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GAS THE TRIKES SPACE WAR NOW edition

>What?
Starsector is a 2D single-player open-world RPG space combat exploration economic game thing, basically Mount & Blade but in space.
Outdated but still relevant introduction video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=596&v=UTCpVY80Bpc [Embed]

>Where?
Official site:
http://fractalsoftworks.com
Official forums:
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php#1

>Current version
0.8.1aRC8

>List of popular mods
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=177.0

>The performance is really bad what do I do?
Other than allocating more memory for the game to use, there isn't much you can do.
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=8726
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>>180595629
Do I have to buy/recover 2836423 Hounds to carry supplies around or where the fuck do I get better freighters?
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>>180596585
What kind of freighter are you looking for? Fast or decent capacity? Buffalos and Mules aren't a bad way to go if you're looking to move up in the world. The Colossus is probably the most efficient freighter in the game if you're a minmaxer.
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OK, anyone have a quick guide on making webm's for games?
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What's the biggest bounty yall have seen? I'm at 800k, do they just keep going up infinity?
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>>180597301
webm for bakas
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>>180597363
saw up to 1.5 mil for a Cabal fleet once, but i didn't bother with it since those high reward cabal bounties have some truly ridiculous fleet makeups.
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>>180597898
pusy
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>>180597898
1.5mill cabal
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>>180597448
Thanks! Then what's the simplest desktop capture software I can use to convert to webm?
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>>180598463
obs or fraps
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>>180598463
if you have a nvidia card, you can use geforce experience
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What's the mod you guys miss the most?
besides dong
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>>180601480
Lotus Conglomerate.
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>>180601480
Iconeus Citadel Exiles
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>>180601480
Citadel
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>>180601480
citadel the most, but shout out to hiigaran descendents/kadurr and mayorate

I don't list tiandong or exi because they'll be updated eventually, but citadel is on indefinite hiatus and the creators of the others have disappeared
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>>180596674
I'd try my hand at making some webbums, but my fps isn't even very good just playing normally. Who knows how shit it'd look while recording?
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>>180602320
Citadel is probably dead but the same guy is working on an FTL inspired mod.
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>>180604970
why is he canning citadel? all those perfectly fine assets gone to waste
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>>180601480

The approlight railguns on a Banshee-Norn just felt so fucking right, it's disgusting.

But, honestly, NGO.
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testing
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>>180605689
>there are people that want to buff gryphon's autoforge
Absolute madmen
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>>180605689
Why's the bottom cut off?
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>>180605965
just getting obs/webm converter workin
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>>180606260
>Someone here was so retarded that they thought that giving this thing infinite autoforges was a good idea and would be fine balance wise.
Granted with the way he talked he had absolutely no idea how good missiles are, but still.
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Why haven't they been able to make progress in figuring out how the gates work?
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>>180606543
>>Someone here
*on the official forums
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>90% of bounties are from hostiles
>I'm somehow getting bounties from pirates despite being at -100/100
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>>180606546
nobody knew how they worked in the first place, and few people even really understand how to build ships from scratch. it's a future where everything is being made in autofactories from blueprints

kind of like 40k but less grim
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>sell system data on black market
>suspicion level: Extreme
TAXATION IS THEFT
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>>180606546

