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>>>NEWS<<<
Destiny 2 Gameplay Reveal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn1dML6RC5w
Destiny 2 E3 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8E7jUjOQi0
PC Details: http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2-pc-reveal/
Latest TWAB: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45983/7_This-Week-At-Bungie--06222017

>>>RESET INFO<<<
Nightfall: Void Burn, Brawler, Fresh Troops, Airborne, Daybreak
Heroic Strikes: Solar Burn, Specialist, Juggler
Heroic Story: Brawler, Match Game
Crucible Weekly: Mayhem Clash
Trials: Asylum
Xur: Tower North

Deathsinger Challenge: Kill all adds and kill deathsinger with sword
Crota Challenge: Nobody can pick up the sword more than once
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Where is alpha team?
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1st for a few autists argue and bicker at eachother over opinions and nothing destiny related gets discussed as they throw poop at eachother and REEE
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>>180702116
The Alpha Meme's dead; bury it.
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>First Ghost Awakening is the date when your guardian was created
>D2 doesn't allow you to change your transferring characters face before starting
>to change Guardians face, you have to delete character and lose First Awakening date in D2
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>>180702909
>deleted my day 1 main character a year ago
>nothing but regret, stats instantly tanked to joff- tier,and had to redo moments of triumph 2
>mfw first ghost awakening is one of the fucking alts I barely put effort into
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>>180702909
>>First Ghost Awakening is the date when your guardian was created
Are you talking about eyes up guardian? The first mission of D1 that you do when you just make a character? That's cannonically set at a same point in time regardless of when the character was made.
>>D2 doesn't allow you to change your transferring characters face before starting
Just make a new one, regardless of how old the character data is, cannonically the character is always the same age on the same timeline.
>>to change Guardians face, you have to delete character and lose First Awakening date in D2
What the fuck do you keep saying "First Awakening"? There's no such thing as "First awakening date"


Your character will either be D1 or D2. there's no "First awakening guardian' And regardless of when it was made, its the same guardian according to canon.
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>>180702116
lol who?
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>>180703246
You're literally not losing anything. You're stressing out over a number that exist only in your head.
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>>180703338
>cannon
>cannon
>cannon
>cannon
D1 story was shit
ghost awakening is character creation date

>>180703664
those numbers are shown in-game
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What's the point of platform war bullshit?
Its literally everywhere and its not like PC is responsible for it because there's just as much PS4 vs. Xbox going on this time.
There was some before but never this bad. What the fuck do these people get being angry over other platform and trying to dick measure imaginary numbers?
Why can't people just play the fucking game, what's with the constant need to one-up one another? Just join a fucking hiking club or a boxing gym if you need to lash out testosterone, holy shit.

>>180704165
>D1 story was shit
I fail to see how it has anything to do with what I said? Also I'm not sure why you quoted the same word four times. It was used correctly.
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>>180704165
Has Bungie commented on what "first ghost revival" references? And just to be clear I'm not asking what people think it "clearly represents". Yes or No, did Bungie comment on it? I just want to know, its all the same to me, all my characters look like garbage and I'm deleting all my Destiny 2 the second I boot up Destiny 2.
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>>180704372
Because PC desperately wants to act like this will be the superior way to play D2, even though your experience won't be nearly as good since your achievements in D1 won't transfer, and mods and cheats are as good as impossible. Xbone and PlayStation always hated each other, but PC is that obnoxious 3rd party that both sides hate even more
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>>180706739

kys peasant

Enjoy your 30 fps powerpoint presentation
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>>180706739
>Because PC
But I specifically opened with how its not just PC and even explained why. You. You are literally the kind of person I was talking about. Starting shit with PC users out of nowhere.

And then this is what you get >>180706910


And I bet neither of you has either. I'm sure you're aware nobody finds you funny or clever, and there's only so hard you could try just to get a giggle yourself.

So still, what's the point of starting this shit up?
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>>180706910
Enjoy not having veteran rewards, shitter
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Lore on the most beautiful planetoid in Destiny 2, Nessus
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>>180706910
>PCuck using legoldenface
???
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>PCcucks and xcucks will wait another year for exotic weapons
KEK
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>>180711081
don't worry they can come back to d1 and play the worst pvp maps
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>>180711248
Hey Xcuck are you enjoying the jade rabbit?
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>>180711081
Not to mention the strike specific legendary drops from the strike they have to wait a year for, that will probably be just as cool or cooler than the ones from D1. ex Theosyion Vibrissae
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>>180711374
Yeeeeee
certain strike specific drops and the sublime sets have always been the most aesthetically badass.
Funny how they give PS players the best looking shit ;)
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PLAY
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STATION
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EXCLUSIVES
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BITCHES
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GET READY TO GET JELLY AF ALL OVER AGAIN IN D2
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lol
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I hate Destiny. I don't want to play Destiny 2 but I must because I'm dgelite.
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>>180696220

>we've gone from Joe Staten and his handpicked writing team
>to Joe and co. leaving/being forced out of Bungo and being replaced by two-bit fem shit writers

I want off this ride
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>>180711848
>>180711994
>>180712116
>>180712238
>>180712372
I'd rather my silky 60fps, desu
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>>180702116
Preparing for the Bungie Day announcement of their newest member
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with the expansion pass being £25, do you think we're in for D1-esque two mini content packs before a full price TTK/RoI type-of-deal?

I can't fathom there only being the two DLC over the next three years, so it seems beyond likely to be the case
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>>180716890
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>>180712372
>outrageous fortune returns
sasuga
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>>180717047
it just seems a shame given how shit those two packs were, namely The Dark Below
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>>180716890
they've promised it's going to be two big ones like TTK and ROI this time. people hated those mini dlcs.
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>>180717294
>Destiny 2 - Sept(/Oct) '17
>expansion #1 - Sept '18
>expansion #2 - Sept '19
>Destiny 3 - Sept '20

we'd be in for insane content droughts unless they really step up the volume and content of their holiday events
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>>180717294
>>180717463
You're not going to be getting x2 The Taken King sized expansions for $30.
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>>180717463
size comparison =/= release date
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>>180717616
>they've promised it's going to be two big ones - >>180717294

and going by that, there's no way they'd release multiple full-sized expansions within the same year and even if they did, that just means the tail end of D2's life cycle would be void of new content
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>>180717774
Bungie has shown maturity and progress with this series, if you still think after three years they will release an expansion as abysmal small as Dark Below, you are going to be in for a surprise.
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>>180717965
Not to mention there were serious console limitations along with countless other issues before launch and beginning growth of year 1 Destiny.

With Destiny 2 now being on current gen, they have already proven they can do more than before.
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>>180717965
>not simply expecting...
>x2 strikes
>x3 crucible maps
>x5 story missions
>x1 end game activity

look into your soul and you know it to be true
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>>180718096
Nothing is true, it keeps changing in many positive ways, with all the new development assets everything is permitted.
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>>180718194
I feel you're setting yourself up for disappointment, at least I can (hopefully) be proven wrong and turn out happily surprised
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>>180718243
Everyone expected every Destiny dlc to be like TDB, they were proven wrong for two and a half years.
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>>180718326
what? No, they didn't. People were anticipating "Comet" (The Taken King) the whole fucking time as the leaked timeline alluded to it being a full sized expansion unlike TDB
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>>180717965
>high as fuck hopes
I'll believe it when I see it
they're off to a bad start already with this account migration shit
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>>180718405
You're just an entitled spoiled hater honestly.
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>>180718739
I'm hardly a hater when I've already paid for the digital deluxe edition, I'm just being realistic and not falling for the hype like I made the mistake of doing for round #1 of Destiny
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>>180718849
whatever dude. How about you leave your toxic attitude behind?
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>>180718739
This isn't the YouTube comments section, you queer.
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>>180718708
How about you stop chocking on PC dick and stay with your console account,
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>>180718886
>not thinking Bungie are an infallible entity is being toxic
take that shaft out of your throat, anon
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>>180718928
>stay with your console account
the game could come sans raid on PC and I'd still rather play it there and not on console platforms. Sorry pal.
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>>180718849
>not falling for the hype like I made the mistake of doing for round #1 of Destiny
>I've already paid for the digital deluxe edition
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>>180719154
I don't see how paying an extra $10 does anything to show my hype level, if anything it shows my inability to not spend money frivolously; I'm going to play D2, so why not? Doesn't mean I'm not going into it without a realistic set of expectations
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>>180719254
>realistic set of expectations
>parroted /v/ knowledge
This isn't 2014 launch newfriend, you know Bungie will do better.
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>>180719254
>10
*$30 which means you wanted the expansion pass despite spouting dark below content memes.
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>>180719337
>you know Bungie will do better

no, I don't, I don't have an all-seeing eye; I feel they dropped the ball time-and-time again with D1 and will be going into D2 with my eyes wide open

I /hope/ they do better and I'm not screaming "Bungie are shit! Boycott them!", I'm just doubtful much will change between D2 and D1's content cycle
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>>180719456
why would I buy the game and not the expansion pass, too, though? I'm not a casual and furthermore, I hate myself

TDB may have been a pile of shit, but that doesn't mean I wasn't running Crota x3+ a week
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>>180719480
What were you wanting from them that the never gave? There has been nothing but improvement for Destiny 1. Or are you speaking from the 'played the beta then quit' standpoint.
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>>180718708
This whole thing is stupid.
If you want the emotes that fucking much, rebuy the god damn game. If you're such a fucking autistic faggot that spending real world money on cosmetic content isn't a fucking CUT OFF point, you deserve all the pain you get.
Just like all the faggots that are mad that Eververse shit doesn't carry over.
"M-muh money!"
Maybe don't spend money on useless, cosmetic shit. Idiots.
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>>180720470
I never bought Silver or any of the content covered by Silver, but it would have been a nice gesture if they gave you a token % of the Silver you'd spent in D1 back in D2, assuming not just having total carry-over of content bought
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>>180719557
>There has been nothing but improvement for Destiny 1.
Not much of a challenge when your base game is a 4/10 subpar letdown.
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>>180720867
That's what happens when you combine two deep pocketed companies and ideals clash.
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>>180711643
>Destiny was originally going to be an Xbox exclusive purely out of Bungie's loyalty to the console
>Sony had to pay Activision to get the upper hand
I don't know what's worse: Bungie whoring themselves out, Sony having to bribe developers just to make them like their console, or you thinking that's a good thing.
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>>180722920
>Destiny was originally going to be an Xbox exclusive purely out of Bungie's loyalty to the console
[citation needed]
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>>180723027
I can't remember exactly where it is, but there's early design dockets that list the 360/xbone as the sole platforms, and all the alpha ui shots are Xbox.
Then they got desperate for needing money to make the game and went with Activision.
Which then ended up shafting them so hard most of the bungie team left to work for 343 on halo.
Thus why the vanilla story was shit, because Staten took his story with him when he left like a year before the game came out.
Activision decided that the game needed to be broken up in different dlc segments as well.
So throw having to cut parts of the story out to turn into dlc on top of a shorter development window and it becomes understandable why everyone would leave.
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>>180716232
Joe did write one of the blandest Halo novel. I was actually surprised by how good his work on Destiny was.
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>>180723881
Joe's the writer for Crackdown 3

it kinda makes me want to play it whereas I doubt I'd give a shit otherwise
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>>180729675
WHY DOESN'T HE COME BACK TO HALO REEEEE
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>>180729970
I don't think there is a single person alive who can save the literal chasm halo has written itself in

Not like we are that much better off, but at least we don't do shit as retarded as killing a playable character in a fucking comic
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I saw 3 people on my friends list who always play Destiny playing Fallout 4 a bit ago.

Did I miss something? I havnt heard any new news for that game and its not on sale on the store. I guess it was just a coincidence.
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daily reminder that boys make the best girls
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>>180718708
Lmao pc cucks btfo
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>>180723656
>I can't remember exactly where it is,
Because its not real.

Followed Destiny for about four and a half years, since the first rumor sprung up. This was never even a rumor so I don't know where the fuck you got the idea, but it sure as fuck wasn't from this reality.
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>>180717463
They also repeated ad nauseum that they learned how important content is from D1, and that D2 is set up from ground up to have rapid and frequent live events and content updates.
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>>180718708
>Bungie anounces TTK
>As always, CE has exclusive content
>People get pissy and demand the exclusive content
>But this is exclusive content for CE, Bungie says, we can't just hand it out to everyone.
>Its okay if its not for free, we just want a chance to get it too without having to buy the game a second time people said.
>Okay, Bungie said, that's fair.
>Make separate DLC pack with all the exclusive items.
>Literally nobody buys it.
>To this day people still bitch and moan they should have gotten it for free.

I've seen this before in other communities, people demanding they get all the future content for free just because they bought the base game. Hell i'd be willing to bet that people who cried the most about the CE exclusives ended up never buying TTK anyway. Its cool wanting more, but this was the first time I saw people act like they were owed the CE content even if they bought the base game.

I don't know if you guys remember, when Trials first hit how many people in the official forums demanded they be given a free ticket to the lighthouse or rules to accessing it loosened. There were so many that actually said they were entitled to the lighthouse access because they paid for it (As in buying the content entitles you to all the items from it even if you don't clear the content) its fucking ridiculous.

Luke smith was a fucking retard and his attitude was the problem, but there was nothing wrong with CE items or microtransaction emotes. Destiny Community is just unjustifiably entitled.
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New level 4 Guardian here, the combat in this game is really fun so far. What weapon types are the best? Right now I'm sticking with auto rifles

Also this Shaxx guy seems like a badass
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>>180739273
For PVE use whatever is most comfortable to you, sniper rifles and shotguns and rockets will naturally do the most damage. PVP you will want to wait for when your subclass is close to being maxed out and have better gear. Until then, enjoy your journey to become Legend.
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>>180738856
>entitled
there's that word again
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>>180741212
Am I wrong? Is it not entitlement?

