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tekken is pretty good
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You have TEN (10) seconds to explain why you aren't playing based Vampire Savior RIGHT NOW!
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>>180739983
never heard of it
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i love sfv
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Hi guys, new Sim player here. I have trouble keeping out Giefs full screen. Is there a certain normal I should use to do so?
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>>180740080
Those are also like the only sales from the bigger name games.

The other jew devs need to step it up.
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>>180739983
Because you keep reposting this.
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>>180740094
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>>180740094
Just mash HK or cr.HP
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FUCK STREET FIGHTER 5

IT RUINED THIS GENERAL
IT RUINED THE FGC
IT RUINED ESPORTS
IT RUINED MARVEL
IT RUINED EVERYTHING
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creepy cool shit characters?
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>get a 5 bar match
>accept
>win the 1st match easily with no problems
>getting ready for the 2nd match
>3 bars on the rematch screen
>tfw i will never know if i won fairly or the lag was all on his side the whole march
Oh jive...
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>>180740405
forget about it and play tekken
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>>180740094
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>>180740453
>kappa
>playing games
LOL he could be playing other fighting games yet here he is, complaining about sfv.
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>Play SSB
>Friends complain I spam with Samus and Villager
>They say that I play like a faggot and have no skill

Who is in the wrong here?
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>>180740609
See me in 2 hours you dumb asshole
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>>180739717

True but I mean there is no good response. "Disney are literally ruining the game so it can better advertise the movies and thus the marvel side doesn't give a shit/actively sabotages the game"

I just feel bad for him honestly. Not like he doesn't know it's bullshit. Especially since there was literally just a really well received wolverine movie.
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>>180740453
Not until it gets fixed
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>>180740736
Sure, my cfn is DougYanceyFunnie
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>Get a gamestop gift card for my birthday
>Already have SFV, T7, and GGRev2

Which should I get today, Injustice2 or KoFXIV
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>>180740805
what's broken for you?
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>trying to figure out punishers for a character without a guide
yeah nah, it really helps to know that a launcher is either 16 or 18 on startup and a move I try to punish against might also not be entirely accurate on frame data X-DD

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa is there any good up to date master raven guide out there
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>>180740748
What he couldve said is "for the players who miss the playstyles of characters that didnt make it in we have those" rather than babbling about functions.

He is in a shit spot though.
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Play katarina.
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>>180740827
SFV costumes
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>>180740405

didn't
ruin
my
game
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>>180740827
playblue
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>>180740827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYCuE3LbFBQ
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>>180740836
Matchmaking and input lag
That the only reason why i havent bought it already
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>>180739983
I don't own it
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>>180740660
You for posting it here, Smash isn't a fighting game
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Do PCfags play SFV with vsync off?
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>>180741037
>Input lag

I love how SFV gave yet another reason for shitters to hide behind
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>>180740865

Yeah. I mean he's right as far as it goes. The function thing is essentially true. It's just a stark way of putting it that doesn't address the fact that people actually like the characters.

Disney really needs its ass kicked over this though. They do this kinda nonsense constantly. They're scaling back x-men comics because of the lack of movie rights, etc. They literally don't give a shit and fans need to pressure them. The problem is that fans shout at Marvel. And that's what Disney wants, because Marvel can take the blame, wring its hands and say placating lies, then release a movie and Disney rakes in the cash.

Don't get me wrong, fuck Marvel for their SJW agenda pushing in the last couple years. I'm not a big Marvel fan lately. But still, I can see where this is very obviously coming from.
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>>180741037
I think they fixed the matchmaking on PS4 already and it was never an issue on PC. And I don't feel any input lag on PC. Never tried the PS4 version so I can't comment on that.
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Reminder that when evaluating if a game is good or bad all that really matters is if the characters faces look good.
And if you don't agree with this and instead consider silly things like game mechanics and stuff to be important then you are an obvious shill for disagreeing with the obvious truth of my enlightened mind.
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>>180741037
matchmaking is fine and input lag is like 6f you diaper
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>>180741207
>I don't feel any input lag on PC.
eat shit
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>>180740876
No. I don't care for cosmetics enough to use real world dollars™ for that

>>180740920
I forgot to mention I also already own BBCF. I really like fighting games.

>>180740921
Thank you very much!
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>>180740827
If a 60€ doesnt have the same value as 60€ shouldnt it be cheaper?
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Why can't we get new succesful fighting games?
Every game at EVO is a sequel, most of them being from series that are decades ikd
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You think its worth grabbing the latest blazblue?
Are they releasing any more additions to the series or is it "done" now?

Wouldn't want to buy it and then theres no cheap upgrade option. *cough* *cough* Guilty Gear Xrd.

Is the game active still? Any characters worth trying out, or do I just stick to Taokaka and Arakune?
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>>180741395
built-in fanbase
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>>180741435
BB is officially done.

>*action*
Not in my general, please.
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>>180741435
You can find plenty of people to play with yeah. And it's apparently the last version so it should be the standard for a few years until the series gets rebooted in a few years. There's only 3 really unplayably bad characters. Tao and Arakune are fine.
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>>180741302
It's 6.3f WITH vsync and vsync adds 3.3f in SFV so I assume it'll add about the same in T7
If you think 3f input lag on PC is too much you're beyond help.
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>>180740405
You could, you know, play non-capcom games.
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>>180741435
>Want a game that won't get new updates
>Want a game that's still active

It's one or the other kid, you don't get both
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>>180741565
Do the console versions have vsync?
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>>180741767
I'm not sure how consoles work to be honest
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were the blazblue games actual sequels to blazblue or were they just updates to the first game? 7 years worth of incrimental change to the same game seems like a lot.
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>>180741435
It's supposedely the last iteration, they said they can patch it but are not making other versions.
There are 7 new characters, seems you like scummy shit so maybe you should try izanami.
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>>180741565
did you pull those numbers out of your ass
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>>180741896
There's been a lot of big system changes between games.
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which is the most cost effective ggxrd rev 2 bundle to get on steam?

is it the Revelator Deluxe or the "All in one DLC characters + Rev 2" ?
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>>180741237
6f + 1~4f depending on connection. 10f of lag total feels terrible.
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>>180741969
https://twitter.com/noodalls/status/871285566389731332 no idea why he only tested with vsync on

the input lag numbers I got from pic related but I used the offline values, the online ones are a bit higher so that would put t7's online input lag at around 4.5f. I assume vsync functions similarly in the two games because they're both UE4.
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>>180741551
> there's only 3 unplayably bad characters

who dat
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>>180741181
I heard that many of the issues with all this shit come from marvel too.
Not like it matters, its all the same right now.
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>>180742014
Yes, the $45 one. People have complained on the forums but not sure how much anything gets read there. It's a fairly large turn off to try getting people into the game but they don't know what to buy and the deluxe versions are misleading.
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>Inout lag shitters again

You wouldnt take a single round of JDCR if he was playing with 20 frames of lag and you with 0
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Reminder tekken 7 has the most input lag out of any fighting game ever made

http://shoryuken.com/2017/06/02/tekken-7s-input-delay-has-been-tested-heres-how-it-compares-to-other-games-and-its-predecessors/
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>>180742106
>online
>ping 1ms
what
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>>180739724
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>>180742128
Kagura, Noel and maybe Susanoo?
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anyone for some jive?
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>>180741896
Mechanics changed in every game, and I don't mean just adding new ones, some were removed, some were modified. Characters also changed a lot with new moves and stuff. They really were changing the game completely, it's actually what turned me off the series personally as I kept having to relearn my character since so much stuff changed.
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>>180742216
So basically rev2 is not on sale?

Good to know, I can hold off buying it for another month.
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>>180742397
Why does the god of BB suck?
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>>180742397
Not him but I'd say bullet noel and kagura.
Also in bb the shit tier can compete against mid and a lot of the high tiers but against top characters it is a real struggle.
I don't see how bullet fights rachel for example, rachel seems like she can pretty much do anything she wants in the matchup.
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Play Arcana Dyke 3 Sniff Max!!!!!
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>tfw i left my chinger-changur nigger dagger at home
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>>180742570
Rev 2 is considered DLC to Rev on steam. You cannot purchase it standalone, you must have Rev1.
Rev1 is on sale during the summer sale.
Therefore, Rev2 is on sale if you don't already own Rev1.

I figured this out after a cursory steam search. Surely you could've figured out the same.
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Why is everybody on here that isn't guzzling the capcum so quick to be called out as an r/kappa drone

Also is Rev2 going to get additional characters in the future
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>>180742570
Rev2 isn't even a month old why the fuck would it be on sale
PC players are so stingy
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>>180739983
the mizuumi wiki's training mode mod doesnt work
cant play any games i cant trainingboar in until i know my bnbs/oki
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Play Kazumi
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>>180742762
>when you find it in your back pocket
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>>180742316
yea but even JDCR has stated he dislikes the lag in t7. a game should feel as responsive as humanly possible. i dont get this excuse about making 'offline and online feel similar'

what's the point of that? barring any insurmountable tech hurdles the input lag should be as low as developers can get it without comprising the integrity of the game.
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>>180742316
Yes, but it would also be extremely hypocritical to shit on sfv for the same thing for months and give tekken a pass
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>>180742628
Susan has some gorilla normals and big damage and can kill you quickly if he gets the ball rolling and unlocks specials, the problem is it can be hard to start the momentum in some matchups and if he doesn't he doesn't get his tools.
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>>180742856
>is Rev2 going to get additional characters in the future
Doubt it because in all previous ArcSys games the DLC characters already had placeholder data for them in the game and there's nothing for another character in Rev2
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>>180742628
Is that rhetorical or are you asking what makes him a bad character?
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>fgc tournament attendance and viewer numbers are down across the board
the fgc
is
DEAD
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>>180743036
thanks for the knowledge friend
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>>180743010
it's okay when literally anyone but capcom does it
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>>180742816
But it's not cheaper to buy that because the cheapest Rev doesn't come with Kum, Dizzy, and Raven. The bundle is cheaper and has all the characters while you end up spending 53.18 if you buy the "sale" Rev+DLC characters and 53.75 if you buy the cheapest and then the characters/upgrade piecemeal.
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>>180742984
I do...
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>>180742984
Rather play the succ.
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>>180742816
It's more expensive to buy Revelator on sale than it is to buy the bundle which is still at normal price.
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>>180742816
Rev 2 isn't on sale so if you buy the discounted Rev 1 + Rev 2 + Dlc Characters it is still more than the Rev 1 + 2 + DLC characters bundle which isn't on sale.

