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Previous >>180511845

Gas the heretics - Edition

>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628


>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1026

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1018
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1019
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=994

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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>>180593425
Where's her meat sacks?
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dead boring game
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Can someone post screencaps of /y chat? Currently not ingame, can't see it.
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>>180593565
it's dumb
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hm
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>>180593541
burned
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>>180593721
Yes, now please go ahead and post some.
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>>180593565
Swaaz and Voxandra are ERPing. That's all. Before that some dumbass was spamming facebook memes and ironic ERP leading to Swaaz jumping in.
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>>180593892
>Voxandra
Ew
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>>180593892
>voxandra
remember when she posted her ugly fat tits? lol
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>>180594070
did that actually happen? I honestly doubt it
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>>180593892
No wonder the only thing I saw was bane memes,
I blocked that shitter.
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>>180594070
Post them
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what skills should I pick if I'm going c2cleric->c3priest->chap->miko->tao? is that class build even good?

incidentally, why do people only mention the classes when suggesting builds, and not stats, skills, or items?
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>>180593739
Hm.
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>>180594364
I don't like that build because there's no real reason for Chap to be in it; I really think Cleric 2 Diev 3 Miko Taoist is a lot better for supporting. People don't talk about stats, skills, and items because those systems are super straightforward; SPR for summoner/priests, Full Int for non summoner wizards, dex depending on ping and then strength for phys, and Con for full support/pvp memers.
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>>180594793
get ready to be jailed
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>>180594793
what's with cryos showing their panties?
are they all this needy?
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>>180595165
Why?
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>>180593739
nice snowballs
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>keknewal
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>>180595451
lelnewal
ayynewal
lmaonewal
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haven't played this in ages and friend is telling me that the revamp fixed a lot of things, I jumped on and as a sapper my cooldowns are still pretty horrible.

Did I just get shafted on the class selection or did all the cooldown reductions end up being small?
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>>180595640
huenewal
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>>180595651
Cooldowns are still a pretty core part of this game, but generally as you take more class circles you get more skills to fill in the gaps anyways.
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>>180595739
hecknewal
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Renewal!
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>>180595943
p2wnewal
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>>180594959
so then would something like this be good?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112777ih.1a243a5561.11243545.152f3f446175.1125334155.14556175

I just sort of put points into what sounded useful.
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>>180596273
Fixed for you, cutie, now suck me off in game. I'm wetting weet and weet.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112777ih.1a2a345561.11243545.143f415a6a75.11344555.1355617185
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>>180596408
>monstrance 4

never do that
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>>180596581
Literally doesn't matter because the only priest C1 skill that you'll ever use is Resurrection.
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>>180596581
Monstrance is good if you're running a monk
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>>180596806
increases cast animation lock
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>>180597084
>>180596806
the problem is leveling it above 1
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>>180597084
This is true but I don't think the DEX buff scales, so there's no point, really

My archer friends love it, though
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>>180597284
>dex
>on archer
>on anything in itos
kek
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>>180597369
What if DEX also lowered the cooldown on speed of attack skills?
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>>180597284
I tested it and it doesn't scale, not by level at least.
If you're going priest 1 you max res/blessing, you'll only have the option between points in monstrance or aspersion, I just maxed it because I don't want to bother with carrying another item for casting, and because if I ever want aspersion I just go to a pardoner.
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>some rank7 mats, bait and a 300 cardExp card
meeh and took long today again
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>>180597989
You can just go AFK the whole time, right?
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>>180598884
Yes, i did other stuff too. Just buy enough bait at npc but they are cheap.
Had some crash's while fishing, but maybe that is only because test server.
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>>180599042
How lame, I wanted an actual fishing minigame. Instead it'll just be another daily chore.
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>>180599090
Just like afk-crafting...
Thanks MrKim
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Nice
People actually queue for Saalus now
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>>180599286
dude you're poor
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>>180599236
A lot of Korean games do shit like this to inflate their number of online players. BDO has it so you can straight up bot fishing overnight. It's disgusting.
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>>180599340
Just dont know what to play
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I'm making an archer and I have a question, what skills do I choose for ranger?
I only know bounce shot, steady aim, and spiral arrow are the best to max
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31444..1a284f526575
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>>180599872
just b urself
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>>180599470
True. Played some with stuff like that too, even had 4 or more alt accounts gather the whole day+night. Such a lame system.

>>180599286
Yea, i que'd a few days ago too, not bad runs but i guess i carried.
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JINSAE IS HERE OMG OMG WERE BOTH HUNTING DOWN DULLAHAN

WHAT SHOULD I SAY? OMG OMG OMG
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Why are you such a cuck rance?
Just tell dvine to fuck off like the garbage he is since your friendship with him is nonexistent now.

Stop trying to use logic with the retard and just outright shitpost back since no amount of logic will do anything against his autism.
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>>180600843
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>>180599551
just play the game
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>>180601132
Is it 2016 again?

If it is... Kim fix Wugushi!! Oh wait that's now too.
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>>180600843
>>180601132

Is this some blast from the past posting?
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180601132
180600843
is that some weird meme?
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>>180601210
I do tho
working on making another alt again, don't worry about me I got enough silver but I dont really buy anything because no mains
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>>180601210
It's really hard to play this game with no goal. I've been able to craft an orange for two of my classes for a while now, but I just haven't done it. What's the point? If I want to farm, I'd just use the farming classes, neither of which need gear. PvP is AIDS, ET is boring, Saalus doesn't need gear. I just sit here trying to decide whether I just sell all this shit or hold on to it in case I suddenly develop an interest in actually playing.
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>>180601689
yeah you should just try to play the game
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I miss /tosg/ with daily drama and namedrops
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>I've never played pvp properly and I never tried to learn the game

this general
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>>180601957
I can't, I just get bored doing the same thing every day. I don't even need gear to do it, so the gear feels pointless.

>>180602146
I played PvP back before neutrality, but TBL is just a desync mess with shit rewards.
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>tfw some dude just answers a post aimed at you and it looks like its you whos posting
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>>180599872
Please respond.
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>>180602869
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31444.11244555.1f21314f516575
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What dungeon is the best to rush boss?
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>>180603268
260
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>>180603317
Anon please.. i wish.
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So, I've been avoiding looking into forums since I started the game earlier this month but some people have been saying that the exploits being made right now are out of control.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/infinite-party-members-unbreakable-weapon-upgrades-druid-transform-crashing-channels-etc-etc/313564
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/post-for-unbreakable-weapon-upgrade-reports/313697

What do you think about this exploit? It is true? I don't even want to know how it works since I never wanted to keep frying my head over late game numbers but that seems like a pretty big deal that could shape the economy of the game.

I've seen other exploits but they don't affect me personally since I'm not competing in guilds or worldbosses but this one, if it is true, will affect anyone who play this game.
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does the game still stutter like mad
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>>180604135
>July 2016

Are you retarded?
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>>180604207
no joke, yes
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>July 2016
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>>180604207
>>180604335
not for me
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>>180604224
>>180604342

It was the first post it showed me on that board front page. Got so dishearten that I went here to see if there was hope for this game. All is good then.
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>>180604207
Nope.
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>full con pelt 3
>bad equips
>has to carry a whale playing best archer pvp build

and before you start making excuses its all recorded, youre legit trash
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>>180604835
Is this also from 2016?
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>>180593457

i was told not to bother because "its a known bug and people abuse it all the time"

some BR falconer was bug abusing and killing people the second match starts at home base using his falcon. is there actual interest in seeing this?
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>>180605142
I don't want to see one of your webms, they're garbage. All you have to do is fiddle with the settings until it looks decent, it isn't even hard.
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>>180604835
okay post the webm/record you shitlord.
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>>180605142
lol how ironic the next match im against karga and i have it recorded showing him trying to also do the falconer bug abuse to kill before match starts]

such a piece of shit you are
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>>180606178
Can you stop posting? No one cares about the shit minigame.
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>>180606312
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>>180606473
Link me to your youtube channel please. I want to watch the whole thing.
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>>180606178
okay show it you piece of shit i want to watch your filthy lies.
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It seems that someone likes to kick dead dogs, and feel proud of it
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>>180606473
>playign as a girl

gay kys
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>>180607113
Please do not bully Josephine Swaaz.
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ToS Death:

https://forums.warpportal.com/index.php?/topic/214441-ragnarok-online-restart/
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>>180608136
Stop linking this trash here. No one gives a fuck about RO.
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>>180608136
Nobody even played that.
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>>180596408
>>180596273
You will regret Diev3.
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>>180599090
Oddly enough I never thought MapleStory would have fishing but they actually did this right and didn't make it an AFK thing.

>>180608136
Can also either:
A)Enjoy people knowing the big bugs and exploiting the shit outof them
or
B)Everything being actually different because the bugs that literally created economies are gone.

Doubt this will kill ToS but they're obviously just playing off getting what few players there are to be had from RO nostalgia, similar to ToS.

>>180609168
I played the shit out of RO, admittedly not much iRO because it was p2w quite a bit, I played a 1x/1x/1x pServer for 3 years.

Farming smokies, enjoy your fun
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Why are monks just the most terrible people in existence?
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>>180609629
The Monk master is canon wise the most shitty person alive
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>>180609748
What did he do?
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>>180609896
Imagine Christopher Columbus, but with a beard.
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>>180610023
Convinced the royals to let him make the world round and then rape and pillage on the other side of the world but this time using only his bare hands?
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>>180609896
Human traffic, blackmails the ranger master, stole money from the Corsair and SR master, etc...
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>>180609896
Literally runs a slave trade.
Takes out massive loans that he refuses to pay back and claims to have a moral highground about it.
Responsible for every Monk in this game existing, which is by far the greatest crime of all.
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>>180609629
I swear to god, a cleric could contribute absolutely nothing other than laying down heal tiles as fast as cooldown allows and they'd be a greater asset in dungeon runs than monks.
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>>180610324
>>180610385
This game is more interesting than it lets on initially, I want to know more of this.
I heard someone in here say a while ago that the monk master was partly responsible for the disaster that starts off the game.
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>tfw murmillo master is a masochist tank just like Lalatina
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>>180610785
Never heard that one anon, please post it
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Anyone have anything else, either specific or general that they wish to add to this list?

https://pastebin.com/d5pJhNyT
I would also like proposed solutions.
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>>180611168
Add pyro and enchanter to that balance section.

Don't forget the bot epidemic.
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>>180611602
Latest kTest gimped pyros even more sadly. Limiting fireballs out is a very large annoyance, same thing with owls to be honest.

Sure Miko+Owl+Chrono would have been wild, but that's al ot of investment and limiting it at 5 is WAY too harsh. If they limited at 15 or 20 it would make it barely worth usually doing it, but at least still a cool mechanic. It's very bothersome that they overreact when they nerf a lot of this stuff.

Why nerf amount of fireballs out if they already can only do 1hit and scale NOWHERE near as good as they did before because of it? Pretty bad stuff.