If you need to get a flawless ticket to get to the lighthouse. And you feel and say you deserve to be in the lighthouse because you paid for the DLC is that not entitlement?

If you feel you deserve the collector's edition bonuses because you paid for the base game. Is that not entitlement?

its cute that you can point out the word but the problem isn't it, the problem is faggots like you who think its somehow taboo to say it. So if you know where Reddit is, maybe you should take your own advice and fuck right off to it.
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>>180739273
As far as weapons go, use what you're comfortable with - there are good weapons in every category, so get a feel for what you like. Keep in mind each type of weapon is further divided into archetypes (like high Rate of Fire versus high Impact - basically the gun's stats) and some perks are utter garbage that can ruin a gun (exhumed or guerrilla fighter) while others will make otherwise mediocre guns worthwhile.

As >>180740928 said, snipers, shotguns and rocket launchers are considered best in their categories (special and heavy) because of the utility they offer.

I too would recommend holding off on PvP till you have more subclass nodes unlocked and better weapons. While the Crucible does scale your armor and damage to be on par with everyone else, their equipment will have so many more perks that they'll generally blow you out of the water.
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>xcucks finallly getting the jade rabbit after destiny 2 is released
Lulululil
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reminder that GG is OP
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>>180744502
reminder you're a shitter if you can't avoid a golden gun until it runs out
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fallen walkers will work with 3oC right?
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>>180746345
No, same for ultras with shields
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>>180703343
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>>180746345
Are the named? No? Then no.
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>>180702909
Where did they confirm you cant change your guardians appearance ?
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>>180750501
it was on the news this mroing
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>>180746243
>>180744502
When are we getting an exotic that lets you see through walls during GG
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>>180750739
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Do you think the game will run well on pc?
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>>180752426
no
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>>180752426
Who knows. The game was running 4k 144 (Captured at 4k 60) On the PC footage on ultra settings.
But that being said, literally all the footage we have came from Nvidia's personal "We have infinite money" display machines so there's that. No telling until August really.
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>>180744502
Reminder that you're UP lmao
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>>180752282
Are there even female Fallen? At this point I assume they reproduce through cloning vats or something.

We see huge Cabal bases that we never go inside, but presumably they have barracks and mess halls in there.

The Hive have massive structures including nests, temples, monuments and whatnot.

The Vex are weird time robots that just warp wherever, but even they seem to cultivate places of worship.

The Fallen, literally everything you see of them involves fighting in some way. I think Archon's Forge is the closest we get to anything cultural. But you never see anything else.

Also, are the Fallen in our solar system ALL the Fallen, like their entire civilization chases the Traveler after their homeworld got ravaged by the Hive, or are the ones we see like a military expedition?
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>>180755081
There are female fallen out there, Cayde-6 has a really good grimoire card in which he fights Hive with a female Baron. For all we know they might look the same as males do, and we haven't heard any female fallen voices.
There are definitely more Fallen out in the solar system too since we see a brand
new House in one of the trailers
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>>180755476
I don't mean, are the Fallen we've seen in D1 the only Fallen. I mean, has the entire Fallen civilization (whether we've seen it all or not) migrated here? Like do they control other stars, or live on other planets, and the Fallen here are just a fleet of military-aged (mostly) men?
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>the rumors that we can't change our guardian's appearance and that the cc will be the same one from d1
plz no
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>>180755476
>There are female fallen out there, Cayde-6 has a really good grimoire card in which he fights Hive with a female Baron. For all we know they might look the same as males do, and we haven't heard any female fallen voices.
>There are definitely more Fallen out in the solar system too since we see a brand
>new House in one of the trailers


There are 2 in D1. Drevis Baroness and Grayris taken Baroness.

They look like their male counterparts.
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>>180756371
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>>180756360
>rumors
It's already confirmed. Did you seriously expect more out of Bungie?
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>>180756710
when was it confirmed?
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>>180755081
The Vex are milk monsters that use frames to fight, that is why the first 'god' you fight is a giant blob.
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>>180756710
Different anon
I've heard people say its confirmed but havent seen an actual source
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>>180756830
E3.
Like Smith twitter iirc.
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>>180757007
fucking lame, what's their excuse?
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>>180755081
>Also, are the Fallen in our solar system ALL the Fallen, like their entire civilization chases the Traveler after their homeworld got ravaged by the Hive
yes
basically they left all their culture and tech behind to cram as many nobles into their ketches as possible.
the little culture they have is basically a memory of who is supposed to be in charge, and what little tech they still have is all made for war since they got buttfucked by the Darkness.
same boat humanity is in, but we're actually cool guys and the traveler likes us, unlike the Fallen who are nerds
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>>180756830
https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/45967

>â‹™Will players be able to edit their migrated Character's customization options in Destiny 2?
>No. There is currently no plan to allow players to edit the customization options of an imported Character.

Read it and weep BIDF
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>>180756360

>implying D2 won't just be rehashed D1, right down to the two DLCs being rehashed OG D1 storylines
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>>180757220
>Keris, a guardian who had her eyes punched out by the Cabal sends you to kill Ghaul's son in some giant Cabal gym
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>>180757143
Nothing. They just said no.

I don't see why anyone cares, its already been confirmed legacy rewards are account bound, not character bound. Just delete it and start a new one. I know I will.

I understand some people think the characters will be stamped with their creation mode like image implies here >>180704165

But its not like it makes any difference even if that is the case its just a string of numbers.
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>>180757340

Goddamn it, now I'm fucking imagining our Guardians fighting the Cabal's version of some US Marine dudebros in a fucking gym, thank you
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So, in all the hype for D2 and character creation being looked at and so on, has Luke Smith or Bungie at large actually mentioned how many character slots we're getting this time around? I can understand if 3 was a technical limitation the first time around, but there should be no reason we couldn't get at least 6.
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>TFW you delete your day1/main for shits'n'giggles.
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>>180758631
Unless there is 6 classes, there is no reason to have that many slots.

Remember this game is server side, not an offline rpg like Borderlands and Kingdom hearts.
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>>180758631
>have to grind out twice as many characters as before to max level
That sounds terrible
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>>180758801
>tfw it looks like you barely played the game anyway so what the fuck does it matter?
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>>180758962

Fuck that, what if I want to have one of every sex and race?
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>>180759130
It looks that way because the character is deleted friendo.

https://secret-scrubland-31430.herokuapp.com/

It only shows current characters, doesn't count deleted ones like wastedondestiny does.
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>>180758631
>I can understand if 3 was a technical limitation the first time around, but there should be no reason we couldn't get at least 6.

There's a pretty good reason why we don't need 6 though.

Three character slots, Three classes. Sub-classes and skilltrees can be changed on the fly without any cost, and all the races and genders have nothing unique to them asside from face which you don't even see 99% of the time.

I understand you might want to just have a different character to fuck around with but, there's literally nothing you could say to justify doubling the server cost per user as things stand.
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I like robo butts.
Should i create exo-female character?
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>>180760001
yeah, the girl characters you make in this game have huge asses
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>>180760298
Nice~
Sadly i cant find any good screenshots of them.
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xbone raid?
Maybe Kings Fall?
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>>180760923
I would but I don't want to drag the team down
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>>180760923
I'd be down for a Drama Queens Fall!
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>>180761348
who?
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>>180761425
Straylost TeaCup
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>>180761519
I know you're lying Virus/bean
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>>180758801
>>180759329
Holy shit, this is depressing...
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>>180765223
forgot image...
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>>180757446
>But its not like it makes any difference even if that is the case its just a string of numbers.

That string of numbers is going to be the only way in D2 to prove you've been here since Day 1. I'll be sure to shitpost frequently with "Post first revival dates" just to trigger people like you who deleted THE guardian.
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>>180702042
Don't buy destiny 2. Game will be filled with sjw bullshit
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>>180765915
You're the only one in this thread that isn't gay, senpai
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>>180766120
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>>180765427

All that time, wasted...
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>>180766120
>>180766231
get aids and die
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>>180766120
I'm not gay
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>>180716304
You can keep it, along with all the bullshit problems PC is going to have.
I'd trade "60 fps" for more content, a substantially better community, and the ability to keep my characters I've had since day 1 in Destiny.
Enjoy the brief sensation of being an elitist you will initially get when you pickup D2 a month after everyone else on console has already been playing it. Because not too long after, when you have no friends to beat the raid with because they already did it 2 weeks earlier on console your "60 fps" isn't going to stop you from feeling lonely with the only fun thing left to do is run around solo in patrol snapping pics to post here and spam "muh silkies bro, look at muh silkies eff pee esses"
LMAYO
M
A
Y
O
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>>180767286
Yet.
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>>180713974
That Titan armor looks sick.
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>>180766687
Not sure if yours is worse than mine
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>>180765734
>hat string of numbers is going to be the only way in D2 to prove you've been here since Day 1.

But it doesn't matter, nothing carries over? I know what it represents, that's why I said its just a string of numbers. Its destiny 2, the only people that will care about how logn you played D1 will be basement dwellers and sweaties.
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>warlock's get mid air dash
sweet
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>>180767885
Where did I say PS?
I was just referencing consoles in general because it is common knowledge that PC communities are literally the worst.
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>>180755081
Drevis, Wolf Baronness back during the wolf hunts
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>>180767885
>PC still trying to be relevant
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>>180767404
Nah, I'm a Christian. Never have, never will.
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>>180768328
>wow
>runescape
nah fampai I was too busy playing games that weren't complete shit lol
Thanks for confirming your shit taste though, it means I can stop replying because you are either actually fucking retarded or just another troll.
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>>180768635
>Paying for internet at all.
LOL?!!?
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>>180767950
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>>180768328
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Trials?
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>>180768635
>Playing video games
>Having enough money to spend on things you enjoy such as video games.
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Does performance bonus proc enough to make it a worthwhile perk? Just got a 44 curtain call and thinking about having it replace my found verdict
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>>180755081
There were one or two bounty targets back during House of Wolves, but they had similar models to the other Fallen.

While there might be some scattered Fallen ships roaming around in other systems, most all of them that survived their version of the collapse came to our solar system.
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>>180769783
You're trying too hard dude.
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>>180765915
You sound pretty triggered bro
Do you need a safespace
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>>180765915
You know Oryx was a chick right?
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>>180770873
Fuck off loledy.
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>>180770773
gg shariablue
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>>180770921
Who? Also don't mad over the lore my dude
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>>180770873

Sex is literally irrelevant to the Hive, their assigned role in their society is what determines their sex.
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>>180773495
That still makes what I said true tho so what's the point?
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>>180773495
Sex is irrelevant to everyone here too
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>>180756360
>and that the cc will be the same one from d1
I haven't seen a confirmation on that
fucking hell that'd be sad
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>>180770624
>What is guided games

How are you capable of being this delusional???
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>>180774254
speak for yourself, degenerate scum
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>>180774289

It's not officially confirmed, but literally every sign is pointing to it. The development of D2 was so rushed and retarded that even with a delay and adding a bunch of people they couldn't spruce up character creation.
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>>180767743
that fucking timestamp carries over, everything is a string of numbers in destiny and just about everyone who isn't new will care about your D1 gameplay time

I'd say only newfriends wouldn't care about (their) time spent
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>TFW PC shitposting faggot trying to stir console wars gets a tempban and all his shitposts taken down in a thread that's barely staying afloat.
Feels good man.
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>>180775004
aint it grand
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>>180775004

But I never got banned.
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Will PC destiny have a good modding scene?

I'm pretty interested to see what the community will do with it...
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Small QoL changes you hope for in D2

>Being able to hover over a map mode and seeing what quests you have to do there
>A proper map of patrol region that is slowly filled out as you explore and you can set waypoints on it
>(A maybe) Loosing the bar based stats for guns and giving us proper numbers
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I'm assuming if I preordered at gamestop and used my code on the website with my bungie account attached to my PlayStation account, I'll still be able to use it for pc right? Like it's not locked in since my bungie and PlayStation accounts are linked?
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>>180774641
>that fucking timestamp carries over,
But its literally nothing. its a fucking date that only you see that nobody will even care to look at let alone see, you've built up importance over nothing.
And no, not everything is a string of numbers you super reductionist faggot. Weapons and armors have functionality, emblems and shaders have a cosmetic purpose.
This is literally a fucking number that only shows up in one box in the entire game and does literally nothing to anything.

If it has meaning to you that's fine, but stop with these fucking mental gymnastics of "hurudur everything is a number durrhurr" It makes no sense and you look like a fucking retard when you try to reason this way.

>I'd say only newfriends wouldn't care about (their) time spent
Really? Because I've got about 3k hours played since day 1 and I don't care, and I have the lowest playtime of anyone I know, and nobody I know cares about D1 time in D2. Don't try to attribute your autism to others, its disgusting.

>>180777038
Don't know about the first, but the second one is basically confirmed and third is a no, they've already shown a proper map (don't think you can set waypoints on it, though) And they already show gear still have bars instead of numbers.
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>>180776606
You have to post something banworthy to get banned, the guy who got all his posts removed did.
You didn't you fucking poser lol
Nice try at PCavalry though. I'm sure he appreciates the effort.
Maybe you two can link up and take photos in patrol together!
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>>180777780
No, one beta code gives you one platform selection. Whatever you select beta for, it will generate you that platforms beta code.

