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>>180740092
i wanna bully the dork womb

T S U K K O M E
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WD will be Dragon, Shadow, Blood meta
Screenshot this

>sword is tier 1 again
>but you cant use otohime in the tier 1 deck

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>Dragon thread

NO FUCK YOUR CRAFT

WD isn't going to change the meta.

SHORTE > FORTE
PROVE ME WRONG

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Post elf.

>>180740215
>Falling for the exhibition match meme

>>180740215
>not playing Walfrid set up deck with Otohime

Get a load a this pleb

>>180740237
Forest has a turn 2 double removal

That alone kills most aggro decks.

>>180740476
>Aggro

Friend

Aggro hasn't been relevant since the beginning of ToG.

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>>180740004
This is DE Midsword.
Really makes you think.

What changed in Tempest for decks to have a higher winrate going first instead of going second like in RoB

>>180740215
No more princesses for you Erika, you must fully embrace the CoCK next expansion.

>>180740562
I didn't know there were tiers that didn't have shadow in them.
How low are you?

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>win 1 match with runecraft
>opponent disconnects during mulligan

>>180740567
>All the way back in DE

whoa man

you sure showed me

>>180740584
Shadow is broken going first and it anihilates any advantage any other deck has going second

>>180740562
This
Can't even do my Blood dailies with Aggro anymore

>>180740567
yes the playrates of each faction are much healthier

>>180740584
Kektar, Sibyl, Aegis, Belph.

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Have you bullied Luna today?

>>180740651
>Shadow is aggro
>Eachtar, a 7 PP follower, is an aggro card

Sounds to me like you're a professional on low tiers.

>>180740668
>Did we go into RoB
Are you retarded?

>>180740702
the point is that using current winrates as proof that the meta won't change is retarded

>>180740773
>It's a let's pretend aggro isn't dominating by calling it "midrange" episode

>>180740773
Eachtar is a terrible example since he can fit into literally every shadow deck except NepNep and maybe tyrant.

I think Cygames should just condense their old expansion packs or something.

Having 5 different options to roll into as a new player is discouraging.

>>180740737
TOP
DICK

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WD is going to be DE levels of balance again. I have a feelings in my bones.

Thank you

>>180740949
It's still better than most if not all online card games.

>>180740940
>this is what submaster subhumans honestly believe

>>180741082
DE wasn't balanced. It was a 3 class meta, exactly like it is now (now is obviously worse, but that doesn't make DE fine).
Post-nerf RoB was the most balanced meta we've had.

>>180740690
>>180740562
Do you even shadow aggro?

Somebody post that cropped porn shot of Erika with a neutral/angry expression with what seems like two men lifting either her legs or hands.

I want to try my hand at finding it again.

>>180740949
>want to get a specific legendary
>nwo you have to roll packs with 8 legendaries inside per faction

>>180741235
Yes Shadow """"""aggro""""" featuring Hector from 7PP :^)

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>>180740308

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>>180740308

>>180740584
Key Legos being played first.

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>>180741082
And I thought I was the only one. Most of these cards just seem fun and balanced for once.

>>180741173
According to you tards if an aggro blood deck decided to include soul dominator it would magically become a midrange deck because it costs 7pp and apparently aggro decks must be hardcapped at 6

>>180740092
I want to smell that SMART dork's panties!

>>180740737
You barely won, if he had Balanced man it was game over for you.

>>180741230
Oh no the braindead aggro decks of blood and shadow were low tier, how horrible

>>180741307
You are a fucking retard. That is the only out of curve Shadow Aggro have and only because Eacthar is fucking broken and it a must include in almost all fucking Shadow decks thanks to how fucking broken it is.

>>180741485
The thing is aggro shadow relies heavily on your curve and crash itself going second. Midrange is the more stable variant but much slower.

>>180741712
>submaster subhumans

>>180741610
>complaining about DE Aggro Blood/Shadow

https://youtu.be/utIHFPGn2_E?t=5251
>S-sexy pose

I'm not gonna stop buying WD packs until I have animated playset of Snow.

>SUBHUMANS REDARDS REE
Jesus, this meta turned weebs into mad dogs

>>180741230
DE was balanced in the sense that the t2 decks were actually decent and could still win. The only people who thought otherwise were the poor "oppressed" shadowniggers.

End of RoB was good as well, but it only lasted a few weeks.

>>180742047
>I'm smart enough about the game to know the ins and outs of it
>but not smart enough to be master

really joggin my noggin

NEUTRAL SWORD

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>>180741985
>S-sexy pose

>>180742129
reaching masters is more of a grindfest than actually being good at the game.

>>180742206
Then why aren't you master?

