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>T3 Do nothing
>T4 Put yourself at 10 hp
>T5 do nothing
>T6 do nothing
and bloodbabs think this is tier 0 in WD

>>180460164
>T4 Put yourself at 10 hp
Why shadownigger is so dumb?

>Dark General
>looks like Noire without panties
>voiced by plutia
top vote

>>180460164
>opponent drops abyss
>tribunal
>eat 6 and now at 14
>"I seem to have lost"
It'll be T0 for sure anon

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just kys bro

>>180460164
>T3 Do nothing
?????
If you mean Dire Bond, nothing says that you have to play it on turn 3 if you need to play something else, retard.
>T4 Put yourself at 10 hp
You don't need Vengeance for anything either.

How come so many people fell for the CBlood meme in RoB yet no one knows shit about CBlood?

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How come dragon gets 4 legendaries every expansion?

>>180460460
>How come so many people fell for the CBlood meme in RoB yet no one knows shit about CBlood?
you know the answer

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>turn 1 pass
>turn 2 oracle
>turn 3 pass
>turn 4 sibyl
>concede

h-hear the dragons roar!

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>>180460474
HEAR

>>180460474
>>180460567
3 new rowen chapters soon

>>180460551
>not turn 1 Eggs

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>all the cards are out
you know what this means right? It's time to see how good /svg/ REALLY is to evaluate new cards. Vote keeping in mind Eachtar as a 10/10 card.

Let's start with:
Havencraft: Lion of the Golden City
http://www.strawpoll.me/13256674
Swordcraft: Council of Card Knights
http://www.strawpoll.me/13256687
Runecraft: Dark Magician - Highlain
http://www.strawpoll.me/13256698
Bloodcraft: Demon Key
http://www.strawpoll.me/13256706

>>180460128
Unfortunately, yeah.

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>>180460551
>turn 4 sibyl

>>180460460
>>180460226
Cblood needs vengeance for Drain and Revelation shitters

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>>180460640
Sounds like a powerplay to me

>>180460551
>turn 1 pass
>turn 2 oracle
>turn 3 rahab
>turn 4 fervor
>turn 5 sybil

HEAR HEAR

>>180460743
>Runecraft
Abomination Awakened - 4
Wizardess of Oz - 3

Falise, Leonardin Mage - 2
Golem Assault - 4
Master Mage Levi - 4

Mysterian Grimoire - 0
Gingebread House - 3
Illusionist - 4
Dark Magician, Highlain - 3

Witch of Sweets - 2
Carbuncle of Mysteria - 1
Apprentice Swordmage - 2
Witch's Pot - 4

>Dragoncraft
Wyrm God of the Skies - 5
Jabberwocky - 3
Queen of the Dread Sea - 4

Red Ragewyrm - 3
Tilting at Windmills - 3
Dragoon Theatre - 2

Master of Draconic Arts - 1
Hippogryph Rider - 2
Draconic Lance - 0
Fortress Crab - 0

Dragon Summoner - 2
Elder Tortoise - 3
Jet Black Beast Warrior - 2
Dragon Statue - 0

>Shadowcraft
Corpselord of Woe - 2
Dark Alice - 5

Apple of Rebirth - 3
Ded Moroz - 3
Odile, Black Swan - 3

Usher of Styx - 1
Caterpillar of Riddles - 2
Nightmare's Executioner - 1
Siren's Tear - 2

Haunted House - 1
Mad Hatter - 3
Skeleton Orge - 4
Demon Eater - 3

>Bloodcraft
Carabosse, Wicked Fairy - 4
Spawn of the Abyss - 6

Lethal Blade - 2
Emeralda, Demonic Officer - 4
Phantom Cat - 4

Furtive Fang - 2
Boy Who Cried Wolf - 2
Bandersnatch - 5
Scarlet Sabreur - 4

Tove - 4
Big Knuckle Bodyguard - 5
Demon Key - 5
Twisting Demon - 4

>people literally saying they only use Dark General to win games

>>180460934
Yeah right?
Triple razory claw does it aswell

>betas want beast dominator because omg please steep on me let me lick your feet
>alpha males want azazel because they arent afraid of their sexuality

>>180460915
>>180460743
>souleksv
>discord
opinion discarded

>>180460743
>>180460915
Kill yourself, shitposter.

>>180460768
There'll probably be a spot for Blood Moon in Cblood

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If you play 2 or 3 tweedle dums on one turn, will their effects be stackable?

>>180460915
>carbuncle 1
How fucking high are you right now?

