/fg/ - Falcom General #4

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Calvard when?

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I spent a lot of my time riding buses to get to places and completely forgot where some of those monster chests with high level warning labels were.

>>180531527
I don't see a problem with Trails taking inspiration from one of the GOAT JRPGs

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Get comfy, it's going to be a long wait for localized CSIII.

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>>180532646
It's already been blatant, I wouldn't be shocked if they went all the way with it

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Tita!

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Remember to thank KeA for bringing you to the timeline where you can play her games, EOPs!

>>180532590
Outside of Tangram gate and straight to the left - level 30 chest
West Crossbell highway 2nd screen, down and to the right - level 35 chest
Right below the doll factory bus stop - level 35 chest
Straight to the left on the road that forks to the Stargaze tower - level 25 chest

Can't remember if there were more though.

I'm on chapter 4 in Zero. What's a good place to farm U-Material? I need 23 more to upgrade everyone's weapons.

>>180533359
Temple of Stargaze for easy u materials as well as the weakshit abyss worms in the Moon ruins.

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>>180532413
I want to eat-a KeA!

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>CS3 is released
>it's revealed that Osbourne and Arianrhod held a coveted affair to create the perfect LN baby to save Erenbonia

how would you react?

>>180533842
Shrug and keep playing

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What's this?

Random status/parameter down quartz?

Another question, how do I not make randy useless as shit, he just seems so outclassed, Lloyd is busting out big boy numbers all the time with his self buff and randy just sort of, is there.

Ao chapter 4 for reference

>>180533940
I don't recognize that quartz, is it from Sky Evo?

>>180534423
Ao.

>>180534436
Dunno about Ao but it looks like the Bind Spirit quartz from Akatsuki that at the start of the battle lowers the enemies stats randomly.

>>180534063
He's nice for the time delay but outside of that, yeah, he can be pretty meh in relevant fights. At least his ATS isn't completely hopeless.

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WOOOOOOOOOOW

Never trusted any portraited NPC again.

>>180535807
Congrats anon, you're at the part in Ao where the hype goes through the roof
It doesn't stop

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Oh. my god.

You are the yes no one who will execute you it's me

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>>180536152
>Arios' response when Lloyd asks if he was Guy's killer

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What a pain in the dick holy shit.

>Missed rozenberg side quest in Zero for a mere 1 fucking point
>This is my 2nd playthrough and failed both times
Fuck this DP system.

>>180533940
Enemies that you attack on the field (outside battle) will have their movement slowed down.

>>180538629
thanks

>>180537303
That was probably the most frustrating battle for me because his gale dispels Tio's max barrier.

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What a fucking man.

God damn.

>>180535807
Not like you can, since starting from Cold steel, they use the 3D models for "portraits". And even randos have them.

>>180541029
I really, really, really like this image.

>>180541738
Shut the fuck up Dino.

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>>180541738
Here, have another one

>>180541572
DON'T TRUST ANYONE

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man, the bosses on 3rd are so annoying, SC's were more balanced and fun

>Either Altina will become the winner
>Or Alisa will be the winner and Rean/Alisa take in Altina to be part of their family

>>180542875
>Or they leave it ambiguous like they did with Lloyd

>>180543034
Doing that way would probably btfo every single party at once while keeping them all happy. Until when Rean has to bring someone with him in Calvard/crossovers.

>>180543034
>ywn see Tio move on to a happy relationship with someone else
Harems were a mistake.

>>180532646
Xenogears sucked, though. It's just a shitty plot dump.

>>180533940
Just use this guide for quartz (and other stuff, too. It's saved my EOP ass on numerous occasions):
https://www.gamefaqs.com/vita/722590-eiyuu-densetsu-ao-no-kiseki-evolution/faqs/74205?page=11

>>180543321
It's not on there anon

Would Sara go for Osborne if he actually showed interest or would she go tsun on him?

>>180543440
You mean Sara would have a go at killing Osbourne if she could get away with it.

>>180543440
Osborne wouldn't stoop to screwing a Bracer.

>>180543286
>Josette and Kloe are free to pursue their own happiness
>Anelace, Tita, Schera and Ries never wanted Joshua's dick
>Adopted Renne
>In a loving monogamous relationship with Estelle
We need more Joshuas as our MCs

>>180543286
To be fair, she's only 16 years old in CS3. She has plenty of time.

Tio > Rixia > Elie > Randy >> KeA

>>180544071
She'll be stuck wanting Roido-san until he rejects her for Elie in the final Kiseki game.

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>>180544142
Here's the objectively correct list

Tio = Elie = Randy = Kea > Rixia

Rixia only because i barely saw any development on her, since i only played Zero.

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>>180544257
Good post.

>game crashes on trying to play blackjack and poker

>>180544941
If you're playing on PPSSPP then try saving and reloading (real save, not save state), that fixed the issue for several people. You could also try to bypass the issue in the japanese version, save and then switch back to the english one.

>>180544941
My PPSSPP works fine for those. The only crash i saw so far on my end, is trying to play the slots, everything else works fine.

