/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Give me youre interpretation of the lothric civil war or silent power grab! any headcanon will do.

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cute

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Watch Plague playing Dark Souls!

>>180193394
Does SL matter with password matchmaking?
>>180193556
sidhepock on twitch

>>180194098
Pontiff Sulyvahn got butthurt, told Lothric not to link the fire, and shitted everything up. End of story.

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>>180194138

Click this link!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPmxMEVhk8

>>180193929
>Here's a bonfire at the bottom of the church elevator, and a straight line through several mobs in an un-invadable area to the very next bonfire!
>Here's a bonfire right in the middle of the swamp, just a few trash mobs away from the bonfire at the start of the area!
>Here's yet another bonfire at the bottom of a ladder, where the only thing in your way is two non-respawning NPCs!
>Putting out those two flames must have been hard work! Here's a bonfire for your efforts!
>Were those passive Corvians right after the door too tough for you? Have a bonfire! Right next to a shortcut that you'll never use because of this bonfire!
>Need a breather after the Crystal Sage bonfire? Did those two machete hollows and that one lone Evangelist really kick your ass? Bonfire! Don't worry about invaders in this area either!

>>180194173
No, also that same anon who wants to play

>>180194098
Sulyvahn was a scholar of the Grand Archives, and after discovering the Profaned Flame underneath his hometown of Irithyll, demonstrated the power to Lothric and convinced him to not link the fire
however, the main religious branch of Lothric is all about linking the fire, and rallied behind the winged knights and Gertrude.
Though, it seems that a lot of time has passed since then, with Sulyvahn going back to Irithyll, claiming title of Pontiff, getting gud with magic and his lmao2greatsword techniques, as well as making friends with Aldritch

>>180194426
What do you want to do?

>>180194138
>everyone always talks about how OP DWGR was in DaS1
>"let's give everybody at 70% equip load the same type of bullshit overpowered roll, only make it cost less stamina!"
>thus Roll Souls 3 was born

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Serious lore question
Why did Pontiff Sulyvahn's dick get chopped off? Did they try to Gwyndolinify him?

>>180194358
it seems that the multi-bonfire areas have much more to do with the invasion zones than actual logical bonfire placements
for instance, you can't invade in Dragonslayer armor area, but there are invasion areas on either side of it (grand archives and lothric castle)
in addition, the Crystal Sages area to Cathedral is not an invasion area, but just after and just before are.
I think I just plain disagree with you about the Farron Keep bonfires, they are welcome respite in a relatively tough early area.

>>180194173
>start scrolling your art blog
>cute dark souls art, suddenly tits
nice

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>people are STILL playing Dark Souls 3
Literally why

>>180194138
>plague
should off yourself

are quality builds still any good, or is it more worth it to make a dedicated str and a dedicated dex build?

>>180194668
Wow, him being a complete asshole all the time makes a lot more sense now.

Maybe it got frostbite and fell off in the painted world.

>>180194138
jesus christ he's fucking terrible!
>those 3 freeaim whiffs
why the fuck do people watch this meme streamer

>>180194606
You still have any area bosses alive?

>>180194847
because he draws bad porn

>>180194668

Maybe he did it to him self to prove his loyalty to the sword.

>tfw no fun fist weapons in DaS3

>>180195021
Besides the ones I'm leaving alive on purpose, no.

>>180195128
He's more of a scholar/sorcerer than a warrior really.

>>180193920
Jim did you just die to Heysel
Set your sign again

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For item swapping does the item swapped need to be the same?

Long Sword > other right-hand weapon
Ring > other ring
or can I go alchemist
Pants > ring
Shield > armor piece

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At what point does leveling VIG get you less value than leveling VIT? Where should you cap?

What's the minimum amount of stats needed to make vestiges viable. On another related note, is vestiges required for a viable Quality/pyromancy build? Still trying to puzzle out how to both sling fire and get use out of the Ringed Knight SS.

>>180195996
25/25 sounds like a good starting point, then work your way up to 40/40. You want shit like Black Flame, Black Serpent, Surge, Vestiges and maybe GFCO if you want to sacrifice a ring slot for it.

>>180195880
Do whatever, turn a throwing knife into darkmoon blade
>>180195890
depends on how much armor you want

>>180195172
Continue on with your stream, most of my characters are all low level anyway since I'm starting them back up from nothin. And the highest have is a 140 guy for ducking around.

>>180193920
Somebody wanna gank in the Swamp?

>>180196254
How much poise is usually enough for most ultras?

>>180194747
cuz unironically it's the worst RPG but descent hack and slash we got in 2017.

>>180196718
I aim for 27-31, but hyper armor frames are weird as fuck, or maybe I just dont know enough about that

>38 replies
>page 8
DED THRED DED GAEM

>>180195890
Vigor doesn't have a soft cap like other stats where there's a perfect value and then drops off hard. It slopes off gradually between 27 and 50, where you get less and less out of each level as you go. But to answer your question, anywhere above 35 and below 45 is usually a good place to stop.

As for Vit, only level it to wear the armor you need for poise and/or fashion while staying just under 70%. There is something to be said about flat defenses, but it's generally not very efficient to level for that alone.

Quick /dsg/, should I make a faith/dex or a pyro caster build?

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>>180195171
>tfw the only fun we had they took away from us

>>180196240
Is fire surge really worth it? From what I can tell it just chugs your focus for some damage.

>>180197753
Pyro. Faith before you reach at least Lothric Castle is pretty damn shitty outside of Dorhys' Gnawing, and most of the best Miracles are locked behind bosses (Nameless King, SoC) or ultra late DLC (Lightning Arrow).

At least with Pyro, you can walk out of Smouldering Lake with most of what you want, and then get the rest from Karla. The worst that happens is that you wait until the DLCs to get Floating Chaos and Seething Chaos, Demon's Scar you can get someone to drop for you.

>>180197987
Surge has won too many games for me where I only needed 50-100 damage on my opponent to finish them. It's a safe distance finisher and every pyro should use it.

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CUTE

>>180198095
Girls needs a rape horse to compliment the image.

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>>180194740
Those are far and few, unfortunately.
>>180196471
Alright captain.