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need a concede.
19948

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Special for bandwagoners and Hagfags
>T1 Flowerbed
>T2 Baphomet
>T3 Key
>T4 hit yourself twice
>T5 enjoy

>>180460743
>>180460915
Nobody needs you're retarded opinion, fuck off.

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>>180460974
>Alpha males don't replace urias
FTFY
>>180461047
Sure why shouldn't it. It's the equivalent of playing 2 fairies.
Probably designed as an arena card to make combo cards less dead in there

>>180461078
literally unironically a worse Conjure Golem

>>180460768
And?

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>>180459907
>>180460830
I can understand preferring one of the other options, what I don't get is people who genuinely dislike her. Also, Azazel is a wasted vote considering Urias is still a better male leader anyway

>>180459934
>>180460053
I don't understand why her VA being popular makes her as a character less appealing. Sure, her VA is a selling point for some people, but she's nice either way, and still an Albert-tier staple in almost every Blood deck. Not sure where the idea that she wasn't played before KYS came from, but it's outright untrue seeing as she's been used in aggro bats and even Bloody Mary decks for the short amount of time that legendary was viable.

>>180459908
>>180459945
>>180460006
>>180460108
>all these trash opinions
Y'all have some real top-notch shit taste, you know that?

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>>180460915
>Demon Key-5

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>>180461024
>adventure 0
Anon Im sorry but the cancer is terminal

>>180460742
Someone remind me what Highlain does. I can't check the notes in the docs on mobile.

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>>180460743
>Officer of Antiquity - 2
never forget

>>180461119
thanks mom!

>>180461262
She would literally be a mouthbreather, her mouth is open in her art.

>>180460742
>demon key
Cheating out a big follower early can be powerful, but I rate it low anyway, because of the huge setup required and how much of a dead draw it is

Good for highrolling, but garbage beside it
Would love to hear why some guys in here rate it so high, maybe I miss something

>>180460743
Piss off. You guys rated Eachtar as 2/5 last time. Competitive my ass.

>>180461356
Follower
5/6 -> 7/8
Fanfare: All spellboost cards in your hand with less than 5 spellboost, gets its spellboost up to 5

I'll keep posting polls every hour

>>180461356
The shitty wannabe daria

>>180461386
vania's mouth is open in her art too, but they had the common sense to close it for her leader portrait. Latham is an outlier because his art was a mess to begin with, I don't think they'd make the same mistake twice

Why DOESN'T Gawain normally have Rush? Or, at the very least, why doesn't his enhance work on turn 5?

He's literally useless if you're going first.

>>180460768
Did you know Dire Bond actually didn't let you die and stalled the game until turn 6 without the opponent being able to do anything while you drawn your whole deck?

>>180461401
If you have a Spawn in your hand you automatically win the game

>>180461401
>maybe I miss something
Because big follower is Cthulhu. Or god forbid if this shit will trigger fanfare
>Azazel
>Sneks

>>180461542
same reason merlin doesn't
gawain fanfare should have been put a commander in your hand, too

>>180461148
>>180461148
>can't into basic English
>calling anyone retarded

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:thinking:
left or right dragonbros
finally I can play T2

>>180461679
U serious dude

>>180461679
is that even a question

>>180461542
4pp 3/4 Rush is stupid. The problem with Gawain is that he has no good targets to reduce the cost of other than Otohime (who is dead), and Cygames keeps turning shit that could work well with Gawain into Officers. He needed some small additional effect or to have better targets to be viable.

>>180461672
>being this retarded
But reddit, I'm using you're meme.

>>180461401
>Muh turn 5 spawn!

I'd rate 2.5 or 3 since kys and aggro will prefer bringing a body at turn 3 or firing a removal. It's not autoinclude for blood.

>>180461679
Easy left.

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How do I stop feeling sad that when I will never build a tier 1 deck with my own idea.

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Someone the other day was asking how Elta is useful.

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>>180461724
>>180461739
>>180461791
got another tough one for you guys

>>180461792
New expansion is soon. Go make a tier 1 deck.

>>180461679
Choose left. Dragonslayer's price gives you good value

>>180461792
You're not in potion for deck building unless you have all cards.

>>180461792
There's literally nothing wrong with that, 99.9% of all people who play card games just play decks someone else came up with

>>180461860
Left again.

>>180461860
Left again. You need Uriel for that eventual Discard Dragon win.

>>180461776
Sorry, I wouldn't know about reddit memes.
Also
>nice save attempt

>>180461763
He works great with Roland, Frontguard, and Leonidas. Also, just attacking once, allows you to play a 5-cost commander and Amelia by turn 7 which is nice.

He could definitely use more targets, but his problem is that just summoning one follower and attacking on turn 5 is almost always a shitty play and screws your over for the rest of the duel.

