/stsg/ - Starsector General

Diable isnt showing up in my nex game dont tell me I have to update them

>>180237668
why aren't you using version checker?

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>>180237821
Because I forgot it existed, plus I dont want to update Diable

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I think I found a good pandemonium build.

>>180238123
there was a problem with an older version of diable that was having the issue of its markets not showing up in nex sectors. you should update

>>180238429
>loadout purist

My negro. I only do it with Diable though, just because they're so fucking aesthetic.

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>>180238456
But what if the changes to Advanced Avionics make them suck

>>180238695
I really only do it because the best part about factions is getting to play with them thematically.
Not to mention DA hulls or weapons don't combine well with other hulls/weapons.

>>180238758
The changes to Advanced Avionics honestly aren't noticeable.

>>180238926
I gave up on Aesthetics a long time ago Having blue cannons on a red hull looks whack but the Devas are the closest I'll get to Lohengrin cannons.

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Dear god what have I created.

>>180239305
loadout?

>>180239305
Why do people get so proud of their gamebreaking cheatships?

That one fag that posts his 50 fighterbay, bunch of hardmounted overpowered guns, 50k shields, etc. is always posting about how tuff and cool and cool and tuff his ship is. Now, you're doing the same thing.

Guess what: a kite, modded with a 999999 dmg beam and a hullmod that gives unbreakable shields is going to mop the floor with your liddle ships, and would be just as 'ethical' as the ships you made.

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>>180239402
>Inb4 lvl 20 pilot

>>180239893
Uhhhh, what?
I don't know what you're talking about, but if it clarifies everything on that ship is entirely obtainable without doing actual cheats.
Unless you call shield bypass a cheat then I don't know what to tell ya.

>>180239901
thanks

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>>180239893

>>180240073
Would highly recommend sniper wanzers instead of the escorts, those are really just for help in frigate cleanup.

>>180239893
>reeee play how i want you to play

>>180240053
Oh, pardon me. I was under the impression that the ship you were using was a modded ship, not one from vanilla. If it wasn't in vanilla, after all, then what's to stop the maker from just overpowering the shit out of it?

>>180240172
Has nothing to do with playing. It has to do with being proud of nothing. Anyone can mod in an invincible ship. Don't come here posting like a hardass unless you use vanilla ships, since that's got at least a measure of quality control.

Any recommended /vg/ modlist? I played vanilla for like 4 days now and I think I need stuff to add more depth, more factions and an easier start.

Help a space nigga out please.

Anonymous 3 days ago No.179950185
Messy Portrait Pack: http://www.mediafire.com/file/i5fv2c6a68po3va/Messy+Portrait+Pack.zip
LoGH/Power Dolls: http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12292.0
Infinite Space: https://mega.nz/#!gzInCKRb!BFh9mq4eYxcZPNE0AHTtpiFvtTpTd3XWy9_lF8w9WFM
Portrait Pack: http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=10836.0
Degenerate: http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12493.0

>>180240593
Nothing like fucking up copying and pasting.

>>180240267
>double reeeee play how i want you to play since my way is the only way

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>>180240710

>>180240267
Ah ok, you just don't see anything done with any mod as an achievement at all, gotcha.
I'm gonna go back to playing with my refits now.

>>180240429
>more depth
Nex and Dynasector got ya covered. Not only that, but they also have differing starting options so you can get an easier start like you want.
Special mention goes to Ship/Weapon pack for the IBB bounties.

>more factions
Imperium, SRA, SCY, and Underworld are great additions that add plenty of flavorful ships without upsetting the vanilla balance too much.
If you want more flashy effects and ships there's also Templars, Blackrock, Outer Rim Alliance, and Diable. Those can upset balance a little though.
Avoid GKS and DME like the plague, Neutrino is kinda in the same boat as them but they do have flashy effects so risk it or don't.

>>180239901
>Pure Diable loadout.
For some reason I find that's actually less effective than hybrid loadouts.

anyone update the fighter chart?

>>180240781
>you just don't see anything done with any mod as an achievement at all

and neither should you, unless you think I'm just the bestest ever for wiping a max size templar fleet with my undamageable deathstar kite

>>180240779
>reeeee im losing the argument lets throw insults like some 12 year old playing cod

>>180240781
>Imperium
>without upsetting the vanilla balance
are you mad. Imperium basically shifts the vanilla game by itself. Just watch the AI try to handle siege fleets.

>>180239901
mod?

>>180240942
It's the Diable dreadnaught.

>>180240779
>>180240267
>>180239893
not ethical not ethical stop having fun my way is only right way

>Be scrub who started playing the game a couple days ago
>Get used to the sunder with its two mediums and a large with its system's bonus damage instakilling frigates
>Now the hammerhead feels like shit with two ballistic mediums and a bunch of missiles the AI likes to waste, and a system that sends you to flux cap in a second

Tell me there's something worthwhile about this ship

>>180240819
I actually think the scatterguns played a big part in defeating the station there, since no matter how wide the spread gets they've got to hit SOMETHING.
There's definitely more effective loadouts since I just slapped it together, but I'm pretty happy with the results.

>>180240938
>too much
But I get what you're saying, I don't really have too big a grasp on how the mods affect the game since well, I have a bunch of them in so its hard to determine whats broken and what isn't.

>>180240942
Diable Avionics
All of the missiles and none of the personnel.

Shit mods that might not even work.

Buffs some skills:
https://mega.nz/#!cyAxiSbb!WYUKYtj8FocCgAK5VFFdJY28KnzjEzVLCAg-L6Hsd7M
Removes burn penalty and most CR/fuel loss in storms:
https://mega.nz/#!kzRC1b6C!YIUk1dU9FIWYF5wl1oOUKssTnJcExKcd0QjO-JLdbhg

>>180240781
can u play Nex, Dynasector and Ship/weapon pack together?