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>>180198646
Whoops. This should be transparent.

>>180198376
>reindeer/chariot in ds2
>ludwig in bb
>ds3 only has dogs
>>180198646
shouldn't there be some fire there?

>>180197753
What is Dex/Faith good for? DMB sharp weapons on 40/40 are pretty weak, especially compared to 27/60 Str/Faith.

The only worthwhile thing I can think of is the Swordspear, but isn't it better to keep Faith low on that thing?

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>cornyx would go great with karla's hat for a ratty witch look
>that clipping

>>180199576
Karla's Hat and Fallen Knight chest go together really well, it's a very rugged survivor kinda look, scrapped from pieces you find hither and thither. Maybe try that one out.

>>180194645
not to mention that stamina regen isn't affected by weight cap anymore either.

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>reach for estus just in time
>it's not estus

Anyone have any fun 175 SL Dark Souls 2 builds? Just finished my first playthrough with a powerstance Dex build and looking for something a tad different.

>>180198821
Dude what's your art blog?

>>180199880
Type in his name and it should Google out to his tumblr. Real good looking stuff there

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Do poise frames feel completely random, or is it just me?

Was the drop rate of titanite shards improved?

I already have 14 at the undead settlement

Usually I cant +3 my weapon until the crucifixion woods.

>>180199809
Sorceries are pretty neato and are easy to get online because of Dragonrider. A 50 Str build is also pretty fun, you can get Pursuer's really early too and eventually transition to Orma-Reeve's.

>>180197643
im busy playing

>>180200125
You playing with a high-luck char? 'Cause I'm +3ing my weapon at Crucifixion woods even after hunting down every placed shard

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How the fuck are people rolling out of true combos?

Guys help I can't beat midir

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>>180199880
sidhepock on tumblr

>>180200641
Did you expect anything other than "git gud"?

>>180200013
All I get are blogs with gay shit and no Dark Souls

>>180198821
finally, ive been waiting for this one
i might add my own little "we did it bros..." line
thanks sidhe

>>180200532
nope, 7 luck

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>>180200695
thanks my dude. There's some real good shit in there. This got a good kek out of me.

What fashion goes well with Aquamarine Dagger?

>>180200031
n e t c o d e

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>>180200908
>>180200793
ye

>>180196019
This is after fighting for about 5 minutes and he'd gone through 6 Estus. Presuming the poise was because he was out of healing, and he didn't know I was also out.

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>>180201267
You have 30 seconds to explain why you're not using the Warpick.

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dear dsg

what the fuck? she was like this all the time flyin thru air and going thru walls

>>180202272
noclip

>>180194098
Serpents fucked everything up, also fattie knights are the new dark wraith.

>>180202087
I always keep it in my inventory and play a few arena games with it before I drop it again for a while. I just always ALWAYS lose WA trades against Greatswords and that shit is what everyone is running right now. I have no clue how to work this weapon.

>>180202272
The magic of Collector's Edition.

>>180202272
>apathy
she doesn't care about walls nibba

>>180194645
Ill never forgrt 70% ninja flipping with gwns greatsword, thr giants greatshield, and a mix of catarina and smoughs armor in das1 before that thing was nerfed.

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So can somebody tell me how i'm supposed to use the BKGA? I can't hit anybody.

>>180193920
>tfw when you are watching the Gael Boss fight of the Youtuber who made the first Dark Souls 3 video you watched
>He is literally a shitter and played through the game with Dark Sword + Black Knight Shield + Cathedral Knight Set
>Says that Gael is shit because the second Phase is too fast
Some people are just shit

>>180194138
>Watch Plague playing Dark Souls terribly while bitching and contradicting his own opinions and sounding smug

Just bought BB, what am I in for?

>>180200641
git gud shitter

>>180203840
Dark souls, but more aggressive. Guns being mostly useless, and a pretty good experience. Go in blind, as usual, and don't stop being blind until you beat it. It's good shit.

>>180194358
>>180194726
>in addition, the Crystal Sages area to Cathedral is not an invasion area, but just after and just before are.

That's because they use that to hide area loading.

>they are welcome respite in a relatively tough early area.
Farron Keep just isn't a "tough area" because of those bonfires. The design of the area is great if you only tag the beginning bonfire because it's almost Valley of Defilement-tier large but it loops back into itself and is doable with just the beginning bonfire just like VoD.

But the middle bonfires just suck all the challenge out of the area and instead of being a tough zone, Farron Keep is just irritating.

And that's why almost none of the DS3 areas have any character or tension, because by improving "quality of life" by cutting down on runbacks that might make casuals throw the game, they just removed all the challenge with throwing bonfires everywhere.

Comparing Bloodborne's level design with DS3's, this is evident.

>>180203840
Don't get more than 20 end. 15 end is optimal for most builds. The game is way more aggression focused so stamina regens fast and the costs are low.

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>slovakia
>france
>turkey
>france
>italy
>spain
>india
>spain
>italy
>sweden

This game is killing me slowly on the inside.

Does anything become unavailable once you open up place the cinders and open up the kiln like certain npc vendors? My autism is making me do Nameless King before that but he is frustrating me and I kinda just want to to say fuck it and go ahead and do Ringed City + Soul of Cinder.

King of Storm isn't a problem but I always seem to slip up before I even get a half of NK's hp. I got him down to a sliver once but then slipped up using my estus at a bad point when I should of just kept dodging.

It is 20 fucking 17 and people I invade still regularly have 12-1300 HP. I'm not complaining, but what the fuck.

>>180204180
>but it loops back into itself

No it doesn't. Farron keep is just a big open circle, there's a vague path around the middle where you start on the left and go toward the right but the area doesn't loop.

Farron has no shortcuts or paths, it's entire point is "hey guys look how large of a flat area we can make". It's blighttown swamp 2.0 instead of valley of defilement, except even blighttown swamp had nooks, crannies, hidden paths, and a completely hidden optional area to go to also, not just a boss fight.

>>180204906
You can't give the kiln to Ludleth. You can still transpose if you gave it beforehand

>>180204374
Only Turkey and India are shitholes and Turkey a shithole full of sub humans

>>180205690
Giving the fire keeper the eyes just gives the option of the dark it doesn't set it in stone right?

