Fighting Games General /fgg/

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Friendly reminder that the concurrent player count for SFV on Steam is inflated.

Friendly reminder that SFV and T7 are identically bad. Both have horrendous input lag, terrible online experience, a lack of character variety, and sparse on features. They even share artificial load times. If you promote either of these games you're a fighting game community killing scrub equal to a Smash kiddie.

Friendly reminder that if the your game doesn't have keepaway, it's not a game worth playing.

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Reminder that when evaluating if a game is good or bad all that really matters is if the characters faces look good.
And if you don't agree with this and instead consider silly things like game mechanics and stuff to be important then you are an obvious shill for disagreeing with the obvious truth of my enlightened mind.

>>180776901
friendly reminder that you should return to reddit

>>180776901
>inflated
what do you mean by that.

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>When you get 6-0'd and blame your loss on the fact that your opponent is using Zangief rather than the fact that you have 0 fundamentals

I'd like the Injustice series a lot better if NRS knew how to make attractive character models in any way, but goddamn does every single person in the series have a horseface

>>180777015
The number is bolstered by bots farming points

>>180776845
is a good game

why is reddit kappa so mad at capcom?

>>180777082
??
Farming for what?
How?

anyone wanna play t7? psn east. will settle for rev 2 or inj 2, but rusty af.

>>180776769
both great with a lot of overall similarities, but focus on different aspects of fundamentals.

>>180777060
they're all ugly as fuck, but whatevs, game is fun

>inb4 shill

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>>180777059
>fullscreen 5 frame unblockable
>talking about fundamentals
grappler scum

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>>180776901
>>180777082
Reminder to take your meds, my dude.

>>180777173
That is because the bracket gods smiled on him and he didn't run into any Guiles or Sims. If I recall correctly the only bad matchup he ran into was Punk's Nash and he only won that because Punk's Nash wasn't on the level of his Karin

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looking forward to my sinuses clearing out so I can smell things again

>>180777198
They farm fight money.

>>180777191
Capcom fucked up, but they just try too hard

>>180777476
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT VULVA

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>>180777347
Yes that's why you lost, not the fact that you had 0 footsies, 0 anti air, 0 meaties, 0 mixups, 0 idea how to use your character, and were extremely predictable. Talk when you make it out of bronze

>>180777643
I think posture is a massively larger issue there

Remember when Them's Fightin' Herds™ was supposed to come out soon

>>180777379
>he only won that because Punk's Nash wasn't on the level of his Karin
ummmm? fgg and kappa told me you can master any sfv character in an hour? explain why his nash isn't equally good then?

>>180777347

Fuck off, Doug

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>>180777476
what the hell is up with that picture

here's some better jack-o sniffs

so now that the dust has settled...

war or jive?

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>me creeping up to steal your girl

>jack-o
>jack-o-lantern
wtf I just got it

Ranked in Tekken is going to make me kill a family member out of pure rage

Once I hit green i'm never playing ranked again

>>180778010
>ywn sniffmolest rammy brown

>>180777969
overall I'd rather play 5 than go back to 4. I miss fireballs being good and a few characters like honda and adon but that's about it

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>>180777934
I need a version of this where her more to the center and the text removed


Also fuck captcha

>>180778010
are brown girls:

A) Best
B) A best

>>180778160
Fireballs are better in 5.

>>180777741
Its in closed beta right now.

>>180778010
costume covers her up too much. can barely get a whiff

>>180778160
I miss the spirit of 4. There was more madness and cancer but there were also a lot more tools to deal with trash characters like C Viper. This meant that most characters could be played in a very controlled, calculated way which is what I find most fun about street fighter games. I love guilty gear but you wouldn't really use the words controlled and calculated about it, it's just a different game. It's why it'll never fill that SF shaped hole for me.

>>180777015
He's Andrew Dobson

>>180778239
how so?

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//fgg/

Which of these players do you want to represent us?

>>180778058
Well at least the losing in is a lot of fun in T7 compared to SFV:
>u/f+4'ed to death by Kazuya
>Law spamming sweep into flip kick runs up does it again while I inspect the ground
>Claudio outzoning you with hopkicks, waking up with hopkicks, opening with hopkicks
>Bob looks like he is going for a low, oh, hit high
>Eddie spazzing out on the floor hitting you with lows that hit high and highs that hit mid and low all at the same time
>Yoshi bunny hopping with his sword on your face
>Paul fisting you
>trying to run away from pressure then realize every character is slower than a slug unless you master meme movement
I just love losing in T7, really enjoyable.

>>180778631
More damage, more pushback and most importantly no focus to deal with them. Characters have anti fireball tools but they can easily be baited and punished. Focus backdash midscreen can not be easily baited and punished.

Some people like to think (fireballs)
Some people like to just mash brainlessly(anime)

Sfv vs sf4 arguments are pointless everyone likes different shit

>>180778907
I fucking hate it and its going to make me kill myself

Once I hit the wall, which is 90% of matches because every single hit carries you from 1 end to the other, I might aswell drop the controller

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>>180778229
or

C) 世界の一番

>>180778943
>more pushback

You have never played SF4.

