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/eagg/ - East Asian Genocide General - Dancing till page 10 Edition

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Pastebin for newcomers: https://pastebin.com/d4kmz03p
Musou Stars OST: https://pastebin.com/eB09X6D4
Recommended Reading: https://pastebin.com/eJ4kNhSE
What we know so far about DW9 (old & busted): https://pastebin.com/yyQCXi69
Cao Cao 2014: https://pastebin.com/UHcpuWM6

Bulletin;
-Dynasty Warriors 9 won't be at E3, Liao Hua is still not playable, but Cheng Pu is.
-DW9 will be open world. We may or may not get a lot of newcomers. Everyone from 8XL and Xun Yu from Empires will return.
-DW9 will be exclusive to the AtariBox.
-Warriors Orochi may or may not be phased out.
-Berserk Musou is out.
-Fate Extella: The Umbral Star is out.
-Sanadamaru is out, named Spirit of Sanada and no Vita version.
-Toukiden II is out.
-Musou Stars trademarked in Europe, called 'Warriors All-Stars'
-ROTK13pucc~ is out.
-tfw no pucc~ 2.
-Reminder to remind people that we exist.
-Fire Emblem Warriors got announced at E3 [the power of friendship!]
-Excluding Fire Emblem (But not really), feel free to discuss anything you think belongs to the general.
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So we're dancing now huh?
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Who is the better Koei twitter? Europe or US?
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>>180321947
Why is he so perfect?
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>>180322287
Cute!
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>>180321947
>-DW9 will be exclusive to the AtariBox.
Damn that sucks. DW9XL mobile port when?
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>10
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Well, things can't be that bad?

least it ain't Koei doing something downright rediculous.
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Sheesh everyone must be sleeping.
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>Ten again
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New characters when? What are the best bets?
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>>180322517
wats this
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>>180329786
Surely the boy Zhang Ren gets at least a half generic.

They need to do waaaay more half generics.
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well, for Samurai Warriors, if they do make a new game, I somewhat expect Anjin Miura, Yasuke, and Yoshiteru Ashikaga as potential playable characters... maybe also Kennyo Honganji, Baiken Shishido and maybe a few others.
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>>180329786

People from blast.

imgur.com/gallery/CL09T
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>>180330403
Samurai Warriors has phased out anyone that doesn't belong to one of the major factions now, and they barely put any time into some of the less important older characters. I'd expect more post Honnoji figures from factions like the Hojo, Mori, or Shimazu along with a token female or two. Probably a new character for some more homo romance with Mitsunari too, so the fujoshi fanbase doesn't get bored.
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>>180322885
Jia Xu
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>>180322517
Ravages of Time Liu Shan.
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>>180331573
>Samurai Warriors has phased out anyone that doesn't belong to one of the major factions now, and they barely put any time into some of the less important older characters.

Which is weird (and kinda sucks) because if anything, the SW setting lends itself more towards individual stories, yet KOEI seems to keep getting it mixed up with their 3K/Sengoku games and now DW9 is back to individual stories while SW5 will probably stick to factions.

>>180330403
Yasuke is redundant. They should just give Ranmaru more attention.

I wanna see Yoshiteru too but because his death was a catalyst for so many things, they'd probably avoid him. His brother on the other hand have a lot of potential, especially now that they've given more attention to Nobunaga's battles around Kyoto.
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>>180334780
I can't imagine Okuni's "fight both sides, then pick a general to kidnap and hypnotize for some rapey time" in the newer games.
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>>180335965
She's one of the most apparent victims, yeah. They also can't seem to decide whether to keep her mystic stuff or not.

I think she should at least be involved with the Mouri. It'd be a lot more interesting than what they got in SW4. Better yet, add Yamanaka Shikanosuke and have them team up to restore Izumo together. She could tease him to no end like she did Goemon.
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>10
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A few more days till the Steam sale so I can finally get DW8E and Spirit of Sanada. Hoping these can hold me over until DW9 comes.
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>>180329786
>New characters when?
TGS

>What are the best bets?
I think it's time for Liao Hua, Bian Shi and either Yuan Shu or Gao Shun.
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>>180330403
>Kennyo Honganji
They should add this crazy monk for like a decade now, dude is literally the final boss for Oda clan.
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>>180344045
Yuan Shu isn't really that popular for the Others, Gao Shun and Zang Ba are the top two for them.
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>>180334780
I think they're going back to individual stories purely because of issues from the open world, like they were talking about. Obviously I have no insight into their design philosophies but it seems like the most convenient way to go about this is just designing the battles first and then each character's story is just a matter of dropping them into the appropriate battles/time eras. DW9 will have over 90 characters, I can't see them getting more than a paragraph of text intro and then maybe an outro each.
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>>180321947
So when will we get an actually decent crossover?
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>>180344252
Eh, I think if Koei want to focus on early cast and story then Yuan Shu is a must, dude is one of the main Villian around that time along with Guo Si duo.
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>>180345830
musou stars?
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So how is Spirit of Sanada, is it any good? I loved DW8XLE but I never played any SW, nor am I really interested in japanese history.
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>>180344252
Yuan Shu was voted 9th most popular OVERALL in Blast. That's pretty good considering there's about 100 or so characters in that game.
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Is SW2E any good?
The only other one I played a lot of was DW5E and I loved that, and what little I remember of DW8E I think it was pretty shit.

