/wtg/ - War Thunder General

You stupid assholes forgot to post a link in the last thread.

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Post rare lads

Ded thread
Ded game
Ded discord

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>When the meme is so chic you let out a shriek
first battle royal, first 1rst place

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>>180789663
I made this only after last thread was archived plz no bully

Is there any /vg/ squandron?

>>180791553
Why would you want to associate with us?

>>180790882
>tfw no 150mm

>>180791474
The smoke grenade mortar on the KTH is so fucking cash, especially since it reloads so fast

Why are there so many Me 410s?

>>180791553
xx508

Sit here and remember the good times. Do you remember ai pzII's unloading magazines into hills? Do you remember the pillboxes shooting teammates on jungle?

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>>180792523
I miss the gamemode where you watched a plane fall to earth then had to secure the site of the crash and retrieve the sekrit dokumints, even if it was just the precursor to "see that one 15x15 foot space on the ground? hold that spot for no particular reason"
the capture points that would appear halfway through the match with the big box in the middle was nice too, helped sway the battle sometimes
>tfw ground forces will never ever be un-fucked and made kind of fun again
>tfw the power creep will continue, the russian post-wars will get put even lower on the BR scale, and 40$ memebunkers and racecars will forever rule the 6.7-7.0 black hole

>>180791485
but you also didn't post a link to the previous thread...

>>180793002
Yeah that was fun. I remember it could also appear as a d point in the standard 3 point maps for a quick ticket cut. Also
>the hordes of trucks on Kursk
>The ai Stukas and il2s that appeared over the battlefield.
Man early ground forces was broken as fuck but they really did a good job of boiling away any creativeness left on the bones.

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ship cbt fucking when

>>180795185
>5"/38 caliber gun
>Base ring mounts with integral hoists had a nominal rate of fire of 15 rounds per minute per barrel; however, with a well-trained crew, 22 rounds per minute per barrel was possible for short periods.
How much you want to bet Gaijin will nerf the living fuck out of it for balans ))))?

>>180795414
gaijin never nerfs america

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What is this? Is this some kind of orbital gun firing on the battlefield?

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>try to play 6.7 americans
>constantly put into 7.3 and 7.0 matches against swarms of T-54's and IS-6's
>very rarely see even a single T32 or M47 on our team
at least M46 gets HEAT-FS
can't wait to see it bumped up to 7.0 because )))

>>180796369
that's what artillery looks like from a distance, irc artillery is fired from each teams airfield

>guy spawns cromwell in top tier
>caps one and Js out
>spawns in firefly
>spawns in Venom
>spawns in Tempest
>spawns in Sea Fury
Pacific_Star6 you are the worst kind of cancer.

>>180796678
shouldn't matter you're already up there anyways.

>>180798206
They really need to limit to 1 plane per faggot per match, meaning it's theoretically possible for only 1 or 2 planes to exist in an entire match if most people are cool.

Redpill me about World War mode, any testers here?

>>180798993
That or make planes more expensive in GF.

>>180795185
>32 stars
>9 stripes
Gaijin HQ hit by nuke when?

>>180800748
is the flag not historically accurate?

not a burger btw

>>180800950
The US had 48 stars and 13 stripes in 1944, no its not correct, its about 100 years too late.

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>>180800950

tfw no F-100

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>>180802602
w h e n

why do AI tanks smoke?

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>>180803881
[Kills pilot in american]

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>>180804603
fuuuuuuuuckck that a dumb tou fucking stopp positng nigger dont listen to them fucking stop posintging it stop posting iiiiiiiiiiiit

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>>180804957

>>180804957
>germans were stupid enough to fly in these
top kek

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>>180804957
>europoors flying american fighters without taking their liberty booster shots

>>180805216
they were forced to by the government above them.
Bubi tried to get them removed from service but he was stopped at every attempt

Game really dead? I'm back to playing after like, a full year of not doing so and I'm not seeing a lot of players in matches, though the queue seems about as full as it was when I left. I am queuing up for reserve Nip tanks and low-tier Clappers though.

>>180805663
the slavs are asleep

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>>180805706

cyka

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>>180801013
>The US had 48 stars and 13 stripes in 1944, no its not correct, its about 100 years too late.

the flag that was sung by walt whitman before it got fat with additional stars and stripes

>But I am not the sea nor the red sun,
>I am not the wind with girlish laughter,
>Not the immense wind which strengthens, not the wind which lashes,
>Not the spirit that ever lashes its own body to terror and death,
>But I am that which unseen comes and sings, sings, sings,
>Which babbles in brooks and scoots in showers on the land,
>Which the birds know in the woods mornings and evenings,
>And the shore-sands know and the hissing wave, and that banner and pennant,
>Aloft there flapping and flapping.

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>see american plane in the distance
>it's automatically pointing it's note to me initiating a headon

every. time.

Pointing its nose I mean.

>>180807083 >>180807176

they are very playful indeed

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>>180807083
>see a G.55S/Bf 109/Fw 190 in the distance
>they point their nose at me to force a headon even if they're at lower energy

>>180807519
Shitters are Shitters

>>180807519
>g.55s
>ever at lower energy

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>>180807083
>see eurocraft in distance
>has the name of a real life historical pilot
>tries some basic shit to try and get out of a head-on
>pilot snipe him with the righteous judgement of John Moses Browning

what do you think if skill even counts in the modern aerial combat? nowadays it seems purely technical advantage and air superiority where a skilled pilot can do nothing vs an average pilot in a better plane

>>180808421
hint: you aren't the skilled pilot

>>180808546
one shouldn't be a skilled cook to appreciate a dish

Alright fellow burgers, here's the real question. Air Force or Navy?

