I wouldn't go so far as to call DbD shit it's just not fun to me.
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>>180920647
N-no
The games just seem similar!
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>>180920228

>removing stalk from human Jasons

If anything stalk should be enhanced for Human Jasons and shift should be removed. Most of Jason's kills in parts 2-4 are ambush/surprise attacks. He didn't really chase anyone down or fight, he ambushed people by surprise. People didn't even know there was a killer on the loose until less than 10s away from their death, or the final girl/guy started finding bodies, and the final girl survived any chases/fights.

It's only in part 6 that he started being more overt and didn't stalk as much but still about HALF of Zombie Jason's kills were ambushes and he seemed to shift around and teleport (especially in part 8)
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>>180920228
How high were you when these sounded like anything resembling a good idea?
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>>180921703
I feel like you are missing the point of the redesign its to make Jason more interesting and varied to play, I'm not interested in mirroring movie counter parts because I don't think it would make for good gameplay outside of singleplayer. That and when people defend shit by saying "ITS LIKE THE MOVIE" or can't appreciate Jason needs morph to transverse a huge map quickly and say shit like "JASON NEVER TELEPORTED IN THE MOVIES"
i feel like people need to understand that a game that tried to be scripted movie in multiplayer would be shit or need to be differently designed.

>>180921884
Elaborate.
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>>180922003

I don't want too arcadey of an experience. When it seems too contrived and arcadey it ruins some of the fun for me. If I want arcadey that's what L4D2 is for.
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>>180922280
>arcadey
We are talking about f13 right where one jason has basically been summoned from hell.
what do you mean by arcadey becasue you can't mean realism.
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>>180922460
Probably like how dbd is arcadey
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>>180922460

Not realistic so to say but I want it to feel like I'm playing a horror movie, not a game show.
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>>180922495
Define what you mean by that though, becasue DbD requires more strategy than F13 does so I'm finding it hard to see your point.
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>All the fucking shit killers in this thread who refuse to leave their fuck ingredients hooks

Why would you do this. Even if you ignore blood points, hook camping is literally the worst strat because against a decent team

>You sit still in front of him
>Survivor fakestruggles signalling everybody not to bother
>In the time it takes him to bleed to death 3 generators are done and you've lost all map control

Meanwhile, what a fucking normal person does

>Look around in the vicinity swiftly to see if anybody is around
>Return to your patrol route, break pallets, undo generator progress, place traps if you are trapper or hag
>As you solidify your map control the Survivor workforce is AT WORST cut in half because of the hooked fag + his saviour being unable to work on gens.
>If you manage to find somebody unhooking JUST HIT THE FUCKER AGAIN
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>>180921703

I really fail to see the utility of stalk when 95% of the time you still have to chop through a door to get to anyone.
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>>180922627
Right now the multiplayer is focused on action so it's arcadey and realism wouldn't help it unless they made maps smaller so jason didn't need to morph around the map and I don't think that's likely and you seem to be opposed to adding additional strategical elements to various Jasons.

If you want a scripted experience wait for single player.
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>>180922728
I've used it plenty of times to kill people, key is to be patient and not charge in at the first sign of a person.
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>>180922728

Stalk is poorly implemented partially because of how late you get it.

If Stalk was the first ability you got and they changed Jason's spawns so he didn't HAVE to morph to get to a location, Jason could hide in cabins that haven't been barricaded yet and get surprise kills.

I also think that Jason's music shouldn't play unless you actually see him or he does something overt that alerts you do his presence like break a window or hit a door, or kill someone in proximity voice distance to you. In essence, if standing still, stalk is pretty much passive, aside from the enhanced hearing which you'd still need to activate the skill for.

If moving, activating stalk would silence your footsteps and enhance hearing, and it should last longer but doing something overt like breaking a window or door or shifting would break stalk.

To compensate for the slower pace of the game, the timer could be extended to 30m, the police response time to 10m base, and add an extra step of complexity to each escape route.

Faster paced = arcadey.
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>>180923505
This is 100% true. Stalk should be activated much earlier and other stuff (shift) later.
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>>180922656
Fuck off Mr. Rank 4
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>>180922728
Stalks only real utility is hiding shifts
otherwise it's very slow and typically unrewarding standing still hoping for someone to walk into your arms.

Meanwhile people fix shit or hear your foot steps.
The optimal way to use stalk requires use to waste a shift or morph for the VHS effect so people think you've gone away but this is rarely worth the effort involved as no Jason with +stalk has grip strength so even if you setup a cool jump scare what's likely to happen is you need to execute them on the spot, they knife you or they break free.
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>>180923583

Just how much more scary would this game be if you saw a cabin you haven't searched yet with the door ajar at the beginning of the match, you couldn't hear any music or footsteps or anything.. do you risk going in the cabin to scavenge?

I also think that since morph spots should be a in dark places the indicator for Jason morphing near you shouldn't be VHS effect but just the sound of a twig snapping.
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>>180923836
Yeah the stalk thing is most puzzling though, because it would be so easy to implement and increase the quality of the game/scares by a lot. The game should start slow but creepy. A good Jason could get a kill or 2 and it would punish shitter Jason's.
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>>180923836
So just make the entire gameplay revolve around waiting for someone to come to you instead of you actively seeking them out. The stalk meme needs to end. It was a last second addition to appease the jumpscare fags.
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>>180905794
>>180911215
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>>180923836
People complain about jason killing them in the first 2 minutes, and you want jason to be able to kill people who the first 2 minutes while being undetectable?
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>>180922631
>DbD requires more strategy than F13 does
>Literally only one goal as survivors in DbD unless you wanna be pedantic and include the hatch
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>>180924362

Might have something to do with getting shift stupidly early and sense almost instantly.
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>>180924419
>Literally only one goal as survivors in DbD unless you wanna be pedantic and include the hatch
>All escape routes in F13 aren't just disguised generator minigames
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>>180924454
Jason doesn't need shift to instagib people he spawns next to what are suggesting literally would make early deaths worse if not guaranteed.
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>>180924148
Yeah and yet it's the strongest part of the gameplay that's untapped. Just make shift and sense available much later to compensate.
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>>180924503
It's still multiple outs, one taking longer and you being on foot, cars requiring you to also not be a sped and crash into shit, or when you get people who actually wanna screw around and have some fun you can get a kill going.
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>>180924419
All Jasons play the same
All the killers of DbD play different and require different strategy to deal with.
Both games escapes are just QTE simulators that isn't where any strategy is involved.
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>>180924516
It would make the gameplay actually varied instead of stalk being basically unused in favour of basic shift grabs.
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When there's 3 of us repairing gen, the killer always chooses to chase me. Am I doing something wrong? Is it because I play Dwight?
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>>180924645
>It would make the gameplay actually varied
How Shift still exists all giving stalk early does is make it impossible to know if Jason spawned near you so you can't even run away.
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>>180924516

Unless you're playing as LaChappa (which in his current state is entirely redundant) it's relatively damn easy to get away that early in the game.
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>>180924519
>Sit in random house waiting for someone
>They complete every objective and leave unopposed
Oh yeah so fun. Again the stalk meme needs to die.
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>>180924727

>make it impossible to know if Jason spawned near you so you can't even run away

Being indoors as almost everyone is at the start? Having basic awareness?
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>>180924745
So one guy says it's too easy for Jason and the other too easy for survivors. This sounds balanced.
>>180924727
I keep saying shift would be delayed until later so it wouldn't be available as early.
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>>180924362

Jason wouldn't get shift until he gets stalk now, and wouldn't get sense until he gets shift now, it would make him easier to lose at the start of the match and like I said. you'd have to be careful about going into cabins at the start because Jason could be lurking there. Right now you just go into cabins happy go lucky because there's proximity music that warns you.

and I mean Jason wouldn't HAVE to lurk in a cabin waiting for someone to come to him, it'd just be something viable to do that currently is not viable because you get stalk so late and people hear the proximity music.

With a 10m police response time and an extra step for the phone repair (not sure what it'd be) Jason could afford a few minutes to actually scare people instead of go tunneling people right away.

That and the biggest problem with dying early (or escaping early) is forced spectate.
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current players on Steam

dbd: 16k
F13: 4,7k

lol
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>>180924649
If they are sprint bursting toward pallets the killer is probably going to target the dummy looking a locker to hide in.
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>>180924743
It's not going to be if the music doesn't alter you that he's just shifted behind you.
early stalk will just give Jason easy early kills.

>>180924816
being in doors doesn't hide sound steps
Jason will just stalk wait for you to come outside and grab you, what is basic awareness with no VHS effect or Music when he can just stand still and see everywhere you are jogging and or walking because he's right next to you.

