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Go ahead I'll be back at camp playing with my virtual pet

>Monster Hunter: World
-MH:World revealed for PS4 and Xbox One early 2018, and eventually PC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-RAeDfOMM
↳Information with sources: https://pastebin.com/TRFRGFn1
↳Livestream 6/20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKE9iVz-Ig#t=34m

>News
-Monster Hunter XX Nintendo Switch Ver. confirmed for 8/25 in Japan, region free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvzTD_RYDXs
↳No current plans for XX localization "at this time". https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/875133030326652928
-Monster Hunter Stories is coming West this fall.

>I have a question!
https://pastebin.com/7Aa6HxUh
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.

http://mhgen.kiranico.com/
Database with weapon trees, item locations, drop rates, etc.

https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex
Same thing, in application form.

>Where does /vg/ play?
Create or find a Gathering Hall
Passcode: 7243
In XX, ターグット: Gathering フィールド採集 (page 1, middle right)
In Generations, Objective: Gathering
In 4U, Target: Fishing

Tags: MHWorld, MHXX, MHGen, MH4U, MH3U, Stories, MHO, MonHun, /mhg/

Previous thread >>180400059
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>Hot/Cold Drinks
Defend this.
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>>180439925
add 6 to the Japanese demo release date.
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MHW is going to be fun!
But frankly, since the reveal, the more info they give us the less hyped I get.
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>>180440025
>prowlers dont need cold drinks
explain
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To that guy who recmmened Hunterverse. THANK YOU! It actually works fine.
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>>180440162
what the fuck is hunterverse anon?
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>>180439929
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>>180440290
Basically a platfrom where you can play online with other players through PPSSPP. Currently playing FU, connection seems stable enough. Did one hunt with one guy just now.
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>>180440127
The fur protect them from cold and hot.
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>>180440348
thanks
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>reach Dreadqueen VI
>all lobbies are filled with HR5~6 people that can't even join that quest
I just want to reach X, why does it have to be so hard
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MHW trailer was in the top 10 trailers of E3 overall. Game is going to be the best game in the series.
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>>180440597
Just solo it! You can do it anon!
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15th for there's no escape from Monkey Hunter
The Obi will return to latch itself onto people's clownsets once more
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Monster Hunter 5 leaked
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>>180440947
Capture quests ain't what they used to be...
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>>180440738
My friends and I are so stoked! Finally! A MH game we can play on a tv and not worry about hand and neck cramps!
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How does the Sheathing skill interact with Brave?
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>>180440806
I hope they trash the skills of that set so that I never have to see that gaudy yellow EVER again
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Just killed Barroth , first time really playing Monhun , and I'm playing 3U on Wii U; been using great sword the whole game but I switched up for a poison long sword

How the fuck do I get better with LS? What the hell is that little meter under my health now? How do the combos work? Got carted for the first time on Barroth using this piece of shit

I curb stomped him right before this using my Vulcanis. Should I go back to just using GS? Should I try a new weapon out? What do y'all think?

Bout to take on Gobul for the first time ever, any clever advice

I suck nigger dicks at this game
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>>180441102
You gay, son?
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Helmet visibility toggle
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Got a 4U room open if anyone is interested. Got my ass handed to me by Chameleos.
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>>180441187
Go and craft yourself some clothes, Hunter. You disgrace the Guild with your conduct.
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>>180441102
It's gold.
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A sequel to >>180440597

>create my own lobby
>two people forget cold drinks
>faint twice each to the bleed+poison+heat (someone had insurance)
>quest failed

I JUST WANT TO FINISH THIS LINE, FUCK
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>>180441102
>he doesn't like wearing yellow
virgin fashion detected
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Is there a way I can hug a monster instead of killing it?
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65-8806-0997-5540
Release me from this nightmare that is Dreadqueen, it's impossible to play this with randos
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>>180439929
>Shakas will never return
Why live?
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>>180441758
Back when everyone was playing Hot Monkey Dick 4U I saw constant complaints in the general about how it had such good skills on it but mixed horribly with everything. Now people love it, apparently.
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Thanks Ghostwrite for carrying me through some G-rank.

4U Room is still open for any takers for another hour.
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>>180442459
Scratch that, 3DS is dying.
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So what exactly is the role of a switch axe? What do you aim for?
I'm playing P3rd and switching between hammer and SA, and while I can really easily figure out what to do with the hammer (and as a result when I'm doing well or not), with switch axe I just feel like I should just be attacking the monster non stop and be in sword mode for as long as possible without having to reload.
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>>180443705
pure dps and mindless fun
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>>180443705
yeah that's pretty much it, you just mash attack with switch axe
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Check your map, doodle!
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>>180444439
>short hait
CUTE
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>>180444475
>hait
i meant hair
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>>180444439
New guild babe is cute, I hope we see more of her
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>>180443705
Charge Blade is what switchaxe was supposed to be.

Lots of little mechanics and options that let you deliver lots of damage combinations and also having the versatility of movement.

But SwitchAxe ended up being" >Buff yourself with everything. Get into sword mode and spam X

Its even more braindead with hunter arts because you dont even need axe. Ode to reload. Just reload with the hunter art
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>>180444918
>give axe mode decent movement speed
>make each attack recover more gauge
>make each sword attack deplete more gauge
>make gauge not recover over time, remove reload, and remove needing to have more than half gauge to switch to sword mode

fixed your weapon senpai, you're welcome
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When?
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>>180444594
>>180444475
guys, her face is fucking ugly
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>>180445290
>her face is not anime
ftffy
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Does someone want to give me a hand with G Ballfuck's urgent?
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>>180445290
It looks fine.
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>>180445290
weeb detected
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>>180445401
I'll help if you don't mind waiting a few minutes. In a Rajang event hunt at the moment.
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>>180445375
>>180445417
>>180445447
gay
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>>180445525
Sure, i'll set up a room
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>>180445570
>>180445525
65-1718-6609-2111 with the normal password
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>>180445546
Not as gay as your opinion.
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>>180445702
way gayer, faggot.
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What is it about hellblade quests that make small monster super aggressive? They are beta orbiters to their fucking death in every area.
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>>180445152
>Water Cannon Brute Wyvern
Very interesting idea indeed!
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>>180445525
Thanks. I managed to solo up to there but I'm not good enough to deal with it without making new armor.
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>>180446508
No problem. I'm still rusty against Valfak so it was good practice for me.
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>>180446592
The wing spin always gets me, at least it doesn't do much damage.
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>>180446610
Same here. You have to superman dive through that one most of the time.
Rarely do you just happen to be in a good spot to not get dinged by it.
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>>180446731
I just don't like it in general. Now to struggle making an end of G set.
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Can you soft reset for melding, or does it have to be before the quest you do that processes the meld?
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>>180445152
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Even nippon cuties are considering buying mhw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbhD9FjLU2k
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>>180447930
>EEEH
>EEEEEEH
>EEEEEEEEEEEEH

>close video
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Is there something I'm missing as a gunner? I've got critical distance down and where I'm supposed to hit, but it seems like these TAers are just doing considerably more damage than me in fewer shots.
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>>180447930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-NgHh36_vU
provides similiar amount of information
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>>180447930
She's cute but this is just the opinion of one person who kind of seems to be a scrub anyway. Was hoping it'd be more of a video looking at actual message boards and all that shit
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I don't know what to do when blademastering Gammoth. I can't see shit. Worst monster design ever.
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I'm trying to play a bit with Dreadqueen's set on MHX and I need someone with more experience than me here

Consider the Dreadqueen set + Deathprize as the weapon, replacing the headgear with Sword Saint Earrings for automatic Mind's Eye

Then, considering a perfect Blunt +6 Dreadqueen +2 OOO talisman, it would fill up Dreadqueen for the headgear, while Blunt would reach +10 with the help of a few jewels (A Blunt Jwl 2 for +3 Blunt in Deathprize and a Blunt Jwl 1 for +1 in the talisman)

The main problem here is that, without the headgear, Crit Status only reaches +8 and Critical Eye only reaches +12. Crit Eye can go to +15 with an Expert Jwl 2 on the talisman, but that still leaves Crit Status out there

What should I do? Focus the talisman on supplying what the headgear lacks and throw away the Blunt idea? What other combination of talisman and jewels could be used here?
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>>180448704
attack legs basically, head when it's down/staggered

Have fun trying to mount it without bugstick/aerial style though

Really, just get a bowgun or something, Pierce round fuck his shit right up
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>>180448564
>>180448643
>>180448751
Thanks for these anon, very interesting to read.
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>>180448704
Gammoth is basically one of the simplest monsters, but he's also annoying because of that simplicity.
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>>180447930
>cuties
She's fugly. You need better taste.
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>>180449168
>he
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>>180450003
>has
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>>180450046
>no
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when?
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are there any actually good MH youtube channels that I could watch to learn how to git gud ? Doens't need to have any guides or any commentary either, just some speed kills or something of this sort is enough
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>>180450359
Pretty much most nip speed kill solo videos.
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>>180450359
Gaijin "Put The Her in Striker" Hunter
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Is this as good as it gets for Aerial?
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>>180448751
>literally my arguments for realism and against transmog
lel
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>>180450731
>is no crit meme good
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>>180448751
>By tossing in a fantasy-themed creature into this "realistic" world, it really makes the Kirin stand out.
Huh.
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>>180451041
Rly mks me fink
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>>180439929

if cats got their mafumofu armor in MHW, I hope hunters get them as well
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>>180451945
>It's revealed you can actually pick your town
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>>180451945
Snowy mountains map confirmed?
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>>180451967

I doubt it, but I just hope the town is as comfy as Pokke is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__QdAxqBi5Y

>>180452016

It's a new continent, so all brand new areas. Legacy maps might comer later as DLC or some shit
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So the other granny obviously has her sale inventory in hers, but what does the cat granny have in her enormous backpack?
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>>180450072
That's horrifying.
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>>180452108
cat food, clothes and toys?
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Monsters have no feelings
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>>180452108
a Rath penis
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>monster hunter world
>it's open world now!
>it's actually just the individual maps being 1 big zone now instead of multiple smaller zones
>it's still gonna be lobby based instanced play
Monster hunter open world sandbox mmorpg when?
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>>180452378
Careful there, bud
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>>180452378
>not MH when?
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>do you know my favourite part of MH
>walking to the monster instead of fighting it
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>>180452373
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>>180452378
>it's open world now!
>it's actually just the individual maps being 1 big zone now instead of multiple smaller zones
>it's still gonna be lobby based instanced play
You memed yourself into believing that. Your mistake.
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>>180452378
MH cooking game when?
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>>180452057
I'm guessing the town is just going to be a port village to be honest. I'm hoping they go hard on the whole "new world" vibe and make our hunter home a big sailing frigate in a colonial harbor.

Plus they could just sell new expansion areas by having you sail to them.
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>>180452496
Why can't monster hunter have a huge open world where you can freely hunt monsters without having to go on a quest? Tri's moga woods where you could free roam was the one thing I really liked about it. Just walk out the village and go gather stuff wild beating on random wildlife and monsters. It was comfy. No quest needed no time limit, just walk around doing stuff.
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>>180452669
It wasn't open and had a spawn limit, MHW is nothing like it.
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>>180452614
>You memed yourself into believing that. Your mistake.
Except that was what they advertised the game to be. An open world monster hunter. Except their definition of open world is different from what the standard definition of an open world game means.
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>>180452736
no, that's what shitposters said
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>>180452259
STOP
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>>180452669
>lwalking around for hours after you drunk all your psycho drugs
no
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>>180452704
>It wasn't open and had a spawn limit, MHW is nothing like it.
That's exactly my point. It was an idea they could've expanded on in MHW.
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>>180452736
>Except that was what they advertised the game to be. An open world monster hunter
No they did not, it was said only that there would be no more loading screens. Retards then shitposted nonstop about the "open world meme".
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Open World!!!!!!!!
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>>180452803
But anon, we hunt monsters all the time.

It's kill or be killed out there in nature.
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>>180452809
>not wanting to have some sense of exploration in MH
Where's your sense of adventure? The world and lore supports it, they just need to implement it. I would honestly rather see new features like this that expand on the existing MH world instead of obnoxious shit like scoutbugs being annoying on your screen.
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>>180452974
You can only explore once.
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>>180452924
Do we really HAVE TO kill espinas and Basarios?
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>>180453008
Yes
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>>180452974
If I want that I go play breath of the wild.
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I don't know how damage works in this game

Comparing two Dual Blades, the Light Sword Cypher X (180 ATK, 0% Affinity) vs Garuga Gunsen (170 ATK, 24 Poison, 35% Affinity)

On normal hits ,the Cypher does more damage, but the Gunsen has 65% of crit if I have Critical Eye +20 vs only 30% of the Cypher, so in a weapon that hits a lot like the DB, the Gunsen has the edge here, right?

