/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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War is hell.

Been away for a long while (a month or two) hows the thread been?

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>>180559054
it's pretty good, I think.

I feel like we had a slump earlier this year, with lower quality posts than usual, but it feels like we're back to normal now.

I found a way to empty out the tavern. I blocked off all the doors and dropped a blind cave ogre in there.

>>180559813
looks like it's all ogre for them

>>180559953
They killed it easily. But I still have an army of troglodytes and trolls to dump.

Is mead a good idea?
Also any news about the myth update?

>>180560963
Mead is worth less than any other kind of alcohol. Don't ask, it's the way Toady does things.
The myth update will hopefully come after this one, which will most likely come sometime next month.

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Well yo probably sitting in front of the table in the dinning hall scratching your beard thinking, i just want some damn peach while eating.

Well your in luck today, your waiting is over.
We have made great innovative strides to make the perfect portable soundproofing device.. This machine will block out all and every sound for the user even capable of blocking out the high pitch screeching of dying ellfs.
Its smooth design makes it easy to transport and its made of a special multi layered leather that act as a outer barrier and a final lead insert that blocks out even kobold mind tricks.
the entire device is worn like a hat and is painted in stylish purple to give it that fancy look.
Its also comes with our special bone sinew clamps and straps that will securely attach it to the head of the wearer.

>Clamps might be worn out over time rendering them static, proving impossible to open.

Dorfyelp.wav

>>180561860
Goblins scream even louder when all of their limbs are cut off, and this is a problem for me. Does this work with those too?

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Are there any graphical packs for the latest version of DF? Does Mayday still make one?

>>180562638

indeed

>>180562648
Of course there are! I have no idea about mayday, though. A lot of graphics packs will still work with this version, though.

>>180562703
That is good. I'll be using these the next time I go to a dark pits.

>>180561860
These shambone posts have a special place in my heart.

>>180562648
>Are there any graphical packs for the latest version of DF?
yes

>Does Mayday still make one?
yes, but it's shit

How much have the RAW files changed since 40.24? I want to import my old modded files.

>>180563720
There's some new tags for creatures playable in adventure, also some animals were slightly tweaked. I think there's more animal people and giant variations, although that might have been added pre-40.24.
I wouldn't straight up copy over the old RAWs, but there shouldn't be any glaring incompatibilities outside of the adventure thing.

>>180564050
not him, but doesn't using faulty raws (i.e. the old adventurer tokens) sometimes crash the game?

I'd just redo the same changes to the new raws.

What is the most painful death you've ever witnessed in this game?

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I cannot believe this is working

>>180564860
My female hammerdorf captain watching her son grow up to also join her squad and then be killed by the undead and becoming to melancholy to continue fighting herself

>>180564860
A goblin, bleeding to death after my wolf man adventurer cut of all of its limbs, ignoring his cries of mercy, and watching the crying creature until it died of blood loss.

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>>180564871
Holy fuck I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS WORKING
>Guy 1 shots a pikeman with a headshot
>Give him nickname Sniper

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>>180565143
Now THIS is target pratice

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Dwarves unloaded into the goblins for about 10 minutes before their casualities were too great and they started to fled, at that point I sent out my melee dwarves to mop up the rest.
Didnt lose a single man, killed about 25 or so goblins.
May have lost about 300 rounds of iron bolts, buh eh, good shit.

>>180565143
>>180565326
The most satisfying of victories, bested only by using tamed cavern beasts and siege weapons. 8/10, you made me proud.
>places bone crossbow down and tips leather cap

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During the siege however I managed to capture 1 wounded swordsgoblin.
What should I do with her?
>>180566012
Thanks! My dwarves went from dabbling and competent markdwarves to talented in adept pretty fast

>>180566116
put the cage somewhere as decoration.

she'll live forever, and will never have to eat. maybe she'll even outlive your fort.

>>180566423
Caged things still don't have to eat?

Wtf toady

>>180566467
Goblins don't, they be immortal :0

>make a Galena ore stockpile
>don't have enough wheelbarrows for it
>the entire fortress dies for a couple months as a giant mob of dehydrated, starving dorfs haul six tons of boulders through the tunnels
>everyone's depressed because they haven't prayed, talked to anyone, or done anything other than haul a boulder for two months

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>Rummaging through battlefield
>Find a random book
>Do we understand Medical Ethics?
Clearly not because your dead hehe

>train my metalsmith by making lead flasks on repeat
>intend to sell them to the elves
>all my military dorfs pick them up and start using them
Uh oh

>>180566975
I've seen bard come during undead siege. He saw a zombie and started beating him with his shitty lute. It didn't work.

In adventurer mode, is it possible to become both a necromancer and a vampire? If not, which one is preferable?

>>180569671
You can. I like necro because it works better with fortress mode and it makes it possible to kill archangel without cheese.

>>180569671
It's fully possible. In fact, being a vampire makes getting necromancy trivial since all you have to do is walk to the tower and grab the slab.

>>180570008
Great. I should grab vampire before necro, though, right, since necro freezes stats?

>>180570008
>not being a true badass and going full RIP AND TEAR on horde

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Am I the only one wh wishes Toady would improve the way fires work?

They should be way more dangerous and unpredictable than they currently are. Air currents should be taken into account, and players shouldn't necessarily be safe from fire just because the fort is dug out of rock.