>>180741985
Can't wait to hear how much the dub butchers it

thank god audio switching is a legit option now

>>180741985
>Se-sexy pose
HAHAHAHAHA this japs have something wrong in their heads.

>>180742129
I'm C1 and beat masters all the time

>>180742129
mid shadow kys blood and ramp dragon are indicative of a higher class of intelligence

I quit playing this game 2 weeks or so into ToTG.

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>>180741985
>s-sexy pose
>not lewd posing upon evolution
For what purpose?

>>180742172
Show her dick.

>>180742283
I don't play this game for more than a few minutes a day.

>>180742283
Waiting for WD. I don't have meta deck. And 30000+ points it's just ridiculous.

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What is this Dork good for aside from breeding?

>>180742558
pumping her full of dorks!

>>180741985
>that double lego pack opening
KMR sure does know how to promote his game by using rigged packs huh

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>>180742558
handholding

Can I get a concede duders?

39043

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>>180742532
>>180742445
>>180742359
All those pitiful excuses from all those filthy AA shitters. You disgust me.

>And 30000+ points it's just ridiculous.
lmao

>>180742640
But double lego packs are pretty common

>>180742735
Fuck off luckshitter

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>>180741243

You the man, wew

>>180742725
>climbing without meta deck
yeah yeah dude

>win 1 Rune
>takes nearly an hour
>win 1 shadow
>play 1 and 2 drop on curve while going 1st and opponent concedes, literally done in under a minute
Why do I even bother turning this shit on anymore?

when's the WD release?
also, since this is my first expansion since I started playing, at what time exactly are they releasing it? midnight?

Dshitters are subhuman.

>>180741984
I'm mocking that someone would think DE was a bad meta just because those decks weren't great

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>he isn't playing best girl's deck

inb4
>brick destroyer

>>180742994
Post dick.

>>180742994
>brick destroyer

>>180742923
t. Eris

>>180742963
Nice strawman.

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>Carabosse is bad
>B&B is bad
>Neutral sword is bad
>Young Levi will save ER
Shit /svg/ says

>>180742861

Is this one of those Twitter only artists? This image is not on pixiv.

>>180743121
But neutral sword is shit you fag

>>180742905
How to complete rune quests if you don't have a decent burn deck:
Put the cards you have that normally go in a d-shift deck
Go to unranked
Concede instantly until you find a hagfag
Keep the low cost spells
Play them and watch them not do anything for 3 turns
Emote when they concede

>>180742725
Hey I waste my time fapping and shitposting on 4chan not playing games, Do you think I am a fucking nerd or something?

>>180742913
June 28 8pm pacific time
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0122

>tfw all the crafts will never have flat 50% winrate against any craft

Nice balancing cydevs.

>>180742994
>just 7k
You need to try harder if you want to stay at top 10k

>>180743121
>6 PP magic missile
>good

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>>180743046
This is just a RoB build.
Brick Destroyer is there for testing because I was feeling like I needed more Spellboost followers, but I think he will be dropped for a second Strike or Iceform.
I also tested Melvie and Bolt.
Melvie was most of the time just useless because drawing by itself is not strong enough. Daria is good draw not only for the potential free Oglers/Emmys, but also because she can have her cost reduced herself, while Melvie cannot.
Bolt is just a dumb meme and a brick.

>>180740165
:3

>>180743121
I was one of the people arguing in favor of Carabosse but it's not like she had a great showing.
They were using unoptimized decks and playing casually for showcasing purposes.

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nice meme

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>>180740165
I don't understand this Tsukomeme.

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How do you even hold a board against this powercreeped Death Sentence?

>>180743273
There was actually a point after the RoB nerfs that four crafts had 50% win rates.

It was the most balanced meta ever.

>>180743121
>using caraboose
>when emeralda exists

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>>180741230
>Post-nerf RoB was the most balanced meta we've had.
It sucks that I started playing in the middle of RoB. You guys tricked me into thinking this game was fun and balanced when it turns out I just had good timing and then ToG happened.

>>180743702
Shadow Reaper BTFO

>>180743702
just go wide bro, it's just a 2pp levi that doesn't require evo lmao

>>180743702
Not very effective against Bone Chimera and Prince Catacomb.

>>180743702
Play Shadow.

Shit board later with all the shadows you'll have. Death's Breath, Eachtar, Zombie Party. If you're lucky you might even be able to Prince Catacomb before they play it.

>>180742725
>lmao
>390 games with 100% winrate (100points) and 260 games with 100% winrate (150) points
wew
You can get 4 legends in HS in the same amount time

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>>180743702
AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGH IT'S JUST A WORSE DRAGONEWT FIST YOU WILL NEVER EVER HAVE MORE THAN 2 NEUTRALS IN HAND ANYWAY

>>180743878
>having to hit legend every month
Enjoy that grindstone.

