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Waiting for the inevitable maintenance extension edition.

Relaunch of The Secret World as Secret World Legends, free to play version of the game where all the story content is rolled into the game for free.

>https://secretworldlegends.com/

All of the chapters in the ARG are now unlocked.

>kissoftherevenant.com

Lets all be civil and keep the Kirsten Geary posting to a minimum. Thanks.
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1st for ensipid
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>>180759809
Who is Kirsten Geary?I started playing the game yesterday so can anyone fill me in?
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>>180760064
Illuminati handler
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Btw this general will die in about 20 minutes when the servers come back online.
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>>180760217
Is she a slut?
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>>180760273
>when the servers come back online
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>>180760273
>in about 20 minutes when the servers come back online
I hope you're right but I wouldn't surprised if
>June 25 Downtime: Extended to ∞ EDT (self.SecretWorldLegends)
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Are you ready for the full server wipe?
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>>180760402
Yes, you can tell by her attitude she loves the cock
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>Extended downtime, ETA 20:00 EDT
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>>180760456
NO!
>>180760589
Illuminati's introduction was so cringe and dragons was so tumblr that i had to go with the templar.
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>>180760726
I hope you're joking.
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>>180760524
Lucky me I played only like 10 hours yesterday.
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>>180760841
I still miss those kittens. ;__;
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>>180760845
He's joking but still made me start up the client.exe.>>180760524
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>>180759809
I'm looking for an MMO to play, is this game fun?
The setting isn't my thing but all I really care about is gameplay.
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Name your current weapon loadout.
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>>180760524
I am almost out of the first area.
I guess if they wipe i'll go with illuminati so i can have the slut as my boss.
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>>180761023
>The setting isn't my thing but all I really care about is gameplay
Boy, you are in for disappointments. This game is all setting, all quests, all atmosphere. Combat is now good, and originally the community is very mature, after tomorrow, probably not so much. But this is not the game to go for purely for gameplay.
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2 fucking more hours
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>>180761106
Pistols with shotgun used only for healing. Much pewpews, seemingly good DPS.
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>tfw you remembered about it 7 hours ago and couldn't even download the game or link your account
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>>180761023
The strongest part of SWL is the setting and the atmosphere, so I'm not going to lie; if you are not into the setting, you won't enjoy the gameplay either.

>>180761106
Gunslinger. Thinking of switching the shotgun for some melee weapon maybe.
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>>180761106
I haven't even started playing yet.
Game went down right as I quit earlier after changing options before starting to play. Th-thanks Funcom.
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>>180761023
>The setting isn't my thing but all I really care about is gameplay.
The puzzle gameplay is pretty good but the combat is only ok.If you are not interested in the world this is not a game for you and you are an idiot.When it comes to world building this is one of the best MMOs for it.
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>>180761275
>one of the best MMOs for it
If not THE best, even.
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>>180761114
>>180760589
>illuminati get slut as boss
>dragon get blowjobs
Do faggots get anything at all?
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>>180761213
https://twitter.com/FuncomHelp/status/879079448045375490
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>>180761106
It was called punisher if i remember correctly.
Shotgun+Hammer...but i mostly use the shotgun.I am waiting to get some of the good hammer skills.
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>>180761336
No, they're a virgin-only monastic order. You don't actually become a wizard at 30, the templars invite you in.
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>>180761336
Temps get Sonnac, but he wont give you the bbc
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>>180761447
kek
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>>180761408
Basically, Illuminati is /b/, Dragon is /x/, and Templars are /pol/.
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>>180761106
Pistols/Blood here mango. Blood for healing/shields focus with some single target in it, pistols for party is getting crazy times.
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>>180761384
>Funcom defence force praising devs in English.
>>Sans déconner allez vous faire foutre.
>>fpd serieux
lmao French people.
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>>180761563
More like:
Dragon is /b/
Illuminati is /x/
Templars are /v/
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>>180761336
a puppet show and the best city as headquarters
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https://twitter.com/SecretWorldLgds/status/879079982080946176
It's ragnarok maintenances all over again
I'm having flashbacks
My PTSD is being triggered
The game I bought still isn't on my steam account.
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>>180761384
>"I apologize for how toxic some of the community is with the maintenance. Keep up the good work guys and gals and thank you!"
Joking and being serious about a company being incompetent is toxic now?
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>>180761564
Is there a wiki page for legends?I whanna see the new spell trees.
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>>180761106
Dunno, I did Blade/AR on TSW for the Slayer outfit, and because the Blade skills looked interesting, I don't really know what to pick without access to the game now.
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>>180759809
>Lets all be civil and keep the Kirsten Geary posting to a minimum. Thanks.
Nah.
>>180761336
Dame Julia I guess.
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>>180761776
Not that i've seen any come up yet nah.
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>>180761408
>>180761447
>>180761735
I meant actual faggots not templars you bunch of double mon'keigh.
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>>180761963
You can still go beg Sonnac for dick if you'd like, my point still stands
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God now it says 19:00
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So, where will you use that code you get from the ritual bullshit?
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>>180762036
Judging by the concept art he does look like a faggot.
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>>180761820
>Blade/AR
I had a good build for Tokyo with those weapons but seing how synergy are gone I don't know if it will work in Legend.

Also I don't know how I will get back my golden desert eagle.
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>>180761963
All dragon players get blowjob from the recruitment chick, regardless of the character's preferred gender.
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>>180762116
>23:00 UTC
Omg it's real.
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>>180762205
On the SWL account page probably.
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>>180762327
I wish I were trolling.
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>>180762205
Next waxing moon is tomorrow so tomorrow.
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>>180761963
Moose I guess. He's in love with officer Andy though.
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>>180761963
Kek, no they don't get anything at all, even best boy Andy is taken. Meanwhile hetero master race (and lesbians):
>magical oral sex from a ching chong
>Cassandra rubs her body all over you
>some flirting with NPCs
I haven't progressed past Egypt because that second zone full of shit and ghouls and statues was terrible, so maybe there' something more.
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>>180762319
>gender
Sex you mean, either way it's hetero heaven.

Also I bet Funcon is so incompetent they gave up on trying to fix the bug and just called the IT guy.
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Do we have any in-game chat channel for /vg/?
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I can't help but think of Hercules.
Also that crow is fucking with me.
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>>180762271
>Also I don't know how I will get back my golden desert eagle.
Would be nice if ARG weapons have good stats, pistol looks awesome as fuck.
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So, let's revive the gool olde vidya channel once tha game is back up?
>/chat join vidya
What about making cabals once more?
>inb4 they die as fast as the ole /vg/ cabals
We had such a great Templar cabal name Carpe Virgo Minores
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>>180762508
That's my point, I'm not against with sexualized shit but why can't both sides get eye candies?
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>>180762651
I can't even tell what constellation it's supposed to be
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>>180762651
>>180762807
Protip: Libra is near it
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>>180761563
Templars are hardly /pol/

The black dude you meet at the beginning basically downplays the god part of it so it can be more inclusive.

Illuminati is /x/ (references to government black ops programs), Dragon is /pol/ (chaos stuff, kek before it got played out), Templar can be whatever since it is the most normal.
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>>180763068
>Illuminati is /x/
Nah Memeluminati is /b/
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>>180762674
Can't you still use them as appearance molds for better equipment?
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>>180763182
Anything is /b/ or reddit if you call it a meme.
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>>180763068
Lol it doesn't have anything to do with "being more inclusive".
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>>180762651
>>180762807
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus ?
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>>180763412
It's not white nationalist nor is the main focus about fighting for good and instead it's about fighting evil and maintaining order. None of these relate to /pol/ at all.
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>>180763567
I was talking about the god part.
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>>180763531
I was right, that is Rasalhague.
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>>180761106
Chaos + pistols
I enjoy having 3 clones of me running around
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>>180763393
But the Illuminati overmind actually likes memes.
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>>180763738
That's her problem.
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>>180762875
bah, this took me way too long
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>>180763785
>her
I was not talking about Geary.
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>>180763531
>>180763654
Strange how entering Ophiuchus doesn't do it, but Rasalhague did.
Damn anon, you saved me. Kept entering Ophiuchus over and over again.
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>>180763940
>keep your eyes on the brightest
>a star is clearly marked
anon...
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>>180763940
Because Ophiucus is the constellation but Rasalhague is the star that shines brightest of all stars in the constellation.
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>>180763940
Rasalhague shines on the picture.
Now I am almost out of "charges" and trying to unlock the pistols, how do I do this shit? Not sure I got any clues, nor do I know what happens when I run out of charges.
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>>180763648
>we are not the knights templar, that went out with pageboy haircuts and burnings at the stake
>we run a 21 century (CURRENT YEAR) "forward-facing" organization
In retrospect, it does exist to serve the "Church," but those quotes are where my line of thought came from.

>>180763883
Not that far in, I'm going off of opening impressions about the faction's ideologies rather than how some of it's members behave.
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>>180763940
>>180764084
>>180764136
>>180764141
>didn't notice the shine
fuck I need sleep, 3 days awake isn't doing wonders for my eyes.
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>>180764141
Nothing happens when you run out of energy. The red lights indicate you have some of the right symbols, although according to some other folks having red lights just means you have the correct symbols, not the correct order.
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https://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?99164-New-SWL-ARG-Started-by-Black-Watchmen!/page41 Here are the solutions for the weapons. Still unsure how they solved them apart from trial and error.
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>>180764141
Red means 1 right symbol in right position.white means 1 right symbol in wrong position.blank means 1 wrong symbol. Symbols can be used multiple times. The color Indicator position is unrelated to its corresponding symnol's position
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>>180761106
Using Blade as primary, not decided on secondary yet.

I used to have Blade+Fist as my main solo setup in TSW but none of the old synergies exist anymore so I'm not sure where to go.
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>>180764141
The combination for pistols is 1 , 2 , 4 , 3 , 2, clockwise, starting from top.
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is there a guild or anything?
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>>180761106
Shotgun and Hammer after restarting from my Warlock. AR felt like such crap when I used it.

I really don't feel like I need to use my hammer, ever.
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>>180764202
>In retrospect, it does exist to serve the "Church," but those quotes are where my line of thought came from.

Nononononono... Knights Templars was just an experiment by the templar organisation into having a public face. Experiment that got shut down hard when Illuminati plotted the downfall of Knights Templar.
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and I hoped to get in Egypt today,,
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>>180764304
I used trial and error to get mine
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How the fuck do i solve the tarot riddle? Tried both The Suit of Coins and The Suit of Pentacles but it says it's wrong.
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>>180761106
Not got round to playing yet, but considering hammer/fist or hammer/shotgun.
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>>180765189
it's one word, not in plural you have it in your post
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>>180764304
Finding out how many of each symbol the combination has was easy as just going through each symbol, putting it in 5 times, and then marking down how many red Xs you get per symbol. Then you just had to brute force a combination from the 120 (max for 5 different symbols) possible combinations.
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>>180765406
Was afraid to do it, as there were charges to choose from, and was not sure what the penalty was.
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>>180761106
blade/blood for maximum edge
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>>180765560
The energy gauge just resets once it runs out, you can do it endlessly.
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>>180764578
It ain't random?
In that case, shotgun is 5, 2, 5, 4, 1
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>>180765673
Nah, each weapon has one combination.
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This thread is going to die before the maintenance end, Mark my word.
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>>180766393
can we at least get a cabal going? I'd like to do dungeons when they're still level appropriate.
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hey just started downloading
ive never seen this game before
what am i in for? how unique is it? if i invest time into it, will i be rewarded? im a long-time mmo vet and ive played everything from wow to the most obscure f2p korean/japanese mmo

im thinking of going punisher or mercenary. are those good picks?


will we have some sort of group going?
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Can you only get one weapon from that ARG?
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So whats the difference between the Legends and Classic?
The launcher has both available down at the bottom.
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>>180766541
/vg/ guilds always end up in drama, I feel a chat channel to be a more promising start.
Though, if a cabal is made, I will consider joining it, if nothing else, people playing this game are of the more mature kind most of the time.
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>>180766656
Classic is dead, and Legends is classic + all DLC issues and a new, way better, combat system.
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>>180766609
You're in for the best story/atmosphere/setting in a MMO. Quests are the strength of SWL.

>>180766642
You can get every weapon once per account.

>>180766656
Classic is in maintenance mode, and will not get any more updates. Classic has more complex skill system, maybe even overtly complicated.
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>>180766807
thanks didnt know, last time i even looked at this game was years 4+ i think ago and did the free trial setup, i liked it a lot but the big price tag threw me off
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I hope they put back in dungeon loot drops, or atleast a small chance to get something from the bosses. 10(18) *dungeon* keys for a chance at distellates is kinda retarded. There is no point or fun factor in running a dungeon at this point once you use up all the keys.
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>>180766393
I'm surprised it even has a thread
TSW general died a long time ago, and how likely are people gonna look in /vg/ unless they find out somehow in /v/?