>>180461128
the best option for T4 with the less backslash is 1 Wraith and Razory claw

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>>180461585
>>180461587
I know that it's good for highrolling
I was wondering on how you guys wanna make it consistent enough to be viable
Baphomet for abyss is a no-brainer, but the key?
Fucking uriel?
And even if you get the key you need to get the selfharm together with the abyss monster
And even if you pull it off you're starring down multiple do nothing turns and the hope of your opponent not having an answer to it or heals/wards to recover afterwards

Sounds horrible being stuck with a few abyss monsters and self harm in your hand and then not being able to cheat them out
Might be better than atomeme, but not by much

>>180461639
If Gawain was like Merlin he would be, you know, a good legendary.
4 pp 3/4 -> 4/5 Fanfare: place one random commander that costs 5 pp or more into your hand. When this follower attacks reduce the cost of all commanders by one
Evolve: place one random commander that costs 5 pp or more into your hand. When this follower attacks reduce the cost of all commanders by one.
Get rid of the rush effect.
All that text and it still wouldn't be as strong as Sibyl or Eachtar

>>180462074
There's no way to make it consistent, Key is a shit card and anyone who thinks otherwise deserves euthanasia

>>180461792
The true master race are those who copy a successful deck then make tweaks based on their personal preference.

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>WD full set revealed
>Not a single universal Storm enabler
>another 3 fucking months of Roach Forest
Good night sweet prince

>>180462020
regardless of that, you're a newfag.

>>180462006
>>180461980
thanks dragonbros
wish me luck
final choice was between Aina + Date Masamune and Polyphonic Meme and Imperial Dragoon

>>180462140
Key is a great card and anyone who thinks otherwise deserves euthanasia

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So now that we've established Heavenly Aegis is the most broken piece of shit card in the game, what can we do about it? I propose that you allow some very limited effects to affect it, such as stopping it from attacking.

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>>180461860
Odin is shit. Retire.

>>180462135
Make it 6pp or more or people will only use him for Albert.

>>180462135
>powercreeped maid leader
I like it

>>180462220
Not if I euthanize you first

>>180462161
>not wanting that as a Leader
What's wrong with Forestcucks?!

>>180461792
The game would need an absurd amount of cards to allow for new top tier decks to suddenly pop up outside the release of a new expansion. What you can do is netdeck and then swap out the cards you feel are weak against the decks you encounter at your particular skill level.

>>180462246
>aegis
>not grimnir

>>180462186
See, i told you'll need that Uriel for the discard win. Wish you luck anon.

>>180462161
Play Neutral Forest. Tempo got some new tools as well.
Of course Forest is still shit, but you don't necessarily need to Roach for another 3 months.

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>>180462291

>>180462304
>>180462246
Aegis only existent Semi counter is Ephemeral Moon

>>180462246
I want to make love to this bunny.

>>180462246
>complaining about Aegis
D rank?

>>180462406
just unga bro

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>>180462376
So that's how it is eh
Put 'em up ol' boy

>>180462406
They will never print an Aegis counter. Stop with this retarded idea.
Aegis is already a bad deck right now. If they printed a Neutral counter, Aegis would be completely useless because it would be just as counterable as Seraph, but significantly slower.

>>180462074
sad we don't have something like pokemon showdown for SV

>>180462074
It doesn't matter what anybody has.
Jam your deck full of Spawn tutors and things that support Spawn and then get the fucker out there. As soon as you do you win the game.
Key is just another way to do it.

>>180462246
>Aegis
haven't seen this card in a month, I just kill them before they play it or they play birdcraft which is clearly superior in this meta

>>180462246
>we've established
Kill yourself Moon retarded. You're just like narumeia secondaries. You are the ugly duck of Haven.

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>tfw vampy doesn't pull the 1/4 ward with airjammer as unga

>>180462289
Maid leader is too much tempo loss anymore. 1/1 on turn 2 when shit like 1/4s and 3/3s are going to be common place.

>>180462657
>ha ha... im having so much fun only playing aggro in a meta where only aggro is viable!

kill yourself retard

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Name a single good card Forest got in the new expansion

Guys I feel like golem dirt will be viable, at least on par with dirt burn. You have Witch's pot, Magic Library, and kaleidoscopic glow, to keep your card count high, ancient alchemist, fates hand, and golem assault to max out your hand to trigger abomination, and reduced golems that can be played with golem protection or pascale for golems that can only be cleared with themis and bahumut.
Oz is kind of a mixed bag for dirt burn. High cost card or an aggro deck that has to be played turn 7+ to get any real value out of but can give better consistency going late game in conjunction with melvie and gives added burst against healing control decks like haven and ramp dragon.