>>180743878
HS legend resets every fucking month

>>180743678
Damn that is what I call bricking.

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>>180743586

>>180742861

come on lads I've looked on Pixiv, Nijie, the boorus, saucenao, iqdb, etc. throw me a bone here

>>180743878
You only need to tryhard once per account to live the master dream. Be a man, play a real deck that can compete with the meta once and be done with it, pussy.

What are incoming buffs for earth rites?

>>180744062
It might have been taken down if you can't find it because I remember seeing the full on Pixiv

>>180743982
That's why SV Master has no value

>>180744165
Witch's Cauldron. 1 PP Earthrite, last words, draw a card.

It's something earthrite desperately needed.

>>180744210
>I'd rather grind my face into ladder every single fucking month before I can play fun decks and dick around
Brode please go

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>go wide
B&B rapes you
>big dudes
get Assaulted

>>180744197

What now? Pray some kind anon uploads it to one of the boorus some day?

>>180744165
You can now run 6 Levis.

>>180744278
>I can play fun decks and dick around
But you can play them at any rank.

>>180744210
That's the point. The anons that are trying to say Master rank is too hard are just filthy casuals that can't even be bothered to play this game. Master is piss easy to obtain and can be done at your own rythmn, there's no excuse besides muh trash meta. If you hate the game, fuck off.

TL;DR Master has no value, but not being able to hit Master has value, it shows that you're fucking trash.

>>180743121
Carabosse is shit
B&B is good
Neutral Sword is good
Young Levi is good but probably won't be enough to save Dirt

>>180744309
Unless your own big dude is B&B.

>>180744505
Does this mean when I will get my Master in WD I can spit in your face and act like hot shit?

>>180744505
I just graduated from AA3 three days ago, shit was easy to be completely honest with dirt rune.

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>>180744505
>Master is piss easy to obtain and can be done at your own rythmn
I got it in a month or so after starting. It's pretty easy indeed. If I did it while working 4-6 hours a day, anyone can.

>tfw no new background battle stages

WHAT THE FUCK CYGAMES, GIVE ME WONDERLAND BACKGROUND YOU CHEAP FUCKS.

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Alright we have THREE (3) days until Wonderland Dreams comes out! Post how many pack's youre going to be opening and your wish list for this expansion.

>~105 packs

>3 Beauty and the Beast
>3 Elf Twins
>3 Cinderella
>3 CoCK
>2-3 Red Riding Hood
>2 Odile
>3 Spawn
>3 Snow White
>2 Lion
>3 Alice
>2 Snow
>2 Hector

I can tell I'm going to be very disappointed when the expansion hits.

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>>180743702
You don't.

So do Havencucks ever NOT draw Cudgel on t4?

>>180745128
>t. shadownigger

>>180744805
You are a namefag on fucking 4chan calling yourself "autism chan", who knows how many hours a day you played this fucking game?

>>180745128
No, just like D-shitters always have Kaleido on T2 .

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>>180744964
>3 CoCK
>3 Rapunzel
>3 Cinderella
>3 Alice
>3 Maisy
I want to live the Neutral Sword dream on day 1.

>>180745128
If its not cudgel its tribunal

>>180744964
10 and that includes the 10 free packs. I blow my load (5K gold) in TotG packs because I was fucking bored.

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>>180745249
I've played less than 150 games this expansion.I haven't even acquired any sleeves because the meta is so bad. Nowadays I just login for dailies sometimes and spend money on the daily deal until I draw the last 2 cards I need.

>>180745249
Its best to not give it attention. He is only here to fish for (yous) and derail the thread.

>>180743268
thanks

>>180741584
How? Echtar + evolve would only deal 14 damage and it would still fill the board.

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>>180745280
>they glow your plea
>they glow it AGAIN

>>180745128
if they are going second hey have +6 from mulligan and then +5 until turn 4. So they have 11 chances in 40 to get 1 card that is repeated 3 times in the deck. So you do the math.

>>180745382
>Implying we're getting any free packs after they just vomited packs at us

>>180744318
Most likely, yeah. I didn't save it unfortunately, sorry mate

>>180745229
>nigger
Um sweetie? That's racist and hurtful, please cut it out.

>>180744964
~45 packs
Hoping for abominations, Oz, Levi, and Golem assault, Anything else is just extra.

>>180744964
90 packs
Just Alice, Hector and White Cat

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>thought snow white was going to be a 1/2 (3/4)
>lol nope, stream error, enjoy your shitty 2pp goblin lego
>mfw

>>180745490
Yeah but Mutagenic bolt would have kill you first.

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>>180744964

>>180744964
50.
hoping for emblems.

