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/eog/ EVE Online General - Best ship edition
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2017-06-21 05:09:41
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>What's EVE Online?
A space-based sci-fi MMORPG known for its steep learning curve, massive scale, and unique depth. It's also known as "Space Spreadsheet Simulator" and "NEET Space Gods".
>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes. Eve is F2P, with some restrictions, and you can earn enough in-game money to get a subscription ("PLEX").
>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using a referral link (chaining them with friends works best). If you have no friends you can easily create two accounts and refer yourself - you'll need an alt anyway:
https://secure.eveonline.com/recruit/
If you buy a subscription on the referred account, then the account used to create the referral link will receive in-game money. Therefore some people will ask you to click their referral links, with the promise of monetary returns. There is no guarantee that you will actually get your share, if you click other people's referral links.
>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and consider finding a corp. Corporations are a great way to connect with people and learn the game properly. The game is only as boring as you are.
For career suggestions, see this graphic:
https://eve-guides.fr/images/wtd.jpg
>Read the /eog/ pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/cqJUuVT9
>Game information
Eve University UniWiki: https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page
>Maps and regions
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/
http://www.ellatha.com/eve/wormholelist.asp
>PvP information
https://zkillboard.com/
https://evewho.com/
>Fitting, structure, and skill planning tools
https://github.com/pyfa-org/Pyfa
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Third-party_tools
>Updates
https://updates.eveonline.com/
>Markets
https://eve-central.com/
https://eve-marketdata.com/
http://evepraisal.com/
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kill yourself
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Buy Now!
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>shilling ur gay site
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Eve is a social experiment.
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/iconic-ships-reimagined-the-minmatar-rupture/
bretty gud
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>rupture
>iconic
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>art and design team
>uses gifs
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>new forums
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>nullsec incursions
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kill yourself highsec
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are t3cs fixed
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>>180378880
No and they are still going be be good.
The sp loss is the only way to get high so players to buy injectors
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>>180376527
Before tieracide the rupture was the best t1 cruiser
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>iconic
this doesn't mean anything
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>le spoopy tiericide meem
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>Playing a dead F2P game
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New Broadsword looks Thicc, too bad the rupture will still look like a manlet next to the Moa or Maller.
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>too bad the rupture will still be shit
ftfy
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>Broadsword
kys
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>greentext
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>provibloc
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>hisec
>losec
>nullsec
>whs
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>vexor
>brutix
>dominix
>Moros
redesign when?
also what is the most iconic eve ship?
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>>180384826
>what is the most iconic eve ship
it's the one you like most
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>>180384826
RNI
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>>180384880
by looks I love the Nyx
sadly Im a newbie and years away from capitals
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>>180384826
the vexor got a new model last week
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>>180384917
CNR*
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>>180385087
Just farm like mad and buy injectors
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Jaguar
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Just came back after a few months away.
Has it changed? PLEX is different (not that I ever bought/used it). Seems buggy now as well, but that might just be me.
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>>180387293
It has been divided into parcels (you need 500 now for 30 days gameplay time). It goes for 1.5 bill total.
Just to give you an idea of the current cancer.
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>>180387487
>It goes for 1.5 bill total.
Im still so fucking mad at this shit
when it was 1-1,1b it was ok but a rise of almost 50% in a short time
fucking SHIT
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>>180387759
now that ghost training is declared an exploit a not insignificant amount of accounts have just entered the market needing to plex and increasing demand
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TIME TO HELP CVA, FUCK GEWNS
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>>180389204
Hello plebbit
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>oneiros xD
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GET FUCKED NC DREADS
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>HTFU
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>dead game
>2k in local trying to save this CVA keepstar
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thanks ccp, fixing the game one redesign at a time
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>>180393718
>Why are they redesigning ships when there are bugs to fix!
Because artists/modelers and programmers are totally the same thing.
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>>180393718
Gtfo of here! loooool
>failmatar
Btw, whats the best t1 minmatar cruiser to roll ECM drones and pwn the foe with the guns?
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>>180393718
Its literally space junk lel
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Omen roam?
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x omen plate rep beam
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Whoa, /dog/ finally has its own ingame item.
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>>180396727
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Is there any way to tell if an infrastructure hub has specific upgrades? I've been looking at the starmap stats on industry index level, hoping to find systems with increased relic/data sites. They seem to mainly occur in pockets and I assume they're heavily guarded. I don't want to make all the effort of getting in if the hub turns out to only have ore upgrades.
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>fit orca and hauler for max tank + implants in .7
>get scanned
>they leave the system
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>be reddit strat FC
>decide to get rid of T3C doctrine
>form maels
>lose all your links before the fight starts
>don't bring any antibomber ships
>don't bring more than 2 dictors
>don't form caps
>feed your whole fleet to T3Cs
>survivors get bombed
>do this 3 times in 1 month
>sell more maelstroms
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>>180399047
Max tank as in structure rigs? Doesn't that greatly diminish your already low yield?
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>>180399959
Is the cva keepstar ded yet?
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>>180401810
yes.
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arbitrator
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>>180393718
This looks really cool but it doesn't stop it from being a garbage ship
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t3c nerf when
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>>180409229
soon
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Is a dual XLASB Moa spicy enough to be a bait ship?
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sure why not
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>>180409589
Sure I guess, you'll probably need a co-processor and some PG rigs too
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>>180409804
Just needed the co-processor for my shitfit. Has scram + web + invuln and costs 11m total
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>>180409898
sounds good, post fit
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>>180409991
[Moa, Bait]
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Co-Processor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Before you say anything about having no prop, I figured the only things I'm gonna catch are those that go for me in the first place. So the idea is to have enough agility between nanos + web to hold something down with scram and web
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>>180410540
I guess you're waiting for a bunch of guys to get on you and your buddies come in and haze them?
I would personally drop the operational solidifiers. Unless you've done the math where you KNOW you can get one or two cycles without charges in the XLASB I would change to more resistances
Also try upgrading the Anti-em rig for a T2, they're only a few million and they give you 35% instead of 30% IIRC. Might be worth it.
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>>180411320
Exactly that yeah. Okay I'll have a look at the numbers through EFT, you're probably right there especially if it buys me some time for friends to arrive. Thanks
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>>180411423
Yea, trying to run XLASB's on empty is virtually impossible and highly detrimental even for a battleship. I be your cruiser could get maybe 1 cycle but even then I don't think they're helping you
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>>180411580
Keep in mind there's only 3-5 of us including me, so if I get jumped by a larger gang I'm just going down anyway
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>>180411698
Yea thats totally fine. I would honestly try to get some weapons on it so at least you can try to haze some shit thats close to you. Light pulses usually work because scorch has good range even if you don't get a damage bonus
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>eve
When alliances go to war for the sake of a palatine keepstar killmail and nothing more
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>[Empty High slot]
>[Empty High slot]
>[Empty High slot]
>[Empty High slot]
>[Empty High slot]
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>>180411698
[Moa, Bait]
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Initiated Compact Warp Scrambler
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Try this
Also make sure you use Navy Cap Booster 400's in the XLASB. It doesn't matter which cap booster you use, they both boost for the SAME amount, using the smaller 400 charge gets you extra charges.
Also make sure you overheat AND pop a blue-pill drug to get extra reps too. The more reps you get per cycle, the more efficient they are and the more likely you can survive a reload if you really needed it.
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>>180412284
Thanks mate I'll give that a go
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>>180384826
>>also what is the most iconic eve ship?
clearly the Catalyst.
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Is it worth it to use the rogue drone accell on SP farms?
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>>180410540
Why don't you fit blasters? I'm too lazy to EFT right now but I used to fly blaster dual xlasb moas in lolsec with genos
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because that would invovle using fitting for something other than tank
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>>180415685
I didn't fit blasters because they have very poor range especially at the edges of scram and web range. Also theres virtually no fitting left and theres just barely enough for focused pulse lasers. Focused pulse lasers can get out to 11km+3 with scorch which allows you to apply dps at your web/scram range. Its not much DPS but it lets you hit anything at those edges and some DPS is better than no DPS. Theres no way I was gonna be able to fit medium blasters to it
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>>180399959
Brave or TEST?
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>>180418937
Test
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>>180418937
Neither.
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DONT!
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>test
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https://zkillboard.com/character/853210666/
How do you get on a killmail with a pod?
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>>180427236
You don't. That means their ship got blowed up before the person the killmail was for did.
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>>180427336
That makes more sense.
