/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

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>>180673678
First for Zelevas.

>>180673678
Thanks for the OP, OP. You might want to advertise it as a new thread next time tho.

where's spiderman?

>>180674121
Banned probably

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>>180674008
You've signed up for the military already, right anon?
There's a future out there in the stars that the Empire must grasp.

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>>180674008
>not posting Buff Zelevas

>>180674317
>He will never be your glorious leader
>tfw stuck with overwieght men, cucks, and women
feels bad man

>>180674305
I can't wait to make new patriots out of new peoples!

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Please do not bully the Riftborn.

>>180673678
Sophons would suck your dick if you asked them.

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Memes aside - I think UE quest is really well written. It just feels right as it progresses. Especially the coronation twists.

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>>180674121
Still here. Left earlier to do grocery shopping, came back to see my thread deleted and replaced by another one.
At least that one has tags, so I'm not going to bother asking.

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>>180675084
>deleted
Serves you right.

>>180674897
*bullies*

>>180675084
You posted your thread 50 posts early.

>>180675084
Because you made like an R&I.

>>180675360
>R&I.
You really shouldn't summon evil spirits anon.

>>180675465
Depends, do these spirits share any of the empire's interests?

>>180673056
So I was going to pick between the Vod and the Riftborn, but an entire colony of people trying to make their living in what is effectively their nightmare realm is metal as fuck and too hard to pass up.

>>180675906
Its more than just their nightmare realm anon.
A nightmare is based off of things that are familiar to you, concepts.
There's barely anything in the endless universe that the Riftborn can even relate to from their own.

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>>180674979

>vods leech planet in cold war
>attack the leecher
>wow how dare you attack us in cold war

>>180676903
Welcome to politics. Not only everyone's a bastrad, they are hypocrites pretending that they are utterly innocent.

>>180676903
Technically, that's a civilian ship you attacked

>>180675292
>50 early
He should kill himself

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So this 100% confirms that the ship from the quest victory explodes after take off right?

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>ally has been sieging a minor race's system for like 20 turns
>assimilate the system and gift it to them
>"we didn't actually want that system lol"

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HAK HAK HAK

Recommended faction to start with in Endless Space 2?

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>ES2
>spend decades sieging a system
>finally capture it
>have to wait another 15 turns to raze it

>>180679669
UE

>>180679669
Unfallen have lots of food/approval so it's easier to get a good start.

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Cutting it a bit close there guys.

>>180676748
Why would an alien AI use 20th to 21st century north american symbolism for it's security/police robots sent to an other alien planet?

>>180680934
Because blue and red flashing lights are easily noticeable, thus making them ideal for identification?

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Should I even bother oppressing them?
Also, new player, pls gib pointers

>>180681442
woah

europeans only mod please

>>180681442
>xeno freedom movement
>led by a female gibs

pottery

>>180681442
Find the six offenders and enslave them, no more shitty happiness faction.

>>180681442
I like you have 10%+ of everything except spiritualist

Supressing a faction is a waste of time unless you're trying to change your government's ethics, remove the root cause of the faction existing in the first place and they'll die out on their own.

>>180681442
colonize up to your core limit, you shouldn't sector if you're below it

>>180681442
>Recent Uplift
should just be if you've uplifted at all imo.
Maybe an additional condition so you need to have uplifted and kept the pops in your empire.

Perhaps in degrees like lasting peace for isolationists or non aggression pacts.

So 1 Uplift: +2.5% happiness
2 Uplifts: another +2.5% happiness
3 Uplifts: 5% happiness

maybe it doesn't fit for a general xenophile faction though, seems more like a Xenophile+Authoritarian kinda a thing

>>180679756
>not getting both of the approval military laws and having like 16 systems

>>180679756
Just play Unfallen. They instantly raze and genocide entire systems if they conquer it and have no possible vine connection to it.

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vodyani heroes are balanced, guys

>>180682393
>not using benthic gems for all three of your system modernization levels so you get more approval the more planets you have

>Struggling with Vodyani.
>Main hero reaches level 12.
>Suddenly massive resource gains.
>The influence radius of the Ark my hero's stationed on is expanding like a blob of galactic proportions.
Ok this is fine.

>>180682564
I want to know who at Amplitude thought that a double-stacking bonus was a good idea.

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>>180681670
>>180681709
k thanks
>>180681883
will do but it's a massive headhache

Any general tips for this situation overall? Right now I'm just doing nothing and waiting on research, building up my army and seeing what will happen once I advance in tech 3 primitives.
>Midari death bringers are hostile to everyone and at war with the Oravadox Leage
>My military power is about the same as theirs
>those purple guys next to my empire, I've gone to war with them previously and they seem weak enough that I might remove them over time
>Tuxkan is chill
>red guys sacrosant are more powerful than me in fleet size iirc
>that cyan elder empire doesn't want me to have their gaia worlds, can't annex
>also there's some dimensional horro in my borders that the curators say I might be able to beat

Can hiveminds spawn without you making them

>>180682789
>will do but it's a massive headhache
I haven't done this, but it seems reasonable: >>180638970

>>180683054
Yes

>>180682789

Anon. Supress xenophobic and endorse militarist. PLace at least 5 defensive armies in every xeno planet and one decent assault on stand by.

Xenophobic slavery sucks. You really want caste which makes xenophobe obsolete. Also your fleet is crap.