>>180766657
>mature
Less likely now that its F2P, can only hope for the best in the long run
Still, I find alot of helpful friendly folk from TSW, just gotta learn how to find them
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>>180766656
Classic:
>no updates
>buy to play, buy issues to play them
>they said they won't kill the server (yet)
Legends:
>no Kaidan yet (soon)
>f2p with cash shop, some bonuses if you've bought classic
>only reticle combat now because they want to cawadoody audience
>only 2 weapons at the start for f2p, can grind for more
>all story/issues content free
>can only buy QOL things like bag space with jew points (bought for real money or bought with special other jew points from players, kinda like dilithium in STO)
>season 2 "sometime in the future"
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Is Pistol/Element now actually viable?
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>>180767198
>just gotta learn how to find them
Sanctuary chat channel, and can always look around for TSW-only cabal, I am sure there will be such very soon.
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>download install
>patcher comes up
>says downloading patch information for the past 10 minutes

h-help

also is there any trininty at all
i want to heal :3c
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>>180767243
I'm trying to go for Pistols main and the Ele for flicker. Pistols at least are very much viable.
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>>180767376
they have shut down everything atm'
try again in 60mins (unless more delays)
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Its fun as duck. Don't like how they locked trading behind paywall tho
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>>180767376
There is at max level. Hard mode dungeons will require a tank and a healer.
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>>180767376
Currently in extended downtime.
Yes, there is absolutely holy trinity. Weapons like Assault Rifle, fist, blood magic, etc. have heal trees (leech, direct heal+hot, absorb shields and some heal), not sure if there are now more. Initial dungeons are in story mode, so a walk in the park, but nightmare mode, if it was like in TSW, will make you sweat.
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>>180767559
alright thanks

>>180767620
i got linked something that said the game had classes
im assuming you pick one at the start for your first two weapons but later on you can swap in and out?

im thinking AR + fists
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>>180767797
>im assuming you pick one at the start for your first two weapons but later on you can swap in and out?

Nailed it.
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>>180767797
You are assuming correct. Classes are the starter options, you mix two weapons together to form your "class", each weapon has three main lines of specialization, + passive skills.
AR + Fist would be a leech+hot healing, maybe some ground target AOE, not sure, have not checked the new AR. I recommend looking around, as even shotgun has group wide heal +debuff clear. None of us are probably so into the new system as to point out the most optimal and/or fun builds. My healer will either go blood magic/pistols, or something similar.
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>>180767305
There should be a notice on how to join custom chat channels and functions.
A cabal seems nice but need patron/sub status to make one (though everyone can probably join one sub or no) at the moment. Preferably I'd just keep it to a chat channel and no more than that. Last time (or just in general as of with all MMOs) there was eventually some bad blood/drama between everyone.
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>>180768217
Well, I presume like in the old one:
/chat join Sanctuary
Sanctuary is the channel for new players, where veterans hang out to help.
If we pick a name, (veegee?) it should be /chat join <name>
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>>180768408
https://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?76927-Need-help-in-game-Presenting-the-Sanctuary
In case new players need it.
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>>180768092
Not him but I want to run something with pistols. Can you go full-on DPS or do you need utility/buff skills if you're going to be a damage dealer?
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>>180768408
The old was just "vidya".
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>>180768651
Pistols especially are very viable for dps now, you can go dps with any weapon, pistols even more so. For a secondary, consider a blade or a shotgun with specialization on depleted uranium shells. So far this has worked for me, but we don't know yet what will turn out to be "meta" on max level.
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yo, does the downtime also affect downloading the game?
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Would there be moderation in the /vg/ channel so you can kick memeing retards who shit up the place? The reason these groups fail is because nobody wants to get rid of these guys
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>>180768871
It shouldn't. The download speed varies wildly though.
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>>180769418
got a 105 error on the client and apparently it wont download anything until the servers are online
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>>180769672
Well shit.
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Is this game fun?
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Is there a DPS ranking for weapons? I'm kind of enjoying ARs aright now, are pistols good? Is there a way to reset skill points in the future?
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>>180768873
I believe there are functions for that (though I have not used them myself)
The problem is, iirc, if its like the old chat system, then moderation goes to whoever logs into the channel first (unless they changed something in the new version)
In these cases, I'd have a backup channel/plan if shit goes downhill & keep in contact with friends
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>>180769842
Yes.
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>>180770026
No, yes, no (you can gather infinite points, but cannot reset).
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>>180769842
Yes.
>>180770026
Pistols are prolly top single target atm. People haven't really had time to test out everything yet. No info on possible skill point resets. Highly likely won't happen, as you will be unlocking every single weapon tree eventually. Each weapon tree has a "capstone" talent that gives you passive increase to stats, and you need to fill in the tree to unlock it.
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Is sword good? In TSW I used to use a sword/chaos build for plowing through pve content and farming xp. Was fun.
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>>180769842
Its fun running around in a speedo killing ancient monsters yes
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Anyone know the incantation for fists?
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>looking up guides for investigation missions
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5 minutes to another maintenance extension notice. Are you excited yet, /swlg/?
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3 more minutes till the servers are up?
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>>180762750
oh man that channel was dead for so long, whenever I came back I would log in, and there was this faggot who would always come up and help me and carry me for weeks.

I miss that faggot, but I can't even remember his nickname. If you were that faggot I love you and I hope we could hands together sometime.
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>>180770552
From what I played sword seems really effective as a primary because the spirit blade mechanic almost doubles your damage.
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>19:01
>servers not up
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Does anyone know how to get the max MoF everyday?
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Is the launcher dead it doesn't even show any info or anything any more now that the servers are supposed to be up, yet it still doesn't download anything.
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>>180772780
Same here, it showed some info before but now it's fully dead.
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>>180772493
It's midnight at funcom's office. Whoever was trying to fix that shit up is long time sleeping.
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>>180772689
do the daily achievements/goals. whatever it was.
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>>180772689
You should check the official forums.
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>>180772870
i like to think they will all wake up in the morning and show up to work to see that the servers burst into flames while they left them to patch ovr night and burnt down the office
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Is there any beneffit to having multiple characters? leveling is so slow and there's no alternate progression path. I don't think I can stomach doing it more than once, specially since actives/passives unlocks are character based.
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10 minutes past 19 and still no info given. Are they dead?
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>>180773109
We might have better chances with the firemen trying to fix the servers.
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>maybe people wont be that mad if we stop all communication until the servers are up again
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>>180773238
No benefit except for experiencing different faction cutscenes.
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>Open up game executables in the root folder
>Get put into the patcher window
nice desu ne
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>>180773109
I'm thinking that they'll all wake up, print some resumes, and go hit up McDonald's or whatever because this shit isn't going to be the golden goose to save Funcom.
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>>180773363
And being on the winning team as a Dragon
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Anything on their twitter?
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>>180773506
just wait for the "shit happens and sorry, we had to wipe everything" announcement
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>>180773506
i honestly haven't looked at the company that much are they that bad off?
I mean Conan didn't seem to be that big and popular back when i tried that the new Conan didn't seem to hit it off either in the survival autism crafting world and i have no idea if they've made anything else.
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>>180773638
Nothing so far.

>>180773709
I'd really prefer them doing that instead of taking so much time trying to fix things...
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>>180773709
I am ok with that, they should just bring the servers up.
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>>180773709
Honestly that's what they should do, some faggots getting mega rich should be corrected. I can't believe they were so incompetent, but I've seen worse, it wasn't fixed and game went to shit for a long period. Neverwinter online had an incredibly stupid programming bug, you could bit negative in the auction house, like -20 gold, and it would give you money some shit like that, the bug was there for like a month. Until someone got bored and told everyone in general or the forums, and in 5 hours everyone who was online had unlimited money. They only did a rollback for those 5 hours, and they only removed the money, all the shit people bought during that time frame was still in their inventory.

Compannies should have 0 tolerance for exploits.
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>>180773920
Same, I haven't gotten far anyway but at least offer some decent compensation for those who got wiped and not banned.

How did the exploit work anyway?
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>>180773797
They're doing pretty badly. Conan's tanking, whatever online lego game they made tanked, and a few years back they were getting investigated in Sweden for financial misconduct.
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It's one bug, how it could take so long to fix it?
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>>180774646
They're undoing all the exploits and making sure that when they undo it people who paid for jewbux have what they paid for, and that's a lot of shit to go through.

Some of the blame's on Funcom, sure, but if there weren't so many {{{exploiters}}} trying to get {{{shekels}}} for nothing we wouldn't be here.
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>>180774646
It's not really a bug, it's the entire transaction algorithm, it's poorly designed as it has no taxes. People can just buy and sell infinitely and fuck the entire economy while they become omega rich.

So not only they have to fix it, they probably need to implement a permanent change, and considering the day and time there might not be someone with enough clearance to implement such a dramatic change.
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>>180774818
>>180774871
Some people just couldn't leave it alone? Just report the bug and move on? What the hell they were thinking what was gonna happen? "Oh, they'll totally let me go scott-free, teehee. Aren't I great?"
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>>180774579
>Conan's tanking

Are you retarded?
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>>180773797
Conan Exiles saved them from bankruptcy at launch, but now I wouldn't know.
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02:35 in the morning. Still waiting.
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>dead general
>dead game
2017 and nothing changes, but got dang i love this fucking game, lore discussions when

sieg heil
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>>180775235
>02:35
Finlanderos?
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>>180775346
It's literally the first general for Legends. What the fuck are you smoking?
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The launcher lives again, but it says server offline and isn't downloading.
Well, good night anons.
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>>180775013
A little - I heard Conan was in maintenance mode and didn't care enough to go and make sure it's true because it matched other stuff I knew about Funcom.
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>>180773630
I highly doubt they'll make one faction win at the end, that would make everyone assmad. Not that the game will ever survive to see the story end.
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>>180775235
>Still waiting.
And it is still down.
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>>180775443
If you meant the MMO then you were right I suppose. Conan Exiles is doing really well on the other hand.

>>180775379
Agarthassa tavataan.
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>>180775013
Age of Conan doesn't even get 100 active players in a day.

Conan Exiles is a different game, a literal cash grab that will never be finished.
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>>180775379
Nah, balticshit
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>>180774579
>whatever online lego game they made tanked
That dinky minifigure action game? Did anyone else who had an account for that game can't log onto TSW with it?
>Do account recovery since I had a Funcom account
>Account name is a literal random mess and I can't even log onto it even with password recovery
"lego-0508f4a6dc6e409a9ae12a42bd6ccc2f" is a great autoname for a dead game.
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>>180775346
Still waiting for Post Tokyo being on the run as global fugitives
Or who Daimon really is and how hes gonna make the Dragon like the Yakuza or god knows what after replacing Bong Cha aka boring office lady
or the purpose of the Hive
or the Morninglight or Phoenicians making a move after all the shit you find out in Tokyo
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"We are continuing work on bringing the servers up. Please stay tuned for further updates!"
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What exploit are people talking about? I'm in the dark
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Does anyone remember those detective mission issue packs? Are those part of this release?
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>>180775952
but thats too far ahead, what about the hippie chick, wicked witch of the south

sieg heil
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patch is up
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I am downloading a patch!IT IS HAPPENING!!!
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Anyone else's patcher patching?
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>>180776461
>>180776486
>>180776490
A definite improvement
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>>180776017
Game allowed people to just manipulate Aurum/MoF market by buying low selling high, because there was no trade tax. Some people made millions with a tiny investment.
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>>180776490
patching slow as fuck, but yeah
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>>180776017
There was some auction house sheenanigans that allowed the duplication of currency, both marks of favour and aurum. A whole fuckton of {{{shekelsteins}}} went wild enough that they brought the game down and their {{{greed}}} is what's kept the game down all day.
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>downloading 60 mb at 3-40 kb/s
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Any advice for a strong solo build? I'm relatively new to TSW, and haven't played Legends yet
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>>180777046
sword blood used to be a go-to back when the game came out to get people through blue mountain, but I have no idea what's good now.
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Why don't these niggers get proper download servers with all that Conan money? It's like this every time.
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>>180777046
This new secret world is really streamlined in a sense that levelling won't be a challenge, so play whatever looks cool to you. You won't be committed to your weapon forever, so dont worry.
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>>180777046
>>180777135
Sword chaos, actually, I'm retarded. Either way, I still have no idea what's good now.
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>>180777046
It feels like builds don't really matter until maybe end game. I'm playing Punisher with shotguns and hammers and just steamrolling everything. Just play what you think looks cool.
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>>180777046
Shotgun blade probably
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>>180777046
Shotgun and swords are pretty faceroll friendly, get one of those or both.

If you don't want to deal with any mechanics just pick trickster, chaos+pistols since it doesn't have to micro manage any gimmicks you can just spam your shit all day, it's labeled as 1 skull difficulty for a reason.
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>Start game
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>>180777409
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the download rates are shit, damn
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this slow ass dl speed has to be on purpose
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>>180777725
>hmm, we couuuuuld invest in more bandwidth or just grin and bear the whining for a couple of hours
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>>180777261
[You can barely see download speed because of the white font/white background but you know it's bad because downloaded amount is barely moving]
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https://secretworldlegends.com/news/hotfix-june-25-2017-downtime/
>The Auction House and the Exchange are temporarily disabled to give us more time to test the fixes to them. We hope to have both features back and working very soon!

There goes my dumping ground for 1pip fodder not useful to me to free up tiny inventory/bank spaces.
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>25 mb left
>estimated time: 20 minutes
It's like im really in 2001 again
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>>180778474
i had better speed in 2001 desu
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And we're back online.
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bampu
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I can't get past "authenticating with the character server." :(
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The game is painfully slow at the moment
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>>180783129
Download is so slow yeah
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So did we settle with atleast having a chat channel in game? Cause fuck paying to make a cabal or whatever not that we'd actually do anything.
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>>180783129
>>180784827
should i just do the lite client for now and finish downloading the rest later?
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>>180785139
If the download is slow as hell, then better just download it later
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>40 kb/s download
also why is the lite client "the first 5 hours of gameplay" but also 75% of the size of the full client
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>>18078577
Engine, not assets, I would think.
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I've been in the game for a while. But I'm getting a shit ton of lag.
I got nothing downloading, nobody on my network. The game keeps making me switch servers but I still keep getting so much lag.
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>this many posts in and no one has posted their character

How unlike an mmo general.
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>>180789037
>Wanting avatarfags
Fuck off to your waifusim mmos
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>>180789037
This lag is despair
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>Skips cutscene
>DING
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>>180789037
Do you want to see a guy wearing a speedo and pig helmet
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>>180788650
the retard
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If avatarfags start posting in these threads the general will just end up becoming shit like all other MMO generals.
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>>180789981
You cant expect this general to be immune
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>>180789981

does it matter which of the three i choose other than story, and if so which one has the best story.
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>>180789848
never knew they made a card based on you anon
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>>180790519
I like the Illuminati best. The Dragon is a bunch of lolsorandumb XD fags and the Templars are a bunch of oldfags.
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>>180789981
This general won't survive a month anyways, probably not even a week.