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>mfw I'm flying a dictor and get on lots of blue killmails
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>mfw I'm flying a bomber and get on lots of blue killmails
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Is eve reclining?
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I'm about to be able to use Tech II strip miners.
A couple questions about them:
A.) Do I have to have a mining crystal to use them, or do they only boost the yield of specific ores and aren't aren't a requirement?
B.) If I load a plagioclaise crystal can I still mine other types of ore?
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>>180435630
You can use them without crystals or with the wrong type of crystals but if you do then they're actually worse than t1 strip miners.
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>>180435630
modular strip miner do much lower yield than ordinary strip miners when empty or incorrectly fitted, you need to right crystal slotted in to get the bonus.
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>>180435719
>>180435749
Fucking hell that's another day and a half into my queue, which is already 12 days long anyway...
Thanks for the info friends.
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>>180436257
I would stick to T1 crystals, T2s can drill a hole on your profits.
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>3 month long queue for carriers
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>looting pvper wrecks with 0 heat damage mods
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>Your alliance is partners with the russians.
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>dreads vs dreads
>one side manages to lose way more than the other
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Post ur AF fits.
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>>180441306
Dies to a kestrel
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>>180441479
Not if I'm the one kiting.
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>>180384826
The Capsule
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>>180442875
>What is dead may never die
Once the normies leave ccp won't have to cater to them anymore
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armor widow
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Quick what do i kill a rattlesnake running C3s with? Its in a magnetar hole and i know for a fact he has no corpmates online but neither do i.
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>Plex at 1,55b
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeee
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>>180445480
Battleship with neuts and damage.
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If you leave corp during wardec, are you still attackable for some time?
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>>180445480
bhaalgorn
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>>180446746
Yeah. 24 hours. So you can't drop corp just before PIRAT/Marmite attack you and get them concorded.
Also fuck PIRAT/Marmite/wardeccers, they're a bunch of FUCKING COWARDS hiding in highsec and docking up the second more than two reds show up in local.
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>>180434606
You're missing out if you don't while you spin your ship
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>>180447424
Show me on the Faction BS where the elite highsec pvpers touched you.
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>>180394002
>game balance
>either
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>>180448238
Balance is a meme. I don't think they've ever been interested in it
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>rifter beats garmur at scram range!
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>le scram range meem fights
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>>180449124
The game is balanced until a bunch of T3Ds start flying.
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>>180449269
>The game is balanced
>>A carrier can oneshot a cruiser
>>>game is balanced
The game is not balanced.
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>>180448116
Elite PvP in highsec: wardeccing newbie industrial corps
Elite PvP in nullsec: blapping MTUs and excavator drones
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>>180450505
Dont forget about killing afk vnis.
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What's fun, as in worth doing for reasons other than watching numbers go up? Please be as specific as you can
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>>180449269
T3Ds are not a big deal, why are you still complaining about them
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>>180451531
Proving yourself better than other players.
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>fun
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>>180451960
That's why I provided a working definition
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killing bads is fun
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>>180449983
What kind of shitfit cruiser are you flying?
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>one year queue for carriers
feels bad man
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Kestrel or Condor for solo pvp?
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kestrel, do you have a fit or do you want me to post some?
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>>180455185
post'em
also is ECM + scram viable on any t1 solo?
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>ECM
go find your own fits you fucking garbage eating retard
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>>180449983
>A carrier can oneshot a cruiser
>Proofs = []
>>180451625
Because they're outclassing ~everything below them, including AFs. The early game being fun is great on sub retention.
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>t1 frigates for solo
What's up with this meme?
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>>180455827
no they don't, and stop going on about AFs as though they matter, it makes you sound retarded
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>ECM
>solo
no, except on griffin navy issue
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>>180456641
>no they don't
How compelling..
/s
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>>180457118
epic
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>>180455370
Hookbill if you sit in a plex with a depot and refit to jam whatever you fight.
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What's the maximum possible DPS?
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double the dps
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>>180394002
>money pays for both jobs
>less artists, more programmers please
oh wait its 2017 and you're all fucking useless hipsters with iTablets who can only draw pretty pictures
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>>180463810
>hurr
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oneiros
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>not navitas
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>pods that sit on the gate outside of dead-end systems
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>still no scorch nerf
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>>180472969
Beam's are better anyway
>enemy is at scorch range
>you can see which bad's in your fleet don't have t2 guns
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>public research citadel runs out of fuel
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The Exoplanets thingy is on SISI now. The tutorial is broken though so I have no idea how it works.
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>>180475265
Asset protection, it doesn't matter.
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>sisi pulling 1,1Gb update
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>>180476550
Shit's not loading.
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>>180480291
did you click skip tutorial?
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The new rupture model is also on sisi. Also the T3 changes and skins.
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>>180470385
rly makes u think desu
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oneiros
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>>180474714
Remember beams take up significantly more fitting, cap cost and have way worse tracking.
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>>180454904
>capital repair systems V
why? you don't need it.
>neurotoxin control and recovery
you don't need these.
>minmatar carrier V
why? You're not even doing JDC5
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>>180485118
>flying capitals with garbage skills
epic
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>>180485350
>garbage skills
you aren't even putting fighters or light fighters to 5
you're a fucking retard
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>>180485421
>xhe can't even read
lol
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>>180485637
>cant even read "light fighters IV
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Looks ok. You get boxes with skins and shit sometimes as a reward. Wish they'd tune the "hurr u were one pixel wrong" shit.
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>>180485780
fighters 5 is on there and light fighters 4 is enough for t2
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>>180487032
t2 fighters aren't worth it, they're REALLY fucking expensive because CCP won't fix T2 fighter BPC's to produce more than 1 fighter at a time and they don't do much damage or have much more tank over T1
15 million fighters vs 3m isk fighters
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>>180487392
stop complaining like there's a balance issue here
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>>180487771
>no guys, quintupple the price for an extra 5% damage and tank is fine
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>>180488107
>literally every t2 ever
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>>180488107
>it has to be better in every way but with no appreciable increase in price
why can't you accept that t1 is the best for you, without it being some kind of problem
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>>180487771
There is a balance issue. Since the fighter changes you require so many more fighters but fighter production is as stagnant before with the same build times. This is especially apparent on the T2 fighter market because you simply cannot produce enough reasonably. You need 9 times the fighters just to make one squad but the production mechanic only allows you to produce one every hour. Its fucking retarded.
>>180488241
except they aren't. The benefits don't justify the costs. 5% extra tank and damage for quintuple the cost. at 3m a fighter it takes 27-30m to fill a squad, a t2 squad costs 135 million, times 3 you've got a set of squads is over 400 million for something that gets you little in return. Other T2 variants of weapons, mods and ships have explicit and powerful extra bonuses including things like T2 damage, range, tracking, tank especially with T2 resist profiles that actually warrant their costs aside from a few exceptions.
The production model doesn't adequately meet the means of use and fragility.
>>180488485
you're fucking retarded. Enjoy your expensive ass fighters getting alpha'd away and the ship you tried to kill you lost more than you killed
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>The benefits don't justify the costs
this depends how much money you have and how much you lose fighters. it might not justify the added cost for you, but you can't say it doesn't for everyone
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>>180489273
>this depends how much money you have and how much you lose fighters
With bombers its even worse, a single bomber can cost up to 40 million and they're just as fragile as fighters. Whats more hilarious is how much money you can lose just by trying to use them. Oh man I killed their entire fleet but lost 1.5 billion in fighters and bombers.
The only ships to use T2 fighters and bombers are super pilots
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>The only ships to use T2 fighters and bombers are super pilots
what's wrong with that
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>>180489579
Whats wrong with that means that they don't have any monetary practicality on any lesser level than supers. No one uses T1 bombers because ALL super pilots train for the T2 and try to get every last little percent. Opposite is true with regular carriers, they don't use T2 fighters because its simply not economically worth it. You'll never see a combat carrier with T2 fighters and you'll never see a super of any kind with T1 bombers
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>combat carrier
why do people say this? what's a non-combat carrier?
and it sounds like ccp have just succeeded at diminishing returns for once and you're all confused because t2 doesn't make t1 redundant
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>>180490038
>what's a non-combat carrier?
a ratting carrier
>succeeded at diminishing returns
thats not what CCP set out to do ever, I don't know where you get this stupid shit. T1 stuff isn't redundant. People still use things like T1 1600 plates because they can't fit the T2 variant. Its the same reason why CCP made tiericide a thing for many modules. Sure T2 is often the preferred but other modules warrant their uses. T1 damage mods and damage controls are often coveted for their savings in fitting. This differentiation between T1 and T2 fighters doesn't translate however
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>>180489579
Its been a huge industry complaint since day one
>oh yea its totally amazing you can make 1 single fighter an hour, oh yea you can make 9 in 9 hours and that fills one squad.