>>180924879
>I keep saying shift would be delayed until later so it wouldn't be available as early.
that doesn't change gameplay that means they'll just shift grab people a minute later all early stalk does is grant early deaths for free, Jason doesn't need sense he can hear perfectly fine without it and cabin clusters rarely haven't got atleast 1 counselor near by.
you literally want people to crouch walk at the start for no reason besides muh jumpscares.
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Left 4 Dead 2: 40k

lmao
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>>180924879
It more boring than anything but you just refuse to see it as such.
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>>180925003
ouch
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>>180925003

And Dota has 136k, what's your point?
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>>180925073
>hiding in lockers
I don't do that
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>>180925163
Muh threadshtting rivalry faggotry
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>>180924993
He can hear you footsteps without sense,
careful about going into cabins because jason could instagib you from the first minute that is literally retarded that what im saying is a problem that's a shit idea.
> I mean Jason wouldn't HAVE to lurk in a cabin
yeah he's just going to wank of in the middle of the woods with his stalk

>10m police response time
so jason doesn't even have to trap the phone anymore because he can just go tryhard the second their called?

>That and the biggest problem with dying early (or escaping early) is forced spectate.
your giving him easier early kills though
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>>180925003
Imagine being a Kickstarter backer that spent hundreds or even thousands of dollars on this game. lol
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>>180924612
>All Jasons play the same

Disagreed.
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>>180925003
Honestly F13 should have more the price probably kept people away.
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>>180925375
Being one of the three people who spent 10k to be in a dead game.
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>attempt to play today
>first game host leaves
>second game host leaves
>third game, host leaves after I put the battery in the car

Fuck this shitty fucking game, how were they allowed to release this heap of absolute shit
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>>180925073
The locker part was a joke but if you're being picked on it's not because of the skin you chose.
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>>180925104
Jason doesn't have shift at the start, all you need to do is keep aware of your surroundings. Literally anyone can outpace him in the beginning.
>>180925132
If you're a 1 dimensional shift grab shitter, it's boring yeah. If you can't see the satisfaction that comes from sneaking up on counselors or the scares it would generate (this is supposedly a horror game), then I can't help you.
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>>180925465
>Le anything less than 1000000 players is le ded ecksa dee

Back to CS:GO/twitch
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>>180925620
you aren't reading what im saying giving him stalk makes it worst and a jogging jason can just stick to you.
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>>180925003
>Steam
Lol
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>>180925650
So? If you're worried about balance the counselors can easily be made as good as they need to be to counter it. Taking away Jason's magnetic grip for instance alone would do it. The fact remains it would make the game more varied.
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>>180925357

Wouldn't matter as much without forced spectate. You'd just leave match with your xp and go find a new one.

Right now it's just frustrating because you know you're either not getting any xp or you have to watch boring shit for 18 minutes, and I'd rather have a good scary Jason at the beginning of the match than just a tunneling chase because he gets sense and shift so early.
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Last Year will kill both games ;)
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>>180925003
Yeah, asians love e sports my man
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>>180925836
How would it make the game more varied?
Jason morphs to a location, stalks inside a cabin grabs you kills you, gets the rest of ability because it took so long for to secure 1 kill like this.
you haven't introduced any additional mechanics every jason still plays almost identically you can't honestly think you've done anything significant besides making some unlucky guy have no counter to be killed by Jason becasue he's literally he the first or second house waiting for him with no indication that he's there.
how is this any different from shift grabbing besides it taking longer the counter play is exactly the same.
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>>180925881
He doesn't need to ever use sense he can hear you just fine, he knows your going to be in a house he knows your going to be near the objectives.
forced spectate is so tommy jarvis doesn't bug out/ host quitting giving him early stalk just means more early deaths and more 18 minute spectate sessions.
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>>180926087
Because as it is there are virtually no sneaky Jason's. I barely ever see anyone sneak up on someone. It's entirely shift grabbing. As to how it's different, shift grabbing is boring because the counselor is aware it's happening. It removes the surprise. I don't know what you're trying to say about the early game thing, because for Jason it's a gamble. If you pick a house and it doesn't get checked you waste time. Or it might pay off. It's not very op but would be different at least
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>>180926312
>It's not very op
are you fucking joking?
>open a door
>instagrabbed
>press E environmental kill on the door
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>>180926217
It's very easy to balance counselors so there are less early deaths though. You're just being willfully ignorant now.
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>>180925620
> If you can't see the satisfaction that comes from sneaking up on counselors or the scares it would generate (this is supposedly a horror game), then I can't help you.

Waiting for people to come to you isn't fun champ. The chase is the most enjoyable part of the game and its going to stay that way no matter how much you whine.
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>>180926424
No you are moving goal posts because you refuse to see that an early stalk will just fuck people up.
the fact you have to keep adjusting things just so your idea of how the game should play doesn't fucking suck should show you, you are being willfully ignorant its not a good idea.
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>>180925629
Game wanted 22 million dollars from kickstarter for full game because of the F13 license. Barely pulled together 3 mil on 2 funding platforms. If you think the game isn't dead for having such a widely recognized character than you are fucking delusional.
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>>180926217

after tommy spawns everyone who's not tommy who escaped or died gets an option to leave and get their xp, easy.

>>180926087

>Jason morphs to a location

You must have skipped the part where I said he gets stalk first, morph second. He'd spawn next to either a random campfire, or hey how about inside a random cabin that a counselor has NOT spawned next to?

He then has a few options. Start walking towards an objective or group of sound pings, or wait until morph to go to an objective. Give a 2 minute delay before morph maybe. Remember the idea is for a slower paced, scarier match.
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>>180926451
Lmao you can't even understand stalk. It can be used to actively sneak up on people dipshit.
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>>180926697
No it can't people can literally hear your footsteps retard and it drains 3x as fast if you are moving.
seriously stalk memers just stop shitposting about your shit last second ability.
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>>180926697
>Lmao you can't even understand stalk. It can be used to actively sneak up on people dipshit.

Yeah the loud footsteps that aren't mine couldn't possibly be the killer. Stay retarded fag.
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>>180926636
>after tommy spawns everyone who's not tommy who escaped or died gets an option to leave and get their xp, easy.
So your solution isn't to prevent people from dying early at all but to just let people be instagibbed until people call tommy. Glad you are not a dev my friend.
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>>180926560
If you fixed the struggle mechanic for counselors to escape grab then early stalk wouldn't be op and the game would be generally better.
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>>180926636
>stalk first morph second
alright you've got to be a troll at this point
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>>180926814
>>180926861
Done this multiple times and came from behind a corner to grabkill people. Stay salty, shitters
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>thread full of butthurt counselors who get killed in first 2 mins
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>>180927047
>hurrr I've played against people that are deaf
>Stalk is great!
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>Stalk fags desperately want their mechanic to be worth something so much that they'd literally change the game
Why don't you guys just make your own kick starter I'm sure you'll make loads of money with your waiting simulator idea.
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>>180927382
>Change the game
They should be open to improvements, yeah. You sound like you're underage friend.
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>>180927382
>that they'd literally change the game
I mean, every patch that comes out "changes the game" so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
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>>180927545
>They should be open to improvements, yeah.
Proven multiple times that stalk is a shit meme. Get over it.
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>>180927545
>They should be open to improvements
Feel free to start actually naming some then.

>>180927646
>Comparing bug fixes to turning the game into a waiting queue simulator
what did he mean by this?
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>>180925440

Every jason pretty much play the same except some get to abuse shift more then others.

Only ones that are really "different" are maybe part 3, part 2 and part 6. And you only play part 7 if you hate yourself/are bored.
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>>180926917

it's kind of both. Jason wouldn't be able to give a good chase at all early in game, so if you were careful and didn't just dive right into cabins and start looting you wouldn't die. If the lights were on in the cabin you'd probably see him, if he moved around in the cabin without activating stalk, you'd hear footsteps. You wouldn't go into big lodges or cabins without company or being prepared, preferring to peek in the windows of small cabins first.

and lets face it, even with these changes, most Jasons would go overt right away and start smashing windows and doors and you'd have plenty of warning but now he doesn't get morph for 2 minutes, sense for 5, and shift for like 8 minutes. You're long gone.
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>>180925003
>>180925163

People kept going on and on about how friday the 13th was going to somehow "kill" dead by daylight. But that didn't happen and it was annoying as hell.

I like both games alot, but there really shouldn't be one genera thread for both games.
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>>180927024

and like I said, changed his spawn points so he doesn't have to go far.

Spawning him in his cabin in the ass end of nowhere means morph HAS to be his first ability. Which of course means he morphs to the phones first.

