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= NEWS =
>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>Latest PC patch notes (June 21st)
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements/detail/134924063582

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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>>180426889

I'm on PC
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Post ranks
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Who is the most honest character and why is it Jin "Dindu nuffin" Kazama?
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1st for no one respond to lucifer until he posts a screenshot of his rank.

Side note; Anyone got an idea where I can find a te2+ that's not $300+ dollary doos?
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>>180427052

Damn. Alright so first things first, who's your character?
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>>180427161
Yes, that's just a meme
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Should I play Kazumi? I'm looking at playing either her, Kat or Master Raven
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For me, it's Steve Fox
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>>180427086
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>>180427467
hard to answer if you don't tell us anything about what you want from a character

but all three are fine
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>>180427315
If you noticed in the other thread he dropped his trip so people would respond to him lmao
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I want mashing Steve's to die
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>>180427491
I WANT TO DIVE LOST MIND
>>180427531
Not too difficult execution, defensive, good pokes
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Fucking. FINALLY!
I've only been shitposting about these for a few days but I've been hunting since I first found out about them.
As always, best of luck for those out there trying to get a specific piece for their main that just won't fucking show up.
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Why do you play Tekken instead of other fighting games?
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>>180427386
Kazumi
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>>180427668
Because Tekken is awesome
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>>180427668
Because I hate fun
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>>180427668
I love Tekken
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>>180427668

But I play a bunch of other fighting games
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>>180427627
On a similar note. Who the fuck thought it was okay to go "Okay we're gonna make alternates of the default costumes, with the only difference being a texture or pattern. And we're gonna make it only unlockable in the highest rank chests!"?
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>>180427627
Congrats man. You deserve it.
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>>180427086
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>>180427668

It's better than the other ones
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>>180427692

Ok, good choice. I'm not gonna lie to you though, Kazumi is a pressure/poking character. She doesn't really have any gimmicks that will net you free wins. Her launchers are quite limited, too. Thankfully, she has a hopkick to help you with that.

Poke people with df1, d4, and 1,1 alot. You have to recognize when your opponent is pressing buttons to punish them.
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Holy shit, eddy is ridiculously fast in terms of movement.
Is he fairly difficult? I already know everyone will hate me if I play him, don't really care about that
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>>180427668
Because the game gives me something new to learn instead of solely relying on outplaying scrubs and winning cointosses. The better play will actually win over the first player to get a crush counter.
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Is Kazumi a good character to learn fundamentals with?
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>>180428106

Yeah, Eddy has the best backdash in the game, so if you learn how to KBD with him, you can stay back pretty safely. His sidestep is completely garbage though, and it's pretty much the only reason why I don't use him.

Don't let shitters tell you he's dishonest, he got nerfed so fucking hard this game. You have to play solid to succeed with him now.
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>>180427624
probably kazumi then
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QUICK someone tell me how to practice and master sidestepping so i can play lili to her fullest potential
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>>180428184

Yes, absolutely.
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>>180428184
Yes, she cannot rely on gimmicks or luck so you'll be forced to play decent Tekken.

t. Kazumi main

>>180427624
>Not too difficult execution, defensive, good pokes
Kazumi matches the rest but she's not defensive. Check out Alisa if you haven't already. I played her in Tag 2 and moved onto Kazumi because I wanted a more offense oriented character.
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>>180427668
The believability of it. Something anout 2D fighters just feels so bland. I grew of on SoCal so maybe that's why. Siegfried main
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>>180428305
>>180428521
>>180428579
Thanks anons, I begin my Kazumi journey today
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MOMMY
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>>180428717
i fucking love that artist. his takane shijou art is so good
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>>180428579
i started as alisa but moved to kazumi because I felt like I won because of gimmicks and unfamiliarity as opposed to just raw tekken

also i like the idea of being such a bootleg mishima

i still play kazumi pretty defensive
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it'd be cool if they actually gave Lili some kazama style moves in T8
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>>180428048
Can I have tips too desu
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>>180428873
Jin tutoring Asuka, Feng, and Lili when
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>>180427627
>just want asuka's workout top
>got the shorts, assumed top would be in next rainbow chest since that's how it went with eliza and miguel's rare clothes
>literally nothing but hit effects for last three days
I envy you for escaping this hell.
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>>180428873

>Lili now has a Cancan
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new to Tekken and I noticed that I really, really fucking love punishing and turtling in this game. However, I don't think Kazumi is suited for my tastes. Which easy or intermediate characters would fit me?
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>>180429137
>want kazumi's vintage set
>3 pieces
>have gotten 0
>800 matches of treasure battle
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>>180427668
No Soul Calibur 6 Tekken's my second fav
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>>180429080

Who do you play friend. I don't know every character so forgive me if I can't
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>>180429243
Asuka
Jack
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There is nothing more satisfying than hearing Lucky Chloe's or Law's K.O scream.
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Is Gigass really that bad?
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>>180429392
>beat Law
>BUKAAAAAAAWWW
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>>180429243
Give jin a shot my dude. He does a nice mixup of aggression and defense. Kind of a, play it slow, force them to make a mistake, then hammer them down kind of character
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>>180429243
Asuka, Xiayou, Steven, Alisa
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>>180428873
It would be better if she gets moves that look and act similarly, but are slightly different as though they've been learned by observation. Think Wind Hook Fist vs. Wind God Fist.
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>>180429243
>punishing
Whiff, block or both? For whiff punishing Asuka fits well. She was the first character I learned because her moveset felt very intuitive to me. I still miss f2 for whiff punishing.
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>>180429290
Soul Calibur 6? Haha anon shouldn't they make a fifth soul calibur before a sixth?
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>>180429473
The move takes 11 frames and is performed While Standing from a crouch
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Who is the best Kazumi
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>>180429351
New PS4 player. Was playing Lili but decided I didn't want to be forced to commiting to side steps so planning to switch to Dragunov.
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>>180429603
Me eventually
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>>180429598
I might agree with you if I didn't have so much fun playing ZWEI.
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>>180429726
me too! I hope we ditto at evo one day! (*^▽^)/
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>>180429424
>Beat eliza
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>>180429603
Me until a couple of seconds ago when I got wrecked by a Fighter Paul.
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>>180429680

Oh ok. I don't really play Drag but I know a few things about him, even combos. I'd be able to help out more if you picked him instead. Whatever you do, do NOT keep switching characters, it's the worst thing in Tekken. Stick to one person and learn the game with them, only then can I recommend switching characters around.

I could add you on PS4 and we can have a few matches so I can show you what you're doing wrong, if you want
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>lucky chloe is actually really fun
Oh God. Why?!
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>>180429938
Me right now after winning the runback.
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>>180430059
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What kinda gimmicky outfits do you guys rock, /tekgen/?
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>>180429137
Funny enough, now that I finally got THOSE shorts I might start going for Asuka's workout shorts
For some reason, my game refuses to give me the fucking pants I want
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>finally to the finals in a tournament for the first time
>get opponent down to a fraction of health every round
>choke every single time
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>>180430034
I know. That is why I am trying to pick ONE person. I went from Panda to Lili and hopefully want to settle on Drag.
Sparring would be nice. My PSN is DeathKiller49. Ignore the edgy name.
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>>180430174
>Tan skin
>Summery shorts
>Tank top
>Glasses
>Josie
Dream girl tbqh
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>>180430059
WAN TSU FREE FO FI SIS
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Why is the customization so bad?
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>>180430174
ZANKOKU NA TENSHI-
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>>180430315

Ok I'll add you. Unfortunately It's pretty late here so I can't play today. I'll show you Drag's combos too.
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>>180430496
good taste
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>>180430457
Not sure. I wanted to give Eliza long hair only to find out no such option exists. Something such as that not being available grinds my nerves.
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if you main any of the following, don't talk to me:
Bryan
Josie
Asuka
Dragunov
Akuma
Eliza
Paul
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>>180430457
It can be good, you just gotta get creative.

It is pretty limited at the moment, though. I'm hoping they'll expand on it over time.
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>>180430595

>Bryan.

But why? Bryan is h o n e s t
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>>180430595
HAHA SOMEONE COULDN'T HANDLE THE FIST!!
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>>180430585
This bothers me too, mostly because it's been in at least the last three games so to go so far backward feels weird.

I mean, it was always bullshit having to pay over a million g just to get one piece of the overall hairstyle (you basically get stuck with a mullet until you can get the rest of the money for a fringe or something), but still.
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>>180430595
>TFW your main and sides are all on this guy's autism spectrum
lmao
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>>180430595
I'm currently talking to you whether you like it or not, anon.

t. Eliza main
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>>180430565
Yeah, its late for me too, and thank you.
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>>180429760

Sometimes I really wish SC wasn't in Pachinko Hell and or Dead/Fucked over.

Dirty Patroklols main here. Just enjoyed dispensing justice and I WIN whenever possible, but he's still kind of a shit.

>>180427668

I play mostly everything, and Tekken's one of them.
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>>180430457

>no gi option for asuka
missed opportunity
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>>180430751

Sent. My PSN is Genexea just to make sure.