As for the poison damage, it's not added damage like regular elements, right? It's "as soon as it hits x damage, it'll poison the monster"? I'm not sure, this game is hard, please explain
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>>180452974
>lore

gb2 /dsg/
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HOT
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>>180453251
>implying MH doesn't have lore
Do you even read the books?
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>>180453296

I don't play MH for lore you cretin.
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>>180453296
>having to go to a source outside of the game for lore
just as bad as dark souls t b h
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>>180453226
I'm fairly sure the garuga fans require S+1/2 you're better of with strider DB.
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>>180453296
It doesn't have lore. What passes for it is just concept art that has no relevance to the games themselves.
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>>180452920
is this actually MHW map ?
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>>180453438
No.
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>>180453438
Yes, it's a map of the Monster Hunter world.
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>>180453226
Affinity is the chance to do +25% damage (or -25% in the case of negative affinity) on any given hit. Thus 35% affinity is just under a 9% damage boost.
Status is applied with a 1/3 chance on any hit and wears off slowly over time. Once enough status is applied, the effects of the status actually happen (damage for poison/blast, paralysis, etc). The amounts of damage and the amount of status that needs to be applied varies based on the monster.
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>>180453349
>>180453362
>>180453401
I'm talking about the books ingame in your room about monsters and the maps.
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>>180453438
no this is
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>>180453226
>I'm not sure, this game is hard, please explain
Learn math. The damage formulas are all about math.
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>>180453612
i hope you can toggle off the tunnels or paths or whatever
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>>180453612
>"Waah! So confusing!"
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Can I get Garuga wings from the meownster hunters or do I have to go hunt that shitty autistic bird?
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>>180453612
>this is somehow a self evident argument for the map being bad
looks like it's exactly what it is, a dense forest with open areas

having multiple ways to get to the same place is not somehow bad or convoluted
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>>180453589
So a 9% damage boost over the Cypher would put the Gunsen at 185ish ATK, but like >>180453387 said, the white on the Cypher more than makes up for it. Also, Poison without Crit Status doesn't seem that good

I guess I'll stick with the Cypher
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>>180453612
All they had to do is rehash 3U without bringing the garbage from 4thGen...
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>>180453008
Espinas is snoring loudly and disturbing local wildlife whereas basarios makes lots of holes to sleep in and is destroying the terrain

So yeah we need to think the population
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>>180451000
The weapon I'm using has 0% affinity
I can get Critical Eye +3 instead of Attack Up (M), not sure if it's worth it with no affinity
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>>180454007
*Thin the population

I blame fast fingers
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>>180453969
>Poison without Crit Status
What the fuck are you talking about? You should NEVER use poison with status skills.
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>astroturfing isn't real
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>>180454107
>Skills that increase abnormal status attack potency (Poison, Paralysis, Sleep) when landing a critical hit.
I don't get it
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>>180454121
Watch out we got Conan over here
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Aubergines don't kill people
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>>180454173
First, they're pretty bad for normal status, second, you can apply the second poison while the first one is in effect.
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>>180454121
>it has to be bots!
>there's no other explanation for it!

Might as well say everything else is bots too. They do know likes are faked all over the place as well right?
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>>180454121
i personally am responsible for a big chunk of this
i have 20 virtual machines refreshing the page every 10 seconds

its a waste of power, but MHW is going to need all the help it can get
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>>180454121
>their opinion of a mean is not representative of the thing they're testing
lmao, amateur statistics is so cringey
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>>180454296
I can imagine you're retarded enough to do this.
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>>180454121
Regardless of the picture there.

Everybody knows shills and so on are real. But no company would shill MH on 4chan.
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>>180454263
But why is Dreadqueen armor so good, then?
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>>180454829
it's not
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>>180453967
>this is somehow a self evident argument for the map being bad
Not that guy but are you retarded? He never made an argument about the map being bad. He just posted a map to answer the previous poster's question. What is wrong with you?
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>>180454875
if you haven't been here the last few days, that's what it has meant every time
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>>180441123
>How the fuck do I get better with LS?
Practice. And don't use poison.
>What the hell is that little meter under my health now?
It's your spirit gauge. Not sure how Wii U controls work, but every time you use an X or A attack you'll build meter. The higher the meter is, the more moves you'll be able to use in your R combo. If you manage to pull off a full R combo and hit with the final attack, then your gauge will upgrade in colour. It goes from white, to yellow, to red. Each tier gives you a larger and larger damage boost to every attack.
>How do the combos work?
X,X,A,X,X,A,.... Is your standard infinite combo. Use this to build up your meter.
R,R,R,R, Is your spirit combo. Does a lot of damage and if you hit with the final attack it'll upgrade your colour. Each hit consumes your meter though, so you'll need to have a lot in order to get the full combo.
Note that you can chain an X attack between the first two hits of the combo, (as in R,X,R,X,R,R) if you need extra meter, but this will of course make the combo take longer so you'll need an even larger opening to pull it off.
X+A will perform a fade slash, which will quickly attack then make you jump backwards, which is useful for dodging attacks. You can fit this anywhere in your standard combo.
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You guys know of any fun LR armor sets for Generations? I don't really want to go around using BuJaBuJaBu. I'm a hammer guy, if that helps.
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>>180454615
you're dumb if you think shilling doesn't happen on 4chan, but it definitely doesn't happen in the form of shitposting on /vg/ generals, it takes the form of threads started on /v/ with links to videos of ad material and cautious sounding endorsements.
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>people think there are shills here
no, the people here do it for free
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>walk up to a gathering node
>it vanishes before my very eyes
why does the game do this?
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>>180454121
What's astroturfing?
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>>180440947
In the end, we are the real monsters.
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>>180455223
/mhg/'s hot new favorite buzzword
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>>180454918
I think you're just paranoid and reading too much into it.
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>>180455223
it's the kiddies' new favorite word! It's really fun. You see, whenever anyone has a different opinion than you, you just start complaining about all the shilling and astroturfing going on.
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>>180455156
Back in my day, we had fixed gathering points that are hard to find
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been wanting to get into MH for years now but i ain't about the handheld life until i got a switch

MHW comes out in early 2018 for consoles eh?

what's the best most fucking stylish weapon there is to master

idc if it's shit, i want to kill dinosaurs with flair and style.
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>>180454992
>you're dumb if you think shilling doesn't happen on 4chan

Yeah for games with more than 2 people on the fence whether they should buy or not.
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>>180455429
Insect Glaive most likely. Never used it, but it's the flippiest weapon there is in the game. Of course GOTCHA BITCH Greatsword is good too.
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>>180454180
But they snore so loudly it disturbs my sleep!

They must be killed!
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>>180455429
Insect Glaive maybe Charge Blade. They were the newly introduced weapons and it shows.

>IG

Jumpan, back flippan, spinnan and cute bugs
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>>180455429
DS probably
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>>180455497
>Insect Glaive
no idea what that is, but everyone knows that bugs are neat as fuck

>GOTCHA BITCH Greatsword

i need to do some actual research on this game now

thanks for the info anon godspeed and goodluck on your hunt
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>>180455270
>>180455313
Okay but that still doesn't tell me what it means.
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>>180455429
The coolest and shittiest weapon is the gunlance. It's exactly what it sounds like. You stab monsters and then explode them with cannonfire.
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>>180455635
>Jumpan, back flippan, spinnan and cute bugs
fuck yeah

rollin this whenever the game launches i am not even going to research because SPOILERS

thanks guys, hope to see you again on the hunting grounds.
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>>180455659
Coulda just googled.

Postings ads, sponsored content or just positive things masking it that it looks like that it comes from real users.
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>>180455429
sns:
most stylish
most versatile
most mobile
good for E V E R Y T H I N G
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>>180455659
It's a stupid made up word, same with "whitewashing" (it used to mean censored but no eh). It's kinda like damage control of sorts except it's paired up shilling. You can expect just shitposting if either of those words come up.
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>>180455816
Save for one thing.
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>>180455783
you know it's not coming out on switch right
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>>180455816
E-everything?!
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>>180454121
Holys shit, I was gonna post this too. Definitely hitting the mhworld twitter with this.

I was right from thr beginning. Fuck Crapcom
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How the fuck do I play ranged weapons solo?
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>>180455976
git gud
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>>180455807
>>180455842
>Coulda just googled.
Ah that's right. I just assumed it was some new 4chan meme. Thanks fellas.
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>>180455959
except doing damage
>>180455976
>dodge attack
>shoot
>dodge attack
>shoot
>dodge attack
>shoot
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>Hayabusa Feather is considered one of the best pieces of gear in the game
>can be replaced by a +10 expert OOO talisman
>no need to try to recoup the lost points of your headgear via jewels
I don't get it
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>>180455959
E V E R Y T H I N G

basically the best
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>>180455976
>If gun
Stand around like an idiot and roleplay as a discount Bastion.
>If bow
Pause every now and then like an idiot and spend 20 minutes trying to kill a monster.
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>>180454992
The only shilling that happens on 4chan is some indiedev trying to get you to buy his shitty game. Big companies have absolutely nothing to gain from doing it in a thread like this with only 50 ips. Even on /v/ the largest threads only hit 100-200 ips, with the average being around 50 as well. That's nowhere near worth it when for the same amount of money you could advertise on Twitter or Youtube and reach literally tens of thousands of people. It's probably even less money spent per bot actually, since on Youtube and Twitter you only need to program a bot to click the like/retweet button rather than actually paying a human being to write posts on 4chan.

Every "obvious shill" you see on 4chan is just a troll getting a rise out of paranoid idiots like you.
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Is it possible for a monster to not spawn ?
Im doing lr2 (4u) gypceros kill quest on steepe, i've in literally every area, checked on kiranico where his fight starts, went there few times and didnt find him
I spent 10 minutes looking for him already
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Speaking of shills, here comes the Tencent employee
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>>180445152
funny, the one one the right looks like a retrace of an owlbear from 3rd edition dnd monster manual
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>>180456382
>shilling chinese game in english forum
Nice try but you need to work on your deflection game, Sonyshill.
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>>180456419
no it doesn't

the pose is the only thing that matches
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>>180456419
Get your eyes fixed
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>>180455961
>owns a truckload of garbage
>believes garbage
huh
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>>180456419
>I started playing DnD today, look at everything being DnD, I wish everything was DnD
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>>180456410
>>180456514
>>180456623
Ironically looks like a chinese imitation, and I can't even figure out why
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>>180456589
>3rd edition
>today
u wot m8? I'm running a 2nd ed game one weekends, man.
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>>180456746
Woah you're so badass, can I have your autograph?
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>>180456804
sure thing man, glad to see a you whippersnapper like you can give proper respect to a grandpa like me
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>>180454960
Thanks a bunch my dude that's very useful info; just now reading your reply like 6 hours later but you helped mea lot. I'm not really crazy about looking up video guides on YouTube , I'd rather just get the fundamentals and experiment
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>>180456674
It's not MHW
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>>180456306
>one of the heaviest looking armors in the game
>still gotta get that ZR in
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>Playing monster hunter generations with some guy from my discord
>He played tri village, and that's it
>He's newer, I give a little advice, he's appreciative
>He's using switch axe
>Walking around 100 yards from the monster in sword mode
>Not doing fuckin any damage
>Can't cut Royal Ludroth's tail, at all (???)
>I'm basically doing all the work
>Don't say anything, this guy is probably very rusty, and basically a total newbie to boot
>Gotta give him time
>Ever single fight, without question, he sort of passively suggests that he's the one doing all the work
>"Wow, I guess you do most of the damage to (monster) from (his position)
>"I was basically whaling on him the entire time, never interrupted"
>I get off big damage shit on the monster, pretty much obliterating whatever part I'm working on
>"Did you see that! Man, I'm kickin it's ass" (Just taking credit for shit that I'm doing)
>I'm just kind of confused, because I'm right there doing fucking everything, it's not possible to miss this
>He's straight up misses his big damage shots, then claims that they hit, trying to take credit for doing all the leg work
>Not only is he a newbie, but he's got little dick syndrome
>Just ignore it, keep giving him advice and trying to get him proper armor because he's wearing clown suits with 0 skills on them