Thanks CCP Took me all day to make that shit.
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>>180490556
Oh I'm sorry I fucked up
Its 2 hours at TE20, minus any other bonuses you get from a citadel or industrial complex. But its no where near 1 hour, its more like 1 and a half hours to make just ONE single einherji or templar or anything.
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>delve fags pretending things cost too much minerals
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>fell for the carrier ratting meme
>now want to kill myself trying to grind for a rorqual
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>>180492934
how much do rorqs make nowadays an hour?
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>>180493192
Around 150-100mil and hour.
It's worse than carrier ratting but extremely less effort.
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>still no panic nerf
>still no rorq tank nerf
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>>180492934
at least now you have a big suitcase to haul your shit around
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I miss battle rorqs
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I miss pre rorq buff eve
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>major wars that get media attention attract new players
>there hasn't been a major war in ages
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I miss pre-cap eve
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>media attention
>relevant
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>>180499028
Blame CCP who made a system that discourages these sorts of fights
>>
yeah capitals discourage fights
>>
Steam sale going on...
Anyone want to buy me games for evebux?
1.3bil per 10$
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>>180503349
Welp, I tried.
10$ for a plex is a really good offer, fuck you NERDS!
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how is this game still around
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>>180503349
>>180504496
>>
Which ship would Will Smith fly?
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dedgayme ship
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I havent played since citadels were first introduced should I get back into eve?
>>
up to you idk
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>>180509374
isexit bagstill a thing
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>>180509314
I don't know, should you?
>>
>>
>>180509545
neat
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>exit bag
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>ccp removed the best looking T3C parts
FOR FUCK'S SAKE IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR A PROTEUS THAT LOOKS LIKE A FISH OR A LEGION WITH A BIRD'S HEAD STAPLED TO IT
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>>180509703
>not wanting to goAll Out
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>removing t3 parts
Oh boy I'm coming back to a shitshow aren't I
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>>180509893
>ccp very slightly nerfs some of the most overpowered ships in the game by a tiny amount
>everyone goes apeshit
we've seen this many times
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>>180510030
>20% nerf is a tiny amount
Why dont they nerf the application?
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>>180513154
we're talking about t3s, it sounds like you're talking about fighters
>>
>Warp ahead in dictor because FC told me to
>Get caught in a bubble and die
>missed the giant cap brawl
Fuck this game
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>not D-scanning for bubbles
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>amarr
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>warp farther than 14.3AU
>"why didn't you d-scan for bubbles, anon?
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>>180518449
>not bouncing off celestials or having a scout
>>
Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Controlled Bursts
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>dictor wont warp because hes scared of dieing
>all the hostile caps jump out and the whole fleet has to burn home
For real though run the dictor on an alt and keep your main with the fleet
>>
Zainou 'Gnome' Weapon Upgrades
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>Caldari
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>Gaylente
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>spent 2 hours working on a spreadsheet in excel
>the crack didnt work correctly and it says there's only 1 day left to register
>>
Has there been any word yet on whether the upcoming refineries will get bonuses to refining like ECs get to manufacturing or will they just be for the new moon mining stuff?
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>skill injector prices finally heading down
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>daylong gatecampers
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/63091359/
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>>180418937
Brave
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>>180529876
cut the new player some slack, I'm sure he's learned his lesson about auto-piloting
>>
>>180499028
>major wars that get media attention attract new players that will never play
ftfy
>>
oneiros
>>
twoiros
>>
rediros
>>
blueiros
>>
>>180514035
>listening to the FC
>>
>tfw new coat from pDiscovery
Aww shit
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>>180529720
>losing ships to gatecamps
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>>180493859
Why do you want a rorq nerf on it ? You're sad that your sabre can't kill it ?
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>>180486747
hello fellow goon :)
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>>180537764
o7777777 :^xD
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>tfw eve finally died
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>>180541459
>0 players online
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Should i resub?
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>>180542242
>panicking over downtime
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>>180544963
BUT IT'S A MEME
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IVJVTUNl0I
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>Next login booster available in {timeRemaining}
>Login booster is available once per day while the season is active
What did CCP mean by this? Are they going to start rewarding players for logging in?
>>
initiated compact warp scrambler
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>>180545339
It's part of a new event on sisi. You get a temporary booster applied to you when you login.
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>>180549149
wheres that screenshot from?
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>>180549825
the test server
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>>180549149
>forcing t3 shit on people
>>
>comfy slow buy order at 33k ppc
>fag comes in and raises by 6k
>>
>>180549149
Time for your dailies. Another masterful plan by ccp
>>
noneiros
>>
>>180550901
just be patient.
>>
ded
>>
whats the story behind markeedragon, he seems bad enough that there must be one
>>
>>180556069
literally who?
>>
>>180556069
No real one story. Just a professional streamer/vidya business runner.
However, it was remarkable when
>Oruze Cruise shat on him on stream (he played like shit)
>SWAT raided his home because someone reported him as a joke (not graphic enough for me to dig it up, but still a funny thought)
>>
What the fuck did they actually change about the sin model
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no one was going to evict hawks/hk/inner hell before they got keepstars so w-space keepstars doesn't really change anything
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>>180557046
It has spinny things on top.
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>>180558878
Exactly. Hk and laser hawks were never in any danger ever of bring evicted
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>toon
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>>180558878
this is because wormhole mechanics give the defenders a crazy advantage, so it'll never happen. they'll only fall to internal troubles
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/63093692/
What did he mean by this
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>>180562037
It's an elite renter fit. You wouldn't understand.
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>>180562037
>>
>torpedoes
>No rigs
>7 shield extenders
Can you be any worse at this game?
>>
oneiros
>>
>>180565273
>assuming renters have any skill at all
There's a reason that HK, Therabois and so many blops groups go hunting out there.
>>
Maller best baller.
>>
Is there a t1 battleship that doesnt use drone that can just sit anywhere in a l4 mission standing still and shoot all the rats without dying?
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>>180570729
It depends, which faction are you fighting against? Guristas can usually hit anywhere on grid with cruise missiles, angels and serpentis use arty and rails that can reach pretty far.
>>
>>180571512
Amarr uses lasers which means they dont consume ammo. Wouldnt the apocalypse be good? Even if you dont hit directly their resistance hole?
>>
>don't consume ammo
>"the capacitor is empty"
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>>180529876
holy fuck, but ya he had to of learned his lesson on that one
>>
>>180570729
Raven, Raven Navy, Scorpion Navy, Apoc navy, Apoc (probably)
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>>180571939
If you can stick to Standard crystal ammo sure.
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>>180562037
>>
>tfw not cap stable even with standard on pulses
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>>180572929
>being cap stable
nigga pls
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>>180572465
Thx. Have an apoc with holes in it and lots of gold shiny for your troubles:
>http://www.caldariprimeponyclub.com/?dna=ab1_t1:ishukone:amarr&kills=0&age=0&turret=res:/dx9/model/turret/launcher/torpedo/torpedo_t2.red&nebula=res:/dx9/scene/universe/c04_cube.red&sun=res:/fisfx/lensflare/blue.red&
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just turn off half your guns then you're cap stable
>>
just get civilian guns then your cap stable
>>
just turn off target painter then you're cap stable.
>>
just sit in capsule then you're cap stable
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just never undock and you're cap stable
>>
this sub is epic
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reminder that every time you drag a hunter to intel channel you're bullying pvpers out of the game and killing your own content
>>
>pulse plebs
>>
>try to fit beams
>you have to replace your 3 heat sinks with 2 RCUs and a co-processor
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>/eog/ EVE Online General
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>Amarr
>>
>Be CCP
>Spend the revenue from your only product on other projects
>Fuck up every time
EVE players are such cucks
>>
you're the cuck
>>
>>180583713
>businesses shouldn't diversify
You're super smart, anon.
>>
>>180583713
EVE is going to continue to taper off, they need a new income source for the future.
>>
>>180577754
>not just buying a new ship for each fit
>>
>>180572929
cap stable means you're not using enough capacitor.
