/arena/ - Arena FPS General

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I want Quake Champions to have guest characters from other IPs, but that would make the game even more broken and harder to "balance" than it already is.

>that face when no Gordon Freeman with his jump pack module as his active skill and having slightly increased resistances to environmental hazards as his passive
>my feel when no Xan Kriegor or Malcolm or Gorge or Brock with OP shit

>>180554943
yeah right they should add dragonborn to this game lmao))))00

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Wait, why the fug is Vore Tournament in the OP?

>>180555226
:^)

Does strike vector count as an arena "fps"?
What about that new Descent game? I hear the devs have been pushing it into an """"esport"""" despite the fans of the franchise wanting a nice and polished singleplayer experience

>>180553276
Reflex devs said they're adding moving brushes. Iirc. It was quite recent too so maybe next patch.
>>180553283
Why would you use pervious technology if it's bad technology? If a team of 2-3 people can out do a large studio why even bother with the old? It really makes no sense.

>>180555462
People talk about, zfps (fps with a large degree of vertical elements), arenafps (mainly pickups, some element of speed and a similar spawn situation seem to define the genre) and battle arenas (Tf2, Lawbreakers, Battlerite). Battle arenas are just games that are contexted by an arena. Mobas generally aren't included because their world extends into purchases and such.
Afps is generally what this general is about but i feel we should expand.
Zfps is more like a definition of a mechanic in these games.

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Wait a minute these aren't anything alike.

>>180556639
it's based on the quake ET redesign

>wickland
It's dead. But it's also 0.5€
Is it worth it? I could buy 10 copies and throw them at bums hoping they'd play with me.

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arenakino on sale for the low price of $1.25

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>>180555993
Exactly. No reason to ask me, I wouldn't know, but ZeniMax might.

>>180558649
>hoping they'd play with me
You better ask them if they would before you do it, the chances of them saying yes is kinda low (unless they're already into afps)

Fuck, didn't mean to send that image
I was going to ask for help with the error but I found a solution already

>>180560579
do you want to duel anon

>>180555993
Reflex is already dead. They should give up and find new jobs.
It's not their fault, but they should know when to quit.

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After the last patch the game works better I think.

>>180560678
>Toxikk has more players
damn

>>180560741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhEVXTK2WMk
This shit was really funny when it happened

>>180560970
Toxikk has more players joining a game, trying it for a few minutes and then leaving.

>>180560678
But how come; wasn't Reflex the game those guys at esreality wanted? I think Reflex is as pure as it gets when it comes to arena shooters in the current years, and no other game comes close yet.

>>180560628
>wasn't Reflex the game those guys at esreality wanted?
Haven't heard of this, when did this happen?
>I think Reflex is as pure as it gets when it comes to arena shooters in the current years
That's exactly the problem, it's too pure. For people like us, that's a good thing, but it's not good for building a bigger playerbase.

i still dont understand why they made QL paid for its not like they still work on it

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>linking cpm and not reflex
MOOODS

>>180564575
Notice how all the games linked are free

>>180564714
Reflex is like 15 dollars, go suck some guys dick for 10 minutes or something. It has active devs, matchmaking, graphics, easier accessibility, and in game map making.

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>inactive in quake
>quakefriends remove you
r-ree

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>>180565531
I've made new friends in QC!

>>180561115
Gauntlet is pretty fucking strong now. It was OP, then nerfed to be useless, now it's deadly in close combat too.

>>180564808
All that, but no playerbase

>>180565619
How long till my old friends add me back ;__;

>>180564808
deal with it nerd there's only free games in the OP

>>180566250
Wtf move to a first world country, australia for unskilled labor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJ2Iu8FQ4Y

>all these shit maps

Reminder not to forget our boards greatest embaressment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66UQWFeMdQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkQO1gxh4B0

Reminder that getting a kill at all is impressive in hl2dm apparently, rofl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcV5s0Jlam0

Supposedly action hl2 was based on this, but then they got an actual remake.

>he thinks quake has the highest skill strafe running

lol!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RurT0Q9Ikdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9SgyU23xEo

>>180567379
i was promised quake live nights 3 months ago
kys

>>180568429
first it was action quake 2, then action half-life, then the specialists

>>180569241
You know i've not been gabe ramsay this entire time. I am but a distant monitor

>>180569393
still a faget

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>ns2 compmod is DED

>>180570113
>gloom is dead
Someday we'll have an /arena/ gloom night

>>180570261
I know ns2 compmod was a buggy mess, but could we at least play ns1? Ns1 has strafe running on marines and shit, it's really broken but fun.

>>180570423
NS1 has neutered bhopping. Gloom is what you want.