Avatarfags at least keep the threads bumped, creeps playing an unpopular mmo? they just lurk and get angry at everything, and tell people to google for answers instead of helping.

>People posting avatars
>in a game where all there is to do is grind shit, or get some fashion crap
>oh the horror
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>>180791059
why would you attack me like this
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>Play AR.
>Rip bosses off every tank I've been with in Polaris.
The burst is pretty good. I like it.
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>>180792589
wait really? everyone has been shitting on Rifle since the head start started... complaining about the fucking grenades and the no hit rating or something... AR was sleeper OP or something?
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>>180792589
>Tanks existing
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>>180793249
The grenade mechanic is kind of clunky in that it's not off the GCD and you have to manually target THEN place it, otherwise it's pretty decent.

As for being "OP" I don't know but the damage is really good. I wish this game had a damage meter or something.
>>180793549
Shut up retard unless you're going to talk about the game instead of spouting memes.
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>>180793249
Sounds to me >>180792589 was talking about how AR is only useful for pulling aggro.
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>>180793676
AR has no enmity traits at all, it's pure damage and it's surprisingly good.
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>>180784849
Just use
Vidya
like we did in TSW
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>>180772003
it's not my fault that one where you follow a dude who has summonned (and got rekt by) a succubus was glitched and made you feel like a retard even if you pressed the correct symbols
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>>180776085
yes
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>Using AR
>Try out burst fire
>Can get max three out in a row
>Most likely only two because you need to save atleast 2 energy to use for your 'Nade
>Have to waste a skill slot just to get Lock 'n Loaded
Aside from 1v1 situations, why I shouldn't pick Full Auto over Burst Fire?
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Alright, new player here. Help me understand dungeons.

I get 10 dungeons (per day?) that I can use to open the boss chests in a dungeon. When those keys run out, no more loot. Would it be better to skip the first 2 chests of a dungeon to have a better chance at better loot?

I ran Polaris with a friend and a pug. Is it always groups of 3? I was tank, friend was damage, pug was healer. Is it always holy trinity?

I think I read that dungeons give exp only once. Is this true, or is it a once/day thing? It also didn't seem like very good exp either.
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>>180789037
Didn't like my first weapon choice so I went from Warlock to Punisher and Templar to Illuminati.
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>>180797425
Dungeons are always 3 yes
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>>180760064
The one of the 2 best NPCs in the game, the other being Japanese Joker of course.
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>>180796061
You can expend all your energy on Burst Fire and then use Lock and Load, what are you talking about. You need to let the grenade cook before using it anyway.
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>>180761776
TSWL is under a NDA I think.
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>>180798947
Nightmare mode is 5, no?
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>>180788650
2 of cups?
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>>180800445
That ended 3 days ago
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Is it possible to unlock all the weapon skins for the ARG or can we only choose one?
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>>180801971
One
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How long did it take for the email code to arrive from the ARG?
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>>180801971
>>180802289
The rewards page for the soul collecting thingy sounds as if you do get ALL of them though.
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Hey /swlg/

I'm looking for a new MMO and was stupidly tempted for Black Desert - but then I heard this game went F2P and relaunching today - ergo I'm now downloading the client. I was a huge fan when TSW was announced and loved all the trailers - sadly I didn't think the beta was worth a monthly subscription so I stopped caring...

but it's F2P now so huzzah! Can someone fill me in on wtf to expect? Also what's this ARG stuff? It won't load for me
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>>180804168
Don't power game, 90% of the enjoyment is the story and atmosphere. The flavor text after quest completions can even be well done and enjoyable.

Combat is better but its not a selling point, enjoy the ride and do all the content especially on Solomon Island and Transylvania.
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>>180804613
Seeing as the last guild I was in was when GW2 launched and pretty much lost touch with them... I'll be going in alone meeting new people and such

how bad is the grind?
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I'm supposed to login with my tsw credentials to get some stuff right ?
Because it doesn't take my old ID/passwd, and I even checked them in the old website.
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>>180804840
Not that bad, just have an idea what you want to do and what weapons you like. There was a holy trinity at end game in TSW but TSL may break that depending on what they do with elite/nm dungeons. I hope they go down the route of everyone in the group should be helping the group survive.
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>>180804901
Sorted it, SWL used my old email and password, there's no sync between the accounts, they just did an import.
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>>180777996
>investing money for a DoA """"""new"""""" game
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>>180803042
I heard its supposed to be arriving tomorrow for everyone
I didn't get a code from them yet
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>was blade/pistol in tsw
>want to blade/pistol again
>no class which does this
>pick punisher as a temp class
>game forces me to waste ap/sp on hammer shit
>no vendor to buy a starter pistol from despite having it unlocked from transfer of TSW

this fucking triggers me. this fucking hammer is sucking up my XP and i dont like it.
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>>180792478
you must learn to use the dark side, the force shall free you
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My main complain about legends is how easy the fight are and how railroad they made the game. Hope it gets better after kingsmouth
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>>180808701
Almost the same with blade/ar.
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hell raises
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>>180809642
railroad? I finished the main questline and I was still lvl 9, I don't get an update until lvl 12, so I did the investigation missions with the fucking puzzles which are supposed to give a ton of xp, finished those after struggling with them, and I'm still lvl 9.... I have no clue on how to get to 12 now. I mean sure there's a ton of quests scattered around, but it doesn't feel like a railroad to me, if anything is the oposite, they make you walk too fucking much back and fort and waste time because you can't just pick all the quests and clear them, you have to turn in and walk back to pick the ones you had missing or couldn't pick because they had a pre req.
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>>180810634
>but it doesn't feel like a railroad to me

For now I can't pick the quest I want and the main "blue" quest force me to do things in a certains order.

>they make you walk too fucking much back and fort and waste time because you can't just pick all the quests and clear them

Already that way in classic, it's part of the appeal of TSW and it add to the atmosphere.
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>>180808701
>>180809973
You can't just take anything you want right away? Why the fuck.
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>>180811967
To make it simpler for the console trash.
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>>180811967
Just progress a bit and it's only for 5 - 6 first missions.
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Only getting distillate in polaris, fuck this shit.
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Ohh wow, the general survived the night.

>>180808701

You literally "have" to take one skill in the off hand weapon. Why did you pick a class that didn't have your favourite main hand weapon as a starter anon? Why didn't you pick assassin and then just switch the Elementalism for pistols anon?
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>Game updates.
>Launch game.
>Nothing happens.
>Relaunch launcher.
>Game updates again.
Th-thanks.
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how do you get key for the dungeon ?
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>>180816690
You get 10 a day i think
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>>180816979
Great so if you're unlucky and only got shit you have to wait 24h.
>>
Are any of the new weapon mechanics fun?
No idea which weapon to use as my main and the class selection screen is incredibly vague.
>>
How do I get my old shit?
I logged on my old TSW account to check that my char was indeed still there, logged him in a bit, then went on my TSWL account and did TSW Legacy Transfer but I don't have anything in game.
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>>180818168
Shit nevermind, of course I see the button after asking.
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>Walk into Tabula Rasa in London.
>Look up.
>Feels like I just shot up heroin, dropped acid and snorted cocaine through my butt.
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>>180817893
I once had 4 clones of me out at once. I found that fun. I wish I knew how i proc'd the 4th one
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Are there no weapon vendors in this game?
I am level 17 and i am still rocking my first shotgun.
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>>180818462
Clones are from the Blood Magic mechanic and?
I chose the pistol/shotgun, but so far I'm not liking the chamber spinning mechanic unless I get some semblance of control over it in the future. Now its just a random chance at a very short buff.
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>>180818789
Clones are from chaos. Im currently Chaos/Pistol
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>>180818784
You DID upgrade it though, didn't you?
And to answer your question: they removed the vendors for SWL.
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>>180819202
>You DID upgrade it though, didn't you?
Yes i did.
>they removed the vendors for SWL.
So i just have to hope i drop a second shotgun...
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>tfw waiting for my revenant item so I can pump all my weapon distillates in it
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Is there a difference between primary and secondary weapon?
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>>180761336
Don't insult my wife.
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>>180819261
>So i just have to hope i drop a second shotgun...
You can use the auction house. There is no point in changing weapons unless they are higher rarity though. Even if they are higher rarity, it just means you have to go back to Kingsmouth to start grinding it back up to higher levels (unless you stockpiled weapons to spam upgrades).
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>>180820686
Auction house is disabled atm.
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>>180819651
Primary weapon energy recharges twice as fast as off hand.
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Fuck you Funcom, dungeon reward sucks !
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>>180824949
Did people even do dungeons more than once in the original? Outside of endgame shit I mean.
I just hit dungeons up for the story and never went back.
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>>180824949
What do you mean?Are all of those exp vials?
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>>180825271
Yes, You had high chance of getting better weapon and talisman that could carry you for the zone.

>>180825394
Yes
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>>180825523
So you think it'd be better to save up your keys until your gear is shit and then run the level appropriate dungeon or something'?
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Is there literally no way to use 2 weapons in Legends? My favorite TSW build was Elemental/Blood, and I already ran out of ability slots.
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>>180826000
I don't even know why you would use a second weapons skill unless they're buffs or stun.
Sure the new weapon mechanics are much better than
>fill resource bar
>use resource bar
>repeat
but they completely destroyed any semblance of builds.
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>>180825981
I don't know, I've run the dungeon 5 times and never got a weapon.
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>>180826115
Yeah. At this point I only use 3sec stun from the blood tree.
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>>180788650
Something of wands.
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>>180826721
You didn't even TRY to recreate the outfit.
0/10
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>>180827223
Is there a CIA emote in the game?
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Quick question: Controller support, yes or no?
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>>180828565
>Controller support
kys
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>>180829339
Rude.
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>>180828565
NO, NEVER, SONIGGERS GET OUT, REEEEEE

No, but if you're that much of a consoletard that you have to play MMO with a controller, you can set it up with xpadder
https://steamcommunity.com/app/215280/discussions/2/133261124635198193/
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>>180826523
Knight of Wands?
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>>180829559
Man, like, seriously now...
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>>180814398
i didnt realize that one was a 'primary' and one was 'secondary' and that it actually mattered beyond naming, because it sure didnt fucking matter in TSW.
>>
I can't decide between Illuminati or Templar, who should I pick?
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>>180830649
if you are an old-school, fight against the darkness, be the savior of mankind type of person, Templar

if you are a power obsessed egomaniac who thinks corporate america is great, or if you have worked at comcast, bank of america, or some place similar and liked it, then Illuminati.
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>>180830649
Illuminati for modern egotistical assholes, Templar for old-school assholes.
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>>180830757
>>180830958
is there a difference in the factions from a play style stand point, like can i play with people who choose another faction?
Also what about dragons?
>>
>>180830757
>>180830958
So in other words Templar are traditionalists while Illuminati are Jews?
Think I'll just go Templar then.
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>>180831051
Yes, you can play with people on other factions. It has no effect on your playstyle, it's only for story and pvp purposes.

Dragons see themselves as chaos theory personified; by manipulating events in the right way, they can achieve progress towards some higher goal. They never tell you what this goal is though, so they always come across as 'lolsorandum' assholes.

>>180831074
Good choice.
>>
So if i want to be a healer and use a rifle can i do it?
its telling me warlock is 5 skulls in the difficulty aspect of things
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>>180832047
you can if you want to. it kind of boggles my mind how an assault rifle could possibly be capable of healing anything - always seemed to me like it was better at the opposite of that

as for difficulty...nothing in SWL is really hard. particularly since the combat system was dumbed down


gotta be honest, only reason im on SWL and not classic is because SWL gives all the issues for free
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>>180832047

rifle is mainly a healing weapon anyway i think

the skulls dont really mean shit. every weapon is some dumb flavour of gimmick now, you just pick the flavour of bullshit you'd like to deal with: timed detonations that blow up in your hands if not spent, playing slots, balancing a pendulum bar, etc.
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>>180832047
You can, AR are part of a leech build.
Also don't mind the skull as long as you aren't retard enough to jump in aoe everything is easy enough.

Keep the blood weapon as primary otherwise you will lack dps.
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>Can't recreate old character
What the fuck is this shit? I wanted to 'continue' playing my old character, so to speak, but they somehow made the character creation worse. How is that even possible?
I know it's superficial of me but this really kills my motivation to play.
Are they cashing in with Occam's Razor and Modern Prometheus? Am I forced to pay for the remaining customization options or did they just fuck up totally?
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>>180832047
Also if you don't put a ability that use the grenade in your skill bar you won't generate them, making the gimmick obsolete.
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>>180832462
thats a lot of questions to answer, anon.