>>180778785
I've been here for years and never figured out what that was. That and the fightanvidya stuff

People that gravitate towards zoners usually do so because they have a poor understanding of neutral and they can get easy wins off of bad players from fireballs and uppercuts

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>>180778907
>Eddie spazzing out on the floor hitting you with lows that hit high and highs that hit mid and low all at the same time
That one move where he does a backflip by jumping 2 meters in the air but his feet make a full 360 and he ends up doing a low had me turn off the game after I lost to it.

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>>180778949
Is anime + fireballs the ultimate high IQ

>>180778943
>easily baited and punished
Like what? Most anti fireball tools are so generous that they can be done on reaction.

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Why aren't you playing Arms?

Let's say someone's goal is to git gud at fighting games.

Would it be better for them to pick one game and stick with it until they get great at it, or pick a couple games learn them all?

>>180779280
And people who gravitate towards rush down usually do so because they have a poor understanding of space control and they can get easy wins off bad players who don't know their defensive options and fold under pressure.

lord brady had the best theory in that you should look for characters who cover your weaknesses as a player, and then try to maximize the character. going out of your archetype comfort zone helps you overall as a player and is highly suggested, but doing what gets you results tends to be more "fun," which will in turn lead you to learn and understand what it is that got you the results.

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>>180779726
I'm a grown man who plays on Sony Entertainment systems not Nintendo manchild systems

>>180778943
>Focus backdash midscreen can not be easily baited and punished.
yeah but it builds grey life

>>180779814
If you are just starting it's better to pick one game (and one character) and stick with it. After you start getting some confidence, branching out to other characters and other games can actually help you improve a lot, but at least at first you should concentrate on only one thing.

You're a tryhard, mattfew

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>>180776859
play footsies

>>180779915
>poor understanding of space control
Hardly. To rush down effectively you need to bypass neutral and get in their face. Getting in their face requires you know how to counter the buttons/movement they use to defend themselves, which requires proper understanding of space control.

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what are some good picks if I'm trying to make a spidey team

>>180779814
Focus on one game but it's fine to play multiple. If your brain can't handle multiple then go back to just one until you get a handle of how to play fightan.

>>180780220
The only games with space control are 3D fighters

Is Koihime a good fighting game?

>>180780247
Spiderman

>>180779640
Nash's, Ryu's, Bison's parries, Juri's flip kick, Zangief's headbutt, etc.

The only one i can think of which doesn't fit this criteria are Alex's ex elbow or headstomp. Even then it's obvious when they're going to do it as they have to downback for a year or whiff normals to hide the charge so you can play off of that

>>180780348
none of those are punishable except juri kick and Ryu parry at certain distances.

>cant whiff punish in sfv

exactly

https://twitter.com/HiFightTH/status/879128072066183168

>>180780290
What did he mean by this

>>180778430
That sounds like someone going from AC to Xrd

>>180779814
I'd pick a single game. The better you understand that game, the more you can explore the more advanced stuff. If you are consistently alternating between games, sure your execution will most likely improve, but you will still probably be ass in your approach in actual matches. Don't feel locked into one game, but focus on getting past the basics in a least one.

>>180777198
You leave a controller on turbo so it mashes light kick.

I miss the spirit of +R. There was more madness and cancer but there were also a lot more tools to deal with trash characters like Zappa. This meant that most characters could be played in a very fun, freestyle jazz type of way which is what I find most fun about Guilty Gear games. I love street fighter but you wouldn't really use the words fun and freestye, it's just a different game. It's why it'll never fill that GG shaped hole for me.

>>180780475
crouch mk never got whiff punished on reaction once in those gifs lol
it is just a counter poke anticipating it

>>180780473
>certain distances
That's the point. You have to space yourself to bait their reactive fireball counter. You can't punish them at full screen, but if you are close enough you can throw different speed fireballs to catch the parries or in Gief's case whiff punish his headbutt.

Why do people jump and do an attack without even hitting anything in anime games? For example, in Xrd I see Sols do jump H and in Persona I see people do something like jump A or B a lot and miss on purpose.

Is it a timing thing? Is it just to keep their hands busy?

>>180780768
>I miss the spirit of +R
>trash characters like Zappa
Uh are we talking about the same +R
Wait this is a pasta isn't it

>>180781163
Preemptive space control would be my guess. They are predicting the opponent will move into the attack. Similar thing happens in kof

stop calling her rammy brown you fucking faggots

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>>180781163
because stay out of my face, bitch

>>180779726

Because it's ass

Doesn't matter if it's a legit fighter if it's still kusoge

>>180781209
I thought by trash he meant annoying and Zappa is annoying

>>180781163
I don't know. Maybe that moves stops their momentum, makes them fall faster, or they are just predicting a poke of some sort and do it to cover themselves.

New MvCI trailer!

https://youtu.be/f_VmGBNoeCY

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>tfw goober got me into metal

>>180781163
If you mean like neutral jump + button, that's space control.

>>180781767
neat
>>180781530
dead meme

>>180781163
I've never seen either of those but guessing the Sol j.h is because it's two hits. You sure it's not j.d?