>>180545170
I'm using the Vita emulator, I'm that same guy who posted about his cookbook crashing on the 1st page but not the second.
The latter is a good idea, I'll try that.

Or maybe I'll just get sick of this shit and switch to PPSSPP already.

>>180533079
Actually the translation made it harder to understand some scenes for me.

>180531438
Hovered the spoiler by mistake, damn. It's always like this. I just can't stop lurking threads when I'm trying to finish a game. Is this autism?

>>180546647
could be worse, you could've done that with >>180535807

don't

>>180546419
I've been cross-checking some scenes from the Zero spreadsheet and it's been pretty helpful. If you know moon in some capacity you can also look up the evo playthroughs from youtube for voiced lines.

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>>180547020
>Not just patching the PSP version with Evo voices to play along the translation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIuZGeDUU4U

>>180547094
How?

>>180547094
I actually prefer having no voices since I can read faster that way. And anyway, last time I checked getting that to work seemed like a pain and no one here has managed to do it, right?

>>180546839
Is that related to someone from IBC? The wiki already spoiled that for me.

>>180547289
Yeah i just posted it to be cheeky. It seems like the guy who made the translation also responded on the video, and said that it may require even further messing around if the translation messes with the lines.
Like Grace's lines in the race, are supposed to be way faster than normal so she can go through the text fast, but in the translation i noticed the text moved normally, so some lines were cut short.

>>180547421
yeah
shame, that's probably a fun one if you don't see it coming
I knew before playing it too, but I wished I didn't afterward

>>180547446
Oh yeah, that does sound like a problem indeed. I took a look at the instructions myself earlier out of interest but I have no prior experience in this sort of thing so most of it just went over my head. Maybe one day someone can figure it out and make it work with the patched version for those who'd like it.

>>180547693
Pretty much the only time I wasn't spoiled is at FC's epilogue because nobody ever mentioned Weissman with his fake name around here.

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I'm pretty sure people throw his face around quite liberally

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>>180547094
> Not just learning moon and finish everything long time ago.

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>>180548667
>Not just being omnipotent and knowing every there there is to know

>tfw get spoiled on who killed Guy
Fuck, is there even a good guy in Crossbell outside of SSS?

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>>180548727
This man is your friend, he fights for FREEDOM AND JUSTICE

Where can i find the 10k Furniture item for Elie? I found the other 3, but i'm not sure where her's is.

>>180550257
St. Ursula's inn

>>180550680
Thanks.

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I love how they all banter at Lloyd when he makes any remarks about having fun with other girls.

>>180551107
Elie's jealous as fuck the whole game.

>>180548727
No, that's why Osborne had to come in and clean up the mess.

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>>180551449
you can leave any time, imperial apologist

>>180551571
Tio's cat ear antennae look stupid! STUPID!

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>>180551571
>Defending Crossbelllians
Reminder that Crossbell allowed this to happen. Osborne is the chemo that corrupted city needs.

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Well shit, Lloyd is going to jail it seems.
Also Llya is too good for this world.

>>180551790
>implying Cedric isn't on same stuff as of now

>>180551790
Osbourne has his own dubious little girl companions.

>CS prologue flash-forward
>Everyone is using their full uniform jersey
>Finally got that point in the story
>Everyone is in their summer uniform
Huh? What the fuck, Falcom?

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It's always weird when NPCs point out shit like this.

>>180552515
Quite similar to Zero's flash forward in a way, don't you think? Not related to uniforms, but how Only Lloyd, Randy, Tio and Elie are there, and when you reach that point, Joshua and Estelle are with you.
Plus some faces that weren't there in the flash forward. I think it's not a mistake, it's on purpose.

>>180551790
And who was it that was perfectly fine with Hartmann again?

>>180552240
They're gifts for his son, and besides that they're treated well.

>>180552515
Does that imply the ILF DID fire the gun?
Because without prior knowledge of the series, that scene looked like a lame build-up.

>>180553789
Meant for >>180552802

>>180553789
Probably. Everything to make SSS safe. She such a good kid.

>>180553789
It did actually fire before getting completely fucking annihilated. The aion in Crossbell blocked one shot and then sent the other one through a portal.

>>180554096
I think you got the timeline a bit wrong. Yametekuree was at trade conference.

>>180554227
Man, that was so annoying in Akiba Strip where CS1's opening was playing with Rean going "YAMETEKUREEE!" over and over again anytime you pass by an area or two.

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Wait a minute...

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>>180552031
>Llya
>Lly
>Ll
>L

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Well, i guess it was kinda obvious.

>>180556050
Kilika should hurry up and marry Zine already, she is already a cake in the start of Zero and CS3 takes place 3 years after that.

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>>180551790
>ywn go to paradise

>>180556351
>not even Gnosis can tame that smug

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>>180556351
That's fine by me.

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>>180556351
Do you think she enjoyed it?

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By the way, was pic related actually accurate considering the events in Ao?

Did Tokyo Xanadu also have the "nice guy/gag character is an antagonist" like every Trails ever including Nayuta?

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>>180556269
>Zine

>>180556351
>wanting to go to Paradise

>>180556851
>this entire post

>>180556851
I'd say so, she enjoyed it so much she created alternate personalities so she could enjoy serving old men from multiple perspectives.