Doing a Dark Souls run with the Halberd and holy shit guys this is the best moveset in the entire game

>>180206303
Yes I give her the eyes just to unlock the new shrine theme. You make your decision on the ending at the first flame, where you can opt to summon the fire keeper.

>>180204374
I end up playing the Chinese a lot and they're nearly always cheating in some manner.

>>180205470
The area loops into itself through the Farron Keep Perimeter shortcut back to Road of Sacrifices.

I only use the first bonfire and boss bonfires to play DS3 DeS/BB style and by doing that you notice just how the different shortcuts work and how a lot of the bonfires are flat out unnecessary.

Abyss Watchers door run is :
>spawn in Farron Keep
>climb ladder back to RoS
>roll through the Swamp
>go to Farron Keep Perimeter through the shortcut
>run / fight your way to Abyss Watchers

Similarly Lothric Castle works very well around just one bonfire and they could've improved the design further by giving you a ladder to drop down from the tower near near the Twinaxe Winged Knight.

The level design in DS3 is good for the most part, it's the checkpointing that sucks.

The frayed blade is a fucking gloriously fun dex weapon

I feel like this is something they should have done with more weapons, having bleed/poison/frostbite stacking based around a weapon art instead of just turning every weapon with a secondary effect into a slightly lower AR weapon to balance it

>>180206329
>>180206649
>Shitters first experience without spamming R1 Straightsword

Is Dark Sword still viable or has it been nerfed into oblivion? I feel like doing a Total Shitter run.

>>180194427
That would also make the Propaned Capital Gargoyles showing up in Grand Archives make some sense.

>>180206894
It's still pretty great.

>>180206649
Frayed actually hits the same AR on 40/40 as it does on min/77 Dex.

Really good weapon though, agreed.

>>180204374
>get invaded by some guy in darkwraith armor
>he just skips tiles and glides all over the place
>randomly take damage
>dark spirit has returned to his world
>check profile
>RUSSIA

There should be a point where even the shitty netcode should not let you play with people that far away from you.

>>180206894
Lothric Knight is better because it actually has an R2 worth a shit, but Dark Sword is still the one to go for on a shitter cosplay build for the connotations it brings.

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>>180204925
>1300 HP
Luxury.

>>180207251
>try to space & dont roll when its nowhere near
>still get hit

its frustrating because you look like an idiot

>>180206894

I use it allot as an off hand weapon. It's LT move is nice a quick and does good to balance the ultra great sword/great axe I use as my main weapon.

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>>180207251
>Under 1000

>>180204374
swedes are the literal worst

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Don't forget to pay attention to your daily calcium intake, /dsg/

>>180208173
Dex fags need to be gassed.

Is tinder any good? I'm torn between going cs pyro and tindermage

>>180208295
It's a good catalyst for swordceries due to the range, other than that it's pretty damn bad.

>>180208295
It's the longest range halberd and has great spell buff and basic damage on 60 INT. The biggest nuisances with it are the 12 Faith requirement which makes pyro or Knight better starting classes for it and needing a decent amount of poise to be able to tank hits with the 2H moveset.

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question for all of you

would it be dumb to make another steam account just to buy das3 again so i can make more characters? i've already had to delete 7 characters just to make more. i know there;s something i can do with the save files but not only am i worried i'd fuck something up in the process because i'm technologically retarded but also because i'm worried i'll get banned or something.

>>180200031
Your poise is a healthpool that regenerates over time.

>>180206521
Hey this is actually useful info, I really like the song.

>>180209239
Copy your save folder some other place, delete it from the steam folder, start DaS up and enjoy your new 10 slots. What the fuck, man.

>>180209249

Stomp weapon art regenerates it as well I believe, there could be more

>Lothric Spear apparently raises poise
>my poise is the same
???

>>180209389
you need to have it out

>>180209239
what the fuck is wrong with you? search %appdata%, open "roaming", copy the "DarkSoulsIII" folder somewhere

>>180209239
You could just copy your save folder out to a different location and then make a new file, then swap them in and out when you need to.

Save files are usually in C:\Users\Yourname\AppData\Roaming\DarkSoulsIII, just cut and paste the folder elsewhere on your harddrive.

>>180209447
I do, i get no change.

>>180208173
>tfw no spoopy skelton weapons
They could include Nitos Sword in Catacombs as something in Wolnirs room (part of his collection) or some Skelton Mini Boss who acts like he is the Gravelord himself but actually turns out to be a bad Rip Off.
This lazy Japs should include all the fun/popular weapons from older games in a creative way or just as loot since it makes to find once precious or mighty weapons in a world that falls apart.

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>>180199768

Are any spears good on a sorcery build?
Using MLGS as my main weapon, and ive never used a spear before.

Also, would crystal infusion for said spear or raw + buff be better?

>>180208295
I use Tinder when I am in other cities, works pretty gud imo

>500 hours into DaS3, not counting the 100 or so on a pirated version
>only now learn that Thralls have a grab attack that they can initiate from behind you where they climb onto your back and hack you into the ground with that pissant little axe of theirs

A question for you fellows. Is Flame Longsword you can pick up really early in DS II overpowered or am I just not at the part of the game where I ought be switching it out for something else? I've gotten it to 10+ and have been using it ever since I picked it up. It's just comfy as fuck to use, especially its two-hand moveset.

>>180203368
stagger with WA -> R2(or R1) -> charged R2

same as dsg or millwood battle axe.

>>180194747
It is the worst Souls game, but still a fairly decent game.

How many phantoms/what gear must a host have before you are justified in unzipping borthammer?

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>burning Cracked Red Eyes in DLC areas for fun and souls
>80% of the time the host dies before I find them
>10% of the time the host has 5-6 minutes to find player signs with which to gangbang me by the time I find them
>5% of the time I'm stuck in an area I can't advance or backtrack from
>4% of the time the host decide the best way to engage me is while surrounded by enemies
>1% of invasions actually end in a 1v1 duel
Shulva is not very invasion friendly.