>>180240660
the standard nex + ss+ and split mods set

I'm leading a hegemony fleet again hte most fortified planet of the imperium

>>180241386
Yes. Read the fucking mod threads on the forum before asking dumb questions.

>>180241386
All the major mods are entirely compatible with each other.
Just make sure your read up on them and look at what they require.

>>180240267
Most vanilla weapons and ships are objectively superior to what Diable offers, you're literally sperging out about something you know nothing about. Diable offers pretty ships and a very, very specific playstyle that can be countered easily.

>>180241115
The problem with the monstros tend to be the spread, and generally the only way to negate it is to close in. Under normal circumstances this isn't a problem for the Pandemonium, but unfortunately with how stupid the fleet AI can be, sometimes closing in can be fatal (where the rest of your fleet decides to merrily fuck off).

Because of its speed the Pandemonium generally tends to be the 3rd line in a direct engagement, but if you're in the habit of pre engagement reorganization the phase drives can easily bring the Pandemonium up to 1st line. The fighter wings help when it comes to engaging 1st line, but then Wanzers are good for defensive battles and not so much search and destroy. I still end up using sparks a lot of the time (leaving one wing of Wanzers for escort duty).

>>180241075
The Hammerhead is an early fleet anchor when you don't have anything else. It can serve an ok support role given the right weapons loadout, but falls behind later game. I don't normally stick to my hammerhead for long (I like Hayles and Calms too much) but it's not all bad.

>>180240781
>Avoid GKS and DME like the plague, Neutrino is kinda in the same boat as them but they do have flashy effects so risk it or don't.

lemme fix that for you

>Avoid Neutrino like the plague, any neutrino cruiser and capital is completely broken. Green Knight Security is kinda in the same boat as them but they don't have flashy effects so risk it or don't.

>DME is a nice mod

>>180240938
The Imperium is meant to be a military powerhouse. Individually their ships are well balanced beyond being massive damage sponges. It's just that they move so many resources and fleets any nex war with them ends up in imperium curbstomp

Compare it to Neutrino which fields response and detachments that number in the 40s and a single capital can solo an entire fleet and is just a powerful and invasion happy.

Economy wise the economy always goes that the pendulum swing of total scarcity and abundance because most mods have their capital have more resources than any vanilla market

>>180242057
Right. Even >>180240781 admits they aren't balanced.

Frankly doesn't matter if they are, either. If you want to play with a cheat/OP ship, fine: Just don't come on here with a "HEH HEH I'M GOOD" attitude when you can't/won't win with ships designed by the dev of the game.

Does removing faction files in ship mods break the mod?

>>180242057
Don't try reasoning with him. He's either baiting or doesn't understand that not every mod dev is Soren.
Either way it doesn't really matter. Who cares if there's one autist screeching about people happy with their mod ship loadouts, let them screech.
And regardless of the outcome is it really worth any sort of effort to try and sway a venomous anon to your side of the argument.

>>180242294
Imperium is a bit special in that regard because it's also got the proto-Prism Freeport system in Byzantium. That and Ex Vis together basically have several mods' worth of commodities, especially when Ex Vis undergoes production booms.

They're pretty much a powerhouse in every way that matters. You're not going to find another mod that pumps out the same volume of ships other than KT.

And honestly if you're going to compare it to Neutrino then you might as well go all the way and weight it against Red.

>>180242578
He probably is Soren, trying to stir shit up cause people think his mod is OP.

>>180242578
This condescending circlejerk right here is what will kill this community.

>>180242709
I doubt Soren is that assblasted of a developer, but that would be hilarious.

What if we had "FRIGATE" slots and even "DESTROYER" slots for cruisers/capitals respectively in the place where fighters go now.

>>180242818
>community
This thread has been on life support for a while now , and if anything it's the screeching about playing ethically that's going to kill interest.

>>180241075
safety override on everyone

>>180242309
You are so spectacularly and confidently incorrect, I've never seen such a display. I'm in awe, really, this is life changing.

>>180243163
>been on life support
That happens when you deride people who play the game that the dev made and instead use these threads as "play my mod, its got an OP ship" advertisements.

Brand new players aren't going to enjoy the game nor stick around if they listen to this thread, install bullshit ships, and their initial exposure to the game is ships with shield bypass, or 50 fighter bays, or whatever other shit you think makes Alex's game better. You think you're being all inclusive and open-minded by saying "just play like you want lol" when the message you're sending with
>Dear god what have I created.
is, play with mod ships that can solo redacted stations or be a weak noob.

>>180241075
Safety overrides with assault chainguns and dual light machineguns, fly up to any ship smaller than a capital and ruin its day.

>>180243554
Yep, so incorrect that you can't even address where I'm wrong.

You want to be the biggest dick in this dying thread by having a cool and tuff (tm) overpowered ship you modded in, well that's just fine. When you come on here bragging about it, you sound like a jackass.

>>180243328
>>180243656
But then why wouldn't I just use another SO ship like Sunders with triple phase/pulsar, assuming it even needs SO to be at least equally as good?

>>180243612
>play with mod ships that can solo redacted stations
I'd like to see you try to solo a redacted station with a Pandemonium. Really, try it. You'll die pretty quick even with a PD kit, and you'll be able to take down one arm if you're lucky. A Paragon will win over a Pandemonium in that race nine times out of ten.

>>180243829
He was just showing a cool screenshot, you autistic fuck.

what was the most efficient freighter?

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>>180243858
Simple anon.
You know what you do when you have SO?
You go ballistic.

>>180243829
You made no points though, that's the thing. There's nothing to refute, you didn't say anything to support your claim, so how do I refute it? You just said some bullshit, but were so wrong in the process that you didn't even realize it. You literally don't have a grasp on what you're saying, that's how wrong you are. We're reaching levels of incorrect that shouldn't even be possible.