I've only played with him for like 6 hours total but he kind of gets on my nerves. Being a total newb is fine but acting like hot shit while sucking is just confusing. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he was maybe just raised poorly. Maybe I can guide him to not be a total shitter
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So seriously question, which is better MH frontier or MH online? and what's the difference between them?
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>>180457345
b-but damage nubmers is a bad idea!
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>>180456306
Is this from the MMO, or what?
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>>180457345
>discord
Stopped reading right there.
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>>180457363
>better
hard to say, they diverge quite a bit, frontier for pure gameplay and online for not looking like trash

the difference between them is that frontier is cuhrazy and MHO tries and fails to introduce new mechanics
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>>180457428
>implying shitters won't just be spamming attacks anywhere they can even if they can see damage numbers
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They're not gonna remove oils like they will styles and arts, right?
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>>180457345
>discord
>playing personally with people you don't know that are also shit and annoying
you yourself also sound shit and annoying
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>>180457647
I hope they do, fuck oils.
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>>180457647
Sorry pal, you've oiled it up for the last time.
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>>180457669
I have a discord with people who play a lot of games together. There's like 50 of us, and not many people play Monster Hunter. A lot of them are cool, but this guy I barely interacted with was the only one who wanted to do a run of generations.
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>>180457647
oils are bandaids and should be removed
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>>180457647
I prefer the damage modifier to be *1.5 again
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Can anyone rec me a good blademaster armor set to get me through the low rank Moga v. shit in MH3U? Switching between LS GS and SnS currently
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>>180457647
SnS is going back to the cuckshed sorry anon.
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>>180457647
>being able to do damage with SNS
NOT intended
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>>180457345
It's called dunning-kruger, anon. Basically he's too stupid to realize how fucking stupid he is, and instead gets an inflated sense of his competence.
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>>180457647
I'll miss my oils.
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>>180457782
Cowboy Wroggi
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>>180457703
pls no

>>180457778
Didn't it just have higher sharpness?
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>>180457750
if your characterization is accurate it sounds like he either has literal autism and getting mad is pointless, or you played long enough with a faggot to make yourself mad and complain about it to others

why would my conclusion be anything but that you are are also a faggot?
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>>180457782
>[stupid story about a really bad armour you should totally use because - I - liked it]
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What's this shit about oils? Can you buff your weapons with resins in Mh? How
I
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>>180457957
I donno, man, you don't really sound like someone who's easy to get along with, yourself
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>>180457750
AFK in the middle of a hunt and let him see just how bad he is.
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>>180457896
Thanks comrade, seems a little weak defensively but it's easy set to make , off to grind in the flooded forest
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>>180458019
Kill mons until they drop a Gold Pine Resin.
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>>180455902
oh yeah i know, sorry that was misleading.

switch is my first handheld since a gameboy, but otherwise i'm an IDORT with everything else, probs picking up MHW for PS4 and PC whenever that happens.
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>>180458039
I mean, he's bad, I don't really need to test that hypothesis

>Start hunt
>He just stands stock still while I make it two areas over
>He's typing something to somebody
>Tell him where the monster is

>In the middle of a hunt
>Hear him typing on his mechanical keyboard as he stands still, 10 feet from the monster
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>>180458114
sticky white stuff > gold pine resin
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>>180458179
YOU don't have to test, he need to face a hunt on his own to realize he's shit.
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>>180457790
>>180457801
b..but it was decent in mh4, its going to be fine...right ?
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>>180458090
Razor Sharp is all you need for that shitty green sharpness early LS, and the set is good looking too.
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Why the bell couldn't they just port 4u to the WiiU, it can't be that difficult and expensive. Guess I'm stuck playing Tri ultimate until MHW drops
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>>180458212
I mean, he must already realize he's shit. He can't be that deluded. He's just trying to act like he's awesome, maybe.
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>>180458032
I have a mildly autistic "friend" I play with frequently. I just don't expect too much and blog to people about how bad he is
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Posted the shill image on reddit, Anywhere else?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/6itsww/ever_wonder_why_the_views_for_mhworld_trailer/
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>>180458365
upboated friend ;)
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>>180458356
This is a place for talking about monster hunter, man. Don't worry, I'm not your autistic friends blogging about you.
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>>180458365
>posted the shill image on reddit
how about you stay there and blog your retarded fantasies backed by poor statistics to your gay friends
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>>180458431
get a trip so I can filter your blog posts
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Now that it's confirmed Capcom is trying to create artificial hype around MHW and we know it'll bomb in Japan and ps4 dudes won't buy it cause it's not FIFA or CoD, where do we go from here?
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>>180458365
Alright, next you should go on reddit and post your stupid console war shit there. And only post it there from now on! And never ever come back here!
that'd be great
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>>180457778
me too grandpa! literally good for everything
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>>180458551
MHWG
>>
>wake up, first thing in the morning
>go on your computer and find /mhg/
>start shitposting with console war nonsense
what a sad life. It's a beautiful summer day. Don't you have any friends from school?
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>>180458547
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>/mhg/ doesn't want to be part of the historic MonsterHunterGate
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How much of a difference does like 20 points of defense really make

Is straight up defense worth a fuck in these games
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>>180458764
We don't believe you, nobody does. You have bias, and that's why you keep finding things leading to the conclusions you've already made
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>>180458942
you dont need defense if you never get hit
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>>180458957
well said /b/ro
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>>180458986
I get hit all time man

I'm pretty new though and I'm getting better and better
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expeditions are fun
I hope they come back
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>>180459287
My dad was fun
I hope he comes back from the gas station
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>>180459125
often the bigger hits will be mitigated better by resistances

if you're newer to the game, eating for double element will prevent effects and prevent you from taking the more massive hits. It also doesn't require new armor
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>>180459287
expeditions were poorly implemented
I hope they've learned their lesson and only bring it back if they aren't shit
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>>180459436
What was poorly implemented? The only problem I had with them was guild quest rarity
[basarios intensifies]
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>be the guy in charge of weapon balance in the MH dev team
>"hey maybe after all these years I should balance elemental damage so that there's a reason to craft more than a handful of final GS considering our designers did great work and gave us over ONE HUNDRED paths to go down and final weapons to craft"
>"actually, nahhhh, too lazy"
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>>180459793
surely this time they'll make elemental damage worth a shit
Surely!
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>20+ hunts and still no Seregios Lens
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>>180459891
I have the autismo and have to craft every single hammer

I know this feeling
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>>180459793
>>180459891
I wouldn't mind them revamping the whole elemental system into something else.

Match monster to element = more damage is a really boring system to me.

I'd prefer noticeable hunt changing effects that you would use because of the monster's behavior.
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>>180460158
the problem is with half the weapons matching the monster to the element is just never worth it
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>>180459793
>What? A usable element GS? You're fired
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>>180458365
You should also go and stay go.
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>>180459891
>>180460090
>>180460158
>>180459793
The funny is that it's not even HARD to come up with a good system here.

raw = all purpose
elemental = slightly better if used against a monster weak to that element

bam, it's that simple. On almost all monsters bringing the ideal weapon should mean you get a benefit. You go out of your way to craft some dumb thunder gs? You get rewarded for it by doing a bit better against a monster weak to thunder.
Why should one raw sword be best across all fights?

Give all the final weapons and designs that your colleagues put work into a purpose. Make people craft more weapons if they want slightly better results. Make people hunt more varied monsters. So many reasons.
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>>180460234
This
>Get 20 element
>Sharpness drops to blue
>Raw dropped by 40
>+50 defense so you can remove the slots because "balance"
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>>180454121
It's being advertised actively on youtube dumbass, of course a bunch of people are going to watch the trailer who only have a passing interest.
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>>180460158
>I would prefer a vastly more complicated and harder system to implement than classic rpg rock paper scissors
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>>180460328
it would be easy. just add elemental motion values the way they already do for KO and exhaust

done
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>>180460328
literally all they'd have to do is make elemental damage apply on every hit and respect motion value
That's it! You probably wouldn't even have to adjust the stats.
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>>180460328
It's even worse with bows
Every game is literally "craft this one bow, forget all the rest"
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>>180460530
It's even easier, don't destroy a weapon's stats because it has Element.
Done.
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>>180460234
If they had effects like sleep instead of damage that problem wouldn't exist in the first place though.

I'd rather have ice slow or maybe stop certain parts of a monster for a bit and maybe it has some neat uses instead of more damage. Just as a random example.
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>>180460653
inb4 fire has a chance to deal extra damage and is always the top choice
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>>180459287
I hope they add more relic weapon and armor skins for endgame grinding.
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>>180460748
At the very least a really in-depth relic system means a lot more skins see use

maybe weapons should have transmog as well
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>>180460828
>maybe weapons should have transmog as well
I wouldn't go that far. I liked trading/sharing guild quests between players to get the quests which give weapons/armor skins that you want.
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>>180460591
It is pretty fucking dumb how few bows actually benefit from load up because it fucking changes the shot type and makes your Shot Up skill useless. It's such an easy fix.
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>>180460946
It was rather limited though in 4U, only a few skins really
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For Generations, does anyone have a link to images for the weapon trees, rather than Kiranico's ugly trees that are hard to parse? Something like this, but for generations. I'm about to make my own but figured I should ask before spending two hours doing it
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>>180461001
That's why I say they should add more skins, just no transmog, that would be too easy.
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>>180461034
>doing it
>he wants to waste his time to make such a useless picture
gg
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>>180460946
>maybe we should throw more bandaids into the game
no
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>>180461034
im very interested to see how it could be layed out without looking like shit. with the leveling/upgrading system in gen youll have a base weapon with like five branches coming off of it, and each of those branches will have two or three branches
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>>180460328
But then there's literally no reason to use raw past early game.
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>>180461567
Maybe a basic spreadsheet? Or images saved with the snipping tool and ported to a spreadsheet? One page for each tree, maybe.
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>>180461621
Raw would be best against a few monsters at best, and "all around good" against others.

I'm not talking huge differences anyway, you could always just make your raw gs and be done with it. But if you wanted to shave off that extra bit of time on your hunts you'd be rewarded for going out of your way to make some fire/lightning/etc. gs as well.

Right now, raw is simply too good and there's no reason to use or care for anything else. Because the balance is shit.
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Assuming I have a +5 Sharpness +10 Attack OOO talisman, what's the best combination of Lodestar and Silver Sol?
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>>180462018
use the ass
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>>180462018
how hard is it to count to 10 a few times? see which pieces look best in which slots and adjust for points from there
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What could have we done to stop this?
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>>180462307
my favorite part of this comic is the lack of self awareness showing the two butthurt bing wahoo fags getting mad despite not buying anything

if that was on purpose it's brilliant
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so hot drink / cold drinks have been removed

now a hot area will slow your stamina regeneration/health regeneration speed by 30%
your health depletes slower than before without cool drink, you cannot die from this damage

cold areas slow your movement speed slightly and increases your stamina gauge decrease time. cold areas increase your stun gauge increase 25%
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>>180462307
Kill Capcom execs and give their money to the programmers that actually play the game.
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>>180462307
i have no idea what this is trying to represent

dumb analogy with shit art
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Why do people praise crit and shun Attack Up when Attack Up M gives +15 raw, the same as a weapon with 180 attack + 30% affinity
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>>180461247
What are you even talking about? The stuff I'm talking about you can already do in 4U. What I asked for is more relic skins. Do you even know what I'm talking about before you posted your reply?
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>>180462620
>hot area will slow regen
>your health depletes slower
what?
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>>180462932

>>180461247
meant for
>>180460828
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>>180459287

relic grinding with /mhg/ was fun as fuck, I miss it dearly to be honest
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>>180461567
Something like this?
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>>180462721
worst meme
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>>180463606
http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHGen:_Great_Sword_Weapon_Tree
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>>180463901
Thank you anon
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>>180462869
crit gets the spotlight in gen because of critboost

attack up is better if you dont have critboost
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>>180463957
>>180463901
But... these pages don't exist for the other weapons.