>>180570656
you can actually mod ns2 to enable bunny hopping even if it isnt strafe running btw.

kinda like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yERibixxcEs

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>>180554561
Is Unreal/Reflex any good/not dead? How do they play compared to Quake Live?

Don't wanna throw money away again.

>>180571475
Reflex is just about as dead as both of those games, so if you can stand them then reflex should be fine.

>>180571475
Reflex is like CPMA and its semi dead but not warsow levels of dead.

>>180570856
Never understood why they removed bunny hopping when aliens are already OP. Gloom proves you can have fast marines and still be decently balanced.

>>180571856
>aliens op
maybe for shitters

Compmod marine winrate before nerfs was 85% in div 1

>>180572478
I didn't play NS2

>>180560741
looks like there's still a bit of delay? hard to tell when i'm not the one clicking, downloading the update nao

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Ok guys I have a question. Is Duke Nukem Advance an arena shooter?

>>180574412
Yes.

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>>180574481
groovy.

>>180576126
Screw it, we're all thinking about it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno

>>180574412
>>180576126
What would Douk's abilities be in QC?

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>>180578083
Passive
>Balls of Steel: Armor never drops below 25

Active
>Holoduke: Creates a Holoduke for X seconds to confuse opponents (plays like an AI, deals no damage, fucks up Duke's one liners)

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>>180578083
He would pop roids for a 40% Damage reduction and speedboost
his passive would hive him health for earning medals.

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https://bethesda.net/community/topic/65704/ask-us-anything-dev-answers-6-23

>>180578590
> Our immediate focus is on improving the performance, network code, and stability of the game and implementing our latest gameplay balances
hope

>>180578590
>considering ranked/unranked separation
great idea, let's divide the small playerbase as much as possible

>>180578590
Steam confirmed

>>180578590
> clutch mobility, active, and passive buffs in the works
> SNG to plasmagun function wise
woah what

>>180578590
>Can we get an official explanation on how hitboxes work?
>Hitboxes are lower-poly versions of the Champion’s actual model, not simple cylinder or box constructions. These low-poly hitboxes move and animate in sync with their characters, and most importantly are unaffected by vanity costumes and attachments. We have full control to increase or decrease their thickness individually per Champion as needed for balancing reasons. For the most part, what you see is what you get, and you can shoot between a Champion’s legs or under their arms, but if a character is too hard to hit we can fill in that area to increase their hit volume.
Why ID why that is fucking stupid, it works in a slower paced game but in quake everybody is zipping around the last thing I need is a shot passing through someones legs.

>>180579163
> steam users don't need to go through the bethesda launcher
good
putting your game behing multiple launchers is fucking stupid

>>180579237
they also said they were going to redo animations
hopefully to make people hold still instead of spazz around when taking a single step

>>180578463
it's time to kiss ass and chew bubblegum, and i'm all out of gum

>>180578463
> armor never drops below 25
so a permanent 66% damage resistance?
what the fuck are you smoking, that's triple health for a passive that you don't even need more pickups to get back to full
are you trying to make BJ 2.0

>>180578590
>Seriously what's up with the pots?
>AP: They will serve a particular purpose. We’ll hold on to that one for now.
Dude what, what pots?

Ohh yeah there are pots in blood covenant right?

>>180580150
in blood and ruins there are these pots which you can break by walking through. They use to have 5 AP em in the first beta now they are useless.

>>180579649
BALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLSBALLS

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>>180579237
>>180579414
just give everyone cylinder hitboxes ffs. Diabotical got it right in just making the hitboxes a sphere. No '''lean''' issues, no shooting through legs. You hit the circle on your screen, you get a hit.

>>180581242
why do all the 'we're totally going to revive arena shooters you guys' have nothing but robots?

>>180581776
Easier to animate

>>180581776
looks like brightskin keel

Is it just me or is slash too squishy? She gets dumpstered compared to mediums/tanks and doesn't seem to compare to anarki who goes fast as fuck without effort and is way harder to kill

She's a load of fun but I die a lot when I play her, i'm also far from the greatest crouchslider though; it's hard to do right while firing

>>180583345
She got buffed and used to be weaker

>>180567257
Damn, no reload timers?
That doesn't look balanced at all, in theory at least.
How is it in practice?

>>180583345
>i'm also far from the greatest crouchslider though; it's hard to do right while firing
you need to know when not to crouchslide, also slash needs to be balanced around very good crouchsliding because of it's a higher skill ceiling than normal movement

>pick galena on stutterbox/lockscreen
>do nothing but camp rail, nail gun and red armor with land mines
>level 3's keep walking into the landmines, 21/6 at the end

guess this game isn't complete trash

>>180587404
> camps quad room as galena
you are the trash
can't do anything without that constant 100 armor and monopoly over RG

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>>180587404

>tfw lobbing totems onto people in the middle of a firefight

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>>180588436
>maintaining item control is for noobs

hey there's this really fun game called overwatch, you should check it out!

