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>Was a shit character and a shit boss that got beat by a fucking furry of all things
>>180522038

>App 1.14, Regulation 1.35 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/3044845282383816896

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
http://imgur.com/a/eSXdv/layout/grid

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>180592762
>Disrespecting the main character of Dark Souls 3

lad
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DS2 newbie guide for all the steam salers
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>>180592931
>tfw just finished ds2 after 200 hours
thanks faggot.
TOO FUGGING LATE
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>>180592931
additional reading also
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>>180592818
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What mbti are you and what kind of build do you run?
Dex
str
int
fait
luck
?
I am INTP and run INT+FAI and a little STR+DEX because I can never make up my mind so I'd rather be a jack of all trades
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>>180592931

Vanilla runs at 60fps too.
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>>180592762
>>180593134
So... this is the power of...
lonely brain damaged animal fuckers
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Advice for what to level for a sorcery/hex build?
VGR 5
END 10
VIT 10
ATN 13
STR 7
DEX 15
ADP 8
INT 20
FTH 13

I'm using Great Soul Arrow and Dark Orb, I don't really know what I'm doing.
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Who here thinks Ringed City is Londor but From kinda retconned the name / chose to not use it because autism?
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>>180592818
>main character
>fight was barely memorable
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>>180593462

Yes.
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/214457

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/214458

Which fashion for my basic dex build?
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So how long is he going to put off playing Ringed City, lads?
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>>180593737
forever
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>>180593737
until the remastered version is released and gael is revealed to be velka
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>>180593737

He'll play it after he does another playthough of DaS2.
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Dark Souls 3 made me love feet.
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>>180593462
No it's better.
It gives you the feeling that Londor was just the proxy of the Snakes or the Pygmys itself becuase they had no other connection to the outside world.
TL,Dr Londor are tryhards who imitated Pygmys
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>>180591839
>not backing up your saves and unplugging your internet before messing with CE
no, you are the retard
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>>180593893
>Dark Souls 3 made me love feet.
>Dark Souls 3
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I've been playing on and off since release but never leveled over 80, what are invasions like at 100-120?
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>>"downgraded" phantom in full Havels
haha suck my fat fucking cock
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>>180593430
Get HP
Get ADP (82/96/99 Agility breakpoints)
Level DEX or STR whenever you see a weapon you think you might like (you only need to meet 50% of a weapons STR need if you 2 hand it)

Pyro scales off of INT + Faith so any magic build will end up with a high fire bonus, keep an eye out for pyromancies
Faith scales off of Faith, adds lighting bonus which directly effects how much damage lightning infusion and lightning weapon buffs (both spells and resins) do
Magic scales off of INT, directly effects how much damage sorceries, magic infusions and magic weapon buffs (again both spells and sorceries) do.
INT also gives access to Enhanced infusion, which deals physical damage but scales off of INT meaning you wont have to invest into a physical damage stat to deal with elemental resistant enemies
Dark scales off of INT or Faith whichever is LOWEST, it's meant to be the pure caster endgame option stat, since it by default grants you access to pyromancies, most sorceries and most miracles.

Pyro is generally useful and since it has 0 carry weight a good thing to have on hand
INT is very hit or miss, most things are either fairly weak to it or fairly strong to it, you do get a very healthy pool of spells to choose from
Faith is split in support and offensive types, offensive miracles have far fewer casts than sorceries/dark but deal good damage with very few enemies in the game being resistant to it, making it the support stat for melee builds, you buff yourself and your weapons and throw out the occasional ranged attack when the situation calls for it
Dark is generally above average against most things but doesn't really excel at anything, it also gives you access to amazingly high damage weapons (dark infused crypt sword, veldstads hammer)

DS2 is a game about exploring use this info to just make an informed decision on your own, don't sweat the details because you can just respec with Soul Vessels (hell you get one right in majula)
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>>180593779
>>180593793
>>180593857

So he's just going to let his final impression of Souls be the frankly unimpressive Ashes of Ariandel DLC?

Fuck me, TRC actually had some good lore and bossfights actually worth a damn.

>>180593857
Y'know surprised he didn't play that much ds2 given how he supposedly liked it over ds1
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>>180593430
see: >>180592931

You should focus on filling out your weak spots, starting with vigor, and adaptability.

Vigor is probably most important since you are going to die a lot to 1 hit attacks. Keep leveling that up until you aren't healing to full with estus.

Adaptability is very important in making you protected from dmage while rolling and use items (including estus) faster. You should keep going until agility is at least 92, which is probably ~15 ADP? Maybe less depending on your attunement.


Lower priority:
Strength is necessary because eventually you will want to equip something other than a light weapon. Level this once you find something that looks good to use, but 10-12 strength is fine.

Vit should be leveled up until you can equip your best medium armor and a weapon and stay around 50% equip load or less.

Faith should reach 20, so that you can get the sunset staff from Felkin.

Attunement, endurance and intelligence are all good for now. Level the rest first before you keep leveling those, starting with attunement.
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what to use with faith? sunlight sword?
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>>180594508
can you stop posting stupid e-celeb shit please?
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>>180594232
cancer

120 is where people congregate for min-maxed meta builds focusing entirely on single pvp strategies without being practical for any amount of co-op or pve
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>>180593893
That tumblr nose kinda ruins it.
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How come nobody uses this anymore?
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>>180594513
Thank you! What's good gear though? I bought a hood from Straid but that's about it.
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>des, ds1, ds3 protagonists have half of a moveset in the left hand
>ds2 protag has full movesets in either hand
>two handing doubles his str stat, where other protags add 50 percent of their str when two handing.

I figured it out lads. We don't have full movesets in the left hand because Bearer of the curse was ambidextrous.
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>>180595154
Wear whatever you like best. Elite Knight is my go-to in every game. Each time you kill a forlorn straid adds new armor to his shop fyi.
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>>180595154
I've found the Northwarder Set in Eleum Loyce to be really well-rounded for being such a lightweight set
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>>180595154
For weapons, try out everything that leningrast and macduff sells. Those are the basic weapons of each class, so when you find something you like that feels good to swing, start leveling up to use it.
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>>180593893
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>>180595154
Fashion Souls it up until you run into gear that has special effects that you like, even the it's usually fairly minor so fashion takes priority.
Spends souls at the armor merchant in Majula, it unlocks extra items for sale (elite knight and Alva being middle weight armor that look really great and have good stats) and will also start selling boss sets.
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>>180593893
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>Invade lower Irithyll
>Host + Phantom
>Drag fight into Pontiff Knights
>Kill Phantom
>Host dies to Pontiff Knight with no intervention on my part

/dsg/ was right, these guys are really build to curbstomp shitters
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>>180594629
Look, I just want some closure on this circus. All he needs to do is a stream of Ringed City, not even YT videos if he doesn't want to. It's the last piece of Dark Souls content ever but it's the Crown jewel of it. Noone needs to get harmed here.
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>>180595286
kill a what now
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>>180596321
Get over it dude. He wants monies from streaming other games, just let him be a E-celeb trasb elsewhere.
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>>180596321
all you need to do is leave this circus, who cares about some cuck
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>>180596443
Forlorns are NPC invaders that are added into Softs..
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>>180596443
Forlorn is a fun friend in Scholar that will randomly invade you at any time, anywhere. Don't underestimate this guy, especially the ones with the scythe.
As you continue killing them in random locations, Straid will start to sell their armor, and later their weapons.
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>there are people who actually have trouble with Crystal Sage

I just... I don't understand.
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>>180596803
The average player is a shitter
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>>180596612
>he wants monies from streaming other games
I accepted his rejection of Souls until he started streaming DS1 again. I'm taking it as a personal insult that he abandoned DS3 while continuing to play Dark Souls 1.

I guess none of the wishes of the people who supported him when he was doing DS3 mean anything to him.
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>>180597024
I don't understand why you give a shit. Dude is a faggot, get over it. At the end of the day he's his own person and it's entirely within his right to be a faggot.
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>>180596974
There has never been a playthrough where I didn't just run up to the crystal sage and spam attacks until he teleported over and over until he died. Dodging is practically optional. I'm not even sure that attack that makes crystals pop up DOES anything.
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So what's the princess dress of dark souls?
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>>180597184
some people just have sad lives and wish to involve themselves in others who, even when those are equally as stupid.
Best to just ignore shit relating to that faggot.
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>>180593141
INTJ, full strength or quality with no spells or one low investment spell
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>>180597024
Dude stop being a streamer fan, Christ. Honestly find someone else to waste money on, hell Lobosjr is better then him in every fucking way. And he has a job too, hell even he makes time and effort to help with charity.
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>>180597184
Fair enough then. I just find the autistic refusal to not do TRC when you're the figure best known for doing Dark Souls lore videos and your full time occupation is talking over video games. I will give it a rest and not discuss him again in this particular thread
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>>180597726
>Dude stop being a streamer fan
>proceeds to be a streamer fan

pot, meet nigger
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>>180593141
ISFJ
pure strength
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Which miracles should I focus on having for a high faith character? Are the lightning spears worth it at all? What about the lightning arrow?
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>>180597806
>I just find the autistic refusal

How about your autistic refusal of letting it go, you sub-human?
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>>180597873
Touché rei
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>>180597956
Lightning Arrow, Med Heal, and a weapon buff if your weapon can be buffed. Other options are Lightning Stake, Sunlight Spear and Replenishment.
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>>180597956
Arrow worth it, Projected heal, sunlight spear, great lighting spear, stake for shitters, moonlight buff and lighting blade as well.
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>>180597978
???
I just said I will let go for this thread.
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>>180598236
My bad dude.
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>>180597956
Sunlight Spear is essentially your most powerful ranged option. Lightning Arrow is your most annoying ranged option.

Great Heal is the most efficient healing spell per FP, Soothing Sunlight if you need to heal others in the middle of a fight.

Lightning Stake for melee range trading (be sure to poise cast it). Lightning Storm for melee range AoE.

WoG for being a dick on ledges.
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>>180597203
Let me, re-iterate.

People (humans, your race) are plenty.

Chances are, the majority is terrible at most things.

ie, things you might be better at

You fucking pineapple. I hate you. Its such a simple concept. Yet, it escapes you.
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>>180598284
It's okay.
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>>180598236
>I just said I will let go for this thread
>for this thread
>singular

You better not be implying semantics here.

Or i'll just sit here and scroll when I see it again.
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Stuck on darkeater, I refuse to summon.
What's a good one-handed weapon that has an r1 that reaches vertically?
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>>180598320
I pretty much never see people using WotG in 3, is the damage low or is it slow or what? I'm assuming they nerfed it since it was pretty insane in DaS1.
Also why do some low faith characters use force in duels? When is it worth using over an attack or roll? Only thing I can think of is casting it with a big strength weapon for a free hit if the cast is faster than the weapon swing.
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>>180598521
What's your build? In general the basic Straight Sword or any fast weapon moveset generally reaches high enough for Midir.

>>180598610
WotG is really slow and the damage isn't worth how slow it is compared to say Sunlight Spear. Force is useful for forcing knockdowns and creating space or giving time to use another attack.
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>>180598407
I bet you're that guy who tries to spoil people who ask for spoiler free advice. There's something wrong with you.
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>>180598727
Quality melee build, I'm 35 everything except in magic-related stuff
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>>180599026
I'd recommend perhaps a halberd than for range and vertical length, Splitleaf or Black Knight Glaive would be ideal for your build.
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>>180598070
>>180598195
>>180598320
What's the minimum FTH level I should have? 60? Is this only viable at SL120?
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>>180599348
Not at all, 100 builds are ok with this investment. But yes 60fth with either both or great boosting rings are needed for it.
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>>180599026
Wolf Knight's Greatsword, enjoy 20% extra damage and no need to buff it.
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>>180599497
I wasted the boss soul on the dumb farron greatsword fuck
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>>180596803
I felt this way until I played a sorcerer; died a few times to crystal sage and almost died to deacons too
I was investing way too much into int though and had base vig. Actually I'd guess a lot of people probably have extremely low vig early on which makes everything much harder. The game is a million times easier if you just invest in minimum offense stats and pump vig straight to ~27 as quick as possible.
With 10 vig and min stats for a broadsword+1 I was doing basically chip damage and the crystal sage sometimes will not teleport if you don't do enough damage, one soul spear from behind would kill me so I found it was better to attack the copies first if they were close.
I beat her on my first try at release though, she's crazy weak to basically any physical damage.
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>>180599763
Are you on PC? If you want I can get the other sword with my sorc and drop it for you cuz she's not gonna need either.
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>>180599909
Yeah I'm on PC, thank you, that would help me so much
Where do you want to meet & what password?
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>>180598486
I don't break my promises. But I don't tend to make very big promises either.
That said, if you buy a product with a one year warranty, most of the time that shit doesn't break immediately after the warranty expires,no?
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>>180598984
Wrong is subjective.

You run the risk of getting spoiled anywhere.

There's nothing wrong (subjective) with somebody not holding someone's hand in spoonfeeding.
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>>180599805
Wait the sages are female? It thought they were male twins!!
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Gonna make a hexer build in dark souls 2, any tips?

From what I know, hexes scale with int and fth so I should level those equally while also leveling attunement.
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Does killing the dogs in the water reserve lower your priority to get invaded for the pre-anor londo area? I'm seeing very few signs and I only got invaded once since I killed them. I was getting invaded nonstop before though.
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>>180600108
I believe it's one male, one female
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>>180600145
Killing the area boss who resides in anor londo ends the ability to get invaded.
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>>180600060
I mean, i'm not really expecting anybody to keep anything here so you can do whatever the hell you want.