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>The stereo actually plays songs from the game if i check it

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>>180556351
W-what's paradise?

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>>180558013
Don't ask.

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I LOVE ESTELLE!

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>Sally got a portait

Huh.

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Is there anyone who can even remotely contain our boy Mayor Dalmore?

- embezzles money for fucking years and gets away with it scot free because of 'muh mind control'
- loyal servants, butlers and chamberlains
- kind and compassionate towards the innocent orphans, offering them his own private resort
- a financial genius who travels the globe making business deals
- loving and caring pet owner, raised them all by himself
- pureblooded noble and scion of the auld order
- always eager to help bracers with their problems with the punks in town
- always eager to feed bracers to his pets
- has secret controls to the ruan bridge in his house which he uses to fuck with the retarded dock workers
- allowed himself to be captured in order to expose the crimes of superior nippon steel

>>180559558
>He's a "pureblooded noble"
>In a country that gives zero fucks about class or nobility
JUST

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>The White Dragon of Heiyue, Zhao Li

If he doesn't have a full back tattoo of a dragon I'm going to be disappointed.

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>>180557039
Yes.
That sweet lovely caring loyal childhood friend of yours is actually the final boss.

>>180561051
Can you waifu her?

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My wife Estelle and her boyfriend are so cute!

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>>180561204
As you can see from the screenshot above, yes. That's one of her bond events.

>>180561350
I liked Cold Steel but TX doesn't look very good, is it good?

>>180561350
T-towa?

>>180561350
Is this NTR?

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>chomp
WEW LAD

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What is this strange man holding in his hands /fg/?

>>180561797
It gets better

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>>180561635
ToCS, but ARPG combat, with chuuni-LN quality story & writing.

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This is freaking cute.

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>>180561731
That's Towa-sensei to you.

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He's way too much of a brat for how smart he is.

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>>180561797
>>180562137
>This fully voiced/animated
THANK YOU FALCOM
Also the native ppsspp capture is terrible

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>>180562606

>>180561350
So what's the deal with Towa, why do they keep pushing her so much?

>>180562809
Because she's going to be the canon love interest!

>>180562809
She's Kondom's Lightning, that's why her bonding scenes are platonic.

>>180562892
I thought that was Altina... but thinking about it, it works. Plus Towa is better than Alisa. I guess CS3 will be about Rean and Towa's married life as teachers.

>>180562809
She's Kondo's (Falcom's CEO) waifu. Expect her to get a lot of cameo here and there, but you won't be able to romance her as Kondo won't let the players touch her.

>>180562981
>they solve the main plot in the first hour
>the next 50 hours is pure slice of life

>>180562981
>I guess CS3 will be about Rean and Towa's married life as teachers.
I want to see Alisa and Alisafags btfo.

>>180562964
>>180563000
I kind of felt cheated for that in CS2, wasted my first playthrough on her for nothing.

>>180563126
A lot of people fell for it too, anon.
She's there in ToCS to NTR the players away from all the Class VII girls.

>>180563098
>>180563046
As long as the plot was about Rean and his students doing Bracer stuff and talking to people, I would be fine with it.

>>180563126
I felt something similar after spending my bonding time with Alfin. Although at least she got some romantic undertones, I feel for Towafags because that final event was shit.

>>180563340
I don't feel bad for towashitters at all.

They specifically went after a completely irrelevant, shitty character just because she was a cute little girl with a squeaky anime voice. She has no relevance to the plot, accomplishes nothing as a character, and is a blatant mary sue at that. No sympathy from me. Go waifu one of the real girls.

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>>180563643
I dont think Towa is my favorite girl, but i did enjoy her for the fact that she wasn't in class 7, going for someone who wasn't in the class just felt right for me

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>>180563262
>>180563126

>>180557868
neat

>>180563643
Can't blame Towafags. The quality of the girls in Class VII is really low when compared to previous Trails games.

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>>180563340
>Alfin
My man.

XSeed's blog post about Zwei 2:

http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/162167486725/zwei-the-ilvard-insurrection-localization-blog

tl;dr
>game is on its final stretch before the release
>we'll be getting more info in the upcoming weeks
>the first game won't be included (iirc some people thought it might have been secretly bundled with this one or something)

Also detailed gameplay, story and character info.

>>180563643

Ironically despite all that Towa still gets more time with Rean than any of the other girls, since they all have other life things to do, while Towa ends up joining him at Thor's 2.

Just had Elie wake me up in the morning of the 4th day. I guess that means she's the top ranking person in my group in terms of points?

Sorry, but if I was Falcom, and I could make my own waifu to put inside a game, then she wouldn't be a brunette. She would be a qt blonde with twintails.

>>180563340
At least Alfin probably will get a romance route in the new game. Towa will just be a waste of time.

>>180565334
Alisa is pretty shit though.

>>180565710
That's a personality issue. This is a make-your-own-waifu situation so mine would be Alisa without the tsundere crap.

Actually, a better way to put it is to say that she would be Estelle with blonde hair. Now THAT is what I want.

