/dadg/ - Darkest Dungeon General

>>180751479
first for local man ruined everything ten times

>>180724924
>PD is not capable of doing that even with help. The best she can do is deal 6 points of damage with blight.
Which is a moot point, PD doesn't need to kill the backline on turn 1 with help because it has the second-best stun in the game.

>Killing is more economical than stunning. There is no point in using stuns if you can kill instead except for when you want to stall, which you don't do until there are at least 2 weak enemies left.
This is downright false. A stun is a direct 1:1 trade of turns, generally with a bonus in the form of damage or positioning. There is literally no reason not to stun as often as possible because they are a net gain at zero cost every time you land one. PD and Hellion stuns are even better, as they trade 1 turn for 2 enemy turns, immediately putting you in a turn advantage at the beginning of the battle and allowing you to focus down enemies without freeing others to damage you.

>What are you even talking about? No one is creating any "action advantages", marking teams are simply capable of killing the backline on turn 1 with high SPD/Ambush and Arbalest's damage contributes to that greatly. Something PD is not capable of doing.
PD spends 1 turn to take away 2 enemy turns with her stun. She is literally gaining your team an extra turn every time she lands it.

Slowly, gently, this is how a thread is archived

What is the hardest non-Darkest Dungeon (location) boss?

Is the new hardest difficulty much harder?

I heard they increased the limit to 100 weeks, but with the courtyard that seems to be just so people can do it and the DD with ease

i like the courtyard map but the crimson curse is an annoying mechanic

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Is it time to restart?

>>180751608
>A stun is a direct 1:1 trade of turns,
yeah but an instant kill is a direct 1:infinity trade of turns

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>>180665263
I don't have any audio for musketeer. I extracted the files in the appropriate folders and added the line.

Honestly, I'd just prefer a version where the musketeer's assets just outright replace arbalest's assets.

>>180749632
From the flavor text and nature of the CC trinkets, one can guess the possible backstory of the classes without comics yet
>Bounty Hunter got tangled up with some crime lords' affairs and hunts them in vengeance most likely after they killed his family or something
>Flagellant's religious sect believes all is lost and only through pain and suffering can there be absolution
>Hellion was exiled from her tribe for some reason and left in shame, travelling to the hamlet most likely to regain lost honor
>Houndmaster tried to expose corruption within law enforcement but failed and probably resigned
>Jester killed a tyrant king of which he had been working for as a jester and possibly a food tester as well
>Plague Doctor kicked out of her university for unethical experiments which she thought was leading to a medical breakthrough
>Vestal went to the hamlet in order to atone for having lewd/heretical thoughts that interfered with her job
This is all my interpretation so feel free to challenge it

Why is it that only heroes are affected by the crimson curse? Why is that the contagion never affects the caretaker, the abbot or the peasants?

I'm bad at this game, how exactly does Man at Arms work in position 4? There's a good trinket for that but what does he do there exactly and is there any point to it?

>>180751848
He shouts at people

How many weeks do I have on Bloodmoon? And how many deaths can I have?

>>180751848
You can do it 2 ways

a) Keep him in pos 4 where you will only be able to use guard, bolster and command
b) Start on pos 3 and have some heroes with movement skills (like jester) that can advance and move the MaA at pos 4

option b is a little tricky to get right but it allows you to use your riposte skill

>>180751746
Battles are not an unlimited number of turns. The only way to get an unlimited turn ratio is to end the fight without giving the opponent any turns whatsoever, which is much more probable with stuns than anything that involves 2-for-1ing enemies with Arbalest.

>>180751964
Bellow can't be used at pos 4

>>180751740
never restart

if you're going through hell, keep going

>>180752184

Use the second best, bolster.

>>180752228
I had all my ancestral trinkets on them though.

>>180752184
The other three characters in your team are also people.

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So, i was playing the dlc up until now, but once i got an invitation and clicked to start the quest to kill the baron the game simply crashed on the loading screen, and now everytime i try to restart the game the loading screen appears as the hamlet, and the game crashes again

Does anyone know how to solve this?

>>180751740
How the fuck did you manage to die with that comp, with the occultist and leper debuffing the boss it's impossible to die

Is turning off abomination party restrictions cheating?

>>180752963
did you often fall on your head while playing as a child?

>>180752913
I have no idea what are considered good skill comps.

Also. I ran out of torches.

>>180753082
It's ok you'll do better next time friendo

>>180752963
Is a meme restriction that is only in place because the backer wanted it so. In fact red hook is planning to make the restriction system quirk-based instead

>Crests are the least useful heirloom
>Have a stack size of 12, almost every quest offers them as a reward

>Portraits are the most useful (or 2nd most useful after deeds)
>Have a stack size of 3, very few quests offer them as a reward

>>180753082
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

>>180753705
I learned the other day that you can transmute between heirloom types. It's at a loss, but handy nonetheless.

>>180753705
Heirlooms are consumed at different rates, roughly proportional to their stack sizes anyway. Crest districts will use like 200-300 crests while there is no portrait district that uses more than like 60 portraits.

>>180753705
>crest least useful
>used literaly everywhere
??????????????

Do things get worse if I don't go to the Courtyard as soon as possible to sort out those hives?

>deployed a team for a short Champion quest
>Fanatic
>he kills two before HM goes Stalwart
>retreat is successful
>cut my losses and retreat from the quest
>Shrieker event
>fight gets out of hand, and the birdfuck kills another two level 6 heroes before disappearing

I've never suffered such a heavy loss in nearly 150 hours of playtime, but at least I got my trinkets back

>>180752869
pls respond

do sun rings work in the courtyard?

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I'VE COME TO COLLECT (YOUR MEMES)

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>>180754691

>>180754646
Not sure, honestly, I never had something like that happen to me. Try repairing/validating you game files, never hurts to try

>caltrops
>replace an awful skill with another awful skill
What did Red Hook mean by this?