Redundancy will eventually get you filtered. Whatever the fuck that may mean to you.
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>>180600094
You ARE that guy. I hope you know that you are so thoroughly disturbed that I can recognize you by your vitriol alone.
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>>180600039
Put your red sign at the high wall bonfire? I can summon reds with a ded boss right? password dsg
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>>180600113
Fire Longsword is a decent starting weapon for a hexer since I think Fire infused weapons also scale with INT+FTH.
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>>180598236
I hope so
You post this shit way too offen and people who give a shit about streamer sub humans have serious life problems
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>>180600472
I actually never got the red sign soapstone, give me like 3 minutes
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>>180600897
no problem, only asked you to do it because i haven't either lol
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Just started DS2 SOTFS for the first time. Was suprised at how easy the castle/wood area was, then I got to Heide's tower of flame. How am I meant to get through all these big bastards and the boss? I have 3 estus and am perpetually hollowed, playing a no shield run.
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>>180600967
Dropped my sign, pass is dsg
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>>180601287
the area is a lot easier before you kill the boss
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>>180599463
>100 builds
Why bother? You end up fighting against 125s anyway.
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is debug anon here?
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Thanks a ton for the sword friendo
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>>180600612
Are there any supplements to it like rings/armor that boost damage?
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Does killing red-eyed mobs refill your Estus or something?
Randomly noticed I regained a vial after killing the blue lothric knight
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>>180600465
I'm glad you can tell me apart, anon.

But assuming my psyche is disturbed from the way I type makes ME assume you're stupid.

I won't deny it though, as there is no reason to. That I do have an immense hatred for people.

See if you can spot me next time ;^)
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>>180601585
No problem pal
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Redpill me on DS2.

What's the best starting class? What sort of build do you recommend for a first timer?
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Post thoughts on areas for new characters as you go through them.

Cemetary of Ash :
Nice aesthetics, over pretty fast but goes down painlessly. Only annoying thing is the jump to the Estus shard.

High Wall :
Looks nice and Boletarian Palace-y. Getting gayrat breaks up the flow a bit but I love the feel and gameplay of High Wall.

Undeadt Settlement :
Well designed level but contains a lot of busywork and important shit.

Road of Sacrifices :
A snooze fest. I like levels with overgrown abd crumbling buildings mixed with forest but the ganeplay in here is meh though. The boss is okay.

Cathedral :
Good level, meh boss. Busywork at manageable levels.

Farron Keep :
Valley of Defilement 2.0. Or it would be if not overly generous bonfire placement.
A ton of boring but important busywork
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>>180601672
*redpills you*
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>>180601287
bring a weapon that does strike damage (buy a mace from the blacksmith in majula, there's a also a hidden morning star you can find) and upgrade it, it's very useful against armored enemies

there's a chainmail knight sitting in front of a chest outside the boss area, given your hollowed situation it might be a good idea to try and kill that guy to get to the chest

also remember that dark souls 2 is pretty open so if you're struggling in one area you can easily turn around and do something else, then come back later when you're higher leveled with better equipment
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>>180601672
it's bad. redpilled.
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>>180601672
>What's the best starting class?
literally doesn't matter because you'll be SL +150 near the end of the game, starting items matter more. explorer is a good pick if you must know.

>What sort of build do you recommend for a first timer?
anything but miracles, they died a long time ago
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>>180601772
*fucks your boipussy*
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Chime of want or sunset staff for hex build?
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>>180602057
Why wouldn't you use both?
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>>180601672
cleric; mace is a great starting weapon and access to extra healing should make getting used to the game a bit easier

get stats to min requirements of weapons you're interested in then focus on putting points in hp, adp and maybe endurance

apd gives you more iframes on your roll as well as making certain actions (e.g. drinking estus) happen sooner, however there are breakpoints associated with this and you should literally just open up a wiki before you put points in it, it's a terrible system but what can you do

it's also a good idea to dabble in magics of some kind, just get the min requirements to use what your interested in (e.g. if you want access to passive buffs like magic barrier or stuff like that)

also consumable items like firebombs and throwing knives are really good in this game and you should try and make use of them, likewise you really want some sort of ranged weapon as a backup since it can make a lot of stuff easier

also don't worry about messing up your build too much since there's a respec option that's easy to access early on
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>>180601635
I'm pretty sure specific enemies are marked to drop estus. Either that or there's a hidden pool of "estus points" that enemies give a specific amount of, and when it reaches a threshold it gives estus.
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>invade
>host ignores me
>keep trying to invite host to duel
>Duel Bow
>smash ground with my weapon
>host bows back and then proceeds to ignore me
>don't have the heart to just kill them

>show host the way to a treasure chest
>travel with host as they pick up a key item and light a new bonfire
>attempt again to challenge host to honorable combat
>host AVOIDS ATTACKING AN ENEMY BECAUSE I'M STANDING TOO CLOSE TO IT
>find cliff and an hero
I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
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>>180602101
limited titanite/petrified dragonstone
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Can anyone help me transfer a few items on ps4 plz?
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So does From bring anything new to the table with DaS3, or are they still rehashing shit to death?
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>>180601649
>assuming I'm disturbed because I say disturbing things in a disturbing way makes you look stupid
>I am disturbed though ;^)
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>>180602661
I'd start with the staff, the staff hexes are better for playing through the game with, then upgrade the chime.
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>>180602683
hello?
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>>180602735
>das1 is good
>das2 devs try to do something different
>game is """""""bad""""""" for being too different
>dark souls 3 devs take this critical response and make it more like the first game
>game is """"""""bad"""""""" for being too similar

souls fans are autistic
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>>180602751
There's nothing disturbing about my posts.

If you're disturbed by my post, I could always tell you to go back to your safespace/reddit.

Or would that be too cliche at this point? Either way. The redundancy that will come if I keep replying is not something I want right now.

Assume whatever you want, it means nothing. Bye.
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>>180603153
Can you put on a name so I can filter you like the tripfag you truly are?
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>>180603148
>Make bad changes
>Game is worse
hmmm really makes you think huh
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>>180602683
Anyone at all?
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>>180603148
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>>180603148
ds3 felt way more like demon's souls with dark souls 1 and 2 references than dark souls 1 to me.
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>>180603148
DaS3 is a textbook example of playing it safe. Nothing in the game looks new or exotic. It's all shit people have seen before.
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Is there anyone out there who can help me mule an item in ds2 sotfs
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>>180603148
Amen lol, now all we need is Armored/gundam/Ender core anon to bring a fucking history lesson on from. And how their quality was purely from AC and went down and that they hope you hope buy AC6!
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What's a good area for jolly co-op around 4 million soul memory?
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>>180605390
Soul memory? Platform?
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>>180604987
Really, I think the saddest thing regarding the Soulsborne genre is the fact that From basically Madden'd the development of those fucking games. Call Of DarkSouls. Iterative sequelitis.

Nothing bold. Nothing innovative. Start at Demon's Souls and strip off layers as you go. Same shit, different day, with a little bit less every time. The whole concept of the series itself slowly going hollow.
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>>180605830
Maybe it's a metaphor
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>>180605943

It's actually an ARG, and the game is to try to complete all the games and restore their video-gamey-ness before the series goes irreversibly hollow.
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>>180605712
PC

The source character is 1.1M
The destination character is 210K
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>>180605390
>>180605712
Be careful. The last time I asked dsg for help on ds2, the piece of shit just invaded and cheap shot poisoned me.
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>>180606210
Sorry, but I'm on PS4 and over 3 million SM.
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>>180606307
t-thanks anyway
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Give a good dual weapon to use /dsg/?
Are sellswords the only fun ones?
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>>180606475
Just power stance whatever you wan-

Oh, right.
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>>180606475
Fuck paired weapons, use powerstance instead
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>>180606262
Ha ha, sounds like dsg alright
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>>180606475
Gotthard's Twinswords are great.

Drang Hammers are good

2kat can be kinda fun.
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>>180606538
>>180606593
I am not going thru DS2 anymore

>>180606606
They seem pretty slow.
I WANT to use drag hammers, but no HA anymore kinda kill them
2 KAT are WAY to slow
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>>180606689
>I am not going thru DS2 anymore
Then have fun using literal gimmick weapons anon :^)
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>>180606689
Nah, Gotthard Twinblades have some super good comboing going on. They're only slow if you refuse to use anything that isn't as fast as a 2h curved sword.
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>>180606475
Gotthard's, Twinaxes, Sellswords, Valorheart, Quills and 2kat are all fun to use and have great DPS/movesets.
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>>180606787
Soul memory killed the game for me...
Sad really since everything in the game IS WAY MORE VARIED than anything in DS3.
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>yfw next soulsborne game is in space
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>>180607016
>Agape ring arguemt incoming
You've done it now anon, it's over. Should have just not replied.
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>>180606972
>>180606903
I am also looking for something with an answer to parries, like the G. twinblades L2 and sellswords L2 and that can be somewhat decent when invading a gank.
Can Twinaxes do that?

I answered my own question I guess.
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>>180607206
Twinaxes L2 is unparryable and has hyperarmor after the start-up, it does insane damage on its own as well.
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>>180607335
Will go ahead and try them!
Thanks!
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>tfw pirated dark souls 3 on launch and made a character I liked then lost it because i bought the game finally
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H-how long does it take to get through Blighttown? I don't handle scary in video games well and this area is scaring the shit out of me.
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>>180607414
you didn't save slider data?
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>>180607442
Around a hour. 15 minutes it your good. None since you can skip the damn place
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>>180607506
Unfortunately not I was retarded But looking through the characters slider sheet it looks like the character I made is on it. Or atleast one thats super similar.
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>>180607406
Just a tip to build them AR difference between 40/40 Refined and 40 Heavy alone is only 28 AR and 60 STR being only 5 points behind Quality.
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r8
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>>180608017
The WA is a pretty slow startup.
Now undecided between them and the 2KAT LMAO
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I fucking hate the rolling in 3. Fast rolling has almost no benefit over medium rolling because medium is already too good. They should reduce the i-frames on medium.
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>>180608307
Games last patch that has major changes occurred like a month ago. Stuck with it kid, gotta deal with it
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>see first chest in ds3
>oh cool must be a new wep

wew
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What's the quickest way to get a poison build in DS2. Just hit bastille, haven't done Heide's. Have Butterfly set but no weapon yet (or the shield).
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>>180608612
there are about 13 mimics in 3, they really overused them. see a chest? 70% chance it will kill you.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>180608936
and none of the ds3 dlcs are on sale
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>>180602542
>keep trying to invite host to duel
>don't have the heart to just kill them

why the fuck are you invading then? you don't seem very comfortable with forcing yourself into someones world to take their ember/obtain covenant rewards.
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Are any souls like games out for steam sale?
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>guy uses iron flesh
>thrown follower javelin bounces off
neat
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>>180608936
BAMCOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>180607206
Twinaxes are great for that. Beyblade attack can't be parried and has poise like a motherfucker.
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>still need at least another 10 levels before I can even use it

Wew. I also learned that Great Combustion is great for instantly breaking shields on shitters who hold up their shields all the time, with none of the telegraph of a kick.
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>trying to get 30 sunlight medals for great lightning spear
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why do some npcs attack each other in das3?
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Try again, could anyone help me transfer some gear on ps4?
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>>180609973
game? pass? memory? details anon
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>>180609973
Booting up King's Field
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>>180608612
>first chest
>all the way in the catacombs
how blind are you?
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>>180609973
sent :)
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>>180609692
I really wish that pyromancy was like the chaos ones where you only need 2 attunement slots and no other stat requirements.
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>>180609867
Abyss Watchers is one of the best bosses for that, you can trivialize it with an ultra by putting down the off-side Watchers as they're reviving, leaving only the main one and the red-eyed one that will occasionally aggro on him. I got literally every single one of my 29 Sunbro Medals in a day by doing that on one character.
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>>180610242
its the first one ive seen so far

but im stuck in the area cause i cant kill the fire demon
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>>180609973
Sent ;p
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>>180610541
you should have baited the fire demon to breathe fire on the mimic then watched as the mimic fucking annihilates the fire demon
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>rest at a bonfire
>see a full color ghost waving
that's cute

Those full color ones are real-time aren't they?
Just not in my level range.
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>>180610742
But I did, the mimic got 1 shotted by the fire.
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>>180609867
Super easy to do at vordt. I'd recommend every faith character to farm vordt or curse tree at the start of a play through for it.
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>>180609867
the easiest and most fun covenant item to farm; doesn't even matter what level you are, there's co-op at any level
it does get depressing when hosts get themselves btfo though
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R8 my build that was made using nothing but RNG
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>>180611043
>easiest and most fun covenant item to farm

Pretty sure dregs are the easiest, quickest, and most fun to farm.
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>>180611213
Anon, mundane infusions don't exist anymore
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>>180611213
No

God no

No no no
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>shadow garb + gael legs
m-my heart...
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>make a new character
>summon signs EVERYWHERE

What the fuck, is it like this every sale?
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>>180612701
Yes, mini revival before either the game conquers them and they quit. Or they conquer the game and move onto the next game of purchase or next Nintendo game.
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>>180609867
I farmed Aldrich for them.
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ledos is top tier. easy 3 shots and 2 shots
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Is there a current bug with game slow-down? Before the update I was playing well above 60 and now it feels like Im playing in slo mo
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>SL 25
>somehow get Blueberry summoned at High Wall
ah yes the Steam slaes are making summons much easier
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Guys im scared
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>soul of cinder doesn't react if you go in wearing nameless king armor
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>>180613837
Nice fashion.
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>>180613837
Just go. It'll be fine
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>>180613837
So this is the power of das3 torches...
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>>180614092
Stop being a pussy and fight man!
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>>180614092
the trick is the item is bait, you want to go towards the item then keep going forward as fast as you can
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What happens if I tell Anri Okita about the Smouldering Lake after killing Horace?
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>>180614273
She leaves a present at his death area. Then heads past the catacombs to a church dedicated to a memeber of the the city.
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anyone wanna kill champ gundy on ps4?
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>>180613368
You can literally downsearch to SL8+1, friend. The only way low-levels will escape you is if they started Deprived.
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>>180614273
she gives you a tit job and lets you blow your load all over her massive breasts
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>>180609973
Ah sorry, ds3/ ps4
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What the fuck is he dead?