What I wanted to know simply is which version do I need to purchase that gets me all the characters and is most cost effective. Like the other poster pointed out, the non-discounted All in One is still a better deal than any of the discounts.
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>>180743050
nah just sfv :^)
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>>180743025
Pretty much. A ton of characters just won't let him get started at all, and he has nothing at his disposal if he doesn't.

At round start, he's arguably the worst character in the game. But even IF he "gets started" and builds meter + unlocks specials, he's not all that amazing. He doesn't go from shit to godlike, he goes from shit to pretty good, while some characters are godlike in the first place. He doesn't have the tools to get the ball rolling, and it's not a big enough ball even if it does get rolling.
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>>180743050
tekken is up
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Xrd Sign was more balanced on release than BB's ever been in 7 years, that's pretty sad.
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>>180743556
ok what what tier is this titty beast then
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>>180743742
Scrub-Killer tier.
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>>180742984
>>180743201
Such a good kitty
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>>180743742
>those thighs
fucking disgusting.
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>>180743725
Because GG is a purist fighting game with no bullshit and BB is a gimmick fighter (literally) where everyone has unique bullshit
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>>180720123
The wall in T7 feels infinitely scarier than the corner in SFV. You also either perfect the other player or the other player perfects you. Great fun.
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>>180742178

They do come from marvel but marvel is owned by disney.
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>>180743742
C-Tier, with a caveat based on how intricate your knowledge of BB game mechanics is if you are fighting against her.

If you are very well versed in IB punishing, she falls apart despite having monstrously large moves. If you are not, she rolls over you like a truck until you become so.
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>>180743971
>GG has no gimm-
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>>180742762
>>180742992

Can't wait to see all those people flock to him for DBZF tutorial videos
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>>180742984
Rather play the cute.
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>>180744228
Think they referring specifcially to XRD.

Still not wholely correct, but Bridget's mindnumbing Yo-Yo sets don't come into play there.
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>>180743742
calm down Rashid
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>>180744228
are those the directions his cock will wobble while he's getting fucked up the arse
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>>180744228
Bridget is a pretty shitty character.
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Can I delete/move the Tekken 7 story videos and cinematics and shit after playing through the story mode? I have an SSD and 60gb is too big for this game. I just don't want to be tagged as a hacker or whatever if I mess with the game files.
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https://youtu.be/mswbLexkPTA

Why aren't you playing the most fun character in the game?
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>>180744228
This is literally a Drive
I'm pretty sure Bridget was the inspiration to BlazBlue. Explains how Noel looks so much like him.
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>>180744428
I do, her name is I-no
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>>180744428
execution barrier
I can't reliably 360/720 to save my life.
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>>180742984
Play the robot!
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>>180744428
i don't play dishonest characters
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>>180744428
>Why aren't you playing the most fun character in the game?
But I already play Kollin
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>>180744726
Then Zangief is perfect for you!
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>>180744357
There are some characters in Xrd that feel more like Blazblue characters where they have one specific gimmick. Like Jack-O.

Like if they changed all of her cooldown abilitys to map to her Dust button, she would literally be from blazblue.
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>>180744589
you dont need to do the full motion. 1 270 or 2 270s is enough. you can also buffer the 720 behind a move.
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>>180743725
>SIGN Sin
>SIGN Elphelt

lol
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>>180744857
Sin is still stupid
Elphelt is still stupid
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>>180744857
Neither of them had a 8-2 match-up
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>>180744228
Weeeee heheheheeeeee
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Will my PS3 TE2s work on PS4?
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>>180745023
For legacy games yeh
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>>180744992
they made this character specifically for void didn't they
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>>180745023
Are there even any fighting games on PS4 that don't work with PS3 sticks/
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holy shit capcom has the worst pr people i've ever seen.

why not just say something like "we're looking at adding xmen characters in the future" instead of trying to rationalize it away?
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>>180744938
>SIGN Sin vs Potemkin

lol
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Does DBFZ mean no more characters for Rev2?
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>>180745218
Yeah also P5A dream is dead.

We lost bros
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>>180745103
>>180745132
Tekken 7 won't work then? There's a local coming up and I really don't want to drop the cash for a PS4 stick.
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>>180745154
because marvel literally will not let them

and marvel probably told them not to talk too much about that fact

marvel is trying to tank the xmen franchise into nothing so that they can get the movie rights back, same with fantastic 4. That's why you don't see xmen/f4 toys anymore, and the merch you do see from them are movie licensed versions
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>>180745154
You'll get xmen when fox gives up movie rights back to disney/marvel.
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>>180742628

>Dash has a wind up animation for some reason
>Retardedly specific combos for the specials you want that can get fucked based on your confirms
>Three of the specials are butt
>Reliance on universal mechanics for defense because of bad reversal options

He's fun, but impossible to play against turbo gorillas like Nine
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>>180745289
P5 just came out and spoilers for it are still considered fresh. I wouldn't expect P5A for like another 3 years.
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Anyone EU PC wanna play Rev 2?
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>>180745218
I sure hope not. There are still a few good things they've left behind
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>>180745338
how the fuck do you lose the rights to something you made?
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When's Zappa?
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>>180745427
I'll play
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The change to sparrowhawk stance in Rev2 is great and made Axl so much better to play against.

Original sparrowhawk was stupid and gay
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>>180745294
ps3 sticks work with tekken 7

Also works with
Rev 1/2
SFV
KOFXIV
Injustice 2
MKX
SG
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wwt_Vh_a3M

DBZF movelist shown in action. Heavy versions of specials cost 1 meter.
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why did they take away baiken's alpha counter
xrd feels so fucking watered down
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>>180744228
Arcsys loves gimmicks and GG is the original gimmick game (maybe the second if you count world heroes)
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>>180745434
When marvel was broke and on the verge of going out of business they sold all their movie rights to various studios. Then they hit gold with the MCU movies and they desperately want xmen back so they can make even more money

but fox knows this so they are just sitting on the rights and probably asking for an insane amount to sell it back
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>>180745552
This game looks worse than P4A, with the AH3 homing dashes and the huge overlap in movesets. Why didn't they just make it like Nitroplus Blasterz where you get to pick 2 assists instead?
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>>180745504
Thanks, anon. I appreciate the infom.
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>>180745575
You can still use Azami from blockstun sorta.
Sakura follow up is still strong from my experience. Then again I only just played around with her for a small bit after she came out, and don't really care about Baiken.
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>>180745494
Alright, lobby id is ntyr
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>>180745785
Can't see the room, what's your steam, I can join via your profile.
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>>180745751
>Azami in blockstun
>have to not only predict if your opponent is going to attack, but also timing
>also, there are a lot of ways to work around each counter, so in essence you have to guess twice for one success
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>>180745552
The more I see of this game the less I like it. People said arcsys would bring in a ton of gameplay diversity but it looks like the exact opposite. This game looks like it's going to be very simple and boring
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>>180745434
they sold the movie rights to fox back when they didn't realize that marvel movies could make shit tons of money. Now under MCU they could make xmen/f4 a super profitable movie franchise, and fox keeps demonstrating that they cannot draw in a movie crowd

so fox is holding the rights ransom because they know how much it'll be worth to marvel. In response, marvel is tanking the properties so that they're worth nothing, so fox has no choice but to keep paying to renew the rights, or sell them back to marvel at a reasonable price
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>>180742984
I do!
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>>180744992
Can't believe ruu is the #1 player in AC+R with that shit.
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>>180744836
yeah ive tried for hours, can never get it to work
i have everything else down, tiger knees for days etc but could never get 360 and 720 inputs to work consistently so i gave up

it would help if the game had a way of showing you what you were doing vs what you needed to do like GG but i dont care enough to bother, i just ignore grapplers instead
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>>180745946
Weird, never had that problem before. Steam id is qwiblez
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>>180746016
Even then, Capcom could've provided a much more neutral response than something like "all you care about are playstyles so here they are".

They could've said something like "at this time, we have no plans to add X-men, but maybe in the future".
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>>180746016
>fox keeps demonstrating that they cannot draw in a movie crowd

Logan was kino
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>>180746104
to do a 360 you just do f,df,d,db,b,ub+button or in number notation 632147+Button (or the reverse, doesnt matter).

720 is a little harder but most of the time you buffer it by pressing say, crouching mk with gief and then doing the 720 while the animation is still going and hitting the button as soon as it ends. it just takes a little practice. like i get 720s being hard but 360s are just as easy to do as a hadoken.
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>>180744938
>sign sin vs sign potemkin

9-1
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>>180745575
it is.
>yrc
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>>180745182
>>180746405

>Using Pot matchups

That's basically easy mode.
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>>180746389
look man it just doesn't come out reliably no matter what i try

ive spent hours trying it
i have every trial in sfv completed except for geifs
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>>180745727
>>180745990
Sucks to be you guys.
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>buy umvc3
>realize i'd just be sitting in training room all day
>refund it
this sale is shit. literally nothing to buy. why are the kuso poverty games still $15
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>>180746856
>15 bucks
>a lot of money

pfft, something other than the games is poverty here
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>>180746856
The days of actual good sales ended a few years ago. Now that Steam has a huge userbase they don't need to do big sales to attract users anymore.
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>>180745727
>>180745990

>/v/kappa kiddos actually thought that anime shovelware would be better than Marvel

At least Persona had a unique concept and a diverse cast, DBFZ is like that theoretical game where everyone is some variant of Ryu.

It can still be good, but the idiots shilling it as a Marvel slayer are going to be btfo in short order.
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Would Marvel 3 still be popular if it didn't have tod combos?
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>>180745953
Boohoo the baiken player has to actually think now
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>>180745990
bro, it has vegeta. this shit is HYPE

OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAND
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>>180745727
I wonder when Arc is going to give us the recent Ultimax patch. It sure has been a long time...
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>>180745552
arcsys trying their best to kill the hype
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>>180739982
this desu
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>>180747084
i still think the game is going to do pretty damn good sales-wise just because of how good it looks, but yeah once people actually play it the game is going to die pretty fast. the DB community is going to hate it once they realize this is just like any other traditional fighting game and you'll have to spend a lot of time practicing shit
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>>180747084
they could've done a smaller, more diverse cast with dedicated assists.
everyone always ends up picking the same 3 assists anyway: zoning fireball, meaty fireball that stays out for a long time, and reversal.
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>>180739724
>tfw use a different method of control for each of my favorite fighting games
>Xbox 360 gamepad for Tekken 7
>PS4 Hori Fighting Stick Mini 4 for SFV
>PS4 gamepad for KOF 13
>PS3 gamepad for Skullgirls
>Game Cube gamepad for Soul Calibur 2
>Keyboard and mouse for ArcheBlade
T-this is normal, right?
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>>180747162
The popularity of marvel is despite how broken it is, not because of it.
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how many arcade sticks do you own
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>>180747273
What if they did a Dragonball fighter instead of Z? Dragonball had cool fighting styles and it was more like a kung fu movie. DBZ gave everyone flight, teleportation, and fireballs.
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>>180747273
At least Arc Sys will get some good money for it
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>Capcum kiddies trying to shit on DBFZ
Lmao
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>>180747484
5
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>>180747281
>they could've done a smaller, more diverse cast with dedicated assists.