>>180209910
>tfw no optional Abyssal King Wolnir if you killed him by breaking his bracelets and letting the abyss drag him away

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>>180194747
>>180196813
>>180210548

i'm still waiting for you faggots to just admit that 3 is the best in the series and to stop nostalgia fagging

>>180210706
What do you mean, invasions are good 84% of the time according to your statistics

>>180210965
Host dying before you ever see them isn't fun

Invading is pretty much only for fun

>>180210827
They won't, because of (you)s

Whats the cut off to invade into sl120?

I leveled to sl 134. For some reason instead of just switching weapons I wanted two equipped at once.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/213040

>>180210548
According to the rules of time and space this is not possible as long as Dark Souls 2 exists
Everything else is your own opinion

Anyone tried playing ds (not das1) on ps3 emulator? I'm wrestling with RPCS3 at no avail. please send help.

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>>180211604
>parroting the "Dark Souls 2 is bad" meme

>>180210820
>No God-King Lucifer Boss
>When you read his name you think it's going to be the hardest Boss in the series, literally raping Midir
>It's just an obese 40 year old balding man with a Yugioh Duel Disk and some shitty hentai anime pedophile cosplay, spamming webms of beating Fume Knight

>>180210624
>borthammer
Why is it named that

>>180211997
Because it's funny

Presumably somebody mispronounced Vordt and it stuck.

>>180211913
Its the worst game in the series

Does crown of dusk also boost weapons infused with crystal magic weapon? Also like the MLG

Alright guys, so I'm gonna buy DS1: Prepare to Die Edition (I believe it has all the DLC).

Any tips besides the ones in the pastebin?

I'm making a Smough build cause of his badass hammer (https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/177070)

Got no Playstation so no Demon's Souls, but is DS2 worth it? Heard some people say how it felt like a cheap and different knock off of 1, but they also said 3 was too similar to 1.

so is everyone in the bhb arena just a complete tryhard cunt

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Just beat Dark Souls for the first time, moving on to the second one now. Any advice/things I need to know about for the second game? I know a lot changes.

>>180213001

Pay your ADP tax.

>>180213001
get your adaptability stat to 24 if you want to have ds1 i-frames on your rolls

redpill me on SL70+10

>>180213001
Online is dead, 100% completion require asethetics to speed shit up. Emerald herald at Manila is a whore. Power stancing is fun as hell, experiment with your play style since for the the DLCs you'll need to be 100+ above to enjoy it.

>>180212605
DS2 has a very different feel to the other games. There are often multiple paths forward, you're encouraged to build a jack-of-all-trades, and it's much closer to Demon's Souls than any of the other games. Ironically the more attached you are to DS1's systems the less you'll enjoy it.

DS2:SotFS is currently in Humble Monthly for $12, and at that price I'd say it's definitely worth checking out. Build loose, remember Agility, be prepared to fight shittons of enemies at once, and I hope you like huge dudes in armor.

>>180212605
DS2 is a very different beast. It sacrifices quality of level design and encounter design for character customisation and options.

It's by no means a bad game, but it left a bad taste in the mouths of people who wanted something more akin to Dark Souls 1.

3 is the bastard child of DS1 and Bloodborne.

>>180210219
There are far better weapons out there. It's just a regular Longsword infused with a Firedrake Stone, it does ass for physical and Fire damage.

It just so happens that the early game is full of enemies weak to Fire damage. Once you get later into the game, expect that shit not to work anymore.

>>180213001
Buy Niho instead, a shitty game but 10x better than Dark Souls 2

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>>180211997

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What's the point of hacking when you will likely be blocked and never able to interact with that player again ?

>>180214369
A fleeting feeling of superiority.

>>180212605
>>180213001
That was fast yo.

>>180212605
DaS2 had an abortion of a development cycle, its quality went down the shitter because they fired the original developer halfway in and cobbled together a game from what they made, and they had to dumb down the graphics to be able to run it on PS3 and 360. It has a lot of unique mechanics that try to move the game forward but also a lot of bad mechanics that really screw things up. Overall, it's a hit and miss but it's still worth a try. Buy Scholar of the First Sin, it's basically what the game should have been at launch, and for only $10-12 you probably won't regret the money you spend on it.

DaS3 suffers from Triple A syndrome, it looks amazing but all the areas use basically the same color palette, it's linear as fuck and it takes several steps backwards in terms of gameplay mechanics. But people will defend it because it's the most recent (and last) game in the series. It's a fun experience but it's also the shortest game in the series and it emphasizes presentation over depth. It's only really worth getting right now if you intend to participate in the PvP, otherwise wait for a sale.

>>180214704
git gud

>>180210219
Honestly until you start collecting solid boss weapons you can +5 there aren't many clearly superior alternatives. It's just a really versatile weapon.

>Guy tries to parry a fully charged Cathedral GS R2
>Instantly dies

The people in this game continue to astound me

Do enough people play DaS2 to justify creating a character for PvP?

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>Invade at SL40
>Nothing but fuckoff huge swords
I want them to buff reapers or something.

>>180215836
With Soul Memery, there isn't much point. Just play for the PvE and treat invasions as a rare occurrence.

You "might" find activity in the arenas at SL150, but that's about it.

>>180215915
Reaper buff would be amazing

Will never happen

Everything below 45 will continue to be Borthammers and Cathedral Greatswords

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geez its been so long since i got fanmail. i forgot how good it feels.

>>180215915
>Invade at SL40
>Nothing but three man phantom squads

The matchmaking in this game is cancer.

>>180216297
bm?

>>180216297
I always write Drake lyrics back

>>180216440
no clue. i just out-traded his onyx with an astora gs

is SL15 a good level for Undead Settlement invasions?

I feel like this game is going to have a better invasion experience in like three, four months, when the game is mostly dead and there are fewer random sunbros to summon at the start of areas, and it's mostly just people buying it for the pve experience.

>>180215836
I wouldn't say it's the right type of game for that. However, if you plan to rush Agape Ring there will be an influx of scrubs in two weeks.

>>180215926
I'm still trading invasion dickings at SM3.8M. Given how dead everyone says the game is, it surprises even me

>>180209910
>should include all the fun/polular weapons from older games
Oh fuck off, this was the mindset that lead to DS3 having so much lazy fanservice as is. Only the generic soldier weaponry and equipment should be returning and all unique / boss stuff should be left out.

