/twg/ - Total War General

Remember that Christian retard who couldn't comprehend the concept of carbon dating?

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Rock the boat!

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I AM __________ AND _____________

>>180222831
Karl

Franz

I tried playing Empire again after almost a decade since I last tried it (ie when I bought it), but it's still pretty shit. The AI is awful, and the way difficulty is always created is by giving it unfair handicaps. Why the fuck do mughal peasants rout my cuirassiers after a charge that kills half their unit and loses no horses? How can inferior musketeers have more accuracy than guards?

Does anyone still play Shogun 2? I'd like to get into it, a multiplayer campaign sounds nice.

>>180223268
I mean you can always get into attila. people here seem to get into it way more. than shogun. though I don't play shogun 2 so idk. Maybe the multiplayer has the most people playing it.

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>>180221570
Not everytime it seems. Though it ruffles my autism to make a separatist faction into a puppet state.

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>>180222554
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION

>>180223771
I would accept this if the general was a doom bull

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>>180222831
CHIVALROUS

HIGH KING

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>>180222831
ASININE

MORTAL

>>180222792
Remember that history grognard who couldn't comprehend the concept of monstrous units? Yeah, bet he got BTFO'd by the announcement of NO NEW HISTORICAL CONTENT UNTIL 2018!

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>>180223771
I'll raise you

>>180223482
I'd rather not buy anything. I have an account with Empire that was bought in 2009, a friend gave me Shogun II and I was a beta tester for Rome II so I got it for free.

These are the games I'd rather play. Buying games these days is just an elaborate fleece, I was unfortunate enough that my first TW game was also the first where they tried to use the cancer that is DLCs.

I'm really trying hard to like Empire, but you're right. I'll take a look and possibly get Attila, multiplayer could make it worth it.

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>>180222831
Handsome and fuckable

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>>180224124
100% ASININE

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>>180224070
CHIVALROUS

PHOENIX KING

>>180224106
I do, yeah. I like these games for their gameplay, I don't know why people have such a bug up their ass that a fantasy game got made, it's a good fit.

>>180224375
their are people who don't like it because it has major problems. their are also people who don't like it because they just hate fantasy

>>180224713
> it has major problems

Honest question: What are those?

Overall Warhammer is the least problem-riddled game in the Total War series I can think of besides maybe Shogun II.

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>>180224375
As a hisfag i don't really mind Warhammer. I just wish it wasn't as dumbed down as it is. I imagine the "hardcore" complainers are the same people that liked to argue about undearm vs overarm hoplites in the past.

>>180224713
>who don't like it because it has major problems.
I didn't say the game was perfect, I'm talking about the people complaining about the concept of a fantasy Total War game.

This guy >>180224979 is not someone I'm referring to, in fact I agree with him that I wish the game wasn't as dumbed down as it is.

>>180224964
look at the past thread near the end.
or better yet look at the replies to this post >>180216802

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I guess there's no Varg candidate

>>180225104
ah okay then. sorry about that. I also agree with that.

>>180225314
This list should be cleaned up by omitting all of the god-specific LL's.

Been out of the loop, has Warhammer 2 had anything interesting announced or has it just been "hey it exists, there are lizard people"?

>>180225748
plz no bully https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/6f4njh/compilation_of_all_tww2_new_information/

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I don't understand Shogun 2. It was really fun playing through my first Takeda campaign, but because it was so conflict heavy all I really got to play with were samurai & some pretty pointless cav before it was over.

Now I'm trying Shimazu because I want to play with guns but all I'm doing literally nothing every single turn whilst I wait for the tech and it feels stupid as shit. Like I have the power to take the whole of Japan and win straight away, but instead I'm just sitting on my arse until I have fun gun units even though I'll be getting them way later then they were about in history.

I took this screen shot a few turns ago and I'm currently on 127,000 gold with nothing to spend it on. Really feels like I should have access to a way of boosting tech speed with money.

>>180225829
I'm not really going to complain about having everything in one place, even if I don't care for that place. Unless it was a "news" site.

Dumb question, from what I'm reading, there will only be 4 new factions and those are Lizard/High Elf/Dark Elf/not announced?

And there will be another new faction for Warhammer 1 as pre-order DLC? Which I find odd, since this is being sold as a stand alone game, so if you wouldn't be able to use pre-order DLC unless you own Warhammer 1?

And Skaven are not mentioned anywhere, except on the logo there are runes? So they're the likely runners for the fourth race?

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Rate my hard Satsuma Republic Stats
Not bad for my second FotS campaign
Going Republic fucking sucks

QUICK

1. Favorite Total War Unit
2. Favorite Total War Title
3. Favorite Total War Faction
4. Favorite Total War Color scheme
5. Favorite Total War Mechanic you want back in the next games

Something to keep us entertained here!

>>180226606
>Iceni Chariots
>Total War: Attila
>The Empire of Sigmar
>Carcassone
>Siege battles that have multiple gates and siege objectives

>>180226606
1. dismounted noble knights
2. Total War: Medieval 2
3. Dwarfs
4. blue???
5. idk

>>180226492
During the E3 streams the CA guys were openly calling Skaven an urban legend. They're in, but we've no idea how long they'll put this facade up.

>>180226606
1. Yari Ashigaru
2. Warhammer
3. Milan
4. Byzantine Purple
5. Nothing really stands out that isn't already there

>>180226606
1. MARAUDER HORSEMEN!
2. BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION!
3. NORSCA
4. BLACK AND RED
5. 6 SLOTS TO A SETTLEMENT, asinine mortal

>>180226953
I just hope they're not the pre-order race, Chaos was so fucking lacking I still can't believe it.

>>180222194
>I hope you're not christian

I am

>>180226606
>Dismounted feudal knights
>Medieval 2
>Med2 England
>Black and gold: HRE, Aizu, Chosu
>Provincial buildings, ala Empire/Shogun2

>>180226859
>Demigryph Knights
>Depends on how I'm feeling
>England
>Roman Red
>Population, among others that they keep removing for some reason

>>180227049
Do you understand carbon dating?