There are people already crying bitch tears on Kappa and Eventscrubs about Arcsys only wanting to include characters in the upper tiers of strength so they can't play as shit like Chiaotzu or Yajirobe or some other random bullshit.

A small cast for a fanservice game is bad news.
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>>180747562
that sounds pretty awesome
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>>180747752
are there people who actually expected chaotzu or yajirobe
like yajirobe was on his way out after dragonball's piccolo arc and chaotzu disappeared after the vegeta arc lmao
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>>180747752
>A small cast for a fanservice game is bad news.

I don't know what anyone else expected. Only the popular characters are going to get in, it's a fighting game not a dress up budokai simulator with 200 clones
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>>180747484
2 but I want a third by the end of the year
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Why cantt they just make everyone in DBFZ balanced? This assist only shit is wack.
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can piccolos go super saiyan
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So those of you who aren't bad at these games, do you have time for anything else or do you play a specific game only, for weeks and months to get better?
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>>180748014
The game hasn't even released yet.
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>>180748061

super namek
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at least unist is coming out soon to save fighting games.
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>>180748228
Save them from what?
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>>180748061
I hope they dont make my boy an assisting bitch
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>>180736338
so marvel vs capcom 3.
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>>180748202
do they change colors in super namek modo
i remember nameks can merge or something too
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>>180748126
i'm diamond, 200 hrs played
i play tons of different games and have several hobbies so i only have time to take one fighting game somewhat seriously. i watch gooby, bb, and marvel sometimes though.
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>>180748382
no you retard
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i just realized i haven't booted up sfv since ed and the new patch dropped

game is ded
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Will there ever be a fighting game that eclilpses the current community? Kind of like how DotA 2 completely eclipsed the entire RTS genre.
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>>180748126
i just play lots of fighting games because skills transfer over just fine and i have a strong local scene.
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>>180748649
>new character gets released
>play for two days
>drop it til the next character
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>>180747752
I've just realized there won't be any waifus on the cast, well maybe android 18 but that's it.
The game is doomed to be a failure because of this.
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>>180748126
i try to play other stuff every now and then but other genres just bore the hell out of me, so fighting games make up 99% of my gaming time
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>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241773849&postcount=18971
>marvel fans
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>>180748313
functions
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>>180748769
life of the kappa streamape
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post functions
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>>180748649
I hope this 30 years anniversary shit is good
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>>180748876
disjointed hitboxes are cancer
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>>180749086
go back to kappa this shit is not funny
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>>180749086
Where's this function now Arc?
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>>180749086
>kappa memes
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play penguin
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i'm scared bros, every mvc3 character looks the same desu the combos are just LMHS jump MMHS. i'm worried it's going to die pretty quick. is anyone else concerned about this?
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>>180749270
who is this ugly fucker?
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Is DBFZ getting a PC beta?
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>>180747484
A sanwa one for fighting games, seimitsu for shmups, and I'm buying a myoungshin fanta just to try it out soon
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>>180749275
Isnt there going to be a beta this summer?
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What level of pain do you experience when someone mentions SFV?
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>>180749481
while you made this post someone dropped your favorite dead kusoge because matchmaking is dead, don't like sfv? go play something or kys back to rkappa
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What makes Pauls death fist fair?
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>>180749270
>bloodyroar
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>>180749578
Seems like you fall between number 8 and 10, quite painful indeed.
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>>180749312
Cronos, can't you read?
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>>180749659
you got a chuckle outta me
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>>180748876
Also how does the combo system even work in UNIEL, the only thing I know is that you have gatlings that go from heavy->light or light->heavy or something like that.

But sometimes the property of moves change, like here 3B is jump cancellable, but the second time it isn't.
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"left behind" and "functions" memes are a form of marketing & damage control that involves spamming unfunny references over and over until everyone is sick of hearing it

their popularity is unnatural because they're not fucking funny and never were
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>>180749747
if you jumped you can't jhump again
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>>180748876
it's obviously a downward swing sperg
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>>180749803
Even after landing? So you have to wait for the opponent to be out of hitstun to jump again?
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>>180749794
Left behind is pretty funny desu and people here don't overuse it.

That functions shit isn't even remotely funny though. Trying way too hard to create a meme
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is battlerite a fighting game?

>footsies
>meter management
>reads

fighting games.
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>Brick (not our Brick, the Zangief player from Sweden) getting beaten up by Joel from Vinesauce in Tekken 7 in the most laughable way

That shit was hilarious.
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>evo is held at the same time as ti7
shooting themselves in the foot
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>>180750221
low ticket sales and casuls dont even know its happening soon
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>>180750036
It also meets the most important criteria. It's dead!

(they really sucked the wind out of that game by pushing release back so far. I hope it can bounce back)
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>>180750221
>>evo is held at the same time as ti7
Lol no, ti7 main event is in august.
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Any sick cunts in here have the links to khaledantar666' lewd 2B mods? I'm assuming they are just mega links, I don't think Patreon has any sort of file distribution service.
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>>180750380
they're still competing with group stages
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whats ti7
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Does anyone play KOF anymore? What is the best KOF to play if I actually want to play games against other human opponents?
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>>180747845
I think people wanted weaker characters to be balanced into the game because DBZ has a history of What If scenarios, and the best ones are always the most outlandish. Its fun to see the underdog come out on top.

Also we had non-cannon joke fusions, and joke characters in previous fighting games.

I'd love the idea of Yajirobe being a top tier character in a fighting game because of all the salt it would make. Hercule was always fun in budokai tenchaichi 3, especially fighting Broly.
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>>180750530
i think it's a rapper?
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>>180750036
Eh I had some fun with that around when it came out, got the golden skull rank, then quit for a while. When I came back I didn't get shit for that rank and the movement and shit was still slow as shit so I quit forever
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SFV costumes I'm interested in buying
-Nostalgia Akuma
-The Urien one with the purple suit and sunglasses
-Nostalgia Alex

Which one of these costs actual money? Just Akuma?
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>>180750152
Joel's not that bad at fighting games though.

You should watch him play Jojo as Dio.
He's real fierce.
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>>180740660
Regardless of how good the characters are, neither of those characters are difficult. The skill ceiling is very low. There are very few characters that take real talent in that game, try and find one.
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>Been playing fighting games for 3 years now
>Mentor level in Tekken with 51 wins

Finally found a few locals, hopefully this can help me finally get good, because it's getting depressing now.
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>>180743742
Es is pretty good. Her main problem is she looks and feels like a Jin-style main character type, but she doesn't perform that well if played like that. She's deceptively hard to play, but very effective when done so.

Depends who you ask. There's scrubs who think she's godlike, mid-tier players who think she's worthless because they figured out they can bead ABCD 214B with mashing A, and top-tier players who range her from low-mid (SKD) to high-mid (Dora).
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>>180750737
just get pc mods, there waay better then what capcom puts out.
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>>180750307
it has more players than jive on pc
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dashing in sfv is way too fucking fast. always have to predict a dash in. i hope this is one of the things toned down in ssfv
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>>180750530
The International 7, dota's capcom cup.
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>>180750927
you havent even grinded out KBDs yet have you
stop being lazy
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>>180750737
Yes. Alexes nostalgia costume is not in the game yet
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Is there any sort of combo you particuarly like in games?
I find loops super satisfying to pull off/watch (Pot 6K loops, Haehyun kick loops, Guile sonic boom loops)
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>>180749869
It's the same as melty blood, you can only do 1 grounded jump cancel per combo.
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>>180751228
Oops, I'm retarded. Thanks. Haven't actually bought SFV yet.
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>>180740902
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sfv and tekken7 suck, why aren't you playing revelator 2?
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>>180750927
Tekken is a legacy game, fundamentals barely transfer over. Just learn the 50 billion strings and moves and how to counter/SS/duck/hopkick them and master the meme movement. If even a girl can do it, you can do it.
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>>180751170
>ssfv
you realize the leak this was part of got BTFO at e3 right? it was bullshit
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>>180745990
Arcsys themselves said that the first 6 were intentionally similar for the E3 show floor.
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>>180750554
Why would anyone play KOF?
Don't you know that the character models don't look good in KOF and that this is all that matters in a fighting game?
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>>180751379
shadow gallery loops
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>>180751379
short short short scissors
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>>180751501
Tell 'em gooby
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>>180751617
the jumps are also floaty and the game feels slower compared to kof 13
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>>180751501
Tekken killed goobers
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>>180751379
Super far corner carrys are hilarious

Like Izayoi's ability to push from one side of the screen to the other off of a DP.
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>>180751728
this isn't true if you actually played the game. the game LOOKS floatier but when you actually play it it's really the same as any kof
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Why does everyone seem to love SF2? I find 3S infinitely more enjoyable to watch.
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>>180751521
>fundamentals barely transfer over

not at all true in my experience, i've been beating other shitters quite comfortably. you just gotta get comfortable with the movement at the beginning
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>>180751890
nostalgia
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Is WS still considered "crouch-like"? Do they avoid highs, or does it depend?
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>>180751423
I see

Is there any indepth guide about the game?
The mizuumi wiki is really lackluster.
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>>180751973
Unless you are 15dan or higher you are a shitter.
tl;dr, you shit
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>>180739724
Anyone wanna play Tekken with me EU PS4?
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>>180752207
that's why i've used the word "other"
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>>180752261
me sfv (street fighter 5)
>>
God dammit Baiken's thighs drive me WILD
I can't take it
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>>180752158
What's missing from the mizuumi wiki? I haven't checked in a while, but I could update any section that needs it.
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>>180749579
punishable on block, does more or less damage depending on spacing and if he counterhits you, it's an amazing move but you have to play around it, remember one of pauls strengths is also his weaknesses, he has a very simple but strong kit, because you know what he's going to do you need to play around it
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>>180750785
this so much. joel is a beast.
only he can do point blank time stop and never get punished
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>>180752375
calm down anji
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>>180752261
>PS4
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>>180752386
Certain things like frame data for shield, throw tech timing, telling whether or not a move is CSable on block or only on hit etc. A lot of pages feel incomplete too when they don't even have the sprites of the attack they are describing.