>>180682789
>also there's some dimensional horro in my borders that the curators say I might be able to beat
With 20-25k fleet power, "might" is the important word. Get 30k-35k and make sure your fleet drops right on top of the horror. It's one of the nastiest things in the galaxy. You'll still take casualties because the horror just deletes ships on sight and it can see the whole system. Thankfully it's not one of the mobile monsters.

Don't go over 39k fleet strength because that might wake up the fallen empire and who knows what they might do.

>>180683296

Also reform the government to imperial authority once the nigger gets out so you gain attraction to authoritarian.

>>180682789
How many worlds and how many pops do you have?

Show to me your leaders.


Build up to your Naval Capacity.

Do you have any empire uniques that you can build on earth? Maybe a tech that you finished that you forgot about? because I totally did not forget to build the Research Initiative when I got it in my game

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BALANCE

>>180683054
I had two randomly generated hiveminds that spawned next to each other. Huge 1000 star galaxy, 30 empires, 4 fallen empires, 6 advanced empires, 0.25 habitable planet modifier, aggressive AI.

Was an interesting game.

>>180683445

Hes probably enslaving every xeno working at research or energy production. He needs to free them and eat the malus so he can benefit from authoritarian slavery. In other words he needs their rights to be set to caste system (residence). It will cause a stir, therefore he needs armies on the ground to shut them up.

I think I might go for a more war focused game in stellaris, and use sectors for rp reasons.

>Conquer a species, say Gargaxton
>Put all Gargaxton planets in its own sector

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It doesn't really feel fair that the rest of the alliance gets a victory too when I built all 6 of the pillars.

>>180683296

Correction: switch xenophobe for militarist, or adopt fanatic authoritarian after reforming the government.

>>180683658
I've always done that because fuck dealing with war aftermath.

>>180683658
I already do that, capture an entire empire. Nerve staple everyone. sectorize

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Does anyone here have this achievement?

>>180683745
Leave the alliance

>>180684210
Bit late for that now

what mods should I download to make stellaris weapon balance not shit?

>>180684316
Endless space 2

>>180684316
The 'Uninstall' or 'Refund' mod. Either will do

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>>180683628
I'm not enslaving any xenos, unless you count the robots
and I kicked out the guys I conquered from their planet, was full of another species they had conquered and I gave them residence rights

>>180683296
>>180683752
How do I switch those?

>pic, too many to fit in one screen
27 planets, 322 pops, if I really wanted to I could step it up by doing aggressive terraforming, somehow I made it super cheap for myself (the ascension perk and stuff)

Also I have 2 tiny vassals. They don't do much but they're cool I guess

>>180684415
ES2's weapon balance is just as bad

>>180684498
Your yields seem a bit low with all those posp
Are your buildings upgraded?


your low on influence so might not be an option, but I'd get replace your Roamer and Archaeologist scientists.

>>180684498

Are you sure that species on residence is not in chains? If not remain as you are.

>>180682789
That button below just above the tabs. Careful. You said you kicked one race and remained with another one. If theres to few of them just remain as you are. I was assuming you were in control of a significative number of xenos and thats when authoritarian slavery (called caste) starts to be useful because the normal one from xenophobic just enslaves everyone which means the ones at energy tiles will produce less 33% and research will have a 75% penalty if they are in chains. When you release them though theres a temporary malus that makes them mad but it eventually disappears over time.

Remain as you are. You have at least droids or synths already anyway....

Does Zevelas actually go through with abdicating in any of the choices?

>>180684207
not yet because i already played through like half the factions back in early access when the achievements weren't added yet

>>180685876
Did they not add achievements till 1.0?

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>>180685978
bingo

>>180686030
Ahh, bit of a shame.

>>180685573
I'm pretty sure no matter what happens he ends up getting eternal youth in the epilogue

>>180686578
Emperor Zevelas grand nephew Zevales becomes emperor

ded

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It's turn 30 and this guy slaps your clay's ass. What do you do?

>>180690263
I instantly die.

>>180691038
/10

how to use slavery effectively in stellaris

>>180691242
you don't

>>180690263
At least in Civ V you had a chance against a turn 100 Zulu invasion. How do you stop this guy if he spawns next to you and decides he doesn't like you?

>>180691626
you don't

>>180691626
convince him to be your fwb

>>180691626
play as Trudeau and win

>>180691626
>>180690263
have they not made him any less ridiculous since launch? haven't played since then

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>making me search for the general in the catalog

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Is this a good idea?
I don't like sacrificing combat performance for siege power and these things have literally nothing but support slots.

>>180693476
It's an awful idea.

Do it.

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>>180693558
Already been doing it.
It actually works decently, and they're cheap. Not that pricing is an issue with vodyani hero abilities though.
Three of them do 186 siege damage a turn.

Anyone know how anomaly spawning works?

If someone else has surveyed the system, can you still find anomalies?
Can you only find anomalies in the system if it isn't within their borders?

>>180693746
Can you slap the fleet movement speed things on leechers?

>>180693476
wait is that a titanium leecher

>>180693931
Nope, shit like fleet movement and flotilla shield are restricted to coordinators, probably exactly for this reason.

>>180693992
The siege modules cost titanium.

>>180693871
Tested for a bit.
Seemed like I couldn't find anomalies within foreign empires.

Then I tried systems that I hadn't surveyed, but were in my empire, like my borders had pushed into a fallen empire, there I found anomalies pretty quick.

Also console integrated another empire and started surveying within that empire and I found anomalies.