Glad Dark Souls is over so they have to throw all the fanservice crap in the garbage and start again.

>>180216351
That's every SL.

Reds get the shit end of the stick in this game, but invasions are still way more fun than anything else.

>got into arena 1vs2
>they take turns bullying me
n-no please

>>180216551
people are most likely SL20-35
despite what most "hardcore dark souls gamurs" will say the average player is shit and will level up several times before facing vordt

>>180216440
>>180216549
bad manners??

Sorry, new to the weapon. Bleed or Sharp for Crow Talons?

>>180216297
>got hatemail once from a guy complaining about phantom range
>on ps4

He must have been very new to think phantom range was at all unusual.

>>180217524
Sharp

Bleed is irrelevant almost always, since the nerf.

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>>180216907
>Buuuhuuu my butthurt opinion is the absolute truth and guiding force
>hating appropriate fan service
go play shit souls 2

>>180217524
Sharp. It's never worthwhile to build completely around status effect in PVP, you can completely negate the proc by rolling.

>>180200125
Can confirm they be dropping like candy

>Fighting Host and Blue
>Red invades
>Attacks me

What kind of cuck do you have to be to do this?

Quite some time ago, well before SotFS was out, I got DS2 in a steam sale

I do not consider myself gud at video games

After dying to the first Heide Knight a few times, I thought I would never git gud

So, I abandoned the game

Now, I decided to try again

I wanted to know what gitting gud feels like

I'm about 34 hours in, just reached the Forgotten Chamber bonfire in Drangleic castle, on a mostly blind run

currently using this build: https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/64946

I have no idea what I'm doing, other than it's super comfy to stay behind my 100% shield and peeking out every once in a while to poke or bash, so I don't need to roll, so I don't care about fatrolling

Other than the NPC dark spirits, no real PvP, though i'm guessing because it's not SotFS

Am I on my way to gitting gud? Or is there still a long way to go for me before i git gud?

Need good weapons to use at 40 Strength. Do I just pick anything that scales well in Str or are there weapons that scale differently like caraltysts do?

>>180217753
That's funny because the only person butthurt is you for them not including the shit you wanted in the game.

>go play shit souls 2
Only pcucks restricted to the Dark Souls series think that if you criticize ds3 then ds2 must be their favorite game.

>>180218325
>I dont need to roll

You're still at square fucking one boyo.

>>180216551
SL15 is for High Wall. Most people hit SL20 for Und*** Settlement, 25 by Crucifixion Woods.

>>180193920
My Arena Build is a shitter cosplay right now to give people a very bad experience right now. Weapons, spells and armor are on fleek. Should I use the Carthus Bloodring to complete the shitter appearrance?

>>180218079
The kind that wants to make you ragepost.

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>>180218497
>Only pcucks restricted to the Dark Souls series think that if you criticize ds3 then ds2 must be their favorite game.

see attached

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>>180218497
>Hehe... actually you were the one who was butthurt!!!
>Using terms like pcuck
Kys 12 years old rhetoric master

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How the fuck do you space out your opponent without getting fucked by phantom range?

>>180218325
>I have no idea what I'm doing,

Getting good feels like when you can stop saying this.

Try reading the descriptions, looking up how the stats work, testing with weapons, looking at your inventory and compare/contrasting stats.

You don't "git gud" by just playing, you "git gud" by LEARNING.

When you learn how the game works, you can kill most bosses in DS2 within 10 seconds or less, usually in just a few hits.

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>see posts about Gael being "DS3's Orphan of Kos"
>fight him for the first time
>his fighting style is pretty similar but I don't see-
>his third phase literally has OoK's Lightning strikes

>>180218325
>Don't need to roll

Try again

>>180218497
>>180218863
>Replying your own post, with your own screenshot of an older shitty post by yourself
Your existence gets sadder by the day samefagging Dark Souls 2 shitter

>>180218730
I mean, I still cucked the blue out of his ear so it's fine with me, but I just don't really see the point.

Actually, maybe I do. I always target blues above hosts because I like to imagine the tears of frustration they must feel, so maybe it's like that

>>180218325
Gitting gud in DS2 means not using a shield and using magic, 2HD or powerstances for everything.

>>180219015
stop posting this art, that estus is tiny, it's SHIT

>>180219428
The artist wanted to point out how small your dick looks like if a woman would ever humilate herself with touching your penis

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>beat Homoprinces on Faith build
>decide to go for Lothric's because Faith build and zero physical stats to take advantage of Lorian's anyway
>it's shittier than Sunlight Straight Sword in virtually every way except having a guard break

What are the chances that this, Storm Curved, Eleonora, Darkmoon Longbow, Onislayer, Repeating Crossbow, Dancer's, Valorheart, Arstor's, Yorshka's, Firelink, Wolnir's and Morne's actually get buffed in future patches?

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>>180218341
>>180194819

It's time for another round of "simple DS3 scaling questions that can all be answered with a single image" See attached.

Best infusion depends on your str vs dex. At 40/40 you would be best off using uninfusable weapons like Gael's GS or Farron GS. At 40/16 though you would be better off using pure strength weapons like Splitleaf GS.

40 strength's biggest advantage is being able to use greatshields on quality (both str and dex) weapons. If you're going pure strength though, it's worth going up to 66 strength instead of stopping at 40.

Quality best on 27/40 or 40/40 whenever using sharp or refined weapons with greatshields, and whenever using non infusable weapons or sharp weapons with decent strength scaling.

>>180219247
>not using greatshields in the game where greatshields are the most broken shit ever
They even introduced paired greatshields that you could mash people with, for fuck's sake.

>>180218912
Says the guy whose comeback was "go play shit souls 2"

>>180218863
Is that post supposed to prove something?
Yeah, the games are different but they have a ton of carryover from previous titles.

Take parrying and backstabs for example. DeS and DaS1 had the fairly fast parries and backstabs that granted you iframes and allowed you to clear a lot of mobs in group situations safely and reliably as long as you were proficient in parrying of course.