Players should also be able to found some kind of fire department to fight the fires. It could use the same system as the new locations.

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That's the first time I see that message.

The log can be ridiculously specific.

>>180570116
Sounds like another thing to melt the CPU if it gets out of hand.

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>>180570427
>chubby harpy

>>180570091
>Becoming a necromancer also freezes your attributes so that they cannot rust or be increased. Therefore, it might be wise to raise your attributes to a high level before becoming a necromancer. (However, this does not seem to be happening in the current version, probably due to a bug). (Or it's a design choice. Because let's be honest, just because you're a necromancer doesn't mean you can't learn new things, right?)
Wiki.

>>180570427
>>180570617
How does it fly if it's chubby

>>180570879
It uses the fat folds to help in gliding

>>180570802
I don't think it was ever happening. I think it's just some viral misinformation that spread through the community. Whoever wrote also apparently doesn't know the difference between a skill and an attribute.

>>180570879
it farts to propel itself

>>180571112
Why am I laughing so much at this thought?

>>180570116
Fire is mostly fine the way it is. Once it can consume nonfiresafe constructions and natural walls it will behave pretty naturally. There's no reason that building/digging with firesafe materials shouldn't be an adequate defense against wildfires. We could certainly do with a means of starting fires on demand in fort mode, though.

>>180571217
Same reason I'm erect probably.

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>>180570617

>>180572404
que puto asco

Reclaiming a fort I lost to a werezebra infestation. Wish me luck bois

>>180575787
http://www.crunchyroll.com/my-hero-academia

My Hero Academia (Episode 1)

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What do you think the spookiest thing in DF is?

>>180577405
Just the underworld in general for me. Think about it. Like really try to visualize how the underworld must look. A massive wasteland of slade and ash, lit by glowing pits that dimly illuminate towering, monstrous figures that lumber through the eternal twilight. Every other cave layer has some ecosystem and natural logic to it. But Hell doesn't. Its just feels like an entirely different reality superimposed over our own, that if let loose is absolutely guaranteed to end all life as we know it.

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>>180577757
Whoops forgot my picture

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>>180577757
>tfw you're just minding your own business mining ore when all of a sudden you open a portal to an abyss of eternal darkness
Truly the most horrifying feeling.
Has anyone ever tried to conquer hell before?

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>decide to play without exploits
>blithely build a self-propelled draining machine
Goddammit.

>>180578558
One guy did it with 20 legendary dorfs and alot of cave dragons i think.

>>180577757
don't forget that hell even has it's own sky

If i open up hell can i close it again? I'm always super careful around adamantine. mining around each block to make sure i can mine it without unleashing anything.

>>180580132
As long as you place something like a floor or wall made of magma-safe material you should be fine, but your FPS is gonna take a hit from the umpteen gorillion demons

>>180580487
don't forget the old locked-floorhatch-that-can't-be-destroyed-from-below trick

>>180577405
Evil clouds that come out of nowhere and turn everything they rain on into a superzombie hellbent on wiping out all life.

>>180575787
>>180575889
heard about it some times
is it worth a watch?

>>180575889
>posting crunchyroll streams in a video games general
????

>>180558004
>600 year war
>300-something battles
>only 1 victory
>0 deaths
wut

>>180578558
>>180579670
A lot of people have. It's really easy to cheese the initial wave of demons, and possible to defeat them without cheese with a lot of planning and a lot of fighters. After that it's just securing a foothold against the occasional random spawn. Sometimes hell even does most of the work for you, having a bunch of soft demons and a single deadly duster type among them will result in a lot of friendly kills.

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>>180558004
>>180583502
It's a crazy war indeed.

>>180583078
no idea, try asking on >>>/a/

>>180583760
What would the benefits of conquering hell be?

>>180584002
Bragging rights and lots of clown meat.

>>180583886
I want to know if an anime is good
not if it's bad, thanks you

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>>180584056
>clown meat
Wouldn't the dwarves complain that their food tastes funny though?

>>180584002
To take joy in slaughter.
Seriously, though, why do you do anything in DF beyond the bare minimum required to survive? Whatever your answer to that question is also your answer to your own question.

kil dorf

>>180584716
I was more curious if anything about whether or not Hell had some super secret stuff in it that would help you

>>180583078
It's shit.
You'll love it.

>>180566467
>>180566535
Yeah caged things that do need to eat will starve to death (grazers etc.) but things that don't need to eat normally still don't if they're in a cage.

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Is there an easy way to make the combat icon appear only when something starts to murder my dorfs?

Does Toady plan to add any kind of functionality whereby we can send our own dwarfs out to do adventuring/mercenary work and such? Would be nice to be able to send idling military dorfs out on 2-3 month long missions to get loot and bring it back. Maybe have a mercenary company as a zone?

>>180587151
Erm... the very next update, coming in a month or less?

>>180587263
Oh shit, I totally forgot. Sorry, I misremembered and thought that update was for a mod or something. Cool!

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Playing as an insect archer in Adventure mode is suffering.

>>180588045
Is it because you have so many limbs to control?

>>180588495
No.
It's because of the fact that insect men can barely lift a quiver full of arrows without slowing down to a snails pace.

How come I'm still not receiving any dwarfs with any social skills? I thought most dwarfs at the very least had novice in some of the social skills but so far out of 30+ dwarfs the only one with any social skills at all is my expedition leader. What gives?