I just showed up here and hes laying down
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>>180615127

hes just napping calm yourself nerd
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>>180615127
>he failed the quest
Enjoy the free candy, son. That's all you're gonna get out of him now.
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Ruh roh
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>>180615240
what quest???
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Who wants to buy me dks3 now that it's on sale please

id/lappalappa ;_;
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>>180615437
You need to let him beef jerky you five times and then queen jerky shows up to make you into the overlord of the jerky people when he dies.
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>>180614868
How do you know this though, im SL25+2, is it really that broad of a search spectrum?
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Is there any better feeling than cucking a blue out of his ear?
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>>180615598
>he can't afford $24
Skip a couple fucking meals and buy it yourself, you shitter.
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>>180616016
Was that you at the fucking Crux Woods?
I was fighting against a damn grape and 2 giant crabs, don't give me that bullshit.
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>>180615967
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/online
10% of your level, plus/minus 15 more. Weapon level plus/minus one, though you can theoretically enter the world of a host with +4.

I'm also pretty sure that you'll only get summoned to locations that you have already visited, so if you don't want to get summoned too high it helps to not explore too far ahead. Once I got summoned into Ariandel by the sheer fact that I'd been sent there by Gael and wanted to light the bonfire to have a way back.
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what's your guys favorite pve weapons/builds for DS2 (including the DLCs)?
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>>180616092
Nah I'm cucking in Carthus

But I would have done the same. I'm normally pretty okay about honourfagging, but I'll prioritise making blues suffer over pretty much everything else.
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Could some kind soul help me transfer some gear?
ds3
ps4
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>>180616490
im free
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>>180616092
>aggro'ing giant mobs
You do know that that's exactly what he wanted you to do, right?
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>it's a "Host thinks he can take the twink invader on his own and won't let me, the blue, take care of him with my gear" summon

>>180616682
the crabs aggro within a 50 meter radius, literally impossible to not aggros unless im out of the water, which i never am because i spawn in the middle of mob enemies anyways
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My kingdom for a UGS with GH R1s
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>>180616887
AGS
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>>180616937
Noice

Thanks senpai
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Neutral bystander here.

After all is said and done, Scholar of the First Sin is the best one to replay. Please subscribe.
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So humans are going to live on in a painting then?
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>>180616490

Sure, i dont mind helping. Where do you need?
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>>180609973
Why not just have your friends do it?
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We are now entering the bone zone
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>>180617415
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>no summon signs for champ gundyr
kill me
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>>180617224
don't that guy is a pos. Always posting 3dpd.
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>>180617789
git gud
>>
I love Steam sales

So many new scrubs to dunk

Welcome to Dark Souls
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Anyone care to help me kill Gundyr on Ps4?
Im trying to do a mid level Smough and i cant really kill late game bosses with a +2 Smoughs hammer with minimum strength
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>>180617224
high wall
[pass dsg
just wanna move some rings and sords from one char to another.
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>>180618208
I will if u transfer some gear for me.
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>Can't get past the barrier in Irithyll of the Boreal Valley
>Can't get past the giant worm and ballista in the smoldering lake

Have i reached an impasse? Is it time to buy that one key for 20k souls?
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>>180618418
That key is entirely optional.

Explore more, you skipped at least one entire required area.
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So, I'm sorta-kinda trying to make a thing, but it still sort of fucking sucks. What needs to be added/removed/modified?
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>>180616360
Sacred Chime Hammer is my current weaponfu, but it's hard to go wrong with a UGS against non-armored enemies.
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>>180616628
>>180618224
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>>180618404

Alright. Ill transfer that gear for you if you help with gundy after. Ill move to highwall now.
Put your red sign down i guess? Or what would you like
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>>180618418
you missed a super secret boss somewhere back in crucifix forest buddy
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>>180618850
put your red down m8 cheers
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>finally I'm not one of the seething newfags
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>>180618850
password dsg
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>>180616062
I literally would if I could, you're being rude
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>>180619283
And you're being a shitter by asking for charity on an anonymous Tibetan knitting board.

Learn to make your own income, you can only ask your parents for money for so long.
>>
>Faggot host resummons his buttbuddy three times
>Every single time he tries to quickstep behind me and gets autokilled by my charged R2 because he doesn't understand how tracking works
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>>180617789
Good. Champ Gundyr is arguably the best fight in the game. One of those "I hope you understand the game's mechanics" bosses that tests whether you actually know your shit or not.
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>>180618623
>lvl adaptability
lost me.
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>>180616062
>a couple fucking meals
>$24
Skipping a whole week of food is not an option.
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>>180617789
just parry him bro
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>>180617789
>issues with gundy
i love that boss so much
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>>180618623
Change the title, what does for 'complete shitters' even mean in this context? Just say for newbies or something.

Point one, I'd say it's the complete opposite since gear for any build can be found early while starting stats can make a world of difference depending on what you want to play, you wouldn't recommend a newbie start Mage for example unless they know where to get spells.

Point two, not necessary at all especially for DLC stuff where casting is actually a bad idea.

Point three, add the Agility softcaps so players know when to stop leveling ADP/Attunement.

Point four, not really necessary.

Point eight add that you can buy it from Straid in Lost Bastile.

On the Covenant of Champions add that you can't summon white phantoms or be summoned as one while it is equipped.

Point twelve, a nitpick but change it to MOST infused weapons can still be buffed.

Add in the powerstance section that it costs two times the stat requirements of a weapon.

I'd cut line 21 entirely since boss parries in two are really bad for the most part and not worth it but that's my opinion.

On Bonfire Ascetics write that NG+ areas spawn extra enemies, have certain bosses dropped +2 rings and respawns not metal chest loot.

Otherwise looks good.
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>>180619802
He's fucking stupid. He never stops attacking and parrying is a dice roll. He's basically 'win 20 dice rolls in a row' - the boss.
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>>180619502
but you're not my parents

please
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>>180619985
You're shit at the game and a generally terrible person.

Gundyr is a pretty hard boss. He's also one of the most fun bosses and definitely the most stylish.
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>>180617789
>>180619985
Never mind, maybe he wasn't so hard after all, heh...
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>Phantom is named Yuria
>has the clothes
>uses a Black Knight Sword instead of Dark Drift
why do these people hate being accurate in their retarded cosplays?
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>>180620432
To be fair, Darkdrift is garbage.
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>Invade perfect Alva and Zullie cosplays
>Can't bring myself to kill them
>Take frustration out on random blue and then black crystal out
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>>180620718
Truly the best Pairing, from Drangleic all the way to the end of the Timeline/Age of fire. Gotta love those two love rabbits.
>>
Why do blues get so much hate?
>>
Jesus, they REALLY ramped up the difficulty in Earthen Peak in DS2. These headless knife guys are fucking me up hardcore. I can't get far enough to cast or close enough to get damage in without being poisoned or ganked by the second mob.
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>>180621129
Because invaders are assholes who hate having their kill taken away. It's been a meme to hate the police since launch anyway. Stick with it to unclock some shit, or leave won't make a difference. Also don't read too much into the meme.
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>>180621129
Not hate, people think they're bad because they die so often.
But they basically have half less advantage than the invaders since enemies still harm them, and they have less estus than the host
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>>180621217
In Scholar, rather. I breezed through this place in vanilla DS2.
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>>180620810
>Zullie's dress isn't open-back
Literally the only problem I have with this image.
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>>180621129
Blues are invariably terrible players and most of them are only doing it to get Darkmoon Blade for muh duels. They play on tilt almost all the time and often have terrible builds. Not to mention that it's basically built in ganking, though to be fair they have halved estus AND environmental hazards.

Killing them sends them right back to the silver knight genocide hellscape that they previously existed in.

It's fun to hate the police.
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>>180620291
Post tits
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>>180621129
Because invading is fun, and blues exist to end that fun. Also, they're usually super desperate to get Ears, and it's fun to kill them to deny them that.

>>180621267
To be fair, they have to basically be ready to respond to any possible situation since they can't choose when and where where they're going to end up being summoned. It also doesn't help when they get some shitter host who rushes headlong into that Fire Witch and those two Pontiff K***hts because they somehow think they're invincible now that they have a blueberry or two behind them.
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>>180621129
I don't hate blues. I think they're cute, in a sad sort of way. They're always so desperate to get a kill that they just mash five R1s in a row with their dark sword and then eat a wombo combo and die instantly.
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Does the Great Wooden Hammer have the same R1 > L1 > R1 combo as the Spiked Mace?

I don't want to up my dex any further.
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>>180621947
Yes.
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>>180621983
Neato
>>
Although actually, would it be worthwhile to drop from 30 end to 27 just to use the Spiked Mace? It seems much better.
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>>180621129
Who hates them? I think they are the best. Can't even count the times I've been rushed by some blueberry, eager to hand me the best covenant item and a bit of free estus. BLUES=BROS. I'm almost tempted to make a darkmoon called CONCESSION STAND. A pity I'd get summoned almost exclusively for twinks who don't really need the refill
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>>180622681
It does way more damage than the Great Wooden Hammer and is longer. Great Wooden Hammer damage is only serviceable if you get the full combo with DMB on or something.
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>>180619802
I don't see why people have so much trouble with him. I found him to be the easiest of all the late game bosses and one of the most fun in the game. I didn't need to parry I just ninja flipped around him with my yhorm's hammer and offhand dark sword.

Right now I am sl 80 and still get really quick summons for him. When does that drop off since I think I might want to lv up a bit more for the demon prince.

I like fighting him as a phantom and he's an easy source for embers since hosts rarely die to him.
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>>180622805
Guess I'll drop the end then. I feel like I have almost too much anyway. Even with 27 I should still have enough for 4 R1s if I really need it.
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>people keep saying poise is dead
>literally been relying on poise with my current armor and weapon (perseverance)
>outplaying dagger users and straightsword R1 spam
you idiots can keep complaining about poise but you're all fucking wrong.
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Holy shit this thing is amazing.
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>>180623493
Nobody who knows how poise works is complaining about poise
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>>180623493
Perserverance has nothing to do with the poise stat.
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>>180621217
Difficulty is supposed to get harder as you go further from Majula, and as you unlock each path

Sinner Path < Freja Path < Iron King Path < Rotten Path

So the second area if the sinner path (Lost bastille) is roughly as difficult as the first area of the freja path. (Shaded woods).

So earthen peak is about equally hard as:
>Harder than anything in the sinner path
>Brightstone Cove / Doors of Pharros
>Earthen Peak
>The pit/gutter

What you did by going to earthen peak early is skip ahead forward a little in difficulty.
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>>180623520
>tfw will never get swordcery poisecasting
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mimics are misunderstood
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>>180623757
no but it's been a factor in the way i do combat as well
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>>180623493
Poise doesn't work. The way it used to. Some people adapted, others got butthurt they couldn't be poisemonsters wielding katanas any more. Though to be honest, a bit of weak standing poise wouldn't hurt, as long as you can tank anything more than a single ss r1 with full Havel's
>>180623520
Funniest spell in PvP, "YOU HERETIC"ing fags in the face is GOAT
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>>180624070
people need to realize poise was changed for the better, if it was the same as DS1 we'd have the same fucking meta
a Havelmom with Zwei and retarded poise that requires no thought
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BOISE
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>>180623896
>no blue flame
but WHY
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>it's a "red phantom tries to keep parrying my attacks until he's at 30hp then pulls one off and Dark Hands me" summon
real tired of these no skill fags trying to diceroll their way through the game
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>>180624183

OH FUG :DDDDD
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>>180624212
NO FUN ARROWED
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Damnnn

I lured the Black Knight over here where the phantom "Knight Slayer" Tsorig spawns, and the black knight fucked him UP!

Like, he repeatedly kept sweeping him up into the air back to back 4 times in a row until he died.

I wish I could've recorded it
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>>180624675
someone post the gif
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>>180624602
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How much more damage will I get going from 40 to 60 faith? Is there a calculator for this?
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>>180624704
here he is

>>180624751
I used a greatsword and I had to rely on oddly timed charge attacks to keep him fucking up the parry
then he managed to time it right as I let go of my trigger and got it, really rustled my jim jams because he was literally spamming parry as he lost all his hp
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>>180624675
It's well known that Tsorig chokes like a bitch when it counts

He doesn't have SHIT on my man Black Iron Tarkus
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>>180624939
Yeah, parryfags are when you unzip borts/ugs/spin slash weapon of your choice
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>>180624143
But that's not the meta in 1 either
>>180624939
After a point it's kind of of your fault for not using unparriable attacks. You show the hook and still ate the non existent bait
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>>180624939
>greatsword
It can't be parried though.
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>>180623765
Lost Bastille was easy as shit compared to this. It's my first playthrough on Scholar, not first DS2 run. I wasn't expecting all the poison shit.
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>>180625227
that's what I thought until he parried my downward swing
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>>180625270
>Harder than anything in the sinner path = harder than lost bastille

What poison shit? That was in base DS2.

Use your lifegems, burn the windmill, stop rushing into areas. You never have to fight more than 2 of the manikins at a time and they never spawn together.