because the domain gate labs are on the wrong side of the gates and the details of how they were made and functioned was probably a pretty well-guarded secred
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I really wish in the over world map that you could communicate with other non-enemy fleets. Like, stop running after the single shuttle and come and try to take on the armada, together we can fight it off. Or, being able to ask for assistance in taking out a fleet (i.e. follow me and engage with me), how it is right now seems basically random if a nearby ally fleet will join you or not in battle.
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>>180595629
Don't talk to me until you've fought alongside the AI. Go derelict/remnants!
Also, nice not linking previous threads
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Should I betray the Hegemony to take Jangala for the church?
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>>180596674
>tfw can't charge in my glorious XIV Onslaught anymore because enemy fleets have gotten large enough to rape my armor if I get too close
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>>180610389
Nexerelin has something like that.
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Since I've updated a few mods, I've noticed I can no longer just edit a faction mod file and set offers commission=false to buy their better gear. What in the fuck changed this and how do I change it back?
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>>180612713
Ya, but doesn't that only work for actual faction allies?
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>>180613410
Yup. They can't be in the middle of anything either, so if your faction's entire invasion fleet decides to go off and chase a tiny Pirate scouting fleet, tough luck.
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If you do a free start with no homeworld in Nex, do other factions still try to sabotage your relations? I tried a start with a home world, and Blackrock went and made three factions hostile to me for god knows what reason.
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Wow, the first round of the tournament was pretty nice!
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>>180621786
videos where
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>>180621786
This fucking announcer
I cant watch this like this
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>>180602320
The Hiigs, Mayorate and ESPECIALLY NGO all need to die. Preferably in the cold, crushing vacuum of a black hole
>Why?
Hiigs is a shit tier IP mod. It would need to be reimagined and redesigned from the ground up for SS while at the same time nerfing everything back down to earth
The Mayo's modder re-uses sound assets even though he can make his own quality sounds and his 3D model ships look muddy and fail the squint test
NGO... Wellll let's see here... Space Nazi's? Check! Ripped and recolored assets from another game? Double Check! Zero support and bug squashing? Triple Check!! Made by an actual Neo-Nazi? ULTRA CHECK!!!
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>oh you misclicked on the 100th scan of the game and refused permission, well now you're stuck in a dialogue where the only option is to fight a major faction

have they seriously not caught this? lol
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>>180622223
Calm the fuck down, Midnight. There's nothing wrong with IP mods.
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>>180622457
I beg to differ.
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>>180622457
I'd rather have an IP mod than anything by a damn nazi (and yes, he had a Hitler avatar pic and it came complete with a private youtube link that was Hitler Youth shit)
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>>180622558
B-but I want a LotGH mod.
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>>180622756
Tough titties.
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>>180601480
NGO
they weren't just another OP tri-jews clone and their not-star destroyer ships fun as hell.
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>>180622585
pic related

>>180622756
LotGH would be cool but i feel the scale and ranges don't match up to the game.
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>>180622457

Oh so I'm not the only one who thinks that obnoxious fucker is posting here.
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>>180624680
Or is that what someone wants you to think?
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>>180621912
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=81a6g44fep0
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>>180624680
Why the fuck would a normie with no mods to their name, who also says he is a furry in his forum tag line, come HERE to 4chan? Nah, he and most likely most non modders on the forums avoid this place like the plague
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>>180625712
>tournament
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dead as fuck
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>>180625720
>implying /trash/ isn't furry central
they're here, anon
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This ship slaps your tsunderer

what do you field?
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>>180633241
Imperial TITAN.
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>>180633241
I'd flank that with a Vigilance and put a Reaper Typhoon up her tailpipe, if you know what I mean.
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I... Uhhh... I think I shouldn't disturb them
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>>180635219
LEWD
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>>180631853

they've always been here. sadly, mods won't make the /fur/ incident an annual event.
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>>180601480

Appro. Hasn't received an English version in about a year now iirc.
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>>180635852
I forgot about that, shit was funny as fuck.