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>'join a nullsec corp, anon! you'll never make any Isk in highsec!'
>find a corp
>buy a VNI for 130m
>warp to rock haven
>'ANOON ROCK HAVENS ARE FOR CARRIERS ONLY'
>all forsaken hubs are taken
>forlorn anything is too hard for my VNI
>get some 12m ticks in forsaken rally points
>new guy enters system
>he anchors an ESS in the middle of nothing
>10 minutes later he loggs off
>keep ratting
>suddenly 4 wormhole griefers in my system
>they're at the ESS
>dock up
>they steal 300m Isk and blow up all MTUs in system
>gf in local
>>
>>180586903
>live in highsec
>make at least 100m a day just by spending 30 minutes updating my manufacturing jobs and buy/sell orders
>always have more than enough isk to plex and buy whatever ships I want for low/null/WH roams
>never have to worry about any of the shit that comes with living in null
Feels comfy, man.
>>
>>180586903
>live in FW space
>fly 8m frigate
>do complexes
>easy 50m and pvp you can afford
>>
>don't buy a 20m saar for your t1 frigate
>get raped
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>>180588337
>not fitting MASB instead
>>
>>180586903
>Join Horde
>Get a VNI
>Warp to rock haven
>No one gives a shit
>>
>CCP supposedly increases drop rate of SAAR BRCs
>Price quadruples
>>
>>180589063
I swear they haven't buffed shit. I've been exploring for months and haven't seen a single SAAR BPC
>>
>Faction supers
>>
>>180589063
they only drop from a very small number of sites for some retarded reason. they need to increase the drop rate and increase the number of sites they drop from. I think all lowsec and nullsec data sites for example just don't drop them
>>
ded like this game
>>
Not sure if I like the new T3C changes. I knew they were gonna get nerfed but some of these preliminary stats are just hot trash.
Theres one system that gives a legion +300 armor which is pretty fucking shit. Theres always this one subsystem that gives +50 capacitor which is another retarded idea. All the ships can get 6 launchers or guns but often times you're so PG or CPU fucked you can't do anything else significantly.
Legion has serious CPU issues, its extremely difficult to fit resist mods after adding all the guns
>>
but resist mods use 0 cpu
>>
>>
yes they do it says right here
>>
>>180594092
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
36 cpu
>>
So with the new T3C changes what is my best bet for solo hunting wormhole ratters? Most likely C3 site runners.
>>
a T3C
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>finally get my carrier after 3 months of VNI ratting
>jump to beacon
>there's a rorq tackled ON THE FUCKING BEACON by some tengus and 30 bombers
>they kill my carrier
>response fleet saves the rorq
>>
>>180597554
There is solution to this problem:
1) Stop being nullpleb
2) Move to ls and get rich
>>
>>180597687
how do you get rich in lowsec? isn't that the worst space?
>>
>>180598000
you kill the 300m blinged vigil fleet issues and make bank
>>
>>180597554
>be dumb
>dont bring my own cyno
>get killed
And nobody was surprised.
>>
>>180598000
Well you can go to Factional Warfare for example and do missions or complexes. Also you can do L5s with carriers, those are great. Also null is worst space. They just have lots of propaganda and people think they are important part of imperium or whatever while they are noone. Unless you have 5 rorquals null is not worth it imo
>>
>>180598347
>ask if krab system is clear in intel
>no answer
>jump to beacon
>die
>oh sorry anon, we were talking about that fleet in our corp comms which aren't even on alliance voice
>we don't use intel you see, it's hard to mine and write at the same time
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>>180598707
>no answer
>jump to beacon
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>>180599342
there's always 50 people in there and there was nothing in intel
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>>180599865
sounds like your guys are shit at reporting intel
>>
>tfw logged out in a wormhole without a scanner
>a year ago
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Is there any specific skill you should be training when setting up skill for an SP farm?
>>
>>180602558
My guess would be PI skills so you can further supplement their income.
>>
amarr cruiser 5
>>
alright guys >>180602384 here I renewed my Eve memebership and I checked my main toon and I got booted for inactivity from my old corp and I'm sure they got evicted or something anyways what do I dont want to self destruct im very lonely
>>
>>180603008
What system?
>>
Why are dog posters so bad?
Iv never lost a pve ship in null and never done an anom less below a haven
>>
>>180603420opsec
>>
>>180602558
Cybernetis VI
Analytical Mind V
Instant Recall V
Que Intelligence and Memory skills.
>>
>>180603457
Because they're stupid nullbears who can't PVP to save their lives. Seriously, who buys a ship they can't replace several times over?
Also, who the fuck joins a corp that limits where you can rat?
>>
>>180603420
oh wait I ended up in amarr
huh I really did think I logged off in a wormhole
>>
>>180602558
cyno 4 and ceptor
r&d skills
pi skills
>>
>>180597554
>>180586903
Your tears are delicious, nullbabies.
>>
what is a dog poster
>>
Moros buff when?
>>
I have amarr cruiser 5 what skill should I train next
>>
>>180605369
Logi 5
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>>180605825
its already to 4, fc
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>Advanced Spaceship Command V
>>
>tfw brave
>tfw no ratting restrictions
>tfw ratting with reds/neuts in system
>tfw dual carrier ratting
When are you goon/pl gonna hot drop me?
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>be AUTZ player
>never have to actually conquer or defend space because EUTZ and USTZ does all the heavy lifting
>get FREE space handed to you by the other timezones
>can actually AFK krab
>get pristine ore anoms and your choice of the best truesec systems in all of EVE
>all the time in the world for actual fun PVP
>when there's an AUTZ strat op you form like 10 guys even tho there's usually 300 of you people online
>doesn't matter tho because EUTZ and USTZ will just alarm clock to do the boring stuff
Why are AUTZ players such niggers?
>>
>>180605932
If you want a serious answer train large projectiles and minmatar bs to 4
>>
>>180606264
>awoo V
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>>180606290
>projectiles
>nigmatar tech
ahahahahaha
>>
>>180606289
Are you in goons?
>>
can alpha pilots with over 5m sp use extractors?
>>
I have 4 geckoes should I use them for solo dunkin in an astero or sell them for iskels
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>>180607181
stratios*
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>stratios
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>>180607181
Is 4 geckoes a lot of isk to you? If yes then I'd sell them. If not then use them.
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>>180606289
Lol you must be goons, your invasions go held up for months by autz defense and your autz players got called arsehole squad, ripped out by mittani and told not to fight after losing with 2:1 numbers advantage to many times.
>>
Whats the name of that tool that lets you see how well specced out your toon is?
>>
>>180602558
Yes it can matter very much. Remap to perception/willpower and train another race's ship (caldari battleship V if account is gallente etc), if the farm account ever lapses to alpha train up your own race's ship and also the gunnery skills. You can extract those alpha skills when you go omega, you end up making more isk the more time spent as alpha, and you're much more guarded against sudden spiking plex prices since your operation doesn't go into dissaray if it falls out of omega and can wait out the market. Managing the alpha skill queues is easy unless your farm includes hundreds of accounts
>>
>>180607753
>australians suck at yet another videogame
I'm not surprised.
>>
What's the official /vg/ guild brehs
>>
Is it worth getting back into? I played back during the days of the great goonswarm and bob dramafests.
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>>180612446
not at all
>>
Bellicose
>>
What's the next Tech 3?
Frig, BC, BS or some kind of capital
>>
>>180616647
>just got pirate titans
>release t3 titans for maximum fuck you
>>
T3 rookie ships.
>>
Did they make PI less of a fucking ball ache to set up, i've tried to set it up like 4 times but can never be bothered after the first 1
>>
>>180618858
It's still the same it has always been. I recently moved my operation and it only took about 40 minutes to set up all 5 of my planets.
>>
ded
>>
>>180612446
absolutely
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>>180622017
t. ccp
>>
>Minmatar
>>
>>180597554
>>jump to beacon without a scout
gitgud
>>
>>180597554
ayyy lmao
is that you https://zkillboard.com/kill/63116963/ ?
>>
>Legion of xXDeathXx
>>
Can somebody tell me which minmatar bs is best for lvl4 missions?
>>
>>180597554
>>180626621
What is with this general and fucking retards from the DRF?
>>
>>180627860
Mach
>>
>>180612201
All Out
>>
Is All Out actually dead or is it just a meme?
>>
>>180631694
It's a meme, they are alive and well.