If he didn't spawn that far away he wouldn't have to have morph first which would mean the phone cabin wouldn't be an instant no fun allowed match to spawn at where you just run empty handed cabin to cabin not having time to scavenge until he gets shift and you die.
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Am I the only one who feels like camping the hooks is the only legit way of beating experienced survivors?

the perks the have are just so strong, you get punished for ever leaving someone on a hook. Everyone has self care so injuring people doesn't do shit, most of them have that perk that puts you on a bleed out timer when you get pulled off the hook. It just seems so unfair.
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They'd go overt because this suggestion is retarded and you'd give them fuck all to do in the first 2 minutes but wait for nothing to happen or actually do something useful and break shit for later escapes.

2minutes for morph are you fucking serious?
you know how quickly people can get shit fixed jason would just not be able to use his traps to protect objectives.

you get free kills untill the meta becomes jason will instagib you so check windows how are people meant to be "prepared" without a pocket knife the only thing that could stop jason from instagibbing you via a grab when they can't even loot houses.
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>>180928007
Both threads would be that much more slow, a general for the even combined very niche genre is fine, people just need to stop being petty babies in every direction.
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>>180928007
>I like both games alot, but there really shouldn't be one genera thread for both games.
honestly neither game gets enough posts to actually support itself maybe we should just not have /vg/ threads.
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>>180928012
people who die because they spawned near the phone cabin are just baddies.
Jason needs to protect the phone cabin because the fuse spawns so close and it's the hardest escape to stop and easiest escape to achieve.
anyone who argues otherwise is telling you a fairytale
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>>180928406
There are threads that are infinitely more dead about games that had little to discuss at any point and are no longer even being developed in any meaningful way, yet are at thread 392, we'll be fine.
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>>180927785
You haven't proven anything actually, except that you just want the game to be a shift grab spamming shitshow. Stalk is the only alternative way to get counselors that's actually different.
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>>180928662
Kawata shoujou is about waifus
Nostalgia wow is about namefags
we will be pushed to page 10 and honestly I don't even care because no one really says anything worthwhile is these threads anyway.
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If linear visual novels manage to get five billion generals i don't see why we shouldn't be able either.
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>>180922656
stay mad son. I get mad points from retarded survivors who try to save their friends.
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>>180928406
It's definitely a niche genre but I like having it, you can't make a thread on /v/ without people calling you a shill and people just shitting on the game
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>>180928863
You realize there's more VN's than there is Asymmetrical slashers.
Dead by daylight might be able to survive but an F13 thread by itself no way.
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>>180929028
vee hardly even talks about genuine game shit anymore, it's just shitposting from totally-not-pol-escapees about how outrageous it is that you're killing the poor maligned nazis in Wolfenstein, or the autists who still haven't gotten over their blunder of a 'movement' and blubber that everything is the boogeymans fault.
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>>180928596

t. Buggzy or Vanessa player.

Try escaping as a deb or lechappa who spawns at the phone cabin, by the time you know you're in the phone cabin you hear Jason music, if you're as unlucky as me all the drawers were empty and the only thing you could find is a wrench or a pot, you run to another cabin the doors aren't barricaded yet, you go to barricade Jason swings and not only damages the door but hits you and cripples you, gg.

I mean he gets sense early and already has morph, he can keep you in his sights until he gets shift easy.

Buggzy and Vanessa have enough stamina and speed to cross a huge distance of open country with him not being able to keep up.

Deb, Lechappa, AJ, they can't do that. open country is death for them, even Adam isn't fast enough and his stamina is low too.
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>>180928863
>>180928662
Yeah just like the /evolve/ threads did
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>>180929080
>Meanwhile there is more discussion on f13 than dbd
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>>180929224
Lachappa is shit, as for the others just hide
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>>180929262
in the last 20 minutes maybe I didn't actually count but plenty of people are talking about DbD if F13 is getting slightly more its probably due to it still being new.
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>>180929397
More like the past number of weeks
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>>180929224
Nah you are just a baddie
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>>180929262
>wahhh Jason just shift choked me!
>wahhh Jason just hit me with his weapon until I died!
>wahhh Jason trapped the objectives!

Nice """"discussion""""
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>>180929252
Not applicable, Evolve got actually sabotaged and shut down by the publisher denying Turtle Rock their second chance, when things were looking like it could eek out a decent playerbase of a couple k when it had started evening out on the numbers. Until DbD and F13 get a demand from on high to kill their games, can't be compared in situation.
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Dbd Twitter:50k followers
F13 Twitter:153k followers
Oh dear dbd shitters...
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>>180929758
It is applicable I'm not talking about stage 2 anyhow I'm talking about stage 1.
You must remember those right?
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>>180929852
Dbd is fucked lmao
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>>180929852
ouch...
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>>180929390

>Just hide

see when I play Jason if someone takes off running from the phone cabin, I break chase early, just enough to scare them off. If they hide though they're dead. The cabin shows up red and I'm still waiting for my morph cooldown, you're going to die. That's the only time I get kills in the first 2 minutes, is when someone tries to hide.
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>>180930063
>The cabin shows up red
No it doesn't if their hiding it wont be red until you get rage mode.
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>>180929852
F13 subreddit:15500
Dbd subreddit:14900
Dbd once again on suicide watch
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>>180929875
Part 1's almost even less substantial to compare these to, as Evolve got actual AAA hype train behind it, then quickly squandered goodwill with shameless edition jewing and piles of minor variation cosmetic DLCs, which poisoned the perception of the actual fun enough game buried underneath 2K's piles of bullshit. Both versions of Evolve suffered a pretty stark deal because of 2K's legitimately gross levels of greed and consumers actually seeing it for that for once, significantly less on the merits of the games themselves sadly.
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>>180930173

shows up red for me, and I get kills in beds and closets in the phone cabin because people are trying that shit.

The one time I tried that shit myself I also got seek and destroyed, and I actually hid as soon as I saw the phone on the wall and I hadn't heard Jason music yet.. as an AJ.
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>>180930412
they're hiding to late
I've hid from jasons countless of times by never leaving the cabin and i don't get seek and destroyed try it out in a private match with a friend he won't glow.
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>>180930294
>Part 1's almost even less substantial to compare these to
I disagree, their both in the same game genre and evolve generals died because the game was boring and repetitive.
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>>180930510

well didn't work for me and isn't working for those other people.
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>>180930746
and?
that doesn't mean it doesn't work and that doesn't imply you guys are all doing the same thing or aren't fucking up by having a flash light on, sprinting to a hiding place or generally hiding to late.
test it with a friend the cabin wont glow red
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let's just wait for people to start saying that this game will kill them both
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>>180930892

Nope. I didn't even barricade the door. I was trying to follow someone's advice on it. I entered through the door, closed it, didn't barricade, saw the green phone on the wall, climbed under a bed, heard Jason music, heard him trap and start breaking windows, heard him break down the door, then heard him walk in and skewer my hiding spot. my character didn't even say anyhing and I didn't hold breath so I didn't do the inhale that gives away my location. I just literally died 1m into a match and got 0 xp because I didn't even barricade a door or pick up a weapon.
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>>180931296
keep trying it works becasue he's got no way of knowing you are inside at that point
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>>180931218
Last Year really just doesn't look very interesting to me. DbD was okay but I didn't like the actual feeling of being the killer or survivor, F13 I enjoy a lot and just want some work done on it, but Last Year doesn't really look like it'll fulfill anything I couldn't already get from either of the previous.
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>>180931218
>both
when people start saying that only one of them will be left.
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>>180931218
Doesn't look like anything new, campiness aspect of the game has been taken care of by f13, doesn't release on console so it won't affect either game there, only 1 escape method.
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>>180931182
>>180930281
>>180929852
Lets look at some numbers that the casual players looking for a new game might ACTUALLY look and care about
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>>180931660

for some reason due to my own experience being killed in that way and killing others in that way, I feel like I'm just being baited for easy struggle free kills that give maximum xp.
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>>180929852
>>180930281
Ouch. How will dbdfags ever recover?
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>>180932228

Which version is which
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>>180932434
PC on top, Xbone in the middle, PS4 on the bottom.
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>>180932273

By having a game that isn't dead
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It should honestly be reportable to try and threadshit with the same stale bait over and over.
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>>180931218

>DBD's Survivor chase and stealth gameplay and Killer character design
>F13's objectives design
>Last Year's Killer gameplay

If only
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>>180932854
Pointing out that f13 is a bad game isn't b8, its just the truth.
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>>180933171
Epib, epib to the max etc.
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>>180930173
I got some bad news pal. Unless you're running sense avoidance perks Jason's gonna sense you pretty easily if he's been near you for a bit. Fear constantly generates within Jason's radius, which influences the likelihood of him sensing you. Hiding spots merely provide a small reduction to the fear you build and once Jason is gone your fear decays a bit faster, it doesn't protect you from being sensed.
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What do we think lads. No bully please yes I do go on reddit on occasion
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>>180933695
t. someone who hasn't even read the how to play in the menu
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>>180933867

link to thread?
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>>180933867
accurate
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>>180931218
DbD has its support from technically being the first asym slasher game
F13 has its support from the franchise fanboys

Last Year doesn't have shit lmao
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>>180934145
>first asym slasher game
garbage post
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>>180934352
technically
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>>180933943
t. someone who hasn't played the game
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>>180934010
https://www.reddit.com/r/F13thegame/comments/6jr3yq/counselor_tier_list_v20_datadriven_analysis_w?sort=confidence
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How do I survive more than 10 minutes as a counselor if I keep getting put in lobbies full of mute/Russian assholes?
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>>180938210
hide also why would you want to survive for longer than 10 mins if you aren't gone in 5 you aren't leaving
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>>180935849
t. literal drooling fucking retard
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Why DbD killers weak stickmen?
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>>180939205
Because the DBD devs believe that both sides should be able to "win"

Where as the f13 believe counselors should never win unless the Jason player is just bad.
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>>180938210

the moment you join a lobby and see a name in cyrillic or hear a Russian accent and all the pings are over 200 you should be leaving lobby.