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>>180745505
>drop plea
>they glow it
>drop aria
>they glow it
>drop plea + dogma
>they glow it

>>180745540
>implying RNG is not rigged

>>180745569
nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13282821

what rank is the majority of /svg/?

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>>180745797
>>180745505

>>180745708
What did Snow white did again that she is understated?

>>180745852
There were already many polls asking for individual rank. At this point most people are masters because the game has been out for enough time already and most people here started around DE.

>>180745952
comes back when it dies and then evolves itself

>>180745952
be a 2pp goblin that turns into a wardless grimnir

>>180745874
This, I always wait until the last turn to glow it. Shit is so cash

>>180744964
I can get 60 packs but I am going to open 10 totg packs for emblems

>>180745852
AA3 though I have been playing for less than 2 months.

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>>180740092
You're fucking disgusting, getting aroused at the thought of slowly running your tongue up and down fortes cleft of venus as she involuntarily spreads her legs while making cute dragon moans. It sickens me that you find her shapely plump tummy and petite pale puffy breasts so excruciatingly attractive. Just the thought of anyone wanting to throw forte on her back, lift up her thick legs over their shoulders and proceed to go balls deep in her tight sopping wet vagina twitching with excitement and almost immediately make her womb overflow with their seed - makes me want to starve myself in a misanthropic fit of rage. Irredeemable sinners, all of you.

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concede please..?
74978

>>180745987
I'm A and I'm doing my best not to climb, ranked wins dailies are a pain in the ass.

kys shadowniggers

This is the most unhealthy meta because of you. I seriously hope shadow has less than 2% playrate after this until the end of time while other classes have normal playrate to punish the shadowjews.

>>180746272
Delete this

>>180745852
AA2
I only play this game when theres new sleeves

>>180746281
>blaming the players over KMR and Cygames

>>180745852
Beginner 0

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>>180746278
Thank you kind anon.

>>180746281
It SEEMS that Neutral forest was designed to counter midrange shadow, especially with how broken assault is but I guess we will have to wait and see.

>>180746280
another A here
B is the sweet spot for sandbagging, A is already filled with tryhards

So anons, what leggo shit you'll be getting once you spend shekels in WD?

I'm expecting lots of 4pp do nothing skelly and 3pp do nothing 6/6

>>180740737
based

>>180746762
>3pp do nothing 6/6
that card can actually be useful in D-shift or some kind of aggro dirt maybe

>>180744964
50 packs without counting the free 10, probably I'll get shit card as always.

>>180746547
>It SEEMS
It doesn't seem like that to me at all. Do you even see the effect of the neutral synergy that forest has? "If you have X neutral cards in hand" then do something. Not only a shit draw will cause the cards be understated shits, but also if you spend too much resources early on to deal with aggro or even develop your own board those cards will be shit. B&B will never be good. Why? Think about it, how many cards do you think you will have in hand, as a neutral forest, when you are at turn 6? How many of them are neutral cards? Can you even make 5?
Or even 3 consistently? Forest's hand usually looks much bigger than it is because of the fairies. Without the fairies they usually have 3 or 4 "real" cards in their hand (for aggro and tempo). You want a "control" "neutral" forest? In your dream maybe.

>>180746890
>use 3pp to throw a do nothing that won't even spellboost your shit
>or use this shiny 3pp cache to get your dshift online faster

>>180747027
Just go watch the fucking stream from today. They were playing very unoptimized decks and still the Forest player had 0 problems keeping a hand. In fact, it was like the hand restriction didn't even exist.

>>180747037
>play Cache
>die to Aggro
>play Abomination
>they are forced to trade into it or they might lose their board

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>>180747194
The shadownigger deck was awful as fuck, don't judge WD decks with those games, what the fuck man.

>>180747027
JUST PLAY KHAIZA BRO

>>180747372
Yeah I'm sure a soulsquasher would have saved that game
Winning after 2 Eachtars back to back is of no merit whatsoever

>>180747194
>Test play means anything
The one thing that I am absolutely sure about any test play deck is that they will not be a meta deck. I can build a forest deck that always has full hand but I will have very low winrate against any meta deck.

>>180747372
When did I say anything about either deck being good, you fucking retard? I am talking about the fact that keeping a hand for B&B and other Neutral Forest cards is not hard.

>>180747521
The thing is that Eachtar is good when you have a board to develop and the damage you manage to give to face with it. But you can only do that if you actually have an early game that would benefit from a balanced man on curve.

>>180747521
He had almost no shadows, anon. If he play some shit on turn 2 and Chimera on turn 3, maybe Orthrus or something on turn 4 instead of Bricklord, at least the match would be closer.

KMR is one of the best things to come from Shadowverse and by extension Cygames. His smile must be protected.

>>180747772
Thank you.