So apparently Poisonous Vapours makes your dwarves completely fine, then they'll suddenly become paralyzed and die.
Good to know, RIP militiadwarf

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>first fort
>get 81 invaders on year 2
>second fort, take my security more seriously
>get literally 1 invader on year 2, 7 invaders on year 3

I love that authors write books about themselves writing a book

>>180589217
You gotta make sure that autobiography is up-to-date, man.

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>>180588813
>embark in savage jungle to catch some giant animals
>everything remotely fun fucks off in like two months after embark and never appears again
Every. Single. Time.

>>180589715
>Embark in probably the one place with no goblin civ by accident
>Constantly getting gobbo visitors, but no baddies
>Only real threats so far have been a giantess (she got one punch off before dying) and an Ettin (immediately headshotted in both heads)

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>Doesnt even draw weapon
Holy shit

>>180590042
Jesus Christ...I know crundles are pushovers but that was some hardcore shit right there

>>180590042
Jesus Christ it's female Senator Armstrong.

How do I confiscate all silver flasks/rings from my dorfs
They're slowing themselves down with them and I need cash

>>180590370
crundles are tiny

>>180591356
I dont know, If I punched a chicken as hard as I could I dont think id explode

>>180577405
I'd say that were-elk is a pretty good contender.

>>180591353
jew

Is it possible to strategically fuck up the environment with magma pumps at every single possible embark site to the point where the entire planet's ecosystem is ruined?

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So I got sieged again, this time by a smaller force composed of mostly dwarves?
They were hostile dwarves alongside goblins with human bone rings and trinkets, pretty disgusting, im assuming they were kidnapped children.
I actually lost a man this siege despite the fact it was half the size of the last siege. A poor fort Guard (Poorly armoured guys with spears meant to guard the entrance to the caverns and kill crundles and the like) got decimated by the numbers of them all.
Something about that hammerdwarf who blew up the crundles chest is amazing, I nicknamed her armstrong, and nearly every single hit she did caused a limp to explode in gore or the like with her silver warhammer.

>>180592286
Actually that's a good question, what happens if you make a perpetual pump stack pumping from the magma sea to the surface, then retire and visit that fort in adventure mode?

>>180592496
I would carefully lock miss armstrong in a room for a while and see if she gets hungry.

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>>180592659
No way shes a vampire, just very skilled and well trained, super young and somehow incrediably strong and agile. Probably just got lucky with my migrates.
Turns out she got an injury to the head, which doesnt make sense as all my guys got iron helmets.

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>>180591426
You don't punch very hard.

>>180592891
Do helms not cover cheeks? This doesnt make real sense
She got her head torn up and her cheek torn up from this, despite being in full iron armour (Helm, Mail, Breasplate, Greaves, High Boots, Gauntlets, Leather legging, robes, mittens, socks and a cloak)

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>>180592531

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>>180593026
forgot pic

Where are coins located when trading with merchants at a depot? I cant see coins.

>>180593434
you might have to search for them, like with mechanisms

>150 dwarf fort
>nothing left to do until the update comes out and I can start military campaigns against my neighbors
>want to play it once the update comes out
>want to play another fort until then
Should I just make another world, or should I retire and then unretire it?

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Well after a tree-less embark and a tree-less cavern I got to say this isn't very exciting.
After the first 1-2 years caravans bring me so much wood the challenge is pretty much already over.
The start was tough because of no bins (and copper bins, too). That's pretty much it.

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>bowyer goes into secretive mood
>shit yeah time for a manly ass artifact crossbow my legendary marksman will love this!
>it's a fucking BOW
>with pictures of TREES
Executing him for being an elf as I type this

>>180596151
He put an image of the bow on the bow? What in the fuck?

>>180596151
>Image of itself on itself
what the fuck

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>>180593026
>>180593190
They do not cover cheeks

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>>180596265
>>180596339
like this

>>180596265
>>180596339
lol that's nothing http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Planepacked

>>180597270
Holy fuck

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Breaching the caverns were a mistake

>>180596339
>>180596265
It's because the image is generated only when the player views it. And when it's generated it chooses from everything available at the time the player viewed it. So it can be of itself. Or even of future events. I wonder if a dwarf has ever engraved his own death on an artifact lel.

>71 dwarves
>50 are in some form of the military
>All my civvie dwarves keep dying to cave crocodile and poisonous vapour forgotten beasts.

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>>180599230
Also fuck, i got poisonous vapour forgotten beasts twice. Even with marksdwarves I lose 5+ guys.

I want to make a fortress with no military. All its defenses come in the form of traps and civilian defenses like siege engines. An active military will be shunned as a tool of oppression. I'll also decline a barony every time I'm asked. What else should I do for flavor?

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>>180598525
I've got an image of a right glove made after the left on the left glove.

>>180599575
Impossible atm, Weapon traps are bugged. Weapons now break but weapon traps are programmed for this so when they break the game crashes, which can be in like 4 hits.

>>180599869
I was thinking of using stonefall traps and ballistae mostly, but yeah, I guess that's not as exciting as watching weapon traps tear gobbos to bits. I guess I'll build my comfy above ground taiga fortress next and play the civilian fort next patch.

>>180599869
He could use cage traps. And he could replace the weapon traps after one use.

>>180600070
I've always wanted to do a taiga fort. Any idea how to go about that?