Nice profile background
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What's a Chicken reversal? Been playing since T4 and never heard of it till now.
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>>180427668
Tekken is what got me into fighting games. I'm hoping to get Rev 2 soon.
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>>180431017
You don't have to lie here anon
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>>180431103
Seriously, I played casually till now.
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>>180431017
when someone parries you, press f+1+3 if the move that got parried was a left attack, press f+2+4 if it was a right attack. You have to buffer the input since it can't be done on reaction. So you have to predict the counter
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>>180430457
All I want are some more barefoot options. Most girls have pretty much none atm.
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>tfw the Drag player tries to mix me up with whatever sweep cancels not realizing the plain sweep would work every time
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>>180428048
happen to have any cool steve tips coach
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*single tear rolls down my cheek*
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>>180431017

A chicken is a way to reverse a parry.

For example, you can chicken out of Asuka's parry depending on what limb got parried. Let's say I do Heihachi's ff2, and Asuka parried it, I can chicken out of it by pressing f2+4 the moment I get parried.

However, If I did Heihachi's ff3 istead, I would have to press f1+3 instead.
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When are we getting Kiryu and Majima?
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>>180431126
>>180431246
Sounds hard as hell. Thanks lads.
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>>180431253
majima is just a chloe clone
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>>180431253
>majima
I'd quit my job and burn bridges with all of my loved ones just to religiously learn him
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>>180431306
it takes something to get used to, you don't have to do it on reaction you can just buffer the command
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>>180431253
Mid next year at the earliest since Toobie is coming this winter and Samus early next year.
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>>180430928
Added, and t-thanks.
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>>180431194

Sorry bub, I couldn't tell ya. Try to frame trap people into your b1 so it Counter Hits is the best I can give you.
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>>180429393
He's not great, but keep in mind Tekkens tiers are all much closer than most other fighting games, and maybe 1% of people in these threads play at a level where they matter.
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>>180430174
'Murica!
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>>180430174
I stole this P5 one from a video
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>>180431532
Red white and Dew
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I'm so fucking horrible at this game, the only character I can play is Katarina because she has a fucking 1 button auto combo
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>>180430174
I think her shirt would look better if it was red or white
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>>180430174
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>>180430174
xiaodoka
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>>180431675
Went with red, think you're right. Makes it look more like a boob window, one single garment than some kind of bodice thing.
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>>180431532
Kek! That's actually fantastic. I'm assuming you can't colour the shield?
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>>180431841
Oh, I like this one.
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>join a tournament
>first match is against a beginner rank Katarina
>has a bunch of 1st and 2nd place finishes
>get worried I'm about to get my ass kicked by some smurf
>mfw he just spams 4
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>tfw someone pity's you by almost letting you win until the last minute until they kick you as just as you are about to finish them

I wanna die
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Anyone else running into alot of laws spamming dragon tail? Shit fucked me up really bad first few times i ran into it. It reminds me of SF4 flowchart Kens.
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>>180432234
I met one that ended dodging me everytime he matched up with me after I tore him a new one.
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>>180430174
HERMITO PURPLE
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Public service anouncement
You can body 90% of Katarinas if you use a counter hit launcher after the 2nd hit of her hop kick.
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>>180432375
I have the same exact custom for Heihachi
Does he have a purple or yellow hit effect? Would be perfect for Hermit Purple or Hamon
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What am I better off using if I want to be matched with people at my level and not pros who will kick my ass before I am able to move: quick match or ranked?
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>>180432479
I gave him the Japanese SFX hit effect
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>>180429473
A move that takes 11 frames to come out, that you do while rising from a crouch
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Well which Mishima should I go for, Heihachi or Kazuya?
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>>180432505
the correct answer
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>>180430397

Ooooh yeah!
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>>180432375
kek
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how the hell do people play patient defensive poke characters

I freak out if I'm not button mashing and trying to be on the offensive at all time
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>>180432590
Devil jin
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>>180432714
I did try him out but he doesn't feel fun. And I'm not a fan of his u4 shenanigans.
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how does the TOOL ASSISTED bot work?
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>>180432676
Fighting game fundamentals and not being a spastic retard helps
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>>180432819
how do I learn fundamentals though
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time to add lili to characters that piss me off i guess.
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>>180432771
Asuka
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>>180432874
I don't even understand how to play Lili.
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Is there a better feeling then making noticeable improvements in your play? I'm blocking and reacting to shit I never did before and it feels great
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Can someone give me some tips for how to play Paul?
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How exactly do I play offensively without getting my ass handed to me? It seems like any time I try to get offensive I end up blocked and punished for it
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>>180432909
Didn't enjoy her as much either and I really wanted to as well. Her big hands in TTT2 didn't help as well.
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>>180432676
It's a personal thing but I have kinda lousy reflexes and execution, so I like defensive poke types because it's simple and lets me pick my spots.

It feels good to let spazs harmlessly bounce of your block then hit them back with your pokes that you know beat whatever they're doing
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>>180432676
I don't like taking risks, eliminate random shit as much as possible by playing keep out. also outplaying people is more fun than gorrilla rush down.
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>losing to the easy difficulty AI
please help me

the only character I can do okay with is paul, and I don't like him
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I don't know why Heihachi put all that work into a youth serum in TTT2, he should have just talked to Law. Motherfucker looks younger every game.
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>>180433019
Try Dragunov. He's an unga bunga beginner friendly character.
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>>180432972
I had the same problem. Look up frame data if you haven't already, it helped me a lot. Who's your main?
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>made a macro for taunt jet upper
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>>180432947
qcf2
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What rank is /Tekgen/. I hit expert today.

I quickly demoted to mentor
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>>180432923
spam db3 and pray they dont block
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>>180432947
Learn how to sway
Learn how to fist
Learn demo man
Play more on the patient side but know when to apply pressure. Paul hits like a truck and your opponents will be uncomfortable because of this.
Dash into hopkick beats a lot of moves. It won't work all the time but it's good for catching people pushing too many buttons.
If you really get into him it's advise learning low parries. Those combined with his reversal make your defense very tight which is good because Paul can punish hard.
In the lower ranks, his crush move b1+2 is amazing. Throw in his command tackle if you see your opponent isn't very good at breaking grabs.

Finally, d1+2, his shoulder charge is very very quick.
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>>180432947
d+4,2,1+2
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>>180433323
What does + mean in this notation
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>>180433258
9th kyu
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>>180432874
I'd probably piss you off.
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>>180433372
press them at the same time.
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Im having a hard time at some players who rush down where it feels like an endless stream of 1-2s or dead buttons where I either
>block forever
>try to duck or sidestep where I get hit
>return a 1 where they either block it or just counter hit

When I do the same thing or at least imagine, I continuously get punished and it never feels like I can pull off the same H-M pressure as other people do online.
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>>180432972
Know your basic moves, you don't want to be pushing constantly with unsafe ones, that's why it feels like you're getting stuffed all the time.

You also have to know when to back off, nobody can maintain constant uninterruptible offense
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>>180433152
Alisa
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>>180433258
Grand Master. I think I'm going to stop and practice getting Eliza b4 cancels and her moon glide extenders down more consistently before moving onto green ranks.
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>>180433665
Alisa is a defensive character;. You need to constantly bait your opponent into making mistakes.
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>>180433258
Currently on Vanguard. I'm almost out of Green Ranks.
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>>180433258
Fighter with Nina
Thinking about playing Gigas for a bit instead
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Fuck. I just want Paul's flame pants and jacket
I've got everything else
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>>180434131
please enjoy the hit effects for characters you will never play
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>people who think tiers matter
Saint is best with jack-7 who is b tier

He could make top 8 with solo lucky chloe
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>>180434258
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>>180433258

Got to Brawler today from Beginner in one session. I could've hit Vanguard if I didn't make dumb mistakes during some of my matches, too.
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>>180433750
How exactly do I bait them? Last match I had I was trying to be more defensive and the other person was literally standing still waiting for me to attack
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still haven't gone online
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why do i torture myself trying to play a very honest character like miguel when all i fight are these fucking dishonest as fuck assholes with mids that look like lows and vice versa. im tempted to just practice leo or something at this point
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>>180434689
>Honest
>Dishonest
Enough
This is a scrub excuse
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The main reason BGM is bad,No passion,stupid,
Player 3000~~~ hahaha
Die early STEAM Tekken7
PC players are the next person,
Cancel PS4 to change BGM settings
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>>180434910
but who was phone?
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>>180434910
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So /Tekgen/, who's the character that you don't even use but you're starting to hate because you keep unlocking items for that you don't want?
Feng
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>>180434910
has anyone gone so far to do use more what look like
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>>180434764
I know im just right now mad cuz i fought a hard as fuck to read lili and immediately after that a feng who i admittedly dont have much experience with
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>>180435239
WAN
TSU
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>>180435239
HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHA NEVER POST HERE AGAIN
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>>180435239
lucky chloe and alisa belong in the top left quadrant and you know it
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>>180435239
>Eliza
>Not anime

What?
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how do you beat Nina's spam
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>>180434431
if you get a life lead, they need to come to you, plain and simple. If they get a lead you need to break their defense with the grab options given to you and same well framed attacks. Getting a counter-hit with Alisa is easy because she can be very deceptive with her WS attacks. You can also use your insanely fast mid pressure attacks like f+4 and b+1, or some of your low options like the infamous d/b+3.
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Man I can't keep jumping from characters to character until Dragon Ball FighterZ comes out, but I can't find anyone to play!