>>180694121
no dude I mean the titanium leeching module

>>180694317
Oh, that's just an upgrade from basic.
There are three tiers of drainers that increase your essence income with them. You get them from the science tree.
In addition they all cost exactly the same industry and none of them cost any strategic resources.
My current fleet of T2 leechers at 10 CP drains 1500 essence a turn.
You can imagine what that does to enemy systems.

>>180695563
The original Dawn of War games are a really good RTS.

Dark Crusade>Soulstorm, but I recommended getting them all so you can play the campaigns.

>>180695563
supreme commander 1, supreme commander 2 if you really want more, and planetary annihilation: titans

>Stellaris
>hive mind have a '-20% consumer goods cost' civic available
>hive minds have the cheapest living standards anyway, giving the least possible benefit out of any race

What was paradox thinking?????

>>180696253
>Paradox
>Thinking

Pick one. This is Paradox quality design right here

>>180696225
I'd sooner recommend DoWIII than PA.
Its nice for a bit but gets stale REAL fast.

>>180696709
i probably shouldn't recommend it because it's a huge ram hog and can actually crash someone's computer

>odd
Buy Civ 6
>even
Buy ES2
>0
Buy all CK2's DLC that I still dont have

>>180697239
Hah. better luck next time goy.

Does Rise of Nations count as an RTS or 4x? It seems to have strong elements of both but idk

Anyone know if there are any mods about Sol III?

I feel like it could be fun to mod in more scenarios you can find Sol III in.


fuck I should mod in Arcanus from MoM

>>180697537
not 4x

are any of the DLC for Endless legend necessary?
there is this Legends and Guardians thing I dont understand

>>180697583
>Sol III
If you're talking about Stellaris, I've worked on a mod that would generate 2-3 extra random human based empires (from the other colony ships), along with guarantee that Commonwealth of Man would spawn near Sol and a scripted pirate/mercenary storyline from the failed colony ships.

>>180690263
I give him my ass too

>>180698532
>along with guarantee that Commonwealth of Man would spawn near Sol
That's cool
>and a scripted pirate/mercenary storyline from the failed colony ships.
and that

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Whats the most brutal faction for snowballing starting with an early rush in stellaris? The absolute OP min/max?

>>180699265
>early rush
>stellaris

>>180699265
fanatical purifiers with
fan xenophobe/militarist
nationalistic zeal, mining guilds
industrious, strong, and whatever other traits you want

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>>180700291
>strong

>>180700291

Dont fanatic purifiers start to suck after the first takeover since they are forced to purge and you are left with fucking nothing from what you grabbed?

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>>180700415
for you

>>180700741
no, genemod rapid breeders maybe.
>keeping inferior aliens for anything but food

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>tfw you discover a relic in a village early game
No better feeling in Civ 6.

>>180681442
>not modding black people out of their 23rd century space game

>>180701978
>Aussies
>controlling animals at all
>having laws

>>180702839
kangaroo cavalry

>Struggling with Vodyani early game.
>Get hero to level 12.
>Suddenly my development skyrockets and nothing can keep up with me.
>End of game through two victories (Science and Wonder) check stats.
>The next highest hero level is 15
>Mine is 33.
Please tell me they're aware of how horribly broken the trait is.
Amplitude's never been the best at balancing but this is too much, its like critical mass with broken lords only somehow even more abusive.

>>180705203
I'm pretty sure they know.

Is Age of Wonders any good? It looks a bit like another shallow Civ clone to me.

>>180703118
just imagine if whites had been in australia as long as the abos, kangaroo cavalry would be real

>>180705886
If white people had been in Australia for forty thousand years they'd be black.

>>180705783
>civ clone

Get out

>>180706080
what's the issue here buddy

I just don't really enjoy Civ, and thus don't want a game that plays like it.

How important is it to manually play battle in Endless Legend?
can I just auto them all and pretend its a Civ?

>>180706823
Manual if the forces are evenly balanced or worse, auto if the battle is in your favor

>>180706823
The autoresolve is pretty fair, though some comps and tactics work far better in human hands than they do when skipped.

>>180706823
the autoresolve is a smartie autoresolve; i'd manual if you feel threatened by the enemy army

you can just autoresolve every battle in the game, too, but that's not as troop-efficient (though it will save you time)

Is there a listing of the class and racial abilities of ES2 Heroes anywhere?

>>180709363
It's incomplete but here:
http://endlesslegend.gamepedia.com/Skill_Tree

Tho why would you need it is a puzzle to me.

Is one of the Vodyani heroes what's her faces brother?

>>180709652
no, isyara's brother is isyander, the heretic and head of the academy

>>180709610
Wrong game. I'm looking to change the Vodyani skill before starting my next game, and want to compare them to everything else before I fiddle with the numbers or effects.

>>180709779
According to a devpost I can't seem to dig up atm in internal builds "per level" part was removed.

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>start building a exploration ship
>Riftborn: DON'T THINK YOU CAN TRESPASS SO FLAGRANTLY

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>>180710201
Thanks, hopefully that's enough of a fix for now.

>>180699265
>Whats the most brutal faction for snowballing starting with an early rush in stellaris?

Fanatic Xenophobe, Authoritarians
Extremely Adaptive & Strong (or Rapid Breeders, your choice anon)
Mining & Slave Guilds

Unity 1 - Expansion then Master of Nature.
Unity 2 - Supremacy then Interstellar Dominion.
Note: Take the Supremacy starter as your second pick, then go back to finishing Expansion.