>what the fuck is this shit?
this is SWL
>how is that even possible
never underestimate human incompetence
>are they cashing in with occams razor and modern prometheus?
unlikely, more probably that it was done entirely to cut costs
>am i forced to pay for the remaining customization options or did they just fuck up totally?
fairly sure they unlock as you play the game
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>>180832952
>done entirely to cut costs
How is changing the old system to a new one that has less options cutting costs?
It would have cost them nothing to retain the old system in its entirety.
This seriously makes me upset.
I tried to create my old character but I can't get the features right because you can't any more choose nose, mouth, and face shape separately and the facial hair options simply do not have the one I used.
I came close but it isn't the same and it's just unsightly to me after spending hundreds of hours with the old one. I feel like I'm going to have to change faction and gender to be even able to play but I don't want to leave my old character and unlocked clothing.
Fuck.
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>>180831074
Templars got Obama as their head. You dun goofed.
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>>180833443
You can scroll down on the hair thingy, just in case you missed that.
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So, just read about this shit. Had a lifetime sub, but quit playing years ago. Can I still login to my old account, spend all my free market points on clothes and then do the transfer to SWL?
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>>180834018
Sonnac is Nigerian
Not Kenyan
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Ok, i transfered my shit, got three character slot so might have worked.
But i just finished the tutorial and i have no pets anymore, neither greater sprint (i thought this was supposed to be transfered too). Will i get them later or am i fucked? I had more than 50 of them god damnit.
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>>180834262
Only vanity items acquired through points or in game purchases rather than achievements got transferred.
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>>180831074
Illiminati are typical egoists assholes, I wouldn't call them Jew. Maybe cyberpunk corporate, as long as you're a ruthless bastard you're good.
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Templars are Lawful Neutral, Illuminati are Neutral Evil.
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>>180835072
Templars are lawful stupid, Illuminati are neutral, Dragons are chaotic randumb.
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>>180834364
>achievements
You still get some from the achievements
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>>180834364
Bought a lot of them from the shop and got nothing atm.
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guys i chose the elem/chaos class but I dont know what active/passives I should invest in. does it matter how I spend the points or should i follow a proper build?
pls send help
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My head hurts from those puzzle missions.
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Are the DLC missions (like Tokyo) included in Legends?
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>>180836465
Tokyo is not in yet, Tyler Frohman, Last Train to Gizeh etc. are in.

New dressing room definitely is an improvement if you ahve lots of items.
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>>180759809
Best solo class?
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>>180836298
>pls respond
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Started playing today, I'm having fun

is playing this gamer like an Singleplayer story driven game a good idea?

I'm playing as a dragon and so far so good, i love all this chaos theory stuff
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>>180835743
I didn't get any of my old clothes either; What the fuck; I got my slots so obviously something worked, but why only some part of it?
Fuck, i really liked my old stuff. Got some sick pets too, like the white orochi sphere drone.
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>>180837209
you need to import them from the delivered item window
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>>180836971
That's the only correct way to play it. Maybe party up with people for dungeons, but only with people who don't skip cutscenes.
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>>180836971
>Is playing this gamer like an Singleplayer story driven game a good idea?

Yes, you can play solo or co-op with a friend and only join a party for the dungeon.
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I did the legacy transfer, and I got patron status for my lifetime sub, but I didn't get any of my clothes? How does this work?
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Try to make my classic char but she look older in legend.
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>Listen to Radio Free Gaia few months back during night
>Some finnish female DJ who ain't that great in english
>Metal music all night
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>>180837441
Ow? And where do you get that? Is it necessary to advance further to be able receive them?
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>>180837959
It's on the menu, but you need to reach the Agartha
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>>180837959
Once you reach Agartha.
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>>180838007
>>180838021
Ok, thanks a lot.
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>>180817503
welcome to f2p baby
you can be a patron and get more

But yeah no one likes this feature but the devs don't care. go post in reddit if you want it changed, they actually pay attention to the posts, get enough support and they may tweak something. Honestly I do think they'll change something and come out as heroes for fixing the game, blizzard does that all the time, go super jew and last minute change, now everybody loves them.
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>>180837697
slut
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I imagine there is no way to supress the reticule thingy? The way your character move everytime you move your mouse is pretty annoying.
Also, I would have liked to be able to mouseclick every now and often.
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>>180840215
You can change the reticle in the interface options. Also pressing alt brings up your cursor.
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>>180840215
Did you do the tutorial?
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Still haven't received the ARG weapon, anyone got it?
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>>180842068
Yes, i have it.
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is there a way to turn on subtitles i cant find shit in the bare bones options menu in game?
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>>180842274
Pics or didn't happen.
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>>180834152
yes, and youll have lifetime patron for free if you were grandmaster
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>>180835171
>>180835072
both of you are objectively wrong

templar is lawful good

illuminati is lawful evil

dragon is chaotic neutral
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Getting a weapon from green to blue change the weapon power from 379 to 500.
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Can someone upload the whole game somewhere ? Even the original even has it's been confirmed that copy pasted game files actually work.
Thanks.

Been trying to download this pile of shit since yesterday.
Downtimes made it impossible.
Right now i'm sitting at 11 kb/s instead of my 30 mb/s (on a bad day).
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>>180842068
I didn't even get a code.
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>>180831074
Illuminati have too many corporate memes for my taste
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Is there actually any point in playing this if I already own the original?

Am I just going to have to replay all the stuff I've already done with a watered down and shittier version of the combat?
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>>180846383
Today is the moon cycle, I believe.
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>>180762508
They pull an Age of Conan, unless they changed a lot the game gets less interesting with each subsequent chapter.

First one is great, awesome investigation quests, egypt starts to get a little wonky and the investigations aren't as good, and by transylvania you've probably already unlocked everything and who gives a shit. Most of the transylvania quests are nightmare quests also.

Remember that quest in Massachusetts in the tar pit area where you had to use the dynamite? Did anybody else figure out that you could use the dynamite anywhere? It was strong all the way up into nightmare dungeons. It kind of killed the game for me since my friends refused to stop doing it and it took the fun out of the game.
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>>180847118
>Is there actually any point in playing this if I already own the original?
for the promise of new story content in the nebulous future
>Am I just going to have to replay all the stuff I've already done with a watered down and shittier version of the combat?
yes
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>>180761106
AR/Shotgun for DPS, AR/Blood for healing

AR/Shotgun was ridiculous DPS in TSW but boring as hell, my favorite was Ele/Pistols which had a way more complex rotation
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>>180761106
Elemental/Blood.

I made a terrible mistake. I use everything from Elemental besides one skill. But blood's stun is good, and squashing heart animation is hilarious. Besides, I imported my TSW account, and I have all pages anyway. Not that it matters with the current 3.5 skill slots.
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>>180847118
>shittier version of the combat
It's easier and faster to kill shit, so it's definitely an improvement.
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>>180848839
Yet builds have way less variation.
Sure, many of TSW abilities were highly situational at best so it's not like many of those were widely used, but they really didn't achieve the 'every weapon feels distinct now'.
They could have done with less of this streamlining, even if the ability wheel and skills were slightly abstruse when starting the game.
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>>180849273
I agree, but at least I don't think to myself "god, I wish I could skip all the combat" every 10 seconds.
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I confess I'm a bit disappointed by the new skill trees. By the way, does any of you use the generator ? When my primary resource is empty, I just use my secondary until it's filled.
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>>180849273
the only streaming needed was mob hp reduction.
It's the only thing making the new combat better otherwise it's the same with a crosshair and less ability.
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>>180848321
I went the same route as you, but after a while switched blood to shotgun. It's been pretty nice so far.
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>0/50 or so on equipment drops

for real...? Dungeons are pointless past the first run through.
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>>180843501
>templar is lawful good
>Would burn down a village if it meant killing the 1 demon in it
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what the fuck, you can show your tits? I just made a char, alt+f4 during starting cutscene and now she is in panties and flashing tits... can I do that in game??

http://imgur.com/MtpWUfo
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>>180761106
Blade / Elemental for now, might try AR and pistols as secondary.
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>>180858078
the game as nipples in it
you should check the big tatas on the succubus
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Rate my Illuminati character

Tempted to go with the right version, but not sure.
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>>180859916
>male
shit/10
Put some tits on it you fag.
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>>180858078
I noticed it in the dressing room. Sometimes when switching outfits, the character went nude for a split second. Might be some way to glitch it.
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>>180859916
The right one will fit perfectly, especially in conversations with your boss.
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Damn is this general dead already?
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>>180860123
Are you retarded?
This is a rhetorical question.
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>>180860254
>>180860123
Look at what I found in my image folder...
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>erpers and lewdfags already infesting the general after the realize that swl has nipple texture
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>>180860254
>>180860625
Baited :^)
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>>180860771
>lewdfags already infesting the general after the realize that swl has nipple texture
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>>180860771
Idk, but I am pretty surprised by this since they censored the nipples with smileys in TSW. What's next? Conan dongs?
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>>180860940
>i totally meant to do that guize
:^)
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>unable to create more characters in this dimension
excuse me
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>>180859916
Geary really isn't hiring the best is she?
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>>180861902
I think the big three are all trying to snag whatever bee they can get.

Somewhat related, I'm wondering what Geary and the other think when you send them a report after having done the quest where you pick up an abandoned package and drop it at the correct address.
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>>180861902
WE WUZ ILLUMINATI N SHIET
[Spoiler]which is funby cause the templar handler is the one who is black[/Spoiler]
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So is the game neat? I loved the original thing, played it for a long while, was involved in a world first, but funcompetence started kicking in and I left off I forget when later on.
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>>180862305
Dont you just get generic text for those?
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>>180862927
Probably.
But she still gets "I delivered mail lol" three or four times in Kingston alone.
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Any advice for shotgun passives? I have odds and evens because that on seems prett obvious... but I'm not sure about the rest, any input appreciated, I feel like I'm wasting points in shit that isn't that good.
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>The aggro range on familiars while trying to do anything
>Those annoying as fuck screeches they do
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>>180864165
>the screech when they die
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Wonder if orange/red teir weapons are just the 2.5/2.6 stats from TSW or if they are actually stronger. Are any of the old side weapons in game still like chainsaw/whip?
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>>180865756
Nope. Gone.
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>best part of the game is the story
>i'm lv27 now and i haven't had a story quest for over 10 levels
and people wonder why the game failed
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>>180866819
>Get to the maint tunnels to spy on beaumont
>Next mission: get to level 14
Way to take me out of the story
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>>180866819
"best part of the game is the story" really means "best part of the game is Solomon Island's story and investigation missions".
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>>180862883
Combat is mouse-targetting style, and mobs have a lot less hp, so the fights are a lot less tedious. There must have been some improvement to the engine, as it runs quite smoothly.
Other than that, they gutted the circle of skills for three bars (per weapon in active/passive) you have to fill, so the way you unlock them is linear, and I didn't saw any special synergy between weapons.
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>>180869437
Transilvania was good too, only the first part of egypt is meh and I'm sure the difficulty curve from back in the day was responsible for that.
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>>180869437
Egypt is a big blur whenever i think about it
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>>180869574
idk, honestly all I remember of Transylvania is "lmao hordes of vampires, lmao the roman soldiers, blowing a lot of shit up and getting into that fucked up soviet bunker"
I much prefer what I remembered of Solomon.
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>>180841886
Yeah, saw the alt thing but it didn't seem to be permanent.
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>>180869810
I just remember the abandoned Orochi camp, that there was a pyramid and the themed monsters. Vaguely something about a town and a riot.
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Idk if its only me, but this 'new' combat feels extremely clunky, especially assault rifle. I like tab targeting more than pseudo non targer.
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>Teehee, gotta release the weapon codes at midnight
While somewhat cute, don't they realize it's monday/tuesday? Some people may have work.
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>>180870223
I don't like this new combat, desu.
And I don't appreciate that passives aren't linked anymore to damage type/states but instead to attacks or weapons.
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>played TSW years ago, but never went beyond the lakeside town


What has changed?
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>>180871425
Streamlined and dumbed down combat.
Obviously F2P now, too.
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So whats endgame like, is there even an endgame?
Are there dungeons that you can do that are only max level like hard modes in ESO or TOR?
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>only three beard colors to choose from

How the hell did they manage to make the character creator WORSE?
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>>180872159
They also took out more detailed face sculpting.

>>180872136
There was in the old TSW, can only assume it's here again.
And IIRC it was exactly that, dungeons at level appropriate for where you find them, a hard version at max level, and nightmare that was harder. Also there were some raids and pvp.
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>>180872315
nice, was there any autistic time sink stuff like housing in TOR or crafting?
ive only just started running around in the Lovecraftian main town and hit level 12.
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Does this game have mouse acceleration turned on by default? I'm having a heck of a time nailing down my default mouse sensitivity. If so, anybody know of any way to disable it by editing config files or something?
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I wonder how accurate this is. Note that SWL directly replaced TSW on Steam.
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>>180763567
>the main focus about fighting for good and instead it's about fighting evil and maintaining order. None of these relate to /pol/ at all.
>/pol/ fights against the eternal Jew
How is that not fighting evil?
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>>180873575
>I wonder how accurate a site using Steam's own API is.
Really makes me think
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>>180873575
SWL is not on steam yet, what you are seeing is just TSW.
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Just skimmed through the thread and I'm not enthusiastic to get back in-game after being away for a year.

How bad's the lag so far? Should I try now or wait another day?
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I can't deal with this fucking game. 2 days, level 28 and i'm already sick of it. The core gameplay loop is so extremely boring that getting to the good parts is just not worth the grind.
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>>180876415
how did you level so fast? game is asking me to level to 14 before I can even do the next story quest and I don't know what to do to get that much xp.
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>>180877441
Pick up every quest you can find, do it, stay in the area until they're all on cooldown and then move on to the next.
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>>180877589
Cooldown is 72 hours. Did you buy a fucking Patron for a game you don't even like?
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>>180878224

Even if he did, it's not really a point in an MMO's favor that a player can burn out in just 2 days.
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Welp, all my stuff transferred, was worried for a minute there. Lots of the old cosmetics got renamed and some were shuffled into new tabs.
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>>180879619
Considering his level he is likely just skipping every dialogue every cutscene just googling everything the second he gets every quest, running from point to point without

I mean, before this was cockblocked because of the combat busting your ass even if 2 enemies had agro on you if you didn't max your shit, but now you can bum rush through every combat part super fast, and if you cheat you on the puzzles they won't last much either. I don't think it's the game's fault someone is trying to reach max level in 2 days and then getting bored, the worst part of the game is the combat yes, but if that's all you care about then probably any game that isn't combat oriented will bore you to death.