Steve full potential is out of reach for my newbie ass
Heihachi and Violet are the same
Kazumi is ass in later ranks once people know your moveset
Katarina doesn't earn respect when you beat someone, you just hear how easy she is
Kuma has no options for customization
Xiayou is a mix of Kuma and Steve
Eliza is weird and I hate DP motions

It's gotten to the point where I just hate the game and hit random during tournaments with my friend
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>>180435239
>Miguel and Paul
>Not anime
Literally karate man and Yankee
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>>180434910

What
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>>180434960

Nice old may may there, grandpa
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Is Nina okay for a newer player? I'm not sure who I should main for this game. I'm new to tekken but not to fighters.
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>>180435649
Not just karate man, but retarded comic relief as well.
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BACK
THAT
ASS
UP
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>>180435775
The answer is about as far from yes as can be. She's the prettiest girl in the game and her tatas are something else, but she's one of the harder characters to use effectively.
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>>180435887
what the fuck
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>>180435775
Nina has one of the highest skill ceilings, you can try but it's going to be a journey
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>>180435887
>reasons i dodge feng
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>>180435926
>>180435969
What makes her so difficult?

Is there a beginner tier list?
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>>180436064
beginner friendly characters

>alisa
>kazumi
>asuka
>bob
>claudio
>miguel
>paul (teaches bad habits)
>dragunov (teaches bad habits)
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>>180436190
drag bad habits?
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>>180436190
>Bad habits
Like what?
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>>180435639
>kazumi is ass
You're ass
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>>180436190
Every single one of these characters can teach bad habits.
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>>180435239
Eliza is anime as fuck.
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>>180435451
Eliza is just a vampire. She's not a very anime vampire.
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>>180435239
>heihachi is more anime than kazuya
how??? kazuya has a tragic backstory, a "not even my final form" devil form, a final devil form, and he shoots beams
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Why can't I put the fish toy on Kazumi wtf
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>>180436883
The real question is, why the fuck is there no hair down option for Kazumi.
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>>180436064
Nina is complicated because she has a large movelist and requires precise movement execution. She has many moves which can be canceled into sidestep, during sidestep she has a move (side step +1) which is a quick short range mid that can be cancelled isn't a forward or back sway by tapping forward. Sways can also be cancelled into sidesteps. If you properly cancel ss+1 you are literally at +8 on block (you can get some hits for free on hit I believe) and can use whatever sway move you want or immediately sidestep cancelninto your sidestep moves or even another ss+1. This requires a lot of practice and character familiarity. Also some people complain that her backdash is harder than other characters because they suck dick at tekken and don't properly use Korean backdash cancelling. Proper kbdc will never result in accidental qcb inputs. Also instant ws+1 combos are challenging (necessary to unlock ninas best combos and wall carries).
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>>180436925
Hopefully the DLC patch with the costumes adds shit like this in
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>>180436835
>vampire

More like a mix between vampire and succubus since Harada doesn't know the difference between them.
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>>180436064
She's just a difficult character to use effectively. For example, King is the only person with more chain grabs than her, and his damage output dwarfs hers.
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>>180436262
Whoever said drag is likely to produce bad habits is fucking high. Drag is not at all more likely than others to produce bad habits. Asuka is a character that could do this, as she has poor punishment at i10 and a plethora of gimmicky crush moves which might get in the way of learning proper defense and punishment.
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>>180437018
Her chain throws are not essential to her game. Her combo damage is likely greater than kings desu.
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what the fuck
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>>180437325
looks like you're not a "legit user"
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>>180436980
question about Nina, why is iws+1 combos important when she can get insane non-wall damage, along with good wall carry, with qcf+1 instead?
From the Nina's I've played against they can launch, do qcf+1 two or three times, tailspin, and send you across the map. Can't imagine why you'd really need to learn iws+1.
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As an Eliza main, I should do the correct backdash cancel in order to avoid unwanted specials right? Or would the QCB shortcut work just fine?
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>>180436925
You can't even give her the Dead Anime Mom Hair she has in story mode
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>>180430496
change to a lighter shade of blue
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>>180429243
Characters with strong punishment would be Jin, Josie, Kazuya. Other characters have solid punishment but those ones are pretty up there.

>>180437392
It is less important in this game but still viable as her furthest wall carry combos utilize iws1 still. I don't play Nina so can't comment for sure on the damage stuff but I'm sure iws1 appears in her highest damage shit. It always does, it's just that good.
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>says 5 bars
>round begins, instantly drops to 1
>can't even fucking move
Except its fine for him. I am actually way too mad now
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Will you seriously not lose matches if you disconnect? Even if it's down to 2-2?
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>>180437749
This way lies the dark side. Ignore these thoughts and focus on getting good.
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>>180437865
I'll get good... just one more rank? I swear... haha
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>>180437749
Nope. You don't even lose your promotion chance either. Found out when my connection shit itself for a second. They really need to add some sort of penalty.
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>>180437540
You can give it to Asuka, kind of.
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>>180436064
>>180436190
Also Shaheen.
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>>180437918
Of course a fucking rage quitter would post on 4chan. You are literally cancer. Go back to SF you piece of shit.
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>>180438043
that was a joke. please don't get angry at me
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>>180437918
Aris' diatribe about how to gauge success in Tekken actually helped me a lot. Instead of focusing on winning, which will discourage you because you'll do a lot of losing, try and focus on doing little things correctly, such as whiff punishing correctly and not giving up rounds to stupid shit.
>inb4 >aris
>implying you've never heard the phrase "those who can't do, teach"
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>>180437749
>>180437926
This is good to know actually. Thank you, Anon.
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>>180438210
I've never understood that phrase. Am I legit autistic, because if you can't do anything why teach? That's not going to help anyone
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>>180438210
>aris
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How do I do mix ups properly with Lili? I think I'm using the wrong character to play defensive-poke style.
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>>180435887
>didn't techroll
>just holding back
they deserved it.
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>>180438319
There's actually no way out, that's a true combo
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>>180435887
That move is too good.
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What's Kazuya's move where he spins around and then punches upwards?
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>>180438367
No, it's not. If you knew the mechanics of the game then you wouldn't spout bullshit.
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>Playing ranked on PS4.
>PSN disconnects me from the match in round 1.
>Try to go Online again and it say that I was given a penalty for "leaving" the last match.

What's the penalty? My rank was affected somehow, was it?
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>>180438367
>no way out
>true combo
no one forces then to get back up like that. they could've just rolled to the side.
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>>180438272
It's classically been used as an obnoxious bon mot, but there is some truth to it. There are lots of college professors that teach subjects in which they have no professional experience, and there have always been people like Aris, who suck at what they do but they have a decent amount of knowledge and an ability to convey said knowledge to people less experienced than them in a way that works.
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Who's a good Lili player I can watch and learn from?
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>>180438532
Lightning Screw Upper
b1+4 or b (hold) 1+4

>>180437253
But she lacks King's good oki after finishing a combo.
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>>180438676
>Lili
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Anyone know what steve's best ender(s) is for oki? I've been using df1+2 and PAB f2,1 but they just reset to neutral and I'm not sure if there are ways to keep pressure going
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>>180435239
All of tekken is anime as fuck
get out of here kiddo
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>>180438298
Lili doesn't really have any good 50/50 mixups.
good moves overall would be
ff4, f3, df3, df1, df3+4, d3, ws4, b1~f,

good long range whiff punishment
df3+4, f23, 31, f4
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Is anyone else excited for the PC NA Tekgen Tournament? I hope I get to see a lot of new faces!
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>>180438831
When is it? Just bought a 1060
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>>180438676
kane & kenji for NA people

i personally like watching Shine from korea
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>>180438746
>her smile and optimism: gone
:(
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WHICH TEKKEN GIRL NEEDS A GOOD SATISFYING FUCK
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>>180438680
That king oki isn't much to write home about.
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>>180438987

Kat, no question.
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>>180438987

absolutely Ling Xiaoyu
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>>180439082
It's always good to have extra potential damage for oki though.
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>>180435239
The most incoherent of shitpost tiercharts, congrats
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why did kazumi have a baby and then try to kill it?

why just like not have the baby
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>>180439104
Is it just me or does Ling Xiaoyu look younger than she was on Tekken 4 and 5?
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>>180439104
Her hymen has not been destroyed because she's saving herself for Jin
Truly, a tragedy
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>>180439195
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I love LARPing as a Korean during Turbo Modes.
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>>180439143
sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nina gets better dmg off of df+2 than king does off a hkick + his df+1 landing on oki.

She definitely gets better wall damage I guarantee it.
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>>180438796
I've been slowly incorporating some of these and going by the list of top 15 moves, but I find myself getting stomped when going against faster paced characters and getting swept up in their momentum.
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>>180439303
Well you could go for a ground grab mixup if he chooses not to get up.