>>180557862
Is it worth it to dye all of your cloth? Does the value of the clothes increase the happy thoughts?

>>180600368
I was thinking of finding a taiga near a volcano and using lava to provide heating in wood log cabins. Maybe have a herd of reindeer for food, and farm blueberries, cranberries, and bilberries (those are the only things that grow in tundras, and even if it's just a taiga it adds to the flavor).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p40p0AVUH70

opinions on this?

>>180600960
>1 hour

nigga

>>180600432
I've personally always found it to be more of a pain in the ass than it's worth, but that's just me. My textile industry consists of me buying bins of leather from merchants and turning it into clothes. I know that putting on a well-crafted item gives dwarves a happy thought, not sure if it gets "more happy" with increased quality.

>>180601824
Thanks.

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how do I stop this

>>180603379
sorry, stop what in particular?

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>>180603635
>make a few manager job orders
>later decide I want some more cloth bags so make a manager job order for that too
>promote cloth bag order to highest priority from the manager menu
>doesn't matter the clothier's workshop keeps juggling the orders in random order
>promote the cloth bag order to highest priority in the workshop
>doesn't matter
>make a specific PRODUCE CLOTH BAG IN REPEAT, DO THIS TASK NOW
>he does one
>then starts doing random manager orders

>>180604308
Make two clothiers workshops and have one make the bags and the other the clothing?

>>180604430
I only have one non-dabbling clothier

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>Fort is starving on migrates I need to start taking in Human mercenaries to protect the cavaran, highest mortality rate is from those places (Not goblins or titans of all fucking things)
>Usually dont take non-dwarves as I like to play like a paranoid racist
>Mfw humans are better fighters than dwarves
>Mfw humans dont have cave adaptation
>Mfw humans are bigger
>Mfw I can make large armour at blacksmiths for them
Why was I racist to humans before?

Are there any mods that change the biome availability of above ground crops? It seems like outside mountains, glaciers, and tundras, a huge majority can just be farmed anywhere.

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>>180604308
Also since we're at this topic: How to prevent dorfs from instantly nabbing finished goods?
Every random fucking dwarf I check has a silver ring, two *siltstone earring*, and masterwork clothes. I was going to trade those you fucker.

>>180604757
>he can't handle his dwarves being fly as fuck pimped out OGs

>>180604896
I'D ALSO LIKE TO DECORATE THEIR SHIT IN THAT CASE BUT NOO

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How advanced do you all think the culture generation will be?

>>180604569
just started a new fort and thought I'd do "inclusive fort". sure goblin bard, have a bedroom! elf poet? the more the merrier!

so now in the 3rd year of my fort, literally 30 jackasses from different civs came to "visit" aka petition to live in my place in one season. i've started turning them all away. it seems like the more accepting you are the more they flock to your site

I wish tantrum spirals were still a thing. I haven't seen one since 0.40 came out.

>>180570116
atmospherics comes after the law and order update

Can somebody with modding experience help me out here? I added [SITE_CONTROLLABLE] and [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE], among other things, to Kobolds, but despite there being an active kobold civ, they aren't an option in fortress mode. Why?

>>180589217
>>180589340
That reminds me of something I read somewhere, which said that although it might be true that everyone has one good book in them, but nobody ever said that everyone has two good books in them, and editors tend to see a lot of aimless novels where the protagonist is a writer who is struggling to come up with a second book after modest success with his first, written by authors who have published exactly one modestly successful book.

>>180589715
>a65.png
>has only 48

>>180594692
There's a very good chance that the next update will be a save-compat-break, so don't count on being able to send soldiers out on missions from any fort you've got in the current version.

>>180598525
That explanation would make plenty of sense if it weren't for things like >>180427108 unless it's just statues that work differently from other types of images.

>>180599869
How quickly the weapons in traps break depends on the weapons, their material and that of their targets. Apparently serrated glass disks are practically guaranteed to break immediately against any armored target, while I imagine adamantine weapon traps would be quite durable.

>>180604757
The only methods I know are either saturation, which is expensive and unreliable (probably an understatement), or keeping the goods away from the sticky fingers of your cupidinous denizens, which in the case of things like jewelry is fortunately as simple as not allowing it into any stockpiles, since they don't seem to claim it except when they're SUPPOSED to be hauling it and bringing it to the trade depot doesn't let them claim it. For clothes you have to either make sure to forbid it as soon as it gets made, or maybe keep it locked away from everyone but the clothier until it's ready to be traded. Seems like a headache either way.

>>180605313
>tfw I can tell which board that screenshot is from just from the post number in it

>>180610251
>That explanation would make plenty of sense if it weren't for things like >>180427108 (Cross-thread) unless it's just statues that work differently from other types of images.
I'm no expert, it's just what I read on here about artifacts telling the future and having images of themselves. Statues may be a whole different story.

>>180610251
>That explanation would make plenty of sense if it weren't for things like >>180427108 → # unless it's just statues that work differently from other types of images.
No, he's right, and statues aren't an exception. Why would a statue depicting a historical event make any difference? It's implicit in the premise that the pool of historical events is referenced the first time the image is viewed that it's checking all qualifying historical events, not just the ones that have happened since the onject was made.