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Post best tyrant

Please post best tyrant I have zero images of him

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It's almost here

ARE YOU READY FOR BEST GIRL TO GET HER BEST COSTUME?

So I've always played SF on a keyboard, using WASD for movement and UIO + JKL for buttons.
I feel comfortable with it obviously but I want to learn another controller because I'd like to go to a local some day, and I can't go with a fucking keyboard.

I know hitbox exists, but how hard would movement be to learn with the stick vs buttons?

>>180782152
The transition to hitbox would take you a week or two tops. Stick transition would take a month or two. I personally have more fun using stick.

SFV anyone?

CFN is carljohnson

>>180782287
Why the fuck do people ask for games without saying region

>>180782276
What I don't like about hitbox is that the up/jump button is all the way at the bottom.

I'd probably already have a hitbox if the movement keys were set up like WASD.

>>180779280
A good fireball is a great poke, numbnuts

>biker shorts

>>180777060
Not really

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Would you recommend Mika for beginners

>>180782465
How does that contradict anything I said, numbnuts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ead1OpuFi9g

KI patch notes

Man Susanoo feels like a mistake.
You have to work hard to actually become a good character except you don't actually become a good character after all that hard work.
At that point why not just pick a good character? Or a least a consistent one.

>>180781163
Anime players don't play reactively they play proactively. They're doing the move even though you're nowhere near them because in anime you can ignore your opponent completely and just mash away. It's for space control and due to the dash and mash nature of anime, it's conditioned them to have these habits. It's cool honestly, you can spot an anime player a mile away in some fighting games

>>180782385
Just get one and fucking learn it. It'll take you like a week to switch at most.

>>180782603
Because people who have a good understanding of neutral like good fireballs

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what were they thinking

>>180782612
Who. The. Fuck. Cares?

that's not /fgog/

>>180782612
Little late there boyo

>>180782576
No she is to sexy. You wont be able to focus cuz ur dick will be hard

>>180782890
Rather, a fireball is a full screen poke without a hurtbox which means it can only be directly countered in a very few specific, usually risky ways. Fireballs simplify neutral because of how much space they control and how much of the opponent's options they reduce, which is why bad players love zoners.

>>180783037
they werent

>>180780791
the point is you cant do it AT ALL in sfv prediction or not because of 6.5 frames of lag you retard

>>180783124
I would like you to prove what you're saying is true to the best of your ability. Put your money where your mouth is and see me in ST.

>>180783037
they did not add moustache for ryu.

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THE ONLY REASON TO GO TO EVO
https://twitter.com/fubarduck/status/878786367064489984

>24% winrate in Tekken

Im a lost cause

>>180783307
You just proved my point. In ST fireballs are particularly braindead because characters have even harder to use/shittier anti fireball tools and fireballs do retarded damage, chip, and pushback in that game. Hell Ryu even had a meterless fireball that knocked down. He has never had one since due to it being so dumb. Why play a character like Cammy who needs to actually space herself, choose the right normal, and react to punish certain tactics like scissors kicks, headbutts, and normals when you can just pick Ryu and throw a fireball to beat all of that shit?

I'm thinking of getting into fighting games, starting with SFV. How is the multiplayer for people who are new to the genre?

>>180783645
This convo is over

>>180783645
ST is a kusoge and comparing cammy to ryu is dumb

>>180783679
dont play sfv

its literally braindead and busted and will teach you terrible habits

i suggest tekken, kof, ki, or even gg

all those games still have tons of players willing to help you out

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>>180782058
>>180782058
Oh, wow, those shoes are absolutely fabalus. So much want weeee.

>>180783645
I see u dodging a nigga

>>180783679
On PC by the way.

>>180783645
I'll play cammy and you can be ryu ken akuma sagat, anyone with a fireball. Fc is dougfunnie

>>180783734
Yeah he won it hard.

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>>180781338
Remember when this triggered people

Why did no one tell me bedman was fun? This is great!

>>180783645
What a huge bitch ass dodge

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>Beating a twitch shitter who teabags and teabagging him back

Sorry for blog but goddamn is that a good feeling.

>>180783042
Stop writing like a fag

>>180783790
This applies to anyone with a fireball. Fireballs beat EVERYTHING besides jumping or anti fireball moves. Against characters with poor anti fireball tools you could literally cover all of your opponent's options with just fireball and uppercut.

A neutral game where the only decisions you have to make are:
1.Fireball
2.Uppercut

is objectively much simpler than a neutral game consisting of:
1. Walk forward to force out a button
2. Wait at a specific distance and punish a specific button with your own specific button at a specific timing
3. Walk backward to make a button whiff aiding in 2
4. Jump over the button
5. Walk forward and hit a button using 2
6. Walk at your opponent and throw him because you predict he won't press a button because you did 2 a bunch of times, etc.

Good players do all of this shit with their fireball characters as well. But most players aren't good players. Most people start off with Ryu because you can literally win with only fireball, uppercut, and good reads.

alex nostalgia costume when

>>180784128
what makes this fair?

everyone wants defensive options in sfv, do they mean burst/combo breaker?