>>180226606
>FRANZ
>FRANZ
>FRANZ
>FRANZ
>FRAAAAAAAAAANZ

>>180227226
meant for >>180226606 obviously

Remember that guy who came on his mom's pillow and his dad told him if he were to die or otherwise be gone he wanted him to fuck his own mother because it would be loving?

Anyone have that saved?

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>>180227457
dude.... this is not total war related

>>180227779
It is /twg/ related.

>>180226606
>Royal Marines (FoTS)
>Empire
>WRE
>British red
>Region trading, or possibly city view

>>180227838
really makes you think

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The year is 246 BC, or 507 AVC. A season past, the great statesman and general Lucius Aemilius Papus, responsible for the protection of Italia, annexation of Sicily and Carthage, and several times Consul of the Republic, has died a natural death at the ripe old age of 70. Despite dozens of decisive military victories, Rome finds itself in a dire position. To the north, the Gaulish barbarians of the Boii and Arverni push against the Alps in the province of Insubria, with few legions to dedicate to her defense, Roma has befriended the neighbouring Hellenic Massalians. To the West, despite the humiliating loss of their capital, or "Qart Hadasht" in their sickening language, the vile Punics maintain a firm grip on most of Hispania, either through direct control or Spaniard tributaries. With immense wealth collected from their many remaining sea ports, they continue to maintain great hordes of uncivilized, beast like men to populate their armies. In the sprawling deserts of southern Africa, there exist several semi-nomadic tribes, undoubtedly bribed by Punics to wage war against us. Before his death, Q. Aemilius Papus managed to establish a vassal desert tribe in the provincial capitol of Capsa, men more than capable of fighting and guiding us through the seemingly never ending dunes. To the East, the Epirotes stand as a friend and trade partner, though they have been reluctant in establishing a fully fledged alliance, perhaps due to the sheer number of Rome's enemies. Indeed, the Pharaonic Alexandrian Ptolemaioi, with their numberless charioteers, had joined the Punics in their feeble attempt to stop us from claiming what should be ours. The most influential man in the republic, Marcus Aemilius Bibaculus, son of the great Quintus Aemilius Papus, is looked upon by all. Some believe he will live to surpass the magnificence of his father, while others fear that he will bring about their utter destruction. Rome must, and will remain unconquered.

Do the Skaeling or Bjornlings have any memes, or is it just Surtha Ek forever?

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What's their names again?

>>180228592
l*zards

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>>180228420
Since Surtha Ek is the Varg leader, and Felman Ingersson is the Skaeling leader, and those are the two Norscan factions unless you play as Chaos, they both share the same stock of memes. Nothing aside from what you're asking though.

>>180228592
HOLA SKEENKS

>>180224124
Trolls in that pic always look like their dang doodle noodle is flopping around.

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>>180228258
A season has passed, and the enemies of Rome begin to pounce. A Punic fleet "graces" Sardinia with their presence, though it is not known whether or not they will begin a full scale invasion. As the 1st Legion retreats from the seaside town of Thapsos to replenish their numbers in Sicily, a tribal army enters the province, surely with the intent to recapture Carthage for their Punic overlords. The 3rd Legion, currently stationed in Carthage will destroy them utterly, pathetic fortifications or not.

>>180228420
Bjornlings die, Skaeling is just Surtha Ek's twin brother that no one notices or mistakes for Surtha Ek. The only thing meme worthy about Bjornlings is that they might get away with razing one or two settlements before a greenskin or dwarf player manages to take notice and when that happens they get their asshole fisted, like if Vlad the impaler skewered someone but started at their mouth and used his fist instead of a sharp stick.

>>180227323
yes

I don't understand this meme however

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>>180226606
1. Warrior Monks
2. Shogun 2 / Attila / Medieval 2
3. Republic of Venice
4. Red
5. Trade resources that actually matter i.e. you can't build certain buildings without the resource.

>>180228592
Po'r Faevr and Mricoan

>>180229415
>i.e. you can't build certain buildings without the resource

But this is in Attila, or do you mean they removed it in Warhammer?

>>180229412
A while back there was a christian poster who would try to start theological arguments.

>>180229551
>removed it
I don't understand this reasoning

>>180229551
Warhammer still has resources but i don't recall ever needing them for any buildings or units.

It's a real shame that the campaign map element in warhammer are so neutered, it's a great game otherwise.

>>180226492
the DLC will be available on the combined map campaign which you'll have access to if you have warhammer 2. you just wont have access to tww1 races, so by preordering without tww1 you'll have at least one race in the old world.

>>180230550
gotta agree desu. I hope they fix this for the third game

>>180230550
The problem is that they had no obvious way of making it more warhammery. Resources for unit construction, roads and sanitation would not have served a purpose within the setting, but they are rethinking the campaign map, as we have witnessed from the new reveals.

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>>180229130
As if there was any doubt, Rome is victorious. The man behind the victory is Lucius Calpernius, a praetor, but plebeian general and former friend to Quintus Aemilius Papus. This victory has cemented him as a hero to the plebeians, and even the Senators look upon him with admiration. We must hope that this is their last force, so that our puppet Garamantian tribe might annex them.

>>180227042
IT'S NORSCANS

WE ALREADY KNOW IT'S NORSCANS

>Chaos mechanics were lacking

WE KNOW, THAT'S WHY THE NORSCAN DLC WILL HAVE AN FLC THAT HELPS FIX CHAOS

>>180230826
>third game is about daemons
>daemons will spend a lot of time on food production and building toilets

>>180231660
>Resources for unit construction, roads and sanitation would not have served a purpose within the setting,
they could've worked but not for all factions

>>180232063
Why are you freaking out? Did your boyfriend cum in your eye while you were reading my post or something?