>>180747723
Both test play decks are awful. Try running any neutral forest deck against shadow and see how many cards you'll have at turn 6 after you spent everything to deal with the board.

>>180747661
>test play means nothing
>test play makes me conclude X for sure
Are you retarded?

>>180747521
Shadow has to apply early pressure to force the Forest player to waste his hand. He didn't do shit in the early game, it's no surprise that he lost horribly. I shouldn't have to explain this. I'm not saying that Neutral Forest should be awful vs Midshadow or anything, I don't know, but that game was too bad to judge the state of those decks.

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heal now hag hahaha

>>180747754
>>180747765
Fuck off niggers
He had zombie party, he had death's breath, he had catacomb, he had 2 fucking Eachtars (the card this general always cries as being G FOOKING G if played on curve turn 7) AND he went first and still lost
You want to pretend it was an absolutely useless meme deck just because of the corpselord

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>>180745852
Stuck here. Can't progress any further. Waiting for WD

What exactly makes gourmet so based for t2?

>>180747765
desu he produced 2 zombies every time
also they both were playing super passive, the forest guy could've won earlier than he did, but he also comfortably dealt with both eachtars

>>180747975
If you play a naked Catacomb on 5, you've bricked and lost.

>Take Two without legendary cards

A man can dream.

>>180747942
You don't kys and lose by using it?

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Anyone have some concepts of adjusted Aggro Dirt Rune decks once the expansion hits? I'm having trouble figuring out what cards to swap out honestly.

>>180748036
>can't progress
>has Erasmus in deck
Not surprised

>>180748167
No, Mask has at least 1 tick.

>>180747942
You would have lost if it weren't for the mask. Nicely played but kys bloodwagoner

>>180747902
>Reading comprehension
Don't be a fucking retard and actually read between the lines. What it means was test play deck is shit that is not optimize (hence means nothing in a meta discussion) and because of that (I am absolutely sure) it won't be in a meta.

>>180748187
Wait for the expansion to come out. Pre-expansion theorycrafting always ends up being wrong.

>>180748167
On the last stick of Mask, its pretty much prevent any single source of damage.

>>180748042
infinite 2/2

>>180748251
Right, I'm retarded.

>>180748284
>I am sure it won't be meta because they were playtesting with unoptimized decks
You are even more retarded than I thought.

>Hahaha oh wow you think ramp dragon will be playable on ToG? Have fun getting raped by """midrange""" sword :^)
This general will never, ever learn

>>180748325
Yeah I know. Theorycrafting is always really fun though.

>>180748190
I know. Literally stuck in limbo because of WD. Can't craft anything, can't vial anything. Roach deck I have makes me vomit

>>180748258
>You would have lost if it weren't for the card you have played before to avoid defeat
wew thanks for the pointers my fellow bloodmain since beta

>>180748473
no one has ever said that

>>180748603
wtf they aren't increasing Elana's cost to 5? Enjoy another 3 months of hag dominance

>>180748530
post dick so we can fix it

>>180748603
Except the entire general before TotG

>>180748473
People are saying sword will be good? All I see usually is sword will almost be as bad as forest and the meta won't change much, just blood, shadow and dragon at top.

>>180748718
except everyone thought daria would be broken and it was

>>180748473
Pre-ToG people were spamming that Dragon would be tier 1 though.

>>180748778
Holy shit you fucking shameless liars
Want me to dig in the archives for Sibyl's announcement?

>>180748582
Not to mention the fact that it made it to turn 10 but good job beating him m8

>>180748530
That still doesn't justify the Erasmus. Drop it, it sucks. Erasmus is not even a meme, it is auto-vial tier.

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>>180748870
You can dig in the archives for the Lightning Blast announcement instead.

>>180748778
remember when people thought draconic fervor was a 5pp do nothing

>>180743884
If you play it precisely on curve maybe.
Even then, that's a 2 mana fuck 80% of all 1 or 2 drops in existence.
Face it, if Neutral Forest goes anywhere, it will be because of this card.
These elves will fuck you until you love it.

>>180749012
Yeah that's a good one too, you absolute morons actually thought shadow would be tier 3 because of it!

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>>180748870
That was only before most of the cards were announced. A lot of edits like pic related and many others were made after all cards were revealed, and every thread started with people posting shit like "Reminder that Dragon will be tier 1" or similar.

>>180748774
Yeah man that Daria will be strong forever. The piercing rune nerf wasn't anywhere near enough, Rune will keep dominating in ToG.

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>>180749098
/svg/ thought that nep would be trash because of LB, not shadow. And they were right.

>>180749087
that's exactly what it is
I guarantee you dragon loses more often when they play that card than when they don't

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>>180749106
I know, dragon went on to become the best class and shadow fell back to DE tier because of lightning blast.