It's like watching a chick flick and complaining they talk too much about their feelings. Or an action movie where you skip forward all the action scenes and then complain the story is shit. This game is very atmospheric, lore oriented, but if you just remove that good things out of it obviously it's going to seem extremely shallow. It's niche I won't deny that, but there's no other mmo like it, certainly not a mainstream title, and far from the best companny, but the good parts don't have an equal in any other title.
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>>180879619
You can burn out on anything in 2 days.
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>>180881025
>>180881304

You can use that very same argument to defend against the flaws of any game, no matter how irritating.

> Just focus on the good and dismiss the bad, even if the game allows you to do so!

I'm not trying to act as if I wouldn't have gotten burned out on some of my favorite games if I forced myself to play them for too long, but saying "pace yourself" always felt like a half-assed defense for any creative product. This game definitely has flaws that are more than just a matter of taste, in terms of both the combat system and its overall quest progression model. Sidling the player with all or even the majority of the blame comes across as petty when we all acknowledge that the game has issues to begin with.
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>>180881571
Then mention an mmo where you no life 2 days and it's amazing to keep playing and engaging and exciting even if you pretty much skip all the content and rush to clear every quest..

I'll wait here.

You people remove the rpg part from every mmo and wonder why the game is shit. This game is mostly an rpg, and the mmo part was an after thought implemented to monetize more, and I'm not making that up.

I don't know with that attitude you can complain about anything as well, sex, anime, any videogame, etc.
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>>180881571
It has flaws, sure but the guy you're defending didn't bring up any of them, though. He just said "I'm burned out after 2 days" without providing any reason why. What else is there to say but "don't complain about a tummy ache when you gorge yourself" to this anon?
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>>180881571

I hear your point, but this guy is clearly ignoring all cutscenes and story elements, which is kinda the game's strength. It's one thing to say "focus on the good" and its another to completely ignore the good and wonder why you can't find it.
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What's the bonus for someone who had bought the classic TSW?
Is it worth the trouble of getting access to my old account? I lost access to that e-mail, don't bully.
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>>180882150
You get a huge bonus if you want to train more weapons, along with any cosmetics you had if you care about cosmetics.

You can only get 10k units of game currency per day, unlocking a weapon costs a bunch of those, like 20k or 40k (I don't know because I transfered my acc), and the cost keeps increasing every time you unlock one afaik). That same currency is used to unlock inventory slots, sprint speed, and some other shit, so unless you want to spend your first month of dailies unlocking weapons or ignoring them it's worth linking your acc.
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>>180882045
I was complaining because the games only saving grace is the story. The combat is shit, the character progression through items and abilities is barely a thing, you don't get new armor, gadgets and weapons that actually make a difference and side quests are largely forgettable. I have no idea how i made it to egypt 4 years ago but now, i'm just past the mine, i already want to quit again.

And no, i don't look up the solutions to quests or use a fucking leveling guide.
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>>180882756
But then name an mmo that does what you want the way that you think it's optimal.

I'm still waiting.
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>>180873221
Bump.
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>>180882884
Why do drones for every MMO defend their game against others? Do you know you can observe and examine a game by itself? Hello? Not even that guy but your argument is fucking retarded.
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>>180882756
Fair enough. But you said this now. It's still not fair to pretend you said that before when all you said was that it's the game's fault you got burnt out.
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>>180882884
They should have completely axed the online part, voiced the PC, gotten rid of all the kill and fetch quests and sold it for 30 bucks. All the side quests feel like they're padding a 20 hour game to a 50 hour kill and grind fest.
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>>180883006
Well, okay, let's try this.

You're a fucking idiot.

If you defend yourself, you're a drone.

If you say nothing at all, you're in the right and prove it by backing up your words and comporting yourself in the manner you propose is correct.

What's it going to be?
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>>180882756

>you don't get new armor, gadgets and weapons that actually make a difference

This is wrong, but given that you only made it to egypt I'm not surprised you've written off the game. It's not a game for short attention spans.
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>>180883006
Because it's one thing to discuss the game, and another to make imaginary arguments about how everything sucks.

>this thing sucks, because it's not the way I want, it should be 100% free, it should give me all the cosmetics, it should having combat like DMC, it should allow me to craft clothes in real time and make my own brand and sell my clothes to other players, I should be able to ride a boat and be a pirate, it should allow me to have 4 arms and wield 4 different weapons in unique slots, and I want every weapon to have a unique active skill that evolves the more I use it....

And then I simply ask, which game does this thigns that you want? and you go silent... that means you're just complaining about your hopes and dreams and not being objective. There's things that could change, and there's room for feedback, the devs are actually replying to user comments and trying to come up with a model that people like, it will likely fail because this game is extremely niche, but just barging in to an already semi dead game to spit on it and shit all over it's good qualities is kinda lame my man. Specially if you can't even name a game that solves the problems you think the game has.
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>>180883129
It still is the games fault. If at least the combat was serviceable(good feedback, enemies that react to getting shot, recoil etc.) supported by item progression that made sense and a noticeable difference and the fluff(new clothing and cosmetics are easily and regularly found) was nicely varied i wouldn't have a problem with exploration and lore with story missions every 5 hours. But this game has nothing but story missions every 5 hours, if you're fast, and then you're back to grinding levels again.
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>>180883348
I've been running around with the same mossberg looking shotgun and set of 9mm semi autos for nearly 30 levels. I heard cap is 50 so i really have no idea when that new gear is suddenly going to drop.
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>>180883141
Honestly what I thought when I first played this back in the time it released, is that it would be much better without the combat at all, just an itneractive 3d adventure with puzzles and occul themes, maybe you could only run when there's paranormal shit around, or be very limited in combat ability instead of a magical fairy that shoots lazers and all that, kinda like the actual cthulu pen and paper games.

But if it was that way the project would have been much smaller, and very likely to die in it's early stages. The online part gave the game validation to sell more shit, their fucking 10euro outfits kept the game alive once the monthly fee was removed, without the online part that would not have happened at all, we probably would only have half or less of what the current game is.

Honestly I'm even surprised this game exists, I don't know who in their right mind thought this would be a huge seller or take away a good chunk of the mmo market, it obviously was poorly coded, someone somewhere in the team does love their conspiracy shit and made a great job building up the plot, but at the same time a lot of people were just getting paid to get their job done and didn't give a fuck about some things being actually fun or not, and we ended up with this generic mess of classes, underwhelming pvp, clunky animations, in a very carefuly tailored world, with charismatic characters, unique lore, and a weird community of older people who just didn't fit in other mmos who knows why.
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>>180883308
You're missing the point, nobody said shit about any other MMO so why the fuck are you trying to draw comparison to them by copping out with "hehe name another MMO that does or doesn't do X xDDDD". It is fucking retarded.
>>180883521
>You
I'm not even involved in the argument, I'm just tired of seeing the same shit everywhere I look. I'm not even shitting on SWL; I like it and TSW both for the story and any MMO with a decent story/world building for that matter.

But since you asked and as an example: The combat is hot fucking garbage and uninspired as is the PvP. BDO for instance is leagues better in this aspect but I'm not going to go around bringing it up in comparison to SWL because it doesn't solve or fix shit in SWL, the game I'm fucking playing. It's not about "other games", it's about this one and ironing out the issues it has, not trying to cop out with shitty excuses and passing the buck to other MMOs.
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>>180883308

I'm not either of those two guys that seem to be on this conversation thread and even I can't understand what the hell you're trying to prove.
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>>180884342
but then what do you expect people to do?
>"x anon" complains: hur this game is always the same, I kill shit, and then I collect the reward, it should be so much more than that! there's like another 50 successful mmos in the market that do the same, but I WANT MORE, I DESERVE THE PERFECT GAME, because this one is shit! WHY WASN'T THIS ONE MADE LIKE I WANT! REEEEEEEEE
>"y anon" replies: yeah anon, it's always the same game, everything is horrible worst game ever, I wish I never played it and I hope the servers burn this instant and their devs get envelopes filled with anthrax. We should never ever bump this thread again since it's horrible!

I mean, yeah I can just, not reply. But obviously after playing mmos 12 years if I'm here is because I like it and I think the anon is having some expectations that just aren't realistic.

I played BDO for 3 months, yeah the combat is much better, but come on go play it for 2 days non stop and tell me it's any different than this, it's not. Hell 95% of the quests there don't even give XP, you literally all can do to progress is stand in one spot and kill monsters for hours, forever. It's beautiful, but that's all it is, pop up everywhere, desyncing out the ass, all the mobs are retarded and copy pasted.

It's just stupid that talking about the good qualities of a game is instantly labeled as droning, and every time someone makes a thread about something they like it's a shill, effing grow up, people have opinions. If your solutions to the game require to change everything it's just wishful and unrealistic thinking, hoping the devs will change the current combat for BDO combat... trust me it would get boring just as fast, I have a 59 character there with good gear, and if I'm playing this instead it's because BDO is way way more shallow and uninteresting, also stupidly RNG centric.
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Im still downloading this game, what is this general's clan or guild name?
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>>180885753
Okay, >>180876415 here. My character is lv28 and looks EXACTLY like lv1. The same weapons, the same cosmetic gear, my numbers are bigger, i'm using different abilities but that's it. That is a cardinal sin for any mmo. Providing the players with a noticeable sense of progression, the classic carrot on a stick, is what keeps them coming back. Never asked for the perfect game but if your game is 80% combat that combat needs to be at least serviceable. I'd have no problem if the game had no combat at all, it would be much shorter but i'd rather have a great 20 hour experience than a terrible 100 hour grindfest. Visually and atmospherically the game is some of the best i've ever seen but it's horribly paced and the combat is dogshit. Reminds me of VTMB, just that game didn't have 80% padding.
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>>180887382
Yes you're 100% right, that's what I been saying all along, if combat was removed altogether and replaced with idk mini games, or something, this game would be so much better. Heck give me VATS combat for all I care.

But obviously it came at a time when no one was daring to stray from the tab>target model, even if you could make something better you risked losing customers because they were used to that for so long.

And now trying to revamp it, they're extremely limited by the engine capabilities, and I don't think they had room for much improvement, or funds at all. This is blatantly a last try to turn all they can into microtransactions and milk the shit out of it before they shut it down.

But I'm still playing it because the content I couldn't do in the normal version is now free, I don't have to spend like a hundred+ euros on issues. The combat is marginally better, but better enough to not want to touch the original ever again. And yes VTMB was a stupidly good alternative with a similar narrative, sadly incredibly bugged as well and the community ad to save it just for it to be fully functional, because same issue, much smaller project, less resources, not enough quality testing I guess.
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Played through most of Kingsmouth for the umpteenth time and I'm just really not feeling it after still really enjoying the original for almost 400 hours. Looks and plays like a cash grab, right up to being able to click twice to insert money for the premium currency.

I love the IP and hope it succeeds, but man Funcom is so wildly incompetent at everything they do.
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>>180874207
Jews have control over the western civilization and wishing for them to be destroyed is chaotic as fuck. Same thing goes with happening threads.
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>>180892608
The Illuminati are basically The Cathedral, but it's better to have earthly masters than let it all fall to demons or some other equally as bad shit.
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Is there a way to change m name or at least my nickname that pops up?
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Played SWL for a while after playing some of original TSW and fuck, I'm sad. Really sad that such content is wasted on a fucking sub-par mmo. I love this setting, I love characters and clever Investigation missions, but everything else is ruining any kind of immersion.
So hard to get rid of a feeling that everything that you do doesn't make a difference in this game, since even fucking boulders, that you push down on holes, magically get back up without even hitting a ground.

You can't even make a good singleplayer game out of it just by simply cutting out MMO stuff. You need to record more dialogs, add cutscenes, change pacing properly, without simply putting "GO LEVEL UP" notification, like they did in SWL. Too much work and money for Funcom.

I was hoping that SWL will do everything better, but it was simply a f2p patch that wiped all characters people had. Fuck, this is so disappointing.
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List of changes which should (but probably won't be) implemented to improve SWL:
1. Remove ability to purchase AP/SP with Aurum.

2. Halve unlocking weapon costs OR cause one purchase to unlock BOTH tabs of a single weapon.

3. Make combat more difficult, preferrably by increasing both your ability to dodge with a larger stamina gauge and having more aoe/stun moves for monsters to use which requires you to move. They went way overboard with the combat nerfing.

4. Remove restrictions on direct trading; everyone should be able to trade at any time. Real money trafficking is not an excuse.

5. Add a vendor somewhere in the Templar/Illuminati/Dragon hubs, as well as somewhere in the big tree, which sells level 1 weapons.

6. Implement proper weapons testing in the training place of the three factions which allows you to swap between any weapons and any skill set to try them out, with no cooldowns or restrictions. Of course, this is strictly limited to the training place like it was in TSW.

7. Remove the 'key' system for dungeon loot. However, since I know this will never happen, a more reasonable solution is to let one key count for every box you open in a dungeon. 1 dungeon = 1 key used, regardless of the amount of bosses and loot boxes that drop.

8. Heavily nerf the cache drop rate. Additionally, implement a way to purchase keys via in-game currency at a high price. I'm thinking 15k marks of favor per key.

9. Remove the level lock on quests. This was not present in TSW, and there is no reason for it. Players who cannot handle it at lower levels will fuck off to level off other things, whereas skilled players with good gameplay and proper skill sets will be rewarded for their skill.

10. Remove the 'class choice' at character creation. Instead, implement a system in which you choose your two starting weapons (in any combination, although you may wish to add suggestions for new players, but we should not be RESTRICTED to your suggestions).