Hell if my ping is over 200 I leave Lobby because I anticipate more non english speakers.
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>>180938323

No, cop and car escapes usually take longer to get going. Boat escapes take between 3-8 minutes. Car between 10-15, Cops anywhere from 6-18 minutes. Sometimes Jason can camp the cop exit while a well prepared AJ or Jenny is crouch walking to the exit, he grabs, she pocket knifes and escapes.
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>>180939519

Counselors should be able to get 1-4 out even vs a good Jason usually.

If more than 4 get out that's a bad Jason or at least a really bad match for that Jason.

Up to 4 can get out simply because the driver is really good and blew both of Jason's cooldowns leaving him with nothing and them with open road.
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>>180940316
Other than part 9 Jasons, any jason worth is salt simply won't let you get the phone or car up and running simply by virtue of traps.

Which makes the fact so many counselors believe the boat and 2 seater shouldn't be bothered with all the more infuriating.
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>>180940542

Phone yes because that puts a 5 minute timer on having fun.

Car no. it's much more fun to while delaying the car, not camp it completely or trap it up too badly, maybe putting 1 on the battery spot or gas spot if the hood is already closed just so that you're alerted but not trying to prevent them from EVER getting a car up.. just holding it off until later in the match when most the people are dead anyway. Some of the most fun I've had as Jason is fighting groups around the car.
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>>180940958

and I mean I used to trap up all the objectives and kill 8/8 without them even getting anything started, but really, that got boring.
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>>180933867
I pretty much agree with what he is talking about. Its funny watching all the console kiddies downvote or disagree in no meaningful way. I will carry that weight when I play Kenny with his fucking sexy blue Hawaiian shirt.
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>>180942283
My favourite is
>Kenny is good with the right perks!!
Failing to realise another counselor would be even better with said perks
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>>180942283
>not running Sgt. Kenny and screaming instructions at everyone else
>not insulting Jason's technique when he executes you
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Did these faggots fix achievements yet?
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When people say
>Triple trap the phone box
Do they mean a few in just as close to it as possible? Say it's slightly off to the side, does it still trap the counselor?
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>>180924419

Less breadth, more depth.

Do you think fighting games lack strategy too, because all you can do is attack someone directly in front of you?
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is DbD still like this?
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>>180931218
but it will
>>180930294
and fuck Evolve, that game was Slasher ADHD.
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>>180944316
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>>180930654
The same can literally be said about dbd and f13 but here we are.
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>>180943661

Yes. You do it in a triangle. 1 slightly to either side so they can't sneak in from the side, and 1 directly in front between them to give another layer for them to go through. They will have to go through at least 2 of them and maybe be able to find a spot to get in the animation without triggering the 3rd. but most times they have to trigger or disarm all 3, and with you chasing them off each time or killing them, it takes at least 10minutes for them to be able to get the phones started, if they get it started at all.
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When f13 gets a few updates under its belt with a few maps/jasons and counselors then the pop will most likely boom.
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>>180944931
How about they actually fix the bugs and make some attempt to balance it first?
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>>180945082
Are you blind or retarded?
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>>180944706
Are you blind or retarded?
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>>180944335
>But it will
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>>180945208
Are you?
Fix the turd on the plate first instead of trying to add sparklers to it.
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>>180945370
So updates dont come with bugfixes or general improvements right?
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>>180944316
>>180944507
My favorite part about this shit is that someone was so angry that the artistic levels of a kindergartner didn't hold them back from from making this shit
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>>180944316
>>180944507
Playing killer is in the best state is ever been in.
That said though a lot of the survivor tactics and nonsense still rings true
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>>180944316
>>180944507
>No one really breaks traps and hooks anymore.
>Pallet loops have replaced infinites.

The rest is still pretty accurate.


>>180945810
>Playing killer is in the best state is ever been in.

1.4 was a mistake
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Why the fuck do some of my perks simply not work in F13?

It feels like slot 2 and 3 simply don't do anything.
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>>180946836
I just learned "spawn with" shit only works in slot one
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>>180946836
>>180948914
The start with perks are bugged try moving them around and equipping and reequipping them. They all work and I don't think slot matters too much its just they're very fucky.

How do you guys find survivors in DbD I can't find anyone.
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>>180945791
Your subjective opinion of what's good "art" doesn't detract from the message, sorry. Stay butthurt survivormain.
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>puts ultra rare addon that instantly repairs one generator
>killer leaves right after loading screen
>addon is gone
At least I got the ''Risk it all'' achievement.
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>>180950745
queue in toronto instead of west africa. frogs lied about matchmaking not being tied to download regions
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>>180950843
>still have no achievements in F13

Shit's gay
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>>180920567
>have no chance of really losing the killer.
????????????
it is very much possible to lose a killer in dead by daylight. is this in comparison to f13? because in most cases if jason sees you, you're gone.
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That Cunt Sloppy Cuck Still around?
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>>180944507
Yeah, this pretty much describes my experience with anyone but the nurse in DBD.
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So is it clear now that F13 is another Kickstarter failure?
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>>180954826
No.
I could be a very good game if they actually cared about balance, but they've clearly only caring about jason being stupidly overpowered.

grab power aside, Jason's block is objectively overpowered.
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>jason focusing you because you're by the car with engine (and keys)
>tell him people are getting away on the boat
>he teleports to them and kills them while someone comes with the gas and we get away in the car
betrayal has never felt this good
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>>180955054
So what's Jason supposed to do when ganged up by counselors trying to escape in the car?
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>>180907202
This is the true solution here, at least for pubs. The benefits far outweigh the drawbacks.
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>>180955054
>shiftgrabbing will never be balanced
>placing three traps on top of each other by the phone will never be balanced
>Block will never be balanced
>awful hit detection will never be fixed

all because "hurr durr he's supposed to be OP!" I'm not even a dead by daylight shitter but the game is plagued by bad design decisions
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>>180955689
>Block will never be balanced

Only changes we need is:
Counselor block should avoid grabs (only if looking at jason)
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I went to the F13 metacritic page to shitpost but took a look at the DBD metacritic page and the review score is just as mixed.

This genre kind of sucks, huh?
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>>180954826
not as big as might number 9
but yeah i feel like they failed to meet their goal of be like a slasher movie and instead we got a mediocre at best fast action game.
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>>180931218
When's the last chance backer round and where? It doesn't seem like they've done a good job advertising it because all I've seen from them regarding it was an offhand comment on a random post.
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>>180955259
Block, but he should be able to be dealt enough damage to still get stunned through block, and he shouldnt be able to block from all angles.
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>>180956180
It should just lower the time he's stunned and prevent him from being knocked down unless he's hit with a shotgun.
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>>180950810
>MFW I play both
ur art is shit m8
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>>180956119
The genre is plagued by balance issues the best asym game ever made Dammed was piece of shit but had great game play.
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you know what really pisses me off about this fucking genre?
why do we only talk about DbD and F13
Damned was a piece of buggyshit made by a bunch of off duty Brazilian cops but they had good monster idea.
Depth was a cool concept even if the game play was really arcadey.
White noise online is a meme but White noise 2 has fantastic production values it's a real shame gun media got the IP to F13 I feel like that's the only reason it's gotten any traction like it has. What that license would of been in the hands of people who actually give a shit about gameplay and production values my fucking god it would of been amazing.

instead white noise 2 is dead and F13 gets by despite the minmal effort the devs put into anything that wasn't jason and fuck if you really look at it they didn't even put much effort into him.
all his pros and cons are them editing CD and tweaking numbers.
There's 4 unique kill animations
4 jasons use axes purely so they don't have to remake weapon animations.
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>>180957454
>white noise 2 shills still exist
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Do you ever think we're gonna get a killer who's just... a dude? Kind of like Myers, but with no ominous mask. Just some dude.
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>>180958676
What do you mean? Like what kind of abilities?
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>>180958676
If they ever make Benedict Baker into a killer like people think, he probably would fit that.
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>>180958676
Hillbilly is just some dude who's deformed, Evan is some dude.