Use caste system to enslave everyone working farms or mines without having to enslave energy or scientists.

Make sure you pick the Galactic Ambitions and Genome Mapping tech as soon as they show up.

Survey every system with a planet, blob out hard. Once you're locked in by opposition expansion, fill in the less useful planets and grow your economy. Pick off shitty empires to annex planets where possible, you'll pretty quickly snowball beyond any AI empire's ability to stop you.

>>180711713
>mining + slave guilds
When will this meme die. Slave Guilds are gutter trash until way later in the game when you're able to feasibly build Mining planets with entire slave populations.

>>180710837
I mean, that's still fucking stupid good, but its not downright game-breaking.

>>180712775
>way later in the game when you're able to feasibly build Mining planets with entire slave populations.

Haha nigga you serious? Learn to play. Literally every planet you build in Stellaris should be a one-resource.

>>180713379
My point is that Slave Guilds is not a good pick for early game rush.

>>180713576
>being this wrong

>>180713821
>bonus resources from a subset of your population that doesn't become meaningful until you have about 3 colonies up
>better for early rush strat than any of the other more flexible traits, or the flat 15% Credits from Corporate Dominion.
If you've got a pure slavery colonization idea that doesn't hamstring early development I'd love to hear it, because typically you need at least 2 or 3 diversified colonies to get all your yields over critical mass before you can start snowballing slaves.
I guess a very fortunate start with tons of orbital Credit mines could get a Mineral planet kickstarted, but that's just relying on good spawning and even then your initial science generation is going to be pretty shit.

>>180712921
"Stupid good" is par for the course of T3 hero skills. Check out little something called Vox Populi. 80% industry bonus on system.

>>180674305
No.
I have come to usurp you, old man.

Why are Cyrus' immortals so retarded in Civ VI? Not even talking gameplay, just historical context.

>Classical era when Hoplites are Ancient (I know that's because muh mythology, but still)
>considered Infantry instead of anti-Cav despite using weighted spears primarily
>High defense stat when they carried fucking baskets as shields
>no movement bonus from starting on open terrain as a nod to their zerg rush tactic at Thermopylae
>not just giving them passive mini Heals so they "never die"

And don't even get me started on Legions.

>>180716934
>expecting a game made by poos and women to make sense
progressivism, not quality

>>180673678
>the only drawback of Vodyani is 50% slower growth
>it doesnt matter because on worlds that have 3+ planets you actually grow faster because 1 pop can populate all the colonizable planets on the system
>it happens instantly after you develop the tech

This race has so many retarded features I am glad the AI is garbage at playing it in comparison to players because it would demolish everything, especially with the FIDIS boost of Vodyani heroes combined with the boost high difficulty AI gets.

>>180690263
Gil is a massive faggot so I hand over my boipucci for a plundering

>>180719131
>>the only drawback of Vodyani is 50% slower growth
Well that and the small insignificant problem of requiring war to colonise shit. But sure, keep on bitching how OP race that can barely expand untill the very late game is super OP. Meanwihle riftborn will put 20 colonies in that time with no drawbacks other than coloniser costs and cravers will casually consume more systems than vodyani can dream to colonise.

But no, keep on bitching about how the only tall faction actually has some tall benefits.

>>180719684
You do not even require war to take systems from other empires, let alone to just colonize. You will make them angry, sure, but you can leech and expand without declaring war at all. If the AI was good, you would lose the moment it spawned next to you and decided to ark rush you without there even being a war declaration.

>>180719932
If you try to leech a major in MP, most will treat it same as any declaration of war. Given that arks are paper tigers that can be killed with a proper 7 ship fleet if left undefended you better be ready for war if you want to munch off of a major. Minors on the other hand generate so little food that if you put more than one leech on them you will quickly deplete your food source, getting at most couple arks out of them.

>ark rush you without there even being a war declaration.
Last time a player Ark rushed me he lost more than one Ark.

Ark rushes are a strategy that works wonders agaisnt AI and/or newbies, but they are very easy to deflect unless they come with a proper fleet attached. You can't use your 1st ark to rush, you will go bankrupt on maintenence. You can do it with your second, but good luck having any escort for that with vodyani early game being slow it is. It could work if you are up close and personal, sure, or it can end your game right then and there. And at three you better believe there is a defence fleet ready.

>>180720317
>shifting goalposts
Attempt to re-read the argument from the very beginning and see why your reply makes no sense in the context the conversation was set.

>>180721754
>I am very smart.

>>180721824
The only reference to ark-rushing was in the context of a hypothetical competent high-difficulty AI fucking you sideways with the Vodyani, for which multiplayer is not really relevant.

>>180721978
Mate, if you think you can unilaterally declare what is and isn't relevant in a game balance discussion on a basket weaving forum, you are so high up your own ass you need a flashlight to see shit.

As I said, vodyani need war to colonise shit. You are yet to present any coherent reasoning on why they don't other than "you don't need to technically declare war". Which is an irrelevant technicality at best. You still have to protect your leechers. You still have to engage/run around enemy fleets, you still have to spend all your production on boats. And that's even if you decide that you don't want to mess with majors, because pirates are a thing.

>>180722326
>I am not very smart

>>180719684
>Meanwihle riftborn will put 20 colonies in that time
They still need to build colon ships to do that, and you might get a lot of colonies only if other players decide to let you do it

>>180722563
Sure, but the argument to begin with was that Vodyani are OP because their colonial game is too strong. I just pointed out that there are plenty others who have way, way better opportunities when expanding.