Dark Souls 2 completely changed that, with parrying essentially requiring prediction in advance in PvE and parrying knocking mobs and players flat on their asses and then you need to walk up to them and initiate the animation for the riposte. This process is NOT fast and does not give you iframes so it's not useful for group situations and the whole system made parrying in PvE pretty unreliable.

Dark Souls 3 then changed it to be more like DeS / DaS1.

DeS and BB also share major features like the level / hub system and essentially Bloodborne uses a more compact "Nexus" style hub and the way the lamps / archstones work is the same as well.

>>180219719
I think this is supposed to be the final patch
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/3062859681141838294
or I am prob wrong and they plan on doing a final balance patch?

>>180218524
>>180219042

why roll when i can block most anything with minimal damage, if any, and strafing works just as well? Only boss I actually felt the need to switch up my loadout was Old Iron King because blocking did nothing, and I got him on my second try after switching up

>>180219014

It was a bit hyperbole, as i said, it's not a fully blind run, and I do read up on whatever comes my way
I know certain stats peak at certain points, and I've learned not to use the ring of restoration instead of a chloranthy ring
Most importantly learnt the importance of stamina management and timing, pattern recognition with enemy attacks and such, so there's a certain degree that I know what i'm doing

I just feel like compared to the people that've been playing for years, I have no idea (such as just learning what power stancing is 34 hours into my first playthrough)

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>>180218945
Phantom range is constant, adapt to the latency.

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>>180211834
PLZ respond :'(

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>>180219948
Most souls fans haven't been around long enough with the company or played enough games outside of DS1/DS2/DS3 to realize that their opinions about DS2, the "B-team" and miyazaki's influence are mostly fiction created by youtube e-celebs and every time a new game comes out, the entire story changes yet again.

>>180219948
>with parrying essentially requiring prediction in advance in PvE
No, thats a PvP thing, PvE is still purely reaction parries unless you are trying to go for UGS hilt parries or something equally as stupid.

> PvE and parrying knocking mobs and players flat on their asses and then you need to walk up to them and initiate the animation for the riposte. This process is NOT fast and does not give you iframes
The ripostable state that enemies are in is roughly ten times as long as it was in DS1, giving you far more time to position yourself to get the riposte rather than a normal R1
Backstabs and parries both give you 95% damage resistance, it's not invincibility but even the strongest attacks in the game barely tickle you.

Parrying is much better VS groups in 2 than it was in 1, but enemy design as a whole is different in 2, they tend to move far slower so just running circles around them is usually the far more effective approach.

Feel free to have your opinions but sometimes you are just wrong, if you want to repeat stale memes head over to /v/ I'm sure you'll find someone there that hasn't played the game and will actually believe that you are in any sort of danger when in a backstab/riposte/guard break punish animation

>>180220005
Someone's been saying that the latest patch was the final patch ever since TFF edition came out. Each one of them has been proven wrong, as I'm sure this one will be.

>>180220451
Where hopefully this isn't the last patch

>>180220451
>>180220005
The player message from the may patch said that the next one would be the final patch, but after 1.35 came out this month, it didn't change, so maybe they consider 1.35 to be a calibration/adjustment rather than an actual patch

>>180220279
"Everything you liked about game X will be invalidated in the next game" is a load of baloney and assumes that people universally liked the same things in the games. Because some features stay the same or come back after one game in between but adapted.

>>180220172
Even with a shield run you probably shouldn't have that much equip load, it really fucks with your overall stamina regen, stamina management being a far bigger issue for shield builds than rolling builds

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>>180220429
reminds me of this

>>180220429
Good job missing the actual point which was that there are distinct features withing the series that are not undone by the next title and/or they come back later as the image suggested.

>>180220630
Every time a new from software game comes out, people hype it up as the best thing ever, and then a month after release they complain how they ruined the series and it's awful and the previous game (which used to be the awful one) is now better than they thought.

It's the endless cycle of ecelebs feeding off of 4chan contrarianism, and most souls players (who only started playing in 2013+) haven't been with the company long enough to realize that.

>>180220979
Well that's true.

>>180220929
I'm not that guy nor am I going to bother reading the image, just pointing out that over exsaturating things just makes people dismiss you offhand as a retard that doesn't know the subject and is just spouting things he heard.

I don't know what your stance on the "issue" is, I don't care either, just don't expect to say "you can't reaction parry in PvE" and not get called out on it.

>>180220172
>I just feel like compared to the people that've been playing for years, I have no idea (such as just learning what power stancing is 34 hours into my first playthrough)

Man, you're doing fine. If you take it slow, DS2 is a 150-200 hour long game and requires at least 3 playthroughs to get a feel and experiment with different styles and weapons. Enjoy the process of discovering new things, DS2's best attribute is the staggering amount of content and tweaking compared to the other games. Don't compare yourself to people who have sunk 1000 hours into the game, and if you think that people who have only put 100 hours in are more aware of what's going on then you are, then you're being deceived.

>>180220005
There will probably be a couple more balance update patches before they fully give up. I can't believe they wouldn't even think of nerfing Splitleaf at least at some point.

>>180219870
thanks dude, never seen how the scalings work before, gonna have to hold onto this.

>>180221154
it's been true since From lost Agetec in 2005. Since then every game has been 2 steps forward but 1 step back because there's always publisher meddling and a constant influx of new fans that expect AAA titles.

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anybody have the updated weapon and shield tier list? pls respond

>rare meme as payment

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>>180222002

>>180222058
I think Bonewheel Shield needs to go into YOU DIED tier

Have you ever tried it? The thing is bonafide garbage.

>>180220652
thanks, thought it might have something to do with it, but at first thought it would be a negligible effect on stamina regen

>>180221386

Thanks for the words of support, think I'll finish this current playthrough with a few changes (notably putting some more points in VIT for the equip load), then do NG+ with a 2H

Anyways, just wanted to check in as someone who once thought Souls games were for masochistic tryhards, and is now enjoying the experience because it's enjoyably and (somewhat) fairly hard (fair in the sense that I find it mostly my fault for not paying attention or getting cocky rather than the game dicking me over)

>>180222207
It has 100% physical block and the L2 can be a meme when Blood-infused so it's not as awful as a Plank Shield.