What's a good team to take in the Baron dungeon? I got through the first part of it, and I'll face the fuckyoudile next

>>180754996
bleeder team or mark team. Been using Arb Occ BH Flag

Does firing someone count as a death?

>>180755309
AFAIK no.

>>180755309
No, which makes it all the more silly when people post their graveyards full of "killed by crimson curse" in this thread.

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i really hate the infestation mechanic. im just trying to farm some loot in the ruins

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already have 7 invitations. keep running into these guys in the ruins, keep getting infected with CC.

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I've come to dread Champion level bloodsucker encounters in regular dungeons

Plague doctor has been my least used classed so far. Their ability to apply blight/bleed is overshadowed by others that can apply DoT and damage at the same time. Heals are weak even with trinkets. Stun + vapors is the best thing about PD but hearing that stuns have been nerfed makes me more weary of using them (seems like PD would be great for a no Vestal/Occultist party if stuns were reliable as they would still be able to patch people up).

>>180755931
Yeah its pretty bad. The enemies from the courtyard are generally harder than enemies from other areas and you get the a point where you're tired of getting cursed all the time.

>>180751764
>Houndmaster tried to expose corruption within law enforcement but failed and probably resigned
>Even the chef was on it
Damn doggo man, I would buy you a pint.

>>180756938
agree about PD. Stun definitely got a nerf with CC and the PD was not spared. In the courtyard, ive been using a lot of Arb Occ in 3/4.

I used to run PDs with a HM and stun-lock a team but dont think it's as strong anymore

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http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/370/?

There's a female abom skin now.

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>>180756295
>>180756938
nice nice

>>180757607
They have become one of the worst memes in the game. The whole process of waiting for infestation level to rise just so you can kill the boss drags the game out way too much.

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cartographer or jester building? I feel like cartographer would trivialize courtyard because of constant brightness giving free +10 dodge

>>180751750
run localization.bat

>>180757537
That truely is an abomination

>>180758301
If you can build the cartographer go for it, i have it and i love it

>>180754879
that crit chance tho

>Antiquarian's CC trinket gives her +50% dmg and +5% crit against blighted enemies

Battle antiquarian is real nao

>>180758301
Cartographer.

Districts don't seem all that well thought out though and the tavern is "should I even bother" tier. Puppet Theater, Vintners, Cartographer, the Hall, and the Hand are the good ones.

Why am i sometimes hitting another enemy instead of the one i'm aiming for? Im pretty sure i'm not misclickig and they are definittely not getting guarded.

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>>180751479
tfw hitting the boss for 40 every round without crits

> quick short veteran cove run
> bring antiquarian, occultist, *snorts* and jester
> Fanatic screen pops up
> Oh shit nigga here we go
> First half of the dungeon goes as normal
> Veteran Fanatic shows himself
> Realise my Jester is the only big damage dealer and my Bounty Hunter doesn't have anything that can hit the back besides the stun bomb
> Jester gets captured
> This eventually turns into a scramble to keep people alive, I can't get the stake down before people hit death's door
> 10 minutes later everybody is at 1 health or at death's door, fanatic at 50 health
> Jester manages to crit the shithead for 47 it's almost over
> In a desperate attempt to stay alive the Fanatic managed to kill my Bounty Hunter
> Antiquarian finished him off with a crit stab

I managed to finish the rest of the mission with the leftover crew at deaths door but man the fanatic doesn't fuck around.

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>>180754691

>>180759732
I wish they used some other mechanic for the fanatic than the same one they used for Hag. Feels like they ran out of ideas when it came to bosses.

>>180759732
What's the chance on the fanatic popping up? It's gotta be really fucking low, because i'm past week 110 and i still havent seen him once. And i got plenty of cursed heroes.

>>180760212
The more cursed heroes in a party the higher the chance. If you embarked with four that all have the curse and have gotten the event so he appears the chance is pretty high.

For the "Idle X gains 1 resolve level" is that basically after I embark without taking one?

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>yfw free building upgrade week

>>180760118
It fits the theme of the fanatic I suppose, but I agree that they could have tried to do something different. The shuffle mechanics with the stake were interesting however, they could have build on that more perhaps.

>>180760514
Yes

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fuck I cannot beat the stupid baron

just lost my badass leper

>>180757537
>no abominable tits

>>180760804
I breezed through the entire dungeon with:
Occ, BH, Fla, HWM. Try it.

>>180760804
The baron is a motherfucker but he seems to miss a lot. I finally beat him when i fought him with a high dodge squad and a jester continually debuffing his accuracy.

is there a way to force the drop of cc trinkets?, some drunk fuckwit gamble it and the fuccking giant stopped dropping them.

lads, where can i find my save file?

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What's the torch level of Bloodmoon ? Can i use Sun ring and such with it ? And how do i beat APEX, i'm still stuck at Champion croc

>>180760804
Vestal/Jester/Flaggellant/Helion did it well for me. Just pop the eggs one by one

>>180761238
You can farm them after the countess mission.

>>180761238
eh, the only thing i can think of is to max out the gipsy cart building and wait until you get lucky

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>game crash when the pounder have 5hp