Also SW4E is off the table as I dont have a current gen console, thanks koei
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>>180348238
If you enjoyed 5E then you'll probably like SW2E. It does some things better than 5, and some things worse. The most annoying issue though is that due to being released before XL you can't play as any of the new characters.
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>>180347886
Not really.
It's very story based, meaning there's nothing else to do beside the one single story line, the characters selection is extremely limited and they have rev up the grinding and repetitiveness a lot to make up for the otherwise lacking longevity.
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>>180348397
As long as it's somewhat like an expanded ambition mode, it's fine. And I don't mind some grinding, if the characters are fun to play.
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>>180348238
>Is SW2E any good?
It's good. SW4E is basically an upgrade of that except for the personalized convos
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Atelier Musou when?
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>>180351619
The closest thing to that you'll ever get is Warriors All-Stars
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>Page 10
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I would like to see Page 10 end...
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come on sony, put toukiden 2 on a sale already
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I want a Samurai Deeper Kyo Musou
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I know this is out of left field, but I kinda would like a Ragnarok musou.
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>>180361224
>Poor Man's Rurouni Kenshin Musou
Never going to happen
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>>180361698
Besides the fact they both take place in Japan, they have nothing else in common.
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>start reading Kingdom
>scanlations use Chinese names at first
>then out of the blue they turn into Japanese readings for everything but state names
>weebs congratulate them
fucking hell I'm mad, they wouldn't turn Yukimura into Zhentian Xingcun or Osaka into Daban, why turn Ying Zheng into Ei Sei or Xianyang to Kanyou

I can understand doing it in anime since it can be slightly confusing when you hear something completely different than what you see (I only played WO3 with JP voices, but it still messed with me sometimes), but in manga it's unforgivable
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>tfw no page 10
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>>180360268
Now that I really think about it, Cao Ren's blade shied seems to be the beginning of all those goofy and over the top weapon, huh?
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>>180364042
I hate when this happens too, but to be fair it's easier to find the on'yomi (which is usually also written on top of the kanji) than the Pinyin transliteration.
Anyway, I'm glad that Kingdom is published in my country so I don't have to deal with that shit and the heavily filtered images.
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>>180364625
I'd say feather fans shooting lasers is a bit more over than top than a shield with a detachable sword.
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>>180366110
Well, that's more like an over the top move set rather than the over the top weapon.
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>>180364042
I didn't watch it but I assume that the anime uses japanese pronunciation, so the idiots probably were confused who is who when they went to read it.
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>>180366919
actually they assumed this was the case, while anime subs actually used the proper names (still jp dub used jp readings, but that's understandable)

but yes, that's one of the arguments for the jp names, the on'yomi >>180365052 says about also was one (though desu how many hanzi are there with more than one reading? this is stricte a Japanese issue), the strongest ones were that they simply preferred the kanji reading and that there are some characters whose names are in katakana

at least they're good translators and chill about it since they upload .psd files and allow some tinkering + maintain a spreadsheet, but still I'm just in a pedantic minority here
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>page 10
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>Ten
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Guys? Why didn't Ma Chao ask Liu Bong or Kongbong to take in his sick friend Pang De??
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>>180373783
Same reason why he got his family killed.
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>>180373783
Ma Chao would have been angry that someone else had attention lavished on them instead of him and he'd of killed someone in a rage
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Posting best dancing music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPCl08DChQ
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Reporting my findings on emulating SW2+XL

with the 'Unlock Story Mode without Import code', most unique scenarios refuse to load
by unique I mean unselectable from Free Mode
so stuff like Masamune's Mikatagahara, dream stages etc.
also the emu can't load the 'Village Rescue' and 'Pirate Hunt' filler levels
Oichi's Village Rescue is unique and that one works, though

Now if you import, which only works for the American version(with the disc merging trick),
some of the stages start working but most of them still don't load
you just get a black screen with the stage's music playing

you can get past most of this by
playing through the stories with not loading levels in the original SW2
and once you're done, only then start playing XL
but you still won't be able to get all the 5th weapons

>>180378136
If only the game was as good as it's soundtrack
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>>180364625
>killing soldiers with a flute
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>>180381324
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>Ten
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DW10 release date?
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>>180381601
Did she just get up from going down on him? Why the fuck do I still think like I'm 12?
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>>180384710
2024
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>>180386492
that's for DW9
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>>180387142
Correction, DW9 Empires.
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>>180322287
>filename
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>>180323238
>tfw no yellow turban campaign
>tfw no hypothetical yellow turban campaign where zhang jiao and friends successfully show china the light
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>>180389697
>Zhang Jiao's story mode in DW9 is literally going to be one stage
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>>180389697
TFW no hypothetical where Jiao saves everyone from their fates after the rebellion.
TFW he won't save Dong Zhou from becoming evil fat Santa Claus.
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>>180389697
>>180391417
>hypothetical
>implying this isn't the true history the jews don't want you to know about

90% of the folklore about Guan Yu was actually originally about Zhang Jiao.
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>>180391683
crack theory of this thread: Guan Yu is actually Zhang Jiao who realized YTR is gonna fail so he faked his death and fucked off with Liu Bei
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>>180364042
>they wouldn't turn Yukimura into Zhentian Xingcun or Osaka into Daban
Ha ha, I think I'll start doing that occasionally to mess with weebs.

"Man, I find Zhitian Xinchang from the Zhanguo period of Riben such a fascinating character."
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>>180395709
out of all the people he could've chosen he chose Liu Bei?
no wonder YTR failed then
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>>180396337
It did happen once on /a/. Saki threads had a dedicated chink translator who did fast translation of every new Achiga-hen chapter but romanized all the names from pinyin. It became something of a thread folklore, but when the last chapter came out he quickly scanlated the chapter and uploaded it on all online readers, causing massive butthurt and calling it a fake translation.
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>>180395709
The only way I can get on board with this theory is if """Guan Yu""" was secretly sabotaging Liu Gay the entire time.
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>>180395306
Nice hat.
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>>180396337
I cannot believe I figured out who that is

>>180397284
>>180397792
maybe the Zhang brothers = oath brothers
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>>180395306
>le monkey general cheated on this

can't explain that
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>>180397895
So are you saying le sleepy dragon was in on it too?

>tfw it really WAS all a part of his plan to lose battles
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>>180398072
nah, Kongming was born in 181 when they all 'died' in 184, he could've been clueless the whole time
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>>180398325
>implying he wasn't planning everything from the beginning while he was still a sperm cell.
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>>180397895
>>180396337
Who is that supposed to be? Nobunaga?
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Here's another thing I made to kill time
no bully pls
https://clyp.it/scide0b5

>>180402981
>Who is that supposed to be? Nobunaga?
Should be him
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>>180397936
She happened
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>>180403280
Holy shit I think I know which one is this.

Is it Struggle for Existence?
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>>180403857
It does say that in the name but yes, it is Struggle for Existence
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>>180404165
Wow, I'm fucking stupid for not noticing that.
Sounds comfy, by the way.
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>>180404294
>Sounds comfy, by the way.
Thanks, I might do more
It's kind of fun, playing around with the drums, sounds and the like
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>ten
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>Play DW8E
>Sun Quan finally got cool move set
>Can't bear to play as him because his voice is so annoying.