I was really sad when it turned out they weren't doing the same thing with /mlp/
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>>180633241
Is that the ISS Squatting Slav?
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>Homeworld: Emergence was originally released as "Homeworld: Cataclysm". "Cataclysm" is now a registered trademark of Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., and the game has been renamed to avoid confusion.
thanks obama
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>>180637556
>4chan then
>4chan now
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>>180638606
Like I if I needed another reason to hate Blizzard.
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>>180637556
that's because some of the mods are bronyfags
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>Fighting the derelict to make a derelict fleet.
>pro tactic of out ranging with a sunder is working a charm
>Where the fuck are all these missiles coming from
O-oh
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"Swarm Hub" Frigate with 5 Frigate LPC slots when?
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tip to modders stop making thin capital ships you goatfucking asshats jesus christ
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>>180640205
THICC
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What can I fit in my Falcon-class so it isn't shit?
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>>180640205

a heavy mount is 32 px wide and i swear to god i won't use a single one more

that's how it is and that's how you'll like it
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>>180640475
>heavy

*large. why the fuck do i keep calling them heavy?
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>>180640332

swap the akers for hac if FOR SOME REASON you don't have any. hvd if you're a range junkie, but the falcon isn't really the ship for it.

missiles could be swapped for harps or atropos or just about anything.
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>>180640205
But it's okay if it's a heavily armored high tech ship with more reactor strength than actual firepower, right?
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>>180622206

no kidding
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>>180625712
>SRA defeated by derelicts
SRA confirmed for balanced
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>>180643629

man those fits must have been dire
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>>180643629
Deploys only carriers,
>Sabot spam
>Locust missiles
>No bombers
They didn't even had a chance
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>>180644009
>Deploys only carriers,
>No bombers

brilliant
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>>180625712
>putting am blasters on a double heavy blaster ship
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>>180644354
There is also that Diable fleet full of Kinetic damage weapons because that player though he was facing the Remnants instead of the Derelicts.
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this is why you give your infighters ion pulsers not ion beams

you can also see a hint of why you should give your wolves ion beams and not pulsers
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>>180644725
why give ion anything
instead of a real weapon that actually does damage or raises flux
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>>180643721
Still not as bad as the Neutrino ships!
They still won, but barely when they should have obliterated those Derelicts.
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>>180645131

emp owns
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>>180644725

actually, use that synergy slot for missiles and just get two ion cannons instead
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>>180645131
IIRC they do respectable frag damage
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>>180644445
>"There is no such thing as too much firepow... Oh shit I overloaded!"
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>>180645356

no, ion beam does 50 energy damage at 25% efficiency. pulser 150 at 75%, which is pretty ok considering how much EMP you get on top.

but what the beam does do is arc like a motherfucker. so if you have even a little hard flux your shit starts shutting down. if you're on high hard flux even your engines can be in trouble.
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>>180645595
Derp, meant the torpedoes
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>>180643629
>even diable got #rekt
Diable is balanced
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>>180640916
I'm too noob to know what half of the stuff you said are.
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>>180646138
Change the two guns on the prongs with different guns.
Swag the missails for different missails
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>>180645978
>>180643629
>Imperium got defeated too
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>>180646138

the (heavy) akers are kinetic cannons from a mod (prv starworks). compared to hac they have worse range but better accuracy and some emp damage.

on that falcon this is a good trade since you want to be within phase beam range anyway.

hac are Heavy Autocannons, standard kinetic guns. good range, poor accuracy. solid performers overall.

hvd are Hypervelocity Drivers, long ranged kinetic guns with kinda poor DPS but great per-hit damage.

harps are Harpoons, standard explosive missiles. Atropos are basically harpoons but a little bigger.
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>>180646451
Imperium is balanced then.

Good, this means there are only 3 mods worth installing so far, anything else is unbalanced garbage
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>>180646452
Thanks for the explanation, Anon.
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which mods use the least ram
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>>180640916