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>Necromancer
Ancestor invites a bunch of scholars to come hang out at his place and teach him about magic, then kills them, reanimates them and chucks them into the ruins.
>Prophet
Rasputin shows up, so the ancestor tries killing him a few dozen times. Eventually, he says "fuck it" and takes him to Dankest Dungeon. Raz pulled out his eyes, bit off his tongue and ran away, gaining a 'cult' following.
>Hag
The original plaguefu shows up to ancestor's abode, but she was too kinky for him so he threw her out. She had a bunch of kids, grew a bunch of shrooms, and eats bandits in her spare time.
>Cannon
Vvulf and his succ bois killed fucking everything for the ancestor, then once he was dead they decided to stick around since thar be treasure.
>Siren
Qt 3.14 hobo girl had the hots for the smug, foreboding motherfucker with the whiskers. He cuffed her to a rock and chucked her in the ocean to get fucked by fish folk in exchange for shinies.
>Drowned Crew
Roads were getting crowded, so 'cestor decided to have his sketchy shit sent by sea. An asshole to the end, he killed these fellas when they demanded a raise by making their boat sink.
>Swine King & Wlibur
Ancestor's magic was pretty shit; he could only reanimate bones but couldn't even summon a demon. He summoned a big evil, but it was retarded so he dumped it in the sewer. Wilbur may or may not actually be possessed, but this little piggy was a fucker even before shit went down.
>Formless Flesh
Ancestor really, REALLY sucked at magic. He got frustrated and ragequit after the Swine King, dumping the rest of the retarded pig guts into the sewers to rot.
>the entire fucking Crimson Court
Back when the ancestor was only mildly a dick, he managed to spot a vampire at one of his parties. When she tried to give him the succ, he killed her and fed her blood to all his friends. Why not?

>>180761392
Teeth rake is your worst enemy. Bring a party with repositioning abilities. Lunge, finale, holy lance, all that good stuff.

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Haven't really played darkest dungeon yet, just gave it a whirl a year or two ago and liked it but couldn't find the time to really get into it.

Now i see a new dlc came out and apparently it's harder. I wanna give it a shot but just to be on the safe side do any of you know a torrent for it? you know how it gues, if you like it, you buy it, but nowdays there's a lot of pandering and hype that gets thrown all over the fucking place and i ain't falling for another no man's sky.

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>>180761565
>blackout when baron had 20hp left

>>180761565
Game should load into the fight

>>180761761
When she tried to give him the succ, he killed her and fed her blood to all his friends. Why not?

What a fucking asshole.

Also is there a way to give my heroes blood vials without sendind them into the dungeons?

>>180762078
They'll drink automatically in the hamlet.

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>>180762078
if they're on wasting level, they get their share of blood automatically provided you have blood in your stock

>>180761761
Is there a lore explanation on why do we kill each boss 3 times?

>>180751830
They are all merely errant bits of flesh

>>180758785
>Forgetting the performance hall
My jesters have been carrying me though the courtyard with instakill finales.

>>180761402
you know what giant i mean? the rock one

i'm a retarded cunt so help me out there
is the stage coat the first building i should max out?

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>>180761270
pls respond

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>>180762321
>Necromancer
There were several scholars, and he reanimated all of them.
>Prophet
Rasputin was very hard to permanently kill even in real life.
>Hag
No explanation, but I imagine it may be a result of her experiments.
>Cannon
There were several of these, but if there was really only one, it could always be repaired.
>Siren
I imagine the fish folk fix her up, or Ancestor did a lot of sacri-wife-ing.
>Drowned Crew
According to lore, they simply refuse to stay dead.
>Swine King & Wilbur
The mutations were caused by possession. After destroying the body, they could just possess another.
>Formless Flesh
The ancestor's magic was really fucking awful, and he threw a lot of failed piggies into the warrens.

I don't know if you fight the Crimson Court creeps consecutively, considering I can't keep myself collected to carry on.

>>180751608
>Which is a moot point, PD doesn't need to kill the backline on turn 1 with help because it has the second-best stun in the game.
Killing the backline is preferable to stunning it.

>This is downright false. A stun is a direct 1:1 trade of turns, generally with a bonus in the form of damage or positioning.
Which is pointless. All you are doing is delaying enemy turns, not taking them away. They are going to act anyways once the stun resist gets high enough.

> There is literally no reason not to stun as often as possible because they are a net gain at zero cost every time you land one.
They are not a gain at all, they are just delaying the inevitable.

>PD and Hellion stuns are even better, as they trade 1 turn for 2 enemy turns, immediately putting you in a turn advantage at the beginning of the battle and allowing you to focus down enemies without freeing others to damage you.
And they are going to act eventually anyways.

>PD spends 1 turn to take away 2 enemy turns with her stun. She is literally gaining your team an extra turn every time she lands it.
The point of battle is not to have more turns than the enemy, the point of battle is to leave it with as little casualties as possible or even in a better state if possible.

I don't care if you stunlock ranks 3/4 for 10 or 1000 turns and take hundreds of their turns away compared to yours, if they get to act once you fucked up. If you kill them on turn 1 there is no way for them to act.

Stuns are only good for stalling or when killing the enemy before his turn is impossible. The thing is you are making this impossible yourself by focusing on stuns rather than damage.

>>180762723
Personally, I go
Stage Coach>Guild>Sanitarium(rooms)>Blacksmith

>>180762723
Get it to the point where you at least have four heroes coming in each week. For the barracks, you only need 16 slots at a minimum which is where you should stop if you're doing a Bloodmoon run. Otherwise, go for the full 28.

Experienced recruits isn't really necessary at all.

>>180754875
Hey man, it worked! Thanks for that, really, i almost thought that would end up losing my 170+ weeks save, so yeah, thanks!

>>180761027
Fla+healer breezes through everything right now
add a jester with finale+stress healing to breaindead ruining the game until darkest dungeon

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what a fucking shitshow, vampires showing up outside of their own area can really fuck you up

>>180763616
wouldnt be so bad without the ever constant threat of vampire aids

>>180763616
I never had a problem with vampires as far as damage/stress goes. I'm only worried about getting CC but usually I'm able to kill all of them before it procs, at least in Apprentice/Veteran dungeons.

Why don't just send an army to every dungeon instead of 4 characters?
Why every run takes exactly 1 week?

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>>180761861
>this

Is there a torrent for the dlc yet?

>>180764120
>Why don't just send an army to every dungeon instead of 4 characters?
Corridors too tight, small groups have an advantage.

You don't have an army either, just a few dozens of literally whos.

>Why every run takes exactly 1 week?
I'm guessing preparation, gearing up, planning, hell even paperwork.