>>180565786
>not saying you want kiseki Mafuyu
Come on.

Why does everyone in Trails with silver hair die?

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>>180566190
Dont make me worry of Schera

And im pretty sure Trails hates Moms over anything else

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>>180566190
Why does every single bespectacled character that doesn't join in your party suspicious as shit?

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I hope XSeed selects a different text font for CS3. The japanese text looks smooth, yet the localized editions of CS1+2 looks like clunky garbage

>>180566350
Jill is cool.

>>180564916
That's right

>>180566172
Anon, I'm not really a weeb. I just love to play JRPGs. So I don't really know what this kiseki Mafuyu thing is.

I'm sure she's cute, though.

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:3

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Why isn't anyone asking "where's Alisa"?

>>180566778
SC Estelle art is best Estelle art. She looks silly in 3rd

>>180566778
I love it. <3 MARRY ME, BIMBO ESTELLE!

>>180566850
They aren't because we already saw a picture of her early on.

>>180566850
She's been confirmed in months ago.

>>180566939
Only if she can keep her boyfriend/step brother

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>>180566889
It's because her eyes are too wide which gives her a slightly crazed expression. It's so easily fixable too.

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>>180566850
No one likes Alisa, even if she dresses lewdly by being the only one to wear a short as fuck skirt in the class.

>Twitter image
>large
Try orig next time

>>180566850
I hope in CS3 whenever she's not in a scene everyone asks "Where's Alisa"

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>>180567431
A-are you trying to cuckold me? Because I might like it.

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>>180567447
>slightly crazed expression
All that beating people up really got to her head.

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>>180562118
You tell me

>>180568035
That can't be the same man, theres no disguise that can achieve so much. Next you'll tell me he's holding some form of chalice.

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I feel angry at this dude for ignoring his cute grand daughter so hard.

>>180568472
>water boat
dumb smelly crossbell scum inferior to glorious liberl orbalship people

>>180568472
I'm on that boat right now, hopefully this whole chapter isn't nothing but slice of life stuff. That would annoy me.

>>180568472
I think it's funny how he hates everything so shamelessly but yeah, too bad about the kid.

first time I play Trails in the Sky

that Penguin King was a bitch to kill on Hard

>>180532736
OH SHI

>>180568796
You mean Ao after chapter 2? If so yeah, it's an intermission chapter, where fun things are fun. It's pretty nice.

>>180535807
Evil gets my dick going.

>>180569340
So I can skip everything and not miss anything relevant? or no?

I think what I miss most from tits 1 and 2 in third is the intermissions. The airship scenes in SC were top tier comfy and the perspective changes were always really well implemented.

>>180541902
I have no idea what is going on any more.

>>180542403
TT bosses usually have 1 BS ability, while most SC bosses for multiple BS abilities. I am having an easier time with TT on hard than SC on normal honestly, might just be since I so used to the battle system now after 3 games.

>>180569465
Why the hell would you skip out on the fun interactions?

>>180569974
Because I don't speak nip and Ithis spreadsheet is not an official translation, so the character interactions mean nothing to me. If this was an Xseed localization then it would be one thing, but reading through all the dialogue in this case is just a waste if it has nothing to do with the story

>>180556996
Joshua has a warped perspective when it comes to anything concerning Weissmann, so I highly doubt it.

Plus his gear and levels are shit again.

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>>180570063
>Reading the spreadsheet to play the main story
>"Don't want to check the interactions because it's not official translations"

Are you fucking ok? Just read the dialogue from the person of your choice for the segments.

>>180570509
Regardless, it's a pretty lame and pointless chapter. 100% pure filler.

Will /fg/ kill itself with shitposting if toxyo xanadu outsells Ys VIII?

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Left or right?

Also when did falcom general become a thing

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>>180571792
There was too much going on to keep making stable threads on /v/

>>180556269
Zin didn't seem too keen on her during their Door in 3rd. Almost scared of it, in fact.

>>180571091
In the grand scheme of things? Sure. But part of the charm of the series are the fun interactions for me. I mean, it's a text heavy game. Seeing some SOL moments and not just 24/7 serious mode is nice.

>>180571792
The way I see it, at least the tumblr art is so ugly it'll stay forever contained in that dump and I'll never have to see it unless people drag it out on purpose.

>>180571894
>There was too much going on
Just say it how it is, the shitposting got completely out of hand. At least it's calmer here.

>>180572289
Not when you're reading an amateur translation that doesn't get the characters personalities across as they were meant to.

Like I said, if this was an xseed localization it would be different. But right not this is just wasting my time.

>>180571091
Pay attention to a few things though. The fortune teller lady may be someone you already know about, if you pay attention. Plus one of the rooms in this resort is going to be fairly important later, not to mention more cute KeA moments.

>>180572606
You might as well stop playing then.

>>180572735
Fucking kill yourself retard.

I'm not going to stop playing just because of one pointless filler chapter.

>>180572496
>Just say it how it is, the shitposting got completely out of hand. At least it's calmer here.
That was part of the whole "making stable threads" part. The too much going on part is weekly CS3 news and Crossbell being roughly TL'd

>>180572764
Wow rude. Feel free to take a month or two then before playing any more, you are obviously burned out.