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>they are getting to t3 doomstacks
>attila still hasn't spawned

fug

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should I make another attempt at otomo legendary?

>>180232430
Yes.

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>>180232428
Pay them to attack the Sassy kids.

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To the north, a Boii raiding party appears, consisting of nothing more than a couple hundred men with sharp sticks. I quickly send out the 2nd Legion, stationed in and around Italia for her protection, but the barbarians run like the cowards they are.

>>180232804
Well that would require me to be at war with the shahahhaahahshashahanhahashhansaha and that would be a terrible idea

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>>180232190
Don't demons require either massive chaos corruption or a very well supported infrastructure of sacrifice and prayer or they just phase out?

I seem to recall (I know it's 40k) but in the first siege of Armageddon the chaos dude leading it (Angron?) Had to stop and build loads of temples and stuff or all his demon forces would melt.

Also nurgle demons would probably have something interesting to say about sanitation.

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>>180232665
I hope I'm not as awful anymore

I'm genuinely extremely excited for TW 2 but part of me wants to hold off buying it for a week after release so that some of the quality of life mods are released/updated.
Another part says a month so SFO will have caught up.
Another part says just wait until after the first couple DLC
And the rest of me says preorder the big box with the cool globe thing.

Which bit of me is right/twg/?

Is it actually possible to destroy the Huns before or during Attila's reign?

>>180233983
I would assume now that people know what kind of small mods are popular some of the more basic stuff like more skill points will be available pretty soon after release. Its always worth it to go through a couple of vanilla playthroughs just to see what mechanics you want to mod/change, especially since we will be seeing new stuff like the web/vortex stuff

>>180226606
1. Mounted yeomen Archers
2. Total war Warhammer
3. Bretonnia
4. Red
5. Railroads.

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>>180233983
you know what part is right

>>180233325
It would also be radical if they made it so that the forces of the four gods would turn irrevocably hostile towards each other once they'd achieved a major campaign goal (like razing Praag/Kislev/Middenheim)

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>>180232428
this is the current state of the limes in pannonia - in addition to these garrisons there are stacks in both of the towns as well. I'm currently researching the tech to unlock t4 walled minor settlements, and will be building those there as well. Not sure about upgrading to the final garrison chain tier, as they are really fucking expensive and only add saggitari.

The weak spots in the limes are noricum and dalmatia, as noricum is still getting taxed and thus has to balance out its defenses w/ their food costs unlike the other provinces, and I've left dalmatia somewhat un-upgraded since the Huns haven't been pressuring it like I thought they would

>>180234653
I must admit I'm extremely tempted by this.

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hey guys check out this cool sphere thing i found

it was just lying in that tomb we saw the hooded guys sneak out of

think it's worth anything?

how do i beat the empire campaign on very hard difficulty???

>>180226606
So I've been away for a few months, what's the word on the new historical title?

>>180235997
none

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>>180235997
its china

>>180235997
Half of /twg/ doesn't care and the other half are still waddling round in circles screaming.

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>>180236071
You mad riceboi?

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has anyone checked out the Imperium mod for Attila? it's pretty fun, I've been playing as the Gutes

>>180236702
Is that the one with the meme-helmeted greeks? What else does it add?

>>180236071
What time period? Warring states? Three kingdoms? Ming China? Qing during the opium wars? Can we colonize Madagascar and build treasure fleets to conquer Europe?

>>180236684
>riceboi

hey, we're not on /v/ right now

>>180236931
Is it a /v/ meme? I thought I was being clever.

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Man I swear for all that I love in Attila, I HATE skirmishers. For christ's sake look at all the kills they got with them.
I hate them because they are stupidly effective to the AI but whenever I try to use them they utterly suck.

>>180236797
it splits both the western and eastern roman empires into multiple factions so they're more difficult to fight (or easier to play as). it also adds the war weariness from AoC, a few factions and a lot of different units. perfect for me since I really burned through the vanilla campaigns

>>180237053
levis are deceptively good, and you need to shut down skirmishers really fast as they typically have good rof

>>180237121
Sounds alright actually, but whats with le ebin spartans

>>180236083
Actually this pretty much describes this general on a daily basis.

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>be Imperial Swordsman
>see lone Chaos Marauder on the field
>he shouts his name
>pic related
Would you run, /twg/?

>>180237339
>no chariots
Nothing to fear.

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>>180236836
think closer to the end times

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>>180236046
>warham 2 announced
>no words on new historical title

I thought that anon ranting about CA dropping historical games as their main series was retarded because warhams isn't their IP but FUCK ME

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>180237012
No, I mean that everyone who goes on /v/ is a riceboi

>>180237934
Not true, I know an English bloke who goes on /v/

>>180237225
lol yeah they're probably my least favorite part of the mod. two "spartan" factions with dumb helmets

>>180226606
1. General/King bodyguard
2. Attila or Rome 2 with attila features retrofitted
3. Pergamon
4. White
5. Group battle animations rather than cinematic ones

>>180237856
Warhamster is a far more interesting and varied IP than the periods of history which haven't been covered and there's only so many times Rome can be rebooted.

I'd much rather watch PRINCE AND EMPEROR ride an angry murder pigeon into a unit of green midgets while somewhere else a bugger green lunatic does a dance to cast a spell that means their god appears and stamps on someone his doesn't like.

To me this is far more exciting that a dozen different variations of pikemen.

I know this is subjective, but it's how I feel. Warhammer has also produced far more fun memes than all previous titles put together

Also histautism is hilarious.

>>180238215
>Rome 2 with attila features retrofitted

Let's hope CA gives us something of the sort with their "large campaign pack"

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>>180234810
HERE

WE

GO

>>180234810
Are you playing with any mods?