>>180761861
Its on sale for 10 dollars right now mate. If you add another 10 you get the dlc + soundtrack for that. If you arent willing to spend 10 dollars thats fine, but Im just letting you know.

The game is nowhere near no man's levels of overhyped or bad. Its actually really really fun. You can always check out a few vids and gameplay moments on youtube or watch some streamers and get an idea. Personally, I find the game super engaging, fun, and hard as tits on top of that, so I recommend you buy it.

>>180761861
>>180764398
Not exactly a torrent, but

http://igg-games.com/darkest-dungeon-crimson-court-free-download.html

That's the only place I found that has the latest build. Every other place has the build #19990, which is buggy as fuck. I used the Mega link.

Alright. Took down Baron finally.

Occ - MAA - Flag - Jester

Occ and Jester went debuff + dodge trinkets
MAA just whatever, I went with speed and healing recieved
Flag bleed chance

Between Jester debuffing ACC, MAA buffing dodge, using Retribution and Guard for emergencies he was easy.

Healed when Baron was either debuffed with curse or Solo

Used the egg phases to de-stress with the Jester. Finally got lucky with the eggs and Baron was the last egg 2 of the 3 acts

Flag bleed and MAA retribution did most of the damage

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>>180764704
Thanks, mate.

>>180764808

Thats a good party.

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can you guys share some tips to help my anal burning after failing 3 champ missions in a row? apprentice and vet are cakewalks for me at this point, but im getting absolutely ass ravaged in champ

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>>180764120
Your resources are not infinite. You dont have the money or the influence to gather and command an army.
Hell, there is a town event where the Abbot requests help from the crusade and all they send is a couple of crusaders because they literally don't give two shits abut your cause.

"...Inexplicably, however, only two have arrived. It appears that the Abbot's earnest appeals have been answered, albeit with mocking cruelty."

>>180765132
whats up with those robed sitting niggers in courtyard? they just stress you out all the time

>>180765456
Glittering gold, trinkets and baubles... paid for in blood.

>>180765221
Max gear and skills first.

I tend to do short dungeons with lvl 5 heroes until they reach level 6.

I also tend to go to Ruins first because they are significantly easier unless your team is all about bleeds. I prefer Ruins over other dungeons even with parties such as Arbalest/Occultist/Houndmaster/Bounty Hunter even though they get no bonuses vs. Unholy.

>>180765456
Loot for blood.

Flag+healer makes the game retardedly easy
Flag+healer+Jester with the building is literally the only party you need for every run except 2 or 3 bosses.
Is flag getting nerfed?

>>180766027
probably
he's overdone: the character

>go into a normal short ruins mission with Reynauld
>literally every single fight is against bloodsuckers

they REALLY wanted him to get the curse (he didn't)

>>180765221
I've been running with success
PD/Occult/Crusader/Hellion for champion ruins,
Arb/Occu/Hm/BH for champion warrens/cove (also an amazing comp for the god swine)

>>180766027
The improved death's door+instant 50%hp heals are a bit too much yeah

>>180766027
>>180766103
the dude is so strong that they limited him to one in every party. is he even that fucking good that he can be ran into a dungeon with bleed resist?

>>180766515
Well with the way the dlc works, half of the dungeon will be vampire mosquitoes so bleed is never useless

>>180766454
>Give him the +40% healing received trinket
>literally unkillable because his self heal is so bullshit good

The made a guy with the strenghts of the vestal's and the occ's heals, and the weaknesses of neither

>>180766654

would you take him into the ruins where you cant make skelies bleed?

>>180767123
considering some of the DLC cunts now spawn in the ruins yes

>>180767179
i meant to ask if he was so great thatd you take him into an area where there isnt an infestation and the enemies have high bleed resist. like is he such a great healer that you would take him solely because of his heals and other utilities

>>180767370
still yes, because his healing makes the occultist look like butt.
plus he's frontline, so pair him with buffers on the backline and you'll be strong as fuck

>>180767370
His weakness is that he doesn't have on-demand healing. If an enemy doesn't feel like attacking him then there isn't much you can do; he can even resist the bleed from Reclaim.

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Why does this guy come back after you killed him?

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FUCK
EVERY
THING

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Would someone please just take her dice away.

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>>180767576
you should have reminded yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

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>>180767576
>>180767647
NO SERIOUSLY FUCK THIS GAME
I MANAGED TO SURVIVE ANOTHER TIME BUT I JUST CAN'T PROGRESS BECAUSE LMAO APEX PREDATOR

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>>180761392
>Just pop the eggs one by one

and don't hit the one the baron is in until the others are gone

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This is the kind of guy who kills conversations when he walks into the room.

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>>180767542
what about his self mark ability? wont enemies focus on him after he marks himself? even if he has prot im pretty sure that hed be at half health quickly because of his low health pool and help from trinkets

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>>180767576

>>180767897
>wont enemies focus on him after he marks himself?
Only if they have moves that benefit from Mark, like Fungal Scratchers.

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>>180767916
>using my own pic against myself
I regret Crimson Court, i'm so enjoying myself

>>180767370
his basic move also lowers bleed resist

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is there an achievement for beating the game on stygian with the DLC enabled? I want to do a stygian playthrough but once through the DLC was more than enough for me and I want to 100% the game

>>180767897
I still am not sure the mark acts as an aggro mechanic. If an enemy has an attack that will benefit from the mark, he will focus him, but if all they have is normal attacks, they seem to ignore him fairly often

>>180767576
Bosses like that is why weakening curse is one of the best moves in the game.

>>180768232
enjoy his %130 debuff resist

>>180768192
why didnt you like the dlc

>>180768192
>letting sand and dirt that close to your machine

oh shit nigger

>>180768005
>>180768201
would the antiquarians protect me skill make him a more reliable healer then?

>>180768304
I don't remember it being that high.