>give a tank a pintle fiddy
>give it 2 degrees of horizontal traverse
good going burgers, you fuck up designs for the billionth fucking time

>>180809229
give them both a try and see what you like better, they both have their own differences and it's tough to tell you which one is better

>>180809414
I prefer Air Force because fast

>>180809229
Hellcat >>> every other american plane

>>180809676
>P-51D-30

>>180809229
Air Force, Gaijin has some kind of problem with naval aviation and shits all over navy planes for some reason. Maybe cause Russia doesn't have any?

>pull in behing Su-6 in P-63
>connect 2 37 rounds
>both hits
>one of his fiddies hits me
>entire right wing ripped off and engine on fire
what the fuck

>get C.202EC
>instagibbed by spitnigger
xD

>>180809676
beercat

also how is banshee?

desu i want to get g.91 so i would fight burgers but not russians,

>>180805640
Did Bubi himself get removed from service for being too loud about his dislike for the Starfighter?

>>180800748
You should point this out to Gaijew somehow.
It's one of those minor things they may actually fix.

>>180812176
He was removed for crashing a Starfighter into a bread factory.

i have heard that some italian fighters had different lengths for their right and left wings to prevent the torque effect from their prop

does it mean they are good for sb like, say, wyvern?

what fighters are those?

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>>180812258
Jesus, what's this madman's issue with bread factories?
>>180812263
The Macchi fighters all have that feature. Not sure about the Fiats though.

>>180811795
Slow, turns like a brick, shitty acceleration. wont rip though. But at 8.0 because 20mms ))))))))

>>180810108
>Playing anything other than the Jugs
You should've seen it coming

>>180812892
already died in my jug, in which I killed 2 dumb slavshits who decided to just head on me

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>Italy released
>hoping to see Malta again
>every game is just the same Bulge or Ruhr
Bulge, Ruhr and Berlin removed from Italian rotation when?

>flak bus hits my flat mantlet on my jumbo
>takes a 90 degree turn down directly into my ammo
no bias)))

Why does Gaijin set the spawn to airfield sometimes for interceptors?
It's fucking retarded when you press Enter without realising it was set to airfield for no reason other than )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

why the fuck is the IS-2 still at 5.7
the 1944 needed a buff, not the original one

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Red Alert crossover when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJnMaTx4yjI

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>decide to drive KV-1 L11
>Carpathians
>bots are driving higher BR vehicles than me
Nice MM Gaijin

>>180815726

>The 1944 needed a buff

NiBBa at this point it's more paper than the E-100 with all the armor schemes Gaijin threw together to give it the best possible protection

>>180817110

KV-1 drivers strike me as pleasant people, I don't know why

They don't fall for the T-34 temptation yet aren't as obnoxious as Tigger driving naziboos

>>180817236
KV-85 chillest heavy

>>180817161
and how is that the case

>>180817381
>>180817236
How's the KV-1S actually?
I was looking forward to it but they added it while I was on a break from WT.

>>180818715

It's a sidegrade
Mobility gets improved quite a bit but your armor goes down to medium levels

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>still no summer event

>>180789369
has there seriously been no Bote cbt since March?

>>180819430
dont know
dont care

>>180819430
we had one a few weeks ago testing destroyers

Why is it okay that p40s face biplanes?

>>180821606
>the spastika

>>180821779
>only have to add something like a diagonally turned balkenkreuz to finish it

I'm okay with this.

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Which Japanese tanks actually saw combat in WW2?
I know that most their tier 2 tanks were produced but kept in reserve for the defense of the home islands.
Did their assault guns see more combat or were they also reserved for the home islands?

>>180821848
Kys filthy Nazi

Whats up with panther F and II turrets, they're slightly sloped so if it should bounce its upwards but in game its quite often bounces downwards ???

>>180822508
What about the gun mantlet?

>>180822508
>F and II turrets
>bouncing shit
hahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>180822726
nah, even happense with side shots into turret,done it with apds too

>>180822742
the turret itself doesn't but the barrel

why is the a-20g so shit

>>180823882
>a-20
>shit
Also, you probably weren't even playing the game when that shit was sonic incarnate

>>180824817
Not him, but
>it was good once
>therefore it's to be considered good forever
What kind of argument is that

>>180821606
>breaks down

>>180825295
but it's still good. It was even better before, that's all i said. learn to read.

>>180825709
how is it still good?

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>mfw driving T25 and never making it to the front line before the fight is over

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>> Come back to Germans after about 5 months away
>> Start with the 190-D9
>> "I've heard a lot of good things about this plane"
>> Fly it

((Not because its bad, because its faces 18 Griffon Shitfires every single time))

>>180827454
get good faggot

griffon spits are bad

>>180827636

Except you're an idiot, and EVERYONE flies them because they are stupid OP.

>>180827636
+5 schillings!

>>180827673
>>180827702
>t. bad players

griffon spits are shit, and you're only complaining about them because you're a fucking shit flyer who can't kill them

>>180827771
I own and used all the Griffon spits before switching to burgers.

-5 schillings for poor effort!

>>180827771

>> Guilt-complex Spitcuck spotted

Don't try to legitimate your disgusting habit here you cunt.

>>180827771

This nigga....

Its like he hasn't played the game in 2 years and doesn't know how bad its gotten.