>>180235997
We have absolutely no fucking idea

The only thing we do know is its not a period done before and its got a lot of 'characters' with 'interesting interactions' with each other

Smart people are saying Renaissance
Shitposters are saying China

>>180239000
>Renaissance

Can't wait for CA to fuck up pike and shot.

>>180235949
>turn 1 move SE, recruit 3 swords
>turn 2 take town, recruit 3 swords
>turn 3 move west, recruit 3 swords
>turn 4 move west, recruit 3 swords
>turn 5 take next town, finish 20 stack
>turn 6 take final town
>turn 7 to ? build up province until its maxed

Not a shitpost, this entirely works on legendary. Sitting on your ass pays dividends.

>>180239126
If they dont update the combat in any way its going to be utter shit for sure

They need to start adding in new features, particularly if its Renaissance. Like the ability for units to stand in lanes so other units can walk thorough them

>>180232208
well, how about Lizardmen needing their spawning pools (natural resources) to create higher-tier recruitment facility?
Dark Elves and HE won't have anything though duh

>>180233983
I dont think modders are going to bother touching the W2 campaign much

Most will focus on the Grand campaign when that comes out a month later

I hope someone can retrofit the AI victory conditions for the Grand campaign. A challenge in a TW game for once would be great.

>>180239274
They should really just introduce a mixed unit mechanic, so for example a pike unit with gunners mixed in.

>>180239425
Dont think the AI could handle that

>>180239685
Probably not, though I can always dream.

>>180239685
How old is the engine we're using? Is this a new one from Shogun 2? Maybe Pike & Shot will be delayed until after TWW3 and TWChina for a new engine reveal?

>>180240342
>TWChina

Nice meme, shitlord

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>>180238647
State of the Empire as of 420AD

The upgrading of the limes in Pannonia is now complete, and if the huns try to begin their assault their they will be faced with maxed out garrisons and walled minor settlements. Attila isn't king right now for whatever reason, only the faction heir, but I have already "assassinated" him once with my best spy (red x on map). Hopefully it counts towards knocking down his life total. I have 6 armies in the immediate area prepared for the huns, and I am ready for them.

Honorious is now governing Carthaginensis, as its old governor went blind and he needed to gain influence, which he wasn't getting as a general now that rebellions are less common than they were. He did get the Diplomatic Tone trait (+20% income from trade tariffs), so he isn't completely shit.

In Britain I think I have finally dealt the back-breaking blow to the jutes - a while ago they decided to ditch their province and become a horde, and they sailed all the way to caledonia and tried to siege eboracum from the north, and were beaten when Sextus Perennis reinforced the city from the south. Sextus is the only general I've had get all the way to the Vir Illustrius trait, and is the sole reason why Britain is still in roman hands. Depending on how well the situation with the Huns is handled in the east, he may end up leading an expedition to remove the blue swedes up north and end the threat to Roman Britain once and for all.

>>180238917
yeah, but nothing too major

What is interesting about Chinese warfare anyway? How is it unique?
In my extremely limited knowledge the only thing interesting I can think of is the fact that there's bloody millions of them and that they were the first to use the idea of total war.

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>>180240576
battle against the jutes at eboracum

>>180238291
That sounds completely ridiculous, how can anyone take that shit seriously? Might be good for a light hearted laugh but honestly I'd like total war to go back to its roots.

>>180240576
>nothing too major

Which ones?

>>180240540
t. Sayl the Faithless

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>>180240637
>muh raketenwerfer
>muh low power automatic crossbow
>muh formations

>>180240832
t. Chink the rice eating chink

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Well they finally cracked Warhammer.

>>180241007
Good, CA doesn't deserve money for their fantasy titles.

>>180240773
>change capital to rome
>standardize spread of stationary/mobile testudo and shield wall throughout roman inf
>changes to office system to make them more like AoC

those are the big ones

>>180240637
Depending on the era there's a lot of scope for variety in both geography and units. There's a ton of different cultures in pre-modern China and the influences of Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism and even Christianty and Islam could be amazing if it was implemented properly. It was easily as diverse as medieval Europe.

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>>180241067
>changing the game just to make it unhistorical

I wouldn't even mind if you had like radious or whatever shit, at least it changes gameplay but fuck

>>180241007
Again.
I give it a few weeks

>>180241201
>variety
one (1) race
>cultures
irrelevant
>religion
build churches for x modifier for province which affects unrest... wow sounds fun and original
>medieval europe
>diverse

>>180241385
Good job making gameplay sound simple. You want a trophy?

>>180241385
>medieval europe
>diverse

Yes? Are you retarded or something?

>>180241451
>check m2 roster for european factions

>KNIGHTS
>CROSSBOWMEN
>KNIGHTS WITHOUT HORSES

wow... so much variety... they have different colors on them.........

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>>180241228
>changing the capital to the cultural heart of the empire triggers (you) more than Armored Limetani Axemen

Have I just been baited?

>>180241046
t. butthurt histfag

>>180241228
The advisor even tells you in the intro that Rome has been neglected, they might as well say that you should move your capital back to Rome. Only problem is that CA hasn't included a "move capital" feature for ages.

>>180241542
almost like.......... real life............ woah.................

>>180241559
Historically after Constantine moved the capital to Constantinople the relevance of Rome declined. There's many practical reasons why the newer capital cities are further up north. It just wouldn't make sense for the capital to be Rome anymore.

>>180241542
The layout of the provinces and cities on the campaign map in Medieval is a whole other story of failure. Seriously, it's a disgrace and the reason why I will never touch and Medieval title, or Attila, with a ten foot pole. As a Slovene, I feel personally insulted that Ptuj was given to Croatia in the Charley Man campaign.

>>180241703
>wow, rome sure has gone to shit! I guess it's time to give up our capital city and move to shithole rome!

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Captured every human territory to my knowledge, all that remains is me, dwarfs, Varg, and a single horde of orcs. What do?

>>180241542
Ah, so you are retarded. Good to know.