>>180781163
people just jump with sol j.h because it has literally 0 recovery (yes, literally) it has really good hit/hurtboxes and it doubles at airthrow option select so when sol wants to control air he can just do jump forward j.6h and decide what to do after it recovers. this is all obviously dependant on character, some characters have whiff cancelable j.p so they use that instead etc.

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>when they make you unleash your full power
he wasn't ready for my chun

>>180784549
no we mean invincible backdashes and invincible reversals that dont cost meter

it's so fucking retarded than your only defensive options on wakeup are reversal and backdash, both of which can and will be crush countered often.

>>180784463
Lmao dis nigga still here posting instead of fighten.

>>180784567
If it has literally 0 recovery, how do you beat it?

>>180784549
Not necessarily, in fact I think a lot of folks would dislike that in particular

It's more stuff like invincible backdashes and shit

>>180784463
Fireballs have recovery dude.

This is your brain on anime

>>180784536
It's -31

https://twitter.com/KillrMillerTime/status/879091226393235456

>>180784772
You can punish fireballs in anime games though, even on reaction.

>>180784549
Make 2 v-reversals, one thats f.kkk and other thats f.ppp, one pushes the opponent away, the other puts you on the other side and give the first one the habbility to beat tick throws

>>180784706
you hit it during startup or you don't challenge it at all. sol is the king of air control in xrd because his air normals are amazing and he has a divekick that stalls his air momentum on top of that. the move's not that good as a jumpin though so best bet is to usually just stay on ground and anti air. again this is all character specific, some characters can challenge sol in air like millia for example but others should primarily use their anti airs or movement instead.

>>180784772
Hmm and how do you punish that recovery? Do you walk right through the fireball because you defy 2D fighting game logic? OR Do you jump to punish that recovery? But wait a minute, if they jump can't you uppercut them?

Hence,
fireball
uppercut

covering all of your opponent's options and simplifying the game state. This is why fireballs are good tools in 2D fighters

Unlike you I at least have a brain.

UNIEL anyone? West coast PC I just started yesterday.

>>180784681
i would give backdash no ch state

I hate dodgers so much

>>180785069
In street fighter the most basic thing you should learn is predicting a fireball and punishing.
>>180785108
I'll play, make a room I just got the game too

>>180784549
Give every character a bus ticket, once used, the character instantly takes a bus and moves to another stage and the game ends.

>>180784924
oh god

>>180784924
Cringe.

>>180784549
Here are defensive options that SFV would greatly benefit from:

- Longer reaching normals
- Nerf almost every single normal that can currently mash onto itself
- Buff walkspeeds on a bunch of characters
- Bring back crouch tech

>>180785183
You fucking dunce. I'm not saying fireballs are overpowered or unpunishable. I'm saying you can literally have a whole neutral game with just fireballs and uppercuts because they cover every single option your opponent can do not counting weird character specific anti fireball moves. A neutral game consisting of just fireballs and uppercuts is SIMPLE. This is my argument. I'm not saying it's amazing or effective. I am saying it's simple and theoretically possible.

>>180784924
I saw the sword and stopped watching.
What have people been saying about her?

>>180785183
Made, room is just called wc

>>180783540
That's not bad if you've never played Tekken before. Don't get down on yourself.

>>180785418
-airdash

>>180784924
I've played MillerTime in tournament. Her Mika is fucking terrible.

>>180785418
-universal air throw
-universal air block
-remove crush counter
-reduce stun buildup
-backdash
-focus attack-like metered move that has different properties than fa
-non-retarded frame data

What if I like alex and gief not for their command throws but their powerful long range moves.

>>180784924
Fuck yeah, girls should know their place in 2d. Takaunakua making men look pathetic in kusoge Tekken.

>>180785930
Play who you want dude. The only people complaining about Gief are bronze Kolin players with 0 fundamentals

>>180785923
-vtrigger is now v ism from sfa3
-guard crush
-actual unblockables

>>180784479
April

>>180785418
Crouch tech had to die

why dont they just add parry to sfv

>>180785418
>>180785923
thank god kappa fags like this arent in charge of the game

>>180785923
>>180785418

Are you all 09'ers or something? It's kind obvious you are.

I love kappa fags

>>180784549
People want something, anything. Invincible reversals cost a third of your super meter, and if you guess wrong you eat a full crush counter combo. V-reversals barely do anything, and they lose to throws. Backdashes are worthless outside of neutral. Even normals lose to throws.
SFV is more offense-based than even the most unga anime game.

>>180785458
>bretty gud for a grill

>>180784549
Make backdash invincibility longer and make it so you can't crush counter it

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>>180786160
if they made SFV like third strike with parries and hopping would it be popular?

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>>180786446
>mashing reversal gets you punished

Yea, what's wrong with that?

Is the Hori Mini Fight stick an ok stick for someone who isn't sure they'll love a fight stick?

>>180786446
>watch CEO top 8
>every game is people playing neutral/footsies
Yeah, totally.

>>180786027
Her fundamentals are pretty lulzy when they are so stubby. Like Juri for example has too much push back on her shit so a lit of stuff may risk a whiff.