Like all I know is that shield decreases blockstun.

But how much.
Does it change depending on what they do. I would assume so since for assault attacks they specify that you have 10F of recovery if they shield it.
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>>180751704
did you just pick up video games as a hobby this year or something
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>>180751379
I like combos where I have to do flash-kick motions consecutively off of a dashing normal.
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>>180752840
I've had that account for 8 years
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>>180752886
That seems a bit specific
>>
Tried out Tekken as my first fighting game. I like it, but I'm not sure I love the sort of "I safe hit, he safe hits, I move around to force a whiff, he low pokes, I safe hit," style of neutral. Do I need just need to learn more to appreciate it better, or should I try out a game like GG or SFV where whiffing moves is what you're supposed to do to space?
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>>180751379
I always really liked inputs that are out of the ordinary, like sf4 Akuma's normal xx demon teleport xx u2, and Dee Jay's ex machinegun upper dash u2 from midscreen.
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>>180753150
tekken's design hasn't changed since (literally) the 90s. what you see is exactly what you get.
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>>180752261
>tekken
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>>180753430
I see. Do other fighting games have less of a "boxing" style of neutral?
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>>180752886
>22 second long combo
kusoge
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>>180753535
Pretty much anything that's not tekken. Tekken is like smash that no other game does what it does.

Street fighter, marvel, GG, soul calibur, virtua fighter, etc all play completely different than tekken.
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Is SFV worth it on sale?
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>>180751379
I really liked any USFIV 1f link combo that could be looped. I especially like Edgy Ryu's Axekick combos.
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>>180753790
sure it's fun and i'm getting almost no laggy games since the cfn update
>>
When going to a local do I just walk in with my stick and just hold onto it whenever my match is up or do they provide sticks at them?
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>>180754172
should bring your own stick
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ArcSys saying they're fine with making some characters intentionally overpowered and others useless as anything but assists is a huge red flag desu

Who gives a fuck about some weebs saying "well ackshually you see yamcha could not defeat super saiyan goku that just wouldn't happen in the canon *snort* are we supposed to believe this is some kind of MAGIC yamcha?"
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any game that requires years of memorizing frame data to be played competitively is a bad game
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>>180754526
lmao how dumb are you that you need years to memorize some numbers
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>>180751379
Loops in general, also I really enjoy generic low hitconfirms into super or DP

combos in general are cool, also somewhat hard combos are also nice when you finally get consistent with them, feel satisfying to land
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>>180754474
Are you excited for "DIVE!!!"?
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>>180754474
This is what happens when you pander to rosterfags. Characters are just functions, thinking anything else is just autism.
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>>180754526
you may be an idiot
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>>180754474
What's wrong with having joke characters for styling on shitty players? What's wrong with having characters that are shitty at fighting but have god tier potential as assists?
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>>180752692
None of that is in? Huh. With UNIST around the corner, there's going to be a lot of work to do on frame data, but I should add a sub-section on shielding in system mechanics.

>throw tech timing
14F tech window, 28F if it's gold.

>Like all I know is that shield decreases blockstun. But how much.
3F less blockstun for ground moves, 6F less blockstun for air moves. It also prevents air attacks from being canceled into others, forcing the opponent on the ground with added recovery. There's a few exceptions like Merkava's flight. Generally speaking, unless a move has massive frame advantage (like Vatista j.C), shielding an air attack gives you the advantage frame wise.

As for CSing moves on hit/block, I can't think of a non-Infinite worth move that can't be CS'd on hit. On block, if the move has invulnerability, it cannot be CS'd. If it doesn't, it often can. There's a few exceptions like Gordeau 3C; those need to be added to the wiki if they aren't there.
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>>180754780
Is there a precedent for shit characters that are good as assists?
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why would anyone actually believe they're balancing the game around canon powerlevels

not like there are any solid powerlevels since super anyway
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>>180754881
The interview where they said that they would try something to that effect
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>>180754859
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>>180755084
I mean like in Marvel etc
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>>180754590
>>180754726
triggered the tekkenbaby :)
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>>180754526
so every fighting game? derp
>>
I personally like the idea of making some characters more adept at assisting or impacting the game in other ways than just their 1v1 power, might as well use that design space if you have

And incorporating that with powerlevels just makes it more interesting and true to the source material imo, and I don't even know anything about DBZ
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>>180754859
Roll in CvT2
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>Even more girl character costumes
Damn sfv really is going for the doa costume route huh
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>>180755523
Like after the school uniforms part 2?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDP8tijo89A
Did /fgg/ ever beat DSP in any fighting game?
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>>180754859
Quite a few marvel characters are average to shit and used for their assist only
The classical example is captain commando
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>>180755606
https://youtu.be/KDP8tijo89A?t=331
woooow
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Which program would allow me to macro King's rolling death cradle? I want to have fun.
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>>180755876
use ahk and write your script so that it accepts no new inputs until that input is done.
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>>180755876
xpadder
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>>180754953
they said it would be stupid if goku got beat by some nobody. they could have meant it in a canon sort of way, not strictly game play
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>>180751379
I like loops of big damaging moves like Beak Driver loops or deathfist wallsplat deathfist
Also combos that end in an airthrow
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>>180754839
Are infinite worth moves just the in game term for specials or supers or something?
But the thing I was talking about is like Orie's DP can only be CS'd on hit, but not on block.
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>>180755876
>>180755929
>>180755932
>PC shitters

Disgusting
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>>180756278
Oh nevermind, its for the D button supers I see, for some reason Hilda's page calls them infinite words.
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Why aren't you playing in the Koihime Enbu tournament tonight?
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>>180756354
i dont use macros online, sometimes its fun just to mess around with them.
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How much could you sell an Infinite Worth for
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>>180756465
Dead game
Shit girls
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>>180756465
Because I bought uniel instead and it's the better game
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>>180756516
a what now
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>>180756516
the fuck is an infinite worth?
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>>180754000
fuck off combofiend
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>>180756570
>>180756602
http://wiki.mizuumi.net/w/Under_Night_In-Birth/System#Infinite_Worth

Ummm... study the lore??
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>>180756682
Functions are all that matter
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>>180756682
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>>180756879
Don't encourage him
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>>180750152
hes a different brick when he wins, he's our brick when he loses
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>>180756818
wtf is this functions shit?
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>>180757318
Feeling left behind, anon?
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>>180757010
>>180757291
*breek
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>>180757318
Reddit meme to shit on MVCi. Nothing you should really care about.
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>>180757318
Functions are a mapping from one value to another.
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The DBFZ game is going to suck.

It doesn't have the things that make Marvel fun. You can't choose your assist, it's strictly character based. Movement is ass, copying Guilty Gear. That means everyone with extremely similar movement, including air dashes with shitty feeling height restrictions. It wouldn't make sense to give someone an awkward dash or flight, because literally everyone introduced can fly and they don't have it. No eight way air dashing either, just the garbage homing no control dash. Their statement about adhering to power levels just cements this further.

The hype relies on it being DBZ, that's it. Nothing about game itself is amazing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvJWzvCRiw0&feature=youtu.be&t=1778

who was in the wrong here?
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>>180751379
a2 jumping forward MP with it hitting twice on a standing opponent combo'd into short,shortxxredhadoken
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>>180757690
You preordered the collectors edition of MvCI, didn't you.
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>>180750530
the new tekken that came out a month ago
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>>180757690
You can't control the homing dash? Where did you read that?
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>>180757690
i guess you never played marvel?

most assist were useless, movement is the same for everyone in mvci, and that game is slow as fuck, and the power levels thing was a joke you dumb asses are taking too far

everyone has said that the game is balanced and fun from what theyve played maybe you should take a step back from sucking capcoms cock and revoke that preorder on what will be another capcom failure

fuck off
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>>180757690
but it will have a18 sniffs
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>>180747216
what absolute manner of kusoge
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>>180754953
I'm 99% sure that's just pr talk to pander to powerlevelfags. Or at least it will probably just mean we get some battery style/assist focused characters, which is completly fine desu.
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>>180754707

The most underrated post on this entire site.
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>>180757690
>Movement is ass, copying Guilty Gear. That means everyone with extremely similar movement, including air dashes with shitty feeling height restrictions. It wouldn't make sense to give someone an awkward dash or flight, because literally everyone introduced can fly and they don't have it.

Have you ever played Guilty Gear?
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Does anybody know how to make use of Bedmans new 6H? I know the old was was an unga cross up, but it was just so much better. I have no idea how to make 6H useful, I feel all I can do is throw it out and hope for the best.
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>>180757318
Combofiend said characters just act as functions. eg. Nova can do all the same stuff as Magneto. People, mainly reddit, got angry over the statement and started arguments about characters vs. gameplay.
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>>180758226
>Have you ever played Guilty Gear?
Clearly he's never played a non-capcom fighting game, ever.
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>>180755391
>>180754881

The big problem is they also said that they didn't want to do for example character specific combo moves like the father-son Kamehameha because it would limit team compositions. So having some characters who are mostly assists also does that. So either they're just bullshitting for the lorefaggots to not sperg, or they've got a very inconsistent design philosophy. I assume the former.
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>people dont like sfv
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>>180758226
Name every character in guilty gear who can't double jump and super jump.
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Does Balrog have any bad matchups?
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>>180758401
>So having some characters who are mostly assists also does that.
Not, really. Because eventually they will have to come out and fight, so you have to decide which is more important to you, and everyone's opinions on the matter will be different.
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>>180758625
any grappler but even that's a struggle for the grapplers at time
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>>180758604
Damn you got me.

Everyone is the exact same.
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>>180754953
Well, I mean the show admits numbered power levels are stupid, but it still demonstrated how powerful characters are. Like how Trunks beat Cyber-Frieza with ease, but can't beat Cell. So you don't need numbers to gather that Cell is stronger than Frieza. So they said that to shut up the people crying why someone like Nappa (if he makes it in) could face against against someone like Beerus (again, assuming those characters are in).
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>>180758713
Most characters have a "run" and a backdash too. The movement is extremely similar in goober gear. Stop playing yourself just because there's an I-No and a Johnny, fucking retard.
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>>180758596
I don't understand that face. Are you surprised? Confused by this?
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>>180758241
I just played some bedman and he used it in a combo, I can't really guess what the exact notation was but he ended the combo with 6H (2 hits) into bed slam (task C?)

Also the move is safe on block right? I guess it can kinda be used just to put some blockstring pressure or to buy time for a dejavu to become activatable again, I dunno
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>>180739724
ram makes my weewee hurt
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>>180758625
at high level rashid and cammy and gief
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>>180758604

That's only one aspect of movement.