>>
All-out is the most cutthroat organization in New Eden, committing extortion, racketeering and blackmail, you name it; You'd best be shivering if you ever get on their bad side.
>>
So I'm not trying to argue balance here, but I want to say that it's incredibly dumb that a hic can't scram out to it's bubble range anymore.
>>
>>180632304
blame whfags, they cried on the CSM that HIC points made it too hard to run back to their holes
>>
what is the picrelated of the eve universe?
also any chance that eve will some interesting/new content in the next 1-2 years?
>>
>>180634153
Ewar dreads before they removed their ewar immunity
>>
>>180631694
It was but it has been resurrected. It's a good place to be if you're new to wormholes.
>>
>DT doesn't last a full hour anymore
What is this sorcery
>>
>>180627860
maelstrom
>>
>using t1
>>
anyone here fly the muninn? how good is it?
>>
>muninn
>good
The rupture is better
>>
oneiros
>>
>rupture
>good
hurricane
>>
Can someone give me a quick rundown on John Duune?
>>
>>180641563
He didn't join the w-space blue circlejerk and tried to fight instead so they bullied him and made him a meme
>>
oneiros
>>
eris
>>
there is no w-space blue circlejerk you dumb faggot
he fell for there is a w-space blue circlejerk meme and wouldn't stop spouting off about it at every opportunity so he's a laughing stock
>>
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>oy vey the goyim are onto us. Quickly, go on anonymous imageboards and deny the truth as hard as possible
>>
Can I use an extractor on an Alpha account?
>>
>there is no w-space blue circlejerk
t. HK/Lazerhawks pet
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>>180645817
yes, but you can only extract omega skills
>>
>>180645817
You can extract non-alpha skills on an alpha character.
>>
>>180646402
>>180646323
how much sp fits in one extractor and how much profit per extractor?
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>>180646529
500k and it varies depending on current extractor/injector/plex prices
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r8
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>800mm
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>>180648176
Perfect.
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>Remote Tracking Computer
>>
How do you defend against cloaking Asteros? I've lost 2 Cheetahs in 24 hours to these bastards.
As I see it, the cloaked Astero would fit a warp scrambler, web and drones. So getting out of range, once they've locked target, seems impossible. Combating drones seems equally unlikely in a frigate; smartbombs either wont fit and the ones that do don't seem powerful enough.
So that 5 second targeting delay window is the only real opportunity to escape. How about increasing the time it takes to lock? Those sensor booster modules with ECCM script that explorers use to make it harder for combat scanners to find them; would they work to make it harder to lock you, too? Its either that or ECM.
>>
just warp away nigga
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>>180649250
Stop using cheetahs. Use expendable ships with warp core stabs
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>cloaky hunter T3Cs nerfed
Good riddance.
>>
are they fixing long range brick anchor blobs? I'm too lazy to look through all the changes
>>
I want to fuck Maelstrom chan!
>>
my favorite change is the nerf to resistances.
>>
>>180651131
do you really think it'll stop logi from being fucking cancer? it's a step in the right direction but it's a tiny fraction of what needs to be done
>>
Give logi stacking penalty
>>
that's silly, just reduce rep amount and range by 50%
>>
>>180651372
And get even more ammount of logi in blobs? No thanks.
>>
>>180651203
I think part of the problem is FCs not knowing what to do at the sight of so many logis. If you can't deal with them then imo adopt a stalling doctrine of armor ships with Tidis to stop enemy dps until people figure out what to do.
>>
>if we make logi less effective people will just use it more
>ah yes, surely the solution to the logi cancer problem is to buff logi
>>180651882
more like the problem is it's so braindead and not situational. yes, you know what damps are, we all do. it still requires a lot of damps per logi, and they can weaken your damps by using braindead non-situational sebos/rsebos. it needs a more specific and effective counter like tracking disruptors vs turrets
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>stacking penalty means buff
Stop being retarded
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>>180651372
They already did, by introducing falloff reps have become extremely less effective at range
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>>180648176
>800 plate
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>>180653889
does literally nothing to anchored up sensor boosted fag blobs, and they still have too much range
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>finally get into a Rorq after months of slaving away to buy injectors
>corp institutes mandatory WH rolling fee of 50m per day you're mining
>wh rolling fags make the same Isk/h as I do in a Mega
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>>180654123
Yea it did, you can have logi sitting at 60km or you can have them sit at 29km now. It made a huge difference and now with command destroyers they're extremely easy to remove
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>>180654341
yeah command destroyers are retarded too desu
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>logi are a problem
>heres an easy solution
>those are also a problem
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>pls stop threatening me with solutions
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>>180649250
the astero has a 5 second delay before he can target you if he decloaks next to you. Just overheat mwd, burn in a random direction and cloak. it's literally impossible to die unless you have potato reactions
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>this overpowered thing is fine because of this other overpowered thing
>ccp pls don't fix this overpowered thing we need it to counter the other overpowered thing
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>>180655035
You're fucking retarded, theres a solution to virtually every facet of a fleet
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Nobody said that
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>everything is OP
then nothing is OP
what the fuck is even OP about CD's?
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command destroyers scale in a cancerous way to the point that you cannot prevent things from being jumped
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>>180655263
Oh man what a loaded, baseless statement
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>what is a scram
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>>180655263
>point that you cannot prevent things from being jumped
scram them
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>ok guys just scram all 10 of these ships before they can jump (so 5 seconds)
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>all 10
make a scram chain
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>10
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>ecm burst
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>imaginary ecm burst CDs
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>nobody fits ecm burst I said so
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>>180655714
find me a zkill fit of a CD with a ECM Jammer
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>inb4 dronestealer KM
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>>180655263
if they bring lots of cds bring scrams on your logis mids instead of peccm or sensor comps or whatever and do a scram chain
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>I can coordinate 20 scrams on 20 CDs in 5 seconds
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Have you hysterical faggots ever been in an actual fleet fight?
No the game won't be balanced around your micro gang so get over it
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>pls don't threaten our blobs
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> sin
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>guys I'm a line member I know what I'm talking about
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>ignore all pings
>make 6b in 2 days of VNI ratting
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>>180660410
pings ?
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>leave nullsec
>go back to hisec to sit on market and do industry
>flying in my comfy mastodon hauling materials
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>>180660641
when you join a nullblob they make you install some third party program like jabber, irc or discord so that they can bully you into joining fleets when you're not even playing EVE
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>willingly open jabber
>wow they are fucking forcing me
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>It's a <pirate faction ship> fleet with T2 logi episode
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>don't have jabber open
>ANON WHY DON'T YOU INTEGRATE
>YOU GOT FLAGGED FOR LOW FLEET PARTICIPATION IN OUR ORWELLIAN SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM
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>he joined a corp with a VAGUE fleet requirements and now he suffers
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>>180663305
Yeah, maybe I should join Goons instead. Sometimes I just want to krab for a week but my current alliance gets upset when you don't join all the ''''fun''' roams because you're busy grinding Isk to inject a new alt.
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>>180663683
>JOIN OUR ROAM ANOM, IT'S GONNA BE ULTRA FUN
4h later, only one kill, a fucking poor and unlucky afk ceptor on gate
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and what contribution do you asperger nocomms anime shitters make
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>contribution
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What's with Goons and flying fleets that are unfun to fight?
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>what is every nullbloc ever
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fun means winning, unfun to fight means effective
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>>180665956
Effective = fun, fleshbag
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>fun means winning
no
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Shitty meme fleets are more fun to be on and more fun to fight against than interceptor/boosher fleets.
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>Shitty meme fleet
what comp is this
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>ok guise everybody press f1 on your rlml caracals and blob this 5man literally who random roam haha so fUN XDd
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>REEEEE i need '''content'''' every day
>i can't just go roam or do shit with my group of friends, it has to be on alliance level
>why can't we deploy to the other end of the galaxy
>if you don't want to spend 6 hours chasing t1 cruisers every day you're the cancer that is killing this alliance
>we should kick all this deadweight that only krabs, it doesn't matter that they bring a subcap char and 3 caps on every strat op that actually matters
>they didn't come on my RR Vexor meme roam last night, we should just awox them XD
>can i get a safari pass FC
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>RR Vexor
kys
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>alliance e-celeb is behaving like a faggot bitch
>you can't do shit because xhe is >>>>famous
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>horde fleet flies 50 jumps for gudfite
>stay docked until they get bored and leave
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>line members are still allowed to post on /eog/
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join All-Out
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Never forget the hard work of the miners that provided the materials for your ship.