Anyway, added to list. I've got an Enchanter and it feels terrible, it's fun to play, but it's underwhelming for all stat points past the first 5.
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>>180611168
most archers are ok though.
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>>180611830
>Why nerf amount of fireballs out if they already can only do 1hit and scale NOWHERE near as good as they did before because of it? Pretty bad stuff.

And let's not forget they fucking made a class that may as well have been called "MORE FIREBALLS" before deciding to ruin everything.

Why did IMC suddenly get a hateboner for deployments
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>>180611168
Dont bother putting that shitlist in the thread
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>>180611168
>>180611830
You do not really or seriously hope/expect that to do anything, right?
But.. have fun.
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>>180611168
Players placing their shops on statues and NPCs.

Sorc's summon not having the same target as the player when using Riding.

Market UI is horrible, it needs more filter options.

Too much wait for costumes that have been released a long time ago in kTOS.
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>>180612116
Nope, but I'd rather have a good list as reference for when other people ask me about the issues with the game as well. I'll be whittling down the list to something better over time, this is just for starters.
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>>180612169
>The wait for costumes is the problem
>Not the costumes themselves
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>>180611914
Well I think it's a synergy thing or something.

Let's take SR3 for example, it doesn't have particularly 'good' synergy with anything, it's mainly just filler.
Archer2 is good because of crit rate, Archer 3 isn't going to help much more there. Oblique until Limacon:Spread won't help because of OH on it now.
Out of R2 choices QS doesn't do shit once you hit SR3, literally dead weight 3 circles
Ranger3 is okay but not amazing, you gain 20% damage which is good buti t's 10/25s, annoying. You gain a little AoE, but who cares when you're running around with Limacon.
R3:
Hunter isn't even possible really.
Sapper means dismounting means uncasting Limacon, so that's also a no.

Out of the 5 choices ofthings you can 3 circle leading into SR, 1 is actually helpful in the slightest, the others are dead weight, and one is great at 2C but useless past that, and you can get that second circle without the other 3.

Mindyou other R6/R7 are a bit more flexible. Falconer is very flexible, Hackapell is quite flexible. Musketeer is. Canonneer has some nice synergy which makes it a little less flexible but that's a good thing. Mergen clearly won't work with 1H classes, but that's also fine.
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>>180612059
Because deployments were OP as fuck for pretty much the entirety of pre-renewal due to lasting too long and hitting too many times.
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>>180614486
Doesnt archer 3 get more swiftstep speed
thats pretty helpful for SR
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>>180614526
All of the faces in the picture bother me, but the girl especially.
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>>180614721
Yeah but like, a whole rank for that.
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>>180608136
No, ToS death is and will be FFXIV Shillblood
Every day more people migrate from ToS to it
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>>180615362
Go away katz
Even us retards know better than to pay for that shit
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>>180614998
I think the depressed autism faces are cute
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>>180615325
nothing else is really good for farmbot
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>>180615520
Whenever I see art like that I always get the feeling in my mind that the face is broken, it's like the forehead didn't have enough space so it went and pushed the actual face apart.
It bugs me
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What are the chances we ever get another reset event?

>tfw want to kill bad lvl 317 builds
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Coffee is recruiting!
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>>180618780
>shaved pussy
meh
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>>180618780
she is going to catch a cold like this...
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>>180614592
And having all the bosses in the 300+ content jump around the place like a jackrabbit on crack wasn't enough of an offset?
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>>180614592
>Because deployments were OP as fuck
>90% of the bosses have jumping/teleport behind you/engage FTL jumping/etc
>100% of the bosses have KNOCKBACK ATTACK EVERY 0,1 SECOND SPAM
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>>180618924
>Doesn't have a problem with the shaved legs or shaved armpits
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>>180620937
Smooth armpits are better, legs are whatever, pussy needs some hair
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do people queue for missions besides siaulai?
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>>180621026
It's all equally gross, my man.
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Where to farm as a horrible, horrible 325 doppelsoldner?
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>>180621369
no
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>>180621557
>doppel
>farm
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Corsair3 Fencer or Doppel?
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finally caught a golden mob that exploded into 1.5 million and it was great. they need to go full on d3 treasure goblins with this shit.
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>>180621557
>doppel

LOL
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>When the same hackapell crashes the 290 dungeon again after he done it twice before yesterday
>Even warned him not to do it
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> #TreeofSavior on twitter: garbage memes, forum-tier
> #ToSJP : cute oc artwork and screenshots
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>>180621557
>doppel
>farm
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is multishot still good?
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>>180629734
>twitter
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Are leather bangles realistically farmable?
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>Spear Throw - Damage scale with distance thrown, with maximum of being 2x.
>Long Stride - Overheat 3

OK, I'm Hoplite 3, but that's more for Stabbing, Finestra and definitely not for the ultra nerfed throw and long stride. How does it fix any problem? Long Stride knocks everything back, Spear Throw was spammed on top of you so you didn't need to pick the spear up or bother mobbing them again, which is already a symptom of having 5 fucking overheat.

Is it for PvP? Really sounds like something people would go nuts about, but for PvE it's something I really don't care.
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how do I find a good goy RMTer to sell my lolo weapon to?
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Just hit lvl 100, is there a lvl 100 dungeon or am I better farming the lvl 80 one for exp? as far as I know the lvl 100 dungeon located in fediman is a bossa only dungeon or what?
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>>180633806
Use /indun to find out about this stuff.

Also what you are talking about are missions, they are localized at Fedimian top right corner, over the stairs and close to the Quarrel Shooter master and the Swordsman master.

They give a pretty good EXP and scale with your level.
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>>180633876
but do they use dungeon instances?
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>>180633876
also
>Use /indun to find out about this stuff.
What?
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>>180633923
no, they have a separate counter only for request center missions
>>180633980
it's a command that opens up the instanced dungeon interface
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>>180633923
No, they are a different type of dungeon. The /indun shows what shares the same entrance limit. They have a 3 daily runs limit too.
>>180633980
Say "/indun" in game, it will open a menu.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112237ee.1a213a435561.15213a42556295.11253544.11253544.2a31415a617582
Good support?
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>>180634457
Seems like you want to go every 'good' support cleric skill but not exceed at anything. While there is nothing wrong with that, supportslutting without a really strong reason to be brought is pretty dangerous imo.
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>>180614592
By all means, solo Salad Canyon with nothing but these OP deployments.
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>>180634618
Well shit, I haven't played cleric before so not much idea on what's worthwhile.
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>>180634714
I also run clerics but most of the time they are focused on something rather than try to underperform every cleric task.

I dunno, if you still want to run that build, you should remove points from Aspersio and Sacrament in favor of Revive and Ressurection.
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>>180634943
Thanks.
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What Inquisitor skills I should get? I'm a Chaplain > Inquisitor.
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>>180611168
>Leveling is too fast
What the fuck.
No one is forcing you to do dungeon with x8 tomes and multiply tokens instead of just questing
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what gem for manamana? red?
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>>180637805
yes.
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>finally get a manamana crafted
>used up all potential ending with +9
>forgot to add socket

im retarded
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>>180638175
>my mana mana and blue HG weapon get to +11 with all their potential
>my orange pract weapon gets to +7 with 0 potential

GREAT GAME KIM
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>>180638175
Have this to cheer you up.
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>>180638404
disgusting
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>>180638404
Gross, delete.
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>>180638404
>>180638462
>>180638483
make dragoons great again!
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where to do the dragoon kill 1000 enemies fastest, im 243
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>>180638960
vedas plateau? 22pts each kill
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So, in case someone wanted to change job on rank 7; you have to buy a stat reset potion, a skill reset potion and a rank reset potion?
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>>180639075
OK DONE

now what skills for r7 dragoon for r7 lancer? I was thinking dragon soar is the one to skip right?
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>>180639384
>a rank reset potion
Doesn't exist anymore
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>>180639613
so if i wanted to change from miko to cleric 3 it's impossible?
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>>180639851
Currently yes
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>didn't play for 2 days
>have no desire to
I'm detoxing and it feels great
I don't care that my token is expiring and I didn't do my 22 saalus runs and 4 solmiki runs

I might be free, I'll report tomorrow how it goes
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>>180639921
>22 saalus runs and 4 solmiki runs
No wonder you don't want to play, you've turned the game into a daily work.
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>>180640071
I love games where I can resource gather and progress towards a big goal, like city building games.

I treat MMO's the same. I don't go too try hard (aka pay2win), but I use everything in my power to move forward. 6 to 8 hours a day on a game is nothing to me, but the problem with TOS is that it doesn't present new challenges. Like a simulation game / RTS game / war strategy game would. It presents the same mundane task every day, over and over again. Biggest challenge in TOS for me is dealing with people, who act and talk like NPCs.

TOS has run dry for me. I'm sorry if this insults you personally that someone doesn't like your favorite MMO.
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I feel like this necro build I saw shouldn't be trusted:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213336999.1521354351.2f3f54617585.156575.253e4161718895a5b5
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>>180640508
>that cryo distribution
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>>180640508
build is fine, skill distribution is suck
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>>180636882
Doing quests is too fast too. Exp cards should just be dropped by enemies and from map exploration and kill counts. Questing just contributes to just killing a few enemies and then leaving a map forever.
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any point in giving lvl 10 cards more exp?
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>>180641345
>you should take a year to reach max level
Fuck off then, this is not the game for you.
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>>180641361
No
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>>180641407
There are no good MMOs to go to. I hope R9's cap is like 550.
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>>180640421
>present new challenges. Like a simulation game / RTS game / war strategy game would.
Those only present new challenges with PVP so you should just go PVP. Otherwise war games and RTS are absolutely prone to falling into doing the same thing to win. Simulation games probably too but I'm not sure what you mean by them.
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>>180641492
>I like an abysmal sense of progression so everyone else should too
Just limit yourself and don't use as much cards because you're by and far the exception.
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Do people buy Skullsmasher recipe off the market in Klapedo?

I literally just pulled one off my 2nd random cardboard box.
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>>180642189
Yeah because doing ET twice a day for 20 years is way better
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If I buy askill reset potion will I be able to redistribute all my skill points or just the current rank ones?
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>>180642189
>using cards past 60

The only time one really would use a card is when they want to get to 50 and sometimes 70 to hit that 80 sweet spot for the next dungeon. Other than that 80~140 is easy with just daily dungeons then 150~170 can be grinded in under 3 hours at demon then 170~330 are basically daily dungeons. No card needed.
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>>180642463
All your skill points.
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>>180642189
Levelling to max in a few days isn't a sense of progression, it's skipping the game to do nothing.
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Which of the Kabbalist skills is the one you use to get the number to clone Yellow Caros and what level do you need of it?
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>>180642775
nice.
for stats you need another reset item?
Cause I wanted to go Inquisitor and I'm full SPR, don't know if it's good or not
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>>180642853
brain problems?
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>>180642921
Full SPR is fine if you are chaplain. Or priest 3 at least.
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>>180642791
please show me how, kinda struggling without paying
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>>180643080
I am.
Speaking of chaplain, anyone knows if it's worth to spend 5 points into the CAppella thing instead of exorcism? Seems like a luxury skill that doesn't bring anything to the game except for maybe 5 seconds of recast time reduction
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>>180643119
Eh just run daily dungeons. What level is your character? Also do map 100% exploration since those really help a lot.
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bots are very lucky lmao
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>>180643528
considering they're probably opening thousands of silver cubes from stolen credit cards, I doubt they're lucky, just opening a fuckload of them
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>>180643361
121, ended the daily instances for dungeon/mercenary missions
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>>180643219
Exorcism is fucking garbage you shouldn't even have it in your Priest skills to be able to use Magnus exorcism.
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>>180643869
Grinding guide.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/xans-leveling-guide/312775

With how this game is now grinding is stupid easy.
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>>180642791
Extremes are always bad. Leveling to max in 300 days isn't a sense of progression either, it'd be a game of nothing, just as some would say being maxed is a game of nothing. And both are easily managed by choosing your own gameplay pace.