Off the top of my head
Slayer
I-No
Potemkin
all have highly different movement styles
Chipp has a 3rd jump
Bedman can't airdash.
Faust crawls.
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>>180758967
Doesn't look half bad for a nigger.
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>>180758817
I-No has hoverdashes and vertical dashes both upward and downward
Millia has double airdashes and triple jumps
Chipp has triple jumps
Johnny has standard dashes
Bedman has no ground dash, but 8 way airdashes
Slayer has teleport dashes
Dizzy has double airdashes
Zato has flight
Potemkin has no airdash or ground dash
Several characters have low profile runs, while others don't

It's all the same.
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Newfag here, what fighting games let me play traps? Guilty gear?

ps. SFV,Tekken or GG? I barely know differences from gameplay footage like the noob I am
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>>180759147
Niggers are higher than you though.
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>>180752927
embarassing mate
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>>180759117
Millia and Dizzy can double air dash too.
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See my Chun in Dragon Ball: Advanced Adventure
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>>180759242
Wait Millia doesn't have triple jumps in xrd.
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>>180759242
>>180759117
Yeat most of the cast can double jump and super jump. Most of the cast runs and backdashes. Most of the cast an airdash and backdash.

Extremely similar movement among the cast while you guys cherry pick because you're retarded goobers who can't accept the truth.
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Man, Ryo is so much better than Ryu.
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>>180759495

Oh you're a troll. Never mind. Enjoy, well you don't play any fighting games but enjoy your shitposting I guess.
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>>180759495
You forgot your kermit picture.
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>>180759312
Even true homosexuals laugh at you trap-loving scum fags
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>>180758998
Balrog vs Gief is even since season 2
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>>180742732
I have, and good taste.
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PUT THE MONEH IN THA BAG RITE NOW WHITE BOI
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>>180757716
seifuku obv
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>>180759718
Looks like a villain from Static Shock
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>>180759718
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>>180759495
Dude, MvCI is gonna tank, just accept it.
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>>180759646
>>180759682
>wow an extra of the same jump and the same airdash much different
goobers, not even once

So moving on with the conversation beyond defensive goobers who can't read. Why would the RADICALLY DIFFERENT triple jump and extra airdash be given to one DBZ character and not another when they can all fly?

explain that one arcshits who think the movement won't be extremely similar

>>180760009
>my game doesn't look good unless less I compare it to something just as shit
goooooooobers
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Whats worse:

Jivers and Goobers?

or

Blatant capcom shills who are still deluded into thinking MvCI will be anything other than complete and utter ass.
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>>180759242
>Several characters have low profile runs, while others don't
>tfw Chipp's run goes under HCL
feels fucking great desu
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>>180759560
Ryo is a manlier ryu in both appearance and playstyle
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>>180759718
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>>180760367
I-no can actually TK her HCL to snipe several low profile runs.
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>>180760283
reddit
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>>180760283
I am exited for MVCI, so the other one.
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>>180760093
you're not good at this

stop posting
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>>180760546
then you are lost
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>>180759718
delet
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>>180760370
>Blatant Ken rip-off
Is KOF the series with the most uninspired characters ever?
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What are the chances there'll be a stretch goal to fix the sprites in this Arcana Heart 3 kickstarter?
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>>180760093
the only possible reason to not be excited for dbf is if you have financial ties to mvci. or you're retarded and/or 12 years old and are in the capcom/marvel "tribe"
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>>180760591
That's fucking bullshit, Ryo is mixed, and has a backstory that's more interesting than all of the street fighter characters put together.
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>>180760775

Mixed between what?
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What the fuck is the point of these timing requirements on combos.

If the two moves link, I should be able to do the combo just by inputting the correct sequence of buttons, why is there an extra layer of timing requirements on top. Some of the moves clearly link just from pressing them one after the other, so why the fuck do the others not work the same way

This is literally artificial difficulty, what does it even achieve, fucking fuck.
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>>180760591
>Ryo
>kof
underage v&
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>>180759704
lol no, thats easily balrogs worst matchup along with laura, both characters have the tools to counter balrogs style of play and are comparable to him in strength
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>>180758226
Nothing he said is wrong though

GG movement feels like complete garbage. Marvel and Vsav have way better and more freeform movement
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>>180761119
Play injustice, friend. Dial combos seems right up your alley.
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>>180761119
Sounds like NRS games would be more your thing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLH6NOdGFB0

Anyone able to explain what the fuck happened to me?
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>>180761119
take a hike cumskin
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>>180761160
Oh yeah, art of fighting, whatever, dead and buried series.
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>>180760370
I generally prefer Ryo to Ryu but 3S ryu's aesthetic and feel is so cool. God damn I love donkey kick too.
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>>180761281
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>>180761119

While I'm heavily against artificial difficulties/input barriers, in this case it actually isn't really one. Allow me to explain using Karin.

This is a basic Karin string:
cr.mp > st.mp xx command dash

Now, if you get a hit, you follow up that command dash with her knock up palm strike.
If you get block, you want to follow up that command dash with her safe on block shoulder.

If you could just spill out the whole combo at the start, you wouldn't have time to make a decision partway in, which move to cancel into. The timing requirements allow you more decision making flexibility which at a higher level means that better players make better decisions and thus win more matches.

It seems like an artificial input barrier (like a 720 input) but it actually isn't. Ignore the people yelling at you about fucking off to Mortal Kombat.
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>>180747484
>owning more than 1 stick
completely retarded
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>>180761875
What if your stick breaks?
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>>180761085
American and Japanese
>>180761373
Still better than SF
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>>180761585
Okay but if the game were dial up combo instead, cant you still do the same thing up to her command dash then decide what to do after. How does having a timing requirement change this

I'm just suffering in Trials right now and lashing out.

A while ago I did almost all of Mika's trial in one go without even thinking about all these timing stuff. Is Mika just easier to play
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Why do people think Injustice 2 is good? Is it because of fanservice? It can't possibly be because of the gameplay.
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>>180761215
It is his worst matchup, but his worst matchup is even. 5.5 - 4.5 Gief at worst
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>>180760283
people that think combos are a problem and that execution is stupid
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>>180761875
>not having a quick replacement for when your stick break in the middle of night
Now that's completely retarded.
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>>180758241
combo and pressure, it's not hard. use it in conjunction with task A and task A'
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Is there even a slight hope for Infinite at this point?
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>>180762072
No one thinks NRS games have good gameplay. Only casuals and aesthetically bereft NRScucks think Injustice 2 is better than SFV.
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>>180762072
gameplay isn't bad, just different

online is better than most too to be desu
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>>180762072
I dont think anyone here unironically think injustass, and for that matter ANY NRS games, are good.
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>>180740902
easily techable
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Do I use my Rev2 bucks to do anything other than fishing?
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>>180762384
>you can tech grabs in fighting games
whoa
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>>180761119
Just pretend you're playing a rythm game.
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>>180740902
Aside from Knockoff Nyotengu here, everything in this webm looks boring as fuck. Why not watch real life sports if you enjoy slowass moves.
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>>180762072
The gameplay's fine
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>>180762324
As someone who has only watched MvC but never played it, I don't see how MvC fans can be happy about this.

How do you go from something like MvC2 to Infinte? How?

It looks like complete and utter ass, sounds like shit, small as fuck roster, 2 v 2 only, none of the charm that made MvC cool as fuck in the first place.

Again, maybe the gameplay will be good but why would that be good when literally everything surrounding it looks like dick.
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>>180754859
mvc2 psylocke
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>>180762324
Honestly if Infinite was releasing at the end of the year I'd still try to be optimistic, but given how soon it comes out there is no hope
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>>180762387
Unless there's a color or song you absolutely must have, then no that's it. You use a small amount of money to customize your r-code too.
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>>180762387
You can buy all the colours for your main directly on the gallery or plates and icons if you really want one.
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dont mind me, just gonna save fighting games this generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2x8c-RFGnA
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>>180762448
that throw has like 8 separate tech windows, you'd have to be seriously awful to get hit by the entire thing
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>>180761119
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa.
Why are trying to play fighting games? It is current year. You buy those games just to look how pretty the characters are and to whinny on the internet when the characters don't look good. Nobody actually plays or know anything about fighting games anymore.
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MVCI will be the next SFxT only sfxt didnt look like ass.Capcom will just take the preoder and dlc money and move on to the next thing.
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>>180762530
There is nothing wrong with 2v2 instead of 3v3. Everything else is just aesthetic, which I'll agree is pretty bad but not so bad that I wouldn't play the game. The gameplay looks interesting so far.
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>>180762059

Well, the thing is this: you cancel normals into specials, meaning you cancel their recovery frames/end lag. That's important because normally for example, still using Karin

st.hp xx dash is a thing. You can cancel the end of a st.hp into a dash and get a thing out of it. But you can't do st.hp > st.mp for example. It's part of the balance of the game, that allows you to cancel into special moves. Without that mechanic, you'd not really be able to use specials in combos/strings, only in neutral. Or they'd have to make normals all go into eachother.

So knowing as we do that you need to cancel the recovery frame, that's sort of why you have to time it. Also, with Karin at least, there's the Tenko (the palm strike) and Orochi (the shoulder) but there's also Perfect Tenko where you get a frame perfect version of the tenko for more damage. I actually feel like the distinction between tenko and perfect tenko is a bit pointless because at a high level Karin players can all perfect tenko every time. And there's no reason to choose to use the regular one. So that's a bit pointless to me.

But point is, in the case of Karin, the followups are actually part of the command dash command. qcf.k > p or cr.p depending on which you want. It just wouldn't work the same if you could do it the other way.

Also, and this is more personal, but, pressing the buttons at the same time as the attack gives the player a stronger feeling of connection to the character. It's more kinetic. Less abstract. I can't help but feel like that's a good thing.

Also, it's sometimes advantageous to stop a combo early as a mixup, to get a reset (Where you start a new combo from scratch immediately after finishing a previous one) so you do an 8 hit combo twice in a row then on the third time you stop at hit 5, they don't react because they expected 8, then you restart the combo netting you extra damage. That wouldn't really work with dial up either. Not as well anyway.
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>>180762731
>posting an april fools joke
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>>180762731
This looks the same as every other game to come out in 201X
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>>180762731

This looks so much better than Tekken.

Why the hell is Tekken so rigid and slow compared to this, fuck
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>>180762324
it's better than sfv and people play sfv so it will be successful
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We're entering a Dark Ages no one could have imagined. The games aren't just shit, shit games are adored just because they're not the shit game from big bad Capcom.

SFV is shit, therefore Tekken 7 is good.
MvCI is shit, therefore DBFZ is good.