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but my minerals are free
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>sell my Erebus so I don't have to move it through Aridia
>pay cap builders in my new alliance for a new one
>get kicked for being a spy before build is complete
>no refunds
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>>180678535
Why did they think you were a spai?
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>being scared of russians
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>>180678839
mostly because grrr goons
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>>180679285
So if I leave goons no one will want me because i might be a spai?
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>>180679409
and there's a very high chance that you're a faggot
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>>180680621
>there's a very high chance that you're a faggot
traps aren't guys so i'm safe
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>>180680621
goons are stereotyped to be assholes or douches, a fact that's reinforced by a lot of its line members
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The only good goon is a dead goon.
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If you had stayed in goon none of this would of happen desu
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>>180681127
>goons threaten my hugbox
sounds like the other alliances are made of spineless faggots
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Newfag here.
If I like spreadsheets and space, is the game worth giving a try even if I went F2P at first? Or will this be holding me back immensely?
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>>180685227
You can get a taste of pretty much any playstyle in the game as an alpha but, of course, it won't be as efficient. For example alphas can't train all of the tax-reducing skills that omegas can, so if you were to try your hand at trading you could still do it, but you would pay a percent or two more than an omega would pay in taxes.
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>>180685403
I'm barely aware of what the game is even, trading sounds like something that'd be fun for me tho.
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>>180685576
The galaxy the game takes place in is divided into sections called regions, and each region has its own market where you can trade items through sell orders (you pay a fee to put an item up for a certain price and someone can come along and buy it for that price without actually interacting with you) and buy orders (you pay a fee to set up an order that says I want to buy x item at this price and someone can come along and sell it to you). There are many different ways of trading in Eve such as regional trading (buying items in x region, moving it to y region and selling it for a profit) or station trading where you stay in one specific station, typically a trade hub, and buy items for lower prices, typically through buy orders, and resell them for a profit through sell orders.
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>>180685950
I got nothing to lose, will give it a try, thanks anon.
How long do you recon would one need to play for """the real game""" to start, where I can actually do stuff and have some fun? Or it it pretty open from the start?
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>>180686098
A while back they greatly increased the skills you start with (from about 50k skill points worth to about 500k skill points worth and if you make your account with a referral link you start with an additional 250k you can put whereever you want) so you can dip your toes in just about any playstyle right out of the gate, but to be decently efficient at any of them expect to spend at least a month training up your skills.
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>>180686098
People has different opinions about what's fun. Some people has fun from the get go, others only have fun once they're sitting in carriers (1 year of training or fuckton of money)
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>>180649250
>ECCM for exploration
Nobody does that. They will just search you with the directional and scan the anomaly directly.
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>>180587759
Manufacturing vs PI for passive income? Which is best? (assuming PI on purely import/export model).
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>I fly ECM
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>>180657892
Yes actually you can
SC, Waffles, PL, Everyone with a huge machariel fleet coordinates scram chains. Its 100% possible and very very effective
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>>180686397
As long as I can reliably make dough while going from place to place and trading, I'll be happy :°)
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>>180686956
>ecm burst doesn't exist
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>>180686990
After you finish the tutorial do the career agents. They'll introduce you to various facets of the game the tutorial doesn't cover and give you various ships, modules, and skill books and a decent amount of starter cash. The business career agent will introduce you to various aspects of trading such as hauling as well.
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ares
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>>180687097
Go try it yourself, your could stream it to show us but I think you would be dead and podded before the MJD activates
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>>180690004
more command destroyers means more scram chain broken and less defense scrams happening. there's no sensibly scaling way to defend against it, as you add more command destroyers it becomes more uncounterable
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Slasher
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>tfw traveling +30 jumps below 5au/s
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Goons have 6 machariels in MJXW-P rignt now, what should I do?
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>>180692449
They docked up. No fun.
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>>180690152
>more command destroyers means more scram chain broken
not really. One scram chain disables all tries on MJDing
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>>180690152
>no sensibly scaling way to defend against it
what is a SCRAM
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>>180692647
>>180692707
what is ecm burst
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>>180692745
Find me a CD that ever used an ECM burst because in dozens and dozens of mach fleets I've NEVER been ECM bursted
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>anon decides how balanced something is by seeing if there are lossmails or not
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>>180693006
CD's can't use ECM Burst, those go on supers
You mean a Burst Jammer?
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>>180693797
It is balanced, you can't name a single instance of this ever being a thing let alone working.
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>anon decides how balanced something is by seeing if it's "a thing"
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>some retard thinks its unbalanced because of a facet that has never been used ever
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>it's not broken because it has never happened to me
>I'm such an unironic brainlet that I can't understand the implications just through my own knowledge of game mechanics
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>logi is OP
>use CD's to yank them away and kill them
>thats OP too because theres no counter play
>do a scram chain then
>That doesn't count because Burst jammer that magically means I win even though its never used, never happened, and doesn't even exist
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>>180694345
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>scram chain
>effective counterplay
but it's not
>its never used, never happened, and doesn't even exist
kys honestly
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I locked your CD's from over 100km away because I have a sebo'd devoter sitting near but not on my fleet. Your burst jammers have literally no fucking range and don't affect my devoter because Im outside it. I instantly point all your CD's the moment you land. I also have 2 devoters in fleet doing this exact same thing.
>>180694571
>but it's not
You can't MJD when you're scrammed and if you're not you can't MJD anything away because everyone is scram chained
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>I locked your CD's from over 100km away
nice try but the CDs warped to your fleet from probe results
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>>180694864
>implying I'm not moving
>they somehow land on my fleet, thats moving.
>Implying I didn't see them on D-Scan
>implying my scramchain isn't already up
>implying I don't lock up all you fags instantly and blap your stupid asses
>implying my anti-CD lachesis doesn't instalock you and scram you all
pic related, fucking all your shit up instantly.
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>scram chain
no your jammed
>lock up all you fags
you might get a few if they don't bring anything to damp you out, but a bunch of your ships will still have been memed off your cancer ball
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>this argument
Just give the CD poster a dog image and leave it at that.
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>>180695349
>no your jammed
Burst Jammers don't jam, they just break locks. People will just relock themselves
Also burst jammers have really short range, they don't affect my HIC or Lachesis. They also use a FUCK ton of capacitor just to run ones so good luck running that MJDF.
>damp me out
that lock range is 175km, yea totally gonna damp me out so I can't target you
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>imaginary battles where everything goes according to the plan
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I think a dog image would be more appropriate for the retarded lach pilot who thinks he can lock up and scram 7 ships in 5 seconds (out of an unlimited number of CDs) and thinks ecm burst doesn't exist, and doesn't know what scan res damps are
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>>180695710
>7 ships in 5 seconds
MJFG has a sig penalty of 150% so that lets me lock all you guys in less than 3 seconds
I also have a CD tab specifically for CD's on my overview
>unlimited CD's
I have unlimited Lachesis in fleet.
>scan res damps
don't affect me because I said so
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>MJFG has a sig penalty of 150% so that lets me lock all you guys in less than 3 seconds
you still won't do it. some of them will jump while you're fumbling around changing which target you have selected
>I have unlimited Lachesis in fleet.
this is what I've been talking about the whole time with scaling. let's pretend you can scram 7 maguses in 5 seconds. do you think 3 lachs can scram 21 maguses in 5 seconds? it's never going to happen
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>>180696050
>you still won't do it. some of them will jump while you're fumbling around changing which target you have selected
No they won't I have hotkeys to instantly switch targets and I just faceroll F1-F6 to scram you all. I have unlimited lachesis.
>scaling
your unlimited CD's are countered by my infinity lachesis
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>unlimited command destroyers
>fit unlimited smart bombs
>do unlimited damage
>>
no they aren't. you aren't going to coordinate who scrams what in 5 seconds
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>>180696361
Unlimited titans use unlimited doomsdays and fuck you all up.
>>180696363
Yea I can because I said so, you don't even have CD's they don't exist I'm the best hurr durr dip durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>
low quality dogposting
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>>180696363
My scram chain doesn't fail because Burst Jammers have shit jam strength against machs who are running sebos, % chance to jam is sub 5%
Also my fleet is spread out over 30km with assigned scram chain names in a gigantic congo line, you can't do shit nigger.