Honestly, I think they better hire a new VA for the guy, this guy voice's not work for Mr.Quan.
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>>180409119
>Honestly, I think they better hire a new VA for the guy, this guy voice's not work for Mr.Quan

>Japanese hiring a new VA just because
no way, not happening unless he dies
like Zhongda's VA(RIP) and then they'll get a VA that doesn't fit the character just like with Zhongda

Also playing SW2 again reminded me of
how much I like Keiji's voice compared to the Japanese version
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>>180409119
I've played DW in japanese since 3, and his VA has always been one of the hardest to listen to. It probably hurts him as a character. Especially for someone that NEEDS to seem important since he's already at risk for being overshadowed.

Since english VAs are as disposable as toilet paper, any of those are likely to be replaced by the next one anyway.
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>>180410373
Who do you think is best VA?
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>>180413174
I don't know about best, but Sima Yi's VA is usually pretty entertaining. The last couple games have let him show more range than just general arrogance, too. Which is nice since he was pretty boring other than his voice before. I guess I feel like Samurai Warriors has some better japanese VAs in general, with DW having a lot more that are seriously annoying.
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>>180413798
>I don't know about best, but Sima Yi's VA is usually pretty entertaining. The last couple games have let him show more range than just general arrogance, too. Which is nice since he was pretty boring other than his voice before.
Characterization hasn't been DW's strong point
I just can't take him seriously now that he sounds just like Motochika to be honest

>DW having a lot more that are seriously annoying
Thankfully those characters are mostly non-vital to the story
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I wish there was an option for Chinese voices.
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>>180415982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdzL01Mhmho
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>>180415982
>>180416156
if you want to experience the glory of Chinese dubbed DW3(no XL though) for yourself,
I do have a copy
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>tfw no dw9 news

wew kt wew
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>>180420310
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Fucking end me already.
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>we'll have some new dw9 news for you soon ;^)
>haha no we won't it's just an observation you could make yourself by simply looking at xiahou dun haha

just what the heck did they mean by that
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>>180389697
Go play DW4.
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>>180421105
Can't wait for that DW9 2018 release date haha
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>>180421105
>no vita

time to die.
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>>180421328
haha someone please come over here and kill me haha
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>>180421493
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>>>/v/381394604
Requesting backup
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>>180421547
>tfw the sweet embrace of death
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>>180423646
Why bother trying to argue about video games in a board that doesn't care about video games? /v/ is a fucking shithole now more than ever.
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>>180423646
It's not unresponsive, but all those other things are relevant to SW4 in particular in my experience.
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>>180423646
This is a good opportunity to keep the thread from dying.

Quick, lead the person to the general.
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>>180423646
So there's another "musous are shit" memer. I expect them every once in a while.
But this >>>/v/381395850 response (by you I assume) is good enough.
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>>180424412
He stopped replying after that post.
Still, it's amazing how many people hate musou titles when they're as basic as it gets in terms of a game.
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Does blue reflection have musou costumes? might have to buy it just for that...
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>>180416437
gimme
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>>180424763
People hate on them because of how OP you can look when beating the shit out of crowds of enemies. They just want them to be harder, that's all.
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>>180425138
They are repetitive to the extreme in a lot of cases. If it wasn't for the setting and characters of the different games, it really wouldn't have gone anywhere as a genre. A good part of /v/ wouldn't give anything with a bunch of Chinese or Japanese games even a look, so it's pretty much pointless to try to defend it to them to begin with.
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>>>/v/381398352
tl;dr musous are shit because they're too videogamey.
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>>180426126
Even most of the discussion here is about characters and not the gameplay. Most of us would kill for a better system, but Koei has fucked it up when they've tried for major changes in the past.
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>>180426314
But DW9 will save the series...right?
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>>180426524
God, I hope so. I enjoyed 8, but I was totally burned out on it by the end. Musou Stars didn't make me any more confident that they can fiddle with the battle system in a positive way, though.
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>>180426314
The whole point of the gameplay was always the 1 vs 1000 aspect. The series will never be something like Ninja Gaiden unless you want a game that centers around 1-4 characters and a level kill count that matches, well, I'm actually not sure how many enemies you typically kill in a NG game.
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>>180426797
Stars was just a cost-effective experiment used to show off Zhou Cang and generate interest in KT's dormant IP's.

Opoona Toona: Electric Boogaloona never ;_;
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>>180426314
I can't think of a single long-running general that actually talks about gameplay all the time anymore.
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>>180426926
It's not about making it more like another series, just making changes that improve on the bad parts of the existing one. Stuff like figuring out a reason to use different attacks, making officer fights more interesting, giving you a reason to kill peons and run around the battlefield.

Making the game a little more strategic would help it rather than hurt. SW1's system which used missions to totally change how a battle played out were a good example of that. Not that they need to revive an old concept, but it seems like they've taken a step back from making the battles more complicated.

>>180427291
Yeah, but it's an experiment where they can try out new stuff for the other series, like they did with Orochi.
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>>180427546
Let's face it, the only thing they'll ever improve is how much easier it'll be to wipe out a group of peons.
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>>180427776
>yfw every character becomes a hyper-style in SW5
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>>180428504
>SW5
Wonder how they'll handle that one.
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>>>/v/381395850
nice
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>>180429982
Ultra Attacks, baby
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>>180430750
Xtreme Attacks, it drags you to a different battle entirely
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>>180431278
Uber attacks, literally travel backwards in time and kill the mothers of the soldiers before they give birth to them.
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>>180413798
>SW has some better Japs VA
>DW having a lot more that are seriously annoying
Agree, Sun Quan, Zhou Yu, Liu Bei, Xiao Qiao, Zhu Rong, Diao Chan come into my mind.
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>new trailer
>it's fucking nothing

woow beating up hundreds of guys again so fun

fucking hacks show us something new
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>>180436292
Link? I wanna see.
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>>180436703
https://youtu.be/5uuj26lFUrk
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>>180437225
>spent a month waiting for tor this
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>>180437225
Jesus Christ, what was in that barrel?
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>>180437450
I bet those pesky alchemists did this
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>>180437225
Well holy fucking shit.