>>180244152
Carlos you autistic little shit you get ejected

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>>180243829
Sorry kiddo, but I think I have the biggest dick in this thread.

>>180243858
Hammerhead has twice the armor and is way more flux efficient with accelerated ammo feeder, you'll win flux wars on account of the ballistics as opposed to energy. Large energy mounts are usually better off with long range stuff because they're hell on flux.

>>180244352
>Indian food
>biggest dick
right

>>180242637
I'm comparing to neutrino to give you an example of a balanced faction that's meant to be powerful with a broken faction that's powerful due to bad design

>>180243163
nah mate the ethical thing is a meme. we only have one guy ranting about something about things you do with mods not being achievements even when alex himself posts on mods threads and keeps tabs on most of them

you know, typical contrarian idiots that think anything they say can't possibly be wrong and egt upset if someone contradicts them

on the life support thing - this is not a permanent general. we are only as active as long as we can fuck around the updaes, but we don't ahve much to do so the general dies a natural death

In fact this update has brought in much more people than I remember compared to 7.2

>This is the sixth time we have created /stsg/ and we have become exceedingly efficient at it,

>>180244352
At least you didn't post a screenshot of you driving one through some wreckage while posting "FUCK YEAR / whos the best / say my name bitch" or something similar.

Like I said, I can just mod a kite to have a deathstar 99999 beam and 2M 360 shields and call it a day. I don't see any difference between being proud of (or bragging about) winning in that vs winning in any other modded ship.

>>180244352
That's kind of sad that even with all of that it still can't beat an Ophichius. It tried so hard.

>>180244352
>3.5 kilometers of weapons grade armor and nothing else

>>180244645
I should download RED and apply Extra SystemsTM 0.8.1a edition to it.
brb

>>180244909
Don't bother.
I think the last RED update removed the Opichius.

>>180244615
Imagine being this triggered over mods. Really can't relate.

>>180244528
I don't even know why that name is in the II namelist

>>180244984
Balls.

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>>180245036
>I don't even know why that name is in the II namelist
Wait that's NOT a custom name?
What the fuck DR.

>>180244987
But you could relate if I made a low-rez ship with 65k armor and infinite flux and felt proud of winning with it, right?

>>180244984
>removed the Ophichius
what really why. the Ophichius was the poster boy for OP.

>>180245250
Not really? I wouldn't give a shit. The game isn't difficult even if you play on vanilla. You literally have to slap handicaps on in order to make it hard.

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That's alot of debris

Why isn't there "Repairs armor at the cost of Flux" so you can armor tank

>>180245250
I'm not even that guy, man. And in the post you sperged out at, he was fighting another modded ship from an even more OP faction. I really meant it when I said you were so wrong it shouldn't even be possible. Just an unbelievably stupid individual, I'm surprised you even have the motor skills to turn on your computer, let alone type.

>>180245250
Except not even RED has a ship that stupid.
You're blowing the imbalance issues with mods out of proportion to the point where its not even realistic.
And THEN you're pretending that this shitty example proves your entire point.
Hint: It does not.

>>180245485
Because that would break the game with some ships.

>>180245550
So you're saying that if *I* mod in a ship like that, it's wrong, but if RED does it, it's okay.

See what I mean about you killing the community?

>>180245492
Go take a look at the upper left corner of that pic and tell me again how wrong I was about what he was proud of killing. For someone who bleats "wrong" like a sheep, you sure are good at being wrong yourself.

>>180245567
Just make it a high OP cost
thats how you balance things
like 50+ OP for a capital

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>not soloing literally the entire sector in one battle at one million battle size with this baby

>>180245647
Ah, yes, the vanilla Archbishop... He really should be ashamed of bullying such an underpowered, balanced, vanilla ship. Should we message Alex and let him know about this? We can't let him get away with this!

>>180245949
Sorry anon, that guy is still fucking retarded but he's talking about the image of him blowing up a remnant station. It's a bit below the one you're looking at.

>>180245947
>gets flanked and surrounded
>by the time it dies the domain has returned and reclaimed the sector

>>180246034
And? He practically died in the process, and plenty of vanilla capitals can solo remnant stations. Hell, I can do it in a Dominator.

>>180246083
>flanked and surrounded
>top speed of 10014

>>180246197
>Hell, I can do it in a Dominator.

A fully operational station will completely reck a dominator.

Only is they and the onslaught have is suicide ramming and arm and hoping the ensuing explosions takes out other parts

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>>180245647
>So you're saying that if *I* mod in a ship like that, it's wrong, but if RED does it, it's okay.
Of course not, in fact RED is a perfect example to prove otherwise you fucking retard.

Allow me to point out some facts since you seem to have a hard time with reading comprehension:
>There is a difference between overpowered and broken, they are two different extremes.
>An argument using one does not prove a point for the other.
>Both vanilla ship and mod ships have equal capacity to be either.
>Vanilla balance isn't perfect and shouldn't be treated as such. Neither is mod balance (remember unbalanced != broken, no half-assed argument for you)
>Most modders have a sense of decency not to make their ships mary sue tier powerful.
>Most modders also listen to their community for feedback to make sure their ships aren't reaching that point.
>Nobody wants to play a completely broken ship as it gets boring after the first few minutes.
>Therefore mods with completely broken ships and nothing else to offer tend to die out after a while.
>Templars does not fall under this category as their intention is to be a lategame challenge, so don't even try to make a red herring out of that.
>Regardless of your opinion on the matter, people are going to keep playing with mods and posting about their achievements with them.
>If you don't like it, you can either hide those posts or leave the general, I suggest the later.
>Your argument is nonexistent.
>Nobody is going to pretend that anything you're saying right now is actually an argument as long as you keep pulling extremes out of your ass and pretending that proves your entire point.
>I am going to bed, I suggest you do the same.
Night stsg, don't die before I wake up.