>>180572901
I'm not burned out at all, FUCKING DUMBASS.

Why are you incapable of wrapping your head around this simple concept?

Oh boy, its the troll from yesterday.

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>>180572953
Just so you know, that anon is not the same one who told you to check the chapter anyways.
But i have to agree with him, you're kind of a dumbass. If you're worried about character consistency on a filler chapter, and not for the entirety of main plot, then you may be a tad crazy.

>>180573134
>If you're worried about character consistency on a filler chapter, and not for the entirety of main plot, then you may be a tad crazy.
Uh, no, not at all. The main plot is the same regardless of whether or not the character interactions have been prettied up. I don't see why retards like you can't comprehend this simple fucking concept.

Now I'm pissed off because of dumbasses like you more than I am about the filler chapter. I don't see why they can't just let us skip all this bullshit.

>>180573253
Quit getting mad about videogames anon.

Whose dumbass idea was it to put in AN ENTIRE CHAPTER OF FILLER to begin with?

>>180573465
Mine

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Kanon is so pure, I kinda feel bad for him but at the same time he's so happy to keep the place clean 24/7 that it's heartwarming.

>>180573428
He did the exact same thing yesterday when someone said they weren't a fan of the CS setting, not that it was a shit game or the worst trails or anything remotely controversial, just that they couldn't get into the setting.

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>>180573465
You may want to slowly kill yourself with the amount of unneeded anger you're having there. Lots of people love fun times especially to see more of their favorite characters. If you're not up for it, just complete the quests and hold down X to make it go faster. It shouldn't take that long, although your autism may end up killing you.

>>180573465
Dumb Reanfag

>>180573718
>You may want to slowly kill yourself
I don't think he has a choice, the aneurysm he'll be building up from the anger will do it for him

>>180573560
That kid is a freaking saint.

>>180573718
>to see more of their favorite characters
These aren't the real characters, they're just an amateur translation, you're such a fucking retard for being unable to understand this simple concept. Why am I surrounded by retards

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>>180574284

>>180574284
If you hate the amount of retards here why don't you leave, after all we're clearly all too stupid to have a meaningful discussion with you.

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>>180574284
>I am completely incapable to wrap my head around the fact that it's easy to understand the characters personalities despite it not being an official translation

You may actually be autistic. I'm playing the rough patch of zero, and i completely get each of the character's personalities, without Xseed's touch.

>>180574392
>>180574462
Don't reply to it.

>>180574462
>I enjoy eating shit
This is you right now.

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Same baiter, different bait

>>180574713
Opposite strategy too, last time it was "STOP DISLIKING THING" now its "STOP LIKING THING"

I genuinely hope its bait and not low functioning autist

>>180574628
You're the only shiteater here, you're playing a story heavy game and you skip through the story? Why are you even playing the game then?

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The hell's the problem with these two?

>>180574952
>you're playing a story heavy game and you skip through the story?
How the fuck is a filler chapter about a stupid vacation at a beach "skipping through the story"? God you're fucking dumb

>>180573465

It's ME anon. I was me all along Anon!

Reminder that they could have left this entire chapter out of the game entirely and nothing would have been missing at all.

it's funny how nipfags say Cold Steel is "full of filler" while completely ignoring the fact that Ao has AN ENTIRE CHAPTER that is nothing but pointless time-wasting fluff

>>180575004
Chill out Gary, jeez.

>>180575183
Oh, it's the dumb reanposter. Your games are shit friendo

>>180575183
Anon, go seek a doctor about your anger problems. The chapter is not even that big.

I hate how a game in a series renowned for its overly long prologues, excessive amounts of dialogue and large sections where the main plot barely moves has a slice of life chapter. I mean what were they thinking in spending a small chapter developing characters and world building in a series where we have come to expect that. What a bunch of retards, am I right?

>>180575183
The entirety of Cold Steel has been filler so far desu

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>>180575183
To be fair Filler with developed characters beats filler with barely any developed characters.

>>180575380
>The entirety of Cold Steel has been filler so far desu
Only if you're a retard who is incapable of recognizing foreshadowing, plot development, and characterization

>>180575380
Don't you understand REAN COLDSTEEL is the best trails game!

>>180575183
>how nipfags say Cold Steel is "full of filler"
Because it is, you could skip everything but the infernal palace and you'd be fine for III.
>>180575536
heh

thanks god it is not trail only

>>180575476
>Only if you're a retard who is incapable of recognizing foreshadowing, plot development, and characterization
The characterization is boring as shit as the foreshadowing is way overused. It takes 40 hours for anything exciting to happen. Before that, it's nothing but lowkey terrorist activity and high school antics - both of which aren't particularly entertaining.

>>180571543
i mean it did in japan

>>180575758
>high school antics
totally overblown by haters who can't be objective. The vast majority of the game is spent on field studies around the country or in the dungeon of the old schoolhouse.