>>180827840
>>180827843
>still have no argument as to why griff spits are good or OP

you're bad

>>180827960

Wouldn't have to explain it to someone who actually plays the game concurrently.

Which also guarantees I'm better than you.

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>>180790882
I'm still hoping that they'll release the alternative version of the E-100 to the wider public.

>>180827960
>be the first to claim something retarded
>get laughed at
>N-NOT AN ARGUMENT
lmao
kill yourself, -10 schillings

>>180827454

D9 can fight a Griffon Spit 1v1, assuming you sideclimbed/built up a good energy advantage.

But fighting whole teams of them? Yea, the meta's fucked.

>>180828017
>Which also guarantees I'm better than you.
uh huh

well I mean I can kill griffon spits fairly easy and you can't sooooo

>>180828191

>> My e-peen is THIIIIISSSS BIG
>> still have no argument as to why griff spits are easy to kill in a D9

Rekt, faggot.

>>180828126
>waaaaaaaaaaaaah griffon spitfires are OP
>no they're not
>SHILL -10 SHILLINGS NO ARGUMENT

>>180828391
>unironically saying Rekt
back to plebbit with you shitter

>>180828553

>> Continues to not have an argument

Check your privilege, you white male.

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>>180828413
>>180828553

Chillblains!

Sheathe your opinions!

You're not convincing eachother.

At what point to brit fighters start packing guns that aren't garbage? They're great for having tons of guns but not for those guns being something other than rifle caliber for fuck sake. I can only take so many sparks and 'hit)))' before I start to look longingly at the american planes.

>>180828695

Pretty hard to be convinced when someone doesn't even have tangible evidence to support their claim that Spitfires aren't OP.

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>>180828831
OP is a sliding scale. One mans 2-OP is another's PO-2.

>>180829113

Except the Griffon Spits' superiority is a recognized and long-standing problem, making it an issue with an objective reality.

>>180829113
>doing something this horrid to a poor innocent T-34
Fucking Brits.

>>180829113

You see Ivan, if of paint T34 as hippie Volkswagen bus, is of blend in perfectly in decadent Western cities.

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>>180829238
this is what it looks like now

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>>180829238
It's in London. They were always going to do something stupid to it.

>>180829218
It's very good, but is 'very good' the same thing as 'OP'?

>>180829431

Well let's see:

>> Outturns, outclimbs, outdives the vast majority of planes it comes up against
>> Munitions on par or exceeding its typical opponents
>> So good that its normal to see entire enemy teams stocked with them
>> 3-4 of them on a team leads to Allied victory ~80% of the time
>> So popular that its one of the most copy pasted series of planes into the other nation's trees
>> Widely considered by the community to be EZ mode, and even without cynicism, results in the Brit tree being recommended for beginners because of it

The only thing going against it is that it encourages Brit pilots to be idiots and German pilots to actually work together. It doesn't have a hard counter, just the soft counter of a German team MAYBE flying as a team.

>>180829765

Yep. It's very good. OP? Maybe. That's up to the individual to decide.

R.E. G.55

>>180830036

Its for Gaijin to CORRECT.

And the G.55 won't stay as good as it is now. Two months from now it'll be nerfed dogshit, when the new FOTM comes out.

>fly out in a Spitfire MkIIa
>Bf109s keep trying to turnfight me

Why

>>180830724
Muh best plen of the war

>>180830851
Even if they don't know much about the spitfire in particular, brit fighters in warthunder are best known as turnfighters surpassed only by some jap planes, so why the fuck would you ever get into literal certain death like that? All you're doing is bleeding energy against a plane that can out-turn you until you're dead rather than trying to boom and zoom.

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Is premium King Tiger worth it? How King Tigers handle now, that its BR became honeypot for wallet warriors?

>>180831008
I can sort of see what they're trying to do, because for some reason even spitfires laugh at high speed dives and there's no fucking way to get away from them before they rip your asshole open with a barrage of 7.7's
There's no outrunning, outclimbing, or outturning a spit, I've tried all 3
the only way to beat ONE is by having a competent teammate who can take advantage of you acting as bait, unless you get lucky enough to come across one of the ones who are brain dead and broke orbit early to chase some other poor asshole

>>180831340
Since iS-6 king tigers are redundant

>>180831523
>lying

>>180831447
If you're in a boom and zoom fighter like the 109 though, you should just be diving from altitude, hitting your target, then escaping at very high speed and, once you're at a safe distance, zoom climbing to turn all that energy back into potential energy for your next dive. Unless your enemy is something you know cannot turn for shit, like a heavy fighter or bomber, you just shouldn't be hanging about ever for them to respond.

>guy has 10 (ten) respawns

what the actual fuck is this shit?

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Is the Panther II worth dealing with Caernarvons?

>>180832030
nevermind he has another 2 more planes to bring out lol

>>180831851
I've tried to boom and zoom, though. Every time, even after side climbing, I've seen at least 2 spitfires higher than me. Every time I dive, the target in question either notices me because "lel nametags" or continues to UFO around the poor bastard he's currently fighting
in the case of the tunnel-visioned ones I can usually get a good shot off and kill them, but the ones who notice me either helicopter up and catch me as I pull up/abort, or pull an unholy fuckton of energy out of their ass and chase me across the map, always staying within 0.50km
There is probably something I'm doing wrong, but that doesn't change the fact spitfires are fucking ridiculous right now
I would honest-to-god rather fight a Zero, because at least I have a chance of outrunning the Zero

>>180832487
If it helps, spitfires at this tier are generally about 400km/h max speed without a dive. If you dive on one and then zoom away faster than that in level flight using energy from your dive, you cannot be caught. Also, in a dive they'll go to something like 600km/h? So if you can get faster than THAT then you really will just leave them in your dust no matter what.