>>180246197
This comment shows just how out of touch you are with the vanilla content, and completely vindicates my suspicion that you rely entirely on mods.

>Hell, I can do it in a Dominator

As you were fond of saying of me, "You're wrong." Or you're lying.

The benchmark mission is comfy.

>>180246743
If you can't solo a station with any vanilla content, you're retarded. This has been established already but you seem the type who needs help retaining information.

I know I'm a worthless minority here but does anyone have a link to the latest Linux build?

>>180247581
http://fractalsoftworks.com/blog/

>swp 1.3.0
>Added new IBB (after Yamato and before Pope) with a Derelicts/Remnants fleet and extra-special flagship
Anyone have a shot of this flagship? mobile fag

why is combat so shit now im going back to 7.2

>>180248983
its gone to shit all these fag crying about muh difficulty so alex nerfed everything i went from over 3k armor in my xiv onslaught to not being able to get the armor over 2k

>>180248983
Look up the mod, Starsector FX, it's supposed to make combat effects less intensive but hasn't been recently updated. Use at your own risk

>>180249095
?
Why is my Onslaught at 2.4k armor then?

>>180249165
thats just for weaker computers not skill fixes

>>180249165
Avoid using it, and *anything* made by that mod author.

>>180249265
virus?

>>180249478
Hilariously incompetent mod maker, that fucks up every single thing he ever makes. Not a single thing he has ever created has EVER worked in a totally bug free, balanced, or polished manner.

Even more bizarre, is how oblivious he is to these problems.

>>180246227
If you're fighting every ship in one battle it won't matter, you will get flanked and surrounded thanks to the battle map being limited.

>>180249646
The weirdest thing is that his code is actually pretty decent, but for some reason he just don't care about polish and playtesting.

>>180249707
that doesn't matter when you are faster than lasers & projectiles lol

>>180249707
You can always just park your ass in the corner.

not like this

>>180255516
How then?

>>180256172
Not with a bang

What if starsector combat was more like Eve

Where you could shield tank, armor tank, and hull tank
Also could syphon flux buildup to other ships + send drones to repair one of your ships that is being focused

>>180259242
I like starsector just how it is thanks. Eve has have one of the worst communities in all of gaming thanks to its game design, if anything its a lesson in what not to do.

to syphon flux you would have to have another ship pull up and connect to yours during combat that really isn't something you want to be doing in this game.

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>>180259242

i spend too much time in spreadsheets already anon

>>180259792
>>180260748
Don't be scared of progress

>>180260748
when's Svullo the battleship gonna appear?

>>180261667

dude that's obviously a tanker

>>180261741
10/10 mod if that happens

Took me a while to discover that you just don't even get the option to salvage ships if you have a full fleet lol

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So how do you guys feel about the Outer Rim Alliance? They're a broadside meme faction with only energy mounts and a couple synergy ones. The weapons seem kind of underwhelming, and beam weapons cost extra for their ships.

>>180242294
>>>Avoid GKS and DME like the plague, Neutrino is kinda in the same boat as them but they do have flashy effects so risk it or don't.
>
>lemme fix that for you
>
>>Avoid Neutrino like the plague, any neutrino cruiser and capital is completely broken. Green Knight Security is kinda in the same boat as them but they don't have flashy effects so risk it or don't.
>
>>DME is a nice mod
[hon hon hon intensifies]

>>180242294
>Compare it to Neutrino which fields response and detachments that number in the 40s and a single capital can solo an entire fleet and is just a powerful and invasion happy.
Is there a setting to tweak it?
Have them field very few ships (cruisers are rare and capitals are a once-in-a-lifetime thing) and invade rarely?

>>180245485
TSA has a shield-substitute that reduces damage and repairs hull at the cost of hard flux.
Though their ship system buffs you temporarily and it's stronger the more flux you have

>>180265173

i mean i guess you could open ships.csv and just add another 0 in the fifth column

>>180265268
>ships

ship_data, even

>>180265268
>>180265323
What does it do exactly? I know jack squat about modding

>If it's not completely balanced then it's impossible to get any enjoyment out of it

You people are fucking cancerous.

>>180265389

that's the main value used by the game to estimate how powerful a ship is

>>180245427
Do tell us about what happened anon, it looks like there's a story to be told.

>>180265268
>>180265323
I found ship_data.csv, where do i find ship.csv?

>>180265602
Seems to be the aftermath of templars vs red

>>180265595
So, how does it translate in terms of rarity?
At which point "rare" becomes "will not appear, ever"?

>>180266081

dunno

if you want to be completely sure the ship won't spawn, remove it from the .faction file.

>>180266483
The thing is that i DON'T want ship NOT spawning.
I want them to be rare, not inexistent

>>180266531

see those numbers in the .faction? those are the weights that determine the fleet comps. adjust to taste

>>180264475
The art style really doesn't fit with the game well and for that reason, I'm out.

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I'm really glad they fixed the "In the heart of the system" bug that bullshit used to send me insane when the ship was this fucking far out.

>>180265431
this, if powerful mod factions didn't exist it would be impossible to get any enjoyment out of late game.

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really, now

Mod that adds "Frigate" and "Destroyer" bays/LPC's when?

>>180270503
transformers mod WHEN?

Mod that allows us to change ship systems like hullmods when?

Mod that allows ships to level up, gaining improved stats and selecting "upgrades" when?

>>180271689
>This on the living ships mods
>No officers allowed

I'd be down

>>180271689
wasn't there a mod that did this for 7.2?

>>180271689

http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=10578.0

It's outdated though. Hopefully it and Appro gets updated eventually.

Activation key?

>>180273239
>implying you need a key
JBE and WinRar are all you need

>>180273239
Yeah, your credit card
Support the dev you jewish lazy fuck

>>180273239
Don't be a dick if you like it buy it.