Both of them have nothing supernatural about them at all, they're just dudes working for the entity
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My forearm hurts thanks to dbd
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>>180959292
Jerking off to meg's ass takes it out of me too.
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>>180958676
Technically, the killers are normal people that were tortured and there hope was taken away. It really makes me think there's gonna be some sort of reveal that all the survivors killed someone, even if by accident.

>Dwight is around a group of people that accidentally hit a homeless guy a car or something and he was the ringleader of hiding the body just so they'd still like him
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>>180953468
Can I help you?
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>>180959292
why? Did you punch your desk or something?
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>taking ages to find a game in Dbd
>when it does transition into loading the game, sometimes it'll just kick me back to the menu

What the fuck is this shit
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>>180959581
>the killers are normal people that were tortured
No?
Only Lisa ( the hag) and Hillybilly could consider their lives pre-entity "tortured"
Sally ( the nurse) maybe, but that was more emotional torture from the staff where she worked.

Herman (the doctor) and Evan (trapper) pretty much were sadists and did whatever they were told by any means with Herman being a legit torturer.
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>>180958219
>all time peak of 147

holy shit that's legendary
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>>180957454
>why do we only talk about the 2 "big" titles in this genre instead of the dead games
Gee boss.
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>>180960693
that's what happens when you have zero marketing skills.
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>>180960808
you mean 1 big and 1 flavor of the month dying as we speak piece of shit.
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>>180931182
this only doubles the ownage that F13 is eating DBD's dust in player numbers
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>>180960168
Button spamming I guess (space, a d, left mouse). I think it's called Tennis Elbow.
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>>180960964
I don't think it will fall much farther down than it is right now.
It'll have a "healthy" niche audience for awhile, and might get a bump in the future with balance changes, dlc, and/or sales.

It'll still be the second largest for a while to come
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>>180952040

It *is* possible to lose the killer, but you must be much more skilled than said killer in order to pull it off. The only saving grace is that 95% of survivors don't try, so killers never learn how to find a hiding survivor, and even then it's an unreliable tactic.
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>>180961616
>It *is* possible to lose the killer,
Break los and literally walk around another corner. Its not rocket science.
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>>180961616
people who pallet loop deserve to have their Achilles tendon fucking removed.
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>>180962114
A g r e e d
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>>180962114
Only if killers who never leave heart beat radius get the game treatment
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>>180963423
Am I still a nasty camper if I run Distressing 3?
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>>180964216
>running distressing 3
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>jenny
>cutest counselor
>also the worst counselor
i just wanna play my waifu but she's so bad
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>>180961317
Noooo, not a genuine and well thought out post!

But really though people are trying way too hard lately to push their faggy game rivalry shit that nobody except /v/ tier underages care about. My guess is they're still all riled up from e3 retardation.
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>>180961860

Sweetie, don't try to give advice about things you know nothing about. If the killer turns a corner and doesn't see you, they're going to look around for you, and they move faster than you can run, let along move walk or crouch-walk. To avoid the killer, you need to not just get out of view but know where they're likely to check, and the advantage is definitely on the killer's side there.
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>>180964614
i would bet $10 you use reddit
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>>180964525
She's the only counselor that can reliably escape jason without lighting up like a christmas tree on sense.
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>>180964525
just play her anyway and let AJ carry you
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JUST A REMINDER THE WAY THEY WANT YOU TO PLAY DBD IS TO HOOK A SURVIVOR THEN LEAVE HIM.
THIS IS HOW THEY WANT YOU TO PLAY YOU MUST FIND ALL SURVIVORS 12 TIMES TO WIN HOPE YOU FIND THAT FUN GAMEPLAY
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>>180964525
fuck off rusty
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>>180965717
Wasn't me, but I I share the same opinion.
She's adorable but she feels like she's only along for the ride in games like Tiffanys but is as bad as lachappa if she gets caught out
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>>180966101
I've already argued about what makes Jenny good once today, not gonna do it again. Let's just say you're wrong and leave it at that.
https://track5.mixtape.moe/ejqzfl.webm
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>>180965112
literally in what scenario?
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>>180965717
wow you shot someone
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>>180966462
I didn't shoot just someone, I shot Jason and Jason alone.
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>>180966585
jason is a person too you brute
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>>180965082
Nope, I took one look at that shithole years ago and the formatting is eye cancer and le upboat system is one of the best ways to discourage any kind of real back and forth you can come up with, because there if enough autistic kiddies get mad they can just downboat you into irrelevance. Also I'm not wrong, people trying too hard and from the looks of some of it just samefagging are sad when it's over such a pissy thing.
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>>180966428
There's nothing in any of these .webms that are displaying anything that Jenny is doing far and above better than something anyone else could have done.

I know why you like jenny, but I disagree, on pape, with "effective stats" she's the worst counselor.
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is he, dare i say it, /our guy/?
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>>180967256
the mixtape one is important, she was verging on total fear but managed to stay calm for the extra amount of time needed for Jason's sense to miss me.

The other two webms were just because I wanted to post ;em, like this one.
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pretty excited for this tbdesu
i hope that we'll get to see more of the cast of counselors we have now instead of some randoms. looks like jenny on the left but i don't know about the other two.
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>>180967563
He's just a worse Deborah.
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>>180967226
t.f13 shill
can't wait till your shit game is dead then we'll see who the redditor is
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>>180968190
It'd be nice to see the personalities of each counselor, maybe why they were a counselor. Like Chad was forced to work a summer job by his father while Kenny has been coming to this camp for years anyways.

I really want to know why best boy Adam is there
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>>180967583
Not him but you weren't on the verge of fear you had full fear your minimap was gone your ui was gone seems like jason didn't bother to use sense and he just went someone else because someone was probably actually repairing something.
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>>180964216
I miss Sloppy
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>>180968793
You can still see my minimap in the corner and my screen wasn't greyed out after I hit him with the flare gun which reduces fear and my composure let me retain it. I'd just gotten out of a 3-4 minute chase prior to this which is why I was full fear mode.
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>>180967583
>she was verging on total fear but managed to stay calm for the extra amount of time needed for Jason's sense to miss me.
I know you run sense avoidance perks, so how much of that was just them and how much was Jenny?

Also, seeing that giant orange ball during that on my screen still haunts me.
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>>180968820
Why? That guy is an asshole.
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>>180969102
my sense avoidance perks combined offer a thirty percent chance of avoiding sense when crouched.
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>>180969126
He gave me a purple medkit once
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>>180969126
Every namefag is an asshole
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>>180968528
First, how did you get that second part from literally anywhere in my post. Second, no you shit eating mongoloid, I'm tired of both sides of literal autistic manbabies pitching fits over the other game, it's embarrassing.
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upwards of 40 or so times this has worked for me now and climbing. Still 100% success.


>>180969506
Oi
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>>180969506
Korbin's the only namefag though?
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>>180969831
>Let's just give all the characters dark ass muddy colored clothes that 100% camouflage into the environment

How are the frogs this bad at balancing even the visual gameplay aspect.
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>>180969831
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>>180970007
Green shirt and brown and bloody clothes blend into yellow now?

The point of this spot is that nobody even LOOKS at it. Blending in isn't even a factor here. I was even injured so I wasn't even sitting still.
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>>180970491
meant to say arms not clothes, not that it matters
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>>180970491
>Dark ass green and brown in a map with tall dark green grass and muddy yellow bales and shit around

Shit like that and nothing ever to be done about claudette, can't have it be too hard for the special boys to sink into the scenery.
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>both black characters have low intelligence
lol
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>>180971470
based devs
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how do I avoid getting my fee fees hurt in this game?
I wasn't even camping guys.
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>>180969447
>>180969831
Do you like the new Quick & Quiet?
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>>180972306
Hook all of them two times and let them escape.
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What's this "common weapon thing on CBC, can you get different/ rare weapons and powers as the killers? if so, how do I?
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>>180970007
I could play Tartan top scene hair Nea or SFClaudette, but why the fuck would I make myself a primary target willingly?
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>>180973127
sounds hard i usually only find the bad ones
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>>180960653
>With scars and marks on their skin and body. As if they have been self-mutilating themselves. They even look dead. I fail to see some humanity in them.
>I keep trying to understand them at the same time as they stalk me. I try finding something that can pinpoint their purpose. I wonder if they might be punished? But in that case, are not I in the same position? Being punished for something, as I try to escape and find some way out of here. They play their role.