>>180779726
Because it's even less of a fighting game than Smash is?

>how do give sfv more deffensive options guys?
>LITERALLY TURN IT INTO SFIV

>>180779726
I am palying it though.

>>180776859
Reminder if you see anyone complaining about functions then it's just someone from /r/kappa shitposting and should be ignored inmediately.

Who should I main in Third Strike?

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>>180786758
It's clear that people have literally no idea what they even want.

And thanks to the admittedly shoddy launch that Capcom handled, these people are blaming all their own problems on the game.

The fact that age wise, we're at a pivotal turning point where some of 09'ers favorite players are getting old and not performing as well only serve to add more bad press for SFV

Why the fuck are people complaining about defensive options? There are enough considering a knockdown with a setup is hard enough to get already

You have blocking, teching, delayed teching, quick getup, back getup, regular get up, backdash (no it isn't useless, any frame trap that has a 4 frame gap or more puts you in an air reset and gives you a potential punish), pressing a button, meterless reversals (light dps have quick startup and are now throw invincible to boot!), ex reversals,jumping backwards, and v-reversals.

You have plenty of defensive options in this game and this isn't sf4 where you could be vortexed by an Akuma and lose.

GIT GUD

>>180786584
It's rather bad. Get a drone if you can

>>180787015
The Qanba Drone?

>>180786563
Turd Strike was never popular, it's a meme game. It's influence is the reason SFV sucks to begin with.

>>180787093
Yeah.

Footsies and honest neutral is a meme and isn't in any fighting game. Almost every fighting game rewards offensive rushdown and that is even more true in today's market.

Also no game has true defensive options because none of them have a end all be all option that covers everything, which is just bad game design.

>>180787310
see my kazuya

>>180786919
Twelve

>>180787351
3D "fighters" aren't fighting games and are even more casual than smash. Fuck off.

>>180787310
Are you retarded? Of course there is no "end all be all cover everything" option. The point of fighting games is that if you can predict your opponent will do X, you can counter with Y. Jesus Christ this general is so bad.

>>180786758
>game is now SFIV again
>this game is so slow
>everyone is turtling
>all these fucking option selects
>how do I open him up
>yo dawg I got this OS for this OS in case that OS gets OS use this OS except when that one OS hits you no OS for that yet

>>180786989
>backdash (no it isn't useless, any frame trap that has a 4 frame gap or more puts you in an air reset and gives you a potential punish)

Crush'd

>>180787519
You just prove my point. You can never truly be defensive in any fighting game because there are too many variables. So offense becomes the best option in every fighter.

I love these fucking losers that cry about gief when literally all you have to do is just run away the entire match and poke him to death.

You have to be a fucking brain dead zero IQ scrub to lose to a gief. If you ever let gief get in range to throw you you deserve to lose.

>>180787632
>runaway
>in SFV where corners are literally less than one in apart
>you can't jump because gief has braindead aa
>so you're stuck in corner vortex and oki the entire match
>literally a coin flip

Y-yeah man gief is an honest character

>>180776859
They are all the same woman looks wise.

>>180787802
So explain why there is 2 relevant gief players in the entire world?

>people are actually going to drop 90$ on launch for MvCI and then 30$ the next year for the other season pass

why would you do this to yourself

I swear to god you are all silver players.

>>180787575
If they predict your backdash with a crush counter normal, you could have pressed a 3 or 4 frame button to interrupt it since crush counter buttons are slow.

>>180787628
Tekken. Your idea of defense seems to be down-back midscreen with sf4 bison and throw out scissors because I can beat bad players easily. You are the type of player I'm referring to when I say bad players gravitate towards zoners.

>>180787802
I can beat Gief in the neutral with Laura using anti airs and normals, not a single Laura meme required. You really need to git gud.

What is OS?

>>180788032
What happens if they space the cc button well?

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>watch MVC
>cant tell whats going on
>watch animu games
>cant tell whats going on
>watch tekken
>bored to death from how slow characters move

Why is the SF the only series that lands in a good middle ground between chaos and realism? Why dont other games try that?

>>180787989
But it's okay when arcsys vomits 2 characters and calls it a new game?

>>180787960
Because people don't always pick the strongest character in the game?

>>180788187
post cfn

>>180787989
because the fgc is capcom's battered wife
and they keep going back because capcom keeps promising it'll be different next time
and then it never fucking is

>>180788201
operating system

>>180788032
Tekken barely counts as a fighter but the game is still just about offense. Offensive pokes, dumb strings, easy launchers, etc. Tekken is braindead offense through and through. You only need a cursory awareness of whiff punishing to be a good player in it.

>>180788447
>when saint admitted kekkenfags can't even AA

>>180787223
SFV is nothing like 3S which is why it's fucking ASS.

>>180788241
no not really but at least you usually can get all the stuff for free

Its bad but that doesn't justify doing it even worse

>>180787802
If you're stuck in the corner that is because you are a fucking idiot with no footsies who just holds back all day instead of holding their ground and counter poking.