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>>180768709
DO IT
FUCKING
DO IT

>>180768486
It increases his chances of being targeted, yes, but then you're sacrificing a character to bring Auntie.

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Am I the only one who thinks of pic related when using smite with crusaders? Also, someone should make it so his zealous proclamation has "traps are gay" written on the scroll.

>>180768709
turn fucking 70

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>>180768810

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>>180768343
I didnt dislike it really I just hated the soft clock that the crimson curse put on you to advance through the DLC missions which, while fun, were a complete slog. After the curse spreads to enough of your roster your need can begin to overtake your supply, even with the district, which causes people to start dying off and theres nothing you can do to stop it. Its a somewhat neat mechanic which added an extra layer of challenge to the game but it is extremely aggravating if you want to play the game any other way that what the game tells you. Also the dungeons are not randomized so after you have played through them once there isnt much reason to play through them again.

>>180768905
i'm sad now

>>180762756
%SystemDrive%\Users\Public\Documents\Steam\

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>>180768794
I dunno at this point it's just not even fun anymore. I like a challenge but there's nothing you can do against the Croc. Can't reduce his damage, can't outdamage, can't debuff etc.

I had the most success with a solo flagellant with Martyr's Seal, managed to drop it to 60%hp but it was taking forever and he was being stressed so i noped out.

>>180768709
My first Collector was the first fight of a medium mission

the fuck?

Who else goes full ABOMINABLE in here?

>>180769104
I agree that croc is a shit boss. I really dislike bosses that have nothing to offer other than higher numbers. That has put me off on playing Stygian so far.

>>180769104

You want to know the most overpowered team is? Its 3 antiquarians and a flagellant.

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>>180769282
You know it m8.

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Wwhat party comps are considered the cheesiest? I already have beat the game and can't think of a perfect party

>>180766881
Every character is basically 'unkillable' until you get a bullshit crit and/or stun train run on you

Im drunk enough that making a darkest dungeon dating sim sounds like a good idea. If I can write a script while drunk I'll be obligated to program and edit while sober.

Help me get the idea flowing.

What would you like in a DD dating sim?

>>180769441
How did that fight go? I've being thinking about trying to fight the shambler as early as I possibly can as a challenge to see how low you can go with that fight.

>>180769104
What about a high dodge comp? Seems the only way to tip the odds in your favor

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>>180760570
>get back from work
>contemplating on whether to start a new file to fully enjoy CC
>load old file
>14 blueprints

>>180769441
but the abo has literally 0 skills that can be used from position 4, doesn't he?

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>>180770097
full mark actually worked

>>180770348
he can use his self heal.

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I really don't know what to think of this Crimson Curse stuff. On one hand having to clench your butthole out upon taking EVERY SINGLE BLOOD ATTACK is super annoying and stressful.

On the other I just saw what a Bloodlusted Leper can do and am still somewhat aroused.

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>>180769793
Well, here's my guys at the beginning for comparison. I got pretty fucking lucky with virtue, but considering it was all seekers with no trinkets I think that's still a damn good showing.

Honestly all aboms is flat-out the best single-class party you can put together. Front guy transforms, center rows spam stuns and DoTs, and the guy in the back heals himself to prime condition. If somebody gets too beat up, drop him back and rotate the rear guy forward. If necessary you can have the front row spam absolution as well without transforming at all and just stunlock with the center rows to stall for time until everybody's in perfect shape.

>>180770348
Only Absolution works, which is fine.

>>180770348
He can cast his self-stress heal

>flagellant is literal sex
It will be a sad day when they nerf it like Abom and MAA.

>>180770516
>Rape machine that turns into a leeching GOD at low hp

Havin' some Demon Hunter pvp flashbacks with this guy.

>>180768709
What trinket is that?

>>180757537
hey if it fits the art style then it's alright by me

>>180770747
Crest of the 1100
It's one of the kickstarter trinkets. +25% virtue chance, -15% stress.

>>180766027
what about the jester in that party makes it so strong?

>>180771020
Stress heal/crit machine/super buff

>>180767573
u don't kill him
he retreat

>>180771020
Jesters can 1-shot almost every enemy in the game on turn while spamming buffs for the rest of the fight. If your heroes ever get stressed he can stress-heal them too, meaning you never have to use the abbey or tavern.

>>180771375
To add to this get Performance Hall, put jester in front, use finale first turn to kill or do heavy damage then either use solo to get back up front or buff. Repeat until everything is dead.

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>>180754691

>>180771629
You don't even need solo to get back front, Jester's move is high enough to do it on its own. I prefer running Dirk Stab instead to pick low-HP enemies off.

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>>180754691

>>180770423
once you make the building that gives 2 blood a week (needs 1 blueprint and like 60 crests), don't worry about it

Sacrificial Stone is generally a no-no or is there a provision I can use it on?

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>>180771020
Jester is just really strong all around. It makes him fit into most parties because parties get built around him. He has great speed and dodge. He can eliminate an enemy from the fight immediately with finale, making the rest a cakewalk. He has a godly stress heal if needed. He has a godly party combat buff. He can switch to bleed damage for DoTs on large HP enemies. He can debuff the enemy while instantly moving into position for another big finale. oh.. and he has high movement if he gets shifted out of place. He is just ridiculous all around.

>>180771991
That's the one in the warrens that can give +50 stress, right? I generally use it anyway if I have a stress-healer on my team and my heroes don't have the warrens quirk, since it has a chance for negative quirk purging. Otherwise it isn't worth it.

>>180771991
Use this for all your curio and supply needs

http://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/ http://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/
http://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/

http://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/
http://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/
http://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/

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Alright lads i just uploaded my laptop save again to beat APEX with the same team, it works. First time it actually worked better but i forgot to record it. Uploading it on youtube now

>>180767773
Is there a way to tell which one the Barron is in?

>>180772626
there is.

The one with the baron will have that skill.

Unless they shat out a patch to fix it.