And yeah you're right. King lacks wall combo tools.
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I'm having trouble doing the KBD on pad. Sometimes I end up only getting the d/b, b motion and a b, b, d/b, d motion instead of the b, b, d/b motion. Will these phase out with time as I continue to practice?
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>>180439426
Well I managed to do it after awhile on pad so yes.
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>>180439409
If he chooses to get up and you go for ground throw you get launched. The mixup is generally df+1 or d+3 or d+2+3 if you are really reading they will lay flat after air iSW.
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>>180439372
put the fear of ff2, d3+4, db4, uf3, and her sidestep to dissuade them from pressing buttons.

also if you block something make sure to punish properly there is a punishment list somewhere out there.
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I'm getting so mad at this game. I can't do anything, my opponent always knows how to counter and what to do, I can't even manage a 1,1,2 punish because they block instantly. I can't even get up because they low kick me even when I tech roll
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>>180439545
Thank you anon. I've finding some success in the 1+2 punish and going to start doing more 2,4s. Hope you don't mind one last question but is the punch reversal any useful or is it more of a gimmicky trick, I practiced a bit in training mode but to use it in actual online seems like a tall task.
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>>180438319
>Techroll while face down
lmao fucking noobs like you don't know you can't techroll out of that situation.
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>>180439783
you can turn then techroll dumbass. check yourself
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>>180439721
its shit, only use it if you want establish dominance that says 'bitch i know you were going to do that and instead of mattahorning your punch i decided to do a measly counter' or something like that.
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>Eliza
>Akuma
>projectiles

Why even bother, they're completely useless in Tekken lol. They don't even work as pressure.
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>>180439914
Kazumi's tiger projectile is pretty useful as a pissoff
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>>180439847
dumbass, do you even know what techroll is? are you mistaking techroll for roll sideways? jesus christ YOU check yourself.
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what characters have small but effective core movepools

I'm fucking retarded and bad at memorization and stances
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>>180439946
no, dumbass, techrolls can be done beyond when you first land on the floor, the game gives you multiple oppurtunities to perform the action.
The dumbass that got cheesed by the Feng could've rolled to her side, then techrolled if Feng did further action.
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>>180439962
miguel
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>>180439914
Eliza's work well when you bait the opponent into thinking you're only throwing projectiles. Cancel into her moon glide 3,4 and it catches them moving.
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>>180440012
>techrolls can be done beyond when you first land on the floor.
Except you cannot techroll when you land on the floor face down. How about you go learn the basics of ground options first before posting.

We all know what happened to him, he tried to get back instead of side rolling but god damn, don't fucking suggest him to techroll when he hit the floor facedown because you can't do that.
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>>180439914
Hadoukens pretty useless and you can punish it pretty much everytime he uses it
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>>180438987
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What's the thoughts behind the rage art? Tbh its a neat feature and I find it cool bandai is trying to bring in a new element, but I also feel like its a cheap out at times. Should it be banned from rank matches?
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/tekgen/ tourney signups are live!
US/PC:
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When?
Starting 1st of July until 31st of July

Rules:
FT3
Double elimination bracket with random seeding
tourney settings (60 seconds, 3 rounds)
There must be a spectator.
Spectator must be someone who also enters the tournament
First match must be random stage.
Loser can pick character and stage.
Winner can't switch character.
item moves allowed
You have 3 days to complete your match.
Everyone can play their matches until top 8.
Report matches on discord or /tekgen/ thread.
Top 8 will be streamed by me.
5 EUR steam card for winners

PS4 will be in August.
Any questions or remarks? you me or discord me.
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Remember to play the robot
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>>180440326
No you fucking dumbass. Telling someone to techroll isn't an implication that they just techroll right when they hit the floor. Techrolls can be done in multiple instances like I already stated, jhust because you can't understand that is your problem. But the person getting gimped should have just techrolled. Roll over onto your back then get a tech, easy as shit. Do you need me to explain to you the stages of that next?
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>>180440558
I AM THE ROBOT
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>>180439104
I agree
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>>180440534
It's good at times but you're better off doing the rage drives.
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>>180440606
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>>180440554
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>>180440534
Because desperation moves are an accepted part of modern fighting games.
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Is Fairlight_Excalibur a pro tekken player
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>>180440534
>When I calmly think about it
It's a solid addition, they definitely made the right choice having both arts and drives, good addition.
>When I get killed by a rage art
fucking bullshit hacks gook devs fucking cheap bullshit motherfucker
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>>180440534
the only bullshit rage art is akuma's
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Anyone got any tips canceling Eliza's d1 into f, d, d/f,1? It's the only cancel I can't pull off aside from b4 into super.
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>guaranteed counter-hit

I know this is probably stupid but what does that actually mean?
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>>180440554
>Tourney
>items allowed
>namefag
FUCK OFF NEVER COME BACK HERE
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>>180440709
Low tier god pls
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>>180440534
Terrible addition. Took punishment that would usually take skill and game knowledge to accomplish and put onto a button that does all the work for them. Also too big of an anti pressure tool in general, so fuck it. RAs were a mistake.
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Could we make a list of best player for each specific character in the OP or is it too early for that?
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>>180440585
Thanks for telling me you literally don't know what a fucking techroll is. Go fucking learn the game scrub.
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>>180440534
The only rage arts I don't like are the ones with huge pushback and so not punishable
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>>180440860
There's already one in the character info sheet.

>>180440887
It's obvious you don't know what techrolls are, so please hang yourself by the nuts
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Someone give me a quick rundown on Kazumi
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>>180440759
do it faster.
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>>180441005
SHI NE HEIHACHI
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>>180440786
Don't forget
>PC ONLY
>Discord
>challonge instead of smash.gg
>steam card
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>>180433258
Vanquisher. Took me a week to get past Ursurper
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>>180441005
Best Senran.
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>tfw when you finally reach green ranks
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>>180441069
God damn it.
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>>180441068
I mean, obviously, but so far it cancels into qcb1 or nothing.
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>>180441085
FIGHT ME
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>>180441194
Meant qcf.
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look at
THIS
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>>180438656
Aris doesn't suck at fighting games lmao come on man
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>>180441381
DON'T BULLY ELIZA
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>>180441389
He's not really anything special either, but I was just making a point.
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>>180441381
LEAVE THAT SLEEPY VAMPIRE ALONE YOU FURRY FUCK
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>>180440534
Rage arts are bullshit with damage reduction. You can't use your most damaging moves to eat through their armor because it's reduced by nearly half
The meta is somewhat cool though. I play it like Persona and reset outside of rage to kill them before they get it or render the armor useless.
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>>180441467
That's not a good way to think about others. To think that is to think you're not special yourself.
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>>180437379
how is that even possible
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rating on yoshimitsu lads?
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>tfw you finally parry Law's junkyard for the first time
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>>180441675
anon that's rude don't do it again
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Nina is so cool, why does she have to be a shitty input character to play as
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>struggle a bit with KBD on 1p side
>change to 2p
>can do it much more consistently

Neat.
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>>180440923
Oh i had no idea, thanks.
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>>180441896
It's easier to do it on 2p side.
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Threadly reminder, Tekken is a trash game because mids can't be blocked crouching even though they look like you can block them crouching and the game is inferior to all fighting games because of it
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>>180442035
>>180441896
do you just use the palm technique? If so, not surprised. It kind of just works it out by itself.
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>>180442117
SNIFF
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>>180440456
You can combo into them, air fireball isn't shit, at extreme range you prevent someone from approaching you and they have too ss.
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Starting to feel like Eliza is a stick-only character because of the strict timing for a few cancels that I'm finding impossible to do on pad. Maybe I shouldn't have dedicated so much effort into her.
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>>180439962
Shaheen. 60 moves total.
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>>180442117
Look man you either git gud or post more of that good shit make your choice
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>>180442124
Not them but I'm also finding it easier 2P on pad as well. Then again, I heard movement in general is easier on pad.
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Is Slim bob in the game or will he ever be?
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>>180442117
>King player is terrible
Big surprise
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>>180435639
Try Josie.
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>>180440757
Just jump out of it homie. It's a grab and can't hit people airborn.
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>>180431253
But we already have Majima
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>>180442283
>>180442335
Anon it's bait pls don't fall for obvious shit, this is something the tripfag lucifer actually believes though
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>>180441675
I fucking love low parries
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>>180441832
Honestly while getting to the point where you are a really high level nina is quiet difficult you can play a serviceable version of the character with her easy stuff. I'd just play a dilumbed down version of her using the easy tools but focus on developing the tough stuff as you go. Spend half your time in pmode getting all her shit figured out and enjoy playing her.
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>>180442484
I kind of feel uncomfortable looking that picture. King is a nice guy, so I feel like he'd instinctively hold back on women.
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>>180442567
He also wouldn't fuck up the execution like that.
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Thinking of picking up Tekken

Will it stay alive on PC for awhile?
also how bad is usign xb1 remote?
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>Tfw bad at all the characters for beginners
>Even bad at Katarina
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PS4 ASIA LOBBY? COME ONE
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>>180442271

Except his slide input is a pain in the ass and is crucial for playing him effectively.
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>>180442874
Do you live in America? I can play at any time of the day and find matches in ranked no problem.
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>>180438532
He has like a half dozen that could be described as this.
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Well doing the hellsweep to thunder god fist is fun for combos.
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>>180441664
best waifu
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>>180441664
fuckin wierd

dude runs on his swords sometimes
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>>180435239
>Yoshimitsu
>not anime

He's a katana-wielding space alien, how much more anime do you need?
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>>180439962

Kazumi
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>>180442874
PS4 community will last a lot longer, steam charts already show the game slowly dying though it's still alive (just checked now peak in last 24 hours was 7k players right now it's nearly 4k which isn't too bad)
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>>180443168
Why will it last longer on ps4?