Why do you all hate Overwatch so much? Its not trying to be the next Quake or whatever. Arena FPS was sadly dead before that game even came out.

Not saying you can't dislike a game, but do you all hate it just because it is easy to learn?

>>180589019
> literally camping one half of a room with sightlines to every corner of the map and slapping 60dmg landmines on the only other entrance to said room
good map and good control breh

>>180589493
you sit in spawn for a minute, find a bunch of fucks grouped up and hit Q to kill everything

>>180589493
it's the worst parts of LoL and tf2 combined
both games I've played to death

>>180589493
It's just mediocrity made manifest. The games industry is struggling to put out compelling, worthwhile content, and overwatch 100% embodies that.

>all the characters have the personality of a cardboard cutout
>every ability is either a "I win" button or get-out-of-jail-free card
>reinhardt's massive shield takes away about 90% of aim
>most abilities aren't difficult to use, and in general are unintuitive
>little to not interesting movement mechanics

the game in general is too complex to just play casually, but too skill capped to seriously have a go at. I got high masters in the last two seasons before I decided to play other games some more.

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>>180589493
not exactly quake but this should explain a lot

>>180591107
funny people post this about tf2 when they were filthy cocksuckers that defended removal of grenades, speed caps on bhops, and other shit like feigning death

>>180591384
removal of other shit*

>>180591107

you cant even really rocket jump as pharah either, you can only give your shift ability a little extra boost with a rocket

its sad

>>180589493
>Why do you all hate Overwatch so much?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vDhCnz3xqA

Because Overwatch went full fuckin retard and restricted 21:9 aspect ratio because "BUT COMPETITIVE ADVANTAJAGIZE ARENT FAIIIIRRRR."

Actual retard level arguments that anyone with half a fuckin brain can realize why 21:9 wont do shit to help someone play better in an FPS muhcless a slow ass hero FPS like Overtwatch.
Literally no pro player in ANY competitive Esports has ever used a 21:9 monitor. Not one. Not a single god damned pro player has used one, because it doesn't help them.
But you want a 240hz competitive advantage? GO FOR IT!
Literally every pro FPS And MOBA player has at least a 144hz display.

But no, it's the 21:9 that's "unfair." "because most people don't have them" Yeah 90% of the player base still uses 60hz displays, you dumb fucks, were's the manditory 60hz lock you assholes?

Blizzard went full fuckin retard.

Meanwhile we ask for 21:9 support in fuckin quake and they don't make excuses or make up bullshit. They just added it, they just made it so you can play from 4:3 to full blow fucking eyefinity if you wanted. They don't give a shit.

They know better than to pull retarded shit like Overwatch did.

Everyone can fuckin tell immediately why 144hz or 240hz monitor is a competitive advantage in FPS games, but OW doesnt restrict that?
Not only that, but their balance team is actually made up of Downies. I swear to god. The D.Va Nerfs and refusing to even address her issues. Fuck you blizzard.

Roadhog remaining BROKEN AS FUCK for 9 months, and they say he is ok.
Why the fuck does bastion even exist? Like he's not even a character whos strong, he's just retardedly designed.

Not to mention the whole "press q and win!" level of game mastery.

>>180591602
tl;dr

>>180591826
The developers are dumb/Shit's broken

>>180591602
even during the game's early development, they were unsure if giving options to turn down music would be fair.
apparently, turning music off grants you the unfair advantage of being able to hear other things better

>>180591826
tl;dr
>overwatch design is by idiots for idiots full of emotional and non-logical decisions
>balance is shit
>the metagame design around press Q to win mechanics where everyone just saves up their ults and uses them all-together is stupid and not-fun

>>180591826
Blizz went "BUT COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGERS" and restricted 21:9 like crybaby retards. But left the game frame uncapped, and say "that's fair."

Quake added it and none one gives a fuck, like blizzard should have done to Overwatch.

Also their balance team is afflicted with trisomy 21.

so what's the best arena shoota to play these days?

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>>180592032
>turning down the music is unfair

>>180592032

They almost didn't let you change the FoV with the same excuse.

>>180592667
Quake 2, Live, CPMA

>>180592667
Quake Champions.
At the end of the day it will be the only one with a real population during it's life cycle and most pros and migrating to it.
The cross over from other games will make it successful enough to expand out keep going.