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>>180762838
>Which is pointless. All you are doing is delaying enemy turns, not taking them away.
You do not know what "delaying", "taking away", or possibly "turn" means.

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>>180754691
>>180754691

>>180771925
is that from when everyone though PD was a male?

Why doesn't the Crimson Court, of ALL fucking places, barely drop any fucking blood? God this shit is so fucking tedious to deal with. Vintner doesn't fucking help either because I have too many cursed heroes.

>>180773396
I have 110 something blood, i keep getting like 2-3 blood as loot from combats. Besides i have Vintner

>>180773396
Just do some low-level short pitch-black runs, you can get like 3-6 each run on top of the all dosh.

>>180773545
I guess I'm just horribly unlucky because the enemies in this Epic dungeon have dropped blood twice at the most.

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>>180754691

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>>180754691
>>180754691

Does anybody know if nighttime ambushes can happen in the Courtyard?

>tfw its been almost 10 ingame weeks and Im still on low infestation
>tfw feeling ever so dreadful as everyone keeps getting further and further in the dlc

I just wanna kill some bloodsucking vampires maaan

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>>180754691

>>180773948
probably, can they happen inside the DD?

>>180774032
>can they happen inside the DD?
No.

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>>180754691

>>180773948
They can, I've had it happen to me.

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>>180754691
>>180754691

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>>180754691

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guys rate my shitty video
https://youtu.be/TZQlnu-UUpk

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tfw your rookies bleed the big fat pig.

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>>180754691
>>180774367

>>180774345
fug

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I find ridiculous this guy isn't classified as eldritch. I mean look at this fucker.

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>>180754691

>>180774398
this one is really good

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Tips for the countless?

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>>180754691
>>180754691
>>180754691

>>180774696
God bless point blank shot. Wouldn't even bother with the highwayman if not for it.

>>180774696
>>180774904
>tfw no more pre-nerf grapeshot blast

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>>180775424

>>180771020
You delete an enemy on the first round of every single fight, and then stress heal the rest of your party. You can literally take afflicted and stressed heroes into a mission and come out with 0s across the board.

>>180771020
Finale pretty much instakills most enemies when you get the building that gives a 33% bonus damage to it
Then you sit in the backrow an either
a) dirk stab your way back to the front
b) spam stress heal and battle ballad until the debuff wears off and then use solo to get into the front

then it is just rinse and repeat

>occultist reads an unsettling tale
> -15 stress
> +28 stress
Is this bugged? The district bonus doesn't seem to work all the time.

do districts really last through NG+

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Occultist and Antiquarian are pretty cute together.

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>Heroes with the crimson curse are now hurt by Holy Water
>But Holy Fountain curios still heal them

>>180776565
But that's working fine. He got the destress from the district then took the normal effect of the curio.

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Nice haul.

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>do shambler altar for fun
>collector appears right after

Could've been worse if it weren't for it being an easy mission

What class would you add to the game?

>Farm 150K gold
>get the bank
>the weekly bonus gold is now enough to build up high level heroes by itself so i get no loss
>with the gold i get from questing the bonus is progressively getting even higher

I am become the jew

>>180778881
but /dadg/ tells me the bank is a tarp

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I like how sustainable this party is, i only go back to drop the haul and then come back.

>>180777067
one i thing i always wondered
if i keep stacking buffs and debuffs, do they also reset the timer? or does after 3 rounds one of the stacks go away?

>>180779151
applying a new bleed resets the counter, which is why a bleed team is so useful against the Flesh for instance

>>180779000
it's just that there are better buildings until you get to the point where you start seeing benefits

>>180779053

Mind the Viscount tho, his riposte loves to crit all the time

tips for baron party? dont have a houndmaster.

>>180779151
Each proc is tracked separately. The hovertext shows the duration of the longest remaining proc. If you have a 3 damage bleed with 1 turn left and a 1 damage bleed with 5 left it will show 4 bleed for 5, then next turn it will show 1 for 4.

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>>180778546
Courtesan
but make it official so there's like, sound and shit
and animations for me to jack my peen to

>>180779235
wrong, it'll only show the damage it'll take in the next turn but the duration doesn't stack.
Let's say you got 2 bleed attacks in two consecutive turns, it'll say 6dmg/3 rounds but as the first bleed is over it'll go back to being 3dmg/1round

>>180779549
>>180779235
i'm getting mixed messages here

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>>180779000
>trusting /dadg/ to give you good advice

>>180779481

Two Highwaymans, riposte his ass and bleed him

>>180779573
boy, i wouldnt be able to wait for r34 on that shit

>>180779235
That's totally wrong. The reason bleed is so good on the flesh is because it shares a health bar, which means no damage is lost as overkill, which otherwise happens when an enemy dies with stacks on it.

>>180779643
>I'm in the majority

I feel like less of a faggot now but I want to beat this game finally. I restarted for the everything burns update and now I restarted again for CC.

I cleared 0 DD missions the first time and 2 the last.

>>180778546
some kind of frontline blight user.

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Good night /dadg/

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Rate my Flagellant build /dadg/

I dont like to play unsafe arround deathdoor even with the insane resistence to deathblow

>>180778546
Rat Keeper.

>AoE attacks
>blights
>corpse eating for buffs
>rat armor

>>180778546
a stress inducing hero that can kill human enemies via heart attacks

other than that, debuffs out of the ass

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>>180779910
I can see it now, very high hp but low damage frontliner. He has a guard that simultaneously activates riposte, but the riposte applies a high chance high damage blight.

alternatively he could have a thing like the Tracking Shot for highwayman in that you use the ability once and then it applies for the rest of the fight; but it would be a riposte that applies blight.

>>180780127
with both his self heals being so good and both needing to get your hp low, do you really want to increase his prot?

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defend this

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>beat baron
>five weeks later
>Zero infestation
I can't believe I'm actually hoping to get cursed or find those mother fuckers just so I can get this crimson plague started.