>it's fucking nothing
BULLSHIT. WE FINALLY GOT GAMEPLAY.
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>>180437225
Someone put this in the OP next thread.
We're one step closer.
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New screenshots too.
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Guan Yu is a Jedi confirmed.
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Now to end this dump with a bang.
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>>180438192
>>180438321
>>180438456
Sending dudes flying is super satisfying, but what if they made a game where you cut through goons like Revengence?
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>>180438763
>>180437648
Ancient Chinese Manhattan Project.
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>>180438983
ninja gaiden
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Any new art on how the females look this time? Werent they saying they wont be slutting them up this time? I want to see Lingqi in a full chinese battle dress, complete with a helmet.
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>>180437225
Well, at least we got to see bits of the new movesets
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>one minute trailer
Eh, it feels like Koei only put this out because people online were ranting about no real gameplay footage yet. Its so little, its almost nothing.
I mean I'm hyped for the game, but come on Koei. Give us something new or at least more fleshout out rather than sixty seconds of DW combat.
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>>180439748
That was barely a trailer, more like a glorified teaser. The game was reportedly only 40% completed last month, so yeah, it is very likely they hastily put out this trailer to calm down the fanbase for almost 2 months of no new info
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>>180437225
>peon ai still stand around doing nothing while being attacked
>not even pretending to pay attention anymore

This was pretty disappointing
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great trailer huh guys
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>>180439748
Well, the game is not even half finish, mate. They will start marketing DW9 for real around TGS when the game is about 70-80% complete.
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>>180379973
I wish all the games after it had those perfect loop light attacks.

Made me feel like a badass without the awkward pause between combos.
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>/v/ is more hyped about the trailer than /eagg/
Really makes me think
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>>180438065
>>180438192
>>180438321
>>180438456
So they're keeping the animations from 8XL? I guess it's okay, but what about the new battle system
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Does it look to anyone like the attack animations kind of stutter when they hit something in the trailer?
Kind of reminds me of SW3 to be honest

>>180444163
DW6's movesets did look good, the motion capture was a really good idea
Also some of the deadlock win animations are really satisfying to watch, like Diao Chan's for example
DW6 had one good idea with the movesets
and that was splitting them so you choose when to use which attack
kind of like in Basara with its skill system
so instead of having to go through a set of normal attacks to get to the charge attacks you want to use
you can use it whenever you want instead
though as all things DW6 it's not done 100%
the movesets are too sparse
the light attack being 16 attacks is too much
other the other side, charge attacks having only 2 types is not enough
the grabs are also a nice idea never to be seen again
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>>180437225
0:11 ugh, the ground graphics didn't load and stayed in low LOD
Also looks really empty, the graphics are pretty but it looks very unfinished, I think this teaser was a mistake

>>180446276
Looks like it
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>>180446431
>DW6's movesets did look good, the motion capture was a really good idea
If I'm not some mistaken, a couple of the performers got hurt because Koei wanted to have really crazy moves and they got a lawsuit out of it.
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>>180446431
>motion capture was a really good idea
Not anymore with all dat crazy move set.
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>>180437225
>dead AI
>completely empty world
>graphical issues
Looks like the teaser of a game which is at least two years from release.
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>>180447205
Stuff like Zhao Yun's musou finisher definitely doesn't look like something you get on a first try

>>180447416
It's kind of like they tried to go a bit more Basara
but the results are not what you'd call good
either you make everything kuhrayzee or you don't
making some of it kuhrayzee while keeping the old just makes it not mesh well to me
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>>180448380
>they want to go a it Basara.
That's very hard for them for a very simple yet very critical problem...the animation and smoothness of movement, Basara is very good at that.
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>>180449093
and Basara doesn't give you the bullshit of 'fighting in an army'
where everyone is mostly incompetent and a liability
it's just you solo and the soldiers are more for decoration than anything
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>>180450081
And that's what people want, you don't need strategy and shit when you play this kind of game, you play it because it give you this sense of absolute and op-ness.
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>>180444793
To be fair, /eagg/ suffers from he long wait so the PV ended up made us feel unsatisfied more than anything, whereas /v/ probably doesn't care about the game until someone drops that trailer there
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>>180378136
that gif goes so well with the song holy shit
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>>180378136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFOKv128CTE
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>>180448342
Well, Koei said 2 months ago that it's only 35-40% done, anon.
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>>180450081
>and Basara doesn't give you the bullshit of 'fighting in an army' where everyone is mostly incompetent and a liability

That's actually one of the things I didn't like about SB3. I like fighting in what feels like a battlefield, rather than a linear action-adventure level (not that there's anything inherently wrong with that).
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I swear to god, the PC port better not be ps4 character models with ps3 assets this time. Not again.
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>>180454353
Wish granted, because DW9 is PS4 exclusive
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>>180454353
There's no PS3/PSV version of DW9 and Omega Force has been making current gen ports only for quite a while now.
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In ROTK13, who would be better in combat: somone with low stats with good weapon proficency (43 WAR but A in Spears) or higher stats with shit weapon profiency (50 war but B in horses)?
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>>180423909
>fire attack JUST

Another exquisite meemee to add to the collection.
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Is he... /our guy/?
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>>180460708
No because all of his other opinions are trash
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>>180460708
what's there to not get