Is there any crossplay?
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>>180440558
>>180440601
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What are usually people's preference for sticks? Thinking of picking one up to help with some motions I absolutely cannot do on pad.
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>>180443168
>right now its nearly 4k

bear in mind its morning in europe and night in the US

about as far from peak time as it gets
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How do you play Lars?
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>>180443228
Not him but personally, I think both will last a good amount of time. There's no crossplay unfortunately. PC does have the advantage of having much, much lower input lag.
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>>180440534
Rage arts suck.

>>180441664
With this one I feel like the Yoshi rework that began with Tekken 6 is actually finished. At first he seemed like a mishmash of random gimmicks that really don't mesh together along with a bunch of gaping holes in his kit and hilariously garbage traits like 2, 2 being negative on hit. Yoshi was decent in TTT2, but I think he's genuinely good in Tekken 7.
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>>180443228
Basically because of tradition and PS4 will also be the tournament standard system to use. No crossplay mainly because of xbone

>>180443353
tbf last time I checked during peak it was at 4k too with a lower 24 hour peak too
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Goddamn it feel good to punish Law players with Paul. Fuck you all Law players.
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>close match
>adrenaline starts coming in
>lose because hand is shaking too much
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>>180442907
It's easy on a stick but a nightmare on pad/keyboard.
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>>180443486
No crossplay is because of Sony being greedy. Not because of the Xbox. I also wouldn't be surprised if tournament were held on pc with this coming Evo because of lower input lag, which Saint and JDCR have been complaining about on ps4.
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>>180443320
this is amazing
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>>180443543
Maybe you need someone to support you while you play? You can get rid of nervousness with someone cheering you on.
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>>180443541
Are reverse traps gay as well, then?
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>>180443594
no crossplay between consoles is because of sony but if it was just on PC and PS4 it would have crossplay between the two no doubt. The game came out on xbone for pretty much no reason since tekken has always been on playstation and it's the way more popular console this generation. Xbone also happens to be the worst looking version lol

inb4 dumb console wars replies
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>>180443541
>Asuka
>Massive waifufag, he fantasizes about Asuka getting raped

Asuka main here, that simply isn't true at all.

I fantasize about Asuka raping me
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>>180443541
>>180443824
As an Asuka main I fantasize that I'm using Jun because she was so much better.
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Test.
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>>180443594
No tourney that gets money from bamco or sony is gonna use PCs lol
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Thoughts of Lee players?
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Three weeks in and almost 70 hours and I still haven't found my main.
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>>180443916
No she isn't lol. Maybe if you like generic 90s anime females
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>>180444043
I meant she played better you fucking waifufag
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>>180443320
That's so cool. Harada really loves his easter eggs huh?
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>>180443320
TECHNOLOGY
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Who is the Satania of Tekken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR6Z_Rq7WjI
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>Decided to see this pure kino again
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411951/
This was unironically my first experience with the series and after all this years those scenes with Christie still makes me diamonds.
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>>180444136
Still wrong, she was lame as fuck
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>>180444292
now you're just being bitter, she was way better than Asuka in TTT2
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>>180444043
Why are everyone's clothes shiny in this game?
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defend thsi
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>>180444243
She acts exactly like Lili
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>>180443320
yea and if Miguel RAs alisa you get digital distortion, not red around the edges.
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>>180444364
it'd be perfect if they told you about the points in game
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>>180443320
Alisa's pose and walking animation is so weird.
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>>180444364
>he keeps making the same post
There's nothing to defend, it's good and reasonable.
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>>180444364
Aside from Ruler and dark Blue ranks being completely pointless looks okay to me
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>>180444491
I don't know the point to them, but what makes it pointless?
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One thing I've always enjoyed about fighting games is that despite being a cluster of anime cliches, the application is so solid that it tends to make up for a lot of the stupidity and shortcomings. Like this, I fucking love seeing this sort of thing and I don't even know what to call it.
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>>180444640
There are too many ranks and too few people that can reach that level, and the ones that do can most probably reach Emperor anyway
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>>180444812

P. Ling reached Tekken God back in Tag 2. It's reachable, but only by the 1% of players who are good enough for it.
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MOMMY

http://i.imgur.com/3wP5US1.jpg
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>>180444786
I also like how Kazuya has a normal, non-glowing eye for the first time since TTT1 in the final story scene.
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>>180444786
Maybe you should stop listening to people who dismiss everything they dislike as "anime cliches"
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>>180445415
isn't she a grandma?
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Why are there so many coons in blue ranks. Every time I message someone they always call me "bro"
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>>180445695
Jin's grandma to be exact
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>>180445728
LTG please go.
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>>180445548
What a worthless post. Learn to fucking read, and if you're actually implying that a series where the main character is a devil based on Vegeta isn't chock full of anime bullshit, you should kill yourself for the good of humanity.
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>>180431841
give me the color presets
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>>180444009
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Why is sidestepping so bad in this game?
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>>180446064
meant for
>>180430174
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>>180446096
because you dont know which direction to step in for each move
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>>180446096
Why are you so bad at sidestepping?
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>>180445868
I stopped concerning myself with what's the current uncool things are after I left high school.
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>>180446096
they nerfed the amount of frames it takes and the distance. So now SSing in general relies on knowing character specific SS strats.
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>tfw your opponents figure out you can't perform your combos when facing left
guess I'll be a shitter forever
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I swear, Tekken is one of the games with the most amount of perfects, even at the highest level of play. Granted, it's also partly do to the lack of chip outside of very specific characters
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>>180438656
To be fair Aris would wreck most people at Soul Calibur
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>>180446163
what about Lili, isn't hers better
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>>180446203
Also high damage. Two right reads can easily get you a perfect. It's such a thrilling game.
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>>180446185
*fighting on 1P side*
>TEKKEN GOD PRIME HERE I COME, MOVE OVER SCRUBLORDS
*fighting on 2P side*
>Just absolutely fuck my shit right up
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>>180446185
Come on the game lets you pick what side you want, just keep picking left in single player and practice
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Finally decided on a main, Alisa
Advice for her?
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>>180446158
I guess you stopped concerning yourself with the meaning of words too, you fucking idiot. Nowhere did I imply that the anime cliches were a bad thing, I just stated the simple truth that they are there, you invented the negativity in that empty head of of yours along with the idea that I was listening to anyone else in the first place. Really, it's like you read an entirely separate post that happened to have a similar subject and responded to mine by accident. Don't talk down to others if you can't even read.
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>>180444043
Thank god the giant hands are gone.
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>>180446457
d/b+3, b+1, f+1+2 and d/f+4 are your best friends
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>>180446203
>a friend sent me that video with the tekken 2 opening theme over the sailor moon opening not two hours ago
>see this
Weird.

>>180446537
6th gen was not kind to Tekken, visually.
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Reminder that playing ranked roughly bewteen 13:00 and 17-00 will give you the best possible experience to level up.
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>>180438656
Not really the same thing. Aris has been playing competitive fighting games since he was a kid at like 15 or 16, entering tournaments and performing well and he's definitely a good fighting game player, he's still one of the best american tekken players though the skill gap has become increasingly bigger as Aris has decided to take more of the mentor roll and not really caring about entering tournaments or even placing high in them and mainly does commentary + teaching people about the game on his streams.

It really annoys me how all of these 13/15/17ers act like Aris is some guy who only has a couple years of experience of Tekken and just knows all of the data but doesn't know how to actually play well
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>>180446537
The big tits stayed luckily
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>>180446663
SNAP LILI'S NECK RIGHT THE FUCK NOW KING

DO IT, DO IT NOW
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>>180444348
To show off the engine. Have you noticed how many characters have some kind of cape, long coat or frills? To show off those physics even though they freak out at times.
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>>180446768
>tfw they clip through the floor
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>>180446457
If you like being aggressive, you won't do well with her initially. Alisa's style is methodically breaking down the opponent with swift elegance (poking and fast movement). If your health falls faster, you'll have a hard time making a comeback. Assess each round with keen awareness and patience!
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>tfw
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>>180446663
This is so wrong. King is suppose to be gay with Marduk.
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>>180446856
>that sweaty body
This turns me on the weird way
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>>180446457
Play Leo!!!!!!!!
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>>180446768
>overdo something to show off
>it doesn't even work that well to begin with
Sounds about right.
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>>180446847
>If you like being aggressive, you won't do well with her initially.
This is completely wrong, I think you meant to say.