>>180832039
Do you want to flank every single time and do nothing else?
Sure.

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>>180832614
I know the bit about level flight usually works, but I've still yet to manage escaping them in dives, even hitting 700km/h+ against Mk1's and 2a's doesn't seem to do anything
maybe I just need to say "fuck it" during those dives and try to make them pull too many G's and rip, thanks for the advice anyways

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>Client stability has been improved

>>180831845
+2 GE

So I haven't played a while. Does the IS2 44 still one shot every cunt that it can face ?

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>>180832030
11 slots max + backups

>>180834372
Holy shit that k/d is fucking depressing

literally wallet warriors

>>180831340
Since IS-6 any 88 Gun is useless.

And you will get IS-6 on every Matches

>>180835736
if I can kill an IS-6 frontally with 20pdr APCBC, there's no excuse when you're in a fucking tiger II

are premiums overpowered?

>>180836907
why would yuo think that?)))))))))

>>180836907
Some are good vehicles. Some are just terrible (Chi-Ha Short Gun, Grant I, etc). Depends on the vehicle and where you encounter it.

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why is she so cute

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>>180833046
What I like to do is burn their energy until they're too slow. What this means is that I engage them in a head on (spitfires are cocky fucking retards so they go for it 90% of the time). Now spitfires function generally the same and they'll try to "dodge" your head-on" and get behind you. What you do after they dodge is turn in a way that will force them to create a wider turn (So if they dive past you and start turning to the right, turn right as well so they'd have to burn more energy). The spitshitter will always have less energy than you this way, since you had to waste less energy to turn. You don't want to actually fight in the head on, so dodging his laserpanos is necessary.
I'm not sure about you, but I've noticed Split s turns being highly effective against spits.

I want Gaijin MODS to admit that the IS6 was a fucking mistake to add in game

>>180839019
>play teebshits
>IS-6 is a non issue

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why do i have to fight cold war britbong tanks with guided missiles in my panther a

>>180839283
Superior Aryan engineering meme, 20 years ahead of the world etc.

>>180839283
>why are russians, a race of ultranationalists who react to everything with violence and hate, so salty that even now they want germans to suffer

It is a mystery, anon.

>>180835736
>>180831523
>see IS6 a battle royal match in my KTH
>heart sinks but I still light his engine on fire after bouncing a shot off his butt
>chinese paper armored T55 nukes the IS6 before it can shoot me
>nuke chinkshit and go on to win the battle

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Hellderp when?

Also APHE and APDS ammo for 105mm howitzers when?

>>180840297
when we get the Cromwell 6 with HESH

When is the G.91 getting fixed?
>never ever

>>180796001
Is Gaijin covertly pro-NATO?
I wonder what Russian Ministry of Information would think of that

)))

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>>180829113
>still can see the horrendours weldwork even beneath that thick coat of hippie painting

>>180836375
post proofs

>>180839283
> You can actualy end up facing the STRV in a Panther D.

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when))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

What makes the Hitlerbolt so good? Is it undertiered? Is it really retard-friendly? People say it's an ATM basically but would like to know why before I consider touching it.

>>180841547
>rociless
Anon I...

Do you still get all the xp and lions and shit after leaving a match when you died?

specifically in GB realistic. I get the feeling you dont

>>180843536
You do,

>>180841196
how is this fair

> america T34 and soviet SI6 players start sperging it out and start tking each other in sim event

Tell me do brits suffer from this? I don't want to play with fucking weaboos and their ingame ERP in team chat. Two nukes weren't enough. Nor do i want to play with typical tiger II players

>>180845168
Brits are shell-shocked husks of men. Either they're still in the lower tiers, suffering and having all of the fun ripped away from them, or they're in the upper tiers, their souls long stripped bare as they efficiently exterminate the opposition with their HESH.

>>180844823
You already face PT-76s in your Panzer 4.

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My video driver keeps fucking hanging and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
>It only happens in WT
>my GPU is running well within optimal perimeters
>All my drivers are up to date
>I can run the game at 100+ FPS on abosulte max settings (custom) but sometimes it will randomly black screen and reduce texture to worse than dog shit.
>I have been having this problem ever since I started using my new PC for WT
>using DDU to change my driver every time it started hanging used to work but now apparently it doesn't
>when changing drivers I always checked "preform clean installation"
>new drivers would just do the same thing if I didn't uninstall hanging driver, install different driver X, uninstall driver X, and reinstall driver X
>changing drivers would only work for about a day before hanging started up again
Send help.

>>180845584
post specs (speccy)

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>buy P-80
>grinding first tier mods
>already 1/3 to F-84B just playing AB for 3 minutes at a time

Why the fuck is Plane RP so much more rewarding for shitters still? I have fucking Tier IV American tanks with 30k mods that take forever to Spade

>>180810108
But the P-63 can't compete against russian attackers, gaijin lower their br!

>>180845482
> pt 76
> the tank with heat fs that does no damage after penetration unless a direct hit on the ammo rack and even then it can just turn red because )))
> a tank that can be killed by any calibre above 7.62mm
> a tank with 11.1 second of reload
> a light tank that is as fast as medium tanks
You'll be hard pressed to find a non SPAA tank with overall stats worse.
http://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/ussr_pt_76b

>>180845935
So they'd feel like they're making big progress and go "well if this plane's bad, maybe the next one that I'll research be better". This is what I think everytime I wanna rip my hair out from retarded teammates.