Or just leave and do brightstone cove and come back later.
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>Invade
>Host is being really catty, running around upper Irithyll and avoiding me
>Manage to almost kill him a few times
>This continues for about five minutes
>Suddenly a gold phantom with infinite iframes turned on opens the shortcut gate and curses me with his katana

Dude was literally letting his friend clear the zone for him while he jerked off by the Yorshka bonfire. I can't believe it.
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>>180625393
only running and roll attacks can be parried from ugs.
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>>180621129
Blues failed to adapt the way reds did, you'll never see a blue come equipped with a bow to aggro mobs one at a time, you'll never see a blue with a good distribution of Ashen:Estus to maximize heals. Don't listen to people saying blues have it harder, real players don't have an aggro range, they still have the advantage they've just failed to seize it.
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I want to protect Yorshka
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>>180625716
I want to feed Yorshka a sandwich so she doesn't starve to death
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>>180593102
Thanks, just got it from someone, played DK1 years go on Xblocks, I hope that I can finally push myself to vary a bit my playstyle.
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>>180625227
Greatsword can be parried.

Not THE Greatsword, but greatswords as a weapon class.
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>>180625664
Have you ever got summoned as a blue? You can't pull mobs one at a time when you get summoned into a pack of dogs or heralds
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>>180625952
Moreover, you don't have the time, because while you piddle about killing dogs, the host is getting dunked on by a red, who are generally far better players.
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>>180625631
sorry friend i think you misunderstood, i was using a type of greatsword weapon, not the UGS called Greatsword
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>>180626064
That's why it's better to just put down a sign and gank invaders. Don't have to worry about finding the host or spawning behind enemy lines.
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>>180625716
Why is her ingame model so fucking ugly and gross?
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>>180624939

BLACKED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upBb7SgyHpg
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>>180626258
Blues are doing it for ears, are you retarded?
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>>180626338
>abyss watcher 0:37
He's just standing there.... MENACINGLY
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>>180626258
>everyone using a gs
thanks M
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>>180626064
On the other hand, I've seen blues pull the ENTIRE Carthus Catacombs population and rush towards the host. I didn't even have to do anything. They both died to wheel skeletons and carthus gravewardens.
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>>180626341
not all. Some people like being heroes
>>180626501
Pose is fun
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>Co-opping with guy at Spear of the Church with Patches
>The summoned spear just walks around the arena the whole time avoiding us
>Rolls whenever we get near, runs when we chase, etc
>Finally do enough damage to spawn the second Painting Guardian
>He finally pulls out a Dragonslayer Greataxe and rushes us when we're busy with the PG
>When he's separated from the PG I stunlock it to death with charged UGS r2s
>Goes back to playing passively and rolling while still being somewhat aggressive
>Finally get him to a sliver of health
>Corner him into one of the pillars
>He manages to roll through the overlapping attacks of 2 players and one bot for at least 6 seconds just by spamming roll in place before finally losing that tiny little bit of health
I really want to enjoy this game, but it seems like it's trying to annoy me at every turn
>inb4 did you rike?
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>>180626258
Anybody else hate that body jiggle you get with the Hollowslayer and Drakeblood GS attacks?
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>>180626607
You had two phantoms for the pvp boss. Did you expect him to commit to attacks knowing that you could kill him with a team stunlock when he does so?

Honestly you deserve the salt, faggot
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How do I get Horace to spawn?
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>>180626756
did you beat the Deacons at the Cathedral?
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>>180626756
When Anri is in the Catacombs Horace spawns down there.
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>>180626791
The what at the where?
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>>180626839
go explore more, fight the super secret boss, then fight another boss made up of tiny bosses, and then go to firelink, talk to Anri there, then head to the skeleton dungeon, find Anri crying in the corner.
then head to the bridge and talk to Anri there.
AND THEN, YOU CAN FIGHT HORACE
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Are you guys ready to admit TRC was good or are you still asspained that there isn't a closing cutscene?
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>3AM
>'Okay one more invasion and I'm out'
>Six hours later

I have a problem
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>>180626839
in the swamp before the swamp there is a building that you did not adequately explore.
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>>180626714
I was one of the phantoms and we still killed him anyway

Besides Spears have health and absorption buffs that lower damage taken considerably and a poise buff that greatly increases hyperarmor (the effects become stronger per phantom) so it's not like he'd be instakilled if he threw out an attack. If anything his buffs would allow him to power through all of our attacks and instakill us instead.
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>>180627236
HOT
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>>180627138
Haha, no. You were part of a ganksquad.
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how the fuck do i get better anti-aliasingin this game on PC???
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>>180627236
AHAHHAAHAH
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>>180627317
The few times he did attack us he nearly killed us outright.

Also, true. The Spear fight is a gank, but a gank that's a little more balanced than normal ganks.
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>>180627236
What does witch pussy smell like.

@Zullie
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>>180627446
with your gpu control panel
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>>180627236
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>>180627446
>tfw i've got about 200 hours of this game but have been playing at 30-40fps
the only place i've had 60fps was the bridge where the demon is above the wolf covenant

man i can't wait until i get a better GPU to experience this game in 60fps
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>>180627715
doesn't seem to do anything, neither on enhance nor on override
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>wander around in a blizzard aimlessly until you eventually run out of estus from the respawning horses that you can't fucking see until it's too late

How the FUCK was this area greenlit?
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>>180627446
>tfw have patrician sense of aesthetics and actually prefer AA off
Ahh, feels good having free fps.
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>>180627446
>video card settings
>override AA

easy peasy. First thing I did playing DS3. the default AA in DS3 is fucking -awful-.
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>>180623765
I've always done Sinner = Old Iron King -> Rotten -> Freja. Old Iron King path always felt like the one that they intended for you to do first, since it's easily the longest one.

>>180625664
>tfw I've gotten numerous Ears and more BCs from doing exactly that
Sometimes I don't even care that I don't get the Ear, just denying the red his kill(s) by keeping the host alive and safely destroying mobs without risking myself is satisfying enough. In my eyes, forcing a red to BC is the same as a ragequit disconnect.

If you play a blue like a Sunbro, the calculus changes a lot.

>>180627112
Literally nobody thinks TRC was bad, it more than made up for the trainwreck that was AoA.
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>>180627236
>piss, shit and blood from god knows how long in a dirty dungeon cell with probably no latrine
>dsg: dicks out
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>>180627446
>>180627846
Here's what I have it set to. It's definitely working.
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>>180627914
>shit
Cute girls don't poop.
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>>180627852
>not looking for the ruined buildings in the distance to take cover in
>not using your ears to listen for the incoming clomping of hooves
>not using your Lifegems instead
>not summoning in the AI phantoms to tank for you
That area is literally a shitter filter. Congratulations for identifying yourself.
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>>180627236
get that fucking bitch out of my shrine harem
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>>180627852
Because it's actually an extremely atmospheric and creative area?

Going to frozen outskirts, to me, felt like taking the chains off. I could finally breathe and finally push my character and the game to its limits. That's its point. In a series where all the enemies are obviously in front of you and all the areas are walled off entrapped dark dungeons, Frozen Outskirts is a wide, open, terrifying area with no direction given where you can easily get lost and fuck up if you aren't paying attention.

Navigating the blizzards and discovering new things in frozen outskirts is honestly one of the most rewarding souls experiences I have ever had
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I wish I had more ring slots. I'm fucking sick of ringswitching constantly.
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>>180628058
>>180628267
didn't know /b/ team browsed dsg
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>>180628378
I still think it should get reduced to two
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>>180627910
Look at the soul rewards from bosses and the minimum amount of souls you need to open each path. Sinner requires none, freja requires 12k for the branch, iron king requires beating a boss (12k) and paying for a shortcut (3k), rotten requires leveling health and buying the silvercat ring (15-20k).

Enemies in iron keep also drop more souls than the enemies in lost bastille and brightstone cove, but not as much as black gulch.
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>>180627852
>WILLINGLY playing DS2 when DS3 exists
you have no right to complain, you knew what you were getting yourself into
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>>180627910
>trainwreck
It wasn't THAT bad. I liked it. TRC was pretty much perf tho
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>>180627914
time is convoluted, she's probably never had her period,
she poops in a corner, it's all 100% pussy musk
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>>180628389
I'm sorry you enjoy games where you are handheld through areas with simple hallways, handed motivation on a silver platter by NPCs, don't need to change equipment beyond your starting class and are shown big obvious boss weak points.
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Is this a good starter build for a struggling DS player?

I played most of the first one with infinite health/stamina and I want to try playing this one without it.
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>>180592931
>best at
>dungeon crawling and exploration
What do you stand to gain from fooling people?
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>>180628639
Yeah seems solid
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>>180628389
The people that whine about Horsecock Valley, are just unwilling to adapt to how it works. And adapting to what the game throws at you is what Dark Souls is all about.

Did you not notice that the reindeer will spawn at predictable intervals? Or that they only spawn when you're not under cover? Sure, their attacks are annoying as fuck, but they are by no means un-counterable, and in fact they're pretty easy to kill once you realize you can knock them down with ultra weapon R2s.

For most people, yes it is a very unpleasant experience. But it's still a better one than Iron Passage or Memory of the Old Iron King. And it's significantly more creative than Cave of the Dead.
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>>180628650
DS1 punishes you with heavy difficulty spikes for going to areas off the beaten path. DS3 doesn't let you go to those areas at all. They also have less loot overall than than DS2 where you have actually useful items and can items/bosses for more loot.

DS2 is the only game in the series (except maybe DeS) where you can pick between 2-4 levels to go to at any time and revisit old levels at a higher difficulty. This makes it objectively a better game for dungeon crawling and exploring the world.
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>>180628639
>that "I want to experience the story and lore and nothing else" shitter actually wanted to continue on to DaS2
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>>180628639
You're not a struggling DS player, you're a struggling DS cheater.

If you don't want to play the game, don't play it. This build is fucking awful too, since you'll get your shit wrecked by the many, many bosses with elemental resistances and you have none of the very powerful buffs/spells available to you.

If you just want the lore/story, go watch vaati's videos or a let's play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD-rgHP7RdE&list=PL57hJfweW_2t9hMXgGAYZF46ouOlvXy5b

this is more your style maybe.
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what happens to yuria if you kill anri?
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>>180628639
>""""""""""""""""""""""Build""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>180628784
>beat a boss at a low SL
>can now go there
>can get good loot
What are you even talking about.
You can get to Archdragon Peak at a low SL just like how you can in Dark Souls 1, a boss fight isn't a brick wall you can't pass, unless you're... BAD.
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>>180628639
Why even play the game if you're going to pump every relevant stat right at the start? Uninstall and watch a let's play.
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>>180628893
She straight-up vanishes.

If you want Anri's sword, just ask an anon to drop it for you.
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>>180628428
it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't have rings like prisoner's chain and fap
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>>180628969
DaS1 has an "intended" path for the player to take, but doesn't stop them from "sequence breaking" with the Master Key if they so wish.

But DaS3 doesn't even let you do much sequence breaking at all unless you use exploits. It has a clearly defined straight line with two or three branches. Your example doesn't even make sense since you'd need to beat Dancer, navigate Consumed King's Garden and beat Oceiros, all of which are late-game bosses, and you can't even complete that one until you take the enforced Und*** Settlement -> Crucifixion Woods -> Cathedral of the Deep -> Farron Keep -> Catacombs of Carthus -> Irithyll of the Boreal Valley -> Irithyll Dungeon path that the game lays out for you.

DaS2 has its own share of problems, but linearity is the last one on that list.
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>>180628639
>cheating at souls games
>cheating in an action rpg with nonlinear progression
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>>180628784
>DS1 punishes you with heavy difficulty spikes for going to areas off the beaten path.
Yes, it does. Are you implying this is bad?

Most importantly, it lets you wander into many areas without fighting any bosses at all. It's sequence breaking at its best. 2 provides a flanderized experience with 3 or 4 optional dead-end paths with each area featuring a dumbed down boss for accessibility, undermining the appeal of sequence breaking.

>They also have less loot overall than than DS2 where you have actually useful items and can items/bosses for more loot.
Granted I haven't bothered with SOFTS, but vanilla had nothing of value anywhere before the soul paywall.
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h-hes gonna get bored and leave right?

i got inkvaded
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>>180628969
I don't think you even read my post. It has nothing to do with bosses, it has to do with the reasons why you would go off the "intended" path in the first place. DS1 actively punishes you with difficulty spikes, arbitrary mechanics, and hard progression walls (yellow fog gates /covenant of artorias) that prevent you from fully exploring most levels even if you have the master key. You can't just pick a place to go and -go- there without getting punished for it. DS3 doesn't even let you do that, with the sole exception of killing dancer early.

You CAN dungeon crawl in every souls game, but that doesn't mean DS1 or DS3 are good for it or reward players for attempting exploration. They just punish you for not going where you're supposed to be for your level.

DS2 doesn't require beating any bosses to go explore the first third of the game, the loot is much more varied and actually useful, the difficulty doesn't spike if you go off the beaten path.

DeS is probably the only game with better exploration and pathing options than DS2.
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>>180629206
>beat Dancer
>get rewarded for doing something that takes skill to do at current SL
>get great loot because of it
i really don't see the issue here.
You want to be rewarded by opening a locked door?
Well DS3 rewards you for beating bosses at an unintended SL level
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>get hollow gem in farron keep
>can't use it till yorhm
Fucking LOL
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>>180629306
equip Way of Blue covenant and a Blue will gladly kill him for you
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Man splitleaf is such an amazing weapon, with 66 str and blessed weapon if you make one mistake you're going to lose your entire health bar...
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>>180592762
Why did you change the Read me before posting?
Give me the discord link
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>>180629389
I did now what?