It's subjective what your idea of progression can be, but you do not gain anything in ToS at all from staying one level for a long time. The faster you level the more skill points you unlock and have access to stronger weapons and dungeons.

For comparison, shortly after the game launched, levels 220+ were only grinding over very long periods of time, and levels 130-180 could be a dead stop for players who mismanaged exp. The majority of people hated this, so IMC eventually added more quests, and later reordered dungeons.

Compensation and new account bonuses greatly upset the balance, but the sidekick event wouldn't be too bad normally.
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>>180643954
but you need to have exorcism for magnus right?
I was thinking of doing this build
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c11g.1f2f31586175.1f213f4551627591.153545.41657485

But someone suggested this one is better cause you'll only ever need auto attack to kill shit
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111222cg.1f293a5a61.1f3f4351619a.152545.456585
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>>180643954
>she never put more than one point in it
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>>180644085
outdated
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>>180643054

There's 2 number skills and I don't want to waste points in the one that's useless for Caros.
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>>180644239
>>180643869
go do some quests in the areas to the east of fedi, and also do mage tower
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>>180644239
It still works actually. But your call if you think that it's outdated.
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>>180644258
You can't use one without the other you drooling retarded sack of stupid shit. And you don't level either of them past 1 because why the fuck would you?
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>>180644531

There's 2 skills to calculate a new number so you clearly didn't understand what I was asking, but you seem way too angry so nevermind you sperg.
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>>180640421
You sound like a pretentious fuckwad. Fuck you.
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>>180644283
what's special about mage tower?
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>>180644753
Can you not read the tooltips on the fucking skills? Are you really that fucking stupid?
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>>180644113
>it'd be a game of nothing
It'd be a proper MMORPG where you got to know people while leveling and there was a point to bothering to get new equipment at times other than max level. MMORPGs are long term games, not monthly things you chug through in an afternoon, get all achievements, and then put away.

Furthermore, you can do everything the game has to offer without being max level.

>The majority of people hated this
The majority of people whined before making it to the level 90 dungeon.
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>>180644936
the quests there give okay xp in form of cards and also you get stat points for completing the whole chain so you should do it anyway
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>>180645072

Clearly you don't even know what I'm talking about. Just stop.
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>>180645742
You just get 1 point in each
You're not actually to plan on only farming yellow caros for the rest of your life are you?
Its not like Kabba has lots of good spells to save points for
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>>180645857

That's what this character is strictly for. Thanks.
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So my friend convinced me to try ToS. I did play to about 100 on release but the games performance was just too shitty, and being stuck on a non pre purchase or whatever it was.called server meant plagued with bots.


Coming back I got the new player pack thing and after a few days now I'm 250ish and it's just like, what the point. The dungeons are not challenging yet they lock you out for only two runs a day, why?
Why not just make a guaranteed cube only 2x a day or something then make the next cubes be at like 20% drop so it averages out at about one per group.
Going back to questing feels like an entire waste of time, there's nothing afaik I can work towards of any significance. Don't feel the incentive to farm because I'm still locked out of trading Post for a few days anyway.

Better just log off and wait for my dungeon reset to make the most of my boots right?
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good elememe?
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>>180646290
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.1e213f657585.1f3f41586185.1a283a4151
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>>180646358
>>180646290
It's blowing my mind that people can fuck up the most played build in the game.
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>>180646290
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.2f3f657585.1e3f4158617185.1a28314a51
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>>180645129
Then you know it yourself, that's not how MMOs are anymore.

Companies can't ignore the majority of how players, not limited to MMO fans, are now, in that they will lose interest quickly and have a million other MMOs they could jump to. That's substantial playerbase and profits lost, even if they were to drop 30 bucks and quit a month later, it adds up.

More people solo quests than form random parties, and instanced dungeons are more likely to encourage random friendships. Midgame leveling pacing always greatly differs between players due to their own schedules, and anyone you get to know might not be in it for the long run anyways.

Endgame dungeons are where people catch up in pace and can run into others often enough to get to know them well. Early R8's difficulty was actually enough to encourage random parties, but IMC catered to solo players because again, that's how the MMO market is now.
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>>180646498
what's wrong about the build?
Never played a mage before
also, this one is better?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.2f3f657585.1e3f4158617185.1a28314a51
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>>180646751
>Companies can't ignore the majority of how players, not limited to MMO fans, are now, in that they will lose interest quickly and have a million other MMOs they could jump to. That's substantial playerbase and profits lost, even if they were to drop 30 bucks and quit a month later, it adds up.

TOS already missed that boat when they caved on the 3 month EA plan and then didn't have anything for 50k concurrent players to buy when the game opened. The remaining base needs something to do before they leave too.
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>tfw lazy
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>>180647017
Yeah do that one
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>>180647174
Oh yeah, well I'm so lazy that I haven't done ET, Saalus, a mission, or a dungeon in months.
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>>180647017
Energy Bolt is shit.
Max Sleep+Lethargy instead.
Max Hail, maybe Elect or 14. Max Meteor is not worth it.
Other looks ok.
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>>180647039
Well, IMC already got all that early access money regardless, but looking at how things are now, well.
http://steamcharts.com/app/372000
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>>180647465
full INT?
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>>180646289
>>180646289
>>180646289
>>180646289
To add to this

Where can I find for endgame gears to work towards/

Theres 'build' advice everywhere here and all over the ToS forums but so little info about gear
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>>180647763
Yes
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>>180647465
So 8/10 meteor is ok? Or should i go 1/10 and invest the other 7 point in..?
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>>180647465
How come all the new forum builds have EB 15?
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>>180647858
1 is a little low, small AoE area, i have it at 5 now, still fast cast and bigger. Maybe i reset it to 8 later. Prom is nice too but does not have very good scaling (compared to meteor at least)
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>>180647994
Forum niggas are retarded.
Even if it does good dmg.. you literally need no attacks skills at low lvls, its no/nogood aoe anyways, and later you got better skills and dont use it anymore.
Max Sleep+Lethargy (and quickcast,surespell) are way better than a "little stronger autoattack" which you never use later.
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>>180647994
>forum builds
avoid people who barely plays the game and test shit like forumniggers, max lethargy instead
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>>180647465
>Energy Bolt is shit.
>insta cast low cd 200%~x2 skill is bad
Lethargy is a bad meme, it hardly reduce bosses damage and on normal mobs is useless.

>>180648173
>later you got better skills and dont use it anymore
Wrong, there's always room for it since shooting all bolts take less than a second.
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Anyone with a sapper3falcon3 can tell me what you like/dislike of the class?

Also is the attribute for circling needed to get a feel for the class or can I just level it to 317 and without much gear I'll know if I like it or not
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>>180648247
It is bad. Its no aoe and you got a dozen better skills to use.
The scaling of it 1vs15 is also shit.
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>>180648247
Yes I love when faggots use Energy Bolt because it desyncs the monsters and make them impossible to use melee skills on.
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>>180648382
>you got a dozen better skills to use
With far higher cooldown compared to it.

>The scaling of it 1vs15 is also shit.
Lethargy is a bigger shit, only good for the strike % damage.

>>180648432
>melee
Who cares about you
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You should max both electrocute and meteor.

Electrocute in ET gains 1 extra target with divine might and will soon have 2 overcharges.

Meteor level 10 is a giant area and will also have 2 overcharges in the future.

Quick cast is bugged in our game as it does not increase the cast time of the actual skill levels, just the cast bar right now (which is just graphical), so don't believe anons telling you here that it's not worth maxing because it "takes too long". They are idiots.
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>>180648494
Yeah it's totally worth using a skill that makes instances slower because it makes your personal DPS look better! Oh wait no it just makes you look like a moron that wasted skill points.
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>>180648494
>Lethargy is a bigger shit
nope, it has good scaling

>>180648530
>Quick cast is bugged
often works for me and will be fixed at some point
Meteor 8 or 10 isnt a big diff
But Elect15 is good
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>>180648530
>Electrocute in ET gains 1 extra target with divine might and will soon have 2 overcharges.
Correct
>Meteor level 10 is a giant area
8 and 10 have the same aoe size.
You can skip Rain and get 9/10 Meteor but Prominence is too good to pass.

>>180648774
>it has good scaling
Go fight a relevant boss and post damage with and without Lethargy.
It's hardly even noticeable.
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>>180648890
>relevant content
>in tos

kek, only thing relevant in this game is how fast you can farm orange mats
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>>180648890
-800(or more) Attack is still better then 174% EB
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>>180648648

It helps when you're one of the primary DPS on the check floors in ET as well as the boss floors. Even with good passing you're going to have all of your skills on cooldown at points and EB is great filler. It also helps your DPS against saalus bosses.

Lethargy makes a very small difference. I honestly don't notice a difference between 4 and like, 10.

is this shit going to be the next bash
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>>180649158
Did you even try to test how much that -800% affect bosses?
Of course you didn't
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>>180646290
where do I get this mod
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>not sleeping the target before energy bolt on 11 linked shitters with linker 3 for massive 800k energy bolts
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>>180649348
>using hacks to sleep a boss
See you soon L***co K****berg
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>>180649340
Sorry

Someone said the source link was dead in a previous thread.
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>>180649197
I use lethargy on saluus bosses, makes them hit like 200-300 instead of over 1000
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>>180649197
Yeah I also don't wear armor because I don't even notice about 1000 extra damage. I don't wear my weapon either because that's only a couple of thousand damage. I don't even level my skills past 1 because it's only a couple of thousand damage bro.
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Been a year since I played this.

What changed?
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>>180649830

This method of exaggerating unrelated things only proves that you're a retard.

>>180649549

You don't not get it, you just don't invest heavily into it.

Does it honestly even fucking matter? This really is bash all over again.
>>
I currently have a mage character (dps)
A cleric support that i'd like to set into inquisitor (support)
which should my last slot be? kinda wanted to go archer3scout3reiter1mergen1 or swordmaster (but aren't they shit or what?)
The cleric is currently at cle3priest3chap1, Is inqui a good support build that can solo/dps too?
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>>180650127
>LEVEL MY SHIT SKILL FUCK OFF AND STOP ARGUING PLZ IM NOT WRONG IT CANT BE POSSIBLE
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>>180647780
If you're in the 250 range you can try to farm for armor in the 220 Hunting Ground. Depends on class really, some of these sets can fetch a good price in the market because they have very good bonus stats.