>>180593045
The state of modern gaming

>>180593380
>>180593554
cool thanks for the update, whatever happened to the latest UT?

>>180596868
Its still in development and still in pre alpha.

>>180592667
Counterstrike: Global Offensive

>>180597698
It will never come out of pre-alpha.
>divided community
>devs more interested in developing other stuff that actually nets them profit than the money pit that is an arena fps
Whatever hype it had back when it was first announced is long gone, and even if they finish the development, Unreal Tournament will be dead on arrival.

>>180600516
They should just tell the UT99babs to fuck off and work on a balanced, competitive game.

>>180600516
>le actual graphics MOBA game
>actually nets them profit
I've never even heard of it anywhere outside of /v/ shilling and the paragon general is even deader than /arena/

Nyx should have black hair desu. Or like dark blue/midnight blue/navy blue hair. Her bright hair and eyebrows look terrible. And why are her eyelashes not blue?

Rip

the skin.

Bitterman when?
Sarge when?
Doom when?
Crash when?
Orbb when?
Mynx when?
Hunter when?
Xaero when?
Commander Keen when? In before BJ Blaskowicz is Commander Keen - no he is not

I installed quake 2 quad damage, and it has a tiny portion of the key bindings that quake2forbabbies has, what gives?

>>180578083
Passive should be jetpack with limited recharging fuel, would be really fun with Quake movement.

Do people still play vanilla half life/opposing force/blue shift/deathmatch classic/half life 2 multiplayer?

>>180606440
Isn't Keen BJ's grandson?

>>180554943
Having quake champions be like a crossover fighter but for FPS would be great. Jump pack on freeman should be passive, too boring for an active. Gravity gun might be a cool active, tossing someone into the air and air shotting them with a rail, or just shooting someone off a cliff.

>>180558653
master server is back up too, server browser works again

>>180606872
the quake2forbabbies package comes with Q2PRO which is a client that adds lots of extra functionality. You can still bind keys through console though.

>>180603757
No she should have blue hair because it's cute as fuck.

>>180606440
>Hunter when?
She better be the next champ.

>>180610031
The kind of blue her hair has is ugly. Should be a dark shade of blue desu.

CRUSH THEM

>>180612297
HAVE A TASTE

Will Nine Inch Nails (the band) make tracks for Quake Champions?

Is pubg and its clones /arena/?

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>>180615117
no

oc people, we need an /arena/ edit of this for people like that

>>180615117
>weapon pickups
>everyone is on equal footing at the start of the game
>takes place in a big arena
hmm...

Is Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast /arena/?

>>180615117
no
>no bunny hopping, no good indoor arena maps, no good 1v1 maps, random ass RNG shit everywhere, vehicles etc.

It's more like one of the new breed of FPS games coming out like ark survival and other survival games like rust with shitty unrefined movement, strafing, jumping, shooting and bad weapon balance with RNG shit everywhere, in arena games the weapons are imbalanced too but they're thoughtfully placed around the maps

>>180616849
absolutely

Is Star Wars Republic Commando /arena/?

>>180617880
I think it's whatever type of shooter call of duty is, but it's own flavor, like quake vs UT

>>180617880
Sev champion when?

>>180618321
But republic commando multiplayer has no loadouts and has weapon pickups all over the map instead. In fact, it seems like it's a clone of halo combat evolved multiplayer - is halo /arena/?

Is Asura's Wrath /arena/?

>>180583345
>is slash too squishy?
Fatty Slash art when?

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>>180610412
As someone who loves dark haired females, I still prefer Nyx with her Neon blue hair

Manga Major skin for Nyx when?

>>180616065
Not sure if we can do anything with that image, we need something /arena/ related, but I can't find something suitable

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>>180558653

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>>180621171

How do I play DOOM without dosbox or whatever the fuck Steam gave me?

I don't want edgy call of duty graphics but I wouldn't mind online play

>>180621565
You use a source port. Chocolate Doom for SP pursim, GZDoom for modern SP, prBoom+ for something im between, Zandronum for modern MP, and I think people still play ZDaemon online as well. The SP ports won't have people playing multiplayer.

>>180621728
so do I just drag it/rename into the steam folder like I had to do with quakespasm?

>>180621831
usually people just paste the .wad files over to the source port folder
i don't know how many people really duel in zandronum as well and to be honest its kind of shit compared to quake

On the note of old games, anywhere I can download Multiplayer Map Paks for Q2?

>>180622589
tastyspleen has pretty much every map, mod, player model, and texture pack you would want

>>180622621
I hit that shit after maybe an hour of practicing the quakelive acceleration tutorial.