Ah, you're right I misremembered the lore.
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>>180971470
Why its called repair now.
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>>180973127
I can confirm. It takes an unusually big cunt to rage if they either escape or die by exhausting hooking possibilities without any camping.

But it's one thing to be a good GM or being a good killer.
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>>180968190
Is singleplayer going to be different from the standard game?
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>>180974294
Kane Hodder said at one point they were mocapping some more kills and things "for the singleplayer" so assumedly it could be some cool setpiece challenges or something like that with some token lore/character bits in there.
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>>180974772
Hell yeah, I'm a sucker for story. I'd love to have some details on the counselor. I hate how they all have the same fucking dialogue. I mean it's okay because the story isn't the point of the game, but Tommy having the same lines as everyone else? Come on...
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>>180975116
You say that but the most characters that share a voice actor is two, and their lines aren't identical. They're just a very typical reaction to the situation they're in. Calling for help? "Holy shit please help us Jason is real after all!" but with variances between each character like amount of swearing, chad takes forever just to say anything etc. You just bitchslapped Jason and laid him on the floor? "Fuck you, Jason!".

And Tommy has the most varied of lines. he talks about saving others when he comes into the map, challenges Jason and reminds him that "I'm the one you want" and constantly hints at it. yeah he does the same "Is that a dead body?" shit but christ, no one's coldblooded enough to see a dead body with a blood hungry killer on the loose and go, "Oh yeah let me give some exposition on my background story lmao"
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>>180970007

The game was originally intended to be more of a hide-and-seek than the chase-heavy gameplay we see today.

In my opinion, every character should be as camouflaged as Claudette in her default clothes (not the black T-shirt, though, that's bullshit).
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>>180971470

It's not called Intelligence anymore. They just have poor mechanical aptitude now.
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>Killer runs DH
>Hard camps the hooks complete with BM smacking
>Just says "Y-you're salty" when called out for not even understanding his build and throwing out buzzwords like "entitlement, you don't get and free saves, I'm cucking you you're not cucking me!" and other endless spaghetti.
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>playing as fen min just because i want to get her costume where she's covered in blood
pretty hot desu
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>>180973980
>>180960653
Wait a minute.
>Entry 26
>Each killer seems pulled from a place of great darkness, their own violent actions summons this most ancient of evils from its slumber. The Entity reaches out, taking them willingly into the place between worlds where it demands they do its bidding. They must hunt and kill the prey set in front of them. Some go willingly, others need to be convinced. The Entity tortures them until they are less human and far more thing. Until the last light of humanity has faded from their souls and they take up their weapons and sacrifice the survivors. The killers are needed to feed the Entity with the hope that keeps it alive. I am a pawn in this parasitic charade
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>>180975660
DH will never be more effective than camping so long totems exist.
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>>180976783
So why run it in the first place?
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>>180976865
counters 2 man saves
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>>180975469
The weird thing is that while (Nearly) every character has a different voice actor, the girls all have theirs right but apparently the guys all use Kenny's voice lines right now. I keep seeing that said in different places by people who are usually reliable about looking into game shit and I could see that being a weird ass bug that keeps hanging on.
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>>180975660
>run DH
>Survivor bum rushes the hook for the epic BT save and cucks me out of a token
>Facecamp the little queer and he pulls the plug to save his purple dildo

gg ez pip
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>>180977046
How?
By not getting any tokens because you're camping?

10/10 great planning.
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>Its another "Skilless Without Friends episode where they're always there to get an unhook the second you walk 2 feet, burn through gens stupidly fast and twerk in the exit gate" episode

You're literally playing the game in a state you were never meant to. You're LITERALLY exploiting, you're not good.
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>>180973993
>>180975652
Didn't know that since I don't own the game yet. I was looking at all counselors to see which one I'll play, here
>http://indieobscura.com/article/1172/friday-the-13th-the-game---all-camp-counselor-stats
>but while he can run long distances and deal some heavy attack damage, his lack of intelligence and stealth might land him in some heated situations
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>>180978959
It was at one time called intelligence, but it wasn't changed due to any kind of pressure from anyone, despite the kind of bullshit narratives frogposters would try to feed you, it just wasn't actually the right kind of descriptor when all the stat is for is "Can you hook up a car battery? Can you fix a boat engine?" so it became repair.
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>>180905078
>>180905794
>>180911215
>Read these last night
>Clock out pretty much right afterwards
>Actually had a dream about this shit
>A dream that was mostly cute though

At least Jason didn't spring up and shift-grab anyone in it, no joke I kept expecting it.
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I find it weird that F13 only ever got 2 games.
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>>180972681
I do, but it's still VERY situational. Most of the time it triggers but they either saw you or your tracks anyway, or they can just reasonably deduce what you did if they're an experienced killer. If you keep moving afterwards you can generally put enough distance so that continuing to look becomes too much of a time sink though, so it's cool. I used it that same game from the two webms i posted as well. The faster you get in the less you "bleed" before getting in including the time i ttakes to get to the locker itself so it helps a bit there.

I'm finding Lightweight, which is what I replaced with QaQ, isn't proving to have been all that big of a deal anyway, so I've stuck with QaQ for now, especially with Balanced Landing.
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>>180980991
Well you've gone and jinxed it now, expect some axe murder next time anon.
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>>180979316
I love how pouring gas and REPLACING A FUSE are hard for some characters. (Almost) always chuckle at it.
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>>180981980
While this would be more on composure, I can't fault them that much really, a 6'5 (Going by Hodder height) hulk of a motherfucker is out there and probably turning your friends into human pretzels, you're gonna have some real fucked up concentration/nerves as a regular old teenager.
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>>180982263
Fair enough.
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>>180980991
i had an AJ x jenny dream not too long ago actually
except it wasn't that cute, if you catch my drift
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which shrine perk should I get if I already have agitation?

>tfw I was 14 off from being able to get enduring from last week
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>>180983450
>Streetwise
>Open Handed
>Devour Hope

Ewww
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>crouch glitching into a closet without actually being in the closet
This game isn't even that hard to survive in, stop being twats
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>>180983006
Hey man, I said m o s t l y cute.
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>>180981980
>psycho could pop up literally anywhere
>pouring gas into car
>hear twig snapping
>shit pants and drop can all over yourself
>misfire flare gun
>die
pretty simple stuff really
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>>180955054

So basically you're saying you want the meta to be 7v1 beatdowns on Jason where he can't do anything but be stunned while the car speeds off? Yeah great idea.
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>>180985276
That's already the case if the players know what they're doing.
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>>180985434

Not with Jason's "overpowered" block. It gives him a chance to break all the counselor's weapons and then thin them out.
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>>180985635
Only idiots attack him when he's blocking. If he's just sitting there blocking, he's doing nothing and wasting time.
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>>180985782

and the moment you go to do an objective instead of holding a weapon to fight him is the moment you get hit. Eventually he picks people off.

If Combat stance/block was nerfed Jason would never have a chance to win outside of tunneling people as fast as possible, you know, playing in an unfun way.
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i'm a noob, what counselor and jason are the most OP? i hear savini is for jasons, but i don't have him, not sure about counselor.
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>>180986074
None of them you fag, they all excel at different things. Also OP Savini is a meme.
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>>180986074
For counselors, either play AJ or Deborah if you want to repair things, or Vanessa, Buggzy or Chad if you want to be for protection and distraction. Every one in-between, who aren't good at either of these things, aren't very good.

For Jason, all but part 7 are powerful. The most powerful, outside of Savini, are probably 6, 8 and 9. 2 is good against pubbies but premades will shit all over him. 3 is one of the weaker ones and only appeals to retards. He's also boring to play.

>>180986525
Savini is objectively the most powerful Jason.
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>>180986629
Honestly power level comparisons between Jasons are mostly stupid, all of them are good, even 7 because of their crazy ass hearing that nobody else gets.
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>>180987025
The hearing doesn't matter because it takes him forever to catch anyone competent.
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>>180986629
>not going adam for repair + strength combo
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>>180987197
Useful in a group setting where killing Jason is actually viable. Not so useful with strangers, basically a worse AJ without stealth.
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>>180987140
>Forever to catch anyone competent

I mean if we're talking about pubbies the only things they manage to do competently most times are cry or cheat.
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>>180987501
You don't get to choose when you're up against randoms or a coordinated group.
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>>180987736
That's just the roll of the dice, I get a lot more loosely working together groups of people than I do adderall addicted e-sports wannabes, it's rarely worth considering which Jason is "the best" or anything so I either keep it on random or I just play my favorite design. Part 8.
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>>180986525

>2.5 good strengths
>0 bad weaknesses

All the other Jasons either have fewer good strengths (8 has 1 good strength and 0 bad weaknesses, so he's also really good.. 2 has 3 good strengths and 2 bad weaknesses so it balances out)

So objectively speaking, Savini is strongest.