UGH!
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>>180464102
Forgot my link
http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHGen:_Hammer_Weapon_Tree
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>>180464102
use the dex then
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>>180464025
So something like this >>180450731 is better than switching up the same setup but with Critical Eye +2/3 instead of Attack Up?
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>>180464321
That set is garbage
>Stamina skills
>fucking MOUNTING
>Evade Extender
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>>180464468
>not answering the question
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>>180464507
>this set is garbage
>not an answer
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>>180463584
relic grinding fractured the community too much

separating which monsters work toward which type of weapon was a bad idea
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>>180464581
nice headcanon
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>>180464568
The question was if Attack Up was better than Critical Eye in that situation
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>>180464710
see>>180464025
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Is Mounting really that bad

Aerial is so much fun with friends
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>>180464321
not sure i understand the question, but yes, in an armor set where you have no critboost, 15points invested into attack will give you a better return than 15points invested into expert

this is true in gen which ends at highrank with weapons averaging around 200raw. in a g rank game where its not uncommon to see raw averaging around 300, expert becomes better

one more point of interest in gen is how easy it is to fit expert into a mix set because of the feather. just because 15 points might be more effecient in attack, its usually easier to get expert, which is still better than nothing, and easier to make combinations of skills with
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>>180454121
Capcom is buying pre-video adspace on youtube. It's why the MHGen promotional event quest videos have hundreds of thousands of views.
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>>180464673
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>>180464581
>because people didn't farm the same 5 monsters over and over
doing rotations was
>rajang
>shagaru
>rajang
>chameleos
>rajang
>teostra
>rajang
>deviljho
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>>180464581
>optional endgame content fractured the community

oh fuck off with your bullshit, turn rooms were open to all quests, be it LR or HR
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>>180464710
Get WE instead if you can't get attack up to L.
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>>180464889
Mounting is bad on Aerial GS because you HAVE to inflict mounting damage to deal damage at all, which means you'll mount too much.
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>>180464673
>>180464953
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>>180464468
>not liking the ranger set

bruh. its the comfiest
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What's the difference between guard up and guard?
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>>180464917
>>180464994
Got it, I'll take it into consideration when making new sets
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>>180465074
Sure, but don't ask about skills.
>>180465118
Guard Boost is literally THE most situational skill, Guard+1 is good in 4U, Guard+2 is overkill shitterbait you should only use on CB against Tigrexes and Teo, in 4U.
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>>180465118
guard up means you'll be able to block new attacks you couldn't before, like beams and whatnot

guard + means you use less stamina and get blown back less
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>>180465118
guard reduces the stamina, chip damage, and recoil from guarding

guard up allows you to block previously unblockable attacks, like some beam attacks
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>>180465118
Guard up allows you to block attacks that were unblockable before, guard just makes guarding take less stamina and shit.
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>>180465118
Guard up allows you to block attacks that were previously unblockable. Agnaktor's laser (I think?) is an example.
Guard + lessens stamina and allows you to block heavier attacks. There's a difference between heavy and unblockable attacks. The issue is you'll only know by doing research or by seeing what you can and cannot block.
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>>180465221
Do either of these affect attacks where the lance counter does not work?
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>>180465361
guard up does
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I'm using that Athena thing but it's not displaying sets that should be possible ingame

Did I do something wrong?
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>>180465361
Both, but you're better off not countering those.
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>people endlessly coming out of the woodwork to shit all over XX because muh styles and arts suck shit
>the flashy moves and added mobility of styles are the one thing getting added to MHW while any good things like transmog, prowler, oils, etc aren't
I hate Capcom
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>>180465570
Your imagination sounds like a weird place.
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>>180465570
>coming out of the woodwork
how new are you?
>the flashy moves are being added
no, the retarded particle effects and sheer amount of retarded bullshit isn't coming back
>mobility was ever complained about
no
>transmog
>prowler
>oils
>good things
kill yourself
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>>180465695
transmog, oils, and prowler are good things
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>>180465897
no, they aren't

transmog and oils are bandaids to fix their shit balance and prowler, besides being contrary to the rest of the series, should have been limited to strictly far worse than any of the weapons
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>>180465897
You going for the shit tastes championship?
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>>180465217
>aus
>airborne (not mounting)
>stam recovery
>5 slots
>600 def and all 0's in element resist

its pretty sweet

>>180465361
yes. both skills affect the counter. guard up lets you counter those previously unblockable attacks. guard is a bit harder to quantify. when you counter, if the attack is very strong you will not attack, only block. with the guard+ skill, the strength of attacks you are able to counter and attack thru increases. however, even with guard+2, there are still some attacks that the counter will not attack after

does that make sense?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13257345
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257345
http://www.strawpoll.me/13257345
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>>180466257
Stam recovery is useless and a waste of points, I know there's airborne but there's Mounting too.
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>>180466261
>I don't have an argument so I'll appeal to popularity instead
the state of today's fragile snowflakes
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>>180466334
>stam recover is useless
i play lance and i disagree
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>>180466257
I think I get it now. Guard seems like a much better skill to have. Thanks.
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>>180466043
>transmog
>armor balance
Here's 100 sets of armor, now make them all something people will want to use.
Once you have too many armors in a game, you hit a point where some won't see use, tansmog helps those models get some use.
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Can you guys stop flinging shit at each other and help me here >>180465485
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>>180466043
oh is it time for "transmog is a bandaid" retardation again?

lmao
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>>180465485
click charms and input the charm you have
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Any gun weapon is literally more I'M HELPING-tier than both the Horn and alchemy.
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>>180466413
You must be pretty fucking shit at lance, then.
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>>180465485
change your charm setting to use your charms or use up to two skill charms
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>>180465485
Possibly need to enable DLC in the settings?
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>>180466446
>once you have too many armors
not if they aren't just dps boosts

varying defenses and utility would only would allow for arguable balance while not making the player feel significantly punished for sacrificing the meta

removing or reworking jewels and talismans would go a long way as well

transmog is a last resort and leads to laziness, and in a game like MH transmog runs contrary to the intent of the game

>>180448751
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>>180466805
>>180466724
Oh ok, I thought it would give me all charm options with the default options
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>>180466637
>retardation
here, you might attempt comprehension more if they say it instead of me
>>180448751
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What hammers are worth using besides hellblade or tigrex?
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>>180467034
That only talks about where armor designs come from. Transmog lets you see those designs without sacrificing efficiency in a game where optimization is the end goal (for me personally, play for fun if you want).
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Just unlocked Hyper monsters. What am I in for? I've been forcing myself to use mainly chargeblade, but I'm starting to want to relapse back into just mainly using bow, like I did in 4U. Multiple weapons and only Bow has felt right for me.
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>>180455429
assuming you're looking for neato BB weapons, switch axe is one of the easiest, funnest places to start

all around tho you cannot go wrong, bowguns and maybe bow are the only weapons that are not infinitely satisfying. why do you think people put hundreds of hours into single weapons in any single MH title

you have full access to 1 of each weapon type at the start of the game to freely swap between and plenty of risk free ways to test them all that give you free noob loot. the beauty is that your endgame arsenal will include a couple dozen weapons, and if you're a real hunter, an ultra minmaxed set for each weapon. all freely changed between
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>>180467432
you honestly can't be this stupid

they considered extensively how armor designs reflect the flavor of the monster you got them from, and then you think running around with another monster thrown over them doesn't sacrifice anything

>optimization is the end goal
it's not

>without sacrificing efficiency
lol, the entire point I made was that it's a bandaid because instead of fixing this problem it hides it. The fact that you would have to sacrifice efficiency in the first place should be fixed

are you slow?
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>>180467638
Hp sponges that can seriously damage or outright one shot you if you get hit by a hyper body part
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>>180467638
You're in for annoying shit. They have changed or just new moves and do a significant amount of damage with them, both of which are fine, but they also have an inflated health pool.
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>>180467638
>What am I in for?
Double HP. Monsters also get special attacks with like quad damage that start with a red flash.
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>>180467792
>>180467823
>>180467914
Well that doesn't sound like fun.
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>>180468118
They're not fun and you'll have to kill a ton of them for end game stuff. Enjoy!
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>>180467770
>for me personally
You are an asshole buddy.
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>>180468854
I disregarded that because design of a game has nothing to do with you personally
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>>180468118
welcome to nu-monhun where the devs can't alter the gameplay at all for fear of screeching autists so they just add HP sponge monsters that instakill instead.
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>>180468691
Would you join me in killing them, after I reach a point where I think I won't be likely to die?
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>>180469106
Heck, I still die to them relatively often. It's hard not to when they make the fights last as long as they do.
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I think transmog is bad, here's why.
>previously had to choose between mixing and matching armor sets that may make you look fucking stupid if you want to minmax armor skills
>or just wear whatever looks cool with limited armor skills or none at all and be a little less effective but at least you don't look like a clown
>transmog
>now everyone have all the bestest armor skills while being able to wear whatever they want without a downside to it
I think if you want to look cool, there should be sacrifices to make and if you want to minmax like a scrub tryhard, you deserve to look like a clown.
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>>180469539
They could just increase the costs of transmogging.
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Will MH4 ever be in HD?
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>>180469641
or fix the actual problem and keep the feel of the game intact
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>>180468118
On the bright side, you can charge your HAs much faster if you hit Hypers' glowing parts.
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>>180469772
Or they could do both, transmogging isn't forced on you.
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>>180469715
Not in our cursed timeline
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i feel into the trap and my first weapon was SNS
now i literally cant use anything other than it and DB
should i just force myself and get bashed while trying to learn gs/hammer or is it fine ?
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>create a shitpost image
>ends up reposted on reddit by literally who who said he grabbed it from some discord

this is hilarious
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>>180469641
>costs of transmogging
No matter how costly they make it, it can still be easily grinded.
Transmogging shouldn't exist in MH. Having to make choices and dealing with the consequences is a part of what makes MH, MH. Now everyone will be able to look stylish while packing tryhard skills because there is no reason not to abuse the fuck out of it.
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>>180469827
I'm kind of annoyed hitting things with Energy Blade and then get retaliated before I can do a dodge, because the animation takes so long to finish, so I don't care much for more HA. Now I just sorta only use it when I've knocked it down or it is exhausted.
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>>180470082
Why are you on reddit?
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>>180470118
Kill yourself. Literally everything you say is wrong and garbage.

I'd much rather see people in 10 different cool armors despite them using tryhard ones than see the same silverlos etc. sets a million times on everyone

Not only that, but it also makes hunts for other monsters more active
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>>180470118
As opposed to everyone having the same cookie cutter armor builds. The real hassle is having to screen everyone to know what kind of skills they bring.
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>>180469843
it doesn't belong
glad it won't be in
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>>180470118
Why do you care so much about what other people are doing? This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Don't do it if you don't want to, you don't have to!!
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>>180470118
Why can't you just believe that the blacksmiths are so good that they made a way to merge traits of armors into other armors?
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>>180470285
>I'm autistic and have to know what skills other people have
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>>180470281
>i'd much rather seen people in 10 different sets
>so logically instead of wanted balance I'll advocate for transmog
mentally ill
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>>180470281
>>180470285
>tryhard scrubs not happy they have to choose between tryharding or looking cool
MH just keeps getting dumbed down to attract more dudebros these days.
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>>180439929
this game will fail so hard. How stupid is capcom to think that Monhun will do well on console???
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>>180470431
What's more likely to happen?

1. Capcom somehow balances all armor sets
2. Capcom lets you transmog armor
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>>180470328
>dumb down the game for casuals
>get an even more watered down MH every new entry
>why do you care dude?
Soon MH will add hitstun to every hit and the game will be about mashing buttons with your eyes closed.
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>>180470437
well, it's obious it's not gonna sell well in japan
but since it's also comming to pc it could do good sales in general
it's a gamble an capcom is taking the risk
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>>180470586
>transmog means the game is "dumbed down"
how moronic can you be

And I say this as a fashion hunter
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>>180470586
Wait, when did we start talking about difficulty? We were talking about transmogging.

What I want is for anti-transmoggers to just admit they don't like it because it's in XX.
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>>180470520
>all armor sets
strawman

it's likely they'll make some attempt and very unlikely the main team will have transmog

what's incredibly unlikely is that they'll take our opinions under consideration, so talking about it from an advocacy perspective is pretty autistic and retarded
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>>180470285
>I'm such a tryhard baddie that has to rely on minmaxing skills, I kick people who don't bring the optimum loadout otherwise we wouldn't be able to finish the hunt in time
This is you.
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>>180470520
You know that, even if they somehow manage to balance everything, people will gravitate towards the same stuff anyway.
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Only problem I have with transmog is how much of a band aid it is for the glaring problem of most armor sets being pointless
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>>180470708
>because it's in xx
I don't like it for the reasons above that remain undisputed, and the vision of the game put forth by the devs

transmoggerfags seem to be relatively newer players that don't care about anything other than gameplay, and think clownsuiting is worth catering to
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>>180470669
>>180470708
"Quality of life" improvements are a part of dumbing the game down. Previously you had to make a choice between tryharding or looking cool. It was a choice with consequence. Removing consequence, is dumbing the game down.
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>>180470432
Fuck that, this is pure Stormwind fallacy. If you really want to be the prettiest butterfly, at least bring something to the party. I don't see any reason for being intentionally a dead weight.
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>>180470750
not necessarily true and I've provided points that have again, remained uncontested

removing damage boosts would almost instantly solve the problem for instance
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>>180470854
The game would have to radically change at a core level for all of this to be any different.