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Poor little guys.

>>180722636
>>180722326

No the argument was that they have retarded FIDIS bonuses which combined with the AIs bonuses on Endless should make them really strong, but it doesn;t because the AI is garbage.

You, however, decided to go on the defensive and explain how weak they are because they need to survive the early game before they get the +4 FIDIS/hero level skill and start shitting out arks and pop, while the early game is perfectly easy to survive granted you have just one (1) minor civilization to leech from to make sure you can get an ark or two.

The moment you get your second ark pirates are completely irrelevant so I am not sure why you would ever even bring them up. No factions do not instantly declare war if you start leeching from them, they might immediately send some ships to deal with your leechers or they might not, it depends on the faction and what they are doing, but if they don;t you basically achieved your goal with your leechers there to begin with.Of course you cant leave them there for 20 turns. all you need is 3-4 at the start.

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>>180722884
Spiders are cute tho.

>>180723042

Not if they're the size of a car.

>>180723109
I see your point.

>>180722884
>30 percent happiness on a planet full of spiders
Isn't that a lot

Can I get some tips for playing as the Unfallen? What victory conditions am I supposed to be going for as them? Does the AI tend to agree to be at peace with you and let you vine up their planets on harder difficulties?

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>>180725183
FIRE

>>180725230
TREE OF PEACEEEEEE

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>>180725230
WILL NOT DESTROY YOU

>>180725343
I wish yields weren't always so ridiculous at the end of Amplitude games.

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>>180725398
I know what you mean.

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>>180725565
>35k prod
>oh it must be end game with all buildings unlocked or some shit
>turn 76

>>180725565
>+1088 from curiosities
What the actual fuck.

>>180725692
Look at that hero and know how

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>>180725879
The 23k are caused by the hero ?

>>180725183
>Can I get some tips for playing as the Unfallen?
Expand as quickly as possible, unfallen benefit greatly from expansion due to cumulative bonuses from vines and a lot of growth modifiers.

>What victory conditions am I supposed to be going for as them?
They are generalists but have great tools for conquest victory.

>Does the AI tend to agree to be at peace with you and let you vine up their planets on harder difficulties?
Yes, but you have to bribe it.

>>180725565
>>180725692
Vodyani have a broken good skill at the moment. Devs said they were gonna nerf it in the next patch and than didn't. Half the whine about vodyani is actually about that skill.

>>180725727
There is a minor species that gives you industry for curiosities explored. Given that exploring curiosites is a good idea anyhow, this can get fun rather quickly. Tho AI is usually better than that at exploring their own curiosities.

>>180725993
One of the Vod hero skills gives insane fidsi bonuses.

>>180726010
No, I know it's one of the Pulsos assimilation traits, I'm just shocked you managed to get that many.

>>180726010
>Devs said they were gonna nerf it in the next patch and than didn't
No refunds

>>180725879
>>180725993
>>180726010
>>180726039
>>180726165
It's not that.

I got three of those luxuries that gives you +50% industry for system development plus the +4 industry per pop one twice, combined with a custom vodyani race with +40% industry.

Guardian heroes have a skill that adds +80% more industry (Vox Populi). I spammed explorers to get those curiosities and got Planet Cracker Lab -> Urgent AI so I finished all the research by Turn 76.

This is on Normal speed.

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>>180726039
Wrong anon. I too am impressed by his sneaky scouts. Probably bribed the hell out of AI to do that.

>>180726165
See picture.
>>180726536
It may not be JUST that, but looking at your influence - it certainly has played a role.

>>180726670
I guess.

Yeah, I spent most of my game scouting and bribing the AI with luxuries I don't need. I got good enough weapons and meatshields (star wrecks) early game to beat pirates with my explorers.

Plus with that industry bonus I can just churn them out like ten per system per turn lol.

Can you choose which pop gets chainganged?

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>fanatical athoritarian
>find 25 Gaia world right off the bat
>lush green paradise brimming with food and minerals
>turn it into the largest slave colony in the galaxy

I havent played Lumeris, Unfallen, Riftborn and United Empire so far. In which order would you recommend I give them a shot? How interesting are they mechanically and quest-wise?

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>>180730758
>In which order would you recommend I give them a shot?
What do you want?

>How interesting are they mechanically and quest-wise?
>United Empire
Mechanic is cool and powerful but unimaginative. Quest is fun if you think you will enjoy discovering head aches of the emperor of Space Russia.
>Lumeris
Mechanic is meh, mostly vanilla playstyle. Haven't done the quest, but it's about being juggling factions of Space Venice/Mafia.
>Unfallen
Mechanic is quite something, it isn't so much strong or weak, simply different. Quest is about chosing between Light and Fire, i.e. peace and war. If you like new age hippy crap, you'll like it - otherwise - not.it's not bad per se, just requires certain tastes.
>Riftborn
Welcome to the most OP colonisers in the game. Building your pops make colonisation very different, but very fun, once you get a hang of it. Singularities can do some fancy shit, tho I'm yet to convince myself that it's worth researching advanced ones. Quest is about being in an alien universe, our universe, from perspective of something truly alien. If you don't hate Amplitude writing this quest is quite amusing.

>>180731578
>new age hippy crap

Hardly, Unfallen are interesting because they're basically a choice between extreme conservationism (everything must be preserved) and managed conservationism (sometimes you need to cull to protect). That's pretty much the opposite of hippy new age horseshit because they wouldn't even have that discussion.