Or are you one of those faggots that's going to claim he has hidden weaknesses not listed.
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>>180987025

the hearing doesn't matter when you have no movement speed strengths (in fact you have 2 movement speed weaknesses) and 3 traps.

Part 7 Jason on a map with 2 cars is a really bad time. You can't guard all 3 objectives effectively and you can't chase down cars as well with that shift weakness.
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>>180988132
Well, part 8 is one of the better ones. Destruction is top tier and his weaknesses are memes.
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Do skill checks make generator go faster if you succeed?
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>>180957454

Um ..

>>180878609

Why not fucking talk about them then, instead of being a faggot?
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>>180989868
if you get a great skillcheck yes, just a normal one no
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>>180980991
>>180983006
>>180984502
Well go on, elaborate.
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>Game spawns me as the stealthiest person in the lodge and right by the car
>Jason teleports in on me within 10 seconds
>Insta-leave

Haha, fuck you. Ain't getting free exp off of me.
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>DBD bypasser doesn't work anymore
>cheat engine doesn't work anymore
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>>180990814
>Being so terrible you can't even get away from a Jason who doesn't even have sense yet

You just look like a massive baby.
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>>180991439
>>cheat engine doesn't work anymore
Works for me, maybe you should stop being a bad cheater.
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>>180991828
its not changing the values in game like it used to, what are you using it for, and how?
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>>180992641
Nope.
You never learned to use it in the first place without help when the tutorials literally hand hold you, so you're going to have to wallow or git gud
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>>180993395
Not even them but

>I'mFullOfShit.jpg

Is really how you're coming off my dude.
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>>180991439
Did you not get enough items or something? what else do you need at this point?
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>>180993640
>Not even them
i would hope you wouldn't be korbin
wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
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>>180993640
You don't know the history of Korbin's pathetic begging in the general.
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>>180991439

Yes it does, faggot. It's useless outside of Bloodpoints anyway unless you're trying to get banned.
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>>180993702
i need more scratched mirrors, its the only fun way to play michael
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>>180994886
i just tried it, its not working, i was trying to get more bloodpoints.
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>>180995056

You never needed the bypasser to begin with gayboy.

I've never used it. You can do it with just shit built into windows.
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>>180994538
>>180994712
Woops, I've become so desensitized to caring about most namefags that I hardly look at the name anymore, my mistake.
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>>180991439
ahahahahah serves you right, korfag
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>1.7 gigs
Please fix perks
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What does the new F13 patch do?
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>>180998816
Makes the girls futa.
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>>180998816

If we're lucky, it'll fix the freezing, roof exploits and items clipping through the ground. But it's probably "wow nothing".
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>>180986629
Your mostly right about the Counselors, but I want to add that a good Tiff or Vanessa can be an asset to the team by either rifling through cabins at lightning speed and running items to objectives, or juking Jason for several minutes while the rest of the team does objectives.

Both attract shitty people though so Tiffs and Vanessas in public servers are usually fucking cancer. I play Tiff and a good 2/3rds of my games are me juking a tunneling Jason for 10 minutes while literally everyone else escapes and leaves me for dead.
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>>180968642
>I really want to know why best boy Adam is there
>"He's tough and can fix a vehicle like no other counselor can. We like to think of him as the down-to-earth grease monkey at high school who looks out for others and protects them from bullies. He doesn't take any shit from anyone..."[1]
he knew he had to go protect the other counselors from jason, because he doesn't take shit from anyone
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>>180987025

>sense people you lack the mobility to catch
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>me and this other guy fix the 4 seater
>other guy has keys
>as soon as car starts he takes off without me
this community is fucking cancer
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>>180998816
>>180999429
This was posted earlier today so it'll probably have a report function and fix the roof.
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>>180856858
How do I kill motherfuckers that glitch on the top of the roof?
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Well, achievements have been fixed for public matches.

I got Chad is a Dick (and I wasn't even Chad) for taking out the boat by myself along with Aye Aye Captain and Summercamp finally.
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>>181000572
Is it possible to kill with throwing knives?
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>>181000740
Would have been nice to fix it before I killed Jason 4 times. Ah well, I'll kill him again sometime.
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>>181000945
they fucking loss speed and cant reach them
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>>181001013

Yeah I've only killed him once since I only play public matches it's going to be hard to duplicate, and some of the environmental kills might take awhile to get again like the fireplace and sleeping bag. I only got the sleeping bag because someone gave up at the end of the match and let me, jumping into a tent right in front of me when I was about to catch them.
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>>181001942
Sleeping bag is pretty much impossible to get in a public match. Fireplace isn't so hard.
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>>181000740

>more people have Super Fan than Summercamp
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>>181002068
>Sleeping bag is pretty much impossible to get in a public match
Its really isn't. There is a stupid amount of players who hide in them as AJs
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>>181002125

well now that it's fixed that'll right itself.
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>>181002247

I must have shit luck, since I've never seen anyone use a sleeping bag in normal play. Campsites in general seem entirely pointless currently, they need to be included in the item spawn pool or something.
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>>181002068

I play part 8 so it can be hard to drag someone to a fireplace, unless I catch them right at it.
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what's the best execution
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>>181001942

I'm fairly certain the incremental achievements were working fine, it was the one-time things that seemed to be fucked.
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Who started this meme that Wraith is a bad killer?
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>>181002472

exactly and killing Jason (Roll Credits) and the environmental kills are one time things, so they were broken.

I have hero 1/3, and enforcer 2/3 but not the accompanying achievements for doing those thiings once because those one time achievements were broken and they're not retroactive, you gotta do them again.
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>>181002460
Too many to list. My favourite is the one where you hang people on a coat rack simply because it means someone will find the the body hanging.
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>>181002460
Depends, we including environment? Only the universals? Only the uniques? I feel like it's almost too hard to pick a flat out best one, but I could probably pick in categories.
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>>181002460

Anything besides the choke.
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>>181002613
You can do well with bad characters in games, but that doesn't make them not by and large worse than their competition. There were people who made Dan work in the different versions of SF4 despite him being one of the worst characters consistently.
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I'm getting really tired of people actually trying to argue that savini jason having all the best stats is ok and that something like busting down doors faster is somehow not "strong".

devs need to release a similar jason already or let us buy savini, fuck the crybaby backers. Not everyone knew about this preorder dlc for a kickstarter game.
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>>180977996
>Skilless Without Friends
Thats mildly clever, i might have to start using it
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>>181005234
fuck you, I need Aj and Tiffany doing this
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>>181005517
AJ isn't for caging...
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>>181005203
Opening the Savini floodgates would just result in every other match being against a Savini. Do you really want that?
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>>181005234
hey that anon made you something, so fuck off, I want my chad fucking jenny already
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>>180999663
>AJ has better repair
Bullshit
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>>181006187
Jenny is pure.
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>Spawn as Adam
>Fix up the car like a badass
>Jason stops the car and bugs me out
>Can't move or do anything
>Start ghost driving the car like I'm in it despite being murdered
>A Bugzy climbs in the car
>Suddenly driving the car
>Paranormal_blacktivity.jpg
>Possessed Buggzy
>Buggzy's player has no control over him but I do
>Drive out alone
>Buggzy's player is marked alive while I escaped
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>>181005203

>devs need to release a similar jason

It's gonna be Uber Jason, isn't it?
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>>181005517
make it AJ and jenny and maybe it would be good, maybe
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>>181006459

Part 9 map confirmed?
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I really hate the "hooks" concept but I really love Michael Myers
Should I play DBD? I've really enjoyed F13 but at lvl 57 I've gotten bored with it especially the rampant glitchers and the overly competitive players fucking over the fun aspect
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>>181006459
This happened to me once, curiously it involved the same characters
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>>181007030
>hooked concept is bad
>while dbd is the most successful asymmetrical game ever
Its almost like their take was actually fair unlike those in the past
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>>181006675
Deborah and Jenny*
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>>181002068
>Sleeping Bag is impossible
Bullshit, dumbass Vanessa noobs hide there all the time
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>>181007242
>>181006675
Meg and Deb
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>>181007030

I enjoy the hooks and the downed state that dbd has over fridays, I either m1 you to death or a choke you to death. It lets you do more as a killer instead of just instantly killing someone.

But dbd has its good amount of competitive players as well, esp in survive with friends squads.
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>>181006675
Adam and Kenny
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>>181007242
but deb is a shit
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>>181007217
Not even gonna touch on the "Buh playerbase means good" fallacy, but they didn't even say it was 'bad' you dumb shit-stirrer, just that they don't like it.
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>>180999663
>Grease monkey
Do people just ignore the patches on his jacket or what?
He's a thrasher, he's there to get drunk and do speed+ weed
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>>181007379
No!
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>>181007242

Deb's homely looking don't kid yourself.