I agree with all the shit the series gets but that doesn't mean I don't like them
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>>180460708
I don't like this attitude, even when he's praising it.
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>>180457850
Just look at the unit's stats while switching officers.
Also, set the units by yourself taking bonds into account if you want to maximize their abilities.
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WHAT IS THIS GUY?
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HELLO?
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>>180467697
Do you need something?
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Hell yeah I'm done with this game.
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>>180469805
I forgot that even existed. Did they update it significantly?
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>>180470149
Kinda, but i liked previous one more.
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>>180460708
I hate sterling, but his love for DW is always nice to see
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>ROTK13 is shown as being on sale
>59,99
t-thanks gabe
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>>180470607
Oh its actually 60% off. 24 merkelbucks
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>>180470607
Spirit of Sanada is not even on sale. I only have $46.
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Well Spirit of Sanada came out when, last week? I doubt they put it on sale. Koei is a bitch when it comes to sales. I'm actually surprised ROTK is 60% off.
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>>180471030
It's been almost a month and according to some steam stats, they only sold over one thousand.
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>>180471030
tfw too stupid to quote on an anime imageboard
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>>180438652
Jesus h christ.
Look at the army spanning the horizon.
Do not fucking downgrade this.
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>>180472597
PS4 Pro exclusive draw distance. :^)
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>>180473072
>DW9 on PC is a cancelled PS3 version port
Watch this happen.
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>>180470801
Base game is for 24 euroshekels, but PUK is 20% off so that comes up to 73 for both.
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>Dynasty Warriors Online will never come back to the west.
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>>180474102
Shit, I'm blind it's 49 for both.
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Koei's western branches uploaded the trailer too, hopefully we'll get a closer gap between release dates.
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>>180474171
I remember they were really taking their time with giving content to the western release
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>>180474231
There are still quite a lot of money you have to add if you want all the scenarios.
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Steam summer sale, Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence Ascension is on sale. for aprox. 20-25 USD.
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DW8XL is now 70%. Lowest discount yet huh?
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>>180480447
Sequel when?
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>>180321947
Im not buying DW9 if it's getting ported to PC
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>>180482113
What if they port it after you buy it?
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>>180482452
Im waiting a year before buying it
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>>180482113
Why?
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>>180482558
What if they port DW9-II?
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>>180482636
That's fine because i didn't pay full price for DW9
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>>180450578
fuck
off
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>>180437225
Honestly this looks pretty good. I was expecting the open world to be Sanadamaru's "open world". Is it me or the costumes aren't new at all?
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>>180482587
Pc cucks don't deserve this game
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>>180483067
>Is it me or the costumes aren't new at all
They're slightly changed, but Blind and Beard had decent costumes in 8 anyway so they're not the ones who require the most drastic changes.
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Reporting more findings on SW2+XL

there's actually a DVD5 pirate version of XL(which is a DVD9 game) floating around the net
that's the reason I was able to extract the iso, because it was a pirated DVD5 version
and that's very probably the reason why some stages hang and I also noticed that movies don't play at all
I'll try finding a proper DVD9 copy

also does anyone know why the DVD9 iso is impossible to extract?
instead of about 7GB you end up with 1.7GB
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>Spirit of Sanada STILL not with a discount
>Everything else is
There's s-still store issues, r-right?
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>>180485737
Koei never puts their most recent games on sale
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>>180486041
PUK is though.
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>>180482113
>>180482558
What if KT is secretly an NSA front and they're spying on your every move waiting to verify you've bought the game before announcing the PC port?
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>>180486291
PUK came out in February and it actually costed less when you count both the launch discount and the included free DLCs.
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What if DW9 on Xbox One X?
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I want Berserk Musou and Warriors All-Stars on Vita, physically. Holy shit. Paying the Koei tax on a digital game is unacceptable, unless you are on PC and that's your only option.
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>>180486447
I thought it came out by the end of April? Well for the English version at least.
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>Yukimura calling Nobuyuki Father after Odawara Castle
keep it up KT
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>>180448342
>dead AI

The NPCs more than liikely set to not make any action in the trailer.
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who /watchedthetrailerseveraltimesalreadyinabjectdesperationforfuckingsomething/ here
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ANY GOOD FANFICTIONS?
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>>180494910
There's a kind of old one by a guy named Luo Guanzhong called "Romance of the Three Kingdoms"
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>>180494989
I dunno, that sounds a little gay.
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Thanks to the steam sale, I now possess Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence Ascension.
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Not even a trailer can revive /eagg/.
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>>180497402
Not even DW9 will save /eagg/
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>>180497596
DW9 will be bad
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>>180499704
DW10 will be great though
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I'm ogling DQ: Heroes in the Steam sale, is it worth it?
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>>180500165
from what I recall, it doesn't exactly play like your average Musou, it plays more like an action RPG, but with a Musou feel.
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>>180500431
Huh, interesting.

A good action RPG, at least?
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Is Samurai Warriors 4-II worth 24.99?

Also, should I get that or Bladestorm: Nightmare?
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>>180500165
2 is better. I'd pirate 1 first to see if you'll like it. Several levels in the beginning basically have you defending an objective while fighting off waves of enemies and closing the portals to stop waves of said enemies. Overworld map is menu based. I did like the OC characters of 1 though.
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>>180500705
Samurai Warriors with an individual character focus or Bladestorm with it's squad based focus?
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>>180500909
is Bladestorm: Nightmare as good as vanilla Bladestorm? i loved the shit out of the demo for the original i played all the way back in 2008
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>>180501096
From what I recall, it's enhanced with an additional storyline where Joan becomes evil, and you can have monsters as a squad type.
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>>180501290
thanks. it's cheaper too.

but man i really love samurai warriors 2. ill figure it out
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>>180500705
I put about 175 hours into it without having played normal 4, so time-wise it was worth the money. There's a lot of repeating stages, though. The character stories are also mostly awful, but that's partly because the newer characters are mostly awful. It DOES have dancing Katsuie in one of the stories, though. The gameplay is an upgrade over SW3 though, and the tag-team characters that let you send people all over the battlefield to save you time is godly.
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>>180501594
man...

is that dungeon crawling mode fun?
4-II is inferior to samurai warriors 2, right? maybe ill just replay that, its been like 10 years....
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>>180501896
I had some fun with the infinite dungeon thing, but I don't know if it would change whether the game would be worth it or not.

SW2's storylines are better, but I don't think I'd personally want to play it again because of the pure savescumming hell of farming rare skills. 2XL was great too, and gives the only chance of using Katsuie before they nerfed him.
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>>180492689
I'm actually curious. When you first saw this TGS trailer for DW6 in 2007, what are your thoughts on it? Hopes? Expectations?