>>180241832
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that the capital of the Western Roman Empire was Constantinople you perfidious, traitorous, persian cum gargling greek

>>180242078
Wipe out the norscan shits and go colonize Kislev and the remaining border princes.

>>180241782
Exactly, that's why histfag games will fail and fantasy is the way forward. I'd like CA to make their own original fantasy setting.

>>180242301
The Roman empire was still regarded as one entity you dumb fuck.

>>180242324

Shit bait, try harder next time

>>180242301
I wasn't aware that the capital of the WRE was Rome either.

>>180242561
>everything I don’t like is bait

Refute me you delusional histfag. Tell me how histfag games can be more interesting than fantasy.

>>180242681
>he cant

My name's /twg/, and the only thing I hate more than Total War games is __________________

>>180242954
History meatballs xD

>>180242954
Fantasy Total War games

>>180242565
>the capital of roman empire should be some barbarian founded shithole in the north or some emperor's vanity project instead of the cultural birthplace of the empire and its namesake

>>180241228
out of all the possible mods someone could be using in an wre campaign, that is by far the most retarded one to sperg out over.

>>180243369
hey, man, Ravenna wasn't a vanity project, it was a deliberate breeding grounds for malaria

>>180243369
>we should put symbolism that nobody cares about ahead of more practical concerns

>>180242954
/twg/

Would you ever get a Total War related tattoo?

>>180243820
>moving the capital closer to the enemies threatening your border because you are too lazy to campaign and politk in 2 separate places
>moving the capital to a city you named after yourself
>moving the capital to a swampy shithole that has fallen multiple times in the past because you think its defensible
>practical concerns

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>>180242954
>>180243137
>>180243187
>>180244170

And that's a wrap. Good job guys.

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What the fuck is EB2

>Your wages is literally 4 times your income
>Every village and town has nearly a full stack
>You start with at the least 2 and a half stacks at most 3 and a couple of units

What the fuck

>>180244421
Moving the capital closer to the frontier is exactly what a non lazy emperor would do you fucking idiot. A lazy emperor would've sat on his ass in rome whilst his military commanders up north plot his demise. There's no practical reason why Rome should be the capital.

>>180244405
I would never, under any circumstances, get a gaming tattoo.

You know that's really fucked up that "gamers" actually have tattoos like this.

You don't see movie buffs getting Star Wars tattoos, or trekkies getting tattoos of Admiral Ackbar.

Tattoos are supposed to have meaning.

When I was in the army, I didn't even think about getting a tattoo until near the end of my deployment. I've seen and done some horrible things in my life so when I came back to the states I did a lot of volunteer work which prompted me to get two tattoos of the words "angel" and "devil" in chinese on my left and right wrists so that I can remind myself that I am capable of doing both good and bad things.

10 years from now I'll look at my wrists and still have profound thoughts of what went through my mind the day I decided to get these tattoos but the idiots who got them because they like videogames will only see an outdated, obsolete franchise.

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>>180245236
>You don't see movie buffs getting Star Wars tattoos, or trekkies getting tattoos of Admiral Ackbar.
I highly doubt that

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>>180245236
r8 my tats

>>180245236
upvoted

>>180245236
>''idiot''
>''retard''

>>180245383
Did they not realize that that tattoo wouldn't work within a couple years of whenever they got it?

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>>180245236
>in """"""chinese""""""

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>>180245236
>in chinese

>>180245236

are you chinese?

>>180245645
it's pasta

>>180245236

>angel and devil

you are so fucking cheesy

>>180244405
Despite not having any ancestry vaugely related to Rome, I've got a SPQR tattoo simply because it looks cool. I've also got a qhi rho with the alpha in it changed to a lambda. I've also got various ww2 german and japanese unit tattoos (with my own added touch) on my arms. I like to show people that not only am I a history buff but I'm also unique.

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>>180245645
No.

>>180245718
Nah.

>>180241228
>>180241559
>>180241703
>>180241832
>>180241987
>>180242301
>>180242450
>>180242565
>>180243369
>>180243752
>>180243820
>>180244421
>>180245202
>everybody forgetting the most important aspect of this argument

Its "Aaaahhh, Rome" not "Aaaahhh, Mediolanum" or "Aaaahhh, Constantinopolis"

>>180246625
It's Istanbul, not Constantinopolis.

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>>180246546
Timestamp or you're fake and gay

>>180246625
The byzantines would call themselves Romans long after the collapse of the western empire. It has nothing to do with the city.

>>180246820
Guaranteed replies

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>>180246625
You sound like an Urk

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>only ever declared war on the WRE
>never raided or did anything hostile to literally anybody else
>coalition of 4 different factions trying to simultaneously wipe me out

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>>180240675
TESTUDO

>>180247034
KANNNEEEEDA

Who are the most informative and least (obnoxious) autistic TW players to watch?

>>180247129
Turin for WH MP stuff

>>180246974
Hush dear, the adults will understand the post. It's past your bed time.

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>Attila still crashes after every single manual battle

I have completely given up on this game now.

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Bellum Crucis or Stainless Steel

>>180247129
PartyElite
>>180247312
works on my machine

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The Eternal City

This is a long shot but; does anyone know what the modding diplomacy tables are for TWW?

>>180246546
My chinese isn't every good but on your left hand it says ping deng (平 等 equality). Angel would be tian shi (天使). I can't read what's on your right but it's definitely not devil. I don’t even think the chinese have a word for devil. The closest I could think would be yao guai (妖怪) which means monster.

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>>180247034
I've got you now you son of a bitch

>>180247029

Yeah, that's my experience with Rome in rome 2 too with some mods that say they retrofit attila diplomacy and campaign AI

>mfw war against massilia, liguria, veneti, all of illyria, epirus, macedonia, arverni, raeki, carthago, macedon, helvetti, etc

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>>180247623
>spend a fuckton of money upgrading pannonia to monstrous walled garrisoned settlements
>huns just ignore it and attack from a different spot

I wanted at least one epic walled siege battle damnit

I might start a WRE campaign in Attila. I was told I should consolidate all my forces then start expanding again after. should I just retreat to Rome/Italy and defend their or should I hold other places like spain or north africa?