>>180275167
proud life long pirate

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>Catapulting dead Onslaughts across the battlefield

Aurora ram boats are fun as fuck

>>180273453
>>180275098
I will not pay 15+vat for a game i haven't tried shitdicks.

>>180277764
go to your sketchy ru sites, but support it. it's a nice game with a dev that talks

I still think Sustained burn is a mistake. It means that there is literally no downside to taking burn level 5-7 ships since you can easily recoup the burn levels lost unlike .72 and before where you would feel that low burn level every waking moment you weren't E-burning.

>>180278780

i like that having slow ships isn't as crippling and miserably

i hate that i have to micromanage my burn level all the fucking time now

>>180278780
Prior to sustained burn, cruiser/destroyer fleets were the main stray, but now you're able to use some of your more unique capitals instead of picking a select few just so have burn 8. Just my take

>>180270653
Combining ships mod when?

>>180279394
>tfw no frigates that can dock to battlecruisers so they can help the battlecruiser with flux management, but they become part of the ship with low frigate armor

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>>180282917
it hurts

Dut Dut Dut Dut Dut Dut Dut Dut
vvrRRRM
DutDutDutDutDutDutDutDutDutDut

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>>180265431
Fuck off. We are okay with some power creep, but not with blatant Mary-Sue factions that outright supplant the entire vanilla roster despite explicitly being a non-boss faction.

>>180282917
But why

>>180284739

fun detail: upgrading the large-mount arbs to mark9s would cost zero OP

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kills standard onslaughts just fine though, hammer barrages are fantastic

>>180279662
Why something that lame?
Have a hundred and one piss weak frigates show up and combine into a monstrosity that would make a RED meets DME meets KT superboss piss it's pants

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dom'd

>>180284405
which mods do this?

>>180286945

dme's entire arsenal is vanilla-gun-but-better

Why do salvage fleets keep picking on me? I just replaced my lost Condor with a Drover and the next system I visit a salvager fleet 5x my size steamrolls me just because I arrived at the same point as him.

>>180289670
When salvage is scarce, they like to make their own.

>>180289670
>Why do salvage fleets keep picking on me?
you always have to be very careful around salvage fleets when you're outside civilized space, many of them will turn pirate if they think they can take you on.

>>180290613
Ah. I was in system heading towards a station and they must have decided I looked at them funny.

I might have to start from scratch, I've made a little bit of money from bounties but I lose so much buying supplies and fuel I've barely progressed past what you leave with after the tutorial. Only real improvement was replacing the Condor with the Drover and I lost that in no time fast. Watching it send 2 squadrons of Piranhas with Reserves and spit a fuckton of dumb bombs over some poor bastard's bubba'd up freighter was a joy to behold.

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So you can solo remnant stations with vanilla loadouts, nearly did it with a max level pilot but I got lazy and used one. Gonna try with a non-phase ship next, felt like torpedo carriers would be the best but I can't get my damn bombers to cooperate.

>>180289670
If you have lots of (D) mods ships the salvage fleets will think you're just salvage

:^)

>>180292786
*without a max level pilot

>>180265431
>If it's not completely balanced
nice strawman

no ship is cuter than the robberfly

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>>180292786
Alright, solo'd it in a capital and barely took any hull damage, all vanilla loadout, didn't even need to use the reapers. That guy bitching about Diable of all mods is a fucking retard, end of discussion. Save your complaints for actual imba factions, like DME.

Does that Galatia mod stop vanilla music from playing?

>>180272769
Way back when 0.8 dropped some anon posted a version of this with the fighter code cut out. I can post one that should work with 0.8.1a if you guys want it. It's what was used in >>180244352

Friendly reminder the Gryphon is the most OP cruiser in the game

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>>180295686
>Dropped the pandemonium kill last night.
>Argued with "MUH ACHIEVEMENT" for a bit then went to bed.
>Get up.
>Go to work.
>People are still discussing this.
We know he's a retard, but can we talk about other stuff now?
I know the general's dying and needs all the help it can get but this has been going on for over half a day now.

To go on another topic, I'm at the critical mass in my current playthrough where I have several capitals and several million credits worth and things are beginning to get stale. Wat do?

>>180299674
if you're running nex start going after home planets for your own faction

>>180299674
Salvage only run

>>180299890
this but align with the luddic path

>>180295686
>outrange the station with a paragon
>same as "hurr I can win with a dominator"
kys

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>End up vs 2 moras
>It's alright I have an eagle, a heron with 2 talons, three sunders, and three lashers, all with PD
>Before I know it my eagle is at 1/10 hull and everything but my heron is dead
>See it has DA fighters because I just installed that mod
>Hits from triple heavy autocannons and pulse lasers couldn't kill them

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W-what is this doing here?

>>180302478

HIDE_IN_CODEX pls

I forgot what the max level would need to be if you or your officers could get all the skills, anyone know what it is?

>>180303029
96 I believe

>>180303029
Why can't you figure it out yourself again? It would take two minutes.

>>180303491
Because I'm a lazy retard

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>Save game after a bit.
>Mid-way through save progress the bar jumps back to "backing up save..."
>Doesn't move.
>Game's hung up.
>Relaunch the game which takes a minute due to mods.
>Go back into game from where I last left off before I saved.
>Do some shit again.
>Save game.
>"backing up save..."
What the fuck do I do to stop this shit.
And YES, I have plenty of RAM.

>>180305152
edit vmparams

>>180305191
For what? RAM allocation? Been there, done that, it can go up to 6GB.
The game didn't even show a sign of hanging up before it did.
You can't possibly be telling me RAM is the issue here.
Don't you know anything else that could be causing this?

>>180305353

check the logfile, i guess

>>180305827
Seems like it encountered an error it couldn't resolve and got stuck in a loop.
I don't know how to fix it, but thanks for the input.
Don't know why I didn't think to check the log earlier.