How long until he auto disappears?
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>>180629248
>DS1 punishes you with heavy difficulty spikes for going to areas off the beaten path.
>Yes, it does. Are you implying this is bad?
No, I'm implying it's a limitation on exploration. If you enjoy games where you can freely explore a world without hitting difficulty spikes or needing to solve arbtrary puzzles or acquire keys, DS2 is much more aligned with that kind of thinking. You can pick a path, go down it, but then return at any time to restock, heal, and count your spoils. DS1's lack of bonfire warping, heavy reliance on keys, and the difficulty spikes all greatly diminish the exploration options most players have, especially if they didn't get the master key.

>>180629324
Sequence breaking isn't exploration. Beating dancer early is a sequence break, deciding to kill freja before lost sinner is not. Neither is throwing a bonfire ascetic on cardinal tower because you want chunks and to re-fight pursuer in early game.

A sequence break lets you skip ahead before returning to the intended path. DS2 doesn't punish you for going somewhere else and you are under no obligation to stick with your choice or return back to the original path. Giving the player to trade one area for another area is NOT the same as making both areas available and optional.
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>>180629527
Just play the waiting game, he's an invader right? he was red?
because you mightve been invaded by a Watchdog which is blueish red and you might not get a COp to appear
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Why is Lapp hollowing in the Ringed City while Patches still squats his ass in the same spot every time I go back to Firelink Shrine?
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>>180629624
Bonfires can time travel
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>>180629624
Time is convoluted.
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>>180629624
the ringed city is one million years in the future
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>>180629596
>>180629389
FUCK YOU CUNT I JUST GOT INVADER BY ANOTHER BLUE

holy shit that was brutal, I just ran in circles around the crab.
At least I took one of those fuckers down with me
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>>180629340
So much shit in DaS3 that isn't super strong or anything is locked away in late game areas.
Gives me conniptions.
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>>180629669
but the world is the same decay ridden place at the start of the game
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>>180629483
no shit, that's a fucking four hit true combo on a weapon with ~650 AR when buffed and 2 handed.
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>>180629312
>They just punish you for not going where you're supposed to be for your level.
Or rather they reward you for overcoming a higher challenge with important items.

>>180629570
>If you enjoy games where you can freely explore a world without hitting difficulty spikes
I don't. What's the point? Where's the value? A world tailored for you no matter where you go is boring, anyone who played a Bethesda game in the last decade can tell you that. Couple that with the lack of incentive to go different paths and you end up with no replay value.
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>>180629848
also how did he know I was hidding there with that one item??
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>>180629340
>get two Chaos Gems in Smouldering Lake
>can't actually use them until right before Aldrich
>same for any Lightning Gems acquired long before
This is why muling is a thing, I suppose.

>>180629497
Nobody should ever try to join the discord. Whoever made the previous thread was some shitter who altered the readme.
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>>180630017
Don't be sad you're not around for fight club fun anon. I'm sure one will be hosted in your time zone some day
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>>180618418
You went the wrong way from Road of Sacrifices. There's another route from Road of Sac.

>>180613960
Why would he? SoC is not Gwyn, he is everyone ever who linked the fire.

Nameless King not reacting in any way to you wearing Sunlight armor or having the Sunlight warrior covenant on kinda bugs me though. It also bugs me how sunlight warriors get rewarded for killing their god. They should only be able to invade at ADP.
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>>180629920
>Or rather they reward you for overcoming a higher challenge with important items.

With important items that you would get later anyway when you could have gone there when you're stronger.

DS1/DS3 are like 5 course meals where you can eat the later courses early, but only if you do it without silverwear and you aren't allowed to finish until you go back and eat the other courses too. With some being optional.

DS2 is a menu of 5 meal options where you are under no obligation to finish or eat in any particular order, as long as you eat enough to be satisfied before finishing. Plus you can ask for seconds if there's one option you really like.

See the difference?

>I don't.
That's fine. Some people do. That's why open world games exist, along with ones with non linear gameplay. You'd probably hate Demon's Souls since it lets you go to any archstone and doesn't force you to play a predetermined narrative. The point is, if you want to really explore a wide world and never feel forced down a single path, DS2 offers the fewest barriers to that. It's the best souls game for that level of freedom of progression, that's what it is best at.
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>>180629389
>equip Way of Blue covenant and a Blue will gladly flail at him and die for you
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>>180630183
He hollow as fuck.
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>>180630017
>talks about muling
>shitting on the discord
a certain kind of shitter.
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>>180629848
don't get mad when you don't understand the game.
that was a Watchdog invader, Blues can't help you.
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>>180630183
He's not their boss anymore after announcing his furry tendencies.
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>3 trophies left before platinum
>all rings, gestures, miracles
Why must everything be locked behind a string of convoluted NPC interactions and broken covenants? This is painful
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>>180630209
>With important items that you would get later anyway
Yes, that's the point of sequence breaking.

>DS1/DS3 are like 5 course meals where you can eat the later courses early, but only if you do it without silverwear and you aren't allowed to finish until you go back and eat the other courses too. With some being optional.
It's the other way around. 1 is more open ended in the areas you get to access early with the Master Key while 2 has you commit to bosses to progress. Plus you just described the soul paywall, which I'm pretty sure gated more areas than Sen's or the piss walls before O&S.

>You'd probably hate Demon's Souls since it lets you go to any archstone and doesn't force you to play a predetermined narrative.
I don't know where you're getting that from when I'm advocating for sequence breaking, but okay.

>The point is, if you want to really explore a wide world and never feel forced down a single path, DS2 offers the fewest barriers to that.
In a very shallow sense, I guess? You get 3 or 4 dead-end paths with 2 to 5 areas, then you're forced to take down the four bosses or farm Rotten to open the gate which gives you another round of paths. It just lets you pick the order, which hardly matters at the start since they're all balanced to be tackled by fresh characters.
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>>180630543
it's pretty simple if you enjoy the game and use google
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Quick, post the character you are currently playing with!
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>>180631102
Grinding concord ears and meticulously adhering to every NPC quest that can be broken by sneezing in the wrong direction makes the endeavor kind of not enjoyable, famalam.

Doing it all in NG+ so it feels like a drag after having fun cruising through NG
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>>180631131
You're not funny with your pepe character, no one gives a shit. Stop trying to make pseudo conversation as an excuse to post an image of it. It's lame and sad. End your pathetic life.
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>>180593141

ESTP and all of my builds are quality with an odd caster thrown in.
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Am I a shitter for leveling to 125 or do all the cool kids do it?
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>>180631131
>I'M SO FUNNY WITH MY FROGCHARACTER X)
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>>180631382
>>180631558
thats shrek you retards
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>>180629992
He was a member of the Watchdogs of Farron, therefore by nature a highly trained feral assassin who would do whatever it takes to protect the honorable warriors who slumber in the Keep. You didn't stand a chance, kid.
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>>180631689
>feelsgoodman
>"shrek"

Unironically kill yourself
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>>180631523
>not leveling to 351+

It's the new meta where everyone and no one is overpowered at the same time.
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>>180631689
heh nice ; ) got me
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>>180631847
>when everyone's super, no one will be
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>>180593141
ISTP and god damn this image is accurate.
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>>180630990
>It just lets you pick the order, which hardly matters at the start since they're all balanced to be tackled by fresh characters.
Nigga that's explicitly the point his making, DS2 has better exploration because it's actually balanced around the idea of doing areas in a different order, DS1 let's you sequence break but the only thing you achieve with it is fucking yourself out of content, you can skip the lower and upper undead burgh, hell you can skip doing the bells alltogether but the only reward for doing is getting to anal rodeo faster and being more unprepared for it.

Exploration being encouraged = a lot of areas that are around the same difficulty
Exploration discouraged = areas soft gated by having far far far more dangerous enemies than other options that the character has available.

Can you explore in DS1 and do the game in a fucked up order? Obviously yes. Is doing the sens fortress gate skip something you encourage to a person new to the series as a totally legit progression path? Fuck no because he is taking on one of the midgame areas with a +5 weapon at best when he isn't even familiar with the game mechanics.
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>>180631382
What crawled up your ass?
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>>180631523
last I checked everyone was now at 140
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>>180631847
>level 351
I thought this pvp level was just a meme
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>>180632719
Since when? I thought 100-120 was the pvp hotspot
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>>180592762
>All this new shitters posting about ""first mimics"", ""super hard"" Bosses like Champ or epic memes they recognize in the series
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>>180593141
>INTJ

I tend to pick out a weapon or spell I like and build my character around it, instead of having a general stat I invest on.
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Be honest how many of you when you first bought the game and tried out the farron great sword realized in that moment that pairing it with iron flesh would be hilariously cheesy.

I feel like everyone who had played a dark souls game before 3 had that to have had that thought.
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Man, people just heal at pontiffs now, dont they. Had 3 fights there, and ive just had 3 people heal when theyre low.
Im a fatrolling smough, its not hard to win
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>>180633345
I'd rather have excited newfags than jaded and bitter oldfags who do nothing but complain.
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>>180633283
shitters can't stop saying 'just a few more levels'
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>>180633345
the idiot /b/ memers aside, i enjoy seeing the new players get excited, mad, and amazed at the game, like the guy posting here with his pisspants knight of want
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>>180633661
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>>180633396
fuckin guilty as charged
i still remember because i got the weapon and i was testing it out by back tracking and exploring the swamp, and i was just spamming the L1 button and i thought to myself "man wouldn't it be fuckin sweet if i took like no damage during this and it was uninterruptible?"

literally 2 minutes later i found iron flesh and just had the biggest shit eating grin on my face.

I miss the early days when the arena was basically a dance floor.
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>>180633551
>>180633661
Agreed. Excited new cuties and others that are genuinely enjoying the game are like the antidote to toxic whiners like >>180633345
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>>180631131
Ebin maymay/10

R8 my thundergod
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>After dozens of hybrid builds i finally decide to make a pure melee build
man being able to just level like 2 things is amazing, its like playing easy mode
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Under the armor
>>180633991
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>>180592762
Do you find any 6 men Brawls?
I never find any
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Ashes of Ariandle isn't on sale, and I really don't want to pay $15 for a quicker way to Ringed City other than beating the whole game.
Should I just whore myself out for the money or wait?
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>>180634105
how broke are you niggers in this thread, every other hour und somebody writes this or offers to suck somebodys dick
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>>180634105
>playing only part 2/2 of a 2 part dlc
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>>180631847
SL 351+ is just SL150 except you don't have to respec each time you want to swap equipment.

And SL120 is just SL150 except you suffer a 20% damage penalty on your secondary stat.
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>>180634064

LORDRAN
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>>180633202
he's right though

more people get banned for being tricked by cheaters than actual cheaters, and From doesn't give a fuck.
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>>180634281
Maybe they're just looking for pretense to suck someone's dick
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Does anyone know what build that onion-headed, cathedral knight armor wearing cleric dude uses? I've seen a bunch of his webms' and I'm really tempted to try out a faith-caster build.
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>>180634589
he posted it once but I don't have it, I guess it's a standard 60 fth build
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>>180633202
He is right?
Are you a stinky Arab or why the the butthurt
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How much stamina should I have for using the smelter hammer?
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>>180634290
If you're doing it for the bossfights, might as well just get TRC. I like Ashes of Ariandel because it's so insanely comfy, but at the same time the bossfights alone are not worth the price of admission. The weapons and the armors found in it are nice tho' and anything to remove the stifling linearity from DS3 is welcome.
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>>180635575
Tree.
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Does Darkmoon Blade as a faith buff serve any purpose when Lightning and Dark are already covered? What does it hit that the other 2 don't?
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>>180635968
No buffable weapon with innate magic damage.
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>>180635968
Additionally, how long until a silver k***t drops a concord ear?
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>>180636114
Drakeblood GS
:^)
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>>180635968
yeah, magic
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DaS2 really is the best.
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whats the meta for 3? 125 or 150?

also is this a decent image? http://i.imgur.com/SH51f88.jpg
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>>180637743
Meta is 120, mostly
Also, here's the up to date version of the chart
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>>180637868
danke

im 40/40 quality, not 60 or 66...this is fine right? im putting the rest to pump END to 40 and then might put the rest in vit or vigor
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>>180637935
Quality is good, not as good as 66 STR or 80 dex but you have access to more weapons I guess, also twinkling/boss weapons are usually better on quality
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>>180638023
Yeah I always do quality on my first playthrough. Not sure if I'm going to have more playthroughs though, too much vidya to play.

It's a tremendous game as usual though.

One of my side weapons is Onikiri & Ubadachi. Would it be worth it to make them Sharp or the gem that has STR/DEX scaling (forgot the name)?
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>>180637743
meta is
>25
>60
>80
>120-125-140
>387
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>>180638176
Refined gem.
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>>180638176
On quality, 2kat are one of the few weapons that are better left uninfused
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>>180623493
"Le Boise doesn't work guies!! Amrite XD don't fOrgEt to Subsrivbe!! For more eBIn MEmes"
Pretty much sums up why people don't think it works.
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>>180638675
Alright thanks.