The elevate tutorial on the other hand; I'm still stuck. Something is wrong with how I aim and time my rocket jumps at the end.

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>>180618769
halo, halo 2, halo 3, and halo 5 are all arena shooters due to "equal starts" and picking up weapons and powerups on the map. so yes, republic commando is most likely arena as well. don't talk about halo in here though

>>180622119
doom2 duel is just constant mind games, tactical camping, and perfect weapon use pertaining to your positioning. ssg is used the most for sure, but those who use chain and rockets in the right situations are definitely rewarded. quake technically has more depth but doom2's style makes it worth playing anyway imo. doom was the OG arena shooter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e-60_P0_w0

watching this happen live was sick. the maps used here are the best ones in doom2 duel, although the official quakecon.wad was never released so you'd have to use a different pack instead but i forgot the name. odamex is the best duel port but I think it's inactive except for the typical IRC planned matches, zdaemon may have more players

>>180622702
Where do I put them after I download them, I downloaded the Q2pro from the OP

>>180622932
inside baseq2/maps/

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>>180622975
Thanks Anon!

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>>180616065
here i come to save the day
if you find the quality to be unsatisfactory, you're cordially invited to eat my pussy

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When will id add this guy in

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>>180625362
much obliged anon.

>>180627023

Is it bad that I actually kind of want them to add the Skyrim cover art viking as a champion who dragon shouts at people?

>>180627023
not before they add in The Lone Wanderer!

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>>180627827
Todd pls

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where did it all go so wrong

>>180628892
people r asleep

>>180628892
Game's not on steam yet. Chill the fuck out.

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>>180628892
Listen bud, asking your teammates to simply understand 1 flag ctf/king of the hill where you can throw the flag is too god damn much alright. And Duel oldfags hate and newfags suck at.

>>180607612
Yeah. Commander Keen's actual name is Billy Blazes, which is a direct shortening of William (Bill) Blazcowicz, the grandfather he was named after.

>>180629214
aren't sacrifice and duel the focus for the world championship?

Which one will get released first? Unreal Tounament or Diabolical?
Which will be stillborn?I'm guessing both will be dead on arrival

Why did Quake Live die? I remember back then there was even a queue just to be able to play the game, and I got an "achievement" for it.

>>180630223
Cause id decided to move an already under-populated game to steam and make people pay for it. Two of the dudes who taught me how to play Quake quit playing and both were hardcore Quake-Dads. AFPS has been on the decline for a while now, every noob who joined up RQ'd after a few rounds on CA. That being said if one of the easiest (and arguably most fun) to play modes makes newbies rage there isn't much hope overall now is there?

Is Toxikk a good game

>>180613874
Go to bed, Coldsteel

>steam confirmed
thank god, I'm not even a steamfag myself but that's good news

>>180632180
It makes sense for id to use existing Valve/Steam distribution infrastructure at the cost of getting less profits rather than meme it up and develop their own distribution/downloader/installer/community/profile manager application

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>>180630693
I remember people bitching up a storm about the move to steam but the playerbase doesn't seem much smaller to me than it was pre-steam, i don't exactly remember but it feels pretty much the same

why isn't rapha streaming anymore? too busy with OW?

>>180632813
Maybe he's busy with his bible studies or some other dumb religious shit
*tips menorah*

>>180625362
perfect thanks!

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>>180630043
Diabolical.
And it clearly won't be doa since a couple thousand already bought it on the Kickstarter.
UT has nothing behind it. Not even epic games. They tried to outsource it to the community to have them work for free. Silly idea.

What does everyone think of Lawbreakers? What we've seen of it anyway.

>>180637229
>Lawbreakers
Is that game even /arena/
It has loadouts and no weapon/armor/health/powerup pickups scattered across the maps it seems

>>180637505
It has health stations on the map and the control elements are about positioning. It's not like the cluster up and move in games of OW. I say it qualifies but I can see why people think it doesn't.
Tribes doesn't really qualify by the same measure for instance.

Is Strike Vector /arena/?

Is Heavy Gear Assault /arena/?
Is Mechwarrior Online /arena/?
Is Hawken /arena/?

is tribes /arena/?
is overwatch /arena/?
is paladins /arena/?
is battleborn /arena/?

Is Soldat /arena/?

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>>180637505
>>180637962
>>180639890
>>180640005
>>180640238

Is HL2DM /arena/?

Is Postal 2 /arena/?
Is Aliens vs Predator /arena/?

>>180632813
Probably doesn't want to give away strats and show gameplay before the championship.

Same reason old quake pros played on smurfs and different accounts for scrims. To keep their shit away from other players who might learn to beat their gameplay.