>>180292786
>double guardian pd on the sides
>double plasma cannon
my man

>>180300393
That guy was dumb too, I dunno what you want from me.

>>180300393
>outrange a station
>with anything, let alone plasma cannons

???

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>>180310758

i'm outrangin ur station. killing ur dudes.

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>>180310949
>zaps your missiles

tch... you'll have to try harder than that....

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>Getting swarmed by missiles and fighters
>Ballistic PD can't hit a single fucking thing
>The actual ability to not be a complete retard is blocked behind a skill either you have to dump skillpoints on or need an officer to be favored by RNG to get it
Please tell me there's a way to enable this by default on all ships. I don't even care if it makes my fighters fucking useless in return.

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ded

>>180314668
bls resbon

Yeah, RIP.

What is /stsg/'s opinion on the Scarab?

>still no Kingdom Hearts style AI-tuning

>>180327024
That's a mod that may be updated.

which file do i edit for mission frequency? im a literal retard and cant find it

>>180314668
what do you have issues with PD lol just put more flak on

>>180299397
If those medium missiles weren't aimed sideways I would appreciate the Gryphon more

Maybe I could put some imba as fuck mod missiles in those slots

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Nevermore or Nevermore-0?

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>>180327925
PLEASE RESPOND
>>180328868
I like the Nevermore more for dank shield overloads

Dragon fav ship all times though

>>180327925
Starsector, Starsector-core, data, config, Starsector settings, search the word missions. With that you can change market missions and bounties

Whats the ship with the highest flux dissipation & tankiest shields?
My Zenith has 2700 dissipation

>>180259792

EVE being designed as Sci-fi Second Life has nothing to do with the combat anon

???

>>180327903
what mod?

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>>180284405

That makes it impossible to enjoy because...? If you find an item overpowered you can just, you know, not use it. It still works as an enemy tool. Or you can limit yourself and not use every weapon slot. Or solo. Or run destroyers only.

Fuck, there are so many ways to balance the game by yourself, if feels like the only way you know how to play the game is by min-maxxing.

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Post underrated shipfus

>>180298770

Please do.

>>180330013
Forced asymmetric design is forced

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>>180330013
>trying to fly a broadside capital with my puny human brain

>>180330165
Fuck you, I love my Odyssey!

>>180330013
high tech ships GET OUT
this is a low tech only thread

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>>180330013
>citadel will never be updated
feels bad man

>>180330670
my fucking luddite

>Cathedral Hubship will never be a useful ship
>Or even able to be found to be used

>>180330891
it's useful but you need a massive fleet to justify using it

>>180264475
>their weapons feel underwhelming
Try the Invocation (large, 30 OP fuck you energy blaster). It might be rather flux inefficient, but fuck if it isn't satisfying to use. Makes a pretty good siege weapon also.

>>180330670
*Nídhöggr Lances ur armor*

I need some Aurora loadouts
I have no idea how to use this thing

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rip

>>180335163
Triple Heavy Blasters and Safety Overrides.

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What the hell that's broken as fuck

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>>180343492
>calling these weapon arcs poor
>it still has the same, amazingly fast omni shield the Tempest originally possessed
>advanced targeting core

>>180330891
I've salvaged one before, not bad, but for a station sized ship, the flux is underwhelming
>>180343492
Mod?

>>180343637
It would be less obviously fucked if those mediums were hardpoints.
Or at least had arcs that only covered thier respective sides and overlapped by a tiny amount at the front.

Two terminators is just a fucking joke on a frigate tho. If you want to sell that you'd need to turn the ship into a destroyer at least.
Actually.... That would probably work. Keep the exact same armament and layout, only give it a medusa-like support profile and handling.

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Huh.

>>180345963
Had to actually check my game files to see what mod it was from.
It's this one: http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12446.0

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>>180237164
>pirate game
>it says it knows and it will effect the rng

well fuck.

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Anyone know much about Nex mining? Is there any hull mods or skills that make it safer? or do I just need more ships?

>>180348168
It wouldn't be the first time a game pulls that one

>>180305353
I had issues running 4 and 4.5g ram, 3 seems to be the sweet spot.

>>180330297
Would rebinding wasd to awds make it easier?

>>180343492
>Yeah these stats are pretty good but nothing too crazy
>Advanced targeting core

Oh

>>180346139
energy hardpoints are hardly bad either

>>180353061
8 deployment cost I guess too
lol

Fucking modders and their "strictly better in every way is just fine, also has tons of flux and doubled range of energy weapons!"

>>180330809

UNITINU

>>180343492

lol double terminator drones

double lol that alex nerfed the term to uselessness so double terms is actually not a big deal

>>180354623
Idk, they're still pretty good to have

>>180354623
they dont cost OP and they do a shitton of damage

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Ever since figuring out how to properly use the Mimir, I've been completely spoiled by how mobile this fucking thing is, and can, as a result, no longer stand to pilot ships that can't hunt down the average frigate.

Can I cure my addiction?
Are there any alternatives that can give me the same fix?
I actually don't like the Aurora, nor the boss version.


>>180354623
>into uselessness
No, they got nerfed to a point where they will actually fucking die if used without thinking, and that's a good thing, since they can no longer solo a fucking destroyer. As someone who loves his Tempest, the nerf was needed, and definitely fair.

>>180354684
>>180354737

i just think the nerf was too big, they pop really easily now.

i'd rather have seen nerfing them half as much and increasing the deploymen cost of the tempest a bit, it's too cool to be only 6 points

>>180354937
OK? TEMPESTS WILL STILL RAPE ANY OTHER FRIGATE 1v1

Well
Other than the "2 TEMPESTS" nig

>>180354994

dude, chill

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>>180330013
>>180330165

who wins, the Ody & Ybo or yesösey?