Once you get to 270 you can start farming the HG in Grynas Hills for 270+ sets and weapons.
These weapons are good enough to carry you through most things until you want to invest on Practonium 315 gear.
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>>180650053
Necros and Sorc got buffed and they ae getting more
IMC made 2 events designed to level up new accounts at speed of light
Now Necros are more aggressive and can afk farm virtually everywhere, when new skelly buffsa will come from korea they will afk farm in 310+ maps too without problems

Everything else is pretty much the same shit
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>>180650256

I don't care what you level. If you want Lethargy go get it. It makes basically no difference. I was just sharing that in my experience Energy Bolt is better.
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>>180650320
How is the PvP scene? Everyone claimed it was non-existant then.
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>>180650229
can you stop posting please
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>>180650414
PvP has been fully removed from the game
Only shit TBL is left
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>>180650436
first post of today m8, stop being angry
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>>180649197
>>180650352
you're really fucking stupid if you can't notice the obvious reason to why you should max it
and just shows how you actually never tested or even had it past muh memestrike passive
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>>180650414
Neutrality still a thing
GBL was patched out months ago, last GvG was around February
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>>180650053
Significant optimization improvements, complete stat and skill reworks, new ways of getting gear, rank 8, buncha events, etc.

Ignore this guy >>180650320 he really hates afk farmers and complains every general. It's a problem but definitely not what you should concern yourself with after not playing for a year.

>>180650229
>Mage dps
>Swordies being shit
Speaking of a year ago. You lookin at outdated guides or worse, tosbase or something?
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>>180650579

Ok, explain to me Elememe expert. Why should I max Lethargy (to make bosses hit less hard) instead of improving my dps (to kill bosses faster) on a DPS class?

No Warlock I've ever seen maxes it. No one I know that ETs on a Warlock maxes it. I don't even see the Koreans max it. What do you know that they don't know?
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>>180649451
There's a bunch of seperate mods. I don't know if that one is dead.

>>180649340
Look through here
https://itest.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mmosaloon/1480673538/l50

Here's the image http://imgur.com/a/kBXRD
Also bonus http://i.imgur.com/t7s4GUV.gif
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>>180650539
you've been spamming this retarded question for 3 threads now
>>
What classes should I avoid heavily?
>>
doppels?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq3TwErqKb8
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>>180650696
well, what are mages then.. support?
The thing is that I can't find new guides except from the advices you guys give on here
>>180650815
Dunno what you're talking about
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>>180650860
Mages
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>>180650812
Nude mods are so fucking gay and disgusting. I will never understand the point of them.
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>>180650696
>mages
>not dps
You lookin at outdated guides or worse, tosbase or something?
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>>180650897
keep posting it, keep posting it over and over
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>>180650954
>seeing naked women is gay
You okay? Some repressed feelings or something?
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>>180650897
>y-you can't clear ET 40F without AoE DPS!!!
- /tosg/
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>>180650954
nips require pixelated titties to survive or else the radiation leaks out
>>
I just found 7 netherbovine and monarch cards on my, soon I'll be the richest person in /tosg/!
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>>180651082
>ugly ass 2d sprite
>woman

That's not what I'm talking about though, I don't understand why you'd mod a game to be nude instead of just watching porn that actually looks good?
>>
is this a good inquisitor build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111222cg.1f293a5a61.1f3f4351619a.152545.456585
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>>180651265
Why the fuck not, maybe I like playing with a constant errection or something
It's not about the sprite being ugly either, its more of a concept of sluttyness

Also porn is for literal cucks watching other men fuck women lol
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>>180650908
>>180650979
Specifically the phrase combo of "mage dps + shit swordies" is reminiscent of a year ago. I shoulda clarified that I didn't mean to imply mages are bad dps, although some wizard classes did get knocked down a lot in terms of dps.
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>>180651265
>2d sprite
Play the game.
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>>180651407
No
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>>180650734
>No Warlock I've ever seen maxes it. No one I know that ETs on a Warlock maxes it. I don't even see the Koreans max it.
sure buddy
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>>180651265
>why you'd mod a game to be nude instead of just watching porn that actually looks good?
Like SFM?
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>>180651446
How do you even get an erection to this game? How fucking pathetic and repressed are you?
>>
If anything in this game was actually threatening, lethargy would be an easy max skill because dying means you do 0 damage. This isn't the case so lethargy is objectively bad right now.
I still max it.
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>>180651461
this better?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c11g.1f2f31586175.1f213f4551627591.153545.41657485
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>>180651612
I get errections all the time for no reason, seeing some ToS moeblob with her nipples poke out and looking slutty like a whore makes it easy
Sorry you're so low test you need porn to get hard ons lmao
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>>180651650
>>180651407
>>180650539
>>180650229
Why are you still posting? Your question got answered last thread. Shut the fuck up and just play the game.
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>>180651761
>I get errections all the time for no reason
You must be over 18 to use this image board
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>>180651761
>pol memes xd
Fuck off retard.
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>>180651567
>SFM porn
I never understood how anyone could like this shit, it's always so jaggy and unsmooth.
Maya is where it's at.
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>>180651650
Cure 15 is a waste if you're going SPR, add more into SZ, like 10 cure 5 SZ and it's decent
>>
modding games for pornography all the time is stupid, your character walking around naked is something ultra retarded.

use your nudity mods for special fap moments, preferable for single players rpgs, like skyrim together with sexlab or any other sex mods, kek

Also, someone else having problems with the captcha? fucking almost impossible missions
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>>180651823
I'm 26 you dumb bitch
>>180651872
What's a pol meme? low test is a /fit/ meme
and its not even a meme either if you got high test you have often errections for no reason
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What's the best Corsair build that doesn't use Shinobi?
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>>180651932
>i use a +0 weapon
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>>180651782
it didn't.
One guy kept telling that there is no use in skilling up exorcism, that god smash was no use since you'll do more damage with autos and that you needed max mass heal.
The other kept telling that exorcism>magnus was the way to go,to max god smash, to only keep 1 point in pear of anguish cause reasons and mass heal wasn't needed
They kept on fighting and no one seemed to give an answer supporting one or the other choice except from "muh build is better, you're shit".
And then there was the SZ question, when everyone got a different opinion. So no I didn't get an answer
>>180651932
why is it a waste if going full SPR?
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>>180652014
>if you got high test you have erections for no reason
You obviously know nothing about human anatomy.
>I'm 26 U BIG MEANIE HEAD
Then why do you type like you're 12? Just fuck off you pathetic faggot.
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>>180652140

Welcome to this general. The people that don't play the game actively try to misinfo people that do. You're never going to get a good answer here so I suggest you look elsewhere.
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>>180652140
JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME THEN AND TRY IT FOR YOURSELF THEN YOU FUCKING NIGGER. IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR 4CHAN TO COME TO A CONSENSUS YOU'LL BE WAITING A LONG ASS TIME YOU DUMB FUCK.
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>>180652263
tried to look on the forums, different build there too
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>>180652016
Taking Fencer1 instead of Shinobi.
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>>180652224
You dont know anything about human anatomy my man, do some research or keep it shut

Also where was I typing like I'm 12 before I insulted the guy who accused me of being under 18? Point that one out to me you whiny baby
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>>180652321
NO CAUSE THEN I'LL HAVE TO SPEND SHEKELS TO RESET A CHARACTER YOU FAG
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>>180652418
Thanks. Would Sword3 Barb Cor3 Fencer be okay?
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>>180614592
Oh boy they hit too many times and last too long and you can have too many of them out. Let's nerf one of these things, then two of these things.

Shouldn't we just change the way it works because it sucks now?! Nah, fuck that.
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>>180652516
>make a claim with no supporting evidence
>get mad when I make the same claim to you with no supporting evidence
Wow its almost like you're a hypocritical baby who can't argue
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New interested players attention please

Game is still fine, it's slowly dying like all korean trash but will last atleast another year
Play on the server closer to you, ignore "X is dead" "Roll on Y, ping doesn't matter".
Ignore the shitposting about the guilds, all of them are fine, well Kotastu and CoffeeHouse might be smaller than NA guilds just because 90% of /tosg/ plays on Klaipeda, SA and SEA guilds just filled themself with outsiders and reddit
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>>180652447
Yeah, I stopped playing this game entirely because I might have to reset my character if I misplace a single skill point. I leveled to 330 on 6 characters and I never put in a single skill or stat point or picked any circles because I might have to reset someday. I'm just going to keep leveling as they release new content until they finish making the game, and then when everything is settled I might add some skill points so that I can finally know for sure that I'm playing the best meta character I can possibly play.
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>>180652336
>>180652263
gotta wait till some shitposter gtfo
there is legit info here sometimes. or ask people ingame/inguild
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>>180652575
Yes, even better than the Shinobi option if you plan on mostly/purely farming.
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>>180652698
well, what are you gonna do, play on dead south american servers?
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>>180636882
The disparity between leveling types and money that can be made at higher levels, as well as the Pract quest means that if you are grinding or questing you will take a lot LOT longer to get to 317 than if you are dungeon running. The fact that you can 317 a character in a day with some of these recent events is absurd.

If we're talking a week with all sorts of stacked buffs that's acceptable, but a day is a bit much.

The art assets are wasted if there's no reason to come back to lower level areas other than a scant few like BB farming (which isn't even profitable right now really)
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>>180652757
That's exactly what I wanted it for. Thank you for the help, anon.
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>>180652709
It's almost like there's no completely optimized build and it's entirely based on player preference.
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>>180652837
Silute is everything but dead, it's the most alive server right now
The official ramking of alive is
Silute
Telsiai
Varena
Klaipeda
(powergap)
Fedimian
Orsha

These are facts
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Are rogue and sapper both shit
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>>180653001
There's no powergap between Klaip and Fedi
But theres a massive powergap between orsha and all other servers
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>>180652838
>but a day is a bit much.
You can only in a day by spamming a ton of premium stuff.
Once these events stops people won't be able to do it anymore, at least not for free.
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klaipeda was a mistake
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>>180653001
any way to change server without having to restart al over again?
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>>180652078
>Cure as a "dps" method when he's already going Chaplain Inquisitor

>>180652140
Cure has a good scaling with INT and since you have guardian saint, you wanna have more blocks in your safety zone to survive or be able to take more hits
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>>180653039
>There's no powergap between Klaip and Fedi
There is, not a big one but Fedimian is a lot more on life support than Klai
Orsha is just why the fuck is still a thing tier of server
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>>180653181
no, stay in your shithole
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>>180653078
Stop doing mistakes stupid anon.
It was fine for many tho
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>>180653242
for who? for the dead people who already quit?

lol
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>>180653184
Its really hard to tell, their market and town channels at peak time are almost identical to ours

So I wouldnt say its a powergap
Orsha is certified dead though

t. someone who made alts on every server to check market for curiosity
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>>180653078
why?
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>>180653184
>Fedimian is a lot more on life support than Klai
I fucking wish.
I can't farm any dpk without stumbling on some subhuman SR
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>>180653183
Guardian Saint reduces the damage you take by 50%, come on man at least play the game. It doesn't even take a second to drop a Cure tile, and the difference between level 10 and level 15 cure is 10 hits of 103% magic damage, OVER 1000% DAMAGE BEFORE ATTRIBUTES.
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>>180653283
No, for many people who still play on it.