My instalock devoter kills all your shit. I have so many the overlap doesn't even matter
I win because I'm the best
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more like your fleet collapses because 2 retarded linebabbies fail to scram chain properly
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>>180696802
More like your MJD bullshit fails because my fleet is mobile and you land way too far away from it to do anything about it and get blapped
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>my anchored afterburner battleship fleet is mobile
>mfw 18km radius on burst jammers
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>>180696928
Burst jammers don't jam
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thanks for posting
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>double/triple jumping
this is aids too
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>Interceptor fleets are impossible to fight without specially fitted thrasher/svipuls
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>shadow cartel
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>Shady Cucktel
Welcome home Paquito.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/63138708/
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>>180654265
>not getting paid vast amounts of money to watch one of your system's statics while the rest of your corp runs sleeper sites and kill drifter battleships
How does it feel knowing you're a cuck, nullbaby?
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>1.01m ehp overheated orca
>machariel bumps me
>doesn't respond when asked if it's a ransom or gank
>report to CCP
>his ship disappears from space 5mins later
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>people in this general
>caring more about isk than PVP
biomass yourselves
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join all-out
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>The flat things on Minmatar ships are LADAR sensors and not solar panels
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>>180702397
What's the point of this, are you trying to infer bumping is a bannable offense?
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ded thred
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HELP!
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>"GUYS GET IN FLEET, CAPS TACKLED!"
>Get in fleet
>Travel to where fleet is
>"lol jk, there were no caps"
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>>180713240
The reality of all the super kills and dank frags PL gets is hours spent sitting on a wormhole or titan then burning home half the time
You have to be dedicated to get those opportunities it's not like queuing for a battleground
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>>180702397
>bump people in .9 or 1.0 systems
>web alts don't help once bumped
>being bumped towards their warp destination doesn't help either since they can't decelerate in time
>concord shows up immediately so it would take even more penalties, gank your mach
Surprised there aren't any anti-bump mods with appropriate penalties
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>>180719714
take even more manpower* to gank your mach
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Rate my shithoggur famalams
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>The reality is that only 5 people in PL actually play EVE while the rest are F1 sheep
>>
oneiros
>>
Why are there so many idiots from the DRF crying about losing their shit when they acted like retards in this general?
>>
who
>>
Drone Regions Federation, and every time one of those retards cryposting about how they lost their snek/rorq/carrier with a picture of anime girl crying, zkillboard shows the idiot is with the DRF.
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>>180719714
bumping machs are usually very undertanked and easy to counter gank
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>let me just gank ur mach with my freighter
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>>180722889
don't have catalyst alts or friends with catalyst alts?
enjoy a life of being bumped then you nigger
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>>180722442
I want to belive he's RPing as the fag losing the ships. On a related topic, how's the intel around there and how safe is it?
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>>180723303
The only good DRF is Dream Fleet
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>>180723303
It's absolutely terrible. There's a reason that HK farms that region for easy kills. Not to mention every other alliance with a blops division stationed there to fuck with the locals.
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Eve must embrace socialism
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>>180726467
Fuck off tumblr
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EVE must embrace anime.
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>>180728652
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>>180729380
hello rebdit
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>>180729478
sup weeb, she isn't real
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>>180729513
nice reddit arguments
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>I don't want that meme I don't like on my /eog/ because it came from a place I blindly hate for literally no reason
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>no reason
>>
>needing a reason to hate meme thieves
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>they "stole" made up caricatures I didn't create
>origin all donut steel
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nice rebbit defence force, ur gonna get many paps in TEST
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>stealing memes
what the fuck are you gonna do about it?
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>Roam C3s
>Pop some dude in his ratting drake
>He reship into a 'PvP fit' and comes into our hole to 'kick our ass'
>Kill that too
>Check his fit
> https://zkillboard.com/kill/63138241/
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u must be very proud of yourself
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>>180732583
wow 2 battleships for one BC you must be really good at this game
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>>180732583
>Constantly checking 'shitfits' to see what I'm doing wrong
>Apparently my pvp fits ARE pvp fits
>I must just suck at pvp
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>>180732583
>needing 2 battleships for a drake
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ecm is balanced
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>Roam C3s
what does this mean
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>>180701870
>guarding a special effect for about 50 cents an hour
>for krabbers
>that white-knuckle adventure
>muh retarded wallet balance
wh poofter pls
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>>180732583
>considering carebear slaughter "skill"
They need to die, but you're almost as bad.
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>>180736510
The thing is, if anything comes through, that means PVP within 5 minutes, which is in short supply in w-space, because everyone and their grandmother either hides in highsec like a cowards or becomes a nullbaby.
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>>180586903
>joining autism corps where members are treated like slaves
u r dumb
join a shitty corp where people try to do fun things
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>>180598000
Lowsec has high population and the most pvp potential. Works best if you can small gang or FW.
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>>180374619
What are some good EWAR modules for an Alpha pleb that can't use dampeners? Or are there dampeners that aren't Omega exclusive?
Trying to build a Kestrel for kiting.
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>fun things
>lol we got totally dumspered but we killed one thing so we are le isk positive also eve is just a game le xdD why are you so serious anon xD
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>Lowsec
>pvp
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>>180702397
bumping is a pretty shitty mechanic anyways.
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>>180738817
scram to disable enemy MWD. As an alpha kestrel your primary pvp skill is identifying enemy ships that are going to defeat you and just GTFO when you see those ships on dscan or if their specific fit outclasses you.
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>>180739007
enjoy being a slave to some autistic fuck, enjoy your mining taxes, enjoy your hours of blindly following orders and waiting around doing something that makes zero isk and is more boring that mining or ratting. Enjoy being less than human.
vs
small gang with bros with very little waiting around doing nothing
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>>180738817
Duh, jammers.
You can't build a great mix of ewar and kiting on alpha characters due to cap issues though.
Just use Suitonia's meme kestrels instead of kitey kestrel. You can't really get too creative with frigs.
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>very little waiting around doing nothing
lol
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>>180740950
an important point about that mwd web scram mse kestrel is it's for nullsec. if you want to pvp in lowsec you need to do things differently. nullsec brawl fits do not work good in lowsec
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>>180742185
How is it different?
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>>180742314
just swap the mwd for an afterburner and use faction rockets instead of t2
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>>180742314
everyone uses ab brawlers in lowsec because there's no bubbles and plexes make it easy to not get kited. ab brawlers counter mwd brawlers
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why is the moros so bad? why wont CCP buff it?
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Moros has rails, and utility mids what more do you want.
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>unskinned moros is 90% grey
>moros skins are all 90% grey
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>caring about skins
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>capital rails unironically
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>EvE online unironically
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Corax a cute!
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>>180746095
Your waifu is shit.
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>corax even ironically
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corax is cute, biomass unironically irl
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javelin scourge rocket
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>>180744397
A better dread that competes with the nag
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[Kestrel, *Simulated Kestrel]
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
IFFA Compact Damage Control
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Small Ancillary Shield Booster
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Scourge Light Missile x500
Thorium Charge S x100
Mjolnir Light Missile x500
Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x180
Cap Booster 25 x57
WTF am I doing? please help
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>>180748556
ignore the ammo part which went dumb.
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>>180748556
never use a small shield ancil, if you can't fit a medium then don't fit it
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Thorium Charge S x100
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>guys we won't undock without 15 logis
mfw dropping fleet
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>>180748726
[Kestrel, *Simulated Kestrel]
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
IFFA Compact Damage Control
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Initiated Compact Warp Scrambler
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x180
Navy Cap Booster 50 x9
fits if I compact the web and scram
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>>180750341
7.0M ISK from the ingame too.
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>ancil
>not mse
why
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>>180733209
>>180733324
>>180735418
>>180737091
>Laughing at someone's shitfit Drake he called PvP ready means I was bragging about the kill
Please leave your baggage at the door.
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>>180750341
>Plugging holes in shields on Frigates
Are you trying to rat in this thing?
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>>180750341
[Kestrel, Erastara's Kestrel]
Ballistic Control System II
IFFA Compact Damage Control
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Medium Shield Extender II
Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
this is what I used to some decent success, change to t1 if you need to ofc
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t2 ab is a bit of a waste of isk
>>180750673
there's no aux pump equivalent for shields, so you use resist rigs
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>>180751072
Just don't pick fights if you know they are rocking EM or Thermal. You want to pick on Gallente brawlers in a Kestrel. Learning to pick your engagements is much more important than any fitting advice, especially for a solo roamer.