>>180355193
Fighters are OP, Ody&Ybo easy

>>180355193
yesösey wins with sufficient PD and a good loadout

>>180353664
Which is only a handful of them fortunately.

>>180356987

i mean no one's gonna post "LOOK AT THIS FUCKING THING, IT'S REASONABLY BALANCED AND ONLY MODERATELY UGLY"

>>180357056
Actually "Balanced" is one of the biggest draws of many mods. And most of the Mary Sue factions are modders that couldn't take advice to save their life

>>180357951
>Actually "Balanced" is one of the biggest draws of many mods.

yeah but it doesn't spark much discussion

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>Plasma jetting up the front line
>Picking off frigates and forcing larger ships back
>Bomber wave comes in right overhead

Fuck I love this game

>>180358057
>>180357056
>>180357951
And many times these autists are so worried about "muh balance" that their mod gets forgoten because it is so shite and week. Do you ever here about poeple asking about when Exigency is gonna be updated? Nope!
And if someone mentions something that is even remotely out of their precious "balance"? NERF IT into the ground and then MAYBE slowly buff it. But don't fucking count on it

>>180358586

god damn you are butthurt

>>180358586
Unfair advantages are unethical

Also, modding isn't a popularity contest, it's about making the game more enjoyable.
Being able to treat battles like a somber sunday flight isn't very enjoyable.

>>180358958

>Unfair advantages are unethical

I guess you shouldn't pilot then and let your officers do all the work because you have a brain and they don't.

But I jest, I'm not the guy who posted before but people hamper on balance way too fucking much as if the game isn't easy to break with vanilla stuff.

>>180359779
Correct, I don't pilot

>>180359928

reminder that using custom fits is an unfair advantage

If standard fits weren't so fucking terrible then sure I'd use standard fits

>>180360783

same but tits

>>180360783
That's no excuse! The AI only has access to those terrible variants, so by using your own you are giving yourself an unethical advantage you fucking cunt

considering how often people fuck up their custom fits and come here bitching about terrible AI, maybe custom fits are really more of a voluntary handicap

>>180363076
thats BS ok bounties have tons good fits
Lots of terrible fits too, especially in IBB bounties
But lots of good fits

What if all weapons had a slider to reduce their damage/range in exchange for more flux efficiency
Same with shields, reduce their arc for more flux efficiency

>>180363537

weapons having different ranges is a good thing

>>180363802
no it isn't
They should all have the same range, just decreasing in damage done at different rates.
Projectile better at long range while lasers decreased down to 0 pretty fast.

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>>180363802
>>180363997
>this is a good thing
>no it isn't

>>180365196
>i stack hypervelocity drivers and I crush the AI's 5 flak cannon enforcers I'm so good XDXDXD

>>180365431

oh dear, it's retarded

>>180363997
So mechanically the same but with a shit ton of visual clutter and abysmal performances?

>>180365431
>needing to prove your skill in a moddable single player game

>start a tri-tachyon run
>already at the capital phase and tri-jews havent stocked a single Aurora or Tempest so far
At least now I appreciate the Apogee's crazy strong shields

>the RNG may know you are playing a pirated version

That was fun.

>>180370156

if you want tritach gear the by far easiest way to get their top end ships is to declare war on them

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Would a low-tech only run be fun or shit?

>>180371462
Do you like a shitton of dakka?

>>180371462
I've done it aligning myself with the Path and having underworld installed. Shit was fun for me at least but that could be because I was roleplaying someone who believed they were Ludd

>>180371462

perfectly viable.

i'd restrict myself to tier 1 weapons rather than 0, which gives you a pretty reasonable arsenal to work with

>>180371680
What ships are best for maximum dakka?

>>180372517

lasher, enforcer, dominator

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>>180245947
i honestly don't understand the difference between using this and just typing the nuke command into the console as soon as the battle starts

>>180373175

the kilocaesar creates more particle effects

>>180245947
>2341 OP
Filthy dumb modder scum

>>180375519
What do you expect from someone using Chinese mods? They LOVE their super OP Bullshit

>>180375519
>>180375849
The guy increased the originals stats of it, looks like it has 310 op usually

>>180376046
Yeah, through the Chinese made mod called Extra System. However it looks like he either A) Removed the limits, B) Supersized the boosts or C) The person that ported it over fucked with it as the last time I used it, it never got anywhere near that level of stupid

>>180375519
>>180376351

you better be trolling and not actually this retarded

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If I wanted to go ahead and make a portrait mod that replaced vanilla portraits for factions instead of just adding on top of them, how would I need to go through with it? I know how the other portrait mods work by using them as a base, but they just add rather than replace.

I want to keep it as a separate mod instead of manually replacing the vanilla portrait files and modifying the text lines involved just so that I can easily enable and disable it, too.

>>180377062

as long as the file path matches i think it just overrides np

should easy to test before you start any major work anyway

>>180372554
PUNISHER

>>180355193

please talk me out of implementing these two and actually trying it in practice

>>180358586
This is exactly the problem with the modding community for this game. Any ship, weapon, hullmod, fighter, etc. that fits with the dev's overall design is ignored in favor of ZOMG IM KILLING EVERYTHING overpowered marysue garbage. Nobody wants balanced ships because "uh, if I wanted to play with a cerberus I'd just play with the vanilla one XD" so they instead load up a mod with a superheavy ballkicker class ship and name it "PSSH NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID" as they throw onslaughts and paragons around the field and take no damage during the engagements.

PROTIP TO FAGGOTS THAT POST ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LOVE MODDED SHIPS: you are killing the modding community, because the only ships that get attention are the ones that are overpowered, causing all other modders to release only overpowered mods, causing alex to think the game is too hard and nerf the vanilla content.

YOU are ruining the game. You.