>>180222228
Souls isn't that hard. It's not even From's hardest game. It's just that a lot of the game isn't explained and part of the fun is figuring out basic stuff yourself. The reputation comes mostly from players who try to bruteforce it without reading descriptions and stats, so they are constantly dying due to silly things that shouldn't bother a player that pays attention. That, and Bandai Namco's "prepare to die" marketing campaign.

Hard, but fair. That's the From Soft motto. They reward you for actually learning the game instead of just pressing buttons.

WELCOME TO THE BONFIRE MOTHERFUCKER

>>180222686
>mfw first time discovering aldia

>>180222002
>looking at a tier list
>ever
You know that's just made by some random fag, right? Just use what you want.

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>make an edgy slow walking fallen knight, longsword, black knight shield build for fun
>mfw it's actually fun
The longsword moveset is so nice

>>180222757
A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE

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What's the purpose of shields when rollings is undeniably better in ever single circumstance?

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>>180216297
2 in one day? what is it about the astora gs that makes people so salty? i'm literally doing nothing to grief people

>>180223192
Because blocking has a 100% chance of avoiding danger, while it's possible to roll into an attack and get your shit fucked.

>>180223192
blocking rollcatchers because your shield comes up immediately after you roll

blocking some spells where the roll timing is too precise or are coming too fast to roll through.

and also letting everyone know that you're a parry baiter.

Generally though shields are pretty shit in DS3. They were viable in the previous games but now they're just a crutch for pve.

>>180223192
they're great for PvE

also blocking while moving is a great way to work around an enemy and backstab

>>180223375
Did you attack them while they were engaged with a mob?

That makes people really salty

>>180223492
im dueling in the arena

he just responded finally to say that me killing him with a throwing knife is playing dirty lmao

>>180223579
That's the kind of mindset that organized pvp has cultivated into Souls. I bet these are the kind of people who think you should keep to Fextra's "respectful pvp etiquette" in invasions too.

>>180223192
1. blocks two consecutive slashes
2. parries the third one
3. ???
4. profit

>>180222545

Souls pve isn't that hard once you stop treating it as a fighting game and start treating it as a rhythm game.

>>180223879
its weird too because he was using buffs. generally those are the ones deemed "unfair". also he was one of few people dueling right now that actually gave me a fun fight a few times.

anyway i got matched with him again and only threw knives. was good.

>>180224120
>how to beat dancer
>the post

>>180223949
is that even guaranteed?

>>180222058
thanks mate!

Bought Ds3 while it was on sale.

Is cheat engine still essential?

Best meme build?

>>180223579
>Honourfags

Not even once

>>180224628
cheat engine isn't recommended for anything until you've put 500 hours and are bored of the game

>>180224628
CE is good for quickly making invasion characters.

>>180224430
most shitters whose first soulsborne game happens to be das3 fell for shield is useless meme and lowers their defense the moment they find shield on your offhand.

>>180223396
That first one is actually a fairly legitimate point. So many times people get caught by an L2 -> L2 because they think you're gonna be slower than you are.

>>180224120
or treat it as a simulator or rpg where having the right equipment for a boss trivializes them

Can someone on PS4 drop me a parrying dagger?
I fucked up and never met patches

high wall
dsg

PC needs to step up its message game. Your messages are shit compared to PS4. I bet you nerds don't even rate messages.

I'll admit there are significantly less "Tounge but hole" messages on PC though.

So is everything other than duels dead in the arena? I can never get matched into any 2v2s or brawls.

>>180225069
buy bell tower key from shrine handmaiden, grab the firekeeper soul and patch will lock you up.

>it's a another "Twink whips out his Borts hammer after people keep punishing his Dragonslayer Axe attacks" fun police summon
really wish this shit wasn't so prevalent in early pvp

>>180225221
Yes, everyone doing team modes is mostly doing them through passwords which were a huge mistake for the public arenas lifespan.

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I'm on 4, maybe 5 levels of meme right now

>>180225423
How can you say your memes are layered if your image isn't an image of your monitor? That's basic stuff right there dude, come on.

>>180225386
>Invade world
>Two phantoms
>Okay whatever I'll prolly die but fine
>Both phantoms and the host unzip borthammer as soon as they see me across the area

Fucking

>>180225378
thanks... its strange, he didnt show up when i went up and got the soul the first time, but he did now

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I did not see this transition coming.

>>180225731
And then Tsorig came in and killed literally everyone in that frozen wasteland.

>>180223192
It's fun if you're playing a tank build and going 100% equip load instead of 70%. Also, they trivialize several bosses, like Oceiros, Nameless King, Champ and Homoprinces.

Most smart people will shit on you for using a shield, but it's a nice change of pace from Roll Souls, and there is a small amount of challenge in timing attacks so that you can put down your shield for short instances between attacks to regen stamina.

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The Ringed City is an awesome DLC. Dreg Heap is a pile of poop aside from the Demons boss fight but it's tolerable considering the Ringed City itself. And Gael's boss arena is atmospheric as fuck.

>>180225708
He's scripted to troll you only after you miss him at the cathedral of the deep. Confused me af b4 too.

>>180225708
he only shows up there if you miss out on his cathedral appearance.

>>180225731
There's another one coming once you beat the guys coming out of the portals.

I love that you can always, without fail, find a message at the edge of the precipice saying "Destroy, ring."

>>180225941
>>180225953
Both false. He still shows up if you meet him at Cathedral, he just isn't scripted to lock you in until you go up after Deacons or so.

Supposedly that's the reason why the key costs so much, you're not expected to go in there until after you can reasonably accrue enough souls to buy the key without grinding low-level mobs.

is it significant that the flame attack on the dragon shield from the dlc has an almost identical animation to the ghru clerics in demon ruins?

What the hell is the drop rate for the small iron shield enemies in Highwall have?
That shit NEVER drops form the enemies that use them.

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Are DS1 & DS2 ok to play with Keyboard & Mouse or are the controls still terrible?

>>180225390
I thought they fixed it so one team with one password will be on team and face different teams with different passwords

>>180226802
Soulsborne games are always cancer with mouse and keyboard. Get a controller.