Feel free to add more.
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>>180895054

Removing level lock on quests is probably the biggest "yes" on your list. This is fucking dumb and it only serves to make the levelling process a fucking chore.

In the old TSW I could toss on an efficient build and get from kingsmouth to kaidan in a day, I've been in KM for several hours so far and I'm still fucking nowhere
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>>180895054
I thought of some more.

11. Remove ability to purchase weapon/gear upgrade materials with Aurum.

12. Up the chance of getting a piece of gear or weapon from dungeon bosses and lower the chance of getting random upgrade materials. It keeps reminding me of artifact power from WoW and it's triggering me.

13. This one is a pipedream of mine since it involves mucking with the animations, but the combat feels really fucking floaty. I would like to see enemies flinch when I hit them, maybe a slight screen shake on a big crit. Also the combat animations are generally ass.

14. This one is not something which should be implemented, but rather something to be avoided: DO NOT PUT THE GOD DAMN AEGIS SYSTEM BACK IN THE GAME WHEN YOU COME OUT WITH TOKYO.

15. Buff Blade weapons.
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>>180895054
removing level lock is the one that matters most
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>>180896649
Yep. Was a final straw for me.
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>>180896649
>>180896969
>Hitting level 14 is hard.
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>>180897710
It's not about level 14, it's about unnecessary restrictions.
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>>180897710
>>180897812

This. I don't want to have to scrounge for every single "kill 15 zombies" quest in the game to get to the next part, I've already played this fucking game.
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>Hit level 10
>Obviously gotta try Polaris
>Open chests
>EXP ITEMx6
What the fuck is up with these drop rates?
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>>180896093
what is the AEGIS and why does everyone hate it?
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>>180897812
Every MMO has a level restriction in place at some point for question or dungeons.
>>180897996
The break from the main line to getting to 14 if you're not already is like 30 minutes of time dude. 20 if you just skip the cutscenes.
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>>180898210
>Every MMO has a level restriction in place at some point for question or dungeons.
TSW didn't have it, it just told you that it'll be hard as balls for you. They've added this shit in SWL to make it more streamlined and it only makes things worse, since you could easily level up while playing story missions or just make a decision to go back if it was hard for you.
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>>180898431
>TSW didn't have it, it just told you that it'll be hard as balls for you.
That is an effective restriction because you cannot actually feasibly do the upper tier quests now can you? No, you can't. Same thing.
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>>180898549
>Same thing.
No it's not. Before it was possible to play them and complete if you knew your ways around. Now game just tells you to fuck off.
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>>180898549
>cannot actually feasibly do the upper tier quests
but you could, you just had to git gud
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>>180898169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFADf3CW8zI
Relevant
But more serious answer: AEGIS system works like you've got three different damage types and three different shield types, you can only equip two damage types at once and the damage you did to AEGIS shields was laughably low. Plus it required you to do completely different builds than before and was introduced in Kaidan, Tokyo.
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>>180898958
The completely different builds thing is what got me. Since the damage on AEGIS was in single digits sometimes you couldnt' possibly do a leech build because you'd only be getting back 1-2 hp at a time.
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>>180898169
It was complete cancer
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>>180898169

Aegis was a system that made it so that in order to do damage to enemies in tokyo and beyond, you had to break their shields. In order to do aegis damage, you needed an aegis capacitor equipped of the same type that the enemy had, and the capacitor would only convert something like 8% of your damage into aegis damage in the beginning, and whenever you swapped which capacitor you had equipped it would lock your skills for several seconds.

So basically, your dps dropped by 90% and enemies with multiple shields took fucking forever to kill. It got smoother as you levelled, but upgrading your capacitors was only possible through stupid grindpaths that took fucking forever, and the 2.0 - 3.0 grind (when measured) would literally take months of dungeon grinding just to gain a couple extra percentages of damage that you would ALREADY DEAL if it wasnt for the shield. Oh, and you had 3 capacitors for each weapon and 3 shields, so 9 capacitors to level roughly 30 times each.

tl;dr it was dumb.
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>>180893510
It's a shell of it's former self and the reviews are starting to reflect that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiEKJ0_K9nY
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>>180900082
And you needed all three because there were enemies that had multiple shield types on top of their regular hit points.

I hope they just turf it and don't implement it like they eventually did with needing those tokens from the Council of Venice's matrix simulator.
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>>180901012
and here I thought Black Desert was P2W... jesus christ. at least BDO basically sums up to a $15 optional monthly subscription fee after a $10 entry fee
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>>180901012
What a shame.

What are the chances that after Funcom will go under somebody will buy TSW and make a proper action-adventure RPG game, again?
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>>180901012
Some of the complains, involving sprint speed, inventory space etc. were stuff you had to pay for in the OG TSW to begin with. Though, I s'pose those were just Pax Romana, but either way it's not some sudden addition.
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>Have to pay to trade, and even then can only trade with other patrons
>Have to buy keys to get loot from dnugeons
>Have to buy new weapon tabs or grind for them which takes days and the cost increases with every purchase
>No way to test weapons to see if you like them before purchase
>Change the combat system to have none of the depth, none of the synergy and a whole set of new gimmicks/drawbacks that you have to play around or die
>Add level restrictions to quests when there were none before
>3 Of the 4 pvp zones aren't there
>All of Kaidan, several expansions worth of content missing
>Combat is now forced T targetting to give the illusion of a TPS but because there's no projectiles and the combat mechanically didn't change it's effectively still tab targetted combat only now you have to face your target or get spammed with "NO AVAILABLE TARGET IN RANGE" which is guaranteed to happen since all melee enemies will try to run behind you automatically before attacking
>Weapon passives are skill-exclusive so there is literally no synergy between weapons and using two weapons is clunky as fuck when it wasn't previously
>Stab loyal playerbase in the back after screwing them for years
>Give these same disgruntled players early access to the game so they can fill the internet with their salt before anyone else gets their hands on the game

Funcom is stupid on a level that is borderline experimental, it's like they intentionally chose to make every wrong decision possible. Fucking shame too since I really wanted TSW to make a comeback. Leave it to Funcom though.

My wildest pipe dream is that maybe this game will get people interested in TSW and when they finally say "fuck you" to all the nickle and diming maybe they'll buy the old TSW and we'll get some life on the servers. Just a wild dream, though.
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>>180903434
Sure. There's lots of stuff that you can buy in TSWL that was on sale in TSW classic.

It's been a while, though, but can you get more than 10K Pax in a day?
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>>180901012
don't care
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I'm only downloading it to look at all my old costumes and shit.
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>>180903695

You can make millions in a day. Without trading on the auction house it'd be slower, but you can get a good 300k - 400k per hour just farming the airport and selling the drops to a vendor. Easilly 1-2m per hour if you're selling signets/mats on the AH.
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>>180903695
>It's been a while, though, but can you get more than 10K Pax in a day?
Yes, but the more upper tier prices reflected that also. I also remember AP/SP being available for real money in OG TSW, so that's not a new complaint either.
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>>180903671

>My wildest pipe dream is that maybe this game will get people interested in TSW and when they finally say "fuck you" to all the nickle and diming maybe they'll buy the old TSW and we'll get some life on the servers. Just a wild dream, though.

Nevermind, forgot you cant buy it anymore
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>>180904038
They are not relaunching it to suit your specific individual needs. Can't please everyone.

Im really happy that its getting the attention it deserves and that people are actually playing it.

Combat/skill tree was way too complicated and scared all the normies away.

>complaining about a company spending thousands of hours producing a game you CAN DOWNLOAD AND PLAY FOR FREE

Jesus Christ
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>>180904443
>complaining about a company spending thousands of hours producing a game you CAN DOWNLOAD AND PLAY FOR FREE
Considering that they just took a game that people were paying money for and slapped some paywalls and stupid weapon gimmicks, it wasn't that much.
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>>180882949
>>180873221
Bumpers.
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Rip TSW, you will be missed. Honestly, i dont like these new changes. This new targeting system is bad. It feels like my character do not listen to my commands at all.
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>>180898549
You absolutely could by changing builds or gathering materials that would help you, or through trial and error discover the easiest path to victory. Gaining high ground or funneling mobs ectect. Just because it's hard does not mean it's impossible. I know for a fact it isnt because iv done it. Several times in TSW I'd go and do quest that were very hard for me but with determination preparation and proper planning you can complete them.
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>>180904682
It was a dead game that never recouped the money they spent on developing it. It is also criminally underrated, and its a great strategy to make the most of the situation, while doing a great thing for the community.

I know you are a bitter cunt for the 30 dollars you spent on something you probably invested thousands of hours in (and still complain about the price), but hundreds of thousands of people who never played TSW before will get to enjoy the lore and quests now.
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>>180895054
>9. Remove the level lock on quests. This was not present in TSW, and there is no reason for it. Players who cannot handle it at lower levels will fuck off to level off other things, whereas skilled players with good gameplay and proper skill sets will be rewarded for their skill.


I just can't understand why this changed in the first place. I cannot think of anyone ever complaining that this should be implemented.
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>>180904938
They fucked up from the get go by making TSW subscription based, IMO. And nowadays it's just not worth making MMO, because Blizzard, WoW and the endless legion of Blizzdrones whose entire life goal is to shittalk anything that's not by Blizzard. I'm fairly sure the FF MMO rides on the coattails of the series name alone.
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>>180904938
How am I being a bitter cunt (I apologize for causing this confusion, I'm not >>180904109 guy, but I mostly agree with him) if I don't like changes they've made to a game? These changes make game play arguably worse than before and they can scare people off. And since those people haven't paid shit, they probably will just drop it. Especially when there are other f2p games with better gameplay and monetization.
Only strong point SWL has is story and you have to go through a lot of bullshit to get to it.
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If I want to play with friends, should we all be the same faction? Or does it not matter?
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>>180904938

I see your point - Funcom is perfect in all forms, they can do no wrong, this relaunch is immaculate and anyone who complains simply must be a bitter virgin who wears fedoras and plays their nintendo switch in public
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>>180904938

>hundreds of thousands of people who never played TSW before will get to enjoy the lore and quests now
>hundreds of thousands of people

I think you're overestimating this relaunch
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>>180905507
pretty much, at least I dont see why anyone is complaining about a company that needs to make money to survive is releasing a F2P game and everyone is complaining about how the game doesn't fix THEIR SPECIFIC GRIPE.

Dont like it? Dont play it. And stop shitting up the boards.
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>>180904443
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>>180905657
>everyone is complaining about how the game doesn't fix THEIR SPECIFIC GRIPE
Everyone is complaining that THEIR "FIXES" MADE GAME PLAY WORSE.
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>Chat setting aren't saved so I have to rejoin chat channel every time I log in.
Also how many people are in the vidya chat?
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>>180905657

>their specific gripe

You're pretending that I've got some wildly niche complaint that only a weirdo would complain about to make your point, which is completely dishonest. No one wrote a 3 novel essay on why they shouldn't have changed the sound effects for cowboy boots, people are complaining about core design choices that make the game a fucking chore to play when it wasn't before, changes to the game that made it objectively worse.

Sure, things have to change to enable the free to play model, but this is mobile phone game tier.
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>>180905335
Didn't matter in original so doubtful it will matter here.
You can't do main-story missions in groups anyway.
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>>180905827
there is a vidya chat?
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>>180905827
You need to make an auto_login script
Basically: make a Scripts folder in the game folder, make a file via note pad (no file extension needed iirc) and put:
delay 5000
/chat join vidya

That's it
https://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?67479-Custom-Chat-Auto-Login
More info there, I didn't need to do auto_teleport script
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>>180897710
The way it's said is retarded. Wasn't on the original "reach a better rank in your faction" or something? At least that made sense lorewise, you'd need more authorisation to go through some parts.
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This is going to sound like a weird question but,
was it possible to originally purchase The Secret World without creating an account?
Here's my issue: I bought The Secret World a long ass time ago, and now that it's getting rebooted and I have free time on my hands, I want to start it up. I normally keep all my old passwords on a list hidden in my room, but it didn't have anything for TSW, so naturally I headed over to the website and did the ol' 'can't remember my password' button, but I've tried multiple times now and have gotten no E-mails. I know that Funcom has my E-mail because they sent me ads for SWL recently and I have a really old Email that shows my original purchase of the game. However, back then, I never had time to play it, so I never made any characters. So now I'm just wondering if I ever made an account at all, since I never played the original TSW, but it feels like I might have because I bought TSW way back when and Funcom does have my Email.
The only solutions I can come up with right now are either that is was originally somehow possible to purchase the game without creating an account or Funcom's password recollection services are currently down.
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>>180904782
Fuck, the end of this quest got me.
The scenarist is ruthless.
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For now I don't like the change, combat doesn't feel better, only the hp reduction help, itemization sucks, dungeon reward are awful and the synergy are gone making the game retardproof.
I will play until I finish the academy because I loved that part in classic.
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about how many MoF will I need to turn in the exchange for 2000 aurum? only thing I want in the game is that snake charmer slut outfit.

Unless there's something sluttier that I'm unaware of. Actually I'd like something that shows more booty but is as revealing as snake charmer on the front.
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>>180909289
Nevermind, I just managed to figure it out luckily.
I DID have an old account, but to retrieve it I had to go back and find TSW old login page, which was hell because of how hard they're pushing everyone to move to Legends.
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>>180909701
Mankini is only for men, move along, wench.
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>>180910923
Is that in the regular cash shop? or is it some sort of limited hard to get thing?