AJ's got the thicc booty, pretty cute face, and probably decent music taste and likes to go to concerts.

Jenny's got a good girl next door look, she's cute enough.

Tiffany is a cum dumpster but let's all admit we would.
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>>181007379
Deb is a qt though.
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>>181005517
Is this what straight people are into
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>>181007471
Tiffany is pure as the driven snow.
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>>181007615
go to bed tiff
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>>181007471
>Likes Tiffany but doesn't like Deb
It's okay to have shit taste
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>>181007547
>Trying to marginalize straight, E.G. Normal people
>>>/tumblr/
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>>181007471
Frumpy asian girls are nice.

AJ just comes off as a bad pic related to me.

Jenny's top tier.

Tiffany's a nah for me.
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>>180999685
Learn where the pin points for morph are
Part 7 is for those who know what they're doing, not those who waste their abilities and get caught on recharge at crucial moments
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>>181007446
>>181007521
but deb is a literal shit????
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>>181007698
AJ should have been blonde. We need a blonde.
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>>181007668
Aw shit I just got fucking slammed? How will I recover?
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>>181007816
hehe git gudd tumblrina
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>>181007759
it should have been tiffany then, "dumb thot" can easily correlate with "dumb blonde", much easier than goth girl can
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>>181007838
=(
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>>181007748
That's wrong tho
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>>181007816
Dont know, just do it away from here
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>>181008092
No?
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>>181007698

>a bad version of one of the best girls in the series

only shame is we didn't get to see her tits.
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>>180903028
Studies have shown that females actually prefer slasher movies
Makes sense, with final girls and all.
Males do too of course but they're more likely to have stuff like Godzilla or something in their top fives of horror
>>
>>181007217
>Success has fuckall to do with quality
Mate not only are you misrepresenting what I said, but you're just talking past me,
Guess I should go play Minecraft & CoD, by your logic. I guess you love Micheal Bay?
Fair and asymmetrical are oxymorons, idc how hard you Nerf/buff, such a game will be less fair for one side, who cares if you live or not?
I just wanna see Myers actually do his thing
Is the entire DBD fanbase like this tryhard clown? I just wanna have fun Jesus Christ who cares about pissing contests
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>>181007030
>>181008672
Myers is literally the only killer in the game that's fun to play.

Keep in mind that I said fun, not viable. For example, one of the killers named Nurse is super viable, but fucking boring to play.
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>>181008810
I disagree. Nurse is the only one I find fun to play. High skill ceiling and you actually feel powerful.
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>>181007748
>>181007471
>>181007379
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>>181008810

Alot of the killers are fun to play, you just have to find someone that fits your playstyle.

Billy, hag, doctor and myers are all fun for me.
>>
So are any of the broken perks like suckerpunch or greasemonkey fixed yet?
>>
>>181008810
coincidentally, myers is the least fun to play against as a survivor, and the only one that is genuinely frustrating to face
what did the frogs mean by this?
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>>181008810
I have fun playing my waifu
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>>180925925
>weaker killers
>A DbD clone
If it's actually balanced in groups and slight killer upper hand one on one maybe it won't flop
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>>181007217

>dbd is the most successful asymmetrical game ever

That's a funny way of saying L4D.
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>>181009384
I don't think you understand this genre, anon
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>>181007717

I still manage counselor wipes with Part 7, it just feels handicapped as fuck in the process of doing so.
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>>180927819
Part 7 is your Dante must die mode. But you sense everything and games with boats are great.
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>>181009473

I don't think you understand what asymmetrical gameplay means.
>>
>Enter thread on any website about power rankings of different Jasons
>Half the posts are retards saying that all Jasons are equally powerful and that the strongest Jason is the one you're most comfortable with

Where do these animals come from, and in such large numbers?
>>
>>181010060

I see that all the time on the steam forums.

Like every jason(except part7) is strong. But savini is clearly the best and most retarded one.

There's people that try and say that door busting speed doesn't matter.
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>>181010060

Jason power level is entirely dependent on playstyle, except part 7 who stands out as being gimped with no real benefits to offset it.
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>>181010267
i've been on the steam forums and seen people acknowledging that savini is the clear best, but that it's okay he's an OP piece of shit because you had to pay extra for him
it's at times like these where i start to believe in the power of eugenics
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>>181007663

I didn't say I liked Tiffany, just said I'd dump my cum into her.
>claiming you wouldn't fuck Tina or Terry from part 4.
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>>181010267

Seriously, how do we fix part 7? Grip strength as it stands now is pretty much pointless since currently most Jasons are just spamming 1-4 the moment they grab someone rather than trying to carry them anywhere.
>>
What new map would you like to see in F13?
>>
>>181010060
>>181010267
>>181010348
>>181010401

Every thread remarking about Savini Jason has backers inventing weaknesses that aren't listed in the character's stats.

They SWEAR Savini Jason gets stunned easier and for longer. They SWEAR that Savini Jason moves slower than other Zombie Jasons., and they also make the claim that Grip Strength is one of the most crippling weaknesses in the game, and they claim that Savini Jason's shift bonus is not as good as part 6 or part 9's Shift bonus.

I've even seen them claim that part 7 is stronger than Savini.
>3 traps
>shift penalty
>no movement speed bonuses at all
>better than someone with 5 yraps and a shift bonus

good lord.
>>
So what film areas can still be added while keeping with the theme, 4, 5 and maybe 7? 6 was just renamed CCL wasn't it?
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>>181010606

I want a map named "Manhattan" that's just a boat.
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>>181010525

part7's grip strength only adds like 8% more time to break out. so it's super useless.

Really they just need to give him either a normal shift or a morph buff.

>>181010613

If you want to get mad/have a good laugh

http://steamcommunity.com/app/438740/discussions/0/2592234299539262629/?ctp=10#c2592234299548885171
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>>181010613

DESU Savini should be released to the entire community, just make it a different skin or uglier or something.

Then nobody is mad and backers still get their faggot pixels.
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>>181010525
You could make water speed actually useful by not letting Jason morph into deep water, forcing him to actually travel across the lake to intercept the boat or race to the exit before the boat gets there. You could redesign grabs and grab kills so that stats and grip strength actually matter. If you did both of these, part 7 would still be the weakest Jason but at least he'd be playable.

The only way to truly fix part 7 is to realize that no zombie Jason should suck at shifting and no one who sucks at chasing should have fewer traps. Part 7 should have had 2's strengths. Weaker shift and slow movement, but better morph and more traps. Plays the long game and uses morph to emulate shift to make up for his awful chasing ability. That would have been a Jason worth playing.
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>>181010834
Do you really want everyone to be playing Savini? Are the part 8s not brutal enough for you?
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>>181010936

Since it would finally get him nerfed and get people to admit he's broken as fuck, sure.
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>>181010963
It wouldn't get him nerfed, and part 7 will probably never be buffed.
>>
me make new thread
>>181011021
>>181011021
>>181011021
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>>180951015
Have you been playing for 1 day?
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>>181011039

Brace for "STOP MAKING THREADS EARLY" posts.
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>>181010936

I wouldn't care as long as everyone finally gets access to it.
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>>181011093
>EARLY
maybe on puerto rican time
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>>181011198

You haven't been on /vg/ long, people tend to flip their shit if a new thread is made if the previous thread is dead as fuck at the bottom of page 10.
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>>181010606
- The town portion of Crystal Lake, mostly suburbs with a few businesses. Instead of a shack, Jason's house is the Vorhees house from part 9. Also has a map specific way to kill Jason with the dagger from part 9.

- The Grendel. It's possible to win by repairing and escaping on the shuttle, calling for help from a near-by ship and escaping out the airlock, or shooting Jason out the airlock. Counselors get obligatory futuristic outfits to go with the map.

- Boat map based off part 8. Has similar escape methods from the Grendel map. Map is called Manhattan.

- A new Crystal Lake map based on Part 4 that has two "main" houses next to each other, preventing Jason from immediately trapping/attacking both. Might include a special "trap Jason at the bottom of the lake" objective instead of the normal kill.
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>>181011312
i have been using this board for years. whatever crazy definition of "early" you use isn't commonplace if it's after the bump limit. everyone knows that the worst that would happen is it'd knock off an already fully bumped /lolg/ thread full of gay ERP into the archive, nothing of value lost.
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>>181002613
You did you retard.
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>>181009109
>myers is the least fun to play against
Speak for yourself, I love dealing with his spook antics. Now doctor is the absolute king of anti-fun. No challenge, no jukes, just lots of screaming and guaranteed unprovoked camping.
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