>>180246546
Actually on the right it's xi sheng (牺牲 sacrifice) so you've got a bunch of nonsense tattooed on your wrists

>>180247834
>huns just ignore it and attack from a different spot
I was honestly thinking that would happen.

>>180247843

>Obligatory giving up even a single inch of rightful Roman soil

>>180247615
>>180247851
Like I'd take the word of the guy who can't tell left from right.

>>180247957
Well it's left from my perspective (^: feel free to copy the characters and translate them

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not even surprised

>>180247843
>abandoning a single fucking piece of rightul roman territory

absolutely greek

>>180237934
But /v/ is majority American, it was even majority American during prime yuropoor hours. At least, that's what I saw during /vint/.

>>180248021
>Well it's left from my perspective (^:
They're hands, fuckwit, were you born with your thumbs on the wrong sides or something? And it's taken from my point of view, so the left hand is on the left.

The fuck is wrong with you?

>>180247936
I mean I would take them back but I guess I could try to hold them. don't know how successful I'll be though since it'll be my first time playing as them

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What happened to demos /twg/? Why can't CA release the Lizardmen vs High Elves battle as a demo for us fans?

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>>180247834
>he never even became king

what a fucking loser

>>180248218
talking about err the last samurais

>>180247834
It's 1940 all over again

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>>180248374
press s to spit on his grave

Now we can finally get to work on removing these horsefuckers

>>180248219
I live on the other side of the world. At least I don’t have nonsense on my wrists.

>>180247834
I fortified the whole roman border from Gaul to the alps and stopped the Hunnic invasion along the border.
Was pretty impressed that the ai actually sometimes ignored my maginot line and went into my weaker centre in gaul

>>180248473
>I live on the other side of the world
The fuck is this supposed to mean? Where do you live? Do your people all have backwards thumb placement?

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>>180248448

>>180248575
It's quite self explanatory is it? We're on the other side of the world.

>>180248654
>It's quite self explanatory is it?
No, it's not. You said you're on the other side of the world as your excuse for not knowing what a human hand looks like, that doesn't explain shit.

Are you a fucking spider? Genetic experiment? What?

>>180248468
>he didn't even live 3 years

fucking brutal

s

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>>180247029
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Jesus Christ one minute from the time limit every unit except for one German Noble broke and that last unit held against the entire enemy army for that minute until the time limit
RIP Ybor, Wrath of Godan. You were a true legend.

>>180226384
Playing clans on west is always like that for a period of time when you get all of trade nodes. You'll need that later on, and it compensastes for the fact that for the next ~50 turns all provinces that you conquer have below average wealth and fertility of land.

And if you feel like you could take all of japan right now is probably because you play on difficulty which is too easy for you, try playing on very hard, then you'll see why do you need all of those upgrades and shit

And if you're already on VH, then I like to imagine that it's worth the wait for those gold upgrades to see later on, how your armies completly anihilate your enemies

>>180248716
Things are reversed on the other side of the world. For example people drive on the left side and even the toilet water flushes the other way around..

>>180248827
>only 65 kills combined on 2 melee cav

what did ybor mean by this?

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>>180248758
>he's not mourning Symmachus instead

Did the savages make THIS? Who will defend mos maiorum now?

>>180249012
Human anatomy isn't fucking reversed anywhere except fantasies and mutations.

And the water flush thing has been debunked. Fuck you.

>>180249013
It was a settlement battle, horses could not be properly used.
I'm not good enough for turnouts like this without ridiculous chokepoints

>>180249103
If that's what you think then you've never left your country.

>>180249193
SHOW

ME

YOUR

HANDS

SUB

HUMAN

FILTH

>>180248827
these unit names for barbarians are pretty fantasy tho

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>>180249143
>he doesn't know

Anon horses are some of the deadliest units you have in settlement battles - you get the enemy engaged with an anvil unit (ideally something like your clubs in shield wall) and once they form a big phat blob you rear charge them

>>180249421
Were the barbars even organised enough to have different units for different roles? Aside from cavalry and skirmishers of course.

>>180226606
1. HASTATI
2. Rome 2
3. Empire of Sigmar
4. The archer focused Shogun faction (Hashikage or something?)
5. For the next historical one, family trees (if it's good for the setting)

>>180249551
While I might have been able to use them in the end, there were so many enemies actually in the streets that there would have been no room to maneuver them, and they would have gotten bogged down like nobody's business

>>180249667
>rome 2

>>180226606
>Spet Xyon Archers
>Med2
>Eastern roman empire
>Prussia (Napoleon)
>pre-rome 2 army system

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>>180248468
Right on schedule

But before I can go on the offensive and clean up the mess the greeks left behind, I must first
>destroy the huns
>destroy the geats
>get my income up
>build a navy in the mediterranean

>>180222554
Is Attila the best historical title to get if I don't give a shit about Nip history

>ooh flying monsters
>expect them to swoop in and pick off a bunch of models nazgul style and then drop them off from great heights
>turns out they just land and fight on the ground

Why does CA hate fun? I bet this was done because of "balance".

>>180250420
great eagles do that, I'm sure someone here has a webm of it

>>180250420
They do tho

Especially the Griffin

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>>180250157
Theres one thing off of the list. Right now Sextus Perennis is putting together an army to march north and fuck up the vikings as payback for their obsession with Camulodunum. Its getting late though so I am going to stop here for now.

>>180250545
>>180250576
Well I've only played with manticores and that vampire counts dragon thing, I guess I'll have to buy wood elfs.

Total War: Fallout when?

What feature would you like to see in TWW2 diplomacy?
I want political marriage and form oaths between nations

Do we know what the R2 dlc is yet?