They're all shit, and this community becomes shittier with them. If anyone new comes to locals to play DBFZ it'll be the most foul smelling weebs. For every one that enters, we'll lose three players.
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>>180762731

people are going to have this conversation every 5 years until eternity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nxb-mcn6wg

this game is n e v e r coming out.
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>>180762938
Becsuse Tekken is one of the worst 3D fighting game series on the market.
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>>180762938
I though you guys liked the juggles. lmao
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>>180762938
it's because harada's dumbass doesn't want to implement move speed into the game, instead you have to kbd for movement or else be bored

up the movespeed by 300-400% and it will be a fun game
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>>180762996
>MvCI is shit
looks pretty fun to me desu.
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Anyone wants to play melty or Rev 2
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>>180762530
Precisely, the "but the gameplay is good" doesn't cut it anymore because it's 2017, there are a lot of fighting games that look and play good. Standards have risen. This goes double for MVCI because it will have a direct competitor when DBFZ which already looks lightyears ahead while being 20% done.
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Why is Brick the way he is?
Do not answer.
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>>180762731
looks awful
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>>180763293
>while being 20% done
You fucks are unbelievable. That game will be exactly the same barring some subtle mechanical changes when it's released, get real.
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>>180762996
>Implying SF professional players aren't too
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>>180763286
Did you drop Tekken?
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>>180763410
Wrong.
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>>180742128
Susanoo, Bang, Noel, Kagura, and Bullet are the bottom 5 characters right now.
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>>180762914
The april fools joke was that people thought it was an april fools joke.

It's real and playable, just not sure if it will ever come out. I think they need funding or something.
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>>180762996
It's actually
>DBFZ is made by ASW with Bandai Namco funding & is a huge IP that they will put a lot of time and talent into therefore it'll be good
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>>180763452
If someone wants to play it I will but I'm done actively playing it and going in ranked and learning and shit.

I never planned to take it seriously, there's just too much in it for a side game. I'd rather concentrate on melty and learn GG better.
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>>180747484
Zero.
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Jesus christ this general is worse than I remember it and it was never good to start

People are just speaking nonsense now. "Why do you have to time combos?" really? "Tekken is shit cause you have to kbd" Word?
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>>180763858

Tekken is shit though. How do you stand watching that stiff mess?
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>Showed 5 bars in the waiting room
>Jumps to 1 the moment the match begins

Fucking Italian connections
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>>180763858
>People are just speaking nonsense now. "Why do you have to time combos?" really? "Tekken is shit cause you have to kbd" Word?

There's always beginners here. Also, kbd really is shit.
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>>180762530
>2v2 is bad meme
Am I on /v/ or something?
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>>180763858
I don't think we bullied /v/ enough, now they feel like they are welcomed to share their shit opinions on artificial difficulty and shit, got pull that shit like weeds man
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the king of iron fist tournament 7
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>>180763858
Tekken is pretty shit though, its a slow low skill ceiling game
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>>180764021
How is making the game having less depth a good thing?

Fuck it just make it 1 v 1, why not. Nothing wrong with that right?
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>>180763858
>have to do unique shortcut input like smash because game movement speed is literally a turtle if you don't

justify that
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>>180764092
rare footage of people enjoying fighting games
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>>180763286
I'll play Rev 2.
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>>180762825
Again, I don't see how dial up changes this. It's the exact string of buttons up to a point, then you make a decision for the finisher.

Also the entire point of cancelling, as you said, is to interrupt a move's recovery/end so another move comes out. Doesn't it seem contradictory to require a pause to properly do this instead of allowing an immediate button press to do the same
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>>180764290
Invite me

id/meltybrick
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>>180764129
If they add on mechanics to replace sacrificed ones (assists in this case) then it is OK, just a different game. Being able to tag at any point replaced assists + only able to tag on the ground or through TACs (which was a shit mechanic).
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>>180758226
Have you ever played Mahvel? If you dont understand how the new mechanics work you have no idea how fucking freeform MvCI is going to be. It's going to be so broken. And we like broken.
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>>180764129
>less characters means less depth

autism. any sf (except jive) is deeper than any marvel game
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>>180764018
Telecom?
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Is the a name for the genre of music that capcom had in all its late 90's/early 2000's fighting games? Its magical.

Its this Jazzy/Funky mix but I don't know if there's a name for it.
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>>180764380
You don't show up when I search for some reason, but the lobby id is ujci
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>>180764739
trip hop?
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>mfw i don't live by blind brand loyalty and can enjoy superior games regardless of which company made them
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>>180764791
>tfw KBrad is 5'4
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>>180763939
cause it isn't
>>180764134
its not
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Who is Capcom's PR person? Or is it a group of people?
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>>180764791

Poor K-Brad has to pretend to be hype for MVCI while wearing a DBZ shirt.
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I want to fuck FGC bitches at locals like hws desu
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Why is Kappa generally considered to be better at fighting games than /fgg/?

When did this trend start?
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Reminder. Everyone hating on SFV and MvCi are the same people who hated on Diablo/WoW then fucking bought the next game. You will buy MvCi, the fact that the game is more fun than SFV is also another reason why.
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>>180740660
Do you rather value winning or having fun with friends?
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>>180765165
/fgg/ doesn't play games outside of a couple of tripfags
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>>180765196
I'm not buying MvCi until UMvCi releases with all the DLC and hopefully a UI change and graphical update.
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>>180764791
>>180764791
Jezus, his head is fucking massive. Why do Americans always lool like a little kid with a massive adult oversized head glued on top of it? These people literally need to grow up. My 12 year old niece is 5'10 already ffs.
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>>180765130
is that chocoblanca? is that actually highwaystar in real life? I didn't know he got women like that if so. impressive.
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What are the chances they fix Infinites graphics.
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>>180765228
>>180765228
i cant have fun if I cant beat those smug bastards
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>>180765130
highwaystar i'll money match u for $500 at evo
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>>180765341
He has a big brain
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>>180765165
>Why is Kappa generally considered to be better at fighting games than /fgg/?
Is it generally considered that? I never knew.
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>>180765426
0 actually the game comes out in september
can't just redo all the graphics
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>Across all platforms, many reviewers cited [Marvel vs Capcom 2's] jazz-inspired soundtrack as the game's biggest flaw. Jeremy Dunham of IGN described the music as "plain god-awful", stating that the "jazzy lounge lizard music and snappy beats" did not fit the action in the slightest.[27] Martin Taylor of Eurogamer expressed his disappointment that the game's visual flair was backed by "a horrific, lift music-oriented soundtrack and low quality sound effects".[65] Game Revolution shared the sentiment, declaring it as "some of the lamest music that you've ever heard".

I hate this fucking planet.
How do you not like this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcfjQ1osc4
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hey guys should i buy tekken or guilty gear? i play on pc and would like to be able to battle players using the online feature
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>>18076560
Probably nobody thinks that and he's just shitposting. That, or he comes from kappa himself and they think they're better at fighting games in spite of no one playing them in there.
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>>180765674

white people.
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>>180765757
Tekken has much more players playing, but they are both very different games.
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is there any 3v3 game that isn't gimmicky and retarded? Assists are pretty dumb if you ask me. Also they don't look very much like an anime battle. Looks weird seeing someone come on screen for a couple seconds and then jump out.
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>>180740827
Get another person guilty gear and teach them.
>>180743036
It does seem to be breaking their normal business model.
>>180763293
It's already almost done, don't you know how Japan works newfriend
>>180765165
Is it?
>>180765757
Both are fine, Tekken has less skilled players on average, but only because guilty gear is made up of autists who play constantly and waifu fags who play the first week.
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>>180765426
>6 months after release

Priority is making the DLC not fixing a character people won't play. Let's be real, everyone is gonna pick all the new characters, then they're gonna pick venom, black panther dlc. Black panther already looks perfect
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>>180765860
KoF.
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>>180765674
Maybe that guy only listens to Coltrane, Dolphy and Monk though and simply does not approve of Kenny G tier jazz crap.
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>>180765426
There is a higher chance that the current graphics are just an elaborate joke than of them being real and fixed.
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>>180765674
What's next? They're gonna say they didn't like CvS2's music either?
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>>180763703
a history of dbz games says otherwise

this game will be put out and forgotten despite how broken it is
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>>180765426
If they didn't do it for SFV what in god's name makes you think they will do it for Infinite?
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Is being shit at GG soul crushing or as tolerable as being shit at Street Fighter?
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>>180766298
It's pretty hard to be shit at GG.
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>>180765674
thats funny

hating on the visuals is one thing cause mvc2 is just a frankenstein monster of old games but the music is great. Reviews are always funny
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>>180763620
I want to fund.
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>>180765674
white nerds
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>>180766298
being shit at street fighter is different than other fighting games cause even if you suck dick you think you are better than you are. Having that same exact skill level in other games just gets you fucked up even worse.

I can't pinpoint exactly why but its 100% true
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anyone t7 pc eu?
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>>180766252
But SFV looks great?
At least the characters do. Do people actually think SFV looks bad? I thought that was the one thing nobody would really hate on.

Like the characters and their animations are great.
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Any new info about Omen of Sorrow since it was announced, or did it get cancelled?
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>>180766645
ok sure me, sfv
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>>180741208
>Shilling for MVCI this hard lol

m8,the game looking like the marvel mobile trash is a valid criticisim.
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>>180766048
the list goes on...
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>>180765757
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK/Injustice have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.
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what would it take for our guys to all switch to streaming guilty gear and pretending it's the biggest tournament game? You know all the steamboars would follow suit because they have to act hardcore somehow
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>>180765130
the only thing hes fucking is his rashid doll. he even puts a furry tail on him.
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>>180766782
Bullshit, character models have WAY more polygons than a mobile game.
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>>180766836
It'd have to be a good game first

and no, it's not. never has been
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>>180765674
Superior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2XCixmgeo
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>PR rog ending his sfv stream saying he's gonna practice some real games

what did he mean by this
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>>180767154
Does Bloody Roar even have cancelling normals into specials?
It seems like a really jank game.
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>>180767476
Injustice?
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do we like Aris?
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>>180767736
yes
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>>180767476
He meant he'll play some chess now.
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>>180767736
No
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Now that Snake Eyez has actually been winning, do we like him again?