What about a long sword, GTS, or the twin blades?
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>>180638212
This, although if you'll go 387 might as well go 802. It's for
>twinking
>anal rodeo mayhem
>duels with invasions available
>duels only
>AL mayhem 2: electric boogaloo
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>>180638740
On quality, the first 2 are better refined while twinblades are better sharp
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>>180624070
>>180624143
>>180623493
>>180638701

Poise or even functional hyperarmor didn't work for half a year until AoA patch finally adjusted it so that hyperarmor actually functioned the way it was supposed to.
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W-What
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>>180638865
It still worked then but it was much weaker and even more inconsistent than now. Also, poise wouldn't regen on attack, which meant you could only tank a couple of hits at best
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How do I use Bident on a 60 fth? Lightning? Blessed?
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>>180639009
You did a visceral attack, he's critically wounded and is waiting for you to fucking pull the trigger BITCH! FUCKING DO IT. PUT HIM OUT OF HIS FUCKING MISERY!!!
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>>180639009
hes accepted his fate, now kill him
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can I still invade or be invaded by the meta at sl 136?
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>>180639303
Iirc Bident is worse blessed than normal. And you probably want to buff it instead
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>>180639009
This is how dogs show submission. It's basically the canine version of waving a white flag.
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was the AoD ending in DS3 an artistic representation or literal? i thought it was just the age where the gods lost their powers or died or whatever. also the last boss was kind of a letdown. the gameplay was fine but in dark souls and bloodborne the last boss was the one you already knew as the big kahuna. the soul of cinder was just some concept. otherwise cool game 9/10
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>>180639779
>frog posters
Anyways glad you enjoyed, if you haven't played the DLC, it's fun. If not, oh well move onto the next game of purchase.
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>>180639779
Souls have the habit of anticlimactic final bosses
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Just got summoned as blue to a sesh where 4 dudes in the painting guardian gear were being invaded by phantoms non stop. Was devastated when the connection fucked off, but at least I got 3 concords out of it.
>>180639779
Well I mean, the only big kahuna in DS3 really are Pontiff and the lords of cinder. As far as SoC goes, it's supposed to be the big final sendoff for everything, being an amalg of everyone that had ever nuked themselves to keep the fire going. I think it's a perfect finale.

>>180640241
>Gwyn
>Cinder
>DLC bosses
>anticlimactic
Nigga u wot?
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>>180639779
I really liked Soul of Cinder as a way of canonizing all the players who beat Dark Souls 1 or 2 and linked the fire.

Similarly I liked (TRC spoiler) Gael for essentially being a dark and twisted version of the player who goes around killing and stealing the essence of others for their own power .
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>>180640858
Saved' really good image if that's yours. Also yeah, but the only damn drawback for Soul of C is that we never will get his awesome boss sword that transforms. I wouldn't care if it was a quality weapon or had 489 AR. Anything would have been better then what got in the final version.
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>>180641054
It's not mine, I just saved it from this thread lol.
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>>180641054
Hell take the sword's WA and swap it with the Ringed Knight Straight sword and it would have been perfect, in my opinion. Maybe have it so that using a strong attack does the explosion instead of a lunge.
I've rolled up a "bonfire knight" character that's using parts of his armor. Comfiest invasions yet.
FUCK is floating chaos hard to use, though
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So I just finished SOTFS powrstancing Katanas.
What min dex/str/int should I go for a Sorcerer build for some NG+ bosses?

I was looking at maybe using the Blue Flame? I have all these staves but no idea which are any good...
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>>180641054
I'd have been happy even if it had a unique moveset, or even more thrusts. It's stupid that none of its attacks are thrusts when it's a god damn pointed coil
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>>180624967
Well, he did pretty well against Eleum Loyce
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>>180624967
>>180642107

Tsorig didn't adjust well into poise not existing and Heavy Armor being functionally useless in Dark Souls 3.
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>>180605830

Except it doesn't sound like Souls will get another game and Bloodborne is a bit ol' question mark. Realistically we'll probably see another Bloodborne game, and if you dump enough money at From's feet they'll churn out another Souls game, but I don't think they really care to.

They'd rather do Armored Core, of all things.
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>>180629624
Because TRC takes place in the future. Dumb animeposter.
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>>180610541

You run up to it and hit R1 a bunch on its leg. Roll between its legs when it's going to attack to avoid damage, then just continue attacking.

I can't fathom how people have trouble with this game.
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fresh meme
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>>180619985

But he's fun and not that hard anon.
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>>180643002
ayyyy lmao.
Gwyndolin for life
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>>180642773
Theres that AC general guy(no offense just saying, you guys pop everywhere now)
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updated the spell buff table but I don't have the patience or time to test the dmg.
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>>180640404
Gwyn is the epitome of anticlimactic, what are you smoking? I'm not saying it's bad, it's amazing. We hear throughout the game about the power of the Great Lord Gwyn, how he defeated the Dragons and banished the Dark, how he tore the Demons a new one and how we're to succeed him. And when we get to him, he's a husk, little more than a powered up shit-ass dead dude.
>come back to the thread 30 minutes later
>reply not posted
Wew
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>>180643506
Gwyn was too weak.
He didn't even throw lightening
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>>180629881
Are you retarded(yes)?
The intro does not show the world as it is in the start of the gameplay but rather in the 'future'.

There are multiple time states going on in the world :
Chronologically Untended Graves is the earliest, it's in the period of Dark prior to the Lords waking up. Gundyr woke early, player defeated him and then he was made the noob check that he is in the tutorial. At this point Queen Lothric was still around or she peaced out recently as evidenced by the stuff he left behind at Untended Graves.

Next in the timeline is the Lords waking up and then all of them except Ludleth went like "fuck this shit" and went home.

Shenanigans start to happen in places and Aldrich starts eating Gods. Presumably Lothric Civil War happens due to Lothric yiffing his brother instead of linking.

Then the players wake up to hunt down the rogue Lords.

The Eclipse happens and after the player delivers Lothric to the throne we go into the same timeline as where Dreg Heap is, to the furthest the timeline is in as everything has compressed together in a shitball and no structures are even standing.

Most of The Ringed City happens in a time between the Eclipse and the Kiln/Dreg heap, past Filianore takes place simultaneously during the intro cinematic but before Dreg Heap / Kiln since the structures are still seen standing in the background destroyed but not piled together like Dreg heap.
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>>180643195
As usual, mentally ill basement dwellers only serve the greater good in death.
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>>180593893
What feet are there even in DaS3?
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>>180643928
best waifu
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>>180644193
Every character there has 2 of them so the ingame model can imitate human walk??
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>>180644193
Friede.
Painter if you're a pedo.
Yorshka.
Filly
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>>180644193
Fire Keeper, technically.
Foot fetishism is degenerate, but I like characters that are barefoot
But heels are vastly superior in every way.
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Does Yuria have any new dialogues in The Ringed City?
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>>180644193
Lady Friede, Firekeeper, painter girl. Mommy Rosaria. Company captain Yorshka, stone humped hag
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>>180644658
A comment on the sweet odor emanating from the blood of the Darksoul you're carrying after fighting Gael. And how it's a smell most hollows remember and that a it's a thing most precious to them.
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>>180644685
>hag
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>>180628994

If you kill Anri you get her sword. Otherwise you can get it by helping her kill Aldritch.
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>>180645351
You can't help Anri with Aldrich if you want to follow Yuria's questline in the first place. I think in that case you get it by lovingly stabbing her face. If not immediately, upon reloading the area it should be there
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>summoned as darkmoon
>spawn on that strip where Midir flies over and incinerates you
>die instantly
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>>180644234
hmmmmmm
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>>180641282
min for powerstancing blue flames, buff both with CMW, also buff with CMW to increase the spell damage they do.
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>>180647196
what do we do on the bed
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>>180646817
Frankly Midir, I don't give a damn.
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>>180647885
oh wrong pic
>>180647196
here
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>>180647934
>M'dir
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>>180626317
what are you on about, she looks cute in game- at least by souls standards
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>>180647934
Okay, this was actually mildly funny
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>>180647934
You can't be Shira-ous
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I'm going for a "Follower of Kalameet" type of character build for DS1 to fuck with people in Oolacile.

Anything to improve or you think I should change?

http://mmdks.com/8oc4
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>>180649432
black flame instead of great combustion maybe?
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>>180649432
>resistance
Keep it at lower level if you don't know what to do with the extra points, Jesus. And use black flame instead of combustion.
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>>180649432
>38 resistance
what

do you enjoy being 30 levels below everyone else?

I'd put some stats into faith for darkmoon or sunlight blade since Obsidian Greatsword can be buffed.
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Sage Ring or Young Dragon Ring? Is the speed boost noticeable when it's not a + version?
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>>180649432
>no Calamity Ring
One fucking job.

>>180650079
Yes.
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Hey guys what's the dark souls of mobile games?
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>>180650449
slashy souls obviously
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>>180650449
Snake
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>>180649432
-Black flame over GCombustion

-Put those wasted points in res into dex for casting speed (45 is the cap)

-Ring of steel protection is useless, you could go for favor or dark wood grain. Also get Calamity ring instead of wolf ring you dip
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>>180650079
Does a 10-20% cast speed time increase mean you will hit more than 12.5% more often? If so then cast speed is better than damage. If cast speed doesn't mean 12.5% more accuracy, then young dragon is better.

10 dex sage ring is a ~10% speed increase
20 dex sage ring (or 10 dex +2 ring) is a 20% speed increase, capped.

So if you're equipping 15-20 dex, the + versions make no improvement because you're already at the cap.
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>>180650547
It's atrocious.
What the hell guys?
It's terrible and garbage.
I'll make a better one
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>>180650964
please do, I've been looking for a good mobile game
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Would From ever release a lore compendium? This is something that I'm very much interested in getting
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>>180651214
no
because then miyazaki would actually have to explain himself to a book editor
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>>180651214
Likely not, you're basically asking for Miyazaki to write a book when he barely has time to finish a game.
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>>180651214
No. Why bother anyways
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Trying to get medals as an invader is suffering, killed 2 blueberries while a massive cunt of a host was hiding like a little bitch in the archives, all ended in a conniption error as I was about to kill a third copper, no medals for my troubles.

Covenants are shit.
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>>180651214
One of the selling points and major discussion subject is the lore and its mystery. From would have to go out of their way to shoot themselves on the foot
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>>180651214
Nope. In all their 20+ years of history I've never heard of From releasing a lore book. TONS of art books, tons of design compilations, strategy and game guides, but never something specifically about the story. I think it's just antithetical to the style of lore that permeates all their games.
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>>180651775
Heh, my world my rules... kid...
Also, kinda sucks we can't get forked tongues as non-reds. I love the idea of being an absolute madman, but most of all I enjoy killing blues. At any rate, you can always coop
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>>180651214
Ask Vaati to write a lore book.
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>>180652092
Yeah, I guess I'll have to, but that doesn't negate the fact that covenants are shit for the most part. Either it's too easy or impossible and the host can always say 'get fucked' to no detriment of his own.
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Will going +10 cause summons to die down allot. Right now I am 80 +8/4 amd still get steady summons for dragon slayer armor, gundyr, and twin princes(I'm on PC). I'm having trouble with the demon prince and thinking of just going +10 since I am already beyond good invasion/pvp sl but don't want to fuck up summons. I've got him down to 10% once but usually just die when he is at 50%.
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>>180652128
1 million patron donations, screencap this lol.
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I got summoned with a white soapstone in a world, a dude went inside the fog gate and started fighting the boss and some cunt with an untrue ring started attacking me what the hell was that shit?
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Thanks for the suggestions for the Kalameet build, I've modified it.

http://mmdks.com/8oc8
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What are the most chaotic places to invade as a purple spirit? I want to see reds and blues already fighting among the host and his pals when I come over.
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>>180643837
This is fucking retarded.
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>>180653105
Anor Londo and to some degree Farron Keep, a.k.a. covenant controlled territories. Especially if the host is ballsy and has used dried fingers. However, chances are that in the former you'll just get summoned to fight clubs because hosts are morons and in the latter you'll get twink gankers and CE bullshittery.
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>>180643837
>>180653332
>>180629881
From doesn't make the intros, they outsource them to third party companies to work on before the game is started, using only the concept art. That's the main reason why DS2's intro sucks, they hadn't figured out the lore yet before they commissioned it.
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>>180653332
Nice arguments bruh.

>>180653746
>that's the main reason DS2's intro sucks
The intro is cool as fuck. It's the game that doesn't live up to the expectations set by the intro.
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>finally get summoned as a blue
>host won't let me and red 1v1
>red keeps running away every time host jumps in
>red black crystals out
>no ears for me today
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>>180654159
But DS2's intro explains nothing about the lore or where the player is supposed to go, it's just aesthetics with no relation to the actual game.
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>halfway through making my luck sorcerer
>can't be arsed playing through PvE
I don't even know why it feels so boring
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>>180654639
what's luck like?
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Hawkwood's shield is my parry-fu, I don't understand why but I always get the best results with it
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>>180655157
I don't know, I haven\t made it to rosarias and gotten 30 tongues yet
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>>180655157
>>180654639
>luck sorceror

is this at all viable?

Pestilent mercury isn't increased by luck you know
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>>180654262

>get blue summoned
>don't know where the host is or where the invader is despite finding some forensic evidence of dead enemies that point me further into the area
>fucking host died, returning to your world
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>>180655364
>Pestilent mercury isn't increased by luck you know
really?
How pathetic.
Luck should be that status stat that allows you to purely fight with status.
Too bad it's so cucked.
can't been buff poison spells
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>>180655504
PM isn't a staus effect though. It is just AoE damage.
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If someone has a +10 upgrade and uses the white soap stone what's the lowest upgrade level they can be summoned by.
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>>180655504
the worst thing is that it doesn't affect freeze effects, this spell is literally perfect for it
>same int requirement as the luck staff
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>>180655504
luck is the pve stat
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>>180643837
The Champ awoke late, not early. Presumably he was the ashen dude of the previous cycle, but by that time Ludleth had already linked the fire in the stead of a proper Lord of Cinder, so he just sat and waited.
>>180654159
Like the rest of ds2, it's good as a standalone but doesn't work well with the broader context
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>>180655869
+8? +9? something like that
I think you can go up or down 2 (+0 can go up to +2, +4 can go from 2 to 6)
correct me if I'm wrong
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>>180656246
How do you figure Gundyr is Ludleth's ashen one and why do you think the latter is not a 'proper' Lord of Cinders?
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>>180656292
That's right but at lower levels it's +-1. I think for the first four levels or so.
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>>180656292
You think I'll still get lots of summons on pc for twin princes, gundy, and dragon slayer armor if I go +10. I'm sl 80 btw.
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>>180655869
>>180656292
OP has summon range calculators, buds.
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>>180656542
Ludleth comments about the eyes, revealing he was in the dark firelink at some point before we reach it. The Champ is called "belated" and it seems to me he played the role of ash. However, we know Ludleth willingly sacrificed himself, so no ash would be needed to carry his cinders or whatever. It's a pretty logical conclusion to assume Gundyr was not awoken to carry Ludleth but someone else. Also, the whole deal about Ludleth being a wee flame doesn't paint him in the light other LoCs are in.
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So how are miracle builds in this game? I stopped playing DS2 because slowly every facet of my builds were nerfed
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>>180657060
It's only logical if you assume that every lord of cinder needs an unkindled ash to force him. Gwyn and DaS1 player didn't have unkindled ashes. In fact, I'm not sure that the whole cinders of a lord thing is explained at all.
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what are some fun ds2 builds? i want to do a powerstance build and then a build that makes me more powerful than God
already done
>hex/dex
>pure strength
any fun ideas? this game is so much bigger than the first one I can't even fathom it. pve only, I don't care about pvp in dark souls anymore it makes me minmax and ruins the game
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>>180657305
Only the awoken LoCs. Every other LoC has an ashen one connected to them awoken. Siegward's duty was to kill Yhorm, Anri's to kill Aldritch and Hawkwood's to kill the Abyss Watchers.
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>>180657142
Miracle builds are fucking great in DS2 though, even after the nerfs. It's the best damage type and the best buffs in the game by far.