So regardless of where you preordered, you use the code on the website, you pick playstation as your beta platform, the site spits out a PSN beta code, you type it in on PSN and download the beta. No PC selection = no PC beta code.
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>>180776971
>modding scene
>every modder would be banned within a week
Why do you PC shitters even keep asking?
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Going to the Moon, next. What should I expect to find?
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>>180776971
>Modding scene.
>For an always online game.
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>>180777975
t. Y2 babby
Everything in Destiny IS a number though, if you haven't figured that out, it's probably why you suck dick at the game lol.
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>>180778158
Well I mean like I'll still get a pc option when I get the email, right? Like I haven't gotten a code or anything because they haven't emailed anyone.
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>>180778046

I only got warning a faggot, kys.

I wish they would enable cross platform play so I could wipe the crucible floor with peasant controller console kids like you :)

>>180778337
WoW has mods and it's always online..your point?
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>>180777975
post time
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>>180778350
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>>180778328
Hive and some Fallen, you will learn about ancient Hive lore.
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>>180778427
>brining up WoW again
Last I checked, WoW doesn't have a dev team that literally detests cheaters and modder of any kind. Pay attention to the thread, dipshit. We already talked about this
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>mfw got to see the demon's/dark souls general deteriorate
>mfw I get to see this general sink too

You console cucks have no idea the shitstorm that is on your horizons.

Should be great fun.
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>>180776971
no modding scene because bungie will lockdown everything hard as shit
would be nice for those user-made performance improvements / tweaks though
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>>180778451
And planning to delete all three characters for Destiny 2 so I can make them look different.
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Sure is Destiny in here.
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>>180778589
Neat, I've been collecting dead ghosts and reading the grimoire as I play. Really makes the game a lot better.
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>>180778884
You can thank the PC cucks for that
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>>180778427
DPS parser isn't a mod.
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>>180778865

10 bucks says no player character voice lines like in vanilla.

It'll be all nolan, all the time...
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>>180778971
Just wait, as you get further into the game there will be special grimoire fragments that go together waiting to be found.
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>>180778865
you're less prideful about your epeen than me then
I want newfriends too see my vet status, and I believe that bungie are being a bunch of fags
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>>180779116
Considering there s a dialogue choice system I doubt it
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>>180778865
Different people feel different ways
>>180779220
Go buy the AoT shirt ya goof.
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>>180779319
huh? since when?
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>>180779319
>HATE NEWSPAPER
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>>180779319
Please give a source for that right now I need to know badly if this is true.
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>>180778865
My ugliest character (titan) is also my main...so I dunno what I'm gonna do yet..my hunter and lock are both sexy bitches though
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>>180778427
Lol I'd like to see you try you fucking casual.
http://www.hori.jp/products/p4/p4_tac_g1_UK/
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>>180780012
>>180778427
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>>180779538
>>180779410
>>180779479
https://youtube.com/#/watch?list=PLWBlk70e-hGJOoJ6wfr06tjeoAH7R9E6L&v=4_IiOwMisXI
Supposedly more information to come the latest game informer magazine on D2
>inb4 youtuber
This guys been on the ball about accuracy more than most other youtubers
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>>180779116
The fireteam chat guys said your characters now properly interact during conversations. Doubt there's gonna be dialogue options but there is actual dialogue this time around.

>>180779339
>Different people feel different ways
And that's fine, but you can't tell me its not retarded as fuck when someone comes in with those broad sweeping "Everyone who isn't new will care about gametime" statements that the dude pulled out of his ass. Have you seen anyone that's been in this game for more than one Christmas actually give a fuck about dick measuring playtime?

>>180779764
If you don't care about a timestamp just delete it, there are no legacy bonuses tied to characters, its all account bound.

I'm gonna keep my warlock maybe because it looks like I want to, but I'm gonna delete my femtitan for a male titan because the armors finally look the right kind of big on male characters. And I'm gonna delete my hunter to make a female hunter instead of the male I had since day 1 and never felt like deleting.
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>>180778427
Post Crucible stats.
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>>180780272
>https://youtube.com/#/watch?list=PLWBlk70e-hGJOoJ6wfr06tjeoAH7R9E6L&v=4_IiOwMisXI
your link literally just takes us to the youtube homepage you idiot.
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>>180780735
Suck my ass you whiny baby
https://youtu.be/4_IiOwMisXI
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>>180780279
>Have you seen anyone that's been in this game for more than one Christmas actually give a fuck about dick measuring playtime? Yeah, normies.
Normies will brag about any achievement and wear it like a badge wherever they go, be it light level, having all exotics, and yes even playtime.
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>>180781339
>byf
fucking gross M8
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>>180781339
>Gaul is now the emperor.

Well, I guess I was wrong, I told an anon the other day he was the general of red legion.
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>>180781339
Can I call you daddy while I do it?
>>180781796
That's funny because normies won't have anything worth bragging about in any of those categories lol
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>>180781339
>another objective mode
CTFCTFCTFCTFCTF
FOR FUCKKING CTF
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>>180781339
MY FUCKING DICK
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>>180781990
Better source than 90% of other destiny related YouTube channels
Whichever chucklefuck in this general whlnhas a GI subscription will have to double check
>>180782026
He's both
I suspect the Consul is Savathun in disguise
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There was one tiny change which I don't know if you people noticed which might affect special difficulties.


The health bar is no longer segmented.
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>>180782350
>Savathun
>not Durandal

>>180782523
For enemies? Destiny 1 never had segmented health bars and Oryx/Shield Brothers worked fine. If I'm not mistaken they are adding segmented health bars to Destiny 2 no?
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>>180782940
>For enemies?
No, for guardians. Its just one long bar now instead of three short ones.
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>>180783331
>one long bar
vs.
>three short bars
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>>180783331
Ah, it looks more sleek too. You would probably still have a shield and such, just looks to be a UI cleanup
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>>180783481
Uhh... Yes? The main healthbar is just one segment and fills up at such. Destiny 1 has a health bar that's broken up into three segments, each regenerating separately when the one prior filled back up. Modifiers that prevent regeneration would still let you regularly recover your last bar at normal speed.
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>>180783481
Not even tall enough to reach his giant cabal dick.
Feels bad man.
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>>180780327
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>>180783481
>>180783747
Yeah, the leftmost bar was considered "health" and the middle/right bars were "shields" that's why there are two helmet perks, one for HP regen on orb pickup, and one with shield rechard on orb pickup.
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>>180783918
That isn't even impressive desu.
Post psn/gt to prove you aren't a lying scrublord otherwise gtfo
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>>180784078
MLGbonghit420
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Which exotic do you want back, not because of how strong it is but because the quest to get it make you feel something good
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>>180784323
gtfo poser.
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>>180783918
You didn't respond. >>180779070
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>>180784376
I don't remember if it had a quest but dammit the Pocket Infinity was fun as fuck
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>>180784078
>>180784440
>>180784323
this is obviously a lie, I'm not him, sorry to disappoint. It's just showing that he could lie so easily.
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>>180785089
>this is obviously a lie
Then why did you lie?
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>>180784376
4th time doing the sword quest so that me can fassbender them 4 knights whenever I please.
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>>180786198
because im bored and have nothing better to do then bait people on /vg/
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>>180787401
>Because I'm lonely and nobody will give me attention I starve for other than people on /vg/ who just wish I would die.

Okay.
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>>180790324
Hit a little too close to home, huh?
Its okay bro, I'm sure someone out there loves you.
Nobody here, but you already knew that.
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>>180790720
1v1 me
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>>180790865
Okay, what's your xbn?
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>>180791051
Tilted Dragon
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>>180791393
Couldn't send an invite, you sure its right?
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>>180791785
Post your name my privacy settings are fucked
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>>180792097
zippy100012
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This stupid fucking retard has the only Gjallarhorn left in the world. How do you take it from her?
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>>180792848
Shadowshot, smoke bomb, and if I have a titan nearby ask for a stun grenade
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>>180792848
I put to suck and gay inside Gallijalaron while she in the make.
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>>180769783
>trying this hard
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>>180792848
I ask her for it, politely.
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>>180793212
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>>180792848
I trade her my-
>oh wait
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>>180793963
The dumb child is intrigued by this idea of doing motions with your body to express thoughts. Maybe you can coax it out of her? What do you do?
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>>180794765
toss some candy or some shit and take my gjally home
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>>180794765
Look her dead in the eye and masturbate furiously.
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>>180780735
>>180781339
>literally no linked source for the video
>scouring gameinformer gives nothing

Byf is clickbaiting
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>>180796393
It would only be clickbait if he didn't mention it in the video, Byf is also very close to Bungie and gets exclusive information.
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>>180796393
Why the fuck would you expect anything from a cringy autismo motherfucker that ends all his videos in latin?

>>180797040
I bet really fucking close that's why every video corrects shit in the last video. Fuck off Byf.
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>>180797345
So based on your post it seems like you watch a lot of his videos. Are you a big fan?
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>>180781339
>improved Zhalo Supercell
MY DIIIICK
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>>180797538
I watched quite a few during Y1, at a certain point I got tired of him constantly being misinformed and the latin really made it hard to tollerate. Eventually I moved on to planet destiny but quit that too after around the time they got ms5000watts because literally everything just turned into shitty setups for her to be able to say "Yeah, me too". Also used to watch Datto until he had his autistic "Everyone that doesn't play like I do is a shitter" meltdown, then when people got mad at him he doubled down on that shit going "I don't mean you people that don't play like me, I mean hypothetical people that don't play like me"

Now I basically follow nothing because I'm getting tired of clickbaiting.

Also I'm nobody's fan, you can watch shit subjectively, I hope you learn this when you grow up, then maybe you can stop being such a thinly veiled damage control defense force.
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>>180797927
>being this upset over e celebs
>>
Who is the best destiny youtuber?
>>
I feel like I'm in the extreme minority of people who thinks the new skill trees will be good. I want to try and address the common arguments I've heard people make, though. Using the Gunslinger as my example.
>They took away so many choices
But look at the ones that were taken away. For the melee nodes, did anyone honestly use Circle of Life? And in the final column, did anyone pick a perk that WASN'T Chain of Woe? Defensive stats should have been determined by armor and not nodes from the beginning, and while you can make a case for some of the Super and class nodes, I fell the new ones fit the 'show-offy marksman' design of the Hunter better.
>They're forcing you into builds
This is a fair argument to an extent, but when you look at it, there really only were one or two viable builds for each subclass to begin with. And I would put money on the new exotics either bringing back new versions of old perks or letting you take perks from an opposite tree.
>They're catering to casuals
You must be the sweatiest of autists to consider this to be a valid argument. In an age where almost everyone has internet access on-demand and even the shittiest games get 200+ page wikis, getting a competitive built only takes as long as it takes you to type 'best [insert subclass here] build'. Weapons and actual skill will still dermine who's better in PvP.
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>>180799139
Don't watch a lot of destiny stuff on yt, though I usually go to Holtzman's stuff when I do.
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>>180799145
I think they'll be more useful, but I'll miss the ability to tweak things, and I think it is a pretty much unequivocal good thing to allow more customization
>For the melee nodes, did anyone honestly use Circle of Life? And in the final column, did anyone pick a perk that WASN'T Chain of Woe?
Knife Juggler and Gambler's Dagger (or just Knife Juggler) are really really fun to use on patrols and other low-level PvE, and have occasionally saved my ass from trash mobs in higher difficulty things when I didn't have time to reload or get into cover
Incendiary Blade and Chain of Woe are much more generally useful though, you're right on that
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>>180800128
I actually vastly prefer Knife Juggler to Incendiary Blade. It's fun to chain-crit with the knife, resets in Crucible are always good, and I've lost track of how many times a desperation headshot knife has saved me when I'm on an empty mag.
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>>180799145
Yeah sure maybe it got rid of some shit perks but why not just make better perks instead of scrap them entirely? Like many devs do, Bungie is cutting things instead of fixing them, removing the problem rather than solving it.
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>>180799139
They all suck, pick your poison.
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Completing these age of triumph crucible nodes and having to play crucible with classes/subclasses that are complete shit just for the sake of completion is absolute suffering.
Every game is full of complete fucking retards just trying to do the book as well, then there are like 1 or 2 dudes just going fucking full on sweat mode for no fucking reason which makes the whole process even more cringe.
Just fucking kill me this is so boring and obnoxious, it would be different if I didnt have to use bullshit that was complete garbage in order to complete the book.
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>>180802792
Then don't do them retard. Unless you have actual Autism you don't need to complete all of the nodes to hit rank 7.
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>>180802792
Try doing it as a Sunsinger if you haven't. That was the one I wanted to brain myself on.
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>>180803705
I wanted to kill myself doing the Nightstalker's grenade one. Vortex is trash for Crucible, my Spikes would fuck off in a random direction half the time, and you can't wombo them with smoke.
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>>180803648
I'm literally doing them just to get to rank 7
Considering each node only give you 1 1/2% completion I'm just trying to finish up ones that are almost done already, it's just driving me up a fucking wall.
>>180803705
iktf
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What was everyone's fastest Deathsinger time?
I got 1:47
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SEX WITH TEACUP YELLOW
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>>180805341
Here lemme ftfy
"nobody has ever had sex with yellowteacup"
ur welcome.
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>>180805776
stop being jealous Drinniol.
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>>180805986
Jiro after getting assfucked by steroid in 1v1
good times
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>>180805986
Who?
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>>180805986
Why is Jiro such a bottom beta bitch?
Jeez louise.
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>>180807284
Who says it's a bad thing
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>>180805986
>
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>>180807360
Anyone who doesn't have brain damage/ mental illness.
Nobody likes you Jiro, why are you still here?
Oh wait you don't have any real friends or relationships, sorry I almost forgot.
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>>180807860
>Nobody likes you
What an overly used and pretentious phrase, surely you can be more creative that that?
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>>180808163
You're not denying that it's true...
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>>180811035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDQD2kTerf0
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Can we all just get along nicely?