>>180780127
I think Martyr's seal is still one of the best trinkets for him even if you don't plan to get him to death's door, makes his playstyle safer and 15% bonus hp mean you get to use his below 50% skills safer

>>180780418

Exactly. Maybe some move enemy skills, too.

Ooh, it could be a Snake Handler. like a combination of Houndmaster and Plague Doctor

>>180780593
defend your resolution?

>>180780593
It's fun and I like it.

>Use Protect Me on a Highwayman with Riposte+Bloodlust+Unparalleled Finesse+Moonshine buffs
>One turn kill as the entire enemy team suicide-trains onto Antiquarian

There is simply no better way to make money.

>>180778546
Puppeteer (Houndmaster but with a puppet)
Warlord (2 handed axe wielding barbarian)
Vagrant
Peasent (Torch and pitchfork, could use the light mechanic for some skills)
Scribe (wordswordswords)
Eastern traveller (a notSamurai)

>>180778546
Another dedicated healer class

>>180778546
Bard

>>180780420
>do you really want to increase his prot?

I use Suffer right away to buff his PROT and to bait attacks with the mark while the others are free from damage to deal with the rest.

>>180780601
I agree but most of the time I use the Barristan's head for my strategy or the Berserk charm for more damage.

I tried your idea but with the Ancestor's bottle and it worked pretty ok. I just want more opinions on trinkets for him

>>180778546
thematically the game is missing a straight up wizard/witch class that throws fireballs and shit

mechanically the game needs another healer. You really only have 2 options as it stands now

I can tell you what the game does NOT need more of: frontliners/melee users in general

>>180782114
Thematically the devs said they wanted to stay away from traditional D&D archetypes. Occult shit is fine, though.

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>>180782114
>mechanically the game needs another healer.
>You really only have 2 options as it stands now

>>180781148
>>180782114
Flagellant is a healer class too, though. Reclaim to give another hero regeneration while bringing his own health down so you can use his sub 50% HP super heals.

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>>180782309
but they have hit just about every single traditional RPG archetype EXCEPT mage. We have a warrior, a cleric, a paladin, a bard, a rogue, a ranger, a barbarian, and a warlock. they are really only missing an unarmed monk style character and a classic wizard before being D&D + lovecraft.

I find it really strange that they say that given the roster that already exists

>>180782546
Flagellant is too damn good. They're going to nerf him hard and send him into highway-man tier.

>>180782672
but highwayman is still good. no cove run is without one in my case

>>180782309
So how about something like a pyromaniac? The Flagellant has proved that they're willing to delve into some crazy shit with their heroes, so I think an arsonist wouldn't be too far of a stretch. He could introduce a new Burning DoT

>>180782371
you cannot reliably use flagellant or plague doctor as a solid healing based support. PD heal is more of just a bleed/blight cure and the only none conditional flag heal is turboshit.

If you want a "healer" for your team that will function outside of novice missions you are stuck with either occultist or vestal

>>180782672
Highwayman is incredible, just play him like a Jester; put him in front and use Point Blank Shot to delete the first rank unless it's a prot defender, then duelist advance back to the front and repeat ad nauseam.

>>180782546
reclaim fucking sucks

>>180783086
>reclaim fucking sucks
Explain yourself.

>>180783086
You don't use it for the heal, you use it to bring Flag's health down. That way you can use him as a dedicated healer without having to rely on enemies attacking him.

>>180782912
Or PD just prevents more dmg than Vestal ever heals

>>180782912
Arbalest is a great healer, especially when paired with people like HM, Leper or Abom who can selfheal.

the problem with healers that aren't Vestal or Occultist are that any time spent healing with them is time not spent using their other skills. If you're using PD's heal you're not afflicting blight or stunning or using vapours. If you're healing as Flagellant you're not applying Bleed. If you're self-healing, you're not using the various damage skills.

Hell, the only reason Occultist's a good healer is because it does such an obscene amount of healing, otherwise he'd be garbage and it'd interfere with his curses.

>>180782792
>fire does good damage and spreads throughout the enemy party over time
>using his fire skill multiple times in a fight increases how much damage the flames do, and how fast they spread
>if the fire spreads too fast in a single battle your own heroes are set alight, though
>instead of interacting with curios normally he burns them for a stress heal
>if he's on high stress he'll burn curios on a forced interaction, though
>the higher his stress is the more damage fires do, but the chance for them to spread to your heroes is increased as well
>he takes reduced damage from being on the pyre

>>180773331
No. That's Plague Knight

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>>180783304
you simply cannot rely on just stuns and a dot cure to get you through anything past the easiest of novice dungeons. you will NEED a consistent source of healing or longer missions and bosses, its simply a fact of the game. And as it stands only 2 of the 16 classes can fit that bill

>>180783224
well it heals for 1-3 per turn over 3 turns in a game where normal monster non crits will take half of your backlines health aware in a single hit. It also has a self bleed which -could- be used to bring you under 50% quicker but then you remember that flag has the highest bleed resistance in the game by a large margin and a 3 damage accelerant to unlock your abilities when you will have around 40 health late game and you already have an ability that puts a target on your head while protecting/curing your teammates in the process. The ability is not even kind of worth the ability slot or the wasted turn

>>180783878
This. Maybe if it had a base of 3 heal and went up to like 6 it'd be a usable skill, but it's not. Just use the stress heal or his self mark, they both help far more

>>180783086

With the Arbalest reclaim is a great tool to heal someone and getting the Flag hp down

>>180783449
you simply cannot rely on a single target 5 hp heal in any real content

>>180784139
you are using 2 character slots to do what 1 Vestal or Occultist can do on their own. You are wasting time, turns, and damage

>>180783878
I've finished the game twice now(once including the DLC) and while I sometimes use a vestal/Occultist, they are not required on any of the hardest missions.