If you play her aggressively, you will destroy shitters but one you get to a higher rank you will get the shit beat out of you for being aggressive
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>>180446975
Anon please, when we discuss the nature of a character, we speak of competent players versus competent players. Playing towards a proper playstyle is better than getting used to cheese tactics.
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I made it to Mentor
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>>180446663
see >>180441467
I understand he's been at it a long time, he still does a lot of dumb shit and his knowledge really does exceed his skill. Stop kissing his ass.
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>>180445950
I gotcha dude
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>>180447030
I didn't say he should use the shitter tactics i'm saying aggressive style beats shitters but 100% doesn't work at a higher level
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>>180446847
You have to play every character aggressively against shitters who keep mashing buttons when they are minus.
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Are qcb and qcf worth training muscle memory for? Playing Dragunov.
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>>180447060
I don't know which is sexier, that or Nina's carmen top.
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>>180431841
This is nice.
Eliza gothic lolita dress for everyone when?
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>>180447060
Whats with these titties jeez
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>>180447142
Yeah he got some good moves out of it that you want to use.
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>>180447060
Keep working hard dude
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>>180447092
>he still does a lot of dumb shit
like?

>>180447142
Yes????? What kind of question is that, dragunovs backswing blow (qcb+2) is really good and he has a good, safe launcher and a good low from qcf
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>>180447142
if you plan playing characters with wavedash sure
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>when Kazuya launches your every low
bullshit
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Anyone has any experience with this cheap ass stick? It's the only one available in my area.
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>>180447191
Things people who have been playing a series of games seriously for over two decades shouldn't be doing. Look, that conversation ended two hours ago, I already made my points.
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Hey I heard you guys were talking shit about me in this thread chimon bru keep down will ya and uh thanks for the dollarydoos really appreciate it now shut up you stoners
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>>180447303
Order online. I can guarantee that thing is not worth it.
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>>180447141
Well, when you fight those kinds of players, you might as well be playing against NPCs. So, they're not kept in mind. As the other person said, this is advice for fighting competently, offline or online, not fighting NPCs.
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>>180447291
If it makes you feel any better, my Kazuya is utter trash and can't even get a WGF to connect.
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who thought salty 1-1s were a good idea
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>>180447347
SHH
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>>180447359
Thank you for giving advice to the 3 people here who are at orange ranks then.
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>>180447303
Stay with your pad or switch to keyboard/hitbox.
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>>180447381
Quick match is the real deathmatch
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>>180447370
TP is bullshit I hate it. And they just had to go and make every low that I have at least -13.
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>>180447347
>tfw I have his REmake playthrough playing in the background
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HOW THE FUCK DO I DO A LOW PARRY GOD AAAAA

I CAN BARELY EVEN REACT FOR THE REGULAR ASS CROUCHING BLOCK
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>>180447381
Someone who thought that giving fast fun for the rankedboars was a good idea.
You can play as much as you want in the lobbies or player match.
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>>180446953
I want to as well but she seems complicated
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>>180447395
you won't reach orange ranks without knowing the basics
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>>180447456
d/f
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>>180447113
Thanks my man
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>>180447450
What a fucking stoner lmao
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>>180446856
fucking kek
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>>180447456
For non-reactable lows, it's mostly a read.
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practice
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>>180447478
Well everyone below that mashes buttons at minus.
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>>180446856
It always between you and me, Skeletor.
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>>180447461
>Someone who thought that giving fast fun for the rankedboars was a good idea
You are aware revenge match is unlimited in arcades, right?
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>>180447470
She's not.
Forget the stance gimmicks. Just remember that d1+2 is BOK and b1,4 goes into KNK.
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>>180447456
Low parry when they are being super obvious about it. Like if Asuka does her low spin kicks. block the first one and parry the second one.

>>180447461
There should be no rematch or it should be best of 3 at least. People only dislike it because you can end with a tie.
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>>180447554
If you honestly believe that, you'll get crushed before even reaching yellow ranks.
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Is the charge-up thing so next move is a CH an universal thing or just many characters have it? How do I input it if it's the former?
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>>180447561
Are you aware that the lobbies aren't?
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>>180446203
High damage and momentum is a really powerful thing especially with the okizeme aspect
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>play someone
>have to stop after two games
>see him in the list
>play him again
What's the point? Why do they make you stop after 2 games?
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>>180447618
Hit all 4 attack buttons at once.
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>>180447620
T7 obbies are the biggest shit.
Stop defending the removal of features.
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>>180447618
It's universal and do not input it.
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>>180447618
It's universal but it's only for the cool factor or for practice mode, it's useless
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>>180447656
Oh, neat. Thanks.
>>180447698
>>180447751
It's good knowing it in any case.
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>>180447618
Note that it also makes you vulnerable to counters and removes your ability to block until it wears off or gets used. So it's basically useless.
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>>180447618
Leo can ki-charge after some of her moves.
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>yfw Asuka wont straighten her cousin out any time soon
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how do i taunt?
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Why do some of my moves have armor sometimes?
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I need you Asukas boobs
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How popular is Asuka? I like her style but hate playing popular people
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Is there a generally accepted tier list anywhere? I've found a ton and they don't really agree. Even the most recent ones are missing characters/are for the arcade version.
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>practice Dragunov
>get some 70 damage combos
>go online
>cant even do qcb or qcf anymore
>spam db+3, f,f+2

just end my life
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>>180447928
Property of best girl
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>>180447998
>Tier lists
Doesn't matter, not even at the highest level of play
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>>180447998
S tier: Character you like
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>>180447587
So why do you think mids should be crouch blocked.

Also post your rank
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GIVE ME SOME GOOD SNIFFS
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>>180448045
>>180448059

>le tiers don't matter XDD

Can I get a real answer? I don't care if every character is viable, I still want to see how they stack up.
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>>180448104
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>>180448105
BECAUSE TIERS DON'T MATTER YOU FUCKING FAGGOT MILLENNIAL
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>>180434491
Same, I want to perfect my movement and combos before attempting online.
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>>180448138
*BRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAPPPPP*
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>>180447902

1+3+4, if you're talking about Bryan's
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>>180448169
>all caps
>tiers don't matter
>millennial

You need to be 18 to post on this website, friend.
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>>180448032
Knock it off a bit Lili
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>>180448105
There is almost no fucking general consensus for a reason.
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>>180447998
The console characters are average (except Eddy, he's kind of shit)
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quick how do i counter that master raven vanish in the air unblockable move
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>>180448105
Lucky Chloe is broken tier.
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Post trashy costumes
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>>180448232
>>180448232
They don't idiot
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>>180434491
>>180448171
You guys are retarded. You're going to have perfect movement and still get fucked by mashing retards because you have no matchup experience and even when you get up higher you still won't have any fundamentals
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>Xiaoyu doesn't have a school uniform
>Alisa doesn't have a school uniform
>Lili doesn't have a school uniform
>Asuka doesn't have a school uniform
Where the hell are my school girl uniforms?
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>>180448330
asuka has
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>>180448105
S tier: characters that your opponent isn't familiar with

Shit tier: characters where your opponent knows the matchup
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>>180448330
They are grown up girls
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>>180448105
>>>/pol/
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>>180447140
Having a defensive playstyle actually works better. Shitters throw a shit ton of unsafe moves and you can easily force a whiff and punish.
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>>180448324
You say that like going Online with zero prior knowledge is going to be any better.

At least I'll have footsies and know my character, instead of having to learn those the hard way too.
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>>180448059
>>180448045
>>180448169
They seem to matter a lot to you.
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>>180448330
The season pass. Only 24,99$!
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>>180448105

The tier lists actually vary depending on who you ask. But universally, pretty much everyone considers Leo, Dragunov and Devil Jin to be the best characters.
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>>180448105
If you already discarded the opinion of pros what makes you think /tekgen/ would be any more accurate?
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Here is your only viable tierlist.
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>>180448372
I'm saying it literally does not matter but you're wasting your time now. You THINK you know your character but if you haven't played any real matches you are going to have no clue how to actually utilize your tools. You don't need perfect movement until you get to a higher level of players who start using movement more. You're skipping over a bunch of stuff because you feel like high level tactics are 100% necessary at low-mid level
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>>180448385
And Ling
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>>180448463
THEN WHAT DO I DO SENPAI
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>>180448330
They have them in the arcade version which means scamco and fraudhara will sell you ondisc content with the seasonspass.
Of course it is ok when notcapcom does it.
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>>180448474
If Ling is so good why does nobody play her?
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>>180448373
???? I was telling that anon they don't matter
Back to /v/ with you
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>>180448305
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>>180448556
A lot of times, the best characters in games are also harder to use as well.
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>>180448494
You just play the game and don't be a retarded trainingboar until you have your fundamentals down and start fighting people who start using the higher level tactics like kbd more often
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>>180448658
holy fuck that edit, saved
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>>180448658
>Trainingboar
What is this?
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>>180448556
I see Ling very often in tournaments
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>>180448556
>tanukana
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I think the reason why there's no rank penalties is because Harada understands tekken and he just added rank for fun. He doesn't take it seriously. People who fight seriously will get relief if they get disconnected in a demotion or promotion chance. People who fight unfairly will just cripple themselves.