>>180575904
OBJECTIVE

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DID YOU BREATHE THE SAME AIR AS MY DAUGHTER

>>180575904
You got btfo last thread mate, the school setting overpowers the story and degrades the entire experience.

>>180576015
>the school setting overpowers the story and degrades the entire experience.
LMAO No. Not even close holy shit.

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>>180576015
If CS2 did anything right, it cut down the amount of time I had to spend between each chapter doing Towa's busywork and investigating the damn schoolhouse.

>>180576015
nuh uh he totally and utterly btfo the unobjective haters who just hate it because they're nipfag retards and it can't possibly be that LN cliches aren't that appealing to a lot of trails fans. we are all just too retarded and need to kill ourselves because of how objectively correct he is.

>>180576043
lol yes, sorry bro

>>180576171
Nice try, but nowhere did I say anything about me being objectively right. I said that the nipfag haters are incapable of being objective when it comes to talking about Cold Steel. It's the same way they are incapable of being objective when they talk about Crossbell. Objectively, there are a lot of problems in Crossbell that you folks tend to completely dismiss, even while simultaneously criticizing them in Cold Steel. That's a fact.

>>180576351
Not really, the difference between the two is that Crossbell actually has good characters and a good plot so any of the missteps can be excused. If Cold Steel was any good then the same would apply.

>>180576614
Cold Steel characters are fine. The plot is fine. Again, you're just a hater. You can't look at things objectively because you've already decided you hated it.

There's a reason why it was well-received on 4chan when it came out in english.

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>>180576776
Not him but I don't hate Cold Steel at all, I just find it extremely unremarkable so far aside from a handful of elements.

>>180575998
Maybe.

>>180571792
I think they may just do shit like this, so that if someone complains about it, they can just go "you just don't like it because you're racist" or some shit.

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I WANT TO IMPREGNATE ELIE

>>180576776
?? Most trail fan recognized it as a massive step down but it was shiny and new. Now that we are out of the honeymoon phase it's getting seen for what it is.

>>180577667
You say this, but it's simply not the case. Stop trying to speak for "most trails fans"

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>>180577503
Crossbell police. I am taking custody of Elie.

Is there anything more irritating than retards who think they can speak for an entire fanbase? Retards who constantly feel the need to project their own thoughts and opinions onto an entire fanbase?

>>180577938
Yes, you.

>>180577938
Sure, people who are in denial about their favorite game being below average.

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>>180577910
>>180577503
>Elie has the most perfect long hair
>Even has an adorable big poofy ribbon
>Don't adore her just yet
Hmmm

>>180577989
Maybe if you're the kind of retard I was talking about, and if you don't like being called out on your bullshit.

let's make a deal. You stop trying to project your own opinions of cold steel onto the entire Trails fanbase, and I'll stop calling you out on your bullshit. Sound good?

>>180578094
Cold Steel isn't even my favorite game you stupid fucking retard. I prefer the sky games. But unlike you I'm capable of being objective, and what I see is a handful of retards pretending their opinion is shared by an entire fanbase. It's not.

Kirsten pls do your job instead of shitposting.

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>>180578107
The only deal I will accept is you going outside and getting anger management classes. Also you purchasing a thesaurus.

>>180578160
>It's a reanfag pretends episode
Nice try, but I'm onto you!

>>180578245
>Also you purchasing a thesaurus.
I'm not an idiot who needs a thesaurus in order to try to sound smart on 4chan, so no thanks I'll pass.

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Actually, what did everyone here enjoy with Cold Steel at all?
>Albarea brothers
>CS1 Ending
>CS2 Intermission before Rean DT's
>Blue Destination
>Not Amuro vs Char

>>180578318
>Everyone who calls me out on my bullshit is the same guy
fuck off dude

you already ruined the /v/ threads why do you need to come here and ruin this one too?

>>180578332
>majority of vocabulary made up of 'retard'
>i don't need a thesaurus
what did he mean by this?

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>>180578395
>why do you need to come here and ruin this one too

>>180578425
Maybe you should read the rest of the sentence instead of just cutting it off halfway through, dumbfuck.

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>>180577910
Give her back, she's mine!

>>180578103
She deserves your adoration!

>>180578602
>I can't recognise constantly spammed memes
>you're the dumbfuck
what did he mean by this?

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>>180578627
>She deserves your adoration!
I just can't for some reason, she's not all that cute. I'm still on Zero but I think Noel is the cutest because of the shorts.

>>180578736
It means you need to fuck off and stop shitting up this thread with your autism

>>180578834
>autistically attack everyone for having different opinions
>stop shitting up the thread with your autism
what did he mean by this?

>>180578375
I enjoyed the ending, because it meant I didn't have to suffer through high school bs anymore.

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This nun feels like she'd be that clueless type of girl in a hentai doujin that has no idea lewd shit is being done to her. Last time she commented on how one of the kids slapped her butt.

>>180575885
And the japanase fandom passively agressively tries to ignore it. But in the West perhaps Ys has a bit of an advantage.

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>>180578748
She's incredibly cute!