>>180462791
Beauty and the Beast

>>180462694
To think that shitter's bunny is getting a Leader.

>>180462791
Fairy driver, rose princess.

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>>180462791
B-Bea--
Forest Pr---
Fairy Driv---
Worse Sage Comma---

At this fucking moment I have like 30% winrate but 5 hours from now I have like 80% winrate. Why?

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h-hear...

>>180463135
How do you still have an egg?

>>180463135
Dragon doesn't have enough Board clear or bane. Fuck this shit.

What if Salamander breath could hit face?

>>180463135
just LB bro

>>180463286
Pepe players the world over would cry
Storm Dragon would be t1

Just Eachtar bro!

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Are blood players really gonna get bashed in a week?

>>180463238
his turn just started

>>180463135
just use mirror force bro

>>180463286
grimnir 2.0?

>>180462709
source? couldn't find anything with yandex or saucenao

>>180463135
just have your egg hatch and get your 10th pp bro

>>180463443
Innocent

>>180462709
>you
>4chan
There your chance to create OC.

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>>180462694
What is this /gbfg/ meme about Narumeia? Is pic related also shit according to them? I don't play granblue, but dorafs are a fucking blessing

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>>180462859
our time has come!

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>>180445594
>>180454067

I modified my a deck a bit because not enough bodies to bring down dragon and haven on below 10hp past T5.

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>>180462424
You can have that bunny.

I wanna marry this bunny.

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>>180463625
How's Demonic Strike working out for you?

I don't really love it myself

>>180462709
someone edit Unica on this

>>180463587
she's secondary bait but imo cog is a bigger one

>>180463625
>Everyone is excited for the new 1pp sigil
>All i wanted was a 1/1 or 1/2 + sigil drop for 1

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>Bloodfed Flower x3
>Baphomet x3
>Razor Claw x3
>Vampiric Kiss x3
>Hungering Horde x3
>Mask x2
>Goblin mage x2
>Key x3
>Righteous Devil x3
>Big Knuckle Bodyguard x3
>Bandersnatch x3
>Diabolic Drain x3
>Spawn x3
>Revelation x3

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>>180463582
w-what?

>>180463828
I combo it with golem for 8pp 6 damage after a melvie. Really works well with blood after belph drop and just finish him with crimson sorc+demonic.

What does Gawain say when you summon him?

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>Need Forestcraft for my daily mission
>Ask for Forestcraft deck without Ancient Elf last thread
>Anon responds with ridiculous anomaly white wolf ward
>Missing some cards, add a bunch of Aeris and other heals and wards
>Play against Havencraft
>Oh great its another Aegis faggot
>Game actually taking literally 30 minutes because both of us keep healing and warding and removing cards
>He actually concedes because the game was taking too long

Thanks anon! Thought I'd never finish this daily.

>>180464126
I'm gay

>>180464073
>mask and Key together
no

3 x Amgling Wraith
2 x Bloodfed FlowerBed
3 x Blood Pact
3 x Razory Claw
2 x Hungering Horder
3 x Baphomet
3 x Goblin Mage
3 x Demon Key
3 x Demon Commander Laura
2 x Righteous Devil
3 x Dark General
3 x Scarlet Sabreur
2 x Imp Lancer
2 x Spawn
3 x Revelations

I don't think I'm going to like this Neutralshit expansion.

>>180464126
no one knows since no one uses him

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Post your favorite decks and yfw you saw all the cards from this expansion.

>Dirt (Burn/Control)
>Discard Dragon
>Seacraft
>Pepecraft

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>>180460769
>>180460474

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>>180464352
It sure looks unruly, but at least it gave us some cute waifus.

>>180464450

what does worldwielder ginger say when you summon here?

how does deepwood anomaly sound like?

>>180464621
>tfw anomaly effect is cool as fuck but you only saw it playing the AI

>>180440230
I don't really think Neutral Forest will be particularly good in comparison to other crafts.
But I am still pretty sure that Neutral Forest is meant to be played by stacking your hand with fairies and then transforming all of them into neutral cards using looking glass.

And after that you could in theory play Alice or something before playing Fairy Driver and storm your opponent with buffed fairies or something. I don't really know.
But while you're correct on Forest and their card draws and all that. I do believe Neutral Forest craft will be able to do Neutral combos, even if very reliant on looking glass.

>>180464126
>A hundred battlefields, a hundred prizes.
>>180464621
>Disaster, my only desire.
I don't know what Anomaly says even when I a have a copy of it.
T. Dubcuck.