>>180226802
DS2 better than DS1, but I'd recommend the mousefix for DS1 if you're gonna do M+KB
I'm of the mind that controller is best for all installments of Dark Souls, though

>>180226614
I can give you want if they don't drop soon

>>180227223
Odds are that it dropped for him shortly after he made that post. That's always how it is when complaining about lack of drops on /dsg/.

How much poise do I need to tank one 2H R1 from a greatsword while holding a greatsword?

Is PS4 more active than PC for invasions? I'm getting some major periods of dead time on PC across most common SL ranges, outride of Ringed City(which I get sick of invading at). Someone told me that PS4 has more overall activity at random places.

>>180227719
I'm pretty sure it depends on which weapon you're using, as well as which weapon they're using
20 poise and 40 poise are typical breakpoints, though

>>180227719
55.35

You can obtain that by wearing full Havel's and a +1 Wolf Ring, but you're talking a shitload of investment in vit.

>>180227223
its okay babycakes, i don't need it that badly

Does anyone know if lothric war banner WA affects elemental damage or only physical? Also, looking for recommendations to play with, I need weapons that work well one-handed, preferably ones that cant be buffed otherwise

>>180229059
It's a self-buff that increases the damage that you deal. It stacks with any buffs your weapons have, spell boosting rings, Morion + RTSR hypermode, etc.

>>180229059
it affects total AR (like blessed weapon) so it will affect all weapon AR. It doesn't work on spells though, since they don't scale off AR but instead spellbuff.

>>180228434
Not the same guy, but I was also looking into it and the numbers seem all over the place.

This guide says 39.89

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhr_pgseDdQ

...and then this mentions a nerf, which would bring that down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pl_wJkHAnQ

Shit is all over the place.

>>180229290
Wrong, LWB is technically a weapon buff, not a self buff. It affects weapon AR, not damage.

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Is the paired UGS is still worthless or they fixed it? is Gael GS WA is still poise nerfed?

>get summoned
>host repeatedly blocks while two handing a weapon at me
>black crystal out
Stop being fags.

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>>180193920
>Lost Connection to Network, Returning to Title Screen

Thanks From, you worthless cock suckers.

Nothing like not being able to play online ever again.

>have 27 vigor and 38 vitality
>wearing strongest possible armor for physical defense while staying under 100 percent equip load
>midir's tail with no warning still takes off 2/3 of my health
Why is this allowed?

>>180230814
>>have 27 vigor
Why is this allowed?

>>180230814
>1200 HP

????

>>180230647
Bamco runs the servers, not From. It's their fault.

>>180230814
Because boss damage doesn't conform to your stats and available equipment, your stats and equipment should conform to the boss.

Just use lloyd's shield ring and then estus each time you get hit, so that you aren't wasting 2 estus healing back to full each time.

>>180229059
holy shit.
Black Knight greataxe, Black Knight greatsword, and refined greataxe at 40/40
with the 15% damage bonus, you get over 700 PURE PHYSICAL AR
Only downside is that you dont get 2handed movesets or WA, but its not like those WA's were to die for

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I know you're in here.

>>180230814
>have no HP investment
>get hit by end game boss
>almost die

oh gee, I wonder why that happened

>>180231165
>>180231065
>>180230938
I beat midir at 27 vigor just fine.

I mean, having 50 vigor is only 30% more health. That's not going to let you survive an extra hit from Midir, you have to estus after each hit no matter what.

27 vig and embered is fine. Just don't get hit more than 12 times during the fight, so that you can always heal.

>>180231069
Fine, fuck Capcom then.

New to owning a PS4, if I wanna shitpost with screenshots here, do I HAVE to upload them to twitter or facebook first? Cuz that shit is retarded.

Is there any way to change how your inventory is sorted? Not making it alphabetical is retarded.

>>180231562
No, a USB will work even better. It's much easier.

>>180231087
>that fashion
A+

>>180231451
>capcom
a-anon...

Bamco is Bandai Namco

>>180231620
L3

>>180231885
>none of the options are alphabetical
reeeee how hard could it possibly have been

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>>180231682
It's still inconvenient for me, but more convenient than the alternatives, thanks.

Anywho, does the gattling gun guy on top of that building drop anything good, cuz he fucking played himself and fell off and landed here.

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>>180231087
>consecutive invasions cost me 55k souls
Goodnight /dsg/. I'll like this game again tomorrow.

>>180231741
Not a particularly accurate cosplay, but it looked nice.

>>180232150
Reload the area and it should be where he usually sits. It's the Powder Keg Badge, which nets you a few new items

>>180232253
Cool beans, thanks.

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trying to make a level 80-ish havel, will this work or will I get my ass kicked

>>180232292
Since you offed him, you can also get his attire set from the Insight Messengers. It's average, but has some of the best Frenzy resistance in the game, and is rather stylish.

>>180232091
>you could do this back in the PS2 armored core games when From was making indie games
>massive AAA budget From can't do this in 2017

this shit bothers me so much when I see basic UI and customization mechanics from their previous games randomly disappear when playing their newer games

>>180231385
If you sip after every small bit of damage you take, you're going to waste a bunch of Estus since a fraction of it gets wasted each time you heal to full. More Vigor means you can allow your health to go farther below 600 from full before you have to chug. Which increases efficiency.

Also, Midir's physical attacks do Dark chip damage, same as Gael's. Your physical defenses aren't going to completely protect you against that.

>>180232384
this is actually pretty optimized, anon
though fatrolls are terrible in ds3

>>180232590
yeah I'm hoping I can rely on havel's shield's great block stats

>>180232384
You have literally no Vigor, and no Endurance. You're gonna get fucked hard.

>>180232647
>literally no vigor
>has 30 points of it
What did he mean by this?

>>180232384
You can't roll in a game that is based almost entirely around being able to avoid being caught in said rolls. If you are willing to accept that challenge and can have [spoiler[fun[/spoiler] with it, then go ahead. Going to be put into a blender when there's multiple phantoms involved for sure though.

>>180232647
It's a level 80 build should I have more?

>>180232384
That's actually pretty decent considering the SL range and all the heavy shit you're wearing.