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Best idea I've had
>build extra magma forges, set them all to dabbling skill level max
>set all my "serious" magma forges to novice skill level min
>make copper bolts on repeat
>enable weaponsmithing in all my useless migrants
End result: All my migrants are taking turns raising their weaponsmithing to novice, then never touching a forge again
Now all of them have an extremely useful moodable skill so they stop making shitty artifact siltstone figurines

>>180613903
It'd be better to set the serious forges to adequate minimum to prevent the newbs from taking weaponsmith jobs and making low-quality weapons (assuming you have more higher-level weaponsmiths).

>>180614146
That's what I meant, you're right, adequate minimum so there's no overlap

>>180604470
suspend the other jobs until the order is done

>>180613903
the highest moodable skill is always selected

>>180613903
Looks like you've got a mason or stone detailer in there. Those are both moodable skills.

>>180614626
>>180615043
They're not trained yet, that's the point

>>180615361
If they're going to keep doing the stone detailing or masonry, or the skill is higher than you're capping weaponsmithing, then weaponsmithing won't be possible as a the selected skill for the mood.

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>decide to add sounds to more creatures so you can hear more things in adventure mode
>test it out
>you can hear all cave creatures on the surface
>every few steps you hear chittering (magma crab), grunts (troglodytes), or an echoing croak (giant cave toad)

Can you build adventurer sites underground?

>>180617174
yes

>>180617919
Radical

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>>180617174
Hmmm.

We got an ETA on the next release? Feel the urge to Dorf but don't know whether I should wait or not.

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Gorlak... you don't have to lie to me... you can just admit you hate turkey
>>180619751
A month or less

>>180620023
those are tears of joy, buttmunch

>>180558930
>>180559073
>>180559201
lol, nice.

>>180613096
If the image depicted by the statue isn't determined until the player examines it, how does a statue of histfig1 show up as a statue of histfig2 before being examined without the game knowing that it's a statue which depicts an event involving both histfig1 and histfig2?

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>embark in the middle of nowhere
>first goblin invasion has 70+ goblins, 20 trolls, and a shitton of beak dogs

>embark right next to gigantic, sprawling goblin empire with about a hundred world tiles of adjacent goblin sites
>first goblin invasion has literally 1 goblin
>second has 6 goblin bowmen
>third has 6 goblin bowmen
toady why

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>>180623026
Art images are composed of art image chunks which consist of the various components you can specify when making a statue/engraving/carving a figurine.

That list is filled with relevant entries as needed, but it is only needed when you view it.

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>>180623428
That wasn't the picture I meant to link, I have an artifact somewhere with an image of a forgotten beast being struck down and I was the one who killed it but I can't remember the name now.

The other bit I forgot while trying to recall that name was this: a specified image has certain differences from random ones, they said "make a statue which contains x" so it went through and grabbed something which they knew about involving x, which was the marriage of x and y, with y being the scupltor themself.

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Update: the Gorlak has joined me. I tricked him into thinking we would be enterertainers by telling him a story about a dead previous companion. Now he follows me everywhere, cheerfully greeting everything he sees before I mercily slaughter it before his eyes. Truly Gorlaks are an adventurer's best friend.

How the dang do you guys do job management ,especially with higher populations? Even with DwarfTherapist I find it difficult to keep track of things. I currently just use autolabor and disable it if I need something like mass constructing or mining done

>>180624759
I ignore it until I notice shit isn't getting done fast enough so I find a bunch of useless cheesemakers and give them picks.

>>180624759
Rudimentary "caste" system: Disable auto-labors completely so every immigrant is a hauler until assigned otherwise. When activating a labor on any dwarf, replace their first name with it.
Dorfs are thus divided into Nicknamed and Not Nicknamed. Nicknameds are guaranteed to always have a defined job and Not Nicknameds can be promoted or drafted at any time safely.

>>180624947
is this why so many last names are professions?

>>180599869
again, this bug is fixed next update

What are the best DF mods?

>>180624759
I just v p l as migrants enter the map. Tweak later as needed, which isn't often. Most tweaks I make are just disabling hauling labors on dwarves who need to focus on their primary profession, adding mining and/or engraving to dwarves who've already mooded in a skill I preferred, and tossing randos into the fishing/plant gathering rotation when I decide to have a fishing or flower picking season. If you catch your dwarves while they're still new arrivals you can set your labor force up however you want it before they ever do a single job. If you don't know how you want your labor force set up, that's a different problem altogether from the logistics of labor management, and not a problem you can fix by trying to address it from that angle.

>>180625118
He's saying he nicknames the dwarves himself. Dwarves surnames are random, and choose from the same pool of dwarven words as the first names.

>>180628394
I think they mean in real life, Shepherd, Smith, Cockgobbler, Glazer, etc.

God I love having soundsense on in a rainy biome. The rain tracks and the sort of somber music I've been getting really set the tone I'm going for for my fortress anyway. (Kind of a depressing, sort of run down medieval castle)

>>180629114
>Cockgobbler
Fred A. Cockgobbler would be a hell of a name for a kid

>>180630359
how do you know if its a rainy biome?

>>180632229
Because it rains like, year-round. Outside of the area immediately surrounding my fortress walls is just a ridiculously thick jungle. It's nice, really

Am I experiencing some sort of bug or something when none of my migrants ever have any social skills? Even the ones that have a job title that would otherwise imply their social skills they have fuck all. Literally only one dorf in my fortress of like 60 has any social skills at all.