>>180576776
>Cold Steel characters are fine.
Rean Schwarzer is a boring MC with almost no personality. He's a generic friendly, but self-conscious loner that gets pigeonholed into a leader role for plot convenience. Class VII are also boring and one-dimensional as fuck outside of bonding events. Machias's hate boner for nobles got old pretty fast, and Fie and Laura's little feud was dumb as hell and completely out of character for both girls. Most of the villains don't really get interesting until CS2. Some of the NPCs are cool, but they don't get nearly enough screen time. Also, neither Crossbell nor Liberl had any characters as bad as Elise or Alfin. Jesus Christ, those two. Bleugh.

>The plot is fine.
The CS dulogy's plot is inconclusive as hell and is backloaded to oblivion by a ton of padding. I can excuse CS1's slowness since it's an introductory game meant to familiarize the player with Erebonia, but CS2 still has a ton of padding and pointlessly long dungeons. The duology lacks both the conclusiveness of the Liberl arc and the shocking twists of the Crossbell arc. Sure, Crow being Comrade C and Osborne blowing everyone the fuck out were cool moments, but they still didn't measure up to anything in FC, 3rd, or the Crossbell duology.

>You can't look at things objectively because you've already decided you hated it.
Opinions BY NATURE can't be objective. That's why they're opinions.

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>>180578375
I enjoyed pic related most of all

Why do people who don't like Trails games even come into a falcom thread, holy shit. Why even be here? Just leave

>>180580765
Cause let's be honest, people either take bait so easily in this community or answer seriously and try to reason with people intentionally here to bait people and cause shit.

>Falcom thread
When the thread is pretty much entirely Trails just name the general Kiseki general

My man Adol doesn't deserve this

>>180581308
Its a holdover from the /v/ threads where general falcom discussion got lumped into them.

>>180581308
You're free to discuss his games, no one is stopping you.

>>180581308
There's not really much point in restricting discussion to just kiseki. Falcom general is best because, even if most of the discussion is related to Trails, we might as well bring falcom as a whole into the umbrella as well.

I mean, why not?

>>180581308
Well, the only substantial news we've gotten of Ys 8 lately is the whole shivering vase deal. Conversely, Sky 3 just released in may, we got the Zero leak and Ao spreadsheet, with Sen 3 news coming in weekly. Of course people are focusing on the Kiseki series right now.

Ys 8 and Tokyo Xanadu will be released later this year which will also spark more discussions then. No need to change the general.

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The OP says this is the cutie edition, not the shitpost edition. So post falcom cuties.

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Holy shit, isn't this a little too good?

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>>180581930

>>180581930
You first.

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>>180581930
Cute Lloyd coming through!

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>>180581930

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>>180582008
BURNING HEART MAN
>>180581930
So be it

Please develop her properly Falcom

>>180579376
It's pretty obvious why Rean is put on the leader role though, considering how he is so capable and deliberate in managing people. Having no personality is not accurate either since he is easily more complex than Estelle or Lloyd; perhaps you dislike how soft spoken and discreet he is, since it doesn't capture the imagination so easily. Machias undergoes significant development and it's surprising that you complain about Laura and Fie's feud when they solved it between themselves with little to none interference from Rean himself. Alfin and Elise are nowhere near on the same level, and I can easily point out worse characters than the latter in terms of being one note and flat in all games (gilbert, wald).

CS duology plot is fairly conclusive, it achieves what it set out to do and is a marked difference in tone to the other games.

>>180582339
>Having no personality is not accurate either since he is easily more complex than Estelle or Lloyd
How the hell is he complex? He's totally predictable and by the numbers.

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How often do these two fuck?

>>180582907
Why is Wazy not the dominant one here?

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>>180582339
>Having no personality is not accurate either since he is easily more complex than Estelle or Lloyd
Estelle was motivated by Joshua to grow as an overall person and as a Bracer while Lloyd tries up to live up to his brother's image. I don't see anything much similar in Rean in just finding himself which is honestly a very overdone concept and goal for a main character in the LN's he basically based from. His entire ordeal with his demon issue has also been discussed to death and could have been handled so much better to actually give him some tangible evidence to be scared of his own powers because so far, he hasn't used it on anyone who didn't deserve it.
>Machias undergoes significant development
I'm not sure he undergoes anything too insignificant since he had no grand showcase to show up that he got over his issues over it. Would have helped if maybe Marquis Hyarms wasn't cut out in CS2 or if him rescuing his dad wasn't followed immediately by the Infernal Castle popping up.
>Laura and Fie's feud when they solved it between themselves with little to none interference from Rean himself.
I mean I guess they would have fought it out eventually whether or not Rean was there or not but I still found the spat stupid, and so did Laura.
>Gilbert
I think Gilbert had his crowning moment of character building in 3rd when he goes to distract the dragions, which is say a lot more than what Elliot, Machias, Millium, Alisa, and Gaius have done.

>>180583132
Because he's the bottom bitch

>>180583152
Oh and I forgot to mention. Gilbert's a complete comedic relief character who manages to have a great moment for himself while Elise and Alfin have yet to do so.

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>>180583132
I want to be dominated by Wazy

I started playing TitS FC and realized the amount of foreshadowing on the first chapter. Like, when Joshua tells Estelle that silver haired angels deliver kids or that girl who wants to be reporter.