All I could think about was "holy shit, Zhao Yun is doing stuff from the DW5 intro". I remember watching the 1st and 2nd trailer over and over again because I just couldn't wait for it. During this time, I was still stuck to lurking and recently got out of /f/, and I don't remember seeing or looking for threads about it. I might have still been lurking gamefaqs at the time too.

https://track5.mixtape.moe/mrtmaw.webm
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>>180502197
and i hear 4-II's gameplay is better?

this is a pickle. i think i'll get Warriors: Legends of Troy from a local used game store (not gamestop) for like 7 bucks and just nab Bladestorm
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>>180502552
I don't remember anyone saying it was going to suck, other than the people that already hated DW. Just vague recollections of people thinking Lu Bu's weapon was silly. I think people were hyped up about the swimming and ladders or something. No one could have expected renbu to be as boring as it ended up.
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>tfw its page 10
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>>180505893
Mmmm /eagg/'s favorite page
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Hello /eagg/

I'm kinda in the mood for some Koei strategy games lately. So, is Sphere of Influence - Ascension a straight upgrade from regular Sphere of Influence? For some reason, the former is less expensive than the latter.
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>>180507324
From what I've heard the AI doesn't work too well with some of the new mechanics and makes it a lot easier, but I've only just started playing vanilla SoI.
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>>180505893
>>180506093
We must meme harder.
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>>180507324
I think this might be of assistance:
>>180128036
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>>180507324
What the other guy said. This review explains some of the AI problems. I don't know if there's another one that people would recommend.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/bloodypork/recommended/375450/
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>>180507592
>>180507792
>>180507806

Thanks a lot. I will dodge Ascension for now, and hope that they fix it, err, someday. No chance of that happening I suppose, but oh well.
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At last, a true bump!
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>>180502552
I felt the same way. Seeing Zhao Yun do all the DW5 opening moves made me hyped for the game, and then it finally released...

As much as I hated it back then, in recent years I've come to appreciate some of the more minor things it did well that have mostly been abandoned in recent titles.
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>>180510487
well, I just bought it so... yeah...
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>page 10 is draining /eagg/'s fatigue
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>>180513315
Realistically, what could Koei reveal to bring back life in /eagg/?
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>>180513627
Lianshi
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>>180513627
DW visual novel
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>>180513627
Zhao Yun gameplay
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>>180513627
New details/characters or more gameplay footage that isn't just characters clearing crowds of enemies
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>>180513627
Fleshlight peripheral incorporation.
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>>180513627
Consistent character and gameplay mechanic reveals.
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http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/sangokushi13/fortune/

Put something in the text box and get assigned a random ROTK13 officer. Post your results!
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>>180515946
I got Yuan Shu.
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>>180515946
Yangshi, Ma Chao's wife.

bye guys
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>>180515946
I do not understand these words.

I got Guan Yu anyway. Eh. Actually, might be a good assassin run, since he murdered a dude before he met Liu Bei.
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>>180515946
Sun Ba, son of Sun Quan who was forced to commit suicide after fighting with his brother Sun He due to succession.

Meh.
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>>180515583
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't accept a dumbass like me in there... but there is always CAW
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>>180516340

If you want an assassin character, do Lingqi in 200.
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>>180515946
I got Based Zhao Yun's son, Zhao Guang
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>>180425138
Meanwhile, DW3 continues to display even to this day the most ridiculous of foot soldier AI and damage output (ie. those GODDAMN FUCKING ARCHERS) as well as some of the jankiest bugs like major officers vanishing into thin air and then reappearing with a full health bar right behind you.

Too bad by this point the game is so dated you'll only hear complaints about said glitches or how badly it's aged.
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>>180516741
Even DW6 had entire platoons charging at your ass while you were beating up someone else so you had to put that roll button to use since their attacks broke your guard. I'll stop talking about DW6 now.
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>>180516741
The most competent musou foot soldiers are SW1's, where they even had their own combos (though SW still has more competent foot soldiers to this day). I think it went a little too far, it was aggravating in the same way as when you play DW8 on Chaos and 2-3 of those peons will do their lunging attack charging at you and you'll lose half your health. Replaying SW1 I'm realizing that morale was borderline worthless as well, you can wipe out half the enemy army and it'll barely budge and all your allies will still be struggling.

Personally, I feel like the best ways to implement challenge are to make a greater variety of peons (like SW) and to put the difficulty in managing the map and achieving objectives. Give the player multiple objectives at once and force them to adjust their plan constantly. They seem to have struggled with the whole checkpoint/base system over the whole series since individual troops are sometimes literally worthless. Maybe have a special unit spawn when you take a checkpoint that actually can take down an officer if left unintended,
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>>180517946
You barely notice the peons in SW1 since you have to deal with the insanity that is strike and sky ninjas, though. They are more dangerous than the officers sometimes.
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>>180518345
Don't remind me of that fucking jump shockwave attack. I'd even say the officers are some of the easier enemies to deal with.
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>>180513627
beautiful succulent women

seriously where the fuck are the girls
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>>180518345
Are the sky ninjas those little shits that dig into the ground and then periodically kancho your ass?

Do they ever bring back the mechanic of being able to stomp them out of the ground with non-jump charge ground smashers again? I haven't played SW4 but I do remember that being noticeably absent going into SW3 from SW2.
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>>180519316
Huh, I thought you could still do the jump charge to knock them out, but they didn't really stand out since they did such a small amount of damage after the first game. The ground thing was annoying, but the jump attack they did that was accompanied by the whistle was really dangerous.
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>>180519316
SW4 only has regular and fire ninjas, and sumos.
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>>180513627
Chi Bi
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>>180515946
>He Jin
Goodbye /eagg/, I'm going to do something with my life like the fictional Sleepy Dragon would have wanted
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>>180515946
I don't know what to say.
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>no custom event creator in vanilla NASoI, so can't "mod" in new questlines for under-utilized clans/characters
>AI doesn't even actually utilize the new gameplay mechanics in Ascension

Fuck.
That new Nobunaga's Ambition better fucking have an event creator by default and have officer play with decent AI swear to god.
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>10
>>180528870
was a new NA was annouced? it's been like less than a year since Ascension.
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>>180532481
please don't post pictures of my wife
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>>180531608
A new NA game called Taishi was confirmed to be in development, just search for it on gematsu or something
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>>180531608
It was because of the anniversary, meaning the Ascension will remain a broken mess forever.
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>>180513627
Waifu with slutty outfit and Husbando with badass armor.
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rare photo of Zhuge Liang! you must have permission to save this photo from me !
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>>180533150
your wife is a furry
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>>180533630
Taishi Ci is getting his own game?
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>>180542478
I'm a fur
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>>180469805
blue Jian and red Zhongda look so good