They're alright in DS3 because of the passive healing abilities you get, but you don't do any damage with miracles unless you equip two rings and max out faith, so the first half of the game it's just a normal melee build with lots of healing.
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>>180657608

Did they get rid of the lightning bolt series of spells? And wrath of the gods too?
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>>180657575
>tfw no champ gundy covenant or npc to chat it up.
>no witty comment of STR from him
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what's the best upgrad for the drang hammers?
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>>180657575
this is an interesting theory, could you elaborate?
is the main character supposed to be the Ashen One for the Twin Princes?
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>>180657671
No but they're garbage and you will never hit anyone with them.
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Hi /dsg/. I just finished my first playthrough of Dark Souls 1 and missed quite a lot (have not defeat Kalameet). Should I try NG+, a new character or continue with other souls game?
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>>180657680
refined and quality build, IIRC
though, really just pick whatever infusion is best for your stats in mugen
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>>180657740

So they're the same as always then, good to know
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>>180657712
Fuck off Vaati, find your own shit
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>>180657575
>>180657712
Thing is you have the wrong idea about the entire linking of the flame deal imho. The lore implies that Gundyr awoke so late the age of fire had already begun, so this means he couldn't have been Ludleth's ashen one as Ludleth linked the flame. What's more, Lothric hasn't linked the flame but is a lord of cinder and you still have to place his ashes, which combined with 3 of the 4 cutscenes you get at the end probably means the fire is so weak at this point it can't even fully consume the cunts who link it and the lord's cinders just serve as undead bone shards that help intensify the flame.
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>>180657421
>i want to do a powerstance build
R arm light weapon, L arm heavy weapon. R1 to stun, L1-L1 to kill, L2 to kill faster.
Pump your stamina really high so that you can combo into multiple moves.
Good combos are:
Straight Sword - Greatsword (R1-L1-L1 is an automatic combo on most enemies)
Katana/SS - Warped Sword
Estoc - Spear (so you maintain a sweeping R2 attack)
Partizan - Lance (so you maintain a sweeping R2 attack)
Greatsword - UGS
Twin maces

You can also get more creative than that, but those are all solid choices.

>a build that makes me more powerful than God
Leo Ring Dark Grand Lance (or sunlight blade heide lance) with rebel's greatshield. Eventually aim for 30/40 so you can cast lifedrain patch, resonant weapon, and profound still. Dark Grand Lance w/ Resonant weapon leo ring will hit for ~1300+ damage with each 2H R2.
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>>180657671
>>180657873
the lightning spears are still there, but they don't do much damage at all and consume a lot of FP.

Basically DS3 lightning spears do the same damage and casts as DS2 lightning spears, but at least now you can boost them by 40% more damage with rings and give up an estus usage to get more casts.

However there are some mid-late game miracles and DLC miracles that are top-notch like lightning stake, lightning arrow, and projected heal.
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>>180658240
Meant to say age of dark, not age of fire
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>>180654159
>But DS2's intro explains nothing about the lore or where the player is supposed to go, it's just aesthetics with no relation to the actual game.
So is most of DS1's intro
It doesn't tell you about the undead curse
It doesn't tell you about the bells of awakening
It doesn't tell you about anol rodeo
It does tell you about the 4 lords but nothing else

DS2's intro does just about the same if not arguably more
>tells you about what effect the curse has as alzhimers
>tells you that you are going to a place and who made that place

Does DS1 have a more cohesive narrative?
Yes
Is it the fault of the INTRO?
Not really.
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>tfw no powerstance in DS3
>tfw GS of Judgement and Propaned GS can't made into Pontiff's Twin GS similar to homoprince weapons
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>>180658746
DS1's intro actually tells you the major bosses of the game and why they are bosses, why your character is in the undead asylum, and a preview of the areas you will visit. It doesn't explain everything but it does give you the basic tools to understand where to go.

DS2's intro just gives you a vague explanation about how much it sucks to go hollow and lose your memory.
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How come hosts get to have TWO blues?
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>>180659729
And that the bearer of the curse is a white male, giving away the customization options for a authentic role play. Memory or not, the player is still drafted into believing it's a dude
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>>180659729
>why your character is in the undead asylum, and a preview of the areas you will visit
See anon now your mistaking the cinematic for the ingame cutscenes, an easy mistake to make sure, but kind of stupid considering the whole point of the "argument"
Again the DS1 intro doesn't
>Tell you what you are supposed to do in the game, at all
>doesn't even tell you what the darksign is
>no mention of any of the places you visit in the game

the things it does is
>set up the universe, something that neither of sequels had any reason to retread
>namedrop the 4 dudes

Also
>you the major bosses of the game and why they are bosses
It doesn't
>Gwyn lord of sunlight started a whole ago, why wouldn't you want to be on his side
Everything else about the prophecy and shit is revealed ingame, not something the intro tells you
>Nito
Again no actual reason given for fighting him, in fact there really isnt one even in the game outside of "his a boss go hit him"
>witch of izalith
No mention of the corrupted flame she made or any of the things that lead to the bed of chaos, again nothing to indicate WHY she would be a boss
>Seath
Again everything about seaths madness is revealed ingame, your reasons for fighting him the same as all the other major bosses, is ingame not in the intro
>4kings not even mentioned

By comparison DS2's intro establishes
>You had a family once
>Undead curse works by making people forget everything except wanting souls
>you were so desperate on your search for a cure that you listened to a blind old maybewitch and jumped into a magical whirlpool because you were promised that there might be a cure there somewhere

DS2 does more to set up your characters motivation, it's just that that motivation gets derailed the instant you arrive in Drangleic and everyone there goes "Yeah no shits just as fucked here yo"
You are allowed to like what you like, but these are objective facts the the trailers give you.
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>>180660278
I'm guessing Tainmura trying to repeat the AC2 intro, where you start the game -immediately- , getting thrown right into the "action" without creating a save, seeing controls, or naming your character, making it feel like you have to "earn" the right to even start the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBsWk-UmSzc

Which works great in a game where you don't have customization of your character's biological appearance, but bad in a game where you do. I agree, character customization should have taken place before the start of the game like it did in DS1/3
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>>180660190
Two is the patched amount, before it was a bug that allowed 4 in the same world, if they could even be summoned that is.
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i'm gonna get a beer from the fridge and take on dark eater midir now, bros. last boss i have alive on my first playthrough. wish me luck.
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>>180658415
how do I kill skeletons and other normal cannonfodder using miracles?
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>>180660798
DaS3 is literally the same as DaS1 when it comes to lord soul areas
a.k.a small and shit
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>>180660553
>ingame cutscenes
I'm talking about everything shown to you from "new game" to when you can start controlling your character, or until after character customization in DS2.

>It doesn't
Lightning dude killed dragons. Gross dragon killed dragons. Witches had fire and killed dragons. Skelly dude killed dragons. Guess what? Those are your bosses, they are badass because they killed dragons.

You're mistaking exposition for direction. DS1's intro gives direction without exposition. DS2's intro gives exposition but without direction, and that makes it worse because exposition is pointless if you haven't yet figured out the reason why the exposition is even significant.
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>>180619652
Yeah that 3 moves total moveset and retarded tracking on his charge are top contenders for the best fight in the game.
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>>180660850
You don't. You use your melee weapon, possibly with blessed or lightning infusion, and then you save your lightning spears for nukes against hard enemies that you can't engage up close, just like in DS2.

You CAN choose to go full ashen estus and chuck 3-4 spears just to kill a basic enemy, but you will run out fast and not have any normal estus flask drinks to use.

Miracles aren't main offensive spells anymore, that's only the case in DS1.
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Why do people use rapiers and other swords like that?
Thrusting swords are basically metal spikes.
It doesn't even feel cool when you use them.
I discarded them immediately after trying them once
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>>180660954
>Lightning dude killed dragons. Gross dragon killed dragons. Witches had fire and killed dragons. Skelly dude killed dragons. Guess what? Those are your bosses, they are badass because they killed dragons.
None of this translates into WHY they are bosses as opposed to say the dudes giving you a quest to save the world or whatever.

>You're mistaking exposition for direction. DS1's intro gives direction without exposition.
No you literally straight up got it reversed anon.
DS1 gives you exposition, it tells you about the world and dudes in it. It doesn't tell you anything about what you are supposed to do in it. Oscar starts that train when he gives you the estus flask and key.
DS2 gives your CHARACTER direction, go to drangleic, get a cure for the undead curse because you are undead and it's a bad time.
What drangleic IS isn't explored or elaborated on.
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>>180661135
Because people have different ideas of what is "cool".

They have the speed of daggers with the range of straight swords, and in all games deal consistently high damage with huge potential for counter bonuses.
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Dexfags are useless little pussies
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What fucking planet were these retarded gooks on when they decided this was a good idea?
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>>180660632
that combat looks fun
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>>180661135
Speed
Some people like the feeling of running circles around someone because going "ILL FLATTEN YOU JUST DON'T HIT ME IN MY 1000000 WARMUP FRAMES" feels stupid to them
Conversely some people like big hit weapons because going "LET ME JUST STAB YOU 10000000 TIMES MAYBE THEN IT WILL START HURTING YOU" feels stupid to them
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>>180661217
DS1:
>Here is Joe Blow. He's fucked 100 bitches and is a big badass. When you beat him, you will also feel like a badass.

DS2:
>You will lose your memory good luck

Half the reason the bosses in DS2 feel so bad is because there's literally no build up to them whatsoever, and you have no idea why you should care about them. That's what I'm criticizing. You can remove the opening cutscene to DS2 entirely and the player would have the same basic experience in the game. It's unnecessary filler that should have been a mid-game exposition on the curse AFTER you've already had a chance to experience it. Honestly it would have been better served if this was a cutscene that played after talking to lucatile or the crestfallen warrior.

>It doesn't tell you anything about what you are supposed to do in it. Oscar starts that train when he gives you the estus flask and key.
That's part of the opening cutscene.
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>>180661373
are you being sarcastic? The player is playing like dogshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWQ5Ygoa8ZM

this is a better example of what combat actually looks like
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How's the Crucifix nowadays? Still murders shit or it was nerfed?
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>>180660804
help he kill me
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>>180592931
>you will be level 150+
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>>180661464
Anon stop regurgitating shitty /v/ memes and actually watch the trailrs, the whole "you will lose your souls over and over again" is a minor aspect that comes after and before all sorts of other info

Again
DS1 gives you exposition
>This is the world and its lore, these are some dudes in it
DS2 gives you character motivation and a goal
>You are undead, being undead makes you lose your memory, go find a cure for being undead.

You could remove the cinematic intro of DS1 and still have basically the same experience
>Oscar gives you the intial motivation for going to Lordran and the bells of awakening
>Gwyn and his buddies get referenced enough ingame and by other characters so just having them being namedropped in the intro does nothing

also when did you last play DS1?
Oscar tells you about the undead prophecy after you have gotten your main weapon, shield, lit your first bonfire and explored a bit, counting all that as the "opening cutscene" is breddi fucking stupid.
No he doesn't tell you about the undead curse as he is tossing a corpse into your cell, in fact he says nothing ,its literally "here is a key open the cell and move on this is a videogame stupid"
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>>180661304
t.shitter who panic rolls
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>>180593141
ENTJ

I always play quality or dex builds.
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>>180662009
>panic rolls
oh fuck off, it's 50% instant attacks 50% delayed akward timing swings that still swing instantly
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Reminder that rolling<blocking<parrying
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>>180661464
Anon your mixing up player motivation and character motivation.
DS1 the player has a shitload of motivation to do things, "Oh cool all these cool ass guys to kill and dragons to slay and golly gee I'm going on an adventure and I'm undead so there isn't even any consequence for dying this is great"
DS2 the character gets motivation but it runs against player motivation "Why would I want to cure being undead, where am I going, why don't I know anything about anything, why are all these faggots telling me I'm going to die over and over again"
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>>180662130
https://youtu.be/1WagY0KJ7dc
Mute it
Your panic rolling and not studying his move set get fucking good sale kiddie
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>>180662424
>DS2 the character gets motivation but it runs against player motivation "Why would I want to cure being undead, where am I going, why don't I know anything about anything, why are all these faggots telling me I'm going to die over and over again"
they keep telling you that you're going hollow if you lose your motivation
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>Retrieving information...
>There is no new information

That is ominous as fuck
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>>180662425
Nah m8, no one enjoys the strategy of 'run away and wait for the easy punishable attack'
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>>180662515
Anon you won't go hollow, it's just a videogame.
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>>180593737
Doesn't he have to get his kid back from his crazy Jap wife?
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could someone drop me a fume ultra greatsword on PC SOTFS? The engraved ring works for that right?
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>>180662692
https://youtu.be/H7Cht-0u2MQ
I got more. He hugs his nuts in this one if that's what you're into
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>>180662854
Engraved ring increases SM tiers but wont let a 45mil SM character connect to a 10k SM character, no downscaling in that game.
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>invaded by a hacker that revives with full health every time he's killed
Fun game.
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>>180662716
really?
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>>180662425
I'm just being impatient and going for too many attacks between his swings. That and I hadn't got the timing down for a few of his lightning attacks.
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>>180662425
>hurr just fight and study a boss 50+ times like this guy it's so easy dude get good
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>tfw finally stopped being stubborn about boss weapons and switched from quality to sharp build


Holy fuck the damage is so much better.
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Is refined still considered top tier? Playing a quality build here.