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>fanatic militarist xenophile
>find world of renaissance very strong frogs
>uplift them to be my warrior buddies

>>180731578
>>180732105
The unfallen must be purged either way because their entire race was strongly influenced by a Lost, and we all know they are up to no good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBo-4f3b90o

>>180732404
Hardly, a Lost isn't actually driving the Academy questline, just the Heretic who wants them back at any cost.

And desu, the story of Dust makes it pretty clear that the Endless were the bad guys there.

>>180732486
He gets them back without destroying the galaxy and everyone in it, therefore the process itself was not what he was referring to in his speech.

Besides I do not see how it makes it clear that the endless were in the wrong in any way. They killed them all to use their corpses as spacedrugs, sure, but usually these stories end up with the ancient race we try to bring back being even worse and there being a reason for them to get wiped out.

>>180732105
It's still new age hippy crap, mate. Just not poorly written. The story is still about space trees trying to bring peace to the galaxy. No ammont of good writing will make it not new age.

That being said, much like I said in the previous post - it's not bad, just dependent on readers tastes not being affronted by this particular mix of tropes.
>>180732486
>And desu, the story of Dust makes it pretty clear that the Endless were the bad guys there.
That's a bit of false logic. We know that they were bad guys, sure. But we know next to nothing of their rival, there is no reason to believe that they weren't every bit as bad, or maybe even worse than the happy go lucky dust addicts.

>>180732746
The races that I would root for the success of in the ES universe are the Vodyani and the Horatio. Both seek to bring a particular order in the galaxy and push for a unitary vision, without actually wanting to blow it up, destroy random shit, summon ES C'thulu, or whatever else.

Played a bit of ES2 and every Endless mentioned are Virtuals. Do they mention Concrete at all?

>>180733145
The UE want a united galaxy too

>>180733161
Yes

>>180733206
>united galaxy
>relying on humans to be united and not be trashy power-hungry apes

I am unconvinced.

>>180733161
Anyone else thinks that the Virtual and the Concrete are just ARM and CORE?

>>180733274
Shut up, heretic. Mankind prevails.

>>180733274
It's okay, they have the guidance of the eternal Tsar Zelevas.

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>>180733274
Don't worry they have the immortal ZELEVAS to lead them

>>180733274
It's cool, they have Zelevas, he's not a moron.

Virtuals did nothing wrong.

>>180733274
>The races that I would root for the success of in the ES universe are the Vodyani and the Horatio
>the Horatio
>relying on humans to be united and not trashy power-hungry apes

>>180733423
The Horatio is no longer human. Horatio is the Horatio.

>>180733332
Imagine being led by a boomer for all eternity.

>>180733454
Are you implying that Horatio is something other than what Horatio has always been?

>>180733473
He's pretty ripped.

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>>180733309
>Heretic
Where?!

>>180733414
Correct

>>180733414
They got themselves almost wiped out, that was a pretty big misstep.

>>180733332
>goes through the trouble of picking an heir in the main quest
>"lol just kidding i want to be a eternal god-king"
what did zelevas mean by this

>>180733605
>people get angry over it
>"if they turn a mountain into a statue of me they'll love me again"
>it works
hmmm

>>180733605
Every option was a filthy traitor anyway.

>>180733695
How so? I didnt read through the quest because I was playing at 2AM and wanted to get the game over with.

>>180733751
If you go to the bunker instead of attending you discover that all three of them had some conspiracy to do... I can't even fucking remember at this point, it's been a while since I played UE.

>>180733817
I only did UE/Lena but I don't remember it being her, I thought it was the sister he kept arrested

>>180733817
Ehh, I haven't done the bunker as every side, but if you pick Mezari girl it turns out to not be her, but Lena. She becomes extrimely loyal and efficient according to text after you get rid of Lena

>>180733865
I'm getting a lot less confident in my memory as this conversation continues.

>>180734031
>>180733980
Sounds like it might be one oif the ones you didn't pick

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>>180733504
Horatio is as perfect as Horatio is and has always been. Perfectly perfect.

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>>180734247
FUCK YOU

>>180733423
Makes me wonder if Horatio ever fucked a normal woman before he went mad.
There may be a son of him out there.

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>>180734290

>>180734290
Got something against Horatio Sauce, fuckboy?

What's the best custom setup to make use of the UE ability?

I'm going to try smashing through things on fast to see what the hell happens.

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>>180734370
>>180734410
YES
I'm going to mod Horatio in Rimworld, just so that I can feed him to my spiders.

>>180734414
Anything that shits out influence

>>180734563
>implying you can """""mod"""" perfection

It would me a mere imperfect imitation. Though go ahead, if this will make your envy for Horatio settle down at least a little bit.

>>180734414
>What's the best custom setup to make use of the UE ability?
Riftborn+Emperor's will synergises quite well. Sprinkle with industry bonuses and some +influence minor race and you are set.

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>>180734563

>>180734742
Can't really run through the UE quests as Riftborn, though I guess that does make it a pretty stupid question.

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>Vodyani invading enemy during cold war
>losing ground battles and ships because they keep attacking them
>they ask me for help then proceed to bitch when I dont help because I don't have the Righteous Fury law

Riftborn are best allies
Vodyani are worst allies
Trees are even worster allies because they always have the potential of backstabbing you and stealing all of your shit

>>180735038
Unfallen won't steal your systems as long as you remain allies. Think of it like a bunch of nukes sitting in your empire waiting to go off if you try to start shit with them.