>>180470607
Sphere of Influence is 50% down too at 30€, vanilla RotK is 24€ and PUK is 20% down at 28€, so the bundle actually saves 3€

>>180515946
>>180516340
first is name, second is role (ruler, general etc.)
I got the worst Zhuge (Zhan) and fucking Jiang Wei, guess I'll better get ready for Deng Ai's massive lance
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Reporting with yet more SW2XL stuff
I found what's apparently a DVD-9 copy
but the dream stages+pirate hunt+village rescue still hang for some reason
I suspect it's to do with the second layer not being read properly by the emu or it being an improper rip

if there's any Anon with SW2XL, could you please check the disc size in windows explorer?
the one I have now is 3,9GB but the iso itself is 7,72GB
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>page 10
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What's the best/latest Musou game so I can get my fix? Last one I played was DW7 but I don't know enough about them all to find the various franchises.
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>>180550353
PC/PS3/PS4?
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>>180550353
one piece pirate warriors 3
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>>180532481
Oichi is for
A. Anal
B. Paizuri
C. Blow jobs
D.Mindbreak doujins
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>>180551079
D final answer
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>>180550353
Depending on your system, DW8XL, SW4E, SW4-II.
Disregard what this guy says >>180550639
if you're on PC, because the PC port is absolute and utter trash. It has Vita version assets, and some transformation effects are broken.
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>>180515946
hmm
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>>180551079
C
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>>180551079
>>180551215
>>180551716
wow rude
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>>180551221
>>180550639
>>180550624


PS4/PC, I'm probably looking at once piece 3 or SW4-ii, of the options, which is the biggest time sink with the most stuff to do?
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>>180552008
if you are ps4 then get sw4empires, and warriors orochi 3
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>>180552008
I agree with >>180552424
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>>180515946
I got Ora Buddha.
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>tfw its page 10
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>>180552008
As the others have said, SW4E is probably your best bet in terms of time sink. OPPW3 is great, but it really is only story mode plus one other mode
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Would you rather play DW 9 right now

Or go on a road trip with Deng Ai, five Zhenjis, and three Lianshis dressed as cheerleaders
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>last empires was dw5e and sw2e
>try sw4e
>all these confusing shit thrown at your face
>get into first battle
>get my ass kicked
>never play it again

is there a sw4e guide for dummies
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>>180559506
>do you want DW9 or DW10
tough decision
>>
I've never really played musous other than One Piece PW3 and DW4 (I think) when I was younger.

Would DW8 on steam be a good purchase to try and get my feet wet?
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>>180559506
One (1) Lianshi
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>>180563008
I'm sorry, sir, but two's the best I can do.
Final offer
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>>180563001
No, watch Three Kingdoms 2010 first
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>>180551079
E. All of he above
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>>180564796
>he
Oh my
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>>180563001
DW8 is the best one on steam really.
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This is your mother for tonight.
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>>180544001
Will you play his game
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>10
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I'm still triggered by this.
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>>180574430
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>>180574430
There, now the colors are in the right places.
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>>180574430
That almost seems intentional.
>>180578712
That is just bad.
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>>180578730
whoops, I didn't rotate it enough, haha
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>>180578827
why on earth would they intentionally do that
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>>180579257
To trigger people I would assume. Photoshopping bait is an age old tradition.
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>>180578827
>>180579257
>>180579439
Look at 8:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCn8ux2gbs
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>>180579784
Oh shit, it's actually from something and not a map you guys made. Never mind.
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>>180579784
Why the fuck does jewtube keep recommending that to me
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Will DW9 have better music than Sanada's game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZpUtawQ8_w
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>>180580062
The OST is like 70% why I'm hyped.
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Oooh, baozi!
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>>180582602
I wish I could nibble on Guan Yinping's Baozis
>>
Next news dump when?
>>
>>180588163
Late July
New screencaps of Cao Cao (costume barely changed from 8)
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>>180589103
Source?
>>
how common is dubbing dialogue over in series like Three Kingdoms?
in some scenes with Sima Yi I noticed he calls Cao Cao 主公(zhugong) instead of 魏王(weiwang) long after he gets that title
his lips clearly say zhugong but you hear weiwang instead

the scene at Han Zhong where Cao Cao collapses after getting the baooooo that Zhao Yun's coming has it IIRC
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yippity doo long live shu
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>>180597880
>yippity doo
Typical shufags.
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>>180594503
>zhugong

So that's what they were saying.
I thought it was zhugou.
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>>180601307
BBBBAAAAOOOOOO
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>>180601307
BAOOOOOO
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>>180601307
BAOOOOOOOOOOO
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On PC, is Spirit of Sanada a better port than SW4-II or is there no improvement?
>>
A NEW WORLD
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>>180606220
By who's design?
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>>180606347
His
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>>180609071
Free benches for everyone!
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>>180609071
What would Adou's ideal world be? A land of free candy, chocolate milk, and criminally short skirts?
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>>180601307
>messanger
BAOOOOOOOOO
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>>180611592
WAKE UP
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Scurrying away from page 10.
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>DW9
>Koei confirm no more hypo route, history only.
>Only one ending for each character.
>Can not make Ambition man and Stonecold prince rule the land
>Can not make Tiger Dad and Tiger Bro rule the land
>Can not make Muehahaha daddy and Meat Bun Bro unite the land in their life time
>It's Koei pull another boring history class on us again.

What the fuck, Koei? Isn't this shit supposed to be an open world?
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>>180601307
BAOOOOOOO!
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>>180609071
>Head is shaped like a snake too
They can't keep getting away with this.
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>>180615128
Yeah, I'm not seeing the point in an open world if there is only historical routes.
>>
>>180615128
What does the open world have to do with that? The fact that it existed in previous games shows it's not linked to an open world.
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>>180604485
It's a PS4 port, but it doesn't really run on 60
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ROTK13 is finally on sale. Do I need any DLC other than Pucc ?
>>
>>180628758
Having the legendary officers would be good (most of them are free anyway), the existing officers really isn't enough to fill the whole map, especially with the death/kill rate in the game
>>
So, what are you guys playing these days while rotting away waiting for DW9?
>>
>>180631534
in England for a wedding, going to local pubs every night.