>>180653181
Nope
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>>180653309
dead server
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>>180653051
You're 100% right it's reliant on events.

We're in a very weird place where the base game does need to change a bit, in particular it needs to be a little easier to level by grinding, so that it almost matches questing (Easy solution is to make grinding areas have mobs drop level relevant Exp cards at an uncommon rate), yet whenever there's an event it almost trivializes leveling. The free leaf penguin+stamina event if you're lucky is enough to get you to the 200s in a day on a freshie account.

It's clear they know that leveling/dungeon running is a bit of a chore, it was a smart idea at first, but the dungeons being static can make it a drag after some time, and in a game that highly prioritizes alts, having only one main way of leveling sucks. Lvl 50 dungeon did it right where the queue time is low enough usually, it's not some shitfest, it can be rushed, and you can finish your 2-3 runs in 10-20minutes then go farming/questing.

Some of the later dungeons, you can queue for 10+ minutes, even if you choose '2-4' I swear to god that thing will wait 10minutes before it lets you in if you ALL checked even.
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>>180653360
It's dead by tosg stardard
How many anons are actually in the local guild there?
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>>180653183
>Cure has good scaling with INT
How long has it been since you've played the game? Everything except buffs/debuffs scale with Magic/Physical attack now.
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>>180653390
I started playing last week, seems like there are still lots of people.
SHould I change to?
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I fucked up when i was making my elememe and invested a point on earthquake instead of lethargy
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>>180653509
Do it now before it's too late.
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>>180653509
No, dont listen to people using the "dead server" meme. They lie and probably dont play the game anymore for a long time.

Do what you want. Do what you like.
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>>180653509
Probably not, Klaipeda should be a lot more active than Orsha but I'm not sure as far as the guild goes.

If you do play on Orsha though I'll help you out, though I'm not in a /tosg/ guild.
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where are the waifus
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>>180653602
fug time to reroll boi, this game is too difficult to have a single skill or stat point out of place
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6j9W12qNk

>- World message is output 10 minutes before the upper boss is created .
>Ex) " After a while Field Boss comes up : Majors Mirthis "

That's very nice. We won't need to camp to get field boss times anymore. Since there's more people playing, bosses will be heavily contested and will be defeated in a couple of minutes.
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>>180653602
>1 point
No problem.
>>180653707
Hehehe but no.
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>>180653770
Why would I do a world boss when I already have Sissels? It's like doing 315HG when you already have a pract weapon, worthless.
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>>180653903
Get this dude, you can get a drop and then sell it for SILVER
Silver my dude, you know what you can do with silver?
You should know dude...
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>>180653903
To sell them.
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>>180654030
Woah upgrade my attributes to 100? That's almost a 0.6 overall DPS upgrade from them being at 80! I'll just keep ignoring this game until they come out with something meaningful.
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>>180653038
pls advice
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>>180653903
>xe doesn't know
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>>180654139
just b urself, don't worry about the "meta" in this game of literally 1000 players spread throughout 6 servers
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>>180654113
>I have 80 attributes on everything, trans 10 weapon and all the gear I could want
See you in r9 I guess?
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>>180654139
Sapper is one of the strongest archer classes.

Rogues is ok but needs a ton of investment to buy Werewolf Cards and even then not having Glass Moles suck.
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>>180654304
kek not if lucha and matador are the swordie classes
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>>180650897
>stage 10, +24 korean murmillo bursts something to death in ET with a stage 10 cryo's walls nearby
>a retard on /tosg/ connects this to doppels
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>>180653360
I've noticed that other servers' players tend to do a lot more "meta build farming" while I commonly see players on Klai simply farming with whatever their main is and relying on their trans weapon to kill things fast.
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>>180654736
can you not post things that just show how shitty and p2w this game is please?
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>>180654736
t. doppelcuck
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>>180651102
I'm pretty sure it's been said over and over literally any trash class can clear anything if they're a whale.
That fact is omitted since obviously no one in tosg is even close to having that kind of gear, attributes, etc.
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>>180654994
lmao doppelcuck easily baited by a video
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>>180655076
t. retardcuck
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>>180650320

tree of afking
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>>180650320
>>180655323
>they think AFK necros are getting buffed with the patch
>they don't know
I'm so excited to see it all burn.
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>>180655420
What did he mean by this
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>>180655420

p-p-pls explain anon
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>>180655515
>>180655603
Skeleton Archers and Soldiers don't automatically attack anymore on kToS, you have to actually play the game.
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>>180655710
NAAANIIIIII???!?!?
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>>180655710
Easy to fix, straight up botting
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>>180655808
Easy to detect, straight up banning.
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>>180655808

ya they'll just set their bots to auto-attack so the skeletons autoattack, so what's to be done about that

we already have necro bots that have macros for auto-sitting but none of them are getting banned
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>>180655710
I smell bullshit
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>>180655808
>Cant report for afk farm
>Can report for botting

Nice

>IMC never bans
niceme.me L**co K***erg
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>>180655710
wrong
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>>180650260
According to the google sheet theres 210 HG and 230 HG, which one do you mean?
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>>180655907
>autositting
Dumb, this happens to anyone that AFKs while sitting down.
>>180655980
wrong
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>>180656098
prove me wrong fucko
actual video evidence
hint: you can't
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>>180655861
>implying they ban bots
I see you've never been to Fasika Plateau.
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>>180656165
Yeah bro let me go make a video about something that was said in the patch notes.
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>>180650260
>>180650260
check the thing in OP for drops of 170 and 220 HG Items. Some of them are good to use or sell well.

But i'd suggest focus more on leveling. You'll probably spend a lot of time farming the HG items you want (stupid rng boxes now). Farm or buy them later at 300+
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>>180655710
>>180655861
>>180655953
They don't even bother to ban bots so why would they ban necrocucks pressing z once a while.
I wish they do though
I sent at least 10 tickets about bots with video evidence. Every time they replied with same thing and didn't even watch them.
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>>180656256
link to patch notes
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>>180656218
>botting a level 100 map
>comparable to botting with a level 317 character
kek
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>>180656370
Post on forums, whenever you are reporting you should be doing both things.

Being public about it puts them in a position where others can see it so they will at least try and do something when there's a lot.
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>>180656403
I'm not spoonfeeding your retarded ass, just go look at the summon buff patch notes.
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>>180653456
20
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>"I know something but i will not show or tell where it is, cause is spoonfeed" guy is back
I almost missed your missinfo shitposting
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>>180656803
we reddit now
don't forget to downvote for not spoonfeeding
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>>180656664
lmao just checked there isn't any
good bait made me check the website
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>>180656803
Hello how do I go to google please teach me okay?
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>>180656497
At this point I don't care to report more bots. You can meet my favorite one running free in tenet garden ch3 near kateen entrance and record him if you want. First time I saw him on bee farm back when r7 was still around, then in vilna forest when gm was spawning grim reapers.
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>>180657080
Hi, you type google.com in the bar in top of your browser. yw
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>make ridiculous claim
>where's the source
>l-lol I aint spoonfeeding y-you
Really gets the noggin joggin
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Is this a decent build? Please help
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11116888e.3f4a5f85.144195b5.1f23315a718a95.2135435175
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>>180657198
ok thank you can you please google the korean tos website please?
>>180657204
can you not bully i'm learning how to google right now
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>Summons don't attack when you don't this time for real

Kys necroniggerjews
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>>180657317
Sure, its http://tos.nexon.com
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>>180657264
Not really,
its not a bossing char
and if its just for farming then Highlander2 would be better than sword3
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>>180654736

>cryo walls
>dps

lmao, both chronos are using ice rods, literally 0 dmg from the chronos
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>>180657375
ok which one is the news so i can find patch notes
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>>180657598
Here http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/list.aspx
Good luck finding that Necro change, its not there, i check that site almost daily.
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>>180657813
>i check that site almost daily.
lmao fukcing nerd
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>>180657813
it's in the same one as the fucking summon buffs you dumb slut mia
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>>180658037
Not them.
>>180657881
Problem friend?
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>>180657387
Do I really need more damage skills for that build? How would Highlander2 be better for farming?
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>>180658414
Most skills, especially ones with low CD, will let you kill mobs faster.
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>>180658414
bleed + skyliner, crow + moulinet combo beats having only double slash
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People keep talking about afk in high level maps but don't think that's feasible with silver drop penalties; you can afk in a lot of maps only due to the new level difference penalty.
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>>180658502
>>180658603
I've never played HL, how should I distribute the rest of my points? Last question, I swear.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11226888e.354555.31557581.144195b5.1f23315a718a95.2135435175
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>>180658860
You're not gonna die unless you get assassinated unless its something like hunting grounds

The bigger problem of afking at high level maps is the shitty distribution of spawnpoints
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>>180658860
lol coward. while you're still at bees making 100k a day i'll be making 2m an hour at my secret spot
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>>180658860
People is already afk farming in Solitary Cells. Nothing will stop them from farming in Alembique Cave, Jeromel Park or Timerys when they get buffed.
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>>180658981
lol coward. while you're still at your secret spot making 2m an hour i'll be making 20m a second at my secret spot
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>>180658981
>at my secret spot
oh.. its that time again
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>>180659015
>Jeromel Park or Timerys
Spawns are pretty bad and mobs are not aggressive, I doubt it's afkable.
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>>180659142
>Timerys
>Spawns are pretty bad and mobs are not aggressive
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>>180658929
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11226888e.354555.344a557585.144195b5.1d21317f8a95.2135435175

Here you go I also fixed your corsair stuff

DWA is shit, kielhauling will kill any single non-dungeon monster instantly so you will use that occasionally to kill single monsters quick from range

Dust devil is great now dont skip it

Crossguard gives a debuff to any monster that makes them stand still and take 100% more pierce damage (fencer skills, hexen dropper)
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>>180659330
Doesn't crossguard require 2h swords?
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Fuking made me check
https://youtu.be/GiEULIy5lEg
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>>180659084
why the fuck do you need all that money anyway
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>>180659457
It does
And DWA deserves 1 point for filler.
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>>180659298
Yeah my bad I was thinking about Jonael Commemorative Orb.
Still, Tymeris has the same problem as Demon Prison 2, you need several necros to cover all the spots to have good spawns.
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>>180659457
It does but its easy to pull off
If you dont like it you can ignore it but I personally have no problems switching quick to block an attack while my other skills are on cooldown
>>180659535
You almost have never cooldown on your kill combos though
At least if you're farming DPK mats like you should be, the spawnrate just aint this high
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>>180659486
I don't get it what does this show? They're not AFK.