>Azazel OTK will be more viable thanks to Bandersnatch and key
WD is great

>go second
>don't draw Hector
>lose
very interactive gameplay

>>180464932
>implying either of those will trigger fanfares when fanfare effects require the card to be played from hand with play points

>>180464932
>no fanfares

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>>180465064
>>180465092

>>180465064
But key

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>Less than 5% play rate
>Devs still refuse to give her anything to the power level of Daria/Eachtar/Albert
How do we comfort her?

>forest and sword the worst crafts in the game
>get the most neutral support while other crafts got actual class utility
>will continue to be trash
>shadow got neutral trash but doesn't matter because lmao eachtar

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>>180465310
Double vaginal.

>>180465310
delete her

>>180465310

> How do we comfort her?

Introduce her to my orc buddy.

>>180465349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdv6A5X11yo

>>180465046
>Hector
Can you stop being a weaboo for once, especially now that they threw you a neutral with the same name?

Will forestfags and swordfags ever stop their incessant whining?

>>180465568
Hector Hector Hector

>>180465585
Stop the roach hate first.

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>>180465310
All the bullshit in this game stems from the fact that expansions are made ahead of the time
So, WD was already done by the time TotG shipped and devs got to see its effects.

>>180465298
Key doesn't trigger fanfare either. Neither does the golden lion.

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>it's been an entire year
>haven't gotten a single new mel/a card since standard
I want Rage of Bahamut back

>>180465585
Havenfags crying 24/7. It's okay

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What went wrong?

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>>180465770
corrupted

OFFICIAL WHINY BABBY TIER LIST
Forest > Shadow > Dragon > Blood > Haven > Sword > Rune

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Whose the meme now BITCH?!?

>>180465770
>Ha-ha-ha-ha

>>180465662
They can just tinker with the stats instead of the effect. For example make fairy driver a 3PP 2/3, and that shitty ward 5PP. Then again the ward is still shit who am I kidding.

People are saying that sword will still be shit but I think the stuff we got is great
>bladed hedgehog
becomes a reverse shadow reaper with shadowed assassin. plus all the rush and storm we already have
>old man and woman
kills two shits with an evolve, which is not hard to have considering luminous
>2pp 3dmg removal
neat
>cinderella
pretty good
>cock
better alwida
>officer timmy
meh because officer, still, better alex. could work with roland maybe
>kiss
commander unica, nuff said. could even work in tandem with cock
>rabbit ear
meh. could work with cock too
plus the other neutral stuff like ephemera and rapunzel

It will not be T1 by far, but still I'm liking it

LEVI LEADER WHEN?

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>>180465770
Because a neutral has a follower that can spawn 1/2 every turn.

is that site to listen to card lines in both english and jap still up?

>>180465952
blood should be higher desu

>>180463587
>Is pic related also shit according to them?
Not as much as the other 3 or 4 characters. Danua was mentally retarded so it appealed to equally retarded awkward posters. By the way, narumeya stand for facebook and literal secondary kids. It isn't a meme, absolutely not a meme. She's the namba 2 cancer. Think of her as Naruto.

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>>180465952
>rune last

>>180465952
Haven bitching 24/7 about roaches and blood
>Why Strom is so shit??
>Wtf Aegis is meme

Is there an album/spreadsheet of all the cards? I want to get to theorycrafting even though everything is going to lose to blood anyway.

>>180466067
There's sv.bagoum.com, that I remember.

>>180465405
souce?

>>180466291
are you serious

God, watching Liam play this game is pretty tilting.

>>180466385
No, I'm fucking joking. What do you think?

>>180466067
usamin.love/sv.html is still up.

>>180466353
The artist deleted his Pixiv account and I don't have the full image on phone. But I'll try to see if I can get it somewhere else.

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>>180463828
I don't really feel comfortable if my dirt deck doesn't have 3 demonic strikes.

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>>180460742
Time for more polls

>Runecraft Legendary: Wizardess of Oz:
5 PP Follower
4/5 -> 6/7
Fanfare: Draw cards until there are 5 cards in your hand, change the cost of the spells without Spellboost in your hand to 1.
Last Words: At the start of your next turn, banish all spells in your hand
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257196
>Dragoncraft Gold: Red Ragewyrm:
3PP Follower
0/5 -> 10/10
Can't attack.
Evolved: Can attack. Destroy this follower at the end of your turn.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257211
>Bloodcraft Gold: Emeralda, Demonic Officer:
7 PP Follower
4/5 -> 6/7
Fanfare: Destroy an enemy follower or amulet. Gain Storm if Vengeance is active for you
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257224
>Shadowcraft Silver: Usher of Styx
2 PP Follower
2/2 -> 4/4
Fanfare: Necromancy 6: Put 1 of your highest-cost follower that has been destroyed during this match to your hand.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257277
Forest Bronze: Woodland Band:
3 PP Amulet
At the end of your turn, give all allied followers +2/+2 if at least 4 followers with a different name are in play. Then destroy this amulet.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257291
Shadowcraft Silver: Haunted House
1 PP Amulet
Countdown 3
Whenever an allied follower (except Ghost) is destroyed during your turn, summon a Ghost.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257307