>>180632768
>giving dwarves social skills
That time spent socializing is a waste of alcohol drinking and working time.

>>180632801
Not the point. By default -some- of my migrants should have acquired social skills of even dabbling level at their previous fort, and some of the dorfs who have been in my fort for several years haven't picked up any social skills either. It's fucking weird and irritating considering how much time my dorfs spend socializing anyway.

>The Dead Walk!
>clearly see two tiles while the alert is on screen
>then they leave immediately
Is this normal?

>>180632948
Sometimes weird shit happens. I reclaimed a ruin and I've been getting "Ambush!" alerts several times a year because all of the ambushers are deep in the caves I haven't even discovered yet.

>>180633026
Well hopefully they'll come back.

>>180632907
Also, the only martial skills my migrants seem to arrive with is marksdwarf and nothing else. Not even armor user, dodger, biter, etc. Just marksdwarf, and rarely higher than novice. I've had to rely on mercenaries mostly because I just do not have the population right now to properly train up the dwarfs I do have.

>>180632948
yes. did they not see you?

>>180634221
I don't know. Something similar just happened where a Necromancer entered the map then left straight away. Must have more important places to raid.

>>180634339
Ah, he just came back, with a friend. They managed to resurrect a yak skeleton which killed a peasant and a macedwarf before the rest of the squads arrived to put the three of them back down.

>>180630869
Only if their father was named Richard Daniel Peneras and they changed their name as a joke.

Dick D. Peneras.

>>180632948
They just passed through. They do that if your fort happens in the way of their overmap travel.

>>180627625
Masterwork :^)

>>180627625
I've heard a lot of good things about Dark Ages

>>180627625
The mod of your dreams that you will make yourself.

Are there any good swashbuckling mods for DF?

>Forts at 20fps
Time to retire?

>>180639304
why?

you should be able to play until at least 10 fps

>>180639304

Sounds frustrating/unplayable to me

>>180639553
>>180639576
Problem is im only 3 years in a 1x2 embark at 84 pop cap.
I got an I5, dont know why its chugging
Is there a way to trigger sieges/megabeast/forgotten beasts attacks at lower pops?

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Reminder that this is how dorfs should be operating a wheelbarrow

>>180639747
Is there a mod that makes calender speed go faster? like a fast forward button

>>180639304
just let it run in the background if you are waiting for a seige or something

>>180639976
I think it's init changeable.

I've never tried it, though. might be a fun way to get a more slow paced and comfy experience, where your fort doesn't grow so rapidly.

>>180640859
scratch that, it's not changeable. no idea why I thought it was

>>180635687
They didn't just pass through. That's not a thing that happens yet. It's a known bug.

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I did not know this could happen.

>>180639747
I know there is a tag in the civ init that said something along the lines of siege:3. reduce it to 2 or 1 to get earlier sieges

>>180641158
Some guy a few months back tried to force it as a meme.

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oh no

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>>180642879
okay what the fuck
>Be a diplomat
>have no tongue
>go to a meeting discuss laws and stuff
>pofpfpfptpfpfpfpptpftpfgpfptpftptfptp

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So i found out why this diplomat is a goblin.
Apparently its from a human civ, she said "Such a nice place you carved out for yourself..." Which is what the humans generally say...

>>180642879
For vanilla humans, "diplomat" also means law-giver.

Looks like that gobbo managed to become Queen of All Humans.

>>180643139
I also had a goblin law-giver visit my fort. She died of alcohol poisoning.

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fuck it, I'm gonna build it.

I'll limit it to four high rises and a few of the lower buildings, though.

>>180641751
Yep, guests can eventually petition for citizenship, whereupon (if you accept) you can finally assign labors and put their asses to work

>>180645113
I make the humans do all the dirty work.

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>>180645043
I finished up a small plan of the high rises.

Le Corbusier only intended these towers to be office buildings, but since the number of offices in DF is so small, I'll expand its use to also house industries, storage and possible also taverns.

>>180570879
It's a big bird

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>>180647159
for you

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>>180646396
I'm now planning out the surrounding network of footpaths and elevated bridges.

As it currently stands, there will be two towers (offices, industries, storage, etc) and two lower buildings (dwellings). It will be 3x3 embark tiles (144x144 in-game tiles).

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>>180648297
now for designing the lower buildings.

Is this not just a more older and archaic Minecraft really? cant really see how it does anything better than minecraft

>>180648996
is minecraft even in active development anymore?

I rarely hear anyone talk about it.

>>180606181
True. In a similar vein, ever since the update where you could harvest plants/fruit from trees and shit, my dwarves have lived like kings (at "normal" embark sites at least). At my current fort sand pear and persimmon wine flows freely, and a vast stockpile of pecan/walnut roasts keeps everyone well fed.

>>180649065
Allegedly, but the updates it has are so far apart and they add such random shit it's bizarre really.
Hard to believe such a world craze was bought out by Microsoft and they STILL dropped the ball on it. Kind of the same as Pokemon Go.

>>180648996
the attention to detail is unparalleled. the tone of the game is completely different. i dunno, i think there's an appeal that's not entirely present in minecraft (not to hate on minecraft or anything)

Minecraft gets boring real quick for me.

>>180648996
Story generation.

>a female giant cave swallow finally went in to one of my cage traps
About fucking time.