>36 fucking vents


What the fuck are you doing?
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>>180625712
>''low-tech' fleet
>puts tier 3 HVDs on everything
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>>180639858
wait till you get to the derelict IBB fleet

it's attack on titan with spaceships
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>>180625712
AAAAAANNNNNDD DME once again proves itself to be overpowered bullshit garbage.
>sabot swarm that fucked over almost every other ship
>LOL LET ME JUST EVADE THEM AT A MILLION MILES PER HOUR BALANCED AMIRITE XD
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How useful is the salvage rig?
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>>180648662
Many times these "tournaments" are just public ways for devs to find balance fuck ups. I would not be surprised if DME got nerfed into the ground half way through as the "Mafia" as they like to call themselves, hates OP and fun shit
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>>180648916
it's shit senpai
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>>180648951
>DME is fun
Soren, please, fuck off and go back to prepping mohammed like the frog you are.
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>>180648916
If you're regularly going out looking for motherships/survey ships/orbital habitats and shit they're top tier. If you're just flying around fighting people in the core I wouldn't bother.
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>>180648951

lol ok soren
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>>180649198
Also you never need more than 4 since the way salvaging works, they only give a bonus based on the % difficulty. Each rig gives 25% extra, and the highest salvage difficulty is 100% (motherships and research stations)
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>tfw you realize that using Photoshop to sprite with REALLY ISN'T FUN even with the necessary knowledge to use it well
>tfw you realize that making sprites isn't for you

Welp.
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>>180648916
i like the Shepard more desu it can sort of defend its self and has cargo space
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>>180649568
Kitbashing is fun!
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>>180650196

kitbashing is uninteresting
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>>180650456
I beg to differ, but it does require some decent paintover to reach its potential. Plus even some vanilla ships are kitbashes from one another.
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opinions here
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>>180650940

FUCK

SKUB
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>>180650940
Skub is great
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Ability to filter bounties from hostiles when
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>>180625712
Looks like vanilla is confirmed for OP because it didn't get eliminated, better uninstall vanilla and only play faction mods
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>>180622223
>NGO... Wellll let's see here... Space Nazi's? Check! Ripped and recolored assets from another game? Double Check! Zero support and bug squashing? Triple Check!! Made by an actual Neo-Nazi? ULTRA CHECK!!!
are you for real this triggered right now? and for the record he got the other game's devs approval before using their sprites
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>>180652098
Vanilla is obviously balanced.
Derelicts are vanilla, they were defeated by vanilla ships, this means vanilla is balanced.
On the other hand, derelicts are vanilla, they were defeated by mod factions, this means the mod faction is a unbalanced piece of overpowered shit that should be removed from the forum and the creator permanently banned.
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Noob here, what should be fleet composition look like?

Right now pic-related is my fleet, but the bounties are starting to have bigger fleets with lots of frigates.
Should I start recovering frigates or keep focusing in destroyers/cruisers?
If so any general tips to know which ship-class to recover and which not? I have a few (D) ships with degraded engines, and it is a PITA so I'm trying to avoid those as much as I can.

Also any reason to arm non-combatant ships if you savescum every time you are faced with a fleet you can't outrun?
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>>180653449
As many Hound (D) as you can.
All equipped with a single weapon in the small slot.
No medium weapon.
It's the only E T H I C A L way
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>>180653571
No offense but I have the feeling you are trying me to do something stupid.
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>>180653449
First organize your ships by size and then auxiliary ships pls
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>>180653765
>not being ethical
You are being stupid right now
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>>180653449

literally nothing but enforcers
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>>180654004
Didn't know you could that.

>>180654016
Any recommendation regarding weapons?
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>sub-100k bounty
>Onslaught flagship
Th-thanks
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>>180654231
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>>180654376
>small fleet
Just slap an avoid command on that onslaught and pick off everyone else, then swarm that onslaught's ass
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>>180654620
"Small"
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>>180654703
lmao
this gonna be fun, swarming onslaughts always is
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>>180654703

kek
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>>180652459
What did he mean by this?
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>>180655363
That vanilla is balanced because it's vanilla but if modded can beat vanilla it means the mod is overpowered. Duh
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>>180654231
switch the placement of the chainguns and the single flacks, they'll get better firing arcs for point defense duty

try and find some sabots to put in in place of the swarmers

thumpers are awful weapons, try to get an autocannon or something with Kinetic damage in that slot instead to help it deal with shields
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>>180655363
It's just side effects after long exposures to /vg/, dont mind them too much
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>>180655547
>thumpers are awful weapons,

wrong
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>>180655505
One battle wouldn't be enough to determine that though, if they won and lost against Vanilla roughly an equal amount of time then that's a good sign of balance. The Derelicts aren't a good indicator of balance either since fighting anything without shields is a cakewalk with the right loadout. Throwing them together with randomized loadouts/ship composition with roughly the same amount of OP or credit cost would work better.