>want to make a mod
>Stellaris launcher successfully create a folder, but there's no .mod files in it
:thinking:

>>180698318
Not really necessary, but all of the DLC is really fun.

>>180698318
tempest is fun because MORGAWR

I havent played the Riftborn and wont have time to do so any time soon. Do they manage to find a way to heal their universe during their quest? And do they have plans for ours?

>>180698318
>are any of the DLC for Endless legend necessary?
Pretty much all of them are desirable. Shifters, shadows and tempest stand out since they fix some core issues.

>>180735627
Major spoilers

>Do they manage to find a way to heal their universe during their quest?
No
And do they have plans for ours?
Yes. It involves turning their part of it into a reflection of theirs.

What is the best fleet comp for unfallen?

Should I go attacker + protectors? Their protectors don't have tons of support slots...

I'm used to riftborn with the super min-maxed fleet loud-outs.

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>>180735505
this

>>180735627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x_JWt7qr-8&ab_channel=LFPGaming

>120 turns into a game
>game is stuck on end turn
>go to reload save
>stuck on "connecting to server"

I tried it on several save files from this session and its the same shit with all of them. What causes this?

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Welp. That's what I feared.
I can't save a picture to DDS format. So no Kumo.

>>180736579
Why did you censor two of the portrait categories?

>>180736771
You know exactly why.

>>180736771
so we don't hack him

>>180736771
Why is the sky blue? What are you doing in my house? Why do you keep a spider as pet if you're terrified of spiders?
Can you people stop asking questions for once?

>>180737098
Why is Horatio so perfect?

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>>180737196
Because he's a good cook and he tastes good.
I bet Kumo would love him. If she can love anyone at all.

>>180737196
because of his sauce

So, I assume as UE you want to go for any tech that gives you more influence and production asap, yes?

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>>180737783
That's what I did on my only playthrough with them and it worked well. Some anon posted this, but I have yet to test it

>Extreme TERACO laser
>Damage per second: 27
>Critical hit chance: 18%
>Weapon Type: Energy
>Flotilla collateral damage received 10%
Oh sweet splash damage

>Save up enough green shit to put it on your carrier.
>it actually damages your own flotilla.
What
The
Flying
Fuck
Were
They
Thinking?

I'm sticking with missiles and kinetics.

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>>180737863
>influence
>dump it into minors

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I think I'll switch from society grants to engineering grants now

>>180737940
this is now an anime general

>>180737940
You don't have enough influence at the start to do anything else with it, and minors give you great bonuses and of course allow you to expand later on

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>>180738025
horatio is my favorite anime

>>180738036
>minors give you great bonuses and of course allow you to expand
I don't play Endless Space 2 but that sounds HIGHLY FUCKING ILLEGAL

>>180738146
It's a different time, not the same culture, but I can understand how minors can give you more manpower and such, it's pretty logical when you think about it. And expanding, even in such little places, is always enjoyable so there is also that

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>>180738295
>expanding, even in such little places, is always enjoyable

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You know, for all the discussion about perfect geometrically shaped cities, this baby is a monster.

>>180738437
Please build your cargo docks on that tile next to the altar of auriga pronto

>>180738437
That would be even better for morgawr

endless space 2 problem:

A ground combat won't resolve, there is a different system with a ship in orbit that won't move even with full movement points, and the same system as the ship can't have anything added to the build queue.

This is after loading an auto-save two saves ago because i got a turn that wouldn't end.

What the fuck?

>>180738541
Think I just wet myself a little

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>>180738503
Why? altar is crap at leveling, and there is a precious magical forest I've been chasing whole game. I indend to dump the docks when i catch it. Tho I'm unsure if I can move embarcation after I already build a dock. If I can I'll probably grab it sooner.
>>180738541
Yeah, no joke, it would be fucking epic.
>>180738587
Are you a dirty pirate? Because that sounds like an early version being played.

>>180739042
By the time you expand round there the main perk of the docks as leveling up several districts early for free is gone.

>>180739042
Nope. Steam.

>>180705783
>Is Age of Wonders any good?
It's a glorious, funny combat game.

>>180706823
Manual can win even hopeless battles.

I never played an Endless game before. What should I expect from DLC/Expansions for the game? How much do they usually cost?

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>>180739156
You might have notieced that this city is not being build according to concerns of leveling it up. Rather I'm trying to get as much land covered as II can and than Stack Sci/prod bonuses on tiles. Here, have a normal city, you boring minion of orthodoxy.
>>180739225
That's weird. I haven't seen those bugs in a long while. Or wait... Are you fighting a war with lategame riftborn?

>>180739397
uhhh...yes?

>>180739397
Is that not going to cripple your happiness though?

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>>180739493
You got hit with stasis singularity. It will go away in 10 turns or so, until than nothing will happen there. Not-a-fucking-thing. There is a reason dev name for them is timelords.
>>180739543
Been at ferwent the whole game and intend to keep it so.
>>180739261
>What should I expect from DLC/Expansions for the game?
An overhaul of unimpressive system. Like espionage got added in one, seas got turned from that thing you use to walk between continents int a battlefield in another, winter was transformed from "everything sucks and things that suck suck even more" into an actual fun feature.

>>180739794
no. like... the game is broken. None of my ships will move, and I can't end turn because the "resolve ground battle" screen pops up and I click "fight" and nothing happens.

And now I can't even load a save. The game just hangs on "launching game".

>>180740058
TIME. LORDS.