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>larp as burger
>cut dick and turnfight everything

Pick both

So whats the deal with the planes spinning out of fucking control with only a bit of damage, like they suddenly turned full tard. This is not SB im talking about, but RB, they full on lose their shit and jerk around not even falling down but anywhere where you aiming.

>>180848404
improved DM)))

Noticed with me 262, its like packet loss 100%

>>180830724
isn't mk ia better?

what bomber will let me use it as a fighter

>>180838017
Well my friend who just got into the game has decided that premium tier 1 planes have hidden bonuses to survivability and damage.
I keep trying to tell him that' it's just seal clubbers but it's really not getting through his head.

>>180848984
B-25

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>>180848404
that always happens with the PB4Y when you take any kind of damage to the wings

>>180848984
arado C3 and B7A2

b7a2 turns better than most planes it sees

>>180848984
b-34, btd-1

>>180830036
>Comparing super props to mildly undertiered premium aircraft that exist to farm money for Gaijin
Every time a new closed beta test for a tree opens up Gaijin adds something as op as they can get without being 100% shameless, this is why we have a G.55s not a G.91Y as the premium pack you shit.

how do people fly with cockpit view? i get really triggered by it blocking 60% of the screen

>>180848984
Beaufort

You only get one gun and it's mounted far out in the wing, so landing hits can be tricky. But in my experience it's a good bomber hunter (bombers at that BR aren't very well protected) and I've even beat some fighters in dogfights.

>play axis
>every time allies are twice as high as we are
why

>>180841547
never because the guy who made it was sent to the gulag and killed because he was "wasting resources" or some shit.

>>180850665
gotta maintain those 37% winrates on fascist scum

>>180850349
>G.91Y
>plane made in the 1960s, when other nations have already mastered mach 2+, isn't even supersonic
can italy do anything right

>>180851123
first flew in 1956, entered service in 1958, and didn't need to be supersonic for it's intended job
mongol

>>180843346
IMO it's the single most undertiered premium in the whole game.

Israeli tech tree when

>>180848912
I think it has better turn rate and climb, yeah, but the IIa is better armoured so i'm less likely to get obliterated by a small child throwing a pebble. And brit planes are kind of really fragile, so even that little bit is welcome when you already outturn and outclimb everyone anyone.

French tech tree when.

>>180852078
How is it played, then? I haven't played american planes at all so all I know is that they like to head-on over and over and saw bombers in half with a hail of .50 cal.

>>180852525
It's the same as German planes. Fly up, dive on low altitude cucks, maintain air superiority. The huge benefit of the Hitlerbolt is that it doesn't have to deal with moronic allied teams.

>burger cancer in their undertiered bullshit who climb to space
Corsair is worse than the spacefire desu

>>180851123
NATO specifications called for a light ground-attacker that could carry a good payload and operate from even the shittiest of airfields like roads or grass fields and not for a super-sonic fighter.

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REMOVE AMERICAN ATTACKERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>180852835
Oh, i'm arcade cancer so mixed teams anyway. Flying around in my spitfires in turn fights against people who don't know better. I'm not sure I could handle playing RB with how much slower it'd be.

>>180852839
Why the Corsair specifically? I'd understand if it was a P-47 dicking around in 11km altitude, but the Corsair? Maybe the firepower of the x4 cannons but that's about it. I have never seen a Corsair actually fly to space, nor have I tried it myself, it's a naval plane, I doubt it'd function well above 6k.

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>>180853059
early corsairs are undertiered as fuck

>>180853051
Regards to Arcade then the Hitlerbolt's only bonuses are its bonus lions and RP and the 2.7 BR The air superiority though stays the same. But from my experience of being an arcadecuck, most people don't climb above 4000m so you should be safe somewhere at 5000m. Then again it's 2.7BR, so you will probably assrape everyone even at 3000m.

>>180853331
F4U-1a did nothing wrong

>>180852078
what about the slavbolt?

>>180853051
RB is worse if you want to stay as Britain. In RB you'll be matched with American teams and you're guaranteed to have at least 3 slots on your team by bombers/attackers who will head straight towards the enemy and be killed off without contributing anything. AB is unironically more balanced cause both sides can have that shit.

>>180853362
Yeah, i'm noticing the 2.7 BR. I'm guessing it's going to just use all those M2s like a sawblade, and if it's Boom and Zoom then it'll fit in fine with my Bf109 E-3 and E-4 at 2.7 and 3.0 respectively.

>>180853579
You're better off using the Pokryshkin's P-39 Airacobra. A better American P-39 basically.

>>180853771
>and if it's Boom and Zoom
Pretty much every single burger plane is a Boom and Zoomer. The P-47 is fantastic because it is basically faster than everyone else at that BR, also dives like a beast. No one will be able to catch up to you, and if there's some tryhard Level 100 Erich Hartmann wannabe then you will always have superior high-altitude performance and speed to whatever shit plane he's flying.

>>180853331
>>180852839
corsair can climb to space
t.109 player

>>180853936
Awesome. Is it really shitty in a turn-fight, if it comes to some high altitude furball? Like, can I actually still outturn some stuff or am I better off just trying to dive to safety?

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>mfw IS-6

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Who here on my level?

>>180854757
It's ok at turning in high speeds. At low speeds you're fucking done for and you're better off just diving out.
>Is it really shitty in a turn-fight, if it comes to some high altitude furball?
Depends what we mean by high altitude, 7000m? Everyone will struggle with turning except for you. 8000m and above? You're untouchable. But since this is arcade, you're better off just using your speed and energy retention rather than engaging in turnfights, unless it's some shitty turning plane that is very slow.