Here, have a drawing of the anime version of the ghost saying his classic "Don't do that" line in japanese that I drew a while back.
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>>180806724
The guy that anonymous wants to have sex with
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So I am an inexperienced shitbag that sill never make it to a 12/1 K/D in cruicible or solo raid's with my eyes closed while electrocuting my balls. With that out of the way, I am curious to know what you folks think of the balance (or lack their of) is like between the guardian classes. The very basic gist I seem to get from high-level players is that titans are for babies, warlocks are unbalanced thanks to stormcaller, and ranger's are where all the "real" players are at.
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>>180814782
Ranger isn't a class. Also, there's next to fuck all difference between classes, really, this isn't a real RPG or MMO.
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>>180814782
Each of them is broken in different ways, be it overpowered or underpowered. They all have some shitty abilities and some really good ones. I don't think any particular one is the best, as you can succeed with any class in both PvE and PvP if you know how.

That said, Bungie tends to favor Warlocks the most so they get better treatment usually.
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>>180811950
It's funny that you post your own theme song Jiro.
This is literally what everyone thinks about you, and it's nobody's fault but your own because you are a cringeworthly little bitch boy who posts shit like this
>>180805986
Then acts like a fucking double nigger the very next day.
Just please do us all a favor and kys your self.
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Wait what the fuck. Is Gaul seriously the emperor of the Cabal?
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>>180815362
This is quite a bit more accurate of a theme for Jiro desu.
The lyrics really remind me of him.
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>namefags posting about themselves in an effort to remain relevant
>people discussing namefags in an effort to seem like they fit in

>people discussing people having these discussions (me)

all absolute fucking children, including myself.
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>>180816302
he's not the Emperor referenced in D1; he staged a coup and took over the position of Emperor, yes. I wonder where they go from here with the Cabal in future Destiny content?
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>>180818984
durandal >>180782940
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>>180814782
Titans go fast
Warlock nova bombs
Hunters wombo combo
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>>180814782
Warlocks were usually considered to be bullshit in all ways but not anymore. Titans, Warlocks, and Hunters all have their uses and are incredibly effective at the highest competitive level.
Your opinion is probably warped cause you don't play as much/play casually.
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Which class will be best in D2?
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>>180822650
Dawnblade is cool. I won't deny that. But the fact that they turned Strikers into literal Speeding Locomotives is pretty fucking great. And we get Captain America but the Bubble remains allegedly?
Titans all the way for me.
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>>180824047
I started as a Hunter, so Im excited for Arc Strider. Though I finished up Rise of Iron as a Defender Titan so im tempted to continue with Defender. The only catch is Titan skating is gone so eventually I will compare Strider vs Defender's skill trees to see which I perfer honestly.
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>>180824047
>but the Bubble remains allegedly?
nope, it's a wall of cover, either waist height or full size, there's no bubble anymore; it's also available for any Titan subclass as it's their class ability ala Hunter's dodge and Warlock's buff (poor Hunter's done and got shafted in terms of group utility)
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>>180824321
Makes sense. I'm a Titan main but never really used Defender for anything other than PvE. Almost purely Striker with occasional Sunbreaker games. Just because Defenders didn't seem to be that offensive, which makes sense obviously, but I'm hoping that changes with Sentinel.
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>>180826932
No, I know about the buff but someone was saying that Sentinels could still pop a bubble. Or choose between throwing the shield or popping a bubble or something like that. It was in these threads too. But maybe he was just speculating and I'm remembering wrong. Could have sworn it was a thing though.
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>>180827051
nope, there's no bubble.
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>>180827108
http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2s-luke-smith-on-pc-features-pvp-new-subclasses-and-more/2/

Luke Smith: "The other thing is that I love the Defender Titan, personally. He’s a class fantasy that I really like—and in the team too, oh my gosh the sandbox team feels this way as well. So one of the Sentinel trees actually has the option to, when you cast your super, you can press and hold the super activation and you’ll place a Ward of Dawn instead. I think the Ward of Dawn has this amazing property that I love in our supers when we have them, which is that you can really appreciate a well-placed ward and you can really point at one when your buddy places one badly. It sort of lives there, so it has this lingering effect on combat. It changes the arena in a temporal way, and I think that’s an amazing property for a super. "
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>>180827108
Yes there is, in one of the perk trees you'll have an option to pop a ward of dawn instead of the throwing shield.
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>>180827108
Fuck off retard
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>>180827610
>>180827586
>>180827543
there's no bubble, though.
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>>180827685
You're a fucking idiot
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in the first real expansion (not the inevitably shitty two DLCs that come beforehand) do you think they will introduce subclass #4? And if so, what "element" do you think it would cover? Ice, or something more unique to Destiny's universe?
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>>180828052
>#4
just the missing 3rd one
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>>180828757
surely they won't release sans #3 subclasses...

then again, there's no custom games (again), so I guess they're okay cutting introduced shit for later release
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who else has decided to change their main class after news that we won't keep our characters if playing on PC?

swapping from Warlock to Titan myself
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>>180829219

Titan main prolly moving to hunter
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>>180829219
I might be interested in Warlock after seeing there heal aura ability. We havnt seen much info on the changes to Voidwalker either, but I wouldnt mind giving Dawnblade a try at somepoint. Im still starting with ArcStrider but I can honestly see Warlocks having some great ability synergy.
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>>180796393
>>180797040
>>180797345
Can't find it through google because the information is from the July issue of Destiny 2. Some screenshots of the 10 page spread were leaked.
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>>180832258
*July issue of game informer
Fuck me
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>>180792848
Fuck off, Droid.
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>have destiny 2 digital deluxe preordered on both my xbox and my ps4 now
Lord help me if my brother coerces me into getting it on pc too.
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PCbro here thinking of getting destiny 2.

How is the gameplay compared to halo?

Is it fun to shoot stuff?

Thanks.
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>>180834624
Better gunplay
Yes
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>>180835447
>better gunplay (than Halo)
woah, now
not in MP for sure
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Near the end of a nightfall feel free to join up if you wanted loot
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>>180836014
With PvP being more focused towards primary play and less one-shots it should be more like Halo now.

Spess Magic Halo is still Halo. Well, mixed in with other shooters since it did balance around using sights before Halo 343 kicked into full gear.
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>>180834624
>>180835447
more variation in gunplay, as each weapon type has a lot of variables that can non-trivially change how they are used (low speed high recoil auto vs high speed low recoil) but it's still bungie and i still enjoy just shooting anything and trying out new guns.

exotic weapons usually have an interesting twist on their archetype, and all the gun perks make each weapon interesting even when suboptimal.

try the beta.
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>>180837673
a lot of the ways D2 is different make me think they rushed into a game that had a lot of high level distinctions between it and halo, but now that halo is proving to be a failure under 343, they're comfortable moving back into that space, so we have more emphasis on shooting. abilities def seem to have shifted more toward utility than direct damage, and killing the cooldown-reduction stats will also help shift play toward having to rely on gun skill between supers, so a good player can make a bigger difference than freebie ability/super kills.

looks like good "streamlining" for once. fairer balance that allows for rapid adaptation.
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>>180841068

Are they trying to turn destiny 2 into an esport?

With the talk of competitive play and streamlining...
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>>180842612
from the multiplayer format all being pulled into 4v4 to the longer time-to-kill, it points to a low-key bid for esports relevance.

it's a different era from Halo 3. console players have so many options for multiplayer that having a half dozen different formats isn't impressive. specializing the weapons and abilities is easier when the format is more regular, too.
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>>180829219
I'm a nightstalker main, I have heard nothing of it coming back so I'm worried
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>>180843604

only bladedancer, sunsinger and defender are being replaced
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I WANT TO SEE YELLOWTEACUP AND BV GET BLACKED!
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>>180820053
>Hunters wombo combo
I know "wombo combo" but what thing are you talking about with that?
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>>180847186
when nightstalkers throw their venom smoke bomb and grenade at the same time to secure a kill
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>>180848515
oh, that shit
so glad that's not so common any more
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>>180846970
really has me wondering who the fuck has been sitting here the past two or three years spamming this shit, their life must be hollow as hell.
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What's the best way to go about getting 400LL heavy weapons? And how do I get Age of Triumph ornaments?
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>>180851956
Iron Banner, strike chests, maybe faction packages
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>>180851956
faction packages, fallen saber strike chest, crucible post-game drops. aot ornaments come from doing the weekly featured raid.
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>>180702042
bump
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>>180860241
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>>180862805
Is there anything they cannot possibly do?
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>>180864047
Platinuming Destiny is easy
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>>180815362
>>180816492
>>180807860
>>180805986
>you will never this be this assblasted over a year old event
Thank you Lord in Heaven
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>>180864207
This.

I'm as shitter as it gets, and even I got plat.

Image not related.
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>>180866179
>that trophy name
made me spit my drink
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>>180864207
;_;
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TIGHT
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>>180870987
RIPPLING
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>>180871560
BLUE
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>>180871751
JUICY
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>>180871823
DRIPPING
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>>180872512
SWEET
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>>180872782
HAWAIIAN PINEAPPLE PIZZA
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>>180873618
fucking floridafags
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>>180864207
I didnt yet, im still missing the two that require a clan and the one were you ring the bells in the iron temple
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>>180873618
no furry memes plz this is a safe space
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>>180879901
yiff in hell
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>>180880442
that's the plan
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Anyone wanna do a quick CoE run before the weekly reset? Never done it before but I need it for the AoT quest.
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>>180882109
If you can find one more I'll log back in
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>>180882176
>>180882109
I'm up to help
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>>180882517
Getting ingame now
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>>180882683
>>180882517
omw senpai
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>>180882735
afk for a bit, just post a message and I'll say something when I'm back
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>>180882109
im down
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>>180780205
What the fuck am I looking at
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Thanks lads!
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>>180885506
Sorry I was not much help
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>>180885506
Always
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>>180885008
Move with the controller, aim with the mouse.
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>>180780205
>guys i think my controller has autism
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>>180780205
Fucking hell
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If you have never gone into this room and stood next to these cocoons and listened, I highly suggest you do it.

While reading Ghost Fragment: Ocean of Storms 2.
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>>180891575
God damnit anon now you're just making me remember how angry I am about how bad bungo fucked up their moth aesthetic
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>>180891872
>110 second to post again
When the fuck did that happen?
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>>180891872
Soon.
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>>180891575
There is something special about Titan...
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>>180891872
Those are too pretty to be scary evil darkness monsters though.
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>>180892674
>tfw not cute fuzzy moth gf
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>>180892878
I want to fuck that moth.
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>>180893283
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When will Noobish deliver us our raids?
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>>180892554
>The Nine are ancient leviathan intelligences from the seas of Europa or the hydrocarbon pits of Titan.
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>>180894570
never
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>>180895007
>The Nine are the individual inches of muh dick
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>>180895882
You too?
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>>180895882
Don't be silly, they're the nine, not the one.
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>>180892878
TFW you first realized the lower jaw is gone because it was eaten and replaced by the worm.
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NEVER

LITERALLY

FUCKING

EVER
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>>180897158
>tfw you first realized that the Hive are merely incubating the worms so they can achieve their final form
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>>180899312
All this image tells me is that they should make a notTKB-022 because the aesthetics fit right into this game.
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>>180899528
Rejected concept art isn't canon.

in b4 ahamkara.

Ahamkara are intentionally left ambiguous. The entirety of the dragon theory comes from the fan theories.

Realistically all we know of Ahamkara is how their skulls and spines looked, and that they were possibly dog-sized.

The large worm bones are never specifically identified in the lore and we don't know if they're ahamkara or hive worms or something else entirely.

And we never see a complete ahamkara skeleton, or any for that matter outside of the skull and spine.
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>>180899768
'Dragons that grantes wishes'
is ripped straight from Destiny grimoire, Ahamkara being worms is a fan theory
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>>180901034
Okay.
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what is it about being seared with a blow torch makes salmon so good, my /dg/enerates
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>>180901767
Salmon loses a lot of enzymes, fats, and proteins during the frying/baking process. Searing the surface with a torch seals most of the tiny pores through which all the good stuff oozes out. Causing it to stay inside and cook into the meat, enriching the flavor.
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>>180902202
*extremely destiny voice*it preserves the umami
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>>180899768
I'm not going to say they absolutely are the same thing, but there's a lot of food for thought here.

Here's what we know about the Ahamkara. The bones we have seen probably belonged to lesser, weaker ahamkara (skull of dire ahamkara, young ahamkara's spine). They're referred to as dragons, but it's hard to believe that they would be called that if they really were as small as the ones we use on our armor, so we can assume there are larger ones. Their bones can speak, somewhat telepathically, and still move around despite being technically dead. They have a tendency to make people give into their lust or greed, making great promises about the power they can grant. They were allegedly hunted to extinction at some point during the City Age.

Gheleon had some Ahamkara bones that he "scavenged". Osiris was interested in Ahamkara lore (coincidentally, the plan to destroy Oryx was also facilitated by him). The Ishtar Academy was studying them, as Cayde describes: "We were there for the Ahamkara, parasitic reptilian critters that appeared out of thin air.". Remember that word: parasitic. The flavor text on Ahamkara exotics seems to indicate a fixation with teeth, claws, and death. The only named Ahamkara we know of is "Eao", who "defied extinction". Eao had scales. This probably refers to how Ahamkara still have a will and influence even after death.

Now here's what we know about the worms. The Hive swallow them whole, and the worms live inside their bodies as parasites. Based on the massive size of the Great Worms, and of Oryx himself (hell, even story and strike bosses are super sized for a reason: they are more powerful Hive beings, meaning they've received more tribute), it's reasonable to assume that the worms grow in size the more tribute they receive, since that's how the Hive receive their power. Meaning that lesser, weaker hive would have smaller worms. When a Hive fails to tribute enough to feed his worm, they are consumed by it.
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>>180904605
The worms also make great promises about the power they can grant, and speak in the same manner: "oh person, mine", and they do it even when technically "dead" as well (or maybe a better way to put is that they cannot be truly killed).