I mean, if given a choice, a GS user is always gonna go for focus over "fire res up" or for quick sheathe over guard up

That's just how it is. People will always gravitate to the sets that are good. Now the trick is whether you're willing to go with comlete turd skills just to wear an armor you like visually or not.

I try to combine both. I try to find a middleground between looking good and having some skills I want. I welcome transmog.
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>>180470982
I think I heard the same trite argument on gameFAQs. Just to put it on perspective.
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>>180469827
woo
downside : all HA are shit and won't give enough damage
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>>180471017
>not having optimum armor skills means you're dead weight
Naw, player skill still counts the most for not being dead weight.
You could be wearing the best shit but if you can't dodge shit and keep getting hit, you're going to be doing less damage than someone else who can.
Sorry bud but having the best sets doesn't mean you aren't a dead weight.
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>>180471017
>dead weight
>marginally less dps
lol

this is exactly why transmogging is cancer in a game like this
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>>180471152
I don't post on their forums but they usually have the most accurate FAQ info made by usually top tier albeit elitist players. Everyone who has played MH since the very early games in the series, have gone to gamefaqs to get info from there at least once.
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>>180471115
>radically change
>literally remove talismans and go back to unite and before levels
RADICAL DUDE
>I welcome powercreep
good for you pleb
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>>180471235
How about we just completely separate skills from armor and make armor only about (elemental) defense and looks and all your stats come from completely separated charms or skill stones or something?
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>>180470982
>cosmetic change is the same as " mashing buttons with your eyes closed"

You're actually retarded, sorry.
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>>180471115
Would be nice if sets with shit skills got something like a minor attack up/expert to soften the blow at least
Like from a dev standpoint if you were to assign values to each skill and each set had similar amounts of "points" to spend the discrepancies would be fucking huge
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>>180471098
How would removing damage skills help? It's the same argument as people hating on purple sharpness because it was overcentralizing. If you take out purple sharpness, people will just use white sharpness and the same thing happens, where if you aren't using white sharpness you're gimping yourself.

If you removed offensive armor skills, there will still be a next best thing everyone will gravitate to. It might help a little, but it won't remove the problem completely. I do like the idea though. More of a chance to use stamina recover or whatever.
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>>180471098
That helps, but I think there's gonna be skills that are more equal than others. See Wide Area versus Shapness: one is a nice thing to have in a group, the other benefits pratically everything.
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>>180471152
you really countered his argument there
>>>reddit
>>180471373
I don't claim to know the answer, but transmogging goes directly against one of the purposes of the game, a purpose that coincidentally has been watered down to nothing in the latest installments
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>>180471492
One of the game's main purposes is having to pick between enjoying the look of your hunter or having good skills?
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>>180471547
You can have both, which is why transmog is not needed.
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>>180471406
I didn't say that though. Try getting some reading comprehension.
I'm talking about removing consequence. Right now it's removing consequence from fashion choices but keep this pattern up and evantually, they'll be removing consequence from other parts of the game as you can already see from MHW. Stuff like being able to drink potions while running now. Removing consequence is the argument here.
Again get some readying comprehension.
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>>180471547
Sacrifice, or consequence, as has been stated many times.
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>>180471621
How can I have both?
I can't. It'll be a compromise between good skills and not looking so bad I want to puke.

>>180471664
>consequence
top meme
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>>180471443
the difference is the deviation from the average

if getting sharpness +1 is far and away the best thing to do, then not having it feels much worse

if not getting something like speed sharpening or evade distance or something means you are less effective, it isn't nearly as much of a loss and you don't feel nearly as bad giving it up

right now, using a coherent looking set is the worst it has even been in the series, although the deviant sets were somewhat a step in the right direction
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>>180471750
You can, use your head.
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>>180471827
No, you can't.
Unless the optimal set for your weapon just happens to be the clownsuit you find to be extremely appealing (very unlikely), that cannot happen. It's not doable.

Unless you got something new to say now or start using your brain I'm done replying, too.
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>>180471750
>It'll be a compromise between good skills and not looking so bad I want to puke
Welcome to having consequences. It's a compromise. Now, there's no need for compromise, hence dumbing down the game.
>I want to be able to do everything in the game without any downsides
Was gen baby's first MH?
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>>180471936
You need to get yourself checked with a doc or some other kind of professional.
You should also find out what "dumbing down the game" means.
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>>180471468
yes but giving up sharpness for wide area doesn't hurt nearly as much as giving up sharpness +1 for wide area, making it easier for the player to choose it
>>180471547
>>180471664
the main purpose is that the abilities you gain reflect the monsters you've hunted and are using for armor, the appearance being the physical manifestation of it

a somewhat unequal comparison would be making a literal rathalos look like khezu. It's the same gameplay, but it ruins the feel of the game clearly
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>>180472046
Nice counter argument. As expected of a millennial who's used to having everything handed to him. I hope you enjoy your future handholding games.
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>>180469987
kys
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>>180471929
Put [optimal skillset] in the ass and look at all the results if you're that dumb, and if you're playing a real game and not X/XX you might even not need a godcharm.
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>>180472061
You know what else ruins the feel of the game?
Seeing thousands of people in silverlos clownsuits.

You know what would be better than seeing that? Seeing people in all sorts of varied armor sets. Because unlike objectively superior skills, visuals is something that is merely subjective and taste varies a lot when it comes to that, hence why you'll get a lot of visual diversity through transmog.
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>>180471818
Yeah, as I wrote the post I kinda saw what you were getting at. I think it'd be a cool idea. Speed sharpening for instance could make weapons with tiny sharpness more useful. I've always wanted to try out a speed sharpening/heavy polish set, but I gimp myself in too many other ways for it to be viable.
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>>180471640
Get a better argument than consequences as it doesn't really work when applied to optional cosmetic changes. The consequence can be having to grind (maybe a lot) for the transmog as opposed to just continuing on your way and progressing further.

>Stuff like being able to drink potions while running now.
Maybe there are other parts of the game that have changed to make this not dumbing down.

You're still retarded, I'm afraid.
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>>180472180
>add transmog
>everyone in flagship or kirin armor
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>>180472134
how fucking old are you
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>>180472287
But that's wrong and you know it. A lot of people find other armors a lot more appealing than those.
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>>180472180
>Seeing thousands of people in silverlos clownsuits.
Stop playing with tryhards then. I bet you just kick anyone who has non optimal armor skills cause you can't play without them.
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>>180472180
actually before this game started catering to the casuals, seeing people in the best sets would reflect the effort they put into the game because the droprates were actually rare

but aside from that point, you've just reiterated the same garbage that can be addressed by balance or rework

and even accepting your point, it's still contrary to the purpose of the game. Even clownsuits make more sense, because your abilities reflect the armor you're wearing

you just look like a clown of your own free will
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>>180472403
Until Capcom bothers properly rebalancing shit (they never will), transmog is a godsend.

The end.
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>>180472247
yea it's funny because posts like these
>>180472180
seem to disregard the fact that 90% of skills are disregarded, as if that is a preferable outcome to the devs

this wasn't even a problem to people before tri, everyone knew you paid the price if you wanted to squeeze out more stats, now the autists have taken over
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>>180472276
>Get a better argument than consequences as it doesn't really work when applied to optional cosmetic changes.
But it does. If you want to not look like a clown, you have to sacrifice abit of armor skills, which directly relates to combat.
>Maybe there are other parts of the game that have changed to make this not dumbing down.
Nice wishful thinking, and I hope you're right, I really do but then we're also getting stuff like instant camp returns without requiring a farcaster, auto map tracking, heartbeat monitor.
MHW is already very muched dumbed down.
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>>180472484
t. brainlet
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Are people seriously arguing about optional transmog again?
Of all the autistic things to argue about for the nth time this one takes the cake.
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>>180471640
>>180470982

This is the stupidest thing I have read on this board since E3.
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>>180472810
It's just one ultra autist, ignore him.
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>>180472276
>having to grind
except the droprate has been casualized to shit, what grind are you referring to?

it's infinitely more likely they balance or rework armor than reversing a trend they've shown no indication of changing
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>>180470964
I don't care about anything but gameplay. Lore just brings in monsterfuckers that want a story for their fapping and if I want to get immersed in a natural environment I can go outside. High impact monster fighting that feels as complex as MH only exists in MH and so that should be the series focus.
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>>180472861
When was the droprate "casualized to shit" exactly?

Because even in X I had to kill nearly alatreons in a row just for my webbings
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>>180472810
transmogfags don't seem to like different opinions, including the dev's opinions
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>>180472559
>this wasn't even a problem to people before tri, everyone knew you paid the price if you wanted to squeeze out more stats, now the autists have taken over
Pretty much this. In the early MH days, you either looked like a clown or you were a little less optimal but looked cool. And people from both sides were fine with it AND they were fine with playing with people from either camp.
Now babies need to be able to both look cool and have the best armor skills otherwise they get upset and autokick people who play better than them yet don't have the most optimal armor set.
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>>180472810
There's one really vocal autist that hates transmog because the appearance of other people ruin the game for him.

It happens too often and just another ft..
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>>180472972
*nearly 50
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>>180472834
Stop being such a baby. MH was always about making choices with consequences, whether in combat or not.
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>>180472927
>I don't care about anything but gameplay
sorry you have autism

>>180472972
it's self evident to anybody who has played this game for a significant period of time, sprout
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>>180472975
If the dev's opinion is so important not a single person here should be able to complain about anything.
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>>180452657
>new mohran-esque elder dragon that you fight from a regular boat on the open ocean

YES
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>>180473124
I'm not sorry about the 5000 hours of fun I've gotten out of this series.
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>>180473213
except their argument is denying some sort of "feel of the game" argument, when the devs have said as much

take your hyperbole to reddit and jerk off to clownsuit stats over there
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>>180473056
Except most players who have followed the series since the early games and who are familiar with what makes MH different from other games understand why transmog is bad and goes against the principal of the game.
Transmogfags like you are probably millennials who think dauntless is a good game.
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>>180473364
okay grandpa go back to bed, you're starting to worry everyone
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>Want tail
>Cut tail
>Carve tail
>Get plate
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>Bad aesthetics is a feature guys!
Cant make this shit up
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>>180473364
Case in point. A real autist.
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>>180473449
>the devs WANT you to look like ugly clowns, it's the price you pay for having two good skills on your armor!
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>>180473348
You seem awfully familiar with reddit. You wanna explain that, you crook?
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>>180473364
so this is what an old person with autism is like
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>>180473449
the idea of wearing an uglier piece of gear just for the stats is a common rpg trope little guy
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Would transmog still be bad if the games were single player only?
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>>180473435
It's evident you're too spoilt to know the importance of choice and consequence and are too used to handholding.
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>>180473449
>i'm incapable of making a good looking mixed set
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>tfw you will just cheat an insane talisman into the game and then wear whatever you find pretty.
>free transmog
ps4 btw
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>>180473670
I'm a guy who wears mixed or even outright fashion hunter sets and even I welcome transmog.

Not all of us have terminal autism.
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>>180473548
yea, they come here constantly and share their blogposts from there as if it's ok

they also import retarded ideas borne from that cesspit and then try to gaslight them here
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>>180473669
Yes yes granpa I know all about the spooky consequences of my kirin outfit, now take your meds please.
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>>180473623
Yes because it ruins the ""feel""" of the game. How other people look is incredibly ""important"".
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>>180473494
>>180473601
>babies who got into the game with gen try to pretend they know what's best for the MH series
You have to be 18 to use the site. >>180473669
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im tired of killing monsters
i want to date one !
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If you can't clear content while clownsuiting you don't deserve shit fucking casuals.
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>>180473757
>look, even I'm just as stupid
wow congrats dude
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>>180473669
embarassing
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>>180473789
>>180473908
>I must be able to have everything in a game without consequence
Why don't you go play dauntless? It looks perfect for kids like you.
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>>180473791
>art is pointless, only gameplay matters
look I posted hyperbole hahahaha, no I won't rebut the argument, because I can't lol!
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>>180474004
>he's still going
you're going to get a heart attack before long at this rate
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>>180474004
Grandpa please! I don't want to have to get the sedatives again.
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imagine how mentally ill you would have to be to simultaneous hold these beliefs:
>the look of the game doesn't matter, gameplay is all the matters
>I shouldn't have to look at my clownsuit because it's ugly
it's like trying to convince a toddler that vegetables are good for them
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I really cannot decide what MHunter I wanna play between FU and P3rd.