Last polls results as of now:
Lion of the Golden City: 8.13/10
Council of Card Knights: 7.45/10
Highlain: 7/10
Demon Key: 4.75/10

>>180466439
then read the OP retard

>>180463625
This deck would be better with more big guys in it

>>180466507
The OP spreadsheet is shit. I want to be able to scroll through and see every card without having to hover over a small textbox just to read what it does. Also seeing the image helps me remember it better.

Thanks for the replies but kindly go fuck yourself. There has to be an imgur album or something lying around.

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>>180466295
>>180466453

thanks bros

>>180466000
If it's not tier 0 or tier 1, it's trash.
Nothing sword or forest can do against a Shadow or Dragon player that draws well. Add Blood into that mix and you got the meta for the next 3 months.

>>180466646
the site that everyone hates to mention has one,starts with R

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>>180466646

>>180466543
>big guys
Elder dragon? I lost rank points from experimenting with it and it's too slow because 8PP. What's worse is when dragon baha'd your amulets pre-turn 8. Hulking giant is easy to remove too.

>>180465568
You have no way of making them stop using the name they want to use, you're free to explode into a tardrage over it though.

Generally I think that WD actually
>gives every class something playable (no joke)
>neutralcraft will still be meme tier that will be used by the class that is doing badly in the next expansion (forest and sword lmao)
>blood in general will rise in tier because of BKB
>Dirt will be super duper annoying (more annoying than now)
>The entire set will further the powercreep as usual
>Shadow and dragon still cancer

Really, this expansion won't change the status quo much. At most it will pull the lowest playrate class to >5% playrate, at worst people will abandon the class altogether.

>>180466646
Suck it up, adhd faggot.

>>180466927
At first i thought alice would be an amazing card put in every deck. But now with blood and dragon shit, i think she will be pretty subpar.

>>180466994
ok
>>180466796
thanks, wish it was an album but this works better
>>180466819
too slow

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>2017
>Not defeating everyone with still in her teens, Eris

>>180467062
>dragon shit
Dragon did not get a single playable card this time

>>180466927
>>180467062
The thing about this neutralcraft thing is that it's just a momentary fad. When the next expansions come, no one is going to bother putting those cards that need 3 neutral cards to work.

>>180467194
I sure wish Hector was a momentary fad

>>180467143
Post dick

>>180467170
Ragewyrm

>>180467265
Duh. What do you expect from a 4/4 that needs 3 neutral to work?

>>180466353
>>180466479
http://i.imgur.com/kzS6Y0r.png

>>180467339
2x Seraph, 3x Dogma, 3x Sister, 2x Healing Prayer, and the rest literally doesn't even matter, just shove in removal and you'll win because Haven is the most broken shit that everyone will defend to their grave

>>180465770
His jap evo line makes me ashamed to be a dubcuck in this time of kys blood

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Damn, this was the dirtiest curve I ever had. By turn 7, I had warded up thanks to guardian sun and by turn 9, I managed to summon Aegis safely even without having to evolve it.

>>180467449
I FEEL SO STRONG!

>>180467449
Why? His dub evo line is one of my favorites in the game.

>>180467194
Neutralcraft is for poorfag to do their dailies. Notice that only forest has very specific condition for neutral synergy to trigger (3/5 neutral cards in hand), and most of them are high PP follower which means it is hard to get the effect out.

>>180467449
compare
http://usamin.love/card/devil_of_vengeance/e_evolve.wav
http://usamin.love/card/devil_of_vengeance/j_evolve.wav

>0/4 spiderweb imp on turn 2
lmao

>>180467442
>seraph haven is broken

Nah. This meta is just fantastic for it right now, because no one is running amulet removal like odin.

Though I have run into a few dragoncrafts that run lightning blast, but that's out of several dragoncraft matches.

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https://youtu.be/T3e6Wy19jbo

>>180467836
H-HEAR!

>Albert
>Levi
>Sybil or Bahamut
>Cuckgel
>Dark General
>Eachtar
>[angry roach noises]
Best leader options.