How the fuck are Chevaliers balanced
>do about half health damage to all but the tankiest classes, plus bleed, stun chance, and debuff
>good prot and dodge and high health means it's hard to burst them down

Yeah they have low stun resist (the only thing that still does), but if two of these guys focus fire a hero he's basically screwed barring amazing dodge.

>>180784139
its really, really not. I understand why you may think this in situations where you can stall and top off your team but when any non tank character getting hit even once almost puts them on deaths door you simply need more throughput

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>fanatic shows up
>send my four infected to put his ass down
>dungeon goes well enough but I'm constantly on my toes waiting for him to pop up
>shows up in the final section of the final hallway after my quest has been finished
>know how the fight works; know what to expect
>didn't know about the screams

>>180784164
Thats what you think pham, 5+8+11 heals are great especially with a guarder like MaA to tank hits.

>>180784352
I find it incredibly surprising that you think so. How do you deal with the champion level 2 rank class enemies with shitloads of stun resistance which can put even tanks on deaths door in a single crit? Ive completed the game too and I dont see auxiliary heals being NEARLY enough to get you through the 8-10 of these battles you can face in the longer missions

>>180784426
>The screams

I just try to avoid the fanatic at this point. It seems like he can only show up in hallways so I just go around them if possible and retreat if it's a single hallway mission.

>>180778546
How about an undead hero. Like a skeleton that kept its memories after reanimation. It would have a lower deathblow resist than normal, but once per mission it revives after 3 rounds from death. Probably some sort of fighter that isn't too durable, but can fit in Most ranks comfortably

>>180784460
If It works for you then more power to you. If you are able to get through a dungeon with 20 regular hits with single target 5 heals (8 with trinket set) then you have the RNG of the gods

>>180772569
link that shit homie

>>180784682
The fight didn't give me too much trouble, but the screams really shook me up for some reason.
>>180778546
Recruitable enemies.

>>180784460

Only problem I have is that she can't heal herself.

>>180785104
yes she can, she just needs to be in rank 3, not 4

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>>180784164
>you simply cannot
Shut the fuck up pleb. Who told you HAVE to bring a dedicated healer to clean every single boo boo you get? Have you ever considered any of the following
>killing and disabling enemies using high spd, move, stuns and damage into DoT
>using self-heal guards
>purposely letting your flag tank everything so he can use his stronger skills to heal your team
>using reclaim on heroes as a healing buff right before they get hit
>using the weaker heals early on instead of healing when they're about to hit death's door
>using tanks instead of letting everyone get hit at random
>having your flag hit DD to mass heal your entire party
>stacking arby's heal with self healers or simply spamming it to make her heal more effective
>using extra food between rounds to clear any fuck ups
>jester and man-at-arms to boost spd and lower acc
>doing all this to prevent damage and recover without having to use occultist and vestal's nuke heal
It sounds like to me that you can't play a dungeon with a dedicated healer. If you're saying that people aren't playing the game right because they need a clutch nurse for every expedition then you can't be more wrong.

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>>180785217
>using the weaker heals early on instead of healing when they're about to hit death's door
oh you only play novice missions My mistake. I thought I was speaking to someone who has played the game for longer than 2 days

>>180785178

Then who is going to heal rank 4th? The problem still stands. I also prefer her to be dealing damage, but the heal ain't that bad especially if you have another healer, that can deal damage(aka Occultist). Two healers are always better than one.

Also, I never got the hang of vestal and hate that whore.

>>180785217
>playing Deaths Door Healer with Flag

this is going to get your flag killed sooner rather than later.

So for some reason the game just crashes 10 seconds after I load a save file, like clockwork.

The stress symbol is also a white cube. What do I do? Is my save fucked?

>>180785217
>purposely letting your flag tank everything so he can use his stronger skills to heal your team
literally no character in the game can "tank" for your entire team. Dont post if you dont know what your talking about

>>180785398
Using your heals early on instead of waiting for heroes to hit DD prevents your chances of getting there in the first place. Or are you saying that I'm going to hit enemy crit city every single encounter? Healing early instead of healing heroes when they're about to die is literally reminding yourself so that when they do eat a unlucky hit that accumulates, they won't hit DD immediately.

>>180785639

What mod did you tried to installed?

>>180785692
>he never used Man-at-Arms

>>180785725
APEX

how the fuck do you use abomination without the entire party going absolute fucking bananas before you can even camp the first time on a dungeon.

>>180785845
Man At Arms can guard one (1) person at a time.

Riposte marks do not guarantee the enemy targeting you

>>180785902
Bring a jester or only use his transform ability when you really need it. His basic attack has a really good stun chance.

>>180785739

I only have a few skins and Pit Fighter/Trap Maker installed via workshop, don't tell me that's all it takes to break a game

>>180785902

How do you use an abomination when your most viable healing class refuses to buddy up with him

>>180786154
use your second most viable healing class

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>>180785715
>heals early on instead of waiting for heroes to hit DD prevents your chances of getting there in the first place
If you have played the game for longer than a couple of hours you would know that situations where you are chain hit onto deaths door before you can even react happen all the time. Champion level missions most of all. Its simply a numbers game. These are the abilities of a regular enemy in champion level ruins missions. They often come along with a bone bearer which gives a passive 20% boost to everyone other mob and can buff for an additional +20%. Both this mob and the standard bearer have more hp than can be reliably killed in the first round of attacks even for mark teams. Its mathematically impractical to take on several of these packs in a single mission without a dedicated healer. You simply -cannot- rely on weak auxiliary heals to deal with this threat.

How /d/ is this game with the current mods available

>>180785914
Man-at-arms helps tank at least important hero that can save your team, be it someone fragile or someone who has a heal. Someone like another self heal hero (leper, hound master, sader, abom) can take care of themselves so that leaves at least one person of the team that you can focus most of your heals on and with a decent heal skill then you're good to go. Having a vestal or occultist makes keeping the party alive easy but half of the time, so long as you keep the mobs at bay, their heals are redundant or outright overkill.