GET
GOOD

>>180788217
Spacing doesn't apply since we are talking about the close range game. That is, unless they walk back and hard punch or something during a string. However if they decided to do so and you predicted it you could have hit him low as he was walking back or you could have walked back yourself to avoid the situation or you could have crouch blocked or you could have jumped away or you could have literally done anything but braindead mash jab at the same spot during pressure every single time.

>>180788237
King of Fighters, Virtua Fighter?

>>180788237
Thats how I feel too. Classic SF is the perfect fighting game with just the right amount of balance between craziness and honesty/neutral.

>>180788447
>Tekken barely counts as a fighter

why are people still responding to this obvious bait

>tfw i have rage quit probably 15 times and still have the handshake symbol next to my name

lmfao

>>180788618
>no footsies
if you don't have a fireball gief is literally a 10-0 MU in gief's favor and even then gief has the strongest anti fireball options in the game

I know you're a grappler main and you want to push the narrative that gief is hard to play and that you're life is hard (grappler mains are a lot like modern women) but you need to face reality that gief is one of the dumbest characters in the game and is totally dishonest and anti-street fighter

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What will kappa do when Tekken gets lower viewers than NRS games at EVO?

>>180788925
people asleep at the computer desk don't count as viewers

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>>180788862
>this entire post
thanks for obliterating my sides you total shitter.

>>180788862
I think you're a shitter who's terrible at the game. We can settle this right now with a ft5. Post your CFN.

>>180789045
>>180788862

Can I come and watch.

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>>180788862
>anti-street fighter
>an archetype that has existed since its inception
There hasnt been a single SF game where a grappler dominated the game. They ARE weak.

>>180789045
ok

cfn:neogafsucks

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>>180787989
>xrd was played in 2015/2016
>sfv was left behind
>kof was always dead
>tekken is fun but will be left behind in 3 months

mvci is more fun than sfv

>>180789171
o fuk

stream where

>>180788925
they will say "just wait for dbzf"

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>>180787361
Thanks! He looks pretty interesting.

>>180789094
idk about dominated, but wasn't gief top in sirlins abortion?

>>180789171
Invited.

>>180788925
Do they have televised tekken tourneys in gook land or is it only for Starcraft?

anyone playing jive?

I can set up a lobby stream if anyone wants

>>180789560
Why dont you niggers never do this earlier in the day ;_;

GGs orie Glad I was at least able to take a round or two

>>180787989

I just want an alive game to play in my country (Australia) that isnt jive or tekken.

>>180789702

Tekken wont be alive for long.

what songs are worth buying in rev2?

>>180789702
learn to love dedgames

>>180789878
All of them, just use cheat engine and give your self a billion fish, so you always get new shit and unlock everything by fishing for 30 minutes.

>>180789094
Zangief was top tier in Alpha 3.

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Who are some of the easier characters for a beginner to get started with, besides Ryu/Ken?

>>180789878
Break a spell
Divide my heart
Diva

t. patrician taste

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>>180788706
>Classic SF is the perfect fighting game with just the right amount of balance between craziness and honesty/neutral.

No it isn't

>>180783303
what did he mean by this

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>>180789171
>>180789509

So did you two fags play?

>>180789694
GGs I got lucky you played akatsuki since that is who my friend was using against me when we both picked up the game like a day ago. So I had a good feeling on what was safe/unsafe for that guy.

>>180790298

5-0
He got 0 rounds in. Completely free.

neogaf really does suck. I will upload a video

>>180790298
New Dynasty Warriors fighting game when?

who wants to buy me a ps4 so I can play fightan

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>>180790579
But who was arguing for what again? Something about gief and grapplers?

>>180790749
sent :)

Can anyone pls teach me to be good in sfv

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I want /fgg/ to listen up. I maybe be a shitter and a silver Ryu. I might be ahead of my time on my ideas on SF and you can call me crazy or a shitposter. But the one thing you can't call me is a dodger.

Fuck Zangief.

>>180789878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9X1Ta1jN8E

>>180789878
Heavy Day
Venom's and Slayer's themes from XX that I can't remember the names of.

>>180790727
Koihime enbu

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>>180790886
then you're already better than 99% of /fgg/ lad

>>180790803
He said grapplers were braindead for some stupid silver shitter reasons. I said he wrong and a stupid silver shitter. I said I would prove this in a ft5. Turns out he's wrong and a stupid silver shitter who couldn't even get a single round off of me. As expected all he did was walk himself to the corner and throw fireball almost never poking to stop me from moving. Once near the corner he would attempt a cross up and while some were successful because of the lag ultimately his occasional lucky jump in wasn't enough to win.

>>180790886
I respect you for not dodging unlike 99% of this general. You're still shit though.

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>>180790886

>>180791000
Slayer's is Haven't You Got Eyes In Your Head, I think.

>>180791036
I want the Dynasty Warriors models and graphics though.

>>180791074
>>180790886


Doesnt the fact that the grapler won prove that graplers are braindead

Or at least it shouldnt prove the opposite, right

>tfw SFV is the first fighting game I invested time into learning
>tfw I main zangief
>tfw I use a keyboard
>tfw literally zero of the things I've spent the last 400 hours learning translate to any other character or game and I still have no fundamentals at all

Feels bad bros. The only other character I feel ok with is Akuma in 3S but he feels way different and worse in V.