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>>180583398
>>180582907
>>180583132

>>180575606

You could say the same for Sky and Zero/Ao.

Yes Oroborous major plan advanaces (but the same happens in Cold Steel) but the adventure's of the heroes in each game are mostly self contained.

>>180582339
>son of Osborne
>the chosen one who can pilot a gundam
>ogre powers that turn his hair white
>several girls that want to fuck him
>a literal ear piece in a majority of the bond events
>leader of the class because MC and no defined goal in life
>practitioner of the eight leaves style
>able to beat another knight who had a couple more years of experience than him
>has the attention of McBurn, one of the strongest characters in the series
>single-handedly rescues the princess, who also happens to lust after his cock, alone on an enemy ship
People actually defend this garbage?

>>180584383
>le burning heart man
>every girl wants his dick
>literal gary stu, irrelevant police officer who for some reason has the power to challenge ouroboros and other bad guys
People actually defend this garbage?

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>>180564854
Excellent stuff. I've heard from someone who visited them at E3 that late August seems likely for either Zwei II or Cold Steel PC. This blog actually doesn't confirm they aren't doing Zwei!!, but it's very unlikely anyway because the game's hard to get running on Windows these days and can't be updated to look better because Falcom designed the art for sub-HD resolutions.

>>180567447
Maybe they wanted her to look a bit kooky. After all, she hugged the edge out of two Enforcers, she must be on cloud 9 by now.

>>180569540
Airship intermissions in SC are just too good.

>>180583152
Gilbert's moment is neat and convenient for keeping the stakes high at that point, but the real surprise about him is how dignified he seemed before he conspired with Dalmore. The guy's a wimpy joke you can largely predict, and that's fine because he's funny as hell. Much as I find Alisa disappointing, she does have actual development at various points, and I wouldn't call the other characters flat except for Gaius and Machias and Millium. Nor would I put them on par with many cast members in the Liberl arc, which is a shame.

Sen III looks like the final chance to make these characters properly interesting, and Falcom's had two and a half years to analyze fan feedback and work on improving old Class VII. The premise now is just too rich, and Ys VIII apparently shows the writing team still has what it takes. I think CS (II) mainly suffered from rushing and Falcom wanting to capture a new, younger fanbase while keeping the old one (which may or may not have worked). Oh well.

>>180579019
Ys VIII and Tokyo Xanadu will probably sell close to each other on Steam outside East Asia, let alone console. But it's clear Falcom's not going to stop making awesome games like Ys VIII if they can make time for them...all those years in development paid off.

>>180581308
If you want, I'm happy to chat about Xanadu Next or Ys.

>>180581930
Not cute, but have a cool Ys dad.

>>180584383
>several girls that want to fuck him
Technically you could ignore the Class VII girls but yeah this definitely is an issue which only gets worse if you try to bond with multiple girls. He has attention from Elise, Alfin, and Claire automatically

>>180584383
>>able to beat another knight who had a couple more years of experience than him
My favourite thing about Sky FC is the Loewe fight on the balcony, you go up against someone who completely outmatches you and he just wipes the floor with you.

>>180584641
>you go up against someone who completely outmatches you and he just wipes the floor with you.
unless you're not a retard and you manage to beat him.

>>180584506
That's honestly still way less problems than Rean.

Why do fans of le burning heart man unironically shit on le demon power man? It's fucking retarded. Just stop.

>>180584796
Fuck off mate, when you go in for the first time you're not going to have the meta setup and knowledge of how he actually fights to be able to beat him unless you constantly reload saves.

>>180584796
I beat him, I also beat Muller in SC.
Joshua also beat Loewe despite the fact that he was completely outmatched.
>>180584383
>a literal ear piece in a majority of the bond events
He's the main character, of course he's going to be.

>>180585093
I beat him my first time on my first attempt my first time playing the game, I wasn't even following a guide.

>>180584850
Half of those problems are not even problems, more so when we can apply some of those complaints to Estelle and Kevin.No one's going to deny Rean has problems, but that problem list is the definition of cherrypicking

>>180585010
Because Lloyd isn't a retard edge Kirito clone?

>>180584568
>Much as I find Alisa disappointing, she does have actual development at various points
A lot of my disdain towards Alisa is due to her mom not validating any of her accomplishments. I understand it's a front but the whole back and forth in both games between the two gets really repetitive.

I'm impressed this general has managed to become actually worse than the /v/ threads. It was a nice experiment but if its just going to be mindless aggression theres no point sticking around. its a shame as the first 2 had so much promise.

>>180585373
>He's okay because he has brown hair instead of black!
nipfags, everyone

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>Got my ass saved again

And i thought i was doing good for a while, i guess i had to be reminded i'm not that much hot shit.

>>180585414
The baiter is just too good at this.

>>180581308
Just finished Felghana and Seven here. Why did they keep using "the nicest character is the big bad" plot twist? If Ys VIII still have this I'll shoot myself.

>>180585414
Blame the retard who can't see someone mention Cold Steel without going full autism about how much he hates it