Thus, disconnecting will never be fixed since there's nothing wrong, if this viewpoint is considered.
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>>180448730
someone who prefers to spend hours in training mode without as much actual playing
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>>180448521
Just fucking release the school uniform and swimsuits already, damn it!
The modders aren't fast enough to make them.
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How many players you think we'll eventually settle at?
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>>180448823
Where did you copypasta this bogus opinion from?
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>>180448739
I see P. Ling pretty often in tournaments and maybe tanukana, but that's prretty much it.
Then you got like 10 jack players and 20 Kings.
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>>180448823
TTT2 had penalties you 17er. You could see the percentage of how many matches they d/c'd from or whatever before you accepted their match too and if you d/c'd too much you'd get a temp ban from ranked
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>>180448849
>>>/fgg/
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>>180448840
What's with the mods anyway? The only ones I've seen is weird shit like Alisa's having Gigas deformed body
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>>180448849
0 eventually.
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>>180448849
Worldwide : 150-200k
Pc : 1k
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>>180448935
That sounds kind of hot.
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>>180448976
>Worldwide : 150-200k
t. never played a single fighting game
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>>180448976
100¥ has been deposited to your account
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>>180449059
ありがと
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Anyone on Steam wanna play? Europe.
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>>180449012
https://twitter.com/video_automata/status/876746111037300736
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Once in a lifetime.
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>>180448849
For some reason I get all zeroes every time I check that.
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>>180449142
w-wan tsu?
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>>180448442
Alisa is top tier!
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>>180449106
Sure
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>>180449516
Post your profile
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>>180449540
No you post yours.
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>>180434910
'no'
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>>180449610
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197995588541
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who will be the first to get the nerf bat
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>>180427086
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>>180449723
Drag.
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WHEN'S PAULS IDOLMASTER COSTUME
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>>180449723
Lili
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>>180435239
Truly Miguel is best boy
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>>180449723
Steve
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>>180449723
lars
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>>180449865
drag will get a buff again
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>>180449723
Josie
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So why does Lars have a random swedish track for himself in Twilight Conflict?
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>>180427086
REBELLION
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>>180449723
Gigas
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>>180449865
>>180449908
>>180449956
>>180449986
>>180450025
>>180450146
The correct answer was Alisa.
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>>180450220
Do you have legit autism?
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>>180448658
>Baek
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>>180448442
>loving jack
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>>180448658
Who's that behind Lars
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>>180450241
Yes.
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WHY IS D4 ON THE GROUND NOW ABLE TO GET PICKE UP BY JABS AND ELECTRICS
WTF ARE YOU SMOKING HARADA
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How do I bear
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Best boy

Anyone who says otherwise is wrong
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>>180450383
To compensate for the fact that it gives you a free backroll I think. I do prefer the old way tho
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>>180450383
don't mash risky stuff when you're in okezumi
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>>180450527
Oh noes how dare anyone be able to stand up.
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>>180450280
Jack is dope.
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>>180450449
I don't hate how he looks in tekken 7, but he looks a bit more attractive in tekken 6/tag 2.
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>>180450132
How many hours have you played anon?
Just Curious
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>>180450709
He looks greasy and nasty in Tekken 7.
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>>180450546
d4 was never in risk of getting hit by high attacks because why would a high hit someone on the ground?
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>>180450725
That's a very vague question. I've been playing tekken since I was super small. If you mean tekken 7 itself, then I've just been actively playing for a approximately almost a week (collectively).

>>180450768
I compared their appearances earlier, and I think you're right. His hair also looks cleaner in tekken 6 compared to his look in Tekken 7.
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The connection to the opponent has been lost.
>The connection to the opponent has been lost.
The connection to the opponent has been lost.
>The connection to the opponent has been lost.
The connection to the opponent has been lost.
>The connection to the opponent has been lost.
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>>180446960
>>180446792
Also note that there's only a few characters with long hair. They seem to be the only ones they managed to not have it clip through their bodies during fights which is why long hair customs aren't in the game. They'd probably bug out and clip through shit.
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>>180451196
>waiting in warm-up
>get matched with the same guy two dozen times in a row and he dodges every time
You'd think matchmaking would take the hint eventually
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It amazes me how Nina is unga and high IQ at the same time
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>Still can't decide between Josie and Alisa
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>>180451196
>console kids
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Why all the hate towards Dragunov?
I've been creamed by him a few times but it felt like it was just because I didn't know the right blockstrings and got punished hard for playing too risky trying to come back
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>>180451196
>>180451231
I don't think this is dodging. I get that the moment I press X. If it was dodging wouldn't they at least check the player card? Or are they just sitting in the lobby mashing on decline?
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>>180451231
Sorry, I don't want to play a laggy person all the way from the mountains of Russia with wifi internet
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>>180451330
Everyone is playing Josie at the moment. She is the Ken of Tekken at the moment, if that matters to you.
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>2-2
>Final round
>Have around 40% health left
>One more hit and I pretty much win
>Tries to throw me
>I break the throw
>Go for a power crush
>RAGE ART LOL TOUGH SHIT FAGGOT
I want to hurt someone. I want to hurt them badly.
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Am i too dumb for Josie?
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>>180451484
This shit is when I hate rage arts, but you are supposed to play safe or go under them or some such
>>180451501
I'm awful at this game and I play Josie you can do it too
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>>180451484
>do something unsafe
>get punished
Really activates those almonds
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Good lord Akumas D4 is fucking annoying
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>>180451481
Kill yourself
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Jesus fucking christ
I got to Grand Master just on mixups and good defense, but now that I'm here I need to be able to juggle to deal woth the fact that everyone else does so much more fucking damage

But I can't. I literally can't. I can juggle all fucking day in lab, consistently between 60-70 damage on every launch possible.

But I can't fucking launch in games. Any time I use ANYTHING but a jab or a long poke I get juggled. I swear to go its like everyone else has a 12 frame mid launcher on NH. It makes me so fucking mad! How the fuck am I supposed to launch niggers. I force whiffs with movement all the time but going in to launch gets me hit by a followup. On the rare occasions I successfully launch I am so surprised that I completely flounder my combo. I've practiced for hours and I still fuck up online.

Why the fuck am I even putting all this time in this game anyway? God fucking damnit
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>nothing but french and italians in match list
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Why can't I set the training dummy to do a rageart or rageart? Makes no sense to grey them out from the movelist select.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Does anyone here play Alisa on ps4 and can teach me how to deal with them? I have trouble with her because I can't tell what the fuck is going on with her moves, I'm not sure which ones to punish

All I know about is her b+3+4, 3+4, everything else is a shitshow, it's hard to tell what she's doing
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>>180452001
put on opponent rage?
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>>180451989
>search for gamings during insane hours of the day
>surprised no one in your region is on
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>>180452017
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>>180452001
>rageart or rageart
You can make them RA or RD using record
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>>180451989
Doesn't mean anything, I am French bust since my display language is English I have an "EN" title
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>>180451989
I'm glad I'm not the only person who has noticed this. Why is it that generally people from countries like France, Italy, Spain etc are complete scrubs? I've played against so many French people as far up as late green ranks who just keep doing the exact same thing over and over again even when they get punished every time for it.
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>tfw cant afford tekken 7
>everyone says wait for steam sale
>steam sale has no sale for tekken 7
i want to cry
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>>180452017
Haha he can't even beat the computer.
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>>180452181
Guess you'll just have to save up.
And enjoy it going on sale a few days after you buy it
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>>180452181
get a job dweeb
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>>180451823
If you can already do all that stuff, then it's just a matter of time before you get better. You just need a bit more experience. Build your self-confidence and you'll be able to launch/whiff punish and follow up with a hard-hitting combo; all just by your instinct!
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>>180452147
They're used to getting away with it because of their fucking third world internet.
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>>180452181
The sale started already? I'm not seeing it.
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>>180452045
I thought of that but it did not do the trick.
>>180452120
Seems like I have to but I don't see why.
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>>180452235
>>180452237
>>180452316
This isn't fair. I want tekken 7
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>>180452181
It is €36.33 (thirty-six euros and thirty-three cents0 on g2a.
If you can't afford this, you should not worry about playing Tekken
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>>180452147
Euros, mainly French and Spanish, are absolute shitters at video games. I'm a Britbong and let me tell you, they don't understand much about games. I played a whole lot of ffxiv and they were known by everyone as the shittiest players on that mmo

I played rainbow six siege ranked, I got to diamond on USA servers. When I tried out EU servers, the platinum players play like bronze USA players, it's like a LAN party at a nursing home

They just can't into video games
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>>180443541
>main lili follow by asuka
I'm no waifufag.
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>>180451823
Time to learn frame data and spacing boyo
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>>180452389
Very scientific data my dude.
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>>180452429
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>>180452389
The few times I've played Euros still isn't nearly as bad as playing any game with Latin Americans. Quite literally worse than fucking Brazilians, I can't think of a worse playerbase.
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>>180452429
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>>180452181
>>steam sale has no sale for tekken 7
That would be really dumb of bamco. 20% would be a clever sale for them to do to keep the momentum.
>>
Who would be easier to pick up as a secondary, Jin or Paul?