>>180791241
I won because I had better fundamentals. Ironically I didn't win because I knocked him down once and put him in braindead coinflip 50/50 guessing games or whatever the kids call it nowadays

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>go to locals and this sits down next to you
>"ft10 me in SFV you pussy bitch"

what do?

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>>180791241
Grapplers (especially zangief, only honest grapplers are Hugo from 3S and Xrd Potemkin) are dumb but they might be beatable if I guess right more. It's funny that he is gonna post the matches on YouTube. I'll study them and in the end he'll only be a stepping stone for me getting better at SFV.

>>180791605

What character did she play anyway?

>>180791642
That's a good attitude to have to be honest, just drop the salty baby thing and you're on your way to actually becoming a better player.

t. different guy

>>180791740
Ibuki I think

>>180791460
gief take fundamentals

>>180791605
tell her i will once she switches from her broken god tier ibuki coinflip machine and plays a real character

>>180791784

I thought Ibuki was hard to play. How does a teen girl play her and win a small local.

I'd imagine the people that go to those things at least hve some confidence

>>180791642
watching your replays is a great attitude to have, but it's clear that you really don't know even to have conversations about honesty in fighting games. Gief, like literally every character in the game, can only work under certain conditions. If you let yourself get within range of an spd, you deserve to it eat. If you get knocked down, you have to deal with the mix up. Maybe it's a grab or a meaty, but the same is true for EVERY character who knocks you down.

If grapplers were truly easier to use than any other character, you'd see nothing but grapplers in the top 8 of every tournament. They take a tremendous amount of patience and a fundamental understanding of spacing and footsies

>>180791460
>grappler on a keyboard

HOW

i can never do it on fightcade when i play Gief in stuff like MvC1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJAF1_QrkW4
Here is the beatdown for all of you fine folks to see.

>>180791829
Hot really. I have a HP that has armor, nobody else has that.
I have a god like AA jab so I can't AA properly as any other character.'

I'm literally a fraud that hit platinum off gimmicks.

>>180792112

>Muh strong gief fundamentals
>still gold

lol why did you even post this?

>>180792126
that Hp is the easiest button to whiff punish in the game

>3 day ban for rage quitting a casual match
wtf capcom fuck you

>>180791829
Not SFV gief.

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>>180792367
I don't play much ranked. No point.

>>180792456
why did you ragequit a casual match?

Rynge could be the next ultradavid if he just shaved his face desu

>finally get around to playing injustice
>it's another "enemy is either an input-reading god or a complete punching bag" game

billy deserved what he got

>>180792367
Rank doesn't mean shit if you don't play it
I've had auto matchup in training mode all weekend and I jump up over a thousand points between practicing setups

>>180792112
>canadian player
>b-boy ryu

Deserved the loss desu

>>180792714


yeah you are probably actually a master rank but you don't play ranked unfortunately

>>180791829
No since his Alpha days.

>>180792887
I guess I wouldn't know lol
but I'm more than happy to stream a ft5 if you want guy, I got 45 minutes until D&D

>>180792607
Streaking through baddies is not exatly an achievement.
Not that I'd want to encourage someone to play ranked in this game though.

>>180792985
>D&D
Never played, I wanna come :(

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>>180792887
>tfw truly a warlord but stuck in silver because i just don't like ranked

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>a 15 year old girl probably plays Ibuki better than me

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

>>180791642
you know that season 2.5 light dps are a wakeup tool against grabs

Which game do you need better fundamentals to be good at, SFV or VSav?

>>180793040
>VD
I guarantee she has better taste in entertainment as well

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>>180793030
my buddies and I have been playing on roll20 lately since half of us live in Reno and the other half in Vegas

at first I thought it wouldn't be as good as hosting live games, but as someone who's DM'd for the better part of a decade, I'll tell you that it's awesome

you should look into it, I think they have like a gamefinding system, also /tg/ is like the best board, it's the only reason I even come to 4chan besides looking for games here

>this gief vs ryu thing is 11 minutes

I dont wanna watch whole thing

>>180793146
>getting triggered over one show someone watched

>>180792112
Here is everything wrong with gief

Constant vortex and 50/50s seriously aa st.Jab is a 50/50 any wake up where he can headbutt is a 50/50

It's terrible only thing I could think to do more is guessing right and maybe v reversal since ryu's v trigger sucks also work on hitconfirms

>>180793263
What you aren't getting is that a good player prevents gief from ever EVER getting in those 50/50 situations in the first place.

A 50/50 guess is the REWARD for a Gief getting in.

>>180787632
ye rb and nemo are some of the dumbest motherfuckers around

>>180793238
>one show
The kind of retard that watched VD watches every other titty bait trash anime every season.

Is it true that Punk used to playblue?

>>180793263
I've never heard anyone complain about Gief's s.lp. Crouching sure, but this is new.

Is Punk the Kuroda of SFV?

gief is completely broken in sf5. you beat gief by slowly whittling down his health by carefully poking him and anti airing him when he jumps. all of this does pitiful damage but it adds up over time. gief wins off one good jump in or EX spd. good design.