I remember people were hating on him lately because he was losing, but he has been beasting with Gief again. Is he /ourguy/ now?
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>>180767736
Maybe.
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Is eventhubs down for anybody else?
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>>180767926
He was our guy when he was a loser. Now he's no longer our guy.
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>>180766905
but they still stream sfv and injustice?
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>>180767736
he used to be alright now it's just the same thing repeated over and over + regurgitating latest kappa garbage, fuck him
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Trying to learn GG to play with friends. Who the flying fuck though these 6p animations were okay for some characters? "We'll make it look like a standard punch to the gut! It's totally an anti air with upper body invincibility, guys!" I can deal with dusts not looking ANYTHING like overheads, but this shit is stupid. Why can't they just be fucking sensible?
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>>180767926
Kid this is not leddit. There's no "we" here, this is not a hivemind, you should have your own opinions and not give a fuck about whatever opinion you see here or elsewhere.
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>>180768169
sfv is one of the greatest fighting game ever made, your basic rkappa brainlet can't understand how good the game is so let me explain to you:

sfiv revived fighting games and was massively popular, more people are playing online and entering sfv tourneys than sfiv at its peak despite sfv massively underselling and getting a lot of negative pr to this day

that's how good sfv is, now beat it kid
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is wave dashing in t7 just doing KBD backwards?
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>>180768302
Ok that's fair.
He is my favorite player because I play Zangief, and I'm happy to see him do well.
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>>180768281
you can't react to it so why does it matter? if you get punched out of the air it's probably 6P

and I don't see a problem with the visuals. sfv has lots of anti air jabs, light kicks, light/medium command normals
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>>180767926
That's incorrect, people were not shitting on snake eyez because he kept losing, people shat on snake eyez because he kept whining about sfv on twitter like he was chris tatarian instead of adapting and getting better, that's also why people love bonchan but hate infiltration now
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>>180768537
no
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>>180767926
Snake Eyez is a tosser and his character is lame but if jwong dislikes him then I like him.
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>>180768439
So SF5 is better because it is so shitty that even shitters are entering tournament since they know they could get lucky and win it? How is that a good thing again?
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Where can I get the full soundtrack for this game

also anyone got the pictures of the eliza or lili morrigon costume or even the jill costume
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>>180766298
it's way more tolerable to be shit at gg since only about 5 americans are not asscheeks at it, hell most of them don't even play the game
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>>180768537
our guy already explained it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXmgsQw3bpo
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>>180766298
There's so much gimmicky garbage in GG that the only way to be good is to spend 8-10 hours a day arcadeboaring it so it doesn't feel bad at all.
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>kazuya gets EWGFs with f, n, df+2 without the down input

wew this is piss easy
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>>180764319

Well the idea is that you do the cancel at the moment you want the cancel.

The problem is also partly like... how do you differentiate commands? Does it just ALWAYS buffer your previous input in prep for your next one? Like, human reactions are limited, so what do you propose that at the start you press:
cr.mp > st.mp > command dash and then just wait as the combo plays itself out and then just spam p or cr.p depending on which ender you want?

What about for stuff that requires full inputs? How long will it buffer your previous input for if there's no timing. If I'm playing a game with a longer combo, like GG or something that has like a 10hit + combo with roman cancels and other nonsense in the middle, how long do I have to push the next button? Like if I've got a 10 hit combo what do I just blur out the first 6 hits as fast as I possibly can, wait as long as I want to input the 7th if I need to make a choice (like confirming into a safe special vs a damaging one) then input that at any point that I want?

how long does it hold inputs for. So ok let's say that there's two specials, one uses a QCF motion one a DP motion. Now let's say that I have a combo that's, for example, punch punch punch kick then a speical. So the input can either be:

p.p.p.kxxqcf
or
p.p.p.kxxDP

Now in the time span of that first punch animation I've burned out pppk as fast as I can, then tapped forward. Accidentally or whatever. How long do I have to wait before it un-buffers that forward so I can do the qcf? Or will it hold that forward input for the next 6 seconds and then turn the qcf into a DP even a bunch of seconds later?

It introduces a lot of weird problems to do it that way.
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>>180768729
Because it makes learning characters a chore. You can get hit in a fight an dhave no clue what happened or why you were hit. "well this normal standing jab is just a jab but this one that looks the same is invincible. Just uh... Watch out for moves that look nothing like what they really do in function." if some motherfucker in SF did a low kick and it was an overhead with low invincibility, it would be shit design. But in GG it is okay because...?
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>>180767508
This is bait, right?
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>>180770009
just block ;^)
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Convince me to drop skullgirls
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>>180770192
Most of the fanbase is furrys.
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>>180770318
he said a reason to drop it not love it
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>>180770115
What has blocking got to do with canceling mechanics?
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>>180770192
Skullgirls looks bad
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>>180769271
ok now do it in a real match consistently

also fuck off blog faggot
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>>180769927
Getting with an overhead with poor animation is different because you can't block on reaction according to the animation is different from getting hit by an anti-air. The game already tells you that 6p is a universal fast anti-air with upper body invincibility for all characters. You sure aren't going to react to a 6p in the first place during your jump in anyway.
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>>180770318
>Furries
???
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>>180770192
The attacks are to unambiguous, pick up GG so everyone is always guessing when attacks come out. Only true FG players allowed.
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How do I transition from street fighter (slow paced, small combos) to anime fighter, rev2 (fast paced, long combos) better?

I suck at timing combos and find that I don't have to time them at all, but then I get messed up because I don't have even a split second to think.
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>>180770618

Show me on the doll where Millia touched you.
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>>180770708
Play/Practice more.
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>>180770708
Just find easy combos with the character you're playing off their important buttons and play games. Add shit as you get a better feel for the game.
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>>180770794
Lol what a huge hwoarang ripoff
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>>180770192
If you no longer truly enjoy it and you wanna try something else just drop it, don't be a depressive clingy bitch
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>>180770794
did this game ever have a decent sized following?
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>>180770708
Play leo
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>>180770914
Are you retarded or have you just never played tekken?
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sniffpill me on foorsies
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>>180770794
Why aren't they going for the wall breaks and shit?
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>>180771024
Pretty good following for a none mainstream game, people still play it to this day.
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>>180771102
foorsies is wat??
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>>180770914
The ripped off shenlong from Street fighter too.
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>>180771186
Wall breaking and ring outs was in Primal Fury/Extreme, that's BR3
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>>180771324
me on the left
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>>180770473
I really want to see what a modern Bloody Roar would look like. Your talk made me go pull out my copies of 2 and 4. Still having fun with them at a surface level.
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>>180770009
The retarded catgirl is better
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>>180769927
Also, 6p animation makes more since if you know that it is meant to catch low airdash / late jump in air to ground attack and also can serve as beating high profile ground normal. It will lose to high/early air to ground with good hitbox
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>>180771430
You look autistic. Autistic girls are great for fucking.
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>>180771510
Actually she is a half-beast. Learn your lore, nerd.
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>>180770708
>but then I get messed up because I don't have even a split second to think.
Of course you won't be able to confirm with a single hit. You need to do confirms into combos as you play. For example when you attack your opponent with f.S as Ky you might want to press 3H immediately after f.S even if you think that 3H in block would be disadvantageous for you, because if opponent gets counterhit or crouching hit you will be able to convert it into full combo, while if opponent blocks or gets a normal standing hit you will be safe.
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>>180770765
Left foot while crouching. You could tell because her hair was aiming at the air 3 fert over my head.
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>>180771498
4 was a mess the game is blatantly unfinished. Also i dont trust konami enough for them to do the series justice.
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>>180771645
She was cooler in the first game.
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>>180771852
Her BR1 arcade theme was great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSvEO2T-JXw
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>>180771576

Have autistic girlfriend, can confirm.

>>180769927

Yeah dusts have weird animations but they all have a unique glowing fist thing that lets you know it's a dust. They all have that glowing windup beforehand. I agree it'd be nice if the animations were less retarded but at least there's this.
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>If I don't win the first match i'm never winning a match against that person ever

I can't read patterns or what they do
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SFV anyone? US East
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>>180769223
>There's so much gimmicky garbage in GG that the only way to be good is to spend 8-10 hours a day arcadeboaring it so it doesn't feel bad at all.
This is bait, right?
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>>180772325
>Can't read patterns
How do you improve?
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Now that the dust is settled, hows Tekken 7? Worth the money?
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https://twitter.com/FGC_Flash/status/878688969201860608

Why are goobers so easily triggered? I play the game too but come on.

Anyway what are the chances of Punisher being DLC? He is "all-new" after all.
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>>180772507
Luck and poking
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>>180769927
>if some motherfucker in SF did a low kick and it was an overhead with low invincibility, it would be shit design. But in GG it is okay because...?
Because that shit does not exist?
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>>180772368
cfn?
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>>180772643
WargodRa
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Anyone in West coast US trying to start a lobby? Looking to improve.
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>>180761875
>not owning sticks for multiple consoles
>not owning sticks with different parts in them for different games
lol at your life bud
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>>180772636

Bruh I love GG and think dusts are fine but let's not act like some of those animations aren't wack for overheads.
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>>180772969
So who does a low kick with low invincibility for a dust?
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>>180764290
>>180764745
ggs anon
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>>180772643
>>180772845
Anon-kun?
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>>180772636
May, Slayer, and Elph have some bs overheads. Leo's 2d is a horrible animation for a sweep.
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>>180772539
why is cash debtroid trying to be funny though
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mfw I 6P CH I-No right in the pussy when she tries to HCL near me
>>
>ARMS IS DESTROYING TEKKEN IN SALES
WTF KAPPABROS THIS WAS /OURYEAR/
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>>180772969
I'll always find Axl skipping rope funny because of that.
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>>180772636
Kum 5H
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>tfw you ask for games, anon asks for your cfn, you give it to him, and he ghosts on you

Maybe I should play on a smurf account
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>>180773223
GGs. Is that purple spinny thing Faust does unblockable? That shit hit me every time.
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>>180773708
It's a proximity unblockable/command grab
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>>180773708
It's a command throw.
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>>180773708
Yeah it's an unblockable. It basically acts as a command grab, except you can burst it.
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>>180772008
what the fuck is with the heavy redesigns every game?
also any dinosaurs?
>>
>>180773708
It's an unblockable proximity grab
Not an actually command grab(i.e. you can burst out of it and Faust can get hit during it), but close enough
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>>180772969
Tekken main here, the animations in GG are totally fair
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>>180773708
backdash is the best option against it because it will tag jumps as well. or jump fd.
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>>180772969
dust is meant to be a "launch" attack which is why they don't look like overheads.
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>>180773356
>May, Slayer, and Elph have some bs overheads
Which? What inputs? You're just talking out of your ass.
>>180773534
only the second hit is an overhead. is not a low kick.
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>>180773829
Uriko was an unplayable boss in the first game, she was made playable in 2 with a new moveset and beast, they later re-added old Uriko beast/move set with the character Uranus who was a hidden superboss.