>>180252186
If we're lucky it's an "Attila mechanics" mod

>>180251960
>implying the population or manpower the factions could muster is equivalent to total war scale

>>180252458
Total War scale really isn't that big, typically a few thousand in mid-large battles and that's on highest unit size possible

NCR military alone canonically has tens of thousands during NV, and they could conceivably set it after that time as well.

>>180233609

>christianizing Japan

Waito piggu go home.

>>180252545
NCR and Legion are the only two factions that have big numbers, because they're the largest factions. No other faction I can think of has the numbers. (Brotherhood is split amongst the wasteland, and even then, all of them combined isn't that big)

>>180252737
Well we got raiders, and supermutants

>>180252737
True, there aren't enough large factions to really make it a full scale game. That being said, I think splitting it between NCR, Legion, some supermutant army (taking liberties with the lore) that functioned as a horde and maybe Vegas with robots and the families as different units if you really stretched it is a fun thing to imagine.

>>180250410

Yes, but you can massacre Samurai and Britbongs with UNITED STATES MARINES in FotS, which makes it worth it.

>>180253149
hmm that does actually interest me

FotS is standalone right

>>180253149
See this is why fuckers resisting the idea of a ww1 total war are retarded.

They already have gatling guns and heavy artillery. The next step is machime guns, trench mechanics and splitting up army into divisions mechanics so you can simulate waves of attackers.

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>mom bought red fruit jelly for me
>it comes with vanilla sauce in a separate container

i don't deserve love i don't do anything and just play Total War all day

>>180250709
Praise the Lord
You should give the legion that did this a new name to commemorate the great victory

Also, do you have any ambitions to recolonize Ireland, Scotland and the barren parts of Northern Africa?

>>180253286
About plane, trench etc I can't imagine those thing work in tw.

Fantasy innovated in battles, but history needs to innovate on the campaign map.

Every campaign has fucking sucked as a strategy game, and only retards blame Warhammer for "dumbing it down". All it did was get rid of a bunch of boring tedium.

It wouldn't make sense with Warhammer, but historical campaigns should feel more historical and strategic. There should be more fundamental differences between regions, with geography and demography actually meaning something.

I don't mean Vicky II style pop mechanics, but for games not lasting 200+ years, poor regions should stay poor, and rich regions should really stand out, so that it actually matters where we start and what areas we choose to invade. And in 200+ year games it should take a long fucking time to make your pisspoor shithole rich.

Internal management shouldn't be a pre-determined regional spreadsheet game. Depending on the setting, it should be about internal power struggles and/or developing your country, as a whole, in a particular direction.

Instead of adding up food, PO, and sanitation for every fucking province before building the same wealth-generating or unit-enabling shit, I should be planning out an empire-wide food strategy with devoted breadbasket regions, I should be planning out a military infrastructure that will enable the specific type of military I want to use, and I should be planning the wealth urban areas that will generate the money for my nation.

The campaign doesn't need to be a great strategy game, just something that would pass as a 6 or 7 on its own, instead of the unplayable boring garbage it would be if there weren't battles to provide context.

>>180253881
I couldn't imagine dragons and tyrannosaurs working in Total War either

>>180254003
This

The campaign was dumbed down from the start, and the only depth that appeared to exist was an illusion created through the retarded mechanics you mentioned. Warhammer essentially just streamlined the campaign to its most basic roots and stripped away the mostly unnecessary excess.

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>preordered a 7820X for Lord Kek

With my CPU as hot as the sun, I praise the Lord of the Solar City!

>>180253286
World War 1 just doesn't map to the Total War formula at all

A general running around on a campaign map with his army and attacking another general or a settlement - it doesn't work
Controlling squares or squads of different types of units maneuvering around the battlefield - it doesn't work

Of course CA could make a WW1 game and put "Total War" in the title but it wouldn't have anything in common with the other titles in the series besides having war in it, it would be a Spartan Total Warrior tier spinoff with completely different gameplay

>>180254128
I wish they had replaced it with anything at all though, Warhammer campaign put me to sleep

>>180254003
I didn't think Warhammer had very good battles honestly, the whole giant units and heroes on the battlefield thing really wasn't for me

>>180254021
Dragons function like flying elephants and dinos function like normal elephants. They aren't the drastic departure that trenches and planes would provide.

>>180254278

>World War 1 just doesn't map to the Total War formula at all

This, Total War can't represent the shift from the period of set piece battles between mobile armies to the period of continent-spanning military fronts.

Victoria Total War would be great, 1000-Mile Human Wave Total War would be shit.

>>180254293
Trenches would be pretty easy IMO, unique animation and an environmental bonus is all you'd need. The mechanics for charging would have to be introduced though obviously, not too much of a departure from anything they've done however.

Planes could function as an ability perhaps, or as an elite unit? At least in terms of battle. That would be a bit retarded in the greater context of the campaign though. I suppose they could introduce a layer type system where a given army has a separate section for land troops and air for example.

>>180254416
roll

What if every famous person in history is a time traveller who used their knowledge of history to become successful?

>>180254576
Alexander the Great here

Those retard Persians sure didn't expect me having played so much Total War huh

I just tried my first India campaign in Empire. How the fuck do you guys deal with the surprise british army of buttrape? I can take over around half of what the Maratha have before watching a full stack of line inf & arti rush my capital.

>>180254576
>>180254649

really makes me think

>>180254749
Spam them with dervishes, casualties be damned.

>>180254797
I'll try that, my main forces were too weak to defend against so much. Here's to hoping I can get them in chokepoints.

>>180226606
1. Dunno
2. Warhammer
3. Vampire Counts
4. Black and gold or white and black (Teutonic Order)
5. City building like in Medieval 2 and Rome 1 where you could turn village into city over time and could build everything in it without dumb, non-immersive slots which AI can't handle.

>>180254980
>I want to make the campaign even more boring

Anon...