>>180655776
He's not using a 5 thumper SO+UI memeforcer and is clearly new so he should probably give thumpers a pass until he decides to give the meta a try. In basically any other situation thumpers are garbage. II Hailfires are better for that anyway if he's willing to mod.
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>>180656016
>He's not using a 5 thumper SO+UI memeforcer and is clearly new so he should probably give thumpers a pass until he decides to give the meta a try

he certainly needs more than a single thumper to take down shields, but they're perfectly fine weapons these days.

and it's perfectly fine to splash in a thumper here or there, there's no particular need to go all-in on them
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>>180656016
>people still think vanilla is "balanced"
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>>180656414

that's not vanilla
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>>180656481
i was not concerned with the picture you posted
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>Bounty located in a black hole system
>Bait him near the black hole
>He actually does an emergency burn while trying to catch my fleet
>Flies in the event horizion
>Stuck in the event horizon for weeks
>Has no CR at the start of the battle
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Holy fuck now I have to answer six static image captchas for it to be passed

>>180622223
who gives a shit

>>180601480
I miss cristianyte, junk pirates, NGO
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>>180656898
ecksdee
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>>180649128
Wait, I thought Tartiflette was the cute frog boi?
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>>180656898
Why is he referencing Pokemon: Gale of Darkness?
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>>180657738
>>180657178
most of the IBBs are named after/references forum members in some way

i think the line aura gives is a reference to the last round of tournaments
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>>180638606
Sheeit, I gotta donwload it. THe Homeworld franchise is GOAT
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>>180653449
10 moras
all equipped with bomber wings

BLOT OUT THE SUNS WITH BOMBS
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>>180658235
>>180653449
This is a good loadout for a purely vanilla Mora too, stick an aggressive/reckless officer in something like this and it'll do pretty well.
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>>180646451

LRMs.

never ever.
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What's the general opinion on Pilums
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>Page 10
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>>180663691
I like Pilums but I normally just jam them on carriers and shit
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>>180663691
ballistas are better
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>>180663691

complete thrash
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>>180663691
Shite unless you have at least 5 on your fleet then they start doing work

Get exponentially better from there, don't listen to the shitters
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>>180654926
if you hang around in a system with two factions at war you can just follow the battles and pic up all sorts of sweet ships.
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>>180665228
caps with d-mods are all garbage
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>>180665426
>astral with the armor d-mod is garbage
Anon please
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>>180665426
the real deal is getting all the weapons and LPCs off the ships for those nice amounts of credits.
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>>180665718
Where are you selling weapons for a nice amount of credits lol
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>>180665718
>selling weapons for pittance
>not keeping a hoard of weapons
I bet you also sell D-mod ships instead of scuttling them for supplies.
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Okay I think I'm starting to see the appeal in pilums.
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Today I will remind them
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>>180665868
Well you are picking them up from free so any credits are good credits! But generally I fly to the highest stability market I know of and then sell them on the black market before legging it out of the system.