>>180648996
Look, this game focuses on gameplay rather than graphics. This world generates a history, and if you want graphics, just get another free asset to the game, graphics packs. Can you slay a roc in minecraft? Can you cut of the limbs of goblins and watch as they bleed out in minecraft? DOES MINECRAFT HAVE ACCURATE GEOLOGY? DOES MINECRAFT HAVE NECROMANCY? IS MINECRAFT PLANNING ON GALLEONS AND THE MOST COMPLEX MAGIC SYSTEM EVER?
Can you see the emotions of alcoholic dwarves in minecraft? Also, dorf fort is free.
For more info, visit http://bay12games.com/dwarves/features.html
and http://bay12games.com/dwarves/

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>>180648882
I finished up the dwellings. Although I might change the window and room layout.

This new update all but confirms that Tanya wants to get into Toady's pants to steal his krabby patty secret formula.

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>>180632768
>tfw there's a fort full of legitimately autistic dwarves

when will we get a building permit system and building inspection office to control the rampant dwarven building craze

>The King hire dabbling Masons to build his new throne room, inspector comes and royal scandal inbound.
>Stonemason Union laugh as they rebuild the throne room for twice the price and quality.

Give me bureaucracy and regulations Toady not magic and shenanigans

>>180651041
I tried listening to the latest interview Roguelike Radio made with him, but constantly hearing the URR dev refer to himself as an "academic" made me cringe so hard I had to turn it off.

Regarding the book, it seems like Toady was dragged into it by Tanya and the URR dev. They seem to be way more enthusiastic about it than Toady (the URR dev even wrote like three of the articles in it).

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not the one pushing the conspiracy theory memes about Tanya. It's just obvious that this book isn't Toady's project. It's someone else's project that he got dragged into, and since he's a pretty nice and somewhat autistic guy, he probably has problems saying no to requests.

New player here, how do you deal with the fucking migrant waves?
Currently I just take 95% and put them in my concentration camp and let them mine until they're dead, but thats kinda tedious.

Playable forgotten beasts when

>>180652408
I'm sure Max will show up soon and excitedly babble to you about a cool script for playing anything from demons to sapient pearwood luggage.

>>180652408
when the old script for swapping bodies gets updated to the current dfhack release

>>180652243
Change init to limit population cap then no more migrants.

Anyone have experience in using minecarts to raise magma for magma forges?
I only need like 6 tiles worth of magma, I figure using minecarts could potentially be easier than a pump stack, no?

>>180652243
Usually a sign that you should be drafting them into your military and watch them spend all their time in a 6x6 square.
Also, remember that having idlers is not really a TERRIBLE thing. It's OK. You don't need to be 100% effective at all times. Just have fun.

What would a cave trap look like? Does it drop down from a rope?

>>180653295
the hardest thing is getting your speed right at the bottom. you want the cart going slow enough to fill but fast enough to make it out. typically my system involves a power generator and chain at the bottom then impulse ramps back to the top

You guys enjoying version 17 of Rimworld?

Glad doctors can finally fucking fix themselves.

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>>180653904
Are there z-levels yet, mr rimworlder?

>>180654073
N...no.

But we got player caravans and raids, also world quests. Oh, and no fps death.

>>180654152
>no fps death
There were people in /rwg/ complaining about FPS going down with age.
I'd check to confirm but there's no such thread.
Now, why could that be?

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>>180654152

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>>180653904
Stop bringing /rwg/ into /dfg/.

Is there any way to view other peoples' attributes and personality in adventure mode? It's annoying recruiting people only for them to run away when we face anything more challenging than a weasel.

>>180653295
>>180653698
You don't need to carve tracks or worry about speed to use minecarts to get magma up. Do this:
>dig a drainable magma reservoir near your magma source
>make a stockpile for magmasafe minecarts in the reservoir
>fill and then drain the reservoir

You now have minecarts full of magma. Next:

>make a new stockpile near where you want the magma
>assign wheelbarrows to it
>once wheelbarrows are in place, delete the other stockpile

Now dwarves will wheel the minecarts up to their destination. Final steps:

>make a trackstop that dumps into the trench or hole you want to fill with magma
>create a hauling route where that is the only stop
>assign your magma-filled minecarts until the hole is filled to the desired level

Easy as plump helmet pie.

>>180652243
See
>>180628282

>>180655809
damn, that's brilliant

Maximum distance that marksdwarves will shoot through? I have ripe caged troglodytes and an armored gobbo for them, I want live fire target practice but I want it to be far away so it lasts as much as possible.

So, one of the migrants is an armorer (very low lvl) but got a strange mood. I didn't have any bars at the time, so I could either go with iron, gold or copper.

I went with gold because I figured the crazy quality modifier would be nice to increase the wealth of the fort, even though the result would probably be useless.

Did I fuck up?

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I downloaded the Dark Age mod and I got sidetracked with making a political map of my first world. Humans and normal Dwarves don't seem to exist here. I don't know if that's part of the mod or not.

With this map I tried making the boundaries less arbitrary by consulting the land claims shown in Legends mode. Where claims were a clusterfuck, like in the northeastern continent, I demarcated borders based on biomes and whomever had the most control over them, so Elves usually got all the woods running up to the borders of their neighbors. I also tried to make territories contiguous when possible.

I will try and make future maps more aesthetic.