Which one will I enjoy more solo?

I know FU has more content, but MH P3rd has better graphics, better hitboxes, and really nice QoL improvements.
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>all these newfags in the general
This general was alot more comfy during the earlier days. I wonder where all these casuals come from.
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which monster wud u fug
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>>180462307
/mhg/, help me improve this image
What else could I add to it?
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>>180474490
>being this upset no one agrees with your autistic anti-transmog rants
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>>180474431
FU then P3rd.
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>>180474490
at least the newfags coming in with world will have even a miniscule taste for aesthetics
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>>180474571
>implying I'm the only one who thinks transmog is bad
Delusional.
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>>180474230
>>180474490
Jesus, he's still going at it.
Truly the tantrum being thrown is unending.
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>>180474431
P3rd then FU
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>>180474431
There's nothing really stopping you from giving both a shot.
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>>180474573
>>180474691
only gonna play one of them, I have MHO as my main game atm. Just want one I can do offline.
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>>180472134
I really hope you weren't born before the late eighties
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>all these pro-transmog arguments
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>>180474571
>except the devs
lmao

>>180474670
>those are two different people
lmao the delusion from your camp is only superseded by the lack of logic
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>>180474670
>only one of those posts is mine
It's okay, you'll give up the game halfway anyways.
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>>180474545
Your tears.

>>180474431
Go with P3rd first to spoil yourself and them maybe go for FU. Trust me it'll be funny.
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>>180474746
I'd say FU, then. It feels incredibly rewarding once you do get the mechanics down.
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In terms of gameplay looking dumb for better skills is not a punishment. The way your character looks doesn't matter at all.

I can understand not liking transmog because it doesn't convey the actual armor skills. But you still have to fight the monster for the parts to transmog, so you can still derive at a glance what the player has experience with.

Even if they were to balance armor skills, most players would still gravitate towards whatever is declared best, there's no escaping that.
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>>180474670
you're welcome to address how that isn't a contradiction

how can you simultaneous say aesthetics don't real, and then turn around and say you shouldn't have to look ugly?

this is the most hilarious "tantrum" I've ever had lol
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So World has transmog right?
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>>180474947
yup
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transmog is for gay
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>>180474914
>you still have to fight for the parts
only half of the whole, the second half being that powers are granted to you from the armor, and the armor of course being visually represented
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>>180474947
I don't see why it wouldn't. It was a welcomed feature by the community.
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>>180475012
ur gay!
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>>180475078
by the newfags you mean
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>>180474918
who said that ?
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>>180474947
it won't for the same reason it won't have oil, cat weapon, and flashy effects, they are in bad taste

and we're all thankful that the devs aren't tasteless like the hack developing spinoffs
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>>180475078
Along with annoying tracking bugs, free camp teleport, heartbeat, realtime map tracking. Nice handholding game.
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>>180475119
Guess 99% of all MH players are newfags :)
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>>180475254
Nice source
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>>180475052
The parts cost is the same.

I'm not actually sure what you mean by that statement.
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>>180475315
nice source
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>>180475078
Capcom are like gamefreak. They dont put too many good features in the game because they know they can resell them to you later in repackaged version.
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transmog should be something you earn, like you gotta clear 5 Kings or hit a certain rank before it's available

you'll be able to tell the good hunters from the clowns at a glance
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>>180475351
He's just going senile, let him tire himself out and he'll go back to sleep.
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>>180475248
You do know there are ways to make the game hard even with all that shit right?

>>180475389
Been like that since fucking street fighter superultramegalphaturbokissykissy edition.
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>>180475084
are felynes gay
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>>180475462
But gameplay is less important than aesthetics. You shouldn't be allowed to play the game and be rewarded with options, that's not what Monster Hunter is about at all.
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>>180475483
>still assuming it's only 1 guy
Why haven't you gone to play dauntless? It's right up your alley.
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You know what Capcom really needs to do already?

Properly scale monster health to groups of 3 and 4 hunters
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>add costume slots
>costumes only change appearance, not stats
>transmogging a piece of armor just turns it into a costume
>each person can select in options whether they want to see people's costumes or not

And then everyone was happy.
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>>180475462
>a feature should be available when you've beaten the game
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>>180475462
I agree. Just like rainbow pigment. But that wouldnt stop the autists from crying about it being in the game.
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>>180475351
probably because you can't read, part cost is only half of the purpose of wearing the things you've killed

hunting monsters is not alone the purpose of the game

part cost is mere gameplay

part cost is not the sole purpose

I don't know how to get the point across
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>>180475638
>just impose restrictions on yourself, meanwhile we'll dumb down the rest of the game for the lowest common denominator, enjoy hunting with dudebros!
Games aren't what they used to be anymore.
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>>180475670
>each person can select in options whether they want to see people's costumes or not

Or they can not be autistic and just ignore it like normal person. Who gives a fuck what the person standing next to you in the guild hall looks like.
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>>180475157
here you go
>>180475658
denying aethetics matter while simultaneously valuing how his hunter looks enough to complain about it
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I've seen some dumb arguments about things that don't matter, but this one is really fucking stupid.

Transmogging is a good thing.
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>>180475703
What is the purpose of the game? I think we need to establish this to resolve this argument.
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>>180475665
Two hunters no cats has the best dynamic.

4 people is just some poor monster getting slaughtered.
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>>180475662
Please gramps, don't get riled up again. I don't want to have to call an ambulance again.
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>>180475670
>missing the point entirely
It's not about the visual appearance, it's about forcing people to make a choice with consequences. It gave meaning to the choice you have to make. What's so hard to understand about that?
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>>180475817
>who gives a fuck if the game has consistency
people who have taste, people who think the newer games are shit
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>>180475703
>hunting monsters is not alone the purpose of the game

Are you genuinely retarded?
Don't answer that one.
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>>180475891
Yet it seems to be what most people do

I fucking hate the average nu-MH player who rushes through urgents online in full groups, slays some deviants or other shit in a full team and goes "wow game was easy"

>so can you even solo the double rajang?
>no
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>>180475665
>make health even spongier than it already is for real players
no, they just need to make monsters a threat to a group, like in frontier.
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>>180475670
you miss the point altogether, demonstrated by the fact you think it has anything to do with multiplayer
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>>180475975
Then why are you here. This is essentially a thread solely about the new games.

You ain't part of the community. Obviously the game moved on without you.
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>>180475975
You mean people who are irrelevant and jack off to Bad hitboxes:FU.
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>>180475795
Not what I was talking about. Footage is most likely from low rank and low rank isn't very challenging. The casuals will drop the fuck off the second after they hit high rank.
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>>180475891
Agreed, the AI just can't handle four targets.
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>>180475887
to hunt things
then to craft armor out of them
then to wear said armor and gain abilities from them

all being reflected visually and consistently

as opposed to rathalos shooting lightning or potions restoring stamina
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>>180476135
>This is essentially a thread solely about the new games.
Spotted the newfag. Reddit should be better for you.
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>>180475975
>>180476262
fuck off "crapcom" guy no one else is this autistic
go actually play your switch library
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>>180476018
it's not moron

otherwise armor wouldn't even be changeable

do you know how to communicate without hyperbole? do you recognize when somebody isn't being ironic or hyperbolic? Apparently not
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>>180475959
Except there's no choice, if you wear a set with worse stats because it's more stylish you're a faggot scrub that deserves to get kicked on sight because you're bringing the rest of the group down by being suboptimal. That's how it's always been in every online RPG ever.

Just face it, there's ALWAYS an optimal choice, the only way to actually give people an actual choice is to remove consequence so their hand isn't forced.
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>>180475703
You're not making any sense.

Hunting monsters is not the point of the game? That's ludicrous, hunting monsters is the core of the gameplay loop. It's really the only point of the game.

Parts cost is the materials gathered to craft. It's costs no less parts to transmog. If a player wears transmogged cephadrome gear, you know they have experience with cephadrome. The same amount someone wearing a normal cephadrome set would have.

I don't understand your core point. Transmog is bad because why?
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>>180475959
your point is dumb
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>>180475703
>hunting monsters is not the main and only purpose of Monster Hunter

What the fuck am I reading
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>>180476192
HR isn't that much harder than LR though. If you really want to scare off the casuals, you'll need at least G rank but obviously it won't be in the first game.
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>>180476108
>single player

Even fucking worse. Don't like it? Don't use it. Nobody is holding you at gunpoint and forcing you to transmog, are they?
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>>180476361
>>180475703

Seriously. What the fuck is this guy talking about?
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>hammer have sharpness for whatever reason
Ok sure
>you sharpen the handle
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>>180476262
You simply can't be in this thread most of the time otherwise you would know that the only 3rd FU posts are people asking if they should emulate it to get a free taste of the games.

The only discussion is about the new games.
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>>180476517
It shouldn't be an option at all
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>>180476135
>what is relativity
it's a concept where something can be stated, but not be absolute, such as "the new games are shit" being shorthand for "the new games are more shit than their predecessors"

>solely about new games
it won't be in the new game
>obviously the game moved on without you
lol, to criticism and stagnating sales, and again you disregard world
>>180476189
>returning to a past idea means regressing technology
I bet you're the fag that says the same thing about returning to the 50's or something
>"oh so you want to return to disease and no electricity?"
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>>180476192
That is supposing that they intend to keep the game challenging. I would not bet on this, but hope is not bad (as long as one does not buy until he is sure the game is still ok).
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>>180476475
G wasn't enough to s are off the frenchies in 4U and for some reason they are flooding lobbies like locusts today.
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>>180476348
>again only one of those posts is mine
You're getting really paranoid now. Also I don't have a switch.
>>180476364
>Except there's no choice, if you wear a set with worse stats because it's more stylish you're a faggot scrub that deserves to get kicked on sight because you're bringing the rest of the group down by being suboptimal
Only if you're a group of baddies. 4 hunters online kill everything easily, even without the most optimal set. Is this your first MH?
>That's how it's always been in every online RPG ever.
Not in MH.
>>180476404
Only to babies who are used to having everything without consequence.
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>>180476602
>having options is bad

You're not even trying anymore.
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>>180476403
>hunting monster is not the point of the game
huh, it's almost like I qualified that statement

won't bother reading the rest, since you're too retarded to understand nuance
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>>180476774
cool story bro keep spending days ebin troleing mhg/ that will stop world selling
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>>180476676
Lancer here
Gunlance a shit
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>>180476781
>doesn't understand core my philosophy
Back to plebbit with you.
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>>180476421
see
>>180476810

>>180476537
how can you people be this stupid? obviously the game has more than fighting monsters, like crafting the armor from them and collecting shit

am I actually arguing with literal retards? what the fuck?
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>>180476567
You do know the /mhg/ started long before with the earlier games and that every mh game is welcomed to be discussed here right? How new are you?
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>>180476650
>>180476774
Asshurt
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>>180476949
You are, you fucking are, they don't understand why transmog in MH is bad, of course you're arguing with literal retards.
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>>180476941
>doesn't understand core my philosophy

Maybe if you wrote coherent sentences people would understand more easily.
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>>180476909
>>180476997
>only one of those posts is mine again
>can't come up with an argument anymore so all he can do is meme
Gen babies, go figure.
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>>180476348
>muh single shill guy
>>180476517
>as long as it's optional, it's fine if it's in the game
bad taste
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>>180476932
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>>180476969
So what does this has to do with anything at all?

The fact is it isn't. Since you also said you hate the new games what are you here for? All you do is shitposting because you're bitter as fuck about how the series went on.
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>>180476949
>the whole world is retarded except me!!!
>>
If I make a LR/HR 4U room, would anybody be interested? For the people who started new files.
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>>180476997
really great argument

I'll work hard to get you a rebuttal, but it'll take me awhile

rock solid stuff
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>>180477108
Needs to lose a few tons.
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>>180477173
I can't be on right now, but I'll be on later, if you're willing to wait. Though there probably are people who would join right now.

There also tends to be someone who starts a room around 2000 hours EST or so.
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>>180477173
Fuck off newfag
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>>180475975
If you only like 1/2/F why even be here lol
Fucking gross 30+ year old
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>>180477171
>somebody says
"hunting monsters is *not alone* the purpose of the game
>in an argument about aesthetics and ARMOR CHOICES

>the takeaway is that he said the game isn't about hunting monsters???
actually, I really don't know what you fucking retards took away from that, how stupid would you have to be to take away anything else?
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>>180477173
Sure, SA user I'll join
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>>180477126
People just want to look pretty.