>>180856110
Okay, thanks for the tips. I've been hitting the point where stuff starts costing 230k for the vehicle alone and enough of those have drained my dosh built up from earlier tiers. And it's only going to get worse.
Also, why is higher climbing more common in RB anyway?

>>180856078
>not a lifetime ban
step your game up senpai

>>180856415
bost broofs, gomrade.

>>180856410
With the Hitlerbolt you should be swimming in $$$ anyway.
>why is higher climbing more common in RB anyway?
Because altitude and speed reign supreme in that mode. If you don't have an altitude advantage, you are basically at the upper plane's mercy. You can't engage him because you will become very slow if you try climbing to him. If you try to get away and sideclimb you'll be extremely vulnerable and he'll be faster than you, so harder to dodge. You can only keep dodging him, which means you'll never be able to fight back unless he fucks up and decides to waste all of his altitude
dvantage/energy to start turnfighting or w/e. Basically, in RB if you don't have an altitude advantage or speed advantage over your enemy, you can't do much to them, because planes aren't UFOs so they can't turn on a dime, thus it's much harder to dodge. This is also why German pilots have fairly high winrates, their planes are natural high-altitude fighters. And it's also why everyone despises Americans for flying low, because they are not using the biggest advantage that their plans can have and need - Altitude.

>>180836375
No you cant, stop lying over here, Gaijin is not paying you to shill here.

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What the fuck do you do if you already have all the vehicles in the "Die Hard" pack. I want the fucking emblem.

>>180858351
Extra $500, goy.

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Is this game hard to get into? It looks fun and I just got a stick for some AC emulation, it came with some kind of premium for this game.

>>180858734
Not especially. Just jump in and have fun. Tip for Tier 1 in tanks: Play a lot of Eurobeat.

>>180858734
it's godawful
not too hard to get into but the grind and blatant unbalance will eat your brain
also stick for this is meh, since sim battles are ded and reaslitic only necessitates a mouse+kb.

>>180858351
Is the KT Sla. worth having if I already got a Talisman KT and Panther II

>>180856769
Ah, thanks. To clarify, I have only literally this second bought the hitlerbolt, have been wavering on it for days now because MUH SHEKELS.
If I take it out along with a 3.0 plane, will I suddenly hit some terrible sweet spot where I get obliterated by something that I wouldn't face in 2.7 planes?

>>180858943
Well, it damn sure must beat a ps4 controller. If it's so unbalanced, which nation has the best planes? I don't really want to go burger but going Ussr or Germany feels unpatriotic. Are japs any good?

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>>180856458
))

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FUCKING WHEN REEEEEEEEE

>>180859365
>I can't control my feelings

>>180859229
If you want easy to fly planes, take Brit fighters and climb into the ionosphere, then pull a handbrake turn into a turn fight where you can't possibly lose.

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The Jagdtiger would've been meme if it looked like this.

>>180858734
The grind for new players today is ridiculous. Back in the day unlocking new stuff was much faster. You had all nations available from the start, you didn't have to research and buy individual vehicles to progress and the RP rewards were much higher.

>>180859365
>permanent devoice from the game

fucking lel

>>180859820

I'm so glad I started playing this when it was in beta.

I have a decent amount researched in all nations except spaghetti, and going through that new tree is insane

>>180856078
why does everyone here have such a bad temper that they keep getting banned from chat? Do you just call everyone a faggot or something?

>>180859104
Not at all, the difference isn't that huge anyway.
American P-47s are at 3.0-3.3 BR IIRC and I destroy shitters when I feel like doing some Antimech wagers in Arcade. I'd say the P-47s should be at 4.3 or something because of how well those monstrocities perform. American planes are EXTREMELY undertiered, premiums more so. So you should be fine with anything you face.

>>180859229
play it on PC if you have the occasion, it runs on absolute toasters. you get custom skins and shit.
Best planes are Americans but american teams are fucking terribad, russians get bullshit planes and shit teams, germans/japs get usually able teams with unbalance out of the ass (in the favor of the opponent) and brits get shit teams with slightly less horseshit planes than the russians do.
However I know I feel filthy as fuck flying either russians or british and you'll most likely get btfo'd by a decent brit/russian player that knows what they're doing, thankfully enough they're usually bad at anything that isnt turnfighting.
Playing Americans, Japs or Germans is usually rewarding in it's own right since their planes play nice and knowing how to play burgs/nazers will give you unlimited power.
>>180859912
>tfw you joined during 1.27
>you barely have to grind, playing is fun in itself
>progress to tier 13 in nearly no time
>1.35 rolls by
I fucking hated gayjew for this. I still do.

>>180859969
I say "kys spitnigger" every time I gun one down.

>>180860091
jesus christ i just deleted an il-2 with a half-second burst of stealth rounds this is beautiful

>>180859969
>turn to flank tiger
>he engineshots me
>on fire
>Firefly rams me into the side
>sees tiger shooting at me
>backs up and does nothing as I get On Fire'd till death
niggers deserve to be insulted and I run into them much more often than I can fucking recall it.

>>180860246
You're lucky you got it after the .50 cal buff. Planes straight up explode right now from bursts, have fun spreading Democracy(?) with the Hitlerbolt.

>>180860137

when did they add the shit with crew levels?

I honestly cant remember if it was there in beta, but it feels like it was either added or greatly expanded at some point. This is one of the most egregious parts of the grind imho.