>>180659330
It's annoying when people give advice on classes they don't play.
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>>180659512
>she does not have 30 chars at 330 with each single attribute at Lv100 and all of them full Solmiki+21 Trans10
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>>180659657
>while my other skills are on cooldown
>You almost have never cooldown on your kill combos though

what did he mean by this
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>>180659696
Templeshooter isnt attacking while skellies does
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>>180659950
Yeah its one of the kill combos i mean
Crossguard > Sept
And I rarely use that one, and if I have to then after that skyliner is already cooled off
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>>180659838
but I do, that's why I'm wondering why you even need silver because it's so easy to cap attributes and gear in this game
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>>180660215
Maybe she prepares for Rank10?
or is cooperating with mmotank?
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>>180659657
>>180659535
>>180659950
>>180660124
I really don't want to use 2h swords. Otherwise, I would just make a doppel or something. If I drop cross guard, is highlander still worth taking? What could I do with the extra points?
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What do you trans after you trans your weapon?
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>>180660442
Yeah sure, like I said that crossguard combo is almost never used

Just have skyliner max, crosscut max, moulinet maxed
Rest doesnt matter, I would keep 5 in crown for bosses and maybe get points in cartar, it literally doesnt matter

Highlander is all about skyliner and crown moulinet
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>>180660564
Your gender
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>>180660589
Alright, thanks
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>>180660595
That usually happens before they trans their weapon
see: voxandra or w/e it's called
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They should do a sale for TP packs too what the fuck gooks.... .... ...
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>>180661708
The more I see it the more 315 staff looks like one of the stick horses children play with.
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>>180662591
It literally is, check 3D model closer https://tos.neet.tv/items/273120
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Goddess of Fertility, Goddess of Purity and Goddess of SEX when?
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>>180661708
>>180662591
>tfw you realize Vienarazis Staves are made from children toys of kids that died during Medzio Diena when they were playing in Svalphinghas Forest, Jeromel Park and Jonael Commemorative Orb
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>>180663160
Zemnya is the fertility goddess. Lada is the sex one.
>>
At what point should I start enhancing my gear? I'm nearly level 200 now and 1.) combat has been fairly easy and 2.) it's been more economical to purchase pardoner buffs and sometimes purchasing a new weapon every 20-30 levels. Upgrading my current weapon would cost about 15k and I'm 50 levels past its requirement
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>>180663160
CuteNotLewd worshiped the sex goddess and look what happened.
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>>180663767
fuck that Medzo Diena guy
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>>180663890
Get token first. Enhance weapons of level 170+ to +6
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>>180664202
Those cost money, right? I'll consider that at end-game but I don't like the idea of sinking (another) $10 into this game unless it'll last me. Are you saying level 170+ weapons can last that long?

What do tokens have to do with enhancement, anyway?
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anyone else pose your chars so it looks like they're talking to each and having fun
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>>180664785
>boys and girls in same lodge

>>180664781
Get a Token for 1.5m or 2m from Market. They add a lot of stuff, nothing to enchantments, but should be top priority.

+6 is cheap nowadays but not worth it much if you get better gear soon.
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>>180664785
No because I'm not a psycho
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>>180664781
170 orange weapons can last till lvl 330.
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>>180655603
what's that from?
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Got a Gladiator Band for 250k today on klai
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eHOthk2-a4
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>>180665803
that fucking potato
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>>180664785
>dat male Rogue groping Wugu ass in the upper left
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>>180665683
SELL IT TO ME for 2.5m!
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>>180665803
Holy shit what?
That's applied to all knockdowns?
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>>180665803
>exploding monster won't knock you down anymore
>they will instead knock you back
OH COME THE FUCK ON KIM WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
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>>180663767
>Vienarazis weapons are made from dead kids toys
Fuck man, I don't want to be sad today...
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>>180666275
No, only to mobs that knock you down when they die. Almost nothing does that.
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>>180666196
There's a made Gladiator Band for 7mil on the market.
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>>180666350
Eh who cares then.
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>>180666416
Indeed
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If your squire table disappears what happens to the unused food?
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>>180666735
Alsheyra eats it
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>>180667441
kek
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Wasn't there an armor type proficiency skill a long time ago? Benefits to using all cloth, all leather, or all plate? What happened to that?
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>>180668421
It's passive now.
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>>180668634
It is? I'm wearing 4 cloth pieces and I can't see any change to my SP stats when removing them. Am I looking in the wrong place for the benefits?
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Who're Kaulas, Krisius and Oksinis in TOS lore?
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>>180668806
It doesn't affect SP.
Cloth mastery = magic damage reduction
Plate mastery = physical damage reduction
Leather mastery = critical rate (tooltip says attack but it's wrong) and accuracy flat bonus
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>>180668806
F3 > select your base class > scroll down
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>>180668806
They changed the bonuses. You don't get the per-level stuff anymore.
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>>180668987
Just random name like Oghma and Grima
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I fucking hate Orshans
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>>180669076
>>180669091
>>180669116
Thanks anons, appreciate it

>select your base class > scroll down
Ohhh, I didn't know you had to select base class. That explains some things.
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>Total queue: 1
>Get up to do something
>Come back
>Mission complete, returning in 60 seconds
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>>180672182
>tfw retarded weeaboos will never stop drawing and publishing their shitty "art"
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Is c2p3 chap pd2 still viable for solo farm? full spr or int now?
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>>180672270
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Should I aim for Leather or Plate solmiki gear as physical DPS? I see almost everyone wearing plate and I guess I understand. The leather set has the worst stats while the cloth has the best and plate has an insane amount of health.

My build is High3>Dop3 and I use Sarkmis (which is -70 CON) so I'm leaning towards the plate but also the leather has a nice amount of DEX too which helps with the highlander passive and skyliner speed.
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>>180673132

Leather is better for purely physical DPS but I would get the plate because it's far more universal amongst your characters.
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>>180673132
>as physical DPS?
Leather
for crit

Plate only for "tanking" but there is no need for that in TOS
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>>180672182
>master1200
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>>180670796
So you took at least 3 minutes, no shit it was done. Slow.
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>>180673132
>>180673209

crit rate diminish return is so fucked up that if you have everything already + pocket chrono, plate might be better
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>>180673132
Leather is ironically better for magical dps too thanks to INT on the top.
The full set bonus is amazing too, definitely leather.
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>>180673209
>>180673327
>>180673693
>>180673941
Thanks for the response. I was thinking of making an info card in image form with all stats of all sets, side by side so it would be easy to eye them over to see the benefits.

Y/N? I know veterans have no need for this but could help newbies and I might do it anyway to sort it out for myself. Figured I'd just share the thing here too, let others benefit from it too maybe.

I'd include cube reroll costs too so it's like a Solmiki info card, but I only know how much it costs for 25F because I'm a noob and I have no idea if the further floors have a "chance" for essence like lolopanther floors do.
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>>180674474
Yes why not.
Sounds useful and I doubt will take much time.
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>>180674474
Y
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>>180675303
>>180675305
It'll take some time, maybe an hour. I'll try to include things like anvil enhancement and transcendence stuff too.
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>>180675546
>an hour to sum some stats
wew lad, I could do it 10 minutes at worst
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>>180675765
>wew lad
Post discarded
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>>180675765
See you in 10 minutes then, I'll make mine and you make yours. It's a competition then. I'll take my time.
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>>180675954
>It's a competition then
No it's not, I don't give a fuck
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>i can/know but i will not
True buddy, dont spoonfeed these buttblasted shitters
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>>180676107
cared enough to respond lmao
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>>180676107
You're pathetic.
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>>180677789
ugly
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>>180678016
She looks feisty. I'd love to pin her down and mark her womb as mine.
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Is the bonus on the solmiki plate that says "magic resistance" actually magic defense or something entirely different?
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>>180677872
no u
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>>180678016
Post the full picture.
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>>180678079
cringe
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It's time. Post yours!
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>>180678651
Wugushi

Expected: Poison

Got: Nothing
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>>180678651
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>>180678651
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>>180679648
me on the left
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>>180679648
me showing off butt
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>>180679648
me on the left but not that far left
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>>180679648
i'm the bed
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>>180679648
me outside the window, in a sports car, taking it from behind from Ha****u K*m
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Camping for yellow-eyed flower petal. Holy shit this is cancer. I'm starting to wonder if becoming a Naruto is worth this shit.
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>>180680139
t. L**aco
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>>180680431
Please do not insult my Cowfu
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>>180611029
I don't have any supporting proof of it, just something I'd seen someone post in the thread a while ago.
That the demons had seen the monk master's actions and decided "fuck this fuck humans that was the last fucking straw" which kicked off their plan to kill everyone with the god tree, something like that
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how do i make hethran badge lv2 using 2X lv1 badges???

no recipe
guide on offocial website just says "you can combine 2 of lv1 badges to make a lv2"
if i click on them it gives no prompt and just immediately dishes out a quest and wastes my badge

please respond
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>>180681624
sit
5
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>>180681624
what's your youtube mate, I want to see your videos
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>>180681706
thanks im retarded
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>>180680879
Sounds legit to be honest
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>>180678651
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>>180678651
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>>180680879
>DemonLords disguise as humans
>do Dungeon with young Monk Master
>get triggered so hard by this Monks bullshit... they start a war to eliminate all humans
very understandable
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>>180678651
>>180678651
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>>180678016
Give me the full image you slut, don't pretend that there's no bondage in there.
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>when both Inquisitors in your party use Breaking Wheel
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>>180683137
>implying you can get that many frames per second when that happens
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>0 stamina
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>>180682592
Reminds me of this old image, though I don't think the picture itself is around anymore.
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>>180683573
take the yellow pill
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>>180683573
>cant toggle rp walk with the squad
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>>180683892
gain weight
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Why does hackapell have a pistol skill if it doesn't allow you to use them?
Do I have to take schwarzer beforehand if I want to use it?
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>>180684972
All archers can equip pistols by default.
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>>180675303
>>180675305
>>180675954
Took me longer than I wanted, but I got distracted.

Wanted to be accurate and sort the info to make it easier to digest.

Tell me if there's mistakes. Might return to this some other day.
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>>180685621
thanks for making this. spoonfeed me a little more, why did you put some stats in red
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>>180686048
RED=DAMAGE
IT'S OBVIOUS
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>>180685621
Mastery dont stack its 10%p.dmg 10%m.dmg and 50crit for 4 parts.
the "4 or more" is also weird.. cant have more then 4. stupid IMC

CON+SPR stats are based on class
see https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread/354628

not sure about other things
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someone tell me how to hack the lottery box
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NICE FUKCING GAME

MUH ECONOMY

MUH IMPACT ON MARKET
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>>180685621
Already realized I should be a little clearer on the anvils since top/bottom and gloves/boots need clearer readability. I'll remake that part when I return to this some other day.

>>180686048
Tried to make offensive stats in red and defensive in blue so it's easier to compare. Evasion on leather is wrongly red since it's more of a defensive stat.