Other than that, just playing Endless Legend and other 4x games.
>>
>>180631534
Basara 3 and I'm playing through Chaos Legion again for nostalgia reasons
>>
post cute girls
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>>180634190
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>>180631534
Sumeragi, also SW4E but I'm stuck being autistic about the scenario I want to make in Genesis Mode.

>>180634190
That's all we ever do
>>
>>
>>180513627
High School AU Dating Sim
>>
>Koei portray Sima Zhao as mr.lazy man with brocon issue.

Talk about miss opportunity, dude has a potential to be an evil mother fucker that take no shit from others and beat the shit out of people left and right, better dude actually win the war and died a winner.
>>
>>180636048
he died a retard that ruined the sima family
>>
>>180636404
That's Sima Yan.
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>>180636510
dont forget Sima Yan spawned a literally retard
>>
>>180636554
He spawn a good son and a retard...and he happens to choose a retard as his heir even worse make Jia Nanfang that said retard's spouse and everything went downhill from there.
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Long ago in a distant land,
I Cao Cao, the Blue master of Ice, unleashed an unspeakable ambition!
But a Foolish Chinese Warrior wielding a magic strategist, stepped forth to oppose me.
Before the final ship was sunk, I tore open a portal in time, and flung him into the future where my evil is Law!
Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Cao Wei!
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>>180637206
>my evil is Law
>not my Ambition
0/10
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How do you pronounce his name?
>>
>>180638778
Tào Tháo
>>
what sort of challenge should i set myself in rotk 13?
>>
does /eagg/ pay attention to Lu vs Lü?

>>180638778
The way TK2010 does, just like with everyone else
>>
I want to kiss Ranmaru
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>>180638778
Cao Ahman
>>
>>180638778
[tsʰǎu tsʰáu]
>>
>>180638778
Co Coh (Beng-tek)
>>
>>180638778
Why is his name so dumb?
>>
>>180643401
Those ideograms probably had a completely different pronunciation 1800 years ago.
Actually, they probably had shittons of different pronunciations depending on your region.
>>
>>180638778
Sow Sow, but sometimes I slip back into Cow Cow.
>>
>>180638778
>>180643716
>tfw always read it as cow cow even though I know that's wrong
>>
>>180639004

Activitate the Gongsun Yuan rebellion dlc event and try to win with him.

You'll probably need createf officers for this.
>>
>>180638778
General Tso's
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>>180645830
Is there a decent channel or a collection of the DLC events? I can only find ESL-level custom ones on Youtube
>>
>>180647814

Their on the steam store for free, in game their called original events 1-13(?). The Gongsun Yuan one is called The Other three kingdoms or something like that. Also what platform are you on?
>>
>>180652626
I have a DLed ROTK13 game on the PC but no PUK, was just interested in the game's historical events, as well as the new ones they've added.

I might buy the whole game in a few years when I've gotten my life together.
>>
>>180652739

Ah in that case, I dont think anyones uploaded the bonus events but this guy's made some pretty good ones.

This series about Xun Yu is pretty good too: https://youtu.be/3EXZYtbdL4A

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxwHjzGlMpXRBEgT5qWSg9i6HesxtZpnY
>>
>>180652739
>>180653053

Also this guy has each of the 3K leaders answering the Sengoku bird question https://youtu.be/ft1rQRou95E
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>>180637206
>Cao Wei!
Like always
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>>180634413
Stop posting my waifu
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>tfw you remember that the gameplay """reveal""" trailer kind of sucked
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>>180657169
It's TGS or bust.
>>
heh
>>
>>180661394
hue
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>>180661653
hao
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>>180662649
ba
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>>180664983
o
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>>180661394
>>180661653
>>180662649
>>180664983
>>180665163
Cease this foolishness
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>>180638778
Cowwwwww Cowwwwww
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>>180665880
Why is his name translated with a C if they wanted us to say it with an S sound
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>>180666429
>Why is his name translated with a C if they wanted us to say it with an S sound
it's not an S sound, though
it's C because Pinyin, they may have gotten inspired by Central Europe - Czech, Slovak, Polish, Hungarian also use C for the sound
and the sound is like the 'ts' in 'its' in other words literally a T and an S said at the same time
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>>180667305
It's not a central europe thing, it's "every language that's not based on the germanic barbarian speech" thing. And english is the worst of them, by being a native english speaker you're permanently retarded in learning pronunciation of other languages.
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>>180670050
It's not a central europe thing, it's "every language that's not based on the germanic barbarian speech" thing.
what's always weird to me are words like tsar and tsunami where some people straight up ignore the T, even though the sound itself is used in English

but I can't even imagine how fucked up it must to learn to read and write as an English native
"okay kids, this thing is called A and it makes these 6 vowel sounds"

I mean, I learned how to read from my country's version of the fucking wheel of fortune
they say the letter, say a word beginning with the letter, then it shows up on the screen - simple, yet effective
because it's mostly phonetic
whereas languages like English and French seem hell bent on using 500-year-old spelling
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last night I dreamed I forgot to bump /eagg/ and the thread died
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>>180672019
That's not a dream anon that's a nightmare
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>>180671927
>tsar and tsunami where some people straight up ignore the T
Tsar doesn't have the t sound. To pronounce c/ц:
>keep your teeth tightly shut, compared to a slightly opened mouth with t
>don't touch your palate with the tip of your tongue
The problem is that if you don't train your tongue at a very early age, it will get used to the movements it does with your native language and adapting is hard, hence why people should learn foreign languages very early.

Tsunami is a japanese word with both "t" and "s" pronounced separately, not like C in Cao.
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>>180673029
>Tsar doesn't have the t sound.
I never said it did, I said that people often ignore the T in the TS sound

>Tsunami is a japanese word with both "t" and "s" pronounced separately, not like C in Cao.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_affricate#Voiceless_alveolar_sibilant_affricate

the difference between Cao and Tsunami is aspiration
Cao is aspirated, Tsunami is not

>if you don't train your tongue at a very early age...
and even then, there are people who can produce the correct sounds but cannot hear them
taking Japanese as an example with L/R distinction
even if they get the tongue movements right, there's no guarantee they will actually hear the difference
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The soul of the Mikawa warriors cannot be crushed!
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>10
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