Other redesigns are Long, who got a new moveset in the second game and his old moveset was given to his clone (actual clone) Shenlong.
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>>180773862
GG is the honest man's game
>>
jiver = sfv player
goober = ???
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>>180774281
goober gear player
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>>180774281
guilty gear you noob
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>>180773783
>>180773789
>>180773810
>>180773848
>>180773884
Alright, that makes sense. Faust overall seems pretty scary with his long ass normals and random stuff. Let's play again sometime Brick, I'm determined to stop sucking one day.
>>
Reminder that people who suck at fighting games automatically gravitate towards grapplers
>>
If I want to go somewhere and get SFV games since none of you apparently play despite how much you talk about it, where is the best place to go?
>>
>>180774442
SFV discord maybe?
>>
>>180774513
Link it pls
>>
Someone please teach me how to get good at SFV.
>>
>>180774442
matchmaking?
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>>180774410
I feel like I'm be called out
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>>180774442
Are you saying this place is for depressed and socially-impaired people who only want to wallow their misery with others?
>>
>>180774410
Zoners*

You actually need to play footsies to use a grappler. With a zoner you can do a lot of damage with fireballs and uppercuts
>>
Blade Arcus
Chaos Code
Nitroplus Blasterz

which of these is most fun to learn/trainingboar? I wanna get one while there's a sale.
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>>180774403
That's the right attitude!

If I can give you some advice, stop doing random divekeks in neutral against Faust. I don't play I-No so I don't really know what you should do, but I'm sure the random divekeks are not the thing.

As I said I'm no expert on the matchup, but it seems like the kind of matchup where you really struggle to get in, but when you do you should really make it count since Faust's defensive options are not as good as other characters. I felt like your pressure was predictable and especially against Sol you basically never tried to bait DP so wake up DP was a free CH.
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>>180772539
>goobers getting destroyed by trash metroid
LMAO
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>>180774782
Don't buy Blade Arcus, it succs (also there is a free demo on steam that lets you even play online with 4 characters, so check that out if you're really curious about the game).

Never played Chaos Code but I heard good things about it.

Nitroplus seems like a fine trainingboar game with the assist shit.
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Why do we call them "sniffs"?
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>>180762521
It's really not. A dial-a-combo bugfest with wonky hitboxes is not "fine."
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I know people hate grapplers and Zangief and SFV, but fuck I love playing him simply for the mind games and conditioning.

My favorite two things are :
Using fully charged stand HP as a poke and then changing it up by throwing out the uncharged version once they start whiff punishing it. They'll move in just as I throw it and they get hit by the second one so much.

and

Using the stand MK to hop forward and SPD them at least once, and then read their neutral and away jumps after they get scared of the hop only to EX air SPD them as they run away.

Getting beat by a Zangief is fucking infuriating, but damn it feels good when you just read them like a fucking book and condition them like a lab rat.
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>>180775052
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>>180774410
>Snake Eyez Gief main
>outfootsied J Wong's "OP normals" Karin with "super stubby" Akuma
Makes sense
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>>180774782
Get uniel or arcana heart instead if you don't already have em. Those games are just not good
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>>180774117
May's 6k, Elphelt's 6p, Slayer 6k/it's late, Ram's KPP
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>>180775084
>win a straight up coin flip
>think you're a god of mindgames
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>>180773435

He can't be good so he has to be something.
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>>180775272
I never claimed I was a god, but posts like yours are another reason i love grapplers.
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>>180775234
the fugg

GG has some dumb overhead animations like Millia's dust, but May's 6K and Elphelt's 6P look as overhead as a move can look
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ibuki's volume 2 trials are pretty cool desu. I literally never use the multiple kunai
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>>180774442
3 times I have tried to play with fgg people. Its not worth it, 95% of the people here are socially retarded and salty. Never again.
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>>180775234
And what exactly is wrong with those?
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>>180774247

>Spent full bar

Honestly honest
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>>180772539
>Zidane was right
I mean they do sometimes get undeserved shit, but the community never looks inward to see their own hypocrisy.
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>>180775084
if I'm trying to avoid an spd off a read I just backdash because I don't want them to have the satisfaction of landing air spd
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>>180775084
every character does that and it's much harder and more complex. god gief players are such fucking scrubs.
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>>180774880
Yeah, my offense definitely is fraudulent as hell. If I struggle to get in it's easy to panic and just autopilot once I actually do. Most people I've played don't grab or DP a lot, so I often get away with it.
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>>180775234
Does this look like a low kick to you?
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>>180772539
>Say that GG sucks without giving any reason in particular
>LOL TRIGERED XD
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is there a tier list for skullgirls?
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>>180775582
I do feel that air SPD's do mental damage. Especially if you hit them with two grounded ones and hit them with a third in the air after wake up. I can just feel their anger.

>>180775591
Please share some examples.
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>>180775272
t. shitter

The SPD/normal coinflip is in favor of the defender.

Just hold upback. If you get hit you take damage, but you're out of the blender. If you avoid a grab you're out. The only way for the Gief to counter this and get oki is to use air spd. That is a hard read and can be punished on reaction. Hell, if you upback while pressing a normal as early as possible you'll beat that too.

You could also hold up and possibly get a max damage combo and momentum.

Stop being shit and bad and scrubby.
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>about to embarrass myself on stream in 20 minutes or so
I think I'm gonna be sick bros.
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>>180775824
Big band is the only character worth playing everyone else is deviant art shit
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>>180775615

You shouldn't worry about getting in first, you need to create a situation that lets you in.

You can't always challenge a character in their element, but you need to think about knocking them down or putting them in hit stun or something so you can get in without having to play silly guessing games that they can react to.

This isn't always easy, but it's usually possible.
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>>180772539
>your stick doubles as a sword/lighter

Nice
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>>180775615
Faust has a million great anti airs so getting in is hard. You have to do note into mixup/safe jump and do some shit with her jump normals.

never watched this but probably a good idea of what to do/not do for the next 10-15 minutes in this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mkfrhw4gFI&t=00h41m12s
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>Complaining about zangief in 2017
You can't be serious. Is it that bronze Kolin?
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>>180775234
>Slayer 6k/it's late
Okay 6k I can kinda get
But how the fuck does this not look like an overhead
He's punching downward for fuck's sake
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>>180775946
Link to the stream so i can laff at you ,i have nothing else to do now.
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>>180772539
>>
MARVEL
STEAM
please
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>>180775824
parasoul = valentine > eliza > everyone else.
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>>180776096
>complaining about zangief in 2017 when zangief is top 5 in the main street fighter game is unwarranted
But yeah this nigga in silver should try just holding upback and anti-airing lmao
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>>180774013
They also have a bright fucking orange effect on them. Anyone who complains about them being overheads is a retard for that fact alone
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>>180776119
Forgot pic
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>>180775820
I feel like the emoji gives away he was just shitposting. Didn't he used to play GG in the past?
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>>180775824
Yeah, a million of them
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>>180775936
This.
Also if you get put in a 50/50 situation and neutral jump, if you win you get a full damage combo upwards of 300.
If Gief wins he gets an SPD that hits for like 200ish.
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>>180775824
boys >>>>>>>>>> girls
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>>180772539
How could anyone get that he was joking?
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>>180776201
I can't play right now, but if you add me we can play sometime later.
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>>180775079
Marvel also have dial combos, fagget
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>>180772539
friendly reminder that cash debtroid is an OG goober
he played the game back in #Reload and all of its successors including Xrd
he dropped Xrd for SFV because Xrd was shit

goobers will NEVER recover from that
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>>180776254
>Top 5
Nah, he has too many bad matchups. Ignore anything Nemo says about Gief he is just assmad that Itazan bodies him everytime.

The only Gief to win a major is snake eyez and even then snake did terribly in tournaments until he picked up a sub Akuma to cover bad matchups.
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>>180775234
>slayer 6k
>he does a hop with kick coming from above
>slayer IL
>he does a massive overhead attack
>may 6k
>she hops on the opponent

???
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I still don't get why people come to 4chan to randomly ask for "games". There are 152 IPs in this thread. There will be many more people in the matchmaking/lobbies of the game you play and probably closer in skill and location
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>>180772539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcERe5pd8yI
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>>180776337
Neutral jumping is a terrible fucking option against a zangief with a proper range, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>180776201
My steam btw.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Luvcheez
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>>180776438
We're already friends on Steam my dude. Not sure if I show up as Bagibbles or lulzzlul but hit me up whenever for games. I want to show you mah Jill.
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Rev2 or Tekken 7, which one is the better game?
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>>180776540
>I don't know why people come to a fighting game general to ask for people to play fighting games with
HMMM...

>>180776587
It isn't terrible unless he is OSing with regular grab every time. 99% of Zangiefs, even top ones like Itazan and Snake Eyez don't use the normal throw OS every single time they want to throw.
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Ha Ha
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>>180776769
Rev 2 probably, it has way more content too.
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SKULLGIRLS
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>>180776587
If they go for the meaty SPD and you neutral jump, you'll get a full combo.

If they go for regular grab, you have fucked up.
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>>180776859
>>180776859
>>180776859
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I'd like the Injustice series a lot better if NRS knew how to make attractive character models in any way, but goddamn does every single person in the series have a horseface.
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anyone wanna play t7? psn east. will settle for rev 2 or inj 2, but rusty af.

>>180776769
both great with a lot of overall similarities, but focus on different aspects of fundamentals.
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>>180776540
Aside from Tekken ranked I haven't used in game matchmaking in years. There's literally no point when discords and this thread (now it's less but you can still get games) exist.
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>>180776308
GG was his first fighting game and he won a load of tournaments when he was only 14 years old and considered a prodigy. He thinks the new GG games are ass so he stopped playing them.
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>>180776512
Snake didnt use Akuma once at CEO. He is back to full Gief more or less.
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>>180776769
Rev 2. Tekken has so many god awful designs in it that are outdated and pure shit but stay in because legacy. These awful mechanics leave the game in kusotier/strictly for koreans.
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>>180771096
You're the retard, it not only looks just like him but he kicks the exact same way and even has his backfist move
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>>180777316
Put some effort into your bait
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>>180777316
A) Both of those characters existed before hwoarang
B) neither of them look or play like hwoarang in the slightest
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>>180775691
Then she has an almost identical attack for her 6HS which ISN'T an overhead for no reason at all.
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>>180776769
Can we just go with "neither" and hope they go away?
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>>180779651
6HS is only slightly similar, but even then it's not like that hits low, so even if somehow you couldn't tell the difference it wouldn't matter because you can just block both of them high.
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>>180774749
yikes

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