Let them look pretty.
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>>180477461
m-muh consequences!
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>>180477113
>>180477223
>>180477380
Incredibly asshurt
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>>180477310
Saltiest boy I've seen in /mhg/ since before e3 lmao
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>>180477367
>only like
>doesn't understand nuance
>didn't read my post shitting on the guy who also doesn't understand nuance
>>
I main LS and no one can stop me (I'm a solo hunter anyway).
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LR/HR 4U room

62 2557 0389 4083
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>>180477606
is this 2009?
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>>180477461
no they apparently don't

>>180477520
after losing the argument they turn to saltposting

this couldn't get funnier, as if anybody could be asshurt at this
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>>180477674
Did you like the time travel?
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>>180477606
>>180477674
>>180477792
gross
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>>180477168
>trying to explain to you retards why removing consequence from choice is bad
>shitposting
And I didn't say I hated the new games. Stop trying to misrepresent my arguments.
>>180476135
>This is essentially a thread solely about the new games
>tell him that's wrong and this general has been here long before the new games and the thread is for ALL MH discussions, new or old
>OP even has info for very old games like MHFU
>So what does this has to do with anything at all?
>The fact is it isn't.
You're not even trying anymore. Read the OP carefully. This is monster hunter GENERAL. Not monster hunter NEW GAME ONRY general.
>>180477520
>still only one of those posts is mine
>can only shitpost in return multiple times with the same few words
I would say you're the one who's incredibly asshurt.
>>
can't wait for transmog to be confirmed in MHW just to see /mhg/ totally turn 180 degrees in their opinion of it instantly
>>
Is why the grandpa namecalling meme came to life?
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>>180476235
And why does it matter if your armor looks different?
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>>180477956
Yeah, the shitposting newfags had nothing to protect themselves so they just spam "lol grandpa" as if it invalidates completely valid criticism.
Pure cancer.
>>
>>180477884
He's not stopping these walls of text.
Don't pop a blood vessel, or do I guess. Would make this place better.
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>>180477890
>every anon is the same poster
Stop that. You know that's not how it works.
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>>180477890
anti-transmog here

i'd still shit on it as a bad design decision but it's barely a problem, just a small step in the wrong direction, not worth getting mad over or abstaining from the game on it's own
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>>180477890
>two autists sperging about transmog
>/mhg/
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>>180478056
Point proven. Dumb grandpa.
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is X the worst portable Monhun ever?
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>>180478173
X and XX are both the two worst games
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>Posting "newfags" unironically
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>>180478173
yes
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>>180478029
"all being reflected visually and consistently"
>>
That's what happens when you dumb down games. You get all these newfags who want to have more handholding in later games and the cycle just continues on.
>>
>>180478173
P3rd
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>>180478173
X and XX are great.
Worst MHs are Freedom 1 and P3rd
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>>180478237
>thinking this is a valid opinion in any sort of majority
how has the cancer gotten so bad that people think this is ok to post?
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>>180478268
>>180478310
you shut your whore mouths about p3rd
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>>180478310
XX is better than F1 and P3rd but X is worse.
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>>180478254
and?
It isnt reflected at a glance. What is your point?
You can look at your stat screen and see the true armor.
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>>180476235
I think you are missing out on the essential element of developing player skill by fighting the monsters. A good hunter can finish any hunt in Low rank armor whereas a shitty hunter can struggle even with G rank equipment, therefore I believe that the game has more of a focus on development of individual ability rather than the equipment loop.
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>>180477956
Crotchety old fucks start something out about the good old days and how bad everything is now, so it caught on.
Half of this thread proves that.
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>>180478310
>>180478268
>P3rd is worst than X and XX

????????????
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>>180477884
It still doesn't matter what the OP says.

It still doesn't what games were discussed back then.

I'm not trying to forbid people talking old games.

It's just that practically no one does until someone like you comes along.

But you don't actually talk about games. You come to fling shit because you are salty about new games. Stop posting. You are a shitposter.
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>>180478310
>gen babies literally think this
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>180478404
P3rd is a shit game. Get over it.
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>>180478310
>tech limitations at the time mean it was bad when it was releases
sure glad I'll never be this retarded
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>>180478396
He's from reddit and posts reddit memes. What do you expect?
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>>180478456
>Series is getting objectively better with each new game
>X and XX break the cycle
>NEW GAMES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SHIT WAAH
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>>180478396
It has gotten to this point because -IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR!!!

>>180478529
>reddit memes
Now who's teh epic newfag?
>>
Personally i always found the incoherent mixed sets that endgame optimization yields to be charming and part of the series' identity in a way. I dont think any worse of people who feel differently, but if transmogging is in World (which i honestly doubt), i will be disappointed.
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>>180478519
>only playable game of the third gen
>shit
???
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>>180458365
>Is this the biggest betrayal since Final Fantasy 7?
Holy shit you're a faggot.
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>>180478310
I like freedom 1
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>>180478456
>>180478310
>>180478268

dumb gen babies
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>>180478545
Everything since 4th gen has been trash. Get some taste.
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So the Gen is bad meme will never die because of Worldfags now?
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>>180477884
>who gives a fuck if the game has consistency
people who have taste, people who think the newer games are shit

>And I didn't say I hated the new games. Stop trying to misrepresent my arguments.

shit

hate

Big difference my apologies. LOL
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>>180478475
>he's too stupid to comprehend my argument so it must be shitposting
Removing consequence from choices are bad. Try to understand that.
Now you on the otherhand have no arguments at all and are only replying to shitpost me cause you don't like what I'm saying. Now that is shitposting.
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>>180478519
>3rd gen+ game with no bullshit tacked on
>shit
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>>180478443
I never claimed it was the main focus of the game, obviously hunting monsters is in fact the main focus of the game

but the fact remains that crafting armor out of the thing you kill to gain it's power is consistent and also visually consistent

again, an extreme example of this principle is having rathalos use fire and flying, all the time

>>180478432
>it isn't reflected at a glance
it isn't reflected anywhere but the stat screen, and worse than that is contrary to what you see
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>>180478698
Let me guess. You only play Monster Hunter: Bad hitboxes unite?

No one takes you people seriously.
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>>180478613
You have to go back.
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>>180478758
it's not a meme little guy

the game had some nice things but it was a bad direction
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>>180478913
There you go that's a bit more modern
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>>180478963
>every change is bad i hate it
Not this again.
Styles and arts are super fun.
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>>180477660
come play instead of shitposting
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>>180479013
Fuck off
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>>180478770
Did you reply to the right guy? Because this
>people who have taste, people who think the newer games are shit
Wasn't my post.
>LOL
Please go and stay go.
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>>180478778
I was literally never part of that argument you gigantic moron.
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>>180478525
>Implying literally anything related to tech use has improved in the monster hunter series since 2001
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>>180478903
see
>>180478525
why do people, even outside of monster hunter and video games, think this is a valid argument?

as if the newer hitboxes weren't implemented back then on purpose

fucking christ I couldn't imagine being this stupid
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>>180458365
And you're brown as well, go figure.
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>>180479089
Then you are too retarded to match posts?

You cannot use 4chan and tell someone to leave. LOL
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>>180478823
>it isn't reflected anywhere but the stat screen, and worse than that is contrary to what you see
Yes and that is exactly how people want it. They want to wear the maid outfit while wearing full rajang or whatever. This isnt a problem. If you want to know what set someone is running you have to hit the stat screen even if there is no transmog because you cant see decorations and charms.
I am still trying to figure out why this is a problem for you.
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>>180479004
>Styles and arts are super fun.
But then it's no longer MH. It's becoming DMC instead.
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>>180479004
is every post I reply to going to be idiotic?
>the game had some nice things
>every change is bad
these are mutually exclusive. please let me know if you don't know what mutually exclusive means
>not this again
>not the predominant opinion again
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>>180477312
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>>180478525
>when it was releases
lol so you admit games can age?
Why wouldn't you judge a game by current standards?
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>>180479232
You're the one who's too retarded to match posts. You replied to me assuming I posted the first line.
>LOL
>again
Stop replying to me if you're going to talk like a retard.
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>>180479113
spicy hyperbole

>>180479240
>i'm still trying to figure it out
lack of empathetic reasoning is a sign of autism
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>>180478525
>>180479135
>MH
>constrained by tech

You mean laziness.
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>transmogfags joins the lobby
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>>180479401
Caught being a lying sack of shit LOL
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>>180478823
I totally get your point, I just think that at a high enough level of player skill it ceases to matter what armor skills you have so when players get to that point giving them the option to transmog isn't really that harmful to the spirit of making sacrifices. I do think that transmog is way too easy to unlock in XX.
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>>180479413
So no argument then. Well that was easy.
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>>180479429
>argument over but he wants to keep it going
mental problems
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>>180479413
>insult the poster
What an argument.
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>>180479330
>why wouldn't you judge a game by current standards
because the thing people are judging isn't just the hitboxes?

how is that a question?
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>Chris has entered the Gathering Hall
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>>180479110
Then why reply accusing me of shitposting when you didn't even bother reading my post in the first place?
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>>180479527
>>180479553
Back to plebbit
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>>180479464
>just told him >>180475975 wasn't my post
>caught lying
???
Are you alright?
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>>180479557
You still judge whether or not you want to play a game by current standards.
All he said was those MHs are bad.
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>>180479527
it was posted and unanswered
visual consistency directly reflecting the game design and gameplay is preferable to inconsistency, especially when the inconsistency is a bandaid solution people whining about imposing ugly sets upon themselves as well as poor balance
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>>180479750
do you have autism?

saying something is bad can mean a thousand different things
>>
>Seperate armour skills into a couple of loosely defined tiers
>Armour with many low tier skills
or
>Armour with few higher tier skills

Y/N?
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>>180479429
>>180479576
"please equip silverlos guys or I kick"
Easy solution to these newfags
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>>180479553
it's a good thing there remains an uncontested one still hanging up there in the reply chain

the retard doesn't even understand what I'm trying to say even though others can, why should I grace him with anything further?
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This whole General.
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>>180479964
Better
Leave it as it is, it's perfect, just make crit boost sets harder to pull off.
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>>180479429
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>>180479923
Yes, it can mean more than technical limitations.
???
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>>180480084
>left is a great player
>right is a massive shitter
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>>180479718
Well that's would I say if I'm lying. You clearly replied to him and he replied to the said text.
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>>180480046
>general is good at some point
>new fans wash up with their shitty games
>general is now shit, games are unquestionable
I wonder what caused that
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>>180480084
>1000 hours in ms paint
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>armor set needs the Hyabusa Feather
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>>180479969
>Kicking Bullfango Man
Are you for real

>>180480080
>it's perfect
>95% of armour pieces never even get a passing glance
It's not perfect and everyone knows it
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>>180479790
>reflecting the game design
Not when the game design has been altered to include something that is different.
>is preferable to inconsistency
Not when people are literally saying that transmog is preferable.
Why should your preferences supersede others? Is this all about immersion?
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>>180479240
>low IQ plebs can't comprehend the transmog argument is about removing consequence from choice and has nothing to do with visuals at all
>they still use cosmetics as an argument
This is the sad state of the new MH fanbase.
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>>180480279
>Kicking Bullfango Man
I don't care about doujin references, I want to see that the player isn't a shitter
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>>180480213
This doesnt change the number of good players in the game
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>>180480336
Who gives a shit?
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>>180480409
If you kick him you'll live your life never knowing if that player was a carried idiot or a nip god that had transcended the limitations of armour skills.
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>>180480285
>has been altered
yea, in a spinoff contrary to the rest of the series, which coincidentally features a ton of shitty design changes
>not when people are literally saying
who is "people" to you? and why are you appealing to popularity anyway?
>why should your preferences supercede others
why do you think that the majority is inherently right?

>why should your preferences supercede others
they make more sense from a design perspective, coincide with the history of the franchise, and coincide with the devs vision

as if players actually know what they want, they're wrong 99% of the time

we have people "literally" claiming monster hunter has always been some TA meta fighting gladiator game. Why should I care what they think?
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>>180480426
The people who actually care about the core of MH and the things that make MH, MH. You can go and play dauntless, they have transmog there so I hear.
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>>180480279
That's because you care about Defense.
And of course it's not perfect in fucking X/XX
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>>180480409
>I want to see that the player isn't a shitter
>kick him before you get to see him play
>judging player skills based on what armor he wears
>this is what newfags believe
How horrifying!
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>>180479429

I remember Helper U skirt being a lot smaller in FU
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>>180480695
>That's because you care about defense
What? No, not really.
>And of course it's not perfect in fucking X/XX
Did you reply to the wrong person? I agree that it's not perfect but I never mentioned X/XX anywhere.
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>>180480771
Kicking transmog newfags is worth the risk of missing the rare decent one
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>>180480663
>people who actually care about the core of MH and the things that make MH

transmog make MH, MH?????

dumbass
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>>180480940
Then many armours are usable in mixed sets, especially if you don't have THE godcharm.
>>
>3 hours later
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>>180479274
Here is your (You)
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>>180466902
>>180466043
It's literally impossible to balance the amount of different weapons and armour pieces that exist. Yes, Capcom's balance team is braindead, but even if they were the best in the world half the armour would still be worthless, there's just far, far too many sets to make everything have a niche.