They are also vertebrates, despite being referred to as worms. The scientists on the Moon during the Collapse discovered a massive set of bones, the one we see in game, which are arrayed in a segmented fashion (the Great Worms refer to their own "coiling length", and also "folded jaws" and "curled wings") and at the end of a massive, burrowed tunnel. So at least the largest ones have wings, although they're obviously not using them. They also have "scales and teeth" according to the researchers on the Moon. Rezyl Azzir was corrupted by a bone he found while fighting a wizard on Luna, which he then grafted onto his gun. It began whispering to him, and he became the first Dredgen: Guardians who try to harness the Darkness and use it for power. The Worms we know the names of: Akka, Eir, Ur, Xol, and Yul. Short, strange words. Sort of like the name Eao?

So, two obvious conclusions:
1)They both serve the Deep. Seducing mortals by promising them great power, and then corrupting them. This doesn't mean they're the same species, of course, but...
2)They are both parasitic life forms with biological similarities. Scales, teeth, wings, jaws, and talking bones.
3)They both appeared out of nowhere when the Traveler arrived. The Hive were dormant in Earth's moon for centuries before they were discovered around the time of the Collapse, and the Ahamkara appeared out of thin air according to Cayde.

There is simply a lot of circumstantial evidence tying them together. Everything about the Ahamkara falls in line with what we know about the Hive and their relationship with their worms. There's a missing link, but the conclusion I want to come to is that the worms have an endgame.
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>>180904706
Many insects follow this basic life cycle: embryo, larva, pupa, adult. Try and tie this to the worms. We see literal cocoons inside the Hellmouth, so that would mean their adult form is the worms that come out of those cocoons, which are presumably the ones we see writhing around on the Dreadnaught (they make the same noise as the cocoons). But those worms look exactly like moth larva. That would mean that those cocoons are the embryo stage, and the worms that the Hive swallow are in the larval stage. So then, their pupa stage is actually when their inside a creature, feeding off of it as a parasite. So what's the adult stage?

During the pupa stage, hosts either tributes more and more to them, or they fail to tribute and are "consumed". The question is: what happens after the worm consumes it's host? It was living inside of the host, growing in power and hunger, and then it is forced to basically eat the host. What happens next? Surely the worm doesn't just die. That'd defeat the purpose of trapping the Hive in this symbiosis.

I think that consuming the host allows the worm to take the next stage of it's evolution. Like how moths eat their own cocoon for nutrition. What is that stage? There's no way to know for sure. But given the folded wings of powerful worms, the size variations of different power levels of Hive, and the parasitic, cocoon-like relationship of a Hive being and it's worm, I think it's something that can fly around and has teeth and claws. Not unlike a dragon.

Of course, if the Ahamkara are simply the final stage of the Worms, then how did we have Ahamkara during the Golden Age, before there were Hive? That's why I'm hesitant to say they're the same thing. But there are just so many eerie similarities. It's something to think about. I just really want the raid boss in Destiny 3 to be Oryx's worm transformed into a massive, all powerful dragon after the unthinkable amount of lives he has tributed to it.
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just finished the last dlc story missions. did jolder get BLACKED by lord we wuz?
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>>180904605
>>180904706
>>180904792
Legit, you are aware I only read the stuff you had in the spoiler tag, right?
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>>180904836
no, you degenerate fuckhead
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>>180904928
That's fine, I typed it all out more to organize my thoughts than anything else.
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>>180904973
Fair enough.
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>>180904605
>>180904706
>>180904792
You forgot the part where Akka was still able to be a threat to Oryx despite having been chopped to pieces and being very dead. Same thing with the """dead""" worm larva kept by the Proto Hive king which was still able to communicate.

Both of these creatures seemingly persist even after bodily death (undead) so it only lends more credence to there being a connection.
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>>180904973
At least you took off your name this time.
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>>180904792
>i wanna fight eldritch magic shen ron with my warlock kamehameha
me too
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>>180905381
Yeah, true. Akka still has power, just like the little white worm that Oryx's father was driven mad by on Fundament.

By the way, let's really delve into the lore of the Oryx fight. Look at the way Oryx died. With most big bads in Destiny, we pop a bullet or some Light into their face, and they basically go up in flames and crumble. But Oryx is different. Instead of just disintegrating, his body crystallizes and drifts off.

During the fight, he calls power from the Darkness, which is drawn from a massive cavity in his chest. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that's where his worm is. It's been there, burrowed inside his body so long that it's become a part of his appearance. He draws his power from his worm, but it's also his weakness, which fits the relationship between the Hive and the worms.

The way we kill him is by detonating Corrupted Light, which seems to be some kind of big orb of Light that's being boiled in Darkness, like half-digested food (they do drop from Light Eater Ogres). So basically, Oryx Takes Light and then converts into Darkness, and tributes it to his worm, which grows more powerful. We tip the balance in the Light's favor by physically standing in the Corrupted Light and causing an explosive reaction. The orb shakes, rises and explodes in a brilliant flash as the Light is dispersed and the Darkness is purified. By stealing this Light from Oryx and blowing it up, he fails to tribute to his worm, and is consumed.

Oryx becomes an empty husk, like a chrysalis, and just floats off into space. It's scary to think about what was released when we killed him.
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>>180905962
Shenron is one word by the way.
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>>180905597
Has someone else posted stuff like this before? Who? This is my first time posting about it in this kind of detail.
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>>180906351
Bv900 is the resident lorefag
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>>180885883
kys
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>>180907131
Resident fuckboy maybe. There are several lorefags here, they just don't all namefag like that mentally ill faggot.
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>D2 strategy guides
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>>180910289
D1 had a strategy guide too and its like less than quarter the size of D2. What's your point?
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>>180911105
not him but I find strategy guides to be utter dogshit because they just ruin the experience of playing the game. What's the point of playing if you know what to do at every corner? Maybe some help here and there from a forum if you get stuck, but other than that, it should be you figuring it out (or if you got buddies to do shit with)
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>>180909393
>wanting to be cute is being mentally ill

Oh anon~
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>>180911591
BV passed out two hours ago
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>>180911591
Don't get me wrong, I'd still fuck your brains out.
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>>180911845
drin stop
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>>180912115
I'm sorry
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>>180911591
kys
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>flawless raider never
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>tfw insomnia and only getting 3 hours sleep
weekly cruc is doubles :(
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I WANT TO EAT ROAST DUCK AND DRINK BLACK COFFEE!!
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>get titan to 40
>heroic siva strikes
>specialist, exposure, airborne

wow do they just not want people playing destiny this week
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>maintenance soon
N-NANI?
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What spin off games would you want to see in the destiny universe?

>Eris stealth action game based off her time on the moon
>RTS where you play as Russia's Greatest Love Machine
>RPG ala the first Mass Effect where you help form the Iron Lords
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>>180921464
The only problem is Exposure and that's not even a problem. What the fuck do you mean?
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are we /back/?
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BUMPU~~
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>>180738856
>Forgetting the part where Bungie just straight gave them to everyone for free anyway in the end so you could make your long ass rant.
Fuck off.
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>>180885883
>>180805986
Why haven't you offed yourself yet?
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>>180925232
>detective game set in the Last City
>EA annual sports game about Shaxx teaching kids dodge ball
>interactive learning game for kids with warlocks teaching astrophysics
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are the servers still down
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>>180925232
Anything with Shaxx being involved heavily. Could be fucking cooking for all I care. I just want more Shaxx.
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>>180935225
>>180937256

Destinyball? You make teams of warlocks, hunters, and titans then try to get a ball in a goal. No guns, everyone uses melee. Shaxx is an unlockable bonus character, the triad gets a spot too, who else?
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>>180935221
Because that was exactly one year ago, relax and have some food it's too early to shitpost.
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>>180918504
do CE but the low light version and just run through it with some dudebros
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>>180918504
>he STILL hasn't done flawless 3 man vanilla CE

All it really takes is some good coordination and learning the glitches. It's two afternoons worth of time wasted doing it from complete scratch with total beginners.
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>>180937256
Sports manager game, where Shaxx has a train up a Crucible team to eventually win the big tournament against other tower characters' teams, especially that darned Saladin.

Cooking is Zvala's game...
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>>180936650
Still down for me (US East Coast)
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>>180938720
>>180942159
help
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D2 is going to be shit isn't it? No new subclasses?
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>>180944580
www.the100.io
look up CE normie mode
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>>180945794
There will probably be one in upcoming DLC, until then we can enjoy the revised original classes.
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>>180879669

PS4 or Xbone?
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>>180949220
ps4
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>>180949768

If we can get one more willing participant, I can easily make a temp clan and help you get your missing trophies.
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>>180911278
Then don't buy them. Problem solved.
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>>180933983
They didn't though???
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>>180933983
>Ignoring the part where they were then taken away a couple days later because it was a mistake so you can make your retarded response.
Fuck off.
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>>180950075
oh that would be kinda cool
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>>180951670

We'd have to wait like 3 and a half more hours (Knowing Bungie, likely more) though.
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>>180951773
Not that guy but I got my clan achievement in Y1 this way. Its a 5 minute wait after you get three people. That part is automated so you don't have to wait long.
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Are the servers still down?
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>>180952151

You got 3 and a half more hours, bruh. 4 PM PDT.
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>>180952151
four more hours bitchtits
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>>180951898

Yeah, I've helped a couple people in this way. The hard part is helping people navigate B.net, especially when telling them to set the clan as their clan.
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>>180956780
>Learn how to make a row of ribs not exist.

lol no.
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>TFW Destiny is so dead most people haven't even noticed its on a nine hour maintenance.
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how the fuck is it considered acceptable to take your servers offline for 9 hours?
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>>180962170
They're probably upgrading/modifying them for the D2 beta
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>>180962393
it seems highly unlikely they'd run a second game on the same servers.....unless they're fucking morons
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>>180962170
hownu.ru
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>>180962523
Oh boy everyone, take a break and gather around, scaffolding guy is gonna tell us all about server operation and infrastructure.
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http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/06/26/destiny-2-interview-with-luke-smith-shaping-the-world/#/slide/4
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>>180963662
>If the community doesn’t think that Claude, who’s the abilities lead, and Jill Scharr, who does a bunch of the writing for the abilities, and I didn’t sit around and laugh about actually naming the Arcstrider the Poledancer before we shipped it, then they just don’t know us very well.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180963662
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lets see them
https://raid.report
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>>180964051
Bungie's always been pretty good at being self-critical, and the most consistent criticism has been "hurr Destiny 1.5" so I'm sure they expected it.
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>45 minutes

Ugh
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>>180964448
>Bungie's always been pretty good at being self-critical
are you fucking kidding me?
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>>180967093
Well I didn't say they are perfect.
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>>180967093
He's right though.
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>>180964191
Will this even work with servers down
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>>180967263
>>180967284
To me Bungie seems just the opposite, they consistently come up with the most smug, evasive ways to deflect criticism and offer up navel-gazing half-measures for no apparent reason.
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>>180967696
Can you give some examples?
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>>180967696
>To me
The only two words in your post that mean anything.
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>>180962523
ship of Theseus
pretty sure they replace any server or set of servers that's not working as they need to, so it's not really the same servers
and why not anyway? the data load shouldn't be that different
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>>180967696
they always admit what the fucked up on eventually, it may take weeks or it may take years but they admit it
that may seem pretty ordinary or even sub-par but most companies don't do that, they just deny it or ignore it and move on
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You just know that Ghaul's counselor is gonna end up being Charlemagne. It's obvious. Warminds were "made to win". He saw that the only opportunity against the Darkness was a more powerful race than humankind using the light.
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>>180967760
>you'll throw money at the screen
>slow, overpriced DLC that only managed to fix the game's content problems after 3 years and ~$200 spent
>retarded bladedancer nerf that broke half the perks in the game? bullshit excuse about Valentine's Day of all things
>destroying all special weapons because people complained about one shotgun, then announce months later that this will be the final state of D1 PvP
>giving everyone two primaries because people didn't like getting one-shot
>removing grimoire because people wanted it in the game
>guided games instead of actual matchmaking
>nonstop deflection about no dedicated servers and 30fps
>confirmed you will not be allowed to recust imported guardians
>exo stranger had a satisfying arc
And that's just recently/off the top of my head.
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>>180969024
Luke Smith =/= bungie
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>>180969024
Forgot to mention insane philosophy of constant nerfing whittling the game away after three years.

>>180969123
He only said two of those things and he's the design director, I'd say there are very few people who represent the spirit of the company more than a design director given how much influence they have over the ultimate product.