I just realised that Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum is a fanfare effect for that turn only. What the flying fuck? How is it any different than playing 2 fairies? Fucking hell.

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>>180467945

>>180467976
It's combined into one card

Will Eidolon ever be useful?

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>>180468103
I sure fucking hope

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>>180467976
>>180468021
Look at these fuccbois. Fucking useless. Turn 2 do nothing. At least with fairies you have the flexibility to play them separately. Having 2PP to add +2 to your combo cannot help forest to fight the powercreep.

>>180467976
takes one board slot

>>180468201
U madness bro?

>T4 Levi
>T5 Levi
>T6 Levi
>T7 Levi
>T8 Levi
>T8 Levi
The only way Rune can save itself

Elder Roach for Forestcraft when?

>>180468279
That is not useful at all. Tia is best to play on turn 5 with fairies from EPM turn 4. The only reason you want to save a board space is because of amulets. But fuck me in the ass which forest amulet would you want on board so bad that you put in this card over Liza/Lily/Abby?

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>finally got my 3rd animated JO crystal with the RoB packs
makes up for the only legendary being my 6th dragoon

>>180468268
Good. Get fucked.

>katana unsheated and ARGS are now neutral cards

Y/N?

>>180468279
Not going to be useful for Roach at all. I'd rather run Abby any day but this card really isn't as bad as people make it sound.

It's a 2/2 for 2. On 4 PP going 2nd this works with Sukuna. 5 PP this works with beetle. It's an average card but it's not unplayable because it's a fighter with a positive effect that forest can take advantage of.

Can I get a concede? 20284

>>180468557
Everyone stops using Goblin.

>>180468268
IT ALSO CLOGS PULLING OUT ROACH

Lmao cygames just delete forestcraft

>>180468489
Adult Aiela for Rowencraft when

>>180468489
>Elder roach
>4PP 1/1
>Storm
>Fanfare: Gain X amount of attack point. X equals to the amount of cards you played this turn times 2

Sounds pretty bad. I would rather use the normal roach.

I CAN'T WAIT ANY MORE
ALL THIS GOLD
ALL THESE VIALS
I MUST SPEND THEM

>>180468637
Thanks Forte

>>180468557
If that means Sword can run 6 Quickbladers, sure

>>180468724
resist nigga

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>>180468724

>>180468778
>tfw can't have a deck with 40 quickbladers.

COME EXPANSION
COME
IA IA WONDERLAND

When will other crafts get alternative cards like Ta-G and ARS?

>>180469196
Cthulhu pls go

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90940

Need a quick concede, thanks!

>>180469290
Let me just pull out my crystal ball

steam sales are here boys

>>180469319

Thank you Mama Forte!

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>>180468716
You aren't powercreeping it the right way anon.
>Elder Roach
>3pp 2/1
>Storm
>Fanfare: Gain +x/+0 where x is the amount of cards played this turn. All cards with Roach in the name deal 2 times the amount of damage they would do.

do you anons think that we will get new starter decks

>>180469601
>not return an allied follower to your hand. gain +x/+0 where x its attack multiplied by 2

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So what Wonderland Memes are you going to try out first?

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Who else is exited to see rowen wife and daughter get fucked in story mode?

>>180469846
Starts with an "S" and ends with "pawn of the Abyss"

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>>180469802
That works too. Anything that allows for otk roach to actually otk instead of having to pray the opponent doesn't heal out of your reach.

>>180469846
Since dragon got jackshit this time I'll just try out whatever I pull
Maybe try some sea queen memes in unranked for fun

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>>180469846
forestcraft

>>180469846
Flame and glass.

>>180468565
>Not going to be useful for Roach at all
LMAO FUCKING FORESTNIGGERS
BUT HOW DOES THIS HELP MUH ROACH
NO WONDER CYGAMES HATES YOU

>>180468489
You forget T10, T11 and T12 grimnir.

>>180469846
Hare slut with Garuda.

>>180468268
I don't get it. It counts as two cards player? That's so fucking bad. Should've been a goblin with that fanfare not a fucking fighter.

>>180469846
I won't be able to play on the week after release and by the time I'm back it will already be a tryhard meta again.
So none basically.

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>midsword got literally nothing
Well. Maybe oldman can fit in it.

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h-hear...

>>180469802
>not return an allied follower to your hand than destroy it, multiply the cost with 4 put it back on the field, dived the attack with the number of opponents/2, add the number of remaining cards of the deck - the times Arisa got raped and multiply it by the average cost of every card played until now.

>>180469846
All of them unless I get ridiculously unlucky with packs.