And how are oils a "bandaid"? They're a mechanic introduced to buff SnS, calling that a "bandaid" is like saying all of the weapon reworks in Gen 3 were "bandaids".

>prowler, besides being contrary to the rest of the series, should have been limited to strictly far worse than any of the weapons

But why?
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>>180481110
I agree, transmog should not exist in MH.
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>>180480771
These fucking shitters who kick without letting anyone change gear or give them a chance left 4U for the most part. I only kick on the spot if you're have bad gear AND you are french.
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>>180481230
It's a bandaid, literally buy them to the store and use them, they could have done the same as the HH nerf and boosted their stats it would have been the same, if not better, because adding upkeep to SnS ruins it, that's the point of the weapon : no gauges, no gimmicks, like Lance and Hammer.
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>>180465570
>>180465695
>>180465897
>>180466043
FUCK YOU
COULD HAVE JUST KEPT YOUR MOUTHS SHUT
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>>180480659
>why do you think that the majority is inherently right?
Its a videogame. The only thing that matters is player enjoyment. And the only thing that matters to Capcom is sales. So yes, what the players want does matter.
>they make more sense from a design perspective
It has been explained why this doesn't matter. The character model does not convey everything it needs to convey. And a lot more things could be in the game that "make sense" but dont make the game any better.
>coincide with the history of the franchise, and coincide with the devs vision
The franchise has changed significantly and the devs made the changes so why are you appealing to their vision?
>Why should I care what they think?
You don't have to. But Capcom would if they could profit off appealing to them.
Why should anyone care you think?
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>>180481230
The real problem with oils is that it took SnS, a simple weapon with no meters to have to worry about, no stamina to manage, nothing but attacking and dodging, and then added item management.
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>>180481110
Did you read right? I'm against transmog, not supporting it.
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>>180481475
But then I wouldn't have been provided with immense laughter by this incredibly senile grandpa. I'm not even sorry about it.
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>>180481230
>literally impossible to balance
no, they've become more imbalanced over time, not just due to the number of choices
>literally impossible
i provided a potential solution, remove all offensive buffs, but I do not claim to know THE solution. Deviant sets are another example of a step in the right direction

>how are oils a bandaid
>they were introduced because sns was shit
adding a stat usable is nowhere close to reworking weapons, I don't understand how you could think that
>but why
because it's too ridiculous, like most things wrong with the newer games

I have no problem with a cat weapon implemented for beginners or something but it shouldn't be competitive
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>>180481497
If your game loses its identity it won't sell, because that's the reason people buy it instead of another series (see all MH clones)
The franchise changed significantly and XX is the game with the lowest sales since MH's early days.
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>>180481136
I bet you enjoy the shitfest frontier has become.
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>>180481717
Stop, it still hurts
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>>180481607
I like deviant sets. I got into Gen too late to grind any out, and then XX made them entirely useless. How could they have been made viable in XX without being too overpowered? Add some slots? Another skill that isn't completely shit like sneak?
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>>180481676
It's really bizarre when you look at it because the clones are trying to be mh but X/XX are trying to be the clones.
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>>180481676
>If your game loses its identity it won't sell
Sure but I dont see how a cosmetic armor option would be so integral to MH that it would drive everyone away.
>The franchise changed significantly and XX is the game with the lowest sales
The game changed significantly with MH4 too and look how that did.
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>>180481497
>the only thing that matters is player enjoyment
you confuse express desire with effective desire
>the only thing that matters to capcom is sales
what a good justification for completely abandoning the stagnating direction it was going in then, backed by general criticism of the games
>it has to be explained
I can't put it any more simply or in a different way then I already have.
>the character models does not need to convey everything
when it's an incredibly large part of the game and feel of the game, yes it does
>make sense
missing the argument a bit, aesthetics isn't necessarily about making sense. the impact of consistency is more valuable that transmog over the long term
>the devs made the changes
there are more than one set of devs, and x and xx are spinoffs
>the franchise has changed significantly
for the worse, and looks like it's going back to it's roots
>if they could profit off appealing to them
I don't argue you could profit off of a short term decision to retards
>why should anybody care what you think
I've never stated anybody should care what I think inherently, hence my arguments
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>>180481717
Never played it.
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>>180481676
I'm pretty sure people don't buy the monster hunter clones because they suck and completely miss the point by having low commitment combat for the sake of "le fluidity" because they think that's a universally good thing.
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>>180481873
>how
I don't claim to know. I've suggested removing attack stats altogether, but just making deviant work in all the power creep would require even more power creep
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>>180481371
>>180481507

So just because you have to buy them rather than them being an innate part of the weapon somehow makes it a "bandaid"? If Greatsword had to buy an item to use its new double charge + slap combo in would that magically become a "bandaid"?

>because adding upkeep to SnS ruins it, that's the point of the weapon : no gauges, no gimmicks, like Lance and Hammer.
>The real problem with oils is that it took SnS, a simple weapon with no meters to have to worry about, no stamina to manage, nothing but attacking and dodging, and then added item managemen

Uh, what? For over a decade now one of the major distinguishing characteristics of the SnS is the ability to use items while the weapon is drawn, adding in a mechanic like oils to the weapon fits that niche perfectly.

>>180481607
>i provided a potential solution, remove all offensive buffs, but I do not claim to know THE solution. Deviant sets are another example of a step in the right direction
Yes, it's plausible for things to become more imbalanced. But it's outright impossible to perfectly balance the hundreds of different armour and weapons. There will always be better equipment sets and worse equipment sets. Transmog means you can use whatever you want regardless of what's better or worse.

>adding a stat usable is nowhere close to reworking weapons, I don't understand how you could think that
Oils are a mechanic, that's a new feature of the weapon. It's comparable to the various new features introduced to weapons in Tri, P3rd, 4, etc.

>because it's too ridiculous, like most things wrong with the newer games
>I have no problem with a cat weapon implemented for beginners or something but it shouldn't be competitive

How? Palicoes have been a thing since FU, finally being able to play as one isn't a huge step towards ridiculousness. And it's certainly no more ridiculous than nearly any of the other weapons in the game.

And Monster Hunter has never been a very serious game.
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>>180482067
>Sure but I dont see how a cosmetic armor option would be so integral to MH that it would drive everyone away.
nobody has claimed that, it's more akin to a death from a thousand shallow cuts sort of thing
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>>180482067
Biggest changes in 4/4U was the fucking rubberbanding, nothing else changed the combat too deeply, all mounting did was give another option to incapacitate monsters that other weapons could apply (and all if ledges)
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>>180482125
>when it's an incredibly large part of the game and feel of the game, yes it does
Did you read what I said? Charms and decorations are invisible on the model and are half of your skills.
>it has to be explained
You are misquoting and misreading me.
>>
>>180482365
>impossible to balance hundreds of weapons and armour
the sets are bloated and powercreep has only made it harder. Balance also doesn't have to be perfect, as I've explained earlier in the thread
>there will always be better and worse
it is not a question of better and worse, it's a question of degree. Wearing a literal piece of shit on your head for +1 attack is something only the autists you find here would do
>oils are a mechanic
no more a mechanic to sns than a might seed would be. It's literally just added stats
>it's comparable
you're retarded
>being able to play a cat isn't a huge step
I'm really not going to go into why it looks more ridiculous, it's self evident. And I've restated that the balance is more of my concern.
>monster hunter has never been a serious game
I see newfags trot this argument out constantly, as if there is no upper limit to the sillyness. I think we could both come up with things too ridiculous for monster hunter
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>>180482137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXuCZqUJ6o
This is what arts and styles will evantually evolve to. I hope you like flashy lights.
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>>180482603
charms and decorations are ground zero for the balance problem and need for transmog in the first place, they in no way work against my argument
>you are misquoting and misreading
I'm not
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>>180482067
>Sure but I dont see how a cosmetic armor option would be so integral to MH that it would drive everyone away.
It's not about cosmetics, how many times must I repeat it. It's about removing consequences from choices.
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>>180482925
>"but at least they can tell when they hit something"
they will unironically defend this shit all the sudden

frontier used to be universally looked at in horror
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>>180482925
Looks fun!
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>>180483105
>spotted the gen baby
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>>180482809
>the sets are bloated and powercreep has only made it harder. Balance also doesn't have to be perfect, as I've explained earlier in the thread
>it is not a question of better and worse, it's a question of degree. Wearing a literal piece of shit on your head for +1 attack is something only the autists you find here would do

No, but there are simply far, far too many sets in the game for things to be even remotely balanced. I'd say it'd be impossible to make even 70% of the armour and weapons viable at end game. The only solutions to so many of those designs going unused is either to just completely remove them from the game or introduce transmog. Which is prefereably?

>no more a mechanic to sns than a might seed would be. It's literally just added stats

Oils are unique to SnS, it's by definition a mechanic of the weapon. You don't get free coatings just for having a bow either but that doesn't mean it isn't a mechanic of the Bow.

>you're retarded

Not an argument

>I'm really not going to go into why it looks more ridiculous, it's self evident.

You realize that's the equivalent of just saying "I'm right"?

>And I've restated that the balance is more of my concern.

Prowler was poorly balanced, true, but it doesn't mean the existence of Prowler has to be inherently imbalanced.

>I see newfags trot this argument out constantly, as if there is no upper limit to the sillyness. I think we could both come up with things too ridiculous for monster hunter

No, but being able to play as the cats that have existed since the vary first game and been combat partners since FU is hardly pushing the envelope of ridiculousness. And it certainly isn't any more out there than just about any other weapon type in the game.
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>>180483640
i can't even get past your first point, if you unironically the the series will have the armor bloat that the last games have had you're retarded

and it would be quite easy to balance the sets, you make all the skills bonuses like wide area or speed sharpening, aka the things they've made irrelevant

even in tri people were only just started to clownsuit in significant numbers, so a return to even unite amounts of armors wouldn't be a problem, historically
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>>180484014
>i can't even get past your first point, if you unironically the the series will have the armor bloat that the last games have had you're retarded

Other recent games have had ways to acquire armour from monsters that aren't actually present, why wouldn't World all of a sudden?

>and it would be quite easy to balance the sets, you make all the skills bonuses like wide area or speed sharpening, aka the things they've made irrelevant

But there will always be objectively better sets. Transmog eliminates that.

>even in tri people were only just started to clownsuit in significant numbers, so a return to even unite amounts of armors wouldn't be a problem, historically

A lack of mixing does not mean there is decent armour balance. And FU had some amazing mixed sets regardless, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>180484432
>why wouldn't world
if you weren't new you would know that isn't common at all, and limited to non-mainline games
>there will always be objectively better sets
again, it's a matter of degree like I've said for the 10th time in the same thread. Giving +1 attack is easier to give up than something like sharpness +1. there are also things like deviant sets that are a step in the right direction
>fu had amazing mixed sets
they weren't nearly as good as the mixed sets from today
>I don't know what you're talking about
because you weren't playing with other people in FU or are lying about playing it in the first place
>a lack of mixing does not mean there is decent armor balance
yes but it's only gotten worse over time, and talismans have negated the need entirely for certain skills coming from armor
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>>180485117
>if you weren't new you would know that isn't common at all, and limited to non-mainline games
>4U isn't mainline
And something being new doesn't mean it won't return, it's been in the last two games, it'll likely be in world.

>again, it's a matter of degree like I've said for the 10th time in the same thread. Giving +1 attack is easier to give up than something like sharpness +1. there are also things like deviant sets that are a step in the right direction

The amount of difference is irrelevant

>because you weren't playing with other people in FU or are lying about playing it in the first place

There was plenty of mixing in FU, maybe you didn't experience it but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

>yes but it's only gotten worse over time, and talismans have negated the need entirely for certain skills coming from armor

It's gotten worse I won't deny, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a thing before.
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>>180485594
>it's been in the last two games, it'll likely be in world
k, confirmed newfag, I'm done
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