>>180744210
This. Master is not a competitive title at all like Legend is in HS. It's a glorified participation medal and the overall structure of ladder is half of why the meta is so shit.

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>>180748727
+x1 Calamitous Curse and x2 Alchemical Lore
and Erasmus

>>180748870
Remember when people wanted Sibyl to increase the mana cap for Dragon?

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>>180749326
Yep, nep absolutely became trash against ramp dragon

>>180749379
Nice backpedaling. I didn't say anything about Shadow.

>>180749447
vial erasmus
craft x3 levi (its staple and will always be)

>>180749546
We are discussing how shit this place is are at predictions, you hyped up lightning blast for the completely wrong reasons and in the end it wasn't even the card that made ramp dragon finally good

>>180749326
They thought shadow was dead because Nep was considered broken by retards (dragon) and was the only viable shadow deck, which was now unusable. Agrro was supposed to die entirely in ToG, according to /svg/, because all the elf healing and Grimnir.
Nobody even thought about Hecror serioisly. That's how wrong /svg/ is.

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>yfw midshadow and lamp poryphonic loal dlagon gets daria'd in WD

>>180749558
>its staple and will always be
But it's 2400 vials. What if rune going to be trash in WD? Too risky

>>180749542
Nice post nerf image, fucking retard.
Nep's winrate vs Dragon in RoB fell from 70% to ~55% after LB.

>>180748447
Are you implying that playtesting decks will be in the meta?

>>180749839
Hahaha oh wow only a 55% winrate I guess it's a trash matchup now WOW WOW

>>180749838
Crafting staples is never worthless because at worst you'll use it for dailies.

>>180749946
>you'll use it for dailies.
just rope

>>180749902
No, I am calling you out on the senseless conclusions you are drawing.

>>180749717
People thought forest was tier 1 at the start of totg, especially when a few people brought forest decks to a tournament early on

>>180749838
You use old fart for dailies especially if you reroll for that win 1 rune shit. Or go full nigger by making dshit and make cbloodspawn fags life hell.

>>180750141
Nobody thought that.

>>180749542
Those are post nerf. You fucking mongoloid. Before them LB would destroy any nep deck.

>>180749717
>Nobody even thought about Hecror serioisly.
And the same people who completely overlooked Eachtar now type with a straight face that it will be the best forever and nothing's gonna change then get mad when called out

>>180750242
They absolutely did, with jungle "albert", they even thought elf queen was op as fuck

>kill a 2/5 and 4/4 for 2pp
>people unironically think its not going to be good
>"we're going to focus on neutrals this expansion"
>forest and sword get the most neutral support
>people unironically think they aren't going to be good

My god you D0 retards and your delusions.

>>180749717
I don't want to go into semantics on what is aggro/midrange, but ToG is slower than RoB imo. RoB was a rushdown fiesta with aggro shadow/aggro blood/daria trying to seal games on t6 with no good control decks to stop them. Ramp Dragon and Aegis/Seraph are solid choices in ToG to ruin those t6 kill decks. The game is still fast as fuck, don't get me wrong, but pure aggro decks can't freewin as easily as before.

>>180750413
What card are you talking about?

>>180750130
Did you just recently found out about how to debate online and forgot how normal human interaction works?

>>180750141

there was that one tournament early on with envybear as the announcer and they said that forest had a low winrate overall in that tournament but when you look at the top 8 it has one of the highest so forest is looking good

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>>180749839
>>180750291
Hahahaha you fucking dishonest cunts
This is the absolute lowest point I could find for nep against ramp dragon at any time during ToG
UNPLAYABLE

>>180750508
the one that requires you to have 5 (five) neutral cards in your hand to do what he said

>>180750641
>People are surprised a deck that needs to hit 8 PP naturally would lose handily to Ramp Dragon

???

>>180750413
I think Sword will be very strong, and I'm unironically buying into the neutral sword T1 meme. It might not be THE meta-defining deck, but it'll be a solid choice if you want to climb. I'm not entirely sure about Forest, but Twin Elf and B&B seem absolutely disgusting yeah.

>>180750747
Can you read?

>>180750409
>remember explaining how unga warden was not that great because making it to turn 10 with forest is a struggle
>not anywhere near as good as Albert because it's pretty mediocre card without the enhance
>retards who don't play forest try to tell me I'm completely wrong

One of the most overrated cards from the expansion.

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>>180750747
JUST DRACONIFICATION BRUH

>>180750409
let's be real though
erin is totally busted and it's a surprise she can't solo carry the craft

>Bad Aegis (not even aegis since it can't stay on board and dies to any damage and JUST THERMIS BRO)
>Bad Botanist/Sage Commander
>ETA a.k.a 3 dead cards in hand when you draw badly and unreliable board clear (random targets lmao) that can't clear shadow's board
>Bad Ancient Elf
>Potential combo activator in a neutral deck when you don't need them in a neutral deck
>Don't forget that all followers are understated because they have strong conditional effect!