>>180253712
>>it comes with vanilla sauce in a separate container

Those are my favorite.

>playing Age of Vikings mod for AoC
>defensive battle against the danes so I put my men in shield wall and wait for the enemy
>they arrive with about five archer units
>they all target my general
>no more general

Aaahh, the fearsome Danish archers capable of turning even the most well protected unit to shreds.

test

>>180255123
I actually agree with him. Checking every single village to see if they needed a new textile factory was shit, but good od streamlined Rome/Medieval citybuilding was fun.

>>180255265
I thought M2 and R1 city building might as well not exist, it's beyond boring

You just click every single building and have them build, all of them in every settlement

There's a reason you launch M2 and have to change the options so that you are allowed to actually build your buildings yourself instead of the AI managing it for you

>>180255334
I suppose. You do have limited choices (which temples to build, focussing on different unit production buildings), and if they were to add deeper building trees I'd happy. To each his own I suppose.

>tfw the only game I haven't bought is Attila since it was gifted to me by an Anon on /twg/
>tfw it's my favourite TW

Wherever you are anon, I hope you're having a good day.

>>180226606
Waywatcher
Shogun 2
Empire
ERE colours
Needing certain resources before you can build some buildings, making them matter more + siege battles that aren't just one front of the wall. I wanna siege Nuln or Erengrad

>>180255473
I guess, but to me that's just nonsensical

Why are you even playing Total War instead of TW clones like Ultimate General Gettysburg or Mark of Chaos that don't have a campaign map and instead a set progression that features some super simple choices between the battles

Should they remove researching technology and upgrading your general as well? I guess I just stop seeing the point of having a campaign map at all if you keep going in that direction

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>>180226606
>1. Favorite Total War Unit
saxon elite marines, or whatever it was called pic related
>2. Favorite Total War Title
Attila
>3. Favorite Total War Faction
WRE
>4. Favorite Total War Color scheme
hard to pick one, roman red is always nice, the white huns have a decent colour scheme too
>5. Favorite Total War Mechanic you want back in the next games
Destructible cities and civilians running around, could be even better if population system was added back and somehow interacted with the above. I'd also like to see a lot of minor features from empire, like patriotic fervour, clamour for reform, better trade, replenishment system

>>180231660
>and sanitation
>the game has a literal god of shit, disease and filth
>HURRR sanitation makes no sense in warham
hell when skaven are added there could even be an extra downside added to sanitation, meaning you either have shit everywhere and nurgle, or you build sewers but that makes it easier for rats to infiltrate you

>>180256039
>clamour for reform

I never understood this feature. What reforms were the people clamouring for? No matter how many techs I researched I never seemed to be able to lower it without outright destroying my universities.

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You know what lads

I was lying in bed yesterday and just sort of thinking to myself
"You know what, if they make Total China and it's a good game, I'll give it a shot."

If it's good, I'll murder lots of Chinamen
I don't mind

Myself I greatly enjoyed Attila and if that team makes another game like that I will be ok with it being set in China

>>180256402
>What reforms were the people clamouring for?
more democratic government, with a republic you barely had any clamour for reform

>>180253712
Did you tell her that you love her and appreciate her?

>>180256475
>more democratic government

Ah right, that makes sense. I never really saw the point in going for a republic since most of the flags were shit.

>>180256470
I'll only accept it if it's Genghis Total War, otherwise the ricebois can suck my BBC (Big British Cock)

>>180256584
To be completely and utterly honest I sort of feel like that would be rather similar to Attila in terms of themes and whatnot, the world ending rider on a black horse and all that

But then again I will take as much Attila as they will grant me and I would most definitely prefer that to Dynasty Warriors Total War

>>180256584
>Genghis Khan total war spanning Asia and Eastern Europe
>CA sneaks in a cheeky Byzantine Empire for the Romaboos

I can see this happening

>>180256742
>rather similar to Attila

True, but Attila never took on China AND Europe.

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I think the series should be named "Total" instead of Total War

>Total Warhammer
>Total Attila
>Total Rome
>Total Napoleon
>Total Empire
>Total Shogun

These sound much better than the Total War equivalent

Who's with me?

Also rename "Medieval" to "Knight" Total Knight

Memes aside, if it's a larger historical title than they've ever had, it's gotta be a global focus game, considering Empire had Europe, India, and half the Americas.

This is a disgusting and degenerate world we live in, and China Total War would be too pure for it.

>>180256914
Are you the same person who always posts cats, or does /twg/ just have a fascination with felines?

>>180256914

I don't think it's a good idea. Also knights are shit, Total Peasant or Total Saracen would be better.

>>180257050
Imagine all the DLC we could be buying

Don't forget that it's not an era they have visited before though, so Empire 2 not yet

>>180257078
Cats make for good images, this cannot be denied

>>180257137
Total Sherwood Archer

>>180257137
>>180257174
They should have just called Medieval 2 "Total Failure"

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What news we getting today?

>>180257050
Why the hell are people so obsessed with a Total War set in China? Do you guys really want a game where every army is literally the same?

>>180257195
delete this, I thoroughly enjoyed Third Age

>>180257234

China Total War would have a diverse and interesting cast of units, superior to every previous Total War game except perhaps Rome 1+2 and Attila.

>>180257226
Today, probably nothing much since there's campaign shit tommorow

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>>180256914
Only thing that annoys me is that older Total War games was named
>title: Total War
rather than
>Total War: title
Now they changed it for the better, but older games still have title before series name which triggers my autism.

>>180256914
I think they should reverse it like it was in the first game.

>Shogun: Total War
>Warhammer: Total War
>Attila: Total War
>Rome: Total War
>Napoleon: Total War
>Empire: Total War
>Medieval: Total War

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>>180257414

Where's Attila?

>>180257446
Shit low effort spin off titles have total war at the front whilst the main flagship games have total war at the back.