>>180666050
>not keeping a hoard of weapons
Some weapons I keep but stuff like pulse lasers can go.
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>>180666187

remind them that you're broke?
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>>180666905
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>>180666187
*shoots down mercantile convoys*
*slaughters patrols*
*make smugglers eject their cargo*
*make liner convoys pay a toll*
heh... I'll be sure to be nice to their corpse...
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rate my "SO/Devastator burn charge doesn't work in endgame anymore" fit
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>>180668331

two mjolnirs on that generator? who are you kidding.
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>>180668423
>who are you kidding.
Myself.
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>Get my onslaught to 2350 armor
>Single torpedo that got through my flaks and vulcans reduces it to 0
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>>180669758
Remember when Daggers had reapers? Good times
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>>180669758

well, that's what they're for
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>>180669758
i think ITU is worth it just for increasing the range on those damn vulcans. that or pick up an advanced gyro.
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>>180670867
All my flaks were single because thanks market RNG, and I also didn't have the skill that allowed my crew to not be complete fucking retards and actually do some leading to hit the torpedo.

HOW DO I TURN IT ON BY DEFAULT JESUS CHRIST
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>>180656016
>if they won and lost against Vanilla roughly an equal amount of time then that's a good sign of balance
WRONG.
Winning even once is a clear and blatant sign of OPness
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>>180671281
u
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>>180671787
>t. Protonus
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>>180656898
Fuck black holes, I went near one and couldn't get out + didn't save, didn't have cr to burn. Gg please nerf, alex
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Not gonna lie, taking bizamtium in nex was fun

the suicide charge against nova capitalism was one hell of a fight. A mirv missile attackis not only pretty to look at but a big reason to panic, and the artillery platforms look great

I'll take on Diable and remove sindians because then call this campaign over. let' see the other factions on different set ups
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Are the Diable ships any decent?

They don't feel like much of a threat unless they catch you off guard with a missile salvo or flank your rear with some wanzers. Most of their main weapons feels pretty underwhelming or turrets have positions too awkward to get proper firepower out on the board and it feels like all their ships are limited to support only roles. The micro missile spam is pretty cool looking but just like their main weapons vanilla seems to do a better job at every corner anyways. On the other hand wanzers actually feel pretty great, like little micro frigates, but they're fragile and need a lot of support or escorts to stay in the fight. It's weird like diable ships rely on the wanzers for most of their firepower and combat ability, but of course when they get downed your ships are virtually sitting ducks.

I don't know, I don't really understand how you're supposed to use or take advantage of them properly. Any suggestions?
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>>180673448
They got fucked by Derelicts, they are balanced. Nuff said
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>>180673604
Isn't there a tournament-specific patch that attempts to bring down the power level of all mods being used?
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>>180673736
I don't think so.
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>>180673736

no, a few of the mods involved just decided to push out some balance adjustments before it got going
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>>180673604
So they're supposed to be terrible? I'm not looking for some ebin broken combo, just a competitive fleet. It's just weird that these fancy, brand new looking ships aren't much better than pirate fleets with 3 D-mods etc.
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>>180675264
>It's just weird that these fancy, brand new looking ships aren't much better than pirate fleets with 3 D-mods etc.
It just means they are balanced.
If you want overpowered shit then may i point you to Green Knight Security or Dassault Mykonian?
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>>180673448
Diable is fine if you get creative and mix up the weapon loadouts. Maelstrom is one of the better capitals in the game. You will never lose a flux war with this kind of loadout.
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lol if your maelstrom doesn't mount a high-intensity laser
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>>180676125
Wipes the floor with "op" DME capital.

>>180676227
>using the Home for Infinite Losers

zozzle
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>>180676125
>HEY LETS MAKE THIS CAPITAL SHIP LITERALLY 2 LARGE SLOTS WIDE LOL
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>180676125
>Knight Templar weapon
0/10 OP bullshit