>>180663383
Speaking of which
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>>180663379
(You)
it's okay I'm sure you'll beat him some day.
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>>180663383
>straight sword damage except costs you 80 dex
?????
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Is this whirlpool just a teleporter from one part of the planet to another, or is the "sea" Vendrick crossed to steal the giant's precious thing a portal between worlds?
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>>180663812
no idea, but those fireflies are always present when dream/memory fuckery is about
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>>180663508
Quality build is good for boss weapons. Refined may or may not be your best choice at 40/40 for a bunch of infusible weapons. For the same point investment you'll tend to get better results dumping points in one stat and using heavy/sharp respectively.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/151rdCnXVxKPaMcF8XUq9le2fFBS2uOFsv0kCouNpFpc/edit#gid=357720482
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>>180664050
I thought they were Brightbugs
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am i sugoi?
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>>180663508
It really isn't for most weapons. The only real point to going Refined is to use Boss Soul weapons that can't be infused. Gael's, Frayed Blade, and a few others justify keeping a refined build if you have one, but the returns on a Sharp or Heavy build are just so much better.

I'm presently at 20 Strength(for Kumo) and 75 Dex. Even with equivalent investment for Quality(my build is 70 points of investment in Str/Dex vs 55 for 40/40 on a Warrior), weapons will not hit as hard.
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>>180663812
It's
A) The memory of Drangleic because of the brightbug theme
B) A time travel portal because of the concept art and DS1 did it
C)None of the above
Take your pick because the games never tell you
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Why do spear stabs have a 5x wider hitbox than sword stabs?
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>>180661304
Stupid Sale shitter
He is one of the hardest but fairest bosses in the series not like Midir where every time you fight him again is just annoying
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>>180664148
>I cast fist
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>>180664306
because they're already outranged by many other weapons so they need a little something extra to make them somewhat useful
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>>180664145
i guess, i just said fireflies because i forgot how they were called in-game
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>>180593141
>INTJ
My first character in every game has always been a dex/faith build
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>>180663606
for the same point investment 16/80 or 27/40 sharp deals more damage than refined for most weapons.
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>>180593141
INTJ
First run in 2 was Dex, 3 was Pyro
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>>180664075
Damn, this is awesome. Thanks.

I suppose it all comes down to what I want to use most. Which is a pain because I can't choose a favourite weapon and I'm really bored of the straight sword I started with.

>>180664264
When you say "going refined" you mean using a quality build, right? I'm a tad confused. Also I don't really see how quality builds are better for boss weapons that can't be infused. Is it because most scale with str/dex?
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>>180592931
Here's a better one: play literally any other game in the series and have a better time.
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>>180661292
Recommend me a fun 40 STR weapon/build.
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>>180664341
>every time you fight him again is just annoying

t. shitter
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Heh... maybe next time kiddo
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>>180664148
That fucking jaw
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>>180665583
>no grass on the hot bar
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>>180664727
Nice part of me has been the ability to keep my one handed AR on heavier weapons as well. I use the Claymore 1H moveset a fair bit and my AR with it is 546 on Sharp. It's so much more investment to get that on Refined, not even really possible.
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>>180665303
Midir is like the nameless king fight for me. I never get tired of the setting and theme with it. Each playthrough I've had so far making characters such as my pyro or dex/Int or even pure STR. That boss never fails to put a damn smile on my face, epitome of a fun challenge.
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>>180599805
wat

I played through as a sorcerer on my first playthrough and Crystal Sage was ez pz. Everything was fucking easy, heavy great soul arrow is ridiculous in PvE.
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>>180665734
if anything, grass is put on the other quickbar
this one is for online shit and homo bone
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>>180665706
i am not good at character creation
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Is it me or are swords just the best class of weapon? I know others have more damage or range but they all attack slower or use far more stamina. Seems like swords can just get in and get out while doing far more damage because it attacks more quickly and more often than other types.
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>>180666074
Looks like a tranny Peter Steele so if you were aiming for that it's a 10/10
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>>180593141
>esfp
>sucky sucky 5 dorra

DaS
>dex (uchigatana)
DaS2:SotFS
>dex (puzzling trick sword + warp sword)
DaS3
>1st character str dark sword/butcher's knife
>2nd character dex/luck warden twinblade
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>>180666058
I like to keep my quick bar minimal with a firebomb and charm, grass is a safe enough item to use off hot bar
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>>180665168
Yeah, quality build, refined build, same thing.

The good ones that do physical all seem to basically play best with a 40/40 type thing from what I've seen. Might be one or two exceptions to that, but you are pretty safe with that sort of build if using boss soul weapons is a primary objective.

Otherwise, Sharp or Heavy all the way.
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>>180666160
its from a japanese action film you uncultured swine
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>>180666104
Straight Swords are the absolute best weapon in Dark Souls 3 and nothing else really comes close. The disparity in other games isn't as wide, but they've been consistently very good since Demon's Souls.
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>>180665801
Refined is for:
>Using Greatshields with sharp infused weapons
>Using Boss or Unique weapons that can't be infused

You go quality so you can use Executioner's, Profaned, Gael's, Farron, Wolf Knight, Valorheart, the Ringed Knight, Ithryll, and Black Knight weapons,
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>>180593141

INTJ
Pure sorcerer and sometimes Quality with minor FAI investment
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>>180602542
You are a disgrace. Turn in your aldrich badge and red eye orb and fuck off
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>>180665303
Its not hard it's just not fun
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>>180666425
Straightsword are best in DeS and DS3, they're probably the worst in DS2 given how great ultras and greatswords are.
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>>180666690

DaS2 is all about maces and rapiers.
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>>180608221
Is this modded? The skin texture looks different
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>>180666690
They didn't feel as dominant to me in any other game as they do in Dark Souls 3, that's for sure. Not sure there has really been one weapon class that is quite this good as there has been in any of the other games. There were counters(albeit a lot of them involving glitches) to the stuff that might have been a contender for equaling them.
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>>180613837
Are you trying to be a walking meme?
>>180614273
You have to make an extra trip to the place he died before progressing the questline
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>>180667098
Straight swords were dominant in DeS because along with the lack of enemy poise, they had a thrust attack (and thrust attacks were massively stronger in DeS), which you didn't get with most other weapons. A longsword R2 does about the same amount of damage as a claymore R2 in DeS.
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>>180665267
40 or 45 vig
40 end
40 str
As much vit as possible until desired meta level
Use favor, chloranthy, steel protection, and life rings.

Done. Use whatever ultra weapon you want and youll facestomp everyone with poise. Its actually very entertaining, especially with the sale kiddos around who still think poise is worthless.
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okay am i crazy or is everything shit for scaling in DaS3, im doing a newbie friendly strength run for my 1st playthrough but even the claymore's scaling is D
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>>180667229
Somehow my browser skipped up and I didn't notice I was reading 16 hour old posts
huh
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>>180664075
>60 Dex
Stop sharing your shitter spreadsheet.
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>>180667319
Does your mom still change your diapers
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>>180667319
In DS3, Everything is supposed to be infused sharp, refined, heavy, or raw. Physical infusions allow most weapons to reach A or B scaling in at least one stat.
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>>180667319

DaS3 follows the DeS model of weapon upgrades instead of DaS/DaS2 where weapons are naturally str/dex/quality. You have to infuse your weapons for better scaling.
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>>180627236
did they really have to put that in the item description
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>>180667396
Doesn't that make sense for a dex build?
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>get summoned as a blueberryin painted world
>host is memeing with dark hand, blue skin and green hair
>drops in the church with the two corvians even though he has spells instead of taking them out or opting out of the damn thing altogether
>that's where the red was hiding
>I drop down after him
>get stuck because he escaped through the door and the corvian knight on his tail was blocking the path
>ded
>nigga uses a seed as I die
I'm not mad, just disappointed that people like this cunt get to vote at the end of the day.
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>>180667396
>when a sale sub human acts like he knows something about scaling
why are poor shitters always so loud mouthed
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>>180667319
You wont be able to make weapons scale almost exclusively with STR until you find the farron coal, unfortunately. But upgrades matter much more than scaling.
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>>180667316
Poise weapons are just generally much better at fighting multiple opponents, especially weapons like Profaned UGS, Astora GS, and Greathammers, because of their mostly horizontal R1s. Though things like Cathedral/Fume GS R1->R1 can often trick people who are trying to backstab you only to find a sword in their face.

You can succeed with non-HA weapons in invading, but it's more difficult.
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>>180667319
>>180666258
>>180665801
>>180665168
>>180664727
>>180667396
>>180664075
This spreadsheet is fucking awful. Just use mugen, or calculate it in your own head. It's really not that complicated
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>>180667678
>I'm not mad

You mad as hell
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>>180667739
Whats wrong with it
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>>180667739
>>180667319
>>180666258
>>180665801
>>180665168
>>180664727
>>180667396
>>180664075
>>180667739


Whoops, forgot image.
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>>180667240
Yeah, fully admit I didn't play Demon's PVP as much as the other games but I remember being VERY comfy with a buffed Blue Blood Sword build.

Only thing I'll really say there is that I remember in Demon's you pretty much had to learn to toggle or die because of shit like the Mirdan Hammer and Dualkat Pushlock. No poise helped a lot of weapons for sure, but toggling was such a huge part of Demon's Souls PVP that the lack of poise didn't help them all that much in the end.
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>Invaded by arbiter spirit NARUTO
>in Frigid Outskirts
>where I'm guaranteed to have party of four
I never even found a chance to hit him
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>>180667885
It doesn't account for the different scaling softcaps in strength and dex, split damage penalties, the 2H bonuses, or the level investment necessary for poise for some weapons. And even more than that, it doesn't include moveset multipliers or defense at all.

That makes it -completely useless- compared to something like mugen, which will tell you the exact same numbers but for all stat distributions instead of just the random "meta" ones that guy chose without even knowing how the softcaps work.

Maybe when I give a fuck I'll make a better one but right now mugen's AR calculator is better in every way to that guy's autistic spreadsheet.
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>>180667636
Levels in Dex are worthless between 40 and 60. It only starts getting good again afterward. 60 is the absolute worst place to stop.

>>180667685
>doesn't know the mechanics behind the Sharp infusion buff
>accuses others of being sales shitter
Or you could just be a damn fucking retard.
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>>180667704
All that is true, but ultra weapons are also great for pubstomping in duels. Anyone who makes a single mistake gets dunked for two thirds of their health. Your armor and high damage makes you the king of trades, especially with rings to boost your health and defenses.

If you wear the wolf ring you can poise through fucking anything, and any WA that costs FP will instantly refill your poise health. You can exploit the ringed straight swords WA for infinite poise.
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>>180668202
Makes sense. But it seems like it's a good basis before using mugen to find out specifically which is best, no?
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>>180668238
>>180667893
>>180668202
three excellent ways to say the same thing:

>>180664075 fucking sucks
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>>180657837
its literally up to you, sleep on it.
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>>180667893
40/40 refined longsword = 428 damage
10 Str, 70 Dex sharp longsword = 444 damage

A whooping 16 point damage boost in exchange for far more weapon options. No offhand greatshield, no millwood greatbow sniping.
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>>180668238
I thought you meant that high dex in general is shit.
Still fuck you, you stupid Bastard and have a shitty day.
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>>180668402
No? Because you can look at a weapon's wiki page and know immediately off the top of your head what infusion is best at a glance. It's basic multiplication. See: >>180667893. The scaling letters always tell you what to level next if you remember the softcaps.

Mugen is good for figuring out tiny differences within 10% or less or comparing for vastly different level distributions, which this guy's spreadsheet doesn't even do.
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>>180668610
>>180668610
>>180668610
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>>180668579
Sounds good, thanks
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>>180668645
Can't you wait for 4 posts?
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>>180668247
It's a crutch, though. So many ultra users rely on that extreme ability to punish so that they don't have to actually learn spacing or timing.

A good ultra users is something to be afraid of, yeah, but so is a good user of any other weapon (except whips and scythes, wew). But running into a good ultra user is pretty rare, at least for me. Most of the time they just start playing ultrapassive once they realise that I'm not going to walk into their retarded poisetrades.
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>>180668543
Lothric Knight Sword picks up a ton more AR and is the superior option there anyway.

Claymore is my favorite weapon to use, and I get 496 at 40/40 one handed, 524 2 handed. At 20/75(current build for me), I get 546 1 handed at 552 2 handed. It's more points expended, but plugging in the extra points into a quality build doesn't make up for the rest of the damage. Pretty sure it would be even better on Heavy for the Claymore example as well, but I wanted to be able to use Kumo well on this build.
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>>180625716
>tfw she chuckles
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