Furthermore all those assholes at the D2 reveal came off as such. Like that lady yammering on about how great the Destiny community is BUT we can't do real matchmaking because of how bad the community is.
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>>180968782
>Charlemagne
That's a funny way to spell Rasputin. Charlemagne is our friend.
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>>180969024
>>you'll throw money at the screen
First of all, the dude has apologized for that profusely a dozen times over, and he really shouldn't have because it was a silly comment that the autistic community lost their shit over.
>>slow, overpriced DLC that only managed to fix the game's content problems after 3 years and ~$200 spent
This is subjective, yes the DLC wasn't as frequent as it should have been, but even bungie addmited they never expected people would continue playing this continuously instead of just taking breaks between updated.
>>retarded bladedancer nerf that broke half the perks in the game? bullshit excuse about Valentine's Day of all things
Oh look more subjective garbage.
>>destroying all special weapons because people complained about one shotgun, then announce months later that this will be the final state of D1 PvP
Wow, its like subjective is your middle name.
>>giving everyone two primaries because people didn't like getting one-shot
At a certain point your ass is going to have to start hurting from shitting out all these hot opinions.
>>removing grimoire because people wanted it in the game
I'm guessing by this point you're forgetting what the question was about and you just decided to make your own waaaaaaaa list.
>>guided games instead of actual matchmaking
Ability to opt into having randoms fill a slot instead of being forced to is bad?
>>nonstop deflection about no dedicated servers and 30fps
They've literally coherently explained dedicated servers and 30fps, there was no deflection and its a non-issue you should really re-read what the discussion is about.
>>confirmed you will not be allowed to recust imported guardians
Dude fucking seriously he's not asking for your bitch list go follow the discussion again.
>>exo stranger had a satisfying arc
Yeah this was bullshit and? How is it smug or deflective of them to say they felt they closed off her arc well? This is just more subjective garbage on your part.
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>>180969024
I agree with about half of what you mentioned, but they're still a self critical developer. They're still incompetent at best and simply retarded at worst, but they are good at second guessing themselves if you watch interviews and vidocs with Bungie people. They are very worried about people simply not caring about the game when they play it, or just get bored. Although, admittedly this mentality has faded since Bungie has grown so much, so it's not just the veteran developers making content anymore.

>giving everyone two primaries
I think this is going to be a positive change. Having two weapons that always have ammo is going to make gameplay a lot more diverse, and moving special weapons to the heavy slot is going to make bosses a lot less spongey. And of course, PvP will be more balanced.

>removing grimoire
This is a big deal to me too, but we don't know what they're replacing it with. There's apparently a "show lore" button, even. So it's too early to tell.

>guided games instead of actual matchmaking
If you wanted actual matchmaking for raids you're a goddamn retard. A clan based groupfinder is the perfect solution.
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>>180969778
this
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>>180969898
>>180969024
>removing grimoire because people wanted it in the game
>This is a big deal to me too, but we don't know what they're replacing it with. There's apparently a "show lore" button, even. So it's too early to tell.
The reveal and interviews all discuss the lore being involved through the people you meet and the places you go, as Destiny 1 should have been. The moment the lore was exclusive to bnet was the moment most of the playerbase gave zero shits about the story.
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>>180970198
You're not wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that the grimoire, despite being offsite, is some absolutely fantastic science fiction. It's so good that I want the people who wrote it to keep writing it. I like that the lore is in the game now too, but ideally we would keep getting these amazing, written TEXT stories and could read them in game.
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>server maintenance is now extended by two hours
Has Bungie ever heard of rolling server outages?
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>>180970469
They're still writing it you fucking moron, you're literally seeing that shit in game now instead of grimoire. It moved, it didn't disappear. How hard is this to understand for you retards?
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DESTINY MAINTENANCE EXTENDED BY 2 HOURS

https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/879835751545950210
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>>180970469
I wholeheartedly agree that the lore is astounding in many ways, but I do feel that them putting it in the game makes it so much easier to access but also to make people more interested.
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>>180970543
t. Christmas guardian.
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>>180970581
D2 Beta servers better be top notch
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Of course it fucking has
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>>180971038

I wish. This is Activision, it's the lowest bidder
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>>180969778
>they never expected people would continue playing this continuously instead of just taking breaks between updated
Reminds me:
>comparing Destiny to an MMO when it is favorable, but claiming Destiny is not an MMO when it is unfavorable

>>180969898
>If you wanted actual matchmaking for raids you're a goddamn retard. A clan based groupfinder is the perfect solution.
People PuG raids all the time, that's part of the reason external matchmaking sites are so popular. I think the number of people wanting to be guided will vastly outnumber the potential guides. Bungie should have just included matchmaking tools instead of trying to be clever. It might work out but I have my doubts.

>>180970198
The main reason I don't like the change is that no matter how many characters they put in the game it's simply not feasible to "show don't tell" a lot of the most fascinating grimoire entries, such as Books of Sorrow or pretty much anything that requires unique assets like those that show the Eliksni homeworld.

There's only so much they can "just put in the game", and that might be alright but it by nature can't be as varied and stylistic as the grimoire was.

>>180970567
Yeah I'm sure there'll be a Book of Sorrows CGI movie and Ikora will spend two hours walking you through Toland's journals the Sword Logic step by step. Fucking faggot.
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>>180970581
Gotta do what you gotta do.

>>180971038
They're reinstating queries with this maintenance, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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>>180970567
It's different though because it won't be in written form. Go ahead and tell me how you could effectively translate Ghost Fragment: Legends 2 into a cutscene, or Ghost Fragment: Darkness 3 into an NPC talking to you in game.
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>>180963662
>1300 hours in game
Shitter
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>>180971186
>Reminds me:
>>comparing Destiny to an MMO when it is favorable, but claiming Destiny is not an MMO when it is unfavorable

Except they didn't? They always said its not an MMO and stood by it. You're confusing that second part of your statement with the pre 2.0 interview where they said they felt the need to borrow some RPG mechanics like quest logs to improve systems that were lacking like storytelling. Your inability to comprehend what was said isn't on them, its on your autistic self.

>People PuG raids all the time, that's part of the reason external matchmaking sites are so popular.
And they fail all the time. Opinion discarded.


>Yeah I'm sure there'll be a Book of Sorrows CGI movie and Ikora will spend two hours walking you through Toland's journals the Sword Logic step by step. Fucking faggot.
>>180971334
>It's different though because it won't be in written form. Go ahead and tell me how you could effectively translate Ghost Fragment: Legends 2 into a cutscene, or Ghost Fragment: Darkness 3 into an NPC talking to you in game.
What is quest log you fucking retards. How do you know it won't be in written form? Listen up scaffolding guy, they literally said they're removing the grimoire because they put the lore into the game, they never once said it wouldn't be in text form or it would be only in dialogue form or it would be only in CG form. Please fix your ability to read and understand written language, please, you're crying over shit you literally put together in your head.
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>>180971675
>What is quest log you fucking retards.
opinion discarded
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>>180971186
>>180971334
>There's only so much they can "just put in the game", and that might be alright but it by nature can't be as varied and stylistic as the grimoire was.
Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Forgotten Realms, and many more lore intensive games got by fine with in game lore, Destiny never deserved the punishment of needing a 3rd party source for the only amount of story int he entire game for three years. While there is nothing wrong with it being in written form, which of course is obvious its going to have in game, you do not need a two hour long movie about hive origin.
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>>180971795
Not an argument.

Show me one video where they say there will be no text in the game.
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Whats the maintenance for?
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>>180972178
Maintening thing
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>>180969778
Retard
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>>180971801
>Mass Effect
Had an in-game Grimoire that was fully voiced (the codex).

>Elder Scrolls
The vast majority of its interesting lore is found in the demented ravings of Kirkbride and fan speculation, the rest is found in in-game books.

>Forgotten Realms
Has been a tabletop game since the 1980s with untold numbers of guides, gazetteers, atlases and novels charting every inch of the setting - outside the games.

I could see something like the ME codex but even that is a stretch. I can't really think of a single feature in the game that has that level of dedication put into it outside the core shootmans gameplay.

>>180972078
I'm sure there will be text in the game but I doubt it will be very much. I can't think of a single D1 quest with more than a paragraph, and even that is just am obligatory workhorse recap.
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>>180972486

>I don't know anything but my opinion matters more than the company's statement. Surely since there is no text in Destiny 1 where they opted to place the text on the site instead of into the game, there will be no text in Destiny 2 where they opted to place the text into the game instead of into the site.

Please tell me you're aware how retarded this sounds.
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>>180972875
>being illiterate
Please tell me you're aware how retarded this is.
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>>180972486
>I can't really think of a single feature in the game that has that level of dedication put into it outside the core shootmans gameplay.

You can't really think of a single feature?

In the game?

In Destiny 2?

You can't think of anything in Destiny 2?

You can't think of a single thing in a game that you've not played yet and will not see anything but couple minutes of raw gameplay until it comes out?

That game?

Because I sure as fuck hope you're not talking bout Destiny 1 since the entire point of Destiny 2 is that all this shit is getting torn down and built back from the ground up so I hope you're not dimwitted enough to judger D2 based on D1.

>>180973085
>I'm too stupid to come up with my own response so I'll just "no u"
Yeah, about what I expected from a retard that thinks lore can only come in text form if its on a website.
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>Destiny 1
>I wish the maps were bigger they're too small.
>I wish there was more to do its boring.
>I wish grimoire was in-game, its stupid having to go to the site.
>I wish I could get a fresh start its getting boring using the same shit all the time.
>I wish there was a cabal raid.
>I wish time to kill wasn't so short, I miss launch firefights.
>I wish primaries had elementals and elementals played a roll in crucible.
>I wish there wasn't so much heavy and special spam

>Destiny 2
>Waaa why are the maps so big, they'll probably be empty.
>Waaa Adventures and lost sectors sound stupid its just another grind.
>Waaa why is the grimoire in-game now, its stupid I can't go to the site.
>Waaa why are they deleting all the garbage I didn't feel like using any more.
>Waaa Why is it cabal raid can't they do something original.
>Waaa Why is time to kill so long, this is bullshit.
>Waaa why do primaries have elements and elements play a rolle in crucible.
>Waaa Why are specials and heavies curbed to prevent spamming.
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>be sad because no gf
>realize i can become the gf instead
>mfw
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>>180974982
People wanted a cabal raid? I fucking hate the cabal
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>>180976009
yeah okay jiro
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>>180969024
>you'll throw money at the screen
lukems gonna lukems
>slow, overpriced DLC that only managed to fix the game's content problems after 3 years and ~$200 spent
it took 1 year after release and less money, but you're basically right (I mean seriously it hasn't even been 3 years yet)
>retarded bladedancer nerf that broke half the perks in the game? bullshit excuse about Valentine's Day of all things
which nerf is that? Bladedancer still feels fine to me
>destroying all special weapons because people complained about one shotgun, then announce months later that this will be the final state of D1 PvP
people complained about shotguns more, but snipers have always been waiting in the wings to fucking ruin this game-- and occasionally they do, they ruined it often in vanilla
>giving everyone two primaries because people didn't like getting one-shot
fuck you I always wanted to run auto rifle/hand cannon
>removing grimoire because people wanted it in the game
that's not a bad thing, that's a good thing
>guided games instead of actual matchmaking
again, not a bad thing, matchmaking for raids would be Hell on Earth, this is a good middle ground
>nonstop deflection about no dedicated servers and 30fps
because they don't give a fuck, but if they say that then spec-checking e-peen strokers like you will piss and moan even more than you already are; dedicated servers would be nice but 30 FPS is literally no big deal as long as it's consistent
>confirmed you will not be allowed to recust imported guardians
what?
>exo stranger had a satisfying arc
you got me there
honestly I expected better reasons, there are better reasons out there, but you hampered your case with this weak shit
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>>180976079
how big is your clitty bbygirl
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>>180976079
>>180976009
There's no need for this
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degenerates
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>>180969024
>>giving everyone two primaries because people didn't like getting one-shot


This is how you recognize a Christmas babbi because this shit was always planned.
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>>180977164
balancing PvP and PvE together is the worst mistake Bungie keeps making
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>>180969024
>>giving everyone two primaries because people didn't like getting one-shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNdrJMwrkc

I didn't know people were complaining about getting one-shot before Destiny 1 was even revealed.
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>>180977265
Its fine, people just get too triggered when they take this shit too seriously.
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>>180977421
hi luke
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FYI, servers are back up
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>>180977774
post screenshot of you waving to banshee or else you're lying
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>>180977889
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>>180978042
can confirm https://twitter.com/BungieHelp
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>>180978705
>he wants aids and a blown out butthole so he has to wear diapers when he is an old man and dying
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>>180977164
>shitty gatling is the maximum dakka in D2
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>>180979132
>Entire legends written about the glorious Thundertouch and the witty Super Good Adzippy in Destin 1
>Destin 2 comes around
>Lol they never existad famalamama
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>>180979503
>See this image.
>Spontaneously remember the password I used for the throwaway account I made to make that screenshot.
>Try to Log in
>You need to reset your password
>Check email I made for that account
>848 "password reset" emails and some 300 "We prevented a suspicious login attempt" notifications, most stemming from singapore.


kek.
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>>180980774
we dont need to bring that up
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>>180980241
>lemoncobra
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>Playing warframe.
>Some shitter keeps dying.
>Mid-mission he proclaims "Fuck this! I'm going back to Destiny"
>Feel slightly interested.
>Check him out.
>He never played Destiny.

What was his endgame?
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>>180981207
Instead of dark souls its armored core
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>>180981502
Maybe he plays destiny on a diffrent console?
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>>180981595
Maybe, yet somehow, I doubt it.
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>>180891872
>That upper left moth

Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
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>>180758801
>>180765427
>>180766687
wew.
I think the only thing that saved me was the fact that I played solo...
...on the 360...
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>>180983236
Here you go anon!
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>>180983497
>>180758801
>>180766687
>>180765427
2015 was a bad year
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>Activision going to give another Destiny shader for preordering CoD WW2
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fuck off with this trannie avatarfagging tripfagging shit
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>>180985710
So? Blame bungie for taking it up the ass from microsoft for years, and to only get out of your contract to suck on activision's dick because of money.
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>>180985721
im not trains.
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>>180983236
use this as a base for something. it only took 15 seconds to find it
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>>180990000
ebin oc quadz
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>>180990000
nice quads
I want to fuck Anthem-chan too
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>>180990000
needs pink blushes on anthem-chan
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>>180990000
What is this Anthem meme? How is it anything like Destiny?
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honestly, I cant wait for d2 on pc
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>>180990427
>needs pink blushes on anthem-chan
Like so? I am a master at being a photoshop.
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>>180985972
someone post the trap one where the guy goes "lets argue about BOIPUCCI" and kazuto posting
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>>180990460
in the most shallow ways possible. it's >>180991140
that'll do
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>>180706910 >>180710697 >>180732391 >>180734761 >>180741212
>>180766231 >>180767950 >>180768357 >>180768848 >>180768887
>>180782159
>Still here days later.