>>180377046
>uses massively OP stuff
>most likely used that chinese cheat mod or modified the files himself thus raping DR's creation
>has the gall to call others retarded

>>180379804
To play the devil's advocate, i'm ok with massively OP stuff, as long as it is clear that is a boss faction and that can be only beaten, let alone acquired by the player due to massive effort on his part (or being a lucky bastard and somehow get just the right combination of missions, trading and salvaging to obtain a obscenely powerful fleet very fast, see the "i just found a Paladin" posts)

>>180380420
You ever hear a single post saying, "Wow, this modded ship was really weak! I want to use that instead of the vanilla ships because I like a challenge!"

Fuck no you haven't.

It doesn't matter the rationale behind making the ship OP. Every modder who sees posts about Templar/RED/whatever totally OP shit of the day is, is going to think "wow, everybody loved that boss faction, so I'll make boss factions too! (I wanna be poplar!)" This then causes mods to up the ante, making ships more and more OP to keep up with the other modders, and around and around we go. Look at that Ophicshiticus bullshit, for evidence and proof. It doesn't matter how hard it is to obtain, it simply doesn't belong in the game. same as 95% of modded material.

Alex sees everyone posting boss factions, decides that "whelp, everybody wants a challenge" and then nerfs the shit out of the vanilla ships, making the disparity between the original and 'boss' faction even higher.

>>180379804
literally what mods fit this description besides templars and approlight? if you say DME I'm going to laugh at you because while they're powerful you can still beat them just fine with vanilla ships and weapons.

you can make (or play with) shit at whatever power level you damn well please.

i just think you should be both honest about what you're actually aiming for, and how close you are to hitting that point.

>>180377724
Tested it and it does, even if it's a female replacement for a male portrait. Problem is I'd need enough portraits to replace an entire faction, and the factions don't exclusively use their faction portraits (IE, Hegemony using some mercenary and normal portraits other than Hegemony portraits) so if I were to replace them it'd also possibly end up affecting other factions, to say nothing about neutrals.

If I could just find what defines what portraits are used at all I'd be able to skip the whole renaming override entirely, but I can't find anything like that.

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>>180376351
Got it in two. Since TRUTH ORIGINEM decided to include the source code with the mod it's easy to fuck around with it.

>>180381228
>the criteria for a ship being OP is whether you can beat them with vanilla ships

See this is exactly the shit I was talking about

>>180381228
>t. Soren
I can beat Templars with vanilla stuff though.
The difference is that while KT just scream "Yes, we are the overpowered boss faction, dare to challenge us?" DME tries to claim "we're totally balanced guize XDDDD don't mind the OP as fuck stuff XDDDD"

>>180381339

it's in data\world\factions

>>180381489
DME is an order of magnitude less powerful than the likes of templars/appro/red. he's at least trying to balance that mod with vanilla
>>180381491
the guy is in the process of rebalancing that mod, but as of now I would rate it as a bit more powerful than vanilla, but not boss faction tier

>>180381749
>he's at least trying to balance
no, he isn't. he's (you're) looking at vanilla, and tweaking the vanilla weapons, mods, and everything to be better for DME ships.

I don't even need to look any further than shield bypass to say you're full of shit.

>>180381869
>if you aren't upset about DME you're soren
get off it
>he's not trying to balance it
I've been reading the thread, its filled with nothing but rebalancing considerations
>shield bypass
what does that have to do with DME?

>>180381670
How do you think I found out what portraits Hegemony uses? Though to be specific I want to know if it's possible through the mod folder instead of altering the actual vanilla files, since I'd be able to do it just fine if I just deleted those lines involving the mercenary and normal portraits.

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>>180237164
This looks good and it seems to have mods.

How is the dev peace going?

Should I buy it?

>>180381869
Shield bypass isn't from DME

>>180382164
it's a great game, but because the dev is only a single guy the game has a very slow pace of being updated. worth the 15 bucks if you ask me

>>180382163
http://starsector.wikia.com/wiki/Mod_Info.json_Overview
>Replace
Nevermind, I'm fucking retarded.

>>180382110
>I've been reading the thread, its filled with nothing but rebalancing considerations
What drugs are you on exactly?

>>180355193
These ships, when
>>180365431
You do realize advanced countermeasures halves hvds usefulness

>>180382695

two guys

>>180383250
go in that thread right now and tell me what you see.

>>180383250

oh no it is. soren's putting a lot of effort into pretending that he want to make the mod balanced with vanilla.

>>180383662
>unintended effect
>graphical glitch
Meanwhile there is not even a passing aknowledgment of balance issues. Maybe because everyone that points it out is automatically a shared account for those cretins at 4chan

>>180383930
scroll up, retard.

>>180384084
Yes and how much you (yes, you, stop trying to hide it because it's painfully obvious) aknowledged of what it was said? Jack fucking shit.
You said you left 10 years ago? Please, leave for another 10 or 20 more.

>>180384359
you realize that you accusing me of being soren is just as autistic as him accusing people making balance suggestions of being a part of a "shared 4chan account"? I'm not upset over a mod because I realize that it exists outside of the game I paid for, and that modders are hobbyists not professionals. if the mod isn't balanced to your liking, do what I do and just don't use it.

>>180384537

you sure are upset about him not liking how soren balances his mod otoh.

>>180384537
>I'm not upset over a mod because I realize that it exists outside of the game I paid for,
>outside of the game i paid for
>the game i paid for
>game i paid for
>paid for
>paid
LOOK AT HIM!
LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH!

>>180384759
>paying for vidya
>paying for pre-release vidya

>>180384698
the thing I take issue with is how people in this thread seem to think modders are obligated to balance the mods exactly how they like, when really this is just somebody's pet project that they are deigning to share with others.

>>180384759
>yar har I pirated the game!
good for you

>>180384939
>deigning

lmao

>>180385034
great post, truly a worthy usage of gookmoot's bandwidth.

>>180385096
Still better than your damage control