>>180793391
Nemo doesnt cry about Gief. Nemo juts doesnt like Gief matchups because Gief matchups are fucking boring.

>>180793410
Nah, I only watched VD for the yuri.

>>180793263
>Walks himself to the corner, jumps and gets anti aired, gets dash attempts stopped, throws bad fireballs when gief has v trigger, never goes for mixups after succesful anti air
>"Hurr the only thing I did was guess wrong"

Hopeless.

who is IPWCoopa

>>180790103
cammy, necalli, balrog

>>180793132
SFV

>>180778010
>walking on her tip-toes

literally autism

>>180793132
Vampire Savior and it's not even close

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>>180793263
buddy every wake up is a 50/50. If you don't use an invincible reversal, a standard grab will meaty you the same as SPD.

Having watched those matches, you need to seriously learn more about your character's normals. You like never through any pokes out except for fireball

Here's what you can do to avoid getting into those situations you don't like:

>Don't jump at him
>Work on your neutral game
if someone is constantly anti-airing you successfully, it's time to stop jumping and think about your approach. It's clear that you're uncomfortable with the neutral game, so you really need to work on your approach from the ground. Ra is right about you walking yourself into a corner, it's a really bad habit.

You definitely have the stuff to improve, but you have to get rid of this mentality that "x thing is unfair" or "y thing is braindead", because the moment you do that, on some level you've decided that you don't need to figure out a way to counter this thing, because it's too good anyway.

Everything in the game has an answer. You need to be willing to find it, and drop this idea that some things are unbeatable, because they aren't.

>>180793547
what constitutes as crying, nemo acknowledges gief as being top3 while you are here calling people shitters for thinking he's strong

what is wrong with you

>>180792112
Actually pretty glad /fgg/ doesn't do vids liek these anymore.

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>>180793506

well, it's either that or he's completely useless because he doesn't automatically win when he finally gets in.

it's really just a bad character concept. but SF will never be rid of him because he's too iconic.

>>180793778
Retard detected

VSav is not about fundamentals at all
Its about execution

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>>180793410
>titty bait trash anime
I bet you don't even respect cross ange as the masterpiece it is

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>>180793795
>You like never through any pokes out except for fireball
It's almost like what that anon said about shitters gravitating towards zoners because they can beat bad players with fireballs and uppercuts is true and there is now video evidence to back that up!

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REMOVE GIEF

He slows the game down and is unfun to watch. Completely toxic character

Buy Mika's costume and support more characters like Mika!

>>180793897
VSav execution isn't even hard outside of a few characters

>decide you sort of want to pick up a new character
>go online and get bodied in all of your matches so far
That's kind of discouraging, not gonna lie.

>>180783037
I unironically love B-Girl Chun-Li. It's one of the costumes that I use.

>>180794005
>yuru yuri
Stop posting this shit

>>180788237
KoF or NRS games?

>>180794016
so this is the generation of fighting game players sf5 bred huh

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>>180794020

I unironically approve of this sentiment.

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Is Daigo and Infiltration going to make it to Capcom Cup this year?

We're only half way through and neither have made a solid showing at tourneys.

Show me the best UNIEL set ever played, I'm sort of interested.

>>180783037
BBoy Ryu is the best costume in the game.

>>180793795
Honestly you're right. I still think sfv grapplers are bad design but sf games have long patch life's so it'll probably get fixed. You can really only go so far by blaming game design in fighting games. It's something I've been learning as I tend to understand them quickly but I plataeu as a player.

>>180794016
I'm telling you man lol.

>>180789878
Everything but Birthday Train. It's a great song by itself but it's the most unhype sone for a fight.

>>180788237
Man, I wish I could get good at Mahvel but I'm still trying to learn SFV.

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yuru yuri toppest footsies dyke fighting game when??

>>180794170
I want to suck Mika's toes there. Source? Is this from the Udon comic?

>>180792607

You were that dude who was talking all that shit earlier today, claiming that you soundly beat everyone here lmao.

>>180794480
The artist is on the picture you disgusting footfag

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>>180794395
ssssssnnnnniiiiiiifffffffff

>>180794541
I have soundly beat everyone from here I have faced, this is true.

>>180794170
gief head is scary

>>180791934
kids brains arent set, shes old enough to have hand eye but her brain is still malleable enough to for muscle memory to develop is a short time

either that are they pull the smash 4 video trick where they were using a wireless controller and had a pro in the back that made all the feminists mad

>>180794276
Your mindset is your biggest obstacle right now. You're so close to getting it, but it's hard as a human being to see those things in your way and find a rationale way around them. It's very easy to blame the game or the mechanics, but it's not like you literally cannot do it.

You did the right thing by standing your ground and fighting Ra, and it's good that you're thinking about your replays, just keep on that path, realize that improving is really the whole point of the game, and in those moments when you're low, and you feel like you've plateaued, evaluating yourself, and not the game, is usually the next step

>>180792607

Is this a smurf account. You basically played nothing but Gief in Ranked and almost nothing else it looks like