>>180990000
>Deleted just because its quads.

I don't get it.
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>>180990593
i hope bungie can handle it
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>>180991627
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>>180992168
I mean I literally quoted just the shitposts, can you honestly tell me one of those posts doesn't deserve to be deleted?
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>>180992413
dude, report them and move on. pointing them out does nothing. reporting them does something about it.
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>>180992413
>shitposts
Fuck you I was reacting to something Destiny related.
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I watched this video and remembered all the good times I had in Destiny 1, and then I preordered Destiny 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNyMbmjOtW4

Then I watched this video, and then I canceled my preorder for Destiny 2. Bungie has removed every ounce of individuality they could from the game in order to cater to casuals. Sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRGqbr0o3fA
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>>180993127
They've been reported for days, but only retards announce reports. Which is all the more baffling its still there but the quadpost was taken out the second it was posted.

>>180993240
>Not "It was Destiny related"
>Rather "I responded to Destiny related"
wew cowboy.
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>>180993347
well, pretty soon you'll be able to give your guardian a gender identity of its choice and have rainbow armor and be lead around by strong female and strong male(female) quest givers. so. might as well weight you options now about how you are going to quit destiny.
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>>180993347
>react to Destiny related content with an anime reaction image
vs
>crying like a bitch about non destiny related shitposts
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, fuck off.
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>>180993693
you anime avatar and waifu are all trash and dont belong here get over it and yourself faggot
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>>180993683
You sure you quoted the right post there kiddo?

>>180993693
And what post was your do tell.
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>>180993247
>this game is great because a youtuber told me so
>actually this game is going to be shit, a youtuber told me so

Does it hurt to constantly be bending and influenced by what people tell you like a malleable faggot?
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>>180993918
Min was >>180782159, you shouldn't just assume it was a shitpost because it has an anime avatar. No one in dg uses destiny related reaction images.
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>>180994225
So shitty anime ahegao image with all caps "my fucking dick". Really? And you think you have the right to tell someone else ironic shitposting is still shitposting?

I think its time to neck yourself you shitposting faggot.
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>>180994702
>waaaa my post got deleted so let me bitch about every other non destiny related image in the thread waaa
off your pathetic self you fucking cunt
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>>180995243
Wasn't even my post, but I'm glad to see you're admitting I'm right by completely ignoring what I said just so you can continue your little bitch fit.

Here, have this abstract not angry reaction image I made for you so you can show how not angry you are.

Faggot.
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>>180994026
>projecting
You are most likely a follower yourself.

The first video only helped me remember that I loved the first game. I was excited so I started watching more videos. The second video just gave me the facts. They're removing individuality. I hate this because I hate being forced to be/act/think like everybody else. I hate it so much and I'm so disappointed by Bungie's decision I decided to make a post about it and respond to morons like you.
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>>180995682
>The second video just gave me the facts. They're removing individuality.

>literally titled "DOES BUNGIE THING WE ARE STUPID?"

Bro, not even the guy you're responding to, but if you think that clickbaity biased shit is fact free of individuality, you really need to seek guidance.
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>>180995943
Who gives a shit about it looking like click baitt. It delivered a simple fact - They have streamlined the skill "tree". You don't get to chose any more, i.e. individualization has been diminished.

/vg/ appears to be full of idiots.
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>>180996160
>Who gives a shit about it looking like click baitt.
You. You're the one that brought up the argument, are you seriously this fucking retarded?
>This video is facts free of individuality.
>Dude its biased as fuck
>W-who g-gives a s-shit

Are you the retard that made the video? Because you're getting incredibly defensive of that garbage.
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>>180996324
>Who gives a shit about it looking like click bait?
>You.
Actually no moron, you're the one who brought it up looking like click bait.

>Are you the retard that made the video?
No. I'm just pissed off that Destiny 2 is ruined for me now.
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>>180996160
>It delivered a simple fact - They have streamlined the skill "tree". You don't get to chose any more

>Literally same amount of grenade type choices.
>Literally same amount of Melee type choices
>Literally same amount of jump type choices
>Literally an entirely new skill type with its on set of choices
>Literally multiple choices for super modifiers AND we don't know if you gain more clusters through gameplay.

>You don't get to chose any more.

This is why you're being ridiculed and why the other anon said you're a malleable faggot that's constantly influenced by what people tell you.

You didn't even take a second to confirm if what you were told is true, you just accepted it and moved, now spewing that garbage at people who bothered to learn anything while you just soak up false info because some faggot on youtube told you so.
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>>180996546
>Nobody gives a shit.
>Literally still talking about it.

Nice life story faggot.
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>>180996589
they want you to focus on gear rather than which skills you spec into
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stop talking to yourself
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>>180996589
I don't usually post on /vg/.

...These replies I'm getting don't even make much sense. I don't think they're trolls either, because of the level of effort I see in the posts. If I were to take a guess, I'd say, knowing video games appeal to children, that I'm literally arguing with a group of 12 year olds right now. kek

I just came here to blow off some steam about my recent discoveries.
https://youtu.be/k9dLcGlpV9Y?list=PLbcyJSeTLtlwx6Gcja_yRlvUTHTC9apAV&t=389
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>>180997335
All the stat perks that were previously in the skill trees are now placed on characters' armor, and anyone can choose what armor they want to wear.

That's more "individuality" than was previously offered

And let's be fucking real here, Destiny's not that deep of an RPG shooter.
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>>180997335
You retards are aware that armors now have actual ability modifiers so you're not just building your shit with the skill tree... right?

Like, you know that, right?
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>>180993247
>Bungie has removed every ounce of individuality they could from the game in order to cater to casuals.
Wait, I'm sorry... I arrived late to this discussion.
I missed the part where Destiny was a hardcore game with an incredibly steep learning curve that didn't hold your hand while you busted your balls trying to get the the exact drop to complete your gear set that best min-maxes your build in order to obtain optimal performance in this extremely challenging game where your chances of success hinge on every decision you've made in spec'ing out your guardian???
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>>180997630
Seeing devs talking about how it's a good thing to have things dumbed down for players who don't know how to play is not a good sign. I can't believe that there is more, I am skeptical.

>>180998104
Who are you talking to? Nobody said what you just said.
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Its amazing how many self-titled hardcore gamers are crying about removal of choice when anyone that has played for more than a couple days knows destiny 1 only had one, MAYBE 2 builds that were worth any shit.

Yeah, not having more choices sucks, and mathematically there are less choices, but unless you're a complete retard that ran Solar Wind, Angel of Light, with Song of Flame and Sunburst, you know that you never really had any choice in D1.
I'd rather less choices that have real meaning than more choices that have none.

And I don't claim D2 choices will have meaning because just like the rest of you faggots, I don't actually know how they'll work out, we'll get a small Idea during Beta at best and won't know until we actually start playing with armor that has skill modifiers in final game.

But holy shit can you fuckers drop it, there were never choices in D1 99% of the time.
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>>180998301
>Seeing devs talking about how it's a good thing to have things dumbed down for players who don't know how to play is not a good sign.

Good thing that literally never happened then, huh?
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>>180998446
To people who didn't know anything all options were valid, and to people who liked being different just for the hell of it, it was at least an option. Now that's been removed.
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>>180998301
Destiny has always been casual.
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>>180998446
some people are gratified by tweakable stat customization, and losing it in any form is like saying "gun control" in a crowded bar in dallas.

i think the removal of the cooldown stats and moving stat management into a gear decision is neat, as it encourages you to not just keep only your toppest gear but enough to manage your stats to better effect. some gear will work really well with your preferred subclass and that'll be your goto. they just love to complain.
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>>180998578
>To people who didn't know anything all options were valid,
Validity isn't subjective, if a skill does nothing doesn't matter how ignorant a person is, it continues to do nothing.
> and to people who liked being different just for the hell of it,
That didn't make the skills any less useless.
>it was at least an option.
It was never an option, people looked at it and picked the same shit everyone else picked.
>Now that's been removed.
But they literally just put skill tree shit on armor???
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>>180998552
Yeah, good thing!
https://youtu.be/dRGqbr0o3fA?t=100

>>180998628
I'm well aware. And if 2 is any more casual, which very much seems it will be, I doubt I would find Destiny much fun anymore.
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>>180998819
You posted that video again. Why do you keep posting that video, fuck off your youtube name is cringy and nobody gives a fuck about your video.

Doesn't matter how many time you post your garbage, it won't change the fact they never said it, fuck off.
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>>180998446
>there were never choices in D1 99% of the time.
bullshit.
you had the choice of running Ghorn/Icebreaker or you chose to not find anyone to raid with pre-Taken King.
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>>180998980
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>>180998812
>if a skill does nothing doesn't matter how ignorant a person is, it continues to do nothing.
This sentence doesn't even make sense.
>That didn't make the skills any less useless.
Sure, but that wasn't even my point.
>It was never an option, people looked at it and picked the same shit everyone else picked.
I'm not a herd follower like you. I don't pick things because everybody else says to. If it's a decent build I'll go with it.
>they literally just put skill tree shit on armor
Maybe it'll work out, but I doubt it.
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>>180998942
I posted it because it was claimed that the devs do not believe it is a good thing to dumb things down. Just making a complete ass of whoever made the claim is all I was doing.
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>>180999145
>This sentence doesn't even make sense.
So you have no reading comprehension, might as well end it here then, come back when you learn English, we can continue this discussion.
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>>180999145
>If it's a decent build I'll go with it.
So you went with the herd because useless abilities provide no decent build variation
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>>180999280
plz learn english

>>180999294
Actually no, I just said I didn't. I made my own choices based on what was available. I d
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>>180999274
Whatever you were trying to do doesn't matter, your video is garbage and this point still stands >>180998552
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>>180999145
>I'm not a herd follower like you. I don't pick things because everybody else says to. I follow the herd.

>Telling others to to learn english.

Is this nigga for real?
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>>180999381
>your video is garbage
It's seriously not my video though lol. Seriously. And, no it doesn't stand at all actually, because of what was clearly shown in the video. lmao holy shit this place it stupid
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>>180999378
Name me a single scenario in which Solar Wind is useful, and what other abilities it synergizes with
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>>180999497
>It's seriously not my video though lol. Seriously.
That why you keep posting it? Fuck off Darkside Royalty Lore

>And, no it doesn't stand at all actually, because of what was clearly shown in the video.

>They literally never said it.
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>>180999497
you have only just scratched the surface
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>>180999654
Can you stop responding to yourself? Also what the fuck is up with the trip? Some literally who April noobie faggot wants to tripfag. Jesus where the fuck does this garbage come from?
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>>180999654
I believe you.

>>180999726
I'm not Darkside Royalty Lore and I'm not lemoncobra either. lol
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>>180999875
Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
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>>180999875
>>180999978
fucked up if true


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also >>180999875
I am sorry for the retardation of the anons here. For the record your skepticism is very healthy and worth more discussion that this gen can typically give. I haven't been following but there is a clear difference between tweaking/creating mechanics to dumbing down the game. It's sort of the dominant strategy they have to appeal to a wide casual audience.

I used to play GW1 competitively and the game had a massively high skill cieling while not having high barriers to PvP. I don't think Destiny couldn't be any dumber so it'll be interesting to see if you're right.
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>see Bungie update on facebook
>see people posting legit criticisms of the game series
>see people responding with FUCK YOU, YOU ARE TOXIC AND SPOILED BUNGIE OWES YOU NOTHING
>click their profile
>they are a teenager and/or work at McDonalds
every time
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>>180999726
>not knowing who lemon is
you are the newfag
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>>181000574
>Going to facebook.

Shit nigga, you fucked up.
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>>181000628
>>181000393
>He keeps posting.

You're trying too hard scaffolding guy.
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>>181000574
whats facebook
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I do not understand what Bungie means when they say that D2's engine changes was needed to be able to modify the performance of weapons completely individually instead of as an entire class. This is related to all the complaints about Bungie screwing over entire classes of weapons just because one single exotic is being overpowered in PvP or somesuch.

Is Destiny not a looter shooter that advertised its 99% handcrafted arsenal that doesn't use the archetypical random gun generator full of disjointed parts? Why then did they not write the engine to handle each weapon as a completely independent data entity that doesn't use so many global weapon-class variables? This isn't the same thing as sharing graphical assets which are harder to replace; it is quite literally spreadsheet manipulation, so having an intern go through each and every row for a weapon class and enter in the planned number nerfs or buffs by hand wouldn't take more than 10 minutes. Certainly worth the effort compared to the problems caused by making weapon classes use a lot of shared stats / upgrade nodes just so that one could make changes within a single minute instead.

At least it is fixed now, but a terrible floppy excuse for terrible sloppy design.
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>>181000778
oh is scaffolding guy this aspie diaper boy who gets angry at everyone for not understanding his secret simplified version of english where everything means exactly what he wants it to?
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>>180998819
Why does this faggot try to sound exactly like Datto to the point where he copies his fucking cadence?
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>>181000870
>I do not understand what Bungie means when they say that D2's engine changes was needed to be able to modify the performance of weapons completely individually instead of as an entire class. This is related to all the complaints about Bungie screwing over entire classes of weapons just because one single exotic is being overpowered in PvP or somesuch.