>>180657032
No. You chose the most fun over the most practicality.
Your Baron will now have golden pants to wear on his golden throne.

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>>180657163
>he doesn't wear bone pants on a bone throne

>>180657669
I already extincted elks a long while ago, nothing else wanders into my embark anymore.

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>>180584160

>>180658512
what about elk birds tho

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>>180639976
No, but I submitted this script to dfhack: https://pastebin.com/9LmTY8LQ

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>>180652408
Well I... >>180652714 ...oh, ok then, nice Discworld reference btw.
Still, this would let you pick from different races, though I still need to fix a few things: https://pastebin.com/4uqsbzec

Oh, what about... >>180652806 oh... ok then.

This should work as a bodyswap script since dfusion is never getting updated: https://pastebin.com/Bgtkscjz

Does anyone else feel weird making nest boxes out of anything other than wood?

>>180662814

Yes

>>180662814
>using wood
elv xD

>>180660831
what's this?

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>>180664024
First one is an attempt to populate the choose race screen with generated creatures for adventuring with (generventurated.lua) and second one is an attempt to cover the hole left by dfusion bodyswap being gone (assumecontrol.lua) while the post before lets you choose when the updating calendar process finishes (updatefinish.lua).

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>military screen allows me to specifically order dorfs to wear thongs made from leather of the Anonymous Forgotten Beast #17524
>has no option to assign fucking bone greaves

>>180664541
>military screen allows me to specifically order dorfs to wear thongs made from leather of the Anonymous Forgotten Beast #17524
you can't.

I'm pretty sure all fb items are made out of the same generic "forgotten beast" materials.

>>180665030
Then it's even more sad, because there is an entire fucking wall of "forgotten beast leather" in the uniform material options.

Also I checked out of curiosity and this issue was reported SEVEN YEARS AGO. For fuck's sake Toady, stop adding new shit to the game and fix what already exists.

>>180665789
>stop adding new shit to the game
fuck off, I need the new shit

>>180662814
No, I grew up in a farm where the chickens basically just roamed wherever the fuck they wanted and there was a small shack with a 7x7 grid of stacked hen-sized open concrete cubicles embedded into the wall that served as "next boxes".
The chickens didn't mind. They'd climb onto bags to reach the upper nests. They didn't care.

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>page 10

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>>180669167
I love that genre, whatever it's called. it's like DF OC guro.

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>page 10

Which race has the hottest females, and why is it the demons

>>180672482
>some huge blob made out of mud with deadly braps
>hot

>>180673009
>that
>not hot
shit taste

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red zircon

How do I access the underworld?
I cannot dig deeper after a certain z-level due to semi-molten rock

>>180675008
There's literally one single cinematic in the game and it shows every time you start it up

>>180616248
That might be something to report to Toady about

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Make your bets, lads.

Unfortunately, it's a blacksmith.

>>180676430
A legendary lever

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MY FLAMETHROWER BUNKER WORKS
HAHA YES
Magma crabs are shooting molten rock at gobbos. Holy shit

>>180676430
a chest

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EVERYTHING IS BURNING
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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THE FIRE RISES

>>180676768
You are a genius.

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>>180676496
>>180676938

>>180677216
Hey, that's grate, anon.

>>180676430
betting 5 helm plumps on a bucket.

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90 goblins and beak dogs, dead to a magma crab and 20 crossbowmen
God bless ranged combat

>>180675473
He surely knows about it, the sounds feature is just underutilized and low-priority

>>180678464
does the magma crab have a title now? i imagine goblins speaking of the dread beast in hushed tones

>>180678629
Unfortunately no, you get credit towards titles for dealing the killing blow to a creature, yet all of its kills were from them getting him from magma and burning alive, which doesnt count as he melted and wasnt "slayed"

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>>180676943
Ah the manic "MY PLAN WORKED WITH A BONUS FUCK HA HA HA" laugh, I know it well.

>>180679176
Knowing dorfs, they'll immortalize the burning goblins in their artwork.

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>have 30 recruits clad in copper armor
>get invasion of 100 gobbos
"well this is it I guess"
>mfw

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>>180680349
EVERYBODY IS THROWING UP

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>>180680657
THERE'S VOMIT LITERALLY EVERYWHERE

>>180681452
>vomit literally everywhere
Dwarf Fortress: Oh god, why is there so much vomit?

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>>180681452
You know what must be done.
PAINT THE WALLS WITH VOMIT
[spoiler}EAT THE VOMIT
SHOWER IN THE VOMIT
MORE VOMIT FOR THE VOMIT GOD

are there any good high fidelity tilesets for df?

>>180681452
just fucking let your dorfs into the sun regularly

SPLAT

>>180651935
I like your stuff anon

You'll have fun in the ss update, as I will too

If I abandon a fortress in the middle of a dragon attacking it will the dragon take up residence there or would I need to wait for it to kill everyone?

>>180654480
>>180654546
I dont even go to /rwg/, but I remember some people from that thread saying that that particular player's computer was pretty shit

>>180669167
I was in that thread

How do I kill my mayor? He's a fucking asshole. I would have tried it already if I could play Dwarf Fortress while in prison.

>>180687052
bomb

>>180687052
Give him his office and room deep in the caverns.

>>180682040
Gemset for graphical, and for ASCII I think there was a 64x64 version Bisasam floating around here a while back.

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