>>180686242
Stats scale depending on class yes, so I used cleric as a base for magic attack (and added that wizards get more) and same with CON. I should add that swords get more. Hence ~ next to the bonuses stats give since they depend on which base class you are. I'll make it clearer the next time I return to it.
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Guys, i want to help a guy get his hands on the Rune of Royal Mausoleum so he can make the Rune Caster, can i see the rune if i stay in the point or not ?
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>>180686494
Iirc you can see the runes if you've done the pre-quest to the point where it wants you to find runes. Any class can start it too.
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>>180686698
i've already turned in Rune Caster, so i was wondering if i could go help him...
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>>180686862
Ohh, I'm not sure then, sorry. I feel like the game wouldn't let you see them anymore if you got them all before on that character though.
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I'm pretty sure anyone can see/pick anything from the hidden classes. I've gotten parts for ninja and some runes even though I haven't done either quest.
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>>180685621
>can't do something helpful without sticking your name on it
pathetic attentionwhoring desu
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Is the pet event over or is my fat pet just not going to give me anything for feeding it?
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>>180687318
>>180687496
Oh, i see, thank you guys
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>>180687696
It's still on, your pet just hates you.
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@attentionwhore
how is this even a cheatsheet
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So, by what I have been reading if I take rogue c1I should invest some point into DEX, is that right?
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>>180688703
Where do people read this shit? tosbase?
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>>180678651
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>>180688703
It isn't simple like that. What's the rest of your build?
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>>180688868
A2>Sapper3 I will be going Rogue as soon as I hit class level 15, after that I will pick Musket.
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I swear I am constantly seeing different people going Dopplegoon. Is Red Mage Joe the best misinfoer out there?

or does he really believe the shit he types
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>>180689054
Well, there's a rank between hoplite 3 and dragoon, what else are you gonna take there?
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>>180688993
Then you should put all your points in STR, not in DEX. DEX is only useful for AA builds and to use spammable skills faster. Having raw damage should be your priority.
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>>180689136

Swordsman 3 like everyone else?
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anyone can upload the korean/original loading screens?
current loading screens are shit
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>>180688831
What does swell right arm =?
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>>180689136
Sword3 for Shinobi at R10

Do you even think about the future?
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>>180689240
Swift Step spread attribute.
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>>180689237
Here's a collection of the original loading screens at least. https://my.mixtape.moe/ndfcga.7z
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>>180689054
I keep finding them in saalus and other parties, a shitload of HP too.

Funny when I get them, I always manage to outdps them while still pulling the whole room.
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>>180689584
Thanks
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>>180689662

Probably because his guide tells people to get every stat besides int.
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>>180689789
But how will they take advantage of the Finestra attribute without INT?
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>>180678651
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Wanting to ask this for a few days, which weapon for Necromancer post the change to scale pets?

I was thinking Windia rod for mine. She's Thauma2 as well and full SPR, and Windia gives 60 INT / SPR and I don't think anything else gives as much. Was it confirmed at all if transcending makes the pets do more too?
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>>180690376
Windia Rod (60) -> Skull Smasher (78) -> Solmiki Rod (97)

In short, yes. Windia Rod is the best option for our Necro. Now post her doing a lewd pose.
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>>180690376
Regard horn staff
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>>180678651
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>farming DPK
>about 100 over the target amount
>of course, a swordcuck shows up
>watch him kill 1 (one) monster and get the DPK
>laughs in all chat

This is such a stupid fucking system and I'm the closest I've ever been to uninstalling this. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>180691258
There's no DPK you braindead
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>>180691331

Fuck off misinfo.
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>>180691398
>misinfo calling other misinfo
this needs to stop
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>>180691258
Why are you calling him a cuck when you literally just watched him fuck your wife and loot her while you did nothing but masturbate to his laughter directed at you?
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>>180691331
>>180691545
IMC and gamefiles say there is. the name is wrong tho
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>>180691613

I'm not sure how I was supposed to prevent that when the monster spawns all over the map. I just happened to come on screen of him and watched the item drop near the goddess statue.

>>180691671

Ignore the shitposters please.
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>>180691671
IMC really shot themselves in the foot to keep calling it DPK and not giving it a new name or something
Now they actually ended up going back to pure RNG which is worse for everyone
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>>180691258
Technically if you're over the DPK, then someone else nabbed the drop beforehand too. But ktos is removing DPK anyways.
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Is there a more beautiful sight that a dead necro on bees? I think not.
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>>180691927

The DPK is a range, you can never be sure someone nabbed it until you're like 200-300 over (which is part of the reason it fucking sucks). And yeah I know, but who knows when we're getting that if ktest just got it.
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>>180692042
You have no idea how it actually works do you?
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>>180692114

I feel like I'm being baited. Have you people not hunted DPK mats recently? Take Yellow Caros. The DPK is around 500-600 but you can get a drop at 700.
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>>180692234
Yes because there can be a drop at 1 too or at 20 or at any given time
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>>180692007
Sex with a girl.
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>>180692007
yes, all necros in a bee channel dead
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>>180692304

Yes, there can (even though it's incredibly unlikely), but even on a completely uncontested channel starting from nothing it can take 100 or more kills above the DPK for a drop. That happened to me literally yesterday and my server is dead enough+I'm autistic enough about checking how many people are on my channel that I'm 99% sure no one sniped it.
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>>180692386
love with another boy
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>>180692525
>channel
Anon please
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>>180692525
>I'm autistic enough about checking how many people are on my channel
It's shared across channels nowadays
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>>180692525
That it either means you're exaggerating and lying, didnt pay attention enough and you did actually get sniped, or that its broken

I find it hard to believe that any server thats not Orsha can have 0 other people on a DPK for an hour or more
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>>180692634
slay all gays
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>>180692660
>>180692674

Unless I missed information within the past like, week, that applies only for the HGs. DPK materials still drop consistently around the number they're supposed to. If other channels applied they could drop completely at random and in my experience they don't.

>>180692716

Or you could be wrong. There's that.
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>>180692842
No you're the one thats wrong
Everyone tells you its based on map not channel, why do you think its only HG point me to that information that suggest anything like that
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I've made multiple builds for each class and murmillo fucking stumps me every time I try with it.
There's so many options that seem viable but I have no idea how to choose which ones I should take before murm.
Rodel has so many skills I have no idea what to do with, pelt looks like a good choice, hoplite has finestra but I don't want to be using a spear, and shinobi works with pelt but I don't know whether to take it.
Is anyone here able to explain murm builds to me?
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>>180692923

You literally just said I got sniped and now someone else said it's across all channels so you changed what you're saying. Ok.

Either way the channel-shared DPK IMC talked about was in the context of the HG. People who have been hunting DPK mats can tell you that, at the very least, the DPK maps do not have a shared DPK across all channels. Literally go ask one who has been hunting them.
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>>180691398
It's psiedoRNG and your DPK values are wrong. It's also shared between channels. Fucking misinfo
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>>180693017
message swaaz
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>>180693057

Literally go try it. If no one is in your channel you're going to get the DPK at roughly the same amount of kills even if all of the other channels are full. Do you people not play the fucking game?
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>>180693039
You're literally making shit up, in the DPK interview where IMC clarified that its not DPK and pseudo RNG it was not implied to be restricted to huntring grounds at all
I suggest learning to read and understand english you BR shitter
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>>180692234
That means the 'DPK' is at or above 700 you tucking idiot. What you're calling DPK is just the most likely amount of kills before pseudo RNG all but confirms you a drop
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>>180693154
This is misinfo
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>C*lnigger still shitting up the thread because he doesn't understand how the current system works
Pretty pathetic tbqh
He's a brit too, you'd expect him to be able to read
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>>180693154
You're wrong. Not only did IMC confirm this, I've tested it on BBs three times this week.
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>>180693317
gimme a bb
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>>180693263
>brits
>doing anything after losing the war to america

kek
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>>180693039
You're dumb as a bag of rocks.
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>>180693461
They sure like to shitpost alot
They're the leafs and aussies of europe
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>>180693392
0 in 3 hours earlier today, bad feels.
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I saw two people kiss in game and I got an erection. What's the fastest way for me to kill myself?
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>>180693760

Fastest death or fastest method? Not really gonna beat a well placed bullet but it'll take a while to acquire a gun if you don't already have one.
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>>180693760
Helium bag is pretty painless for a bitch like you
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>>180693760

kill your erection
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>>180693760
are you a cuck?
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>>180693978
Why do these men have breasts???
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>>180693862
Fastest death method.
>>180693929
It'd take a while to get helium, I don't even know where I'd get it from.
>>180693978
I wish it was possible to kill my sex drive completely, it's not like I'll ever have sex. Masturbating is just an annoying chore I have to do multiple times a day.
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>>180694163
You can literally order it from amazon
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>>180694163
>multiple times
pathetic
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>>180694163

Are you the guy whose posted here about being 30 and a kissless depressed virgin?
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>>180694163
Go to bed, c*****t.
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>>180694232
It'll take a while to get here though, and doesn't that alert the authorities or something if I order helium and a face mask? My psychiatrist made me remove all the sharp objects from my house recently too.
>>180694296
I get erections really easy.
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>>180694334
I'm 26 and a kissless depressed virgin, it's sad to know there's more of me out there though.
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>>180694427
Just go to a party store or supermarket and get a few balloons filled with helium bro
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>I act pathetic on an online shitboard for (You)s
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>>180694913
I can see that. Here (You) go!
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>not farming (You)coins
stay poor poorfags
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>>180694427
If you cut down on masturbation it'll be easier to ignore. And besides not every boner requires wanking you wanker. Stop being a subhuman.
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>>180695240
If I don't wank it won't go away! It's not like I watch porn or anything. Sometimes I'm still hard even after cumming once, it's really annoying.
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>Even at level 15, Joint Penalty is 14 hits

I get that they needed to dial back how disgustingly good even a single rank in Linker was, but holy fuck, why throw the entire thing under a bus.
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>>180695690
>slurp slurp I love DPS dick
I hope they gut Pass next.
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>>180695690
>hurr durr we need to nerf JP it's too strong for a support skill
>meanwhile ice wall isa PP takes down demon lords in a few seconds
Just IMC things
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Does anyone here know anything about modding?

I want to register a message for when you sell an item on the market, but I don't know what it might be.
Currently looking through random files in addon.ipf but I'm not really getting anywhere.
Any hints or suggestions?
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>mfw get my 9th practo and have not made anything but a 1x prac 2h sword
i can't bring myself to farm the mats and im always indecisive

mfw still opening 5 boxes too
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>>180696210
You mean that thing the game does automatically without a mod?
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>>180696364
By "Register a message" I mean the codey way of making a custom thing happen when the game says something specific happens.
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>every single token bought or removed from Fedimian market
>last time I saw one they were 3.8m
are we doomed? whales are only buying the new pay2win cube and not tokens
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>>180696475
I have 3 months worth of tokens saved up, and I'm going to quit until R9 comes out after I get pract from my cubes and sell them.
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>>180695329
try a hot sandwich press
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>>180696475
>Whales get their own tokens and continue to get rich
>Still spend the same money on premium stuff
>F2P people don't want to get left behind and spend money on tokens
>IMC wins
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>>180695690
It's alright in coordinated parties, most of the times people will correctly use big onehiters when linked in favor of "billion of small hits". If this was still the old patch I'd be complaining but considering the new one where there are 1000% modifiers ability, it's alright. It still works as "give aoe to single target classes" spell.
That being said, I'm a Linker3, so I'm not struggling with LV6 or LV11.