DR if you're here, i suggest removing all weapons from KT and instead make multiple version of the ships with built-in weapons only for the purpose of prohibiting the player from having access to OP crap.
Also salvage accessibility set to 0 all across the board.
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r8 my fast mobile
it goes faster then it says it does
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>>180676450
no

t. DR
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>>180676541

i'm sure you can scrounge up the op to make those full racks instead of singles
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>>180676665
Prove it
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>>180676678
I could I guess but I never really use them any way
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>>180676853
>but I never really use them any way

i don't know that feel
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>>180675383
Think you might had been missing the point. Like Tri-tech ships are brand new and definitely out perform pirates, would that mean Tri-tech ships unbalanced? No, because even though they perform like an entire ship class higher, they're more expensive to spot to compensate for that. My point was that the DA ships felt like they under performed given how much they cost to deploy and that they looked relatively new like the Tri-tech ships. I don't know the lore so if they're supposed to be junky ships like pirate material then that's fine, I just expected them to perform on par with their cost compared to other ships given their techy abilities, hullmods and looks and I was wondering If i was just using them poorly or something.
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>>180676450
I honestly never use the KT weapons they use way to much OP to put on pretty much any thing but the largest ships
They also look awful as fuck on any thing other then KT ships
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>>180676450
Why not make it so the player can't buy anything other than hounds while we're at it, don't want them getting their hands on anything more powerful as they progress.
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missiles own. fire 'em early, fire 'em often.
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>>180677001
Without using weapons/fighters that aren't from the mod, DA ships are really good at alpha strikes and rely a lot on wanzer support if you really want them to shine.
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>>180677001

DA are not magic-tier, they're closer to midline-painted-red.

they're a little tricky to use and fit though and when you fuck it up they go down bad since the shields are so small.
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>>180677001
>Think you might had been missing the point. Like Tri-tech ships are brand new and definitely out perform pirates, would that mean Tri-tech ships unbalanced?
Tri tach is vanilla, vanilla cannot be unbalanced.
Mods can be unbalanced though, and the first sign of unbalance is that they can defeat vanilla in a fight

>>180677027
If i knew how to i'd make a mod for that.
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Balance is a meme
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>>180677486
>t. Soren
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>>180677010
I throw some in here and there, the Crucifix MRMs are great, same with the Joyeuse but the other weapons aren't really worth it in most cases.
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>>180677629
oh right I forgot about the missiles those things are fucking scary
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>>180656898
I did what you did and it worked.
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Is there a free download anywhere? I'm interested, but I have basically zero money, and as much as I don't really feel great pirating something I'd like to make sure I'd enjoy it this time. Early Access stuff has burned me too many times.
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>>180680170
yea there is free
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>>180680504
Would you be able to provide some direction? I've checked around in a few sites, and the typical ones either don't have it, went down, or are currently under watch/investigation.
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>>180680694
You can DL it for free here
http://fractalsoftworks.com/preorder/
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>>180680170
you can download it, but you will have to enter a code
I don't know what the other anon is talking about, but if you want it for free you're going to have to edit files and shit
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>>180680694
the igg games site seems fine
If you want to look through archives of this thread you'll see a mega link to it or the crack

>>180680816
free advertisement alex
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>>180681063
And the RNG will know.
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>>180681136
I'm sure that the message it shows is just to make you scared
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>>180681187
It is, but the RNG knows.
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>>180676125
Even the Maelstrom's default loadout can edge out a lot of other capitals in an AI to AI fight. So far I've only found the Mother to be a worse missile nightmare.
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>>180673604
But there are two Diable fleets in the Tournament. One got defeated, but the other soundly won against those Derelicts. What does it means then?
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>>180682746
Then Diable is now unbalanced bullshit
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>>180682746
one is friggin terrible lol
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>>180682746
i don't know,what could POSSIBLY cause two different fleets to perform differently? surely this game has no possible way for two fleets belonging to a faction to have differing strength in different situations!
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what did the losing diable fleet screw up? i only remember the one that was a crushing victory with wanzers and a haze shitting all over everything
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>>180683451
That was sarcasm.
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>>180683071
It gets funnier when you realize that next round that fleet is facing a low tech fleet with SO Mora, SO Lashers and SO Hound... Without any HE weapons.
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>>180684035

lol
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killbot bump
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This ship is so fucking cute, goddamn.
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