>>180469846
Control blood,not anything for facedragon or atomeme side a few cards

>>180468716
>>180469601
>>180468716
>Elder roach
>10PP 1/2
>
>Fanfare: Bounce it six time. Roach is attached to Arisa's tight pussy. Win the duel.

>>180470597
you might be mentally ill

>>180469846
another go at otk kel. that monk may help with keeping monastic waters in my hand.

>>180470106
>Only have one playable archetype
>Card isn't good because it doesn't help the archetype
Makes sense to me

>>180469846
Neutral Forest/Sword.

>>180470890
why is Bolt considered not a playable archetype but roach is

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STOP

>win 7 matches for a standard pack
>naw fuck that i need gold
>win 6 ranked for a standard pack
fuck you too cygames

>>180471016
>Battle to gain the title of the worst craft

Seems like Arisa won.

>>180470597
Post that pic

>>180470974
Because you lethal with roach off of bolt anyway.
Every forest deck is a roach deck.

>>180469846
Storm Tea Time with Aegis

Do forestfags ever stop complaining?

It's not enough.
Elf scum must suffer more.

>>180470974
Because it's very slow and has no draw to draw into its wincon

>>180470974
bolt sucks
>muh 18 damage turn 9

you really need luck to pll that shyt off if you don't you just deal 9dmg when other cards can do better at trun 9

roach is more consistent during mid to late game goblin mage can search it there are a lot of return cards the whole deck is roach focused exept white wolf and bolt

Dummies guide on fixing Forestcraft

Roach Princess
6 pp: 1/1 storm, fill your hand with roaches until your hand is full

Roach Queen
8 pp: 1/1 Storm
Change all Roaches in your hand to the spell Roach Burst

Roach Burst
1 pp deal three damage to an enemy, gains one more damage every card you play per turn

Deeproach Roachality
8 pp: 1/1 storm. If this follower attacks the enemy leader you win the match.

Black Roach of Roachwood:
8 pp: 4/4 Rush/Storm. Last Words: pull a roach from your deck, make it cost 0, and give it +19/+19.

>>180471202
Do havenfags ever stop complaining?

>>180471294
i am dying

>>180471294
>rush/storm
what does this even mean

>>180471294
You are joking but cygames actually didn't give forest any win con other than roach.

>>180471340
No. Not until every one of their follows have a banish + heal fanfare and last word. Only Haven players are allowed to have a board. Everyone else gets a banish.

>>180471294
so fun XD

>>180471294
what about

roachfuckboi

4pp 3/3 gain storm and 1+1 everytime an allied follower comes into play

>>180471604
>Worse reaper

Nah.

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>>180471127

>>180471202
>4% playrate
They have the right.

what if Oracle heals you 1 hp and 2 if overflow?

>>180471708
Throw the snow white out of there and put in the new birb summoner or a neutral 2pp follower in there

>>180471852
What if you fuck off and kill yourself if overflow?

what if Elana gave you one empty play point orb

All forest needs to be viable is a way to give Anomaly storm or a way to protect Anomaly for a turn.

>>180471484
Maybe because they already have like 4

>>180471852
Nah. Dragon just need a 1PP legendary
>1PP 1/2
>Fanfare: draw a card if overflow is active for you
>Last word:Gain an empty playpoint orb

>>180471852
>More heals
Dragon did not deserve healings more than 2hp

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>>180471730
Subaarashii

>>180471960
Ancient forest dragon

>>180471943
but it's dragon
15 hp heals sometimes it's not enough

>>180471982
>win con

>>180472054
Can't play both on the same turn.

>People actually, truly, HONESTLY, believe
>That Wonderland dreams is going to stop the midrange shadow menace

>>180472110
>Crash white wolf
>Get one of them for free

?

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HEH

>>180472110
Wolf.

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59316

please concede

>>180469846
Dark Alice, definitely. Especially with that 2-cost amulet revealed, although I doubt the SMT fusion thing will see play since you have to Looking Glass it

>>180471960
All it needs is more combo cards with viable effects that cost at least 4pp so you have to choose between those now or roach later.

Play 2 cards to win a shitty ward doesn't detract from the Roach, it's hardly worth it to use any fairies for anything other than it.

>>180472054
>Thermis
>Any ward
>Roland
>Bahamut
>Eachtar
>Any bane
>Anything
>And brick

>>180472096
Are you dumb or what

>>180471960
>>180472054
Just play Anomaly, Ancient Forest Dragon, Liza and Vist in the same turn bro.

>>180472153
Midrange is overrated.
It's disgusting if you get a good hand but average if you don't draw Hector.
It's like a more consistent but overall worse Dorothy.