I still want Linker to get more stuff, not necessarily buffs, but:
>Spiritual Link shareable buffs are pretty garbage save some gimmicky cases.
>Physical Link for some reason burns stamina.
>Lifeline uptime and effects are not nearly as strong enough (save for certain multi-stat scaling abilities)
>JP broken by everything and anything. So many fucking random spells just dispel the whole thing.
>Can't PhysLink+Spiritual Chain for Lifeline health share with high health.

But more important than all: THE FUCKING SPELLS ARE UNSTABLE AS FUCK, I can't tell how many times I cast the link, it will jump to every enemy and simply vanish, or simply take no target as the projectile flies into the end of the screen. This shit happens with Physical Link and Spiritual Link as well, cast Spiritual Chain, I can't even cast Lifeline before it vanishes. This is everyone bundled up after being warped into a dungeon.
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>>180696919
>implying I'll play this game without free tokens
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>>180696919
>implying anyone will play this shit game without tokens
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Anyone have any tips for the appraiser flowers?
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>>180697335
shout
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>>180696475
Meanwhile retarded klaip cucks still sell them for 2.5m en masse like its a good trade to send 10 dollars to IMC for 2.5 m
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>>180696919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qKg37sohc4
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>>180697506
What do you mean by that? Is it tradeable?
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>>180697868
>Mr Kim is a rich man
>it's literally the song's name
>knew it for like a decade
>never realized the implications until now
jesus christ
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>>180699912
I feel dirty now.
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>>180699912
>that hand
holy fuck how horrifying
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Overheat is a shit mechanic and is misnamed for how it acts.

Thoughts?

Bonus: Do you think that if it worked the way it's name would imply it would be more fun? Assuming that the CD would be CurrentCD/OH. If you use it too often RIParoo, full CD.
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Can someone give me a fun sword build to play?
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>>180700640
Play other game, this is tree of magic damage.
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>>180700537
I always thought that if I dont use full overheat its going to cool off faster (hence the name overheat)
But its even longer CD than the full CD when you just use one overheat
What a retarded name for a charge mechanic
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>>180700756
But I already got bored of my Elememe. Now i want to try some sword class
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>>180701054
other
game
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>>180699912
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>>180701054
high3barb1doppel3

>>180700756
>>180701131
go die misinfo
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I just went Oracle and grabbed Clairvoyance because I thought it'd be useful to see enemy drops around me as I run.

It only shows the drops for a single enemy.

Is this a complete waste of a skill point? Because it feels like one.
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>>180701054
Pic related.
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>>180701767
You have to use clairvoyance before resetting otherwise you can't see what the drop will be. Oracle isn't starved for skill points anyway, arcane energy is shit and only exists to destealth archers in TBL.
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>>180693017
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>>180701903
Are there monsters which are particularly good at using Reset on? Field bosses, etc?

My understanding of Reset is that it re-rolls the loot table for a single enemy, so by using Clairvoyance and Reset I can see the drops of 1 enemy with the equivalent of 3 enemies' worth of drops.

I dunno, it just feels like I'd be better off killing 3 monsters than killing 1 with 3 chances for loot.
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Anything new on wugu or mergen?
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Reminder to support people with cute names! Buy their items from market!
eheheheh
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>>180702565
Shhhh, let the retards stay delusional about their farming classes.

It's only good for farming the Manahas set, it's literally dog shit worthless for everything else.
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>>180702565
There's some elite mobs with low spawn rates that drop rare items, most notably manahas armor which is a high level version of Cafrisun that drops from 4 mobs with 30 min spawn time at like 1/500 chance or something like that. It's basically two one shot kills on a 2:30 CD for farming purposes, and you should have plenty of points for it anyway.
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>>180702565
>it just feels like I'd be better of killing 3 than 1 with 3 chances
When you're grinding for certain things and the mob has a smaller density it would be better to be able to reroll a few times instead of having to run around the map to find another mob.
If this was still 2016 it would have been nice for farming lizard amber for a venier, or rerolling cafrisun for the armor piece you're looking for, shit like that.
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>>180702565
Worthless for 99% of shit that you would farm.
Garbage. OracleC1->Kabba2 is trash, just skip Oracle and get damage. I learned this lesson the hard way.
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how many points is homing arrow worth? it has a charge time and that increases per level. I assume level 1 is fine since if you get hit by anything especially ranged mob it'll just cancel so u dont want it to be long.
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>>180702905
>>180703264
I love you misinfo agents. Keep people away from Oracle and Kabbalist, the only true farming classes.
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>>180703726
Neck yourself nigger
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>>180703595

iirc, homing arrow works like some wizard spells: the skill has the same full cast time regarless of the level, but you can release a lv 1/2/3/4 sooner

ex:
skill at lv 1 = 5 seconds cast time
skill at lv 2 = 2.5 sec for lv 1, 5 seconds for lv 2
skill at lv 5 = 1 sec for lv 1, 2 seconds for lv 2, 3 for lv 3, 4 for lv 4 and 5 for full power lv 5
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>>180703726
Have fun. You can farm much much quicker AND have a usable character for other things by going Sadhu3 instead of X2+Oracle.
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>>180703726
Kabba 2 is a meme just go Chapquisitor and use Oracle as the rank 7 choice.
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>>180703962
That kinda turns me off honestly. I guess I'll avoid it, plus I chose scout over falconer so I don't benefit as much from getting it. Guess I'll put a point into arrow sprinkle if thats even worth it since it doesn't worth on flying enemies for some reason.
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>>180703943
>>180703991
>>180704024
Keep it up! I am not even joking! Keep telling people this. I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGy8zhZ33sI

THIS VIDEO IS MISINFO AND IT TOOK THEM 30 HOURS TO GET THOSE, NOT WORTH IT
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>>180704024
150s Resetting (Equiv to 3 mobs in drops)
vs
73s Clone which can potentially clone 3+ (Example Galok a 5 or 6)

The only downside to cloning is that if you are farming something with both numbers being low, you are at no advantage.
All Kabb needs to be a useful as a support AND damage dealer for builds is to have a Double Chance attribute that lets only you trigger Double Chance for +X% SP consumption.


>>180704401
Oh wow, a single use for it. Oh wow, out of that use you may still have to Reset many times to get that, you also will only get lucky with this if no one else is doing it at the time. Since they are elites you can't clone them so there's no benefit here.

There's no misinfo to be had in the video because it cuts to the time of their last reset that got them the click, not showing how many times they would have had to click it. which is only 2 tries per 2m30s. This is clearly superior to nothing in this scenario though.
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>>180704401
The Oracle is only confirming it really, and providing 2 other drop chances per spawn per 2m30s.
The Swell Body/DPE is the real MvP here.
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>>180704661
dude you're retarded lol

>>180704542
its random
showing how many times it took em is pointless
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Is Elkosh armor ok for an Elememe lvl 260?
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>>180704401
I used the reset event to trying an oraclekabba for memes
Firents flowers for Appraiser and this are the only farming i ever found an use for this cleric
And the set is a pain unless you bring a chrono + oracle party, sure you also have to dont' mind farming the same mob multiple times for everyone to get a piece
OracleKabba isn't something you use to farm solo
OracleKabba isn't something you use for farm 99,9% of the times
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>>180704337

sprinkle looks too good to avoid, I would definitely get one point on it, even on shaft, kek

>>180705358
yes, it's okay don't bother investing too much before 300
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>>180705358
not really, that has no stats.

get any plate armor with good defense, or/and armor with INT/magic attack
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I want to lick Capybas thighs
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>>180705596
Full Elkosh set is +15 INT and has better MDEF than some Hunting Ground armour, it's pretty decent welfare gear pre-300
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>>180705996
And force you into 4 items. Just get WarMage Top+Bottom
MDef barely matters

But ok, if Elkosh is cheap... maybe
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>>180706108
And you can get it for free from the 200 dun boss cubes
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>>180705443
no one gives a shit you fucking blogposting attention whore
go back to your dead discord muslim chats faggot
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>>180706442
rude
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>>180705327
>Misinfo and it took them 30 hours
>Attempting to convey that they did it fast and it didn';t take X hours
>It certainly could have because Resetting is shit

Enjoy your shit choice and trying to drag others into it.
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Con for leather archers

Yes/No?

Is glass cannon viable or is that bad?
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>>180707263
>con
pvp or support yes
pve dps no
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>>180707492
Oh I meant is no con viable in leather woops. Late night.
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>>180707647
as above.. no need for con in pve if you are DPS, so yes
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But why?
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>>180706608
fuck off already with your blog and shitty class
dragoon was never good and never will be you fucking shitstain
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Anyone got access to a super whaled PD gameplay?
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Decided to get 2 of the 11 leticia cube deal. No potions thank god but it was mostly kinda, "eh".

Can't believe some of you fork hundreds over this rng.
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newb here what does a cryo chrono sage build look like? as in what skills to max. thanks. also do i grind or do quests?
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>>180709914
something like
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888e..11213f5a7585.1f213d5a6175.1131415185

I got Stop Maxed
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>>180710060
thanks anon. i have a question though why is slow not used? or is it inferior to other skills.
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>>180710257
I didnt really need that, bosses run/jump anyways and mobs are frozen/inIceTree
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>>180709906
That's a really weird looking dildo
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>>180710257
Generally, CryoChronoSage goes full Con. Slow mostly benefits from Int, the movement penalty is not very useful. I'd say it's okay to put 1 point into for the nullification attribute.
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Got my first pract item. What I do to not waste all the potential. Awakening first or anvil?
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>>180710679
Sockets first. Dont Awake. Anvil to +11 or more. Its RNG luck.
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>>180709914
>also do i grind or do quests?
Quest until ~200 or little longer. Until they take really long.
Grinding after 200 is decent or good.
Also dungeon spam, Missions, 100%maps.
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>>180704401
From the mouth of the person himself.

8 hours 4 pieces of the set. 32 hours.

Shut the fuck up.
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What build is Mumen Rider?
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>>180712810
He got nerfed.
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How would you guys feel if the basic class was given a second option to start with, like all other ranks?
Just something so that builds could be a bit specialized from the start.
>Wizard/mage
>Swordsman/spearman
>Cleric/priest moved here
>Archer/crossbow type class
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>>180712978
How could Kim nerf our Mumen Rider?!
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>>180713195
dumb
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we are going to need a new thread
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>>180714440
Just let it die.
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Is there are single better Swordie build than Sword3Pelt3ShinobiMurm? Don't you dare say Dop 'cause I rip those guys a new one on the regular.
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>>180715482
retard
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>>180715981
I'll take that as a no.
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>>180716065
Literally nothing matters in this game other than gear. If you beat someone on a boss it just means you have better gear.
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d e d
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>>180715482
Sw3Hop3Dragoon2
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>>180716207
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>>180716240
You asked for a better swordman build and you got it
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>>180716276
>Dragoon2
>better than anything
You're not fooling me, sonny.
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Migrate
>>180716506
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>>180716276
>dragoon
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