>>180860571
>play my first match with the hitlerbolt very carefully and conservatively since it's a shiny new plane that I don't know well
>survivor, the best squad, terror of the sky, 46k kitties

Fucking hell

>>180860695
I dont remember it clearly either since I never paid attention to it
but it brought up a very important point when I was shitting around in CB with my buddy
>have hellcat, he's in 109
>barely pull G's before I black out
>his crews are nearly all aced
>get shredded because I didnt upgrade the crews

>>180860695
It was added like 2 years ago IIRC. I clearly remember the crew level changing somewhere in late 2015/early 2016. It came after they removed the x2 bonus.

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>>180821996
Japanese tanks were a rare sight, and the only time I can think of that they managed to do anything serious was a small breakthrough of tankettes on Guadalcanal killing a dozen or more. After that Shermans or other US tanks/anti-tank would put a stop to them real quick. So to answer your question, a some light tanks/tankettes, Type 95 Ha-go, Type 98 Ke-ni, Type 1 Ho-ni and its variants, Type 97 Chi-ha and its variants, and the Type 2 Ka-mi, which made several attempts to land behind US troops, but failed. I think that's all of them but I'm not sure, check yourself if you really want to know.

>>180861053
Imagine the reaction of a Jumbo approaching, probably looked like a mobile bunker to them.

>>180860695
I think I remember crew skills being around for a long time, but it was overhauled to where it is now years ago. Used to be a lot easier to train crews. The black out stuff is recent, used to work kinda like stamina now where pulling Gs would increase turn time and roll rate

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Are the Hispanos still "nerfed"?

>>180861506
ShVak pride worldwide.

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>your tank when FAB-3000

>>180861506
>that wing

2 THICCCCCCCCCCC for high speed

>>180861053

They used larger numbers in Burma, on the order of multiple regiments. They got btfo by M3 Lees and Stuarts, not even Shermans.

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I need Po-2 practice.... I came in too low and the thing can't climb for toffee.

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Who else is tired of fighting but can't stop playing because someone has to make sure naziboos suffer?

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>>180863452
>naziboos suffer
>suffer
:^)

>>180863636
You might be good, but german teams are the americans of GF.

>>180863717
He might also just farm AI. Do not be deceived by naziboo lies, friend.

how do i get xp in a plane that can't kill anything and gets killed by everything

>>180863797
>farm AI
prove it works

>>180863908
Go Arkaden and shoot bombers forever. That or shoot AAA and artillery if the map has them.

>>180863908
Stay away from battle and undetected until the enemy team is mostly destroyed, then go and farm ground targets

>>180859365
Well done, mate.
>>180860223
this
>>180860429
this.
Usually i just tell my teammates how useful they are.

Okay wow Hitlerbolt confirmed for complete bullshit. If I take stealth rounds, planes just explode into pieces. If I take tracer rounds it's a fucking flamethrower.

>>180865527
>tfw i only have the slavbolt
>tfw i'll never enjoy setting burgers on fire

>>180858351
Will T29 pack come separately from Thick Skinned pack with discount

>>180865527
>(((((((((((premium)))))))))))))

They have been doing this flavor of the month shit forever

Remember the ta?

>>180865527
Tracer rounds aren't really recommended if the enemy pilot has half a brain, since they'll realise what's going on before you blow them u p. But if it works, use it if you want.

>>180865835
Yeah, i'm using it and then going for planes I know are largely fabric like Wellingtons for instance. I don't know if that really works but I sure as hell happen to be turning them all into fireballs so SOMETHING is happening. Plus they mysteriously have as much penetration as the stealth rounds when as far as I know tracers normally can't penetrate for shit.

>>180865807
I'm actually pretty new, only started maybe a month ago tops. Up to end of Tier 3 in german tanks, end of Tier 2 in their planes. Start of Tier 3 in Brit tanks, end of Tier 2 in brit planes.

>>180863942
Are you stupid? Look at your profile kills, kill an AI, and check again after the match is over. It's easy.

What the christ. I've just looked at the armour on this hitlerbolt and now I understand why americans love head-ons. 60mm effective armour on the front of the canopy. I have literally driven tanks less well armoured than this plane canopy.

>>180867872
A well armored canopy won't protect you from critical hits to the engine and wings.

>>180867872
I'd say Americans love head ons more because of the retarded as fuck accuracy on the .50 cals. Sniped a Jap from 1.2km with 300 rounds.

>>180865785
)))))

>>180860091
p-47 are 4-4.3 or so in rb iirc
why do you play arcade anyway, it's the shittiest possible mode

their low br in arcade because every shitter can spam cannons non-stop in arcade while bolts have fiddles and also bcause they are bad in turn fight and every shitter is supposed to turn fight in the mode for shitters

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Friendly reminder that Spitfires in this game aren't good just because they fit the supposed meta, they were just that good in reality.

and if you complain about Spitfires in your german/russian/american plane, then you're just admitting superiority to the Supermarine Spitfire :)

>>180869715
>why do you play arcade anyway, it's the shittiest possible mode
I play Realistic, I only mentioned the 3.3BR because the anon over there was talking about Arcade and he plays arcade, so I used BR statistics. Also I agree with your last part. What makes fiddies lovely in Realistic is the amount of munition you have (P-47N especially).

>>180870000
I'm that anon, yeah I just play in arcade. I find planes take forever as it is - i'm literally in a match right now as I type this, flying my hitlerbolt in a dive - and RB would be even longer. It's just not something i'm keen on yet.