Where is the neutral forest support again?

>>180751012
>dies to just themis
but it doesn't?

>>180751012
>Bad Aegis (not even aegis since it can't stay on board and dies to any damage and JUST THERMIS BRO)
How about you read B&B again,?

>>180751012
>B&B dies to themis

Every fucking time. You think you retards would learn to read after every other expansion.

>>180751012
READ NIGGA READ

3 days to go boys, keep the heat up

>>180751109
>>180751115
>Dies to 2 zombies by headless commissar

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>>180750912
>draconification

FGO today!

>>180751180
>>180751162
>>180751115
>>180751109
Don't be rude, Havenbabbies doesn't need to know how to read cards

>>180751214
>Le balanced man of no head coming out on turn 6
What's next, it does to bane?

>>180751214
>9/10
>Dies to two 4/2s
Fuck guys, how do I count? I never made it past 2nd grade

>>180751279
>Having 5 neutral cards in hand as forest on turn 6

Maybe if the shadowbab bricked and didn't play anything so you don't have to respond to anything.

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>>180750995
>alright, if he doesn't heal or ward he's dead
>aerin

>>180751401
>evolve one

So you guys actually think B&B is going to be good or just memeing? Reply to this post I want to screencap them all and show you guys again once the meta has settled.

Notice how the complaint about B&B used to be that it would be borderline impossible to get both buffs at once
Now that it's obvious that the card is actually extremely easy to make consistent the complaints have shifted to WELL YOU CAN JUST CRASH YOUR BOARD INTO IT :^)
Fucking contrarian assholes

>>180751568
Good

>>180751457
what's there to respond with? How can he deal with a turn 6 9/10? Death's breath when he conveniently has 6 shadows? What else does our little shadownigger conveniently have to counter the current situation?

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>>180751465
>losing to forest

>>180751457
Read it again

>>180751568
Meme.

>>180751568
I don't think it will be good. It seems hard to make it to turn 6 with 5 cards in your hand (3 neutral) and a boardstate where you will win by playing it

>>180751457
Yeah dude it was muh bricks, ignore that a fully buffed B&B came out in literally every forest match
If only that shadowbab had played a soulsquasher

>>180740702
>3 unplayable classes
>healthy

>>180751629
>Turn 1 play nothing
>Turn 2 play nothing
>Turn 3 play nothing
>Turn 4 play nothing
>Turn 5 play nothing
>At least I can now have a 9/10 """"""""""""""""Aegis""""""""""""""" on board turn 6

Do seriously expect to have 5 neutral cards in your hand on turn 6 if you are trying to win the game?

>>180751792
The only """unplayable""" class was shadow (and only against haven) and it was obviously for the best

>>180751568
B&B would have been good if the buffs were the other way around, but neutral forest is going to be a meme so the card won't be very good

>>180751568
good meme

>people saying that Forest won't have a hand for B&B ever
Literally the same thing people were saying about Eachtar and shadows.
/svg/ doesn't understand the concept of "building a deck around a card". It's way too complex to them. Let's just ignore the fact that an unoptimized Neutral Forest deck on stream today pulled off a fully buffed B&B every game as well as FUCKING SILVER BOLT. Yeah, it's definetely completely impossible for Forest to have a hand.

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>>180751925
>People on /svg/ are THIS retarded

>>180751494
Then you might as well say dies to Eachtar + 1 Zombie + evolve dumb backpeddler

>>180751925
Thanks for giving me so many (You)s but I appreciate it if you can read cards. Come back tomorrow after checking the site out, okay?
Maybe think about it a little.

>>180751925
Yeah truly my dude there's no way for neutrals to maintain hand size goblin mage and feena have never seen play and that white cat will be trash
Carrot man? Absolute garbage card hahaha

>>180751925
>play nothing
>5 neutral cards
(You)

>>180751925
>this is hagfag

>>180752017
Even if the only Forest card in your hand is B&B, if you want to get the full effect off on turn 6 you have to have not play anything for like 3 turns.

>>180752132
shh don't tell them

>>180752017
Only because the shadow player bricked anon
I know that he played zombie party, death's breath and 2 eachtars but if only he had played soulsquasher at some point he would have surely won

B&B posses no threat to Haven, Rune, Dragon and Shadow.
Haven can heal/ward until Aegis comes out, evolve it and take it out. If Forest builds a deck around B&B, there's no threat of le balanced 17 damage roach combo.
It's only scary against Blood, but only slightly since they can heal and throw out overstatted followers. That only leaves Sword, who can't Tsubaki and best answer to ram Albert into it and hope Forest doesn't play another one.
Good thing Sword will be above 5% play rate am I right? :^)

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>>180752132
>opponent plays Cinderella or Princess Kiss
>your response is a gobu or kaiza

>>180752017
People here don't play forest, what did you expect?