>>180740058
Try verifying game cache maybe?

>>180740058
Than it's straight up a bug. Try reloading even older save if you have one, verify file integrity and switch to the latest beta, if nothing helps go to g2g forums and file a bug report with save attached. Might save someone the pain.

>>180740181
>statis singularitys stop you playing the game for a while
Next level design

>>180705783
it's kindof a mix between civ and homm
fun for maybe a few hours, but, honnestly, it's meh

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>>180705783
Age of Wonders 1 is technically not a 4x, my first impression of it was that it was like a mix between Warlords and homm.

AoW2 and AoW3 count as 4xes, and make the master of magic connection more apparent.

Focused around combat more, and it has a tactical combat screen unlike most 4x games

Overland terrain, research progression, combat, heroes are all different to civ.
City management is somewhat similar, but not really.

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is it just me or does endless space to not spark the excitement of exploration and wonder like other space 4x games?

it kinda feels really 'gamey'. like it was designed for multiplayer in mind where you just have a 2 hour game and thats it, your done, you start a new game. the competitive quests ruin it too

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>befriend everybody by the medieval era (except Teddy's stupid greenpeace ass)
>nobody ever even thinks about betraying me, managing to win without a single war
This was a weird game. Also holy shit having high diplomatic visibility with the AI makes wonder whoring so easy it's not even fun.

>>180741580
The first or the second endless space? 2 is pretty great.

>>180741580
Different strokes different folks. I find exploration in it far more exciting than in, say, stellaris. Because I know what I'm getting in stellairs, a bunch of fluff that will add up to nothing in most cases. While In ES2 every system, every curiosity has asolid chance of altering my gameplan.

Competitive quests make it feel like there are actually other players around, rather than just some obstacles I have to knock over to paining map into my color.

Different strokes, as I said.

>>180741580
>does endless space to not spark the excitement of exploration and wonder like other space 4x games?
Es2? Exploration really matters in ES2. In most other games it doesn't.

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yeah i meant endless space 2. maybe im just too focused on min maxing rather than having fun

>>180742270
...how do you min-max in ES2? The "automated" upgrade is often better than anything I try to do.

is there a more redpilled alpha thing to do than building hydroponic farms on betharian stone?

>>180742476
Not him but building efficient ships and fleets for a starter, meaning you have to choose their weapons and modules carefully. You can also make different models of the same ships for cost or power reasons.
Also mean minmax can refer to the macro game and means you have to choose your techs and buildings in the most efficient manner

>>180742160
>Es2? Exploration really matters in ES2. In most other games it doesn't.
Exploration is kinda key in all 4x games

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>>180742160
>Es2? Exploration really matters in ES2. In most other games it doesn't.>>

>exploration doesnt matter in Aurora 4x, DW or Stellaris

>ywn be this idiotic

>>180742729
Making a fleet composed solely of Battleships fully loaded with Autocannons and armor

Endless space 2 question: What is the best way to "automate" a system that you just colonized? I'm thinking industry?

If I get the "food into industry" tech, is it then food?

>>180743617
EL used has automation type "balanced" it's a pity they got rid of it. But what you are suggesting sounds reasonable if you want to be using automation.

>>180741580
The story in ES2 does a decent enough job at least, ES1 I agree.

>>180742026
You can see what wonders they are building just with diplomatic visibility? I thought diplomatic visibility was just to show their agendas.

any tips for mafia fish

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>>180745456

>>180745456
She can have my tip, if you catch my meaning.

>>180745697
>>180745574
Thank you for your insightful advice

>>180745456
Go for an economic victory.

>>180745760
watch it, you don't wanna end up sleeping with the fishes do you?

>>180745456
Some folks, like myself, avoid her because of how broken TR are right now. Feels like cheating. So I guess rush TR, would be my advice from my nonexistent expirience.

>>180733309
>endless use pseudo magic scifi bullshit to destroy planets and who knows what else
>wage a war against themselves around transferring consciousness
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

is civ 6 good yet?

>>180746467
Reminds me of Planetary Annihilation.

What a huge disappointment that game was.

>>180746515
Yeah, its pretty good, still not as good as civ 5 complete though

>>180746562
>mfw your post reminded me to play supreme commander
>mfw the similarities between riftborn and seraphim

>>180746824
I genuinely love Supreme Commander. It's a very complex game, but the AI has enough settings to be very forgiving, even allowing you to play sandcastle.
Compared to that, the AI in AoE2 HD always keeps me on my toes.

>>180746964
It's a fantastic game, and whilst I can fairly consistently beat the AI, sorian's AI still sometimes trips me the fuck up.

Maybe I should play FAF, or set up a game or something to play with actual people

>>180747427
Just don't play with me, I still suck. I played once online, and while everyone was very nice, I sucked massive cock.
They told me to do the campaign to get good, never managed to finish even the first mission.

How do you get trade routes to leave a constellation if they can't warp?

So in Civ VI, am I supposed to be just shitting out Farms in the early Eras? I feel like I play way too conservatively and overplan my districts, though I've only played up to Medieval so far.

>>180747605
The campaign is actually kind of difficult, the trick though is to not just send only enough to destroy your objective, because when the map expands you will immediately be counterattacked

I struggled on the second mission on hard so it's OK

>>180747810
research wormholes

>>180747810
Wormholes

>>180747820
It depends, you don't want to neglect production or chopping either.

>>180747820
can't give you advice if you don't state *AT LEAST* the difficulty you're on.
There are other variables.