>>180869857
And I suppose US naval planes under preforming is historically accurate )))) too?

>>180870292
Makes sense. It was the superior american battleships that won them the pacific, not their fighters and carriers.

>>180870292
what planes are underperforming?

I know corsairs are a bit too slow, but what else?

>>180870292
irl they were piloted by more competent men than the current burger teams. but then, hellcat on tier 2 and beercat on tier 4 are amazing

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>>180867872

The jugg was a godly machine

>>180870454
Bearcat cooling, turning, and power output are underperforming, Hellcats are absolute garbage compared to real life as are the Corsairs.

>>180867872
who cares if your pilot is sniped or if your engine is set on fire/your wing is torn off on a single 20mm high explosive hit

>>180870727
>Hellcats are absolute garbage compared to real life as are the Corsairs.
uh, in my experience both planes are pretty good in this game

care to elaborate?

>>180870727
it doesn't look so to me

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Reminder that the emblems unlock automatically if you own all the vehicles in the packs already and play one game during the sale

Pic unrelated, a grill I saw onnatrain today

>>180871220
>actually taking creepershots of sleeping grills
The fucks wrong with you anon? Keep this shit on /b/.

>>180871220
>Taking pictures instead of starting a conversation with her

F A G

>>180871220
not sure if it's a girl, i see no boobs

>>180871220
>those thighs

WEW

>Run War Thunder through Ge Force Experience instead of Steam
>automatically get a 5 FPS boost.

Fucking shocking.

>>180871220
Nonce

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>>180870454
actually I did some tests and the F4U-1d is actually as fast as it was in reality
according to http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/f4u/f4u-1d-acp.pdf
>V-max. sea level: 358 mph
compared to 360 in pic related

>>180872635
different anon, I was talking about the F8F and the F6F, and the wings of the F9F-8.

>>180872747
I know that the bearcat ingame is running like 400hp short of what it's capable of, but
>F6F
in what ways?

>>180872747
Actually you know what, I thinks its just Grumman aircraft that preform odd.

>>180873131
which bearcat, the fiddle or the cannon one?

also stuff like the racing bearcats there are around nowadays like "rare bear" it's not what they actually had in the air force to the end of 40ss, they had significantly modified engines

>>180873660
Cannon one.

with wet WEP as far as I know it should be pushing out something like 2750 hp, while ingame it's much lower.

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>F9F-8
>MiG-17 rams me at full speed

>get on a bomber's tail since i've knocked out the gunner and there's no other enemies anywhere nearby to save him
>start unloading cannon into him, tearing him apart
>an ally suddenly slams into me from behind as he tries to killsteal, killing us both even though he was coming from directly behind and couldn't possibly have not seen me right in front of him

Do I need to have a high-vis vest on my plane or something before retards stop doing this sort of thing?

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>>180871220
Thanks for the heads up

have a meme

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>>180873660
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=F8F-1_Bearcat
>2095 HP
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=F8F-1B_Bearcat
>2085 HP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F8F_Bearcat
>2300 HP
i'm not the guy you originally replied to, but his post made me curious

>>180874404
Pretty much. At least they killed themselves as well... Often they take your wing off but survive themselves.

>>180874598
this source gives them 2100-2225 hp though...

http://www.aviation-history.com/grumman/f8f.html

>>180875219
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/F8F/F8F-1_Standard_Aircraft_Characteristics.pdf says "combat" (WEP) power is 2750 bhp at the deck
really, those sites don't tell you what altitude and what power rating the horsepower rating is given at, which is why they're usually different.

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>>180874598
>>180875219
>>180875406

Why don't any of you burgers have User Manuals for your fav planes/tanks?

Then this would've been settled already

>mig faggot runs away for half an hour and loses by tickets anyway

>>180875785
funnily i have just found a pilot's manual for bearcat but it simply doesn't tell the power of its engine, at least i didn't find it

http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/usa/grumman/f-8fbearcat/an-01-85fd-1-pilots-handbook-for-navy-models-f8f-1-b-n-and-f8f-2-n-p-aircraft.html

>>180876229
>implying you dont deserve it for your sins of american attackers and british hunters

if i get g.91 i will have to fight burgers, right?

>>180875785
I have some saved to my computer, they don't say the specifics like what we're arguing about.

F8F-2 when?

what the fuck do I do if I'm basically a tanks only player and I keep getting bombed and strafed by fucking planes?

>>180878296
Welcome to the world of Hating American Attackers, heres your honorary remove picture.
>>180853001

>>180878296
help secure airsup by using an SPAAG or a fighter/fighter bomber

>>180878296
Have a SPAAG in your lineup. You don't have to take it out unless there's planes being assholes, and depending on your choice of vehicle you can get ones that can fuck up light armour too pretty nicely.

I wish I could just have a lineup of nothing but Hitlerbolts. This thing just blows everything else I can field in the same BR out of the water.

>>180879958
Gaijin shill please go

>>180878296
AAA or maybe don't fucking travel in the open

>>180880390
It's actually the first premium i've bought. And i'm sure as hell not buying the stupid shit like the Tiger II premium for nearly 40 britbong monies, fuck that shit holy fuck. But Hitlerbolt isn't that expensive and people kept saying it prints money. And yeah it's actually pretty fukken good as long as you use it properly so you can just keep sawing people in half without getting killed in return. Just did a stupid and stayed on a bomber's tail at low altitude, killed it but got stuck in a turnfight with a spaghetti with predictable results.

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>when your a second to late to save your teammate