@180752309
>soulsquasher
kys my man

>>180752249
>what is Khaiza
>what is Gobu
>what is Feena
>what is S-S-S-Sexy Pose!!!
>what is Flower Princess
>what is drawing at the start of your turn every turn

>>180752017
People didn't think eachtar is shit because they lack shadows to play it. It was only the shadowjew kept saying "muh 7 drop again" "We need good cards but not another 7 drop".

Also if you can build a neutral forest deck with good hand size that might actually work, why don't you try and build one for us to see since all the cards are out?

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>>180752332
>B&B t6 play
>just evolve your aegis and trade it bro

>>180752339
Tell me how many decks other than Haven going first can respond a Princess Kiss or a turn 3 4/4.

>>180752249
nigger i haven't even touched forest
and i know they have more hand generation than every other class
even if its mostly fairies
i suppose if you want to fulfil the neutral clause you'd have to run looking glass but as a neutral orientated deck its probably a 3-of to begin with

>>180752339
Well at least we are getting you to admit neutral sword will be a thing
It's a start

>>180752406
yeah with those you have a better chance but be reminded that you have forestcraft cards in your deck too

Insight
Sammy, Wizard Apprentice
Apprentice Alchemist
Timeworn Mage Levi
Dwarf Alchemist
Freshman Lou
Magic Missile
Kaleidoscopic Glow
Teachings of Creation
Enchanted Library
Sorcery Cache
First Curse
Witch Bolt
Merlin
Fissure Bomb
Ancient Alchemist
Magic Girl Melvie
Fate's Hand
Master Alchemist
Disaster Witch
Arcane Enlightenment
Daria, Dimensional Witch

Trail of Light
Goblin Mage
Gourmet Emperor Khaiza
Uriel
Fortunehunter Feena
Goblin Princess
Call of Cocytus
Spellbook Decryption

Wizardess of Oz
Golem Assault
Mysterian Grimoire
Witch's Cauldron

Snow, Whitecat Sage
Into the looking Glass

That's pretty much an entire list of cards that do something and draw cards, draws 2+ cards, or fills your hand with tokens for Awakened Abomination.

Obviously some of the cards are shit but I'd just list them because they fulfill one of the criteria. I honestly dont expect Daria and Awakened Abomination to be in the same deck.

>>180752332
>every deck is forced to throw evolves and multiple bodies at it to kill it
>no threat

>>180751947
Dragon and Blood were just as unplayable. DE was unga the meta, every single viable deck had a single uninteractive gameplan (except forest which always could just roach you to death as backup, making it the dominant class) and so the true aggro/midrange classes that couldn't storm to victory or play a win combo were useless. DE ruined the game.

>>180752332
>ignore B&B because Forest has no burn without roach
>t7 Arriet on B&B for 16 damage

>>180752635
dirt rune will just petrify it

>>180752674
You can transform and banish it as well, you don't have to just trade

>>180752706
Both aggro blood and face dragon had a comfortable >50% winrate

>>180744964
76 packs, no legos and all the shit golds.

>>180752716
>Playing against forest
>Don't have any ward
Might as well put a noose around your neck familia.

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>>180752716
>ignore B&B
>elf drops a second one

>>180752776
>Dirt Rune
Poor Jeb

>>180752793
Not in tournaments they didn't.

>>180752662
At the very least half of your deck is Neutrals (ideally more, since all of your cards want you to have multiple Neutrals), and all of the cards I listed other than Princess generate either generic draw or Neutrals.
It's not hard to have 3 Neutrals for the "Aegis" effect. The only issue you MIGHT have sometimes is having 5 cards in hand for the +2/+2, but it was a non-issue in the stream, and so it should be even less of an issue for an optimized deck.

>>180752789
You can't play Odin in response to it if you aren't Dragon, and transform/pretrification isn't that common. It's counterable, but you have to tech against it to counter it, what means it does indeed pose a threat.

>>180752968
>it was a non-issue when playing against an unoptimized deck, so it will be even less of an issue against a good deck

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Remember guys, if forest somehow manage to be the best deck in this expansion again, you should all rejoice, since it means healthy meta will be back. In the history that forest is at top, there are always a few more meta deck that can compete with it while all the other classes had a healthy playrate. So forest becoming top tier is actually a way to save Shadowverse from its downfall.

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Will Seraph be relevant again, lads?

>>180753139
There'll never be a healthy meta unless aggro blood is viable.

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>>180752339
Actually the response to that is a 10 damage 2pp spell