I have a male char alt... but I really like the name on my girl, I don't want to reroll either...
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>>180909701
>erpfag
Leave.
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>>180910923
Sluts of all kinds should be welcome.
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Where/when do you get the codes from the ARG?
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>>180911287
Who says I erp? I like fapping to my characters but text sexing is stupid. And also like the compliments from other players, they treat you better when your character is attractive. You can also pretend to be a naive girl that just started playing, but I'm not up for that shit anymore, I've hooked up with too many broke losers already.
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>>180911342
can I still get those? how do I do it?
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>>180911404
>dressing like a slut is considered attractive
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>>180911404
>a naive girl that just started playing
>dresses more shamefully than a hooker
10/10 rp
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Where did they move the weapons vendors? I found the purple premium weapons vendor in that stupid marketplace but i have no idea where i can get regular weapons from.
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what's the best faction?
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>>180911608
It is to many people. Including myself.
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>>180912146
Black Watchmen

But in all seriousness, Templars, deus vult.
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>>180912146
I'd say Illuminatis. The whole undercover cynical corporate is really fitting with the setting.
And Geary is a best
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>>180910923
bleh just saw that it was just a joke outfit and was removed from the cash shop after april's fools
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>>180911342
>>180911581
Linked in OP
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So, wich weapon would you say is the most fun to play with? I was Blade/AR on the original game but as far as i can see Blade doesn't seem really fun.
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>>180912498
I can only get 1 weapon? or I have to do everything again for every weapon and submit a different email?
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>>180912953
The rewards page indicates you get all 9 weapons. But better safe than sorry, I guess?
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>>180912997
Looked like we were supposed to only chose one. Also, what's up with that weird energy puzzle?
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so MoF are per character... but Is aurum bound to character too? or can I sell my MoF from alts for aurum and feed that to my main?
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>>180912498
Can't get past 1st puzzle, it says that second puzzle is not ready and that's it. How the hell can I complete it?
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>Hell Raised.
>Get to Hardwired Fleshtank.
>Tank literally does not know how to dance around platform to avoid fire and dies a million times.
>Makes excuses instead of getting good.
>Switch weapons on last pull and just solo the last 25K or so myself after he dies.
Guess I'll be soloing dungeons from now on.
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Is there a way to make it so I can hold LMB instead of constantly clicking it in combat?
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>>180887382
>The same weapons, the same cosmetic gear, my numbers are bigger, i'm using different abilities but that's it. That is a cardinal sin for any mmo.
The worst part is that the old TSW already had a similar system at the endgame, where once you got Q10 items, you would start upgrading them to 10.1, 10.2, etc. A lot of people hated that grinding system and wanted it gone.

What did Funcom do? Took the same fucking system and stretched it all over the game instead. Fucking terrible.
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>>180895054
>5. Add a vendor somewhere in the Templar/Illuminati/Dragon hubs, as well as somewhere in the big tree, which sells level 1 weapons.
They can't do that, because it would conflict with their new weapon upgrade grind. They want you to waste your time trying to find level 1 trash to upgrade your existing weapons.
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>>180909160
The game just got dumbed down for F2P, of course it wasn't going to make an indirect statement.
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bee
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>white lady got demoted to tutorial guide
will anti-oldgod shitters ever recover
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Making build is way ahrder now. You can't choose your main attack because you have to pick one from your primary weapon and since half the passive only work with one skill it's complicated to find good synergy.
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>>180917458
There is no synergy.

They totally removed it because normies are apparently incapable of such basic intellectual functioning.

RIP Secret World
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>can't recreate old TSW character
>no modern prometheus or ockham's razor so you have to recreate the character if you don't like it
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Is carie Killian the women from the park ? If so I never realize she used to leave in the black house and killed herself in the bathroom.
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>>180913997
They can very easily set the 'starter' weapons to not be usable in the upgrade system.
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What weapons are the most fun now? Any particularly good for soloing?
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What's the required level for quests around the Junkyard?
How far do levels go?
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How many f2p scrubs are needed to raid Susie?
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Another maintenance.
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>>180927872
Tried solo at level 3-4 and was getting reckt, fled and came back when another player engaged her and we downed her without much difficulty. You can mostly kitt her using the counter.
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Man, why does the main damage dealing ability of the shotgun have to have such a retarded animation?
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>>180928790
The firearm handling animations in general are really bad. When using pistols, the basic attack has you fire it sideways like a gangbanger, and the full auto on AR has the character do this nonsensical side to side motion, as if it took the entire upper body to rotate your gun.
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>>180930713
You mean in a reference to Wanted the movie?
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>>180931064
They swipe the gun in Wanted. The basic attack (aka not the one that hits multiple enemies) is just simply firing the gun like you're straight from the ghetto.
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>>180927658
idk should be in the window where you accept the mission.

50 is max lvl
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>>180932106
Yeah but I don't want to go there for nothing with that shitty sprint 1.
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>>180932343
Just upgrade it dude.
Sprint upgrades>inventory upgrades
I am still kinda mad that Failcom didn't carry over any of my cash shop inventory increases to SWL
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What's the point of the pip system? People are just going to ignore non-three pip items and use them for upgrading.
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>>180932432
This. Upgraded my sprint and my inventory a lot, was pretty bummed out when realising that it wasn't transfered.
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>>180934672
at least if you bought the Frankenchopper you get a speed demon bike that also has a nitor boost (but not the max sprint skill that came with it in TSW)
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>>180887382
With the removal of the ability wheel and weapon synergy, you pretty much hit your peak weapon performance by level 20, no new skills, just boring passive stat boosts; combine that with almost zero cosmetic changes and you have a recipe for long term failure; people will ride the fun train the act 1, but after blue mountain the player base will tank
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>>180934954
Cosmetic changes are on their way, according to Funcom. Weapon skins will become a part of the dressing room.

As for the same abilities, I think they have also mentioned that new abilities and entirely new weapons are not off the table either.

How much of this is just talk will remain to be seen, I guess.
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Fuck, should have got the agartha sprint before transfering. My char is bee-themed, and now there is no way to get something similar.
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>>180934954
If you are correct, oh wow, they managed to keep peple playing for 1 more zone than in the original game (talking pre-nerf, idk when most ppl quit after that). Plus they alienated a good part of their player base. I don't get why weapon skins aren't in anymore.
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>>180934780
Nope, i wasn't playing much anymore by the tlme mounts appeared.
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>current year
>have to wait one hour to download 60 MB
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Found a trinket that allow me to teleport 8 meters behind me with a 50sec cd on some lv4 zombies.
Seems surprisingly good, no?
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>>180935637
The gadgets are mostly pretty good. I have one that deals a little damage and inflicts a three second stun to go with it. Basically a taser.
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Played the original thing a ton, but I was never clear on what exactly they were changing with this. It's just the same game with a slightly improved engine and all the shit, right? Maybe I can get my friends into it now.

Or remake my old templar as an illuminati like she always should have been, but who knows.
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Man was it a mistake to join Illuminati. I'd rather shoot the faction bitch than get any more emails from her.
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>>180935425
Funcom servers.
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>>180935815
they revamped the whole combat system, but it's not impressive and just added some gimmick to every weapon, just more engaging than the garbage it had before.

World and quests are pretty much the same, they got tweaked a tiny bit but nothing significant, they added level restrictions to quests for who knows what reason tho.

Yes the free model is there to motivate people to try it out, you don't really need to spend money on it, but you're gonna get cucked for quite a bit of time, you need to do daily shit like a good boy if you want to have access to basic quality of life stuff and unlock weapons if you didn't link your old tsw account.
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>>180935815
>with a slightly improved engine
No.
They changed combat to basically always force the reticule mode the old game had, reduced the weapons skills, removed synergies between weapons. Your char has actual levels now. To upgrade sprint and inventory size and to use more than your 2 starter weapons (if you didnt transfer from tSW) you need to spend the new Mark of Favor currency which you can only get from daily challenges. At least in TSW you got PAX from normal missions that could be used to upgrade bag space and sprint, even buy weapons from vendors which is now no longer possible. I do hope for the best, but I fear the worst for the game.
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>have to spend an additional 30 minutes after the downtime in order to download
Thanks Funco
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>>180936278
That sucks, but honestly, the combat was the worst part of the game before. As long as I can still roll around reading lore and trying to cartwheel into the Black House's front door, I'm cool.
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>>180936364
Yeah, the grind thing sounds a bit shitty, but not insurmountable. I'll have to check for myself if it fucks up the game for me at all considering all I ever did was roll around grinding quests and hanging out with some folks before.
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https://secretworldlegends.com/news/hotfix-june-27/
>estimate the Marketplace to be back online tomorrow (June 28th)

Still unable to auction off mismatched 1pip weapons/amulets, will have to glue them for 100exp instead of auctioning off again. Thanks Funcom.
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>>180936398
Yes that's the quirk of this version all content is free, they cock block progression a bit and add some inconveniences here and there to promote you buying patron or aurum, but overall you can get a ton of hours out of it if you can ignore the microtransactions and limits on dungeon loot stuff like that.

The sooner the better, so you can start farming MoF asap.
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>>180932432
>>180934672
Don't you need to pay real money for that?
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>61mb patch
>dl speed 20kb/s
>1 hour patch

At some point i'm going to have to give up playing this.
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>>180936386
>>180936725
>Implying you'll be able to get in once patch downloads instead of disconnects for another hour.
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>>180936710
PAst some point I think you might, the first upgrades only cost the MoF you get from daily challenges though.
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>>180936209
Hello, BraveDude8_1
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>>180937276
Hello, fellow Redditor

>tfw it still isn't fucking done
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>>180937437
>tfw authenticating with the character server
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>>180935165
> I don't get why weapon skins aren't in anymore.
Wait, are you saying that there are no other weapon models in the game?
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>>180938134
There probably are, waht I meant is that there definitely are NO weapon casting toolkits that let you transfer sins at this point.
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>>180938134
There are. What he means is that transmog isn't a thing. Yet.
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keeps getting disconnected from territory manager when trying to login

fml
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>>180938682
I got past that, now I am stuck at "Logging in character"
Between crap like this, and the Aurum exchange disaster, I wonder if this is the end of (T)SW(L) and Funcom?
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Why is this pretty much the only MMO (it still very much is that, no matter how they try to rebrand it) with a contemporary theme?
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so is any one able to log in or is it still ded?
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>>180938903
This isn't really Funcom's fault, though. They couldn't have anticipated that people would use an exploit to flood the market with currencies, and in taking away all the illicitly gained aurum, they have to make sure they do not take away any that was actually purchased, which takes a lot of time.

If you want someone to blame, blame those who exploited the system.
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>>180938993
Because you'll eventually be forced to inject RL politics and inevitably piss people off. TSW can dodge it because it's, well, about the secret world that controls our real world.

>>180939187
I'll blame both, tyvm.
Not to mention there was no tax (like every other MMO in existence) on trading.
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why do we play TSW, just to suffer?
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>>180939774
for the bees anon.
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>>180939774
The skills I've lost, the synergies I've lost ...
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>>180939774
Because it's the only MMO with an interesting settings and not the classic fantasy crap. Also it does horror and references to movies and books really well.
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>>180939774
Let's be honest here, if you're not into shooters or MOBAs, your online options are very few and far between. Although this new nickel and dime scheme from Funcom worthy of a mobile game does rustle my jimmies, yes.
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>Able to trade just fine with friend in closed beta
>Now cant trade unless I pay for it
W h y
h
y
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>>180939307
There's a real money "tax" on trading, though. You need to be a patron to trade directly with another player. Otherwise you have to use the marketplace.
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>>180940193
>W h y
>h
>y
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>>180940037
Fucking this. I'm sick to death of the same old shit. TSW is about the only mmo I've enjoyed just doing the quests in and aren't rushing to endgame.
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>>180935108
>Cosmetic changes are on their way, according to Funcom. Weapon skins will become a part of the dressing room.
LINK?!
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>>180939307
>Because you'll eventually be forced to inject RL politics and inevitably piss people off

That's not really, true. Nothing is forcing you to make any political statements.

This hypothetical game could be about law enforcement and criminals, in a non-descript city. Kind of like APB, except not shit.
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>>180940037
>>180940557
I'd fucking kill for another MMO that mixes real life with urban legends and such. I'd kill myself if I had to play another game that starts in grass lands and i save elf people by collecting 6 animal hides.
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Anyone actually ingame?
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>>180940562

APB with /v/ was pretty fun desu. It's a shame driving had 3 seconds of lag and hackers ran rampant.
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>>180940716
yeah
Once you manage to actually log into a char, it runs fine.
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>>180940787
Pretty much anything can be fun with the right group of people. The true test of a game's quality is whether or not you enjoy playing it alone.
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>>180936710
I think i paid a few "money" (i was a patron so i used the credits they gave us each month) for the bags i think but the sprints and first bag upgrades were bought with ingame currency.
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>>180936710
First and second sprint upgrades are 1 and 2 days worth of daily currency respectively.
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>>180936713
>triggered
>>180938993
>>180939307
Some Lost-like game in a contemporary settings were boats/planes get lost in a Bermuda Triangle-like zone and try to build back a civilisation on a few islands and fight back the weird shit that live nearby would be cool.
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>>180939946
Our wisdom flows so sweet.
Taste and see.
I'll forever be mad that i didn't buy the t-shirt when it was avalaible
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>>180941407
where can you go to spend that stuff outside of opening other weapons?
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>>180941612
i miss yesterday morning's bee-pun filled general chat.
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1 second gcd was a mistake

It feels especially jarring with the pistols
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>>180936364
The daily grind is annoying but then again it's that the grind kind of just changed form.
You used to grind a shit ton for BB to buy end game gear, now they kind of spread the grind more evenly, but at least it comes relatively organically just from playing the game as you'd normally do.
Since combat got way dumbed down doing the story as f2p should not be an issue for anyone.
To be honest I haven't yet encountered the f2p model fucking me over, but it's visible where they're trying to cash in. The dungeon loot system is retarded.
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>>180935108
>and entirely new weapons
What's the point though? Weapons don't synergize anymore. They are not even that distinct from one another when it comes to skills, it's just the stupid gauge mechanics that make them differ.
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>>180902918
Nil, on the latter.
Funcom might well keel over. They were already once on the brink of bankruptcy and honestly SWL is just reanimating an already dead corpse.
Conan Exiles apparently gave them a boost where they could still keep operating but if SWL does not give them profit they're probably going down since developing a new title would be too expensive, hence why they did this, instead of keeping TSW and doind something new.
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Is this game not ded now? I actually bought it way back when. Has the combat been improved any?
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>>180759809
Oh snap? Never heard of this Legends thing, but SW was pretty fun last year?