I just hit green as Lili and feel like I'm relying on gimmicks when I just want to be good at Tekken.
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how I supposed to go back to enjoying anyone else after picking up Kazuya?
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>>180452630
You don't. Just enjoy playing the true hero of the story.
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>>180452518
Years of losing because of some fucks and then finding out they're French explains alot of it, they're repeat offenders anon. The usual suspects
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>>180452612
Why are you usuimbg the tense as if it hasn't happened yet? Tekken 7 is100% no sale
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>>180452372
Fuck off jew2greed shill
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>>180452615
Paul
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My performance is still fluctuating so much. Sometimes I whiff punish stuff like I'm supposed to and sometimes I just let even whiffed slash kicks just go.
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>>180452025
Cmon waifufags! I know you're in here
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Is it possible to get matched up with Canadians and see them as NA?
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>>180452719
>no source
k kid
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how do I whiff punish with le spanish hobo of frametraps
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>>180452857
Like any other character?
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>play ranked
>it's akuma
>he literally just spams fireballs while running away
>if I get close to him he sweeps and sometimes tatsu
>fucking webm related
Why do people like this exist?
How do people lose to this?
Even a shit player like me can deal with this.
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>>180452893
which moves are good
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>>180452848
Literally go on steam right now
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>>180452901
>jab into RA
this isn't SF bud
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>>180452526
>>180452592
STXT got me fascinated in Tekken. I liked their dynamic so I started off as Asuka then tried Lili. Got gud with Lili and mained her. Soon, Paul and Leo followed after.
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>>180452779
Massive waifufag here, I don't play Alisa.
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>>180450417
Is that Kuma Miko: Tekken Edition?
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>>180452938
The sale hasn't even started yet
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I DON'T KNOW WHO TO PLAY
>Alisa
>Kat
>Josie
>Kazumi
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>>180452389
United-Kingdom, the country where FIFA, PES, COD, GTA, [generic Ubisoft open-world game] top the charts all year long.

Besides, a significant amount of professional competitive gamers are European.
Also, don't forget that in Tekken 7 there is no definite way to pinpoint location.

Anyway, I won't go further because your whole drivel is based on your "experience" on Rainbow Six Siege ( >>180452673 ).
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>>180453020
But it has?
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>>180453091
Of those?
Josie, easily
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>>180452909
Sorry I'm retarded I missed the "with". I thought you were asking how to whiff punish him which didn't make sense.

I guess his twin pistons is alright but don't get it blocked.
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>>180452953
Just admit you're a waifufag already.

>>180453091
Play Kazumi for that sick tiger.
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>>180453091
Lili
>>
FUCK ALISA
RANDOMFUCKING WAIFU NIGGAS MASHING RANDOM SHIT AND UNPUNSIHABLE LAUNCHERS
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>>180453120
No. Have you seen a steam sale before? Once it starts the store page will look completely different.
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>>180453192
This nigga serious?
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>>180453120
Ain't seeing anything.
Even if it is up you need to wait till all the sales get updated on the store.
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>>180453104
t. Assmad Frenchie who can't read properly

I mentioned ffxiv too retard, the list goes on but those games stood out the most.

>using professional gamers as a counter argument
Anon there are Brazilian professional gamers, that still doesn't make up for the 90% of the population who are fucking shit

Now go back to losing games, faggot
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>>180453192
All of her launchers are punishable as fuck, get good.
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>>180453192
Step to the side nigga
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Gonna spend a day picking up the mememan Paul.

What's his 10 frame punish, and what else should I learn aside from Deathfist and Demoman?
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>>180453192
Only thing I hate about fighting Alisa aside from not liking her at all is how long her rage art is active for.

Fuck that noise.
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>>180448849
>couldn't get past 18k

Pathetic
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>>180453316
backup 4 isn't
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>>180453172
>Just admit you're a waifufag already.
No, I'm a shipperfag.
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>>180453336
shit player and shit taste. youre the whole fucking package
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>>180453352
That's not a launcher at all what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>180453458
>he enjoys hearing EEYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH every 3 seconds

Hmmm
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>Namco takes time to give characters 100 plus moves when everyone only needs to use 6-10

Lol. All those useless fucking moves.
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>>180453542
those moves are used to make your opponent tilt when they think they've figured you out
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>>180453542
t. mentor
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>>180453524
everyone in tekken yells and i have no idea what's causing your autism to act up
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>>180446064

oh shit he REALLY means it. I'll go to bed now s-sorry, I'll never text Ann again.
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>>180453316
The up down kick is not punishable because my character has no instant super mega launch 90 damage combo from crouch and that fucking attack feels like it has priority which of course isnt a thing in tekken
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>>180453486
Yes it is.
Backup is the stance you get from db1, pressing back after regular fly or from d3.
>>
How do I Gigass

what are some good combos for a new Gigass player
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>>180453637
They don't yell as often, loud and high-pitched as Alisa, you know it yourself you smelly waifufag
>>
>>180453172
>>180453136
Between Josie or Kazumi who should a beginner play?
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>>180453724
Kazumi is easier, but Josie is more fun
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I want to touch Asuka's butt
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>>180453297
I take it that you didn't understand the last sentence.
The point was drawing attention to your personal experience which has no statistical value. It is meaningless.

You can hide behind logical fallacies, it is your right.

I don't want to derail the thread so I'll "go back to losing games".
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>block sweep
>don't punish
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>>180453779
>launch
>forget your thoroughly practiced combo and just miss with a panic jab
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>>180453317
>sidestepping
>in tekken
I doubt he played 20 years of Tekken games to be able to step attacks in this game.
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>>180453542
>>180453607
>play Alisa
>hold back to block opponent's attack
>suddenly press grab after
>back+grab turns her face into a punching bag
Why the hell would they implement this useless move?
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>>180453669
It's -13~-12 block frame, there's no way your character doesn't have a punish for it.
>>180453683
If it's the big upwards knee you're talking about, that's incredibly easy to punish either way so what he's saying is still wrong.
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>>180453779
>low parry
>drop combo
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>tfw you want to play Eliza but Namco won't let you
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>>180453843
What? It's not like it's hard
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>>180453840
This literally every time I low parry or hit a launcher during neutral.
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>>180453779
>Get counterhit that knocks him down
>Stand there like a retard
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Who wants to play lobbies to prepare for the big tekgen tournament?
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>>180453753
I want to lick it
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>>180453840
more like
>launch
>somehow your thoroughly practiced combo doesn't work this one time
I should really start practicing with delay on
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>>180453758
>didn't understand the last sentence
>mentions my experience was from rainbow six specifically

I'll give you a tip anon, go ask anyone else and they'll say the same thing I did, French and Spanish are shit at games. You'll see its not just my personal experience. Maybe then you'll stop being in denial
>>
>>180453959
PC or PS4?
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>>180453959
Platform/Region?
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>>180453865
I got a punch punch punish for it but nothing else. Nothing that would make alisas stop using that move and sidestepping simple does not work.
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>>180454024
PC since the tournament is on PC

>>180454038
NA!
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>>180432375
Ojisan~
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>>180453959
>the big tekgen tournament
whens that?
>>
>>180454047
What character are you using?
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>>180453865
It's minus 9. It's unpunishable on block.
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>>180454076
>Starting 1st of July until 31st of July

It'll be the first tournament since the last tekken general era (Tekken tag 2 days).
>>
Next time put the tournament into the OP.
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>>180453629
t. never watched pro matches ever
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>>180454186
next time put the gun to your head
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>>180454081
Why not list the awesome combos everyone can do from that giant blockstun?
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>>180454314
Get help you fucking psycho
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>>180454226
t. watched one pro match
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>>180454226
That top 15 moves link is in the OP for a reason
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>>180454328
13f NCs are available to everyone if I can remember. You can easily find them in the resources provided in the OP. A blocked u/f+4, 4, from Alisa is an easy 40 damage for you. Good Luck against future Alisas, anon.
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>>180451481
>>180427315

Still no rank posting means he's bad.
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>>180454434
Yeah, so you can weed out the 85 moves you don't need. :)
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>>180454435
We were talking about the backup launcher and that's not punishable.
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>>180454492
t. goalpost mover
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>>180452901
fucking idiot actually doing the RA input instead of using the shortcut LMAO
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>>180454528
Are you mentally challenged?
You're backing up my point, not arguing against it.
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>>180454571
Don't you have to actually input the raging demon though?
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>>180454518
>>180454518
>>180454518
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>>180454435
Nope no such thing. I get a slap slap or block.
Keep mashing like a robot though.
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>>180454612
>everyone only needs to use 6-10
>top 15 moves
You seem to be the challenged one here.
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>>180454735
You don't need to use 15, though. And even if you did, that still solidifies my point that characters have well over 100 and you don't need to use the majority of them. Think. Comprehend.

But, since you're so good at the game, want to play some matches?
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>>180454732
Welp, sorry for you anon. Sadly you don't want to bother learning how to punish the move, so bye.
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>>180451353

Baby's first character, 50/50s all day, strings with lots of +frames, damage and wall carry for days, comparatively safe launchers, etc etc.

He's basically the perfect online character, and he's top tier offline too.
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