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>>180751832
t. fits extender rigs on asb fits
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>>180751832
>Just don't pick fights if you know they are rocking EM or Thermal
>don't fight anyone with lasers, rockets, projectiles
fuck off idiot lmoa
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>>180752265
or drones
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>>180752308
put your empty highs in the middle of the rack
shit mids btw, why do you have an afterburner? why are you brawling with artillery?
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Is this the part of the thread where we post our ironic fits?
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>39.4 s
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yes faggot, I'm totally going 6k when i want to warp xd
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>>180751832
want me to post some kills against the spooky scary EM damage?
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Sabre that launches a bubble should get a weapons timer.
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upvoted
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t. camper
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Your mom should get a weapons timer.
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>You cannot do that while warping.
what did xhe mean by this
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>>180753302
If he's asking for advice on /eog/ he's clearly got no clue what he's doing. It's a lot more constructive to have him start with a small engagement profile he specialize against instead of giving him a multitool and telling them to do everything at once.
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>>180754256
nothing is more fucking gay than flying around lowsec for hours and not getting a fight, you need as many targets as possible to not blow your own brains out roaming
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>It's a lot more constructive to tell him to fly a shitfit and run away from everything
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>don't increase EM resistance on a shield tank
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>>180754604
I think call of duty might be a better fit for you.
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Where do ancillary shield booster BPC come from? BPO don't seem to exist.
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>>180754847
not necessary on a frigate
>>180754940
you're right, doing nothing for 3 hours truly is the thinking man's playstyle
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Do I have to be locked onto a target for my drones to attack it, or can I set them up to just attack anything hostile that comes near me?
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>>180754990
Data sites
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>>180755380
They will attack whatever attacks you and is within their range.
Locks are not required on your part. The one exception is when the enemy has agro'd you before you launch the drones, in which point they will have their thumb up their butt until you give them orders to attack a locked target or a new agro attacks you in which case they'll then kill everything in whatever retarded order they decide.
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>>180755380
if you set them on aggressive they will automatically attack things that you have attacked or that have attacked you. if you want them to initiate combat then you will have to lock up a target and tell them to engage. if it's rats, they'll probably start attacking you after that, so your drones will automatically go attack all of them
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>>180755560
>>180755668
My drone bay is 50, should I get two heavy attack drones or 5 light scout drones? They're just going to be use for rats.
I can use tech 2 scout drones by the way.
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Is there an easier way to compare/contrast differences between Tech I and Tech II things than going back and forth between both pages?
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>>180755935
depends on the size of the ship and the size of the targets
>>180756192
open them both at the same time, next to eachother?
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>>180755935
5 mediums
>>180756192
there's a compare button
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>>180756389
Will there be accuracy falloff or anything like that? Rats are mostly frigates and destroyers, and the wiki says medium drones are best for attacking cruisers.
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>>180756389
Uh, where is this compare button? I don't see it, and trying to open multiple windows just keeps making the main window get replaced by what I click on next.
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>>180756667
there's an option in the menus somewhere to open things in a new window
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>>180756667
variations tab maybe, not sure
>>180756543
mediums are fine vs npc frigs, npc frigs are a joke
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>goons on the move
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>>180586903
>dock up
here's where you went wrong
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>>180723639
wut
Dream Fleet lives in Period Basis
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>>180755074
>not necessary on a frigate
It's absolutely necessary. There are tons of things that do em damage. Acolyte drones, EMP ammo, lasers, missiles. Tons of shit
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>>180759283
>don't dock up
>try to fight
>they jump in more from their hole
>die
docking up is always the correct choice if you can't drop caps on them
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>join fleet because something HUGE gonna happen
>titans, carriers, FAXs, dreads etc
>kill few structures in fountain
>go back
>wasted like 3hrs
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>>180760179
So? It literally doesn't matter
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>>180764279
EVE is 99% anticipation and 1% happening
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>>180764279
are goons invading fountain? are t-c kicking soviet union out?
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>>180764279
bring an ewar frigate next time
>more useful than linebabbies
>get to actually apply yourself in fights rather than f1 on primaries
>if it's a shit op you just kys ingame or leave, no fucks given
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>horde hypes brawl with lumpy
>killahbee FC
>go with horde char
>actually is huge brawl
neat
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>>180764279
In goons I guess? For some reason your guys expected some huge thing to happen when there was honestly nothing much planned in fountain at all, then after seeing those numbers there was definitely nothing planned.
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>>180764279
Most of the time nothing happens. Just join the rageforms.
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>expecting content in fountain
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you dont dock off tons of carriers for nothing? god damn
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>Sappo will never give Esoteria to BRAVE
>you will never burn Fountain and bring the traitor Baki Yuki to justice
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>forgot to put a new clone in blops staging
fffuuuu
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>r/eve alliances will never fuck off back to r/eve
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so... test?
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>my orca got bumped
>eat breakfast, shit, shower
>come back
>still getting bumped attempting to warp
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>>180766020
Pretty sure you can petition that if they go that long
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>>180760595
unironically not playing a videogame because some meanies might kill you
kys
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>>180768148
>feeding whshitters free kills when you can just dock that VNI alt
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>>180764453
dunno, we attacked the Gang bang team niggers
Im new in goons and generally did not understand right what happened.....
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>>180764913
>then after seeing those numbers there was definitely nothing planned.
I felt a little bad for the folks that kept asking in fleet chat whether there was going to be a fight. Most of us knew the most exciting thing would be the SpaceX launch stream.
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>>180764453
I don't think anyone actually wants Fountain.
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>>180764913
We had some retard nigger in an avitar light a cyno in one of the super fleets, that was the most entertaining thing that happend during the whole op
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>>180768397
if you weren't shit you wouldn't feed imagine that
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>>180772885
>REEEEEEEE, why won't you fight my 100mn t3c gang with your 4m SP VNI alt
>we can't actually do shit because everything we could kill just docks
>why won't these nullbears feed us caracals
>they always just dock or blob us with caps when we try to kill something larger than a VNI
>don't they know that we spent 3 hours rolling this hole just so that we can get some ''''content'''?
>i guess we better head back to our hole and keep rolling, guys
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>>180771935
>>180771330
There were like 70 of us and we heard there'd be 700 of you. People got pretty spooked.
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>>180772885
Drop more T3BC's in delve please, my wyvern needs more Kill marks.
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>>180775707
There was 1500 of us in 1DQ when we started rolling out.
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T2 heavy assault battleships when?
>inb4 marauders
Those aren't assault battleships they can't even be used in a fleet
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>wyvern
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>scrubcaps
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Battleship size logi when?
>Inb4 nestor
That's not even a real logi battleship. It fucking sucks and has no purpose and can't even do large remote reps
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cruiser logi already reps more than enough for a battleship
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>nestor has no purpose
flying mobile depot is a purpose
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>>180776984
Take away logi ship pg reductions to large remote reps and cap transfers. This will pretty much force them to use medium or small remote reps
Make some battle cruiser or battleship a t2 logi with large remote reps and cap transfers
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>>180777236
>massive logi nerf
I'm down
really though, t2 logi cruisers rep about as much as t1 logi cruisers. the t2s have fitting and cap bonuses for large reps, the t1s have effectiveness increases for medium reps. the main difference between them is the retarded increasing returns on the logistics skill. they should probably rebalance t2 logi cruisers to work like the t1 to make logi 5 less mandatory
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>>180773956
I'm just saying it's a videogame and should be played for fun. I don't even play any more due to fags like you and your shit attitudes.
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dog.jpg
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>>180778381
it's up to ccp to provide reasons not to just hide from pvp all the time
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>>180778990
agree. whfags should be forced to actually commit to fights instead of being able to run back to the safety of w-space the moment you drop supers on them
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>>180778013
I agree, t2 cruiser logi should be more like t1 cruises. Only able to use medium reps and cap transfers. Then make a battle cruiser or battleship logi with an appropriate price associated with it that uses large cap transfers and remote reps
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>>180779431
nullfags so fucking bad they attempt to roll holes behind us maybe 1/10 times and even then it's with higgsed sigils or some other trash
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>>180779431
I meant the nullfags should have something at stake that people could steal or fuck with if they just run away all the time
and yeah wormholes are fucking gay and too hard to fuck with as a kspace player
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>>180780802
nobody has anything they can lose besides whichever ship they have active and undocked.
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>>180782392
need ESS to be fixed and more appealling, and more things like that
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>>180752308
>fw
Here comes the fucking cancer!
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>>180732583
He was carrying all that hope
>kek
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