Thanks, OP! :3
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>>180944629
>What's the point of new weapons if they do not synergize with existing weapons?

Variety? That's like asking what's the point of adding new story content if it isn't related to a specific bit of story content already in the game.
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>>180945150
Read the thread. Not Secret World. Relaunched f2p version.
Combat is vastly different but hardly an improvement. 'Streamlined' in nice terms, dumbed down on more realistic ones.
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anyone else getting the "driver out of date" pop up from the launcher? i'm on the latest 17.6.2 driver from radeon, and it's telling me i'm out of date?
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>The weapon codes still aren't out

>>180949067
It doesn't really affect anything, just a minor annoyance
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Maaaaan i hate The Savage Coast.
It gives me the hibigeebies.
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>yfw this game wouldve been perfect if it had good combat, end game content and non-shit character models
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>>180953252
The character models are fine.
The combat is fine.
The end game is not there since they keep adding DLC.
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>>180953252
I'm sad that it's most likely going down with a whimper but at least I had a ton of fun with the original, even though we did not, and likely won't, get an ending to the story.
This isn't really an improvement so I probably won't have the patience to put up with the different-but-still-kind-of-same watered down combat/build system and f2p bullshit to go through the story again.
I'll reconsider if they ever do indeed come out with continuation to Tokyo.
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>>180760013
why is the audio in this game so low? the fuck...
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>>180953720
>The combat is fine
You are the most disingenuous little fuck, nobody can believe this combat system is fine, it barely scrapes the requirements of being a combat system.
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>>180945150
Well its got people running around so i guess its not dead
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>not dual wielding
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what do i do when my launcher has the fatal error: failed to update patcher?
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>>180954195
This.
Original wasn't great but goddamn it was an MMORPG and for a game like that it was perfectly serviceable. It was about builds and strategies, not action.
Dated now? Sure fine, but this isn't the way either.

They really would have needed to work it from the ground up, not just slap the old reticule targeting mode as mandatory and removing tab-targeting.
Every fight I go through in SWL I miss the old system. Not even because it offered more variety on builds, but because there I didn't have to bother myself on keeping the crosshair on the enemy, because apparently that equates to 'skill' and 'action' and 'good game-feel'.
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>>180955112
I'm thinking about going back to blade just so I can spam hurricane without having to aim at this point. I'd probably fuck myself over by doing that though.
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Even for a new player who never played the original (a shame in hindsight), the combat is kinda boring. 2-4 shotgun blasts and everything's dead. I literally ran circles around one enemy and it never attacked because it couldn't spin around fast enough to face me.
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>>180955706
Old was nothing special but then again it didn't try to be particularly special about it either.
Biggest difference in combat, disregarding the difference in ability count and weapon synergies, is the readjustment of your strength vs the mobs.

TSW was relatively challenging for an mmorpg. You had to plan your build ahead already in the early game, but the abstruse mechanics and ability/skill wheel meant that some people hampered themselves, which meant either more challenging encounters because you went suboptimal, or grind.

Even if you went optimally winning a fight wasn't a given. Proper rotations of your build and synergies were required to be understood because mobs took way, way more time to kill than they do now. Every fight was potentially lethal.

I really wouldn't want this to sound like "us oldfags made through a way harder game, this is for f2p casual babbies", mostly because TSW was a faulty game on how frustratingly cheap some encounters were in a game that was meant to be played solo, but they really did away with any and all challenge, even the legitimate ones and not just the cheap, bullshit parts.

This is just different kind of boring. Now you spend a fraction of a time in combat compared to old, but you literally have no way of dying unless you actively want to, or go poke mobs that are several levels higher than you.
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>>180954974
Yeah... that bug has been around since TSW launch.
>But I swear it's a totally new game, stop being entitled just because you bought GM in TSW!
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Best pet ?
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>>180953720
>The combat is fine
The combat is literally the same as the reticle targeting from TSW. Which almost everyone who played TSW hated.

This relaunch is going to flop so fucking hard.
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oh hey there's a thread for this
i played through half of the first zone in the remake and then haven't logged in since
the combat's improved but it's not, i dunno, improved enough?
the AR system is neat though. dumb that you have to unlock separate weapons
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>>180957809
The weapon specific mechanics and way that passives interact with them is pretty gud, but the build limitations compared to TSW make me sad.
Also how tremendously ass using gtaoe feels. Fucking wildstar could get it right, there's no excuse for failing.
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>>180959707
I'm waiting to see how diverse builds can be when elite/nm dungeons come, TSW always had options for the leveling journey but end game was nothing but the same 5 or 6 builds.
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>>180960103
The same 5 or 6 core engines, sure, but there were a lot of small adjustments you could make to, say, AR healing. A lot of that was just 'which things does this dungeon need/which things does the rest of my party bring', but still.

That said why the FUCK couldn't I pick my starting two weapons directly, I don't give a shit about fists. Gimme pistols or blood.
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why is dragon so shit
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>>180961351
I like it. It started me off with a hot lesbo scene, so that's fun.
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>>180961351
Theyre an enigma. I would like to read the mission reports for them though.
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>>180957142
CUTE
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oh fuck we have a general
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>>180961520
The only thing enigmatic is whether funcom actually has any idea what they're doing with dragon or just claiming they do, because there's no real evidence either way
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>>180961617
Their handler did shot up from meh to good in Tokyo
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>>180961691
The most I ever did in tokyo was show up, talk to a couple nerds, run into aegis mobs, and then stop being in tokyo because I didn't own the episode that let you get aegis shit.
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Wait, what's this about weapons being unlocked if you linked from TSW? Because I hit the transfer shit button but still have to play a trillion black bullion to unlock new weapons.
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>>180962075

i didnt play much previously, but i did hit the transfer and i can use any weapon tree. do you have to spend currency otherwise? that kind of sucks.
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>>180962496
Figured it out, had to hit the transfer button from inside SWL too for it to count.
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I actually really like how the defensive targeting system works, for small groups, which i suppose is all TSW has. you just mouse scroll through party members to set it, and it'll fire off heals to that target whilst you carry on fighting normally with the reticule. this is really comfy and you don't have to be doing "the boring job" just because you are healing.
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>>180961915
The handler changes sometime during Tokyo
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>>180964975
This is one reason why AR healing is the best version of leech healing I've ever seen. The defensive/offensive target split is so much better than the system pretty much any other game uses for it.
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Is the Beaumont fight bugged? He just instantly wrecks me.
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>>180965786
Damn so many people praising AR, when I heard nothing but bad things before.

So AR is the best healing weapon for group content atm? what would be a good secondary for it in group content?
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I miss build synergies so much. It didn't have to be like this, Funcom, it didn't have to be this casual shit.
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at what level is it normal to leave kingsmouth?
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>>180969434
gitgud :DD
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>>180973375
Reminds me of that when I had to change to a cheese-leech AR build to beat that one genie boss in the pyramid during that one issue on TSW
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>>180971201
>So AR is the best healing weapon for group content atm?
No, in terms of raw throughput and ease of use blood and fist are both better and easier to get into. AR is just cooler.
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>>180971857
yeah but on the other hand i'm enjoying hitting snake eyes on pistols
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>>180964975

That's how it was before though, pick your heal target and wail on the boss, it was a good system. Only now you can't heal raids because selecting someone from another group requires you to go into mouse mode, click them, exit mouse mode THEN heal. I don't think they even considered healing groups of more than 3 people, it's an absolute mess.

And in the old TSW leech healing had proper build variety and rotations that made sense, not sure how this one will translate into the endgame.
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>>180979079
Y'know I hadn't thought about it, but the fact that there's no leeching grenade means that things won't be anywhere near as clean as they used to be. That elite that literally stops people from dying seems kinda busted though.
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>>180980089

if you have a rifle healer and a chaos tank, i'd imagine you'd have to work very hard to die.
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Has anyone made a 'talent calculator' type thing, i wanna fuck around with some build ideas
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Is anyone else just not feeling this limited hot-bar? It feels like I'm playing fucking dota, give me more skills.
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>>180981857
It's also pretty shitty how it's hard to emulate the TSW decks like OG Merc
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>>180981857
Eight abilities was limiting in wildstar. This is fucking six, and you're spending half of that on something that doesn't cost resources, a spender for your primary, and a spender for your secondary. With AR, you have to spend a fourth ability on a grenade or you hit yourself in the face for 15% max health every ten seconds. It's not ideal.
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>>180981857
Not a fan of it. That's why I stopped playing Neverwinter.
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Can blood tank anymore or is the reduced healing a no-no? The Absolution passive looks like it might make it work but I'm not sure.
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I hate Egypt.
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>>180985536
Egypt was always shit.
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Just returned to this game after a year of being away and it took me half an hour before I realized that I remade a character on the old servers. How do I update my client so that it creates characters on the Legends servers instead? This was a fresh download and installation from Steam but it says "The Secret World" instead of "The Secret World Legends."

I purchased this game about two years ago so that's adding to my confusion.
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>>180988513
DL it from the enw site. Make the transfer from the new site before creating a whole new account. Your old ids should work.
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>>180989124

Gotcha. I was pretty irritated when I realized that there's virtually no in-game notice that the Steam version hasn't been updated to Legends yet. I also don't understand why they still allow you to make new characters on a version of the game that's apparently no longer going to be supported.

I guess you can add this to the countless bumps that this relaunch is going through. Skimming through this thread, I'm not optimistic that I'm going to stick with Legends much longer than I did with the original.
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I picked up the original version during a steam sale a while back but never got all the way through kingsmouth, is there any benefit to me doing an account transfer?
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>>180989780
You'll unlock all the weapon skill trees without having to spend Marks of Favor on them.
You can put them towards sprints, inventory slots, or cosmetics instead.
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>>180989460
they say they're going to maintain the servers. we'll see how long that lasts.

I'm hoping that this goes the way of new coke and they just take some of the new ideas and put them back into tsw classic, but I know in my heart of hearts that it'll never happen.
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>>180981857
I agree. I find the number of skills allowed is stiflingly limited. I would feel much better if we could use 1-6 in addition to q, e and both mouse buttons.

Currently I'm blade pistol but literally none of my pistol stuff is even slotted. I wanted to try elemental but getting a weapon upgraded to my swords level is a pain in the nuts.
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Should I go full attack rating on both my chain/talisman or should I go with HP instead?
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>>180992726
It's wise to invest atleast something in HPs, because just protection won't be saving your ass.
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can i play the game with a controller? :3c
i'm downloading it right nyao~
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>>180995424
>:3c
>nyao~
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alright I just have to ask...is this game just not good?

I love the setting, I love the plot... but the grinding sucks, the quest repetitive, the online interactions minimal... the gameplay isn't even actiony
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>>180969434
You can stun with the flares, anon.
If anyone knows how to flag the mining helmet as unneeded so it can be deleted, please share how.
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>>181001501

It's a bug where you pick it up during the Ghost and the Darkness mission but it doesn't get properly flagged to be cleared when the mission is over.

Probably just have to file a petition for it. Throw it in you bank for now.
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>>181001501
Ah yes. The glorious undeleteable plot items. I had about a dozen of those on my TSW classic character, iirc.
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>>180950729
I heard on the official reddit that the codes won't go out until the 30th. :/
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So I have weapons unlocked from my character transfer, but where do I go to buy them now that the venice merchants don't hang out around Kingsmouth town anymore.
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The codes don't. Just wanted to post a screen cap of my latest exploit. Going for a completionist run just finished blue mountain. Just a heads up you can't get the meta achievement for Savage coast as infernal vibrations isn't currently in game.
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>>181005635
You don't buy them anymore. You have to go and do missions and hope to get the weapon you want from the bag.
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>>181005635
No I think you can get them from hubs but go for three stars which are only available as drops or market place. Best mods are energy and destruction.
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>>181005705
>>181005743
Thanks, lads.
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I'm just pushing buttons like a retard, though despite that I can survive getting fucked by enemies at least 3 levels higher than me. Is Punisher good for solo? Or do I have to build for it instead of just randomly pushing buttons?
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>Still can't break 500kbps on their shitty download client

And putting it on steam properly is too hard for them, right?
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>>181007676
i think the bottleneck is not the bandwidth, but rather that they download the thousands of files individually one by one, waiting for proper handshakes and establishing connections for each and every file
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Is there any word on auxiliary weapons? I miss my chainsaw.
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>>180983281
>With AR, you have to spend a fourth ability on a grenade or you hit yourself in the face for 15% max health every ten seconds. It's not ideal.

How so ? I have tow heal skills from AR and the grenade never pop.
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>People who use AR for healing.
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>>181010094
Only two(three?) AR skills have a chance to spawn the grenade. So you can build without any grenade at all, but then you're missing out on the primary mechanic of the weapon.
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>>181010232
>People don't know how great AR Blood leech healing was
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>>181010286
Ok, it's my secondary and I only using it for healing.
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>>181010232
Your autism is showing. Ar healing better known as leech healing is one of best roles in the game. With second to none (save fist) healing and good dps to boot.
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>>181010384
Most people never did NM Dungeon and most people who did have never done more than a 18 and those don't require a Leech build.
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>>181010837
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>>181001501
>wanting to delete based mining helmet
I always used it in dark places.
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