In destiny 1, only exotics had individual fires, all the weapons in the same archetype used a single file to determine all their stats. So if a weapon was overperforming you had to nerf the entire achetype because you needed to nerf that one file that all weapons within the archetype relied on. Weapons were also random rolls on abilities from the same pool, so they couldn't do shit but nerf an entire weapon class if a god roll was too OP.

In D2, every weapon is its own individual file, even within the same archetype, so if a weapon is overperforming, they can just tweak that one specific weapon.

>Is Destiny not a looter shooter that advertised its 99% handcrafted arsenal that doesn't use the archetypical random gun generator full of disjointed parts?

Its not, and it never claimed to be, its literally a looter shooter with RNG loot.

>Why then did they not write the engine to handle each weapon as a completely independent data entity that doesn't use so many global weapon-class variables?

Because they wanted it to be a looter shooter with RNG loot. without taking into consideration how broken OP shit can get if you don't set rules on it.

>This isn't the same thing as sharing graphical assets which are harder to replace
It is when all guns share the same number assets which are harder to replace.

> it is quite literally spreadsheet manipulation,
Except its literally not a spreadsheet. That is the problem.

>At least it is fixed now, but a terrible floppy excuse for terrible sloppy design.
Not to say the system wasn't bullshit, but you severely overestimate your knowledge of game programming.
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>>180995682
>second video
>facts

Some retard sperging out over a change we don't know the full extent of isn't facts. The subclass changes remove customization for the sake of balance. It just depends on which you value more.
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>>181000870
>>181001509
If programming games was always flawless there'd never be bad games. I once worked on an indie team where the programmer literally wrote the entire loot drop statement as if-then statements.

Like no joking, he literally had a random number generator followed by 1600 lines of


if (Droproll = 000) {
Lootitem.drop("Light Potion");
}
else if (Droproll = 001) {
Lootitem.drop("Medium Potion");
}
else if (Droproll = 002){
Lootitem.drop("Heavy Potion");
}
else if (Droproll = 003){
Lootitem.drop("Mana Light Potion");
}
etc...

Wasn't saying Light potion, etc.. it was using item IDs, at least he had enough braincells for that, but I'm sure you can understand how retarded that is. At one point he had to go back through the entire thing line by line and check what each item is because he accidentally put one of the debug invincibility items in there and he wrote the item tables in a ridiculously retarded fashion and he couldn't tell which item ID was for that specific item.

I'm just saying. You should expect someone to be smart just because they're a programmer. Most of the time programmers are more concerned with how to make it easier for themselves to write it, than how to make it easier to manage the code once its complete. And writing a single archetype file instead of hundreds of files for each possible roll of each possible weapon just seems so much easier, they probably didn't even consider the possibility of needing to nerf a specific piece before that.
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>>181001509
>Except its literally not a spreadsheet. That is the problem.
It IS spreadsheet type of work and the problem here is that Destiny did NOT make it a spreadsheet problem according to your explanation of how they structured their weapon data.

Well, you can either put all the weapon stats in a spreadsheet and load it from there or define them in individual files (actually like most easily moddable games...), but editing both is a similar kind of work. Entering in the changes to a bunch of different files can be a serious pain in the ass and I know it from trying my hand at balance mods for STALKER and Far Cry 2/3, but half the trouble was figuring out what variables did what. After understanding the file systems any changes I wanted to make were easy to figure out on my own spreadsheets and transfer them over to the files. For the actual developers this isn't even a problem.

Putting the core stats and behavior scripts of an entire archetype into one file is the exact bad design I'm talking about. A few things can be made global but most of these things should have been split out to their respective weapons or at least subgroups of weapons. That way most things can be modified without affecting others.

Like I said, they seem to have done exactly this for Destiny 2 so clearly it is a fucking problem that they realized existed and rectified, and you're for some reason defending their bad initial decision for D1 as being "hurr gaem programmin hurder than u tink". No, it's not.
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>>181001829
Don't respond to him, I'm sorry for his imbecilic behavior he seems to be dead set on spamming his shitty video on here for extra views.

>It IS spreadsheet type of work and the problem here is that Destiny did NOT make it a spreadsheet problem according to your explanation of how they structured their weapon data.

Dude that's literally what the fuck I said, its not a spreadsheet. We're not discussing how it should be done, we're discussing how Bungie did it. And they didn't do a spreadsheet so not a spreadsheet.
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>>181003358
That second part was meant for. >>181003263
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>>181003263
>Its a some retard that did a shitty mod for a shitty game thinks he is an expert on programming.

I hate reruns.
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>>181003263
>Like I said, they seem to have done exactly this for Destiny 2 so clearly it is a fucking problem that they realized existed and rectified, and you're for some reason defending their bad initial decision for D1 as being "hurr gaem programmin hurder than u tink". No, it's not.
Just because you took offense doesn't mean I was defending it, but it does show I hit the nail on the head.
I wasn't defending them, if you think that maybe you should re-read my post, I was explaining to you what they did, I literally called their system bullshit but because I tiriggered your leet programmer spirit I guess its defending them. Good job proving me wrong that you overestimate your knowledge by telling me your vast experience of writing a fucking mod for stalker.
Can you get your head out of your ass for two seconds here? It isn't a fucking spreadsheet you moron, they literally did not use a spreadsheet. How fucking hard is this for you to understand?
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>>181003263
You're cute when you're mad.
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>>181003263
>I know it from trying my hand at balance mods for STALKER
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feel like i'm sucking less at crucible. grinding out bounties and whatever, come ruin my k/d you slobs
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>>181003815
You admitted the system was bullshit but then flipped over to insulting me because I called it a bad decision, and the only way to interpret that is you think the design chosen by Bungie was possibly due to constraints which prevented them from doing an alternative (simple spreadsheets) easily. And I am here to tell you that you are dumb and that this isn't even a PROGRAMMING problem but a data organization and design problem which they should have seen coming from the drawing board. Maybe they were too damned busy from overhauling the game when the whole story was thrown out.

I speak of modding for those two games because the file system you described sounds similar to those games, STALKER in particular. Unique weapons often had their own definition files or were placed into the base weapon file as their own sections which overrode stats of the original whenever present. So in your description it sounds like Exotic definitions base themselves on the archetype and then overwrite some parts with their own. A reasonable way to do it, but then when a unique mechanic of an Exotic inadvertently synergizes with some global archetype weapon property it can lead to an entire class of weapons getting nerfed because they have no easy way of separating out the global property at this point.

My point is that if they organized their weapon data in a more isolated manner then this would have never become a problem. More redundant stats and numbers but the tradeoff is merely doing a few more minutes of grunt work when it comes to implementing a change. If keeping several hundred different files was going to be an unacceptable problem, THEN KEEP THE MOST LIKELY TO CHANGE STATS IN A SPREADSHEET and read it from there!

I sincerely hope you aren't the author of the other posts because you are so mad someone is calling you stupid that you have to samefag just to protect your ego. Your friend being completely retarded on coding drop rolls is irrelevant to this discussion.
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>>181007007
>You admitted the system was bullshit but then flipped over to insulting me.
The only thing even remotely insulting in the entire post was saying you overestimate your knowledge of programming, mister stalker mod, you're the one that unloaded because it triggered you. Just because you get buttblasted by the truth doesn't mean I was insulting you, I meant you overestimate your knowledge of programming as in you seem to think everyone only uses optimal method, but then you proved to me that you know fuck all but going on about your vast knowledge of a fucking stalker mod.

Maybe you could do like I said and get your head out of your ass?

Fucking script kiddies, I swear to fuck you're the worst garbage on this planet.
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>>181007007 see >>181002524 Also >>181007381 You really should get over yourself, doing a mod for stalker doesn't make you either an expert or knowledgeable.
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>>181007007
rhetorical volume doesn't make you right. it just makes you exasperating.
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I guess now that scaffolding guy has fucked off, stalker mod guy has decided to take up the title of resident knowitall retard.
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>>181007771
Fuck off, I once made a stalker mod.
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>>181007898
make a few more, warren specter
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>>181008459
I can't, I'm too busy trying to teach everyone how programming works based off the knowledge I gained balancing a stalker mod.
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>>181009448
>we was stalker mods an shit
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>>181010412
Shit, the guy that posts with the scaffolding guy trip needs to start adding into his posts that he was a stalker mod.
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>>181007007
>I speak of modding for those two games because the file system you described sounds similar to those games, STALKER in particular.
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I am concerned that if they are keeping the same grenades for subclasses, they will still all be trash

Like pulse grenade
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Also most of the armor and weapons they've shown look ugly
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>>181012824
>>181013025
Don't worry about it, it will be fine. I know because I made a mod for stalker once.
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>>181013181
Spamming this shit just shows everyone you're as autistic as he is.
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>>181013641
Its subtle. I like it. If you refer to yourself in third person and call yourself autistic, surely we'll think its a third person criticizing you.

Of the three people currently active two think you're a joke though, you really shouldn't samefag in an inactive thread. Trust me, I made a stalker mod once, I know these things.
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>>181007381
Again with the same thing about it being somehow a programming problem and somehow it is a problem so complex that they needed three years to figure it out. I'm just going to assume you're a Bungie PR intern at this point earning his credits (or worse, someone who does it for free) because there's no explanation for the sheer stupidity going on at this moment.

Just let me know from the start next time so I don't waste my time on people who are claim to know better, to also know that I don't know better, yet somehow manage to say absolutely NOTHING substantial in your post beyond what boils down to "Bungie probably knew best". You have only shown that you know NOTHING about the subject at hand and do NOTHING except to deflect and cover for Bungie's mistakes, despite them having admitted to it and modified their data file management to cover this exact problem, likely in one of the two possible methods I've outlined above.

So I don't know man. Bungie just said they modified their handling of weapon data so that they can now handle editing weapons on a case-by-case basis. I raised the complaint about why they didn't do this in the first place and listed out methods that they could have used or are using right now to accomplish this. And then you raise a stink about how I don't know what kind of epic problems they must have faced in not doing this in the first iteration of Destiny.

Newsflash: Programmers like me who do modding as a hobby aren't exactly enacting magic rituals to get programs to work on your PC. The product design is clearly at fault here, even a forklift operator can see it even if that person doesn't understand exactly how it is done. Make storage crates as BOXES and not spheres, you see, because spheres don't stack well together even if you have no idea how the factory makes the crates.

I want you to ask yourself who's the asinine little shit in this conversation and reevaluate your life choices.
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>>181015623
>He's still at it.

Drop it stalker mod guy, you're not shit. You've literally spent shit arguing against shit nobody said, getting pissy over insults nobody made, using any chance you get to remind everyone you're a programmer. Cool your fucking jets script kiddie, you're not unique, and the more you talk the more you seem like a retard.
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Flawless raid run?
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>>181018381
Nah, I - uhh, I'm good.
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>>181018730
Niggers always loading in before everyones in, wanting to do checkpoints. I thought it would come naturally.
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>>181019351
Dude what? Fucking no, You cannot have people entering or leaving during your run, that's an instand disqualify.
The people you start with have to be the same ones through the whole thing and nobody can die ever.
Someone entering or leaving counts as someone dying.

Start the raid with an invite only party.
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>When you're too sleepy and you post your shit on the wrong board.
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>>181020832
why do people do this "lmao, im looking to another direction after something weird happened lol" shit. Its cringy as fuck.
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>>181022205
>cringy
There's that word again.
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>>181022205
Do you mean the point where I looked if there was something to shoot at center lane and then centered on my teammate? Why is that cringy? Do you have a brain defect?
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>>181022401
>le ebin reddit maymay

>>181022542
and you just randomly decided to slowly look back at where the weird thing happened? Yeah, no. Fuck off you underage shit.
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>>181023138
>randomly decided
>slowly look back
>at where the wierd thing happened

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. like I said I looked down center lane and then looked back at my teammate, looking at the video I don't know what you're talking about "slowly loooking at where the weird thing happened" You have to be blind not to see my teammate is floating right there at the center of the screen dude. Are you okay?
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>>181022205
Why do people do this? "lmao, im triggered by shit other people do so let me scream cringe like fucking moron lol" shit. Its pathetic as fuck.
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>>181023138
>>181019351
Suicide.
Watch.
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>>181025749
Rude.
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>>181019847
That's what I mean with the hundreds of raids I've done it should've happened by now but people joining after you've loaded in etc reduces the pool of raids that may've qualified for the trophy.
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>>181027084
>people joining to carry your shitter ass
FTFY
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>>181023138
>>181025749
>>181027232
>When the stalker mod shitter is so BTFO that he has to change his shtick.
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>>181027447
lmao im not that autist
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Anyone here got a good quality screenshots of Exo-females? ( i didnt play the first ne destiny but pre order the 2nd one)
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Which dead member of /dg/ do you wish was still here/hope will come back for D2 and why?
>pic related
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>>181030519
I want to play with the Canadian God Aziz.
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>>180719154
are you me?
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Why pay for anything "Deluxe"?
I made the mistake just once when RoI came out and there was an incentive to level up faster and for some Suros shit that never got to see the light of day because players just use newer and cooler looking stuff.
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>>181032343
I am not paying 10 quid for a sword, an emote and emblem.
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>>181030519
Alpha team
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my warframe is strong
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Warframe is releasing it's 33rd frame soon.

Why are you playing destiny?
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>>181032343
>tfw the physical "deluxe" edition is 20 bucks cheaper than the digital one in my country
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>>181035970
you should be asking yourself why you even came here. Warframe is utter ass
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>>181032343
Because I have the extra $10, and I'm already spending $90.
Might as well make it an even $100 and get some neat "exclusive" shit they will probably give to everyone at some point earlier.
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>>181022205
who pissed in your cornflakes this morning, good god

you picked probably the most inconsequential thing in the world to fly off the handle at
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>>181030519
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